Friday, 2017-09-08

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova stable/pike: Allow setting up multiple cells in the base TestCase  https://review.openstack.org/50181800:46
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova stable/pike: Make ConductorTaskTestCase run with 2 cells  https://review.openstack.org/50181900:48
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Enable cold migration with target host  https://review.openstack.org/48903100:50
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: List/show all server migration types (2/2)  https://review.openstack.org/45948300:52
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Microversion 2.54 - List/Show all server migration types  https://review.openstack.org/43083900:52
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openstackgerritliusheng proposed openstack/nova master: Correct the out-of-date flavor doc reference  https://review.openstack.org/50192101:53
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Fix broken URLs  https://review.openstack.org/50140202:17
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openstackgerritShunli Zhou proposed openstack/nova master: Transform servergroup.create notification  https://review.openstack.org/45402302:35
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openstackgerritPhilip Choi proposed openstack/nova master: Add warning message for cache_utils connection failure  https://review.openstack.org/50192802:52
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openstackgerritPhilip Choi proposed openstack/nova master: Add warning message for cache_utils connection failure  https://review.openstack.org/50192802:56
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openstackgerritkangyufei proposed openstack/nova master: Typo error about help resource_classes.inc  https://review.openstack.org/50193003:04
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mnaserhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike+topic:bug/1715462 -- everything is finally passing, appreciate a review from anyone on the stable team to get this pike bug fixed :>03:25
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openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Remove two testing stubs which aren't really needed.  https://review.openstack.org/50193903:54
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Enable cold migration with target host(1/2)  https://review.openstack.org/40895503:57
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openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup unused get_iscsi_initiator.  https://review.openstack.org/50194404:31
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Enable cold migration with target host(2/2)  https://review.openstack.org/40896405:34
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Microversion 2.54 - Enable cold migration with target host  https://review.openstack.org/40670705:59
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: Add parameters in cold migrate action  https://review.openstack.org/41004206:33
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Abort Cold Migration  https://review.openstack.org/33473206:49
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jsheerenhi all, i'm curious as to why no special characaters like a dot (.) are allowed for the ssh keypair names08:19
jsheerenif i check the code: safe_chars = "_- " + string.digits + string.ascii_letters08:19
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jsheerendoes anyone have an idea as to why?08:19
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openstackgerritHironori Shiina proposed openstack/nova master: virt/ironic: Implement rescue and unrescue  https://review.openstack.org/41648708:29
bauwserjsheeren: here, I'm just guessing, but if you look at https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/ec0a65d81fd11d26be77b45827a4dd7c77711675 it seems that's because AWS was only accepting that08:34
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bauwsersince we did cut the EC2 API previously, I don't think it's still a problem08:35
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yglhi all08:49
ygli need some help08:49
openstackgerritRick van de Loo proposed openstack/nova master: Allow dots in keypair filenames  https://review.openstack.org/50200008:49
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jsheerenbauwser: thanks, Rick proposed a patch that fixes our issue. :-)08:59
bauwserjsheeren: you can't do that directly, you'll require an API microversion08:59
jsheerenah09:00
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bauwserjsheeren: I'll provide some comments to that, but the fix will require a Nova spec that will desribe the API change as we need to keep a consistent behaviour for our API09:00
jsheerenok, thanks09:01
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Fix the ocata config-reference URLs  https://review.openstack.org/50201709:35
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stephenfinbauwser, gibi: Could you folks look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501342/, please?10:43
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Our CI systems experience a hickup, no new jobs are started. Please stay tuned and wait untils this resolved.10:47
gibistephenfin: looking...10:54
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openstackgerritChenghui Yu proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Fix usage of method isotime  https://review.openstack.org/50204311:06
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gibistephenfin: I left some comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501342/11:37
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: reno: note that custom resources are not supported  https://review.openstack.org/50052111:43
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openstackgerritElod Illes proposed openstack/nova master: Transform aggregate.add_host notification  https://review.openstack.org/39621012:15
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openstackgerritLajos Katona proposed openstack/nova master: Extend ServerMovingTests with custom resources  https://review.openstack.org/49739912:23
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Transform servergroup.delete notification  https://review.openstack.org/48390212:58
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Transform servergroup.delete notification  https://review.openstack.org/48390213:01
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mriedemsdague: you want to take a gander at this osc-placement plugin post_test_hook change to run functional dsvm tests? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452122/ - it's modeled after the one in novaclient, with a couple of odd differences for env vars which i don't quite follow, but don't seem to be a problem either13:09
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sdaguemriedem: +A13:09
mriedemare you core on project-config?13:10
sdagueyes13:10
mriedemwell do i have a deal for you13:10
sdague:)13:10
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mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/501884/13:10
mriedemmoves that functional job from experimental to non-voting check13:10
sdaguecool13:10
sdaguenow, we just need zuul to come back online13:10
openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova master: fake_notifier: Refactor wait_for_versioned_notification  https://review.openstack.org/48963713:11
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.resize.error notifications  https://review.openstack.org/41788213:16
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Add documentation for emulator_thread_policy  https://review.openstack.org/50172113:20
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Split flavors docs into admin and user guides  https://review.openstack.org/50134213:20
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Add documentation for cpu_realtime, cpu_realtime_mask  https://review.openstack.org/50205613:20
stephenfingibi: All good point. Addressed above ^13:21
stephenfintbh, that whole section needs a thorough looking over. I'll do it after the PTG but this is a good start13:22
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gibistephenfin: totally agree. this is a good start so I'm +213:27
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stephenfinExcellent, thanks gibi :)13:29
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mriedemjohnthetubaguy: policy question on scope checking,13:37
mriedemthis is something that continues to confuse me about whether or not non-admins can see extra specs for a flavor13:37
mriedemdefault policy is admin or owner13:37
mriedem"os_compute_api:os-flavor-extra-specs:index": "rule:admin_or_owner"13:37
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mriedembut when we check the scope, we don't pass the flavor in, and the flavor doesn't have a user_id/project_id (owner) anyway13:38
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/flavors_extraspecs.py#L5313:38
mriedemso it's unclear to me if a non-admin can by default view flavor extra specs13:38
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johnthetubaguymriedem: just reading back your note13:43
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johnthetubaguymriedem: we have a default target of {project_id: context.project_id, user_id:context.user_id}, basically making the scope check a no op13:44
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johnthetubaguymriedem: well my no-op I mean always returns true13:45
johnthetubaguys/my/by/13:45
mriedemok so basically anyone can view flavor extra specs by default13:45
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: nodepool issue related to bad images has been resolved, builds should be coming back online soon. Restarted gerrit due to reasons. Happy Friday.13:47
johnthetubaguymriedem: it seems that way, I am just checking the DB code13:47
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johnthetubaguymriedem: it looks like we join extra_specs for everyone here: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.py#L501713:48
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mriedemyup13:49
mriedemwell, if the flavor is in a cell still, but yeah13:49
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mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/flavor.py#L295 is the new hotness13:49
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johnthetubaguymriedem: oh right, we only hit the other for the unmigrated (probably no one) case13:50
mriedemyeah we can remove that old compat now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460377/13:50
mriedembut anyway, that answers my question13:50
johnthetubaguyI see what you did there13:51
mriedem:)13:51
mriedemit was not subtle13:51
johnthetubaguyeffective though13:51
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mriedemi'm getting some questions about extra specs vs scheduler hints and thinking about things like what is discoverable etc13:51
mriedemand now that i think about it, we really have no discoverable way for an end user to know what scheduler hints are available in a nova installation do we13:52
johnthetubaguyI know sfinucan once expressed and interest doing an image meta like thing for extra specs13:52
mriedemi assume we have just always relied on clouds to document what they support for scheduler hints13:52
openstackgerritMerged openstack/osc-placement master: tests: add a hook for functional testing in the gate  https://review.openstack.org/45212213:52
johnthetubaguyyeah, we did talk about getting alaski to look at a way to discover available scheduler hints, so we could do API validation on them13:53
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mriedemwe == rackspace?13:53
johnthetubaguylike have filters and weights register what they support, etc13:53
johnthetubaguywe as in upstream years ago13:53
johnthetubaguyin some summit session13:53
mriedemok13:53
mriedemwe have https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/schemas/scheduler_hints.py13:53
mriedembut the hints in there might not be enabled in the filters,13:54
mikalDo I really have to get up? Or can I just go back to bed?13:54
mriedemand you can load your own13:54
mriedemmikal: just work from bed13:54
johnthetubaguyhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/schemas/scheduler_hints.py#L6713:54
johnthetubaguyyeah13:54
mriedemlike a monarch13:54
mriedemking mikal13:54
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mikalmriedem: I can't. I have to go to a big room in the urine district and call people liars13:55
mikalmriedem: its a community service that I offer13:55
mriedemso you're going to go yell at people in a public bathroom?13:56
mriedemi'm unclear on what australians refer to as "the urine district"13:56
mikalmriedem: the urine district is a region of San Francisco13:56
mikalmriedem: most of the city as best as I can tell13:56
mriedemoh i see13:56
mriedemthat's less interesting13:56
johnthetubaguyI remember a smell there, but I just hoped it was chlorine in the water with lots of water sprinkler or something13:57
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mikaljohnthetubaguy: ummm, no13:58
mikaljohnthetubaguy: also, don't ask why the BART escalators don't work, and definitely don't touch them13:58
johnthetubaguymikal: ...true13:58
stephenfinYay, johnthetubaguy is back13:58
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* stephenfin waves13:58
mikaljohnthetubaguy: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Human-waste-shuts-down-BART-escalators-3735981.php13:58
johnthetubaguyyeah, I am around, now an then :)13:59
* stephenfin then wonders why people keep looking at him funny in the office13:59
* johnthetubaguy waves back13:59
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gibibauwser: you were +2 on this patch before, do you still like it? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49859614:01
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: the discoverable bit there was kicked around14:01
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sdaguebut it was all a concept conversation14:01
bauwsergibi: sure, I just have a shit of paperwork coming in litterally by the day before I'm traveling to the PTG, yay \o/14:01
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johnthetubaguysdague: that sounds right14:02
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gibibauwser: sorry to hear that. Don't worry about that patch now. I can ping you during the PTG14:03
bauwsergibi: no, I just briefly reviewed it, +Wd14:03
bauwserthe modifications weren't that huge14:03
boolmanwhen booting a nova instance and not specifying the volume, should nova then create a volume based on the flavor and image_type ?14:03
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mriedemgdi our docs search is terrible now14:05
mriedemsearching for "flavor extra specs" in docs.o.o mostly gives you forum questions now14:06
johnthetubaguyeek14:06
gibibauwser: thanks!14:06
bauwsermriedem: you already pointed that out in a ML thread, right?14:06
bauwserno answer yet ?14:06
bauwser(AFAICR)14:06
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mriedembauwser: yes, and sdague started something to define an in-scope search vs a global search14:07
mriedemin-scope meaning, within *these* docs14:07
bauwserk14:07
mriedemlike the nova docs14:07
johnthetubaguyboolman: I think you want #openstack, but look at https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/#create-server and "block_device_mapping_v2.destination_type" basically we only create volumes when requested directly, AFAIK14:07
bauwseryeah, looks a good idea :)14:07
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sdaguemriedem: that was merged, I don't know if it was released yet14:08
boolmanjohnthetubaguy: ye sry, I read #topic after I posted.14:09
johnthetubaguyboolman: no worries14:09
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Set regex flag on ostestr command for osprofiler tests  https://review.openstack.org/50184214:10
mriedemthere are two things wrong with the note at the top of this page https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/admin/flavors.html14:13
mriedem1. wrong policy rule now14:14
mriedem2. the horizon thing was changed in pike i think14:14
mriedemrobcresswell: ^ for "The Dashboard simulates the ability to modify a flavor by deleting an existing flavor and creating a new one with the same name." what exactly does horizon do now? just warn you? or does it not allow you to 'edit' a flavor that is tied to an instance?14:14
mriedemah https://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/horizon/pike.html#upgrade-notes14:15
johnthetubaguymriedem: wow, there is a lot more documented there than I expected to see14:15
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mriedem"The ability to edit flavors is disabled by default. See ENABLE_FLAVOR_EDIT in the settings documentation for more information."14:15
stephenfinmriedem: Seeing as you're looking at that file, want to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501342/214:17
sdagueTheJulia / dtantsur: this working as designed - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1715646 - or a real bug14:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1715646 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Compute host for ironic is not mapped to a cell if no ironic node is created" [Undecided,New]14:17
stephenfinThis is the first step. I'm happy to clean that item above as a follow up14:17
dtantsursdague: it's a bug, and I thought dansmith fixed it some time ago..14:18
stephenfinjohnthetubaguy: Unfortunately a lot of it is wrong :( especially the stuff around extra_specs14:18
johnthetubaguystephenfin: joys14:18
stephenfinI've trying to clean both that, and the specs I'm having to review for background info, this week14:19
sdaguedtantsur: you able to ask enough questions on that bug to figure out what is going on?14:19
dansmithdtantsur: sdague: It's working as designed, we can't put compute node records in without anything reported from ironic.. that's a fundamental thing14:19
stephenfinExtra specs suuuuuuuck14:19
sdaguedansmith: ok14:19
dtantsurdansmith: except that it creates a horrible user experience14:19
dansmithsdague: we write 1:1 ironic node reported from ironic into the compute nodes table.. if zero are reported (or we can't do the list) then we have nothing to write14:19
dansmithsdague: there is a periodic task you can enable on scheduler that will run discovery every once in a while, which is a workaround14:20
dansmithdtantsur: I dunno what to say.. I can't report things I don't know are there14:20
sdaguedansmith: ok, cool, I'll close as working as designed14:20
dtantsurthen we have to document this periodic task a mandatory for ironic..14:20
dtantsurs/a/as/14:20
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dtantsurdansmith: https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/62878ef5a6c9f6a2c727c91397830387425c4d3714:22
dtantsurisn't it fixing precisely that?14:23
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dtantsurhmm, maybe not actually14:24
openstackgerritElod Illes proposed openstack/nova master: Transform aggregate.remove_host notification  https://review.openstack.org/39621114:24
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dtantsurdansmith: this means that we should either document running nova-manage after adding every ironic node/bulk of nodes or document using this periodic task, right?14:25
mriedemstephenfin: "What flavors are why they are used."?14:25
stephenfin*and14:27
stephenfindamn14:27
stephenfin*What are flavors and why are they used14:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Typo error about help resource_classes.inc  https://review.openstack.org/50193014:28
mriedeminspur is going on a spell check tear i've noticed recently14:29
mriedem^14:29
mriedemthat's the 2nd patch i've seen from the same company for the same typo14:29
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Split flavors docs into admin and user guides  https://review.openstack.org/50134214:30
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mriedemwho wants to get these other two stable/pike high severity fixes? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1715462+branch:stable/pike14:31
sdaguelooking14:31
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sdaguemriedem: +2 on both of those14:32
mriedemthanks14:32
mriedemgibi: i think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/500521/ might be better in some kind of 'limitations' doc14:32
mriedemgibi: the ironic and fgpa thing was noted in the spec as an example, but so was shared IP allocation pools in the original resource providers spec back in i think mitaka14:33
mriedemthose are just examples, not declarations of what we support today14:33
gibimriedem: but we don't have limitation doc I assume14:34
mriedemgibi: no, but that's easy to change14:35
gibimriedem: but I understand that release notes are not the good place either14:35
mriedemgibi: i left some comments in the patch with more detailed thoughts14:35
mriedemi think we could fit something in here https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/placement.html14:35
mriedemwe have overview, deployment, upgrade notes (per release), and REST API microversion history, we could also have a Limitations section14:36
gibimriedem: I like this idea14:36
mriedemi like that you like this idea14:36
gibimriedem: I will try type up a patch during my flight tomorrow14:37
mriedemcool, thanks14:38
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gibithanks for the feedback14:38
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gibimriedem: also thanks for the ML reply on my notification question, elod will start working on adding the new interface_attach notification next week14:40
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mriedem\o/14:43
gibiI'm logging off for the weekend. See you in Denver14:44
mriedemhave a good one14:44
gibithanks14:44
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openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Move hash ring initialization to init_host() for ironic  https://review.openstack.org/50208214:58
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Fix AZ related API docs  https://review.openstack.org/45665515:03
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sdaguestephenfin: I think you dropped a word - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45665515:11
sdagueafter that, +215:11
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Fix AZ related API docs  https://review.openstack.org/45665515:12
stephenfinsdague: Second time I've done that today :( Done15:12
sdague+215:12
stephenfinta15:12
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mriedemstephenfin: couple nits inline there15:16
* stephenfin looks15:16
mriedem"Typically, you use availability zones to arrange OpenStack compute hosts into logical groups."15:17
mriedemyou (the end user?) doesn't actually arrange the compute hosts15:17
mriedemthe admin does that with host aggregates15:17
mriedemand labels them with AZs that the end user (non-admin) can then use for isolation15:17
mriedembut maybe i'm splitting hairs15:18
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Fix AZ related API docs  https://review.openstack.org/45665515:22
stephenfinmriedem: I agree, and I think I've addressed it15:22
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mriedemcool, +215:27
mikalsdague: can I get a +W on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472229/ please? It has two +2's but the +W fell off when we went around a corner too fast.15:28
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sdaguemikal: done15:31
mikalTa15:31
sdaguemikal: so, is there actually a privsep discussion area somewhere carved out yet for PTG?15:32
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mriedemit's in the etherpad15:36
mriedemhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-queens15:36
mriedemi don't have a specific time slotted for that15:36
sdaguemriedem: right, it's on the big list, but not with a timeslot15:36
sdagueI was also wondering if it was in the class of things to have mon/tues time somewhere15:37
sdaguemostly to get folks more introduced to the idea15:37
mriedemit's not in the mon/tues xp stuff as far as i know15:37
mriedemunless mikal is driving that15:37
mriedemfriday is the default timeslot for 'everything else'15:37
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Rework man pages  https://review.openstack.org/50210515:44
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Rename cellsv2_layout -> cellsv2-layout  https://review.openstack.org/49882115:50
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: WIP! doc: Add contents page  https://review.openstack.org/49882015:50
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Cleanup of existing index pages  https://review.openstack.org/49881915:50
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mikaldansmith: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/opendev-sf-use-cases15:57
mikalmriedem / sdague: I had expected it to be scheduled in the nova thing, but that doesn't seem to have happened15:58
mikalI kind of feel like we should do our thing this release, and then push it out to others next release15:59
mriedemok i still need to carve up the placement stuff into slots16:01
sdaguemikal: that's fine, it does seem like if there were interested parties on Tues afternoon or something to gather and do some bootstrapping16:01
sdagueit feels like one of those things that's enough of a shift some bootstrapping on what's going on, and good patterns, would be useful16:01
mriedemi have moved some of the placement stuff to it's own etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-queens-placement16:02
mriedemi think we're going to do the high priority stuff in the 2 hour slot on wed afternoon16:02
mriedemand then bump the other new stuff for placement to thursday afternoon after neutron16:02
mriedemplus whatever else to friday16:02
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mriedemmikal: maybe we do privsep at 4 on wednesday16:05
mriedemafter everyone is exhausted16:05
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sdagueless exhausted than friday16:06
sdaguewe might be able to complete sentences16:07
cdent.16:07
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alaskijohnthetubaguy: mriedem I vaguely recall some brief discussions with bauwser about discovering scheduler hints. I was mostly taking the stance that codfying the API schema for scheduler hints was silly because there was no correlation between what the API allows and what the deployment allowed.16:10
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: doc: fix flavor notes  https://review.openstack.org/50211216:10
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mriedemalaski: i was mostly thinking about a GET /scheduler_hints or something that just listed what was available with a description16:11
mriedembut that's really config-driven api16:11
mriedembased on the enabled scheduler filters16:11
mriedembut at least it's an api16:11
alaskiyeah, it would be a start16:12
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mriedemotherwise all mordred has to rely on is docs per cloud16:12
alaskiyep, and those are always up to date and accurate16:12
cdentI suppose it is a step in the right direction if it is deemed impossible to leapfrog to some kind of generic capabilities thing16:12
mordredmriedem: in fact, I generally don't have docs per cloud to depend on16:12
mordredmriedem: and  have to figure things out by trial and error, then writing a config setting and doc for the feature so other people don't have to trial and error16:13
mordredcdent: I'd very much like to chat next week about cloud profiles, version discovery and general capabilities things16:14
mikalmriedem: I live to obey16:15
mikalmriedem: it would be good to explain the underlying ideas to core so that they know what to look for16:15
cdentmordred: cool. we put it on the api room etherpad, so it is a known topic but I suspect we’ll have to chat about it multiple times to get all the right people16:15
mikalmriedem: but it is my pleasure to serve and you can just wake me up from my nap whenever you need me16:15
mikalUs funemployed bums only go to sessions which look personally interesting16:16
mikalOr have snacks16:16
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alaskiThe issue as I saw it is that the scheduler was extensible, but that extensibility had ramifications on the API. So there was no way, given what was in place, to enforce uniformity across deployments. e.g. cloudA could have an 'affinity' hint and cloudB could have a 'closeness' hint that meant the same thing, or two cloud could have an 'affinity' hint that meant different things.16:16
alaskiDiscovery of what is available is a big help, but there's a second layer issue of understanding what the discovered capability actually means16:17
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mriedemalaski: yeah, exactly16:18
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mriedemso you can maybe write something that understands how the common hints in nova work, and then at least check if they are available in cloud A and B (which are your preferred clouds in this case),16:19
mriedemand then if you also know that cloud B has this other "fancy" hint, you can use that if it's available, otherwise you dont16:19
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alaskiyeah. Understanding and discovering in-tree hints would be a huge boon. And then discovery of "custom" hints would be a nice addition for those who understand what they mean16:22
mriedemsean-k-mooney: i could have sworn you had something about bandwidth-based scheduling in the nova ptg etherpad, linking to the neutron spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396297/16:24
mriedembut i can't find it now16:24
mriedemoh it's in here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-queens-generic-device-management16:24
cdentthe etherpad that consumes all topics16:25
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mriedemyeah no crap16:27
mriedemsome of that is going to be during the neutron slot16:27
mriedemotherwise friday morning probably16:27
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tonygunksoftball question:  I recently changed to shared nfs for /var/lib/nova/instances on compute nodes for live migration.  Getting this error and want to know where to look:16:39
tonygunkhttp://paste.openstack.org/raw/620738/16:39
tonygunknova.compute.manager Stderr: u'qemu-img: Could not open \'/var/lib/nova/instances/b1b9c5c9-da00-4b2c-bc11-784c0da18b32/disk\': Failed to get shared "write" lock16:40
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openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Allow multi-attach in compute api  https://review.openstack.org/27104716:40
openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Allow multiple volume attachments  https://review.openstack.org/26758716:40
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cdenttonygunk: are you sure you have all your necessary daemons running? I can’t remember the details on linux, but maybe rpc.lockd?16:44
cdentor rpc.statd16:44
tonygunkI'll look into that thanks16:49
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor ServerMovingTests for non-move tests  https://review.openstack.org/49859616:58
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openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova master: Automatically revert resize which fails on destination  https://review.openstack.org/46252117:00
openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova master: Ensure errors_out_migration errors out migration  https://review.openstack.org/47980217:00
openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova master: Use Migration object in ComputeManagerMigrationTestCase  https://review.openstack.org/50212617:00
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tonygunkall daemons running fine on nfs server17:15
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cdenttonygunk: I’m not certain but I think you need some of it on the client too, but my info may be out of date17:18
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mriedemhuh, horizon has a page for selecting scheduling hints when creating a vm17:59
mriedemso i guess that must be plugged into the dashboard config somewhere17:59
mriedemthe fun things i find when i use horizon once per year18:00
cburgessmriedem It comes from glance.18:00
mriedemcburgess: scheduler hints?18:00
mriedemyou mean image meta?18:00
cburgessmriedem Yeah... there is some facility in glance now to load up a bunch of arbitrary metadata that horizon then pulls to display all that.18:00
cburgessLet me find it...18:01
mriedemyes i know about that18:01
mriedemthis isn't that18:01
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/glance/tree/master/etc/metadefs18:01
mriedem^ is the glance image meta stuff18:01
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cburgessmriedem You sure horizon isn't just pulling data from there for the scheduler hits as well?18:01
mriedemglance image meta has nothing to do with scheduler hints in nova18:02
cburgessmriedem I know that.. glance metaref has nothing to do with nova at all. YOu can load any arbittary thin you want. But its how horizon populates all those fancy pull downs.18:02
mriedemchet, who is on first?18:02
cburgessmriedem LOL18:03
cburgessFair18:03
cburgessmriedem I haven't used horizon in a while either.. what panel is that being displayed in?18:03
mriedemthere is a scheduler hints sub-panel during 'launch instance'o18:04
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mriedemit's empty18:04
mriedemso it must be something an admin can configure in horizon18:04
cburgessmriedem I see glance metarefs that have a type association of OS::Nova::Server and a target of "scheduler_hint".18:07
cburgesshttps://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/etc/metadefs/cim-processor-allocation-setting-data.json#L25-L2818:08
cburgessI don't actually see anything that is a hint in that file though.18:08
mriedemi don't know what "CIM Processor Allocation Setting" has to do with that18:08
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cburgessmriedem All I'm saying is that if you look under the hood I suspect that horizon is pulling a list from the metaref some how.18:10
mriedemrobcresswell: question!18:12
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Amend the code review guide for microversion API  https://review.openstack.org/49417318:12
mriedemi don't know where under the hood to look18:12
cburgessmriedem Thats my problem too :(18:13
cfriesenis anyone aware of an issue where snapshotting a boot-from-volume instance results in a valid image but with a reported size of 0?18:13
cburgesscfriesen Define valid?18:14
cfriesencburgess: you can boot an instance from it18:14
mriedemcfriesen: i think that's 0 because,18:14
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mriedemthe image snapshot meta has some block device mapping stuff in it,18:14
cburgesscfriesen Well thats cute, no I've not seen that.. I've seen snapshooting a BFV instance and you end up with a 0 size image that contains no data.18:14
mriedemso when you use that image to create another server,18:15
mriedemit does boot from volume18:15
mriedemand creates a new volume from the volume snapshot18:15
mriedemwe have a test like that in tempest18:15
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/scenario/test_volume_boot_pattern.py#L19618:15
cfriesenmriedem: okay, I'll try to reproduce and see exactly what's going on....could be our testers aren't testing what they think they are. :)18:15
mriedem^ has caused me lots of pain in the past18:16
mriedemwe used to have a really nasty race fail with that one18:16
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Move libvirt usages of chown to privsep.  https://review.openstack.org/47197218:16
mriedemin the compute api code, it's called something like an image-defined bdm18:16
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/api.py#L62418:16
mriedemcfriesen: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/api.py#L280218:17
mriedemis the 0 size thing18:17
cfriesenmriedem: sweet, thanks.18:18
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Move execs of touch to privsep.  https://review.openstack.org/48919018:21
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova master: Avoid chowning console logs in libvirt  https://review.openstack.org/47222918:34
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sdagueok, I'm super confused what just happened there18:36
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sdagueI think mikal's stack got funky18:38
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mikalsdake: yes, I think I've gotten lost in a rebase somewhere19:33
mikalSorry, sdague even19:33
mikalsdague: I'm about to run a session, I'll eyeball the rest of the stack after that19:33
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sdaguemikal: yeh, I hit the rebase button and it became a zero length patch, so I abandoned it19:41
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Unregister the TraitList object  https://review.openstack.org/50215219:52
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Unregister the Trait object  https://review.openstack.org/50215319:52
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Unregister the ResourceClassList object  https://review.openstack.org/50215419:52
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Unregister the ResourceClass object  https://review.openstack.org/50215519:52
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Unregister the UsageList object  https://review.openstack.org/50215619:52
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Unregister the Usage object  https://review.openstack.org/50215719:52
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Unregister the AllocationList object  https://review.openstack.org/50215819:52
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Unregister the Allocation object  https://review.openstack.org/50215919:52
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Unregister the InventoryList object  https://review.openstack.org/50216019:52
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Unregister the Inventory object  https://review.openstack.org/50216119:52
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Unregister the ResourceProviderList object  https://review.openstack.org/50216219:52
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Unregister the ResourceProvider object  https://review.openstack.org/50216319:52
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Removing versioning from resource_provider objects  https://review.openstack.org/50216419:52
sdakethe ole sdague misping :)19:54
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Correct a comment in _set_allocations  https://review.openstack.org/50216720:01
cdentdansmith, sdague, mriedem : if you guys are able to merge that soonish I can keep it detached from some other stuff in a useful way20:02
cdent(where that is that coment fix)20:02
sdaguecomment +220:03
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: note the microversions for GET /resource_providers query params  https://review.openstack.org/50216820:03
cdentthank sdague20:03
sdagueok, I'm about to shut down here. See folks in Denver.20:04
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mriedemcdent: question in there20:07
cdentmriedem: answered20:09
cdentmriedem: also, I made a blueprint for that stack of object deversioning abvoe. dan and I decided that should be done, and although it doesn’t expose any changes, having a blueprint to track seemed reasonable20:13
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: [placement] POST /allocations to set allocations for >1 consumers  https://review.openstack.org/50007320:37
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Move project_id and user_id to Allocation object  https://review.openstack.org/50041020:37
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Allow _set_allocations to delete allocations  https://review.openstack.org/50105120:37
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mikalsdague: yeah, I saw that, thanks21:04
mikalsdague: I'll hand check say the next five, and then we can talk again once those have landed21:04
mikalsdague: I'll add a comment to each review as I check it21:04
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: [placement] manage cache headers  https://review.openstack.org/49538021:08
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: [placement] manage cache headers  https://review.openstack.org/49538021:09
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openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move nbd commands to privsep.  https://review.openstack.org/50035121:11
openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move lvm handling to privsep.  https://review.openstack.org/49551621:11
openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move xend existence probes to privsep.  https://review.openstack.org/49553821:11
openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move shred to privsep.  https://review.openstack.org/49553721:11
openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup mount / umount and associated rmdir calls  https://review.openstack.org/49442321:11
openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova master: WIP / Aspirational: we don't need rootwrap any more.  https://review.openstack.org/49554221:11
openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Don't shell out to mkdir, use ensure_tree()  https://review.openstack.org/49232621:11
openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move loopback setup and removal to privsep.  https://review.openstack.org/49566421:11
openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move ploop commands to privsep.  https://review.openstack.org/49232521:11
openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Read from console ptys using privsep.  https://review.openstack.org/48948621:11
openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move the idmapshift binary into privsep.  https://review.openstack.org/49554121:11
openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move kpartx calls to privsep.  https://review.openstack.org/50035421:11
openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move libvirts dmcrypt support to privsep.  https://review.openstack.org/49073721:11
openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move blkid calls to privsep.  https://review.openstack.org/50039821:11
openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move execs of tee to privsep.  https://review.openstack.org/48943821:11
mriedemlbragstad: is there a specific time/place for rbac policy changes on monday or tuesday?21:17
lbragstadtime - yes21:17
lbragstadplace, no idea21:17
mriedemhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/policy-queens-ptg21:17
mriedemmonday 9-12?21:17
lbragstadi still haven't heard anything about room slots for topics like that21:17
mriedemi guess that's different21:17
lbragstadlet me grab the baremetal/vm schedule21:18
mriedem13:30 - 17:0021:18
lbragstadyeah21:18
mriedem3.5 hours huh21:18
lbragstadmonday morning we are going to be helping projects with the communtiy goal21:18
lbragstadwhich nova doesn't have to worry about because you're ahead of the game21:19
mriedem\o/21:19
lbragstadafter lunch we're planning on discussing other policy things21:19
mriedemwhich etherpad is unified limits?21:19
lbragstads/things/problems/21:19
lbragstadmriedem: unified limits got stratched21:19
lbragstadscratched*21:19
mriedemok21:19
lbragstadwe don't have an owner21:19
lbragstadso we're not going to dedicate time to it until we find more interest21:20
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lbragstadso - the essentially leaves two things on the agenda for the baremetal/vm group21:20
lbragstadapplication credentials and policy/RBAC improvements21:20
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mriedemok21:21
mriedemtrying to highlight some of the xp stuff that nova would care about in our etherpad21:22
lbragstadthe afternoon policy stuff on monday will be important for you there21:22
mriedemsince i can't just say "dansmith and lyarwood doing skip level upgrades for 48 hours straight"21:22
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lbragstadwell - if anyone needs a break from upgrades, any input on policy would be awesome21:23
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova stable/pike: Track which cell each instance is created in and use it consistently  https://review.openstack.org/50182021:28
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova stable/pike: Ensure instance mapping is updated in case of quota recheck fails  https://review.openstack.org/50182121:28
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: [placement] api-ref GET /traits name:startswith  https://review.openstack.org/49968221:29
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mriedemhmm, we don't update the generation if we change the name of a resource provider?21:55
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mnaser^ yay they merged, thanks folks :>23:11
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dansmithmnaser: nice thanks for your effort23:47
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