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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Regenerate context during targeting, and sanity check some things https://review.openstack.org/511651 | 00:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Make TestRPC inherit from the base nova TestCase https://review.openstack.org/507239 | 00:50 |
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| sapd_ | dansmith, listing from command :D | 01:16 |
| dansmith | sapd_: is anything else going on on the cloud when you're doing this btw? | 01:16 |
| dansmith | sapd_: also is it only when you do --all-tenants? | 01:17 |
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| sapd_ | no, When I use normal user, I get this error too. | 01:17 |
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| dansmith | sapd_: you could try applying this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511651/ | 01:30 |
| dansmith | sapd_: back out the other change and apply this, api and conductor nodes at least | 01:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chen Hanxiao proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: properly decode error message from qemu guest agent https://review.openstack.org/511459 | 01:35 |
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| sapd_ | When I turn on DEBUG mode, I see Generated UUID 7bfa7fa8-ea0b-43bd-9b13-ffb1f92806a1 for service 67 _from_db_object /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/objects/service.py:245 | 01:47 |
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| sapd_ | But service with id 67 was nova-compute ocata, and It was deleted dansmith | 01:48 |
| sapd_ | The new service with id 95 | 01:48 |
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| sapd_ | The compute name is compute-1, I saw three records in services table in nova_cell1 database | 01:51 |
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| alex_xu | efried: the aggregate/shared is the most complex part, previous implementation is using the sql building the mapping between shared rp and root rp, currently we move that into the python code | 02:00 |
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| alex_xu | efried: the basic logic is ensure the correct combination of the root rp and shared rp, and find out the traits in those combination | 02:00 |
| sapd_ | hi dansmith! I fixed that error, I deleted two records of a compute service. | 02:03 |
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| alex_xu | gmann: fyi, we got some feedback from nova meeting http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-10-12-21.00.log.html#l-90 | 02:07 |
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| gmann | alex_xu: yea i saw. i will update BP/spec accordingly | 02:15 |
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| alex_xu | gmann: thanks | 02:22 |
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| vivsoni | from pike onwards, do we have some other flag to enable multipath .. other than 'volume_use_multipath = True' | 03:20 |
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| vivsoni | In case of FC, i am able to see multiple vlun, but ISCSI there is only one vluns created after cinder volume attached to nova instance | 03:21 |
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| vivsoni | the 'connector' value passed to cinder's driver code 'initialise_connection' function does have 'multipath=False' instead of 'multipath=True' in case of ISCSI | 03:23 |
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| bauwser | good morning folks | 07:01 |
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| openstack | bug 1721652 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Evacuate cleanup fails at _delete_allocation_for_moved_instance" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721652 - Assigned to Balazs Gibizer (balazs-gibizer) | 08:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Reproduce bug 1721652 in the functional test env https://review.openstack.org/511759 | 08:13 |
| openstack | bug 1721652 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Evacuate cleanup fails at _delete_allocation_for_moved_instance" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721652 - Assigned to Balazs Gibizer (balazs-gibizer) | 08:13 |
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| epalper | hi, I'm trying to nova vm from opnfv functest deployment seeing the following error in nova-compute.log | 11:53 |
| epalper | https://paste.ubuntu.com/25731708/ | 11:53 |
| epalper | could you please tell me what is going on during nova boot ? | 11:53 |
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| efried | alex_xu What's the best source of information for me to understand the semantics of shared/aggregates? | 12:04 |
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| efried | Is there a nice doc? Is it described in a spec? | 12:05 |
| efried | I pawed around specs a bit yesterday and couldn't find what I was looking for. | 12:05 |
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| efried | D'oh | 12:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Viktor Bass proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Fix command output in scheduler document https://review.openstack.org/511839 | 13:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Make TestRPC inherit from the base nova TestCase https://review.openstack.org/511842 | 13:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Remove old-style quotas code https://review.openstack.org/511689 | 13:22 |
| mriedem | melwitt: so did you and dan get to the bottom of https://launchpad.net/bugs/1722404 ? | 13:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1722404 in OpenStack Compute (nova) pike "Database transactions can fail with "TypeError: Can't upgrade a READER transaction to a WRITER mid-transaction" because of scatter_gather_cells" [High,In progress] - Assigned to melanie witt (melwitt) | 13:23 |
| melwitt | mriedem: not 100% sure yet but it makes sense and looks promising based on my local unit test reproducer. dansmith has a patch up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511651 | 13:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/nova master: Pick ironic nodes without VCPU set https://review.openstack.org/511844 | 13:25 |
| dtantsur | fallout from our inventory work in the end of Pike ^^^ vdrok FYI | 13:25 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: the theory is that the culprit is we only do a shallow copy.copy() of the context when we return a new RequestContext during cell targeting, and that makes hidden oslo.db state get shared across the threas | 13:26 |
| melwitt | *threads | 13:26 |
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| dansmith | melwitt: I'll write some tests for that | 13:30 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: dansmith: queried logstash on those warnigns, | 13:32 |
| mriedem | linked the results in the change, there are quite a few hits on both | 13:32 |
| dansmith | yep, I know of a couple places that will trigger it | 13:32 |
| dansmith | mriedem: well, one of the warnings that is.. do you see both? | 13:33 |
| mriedem | yes | 13:33 |
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| dansmith | okay, so that's actually good, | 13:35 |
| dansmith | because it plays into the theory that we leak that internal context somewhere across a target | 13:35 |
| melwitt | cool. yeah, the more I've thought about it, the more I think that's what it is | 13:38 |
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| mriedem | bauwser: replied in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501017/ | 13:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Add alternate hosts https://review.openstack.org/486215 | 13:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Add Selection objects https://review.openstack.org/499239 | 13:42 |
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| Laurene | mriedem: Hi,We're requesting +1/-1 reporting permission to Nova changes for IBM zVM CI. Can you help me to resolve it ? | 13:45 |
| Laurene | mriedem: We have posted a mail on the ML:http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123488.html | 13:46 |
| melwitt | mriedem, dansmith: I'm gonna be heading out for a weekend trip in about an hour, so just FYI | 13:46 |
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| fried_rice | melwitt You real busy til then? Feel like reviewing a spec? :* | 13:47 |
| dansmith | melwitt: okay | 13:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Convenience Allocations objects for compute https://review.openstack.org/511831 | 13:48 |
| fried_rice | superdan ^ step 1 in allocations-to-spawn | 13:48 |
| superdan | cool | 13:48 |
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| melwitt | fried_rice: hah | 13:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Convenience Allocations objects for compute https://review.openstack.org/511831 | 13:51 |
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| fried_rice | d'oh, forgot to git add test suite, fixed ^ | 13:51 |
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| superdan | mriedem: you want me to closes-bug: #1722404 on this patch right? | 13:54 |
| openstack | bug 1722404 in OpenStack Compute (nova) pike "Database transactions can fail with "TypeError: Can't upgrade a READER transaction to a WRITER mid-transaction" because of scatter_gather_cells" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1722404 - Assigned to melanie witt (melwitt) | 13:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/nova master: Pick ironic nodes without VCPU set https://review.openstack.org/511844 | 13:55 |
| dtantsur | this ended being a can of worms, but I guess that's the complete fix ^^^ | 13:55 |
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| mriedem | superdan: sure | 13:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Regenerate context during targeting, and sanity check some things https://review.openstack.org/511651 | 13:57 |
| superdan | mriedem: should we revert the previous patch or just note it on the bug? | 13:58 |
| mriedem | superdan: so the previous patch doesn't fix anything right? does it hurt anything? | 13:58 |
| mriedem | Laurene: done | 13:58 |
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| Laurene | mriedem:That's great! thanks very much! | 14:01 |
| melwitt | mriedem: it increases contention for the cell cache so should probably revert it | 14:01 |
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| superdan | mriedem: it doesn't fix anything, but it does mean that the threads get untargeted contexts and are required to target them themselves, which is a little less clean I think | 14:02 |
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| superdan | mriedem: I'm hoping that this will get rid of the transaction context warning, and yeah I can track down the re-targeting warning in later patches | 14:10 |
| superdan | mriedem: would you rather me separate the fix and the warnings so we don't backport the warnings? | 14:10 |
| superdan | probably makes sense | 14:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Regenerate context during targeting, and sanity check some things https://review.openstack.org/511651 | 14:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Add cell retargeting warnings https://review.openstack.org/511864 | 14:14 |
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| mriedem | yeah | 14:15 |
| mriedem | sapd_: are you around? | 14:15 |
| mriedem | sapd_: if you're still having that problem, can you see if https://review.openstack.org/511651 fixes it for you? | 14:15 |
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| mriedem | superdan: had a couple of nits in here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511651/4/nova/tests/unit/test_context.py | 14:16 |
| superdan | mriedem: I looked for assertis | 14:17 |
| superdan | ah yeah I see it | 14:17 |
| superdan | three uses among hundreds of is not none, so I missed it | 14:17 |
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| mriedem | leaving another comment, sec | 14:19 |
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| superdan | mriedem: hurry up, I want to get to saying "wtf" to a bunch of fried_rice's patch | 14:21 |
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| mriedem | done | 14:22 |
| mriedem | just was asking for a comment above the from_dict/to_dict dance, | 14:23 |
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| mriedem | i had to make sure that did the thing we wanted, | 14:23 |
| mriedem | and that it somehow didn't invalidate our caching | 14:23 |
| bauwser | mriedem: thanks for having taken time to summarize the outcome,+2d | 14:23 |
| mriedem | bauwser: thanks | 14:23 |
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| mriedem | sdague: happy with the changes here? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501017/ | 14:24 |
| gibi | Why does the compute manager only want to clean up an evacuated instance at startup if the virt driver still report such instance? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/d9212edb8fe8376c218cc40e0bee1540083b25e6/nova/compute/manager.py#L655 | 14:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Return Selection objects from the scheduler driver https://review.openstack.org/495854 | 14:25 |
| gibi | I could imagine situations when a compute is recovered in a way that the hypervisor does not see the instance any more but the allocations are still not cleaned up | 14:25 |
| sdague | mriedem: sold | 14:25 |
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| mriedem | gibi: hmm, probably just legacy behavior because the RT only cared about things running on it at that time | 14:27 |
| mriedem | the RT will pull instances based on host, and if the instance was evacuated to another host, the old recovered source RT won't find those instances and track them anymore | 14:27 |
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| gibi | but as the rt periodic task will not clean up these instances any more we have to clean up evacuated instance even if they are not visible to the hypervisor any more | 14:28 |
| gibi | at startup explicitly | 14:28 |
| gibi | I guess I need to create a functional test for this case as well | 14:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Send Allocations to spawn https://review.openstack.org/511879 | 14:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Regenerate context during targeting, and sanity check some things https://review.openstack.org/511651 | 14:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Add cell retargeting warnings https://review.openstack.org/511864 | 14:29 |
| mriedem | gibi: so i assume you're thinking about moving the RP allocation cleanup outside of that for loop and add a new for loop on the 'evacuations' instances right? | 14:30 |
| gibi | mriedem: something like that | 14:30 |
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| gibi | mriedem: the driver.destroy still need to be only run for the instances that are known by the hypervisor but the resource cleanup should run on all the evacuated instances | 14:30 |
| mriedem | gibi: yeah probably | 14:31 |
| gibi | mriedem: I will do this change separatly from the current fix | 14:31 |
| gibi | mriedem: as this one will need additional functional test tweaking | 14:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova-specs master: Spec for flavor description https://review.openstack.org/501017 | 14:34 |
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| mriedem | whoa, we've been translated https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-queens | 14:47 |
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| mdbooth | dansmith: We have to discuss the uuid migration thing in real time, because we're talking past each other in review :) You seem to be in violent agreement with me. | 14:54 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova master: Add debug information to metadata requests https://review.openstack.org/511895 | 14:55 |
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| superdan | mdbooth: we may agree, but your last comment says specific things I don't agree with | 14:57 |
| superdan | mdbooth: but sure, +1h we can | 14:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: fix cleaning up evacuated instances https://review.openstack.org/510938 | 15:08 |
| alex_xu | fried_rice: this may help you a little http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/newton/implemented/generic-resource-pools.html#scenario-1-shared-disk-storage-used-for-vm-disk-images | 15:08 |
| fried_rice | alex_xu Roger that, thanks. | 15:09 |
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| alex_xu | fried_rice: np | 15:09 |
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| alex_xu | fried_rice: there are some functional test for shared rp also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498737/2 | 15:10 |
| fried_rice | cool. | 15:11 |
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| mriedem | sdague: are you happy with the rebuild + keypair spec now? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375221/ | 15:12 |
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| sdague | mriedem: yes | 15:28 |
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| stephenfin | In jaypipes' absence, who could I ask to have a look at the PCI NUMA policies spec? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361140/ | 15:35 |
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| stephenfin | superdan, perhaps? ^ | 15:36 |
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| fried_rice | stephenfin Trade ya for https://review.openstack.org/510244 | 15:40 |
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| stephenfin | fried_rice: Deal (y) | 15:40 |
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| stephenfin | Heh :) | 15:41 |
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| mriedem | alex_xu: you can drop the -2 on this now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379128/ | 15:50 |
| mriedem | the blueprint is approved | 15:50 |
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| fried_rice | stephenfin Done. | 16:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova-specs master: Reset the instance keypair while rebuilding (spec) https://review.openstack.org/375221 | 16:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add serial numbers for local disks https://review.openstack.org/511466 | 16:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Regenerate context during targeting, and sanity check some things https://review.openstack.org/511651 | 16:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Add cell retargeting warnings https://review.openstack.org/511864 | 16:15 |
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| superdan | mriedem: the title of the commit needs to lose the "and sanity check some things" bit | 16:19 |
| superdan | I can edit in place if you want | 16:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Regenerate context during targeting https://review.openstack.org/511651 | 16:20 |
| superdan | boom ^ | 16:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Send Allocations to spawn https://review.openstack.org/511879 | 16:23 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: I have one outstanding question in my head on the live-migration cinder patch, otherwise I am +2 | 16:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Send Allocations to spawn https://review.openstack.org/511879 | 16:26 |
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| fried_rice | superdan ^ with the objects outta there (and DRYing deferred to the future first patch that uses the new kwarg) | 16:27 |
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| friedrice_injera | Goofy length limits. Should be at least 255c, if not a TEXT field. | 16:29 |
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| superdan | friedrice_injera: ack, I'll look in a bit when I get back from something | 16:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhangyangyang proposed openstack/nova master: Fix bug of py27 job failing on testtools.matchers._impl.MismatchError https://review.openstack.org/511919 | 16:36 |
| openstackgerrit | zhangyangyang proposed openstack/nova master: Fix bug of py27 job failing on testtools.matchers._impl.MismatchError https://review.openstack.org/511919 | 16:39 |
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| stephenfin | friedrice_injera: I got half way through that. Will finish bright n early Monday :) (it's nearly 6pm herE) | 16:49 |
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| mdbooth | dansmith: Ironic is a problem... | 17:17 |
| mdbooth | dansmith: But it's also potentially a problem in other virt drivers, as they might have default serial number behaviour. | 17:18 |
| mdbooth | I think we need to have the virt driver populate the serial number in instance device metadata. | 17:19 |
| mdbooth | And we'd suggest that bdm.uuid is the default. | 17:19 |
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| mdbooth | Incidentally, it's weird to me that the driver creates instance.device_metadata, but I guess it makes sense. | 17:20 |
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| mdbooth | (i.e. that's the current behaviour) | 17:20 |
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| mdbooth | So ironic would query the disk's current serial number and populate it in device.serial | 17:21 |
| mdbooth | Anyway, that's a much bigger change than I was anticipating this evening. I'll do that Monday. | 17:22 |
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| mriedem | superdan: boomshakalaka | 17:34 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: looking | 17:34 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: thanks, I think the current volume attach patch fixes the problem I found | 17:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: no sure what we should do about that, maybe just ignore it? | 17:35 |
| mriedem | i think i might know what you're talking about | 17:35 |
| mriedem | if i got tripped up on the same thing | 17:36 |
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| mriedem | superdan: some unrelated trickery here? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506419/20/nova/compute/manager.py | 17:38 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: yeah you fell into the same trap that i did | 17:42 |
| mriedem | finding where i pointed this out | 17:42 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: I am curious why its OK | 17:48 |
| mriedem | why which what is ok? | 17:48 |
| mriedem | so steve's live migration patch was relying on john's new style enablement patch to call attachment_update deep down in refresh_connection_info, | 17:49 |
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| mriedem | that was before i found out that attachment_update in refresh_conn_info puts the instance back into attaching status, and expects you to eventually call attachment_complete on it, | 17:49 |
| mriedem | even if you aren't attaching a volume | 17:49 |
| mriedem | so i think we have to change that in john's patch, and fix the now incorrect assertion/assumption in steve's patch | 17:50 |
| mriedem | i left some replies in stvnoyes' change | 17:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: OK, thanks. | 17:51 |
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| mriedem | so we really have to keep in mind now that attachment_update != os-initialize_connection | 17:52 |
| mriedem | because attachment_update changes the volume's attach status, where os-initialize_connection didn't | 17:53 |
| mriedem | this does make me wonder about the ceph creds refresh thing we talked about at the ptg, | 17:53 |
| mriedem | we were going to just always refresh the connection info to force cinder to give us new connection info in case anything has changed, | 17:53 |
| mriedem | now if we're not initiating that refresh on the storage backend, i don't know what would be if your ceph ip or creds change | 17:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, it changes that case some, we spoke about needing a new attachment for the connector changed case, maybe... | 17:54 |
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| mriedem | but how do we know if the connector changed? | 17:54 |
| mriedem | we don't - that's why we said at the ptg we'd just refresh when we have the chance, like during reboot | 17:54 |
| mriedem | that was the alternative to adding a new admin-only API to force a refresh | 17:55 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: I am quite a fan of making that explicit, almost feels like volume migrate | 17:55 |
| mriedem | i don't think we want to be randomly updating and completing attachments just to refresh the connection info | 17:55 |
| johnthetubaguy | ++ | 17:55 |
| mriedem | for a case that should rarely happen | 17:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, its a whoops I broke my cloud, please help me case | 17:56 |
| mriedem | we can still fix the bug for old style attachments like we talked about at the ptg, | 17:56 |
| mriedem | but we'll likely have to think of something else for new style attachments | 17:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | so I need to go and sort out food before sally looses the plot | 17:56 |
| mriedem | yup, go go! | 17:57 |
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| superdan | mriedem: replied | 18:30 |
| superdan | mriedem1: ^ | 18:30 |
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| mriedem | yeah it's just weird it's showing up in this change, | 18:32 |
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| mriedem | i.e. how did this pass the change that added this code in the py35 unit tests? | 18:32 |
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| superdan | oh jeez, yeah, this was in the wrong patch I see | 18:34 |
| mriedem | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGrNAB45CtY | 18:34 |
| superdan | oh, I bet it's because we never get in here | 18:34 |
| superdan | until this patch | 18:35 |
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| superdan | no that makes no sense | 18:41 |
| superdan | the patch below didn't show a passing py35 so maybe it's broken there too | 18:41 |
| superdan | running locally | 18:41 |
| mriedem | oh | 18:42 |
| mriedem | jeez | 18:42 |
| superdan | yup | 18:42 |
| superdan | breaks there | 18:42 |
| superdan | mah bad | 18:42 |
| mriedem | just putting my -1 stamp on here quick... | 18:42 |
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| mriedem | heh, when the gate is permabroken it's easy to assume there are no real failures | 18:43 |
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| superdan | yeah | 18:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Split get_allocations_for_instance() into useful bits https://review.openstack.org/511306 | 18:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Revert allocations by migration uuid https://review.openstack.org/498949 | 18:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor resource tracker to account for migration allocations https://review.openstack.org/506419 | 18:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make migration uuid hold allocations for migrating instances https://review.openstack.org/506420 | 18:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make live migration hold resources with a migration allocation https://review.openstack.org/507638 | 18:44 |
| superdan | mriedem: I hath done fixificated the brokennieal failboat | 18:44 |
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| mriedem | doneth | 18:52 |
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| superdan | woot | 18:57 |
| superdan | are we merging things today or not? | 18:58 |
| superdan | I have been otherwise focused and haven't noticed | 18:58 |
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| fried_rice | superdan Things were merging licketysplit this morning. But haven't seen anything in a while. | 19:13 |
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| superdan | figleaf: I thought I asked this last time but clearly didn't.. what is the reason for allocation_request being nullable in selection? | 19:17 |
| superdan | figleaf: I guess maybe if we didn't have any alternates? | 19:17 |
| figleaf | Because the selected host will have a null allocation_request | 19:17 |
| figleaf | that's necessary for the conductor to be able to distinguish an instance that has already claimed its resources on the host | 19:18 |
| figleaf | Without alternates it wouldn't be necessary | 19:18 |
| superdan | oh no alternates means no selection .. duh | 19:19 |
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| superdan | figleaf: okay so I think mriedem is right about us not being able to break the cachingscheduler | 19:22 |
| superdan | superdan: I really hate to put that mess in our shiny new object only to bridge the gap until we can nuke it, but we might not be able to avoid | 19:22 |
| superdan | it | 19:22 |
| superdan | lol, what is wrong with me | 19:22 |
| superdan | figleaf: that said, I think I'm good with this, modulo that being discussed on monday and resolved | 19:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Miguel Lavalle proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Use neutron's new port binding API https://review.openstack.org/375580 | 19:25 |
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| superdan | fried_rice: jenkins shat all over your patch | 19:30 |
| * superdan hands fried_rice a towel | 19:30 | |
| fried_rice | superdan Yeah, I'm not done with UT, shouldn't have removed WIP just yet. | 19:30 |
| superdan | okay | 19:30 |
| * fried_rice wipes patch down, needs another towel. | 19:30 | |
| fried_rice | superdan But the source side should be aight. | 19:31 |
| superdan | I commented | 19:31 |
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| figleaf | superdan: yeah, let's all discuss it together and get this settled. I'm pretty sure Jay won't be around, though, and it was his idea to drop the field, and I know he had his reasons | 19:38 |
| superdan | figleaf: okay I didn't see that conversation | 19:38 |
| superdan | figleaf: you think jay won't be around on monday? | 19:38 |
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| figleaf | He said he was taking a couple of weeks off in between jobs | 19:40 |
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| superdan | seriously? | 19:41 |
| figleaf | superdan: https://twitter.com/jaypipes/status/917561037980930048 | 19:42 |
| mtreinish | man, what a slacker :) | 19:42 |
| superdan | that's really unfortunate timing, for nrps and such | 19:43 |
| mriedem | don't tell mlavalle | 19:43 |
| mriedem | remember the 10/19 deadline | 19:43 |
| mriedem | we also said we'd just merge everything now | 19:44 |
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| figleaf | superdan: well, let's just have fried_rice take over nested RPs | 19:44 |
| mriedem | figleaf: superdan: i can pick up some review slack on the alternate hosts stuff on monday | 19:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Split get_allocations_for_instance() into useful bits https://review.openstack.org/511306 | 19:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Revert allocations by migration uuid https://review.openstack.org/498949 | 19:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor resource tracker to account for migration allocations https://review.openstack.org/506419 | 19:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make migration uuid hold allocations for migrating instances https://review.openstack.org/506420 | 19:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make live migration hold resources with a migration allocation https://review.openstack.org/507638 | 19:45 |
| mriedem | again? | 19:45 |
| superdan | mriedem: ^ had to fix a test that was added underneath me after rebase | 19:45 |
| superdan | mriedem: http://logs.openstack.org/19/506419/21/check/gate-nova-python27-ubuntu-xenial/5e75f1d/testr_results.html.gz | 19:46 |
| mriedem | heh those were my tests :) | 19:47 |
| superdan | yeah | 19:47 |
| superdan | figleaf: who else needs to be around for the discussion other than jay? | 19:49 |
| superdan | like can we hash it out now? | 19:49 |
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| figleaf | superdan: I guess anyone who knows what things people are doing with limits | 20:03 |
| superdan | well, anyone that uses cachingscheduler and something like ramfilter will need that to be whole | 20:04 |
| superdan | otherwise we guess in the caching scheduler with stale data, send to a compute node, and we don't even check to see if the thing can fit, right? | 20:04 |
| figleaf | I had no idea that it was being used like that until mriedem brought it up | 20:04 |
| superdan | that's how all the claiming on the compute node works, right? | 20:05 |
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| mriedem | i also fairly recently realized that myself, | 20:06 |
| mriedem | that if the RamFilter isn't enabled, you don't get the memory_mb limit in the limits dict which means the claim in the RT doesn't check ram at all | 20:07 |
| mriedem | same for vcpu and disk | 20:07 |
| mriedem | for filter scheduler and placement it's cool beans since we filter and claim up front via placement | 20:07 |
| figleaf | mriedem: so if deployers with caching scheduler add those filters, they will be ok? Or do they still need the limits sent down to compute? | 20:08 |
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| superdan | figleaf: no | 20:09 |
| superdan | figleaf: the filter adds the limit, which makes it down to compute, which is what causes compute to actually check/claim for that thing | 20:09 |
| superdan | figleaf: don't run ramfilter, you don't check ram on the compute | 20:09 |
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| superdan | figleaf: I mean, just adding the filter works _today_ | 20:09 |
| figleaf | won't ramfilter check ram on the host state? If there isn't enough, it's discarded, no? | 20:10 |
| superdan | figleaf: if you stop passing the limit down to compute, then compute never checks | 20:10 |
| superdan | figleaf: yes, but it checks based on the state of the data it has | 20:10 |
| superdan | figleaf: which is extra old in the case of caching scheduler | 20:10 |
| superdan | figleaf: that's why we have reschedules now, | 20:10 |
| superdan | for when the scheduler made a decision that is no longer correct by the time build starts on thecompute node | 20:10 |
| superdan | without the limit, compute doesn't even check to see if it still fits | 20:11 |
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| figleaf | superdan: so the problem is here: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/claims.py#L240-L241 | 20:13 |
| superdan | figleaf: yep | 20:13 |
| figleaf | If there is no limit, can't we just use total - used? | 20:13 |
| figleaf | Instead of unlimited? | 20:13 |
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| figleaf | Just add the line: limit = limit if limit else total | 20:14 |
| superdan | figleaf: we don't want that for placement | 20:14 |
| superdan | figleaf: you'd also need this level of logic: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/filters/ram_filter.py#L51-L51 | 20:15 |
| superdan | not just total-used | 20:15 |
| figleaf | But with placement, isn't compute claiming going away? | 20:15 |
| superdan | figleaf: yes, but not with cachingscheduler, that's the point here | 20:15 |
| superdan | and, | 20:15 |
| superdan | we will have old computes that wouldn't have your updated claim logic, even if you baked it all in down there | 20:15 |
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| figleaf | They will get Selection objects with empty allocation_request fields, right? | 20:17 |
| superdan | old computes can't | 20:17 |
| superdan | we can't send selection objects to old computes | 20:17 |
| figleaf | so conductor won't try to claim. Ugh | 20:17 |
| figleaf | Selection objects will be converted to dicts for old computes | 20:18 |
| figleaf | with empty limits | 20:18 |
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| superdan | but for the limits, the old computes will be getting empty limits dicts or something, which will mean you roll your scheduler/conductor to queens and all your pike computes stop checking | 20:18 |
| superdan | right | 20:18 |
| superdan | exactly that | 20:18 |
| figleaf | So if we add a limits field back in there, we can at least populate the limits dict for old computes, right? | 20:20 |
| figleaf | add to Selection object | 20:20 |
| superdan | yep, that's what we're saying | 20:20 |
| superdan | I hate to have to add such a field to our object, knowing we don't want that stuff in a cycle or two when that scheduler is gone, but I don't think we have an option | 20:21 |
| superdan | I'm quite sure jay knows about this stuff, so that's why I'm highly interested in his thinking on this, | 20:21 |
| figleaf | We could tell the caching scheduler users to take a hike :) | 20:21 |
| superdan | but I expect he's just missing the full picture | 20:21 |
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| superdan | figleaf: I think mriedem would get spanked :) | 20:22 |
| figleaf | "You want limits? I got your limits right here!" | 20:22 |
| superdan | also, the cachingscheduler users tell us "we'll drop it when you make the other stuff usable" | 20:22 |
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| figleaf | superdan: yeah, some comparisons would be good to have | 20:23 |
| superdan | I think it's not as straightforward.. | 20:23 |
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| superdan | with placement, total time and energy expended to boot should be faster, | 20:23 |
| superdan | but caching scheduler means fewer db calls for each schedule operation, | 20:24 |
| mriedem | yeah the huawei public cloud is using the caching scheduler for the same reason rax public cloud was, it outperforms the filter scheduler at scale b/c it's not hitting the database to pull 1000 compute node records on every select_destination request | 20:24 |
| superdan | even though it's more likely to send you into a reschedule tailspin | 20:24 |
| mriedem | huawei has set host_subset_size pretty high too so they are spreading the requests across computes, to avoid the reschedule collisions i think, | 20:24 |
| mriedem | i still have to find out more about how much of a problem reschedules are for them | 20:25 |
| mriedem | i noted that with placement, we're doing the ram/disk/cpu filtering in sql on the placement side, but they said that even with that it doesn't filter out enough nodes to make the db query to get compute nodes substantially smaller | 20:25 |
| figleaf | mriedem: too bad scheduling queues never caught on. They would be perfect for that use case | 20:25 |
| mriedem | so i suspect their limiting factor is not filtering on those resource classes, but other things like affinity | 20:25 |
| mriedem | affinity, numa, etc | 20:26 |
| mriedem | stuff we don't have working with placement yet | 20:26 |
| mriedem | i'm still trying to figure out what their most expensive filters are too | 20:26 |
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| superdan | mriedem: ugh, that's disappointing | 20:26 |
| mriedem | roughly speaking the scale they are trying to hit, from my limited knowledge so far, is 1024 computes per "cell", 30K nodes total | 20:27 |
| superdan | well, it's probably worth noting that that's pretty high compared to what most people do in a "cell" | 20:27 |
| mriedem | yeah, i just sent some lengthy emails about that last night, | 20:27 |
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| mriedem | suggesting they take a page from cern and shard their cells at 200 nodes each | 20:28 |
| superdan | yeah | 20:28 |
| mriedem | so 5 cells per "huawei cell" | 20:28 |
| mriedem | huawei cell = cascaded openstack | 20:28 |
| superdan | right | 20:28 |
| mriedem | == cells v1 | 20:28 |
| mriedem | :) | 20:28 |
| superdan | although it's worth noting that cellsv2 cells won't help them here | 20:28 |
| mriedem | but not cells v1 | 20:28 |
| superdan | because global scheduler | 20:28 |
| mriedem | yup | 20:28 |
| mriedem | i have no idea yet about how their top-layer scheduler picks a cell to send requests to | 20:29 |
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| mriedem | nor do i know how large cells v1 deployments like cern are going to deal with moving to the global flat scheduler like in cells v2 | 20:29 |
| mriedem | hopefully we'll get some feedback there someday | 20:29 |
| superdan | well, placement was supposed to be the answer | 20:29 |
| superdan | are we limiting the result size we're getting back from placement yet or are we still trying to pull the whole thing? | 20:30 |
| superdan | because if we're returning everything, that means our query to list compute nodes is huge | 20:30 |
| mriedem | cdent still has a spec up i believe | 20:30 |
| superdan | okay | 20:30 |
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| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504540/ | 20:31 |
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| fried_rice | Quick, let's merge this pile^Wstack before the zuulv3 cutover https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509029/ | 20:35 |
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| tasker | mriedem: sorry to bug you, but is there any movement on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/505771/ ? | 20:42 |
| mriedem | tasker: sorry not yet, it's on my list, but trying to get some stuff done with specs before the 10/19 deadline | 20:43 |
| tasker | roger | 20:43 |
| mriedem | i hope to have that fix polished up next week | 20:43 |
| tasker | thanks! | 20:43 |
| mriedem | give me a kidney punch early next week if you don't see movement | 20:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Young proposed openstack/nova master: 1:Implement ScaleIO image backend https://review.openstack.org/407440 | 20:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Young proposed openstack/nova master: Implement ScaleIO image backend https://review.openstack.org/407440 | 20:51 |
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| superdan | fried_rice: one more comment on your patch in case you were respinning right there | 21:03 |
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| superdan | mriedem would have shamed me post +2 if I had missed that | 21:03 |
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| mriedem | what patch? | 21:10 |
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| superdan | his allocation to spawn one | 21:11 |
| superdan | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511879/ | 21:11 |
| mriedem | not on my radar | 21:12 |
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| superdan | it would be just as soon as I put a +2 on it with potential test nits to complain about | 21:12 |
| mriedem | maybe, i do have that notification system setup | 21:12 |
| superdan | I know you have the world's most sophisticated AI developers working on tuning your get-dan-a-disagreement goals | 21:12 |
| mriedem | ha | 21:13 |
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| fried_rice | superdan Thanks, I was indeed respinning, though it's a longer road than I expected (gotta handle rebuild too). | 21:25 |
| superdan | ah yeah | 21:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Spec for volume-backed flavors https://review.openstack.org/511965 | 21:30 |
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| superdan | fried_rice: I think the ones above are wrong, but you can usually win on consistency, so fine to leave it I think | 21:35 |
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| fried_rice | superdan Roger that. (By "wrong" you mean poor style, not actually programmatically incorrect?) | 21:36 |
| superdan | wrong in the moral sense of the word | 21:36 |
| superdan | as in, "going to hell" | 21:36 |
| fried_rice | Heh, got it. | 21:36 |
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| mriedem | on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504540/ i thought we were also going to limit RPs in SQL, | 22:00 |
| mriedem | but i can understand that would get hairy quickly | 22:00 |
| mriedem | for testing i saw something in devstack about creating a bunch of fake computes, but i doubt it still works | 22:01 |
| mriedem | would be sweet if it did though | 22:01 |
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| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/lib/nova#L868 | 22:01 |
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| mriedem | fried_rice: ^ is something i bet you could get working in short order :) | 22:01 |
| fried_rice | mriedem Okay, I'm looking at sh code. What's the context? | 22:03 |
| mriedem | there is a flag in devstack to be able to say run like N number of fake driver nova compute services | 22:03 |
| mriedem | which would give you N compute nodes | 22:03 |
| mriedem | which would be cool for faking out a large deployment for scale testing the scheduler | 22:03 |
| mriedem | i know the fake driver stuff in devstack works, but haven't tested NUMBER_FAKE_NOVA_COMPUTE | 22:04 |
| mriedem | if that would be set to like 100 and actually work, it'd be sweet for testing scheduler performance changes, like cdents limit spec | 22:04 |
| fried_rice | mriedem Gotcha. I'll see if I can try it real quick. | 22:05 |
| mriedem | if not i'll fart around with it next week | 22:05 |
| mriedem | i will do all the things i said i'd ever do, next week | 22:05 |
| fried_rice | mriedem That said, I was thinking about that | 22:05 |
| fried_rice | (getting a biggish test platform to look at performancey things e.g. limits) | 22:06 |
| mriedem | fried_rice: http://forumtopics.openstack.org/cfp/details/21 | 22:06 |
| fried_rice | And really all a guy needs to do is have a placement service running and stuff it full of RPs. | 22:06 |
| mriedem | if you're going to sydney | 22:06 |
| mriedem | well, you also need compute nodes in the db | 22:06 |
| fried_rice | mriedem I'm not. | 22:06 |
| mriedem | doh | 22:06 |
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| fried_rice | Got two or three I'll be watching videos after. | 22:07 |
| fried_rice | mriedem I don't think I need compute nodes to do what I'm considering. | 22:07 |
| fried_rice | Cause we're talking about having the limiting done on the placement side | 22:07 |
| fried_rice | initially in the py code, eventually in the sql | 22:08 |
| fried_rice | but on the placement side for sure | 22:08 |
| fried_rice | So it seems like I could just stuff the db full of RPs and inventories, and then do plain ol' GET /allocation_candidates calls with a timer. | 22:08 |
| mriedem | oh yeah, for this, sure | 22:09 |
| mriedem | yup | 22:09 |
| mriedem | oh and btw, we also have some osc support for RPs too now | 22:09 |
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| mriedem | so you can create them and such - there are some changes up for stuffing the inventory and allocations which you could pull down | 22:09 |
| fried_rice | Yeah, was seeing that pucking around, wondering how far it had gotten. | 22:09 |
| mriedem | if you didn't want to do a bunch of curling | 22:10 |
| mriedem | it's moving | 22:10 |
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| fried_rice | Actually I gots me a little script to talk to placement. | 22:10 |
| mriedem | reminds me, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457533/ needs some small tweaks and then i'd +2 that | 22:10 |
| fried_rice | Though in this case I'd rather get in an interactive so I don't have to reconnect with every call. | 22:10 |
| fried_rice | Anyway, that's been a back-of-head thing for a couple weeks now. I'm a bit deep at the moment, and it's late on a Friday, so "next week". | 22:11 |
| mriedem | i'll see you next week then | 22:12 |
| mriedem | when all things will get done | 22:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: rp: remove CRUD operations on Inventory class https://review.openstack.org/509029 | 22:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: rp: streamline InventoryList.get_all_by_rp_uuid() https://review.openstack.org/509030 | 22:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: rp: remove dead code in Allocation._create_in_db() https://review.openstack.org/509031 | 22:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: rp: remove ability to delete 1 allocation record https://review.openstack.org/509032 | 22:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: rp: fix up AllocList.get_by_resource_provider_uuid https://review.openstack.org/509033 | 22:19 |
| superdan | wooo | 22:19 |
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