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| pvc | libvirtError: internal error: qemu unexpectedly closed the monitor: 2018-06-05T02:43:47.447602Z qemu-kvm: -device vfio-pci,host=01:00.0,id=hostdev0,bus=pci.0,addr=0x5: vfio error: 0000:01:00.0: group 1 is not viable | 02:45 |
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| pvc | libvirtError: internal error: qemu unexpectedly closed the monitor: 2018-06-05T02:43:47.447602Z qemu-kvm: -device vfio-pci,host=01:00.0,id=hostdev0,bus=pci.0,addr=0x5: vfio error: 0000:01:00.0: group 1 is not viable | 02:48 |
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| pvc | Hi all can some help me vfio error: 0000:01:00.0: group 1 is not viable | 02:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/ocata: libvirt: Report the virtual size of RAW disks https://review.openstack.org/568382 | 05:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: z/VM Driver: Spawn and destroy function of z/VM driver https://review.openstack.org/527658 | 07:12 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: z/VM Driver: add snapshot function https://review.openstack.org/534240 | 07:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Move db using provider unit tests to functional https://review.openstack.org/572280 | 07:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Move db using allocation unit tests to functional https://review.openstack.org/572281 | 07:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Naichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: xenapi(N-R-P): Add API to support vgpu resource provider create https://review.openstack.org/520313 | 07:56 |
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| tssurya | good morning gibi, whenever you have the time could you confirm the comment from mriedem in this spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557369/1/specs/rocky/approved/handling-down-cell.rst regarding the Notifications impact ? | 08:01 |
| tssurya | thanks in advance! | 08:01 |
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| jangutter | Good morning! In the spirit of spec review day, is anyone interested in reviewing a spec for a $network $thingy? As a pleasant side effect, hopefully one more legacy VIF can be moved to os-vif. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/567148/ | 08:22 |
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| gibi | tssurya: good morning! looking... | 08:58 |
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| gibi | tssurya: left couple of comments. But I agree with Matt that there is no notification impact | 09:31 |
| tssurya | gibi: thanks :) | 09:31 |
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| pvc | hi gibi | 09:38 |
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| pvc | i sucessfully launch an instance with GPU | 09:38 |
| pvc | but there is a time that my hypervisor is going down | 09:38 |
| pvc | gibi and i cant access the instance on it | 09:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Allow cinderv2 endpoints within the request context catalog https://review.openstack.org/572213 | 09:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brianna Poulos proposed openstack/nova master: Plumb trusted_certs through libvirt driver image paths https://review.openstack.org/561262 | 10:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brianna Poulos proposed openstack/nova master: Add notification support for trusted_certs https://review.openstack.org/563269 | 10:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brianna Poulos proposed openstack/nova master: Add notification support for trusted_certs https://review.openstack.org/563269 | 10:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Brianna Poulos proposed openstack/nova master: Add certificate validation docs https://review.openstack.org/560158 | 10:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova stable/ocata: libvirt: slow live-migration to ensure network is ready https://review.openstack.org/559034 | 11:04 |
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| pvc | hi anyone | 11:15 |
| pvc | can help me | 11:15 |
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| gibi | pvc: "but there is a time that my hypervisor is going down" this is not specific enough for me to be able to help troubleshooting it | 11:17 |
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| pvc | gibi i have an instance residing on that hypervisor | 11:18 |
| pvc | with gpu on it | 11:18 |
| pvc | then my hypervisor always restarting i dont know why | 11:18 |
| pvc | compute host that have a PCI passthrough | 11:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chen Hanxiao proposed openstack/nova master: sync_guest_time: use the proper errno https://review.openstack.org/572346 | 11:26 |
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| gibi | pvc: have you tried to dig into your hypervisor logs to see why it restarted? | 11:41 |
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| ttsiouts | gibi: Thanks for the comments on the PENDING state spec! | 12:50 |
| ttsiouts | gibi: Whenever you have some time I wanted to ask you something before I update it.. | 12:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.exists notification https://review.openstack.org/403660 | 12:51 |
| gibi | ttsiouts: I have now 10 minutes before I have to join a call | 12:51 |
| ttsiouts | I'll try to make it quick | 12:52 |
| ttsiouts | :) | 12:52 |
| ttsiouts | I wanted to ask about the note on scheduler hints.. | 12:52 |
| ttsiouts | The intention was to not include them in the payload | 12:53 |
| ttsiouts | but it would be really helpful to have the forced_nodes/hosts | 12:53 |
| gibi | ttsiouts: I think it is a reasonable need for your Reaper to know those | 12:54 |
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| ttsiouts | gibi: awesome! | 12:54 |
| gibi | ttsiouts: if other cores are OK to include the hints I will not block this on the hints | 12:54 |
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| ttsiouts | gibi: thank you very much!! I will update the spec | 12:55 |
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| gibi | ttsiouts: cool. thanks for pushing that spec forward | 12:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Standardize CPU resource tracking https://review.openstack.org/555081 | 13:00 |
| bhagyashri_s | efried: Hi, | 13:00 |
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| gibi | ttsiouts: you can ignore my rebuild in cell0 question in the PENDING spec as I now found your other spec about rebuild in cell0 :) | 13:01 |
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| jaypipes | gibi: crap... just saw your comments on the cpu-resources spec. :) | 13:01 |
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| jaypipes | gibi: will answer on the last revision. | 13:01 |
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| gibi | jaypipes: no problem | 13:05 |
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| efried | bhagyashri_s: Hello | 13:07 |
| bhagyashri_s | efried, jaypipes, bauzas: Addressed review comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/560459/ could you please help to review Thank you :) | 13:07 |
| efried | ack | 13:07 |
| bauzas | ack | 13:07 |
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| bhagyashri_s | efried, jaypipes, bauzas: thank you :) | 13:09 |
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| jangutter | Good $timezone! In the spirit of spec review day, is anyone interested in reviewing a spec for a $network $thingy? As a pleasant side effect, hopefully one more legacy VIF can be moved to os-vif. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/567148/ | 13:17 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: tssurya: dansmith: we might need to setup a call at some point for the 'handling a down' cell spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557369/ | 13:43 |
| mriedem | lots of questions for me on that right now | 13:43 |
| dansmith | okay | 13:43 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: you should run through the comments and discussion in there and then see what you think about a call | 13:45 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: okay, before I do, do you know anything about the functional.libvirt.test_pci_sriov_servers tests? | 13:46 |
| dansmith | I seem to have destabilized them as they pass in isolation but not on top of my patch when run with everything else | 13:46 |
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| dansmith | looks like vladik wrote them initially | 13:47 |
| dansmith | maybe stephenfin knows about them? | 13:47 |
| stephenfin | dansmith: It's been a while since I touched them | 13:47 |
| dansmith | stephenfin: http://logs.openstack.org/95/572195/1/check/nova-tox-functional/cbf4f55/testr_results.html.gz | 13:47 |
| dansmith | get that most of the time when running in parallel, but they pass when I run them by themselves | 13:48 |
| dansmith | which smells like a bad mock | 13:48 |
| stephenfin | Yeah, looks like there's some global state getting trashed | 13:48 |
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| naichuans | efried: Hi, Eric, do you have any suggestion about vgpu rp delete? I posted a new patch | 13:49 |
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| stephenfin | dansmith: Nothing jumps out at me :/ | 13:53 |
| dansmith | nothing about that patch should be affecting global state to make that a legit failure, so I dunno | 13:53 |
| dansmith | if I run just that one module in parallel it fails, | 13:54 |
| dansmith | so it must be something internal to that | 13:54 |
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| dansmith | and not from another test | 13:54 |
| stephenfin | It's always _that_ test that fails, right? | 13:54 |
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| stephenfin | Or a variety of the tests from that module? | 13:54 |
| dansmith | yes, but only in parallel with the other tests in that file | 13:54 |
| efried | naichuans: not having looked at your update yet, the way I figured you would do it is: | 13:54 |
| efried | - Construct a set of all providers in the tree whose names start with your prefix (GPUG_ or VGPU_ or whatever it was). | 13:54 |
| efried | - Construct a set of all providers you *expect* there to be - i.e. the ones you've discovered from the host_data. | 13:54 |
| efried | - Subtract the second set from the first. This is the set of providers you need to delete. | 13:54 |
| efried | - For each provider that needs to be deleted, check for allocations. If you don't find any, you can delete the provider. If you do find allocations... I think you just have to set reserved=total and leave the provider there. | 13:54 |
| dansmith | if I run just that test, it passes | 13:54 |
| stephenfin | gotcha | 13:54 |
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| dansmith | stephenfin: there's another one in another file under libvirt/ there that also fails occasionally, but they seem to be unrelated | 13:55 |
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| dansmith | stephenfin: is that message indicating that some mock for the system's pinnable CPUs is not set and so it's empty? or something? | 13:56 |
| stephenfin | That message indicates you're trying to pin an instance but the CPUs aren't available | 13:57 |
| stephenfin | Generally because they're pinned to something else | 13:57 |
| naichuans | efried: OK, looks a acceptable choice, thanks. | 13:57 |
| dansmith | stephenfin: that list will be empty like that if the cpus are pinned elsewhere? | 13:57 |
| stephenfin | Yup | 13:57 |
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| dansmith | so like another test not having deleted a server or something? | 13:58 |
| mriedem | stephenfin: if you want, i can address my nits in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541290/ | 13:58 |
| dansmith | although they should all be getting an empty db | 13:58 |
| stephenfin | You're saying I want to take CPUs Y from the total host set of X | 13:58 |
| stephenfin | mriedem: Go for it | 13:59 |
| stephenfin | mriedem: and thanks | 13:59 |
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| stephenfin | dansmith: It could also be that we're booting two instances consecutively from different tests | 14:00 |
| dansmith | but they should have different databases and not see each other | 14:00 |
| stephenfin | except, yeah, each test gets its own sqlite DB | 14:00 |
| stephenfin | Hmm | 14:00 |
| mriedem | do the fake hosts/nodes in the tests have the same name? | 14:00 |
| mriedem | because the nova.tests.unit.virt.fake set_nodes or whatever is global | 14:01 |
| mriedem | one of the tests might not be resetting the fake node on cleanup? | 14:01 |
| dansmith | yeah | 14:01 |
| dansmith | I don't see them using fake set_nodes | 14:01 |
| dansmith | unless it's somewhere else | 14:01 |
| mriedem | parent class? | 14:02 |
| dansmith | I don't think so.. they | 14:02 |
| dansmith | are starting their own compute service for some reason | 14:02 |
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| dansmith | maybe so they can control the topology | 14:02 |
| stephenfin | dansmith: Yeah, that | 14:03 |
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| stephenfin | That's stored in nova.objects.compute_node.ComputeNode.numa_topology, which I think is created on startup for nova-compute | 14:04 |
| dansmith | and they don't do fake node set in the parent class(es) | 14:04 |
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| tssurya | mriedem: yea that spec is going crazy | 14:06 |
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| dansmith | stephenfin: hmm, just got two failures from that module in one run, so something is definitely wonky there | 14:06 |
| stephenfin | dansmith: Yeah, I'm taking a look at it now | 14:07 |
| dansmith | I really can't think of why my patch would be affecting this kind of thing | 14:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add 'numa-aware-vswitches' spec https://review.openstack.org/541290 | 14:09 |
| mriedem | stephenfin: fyi https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541290/17..18/specs/rocky/approved/numa-aware-vswitches.rst | 14:09 |
| mriedem | stephenfin: also, i haven't gone through the code series in detail yet, but it would be best if the api changes for this come at the end of the series | 14:10 |
| mriedem | so build everything from the bottom up | 14:10 |
| stephenfin | mriedem: Which API? | 14:10 |
| stephenfin | The neutron one? | 14:10 |
| mriedem | i.e. create_pci_requests_for_sriov_ports populating InstanceNUMANetworks to set in the RequestSpec comes last | 14:10 |
| stephenfin | gotcha | 14:11 |
| mriedem | yeah | 14:11 |
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| mriedem | then nothing gets 'turned on' until the end | 14:11 |
| dansmith | oh, I bet I know something related | 14:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Naichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: xenapi(N-R-P): Add API to support vgpu resource provider create https://review.openstack.org/520313 | 14:11 |
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| dansmith | stephenfin: I'm calling update_available_resource() now after build success or failure.. is there something that might not be set up that would prevent that from working or something? | 14:14 |
| stephenfin | dansmith: Well, reverting that chunk "fixes" things | 14:16 |
| dansmith | the update? | 14:16 |
| stephenfin | aye | 14:16 |
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| stephenfin | at least, locally | 14:17 |
| stephenfin | I've run it a few times and it passed each time with the HEAD~ version of that file | 14:17 |
| dansmith | I see it failing during _delete_server, FWIW, but I wonder if delete just fails because the create left something in a bad state | 14:17 |
| dansmith | stephenfin: so....the update fails because we have a half-created instance with topology that we can't satisfy, yeah? | 14:18 |
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| dansmith | seems like we'd hit this in real life if that's the case, if a periodic ran during a failed schedule or something | 14:18 |
| dansmith | because that update call happens all over the place | 14:18 |
| stephenfin | Like you said, it could be a buggy test too | 14:19 |
| dansmith | well, I'm not really sure where to go from here | 14:19 |
| dansmith | this is kinda like the bug we saw with the DiskNotFound, | 14:20 |
| dansmith | where that error for a single instance will block nova from updating the RT for everything on the host | 14:20 |
| stephenfin | Hmm, now I can't get the tests to _fail_ again | 14:21 |
| dansmith | so maybe we should catch this exception somewhere, log it at error and allow the RT to proceed? | 14:21 |
| mriedem | the functional tests shouldn't need to do their own delete server, unless they are intentionally trying to make sure the server is gone - because the test tearDown will wipe the db | 14:21 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yeah | 14:21 |
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| dansmith | removing that might make the test failure go away, but it feels kinda dirty | 14:22 |
| dansmith | although the test checks that the instance goes active, so.. | 14:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Naichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: xenapi(N-R-P): Add API to support vgpu resource provider create https://review.openstack.org/520313 | 14:23 |
| mriedem | well, the test waits for the server to be != 'BUILD' | 14:24 |
| mriedem | which has always bugged me | 14:24 |
| mriedem | oh update_available_resource_for_node | 14:24 |
| mriedem | oops | 14:24 |
| mriedem | end_status='ACTIVE' i see | 14:24 |
| stephenfin | dansmith: Yeah, I think that's what's happening | 14:25 |
| dansmith | stephenfin: what? | 14:25 |
| mriedem | what is calling update_available_resource_for_node ? | 14:25 |
| dansmith | mriedem: update_available_resource() is, which is what I'm calling from build_success/failure | 14:25 |
| stephenfin | dansmith: you're now calling 'update_available_resource' which iterates through instances to extra their numa_topology | 14:25 |
| stephenfin | and updates utilization based on that | 14:25 |
| dansmith | stephenfin: oh and hitting the incomplete instance or something? | 14:26 |
| stephenfin | yeah, I'd imagine so | 14:26 |
| dansmith | so that's a bug in the actual code then, yeah? | 14:26 |
| mriedem | seems weird that the stacktrace in the test failure doesn't include _build_succeeded | 14:26 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yeah, idk why that is | 14:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Naichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: xenapi(N-R-P):Get vgpu info from `allocations` https://review.openstack.org/521717 | 14:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Naichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: xenapi(N-R-P): support compute node resource provider update https://review.openstack.org/521041 | 14:27 |
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| dansmith | so removing the _delete_server call from that test seems to make it happy, but I think it's still failing to do that update under the covers, we're just not seeing it or whatever | 14:27 |
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| dansmith | yeah, so I get a NUMAServersTest failure now in _delete | 14:29 |
| stephenfin | dansmith: This line is probably getting called multiple times https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/resource_tracker.py#L948-L951 | 14:29 |
| dansmith | that's multiple lines.. do you mean L949? | 14:30 |
| stephenfin | So we're double freeing, kind of. This is starting to feel familiar but I'm not sure why | 14:30 |
| stephenfin | yup | 14:30 |
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| dansmith | okay, but that shouldn't be a problem with repeated calls to update_available_resource()... since it starts fresh when it does that right? | 14:30 |
| stephenfin | Well if compute is thinking the instance is gone, it could be freeing on the first call to that function (the one you added) and then attempting to do so again on our call (the API call to delete) | 14:32 |
| stephenfin | which triggers this, I imagine? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/resource_tracker.py#L1127 | 14:32 |
| dansmith | mriedem: you know, unrelated (kinda) to this test failure, we could just increase the counter and depend on the next periodic run of update_available_resources() to update our counter, | 14:32 |
| dansmith | which means we might be failbait for 60s or whatever you have that timer set to, but then we'll update our stuff and get pulled out | 14:33 |
| dansmith | which would save a bunch of cpu and db updates on each build | 14:33 |
| dansmith | stephenfin: not sure that's how that works.. update_available_resource can run at whatever interval it's set to.. it should be idempotent, generating a fresh view of resources all the time, never having partial side effects or anything like that | 14:34 |
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| stephenfin | dansmith: Right but...dodgy tests. Perhaps that was never triggered before (the interval would be too short) | 14:38 |
| mriedem | dansmith: yeah....also, _update_available_resource is going to take the big COMPUTE_RESOURCE_SEMAPHORE lock | 14:39 |
| mriedem | when all you really wanted to do was update the compute_node.stats field | 14:39 |
| dansmith | stephenfin: well, I don't see how the tests would cause this to be broken.. I think it has to be broken in the code and we just never poke this (and notice) in tests right? | 14:39 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yeah, the more I think about it, that'd be a better approach | 14:39 |
| mriedem | OR | 14:39 |
| dansmith | mriedem: and would remove a ton of unit test noise I had to add | 14:39 |
| mriedem | RT.abort_instance_claim could do the build failure count | 14:40 |
| mriedem | but, if we fail before we get to the instance claim, then that won't count the build failure | 14:40 |
| mriedem | but abort_instance_claim does update the compute node record | 14:41 |
| dansmith | yeah, that runs before where I'm increasing right? | 14:41 |
| mriedem | yes | 14:41 |
| dansmith | that's why Isaid in my comment just now that the next instance failure would update it for us | 14:41 |
| dansmith | which I think is reasonable lazy update behavior to avoid the synchronous update | 14:41 |
| dansmith | plus, 60s by default | 14:41 |
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| mriedem | yeah that makes sense | 14:44 |
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| dansmith | aight, well, that likely removes this from my path, | 14:45 |
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| dansmith | although I still am concerned that something ain't right in that numa accounting path | 14:45 |
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| dansmith | although it will make my testing a little harder to make deterministic | 14:46 |
| dansmith | you know, I had this thing for functional tests that let me trigger periodics reliably that got shot down with fire....... | 14:46 |
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| mriedem | i'll assume i wasn't on the firing end of that | 14:47 |
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| dansmith | nope | 14:49 |
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| efried | melwitt: We got a dashboard or anything for spec reviewing? | 14:53 |
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| stephenfin | efried: I use https://goo.gl/EjSxKw | 14:58 |
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| efried | stephenfin: Thanks! | 14:58 |
| stephenfin | efried: The tail end | 14:59 |
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| efried | is that all the specs we got? That ain't so bad :) | 14:59 |
| stephenfin | It's limited at 20, so no :) | 14:59 |
| stephenfin | there's the full one https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/nova-specs+status:open | 15:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Surya Seetharaman proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Handling a down cell https://review.openstack.org/557369 | 15:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Theodoros Tsioutsias proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add PENDING vm state https://review.openstack.org/554212 | 15:19 |
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| mriedem | this is my specs review dashboard http://tiny.cc/2g1sty | 15:25 |
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| stephenfin | Can someone with +2 for nova-specs put this in? The guy has been refreshing it pretty much continuously since March and it's valid IMO https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551802/ | 15:36 |
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| mdbooth | mriedem: If I've read it correctly, AttachVolumeMultiAttachTest.test_volume_swap_with_multiattach seems to test something which I'd expect us to forbid, because it can't work. | 15:59 |
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| mdbooth | It looks like we attach a volume to 2 servers | 15:59 |
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| mdbooth | Then do a swap volume to a new volume on one of the servers | 16:00 |
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| mdbooth | The problem is, IIUC that's a block migration, and there's no way for the block migration on server 1 to know about writes on server 2 | 16:01 |
| mdbooth | So the resulting data on volume2 attached to server1 is going to be inconsistent, and there's nothing you can do about it in either guest | 16:01 |
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| * mdbooth thought we just forbid swap volumey things on multiattach volumes | 16:02 | |
| mriedem | stephenfin: done | 16:02 |
| mdbooth | forbade? | 16:02 |
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| stephenfin | mriedem: cheers | 16:03 |
| mdbooth | forbode? No, definitely not. Perhaps appropriate, though. | 16:03 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: cinder forbids a retype to/from multiattach capability for an in-use volume | 16:03 |
| mriedem | also on a call atm | 16:03 |
| mriedem | THE call | 16:03 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: np | 16:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova-specs master: Follow the new PTI for document build https://review.openstack.org/551802 | 16:13 |
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| melwitt | efried: yeah, no specific dashboard. just whatever you normally like to use for specs | 16:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Fix bug for hypervisors https://review.openstack.org/572063 | 16:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Fix bug to doc https://review.openstack.org/572268 | 16:36 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: i know i say this every 3 days, but i think stephenfin's numa aware vswitches spec is ready to go https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541290/ | 16:40 |
| efried | We should really have a spec review day so we can merge that thing. | 16:41 |
| dansmith | mriedem: can I skip this one and wait three days until it's ready again? | 16:42 |
| mriedem | no | 16:42 |
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| dansmith | damn | 16:45 |
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| dansmith | I feel like the proof is in the code anyway and I'm out of steam on the spec | 16:48 |
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| dansmith | so, damn the torpedoes | 16:48 |
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| mriedem | yeah i already went through the code series this morning and made notes on the patches about what needs to change | 16:49 |
| mriedem | at a high level | 16:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Change consecutive build failure limit to a weigher https://review.openstack.org/572195 | 18:18 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: melwitt: tssurya: on the handling a down cell spec, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557369/ - i'm thinking that if the user is filtering or paging while listing instances, we need to ignore down cells | 18:55 |
| mriedem | because we can't provide accurate results in that case | 18:55 |
| mriedem | not that we're providing much in the way of results with just a flat 'nova list', but at least it's a dump of all instances (under the default limit) with minimal fields specified | 18:56 |
| dansmith | you mean sorting? | 18:56 |
| melwitt | yeah, either that or do the minimal shell of an instance thing for those in down cells | 18:56 |
| tssurya | mriedem: yes makes sense, | 18:57 |
| mriedem | dansmith: no, filtering | 18:57 |
| dansmith | if they're sorting we can't really show the shells, | 18:57 |
| dansmith | since we don't know what the sort key value is | 18:57 |
| mriedem | sorting kind of goes out the window as well | 18:57 |
| dansmith | same for filtering I guess | 18:57 |
| mriedem | melwitt: the minimal shell is the problem when filtering | 18:57 |
| tssurya | if its the default sorting, I think it uses created_at, | 18:57 |
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| mriedem | if i'm doing 'nova list --status PAUSED', don't show me 4 PAUSED instances and 100 UNKNOWN instances | 18:57 |
| melwitt | oh | 18:57 |
| melwitt | yeah | 18:58 |
| dansmith | right | 18:58 |
| mriedem | if i do: nova list --all-tenants | 18:58 |
| mriedem | then sure, give me the dump | 18:58 |
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| mriedem | tssurya: yes by default we sort by created_at in desc order https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/common.py#L143 | 18:59 |
| mriedem | which we can achieve with the instance mappings records | 18:59 |
| tssurya | mriedem: yes | 18:59 |
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| mriedem | if i'm sorting by status and i have UNKNOWN minimals, then i guess those just get sorted too | 18:59 |
| tssurya | so let's just support simple and plain nova list and if any additional arguments are specified, we give 500 ? | 18:59 |
| tssurya | so that its consistent | 19:00 |
| mriedem | no, i'm saying if there are filter parameters, we do what we can with the cells that respond, but ignore the ones that dont | 19:00 |
| mriedem | i honestly don't know how this is going to be used in all cases, or what's really needed | 19:00 |
| tssurya | right, | 19:01 |
| mriedem | like, does the caller need some indication that there are down cells? if so, would returning a new header help with that? | 19:01 |
| mriedem | but a non-admin user shouldn't know there are down cells | 19:01 |
| dansmith | I think the most important thing is to avoid a 500 when there's a down cell, | 19:01 |
| dansmith | the more info we can return the better, | 19:01 |
| dansmith | but even if we skip everything in a down cell, that's incremental progress, then returning shells when they wouldn't be otherwise filtered out is progress on top of that, etc | 19:02 |
| mriedem | agree, and i think the first part of that could be done as a bug fix and backported | 19:02 |
| dansmith | yep | 19:02 |
| tssurya | users shouldn't know anything about cells, however in order to avoid 500, if like mriedem said about filters, -> i.e to still process output from up cells, it would be inconsistent right ? | 19:03 |
| tssurya | I mean not the right results | 19:03 |
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| mriedem | if i'm a user and i get instances back with just a bunch of UNKNOWN values, i'm goign to know my instance is in a down cell | 19:03 |
| tssurya | yes this is if its plain nova list, | 19:03 |
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| tssurya | if we do this with nova list --status PAUSED then ? | 19:04 |
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| tssurya | like you said above, if we display results only from up cells and ignore down ones, it means we are missing stuff | 19:04 |
| tssurya | we will not be showing any UNKNOWNS there right ? | 19:04 |
| mriedem | i don't know of a better way to say "don't know" w/o just not including those results | 19:04 |
| dansmith | if an instance is in a down cell, its state is UNKNOWN, | 19:05 |
| dansmith | so if you asked for PAUSED, then UNKNOWN is not matching the filter | 19:05 |
| tssurya | okay not status I mean other filters | 19:05 |
| tssurya | like --marker | 19:06 |
| dansmith | if you get a marker to an instance that is in a cell that goes down between pages, then you have to fail | 19:06 |
| tssurya | I guess what I am trying to say is at some point we can't avoid a 500 ? | 19:06 |
| tssurya | okay, yes | 19:06 |
| dansmith | if you know an instance provided as a marker is in a down cell, then a 500 is appropriate | 19:06 |
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| dansmith | that might be the only case though.. are there others you think warrant a 500? | 19:07 |
| mriedem | i don't know if we'd 400 on that today or not | 19:07 |
| mriedem | usually we'd get marker not found and return a 400 | 19:07 |
| dansmith | right, but that would be wrong here | 19:07 |
| dansmith | because we know it exists, we just can't get to it | 19:07 |
| tssurya | --availability-zone, like matt was saying in the spec ? | 19:08 |
| dansmith | that would be similar to 503 Proxy Error | 19:08 |
| dansmith | if you're just filtering by az, then you return shells for the things in there right? | 19:08 |
| mgagne | mriedem: currently trying to deploy queens, ++ for policy deprecation warnings. grrrreatly appreciated. | 19:08 |
| tssurya | dansmith: I honestly don't know at this point | 19:09 |
| mriedem | mgagne: thank johnthetubaguy and gmann for those | 19:09 |
| tssurya | dansmith: I will try to go through all the nova list args and see | 19:10 |
| dansmith | tssurya: I think you probably will just have to consider the appropriate behavior for each | 19:10 |
| mgagne | johnthetubaguy, gmann: I greatly appreciate the work you have done with policy deprecation warnings. it's of great help when upgrading ++ | 19:10 |
| dansmith | for most, shell instances or omission is the best idea I think, | 19:11 |
| mriedem | i assume that filtering on az would be the same as status - we can't know, so ignore those results in a down cell | 19:11 |
| dansmith | 500 for marker | 19:11 |
| tssurya | dansmith: ack, | 19:11 |
| dansmith | mriedem: oh right, duh, I forgot we couldn't know the instances in there | 19:11 |
| dansmith | mriedem: we know hosts and instances in hosts, so we could work it out I guess | 19:11 |
| mriedem | i don't think we know instances in hosts from the api | 19:12 |
| dansmith | er, no | 19:12 |
| dansmith | right | 19:12 |
| dansmith | I was thinking instance->cell->host->az, but that's not fine-grained enough | 19:12 |
| dansmith | obvi | 19:12 |
| tssurya | mriedem: right so we print one shell for the down cell and print the results from the rest | 19:12 |
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| tssurya | this way users can know that the result is not fully right | 19:13 |
| dansmith | hmm? | 19:13 |
| dansmith | one shell per down cell? | 19:13 |
| dansmith | I think you just have to leave out all shells for instances you can't tell are in an az | 19:13 |
| tssurya | dansmith: oh okay | 19:13 |
| tssurya | that wfm as well | 19:13 |
| mriedem | would be helpful if we weren't talking about CLI UX wrt REST API semantics | 19:14 |
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| mriedem | would we ignore down cells if we're paging? let's say i've got 3 cells, A, B and C. my marker is in A, B is down, but C is up, so i get some instances from A, skip B and get the rest of the page from C with a new marker in C? | 19:15 |
| dansmith | if you're doing no sort or filter, you could show B instances too | 19:15 |
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| dansmith | if you are, then you have to skip | 19:15 |
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| mriedem | ok posted some edge case stuff in the spec | 19:17 |
| tssurya | mriedem: thanks, will have a look | 19:17 |
| mriedem | also, i'm annoyed that i feel the need to qualify "edge case" lately as "not computers at the edge of a network, but rare scenarios" | 19:17 |
| dansmith | heh | 19:18 |
| tssurya | so we are going for a new API response ? | 19:18 |
| melwitt | MFIN EDGE | 19:18 |
| mriedem | tssurya: doesn't sound like it | 19:18 |
| tssurya | and since we were on the topic of markers, I have this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1773945 | 19:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1773945 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova client servers.list crashes with bad marker" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Surya Seetharaman (tssurya) | 19:18 |
| tssurya | couldn't figure out what the issue is | 19:18 |
| tssurya | if any of you have ideas | 19:19 |
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| mriedem | i saw something really weird the other day with markers | 19:19 |
| mriedem | with osc | 19:19 |
| mriedem | which uses nova python API bindings | 19:20 |
| tssurya | oh | 19:20 |
| mriedem | i was creating some instances when rabbitmq dropped | 19:20 |
| mriedem | and i think it might have been what takashi said in the bug report, "if the record of the marker VM instance exists in the cell | 19:21 |
| mriedem | but the 'cell_mapping' in the InstanceMapping of the marker VM instance is null (None), | 19:21 |
| mriedem | the issue occurs." | 19:21 |
| tssurya | but this would happen only during schedule time right ? | 19:21 |
| tssurya | I thought takashi was right too at first | 19:22 |
| mriedem | rabbit died during scheduling | 19:22 |
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| tssurya | ah :D | 19:22 |
| mriedem | the weird thing is when i was debugging the CLI, it was passing a marker | 19:22 |
| mriedem | and i don't know where that marker was coming from | 19:22 |
| dansmith | tssurya: is that bug not just that the marker gets deleted during the paging? | 19:22 |
| dansmith | oh, no, we do read_deleted=yes it | 19:23 |
| tssurya | yea | 19:23 |
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| dansmith | so maybe we should check if the marker has a null cell mapping and log that case/ | 19:24 |
| dansmith | either way, not much we can do there | 19:24 |
| tssurya | dansmith: yep I agree, | 19:24 |
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| tssurya | I just never thought there would be case without any BuildRequest and NULL InstanceMapping | 19:24 |
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| dansmith | or, we just scan every cell! (no not really) | 19:25 |
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| tssurya | dansmith: I also wanted to ask another thing about have a new option --cell-name to nova service-list ; how you would feel about this, but we could also do this in tomorrow's cells meeting if you are busy now | 19:27 |
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| dansmith | tssurya: I don't want that, no | 19:27 |
| dansmith | tssurya: put them in an aggregate and have a way to list via aggregate or something | 19:27 |
| tssurya | right I thought so :), just tried my luck :D | 19:28 |
| dansmith | or use nova-manage | 19:28 |
| tssurya | yep, thanks! | 19:28 |
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| dansmith | gdi, why does zuul hate me? | 19:29 |
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| mriedem | tssurya: so this should only be called if the client passes in a marker https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/f902e0d5d87fb05207e4a7aca73d185775d43df2/nova/compute/instance_list.py#L56-L73 | 19:30 |
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| mriedem | which when i ran openstack --debug service list, i saw it was passing a marker, but i wasn't | 19:30 |
| tssurya | mriedem: yes | 19:30 |
| dansmith | oh, it's python3 that hates me | 19:30 |
| mriedem | so is there something in novaclient that always gets a marker? | 19:30 |
| tssurya | oh no, we pass a marker | 19:30 |
| mriedem | we? | 19:31 |
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| tssurya | I mean a marker is passed only if we give it via the CLI | 19:31 |
| tssurya | what you are saying seems strange, but I haven't tested that | 19:31 |
| tssurya | tested/observed | 19:32 |
| melwitt | does getting MarkerNotFound mean that a marker had to have been passed? because the bug reporter was using servers.list() python API and got MarkerNotFound | 19:32 |
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| mriedem | right, and when i was doing openstack server list, i wasn't passing a marker, | 19:32 |
| tssurya | melwitt: that's what I thought so too, | 19:32 |
| mriedem | but i ran it with debug and saw it was doing GET /servers/ with a marker | 19:32 |
| melwitt | that would mean that somewhere in servers.list() novaclient is automatically passing a marker. I guess it would if it were paging on its own | 19:33 |
| mriedem | novaclient does do that | 19:33 |
| mriedem | until it doesn't get any more results | 19:33 |
| melwitt | yeah, that's what I'm referring to, the fact that it does that if the list is > api limit | 19:33 |
| mriedem | i only had 2 instances | 19:33 |
| melwitt | oh | 19:33 |
| mriedem | i think it will happen at any point if you have one of these messed up mappings | 19:34 |
| tssurya | mriedem: hmm yea, true at some point even we have NULL cell_mappings | 19:34 |
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| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/10.2.0/novaclient/v2/servers.py#L863 | 19:34 |
| melwitt | I missed why/how that is normal | 19:34 |
| melwitt | if an instance is in the middle of being scheduled, it shouldn't have an instance_mapping yet | 19:35 |
| tssurya | melwitt: it will have an instance_mapping but with a NULL cell_mapping | 19:36 |
| mriedem | we create the empty instance mapping in the api | 19:36 |
| melwitt | oh, I see. so any instance in the middle of scheduling would have the null marker | 19:36 |
| melwitt | didn't realize that | 19:37 |
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| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/f902e0d5d87fb05207e4a7aca73d185775d43df2/nova/compute/api.py#L913 | 19:37 |
| mriedem | an instance during scheduling will have a build request | 19:37 |
| dansmith | right, and we page those out of BRs not out of the cell anyway | 19:37 |
| mriedem | once we pick a host, we update the instance mapping for the cell and delete the build request | 19:37 |
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| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/f902e0d5d87fb05207e4a7aca73d185775d43df2/nova/conductor/manager.py#L1236-L1239 | 19:37 |
| melwitt | ah, thanks. I can never remember this | 19:38 |
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| tssurya | dansmith: yes which us why I was confused | 19:38 |
| mriedem | i also want to say i remember a novaclient patch recently that changed the default limit/paging behavior when listing instances | 19:38 |
| tssurya | is* | 19:38 |
| mriedem | so maybe someone regressed something | 19:38 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534222/ | 19:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Change consecutive build failure limit to a weigher https://review.openstack.org/572195 | 19:38 |
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| mriedem | i guess i never commented on that, but i don't know why it was needed, | 19:40 |
| mriedem | you can pass limit=-1 for no limit | 19:40 |
| melwitt | yeah, the bug is saying the paging loop was ending prematurely for some reason | 19:40 |
| mriedem | heh, "I'm not sure how this happened but I can't reproduce the problem now. It seems to work as expected with `--limit -1`." | 19:42 |
| mriedem | from the author of the change, in the backport that was -1ed by me https://review.openstack.org/#/c/543968/ | 19:43 |
| melwitt | guh | 19:43 |
| mriedem | so before https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534222/ if you don't specify a limit, we'd get up to max_limit instances (default 1000) and then stop | 19:44 |
| mriedem | now, we get up to max_limit instances, and then query again until we don't get any more results | 19:44 |
| mriedem | which, if the marker for the 2nd query ends up being a busted instance mapping, nova list is perma broken | 19:44 |
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| mriedem | i kind of just want to revert that change... | 19:45 |
| mriedem | if i create 10 instances and set CONF.api.max_limit to 5, and run nova list, i should get 5 instances, and if i run nova list --limit -1, i should get 10 | 19:45 |
| melwitt | the old behavior wouldn't be able to return a non-existent marker? | 19:45 |
| mriedem | if you have a broken instance mapping, we still have a problem on the server side, | 19:46 |
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| mriedem | but with what i was hitting when i hit this over the weekend, i couldn't get around it | 19:46 |
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| mriedem | because the last instance in my list was the busted marker | 19:46 |
| mriedem | and i think i only had 2 instances | 19:46 |
| tssurya | regarding the broken instance_mapping, we could just check if its broken and print a LOG or something | 19:47 |
| mriedem | i don't even think i was able to delete the server w/o getting into the database | 19:47 |
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| mriedem | tssurya: we could....but that will reset your page which is not what the user expects either | 19:48 |
| mriedem | really it should probably be a 500 | 19:48 |
| tssurya | mriedem: hmm, maybe | 19:49 |
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| tssurya | yea since its broken | 19:49 |
| melwitt | mriedem: oh, weird, I thought the default without passing --limit would have been -1 | 19:50 |
| melwitt | (old behavior) | 19:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Revert "Fix listing of instances above API max_limit" https://review.openstack.org/572539 | 19:57 |
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| mgagne | mriedem: am I right in assuming the allocations healer requires cellsv2 ? | 19:59 |
| mriedem | yes | 20:00 |
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| mriedem | it relies on the cell mappings in the api db to find the instances in each cell | 20:01 |
| mgagne | ok, just trying to figure out how I will be able to test without updating the whole planet or doing the actual work ;) | 20:01 |
| mgagne | like, can I just import our prod database and run migrations and then the script for example. | 20:01 |
| mriedem | mgagne: you mean a backup test copy of your prod db? | 20:02 |
| mgagne | (with some "minor" details to be addressed) | 20:02 |
| mriedem | mgagne: what do you have for cell mappings right now? just cell0> | 20:03 |
| mriedem | ? | 20:03 |
| mgagne | kind of. import somewhere, run release db migration to queens. then migrate somehow to cellsv2 (since it's required?) and run the healer with a dummy placement api. | 20:03 |
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| mgagne | nothing, I'm running mitaka. | 20:03 |
| mgagne | trying to find a simpler way to get to queens with prod data | 20:04 |
| mgagne | if cellsv2 is required, I will just find a way to make it happen. | 20:04 |
| mriedem | mgagne: have you read through https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/cells.html#upgrade-with-cells-v1 ? | 20:05 |
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| mriedem | the cell mappings are going to be 1:1 with your child ells | 20:05 |
| mriedem | *cells | 20:05 |
| mriedem | plus cell0 | 20:05 |
| mgagne | kind of but never went through it yet. I will read and see how far I can go. | 20:05 |
| mriedem | you'll have num(child_cell) + 1 cell mappings in the api db | 20:06 |
| mgagne | my main concern is with online data migration and maybe nova-compute exporting resources to placement ? | 20:06 |
| mriedem | nova-compute will start reporting inventory and allocation information to placement in ocata | 20:06 |
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| mriedem | if you're going straight to queens, nova-compute will not be reporting allocation information to placement, the scheduler does that | 20:06 |
| mgagne | right so I need to run the actual service at least once | 20:06 |
| mriedem | in queens, nova-compute will report inventory to placement on startup | 20:07 |
| mriedem | in queens, the allocations will not be automatically posted for existing instances, which is why you need the heal_allocations CLI | 20:07 |
| mriedem | but before you can run that, you need (1) the cell mappings created for each of your cells (2) the instances mapped to the cells | 20:08 |
| mgagne | yes, will create mapping | 20:08 |
| mgagne | my concern is with resources being exported by compute node before. right? | 20:08 |
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| mriedem | i'm not sure what that means | 20:09 |
| mriedem | the cell mappings and placement stuff are unrelated | 20:09 |
| mgagne | I mean, you need providers to be created somehow first? | 20:09 |
| mgagne | I'm not that familiar with placement terminology btw | 20:09 |
| mriedem | yes, you'll need the compute nodes reporting into placement before heal_allocations can run | 20:09 |
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| mriedem | heal allocations will iterate the cell mappings looking for instances that have a host but don't have allocations in placement, and then attempt to post allocations to plcaement for the given instance and compute node - so yeah you need the compute nodes reporting as providers into placement first | 20:10 |
| mgagne | ok, that's what I wanted to understand. got it | 20:10 |
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| mriedem | btw, i think you can still do all of the cells v2 stuff (cell mappings, host mappings, instance mappings) and placement stuff in queens with the caching scheduler still in place - we have an experimental ci job that does that | 20:13 |
| mriedem | well, we have a cells v1 job that does that too | 20:13 |
| mgagne | yea, that's my plan. getting to queens, import database and run the tool and see how it goes | 20:14 |
| mriedem | i think once you get all of the allocations healed, you can drop the caching scheduler and disable cells v1 | 20:14 |
| mriedem | would be ideal if you could even kick the tires with a single child cell test env to get used to this before doing it | 20:15 |
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| mgagne | yea. I guess so. I need to test with Ironic too... but I thought I needed cells v2 ? I'm not sure what you mean by "drop the caching scheduler and disable cells v1" | 20:17 |
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| mriedem | mgagne: the goal is to not using the caching scheduler or cells v1 since both are deprecated | 20:26 |
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| mriedem | you need cells v2 since ocata yes | 20:26 |
| mgagne | right | 20:26 |
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| mriedem | the IronicHostManager is also deprecated since pike | 20:26 |
| mriedem | placement + custom resource classes removes the need for the ironic host manager in the scheduler and the Exact* filters | 20:27 |
| mriedem | but that's another thing you can deal with separately before rocky | 20:27 |
| mriedem | melwitt: this is the last day for https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/granular-placement-policy+status:open in the runway, has all +2s, could use another core to go through it | 20:28 |
| mgagne | right. I'm trying to get in a state where I can test your patch with production data without spending 900 man hours to get there. I think with your help I got enough info to kick start the process. | 20:28 |
| mgagne | 1) Create test environment with Nova Mitaka+CellsV1 2) Import production database 3) Upgrade to Nova Queens, with FFU or whatever process I will find. 4) Migrate to CellsV2 5) Test allocation healer 6) Profit | 20:30 |
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| mriedem | mgagne: yeah, 3 and 4 are going to get fuzzy | 20:33 |
| mgagne | can't wait =) | 20:33 |
| mriedem | there is a blocker migration in ocata that won't let you finish the api db sync until you have cell0 for example | 20:33 |
| mriedem | i just mean, 3 and 4 are kind of co-dependent | 20:34 |
| mgagne | good to know, will add that step | 20:34 |
| mriedem | once you get to ocata+ you can also run the nova-status upgrade check CLI | 20:34 |
| mgagne | ok, so ocata will require some steps for cellsv2 | 20:34 |
| mriedem | to check your progress | 20:34 |
| mriedem | yup | 20:34 |
| mgagne | cool, can't wait to test that tool too | 20:34 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: ack | 20:43 |
| mriedem | i'm +2 on the vmware live migration spec if another specs core wants to put it in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299207/ - i'm ok with holding up the merge of the actual code until the multinode vmware 3rd party ci job shows up | 20:44 |
| melwitt | that reminds me of the zvm spec amendment, still not approved | 20:44 |
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| melwitt | but that's not subject to spec freeze | 20:45 |
| melwitt | I don't think, anyway | 20:45 |
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| mriedem | nova list --limit -1 works like a charm http://paste.openstack.org/show/722757/ | 20:57 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: kinda wonder why that's not the default. I guess so you have to opt into paging | 21:01 |
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| mriedem | frickler: are you happy with this now? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312626/ | 21:07 |
| mriedem | i see you've done quite a bit of review on it already | 21:07 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: idk, for a smaller cloud with <1000 instances it's not going to be a problem, | 21:08 |
| mriedem | for a public cloud the admin probably wants to opt into getting back a million records | 21:08 |
| melwitt | yeah, good point | 21:08 |
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| mriedem | anyway, that patch made around ~400 LOC change for something that wasn't even broken | 21:12 |
| mriedem | no release note on the behavior change either | 21:12 |
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| melwitt | those are the best | 21:13 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: I proposed adding the nova-lvm job to pike (as experimental) and it passed (phew) https://review.openstack.org/572130 | 21:24 |
| melwitt | the ocata one however is busted, but on a cinder problem AFAICT, not the nova regression/fix https://review.openstack.org/572132 | 21:24 |
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| mriedem | ok | 21:29 |
| mriedem | mgagne: a couple of questions for clarification in your spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312626/ | 21:31 |
| melwitt | gah why can I never find the novaclient cli command list reference | 21:31 |
| mriedem | melwitt: i don't think there is one | 21:31 |
| mriedem | you're welcome | 21:31 |
| melwitt | oh, to make people use osc. I see how it is | 21:31 |
| mriedem | https://docs.openstack.org/python-novaclient/pike/cli/index.html | 21:31 |
| mriedem | no, i think just because it never existed | 21:32 |
| melwitt | it existed, unless I dreamed it | 21:32 |
| melwitt | I shall google | 21:32 |
| melwitt | some more | 21:32 |
| mriedem | https://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/cli-reference/nova.html ? | 21:33 |
| melwitt | yeah, that's what I'm thinking of. maybe we didn't import that when things got decentralized | 21:33 |
| mriedem | so it existed in the central docs repo | 21:33 |
| mriedem | yeah must not have | 21:33 |
| melwitt | probably to discourage use of the novaclient CLI | 21:33 |
| mriedem | no, probably just because no one imported the docs | 21:34 |
| mriedem | it was on the projects to do that | 21:34 |
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| mriedem | https://docs.openstack.org/ocata/cli-reference/nova.html | 21:34 |
| mriedem | https://docs.openstack.org/pike/cli-reference/nova.html | 21:34 |
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| melwitt | okay, I thought maybe someone decided it wasn't a great idea because we want to encourage osc use. I could see that point of view | 21:34 |
| melwitt | but, I do know that boot from volume created from image is not possible in osc in one command, still something that needs to be fixed. and there are probably other things people still need novaclient CLI for | 21:35 |
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| mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-novaclient/+bug/1775281 | 21:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1775281 in python-novaclient "nova command line reference is gone since Pike" [Undecided,New] | 21:36 |
| mriedem | there is a bunch of stuff that is in the nova CLI that's not in OSC | 21:36 |
| melwitt | yeah | 21:36 |
| mriedem | so purposefully hiding the nova cli docs would be a dick move | 21:36 |
| mriedem | which i don't think was the case, it was just laziness | 21:36 |
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| melwitt | yeah, I agree that it would be best to host them in our tree | 21:37 |
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| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/blob/before-migration/doc/cli-reference/source/nova.rst | 21:37 |
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| melwitt | thanks for finding that | 21:39 |
| melwitt | and opening the bug | 21:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mathieu Gagné proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Multiple Fixed-IPs support in network information https://review.openstack.org/312626 | 21:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Import nova CLI reference from openstack-manuals https://review.openstack.org/572567 | 21:50 |
| mriedem | melwitt: there you go | 21:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Add a note in the nova CLI reference about using OSC https://review.openstack.org/572569 | 21:54 |
| melwitt | \o/ | 21:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Spike a direct interface to placement https://review.openstack.org/572576 | 22:36 |
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| mriedem | simondodsley_: some comments in your spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340168/ | 22:50 |
| mriedem | mostly just needs to be cleaned up and add some more detail | 22:50 |
| mriedem | otherwise this probably didn't even require a spec | 22:50 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: trying to understand this part about the policy check moving ... where did it used to be? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/565578/10/nova/tests/functional/api/openstack/placement/gabbits/resource-classes.yaml | 22:57 |
| melwitt | with the move, it fails with 406 but doesn't that mean it passes the policy check when it shouldn't? (406 normally comes from further down the API, right?) | 22:58 |
| mriedem | melwitt: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524425/16/nova/api/openstack/placement/handler.py@217 | 22:59 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: the policy check used to happen before we got to the handler code, | 22:59 |
| mriedem | but now the policy check happens in each handler | 22:59 |
| mriedem | and that happens after the content type checks | 23:00 |
| melwitt | I see, thank you | 23:00 |
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| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/565578/10/nova/api/openstack/placement/handlers/resource_class.py@116 | 23:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/ocata: libvirt: handle DiskNotFound during update_available_resource https://review.openstack.org/571432 | 23:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Fix some wrong urls in doc https://review.openstack.org/571147 | 23:01 |
| melwitt | ++ thanks | 23:01 |
| mriedem | once you get past that, the rest of these are all pretty mechanical | 23:02 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524425/ was the majority of the meat of the series | 23:02 |
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| melwitt | sweet | 23:04 |
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| cdent | mriedem: you might be interested in some of my comments in the commit message on https://review.openstack.org/572576 which is the way it is in part because of easy way to manage context and policy | 23:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova-specs master: WIP: Spec: Handling Reshaped Provider Trees https://review.openstack.org/572583 | 23:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: [placement] Do not import oslo_service for log_options https://review.openstack.org/572231 | 23:21 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: why does https://review.openstack.org/570621 need to use scope types whereas the others don't? | 23:23 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: it was the first place that it was obvious in the series; there was some discussion about it in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524425/16 | 23:25 |
| mriedem | so after that i did it for the rest and then filled the gap at the end | 23:25 |
| mriedem | cdent: ack | 23:25 |
| melwitt | I see, okay | 23:25 |
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| gmann | mgagne: glad to know that :) thanks | 23:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-novaclient master: Import nova CLI reference from openstack-manuals https://review.openstack.org/572567 | 23:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Optional separate database for placement API https://review.openstack.org/362766 | 23:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Isolate placement database config https://review.openstack.org/541435 | 23:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Ensure that os-traits sync is attempted only at start of process https://review.openstack.org/553857 | 23:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-novaclient master: Add a note in the nova CLI reference about using OSC https://review.openstack.org/572569 | 23:58 |
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