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| mnaser | please forigve me but | 00:26 |
| mnaser | where are 'flavors' stored that are tied to the instance | 00:27 |
| mnaser | bad idea™ but customer who did not have qos quotas needs to have them applied on existing instance | 00:27 |
| mnaser | and well, changing the flavor isnt tenough | 00:27 |
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| efried | mnaser: It's possible you need to do a "resize" to make that happen. | 00:29 |
| mnaser | efried: resize to same flavor, wonder if i can do that, that might be a clean way of doing it | 00:29 |
| efried | mnaser: You said "changing the flavor" - you mean you edited the existing flavor? | 00:30 |
| mnaser | yes | 00:30 |
| efried | That's probably a bad idea™ :) | 00:30 |
| mnaser | even worse i was thinking of using the nova code base to write a python script that modifies the objects | 00:31 |
| mnaser | so it goes through the actual codeflow to make the change in the db layer | 00:31 |
| efried | mnaser: So, assuming resize-to-same-flavor isn't a thing nova will let you do (it may be, but I wouldn't be surprised if it bounced) you could probably just create a new flavor identical to the old (edited) one. | 00:31 |
| efried | mnaser: Oh, that's *definitely* a rathole you don't want to go down. | 00:31 |
| mnaser | haha, i thought it would have been slightly cleaner | 00:32 |
| mnaser | inspired by nova-manage | 00:32 |
| efried | Not knowing the details, I would expect that there's more to it than just db data | 00:32 |
| mnaser | there is instance_extra. | 00:32 |
| mnaser | its out there somewhere, i just cant find it in the db lol | 00:32 |
| mnaser | omg, it's an actual table. | 00:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (22) https://review.openstack.org/576712 | 00:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Fix unit test modifying global state https://review.openstack.org/578387 | 00:50 |
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| gmann | melwitt: hi | 01:49 |
| gmann | melwitt: regarding the approval of this BP - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/api-extensions-merge-rocky | 01:49 |
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| gmann | melwitt: what you think on this about considering it for Rocky. there are reviews started on code for this. | 01:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: [placement] demonstrate part of bug 1778591 with a gabbi test https://review.openstack.org/578139 | 02:33 |
| openstack | bug 1778591 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "GET /allocations/{uuid} on a consumer with no allocations provides no generation" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1778591 | 02:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | xulei proposed openstack/nova master: Disable limits if force_hosts or force_nodes is set https://review.openstack.org/576693 | 02:57 |
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| alex_xu | gmann: this is very strange https://review.openstack.org/#/c/577152/1/nova/api/openstack/compute/schemas/block_device_mapping.py@63 | 03:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Add InstanceGroupPolicy object https://review.openstack.org/573628 | 03:30 |
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| oomichi | takashin: hi, can you take a look at a comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572018 | 03:48 |
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| oomichi | takashin: one more: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462355 | 03:50 |
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| gmann | alex_xu: yeah, those are being ignored in code later but not sure why we did allow them in schema - https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/0ab78890c155f0b6ffc7c4148b26642f47aa7070/nova/block_device.py#L166-L201 | 03:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Add InstanceGroupPolicy object https://review.openstack.org/573628 | 03:55 |
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| takashin | oomichi: okay | 03:57 |
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| takashin | oomichi: About https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462355/, | 04:10 |
| takashin | oomichi: The 'disk_available_least_total' and 'free_ram_mb_total', etc. are newly added. | 04:11 |
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| takashin | oomichi: So the description should be correct (Gib, MiB) from the beginning. In other existing description will be fixed in another patch. | 04:11 |
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| osa_ | @openstack: Hi i'm seeing a bunch of errors in the neutron-plugin-openvswitch-agent on the compute nodes with the following error: WARNING neutron.plugins.openvswitch.agent.ovs_neutron_agent [req-94bf4b91-95cd-40c9-8f41-1c2b8b8aa200 None] Device 1bb2c25d-a4f0-47df-b851-004ffd97f5b6 not defined on plugin | 04:13 |
| osa_ | Has anyone seen this error before, or know how to get rid of it? | 04:13 |
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| oomichi | takashin: that leads inconsistency if partialy applying as your point .. | 04:44 |
| takashin | oomichi: It should be fixed in the patch? | 04:46 |
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| oomichi | takashin: ah, I feel it is fine to fix your point in another patch because of the scope | 04:47 |
| oomichi | step by ste | 04:48 |
| oomichi | p | 04:48 |
| takashin | oomichi: okay. Fair enough. I agree with you. | 04:49 |
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| oomichi | thanks | 04:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova master: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/578019 | 07:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Merge server create for user data extension https://review.openstack.org/578709 | 07:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Merge server create for security group extension https://review.openstack.org/578714 | 07:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Lei Zhang proposed openstack/nova master: Add method to get cpu traits https://review.openstack.org/560317 | 07:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lei Zhang proposed openstack/nova master: Add method to get cpu traits https://review.openstack.org/560317 | 07:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhangyangyang proposed openstack/nova master: Add the neutron doc link https://review.openstack.org/576682 | 08:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add request_spec.RequestGroup versioned object https://review.openstack.org/568840 | 08:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add requested_resources field to RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/567267 | 08:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add bandwidth related standard resource classes https://review.openstack.org/570847 | 08:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Transfer port.resource_request to the scheduler https://review.openstack.org/567268 | 08:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Send resource allocations in the port binding https://review.openstack.org/569459 | 08:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Test boot with more ports with bandwidth request https://review.openstack.org/573317 | 08:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add requested_resources field to RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/567267 | 09:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Test boot with more ports with bandwidth request https://review.openstack.org/573317 | 09:03 |
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| quiquell|rover | Hello, looks like we no longer have the 'certs' attribute at nova client ? | 09:18 |
| quiquell|rover | https://docs.openstack.org/python-novaclient/pike/reference/api/v2/certs.html | 09:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Dinesh Bhor proposed openstack/nova master: PCPU: Define numa dedicated CPU resource class https://review.openstack.org/561770 | 09:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Dinesh Bhor proposed openstack/nova master: NUMACell, InstanceNUMACell: Adopt 'PCPU' changes https://review.openstack.org/576021 | 09:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Dinesh Bhor proposed openstack/nova master: Report PCPU to placement https://review.openstack.org/577038 | 09:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Dinesh Bhor proposed openstack/nova master: Virt driver: Build guest xml https://review.openstack.org/577372 | 09:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: add mtu to libvirt xml for ethernet and bridge types https://review.openstack.org/578010 | 09:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gaudenz Steinlin proposed openstack/nova master: Ignore some updates from virt driver https://review.openstack.org/523006 | 10:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/queens: Make nova list and migration-list ignore down cells https://review.openstack.org/578152 | 10:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jan Gutter proposed openstack/nova master: Convert vrouter legacy plugging to os-vif https://review.openstack.org/571325 | 11:31 |
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| ShilpaSD | lyarwood: Hi | 11:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Add missing encryption_secret_uuid tests for pre_live_migration https://review.openstack.org/540679 | 11:55 |
| lyarwood | ShilpaSD: hey | 11:55 |
| ShilpaSD | lyarwood: i was going through your comment on >> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/550172/4/lib/nova | 11:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Use nova.test.TestingException https://review.openstack.org/575012 | 11:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: Example verification for servers.inc https://review.openstack.org/529520 | 11:58 |
| ShilpaSD | lyarwood:vnc v1.0.0 has renamed vnc_auto.html to 'vnc_lite.html' | 11:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in sec group test and functional tests https://review.openstack.org/576751 | 11:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Update admin/flavors document https://review.openstack.org/573063 | 11:59 |
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| ShilpaSD | lyarwood: so this change is require to | 12:00 |
| ShilpaSD | Bump noVNC to 1.0.0 | 12:00 |
| lyarwood | ShilpaSD: which change? | 12:01 |
| lyarwood | ShilpaSD: oh the conditional, yeah we just need to point to vnc_lite.html when building from source | 12:01 |
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| lyarwood | ShilpaSD: packages should hopefully provide a symlink between the two, at least that's my plan for Fedora | 12:02 |
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| ShilpaSD | lyarwood: please elaborate 'packages should hopefully provide a symlink between the two', guide me to understand this | 12:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Make nova-lvm run in check on libvirt changes and compute API tests https://review.openstack.org/569149 | 12:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Mention server status in api-ref when rebuild https://review.openstack.org/576438 | 12:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: Add regression test for bug #1764883 https://review.openstack.org/562072 | 12:29 |
| openstack | bug 1764883 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Evacuation fails if the source host returns while the migration is still in progress" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1764883 - Assigned to Lee Yarwood (lyarwood) | 12:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: compute: Ensure pre-migrating instances are destroyed during init_host https://review.openstack.org/562284 | 12:29 |
| lyarwood | argh whitespace | 12:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: Add regression test for bug #1764883 https://review.openstack.org/562072 | 12:34 |
| openstack | bug 1764883 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Evacuation fails if the source host returns while the migration is still in progress" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1764883 - Assigned to Lee Yarwood (lyarwood) | 12:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: compute: Ensure pre-migrating instances are destroyed during init_host https://review.openstack.org/562284 | 12:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | wu.chunyang proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Add release note link in README https://review.openstack.org/578664 | 12:37 |
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| andrewbogott | This isn't exactly a dev question, but it's one that only a nova-developer can answer: what records in the nova database constitute the complete state of a VM? I need to copy VMs between regions and I expected that a simple copy of the 'instance' record would do the job, but that's getting me exceptions about my new VM being an orphan. Are there other records in other tables I need to be copying? | 12:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Add rules column to instance_group_policy table. https://review.openstack.org/560832 | 12:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Add InstanceGroupPolicy object https://review.openstack.org/573628 | 12:54 |
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| efried | andrewbogott: I'm not an expert in this space, but attempting to copy an instance by copying just the database info is not likely to work, even if you were able to identify all the various tendrils in all the various tables. | 13:16 |
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| andrewbogott | efried: 'not likely to work' is my prediction as well, but I'm a bit desperate :) | 13:17 |
| efried | andrewbogott: The data isn't the instance - it's just stuff nova uses to keep track of the real thing, which is an artifact of the hypervisor. | 13:17 |
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| andrewbogott | efried: oh yeah, I'm also copying the VM files as well. I just need to tell nova 'congrats, you have a new VM, here it is' | 13:18 |
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| andrewbogott | which I don't think there's an API call for | 13:18 |
| efried | andrewbogott: Have you tried snapshot? | 13:18 |
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| efried | Depending how deeply you want to "copy" the VM... | 13:18 |
| andrewbogott | there are a few problems with snapshot — one issue is that as far as I can tell that will lose any copy-on-write compactness that my existing VMs have | 13:19 |
| efried | andrewbogott: Can I assume you're using libvirt? | 13:19 |
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| andrewbogott | but, the big picture here is that I'm doing a nova-network -> neutron migration. If I can insert one VM into my new region, then I can swap an entire hypervisor from the nova-network region to the neutron region just by copying database records. That's my ultimate goal. | 13:20 |
| andrewbogott | yep, libvirt, kvm | 13:20 |
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| efried | andrewbogott: I wonder if the CERN folks might be able to help you here. I want to say they are in the process of transitioning from nova-network, so they may have trodden this ground already. tssurya, you around? | 13:22 |
| tssurya | efried: yes | 13:23 |
| tssurya | reading the convo | 13:23 |
| * andrewbogott fears that no two nova-network migrations are alike | 13:23 | |
| efried | tssurya: thanks | 13:23 |
| andrewbogott | thanks efried | 13:23 |
| efried | andrewbogott: I suspect the CoW thing is going to be a separate headache, though. How did you plan to clone the disk across? | 13:23 |
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| andrewbogott | just rsync | 13:24 |
| andrewbogott | (plus rsyincing the base image so the backing files are there) | 13:24 |
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| efried | andrewbogott: BTW, the obvious answer is to live migrate your instances; I assume the "different region" thing is what's stopping you there? | 13:25 |
| andrewbogott | Cloning the files is a solved problem on my end — I already do that to cold migrate instances between hypervisors (within a single region), have a working script for that | 13:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Usages per project and user (v1.8, v1.9) https://review.openstack.org/514646 | 13:25 |
| andrewbogott | right, different regions | 13:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/osc-placement master: CLI allocation candidates (v1.10) https://review.openstack.org/514647 | 13:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/osc-placement master: New dict format of allocations (v1.11, v1.12) https://review.openstack.org/542819 | 13:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Transactionally update allocations (v1.13) https://review.openstack.org/546674 | 13:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Add nested resource providers (v1.14) https://review.openstack.org/546675 | 13:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Limit allocation candidates (v1.15, v1.16) https://review.openstack.org/548043 | 13:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Allocation candidates parameter: required (v1.17) https://review.openstack.org/548326 | 13:25 |
| andrewbogott | and I don't have live migration, since, no shared storage | 13:25 |
| efried | andrewbogott: It sounds like a) you don't mind a bit of downtime, and b) you're not opposed to doing the storage migration manually. | 13:26 |
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| efried | andrewbogott: So can't you just create a new instance at the target, using the same flavor as the original, and then replace its disk? | 13:27 |
| andrewbogott | yeah — downtime was unavoidable, and doing a cross-region migration of VMs seemed safer than trying to do a big 'upgrade our whole cloud to neutron in one go' in place upgrade because there was no guarantee of what we'd end up with. | 13:27 |
| andrewbogott | efried: that has certainly crossed my mind :) | 13:28 |
| tssurya | efried: not in my scope, belmoreira is the guy who did this at CERN :) | 13:28 |
| tssurya | sorry | 13:28 |
| efried | tssurya: Okay, thank you for looking. | 13:28 |
| efried | andrewbogott: I'm a bit rusty on this - do you remember whether you need to specify a flavor when you spawn an instance from a snapshot? | 13:29 |
| andrewbogott | efried: this is a bit hard to explain… my current test case involves copying a VM. but my future game plan won't actually involve copying any files. Rather, I'll shut down a single hypervisor, change that hypervisor's region, insert all the VMs from that hypervisor into the new region's DB, and then bring up the hypervisor. | 13:30 |
| andrewbogott | The create-new-VM and then clobber with old-vm will work for the one-off case but it's less obvious how to adapt that to the 'whole hypervisor at once' case | 13:30 |
| andrewbogott | whereas the transition from the one-VM to batch-VM is obvious in the 'create from scratch' approach | 13:31 |
| andrewbogott | (hope I'm making sense here) | 13:31 |
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| efried | andrewbogott: You mean the physical host is going to be the same before & after, just brought up in a different region? | 13:32 |
| andrewbogott | right, that's the idea | 13:32 |
| andrewbogott | hence, wanting a way to duplicate nova's knowledge of a VM from one region to another | 13:33 |
| andrewbogott | (and then I'll have to plumb them up with Neutron) | 13:34 |
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| efried | andrewbogott: Then it sounds like what you actually want to do is bring down the service and simply change the region associated with the existing instances in the database... | 13:34 |
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| efried | as opposed to actually moving data. | 13:34 |
| andrewbogott | 'region' = separate nova deploy with a separate DB | 13:35 |
| efried | I'm not familiar with the structure of the database - is the region represented as a field, or are regions whole groups of tables? | 13:35 |
| efried | okay, that answers that. | 13:35 |
| efried | So I gotta ask... why are you needing to change regions? | 13:35 |
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| andrewbogott | (Except for the API which has its own multi-region db) | 13:35 |
| andrewbogott | the old region uses nova-network, the new one neutron | 13:35 |
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| andrewbogott | the two can't coexist in a single region as far as I can tell | 13:36 |
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| efried | Maybe I still don't get it. Instead of migrating your existing region from nova-network to neutron, you want to create a new region using neutron and then move your instances from the old to the new. | 13:38 |
| andrewbogott | correct | 13:38 |
| andrewbogott | And the reason to not 'migrate existing region' is wanting a safe, understandable transition. | 13:39 |
| andrewbogott | Migrating an existing region means basically 1) shut down a working cloud 2) do a bunch of stuff 3) <unknown time elapses> 4) <hope that the new neutronified deploy ever works again> | 13:39 |
| andrewbogott | Whereas we prefer to move our VMs to a cloud that we already know works :) | 13:40 |
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| mnaser | "To expand your deployment with a new cell, first follow the usual steps for standing up a new Cells V1 cell. After that is finished, follow step 4 in Upgrade with Cells V1 to create a new Cells V2 cell for it." | 13:42 |
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| mnaser | is this a doc type or :( | 13:42 |
| mnaser | typo* | 13:42 |
| andrewbogott | efried: If there existed an actual supported/documented upgrade path to Neutron then I wouldn't be engaged in such obscure and desperate measures — but that ship has sailed :( | 13:42 |
| efried | andrewbogott: Okay, except that steps 2-4 represent a documented process that at least somebody has actually tried and (presumably) completed successfully. Whereas what you're talking about... | 13:42 |
| mnaser | there's not even any more docs on how to 'stand up a cells v1 cell'.. and im sure hoping that i dont have to end up doing that :X | 13:43 |
| efried | ahjeez, there's no documented process? | 13:43 |
| andrewbogott | efried: there are 100 different documented processes, each bespoke for a single cloud | 13:43 |
| efried | oy vay. | 13:43 |
| andrewbogott | I've been waiting since 2013 for the promised upgrade tool to arrive but can wait no longer | 13:43 |
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| mnaser | nova-network to neutron? | 13:44 |
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| andrewbogott | yeah, with flat dhcp and floating IPs | 13:44 |
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| mnaser | that's a rough one. we did it a really long time ago but it involved having 2 clouds running at the same time, one with old setup and one with neutron | 13:45 |
| mnaser | and a lot of very bad ideas™ | 13:45 |
| mnaser | i dunno, i dont think we're at a point that someone is going to write a tool for this migration | 13:45 |
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| efried | Save me, mnaser! I've been like a physics professor trying to explain a real spaceship here (i.e. my scope of knowledge is barely overlapping and purely theoretical). | 13:45 |
| andrewbogott | ahah! 'two clouds running at the same time' <- exactly what I'm doing | 13:45 |
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| andrewbogott | mnaser: how did you move your VMs between the clouds? | 13:46 |
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| mnaser | efried: aha | 13:46 |
| mnaser | andrewbogott: well, it involved downtime, the idea was: | 13:46 |
| mnaser | 1) create matching neutron network in new region | 13:47 |
| mnaser | 2) create port with matching fixed ip, mac address, etc | 13:47 |
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| mnaser | 3) boot vm attached to that port under the same tenant or so | 13:47 |
| mnaser | 4) shutdown vm, copy vm image from old region to new one | 13:47 |
| mnaser | 5) start up vm again | 13:47 |
| mnaser | 6) ??? | 13:47 |
| mnaser | 7) profit | 13:48 |
| andrewbogott | ok, so step 3 and 4 is basically that you create a new VM and then clobber it with the files from the old VM? | 13:48 |
| andrewbogott | mnaser: it's nice to hear you having used a similar approach to the one we're converging on | 13:49 |
| jangutter | andrewbogott: in summary, you'd like to "abandon" a VM, and "adopt" it without disturbing the hypervisor or networking? | 13:49 |
| mnaser | essentially yes | 13:49 |
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| andrewbogott | jangutter: that's pretty much right. | 13:49 |
| mnaser | that could be a possibility too actually, which avoids the move | 13:49 |
| mnaser | the only thing is you have to stop access to your APIs | 13:49 |
| mnaser | and do this per hypervisor | 13:49 |
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| mnaser | but that was too wild for us | 13:50 |
| andrewbogott | Which I continue to believe/hope is just a matter of duplicating database rows between the oldnova DB and the new one... | 13:50 |
| andrewbogott | Oh yeah, this is going to involve epic downtime | 13:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Handle CannotDeleteParentResourceProvider to 409 Conflict https://review.openstack.org/578804 | 13:50 |
| * yikun mriedem: hi, I think I didn't understand completely, in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/563375/17/nova/objects/instance_group.py@41 | 13:50 | |
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| yikun | mriedem: and we need keep _policies and policy in API model? and joinload _policies and policy? | 13:53 |
| yikun | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/563375/17/nova/objects/instance_group.py@41 | 13:53 |
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| melwitt | nova meeting in 6 minutes | 13:54 |
| mriedem | yikun: honestly i'm not fully following dansmith's comments there either, but unfortunately he's on vacation for the rest of this week. | 13:55 |
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| andrewbogott | mnaser, jangutter, my original question was: which tables in the nova db (besides 'instances') express the full state of a VM? | 13:55 |
| mnaser | a lot | 13:55 |
| andrewbogott | which, probably I just need to keep digging in the code/schema for the answer to this | 13:55 |
| yikun | - -! | 13:55 |
| mnaser | i think thats hard to like nail down | 13:55 |
| mnaser | in a message :p | 13:55 |
| andrewbogott | ok, fair enough :) | 13:56 |
| mnaser | yes, you'll have to do research, my suggestion: dump your database | 13:56 |
| mnaser | grep for a really old running instance and see what it's touching | 13:56 |
| mriedem | yikun: oh i think i get it, | 13:56 |
| yikun | em? | 13:56 |
| mriedem | he's saying if we check db_policy._policies anywhere, we'll lazy-load it from sqlalchemy, in addition to the new db_policy.policy join you've added | 13:56 |
| andrewbogott | mnaser: you'd expect that to be keyed using the uuid? Or the 'id' from the instances table? | 13:57 |
| mnaser | both | 13:57 |
| mnaser | :) | 13:57 |
| mnaser | nova is complex and in my experience you really dont want to muck around the db manually | 13:57 |
| jangutter | andrewbogott: the scary part of this is not accidentally re-inventing all the instance creation code... | 13:57 |
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| melwitt | gmann: I put it on the agenda for the nova meeting today | 13:58 |
| mnaser | it might work today but break down in terrible ways in your next upgrade | 13:58 |
| * andrewbogott nods | 13:58 | |
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| andrewbogott | ok, I'll see if I can do use the instance creation code instead, then. | 13:58 |
| mnaser | melwitt: i know this is pretty last minute but if we have time to discuss https://review.openstack.org/#/c/577933/ that'd be nice | 13:58 |
| andrewbogott | thank you for your thoughts, all | 13:58 |
| mnaser | though i am not attached or that is not a priority | 13:58 |
| yikun | mriedem: "if we check db_policy._policies anywhere", why we check this? | 13:58 |
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| * andrewbogott gets out of the way of the upcoming meeting | 13:59 | |
| mriedem | yikun: replied | 13:59 |
| mriedem | yikun: yeah i don't get it, | 13:59 |
| melwitt | mnaser: you mean during open discussion in the nova meeting? that's fine, I'm sure we'll have time | 13:59 |
| mriedem | yikun: i'd say leave that part as you have it now, address the other comments and then we can come back to it when dan is back | 13:59 |
| mnaser | melwitt: ok cools | 13:59 |
| mriedem | yikun: i can maybe get jaypipes to take a look later too | 14:00 |
| mriedem | he knows sqla db objects and versioned object mysteries | 14:00 |
| Guest88823 | mriedem: nothing to do with ovo, just sqla | 14:00 |
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| mriedem | TheLurker | 14:01 |
| yikun | hah | 14:01 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yikun: You always need to check the old field until we're fully migrated yeah? | 14:01 |
| mriedem | but it doesn't exist in the model https://review.openstack.org/#/c/563375/17/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api_models.py | 14:01 |
| mriedem | _policies was changed to policy in the model | 14:01 |
| mriedem | for the backref | 14:01 |
| mriedem | crap meeting time | 14:02 |
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| dansmith | ohh | 14:02 |
| dansmith | I never got that far | 14:02 |
| dansmith | why is that changing? | 14:02 |
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| mriedem | i asked that as well, | 14:02 |
| mriedem | i assume it's for model sanity since we don't have many policies per group, we have one | 14:03 |
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| mriedem | it's not a column, just a backref attribute | 14:03 |
| dansmith | I thought we were adding a new backref | 14:03 |
| dansmith | not a column obviously, but a new backreg | 14:03 |
| dansmith | alright, well, nevermind me then | 14:03 |
| mriedem | heh ok :) | 14:03 |
| mriedem | well that was easy | 14:03 |
| mriedem | yikun: so leave it like you have it for that joinedload | 14:04 |
| dansmith | can we break the backref change out to something separate? | 14:04 |
| dansmith | because that would be less confusing | 14:04 |
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| dansmith | 1. refactor the name, 2. make the changes to actually support the new object field | 14:05 |
| mriedem | yeah that would be nice | 14:05 |
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| mriedem | left a comment | 14:05 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: whatup? | 14:06 |
| mriedem | yikun: ^ let me know if that all makes sense | 14:06 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: nvm | 14:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Merge server create for security group extension https://review.openstack.org/578714 | 14:07 |
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| yikun | yeah, got it, :), put refactor _policies stuff in a separate patch~ | 14:09 |
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| yikun | mriedem, dansmith ^ | 14:10 |
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| efried | gmann: Having the word "merge" in your commit title, that's great psychology. | 14:11 |
| efried | Like, we had a guy running for mayor in Austin whose name was Will Wynn. | 14:11 |
| mriedem | but he lost right? | 14:11 |
| efried | Heh. I actually don't think so. I don't keep up on politics much though. | 14:12 |
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| mriedem | i'll be damned, mayor from 2003 to 2009 | 14:12 |
| efried | mriedem: No, apparently he served as mayor from 2003 to 2009. | 14:12 |
| efried | jynx | 14:12 |
| mriedem | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Wynn#/media/File:Will_Wynn_2005.jpg | 14:12 |
| mriedem | real hair? | 14:12 |
| yikun | mriedem: yeah, maybe go to the vocation. : ) | 14:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Merge server create for user data extension https://review.openstack.org/578709 | 14:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Merge server create for security group extension https://review.openstack.org/578714 | 14:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Remove compatibility code for instance groups https://review.openstack.org/578192 | 14:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Fix the duplicated config options of api_database and placement_database https://review.openstack.org/577023 | 14:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | xulei proposed openstack/nova master: Disable limits if force_hosts or force_nodes is set https://review.openstack.org/576693 | 14:19 |
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| mriedem | can i get a stable review on this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/563700/ | 14:26 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: ^? | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: oh that is a tasty one, will take a look | 14:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova master: Remove irrelevant comment https://review.openstack.org/578821 | 14:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova master: Move static _get_power_off_values to compute_utils https://review.openstack.org/578822 | 14:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: trivial: Remove 'tools/releasenotes_tox.sh' https://review.openstack.org/534383 | 14:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: tox: Reuse envdirs https://review.openstack.org/534382 | 14:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: tox: Document and dedupe mostly everything https://review.openstack.org/578825 | 14:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Convert 'placement_api_docs' into a Sphinx extension https://review.openstack.org/578826 | 14:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Convert 'placement_api_docs' into a Sphinx extension https://review.openstack.org/578826 | 14:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-novaclient master: Add release note link in README https://review.openstack.org/578664 | 14:51 |
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| efried | stephenfin: You split https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534382/ into https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534382/9 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578825/1 right? | 14:57 |
| mnaser | i asked this a bit earlier but | 14:57 |
| mnaser | https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/cells.html#adding-a-new-cell-to-an-existing-deployment | 14:57 |
| stephenfin | efried: Yes. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534382/ is the one I really want but I need to sent a note to the mailing lsit first | 14:57 |
| mnaser | "To expand your deployment with a new cell, first follow the usual steps for standing up a new Cells V1 cell." | 14:57 |
| stephenfin | *list | 14:58 |
| efried | stephenfin: but you moved the larger part of the change to the new change-id, making it harder to diff. | 14:58 |
| * efried shakes tiny fist | 14:58 | |
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| stephenfin | efried: Sec. I can fix that, if you'd like? | 14:58 |
| mnaser | is that a typo or do we really have to setup cells v1 and upgrade to cells v2... | 14:58 |
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| efried | stephenfin: Meh, it'll probably do me good to re-review from scratch anyway. | 14:58 |
| mnaser | i'll be very happy to fix the docs if that's incorrect | 14:58 |
| efried | was just giving you grief | 14:58 |
| mriedem | mnaser: i think that's a typo | 14:59 |
| mriedem | or out of context | 14:59 |
| melwitt | mnaser: uh no, what I meant there was create a new db, mq, etc whatever you would have normally done to set up a new cell | 14:59 |
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| mnaser | okay, i'll be working on adding a new cells v2 over the next few days so there might be a bunch of doc patches that hopefully help | 14:59 |
| melwitt | so it should be reworded if that's how it sounds to other people | 14:59 |
| melwitt | (if it sounds like it's saying set up cells v1) | 14:59 |
| melwitt | thanks mnaser | 15:00 |
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| mnaser | and hopefully adding cells v2 native support in openstack ansible (not just 1 cell) | 15:00 |
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| mriedem | yeah i'd just generalize https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/cells.html#adding-a-new-cell-to-an-existing-deployment into saying, create new db and mq, sync db, create cell with new db and mq, discover hosts, etc | 15:01 |
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| mriedem | don't need to run map_instances if it's a new deploy | 15:01 |
| melwitt | right | 15:01 |
| mriedem | if you're adding existing child cells to cells v2 mappings, then you skip the "create db and mq" part, and just create cell mapping with existing db and mq for child cell, discover hosts and map_instances | 15:02 |
| mriedem | although step 4 in "Upgrade with Cells V1" already says that basically | 15:03 |
| mriedem | "You will need to repeat this step for each cell in your deployment" | 15:03 |
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| mriedem | efried: doesn't the in-tree powervm driver support config drive now too? https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/config-drive.html#requirements-and-guidelines | 15:04 |
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| mriedem | "The following hypervisors support the configuration drive: libvirt, XenServer, Hyper-V, and VMware. Also, the Bare Metal service supports the configuration drive. " | 15:04 |
| efried | mriedem: yes. Will propose an update to that, unless you're already in there for some reason. | 15:05 |
| mriedem | go for it | 15:05 |
| mriedem | note the release the support was added for powervm | 15:05 |
| mriedem | looks like queens https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409404/ | 15:06 |
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| efried | agree | 15:07 |
| mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1779159 | 15:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1779159 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Store metadata on a configuration drive in nova - missing powervm" [Low,Triaged] | 15:07 |
| mriedem | hmm, when was xenapi_disable_agent removed? | 15:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Add policy to InstanceGroup object and api models. https://review.openstack.org/563375 | 15:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Mention PowerVM support of config drive https://review.openstack.org/578840 | 15:10 |
| efried | mriedem, edmondsw: ^ | 15:10 |
| efried | edmondsw: not sure if there's more stuff we should mention in other places in there. | 15:10 |
| mriedem | +2 | 15:10 |
| mriedem | thanks | 15:10 |
| yikun | mriedem: I upload the recent patch and address comments from you and dans, but still WIP (lack testcase), if you have time can take a look, I will add test case tomorrow. | 15:11 |
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| mriedem | yikun: ok | 15:11 |
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| mriedem | yikun: were you going to split out the _policies backref modles change? | 15:11 |
| mriedem | *models | 15:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: conf: Correct documentation for '[pci] passthrough_whitelist' https://review.openstack.org/552874 | 15:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Revert "docs: Disable smartquotes" https://review.openstack.org/578841 | 15:11 |
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| yikun | yes, but I noticed that not a easy thing. - - | 15:12 |
| yikun | because we use old _policies in some other method. | 15:13 |
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| yikun | and I'm going to complete it in tomorrow, : ) | 15:15 |
| yikun | now time for me to back home, hah, 11:15 PM, :( | 15:15 |
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| yikun | have a good day! :) and have a good night for me. :D | 15:16 |
| mriedem | yikun: np, ttyl | 15:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova master: Don't delete disks on shared storage during evacuate https://review.openstack.org/578846 | 15:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Update xenapi_disable_agent config option usage in docs https://review.openstack.org/578848 | 15:24 |
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| efried | stephenfin: have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534382/ if you please. If I'm full of malarkey, let me know and I'll flip to +2. | 15:25 |
| stephenfin | efried: Looks good. Lemme try it | 15:26 |
| efried | k | 15:26 |
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| edmondsw | efried looking | 15:32 |
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| stephenfin | efried: Yeah, Can't | 15:35 |
| efried | stephenfin: Boo, how come? | 15:35 |
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| stephenfin | *Yeah, can't do that as that only works for explicitly defined things | 15:35 |
| stephenfin | Not implicitly defined | 15:35 |
| stephenfin | So I could manually set envdir for the environments I'm inheriting from but then what's the point | 15:35 |
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| efried | I see. I mean, it would still have the same dedup-ish effect. You'd only be defining it for what, three, four envs? | 15:36 |
| efried | and then sharing it for the rest. | 15:36 |
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| stephenfin | So defining '[testenv] envdir' and overriding where I need it? | 15:37 |
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| efried | stephenfin: Oh, I thought like defining envdir in [testenv:{venv|doc|py27|py35}], not overriding it anywhere, and then using the suggested syntax wherever you want to share it. | 15:38 |
| efried | (which is overriding, I suppose - not sure if we're talking the same terms here) | 15:39 |
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| stephenfin | Is there any difference, in that case? Those unclear attributes are still going to be there, there'll just be less of them | 15:40 |
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| stephenfin | Unclear attributes being e.g. 'envdir = {toxworkdir}/venv' | 15:40 |
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| efried | stephenfin: Well, except {toxworkdir}/venv will be defined in the [testenv:venv] env, which seems pretty clear. | 15:41 |
| efried | anyway, you're right, this certainly reduces the usefulness of the suggestion. So I'm fine if you want to do it or skip it. | 15:41 |
| efried | stephenfin: were you wanting to respin to add those two missed ones anyway? | 15:42 |
| stephenfin | I might skip it, if that's OK. It's not any shorter and, IMO, is probably less clear | 15:42 |
| efried | okay | 15:42 |
| stephenfin | Yup, working at that atm | 15:42 |
| efried | k | 15:42 |
| edmondsw | efried I added a couple comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578840 that you might want to squeeze into that, but could also be a follow-on | 15:42 |
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| edmondsw | burgerk would be a good source for information / reviewer | 15:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Mention PowerVM support of config drive https://review.openstack.org/578840 | 15:44 |
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| efried | added him. | 15:45 |
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| mdbooth | mriedem: This is a WIP, but you had a (now abandoned) patch up for this bug a couple of years ago: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578846/ | 15:48 |
| mdbooth | cfriesen: You killed it :) | 15:48 |
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| mriedem | mdbooth: you kind of left me hanging here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572790/ | 15:53 |
| mriedem | so you're in my doghouse | 15:53 |
| mriedem | and yeah looks like my failed attempt was https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288109/ | 15:54 |
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| mdbooth | mriedem: Sorry, thought we were good on the other patch. I'll pick it up again. | 15:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Usages per project and user (v1.8, v1.9) https://review.openstack.org/514646 | 16:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: CLI allocation candidates (v1.10) https://review.openstack.org/514647 | 16:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: New dict format of allocations (v1.11, v1.12) https://review.openstack.org/542819 | 16:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Transactionally update allocations (v1.13) https://review.openstack.org/546674 | 16:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Add nested resource providers (v1.14) https://review.openstack.org/546675 | 16:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Limit allocation candidates (v1.15, v1.16) https://review.openstack.org/548043 | 16:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Allocation candidates parameter: required (v1.17) https://review.openstack.org/548326 | 16:03 |
| mriedem | gibi: i think the bottom of that series is good now ^ | 16:03 |
| mriedem | i just cleaned up some leftovers from the command split | 16:03 |
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| efried | gibi: IIRC, the func test failure here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/560317/17/nova/tests/functional/libvirt/test_report_cpu_traits.py looks similar to a race you debugged... somewhere else. Do you remember offhand what the fix was? | 16:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Use ironic-tempest-dsvm-ipa-wholedisk-bios-agent_ipmitool-tinyipa in tree https://review.openstack.org/578878 | 16:15 |
| mriedem | would be nice to get this in so we don't burn nodes on docs-only changes ^ | 16:15 |
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| stephenfin | mriedem: Any idea is zuul supports YAML roles/anchors, like we use for the API samples (I think)? | 16:18 |
| stephenfin | https://anil.io/blog/symfony/yaml/using-variables-in-yaml-files/ | 16:18 |
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| mriedem | no idea | 16:20 |
| mriedem | to define irrelevant-files? | 16:20 |
| stephenfin | aye | 16:20 |
| mriedem | ask in -infra | 16:20 |
| stephenfin | Will do | 16:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: tox: Reuse envdirs https://review.openstack.org/534382 | 16:32 |
| stephenfin | efried: ^ | 16:32 |
| efried | ... | 16:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Use ironic-tempest-dsvm-ipa-wholedisk-bios-agent_ipmitool-tinyipa in tree https://review.openstack.org/578878 | 16:33 |
| mriedem | stephenfin: ^ mostly copied from how i see we do that in api-ref parameters.yaml | 16:33 |
| stephenfin | ack | 16:34 |
| efried | stephenfin: +2, added notes for future me. | 16:34 |
| mriedem | maybe i should split that out into it's own change... | 16:34 |
| stephenfin | probably not a bad idea | 16:34 |
| stephenfin | unless you're backporting, in which case meh | 16:34 |
| mriedem | zuul already barfed on it | 16:34 |
| mriedem | i am backporting | 16:34 |
| stephenfin | Hmm, wonder if zuul has an local linter | 16:35 |
| mriedem | no i think i just copied an example incorrectly | 16:35 |
| mriedem | so i think i'm going to revert to PS1 and then do the dedupe in a non-backportable follow up | 16:36 |
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| stephenfin | ack | 16:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Use ironic-tempest-dsvm-ipa-wholedisk-bios-agent_ipmitool-tinyipa in tree https://review.openstack.org/578878 | 16:37 |
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| stephenfin | exit | 16:42 |
| stephenfin | whoops | 16:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Define common variables for irrelevant-files https://review.openstack.org/578882 | 16:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Define common variables for irrelevant-files https://review.openstack.org/578882 | 16:43 |
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| efried | stephenfin: Where can I find a real os_vif plugin? | 17:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove file injection from config drive sample docs https://review.openstack.org/578888 | 17:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-traits master: Add COMPUTE_TRUSTED_CERTS trait https://review.openstack.org/576595 | 17:04 |
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| efried | mriedem: Do you know where I can find a real os_vif plugin? | 17:08 |
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| mriedem | efried: yeah | 17:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: More config drive docs updates https://review.openstack.org/578890 | 17:09 |
| mriedem | https://github.com/Juniper/contrail-nova-vif-driver | 17:10 |
| mriedem | efried: ^ | 17:10 |
| efried | mriedem: Thanks | 17:10 |
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| efried | jangutter: Still lurking? | 17:15 |
| jangutter | efried: yaaaaaas. | 17:17 |
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| efried | jangutter: I'm looking at the Juniper contrail os-vif plugin and wanted to confirm what I think I'm seeing. | 17:17 |
| jangutter | efried: actually, the real "reference" plugins are in the os-vif repo for vif_plug_ovs | 17:18 |
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| jangutter | efried : and linuxbridge I think. | 17:18 |
| efried | jangutter: First of all, I'm not particularly well-versed on libvirt. But IIUC, plugging a vif entails 1) creating some kind of device thingy on the host, and then 2) modifying the instance's XML to make it show up in the instance. Do I have this right? | 17:18 |
| jangutter | efried: go ahead. it really is as bad as you think. | 17:18 |
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| jangutter | efried: the ones I've seen work like this: the xml for libvirt sometimes goes above and beyond. Spawining the VM (which creates the thingy) and plugging the thingy into another thingy in one fell swoop. | 17:20 |
| efried | jangutter: Well, my question is more generic ^ | 17:20 |
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| jangutter | efried: the trick is, only the very first few bridges were built like that, then people started building their own. | 17:20 |
| jangutter | efried: which means that, in libvirt you can _also_ say, spawn the VM and leave the thingy dangling, then, call the os-vif plugin to plug the thingy into the thingy. | 17:21 |
| jangutter | efried: and I'm not 100% sure of the order. in theory the order should be independent. | 17:22 |
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| efried | jangutter: Right, but my point is this: When my virt driver invokes the plug() method, once that method returns, the virt driver doesn't need to do anything else (like update the xml), right? | 17:22 |
| jangutter | efried: OVS, for example, doesn't really care about the order since it listens to netdevs appearing. | 17:22 |
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| jangutter | efried: yeah, those paths diverge completely in libvirt. | 17:23 |
| jangutter | efried: you're talking about the os-vif plugin's plug() method, right? | 17:24 |
| efried | yes | 17:24 |
| efried | jangutter: I'm reviewing cyborg's os-acc spec, and Sundar is asserting that plug() is supposed to return some kind of (platform-specific) metadata that the caller then has to use to do the actual attach of the device. He says in libvirt the metadata would comprise an XML blob and the post-plug() attach would entail injecting that into the instance's XML. | 17:26 |
| efried | jangutter: And that sounds wrong to me, even assuming it's the way os-vif does things. But afaict, it's *not* the way os-vif does things. Once you're done with plug(), you're plugged, end of story. | 17:26 |
| jangutter | efried: aaah, I see: with os-vif the info very much flows one-way there. | 17:26 |
| efried | and I'm just trying to get confirmation of that so I can respond with... confidence :) | 17:27 |
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| jangutter | efried: however. os-vif is still inside Nova at this point, so it's conceivable to think of something like like a query mechanism. It's fraught with peril though. | 17:29 |
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| efried | jangutter: I'm more concerned about the intent of the architecture than any gory details of the existing implementation. | 17:29 |
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| efried | jangutter: I think I've got what I need here. Dankie vir die hulp. | 17:30 |
| jangutter | efried: Plesier! | 17:30 |
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| jangutter | efried: the os-acc object should be translateable to libvirt xml without any plugin intervention whatsoever. | 17:31 |
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| efried | jangutter: But the point is that nobody outside of the plugin itself should need to do that. | 17:34 |
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| jangutter | efried: with os-vif, the translation from the os-vif object to libvirt xml happens inside Nova (completely outside os-vif, and not inside the plugin). | 17:35 |
| efried | jangutter: Hm, then I must be missing where that's being injected into the instance's XML. I'll look again... | 17:36 |
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| efried | mriedem: From here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/569498/6/nova/conductor/manager.py@1029 is there no better way to discover the compute node RP than ComputeNode.get_by_host_and_nodename() ? | 17:38 |
| jangutter | efried: Here's one way it gets converted: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/unit/virt/libvirt/test_vif.py#L1795 | 17:39 |
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| efried | jangutter: Aha, I see it now. The plug method isn't returning anything, but the vif object is being used afterwards. Thanks for the pointer. | 17:42 |
| jangutter | efried: yeah, a couple of os-vif plugins just pass, because libvirt does the heavy lifting. | 17:43 |
| efried | In Power's case, it'll be vice versa. | 17:43 |
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| mriedem | efried: that's pretty common lookup for the 'source' compute in move operations at least, | 17:48 |
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| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conductor/tasks/live_migrate.py#L205 | 17:49 |
| mriedem | where self.source = instance.host | 17:49 |
| mriedem | we can rebuild ironic nodes so we'd really need to call ComputeNode.get_by_host_and_nodename() using instance.host and instance.node | 17:49 |
| efried | mriedem: Yeah, saw that. It just seemed pretty heavy-weight. Thought there might be a lighter way to get the compute node UUID. | 17:49 |
| mriedem | from the instance? | 17:49 |
| efried | yeah, or from something else we could potentially have at that point in the code path. | 17:50 |
| efried | like maybe we already looked it up somewhere... | 17:50 |
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| mriedem | not for rebuild | 17:51 |
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| efried | okay, thanks. | 17:52 |
| mriedem | i don't see ComputeNode.get_by_host_and_nodename() being used in that code, so i'm kind of missing the link - they are just looking up the provider tree a different way right? | 17:52 |
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| mriedem | so you're going to tell them to use ComputeNode.get_by_host_and_nodename() ? | 17:53 |
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| efried | mriedem: It was karimull's idea to do that; I was just wanting to verify that there wasn't a better way. | 17:55 |
| efried | (karimull has a tendency to PM me rather than tagging me in here, which would be better, hint hint.) | 17:56 |
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| efried | Dude, this cyborg stuff is, like, a full-time job. | 18:07 |
| cdent | s/cyborg/*/ | 18:08 |
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| cdent | too many things | 18:08 |
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| mriedem | you need to accelerate | 18:14 |
| mriedem | amphetamines | 18:14 |
| mriedem | Meth-as-a-service?! | 18:14 |
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| cdent | that acronym's taken | 18:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Use consumer generation in _heal_allocations_for_instance https://review.openstack.org/577905 | 20:17 |
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| mriedem | efried: yeah this is fun https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576099/ | 20:33 |
| mriedem | i think that especially probably kills vcenter because it's 1 compute service per vcenter cluster, which can have like what 1000s of vms? | 20:34 |
| mriedem | i wonder if powervc has hit something like that... | 20:34 |
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| mriedem | i sent it on to our internal perf team b/c they hit some similar types of issues where the big lock in the RT was being held too long when there are like 80 vms on the same host | 20:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Corey Bryant proposed openstack/nova master: Refresh block device connection_info on hard reboot https://review.openstack.org/579004 | 20:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: RT stats deepcopy 1x/node instead of 1x/instance https://review.openstack.org/576591 | 21:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | karim proposed openstack/nova master: Handle rebuild of instances with image traits https://review.openstack.org/569498 | 21:31 |
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| efried | mriedem: "kind of surprising given it was red hat people adding it" A guy who worked at IBM is surprised that one guy in a company with thousands of employees could have no clue what's happening in the next department over? | 21:40 |
| efried | ffs, I can't tell you what most of the people in my *own* department are doing. | 21:41 |
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| mriedem | i hold red hatters to a higher standard... | 21:44 |
| mriedem | i mean, they all wear the same red hat | 21:44 |
| mriedem | therefore, should have a shared knowledge base | 21:45 |
| mriedem | like the borg | 21:45 |
| mriedem | efried: you don't have to endure daily standups? | 21:45 |
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| efried | I almost never stand | 21:45 |
| efried | Is standup the new scrum? | 21:46 |
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| efried | I have a daily scrum on my calendar. But... that's pretty much where it stays. | 21:46 |
| mriedem | synonyms i think | 21:46 |
| mriedem | i think some people literally stand during their scrum though | 21:47 |
| mriedem | for some reason | 21:47 |
| mriedem | whiteboarding? | 21:47 |
| efried | I also have a weekly thing on my calendar that's called "scrum" that bears no resemblance to an actual scrum. Scheduled for an hour, for starters. | 21:47 |
| mriedem | my posture was almost always the worst of the day during a scrum | 21:47 |
| efried | DEs <rolls eyes> what can you do? | 21:47 |
| mriedem | scrum of scrums?! | 21:47 |
| efried | It isn't even that. | 21:48 |
| mriedem | scrumaggedon | 21:48 |
| efried | It's ppt pushers getting together to decide what ppt they're going to push on what exec | 21:48 |
| efried | I'm sure it's very important. Just not for me. | 21:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Rick Bartra proposed openstack/nova master: Add granularity to os-services API https://review.openstack.org/578553 | 21:49 |
| cfriesen | I used to do an *actual* scrum...playing rugby | 21:49 |
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| efried | yeah, me too. For like a week and a half when I was like 14. And I was like, wait, we do this in *winter*? And, like, *hit* each other? | 21:50 |
| efried | Ironically, now that I'm 41, I grapple with people year round and have cauliflower ear as if I actually stuck with the rugby. | 21:51 |
| cfriesen | I was going to say... | 21:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Rick Bartra proposed openstack/nova master: Add granularity to os-services API https://review.openstack.org/578553 | 21:54 |
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| mriedem | efried: can you answer my question in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/519601/ before i approve? | 22:23 |
| efried | ... | 22:24 |
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| efried | mriedem: Done, hope it's clear. | 22:26 |
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| mriedem | ah ok | 22:27 |
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| efried | looking at your other comment now, you async reviewer, you. | 22:28 |
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| efried | done | 22:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Fix the rescue race for vGPU instances https://review.openstack.org/577424 | 22:41 |
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| melwitt | efried: this bug looks up your alley, ksa UnknownConnectionError, maybe you could triage whether there's a problem there or if it's just a deployment issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1778498 | 23:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1778498 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "cannot launch instance" [Undecided,New] | 23:35 |
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