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| openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move the idmapshift binary into privsep. https://review.openstack.org/495541 | 07:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move loopback setup and removal to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/495664 | 07:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move nbd commands to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/500351 | 07:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move kpartx calls to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/500354 | 07:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move blkid calls to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/500398 | 07:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/nova master: Add Neutron port capabilities to devspec in request https://review.openstack.org/451777 | 08:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/nova master: Format NIC features using os-traits definitions https://review.openstack.org/466051 | 08:41 |
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| bauzas | jianghuaw: around ? | 08:47 |
| bauzas | jianghuaw: I'm about to write a change for adding the new conf opt | 08:47 |
| jianghuaw | hi bauzas | 08:47 |
| bauzas | jianghuaw: did you already uploaded this ? | 08:47 |
| jianghuaw | which new conf opt? | 08:47 |
| bauzas | jianghuaw: enabled_vgpu_types | 08:47 |
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| jianghuaw | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512580/ | 08:48 |
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| jianghuaw | bauzas, naichuan is working on it. | 08:48 |
| jianghuaw | it will be appreciated if you can help to review it. | 08:48 |
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| bauzas | jianghuaw: honestly, I'll even upload a new patchset | 08:51 |
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| bauzas | jianghuaw: because I disagree with using a separate group | 08:51 |
| jianghuaw | What's your preference? | 08:51 |
| jianghuaw | using a single option in [Default]? | 08:51 |
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| bauzas | jianghuaw: no, we have a [compute] section | 08:53 |
| bauzas | jianghuaw: lemme upload my change | 08:53 |
| jianghuaw | Ah, I see. I also agree with to put that in [compute]. | 08:54 |
| jianghuaw | yes, go ahead to upload your change. | 08:54 |
| jianghuaw | thanks. | 08:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: Add create inventories doc for placement https://review.openstack.org/512215 | 08:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: [Placement] Add create inventories doc for placement https://review.openstack.org/512215 | 08:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: [placement]Enhance doc for placement allocation list https://review.openstack.org/511715 | 09:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: Add quiesce and unquiesce in support matrix https://review.openstack.org/482390 | 09:02 |
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| Dinesh_Bhor | bauzas: Hi, do you know when 'Chris Friesen' will be available for discussion on IRC. I want to discuss this spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512990/ | 09:07 |
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| bauzas | Dinesh_Bhor: he's located in Alberta, Canada AFAIK, so I guess a late US TZ (probably UTC-6) | 09:08 |
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| bauzas | MST or something | 09:08 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | bauzas: ohh, okay. I will try to catch him. If possible could you please give your feedback for the same spec? | 09:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: VGPU_support: add enabled white list https://review.openstack.org/512580 | 09:12 |
| bauzas | jianghuaw: ^ | 09:12 |
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| jianghuaw | bauzas, cool. | 09:13 |
| bauzas | Dinesh_Bhor: well, we can surely discuss on the spec for sure, but I guess you probably don't know we're past Spec Approval deadline :( | 09:14 |
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| Dinesh_Bhor | bauzas: okay, thank you for information | 09:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: VGPU: Define vgpu resource class https://review.openstack.org/511180 | 10:27 |
| bauzas | jianghuaw: I just ordered the changes ^ | 10:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: VGPU: Define vgpu resource class https://review.openstack.org/511180 | 10:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: VGPU_support: add enabled white list https://review.openstack.org/512580 | 10:28 |
| jianghuaw | bauzas, saw it:-) Thanks. | 10:29 |
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| efried | bauzas jianghuaw - can we talk about the appropriate conf section for this VGPU opt? | 11:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Add test so we remember why CUSTOM_ prefix added https://review.openstack.org/513001 | 11:38 |
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| bauzas | efried: sure, I just want to avoid a nitpick here :) | 11:42 |
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| * bauzas was at lunch but I'm done now | 11:42 | |
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| efried | bauzas I'm just thinking we'll potentially end up with any number of these device/virtual-device options, and it would make sense to have a separate [device] section rather than lumping them in [compute]. | 11:43 |
| efried | bauzas Conceptually, [device] is a slightly more generic superset of what [pci] does today. | 11:43 |
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| bauzas | efried: probably a good idea, but IMHO in a later change | 11:44 |
| efried | bauzas Whyzat? Then we have to do a deprecation and stuff. | 11:44 |
| bauzas | efried: oh, you meant for VGPUs ? | 11:45 |
| efried | yes | 11:45 |
| bauzas | efried: well, I'm not opposed but I would like to make sure someone does that for PCI too | 11:45 |
| bauzas | efried: let's provide your thoughts in the series, and see if we have a consensus here | 11:46 |
| efried | bauzas Yes, long term everything from [pci] should move to [devices]. I suppose we could put this VGPU stuff into [pci] for now - but I don't see any reason not to start as we mean to go on. | 11:46 |
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| bauzas | efried: please, no | 11:46 |
| efried | bauzas I did leave comments on the change you just uploaded, at PS9 | 11:46 |
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| bauzas | efried: I mean, PCI != vGPUs | 11:46 |
| bauzas | don't open the wounds :p | 11:46 |
| efried | Totally | 11:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/pike: Account for compute.metrics.update in legacy notification whitelist https://review.openstack.org/509439 | 11:46 |
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| bauzas | honestly, I don't really where it lands, I just want to make sure people agree on it | 11:47 |
| bauzas | really *care | 11:47 |
| bauzas | meh | 11:47 |
| efried | bauzas Yeah, I'd like Jay to weigh in on this. | 11:47 |
| bauzas | also, I did made a compromise, I had to add that option before we're going to use it | 11:48 |
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| efried | saw that. | 11:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Add alternate hosts https://review.openstack.org/486215 | 11:48 |
| efried | Not sure why | 11:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/pike: Add functional migrate force_complete test https://review.openstack.org/509924 | 11:48 |
| efried | but don't see any reason to object | 11:48 |
| bauzas | I thought oslo.config was somehow having an "experimental" or "next" attribute for the opt, but no | 11:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/pike: Add functional for live migrate delete https://review.openstack.org/509925 | 11:48 |
| bauzas | efried: because libvirt and xen will both use it | 11:48 |
| bauzas | of course we could just have it in one set | 11:49 |
| bauzas | and wait the set to be merged | 11:49 |
| bauzas | but that could take much longer | 11:49 |
| efried | bauzas Naw, you can just base both of those changes on this one. | 11:49 |
| bauzas | efried: that's correct, hence my commit msgh | 11:49 |
| bauzas | anyway | 11:49 |
| bauzas | let's wait for reviews | 11:50 |
| bauzas | I'm just writing the yippikay libvirt side | 11:50 |
| efried | There's nothing stopping you from having branches in a series. | 11:50 |
| efried | My ksa-adapter series has several | 11:50 |
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| efried | :) | 11:50 |
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| efried | bauzas Okay, left review. Thanks for the talk. | 11:54 |
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| efried | johnthetubaguy yt? | 12:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/pike: Remove dest node allocations during live migration rollback https://review.openstack.org/509926 | 12:49 |
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| cdent | efried: did you resolve your resources= thing satisfactorily? | 12:57 |
| efried | cdent Sorry, which resources= thing was that? | 12:58 |
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| cdent | [t 2wmI] | 12:58 |
| purplerbot | <efried> Anyone know if we're supposed to handle queryparams with multiple values in the placement API? [2017-10-23 20:04:11.392701] [n 2wmI] | 12:58 |
| efried | cdent Oh, whether you could specify a key multiple times in a querystring? | 12:58 |
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| efried | Yeah, the answer was "no", but edleafe thought you would remember why it was decided that way. | 12:58 |
| cdent | the defacto standards with query params is that multiple of the same param should work, but it is not something we really do in nova | 12:58 |
| mriedem | only for sort key/dir i think | 12:59 |
| efried | cdent Well, at least for GET /allocation_candidates and GET /resource_providers?resources= it doesn't work. | 12:59 |
| efried | You'll only get the last one. | 12:59 |
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| cdent | yes, that’s a) intentional b) because of the way it is coded c) a fairly arbitrary choice | 13:00 |
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| efried | Okay, wfm | 13:01 |
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| cdent | the confusion being avoided is whether a list is created by commas or multiple params, and since most people didn’t feel comfy with multiple params, commas was chosen, exclusively | 13:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Remove duplicate error info https://review.openstack.org/510719 | 13:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/osc-placement master: CLI for inventories https://review.openstack.org/457533 | 13:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/osc-placement master: CLI for allocations https://review.openstack.org/457534 | 13:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/osc-placement master: CLI for usages https://review.openstack.org/457535 | 13:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/osc-placement master: CLI for aggregates (v1.1) https://review.openstack.org/505643 | 13:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/osc-placement master: CLI for resource classes (v1.2) https://review.openstack.org/511182 | 13:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/osc-placement master: RP list: member_of and resources parameters (v1.3, v1.4) https://review.openstack.org/511183 | 13:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/osc-placement master: [WIP] RP delete inventories (v1.5) https://review.openstack.org/514642 | 13:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/osc-placement master: [WIP] CLI for traits (v1.6) https://review.openstack.org/514643 | 13:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/osc-placement master: [WIP] Resource class set (v1.7) https://review.openstack.org/514644 | 13:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/osc-placement master: [WIP] Allocations set: add project_id and user_id (v1.8) https://review.openstack.org/514645 | 13:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/osc-placement master: [WIP] Usages per project and user (v1.9) https://review.openstack.org/514646 | 13:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/osc-placement master: [WIP] CLI allocation candidates (v1.10) https://review.openstack.org/514647 | 13:02 |
| openstackgerrit | priyaduggirala proposed openstack/nova master: Rename parameters in call() of nova/image/glance.py https://review.openstack.org/508533 | 13:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Add _get_provider_ids_with_any_resource method https://review.openstack.org/514197 | 13:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Add _get_traits_by_rp_ids method https://review.openstack.org/511184 | 13:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Add ProviderSummaryList object https://review.openstack.org/514198 | 13:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Add more caches for the ProviderSummary https://review.openstack.org/514199 | 13:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Add AggregatedProviderSummary and AggregatedProviderSummaryList objects https://review.openstack.org/514200 | 13:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: placement: rewrite AllocationCandidates.get_by_filters https://review.openstack.org/479766 | 13:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Enable _get_usages_by_provider_and_rc not filter on the resource class id https://review.openstack.org/514649 | 13:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Add has_resources method to the AggregatedProviderSummary object https://review.openstack.org/514650 | 13:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Add as_allocation_request_obj method to AggregatedProvierSummary obj https://review.openstack.org/514651 | 13:04 |
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| mriedem | sdague: at the ptg you said you were good with getting this az name schema fix into stable https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I9b0d8e8d4b3ab2cb3d578c22fa259e0e7c0d325b | 13:11 |
| belmoreira | dansmith: mriedem: I'm looking on how to have placement with cellsV1. Need some guidance. | 13:12 |
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| belmoreira | My understanding is that I will need to have a separated placement service + nova_api DB + keystone for each child cell. Is this correct? | 13:15 |
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| mriedem | belmoreira: i've always thought of placement as global to nova, but it's only used by the "cell" filter scheduler i guess, so it might make sense to only be per-child cell with cells v1 | 13:22 |
| mriedem | the global api parent cell scheduler won't rely on placement | 13:22 |
| mriedem | belmoreira: i don't know about keystone being per child cell | 13:23 |
| mriedem | is that what you already do today? | 13:23 |
| mriedem | nova_api db should be global | 13:23 |
| mriedem | since build requests are created in the api cell | 13:24 |
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| mriedem | belmoreira: which release are you targeting here? | 13:24 |
| belmoreira | mriedem: let me clarify | 13:24 |
| belmoreira | I'm running nova newton release. We have one nova_api DB (requirement in newton) that is global | 13:25 |
| belmoreira | when upgraded I didn't enable placement but it's a requirement before moving to Ocata/Pike | 13:26 |
| mriedem | belmoreira: yeah so in ocata, the only things that talk to placement are nova-scheduler in the cell and nova-compute | 13:27 |
| bauzas | we always thought placement as being global, like we also said for the scheduler | 13:27 |
| mriedem | so placement could be deployed per-cell, but if you can, it's probably smart to deploy it globally to make the transition easier to cells v2 | 13:27 |
| belmoreira | because nova-scheduler is per cell in cellsV1 do I need a placement per cell? | 13:28 |
| mriedem | bauzas: with cells v1 there are 2 levels of scheduling | 13:28 |
| bauzas | mriedem: if placement would be per cell, that would mean 2 layer of scheduling, which I disagree | 13:28 |
| bauzas | mriedem: yup I know and I don't like it :) | 13:28 |
| mriedem | there already is | 13:28 |
| mriedem | like i said, if you deploy placement globally, i think it'll be easier in the long-run | 13:28 |
| mriedem | to transition to cells v2 | 13:28 |
| belmoreira | I was always thinking in the placement as global... but I'm not seeing how to make it work with cellsV1 | 13:28 |
| bauzas | mriedem: but the consensus we had long in the past with alaski and dansmith was that 2 scheduling layers was a terrible idea | 13:29 |
| mriedem | b/c with cells v2 there is only 1 scheduler | 13:29 |
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| dansmith | belmoreira: why can't you point all the child cells at the global api? | 13:29 |
| mriedem | belmoreira: just think of it like any other global service | 13:29 |
| dansmith | er, global placement api | 13:29 |
| bauzas | so, AFAIR, we discussed about just having a CellFilter | 13:29 |
| bauzas | which would filter per cell or somehow like that | 13:29 |
| dansmith | bauzas: what does that have to do with what belmoreira is asking? | 13:30 |
| bauzas | maybe I misunderstood | 13:30 |
| belmoreira | if I point them to the global placement doesn't it means that I do the transition to cellV2 in Ocata? | 13:30 |
| dansmith | belmoreira: no | 13:30 |
| belmoreira | because then I need to do all the node/cells mappings | 13:30 |
| dansmith | oh | 13:30 |
| dansmith | hmm | 13:31 |
| bauzas | wait | 13:31 |
| mriedem | no | 13:31 |
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| mriedem | placement doesn't know anything about host mappings | 13:31 |
| bauzas | for step #1 Ocata, a single cellv2 with multiple cellsv1 could work, right? | 13:31 |
| dansmith | mriedem: but with claims in pike it'll mess him up | 13:31 |
| mriedem | dansmith: he's moving to ocata | 13:31 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I know | 13:31 |
| dansmith | mriedem: but if he builds all this data in ocata, he'll be forced to move to v2 in pike immediately | 13:31 |
| mriedem | well, cells v2 is required in ocata too | 13:32 |
| mriedem | we have a blocker migration for that in the api db | 13:32 |
| belmoreira | dansmith I'm fine moving to cellsV2 in pike | 13:32 |
| dansmith | mriedem: for v2 setup yeah, | 13:32 |
| dansmith | but the thing that global placement will affect for him is the scheduling in pike | 13:32 |
| dansmith | otherwise it's just accounting in newton-ocata, and should be fine to be global | 13:33 |
| dansmith | if he's going to switch in pike, then that should be okay | 13:33 |
| mriedem | because scheduler in cell1 could pick a compute node in cell2? | 13:33 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: wait | 13:33 |
| dansmith | wait, ocata did placement-based selection actually didn't it? | 13:33 |
| dansmith | just no claims | 13:33 |
| mriedem | correct | 13:33 |
| dansmith | right, damn, I forgot about that | 13:33 |
| bauzas | dansmith: if he still runs cells-scheduler (v1), he will end up in a nova_api service which is a single cell | 13:33 |
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| mriedem | belmoreira: you're using the FilterScheduler in the child cells right? | 13:33 |
| belmoreira | mriedem: yes | 13:34 |
| bauzas | dansmith: so, maybe I see where he's going, multiple placement APIs, each of them per cellv1 ? | 13:34 |
| dansmith | bauzas: right | 13:34 |
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| belmoreira | bauzas: That's my point | 13:34 |
| bauzas | that would be the easiest I feel | 13:34 |
| dansmith | so if he has a global placement, ocata scheduler will get back hosts from all cells, and then try to do a ComputeNode lookup of those in the cell and only find some of them | 13:35 |
| bauzas | sure, that won't work, hence placement per cell | 13:35 |
| bauzas | sorry about the original confusion | 13:35 |
| mriedem | it will work, | 13:35 |
| mriedem | because as dan just said, | 13:35 |
| dansmith | it'll be massively inefficient though | 13:35 |
| mriedem | the db is only going to return compute nodes with uuids in some list | 13:35 |
| bauzas | ah yeah correct, we lookup per cell | 13:36 |
| dansmith | belmoreira: what is your preference? would you rather some inefficiencies for a while to keep a global placement so you can easily switch, | 13:36 |
| dansmith | or would you prefer separate placements and avoid committing right away, | 13:37 |
| dansmith | then merge those data sets later with some downtime? | 13:37 |
| belmoreira | dansmith: yes that is my preference | 13:38 |
| dansmith | belmoreira: which? :) | 13:38 |
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| belmoreira | sorry "would you prefer separate placements and avoid committing right away" :) | 13:38 |
| mriedem | also note that the filter scheduler in ocata won't use placement until all of the computes are upgraded to ocata https://docs.openstack.org/nova/pike/user/placement.html#ocata-15-0-0 | 13:38 |
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| dansmith | belmoreira: okay, so that should work | 13:39 |
| mriedem | heh, see the last bullet there ^ | 13:39 |
| mriedem | "Users of CellsV1 will need to deploy a placement per cell, matching the scope and cardinality of the regular nova-scheduler process." | 13:39 |
| mriedem | apparently we already thought about this | 13:39 |
| dansmith | yeah, I think I wrote that, | 13:39 |
| dansmith | assuming they would | 13:39 |
| belmoreira | my plan is to have a placement per cell which will require a nova_api + keystone per cell | 13:40 |
| mriedem | why keystone? | 13:40 |
| mriedem | nova_api i understand now because that has the placement schema in it | 13:40 |
| dansmith | oh, is it because of catalog lookups of placement? | 13:40 |
| belmoreira | because we only have auth_url and then is the endpoint discovery | 13:41 |
| belmoreira | can I do this in a different way? | 13:41 |
| mriedem | belmoreira: is cinder per-cell? | 13:41 |
| mriedem | or global? | 13:41 |
| dansmith | is there some way in keystone to override the endpoints that a user sees? | 13:41 |
| belmoreira | cinder is global | 13:41 |
| mriedem | or is cinder per cell but you use the endpoint_override option? | 13:41 |
| mriedem | oh | 13:41 |
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| belmoreira | all the services that we have are global | 13:42 |
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| dansmith | belmoreira: I would check with keystone people to see if there's a way you can avoid having to deploy a new keystone everywhere | 13:42 |
| belmoreira | dansmith: good point... maybe I can do something with endpoint filtering | 13:42 |
| dansmith | also, you could do some DNS hackery to make the same url be "different" for each cell | 13:43 |
| dansmith | if keystone can't help | 13:43 |
| mriedem | could you do a placement endpoint per region and make a region per cell? | 13:43 |
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| mriedem | but just for the placement service | 13:44 |
| belmoreira | mriedem: I see your point. That may work. thanks | 13:45 |
| mriedem | so everything talks to cinder/neutron/glance on RegionOne, | 13:45 |
| mriedem | and nova-compute in cell1 talks to PlacementRegionCell1 or something | 13:45 |
| dansmith | yeah | 13:46 |
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| belmoreira | mriedem: makes sense. That may be the easiest solution. thanks | 13:46 |
| dansmith | belmoreira: basically we're saying, we hope you don't have to deploy more keystone ;P | 13:46 |
| belmoreira | :) | 13:46 |
| sdague | mriedem: yeh, let me figure out why the tests aren't passing | 13:46 |
| mriedem | sdague: one was cellsv1 random failure as usual, | 13:46 |
| mriedem | other was zuulv3 reno job | 13:47 |
| mriedem | but logs are gone | 13:47 |
| mriedem | belmoreira: and i hope you're taking notes so you can post a blog on all of this when it's done | 13:47 |
| mriedem | that would be awesome | 13:47 |
| sdague | mriedem: ok, I just rechecked on pike, once that is in, I'll approve ocata, just don't want them to go in in the wrong order | 13:47 |
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| mriedem | yup, thanks | 13:48 |
| belmoreira | yeah. are you aware of any cellV1 to V2 migration already? | 13:48 |
| mriedem | belmoreira: i haven't heard of any | 13:48 |
| mriedem | spamaps at godaddy said they were talking about just standing up a new pike cells v2 deployment | 13:48 |
| mriedem | rather than migrate | 13:48 |
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| belmoreira | lucky ones | 13:49 |
| dansmith | not sure that's because migration is hard so much as a chance to start fresh? | 13:49 |
| mriedem | he mentioned while talking about their normal upgrade pain of carrying patches forward | 13:49 |
| mriedem | so it could just be a chance to start fresh yeah | 13:49 |
| sdague | stephenfin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/495541 would land another 3 privsep patches | 13:49 |
| mriedem | i haven't heard from nectar | 13:50 |
| mriedem | but never really do | 13:50 |
| mriedem | mgagne: you're cellsv1 aren't you? | 13:50 |
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| belmoreira | also, in newton there's the placement_database group in the configuration. And it's advised to use it. I don't see any reference of it now in master | 13:51 |
| stephenfin | sdague: done and done | 13:51 |
| mriedem | belmoreira: that's a mistake, don't use that | 13:51 |
| mriedem | i thought we cleaned that all out actually | 13:52 |
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| mriedem | ah we didn't revert that from newton https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/1b5f9f8203c90fe447d33c89f238104026052d1e | 13:52 |
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| stephenfin | sdague: Regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/500354/, any reason you think we were using 'discard_warnings' before? | 13:52 |
| stephenfin | i.e. what's the chances we'd regress on something by dropping it | 13:53 |
| mriedem | newton isn't eol yet, i could still revert that before eol... | 13:53 |
| mriedem | yeah we removed in ocata https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442762/ | 13:54 |
| belmoreira | mriedem: ok | 13:54 |
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| mriedem | this was the revert https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360638/ | 13:55 |
| mriedem | ah yeah so the revert removed the reno and code, but missed the config options, | 13:55 |
| mriedem | which is what my change removed | 13:56 |
| mriedem | so we should consider backporting that too newton also before the eol | 13:56 |
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| stephenfin | dansmith: Got a sec to discuss https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509107/ ? | 13:57 |
| belmoreira | thanks for all the suggestions | 13:57 |
| belmoreira | after moving to Ocata with this configuration (means that I still keep cellsV1 schedule behaviour) then for Pike the plan is to remove all these placements and move the existing cellsV1 to cellsV2 (point everything to the global nova_api and do the mappings) | 13:58 |
| dansmith | stephenfin: yup | 13:58 |
| stephenfin | I was the one that actually told ralonsoh to drop the versioning code in a dependent patch because I didn't think it was necessary | 13:58 |
| belmoreira | is there any know blocker that I'm missing or this should work then? | 13:58 |
| dansmith | belmoreira: cool | 13:58 |
| stephenfin | as we don't store that in a database nor do we send it between services | 13:58 |
| mriedem | tonyb: what's the status on newton eol? because i think i've got another worthwhile change for newton before eol | 13:58 |
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| mriedem | belmoreira: honestly we probably won't know much about cellsv1 issues here as none of us are running it | 13:59 |
| dansmith | stephenfin: if we register it then we really shouldn't be breaking the rules because if someone were to send us a 1.0 version of that we couldn't even deserialize it | 13:59 |
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| dansmith | stephenfin: if we feel it's overly onerous to break the rules, then we might as well not even bump the version because we *can't* honor the old one | 13:59 |
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| dansmith | overly onerous to *not* break the rules Imean | 13:59 |
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| stephenfin | dansmith: Yeah, that makes sense. I guess we might want to revert part of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508498/ too, in that case | 14:01 |
| belmoreira | mriedem: dansmith: ok. thanks, I will go through these steps and I will let you know this goes | 14:01 |
| stephenfin | (that's the one where I said not to do this versioning against ralonsoh's better instincts :)) | 14:01 |
| dansmith | stephenfin: eesh | 14:02 |
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| dansmith | stephenfin: well, it's done now, so maybe just reset the versions to 1.0, admit fault, and try to be clean going forward | 14:03 |
| dansmith | reverting an unsupportable object version isn't particularly helpful either | 14:03 |
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| dansmith | we clearly need a little more oversight on those objects I think | 14:03 |
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| dansmith | if we start taking those over the REST API we have to be even more squeaky clean than we are with our RPC APIs, since we don't control all the sending and receiving code together | 14:04 |
| stephenfin | dansmith: For my own clarification, do you need to register objects if you do not want to send them over the wire? | 14:05 |
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| dansmith | stephenfin: you need to register them in order to receive them through the automatic deserializer, so it knows where to find an object implementation to use to deserialize a primitive | 14:06 |
| sahid | dansmith: we are goin gto start that at a particular version, right? i'm interested to know what is the "someone" who is going to send a version 1.0? | 14:06 |
| dansmith | stephenfin: if you don't need to do that, you still need to build the object, but not register it | 14:06 |
| dansmith | sahid: I understand that there is no code that should be sending the object at the earlier version with that field set right now. That doesn't mean we just make tons of random changes with versions we can't support until some arbitrary point at which we say things are now stable. That version history will confuse people and provide counterexamples they may copy. | 14:07 |
| stephenfin | dansmith: Hmm, to the best of my knowledge these are used only by nova rn, so we're not sending these over RPC nor the REST API. Therefore deserialization is not yet necessary | 14:07 |
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| stephenfin | Yeah, we should either be treating these as versioned objects or not doing so | 14:08 |
| dansmith | stephenfin: yeah, so, if that's the case, we should be not registering them (which won't track their hashes) and leave them at 1.0 instead of recording unsupportable versioned changes | 14:08 |
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| dansmith | stephenfin: the problem is, | 14:08 |
| dansmith | stephenfin: this is a library that anything could be picking up and using at any point, | 14:08 |
| dansmith | so if you don't register/version them properly, then nobody can do that until you do | 14:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/newton: Remove unused placement_database config options https://review.openstack.org/514685 | 14:09 |
| dansmith | so maybe that means until release 2.0 of the library it's not usable across projects, which is okay I guess, | 14:09 |
| mriedem | dansmith: sdague: johnthetubaguy: belmoreira: tonyb: ^ i think we should get that into newton before eol | 14:09 |
| sahid | dansmith: we also have moved like that in os-vif, i'm not sure how that is going to confuse people. | 14:09 |
| dansmith | but it's another weird thing you'd want to communicate to your users | 14:09 |
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| sahid | s/also/always | 14:09 |
| dansmith | sahid: you have always had broken versioning? are you really arguing that "consistently broken" is less confusing or better? :) | 14:10 |
| stephenfin | dansmith: So ultimately, it sounds like the easiest thing to do would be to introduce the changes I had ralonsoh drop from PS2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508498/2..4/os_vif/objects/subnet.py | 14:11 |
| sahid | dansmith: well it's your point of view | 14:11 |
| dansmith | library interfaces should be stable. library interfaces that exist to provide cross-service communication primitives should be .... *really* stable :) | 14:11 |
| sahid | not sure i do understand what you try to say, we change a field so we bump the version, that seem simple | 14:12 |
| stephenfin | +1 Consider it a point learned :) I'll go add those missing versioning functions and hope no one's deploying os-vif from master, heh | 14:12 |
| dansmith | sahid: because just recording a version does not do anything if you can't support the old one | 14:12 |
| dansmith | sahid: it's not a commit log, it serves an actual purpose, unless you break the rules and then it does nothing but communicates to people something you can't do | 14:13 |
| ralonsoh | stephenfin: should I add a make_compatible in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508498? | 14:13 |
| sahid | it's just to keep history as a chnagelog is doing | 14:13 |
| ralonsoh | stephenfin: and in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509107/? | 14:13 |
| dansmith | sahid: it is not | 14:13 |
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| sahid | okay okay you win, i'm not going to arguing all the day for something so minor :) | 14:14 |
| sahid | please do what you prefer | 14:14 |
| stephenfin | ralonsoh: Yes please, and sorry for sending you the wrong direction :( | 14:14 |
| ralonsoh | stephenfin: no problem at all | 14:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Parse numbered & unnumbered resources & traits https://review.openstack.org/514091 | 14:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Numbered groupings to GET /allocation_candidates https://review.openstack.org/514092 | 14:16 |
| mriedem | sahid: breaking version compatibility isn't really a minor thing | 14:16 |
| mriedem | it also affects whether or not you can backport patches | 14:17 |
| sahid | mriedem: it was not the case | 14:17 |
| dansmith | especially for a library to provide cross-service communication primitives | 14:17 |
| sahid | os-vif is not shared by services as you and dansmith seem to think on the review | 14:18 |
| dansmith | that is the *purpose* of the library | 14:18 |
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| dansmith | just because I can hammer this square peg into this round hole doesn't mean it's a good idea | 14:18 |
| sahid | it's you point of view and i do not share it, but no worries we don't have to be always agreed :) | 14:19 |
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| dansmith | you don't agree that os-vif is supposed to be shared between services? | 14:19 |
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| dansmith | from the os-vif page: "Integration library between network (Neutron) and compute (Nova) providers" | 14:20 |
| dansmith | that's the intent | 14:20 |
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| mriedem | sahid: is your argument / justification that since nova and neutron are not yet doing vif negotation using os-vif objects, it's not something we have to worry about? | 14:21 |
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| sahid | mriedem: the field has been updated, incrementing the version seem to be a good practice | 14:23 |
| sahid | that is not going to break anything | 14:23 |
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| mriedem | it would break me if i were using version < 1.2 of that object and had the dhcp_server field set | 14:24 |
| mriedem | and moved to >= 1.2 where dhcp_server no longer exists | 14:24 |
| sahid | no, that can't happen | 14:24 |
| mriedem | probably more clear to say, i have 1.2 with dhcp_servers set, and downgrade to 1.1 | 14:24 |
| mriedem | there is no compatibility routine for converting dhcp_servers to dhcp_server | 14:25 |
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| sahid | but again, os-vif is not shared between service, you seem to forgot that point | 14:25 |
| mriedem | sahid: can you clarify that point per my question above? | 14:25 |
| mriedem | do you mean it's not shared because we haven't yet implemented the vif negotiation code between nova and neutron? | 14:26 |
| mriedem | you realize that's the intent and goal with the library though right? | 14:26 |
| sahid | mriedem: yes and it's probably why i do think incrementing the version seems to be a good pratice | 14:27 |
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| mriedem | so wouldn't good practice actually be treating this like it was being shared across services already and follow the rules? | 14:29 |
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| mriedem | rather than saying, "at version 1.4 we actually started caring" | 14:30 |
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| sahid | mriedem: i would say no, we don't want to add code and maintain code which is not necessary, i do prefer say that we start caring at version 1.4 | 14:31 |
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| sahid | seems to be a reasonable and usual way to use versioning | 14:33 |
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| cdent | mdbooth, or anyone else. I have a vague memory of a bug wherein a moved server could have an image removed out from under it because of a bug in cache handling. related to auto resize confirm. any recollections or clues to where to find such a thing? | 14:43 |
| mdbooth | Yep | 14:44 |
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| mdbooth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462521/ | 14:44 |
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| cdent | mdbooth: thank you! | 14:45 |
| mdbooth | cdent: The 'fix' is really a workaround | 14:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Accept InternalError through the API https://review.openstack.org/514702 | 14:45 |
| cdent | mdbooth: as is so often the case | 14:46 |
| mdbooth | Because it turns out our datamodel doesn't currently allow us to easily identify when an image in the local image cache is still in use by the destination host of a migration | 14:46 |
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| mdbooth | Fixing the datamodel would be better, but this is also good on its own merits, I think | 14:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | sean mooney proposed openstack/os-traits master: add plathform security namespaces https://review.openstack.org/514712 | 15:15 |
| openstackgerrit | sean mooney proposed openstack/os-traits master: add firmware (fw) traits namespace https://review.openstack.org/514713 | 15:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/pike: fix nova accepting invalid availability zone name with ':' https://review.openstack.org/509656 | 15:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Move the idmapshift binary into privsep. https://review.openstack.org/495541 | 15:31 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: mriedem: do you know if jay is around by those days or just off ? | 15:41 |
| bauzas | I'm just implementing the VGPU series and I'd like to hear some voice | 15:41 |
| efried | bauzas He's doing all his new-hire stuff at his new job. | 15:41 |
| bauzas | ah ok | 15:41 |
| efried | Said he would probably be back tomorrow or the next day. | 15:41 |
| bauzas | so I'll speak out loud, if anyone cares | 15:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Move loopback setup and removal to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/495664 | 15:42 |
| efried | I'll listen. And maybe even care :) | 15:42 |
| dansmith | I'll care. And maybe even listen. | 15:42 |
| bauzas | given a pGPU can support different types for the same device, we supposingly said in the spec we'll use a whitelist for telling which type to use | 15:43 |
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| bauzas | now for Queens it's easy as we said we would only support a single type | 15:43 |
| bauzas | so I'm basically accumulating all the available vGPUs for the same type | 15:44 |
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| bauzas | now, my question is more Rocky (but since I'm designing the internal interfaces now, I'd make my model resilient to the changes) | 15:44 |
| bauzas | what if as an operator, I'm asking for 2 types? | 15:45 |
| bauzas | then, I guess I'd use the nested RP model, and have a RP per type? | 15:45 |
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| bauzas | that's where I'm confused | 15:45 |
| mriedem | stephenfin: please drop your +2 from this, it's wrong https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507151/ | 15:45 |
| bauzas | I mean, it would probably better for me to just upload my current patch so we could discuss | 15:45 |
| bauzas | nevermind the above | 15:46 |
| bauzas | I'll just push something that will create a discussion | 15:46 |
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| efried | bauzas This is a good example of where traits != settings. | 15:46 |
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| efried | bauzas You would model your pGPU as the RP. It would have inventory of VGPU. And it would have one trait for each vGPU type it supports. | 15:47 |
| efried | bauzas Then when you ask for a vGPU, you would specify as a required trait which type you want to be created. | 15:47 |
| mriedem | stephenfin: docs question - we now have a nova/user/index but nothing links to that from the main index right? | 15:47 |
| mriedem | so how do people find it? | 15:47 |
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| edleafe | efried: no, that's what nested RPs should be doing | 15:48 |
| mriedem | or is that wip? | 15:48 |
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| efried | bauzas And then [something TBD] tells virt which types you want to create. | 15:48 |
| dansmith | efried: well, you can't do that if it has a limited number of each type it can provide | 15:48 |
| efried | edleafe Nested only applies if you want to pre-create the vGPUs of a specific type. | 15:48 |
| stephenfin | mriedem: That's WIP. sdague, asettle and I have been working through some ideas on how to structure that | 15:48 |
| dansmith | efried: in that case you'd need to expose two sets of inventory (i.e. be two providers) | 15:48 |
| bauzas | yeah, that's my point | 15:48 |
| stephenfin | I do think I have a patch up to resolve just that though | 15:48 |
| efried | edleafe or if you want to limit the number of each type you can create on the fly. | 15:48 |
| * stephenfin looks | 15:48 | |
| bauzas | it's not an easy answer to me | 15:48 |
| bauzas | we should only have nested RPs if we need more than one inventory for a single resource provider | 15:49 |
| mriedem | stephenfin: ok i'm moving some missing stuff from the old user guide, and was wondering if i should put it in the user index or in the main index - guessing the user index since the main index will point htere | 15:49 |
| efried | dansmith bauzas I'm thinking of the case where the vGPUs are created on the fly, and they can be of any type, and that type gets determined at boot. | 15:49 |
| bauzas | that's a tautology, I assume, but that would mean we would need to track consumption of those resources separately | 15:49 |
| edleafe | efried: bauzas asked: 10:45 < bauzas>| then, I guess I'd use the nested RP model, and have a RP per type? | 15:49 |
| dansmith | efried: yeah, if it's just a configuration thing, then that's fine | 15:49 |
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| stephenfin | mriedem: That would be my thinking yes pages in '/X' belong in '/X/index' | 15:50 |
| edleafe | efried: if there is only one type, then nested isn't needed, of course | 15:50 |
| stephenfin | *yes. Pages | 15:50 |
| mriedem | sure, as long as someone can eventually find /X/index :) | 15:50 |
| efried | edleafe Even if there's multiple possible types - if you determine which type at boot time, and one type is as good as another, then you still don't need nested to represent this. | 15:51 |
| stephenfin | mriedem: One request: if you do pull brand new pages in, can you rename anything with underscore to use hyphens? It's one of my OCD things ;) | 15:51 |
| efried | dansmith And at some point we'll have to talk about the mechanism by which you "configure" the thing you requested. | 15:51 |
| mriedem | stephenfin: you mean the actual rst filename? | 15:51 |
| stephenfin | mriedem: Yup, we've got work to do there. Try to find the SR-IOV docs at the moment | 15:51 |
| dansmith | efried: that'd be virt specific | 15:51 |
| stephenfin | Yup - that filename is reflected in the URL | 15:51 |
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| bauzas | yup | 15:51 |
| mriedem | stephenfin: those are in the networking guide aren't they? | 15:51 |
| dansmith | efried: unless you're talking about things like ironic raid layouts | 15:51 |
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| * stephenfin meant PCI passthrough guide | 15:51 | |
| stephenfin | oops | 15:51 |
| efried | dansmith Well, my understanding is that ironic is going to do such things via templates, and they'll represent a single template as a custom trait. | 15:52 |
| dansmith | efried: what I meant was some quirk of the vgpu that allowed you to configure it one way or the other that didn't affect its resource usage | 15:52 |
| dansmith | efried: right | 15:52 |
| edleafe | efried: are you saying that a pGPU that is capable of multiple types, it cannot be configured to provide some of one, and some of another? IOW, does it always have to be all one type at boot? | 15:52 |
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| efried | dansmith ++. I don't really know how VGPUs are "deployed" so I'm kinda thinking of it like VFs. | 15:52 |
| efried | edleafe That's what I don't know, specifically about VGPUs. | 15:53 |
| dansmith | efried: there are some things you can do when you carve off a vgpu on some of the devices, like decide whether it gets a framebuffer or is just for compute, etc | 15:53 |
| bauzas | edleafe: that's what we agreed in the spec | 15:53 |
| edleafe | bauzas: just one type at boot? | 15:54 |
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| bauzas | I'm just having a testbox now that shows me for a single pGPU that I can have 11 different types | 15:54 |
| bauzas | multiple that by 4 pGPUs | 15:54 |
| bauzas | fortunately, all of them share the same types | 15:54 |
| efried | bauzas edleafe Are you saying the pGPU sits there capable of whatever, but the first time you carve off a vGPU of a specific type, you lock the pGPU into only being able to supply that one type? | 15:54 |
| bauzas | efried: again, that's what we agreed in the spec, no new news | 15:55 |
| dansmith | yep | 15:55 |
| efried | that's... interesting. | 15:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Import the config drive docs from openstack-manuals https://review.openstack.org/514723 | 15:55 |
| mriedem | stephenfin: ok here it is ^ - note i plan on backporting that to pike; when i do i'll have to remove the user/index part since that didn't exist in pike | 15:55 |
| bauzas | anyway, you'll see my proposal | 15:55 |
| efried | If that's the case, you better remove the other types' traits during that first boot. | 15:55 |
| bauzas | definitely rushing for uploading the first try | 15:55 |
| dansmith | efried: no, I think what we should do is require them to be configured once at boot, | 15:55 |
| dansmith | efried: so we expose traits on how it is configured and don't change | 15:56 |
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| efried | dansmith "boot" meaning compute startup, not "boot" meaning instance spawn | 15:56 |
| dansmith | efried: otherwise we have to embed that logic into the scheduler, and we can't since it's virt specific | 15:56 |
| stephenfin | mriedem: I wonder if the patch that landed user/index should be backported instead? | 15:56 |
| dansmith | efried: right | 15:56 |
| edleafe | efried: I was thinking more of the case where it could be configure to run half type A, and half type B | 15:56 |
| efried | got it. | 15:56 |
| bauzas | efried: here is a single pGPU http://paste.openstack.org/show/624497/ | 15:56 |
| mriedem | stephenfin: it's not used, so i don't see the point | 15:56 |
| mriedem | to backport that is | 15:56 |
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| stephenfin | It's not? I thought the index pages were linked to from docs.o.o? | 15:56 |
| stephenfin | But I could be wrong. idk for sure | 15:57 |
| mriedem | https://docs.openstack.org/pike/user/ ? | 15:57 |
| mriedem | don't see compute in there | 15:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Only filter/weigh hosts once if scheduling a single instance https://review.openstack.org/513931 | 15:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Add Selection objects https://review.openstack.org/499239 | 15:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Return Selection objects from the scheduler driver https://review.openstack.org/495854 | 15:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Change RPC for select_destinations() https://review.openstack.org/510159 | 15:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Move the claim_resources method to scheduler utils https://review.openstack.org/511357 | 15:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Make conductor pass and use host_lists https://review.openstack.org/511358 | 15:57 |
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| efried | bauzas So there's your answer. The pGPU is your RP, and by the time you set it up as an RP with inventory & traits in placement, you've locked it into providing a single type of vGPU. | 15:58 |
| stephenfin | mriedem: dhellmann isn't about to confirm, but I think that's automatically generated based on whether the index pages exist or not | 15:58 |
| stephenfin | We add the page, it appears there | 15:58 |
| efried | bauzas And if you want two different types, you'd better have two different pGPUs that provide those types. | 15:58 |
| bauzas | efried: no, because we agreed on supporting multiple types | 15:58 |
| bauzas | anyway | 15:58 |
| efried | bauzas And you'll have to use numbered syntax to specify them. | 15:58 |
| stephenfin | But I should run that by AJaeger or dhellmann first | 15:58 |
| mriedem | stephenfin: ah you're right https://docs.openstack.org/queens/user/ | 15:58 |
| efried | s/specify/request/ | 15:58 |
| mriedem | stephenfin: yeah ok so i'll backport the user/index in-tree page before https://review.openstack.org/514723 when i do the backports | 15:59 |
| stephenfin | (y) | 15:59 |
| stephenfin | mriedem: I do realize I said I'd do that doc and the other ones too. I'll get them done soon as the summit is behind us | 16:00 |
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| efried | bauzas e.g. ?resources1=VGPU:1&required1=VGPU_TYPE_GRID_M10_0B&resources2=VGPU_1&required2=VGPU_TYPE_GRID_M10_8Q | 16:01 |
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| edleafe | I will take that ^^ as an opportunity to reiterate my request for multiple 'request=' qs params | 16:05 |
| mriedem | stephenfin: why doesn't user/index include the links to the API stuff we have in the main index? | 16:07 |
| mriedem | shouldn't a user guide care about end users of the API? | 16:07 |
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| efried | edleafe We still need the so-called "unnumbered" group. | 16:07 |
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| mriedem | stephenfin: looks like user/index is more for operators | 16:07 |
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| jmccarthy | Hmm are permissions like this ok for the console.log ? root qemu 0 Oct 24 15:46 console.log (nothing logged) | 16:08 |
| stephenfin | mriedem: To be honest, I'm still confused by the divide between 'user' and 'admin'. The lines are blurred | 16:08 |
| stephenfin | I think the API is documented in the developer section, whatever that's called | 16:08 |
| sdague | stephenfin: user == "only have access to the API, not the physical machines" | 16:09 |
| sdague | admin == "people with access to the machines" | 16:09 |
| efried | edleafe Hm, I guess you could get away with not doing that if we changed the semantic for resources= to always be "same RP"; then you would have to split up all of your resource requests that you didn't need to be in the same RP. | 16:09 |
| mriedem | sdague: then the content here is wrong https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/ | 16:09 |
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| sdague | mriedem: yes, it is | 16:09 |
| stephenfin | mriedem, sdague: I think this is where my confusion stems from https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/pike/os-manuals-migration.html | 16:10 |
| sdague | but things were stuck merging, and we were going to have nothing, so we ran it through | 16:10 |
| stephenfin | "end-user content such as concept guides, advice, tutorials, step-by-step instructions for using the CLI to perform specific tasks, etc." | 16:10 |
| stephenfin | the concept-guides bit | 16:10 |
| stephenfin | anything that was clear "do this to achieve that" was shoved into 'user' | 16:10 |
| efried | edleafe But you *do* need to be able to specify multiple RC:amount+traits in a *single* resources= qparam. How would you do that? | 16:10 |
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| stephenfin | Fortunately it's easy to fix, and it was better have something than nothing, as sdague points out | 16:11 |
| sdague | stephenfin: concept guides in that context are the api-guide kind of docs | 16:11 |
| edleafe | efried: why would that be required? | 16:11 |
| sdague | what is a server, what is a flavor | 16:11 |
| stephenfin | Yeah, that makes sense | 16:11 |
| mriedem | which is this thing https://developer.openstack.org/api-guide/compute/index.html | 16:11 |
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| sdague | mriedem: right, but nova is the only project that has that | 16:12 |
| efried | edleafe Because sometimes it's important that two resources come from the exact same RP. E.g. for a VF, I need the VF itself and its corresponding bandwidth to come from the same RP. It's no good if you allocate me the VF from one PF and the bandwidth from its neighbor. | 16:12 |
| stephenfin | sdague: I wonder if we should eventually move that into 'user/api' or something so? | 16:12 |
| stephenfin | I know we want to keep api-ref separate, but api-guide is different | 16:12 |
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| sdague | maybe, the biggest issue is branch vs. branchless docs | 16:13 |
| stephenfin | There's a lot more projects using https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/ | 16:13 |
| stephenfin | Good point | 16:14 |
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| mriedem | man, in general we're missinga ton of content from https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/stable/ocata/doc/user-guide/source | 16:15 |
| stephenfin | mriedem: Those indexes and some general shuffling of docs are on my radar for the next few weeks. We should probably track notes like that in a bug or something | 16:15 |
| openstackgerrit | sean mooney proposed openstack/os-traits master: add plathform security namespaces https://review.openstack.org/514712 | 16:16 |
| openstackgerrit | sean mooney proposed openstack/os-traits master: add firmware (fw) traits namespace https://review.openstack.org/514713 | 16:16 |
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| mriedem | stephenfin: ahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1726932 | 16:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1726932 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "The nova user guide is more for admins/operators than end users" [Medium,Triaged] | 16:18 |
| stephenfin | Cool. Assigned to myself | 16:18 |
| openstackgerrit | sean mooney proposed openstack/os-traits master: add fw common namespace https://review.openstack.org/514737 | 16:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Import the config drive docs from openstack-manuals https://review.openstack.org/514723 | 16:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Import user-data page from openstack-manuals https://review.openstack.org/514738 | 16:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make migration uuid hold allocations for migrating instances https://review.openstack.org/506420 | 16:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make live migration hold resources with a migration allocation https://review.openstack.org/507638 | 16:24 |
| dansmith | mriedem: would like to close this out before too long ^ | 16:24 |
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| mriedem | yeah it's in the starred list | 16:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Import the config drive docs from openstack-manuals https://review.openstack.org/514723 | 16:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Import user-data page from openstack-manuals https://review.openstack.org/514738 | 16:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Elod Illes proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Transform scheduler.select_destinations notification https://review.openstack.org/508506 | 16:37 |
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| mriedem | stephenfin: well 2 down, 14 to go :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1714017/comments/9 | 16:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1714017 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "User guide was not migrated to the nova repo" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem) | 16:39 |
| mgagne | mriedem: yes (re cellv1) | 16:40 |
| mgagne | mriedem: running mainly kilo and very soon mitaka | 16:41 |
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| sdague | stephenfin: well, I honestly don't think the on disk structure matters, it's the organizing portals | 16:43 |
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| stephenfin | It doesn't, but we shouldn't have content targeted at admins in the user guide (and vice versa, tbh). The folders help with that separation | 16:44 |
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| mriedem | btw, this isn't confusing at all https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/blob/stable/ocata/doc/user-guide/source/configure-access-and-security-for-instances.rst vs https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/blob/stable/ocata/doc/user-guide/source/cli-nova-configure-access-security-for-instances.rst | 16:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: [placement] Confirm that empty resources query causes 400 https://review.openstack.org/511488 | 16:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: [placement] add coverage for update of standard resource class https://review.openstack.org/511485 | 16:48 |
| mvpnitesh | hi all , i'm trying to migrate the instance in multi node setup, after i run the command to migrate it is in migrating state for some time and later the migration is getting cancelled as the migration timeout has happened | 16:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: libvirt: Provide VGPU inventory for a single GPU type https://review.openstack.org/514763 | 16:56 |
| bauzas | efried: dansmith: edleafe: first attempt ^ | 16:56 |
| efried | bauzas Regardant... | 16:57 |
| dansmith | omg -1 no tests! | 16:57 |
| bauzas | yeah, of course | 16:57 |
| bauzas | I'll show the UTs soon | 16:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Update libvirt volume drivers to use os-brick constants https://review.openstack.org/510311 | 16:59 |
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| dansmith | bauzas: <3 L5833 of driver.py :) | 16:59 |
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| bauzas | heh, I branched mdevs from the existing PCI resources, even if libvirt config XML provides them in a PCI tree | 17:00 |
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| efried | bauzas This seems reasonable | 17:03 |
| efried | bauzas Once virt has more control over its RPs (e.g. can add own traits) this will get more interesting. | 17:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make live migration hold resources with a migration allocation https://review.openstack.org/507638 | 17:22 |
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| dansmith | stephenfin: did these answer your non-blocking questions enough to earn a +W? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508595/8 | 17:24 |
| openstackgerrit | priyaduggirala proposed openstack/nova master: Rename parameters in call() of nova/image/glance.py https://review.openstack.org/508533 | 17:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: libvirt: Provide VGPU inventory for a single GPU type https://review.openstack.org/514763 | 17:28 |
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| dansmith | bauzas: do you have any prototype code to actually allocate a gpu device during spawn? | 17:30 |
| dansmith | er, allocate is a loaded term.. "configure" maybe | 17:30 |
| bauzas | dansmith: not yet, tomorrow | 17:30 |
| dansmith | okay | 17:30 |
| bauzas | I mostly see the direction tho | 17:30 |
| dansmith | cool | 17:30 |
| bauzas | once we ask for a specific GPU in the flavor, that goes to the compute | 17:30 |
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| bauzas | then in libvirt, I'll lookup the flavor and find the extra spec | 17:31 |
| dansmith | well, in libvirt you get the allocation now | 17:31 |
| bauzas | once that, I'll call out the system to create a mdev if I can't find it | 17:31 |
| bauzas | oh, good to know | 17:31 |
| dansmith | but yeah, same difference | 17:31 |
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| bauzas | lemme see where we get those allocations | 17:32 |
| bauzas | my master is quite new | 17:32 |
| bauzas | oh I see | 17:32 |
| bauzas | allocations as a param FTW | 17:32 |
| bauzas | good good | 17:33 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: I haven't yet looked but I suspect we call placement to pass the allocation to the virt driver, right? | 17:33 |
| dansmith | yeah | 17:34 |
| bauzas | I mean in the compute service | 17:34 |
| bauzas | okay | 17:34 |
| dansmith | yep | 17:34 |
| bauzas | for that consumer ID ? | 17:34 |
| dansmith | yeah | 17:34 |
| bauzas | all good then | 17:34 |
| bauzas | now I wonder one thing tho | 17:34 |
| bauzas | say we now have the inventory reporting VGPUs | 17:34 |
| bauzas | if the flavor goes asking for that, does placement magically create allocation for that RC ? | 17:35 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: ^ | 17:35 |
| bauzas | I tend to do so, but I need confirmation | 17:35 |
| dansmith | well, | 17:35 |
| dansmith | placement doesn't create an allocation, no, | 17:35 |
| bauzas | sorry | 17:35 |
| dansmith | but it returns an allocation candidate with that init, | 17:35 |
| bauzas | the claim I mean | 17:35 |
| dansmith | and then scheduler will try to create an allocation from it yeah | 17:35 |
| dansmith | so you should have an allocation for a vgpu when you get to spawn | 17:36 |
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| bauzas | *will* means I need to code ? | 17:36 |
| dansmith | no, will means it will happen if it's in the flavor | 17:36 |
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| bauzas | oh, snap | 17:36 |
| bauzas | yeah I remember | 17:36 |
| bauzas | hence the scheduler.utils method that gives you the resource classes | 17:36 |
| bauzas | anyway, I have a devstack, I can give it a try | 17:37 |
| * bauzas needs to call it a day | 17:37 | |
| dansmith | good progress, thanks! | 17:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add FlavorPayload.description for versioned notifications https://review.openstack.org/514782 | 18:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: xenapi: cached images should be cleaned up by time https://review.openstack.org/465954 | 18:30 |
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| efried | dansmith cdent edleafe You know how we've been searching for a name for the RP that's not a sharing RP? Today it's the "compute node RP" but we need a more generic name. And some have been calling it the "root RP" but that's overloading from nested. | 18:57 |
| efried | So what about "anchor"? | 18:57 |
| edleafe | We're sunk if we use that | 18:57 |
| efried | Hah! | 18:57 |
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| cdent | efried: what about target? | 19:01 |
| edleafe | "base"? | 19:02 |
| dansmith | I didn't know we were searching for a name | 19:02 |
| efried | dansmith What have you been calling it? | 19:02 |
| cdent | dansmith: it’s come up on some of the reviews that include changes to shared related stuff | 19:02 |
| cdent | and on some of those “root” was used, but that’s overloaded | 19:03 |
| dansmith | efried: I don't know that I have.. but probably "compute node rp" | 19:03 |
| cdent | dansmith: a bit specific, no? | 19:03 |
| efried | Right, we'll be wanting to move away from that long term. | 19:04 |
| cdent | presumably there could be a situation where a compute node isn’t involved? | 19:04 |
| dansmith | well, I haven't really needed to refer to anything other than a compute node | 19:04 |
| edleafe | "radicle" is similar to root | 19:04 |
| edleafe | That'll get the dictionaries dusted off | 19:04 |
| dansmith | I guess I'm missing the need for a name | 19:04 |
| efried | edleafe Far out. | 19:04 |
| efried | dansmith Generically in placement, it's not always a compute node. Or at least, we want to code up placement so that's the case. At least that's what I thought the vision was. | 19:05 |
| dansmith | sure, I'm just saying I don't think I've had a need to refer to this distinction | 19:05 |
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| dansmith | like, I'd call it "RP" and "Sharing RP" I guess | 19:05 |
| dansmith | and prefix it with "compute node" when I'm talking about that | 19:05 |
| dansmith | because, you know, | 19:05 |
| dansmith | it's possible that a compute node would be a sharing one :) | 19:05 |
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| * efried goes to figure out how to do one of those online votey thingies. | 19:07 | |
| cdent | dansmith: if you want some context, patchset 6 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480379/ | 19:07 |
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| cdent | see yas | 19:09 |
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| dansmith | the three sentences you wrote on that PS? | 19:09 |
| dansmith | oh well | 19:09 |
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| efried | dansmith Not the only time it has come up, though. I just hit it again: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514199/2/nova/objects/resource_provider.py@2459 | 19:11 |
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| dansmith | right there it calls it a sharing provider, right? | 19:11 |
| * dansmith fails to see the big confusion here | 19:11 | |
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| dansmith | or you're complaining about "root providers" I guess | 19:12 |
| dansmith | how about "selfish providers" :P | 19:12 |
| edleafe | dansmith: I already suggested that :) | 19:12 |
| dansmith | they're all providers, some are sharing, so it seems like that's the distinction | 19:13 |
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| dansmith | edleafe: oh sorry | 19:13 |
| edleafe | heehee | 19:14 |
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| efried | edleafe dansmith https://doodle.com/poll/9fkqidtfzwh7y9tr | 19:17 |
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| efried | Added "selfish". | 19:18 |
| edleafe | voted for "selfish" | 19:18 |
| edleafe | 'cause I'm selfish | 19:18 |
| dansmith | why is "compute node" even in there? | 19:20 |
| efried | dansmith You seemed attached to it :) | 19:20 |
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| dansmith | huh? I said that in my referring to it, I was always referring to an actual compute node and thus had no need for another term | 19:21 |
| dansmith | obviously we wouldn't want to call it a compute node in placementy code | 19:21 |
| efried | Okay, I'm good with that. It wasn't clear from your discourse above. I'll remove 'root' too. | 19:21 |
| dansmith | efried: [12:04:06] <dansmith>well, I haven't really needed to refer to anything other than a compute node | 19:22 |
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| edleafe | You don't have to remove them. | 19:22 |
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| efried | too late | 19:22 |
| edleafe | Just don't vote for them | 19:22 |
| dansmith | we're not going to call it compute node, so unless edleafe just wants to trap flies, it might as well not be there :) | 19:22 |
| edleafe | if you put "doughnut" in there I wouldn't mind, I just wouldn't vote for it | 19:23 |
| efried | I was trying to figure out a way to settle on something without bikeshedding | 19:23 |
| efried | Now we're bikeshedding about the poll itself. | 19:23 |
| efried | Meta-bikeshedding. | 19:23 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: ok https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506420/ | 19:39 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: so, let me tell you why some of that is the way it is | 19:42 |
| dansmith | you're going to tell me to clean it up | 19:42 |
| dansmith | but, it's because in the next patch I move this out of the actual task and share it from live migration | 19:43 |
| dansmith | any time I change something here it causes the next patch to conflict out like a mofo | 19:43 |
| dansmith | so I've just been trying to avoid a big refactor | 19:43 |
| dansmith | but I guess that's just not gonna fly | 19:43 |
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| mriedem | i hadn't powered ahead | 19:44 |
| mriedem | i gave it my all on this one | 19:44 |
| dansmith | yeah, I know | 19:44 |
| dansmith | I'm just really burned out on this | 19:44 |
| mriedem | couldn't we do a patch in between that handles the refactor to move it into a utils? | 19:45 |
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| mriedem | that's what i did when i moved the force=true claim in conductor stuff to scheduler_utils so evacuate and live migration could both use that | 19:45 |
| dansmith | I should just squash out the refactor into this one since it adds stuff and then just removes it | 19:46 |
| dansmith | I don't think there's any reason not to have it in one of the tasks, it just has to be accessible | 19:46 |
| mriedem | i put that other thing here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/91f436d6c095573594f660438fe2c72e721d97ce/nova/scheduler/utils.py#L222 | 19:46 |
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| mriedem | but sure, it could live in the migrate task | 19:46 |
| mriedem | we kind of end up with this allocationy utility stuff everywhere though | 19:47 |
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| dansmith | yeah but unless they're going to actually be shared, putting it in utils just makes that a big bundle of indirected methods | 19:47 |
| dansmith | which doesn't help, IMHO | 19:48 |
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| mriedem | i'm not really following what you mean | 19:48 |
| mriedem | either way is fine | 19:48 |
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| dansmith | I'd rather it be closer to the user, i.e. in one of the tasks | 19:48 |
| mriedem | but yeah it seems the base patch should then have the utility code | 19:49 |
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| mriedem | either way i'd rather not deal with reviewing both the refactor and the live migration task using it in the same change, | 19:49 |
| mriedem | we could split that | 19:49 |
| dansmith | I'm squashing it into the first patch, | 19:49 |
| mriedem | ok | 19:49 |
| dansmith | so it just adds the utility methods and uses them | 19:49 |
| dansmith | and either I'll push it up that way and try to apply your concerns to the refactored code, | 19:50 |
| dansmith | or you won't have heard from me by friday and should pick this up | 19:50 |
| dansmith | and give my cellsv2 talk at SYD | 19:50 |
| mriedem | i'm happy to pick up addressing my comments on this, | 19:50 |
| mriedem | none of them are hard to handle | 19:50 |
| dansmith | no | 19:50 |
| dansmith | I'll do it | 19:51 |
| mriedem | i mean after you rev | 19:51 |
| mriedem | if there is something missed i'll just do it myself, or on top | 19:51 |
| dansmith | okay | 19:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hongbin Lu proposed openstack/nova master: placement: add API reference for create inventory https://review.openstack.org/511342 | 20:02 |
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| mriedem | this trap has been laid since 2014 https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1726871 | 20:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1726871 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "AttributeError: 'BlockDeviceMapping' object has no attribute 'uuid'" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem) | 20:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Fix AttributeError in BlockDeviceMapping.obj_load_attr https://review.openstack.org/514825 | 20:48 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: melwitt: ^ easy fix for a regression i introduced in pike | 20:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Fix AttributeError in BlockDeviceMapping.obj_load_attr https://review.openstack.org/514825 | 20:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make migration uuid hold allocations for migrating instances https://review.openstack.org/506420 | 20:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make live migration hold resources with a migration allocation https://review.openstack.org/507638 | 20:53 |
| dansmith | mriedem: seams were cleaner than I thought ^ | 20:54 |
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| melwitt | mriedem, dansmith: as a general rule, if we do obj_reset_changes on an ObjectField, we should use recursive=True? | 20:57 |
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| melwitt | just trying to understand that bit | 20:57 |
| mriedem | melwitt: not sure honestly, because i found a similar problem in the instance object yesterday | 20:58 |
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| mriedem | this https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/instance.py#L563 | 20:58 |
| mriedem | after you create an instance object, ec2_ids is still marked as changd | 20:59 |
| mriedem | *changed | 20:59 |
| mriedem | however, a later call to instance.save() won't care https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/instance.py#L650 | 20:59 |
| melwitt | yeah, I'm guessing the "what_changed" logic recurses, checking | 21:00 |
| mriedem | melwitt: in my bdm patch, if you remove recursive=True and replace https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514825/2/nova/tests/unit/objects/test_block_device.py@391 with bdm.save(), you'll see the failure | 21:00 |
| mriedem | it does | 21:00 |
| melwitt | okay, that's why then. I was just thinking (and you already saw) I bet we have other cases of this around in the code | 21:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jackie Truong proposed openstack/nova master: Implement certificate_utils https://review.openstack.org/479949 | 21:09 |
| mriedem | dansmith: do you want me to address the stuff in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506420/ ? | 21:11 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: no | 21:13 |
| dansmith | melwitt: we should call recursive=True if we've caused all the downstream objects to be saved (or ignored if they have nothing to save) | 21:14 |
| dansmith | it's a detail that came out kinda late in the objectification work so we didn't have a specific pattern from the beginning | 21:14 |
| tonyb | mriedem: the EOL is held up on tooling so it you -W the releases request we can get that last change in | 21:14 |
| mriedem | tonyb: already done, just need the newton change +W | 21:15 |
| mriedem | been waiting for you to wake up | 21:15 |
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| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514685/ | 21:15 |
| melwitt | dansmith: okay. so in a lazy-load situation we would always want recursive=True if we've freshly loaded an ObjectField | 21:15 |
| tonyb | mriedem: :) | 21:15 |
| dansmith | melwitt: well, if we've done that, the nested object should have no pending changes and thus it wouldn't matter | 21:16 |
| melwitt | dansmith: mriedem saw that if he didn't use recursive=True it's flagging the bdm.instance field as changed? | 21:17 |
| melwitt | I wonder if there's a different bug in Instance then? | 21:17 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: what in the scheduler client init do you think is so heavy that we shouldn't be doing it again in that utility method? | 21:17 |
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| tonyb | mriedem: I'll need more coffee before I vote on that. | 21:18 |
| mriedem | dansmith: it's not real heavy, it's just loading up two other objects, just seems unnecessary | 21:18 |
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| mriedem | tonyb: just keep in mind you +Wed the same change in stable/ocata | 21:19 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I just hate all our methods that take 27 arguments and then do a ton of inefficient shit anyway, but alright | 21:19 |
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| dansmith | melwitt: yeah, I dunno about that fix tbh, but haven't looked closely | 21:19 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: oh well maybe it's not as inefficient as i thought, now that i look at LazyLoader | 21:20 |
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| mriedem | i guess the queryclient thing in there won't even be loaded unless it's called | 21:21 |
| mriedem | anyway, that's not what my -1 was for | 21:21 |
| tonyb | mriedem: s/+W/+2/ but I take your point. I'm trying to workout how doing this last minute helps. I'm on the fence ATM | 21:21 |
| mriedem | tonyb: belmiro from cern was asking this morning if he should be configuring placement_database when planning the upgrade from newton to ocata | 21:21 |
| mriedem | because it's in the newton code and says to use it | 21:21 |
| mriedem | tonyb: so for those that are <newton and going to get here eventually, we want to avoid the confusion before those newton deployments start thinking about going to >=ocata | 21:22 |
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| tonyb | mriedem: okay | 21:22 |
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| tonyb | mriedem: Just to be certain (and I shoudl have asked this for the ocata backport) ... if someone is running newton and set those options and we remove themi, they upgrade to $last_release ... the config file still loads right? | 21:39 |
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| mriedem | tonyb: i think you can put whatever junk you want in the config file | 21:40 |
| mriedem | i haven't tested that scenario though | 21:40 |
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| mriedem | don't have a devstack handy either, but would think you could put [DEFAULT]foo=bar in nova.conf and restart n-cpu and it'd be fine | 21:40 |
| dansmith | mriedem: correct | 21:41 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: our support people LOVE it | 21:41 |
| dansmith | (not) | 21:41 |
| dansmith | I've closed bugs before with "you typo'd that thing, which is why it's not working" | 21:41 |
| mriedem | i remember there being an option to fail startup if you're using deprecated options | 21:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make migration uuid hold allocations for migrating instances https://review.openstack.org/506420 | 21:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make live migration hold resources with a migration allocation https://review.openstack.org/507638 | 21:41 |
| dansmith | mriedem: only while they're deprecated, once we remove them you can go back to having whatever you want in there :) | 21:42 |
| mriedem | yeah | 21:42 |
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| mriedem | like, [workarounds]make_reschedules_fix_all_my_problems=True | 21:42 |
| mriedem | and then report a bug when it doesn't | 21:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hongbin Lu proposed openstack/nova master: Fix wrapping of neutron forbidden error https://review.openstack.org/508802 | 21:43 |
| dansmith | more like [important_things]/cache_mode = "don't lose my data" -> why are my filesystems getting corrupted | 21:44 |
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| dansmith | gah | 21:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make migration uuid hold allocations for migrating instances https://review.openstack.org/506420 | 21:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make live migration hold resources with a migration allocation https://review.openstack.org/507638 | 21:49 |
| melwitt | speaking of cache_mode ... we had a regression in newton https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514339 | 21:49 |
| tonyb | mriedem, dansmith: thanks. That feels like somethign I shoudl have already known :( | 21:49 |
| dansmith | tonyb: yeah, I was just calling your manager to report you....... | 21:50 |
| tonyb | dansmith: ok. | 21:50 |
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| tonyb | at least I got my Red Hat | 21:51 |
| dansmith | ;p; | 21:51 |
| dansmith | lol | 21:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Add access_url_base to console_auth_tokens table https://review.openstack.org/334614 | 21:58 |
| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Add console_auth_token_get() method to DB API https://review.openstack.org/481700 | 21:58 |
| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Add console connection object https://review.openstack.org/320063 | 21:58 |
| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Add periodic task to clean expired console tokens https://review.openstack.org/325381 | 21:58 |
| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Use ConsoleConnection object to generate authorizations https://review.openstack.org/325414 | 21:58 |
| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Convert websocketproxy to use db for token validation https://review.openstack.org/333990 | 21:58 |
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| melwitt | I dunno if yall have seen these bugs opened recently https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1726301 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1726310 | 22:43 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1726301 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Nova should list instances even if it can't connect to a cell DB" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Surya Seetharaman (tssurya) | 22:43 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1726310 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova doesn't list services if it can't connect to a cell DB" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Belmiro Moreira (moreira-belmiro-email-lists) | 22:43 |
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| melwitt | re-opens my concern about quotas going wonky when cells are down too | 22:44 |
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| dansmith | I have a todo in my list stuff to address this yeah | 22:45 |
| dansmith | but it's not even all merged yet | 22:45 |
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| melwitt | k, that's good to hear that there's already a plan | 22:47 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: ffs that cache mode patch, | 22:47 |
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| mriedem | and that was backported to newton, | 22:47 |
| mriedem | and newton is due for eol | 22:47 |
| melwitt | mriedem: yeah, it's a crap situation | 22:47 |
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| mriedem | tonyb: ^ | 22:48 |
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| mriedem | we'll likely need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514339/ in newton's final release / eol now too | 22:48 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: is kashyap testing that fix out? | 22:49 |
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| tonyb | mriedem: okay I'll look at it | 22:50 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: I need to check with kashyap, I'm not sure whether he's confirmed the fix locally or with the customer yet | 22:54 |
| melwitt | he's away at kvm forum this week | 22:55 |
| mriedem | sigh | 22:55 |
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| mriedem | ok, it would be nice if someone else from the red hat team could recreate and verify the fix before we actually eol newton, because while red hat customers will get the fix in newton, people consuming from upstream stable wouldn't, and that sucks | 22:56 |
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| clarkb | mriedem: you should ping tony as the eol is happening right now I think | 22:57 |
| clarkb | tonyb: ^ you have been pinged | 22:57 |
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| mriedem | clarkb: see sbove | 22:57 |
| mriedem | *above | 22:57 |
| clarkb | oh perfect | 22:57 |
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| tonyb | clarkb: It is but nova has been excluded as it has a pending release request ... it wasn't strictly needed but allows thise these shenanigans ;P | 22:59 |
| tonyb | mriedem: I'll look at it after I've done the EOL thing as I don't want to mess that up | 23:00 |
| melwitt | mriedem: yes, understood. I'll see what I can do | 23:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add Flavor.description attribute https://review.openstack.org/514371 | 23:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add FlavorPayload.description for versioned notifications https://review.openstack.org/514782 | 23:04 |
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