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| vpc | how can i do this | 04:57 |
| vpc | Take snapshot of an instance along with attached volume | 04:57 |
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| vpc | anyone here successfully build trove image? | 07:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Add instance.unlock notification https://review.openstack.org/576703 | 08:23 |
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| quiquell|rover | Hello, we are trying to debug the following problem at nova http://logs.openstack.org/85/564285/20/check/tripleo-ci-centos-7-scenario004-multinode-oooq-container/5894ea4/logs/subnode-2/var/log/containers/nova/nova-compute.log.txt.gz#_2018-06-20_01_54_41_655 | 08:34 |
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| quiquell|rover | Cannot update service status on host "centos-7-ovh-bhs1-0000241067.localdomain" since it is not registered | 08:35 |
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| stephenfin | efried: https://github.com/tox-dev/tox/commit/d5b9c0a93 (although it's going to be a year or so before we can rely on it 😞) | 09:03 |
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| yikun | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576702 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576703 lock/unlock notification | 09:30 |
| yikun | hi, gibi, you could take a look ^^^ when you have time, thanks | 09:30 |
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| gibi | yikun: thanks for picking that up, I will queue it up for review | 10:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: factor out pre_live_migration plug_vifs call https://review.openstack.org/566932 | 12:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: use dest host port bindings during pre_live_migration https://review.openstack.org/566933 | 12:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Wait for network-vif-plugged before starting live migration https://review.openstack.org/558001 | 13:10 |
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| gibi | yikun: left some comments in the lock/unlock notification patches. Thanks for picking this work up. | 13:13 |
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| efried | stephenfin: Beautiful! | 13:17 |
| mnaser | a fun one for this morning... we had a user resize a vm, status was "Confirm or Revert Resize/Migrate" inside horizon (so I assume the API status was the same) | 13:18 |
| mnaser | when they confirm or revert the resize: "HTTP exception thrown: Instance has not been resized." | 13:18 |
| stephenfin | fwiw, that was a series of lovely commits but they used GitHub's "helpful" squash on merge feature to work around the usually terrible commits allowed by GitHub's "helpful" pull request model | 13:18 |
| * stephenfin really doesn't like that model | 13:18 | |
| mnaser | the user deleted the vm so i cant reproduce unfortunately.. but i thought i'd bring it up if anyone seens something like this.. | 13:19 |
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| bauzas | mnaser: can't see the instance actions API ? | 13:20 |
| mnaser | oh is that kept after the instance is deleted? | 13:20 |
| mnaser | good idea | 13:21 |
| bauzas | mnaser: IIRC, yes | 13:21 |
| mnaser | if not i can look it up in the db | 13:21 |
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| mnaser | interesting | 13:21 |
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| mnaser | start, resize, two confirmResize's and delete | 13:21 |
| bauzas | mnaser: tbc, using this API could be giving you the request numbrer | 13:22 |
| mnaser | let me check the request id | 13:22 |
| mnaser | yep it does give the request id | 13:22 |
| bauzas | yup | 13:22 |
| mnaser | 204 for the confirmResize | 13:23 |
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| bauzas | mnaser: https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/#list-actions-for-server | 13:23 |
| bauzas | "Action information of deleted instances can be returned for requests starting with microversion 2.21." | 13:23 |
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| bauzas | so, you should get them | 13:23 |
| bauzas | mnaser: Queens for you, right? | 13:23 |
| mnaser | yep | 13:24 |
| bauzas | cool | 13:24 |
| bauzas | so yeah, try to see the req-id and look at the compute log | 13:24 |
| bauzas | (for the resize, I mean) | 13:24 |
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| efried | stephenfin: So I'm clear, this considers it a conflict even if the basepython is "inherited" from [testenv] ? | 13:25 |
| stephenfin | Yup | 13:25 |
| efried | stephenfin: And when you say it'll be changed from warning to error in the future - will that config option still be available to ignore that error? | 13:25 |
| mnaser | bauzas: interesting, looks like i twas looping on "Updating from migration 309e439d-0936-4363-ac36-e783fa7afc2b" | 13:26 |
| bauzas | mmmm | 13:26 |
| efried | stephenfin: I assume so; otherwise it winds up having not accomplished anything. So, /me happy. Thank you very much for working that. | 13:27 |
| bauzas | mnaser: you mean the server status or what? | 13:27 |
| bauzas | or the logs? | 13:27 |
| stephenfin | efried: Yeah, setting the option to True will allow you to ignore the override, so using 'py27' with '[testenv] basepython = python3' will still run 'python2.7' | 13:27 |
| efried | beaut | 13:27 |
| stephenfin | efried: If you leave the option at False (default), that will raise a warning and then error out in the next major version | 13:28 |
| bauzas | mnaser: ha, nevermind, found the log | 13:28 |
| bauzas | that's a RT log | 13:28 |
| mnaser | yep | 13:28 |
| efried | Guess I should get used to saying "schöne" | 13:28 |
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| mnaser | so it's almost like the migratios was never marked complete | 13:28 |
| mnaser | yeah it just looped that non-stop, let me try to check logs on the source machine | 13:28 |
| stephenfin | efried: and np. It's nice to work on other stuff in the Python ecosystem ever now and then, heh | 13:28 |
| bauzas | mnaser: given it's a RT log, you should get it every periodic time (default is 60 secs) | 13:29 |
| bauzas | mnaser: until you confirm the resize | 13:29 |
| mnaser | it looks like the resize confirm just never reached the compute node | 13:30 |
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| mnaser | "Found an unconfirmed migration during delete, id: 14157, status: confirming" | 13:33 |
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| mnaser | weird | 13:34 |
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| deepak_mourya | hi, in this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1770636 | 13:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1770636 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "placement API not translating CannotDeleteParentResourceProvider to 409 Conflict" [Low,Triaged] - Assigned to Deepak Mourya (mourya007) | 13:36 |
| deepak_mourya | Do we need to add exception for CannotDeleteParentResourceProvider only in https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/placement/handlers/resource_provider.py#L130-L140 and write test case or something else ? | 13:36 |
| bauzas | mnaser: not really weird, we just confirm the resize before deleting an instance | 13:36 |
| mnaser | bauzas: yes, but the status was 'confirming' | 13:36 |
| bauzas | mnaser: but you're right, that means the confirm never reached | 13:37 |
| mnaser | which further goes to the theory that i guess somehow the message was lost | 13:37 |
| bauzas | agreed | 13:37 |
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| bauzas | the migration possibly went fine, but then the confirm didn't | 13:37 |
| mnaser | i guess the bug here is once it goes into confirming, if something happens in the compute node, that vm is stuck forever | 13:37 |
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| efried | mgoddard: you around to discuss https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576588/3/nova/virt/ironic/driver.py@806 ? | 14:17 |
| efried | jroll, dtantsur: also ^ ? | 14:17 |
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| jroll | efried: what about it? :) | 14:21 |
| efried | jroll: I just left a response (sorry for the async) | 14:21 |
| jroll | oh, I only saw the first comment thread | 14:21 |
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| jroll | blah | 14:22 |
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| jroll | efried: I would vote to blow them away to maintain the current behavior | 14:23 |
| jroll | see if people start yelling | 14:23 |
| mgoddard | efried: just in a meeting, finishing shortly | 14:23 |
| jroll | and then tell them to set them on the ironic node instead :P | 14:23 |
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| efried | jroll: I think I agree that's the right approach for now. I'll submit a followon asap. Unless you think this is busted enough that I should try to yank it out of the gate. | 14:24 |
| jroll | efried: probably fine | 14:24 |
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| mgoddard | efried: IMO we should stick with the current broken behaviour then fix it, rather than changing to a different broken behaviour before fixing it | 14:28 |
| efried | mgoddard: Okay, that's what jroll said too; I agree that sounds like the right approach. | 14:29 |
| efried | mgoddard: Good spot btw. | 14:29 |
| efried | mgoddard: Do you think a followon patch is sufficient or should I yank this one? | 14:29 |
| mgoddard | efried: I think a follow on would be fine | 14:29 |
| efried | k | 14:29 |
| efried | thanks y'all. | 14:30 |
| mgoddard | efried: thanks for following up | 14:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Ironic update_provider_tree: restore traits override https://review.openstack.org/576877 | 14:32 |
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| dansmith | stephenfin: can haz? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576580 | 14:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Ironic update_provider_tree: restore traits override https://review.openstack.org/576877 | 15:28 |
| efried | jroll, mgoddard, dtantsur: ^ | 15:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova master: Comment proposed ironic fix for removal of ironic driver workaround https://review.openstack.org/576892 | 15:28 |
| mdbooth | dansmith: ^^^ tacks on the comment I mentioned, btw | 15:29 |
| zcorneli | limitations | 15:29 |
| zcorneli | Ach. search, not send... | 15:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Comment proposed ironic fix for removal of ironic driver workaround https://review.openstack.org/576892 | 15:31 |
| efried | mdbooth: I added the reference from the other patch. +2, thanks for the followup. | 15:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: RT stats deepcopy 1x/node instead of 1x/instance https://review.openstack.org/576591 | 15:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zack Cornelius proposed openstack/nova master: Implement file backed memory for instances in libvirt https://review.openstack.org/567876 | 16:25 |
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| zcorneli | mreidem: dansmith: ^ | 16:26 |
| dansmith | zcorneli: I think mriedem is on vacay fwiw | 16:26 |
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| dansmith | maybe stephenfin can look at this with me though, since I think he's been through it a couple times at least | 16:27 |
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| zcorneli | Yep, I think he's been through it at least once. | 16:28 |
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| stephenfin | zcorneli, dansmith: I have and I can | 16:28 |
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| dansmith | cool | 16:28 |
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| cfriesen | stephenfin: what's the usecase for file-backed memory? Optane-type devices? | 16:32 |
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| dansmith | cfriesen: primarily infiniband-attached memory, or maybe super-fast flash for certain cases | 16:35 |
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| cfriesen | looking at the patch briefly, I wonder if it would make more sense to just stop reporting any hugepages when file-backed memory is enabled on a compute node | 16:37 |
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| cfriesen | or can you have a mix of file-backed and regular instances on a node? | 16:37 |
| dansmith | you can't currently, although we could allow it in the future based on a flavor key or something | 16:38 |
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| dansmith | it's specific enough of a use case that I think it's probably fine to just mention that they don't mix, but if you want a follow-up for the hugepage thing that's fine | 16:38 |
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| cfriesen | dansmith: the patch currently checks for "if wantsmempages and wantsfilebacked" and raises an exception, I was just wondering whether it'd be cleaner to not report any hugepages. But if we might support both in the future then it makes more sense as-is. | 16:40 |
| dansmith | right | 16:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Convert ironic virt driver to update_provider_tree https://review.openstack.org/576588 | 16:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Add a microversion for consumer generation support https://review.openstack.org/565604 | 16:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Be graceful about vif plugging in early ironic driver startup https://review.openstack.org/576580 | 16:43 |
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| stephenfin | cfriesen: What dansmith said | 16:44 |
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| stephenfin | cfriesen: and I'd be happy to see a follow up addressing the hugepage case. Better principle of least surprise factor | 16:45 |
| dansmith | well, on the one hand, | 16:45 |
| dansmith | failing if they're in conflict is more visible | 16:45 |
| dansmith | as configuring them both and then having hugepages just not be exposed might be more obscure, amirite? | 16:45 |
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| stephenfin | That's a good point | 16:46 |
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| dansmith | tssurya: melwitt and mriedem are out this week, so I'm assuming no cells meeting | 16:50 |
| dansmith | it'd be more like a conversation than a meeting :) | 16:50 |
| tssurya | dansmith: was just about to ask if we are having one | 16:50 |
| tssurya | I agree | 16:50 |
| tssurya | let's skip then | 16:50 |
| dansmith | cool | 16:51 |
| tssurya | dansmith: question regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575996/ , | 16:51 |
| tssurya | does this mean you are against a new microversion ? | 16:51 |
| tssurya | meaning against the adding of the new top key ? | 16:51 |
| dansmith | tssurya: I'm surprised that other people aren't | 16:51 |
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| tssurya | actually I should probably also ask the API guys | 16:52 |
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| dansmith | tssurya: I'm not against it, I was just surprised to see it and was baiting others into responding | 16:52 |
| dansmith | tssurya: I think we should also ask someone like mordred | 16:52 |
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| tssurya | as of now its just been gibi and mriedem on it | 16:52 |
| mordred | what did I do? | 16:52 |
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| dansmith | tssurya: see how that works? like beetlejuice | 16:52 |
| dansmith | mordred: I'll need to explain: | 16:52 |
| tssurya | dansmith: hehe :D | 16:52 |
| dansmith | mordred: multiple cells, instances spread across them all. assume one cell is completely unreachable right now | 16:53 |
| dansmith | mordred: would you, the api consumer, prefer either: | 16:53 |
| dansmith | mordred: 1. servers: [ ... ] to include all your instances, but for the ones we can't get the details on, a majorly limited structure with basically just the uuid and an unknown state, or | 16:54 |
| dansmith | mordred: 2. servers: [ ... ] for the ones we can get like normal, and another top-level key of unreachable: [ ... ] which contains the shell instances we can't get the details on | 16:54 |
| mordred | jeez. that's a good question | 16:55 |
| dansmith | option 2 would mean existing clients see instances disappear from the main servers list (unless they go looking in unreachable, which is most of my concern | 16:55 |
| dansmith | option 1 would likely mean the shell instances sort in the wrong order, and are obviously missing a bunch of detail, | 16:55 |
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| dansmith | but at least you continue to see them there where you did ten minutes ago before the outage | 16:55 |
| mordred | I think I prefer option 1 - with status=='unknown' or something like that ... | 16:56 |
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| dansmith | okay, potential corollary: | 16:56 |
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| mordred | but - trying to think through some of the higher-level shade interactions and how we'd handle them | 16:57 |
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| dansmith | option 1a (future): we use memcache or something to stash the last-known image of an instance and could fill in a stale version of the whole thing for things that are down | 16:57 |
| dansmith | 1a could come in the future, but won't be available now | 16:57 |
| mordred | yah - I think 1a would be ideal | 16:57 |
| dansmith | if we did that later, option 2 would become 1a suddenly, and make the unreachable: key never used | 16:57 |
| dansmith | tssurya: all this I'm saying is correct yeah? | 16:58 |
| mordred | out of curiosity ... in the 1a world -if I get a list of stuff and it's got a stale cached server in it - and I do DELETE /servers/{id} ... what happens? | 16:58 |
| tssurya | dansmith: yea makes sense | 16:58 |
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| dansmith | mordred: do you want to ask about PUT instead of delete? | 16:58 |
| mordred | if the cell is still down - do I get a 404 for that? or do I get a 'retry again later please' ? | 16:59 |
| dansmith | delete is async right now, and does't go away immediately | 16:59 |
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| mordred | dansmith: well - both are questions I guess | 16:59 |
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| mordred | will the scheduler accept the async delete if the cell for the server is down? | 16:59 |
| dansmith | DELETE would "succeed" and never happen, like it does today for lots of things | 16:59 |
| tssurya | dansmith: although I never thought of doing 1a), plus we were thinking if we could fully req_spec as of now or not and maybe just go with uuids and not put in flavors and images | 16:59 |
| mordred | so it wouldn't eventually get queued and handled? | 16:59 |
| dansmith | PUT would fail with some code | 16:59 |
| dansmith | mordred: no | 16:59 |
| mordred | nod | 16:59 |
| dansmith | mordred: well, | 17:00 |
| dansmith | mordred: yeah, no. | 17:00 |
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| dansmith | tssurya: yeah that makes option 1 more completeish, and 1a a smaller delta | 17:00 |
| mordred | ok - both of those are handleable - just checking/thinking out loud | 17:00 |
| dansmith | mordred: ack | 17:00 |
| mordred | when you said "out of order" - how does that affect pagination? | 17:01 |
| mordred | if I'm iterating over a paginated call and a cell goes down ... | 17:01 |
| dansmith | mordred: if the cell goes down in the middle, probably poorly, | 17:01 |
| mordred | neat | 17:01 |
| tssurya | dansmith, mordred: do see gibi's and mriedem's concerns on going with option 1 here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557369/ | 17:01 |
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| dansmith | mordred: option 2 is less affected if your marker is an instance in one of the up cells | 17:01 |
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| dansmith | mordred: what we're trying to do is avoid the 500 we have right now and show you as much info as we can.. that's a noble goal right? | 17:02 |
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| mordred | dansmith: yah - totally! because otherwise cells makes the cloud less rather than more reliable | 17:02 |
| dansmith | tssurya: can you point me to a specific comment there? I skimmed some of that and didn't really hone in on the discussion around this specifically | 17:02 |
| tssurya | L85 | 17:02 |
| tssurya | ^^ | 17:02 |
| tssurya | basically setting stuff to UNKNOWN is not neat | 17:03 |
| tssurya | by stuff I mean fields, | 17:03 |
| dansmith | mordred: well, and we're trying to be more reliable than "our one database went down so we're stuck", just wanted to make sure you preferred that over consistency | 17:03 |
| dansmith | tssurya: I want the state to be unknown, | 17:04 |
| dansmith | tssurya: and the other fields can all be missing I think | 17:04 |
| mordred | dansmith: yeah - I think as long as there's a thing we can flag on for the different behavior, it should be fine | 17:04 |
| tssurya | dansmith: but the current API would complain since for some fields we surely need to have values like they can't be blank | 17:04 |
| mordred | and then yeah - state of unknown to me then says you can either omit the other fields or set their value to null | 17:04 |
| tssurya | (right?) | 17:04 |
| dansmith | mordred: ack | 17:05 |
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| mordred | clients are going to need to handle servers in an unknown state regardless - there is no magical thing we can do to make this transparent for existing api consumers | 17:05 |
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| dansmith | tssurya: yeah, maybe, but that seems like mechanics we can work around if we need | 17:05 |
| tssurya | mordred: setting it to NULL/empty is kind of like lying and not truth also | 17:05 |
| dansmith | tssurya: mordred is a "real api consumer" which is why I want his opinion on this | 17:05 |
| mordred | so I think saying "if you get a server in state UNKNOWN - here's what that means for the rest of the thing" | 17:05 |
| tssurya | dansmith: ack :) | 17:05 |
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| mordred | tssurya: yah - totally - honestly I think we could also remove the whole entry (this is a microversion behavior, right?) | 17:06 |
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| mordred | sorry - when I said whole entry - I mean key and value | 17:06 |
| dansmith | tssurya: well, saying we don't know what the value is is definitely more honest than saying it _is_ "unknown" or some fake value | 17:06 |
| tssurya | dansmith: true, | 17:06 |
| dansmith | mordred: yeah, so before a microversion you'd get a 500 if a cell is down I guess | 17:06 |
| mordred | I know there is a concern about hitting key errors - but if you opt in to this microversion, you're saying you can deal with unknown state servers | 17:06 |
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| mordred | dansmith: ++ | 17:07 |
| dansmith | which is an odd microversion, but.. | 17:07 |
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| mordred | well - it's a "list servers with this microversion because I can handle some of the servers in the list having less keys thn I was expecting" | 17:07 |
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| dansmith | it's a pretty well-baited one, because if you don't opt into that one for list, you're basically saying "meh, I can't handle the inconsistency" so we're helping by not showing you anything | 17:07 |
| mordred | whereas existing code is just going to error | 17:07 |
| dansmith | yes | 17:07 |
| mordred | dansmith: exactly | 17:07 |
| mordred | it's the old data consistency thing - it's better for the entire data store to be unavailable than to behave ina half-available state and maybe lose data when you thought it was ok | 17:08 |
| dansmith | yeah, like gibi said, | 17:08 |
| tssurya | mordred: right | 17:08 |
| mordred | current behavior is 500 - nobody gets accidentally hosed - they can always retry the query until it stops 500ing | 17:08 |
| mordred | ++ | 17:08 |
| dansmith | if we report hostId=UNKNOWN, then a client thinks all the instances are suddenly on the same host :) | 17:08 |
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| dansmith | tssurya: okay so anyway, I think mordred and I agree on this, so I'll comment on the spec about this convo and maybe we can sync up with mriedem when he's back next week and see what he thinks | 17:09 |
| dansmith | tssurya: are you opposed to making this unified or are you okay with either? | 17:10 |
| tssurya | dansmith: ack | 17:10 |
| dansmith | and which is your preference? | 17:10 |
| tssurya | I am okay with either | 17:10 |
| dansmith | all things equal, I mean, which do you think is better? | 17:10 |
| mordred | dansmith: would we have the addresses dict since those are coming from neutron? or do those get stored in the cells db? | 17:10 |
| tssurya | as long as we give at least the uuid back | 17:10 |
| dansmith | mordred: we would have to hit neutron for it since our _cache_ of those values are in the cell db | 17:10 |
| tssurya | like keeping the current 500 behavior if 1 out of 70 goes down is wrong for sure | 17:11 |
| dansmith | tssurya: yeah okay | 17:11 |
| mordred | nod. I mean - I already have code to hit neutron api if the addresses dict is empty - so I'm fine if it's not | 17:11 |
| tssurya | 1) we fix this with skipping down cells as first step 2) return just the uuids with rest as empty | 17:11 |
| mordred | tssurya: uuid and name (filtering on name client-side is frequent/important) | 17:11 |
| tssurya | makes sense ? | 17:11 |
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| mordred | if it's possible | 17:12 |
| dansmith | mordred: we don't have easy access to the name, but we can get it from the reqspec if you think it's important | 17:12 |
| tssurya | mordred: we were thinking of skipping a cell if filters are used | 17:12 |
| dansmith | yeah, if you're filtering, and we don't know the value, we assume no match | 17:12 |
| tssurya | dansmith: we don't have the name in req_spec right ? | 17:12 |
| dansmith | tssurya: the display name? | 17:12 |
| tssurya | yes | 17:13 |
| tssurya | meaning we don't have the display_name | 17:13 |
| tssurya | in req_spec | 17:13 |
| dansmith | oh, I guess I'm thinking of buildreq, which stores it while we're building | 17:13 |
| dansmith | so yeah maybe not | 17:13 |
| mordred | ah - we don't have the name? hrm. | 17:14 |
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| tssurya | mordred: no :( the only info we can get is uuid, flavor, image, avz, project_id | 17:15 |
| dansmith | the point here is to not store the same thing in multiple places where it gets out of sync (like in cellsv1) | 17:15 |
| stephenfin | zcorneli|lunch: One nit left in that that should be fixed but not blocking on it. If you could address that (and anything else you fancy fixing) in a follow up, that would be appreciated. | 17:16 |
| tssurya | dansmith: yea and I agree with not adding info into top API, but we should make use of the existing info | 17:16 |
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| dansmith | tssurya: yeah | 17:16 |
| tssurya | infact just the uuid would also be good enough with the state as UNKNOWN like you said | 17:16 |
| tssurya | and we would anyways need a "odd microversion" bump | 17:16 |
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| mordred | hrm. well - it would make things a bit awkward for ansible dynamic inventory without name ... but if that's life, I guess that's life | 17:17 |
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| tssurya | mordred: :) | 17:17 |
| mordred | basically it'll make operations that are working with servers that are up not able to find the server if part of the api control is down if/when those servers are being managed by name and not uuid | 17:18 |
| mordred | BUT | 17:18 |
| mordred | maybe that's just life - the existing system would mean you can't deal with ANY of your servers - so it's still an improvement | 17:18 |
| dansmith | yeah | 17:19 |
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| dansmith | if we do the 1a option then it gets better | 17:19 |
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| mordred | yup | 17:19 |
| tssurya | yea | 17:19 |
| mordred | so yeah - I think 1 followed by 1a would be great | 17:19 |
| dansmith | mordred: thanks for the discussion! | 17:20 |
| tssurya | mordred: totally appreciate your view and opinion on this :) thanks! | 17:20 |
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| tssurya | dansmith: so you will write a comment on yours and mordred's behalf in the spec ? | 17:20 |
| dansmith | tssurya: am now yeah | 17:20 |
| tssurya | and then we can discuss it with mriedem and gibi next week | 17:21 |
| tssurya | dansmith: thanks! | 17:21 |
| dansmith | yup | 17:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Optimize member_of check for nested providers https://review.openstack.org/573203 | 17:29 |
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| zcorneli | stephenfin: Ack. I'll fix that up. | 17:45 |
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| dansmith | zcorneli: bonus points if you fix up the stuff in the devstack patch so we can merge that | 18:00 |
| dansmith | if not, I'll try to get around to it at some point | 18:00 |
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| zcorneli | Sure, IIRC it looked pretty simple/quick to fix up the stuff mriedem was looking for. | 18:01 |
| dansmith | yup | 18:01 |
| zcorneli | dansmith: I've also got the discard patch almost ready to review as well. | 18:01 |
| dansmith | zcorneli: excellent | 18:01 |
| zcorneli | dansmith: Going to finish the fix up patch, rebase onto it, then post, I think. | 18:02 |
| zcorneli | Then I can take a crack at the devstack fixup. | 18:02 |
| dansmith | cool | 18:02 |
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| mnaser | so mriedem was working on a patch adding `nova-status upgrade check as part of openstack ansible deployment which is really sweet, but one of the issues we're having is detecting what action we're missing | 18:39 |
| mnaser | is it possible to perhaps have a different exit code depending on which 'issue' | 18:39 |
| mnaser | in this case, upgrading from queens to master (rocky), we need to restart placement | 18:40 |
| mnaser | like maybe some sort of .. cli friendly output so we can run `nova-status upgrade check` once | 18:41 |
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| mnaser | then have conditionals depending if it returns something like out_of_date_placement => restart placement, etc | 18:41 |
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| dansmith | returning different statuses per check would make it unstable across releases, which is probably undesirable | 18:42 |
| dansmith | how about just some sort of robot-friendly output? | 18:42 |
| mnaser | yeah i was just thinking how complicated that would become at some point | 18:42 |
| mnaser | but robot friendly output, something like one line per 'check' .. only if there is something | 18:43 |
| mnaser | that way, we can run it once, ignore exit code, and then have tasks after it conditional if output matches that string | 18:43 |
| dansmith | like --only-critical | 18:43 |
| dansmith | and one per line, csv-separated or something | 18:43 |
| mnaser | yes | 18:43 |
| dansmith | --only-critical --robot-friendly | 18:43 |
| cdent | --with-ponies | 18:44 |
| mnaser | --emojis | 18:44 |
| cdent | --and-pudding | 18:44 |
| cdent | exactly | 18:44 |
| dansmith | too far. | 18:44 |
| mnaser | there is 6 warnings and 11 failures | 18:45 |
| mnaser | UpgradeCheckResult | 18:45 |
| mnaser | er | 18:45 |
| mnaser | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/cmd/status.py | 18:45 |
| mnaser | UpgradeCheckResult has 'user friendly' messages but we can just add another value to it | 18:45 |
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| mnaser | i think ill push up a patch for that | 18:46 |
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| openstack | bug 1764883 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Evacuation fails if the source host returns while the migration is still in progress" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1764883 - Assigned to Lee Yarwood (lyarwood) | 19:05 |
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| mnaser | dansmith: ^ my first attempt.. not sure who might be best to look over it too :) | 19:21 |
| mnaser | we can use that in openstack ansible | 19:21 |
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| mnaser | mordred: :D i'm sure there is a quite a few | 19:27 |
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| dansmith | mnaser: mriedem is the right person :) | 19:31 |
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| mnaser | dansmith: cool, thanks | 19:33 |
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| edmondsw | efried esberglu ^ | 20:52 |
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| artom | afazekas, gonna head home for the day, I've put an update in the bz. You've handed me a puzzler :/ | 20:56 |
| artom | Grr, was meant for our downstream chan | 20:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Implement file backed memory for instances in libvirt https://review.openstack.org/567876 | 20:58 |
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| zcorneli | dansmith: stephenfin: ^ | 21:13 |
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