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| mwynne | Hey guys. I'm looking at the rabbit queues (rabbitmqctl list_queues | awk '$2 != 0{print}'), and noticed that the conductor queue is always increasing. Is this normal? Can I debug this somehow? | 00:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Refactor ServerMovingTests for non-move tests https://review.openstack.org/498596 | 04:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/502700 | 04:21 |
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| rabel | can someone review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/494169/ ? i think except from minor changes it is ready for weeks. | 07:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed openstack/nova master: Choose VMware datastore by the least provisioned space https://review.openstack.org/402632 | 08:02 |
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| rabel | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402632/10 seems to be ready for final review for months. could someone have a look at it? | 08:51 |
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| mewald | Hey guys, is there a chance the block_device_mapping table can be truncated / cleared without any problems? Nova should be able to get this info from Cinder via API, right? | 10:07 |
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| mewald | ok forget it, it was bullshit | 10:28 |
| mewald | I have a wrong / incomplete connection_info column in block_device_mapping table. New volumes are added with different connection_info JSON objects than: for example they include the secret_uuid. The lack of this uuid is currently breaking my set up . Any advice on how to fix this? | 10:34 |
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| bhagyashris | Hi all, Need guidance of How to write the upgrade script? | 11:58 |
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| boolman | I'm having problems adding iolimits on my vms. I tried adding quota on flavor,image,volume but it won't add iotune to the virsh DOM. output from image/volume/flavor show : http://ix.io/zMX | 13:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Intel Fortville Dynamic Device Personalization (DDP) https://review.openstack.org/503001 | 13:52 |
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| mriedem | bauzas: are you ok with this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499399/ - you said you were happy after the reno got updated | 15:14 |
| mriedem | i'd like to move this series along to get it backported to stable/pike | 15:14 |
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| mriedem | Kevin_Zheng: yes if you go overquota after the build_request is created when we recheck in conductor, the instance will be put into ERROR state https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conductor/manager.py#L1084 | 15:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Moving more utils to ServerResourceAllocationTestBase https://review.openstack.org/499539 | 15:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: factor out compute service start in ServerMovingTest https://review.openstack.org/503037 | 15:31 |
| mriedem | Kevin_Zheng: that's because we can't just delete the instance at that point in conductor | 15:31 |
| mriedem | because the use could be listing the instance via the BuildRequest before it goes to ERROR state | 15:31 |
| mriedem | *user | 15:31 |
| Kevin_Zheng | mriedem: I understand, but isn't that a big change to users? | 15:31 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | If large number of requests comes at the same time, in the past, I got OverQuota error | 15:32 |
| mriedem | well, depends on what happens before counting quotas if you passed the initial check in the api and then failed when committing the reservation down in the compute | 15:32 |
| Kevin_Zheng | But now, I got huge number of instances | 15:33 |
| Kevin_Zheng | in Error States | 15:33 |
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| mriedem | Kevin_Zheng: are you requesting multiple instances in the same request or concurrent requests? | 15:33 |
| Kevin_Zheng | concurrent requests | 15:33 |
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| mriedem | so in the past we'd create a reservation in the api and the quota check would include reservations | 15:34 |
| mriedem | now we don't have reservations, and we're counting based on the instances in the cells, | 15:35 |
| mriedem | i think what might be missing, and this might have come up in reviewing the series, was we don't count the build requests in the api db | 15:35 |
| mriedem | but i need to look | 15:35 |
| mriedem | unless melwitt is around | 15:35 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Yeah, that's also what I thought as a solution :) | 15:35 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: dansmith: do you remember talking about including a count of build_requests in the API during the quota check? | 15:37 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I think I remember talking about it | 15:37 |
| mriedem | right so if i create 20 instances in concurrent requests, i'll probably get 10 in ERROR state | 15:39 |
| mriedem | rather than 10 plus 10 failed requests with 409s | 15:39 |
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| mriedem | Kevin_Zheng: we should start with a bug report, can you open one? | 15:40 |
| Kevin_Zheng | mriedem: sure, I will | 15:40 |
| mriedem | check_num_instances_quota is just iterating the cells looking for instances, but at this point we don't have instances in the cells, we have build_requests in the api db | 15:40 |
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| mriedem | so we'd need something similar | 15:41 |
| mriedem | and that method is called from the api and conductor, and in the case of conductor we'd have to not count build_requests because at that point that conductor calls check_num_instances_quota we have the instances created in the cells | 15:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Spec to remove the hide server address config options Partial implement blueprint remove-configurable-hide-server-address-feature https://review.openstack.org/502516 | 15:43 |
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| mriedem | i see one issue with counting via build_requests is that when we count instances in the api, we also count cores and ram, which are fields on the instance in the db, | 15:47 |
| mriedem | with a build_request, we have a serialized instance record, so we can count total instances via build_requests, but not cores/ram...unless we used placement | 15:47 |
| mriedem | we want to use placement for counting quotas anyway...which we are going to talk about tomorrow morning | 15:48 |
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| rybridges | Hello. I had a question or 2 about vendordata in the Ocata release | 15:50 |
| rybridges | Are we still able to write our vendordata logic stuff into a driver? I am noticing this line in the ocata code base -> https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/ocata/nova/api/metadata/base.py#L745 Is vendordata not doable through a driver anymore? | 15:50 |
| mriedem | rybridges: you should be able to use the old style driver stuff | 15:51 |
| mriedem | in ocata | 15:51 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1716706 | 15:58 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1716706 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Should count instances in build requests when check quotas" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Zhenyu Zheng (zhengzhenyu) | 15:58 |
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| mriedem | Kevin_Zheng: thanks, added it here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-queens-cells | 16:03 |
| mriedem | L22 | 16:03 |
| mriedem | also, i realized we can't use placement in the api to count cores/ram | 16:03 |
| mriedem | since those allocations aren't created by then | 16:03 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | could use flavor instead | 16:04 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: we talked about counting build_requests but the consensus was to not because they're in a separate DB from instances and it would be possible for both to exist at the same time and result in a wrong count (doubled) | 16:09 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: when we check in the API they shouldn't exist at the same time, although that might be hard to know... | 16:11 |
| mriedem | couldn't we exclude by uuid or something? | 16:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: fake_notifier: Refactor wait_for_versioned_notification https://review.openstack.org/489637 | 16:11 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | mriedem, records of other existing instances, might be doubled | 16:12 |
| mriedem | select count(build_requests) where user/project; build a list of uuids; then iterate cells getting a count of instances where uuid is not in that list? | 16:12 |
| melwitt | mriedem: we check in conductor though (check in API is for cells v1 I believe) | 16:12 |
| mriedem | melwitt: yeah in conductor we wouldn't include the check for build_requests | 16:12 |
| mriedem | because we know they both exist at the time of that check | 16:12 |
| mriedem | melwitt: i'm not talking about the recheck | 16:12 |
| melwitt | then how is this happening in the API? | 16:12 |
| melwitt | let me just look | 16:13 |
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| mriedem | here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/api.py#L888 | 16:13 |
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| mriedem | so if i'm creating 20 instances concurrently, ^ will tell me there is one per request | 16:14 |
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| mriedem | then the recheck in conductor https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conductor/manager.py#L1001 will fail | 16:14 |
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| efried | mikal Did you merge rootwrap changes related to chown? | 16:14 |
| melwitt | mriedem: ah, right. thanks. I had forgotten what I did | 16:14 |
| rybridges | mriedom: Thanks for the reply. IF we use the old classloader stuff, what are our chances in the future of getting hosed by a full deprecation? | 16:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Berglund proposed openstack/nova-specs master: PowerVM Driver Integration (Queens) https://review.openstack.org/503061 | 16:15 |
| rybridges | Main thing is I dont want to do a bunch of work to get a driver working which is planned for deprecation next release | 16:15 |
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| mriedem | rybridges: that stuff is still around in pike, but it's being removed in queens | 16:16 |
| mriedem | rybridges: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397835/ | 16:17 |
| efried | mikal https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471972/31/etc/nova/rootwrap.d/compute.filters <== looks like it removes the chown rootwrap filter... but nova.utils.temporary_chown wasn't flipped over to using the dac_admin wrapper for chown. Was that on purpose, or an oversight? Handled in a followup? (<== esberglu) | 16:17 |
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| efried | edmondsw_ ^ | 16:17 |
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| mriedem | rybridges: novajoin is an example of a project that's using a vendordata v2 REST API service https://github.com/openstack/novajoin | 16:18 |
| mriedem | if that helps | 16:18 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: if we count build_requests and instances there, there could still be in-flight instances that have both a build_request and an instance object right? but in that case your suggestion to remove dupe UUIDs seems like it would work | 16:18 |
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| efried | esberglu Can you propose a patch in nova to flip temporary_chown over to using the dac_admin wrapper for chown; then patch that sucker into our CI and see if it fixes our world? | 16:19 |
| efried | esberglu It's possible mikal has that changed somewhere in the series (https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:%22Michael+Still+%253Cmikal%2540stillhq.com%253E%22+topic:hurrah-for-privsep+status:open) but I wasn't about to paw through all of those to find out. | 16:20 |
| mriedem | melwitt: count them where? conductor? | 16:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Berglund proposed openstack/nova-specs master: PowerVM Driver Integration (Queens) https://review.openstack.org/503061 | 16:20 |
| mriedem | melwitt: there are two calls - api and conductor. i'm saying count build_requests *and* instances in cells in the api, but only instances in cells when calling from conductor | 16:21 |
| mriedem | i don't think we even need dupe uuid filtering | 16:21 |
| mriedem | because when checking qouta via the api, the instance doesn't exist for a given build request | 16:21 |
| melwitt | mriedem: no, in the API where it is now. some other instances might be at the conductor stage and have both a build_request and an instance, right? | 16:21 |
| mriedem | oh yeah, good point | 16:21 |
| mriedem | separate concurrent request | 16:21 |
| mriedem | getting double counted | 16:21 |
| melwitt | yeah | 16:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Berglund proposed openstack/nova-specs master: PowerVM Driver Integration (Queens) https://review.openstack.org/503061 | 16:21 |
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| rybridges | mriedem: I realize there are examples. We would really like to just keep our classloader based approach though. It doesnt make a lot of sense to us why we are getting rid of classloaders. This message from bloomberg sum up my thoughts pretty well -> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2016-April/010179.html | 16:26 |
| rybridges | Why not just keep both approaches around and allow deployes to choose what works best for them? | 16:26 |
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| mikal | efried: looking | 16:27 |
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| mikal | efried: you're right, I've screwed that up. mriedem is standing next to me right now, I'll talk to him about it. | 16:28 |
| efried | mikal I asked esberglu to propose a patch for it -- unless you'd rather own it. | 16:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Berglund proposed openstack/nova-specs master: PowerVM Driver Integration (Queens) https://review.openstack.org/503061 | 16:29 |
| mikal | efried: it depends on if mriedem wants to roll forwards or backwards. It would be quick for me to roll it forwards though. | 16:29 |
| mikal | efried: which I'm happy to do the work for | 16:30 |
| edmondsw | better fix test_temporary_chown... that should have failed | 16:30 |
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| mikal | It would only fail in a tempest test | 16:30 |
| mikal | That's all mocked in unit tests | 16:30 |
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| efried | mikal Either way, it'd be neat to do it outside of the massive chain of privsep changes so we can get it in relatively quickly. It's blocking PowerVM CI at the moment :( | 16:31 |
| mikal | Yeah, we can do that | 16:31 |
| efried | mikal Okay, thanks. esberglu See ^^. mikal Do you want a LP bug? | 16:31 |
| mikal | Yes please | 16:31 |
| efried | rgr | 16:32 |
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| mriedem | rybridges: because classloading everything isn't a contract and we break it and then people that used hooks and classloaders complain when we change something internal to nova that breaks their unversioned API | 16:36 |
| esberglu | mikal: efried: I can open the LP bug | 16:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Berglund proposed openstack/nova master: PowerVM Driver: config drive https://review.openstack.org/409404 | 16:38 |
| mikal | esberglu: ta, I have a fix now but need to work through the unit test fallout | 16:38 |
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| mikal | efried: do you guys have heaps of users of temporary_chown in your code? Because I kind of want to remove that method now that you've brought it to my attention. | 16:42 |
| mikal | efried: because it makes me throw up in my mouth | 16:42 |
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| efried | mikal We only use it in image snapshot. | 16:45 |
| efried | mikal If you took it away, we would essentially have to duplicate the logic ourselves. | 16:45 |
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| efried | mikal https://github.com/openstack/nova-powervm/blob/fae3f96edb0c257468a93100796b338207a4cfc5/nova_powervm/virt/powervm/image.py#L45-L47 | 16:46 |
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| mikal | efried: I'd hand hold you through uswing privsep there instead | 16:47 |
| efried | Sorry, s/image snapshot/snapshot/. "image snapshot" doesn't make a lot of sense. | 16:47 |
| efried | mikal Mm, that's another idea, I suppose. Cause it's really the open that needs privs raised, eh? | 16:48 |
| mikal | efried: yeah, although I don't think privsep supp0orts passing off file descriptors (yet) | 16:48 |
| mikal | efried: but yeah, I'd find a way to drag you guys forward before nuking the thing | 16:49 |
| efried | mikal We could essentially just decorate that whole method with @nova.privsep.dac_admin_pctxt.entrypoint and remove the temporary_chown context manager. | 16:49 |
| efried | right? | 16:49 |
| mikal | efried: yes, but the method needs to move into the nova.privsep namespace as part of that decoration | 16:49 |
| efried | oh | 16:49 |
| mikal | efried: but yes, you could have nova.privsep.powervm | 16:49 |
| efried | uhm | 16:49 |
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| efried | This is our out-of-tree driver. | 16:49 |
| mikal | Let's fix the immediate problem and then talk the future thorugh | 16:49 |
| mikal | You at the PTG? | 16:50 |
| efried | We do have a toe in the nova.* namespaces, but at the moment its only purpose is redirecting to our virt driver entrypoint. | 16:50 |
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| efried | mikal Yeah, I talked to you yesterday morning in the bmvm room :) | 16:50 |
| efried | You want to meet up? | 16:51 |
| esberglu | mikal: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1716718 | 16:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1716718 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "chown commands failing (no rootwrap filter)" [Undecided,New] | 16:51 |
| mikal | LOL, I am an old man | 16:51 |
| mikal | Let's talk tomorrow in the nova thing, that way I can get the thing fixed first | 16:51 |
| efried | mikal ack | 16:51 |
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| efried | mikal Would you guys go for me adding the nova.privsep.powervm module in nova proper? We're in the process of integrating our driver in-tree, so we could argue it's for "future support of the snapshot operation". | 16:54 |
| prometheanfire | anyone around to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501533/ for the new castellan release | 16:54 |
| efried | Though tbh, we may not get snapshot into Queens. | 16:54 |
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| mikal | efried: so, I'm not a core, I'm basically a homeless guy no one has worked out how to get rid of | 16:58 |
| mikal | efried: but I would be surprised if my betters would accept that thing | 16:58 |
| mikal | efried: you're driver install process could add a file in that directory though... | 16:59 |
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| efried | mikal That *may* not be necessary. | 16:59 |
| efried | Ima play with it and see if I can make it work. | 16:59 |
| mikal | Cool | 16:59 |
| mikal | Let me know if you need a hand | 16:59 |
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| dansmith | mdbooth: where you at? | 17:09 |
| efried | mikal Like-a-this: https://review.openstack.org/503078 | 17:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Fix missed chown call https://review.openstack.org/503079 | 17:13 |
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| mikal | efried: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/503079/ is your fix | 17:14 |
| mikal | efried: can you test it with your driver please? | 17:14 |
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| sean-k-mooney | stephenfin: are you free for https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/placement-nova-neutron-queens-ptg, i think you would be interested in this | 17:19 |
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| efried | mikal Roger wilco. esberglu_lunch When you're back, please patch in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/503079/ and see if it resolves our snapshot snafu | 17:21 |
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| efried | esberglu_lunch It will also be instructive to see whether https://review.openstack.org/503078 passes *without* ^ | 17:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Send soft_delete from context manager https://review.openstack.org/476459 | 17:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: use context mgr in instance.delete https://review.openstack.org/443764 | 17:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Transform missing delete notifications https://review.openstack.org/410297 | 17:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/502700 | 17:38 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: there you go | 17:39 |
| dansmith | mriedem: what now? | 17:39 |
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| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501025/ | 17:39 |
| dansmith | oh thanks | 17:40 |
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| mriedem | sure doll | 17:42 |
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| mriedem | wait, i didn't say that | 17:42 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: chugging through the 4 patches here which need to go to pike would be nice https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499399/ - already have +2s on all of them, and one is already approved | 17:48 |
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| gmann | alex_xu: first things in no more extensions already done right - L207 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-queens | 17:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mathieu Gagné proposed openstack/nova master: Regenerate and pass configdrive when rebuild Ironic nodes https://review.openstack.org/503088 | 18:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add nova-manage db command for ironic flavor migrations https://review.openstack.org/501025 | 19:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Add recreate test for forced host evacuate not setting dest allocations https://review.openstack.org/503159 | 19:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Refactor out claim_resources_on_destination into a utility https://review.openstack.org/503160 | 19:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Create allocations against forced dest host during evacuate https://review.openstack.org/503161 | 19:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Add recreate test for evacuate claim failure https://review.openstack.org/503162 | 19:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Add a test to make sure failed evacuate cleans up dest allocation https://review.openstack.org/503163 | 19:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: De-duplicate two delete_allocation_for_* methods https://review.openstack.org/503164 | 19:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Remove dest node allocation if evacuate MoveClaim fails https://review.openstack.org/503165 | 19:59 |
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| mriedem | hmm, why is tox -r -e venv giving me index error lately? | 20:36 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: trace ? | 20:40 |
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| bauzas | also, does anyone have an handy documentation about explaining how to purge/archive our soft-deleted records ? context is https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1716593 that I want to invalidate | 20:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1716593 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "reservations table in nova mysql db grows constantly" [Undecided,New] | 20:41 |
| mriedem | nova-manage db archive_deleted_rows | 20:41 |
| bauzas | I can surely ask to run nova-manage, but a link could be awesome | 20:41 |
| bauzas | mriedem: yup I know | 20:41 |
| bauzas | mriedem: I just wanted some docs :) | 20:41 |
| mriedem | http://paste.openstack.org/show/620973/ | 20:42 |
| mriedem | bauzas: https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/cli/nova-manage.html#nova-database | 20:42 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: ta, adding it to the bug report | 20:43 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: interesting, trying locally | 20:44 |
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| mwynne | Hi guys. I'm trying to allocate an instance that would overcommit RAM but remain within my ratio and it fails. This document (https://docs.openstack.org/arch-design/design-compute/design-compute-overcommit.html) states that you can overcommit RAM, but the "Note" is basically saying you can't overcommit RAM. Am I missing something here? Something doesn't add up to me. | 20:45 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: hey, we're friends right? | 20:45 |
| dansmith | mriedem: um, yes? | 20:45 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501025/ <3 | 20:45 |
| cdent | mwynne: you’re not trying to allocate more virtual RAM than physical RAM are you? | 20:46 |
| mwynne | cdent: I'm trying to allocate a VM that would push me over the limit of how much total physical RAM I have on my compute nodes. | 20:47 |
| mwynne | But isn't that what overcommit is enabling me to do? | 20:47 |
| mwynne | within the specified ratio? | 20:47 |
| cdent | mwynne: for multiple vms, yes, but not for a single vm | 20:47 |
| mwynne | ? | 20:48 |
| bauzas | mriedem: oh snap, you just need to pass things after your venv call | 20:48 |
| bauzas | hence the indexerror | 20:48 |
| bauzas | something like tox -e venv -- do_something | 20:48 |
| mwynne | cdent: I have something like 4GB free and I'm trying to allocate a VM with 8GB. Is that not allowed? | 20:49 |
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| mriedem | stephenfin: do you know of a way with nova-manage to say if an arg is an option or an argument (required)? | 20:50 |
| cdent | mwynne: correct that is not allowed, since ocata | 20:50 |
| bauzas | mriedem: I do confirm running something like tox -evenv -- python -i myscript.py works like a charm | 20:50 |
| cdent | mwynne: and maybe before, but the mechanism for why has changed | 20:50 |
| mwynne | cdent: I'm running newton.. | 20:51 |
| mriedem | bauzas: never had to do that before | 20:51 |
| bauzas | ? | 20:51 |
| bauzas | I never saw tox -evenv without a following string | 20:51 |
| bauzas | :) | 20:51 |
| cdent | mriedem, bauzas, can you comment on the state of things in newton for mwynne ? | 20:51 |
| cdent | mwynne: in any case: whatever the limitations, you don’t want to do that | 20:52 |
| bauzas | about overcommitting ? | 20:52 |
| cdent | bauzas: the mechanism thereof prior to ocata | 20:52 |
| mwynne | cdent: So if I have VMs powered down they're still "taking up memory" from nova's perspective? | 20:52 |
| bauzas | well in Newton, we did changed a bit where allocation ratios were defined | 20:52 |
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| bauzas | nova.conf ratio opts were defaulted to be read on compute nodes, else in the scheduler | 20:53 |
| bauzas | apart from that, I don't see a problem with defining a ratio of 1.5 for the RAM and trying to allocate more than what you have | 20:53 |
| bauzas | but asking for 8GB when you have a ratio of 1.5 and a physical host of 4GB isn't mathematically acceptable :) | 20:54 |
| bauzas | I remind the default ratios : 16.0 for CPU, 1.5 for RAM and 1.0 for disk (well, the latter isn't really fully workable) | 20:55 |
| mwynne | bauzas: The default for newton seems to be 0.0 for RAM | 20:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add nova-manage db command for ironic flavor migrations https://review.openstack.org/501025 | 20:56 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: ^ | 20:56 |
| bauzas | mwynne: that's a flag for expressing that you need to define your ratios in the compute nova.conf | 20:56 |
| bauzas | mwynne: but programmatically, it'll respect 1.5 | 20:56 |
| bauzas | (if 0.0 is set by defaultà) | 20:57 |
| mwynne | bauzas: Ok. I've been looking at the number of free huge pages on my compute nodes, and comparing that to what "nova hypervisor-stats" says, and the math doesn't check out. | 20:57 |
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| mwynne | I have tons of free pages on my nodes, but that cmd says I have 4 free gb of RAM. Something doesn't seem right there. | 20:58 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/502700 | 20:58 |
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| mwynne | (And yes I'm using a flavor with HP enabled) | 20:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Handle keypair not found from metadata server using cells https://review.openstack.org/476122 | 20:59 |
| bauzas | mwynne: sec, you want to use huge pages ? | 20:59 |
| mwynne | yes | 20:59 |
| bauzas | okay, that's a separate thing | 20:59 |
| * bauzas looking for some pointers | 21:00 | |
| mwynne | Ah, ok. Sorry.. | 21:00 |
| bauzas | no worries, huge pages in Nova isn't tracked the same way that a regular RAM consumption | 21:00 |
| bauzas | mwynne: https://docs.openstack.org/nova/pike/admin/huge-pages.html is the one I have in mind | 21:01 |
| bauzas | mwynne: have you followed that and modified your flavors by mentioning the mem_page_size for the instance you want to create ? | 21:02 |
| mwynne | yes | 21:02 |
| bauzas | even if that's a Pike doc, the flavor thing is identical in Newton | 21:02 |
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| mwynne | Yeah, I've done that. | 21:02 |
| bauzas | mwynne: ok, so you did that, you wanna boot an instance and you end up having NoValidHosts ? | 21:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Create allocations against forced dest host during evacuate https://review.openstack.org/499399 | 21:03 |
| mwynne | Insufficient compute resources: Requested instance NUMA topology cannot fit the given host NUMA topology | 21:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Add recreate test for evacuate claim failure https://review.openstack.org/499874 | 21:03 |
| bauzas | mwynne: I actually wonder if huge pages supports and ratios can be mixed up | 21:03 |
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| mwynne | bauzas: I deleted some unused vms and then I could spawn it. | 21:03 |
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| bauzas | in general, people using huge pages are not wanting to have overallocated instances | 21:04 |
| bauzas | so they default ratios to 1.0 | 21:04 |
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| bauzas | from what I remember about the huge pages implementation, I know we don't really care of any overallocation | 21:04 |
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| bauzas | so I wouldn't be surprised if that wouldn't fit | 21:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Add a test to make sure failed evacuate cleans up dest allocation https://review.openstack.org/499877 | 21:05 |
| mwynne | Yeah. I assumed that.. What I want to be able to do is basically this: Use heat to spin up a really big stack, consuming almost all my RAM. When I'm finished with it, just power them all off so I don't have to re-deploy each time. I was hoping that having them powered down meant I could deploy and use other vms until I want to spin them all back up again. | 21:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Remove dest node allocation if evacuate MoveClaim fails https://review.openstack.org/499878 | 21:05 |
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| melwitt | mwynne: there was a bug around that but the fix was backported to newton https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1635367 | 21:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1635367 in OpenStack Compute (nova) ocata "Ram filter is broken since Mitaka" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem) | 21:06 |
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| melwitt | mwynne: are you using at least version 14.0.8? | 21:06 |
| mwynne | melwitt: how can I check that? | 21:06 |
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| mwynne | melwitt: 14.0.7... Nooooooo! haha | 21:07 |
| melwitt | mwynne: okay, hopefully if you pull down 14.0.8 it will fix your problem but I'm not 100% sure that's what's causing what you're seeing with NUMA etc | 21:08 |
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| bauzas | melwitt: oh good catch, I forgot it | 21:09 |
| mwynne | What's the best way to update? I'm running RDO packages. | 21:09 |
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| bauzas | mwynne: just upgrade your packages if you're on a 14.0.z version already | 21:09 |
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| bauzas | and restart your services | 21:09 |
| mwynne | bauzas: Ok. I figured.. Just wasn't sure if that would break stuff :S | 21:10 |
| bauzas | but yeah, I just feel we don't mix up overcommits and huge pages | 21:10 |
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| mwynne | bauzas: Ok. I' | 21:11 |
| mwynne | I'll see if updating helps. But I think you might be right about huge pages... | 21:11 |
| mwynne | Thanks for all the help guys. I appreciate it :) | 21:11 |
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| efried | mikal FYI, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/503078/ totally doesn't work. I had a feeling... it's the difference, when we hijack the namespace, of putting our code in a new module within an existing package, versus making a new package. | 21:26 |
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| efried | mikal I suppose I could try structuring it as nova/virt/powervm/__init__.py <== with the code in (or at least exported from) here. | 21:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Fix missed chown call https://review.openstack.org/503079 | 21:35 |
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| efried | mikal (and esberglu edmondsw) we'll see if this flies: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/503078/ | 21:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/502700 | 21:37 |
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| med_ | did you just find that by grep'ing for dangling chowns? | 21:38 |
| med_ | smells that way | 21:38 |
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| efried | mikal BTW, why do we have to be in the nova.privsep namespace to make this work? | 21:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/os-vif master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/502708 | 21:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add nova-manage db command for ironic flavor migrations https://review.openstack.org/501025 | 21:41 |
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| mikal | efried: so privsep has a check for the namespadce of escalated methods, and they _must_ be in nova.privsep | 21:55 |
| mikal | efried: but can't you just drop a single file into that directory as part of your install process? | 21:55 |
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| mikal | efried: it stops us accidentally escalating the capabilities of some random method I suppose | 21:55 |
| mikal | efried: but it was an oslo implementation decision two years ago | 21:56 |
| efried | mikal Unless I figure out a way to hijack the namespace, like I'm doing :) | 21:56 |
| efried | mikal As for dropping a file in... | 21:56 |
| efried | That sounds really ew to me. | 21:56 |
| efried | Unprecedented at least in our driver. | 21:56 |
| efried | If it was a conf or something, that'd be different. | 21:56 |
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| mikal | So, there's a privsep session in the nova track. We should make sure we dig into this then. | 22:04 |
| mikal | I've explicitly added it to the agenda | 22:05 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: +2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501025/ | 22:12 |
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| bauzas | I'm confused on triaging https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1716344, help needed | 22:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1716344 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Nova-API sometimes uses Keystone's public endpoint" [Undecided,New] | 22:12 |
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| bauzas | AFAICU, we get the endpoint URL by calling the service catalog, or if the service catalog is passed with the context | 22:12 |
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| bauzas | looks to me the bug is a possible misconfig, but I don't know which specific conf opt gets the endpoint to call for getting the service catalog, or where it gets that specific value | 22:13 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: looks to me a known problem, right ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1715569 | 22:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1715569 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Live migration fails with an attached non-bootable Cinder volume (Pike)" [Undecided,New] | 22:26 |
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| bauzas | mdbooth: does the above ^ sound a bell to you ? | 22:28 |
| bauzas | anyway, let's triage it as valid and we'll see | 22:29 |
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| gmann | alex_xu: johnthetubaguy stephenfin did you see this, it looks cool now - https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/configuration/policy.html | 22:40 |
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