| melwitt | the instance string repr is a bytes string in python2, that's what the safe_encode does in the __repr__ function in ovo. the instance.display_name is of type unicode. I don't know if that's relevant to what's happening here | 00:00 |
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| mriedem | ooo fun i pulled the journal file down from a failed job and i'm poking through the nova-compute logs using journalctl | 00:05 |
| melwitt | super fun | 00:06 |
| melwitt | the OSJournalHandler is new as of about a month ago, fwiw | 00:07 |
| mriedem | yeah | 00:07 |
| melwitt | if the syslog one was the old default, it seems like it should have been making the same traces. I don't know what the old handler was | 00:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for server-password endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/462049 | 09:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Add policy description for os-quota-classes https://review.openstack.org/461996 | 09:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Add policy description for extensions https://review.openstack.org/461995 | 09:27 |
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| johnthetubaguy | gmann: alex_xu: just looking at this ips API, seems like we should have deprecated that? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/ips.py | 09:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Szarka proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance-live_migration_abort notification https://review.openstack.org/420453 | 09:41 |
| asettle | Good morning \o/ it's been a whole week since I've been here | 09:42 |
| asettle | I've got a quick nova doc patch ifs omeone could take a wee lookie | 09:42 |
| asettle | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462009/2 | 09:42 |
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| johnthetubaguy | asettle: seems like a good add to me | 09:47 |
| asettle | Thanks johnthetubaguy :) I just did my little edit, and +2 | 09:47 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Add doc for resource provider usages https://review.openstack.org/450105 | 09:48 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: I remember we talk about in the before | 09:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: ah, I forgot about that one completely | 09:53 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: I can't remeber the detail also, try to search the log | 09:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: [WIP] Transform aggregate.update_metadata notification https://review.openstack.org/460625 | 09:59 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: there is a roadmap for the interface API in the bottom of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-os-interfaces, it didn't have record about ips :( but I guess that isn't something we want | 10:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: ah, oops | 10:01 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: here is the talk, it is very long http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-nova/%23openstack-nova.2017-04-11.log.html#t2017-04-11T14:02:10 if you are interesting | 10:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Abhishek Sharma M proposed openstack/nova master: Catching OverQuota Exception https://review.openstack.org/460305 | 10:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: trivial: Remove dead code https://review.openstack.org/460662 | 10:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/os-vif master: Require OVS 2.8 and kernel 4.8 for offload https://review.openstack.org/460093 | 10:50 |
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| asettle | johnthetubaguy: could I Get your email with something? How much do you know about Compute schedulers? | 11:25 |
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| sdague | melwitt: yeh, there was a reason this broke down on me before, and I really don't remember what it is | 11:26 |
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| sfinucan | sdague: Could you take a punt at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/431037/ and successors today? | 11:28 |
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| sdague | sfinucan: question on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/431037/10 (though +2 for now anyway) | 11:40 |
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| mordred | efried: the keystoneauth change has landed - so I think next step is getting you a ksa patch cut, yeah? | 12:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/461446 | 12:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/462124 | 12:23 |
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| alex_xu | nova api meeting is in 14 mins at #openstack-meeting-4 | 12:46 |
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| johnthetubaguy | asettle: I know bits, but there might be better folks to ask, whats up? | 12:53 |
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| asettle | johnthetubaguy: I'm staring at this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1684261 | 12:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1684261 in openstack-manuals "AggregateImagePropertiesIsolation example doesn't actually indicate how it works" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to Alexandra Settle (alexandra-settle) | 12:54 |
| efried | mordred - lbragstad did that yesterday; 2.20.0 is out. | 12:54 |
| asettle | And I admit, I'm also very confused. | 12:54 |
| efried | It's working its way through requirements now. The bot proposed u-c bump, which merged; and I proposed g-r bump, which merged. Waiting for the bot to propose nova requirements.txt bump, but I think the nova change set will now verify, cause it uses u-c, right? | 12:55 |
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| lbragstad | efried mordred https://pypi.python.org/pypi/keystoneauth1/2.20.0 | 12:55 |
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| johnthetubaguy | asettle: good question, sounds like we need a better worked example. We have more docs in here: https://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/filter_scheduler.html | 12:58 |
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| efried | mriedem Do you want me to include links to merged and/or proposed change sets in the use-service-catalog-for-endpoints edit? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461481/ | 13:00 |
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| alex_xu | nova api meeting is running at #openstack-meeting-4 | 13:00 |
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| mriedem | efried: nope | 13:01 |
| asettle | johnthetubaguy: yeah I was reading that this morning. I couldn't, admittedly, find too many good examples to transfer across. The only thing I could find for AggregateImagePropertiesIsolation is the literal explanation about halfway down the page. | 13:01 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: can you hit this simple grenade change for using wsgi on master https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460543/ ? | 13:04 |
| mriedem | i.e. the devstack change to use uwsgi on master depends on that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457715/ | 13:05 |
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| mriedem | EmilienM: we've said in the past that when we make changes to grenade that we should give the deployment teams a heads up, do you think this change warrants that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460543/ ? | 13:06 |
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| mriedem | that's needed for using uwsgi for nova in devstack on master https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457715/ | 13:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: nova.utils.get_service_url() https://review.openstack.org/458257 | 13:08 |
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| * bauzas got a headache when trying to use the Summit agenda to find sessions to attend | 13:13 | |
| bauzas | sched.org, you <3 | 13:13 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: yep got it | 13:24 |
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| sfinucan | sdague: One more review here for you, if you would be so kind https://review.openstack.org/460097 | 13:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Add policy description for fping https://review.openstack.org/461763 | 13:37 |
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| dansmith | sdague: so your native call logging hack suggestion... | 13:43 |
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| dansmith | sdague: I dunno if you saw, but we're actually missing logs, and the two requests don't line up. we're not just seeing a big delay | 13:43 |
| dansmith | do you still think it's worth trying that? | 13:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: WIP Use six.text_type() when logging Instance object https://review.openstack.org/461912 | 13:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Debug race in delete-while-booting test https://review.openstack.org/461513 | 13:53 |
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| sdague | dansmith: sure | 13:54 |
| dansmith | okay | 13:54 |
| sdague | dansmith: you want me to push it out there? | 13:54 |
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| sdague | honestly, the only thing it loses us is the search by request-id, which would be nice | 13:55 |
| dansmith | sdague: I'll just slam it into my patch | 13:55 |
| sdague | but not hugely a thing | 13:55 |
| dansmith | I'm going to put something else to log in the delete path | 13:55 |
| sdague | any idea if there was an exception in this path? | 13:55 |
| dansmith | wait, what? | 13:55 |
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| sdague | wait what what? | 13:55 |
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| dansmith | commenting the use_journal thing means we don't log request_id? | 13:57 |
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| dansmith | or you mean it doesn't do the rich field thing? | 13:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Debug race in delete-while-booting test https://review.openstack.org/461513 | 13:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: WIP Use six.text_type() when logging Instance object https://review.openstack.org/461912 | 13:58 |
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| sdague | dansmith: it doesn't do the rich field thing | 13:59 |
| dansmith | okay gotcha | 13:59 |
| sdague | so with that on, the log path is through journal.send, which gives us all the extra metadata | 13:59 |
| sdague | with that off, it's just going to spew to stdout | 14:00 |
| dansmith | cool, just wanted to make sure it wasn't going to change more stuff | 14:00 |
| sdague | systemd will send it all to the journal but without any of the fun bits | 14:00 |
| sdague | dansmith: https://review.openstack.org/462163 | 14:00 |
| sdague | I also tweaked the debug line, because processid is going to be in the systemd logs anyway | 14:01 |
| mriedem | melwitt: heh, display_name='tempest-Ãñstáñcé-2027474072' is better than UnicodeDecodeError at least | 14:01 |
| dansmith | sdague: oh i just commented it out of my patch | 14:01 |
| sdague | mriedem: mriedem how did we get to that? | 14:02 |
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| mriedem | sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461912/ | 14:02 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: true. it's correct when I download the .txt.gz file though and open it with the less command. not sure what's up with that considering it let me copy-paste the name into the review comment from the log file I had downloaded | 14:02 |
| sdague | dansmith: sure, honestly, for right now I think it's fine to turn it off if we have concerns, so I'll put the general patch out there as well | 14:02 |
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| sdague | melwitt: that really feels like something that should be happening at the logging levels below | 14:03 |
| mriedem | sdague: you mean in the oslo.log handlers? | 14:04 |
| jaypipes | sdague, dansmith, mriedem, bauzas: https://hangouts.google.com/call/b6rgkm2kzbh57pdgv6vey2kgxau | 14:04 |
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| sdague | mriedem: yeh | 14:04 |
| melwitt | sdague: maybe, if we wanna convert everything to unicode before logging. which we probably do I guess | 14:04 |
| mriedem | sdague: i think melwitt is just trying to figure out how to fix it | 14:04 |
| sdague | mriedem: sure | 14:04 |
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| sdague | mriedem: you going to jump on hangout about onboarding room? | 14:05 |
| mriedem | yes | 14:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Add json style checking for sample notifications https://review.openstack.org/443677 | 14:05 |
| dansmith | sdague: okay | 14:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Add policy description for instance actions https://review.openstack.org/461757 | 14:06 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: I came to mock, staying to mock | 14:09 |
| abhishek | melwitt: Hi Melanie. I have added the changes which you had suggested. Please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460305/ | 14:09 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Add policy description for instance actions https://review.openstack.org/461757 | 14:10 |
| melwitt | abhishek: ack, will take a look | 14:10 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: :) | 14:10 |
| abhishek | melwitt: thanks | 14:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for os-attach-interfaces endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/462166 | 14:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for os-server-groups endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/462169 | 14:19 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-forum-nova-project-onboarding | 14:21 |
| peter-hamilton | hi all, the bulk of the cert validation support in cursive is done: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357202/ | 14:22 |
| peter-hamilton | i'd like to get additional nova folks eyes on it before we go further (thanks again for the review jaypipes) | 14:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: use plain routes list for os-virtual-interfaces https://review.openstack.org/462173 | 14:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Add policy description for os-quota-classes https://review.openstack.org/461996 | 14:34 |
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| efried | johnthetubaguy jaypipes mordred mriedem edmondsw FYI, the necessary ksa and requirements pieces for use-service-catalog-for-endpoints are in place, so the nova change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458257/ is passing Jenkins and (I believe) ready for a solid review hammering. | 14:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for os-consoles and os-console-auth-tokens endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/462175 | 14:39 |
| jaypipes | efried: will try to review this afternoon. | 14:40 |
| efried | jaypipes Thanks! | 14:40 |
| edmondsw | efried roger that | 14:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to policies in extended_az and extend_ser_attrs https://review.openstack.org/461600 | 14:43 |
| edmondsw | mriedem edleafe is there spec for the capabilities work that was discussed at the PTG? | 14:46 |
| edmondsw | All I'm finding is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/expose-host-capabilities which is languishing and doesn't talk about what was discussed at PTG | 14:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for block_device_mapping instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/462180 | 14:47 |
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| jaypipes | edmondsw: are you referring to the API capabilities or are you referring to the resource provider traits stuff? | 14:48 |
| edmondsw | jaypipes API | 14:48 |
| edleafe | edmondsw: The api-wg spec for capabilities was abandoned: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386555/ | 14:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for user_data instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/462183 | 14:50 |
| edmondsw | edleafe the abandon comment talks about "first fixing the immediate problems | 14:51 |
| edmondsw | where is that happening? | 14:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform aggregate.add_host notification https://review.openstack.org/396210 | 14:51 |
| edleafe | edmondsw: as far as I know no one has picked that up | 14:52 |
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| edmondsw | k | 14:52 |
| edleafe | edmondsw: so if you've got some spare cycles... :) | 14:53 |
| edmondsw | edleafe wish I did... | 14:53 |
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| edleafe | heh, welcome to the club! | 14:53 |
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| melwitt | sdague: when I was debugging locally, I found this is where it blows up in the log formatting, it's trying to convert the message to unicode, but with the Instance object I found it only works if the encoding 'utf-8' is specified to six.text_type(), and that requires the instance arg be a string, not an Instance object type | 14:56 |
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| melwitt | https://github.com/openstack/oslo.log/blob/3ee14a1/oslo_log/formatters.py#L83-L93 | 14:56 |
| mriedem | sdague: jaypipes: dansmith: bauzas: i assume none of us have a touchscreen laptop to project if we don't have a flip chart or whiteboard right? | 14:58 |
| mriedem | that would be easier to see than a flip chart if we're expecting 40 people | 14:58 |
| melwitt | so in my patch I'm doing repr(instance) followed by six.text_type(instance_repr, 'utf-8') if six.PY2 | 14:58 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: drawing on that kind of thing is pretty hard to do well, IMHO, but no I don't have one | 14:59 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: i thought they were supposed to be super awesome nowadays? | 14:59 |
| mriedem | but yeah i don't have one either | 14:59 |
| melwitt | I have a msft surface and drawing pens, but I dunno how to project with it | 15:01 |
| mriedem | efried: ah ok so this is what you needed https://github.com/openstack/requirements/commit/f7ebce161764236086957451d21d0fcae9fa86e9 | 15:01 |
| mriedem | melwitt: i assume projecting is same as always | 15:01 |
| mriedem | usb adapter probably | 15:01 |
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| efried | mriedem Yes, that was one piece of the puzzle. | 15:02 |
| melwitt | yeah, it has limited ports. it has usb though | 15:02 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: jaypipes: for the nova project update slides, we could talk over those tomorrow if you want. i think it would be pretty simple. i figured i could start, then jay covers any placement slides, dan covers any cells slides, and i can do the rest of the misc stuff | 15:04 |
| sdague | mriedem: honestly, I also find drawing on those live quite hard. Flipboard would definitely be more useful | 15:04 |
| mriedem | sdague: well someone should tell all of the marketers that for every time i watch an NFL game | 15:05 |
| dansmith | mriedem: sounds good to me | 15:05 |
| mriedem | because they all said it was super easy and awesome | 15:05 |
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| sdague | dansmith: did changing the use_journal option with your runs help? | 15:11 |
| dansmith | sdague: they're not done yet | 15:12 |
| sdague | dansmith: ok | 15:12 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: so, looking at the few other onboarding threads on the ML, I'm kinda curious... what are the other projects doing for this slot? | 15:20 |
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| mdbooth | dansmith: Perhaps a hazing? | 15:25 |
| bauzas | dansmith: mriedem: FWIW, most of the Upstream Training attendees previously were trying to look at devstack and provide a change against a project | 15:26 |
| bauzas | dansmith: mriedem: now that the Institute doesn't really provide devstack, I think they just want to have some technical discussions :) | 15:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform aggregate.add_host notification https://review.openstack.org/396210 | 15:29 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: i've wondered the same, and i saw the cinder etherpad at one point | 15:31 |
| mriedem | but can't find it now | 15:31 |
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| mordred | efried: nice! looking now | 15:32 |
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| mriedem | smcginnis: where is your guys' cinder onboarding etherpad? | 15:35 |
| mriedem | kevinbenton: ^ do you guys have one? | 15:35 |
| giuseppe1992 | Hello all!!! | 15:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform aggregate.add_host notification https://review.openstack.org/396210 | 15:38 |
| mordred | efried: oh - also - I'm making the patch to keystoneauth right now to deal with teh service type list - so hopefully we can make a follow up soon to your patch to consume that .. | 15:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Mathieu Gagné proposed openstack/nova master: Add ability to signal and perform online volume size change https://review.openstack.org/454322 | 15:39 |
| mordred | efried: patch looks mostly great on first read - excellent work -I've got a few nitpicky things I'll leave in just a bit | 15:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform aggregate.remove_host notification https://review.openstack.org/396211 | 15:44 |
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| smcginnis | mriedem: I dont believe we have an etherpad for that. | 15:45 |
| efried | mordred Roger that, and thanks. | 15:47 |
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| efried | mordred Please add me to that service type list patch once it's up. | 15:48 |
| mordred | will do! | 15:48 |
| * mordred is now expecting efried to review all of his crazy patches related to this topic | 15:49 | |
| efried | mordred I will certainly do that, for whatever it's worth. I still have your ML threads awaiting deeper dives. | 15:49 |
| * mordred mails efried a case of advil | 15:50 | |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: works for me. I'll be on IRC all day of course. | 15:54 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: well, after around 9:30am EDT... it's Thursday morning golf before that. :) | 15:55 |
| mriedem | ooo this looks like a new fun gate bug http://logs.openstack.org/73/461473/3/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial/a277636/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz#_May_02_17_49_07_771248 | 15:56 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem, sdague: are we still seeing issues with the live-migration jobs? | 15:57 |
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| mriedem | jaypipes: no | 15:57 |
| mriedem | cells v1 job is the main failure right now | 15:57 |
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| dansmith | FWIW, it looks like my job is going to pass without journal usage | 15:59 |
| dansmith | I'm not sure that makes sense | 15:59 |
| dansmith | I was hoping to just get the rest of my debug with that hack, | 15:59 |
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| dansmith | but I suppose it's possible that it's occasionally causing us to deadlock something | 15:59 |
| dansmith | I'll recheck a few times to see if I just got uber lucky this time | 15:59 |
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| sdague | dansmith: ok, cool | 16:07 |
| sdague | I did one more tweak on my general patch, once that's passes, I'll get that in | 16:08 |
| dansmith | sdague: that "okay cool" was for the rechecking right? | 16:08 |
| dansmith | I was not expecting it to actually make it pass | 16:08 |
| dansmith | I was expecting it to let me see my own debug for the real failure | 16:08 |
| sdague | yes, for rechecking | 16:08 |
| sdague | ok, so someone that understands more about eventlet than might be needed to understand why this fails | 16:09 |
| sdague | https://github.com/systemd/python-systemd/blob/c06c5d401d60ae9175367be0797a6c2b562ac5ba/systemd/journal.py#L412-L457 is the function we're calling into | 16:11 |
| sdague | https://github.com/systemd/python-systemd/blob/c06c5d401d60ae9175367be0797a6c2b562ac5ba/systemd/_journal.c which I goes into native code | 16:11 |
| sdague | jaypipes so presumably related to the same reason gRPC doesn't work | 16:12 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: ^ see in that first link to journal.py "MESSAGE must be a string and will be sent as UTF-8 to the journal." | 16:15 |
| jaypipes | sdague: maybe, not sure though. the grpc vs. eventlet thing was around how grpc's generated python code doesn't play well with monkey-patched envs | 16:16 |
| sdague | jaypipes: potentially similar issue? | 16:17 |
| mriedem | sdague: was it intentional to enable syslog handler to put all of the service logs into syslog? because syslog is huge now, and basically unusable in a browser | 16:17 |
| mriedem | http://logs.openstack.org/73/461473/3/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial/a277636/logs/syslog.txt.gz | 16:17 |
| jaypipes | sdague: maybe. I'm no eventlet expert though :( perhaps worth asking vstinner or dims to take a look into it. | 16:17 |
| jaypipes | sdague: or perhaps one of the swift folks? | 16:17 |
| sdague | mriedem: we didn't enable the syslog handler | 16:17 |
| sdague | this is the journal | 16:17 |
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| sdague | mriedem: this is what things under systemd look like, we can trim what ends up in the extracted syslog.txt | 16:18 |
| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: WIP Use six.text_type() when logging Instance object https://review.openstack.org/461912 | 16:18 |
| mriedem | sdague: i thought this did something | 16:18 |
| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/oslo.log/commit/391635475a5877c2078856b5c3a7d2929682764a | 16:18 |
| sdague | mriedem: https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/87a9ef290fa371862f30702497238fffdfdfe8fe/functions.sh#L647-L649 | 16:18 |
| sdague | mriedem: nope, unrelated | 16:19 |
| dansmith | sdague: don't we have a global log lock or something? | 16:19 |
| dansmith | that was the reason why logging in the db api was so problematic I think | 16:20 |
| dansmith | we wouldn't have deadlocks in the same way here I think, but it could still be a problem | 16:20 |
| melwitt | mriedem: okay. I wrote a better commit message to explain what I was seeing in local debugging. the ContextFormatter tries to convert every message to unicode, it was failing on the Instance object, and I found to convert it properly I had to specify the encoding to six.text_type() | 16:20 |
| dansmith | we can't really hold any locks while making a native call or we're going to cause problems | 16:20 |
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| sdague | dansmith: I didn't think we did | 16:23 |
| sdague | at least not in our code | 16:23 |
| dansmith | not in nova, but I thought oslo.logging did or something | 16:23 |
| sdague | oslo.logging is really thin | 16:23 |
| dansmith | I didn't follow that whole thing way back then | 16:24 |
| sdague | I don't think there is any locking there | 16:24 |
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| dansmith | okay, well, the problem was that we'd do a database thing, which would grab a lock in mysql, then do a logging statement, which would grab a lock, | 16:24 |
| dansmith | and if the opposite was happening elsewhere, we'd deadlock | 16:24 |
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| dansmith | not sure how that would have happened if it wasn't a lock in oslo.logging or python. | 16:25 |
| sdague | there is nothing that looks like a lock in oslo.logging | 16:25 |
| dansmith | maybe logging to a file in python does a flock on the log file? | 16:25 |
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| sdague | maybe, but we're not doing that here | 16:25 |
| dansmith | no, I know, | 16:25 |
| dansmith | I'm just trying to point to something similar that may be happening | 16:26 |
| melwitt | mriedem: this is where I saw it blowing up https://github.com/openstack/oslo.log/blob/3ee14a1/oslo_log/formatters.py#L83-L93 | 16:26 |
| dansmith | with making a native call that could block | 16:26 |
| sdague | dansmith: yeh | 16:27 |
| sdague | so this eventually turns into a C sendmsg to push things over the unix domain socket for systemd | 16:27 |
| sdague | anyway, I'm going to drop the debug thread here, as I'm over my depth on what bits of eventlet would make it weird | 16:28 |
| mriedem | melwitt: here https://github.com/openstack/oslo.log/blob/3ee14a1/oslo_log/formatters.py#L89 ? | 16:29 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: eh, I'm not sure how I saw that locally now that I think about it. it's not the same as what we see in the gate | 16:30 |
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| sdague | melwitt: in the gate isn't it that we're sending it an Instance Object | 16:31 |
| sdague | it's implicitly turning it into a string with __repr__ | 16:31 |
| sdague | and that is the thing that might be encoded weird? | 16:31 |
| sdague | melwitt: at least, your work around seemed to imply that | 16:31 |
| clarkb | the journald write is blocking I think | 16:31 |
| melwitt | sdague: yeah. and then at the log message format() step it blows up but I don't know exactly how | 16:31 |
| clarkb | but I don't know that it will hold a lock | 16:31 |
| sdague | clarkb: I don't know, the man pages say it's thread safe | 16:32 |
| sdague | which could mean locks in there | 16:32 |
| sdague | it also keeps monotonic time (or can) which makes me wonder | 16:32 |
| dansmith | or locks in journald that cause that call to block | 16:32 |
| dansmith | even if not locks in the sending code | 16:32 |
| sdague | but, it's a whole research bit on it's own | 16:32 |
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| clarkb | dansmith: well that call can block regardless of locks | 16:34 |
| clarkb | because its a synchronous write | 16:34 |
| dansmith | yeah | 16:34 |
| melwitt | mriedem, sdague: in the gate it blows up here https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/master/Lib/logging/__init__.py#L338 | 16:34 |
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| sdague | melwitt: right | 16:35 |
| sdague | but one of those args is an Instance | 16:36 |
| sdague | object | 16:36 |
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| sdague | dansmith: are there utf8 tests in oslo.versionedobjects for object stringification? | 16:38 |
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| melwitt | sdague: yeah. and like you said it gets turned into a str by __repr__ but there are unicode chars in it | 16:38 |
| sdague | clarkb / dansmith - anyway on the journal issue, I think the near term is to shut that bit off | 16:39 |
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| dansmith | sdague: you mean for the repr? | 16:39 |
| sdague | dansmith: yeh | 16:39 |
| sdague | or just in general, I'm not seeing any grepping around | 16:39 |
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| dansmith | sdague: is the problem really repr'ing the instance in the log call? I thought we just grab the uuid out of the instance when we do LOG.foo(..., instance=instance) ? | 16:39 |
| mriedem | dansmith: no, | 16:39 |
| mriedem | this is a full dump of the instance | 16:40 |
| mriedem | and all of it's fields | 16:40 |
| dansmith | ah | 16:40 |
| sdague | right | 16:40 |
| mriedem | and the display_name in one test is unicode | 16:40 |
| sdague | which is when it all blows up | 16:40 |
| mriedem | not using the instance=instance kwarg | 16:40 |
| dansmith | I dunno, I thought someone did a few utf tweaks when they py3-ified it, but I dunno | 16:40 |
| melwitt | the __repr__ returns a bytes string in PY2 to be native with the rest | 16:40 |
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| melwitt | and converting it to unicode before logging it makes it work. it's just I had to repr(instance) and then six.text_type(instance_repr, 'utf-8') | 16:41 |
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| clarkb | this would be a general issue for things like https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo.log/tree/oslo_log/handlers.py#n56 too right? | 16:47 |
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| clarkb | eg its not specific to the journald handler we juts happen to be using it in testing so catch it | 16:47 |
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| sdague | clarkb: it blows up on the format() | 16:49 |
| sdague | not on the send | 16:49 |
| sdague | that solution would be too late | 16:49 |
| sdague | there would be an exception at L73 | 16:49 |
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| clarkb | right I'm saying the syslog handler does the format in emit too | 16:49 |
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| clarkb | so the bug is also in that handler | 16:49 |
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| sdague | clarkb: ok, so the solution is? | 16:51 |
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| clarkb | I think what melwitt described, do your formatting outside of the logger (which has the downside of possibly being unnecessary depending on log level)? | 16:52 |
| clarkb | or possibly you can manipulate locks within logging? | 16:53 |
| clarkb | that seems fragile | 16:53 |
| sdague | clarkb: ?? the locking issue is different | 16:53 |
| sdague | so, if I dive down the FileHandler -> StreamHandler path | 16:54 |
| clarkb | sdague: oh I understood it as oyu need db lock to format the instance repr and you need logging lock to use the logger | 16:54 |
| sdague | clarkb: no you have mixed up 2 different issues | 16:54 |
| clarkb | ah sorry | 16:54 |
| sdague | StreamHandler does the same - msg = self.format(record) | 16:54 |
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| abhishek | melwitt: just a reminder, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460305/ | 16:55 |
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| melwitt | sdague: yeah, I'm trying to figure out what is different. does StreamHandler use the same formatter as OSJournalHandler? I don't get what is different here | 16:55 |
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| sdague | melwitt: yep | 16:55 |
| sdague | melwitt: so these things have definitely been around before | 16:55 |
| sdague | I went diving after one of these before | 16:56 |
| sdague | and there are as many successes as fails on mriedem's issue | 16:56 |
| clarkb | the format issue is purely a unicode problem? | 16:56 |
| sdague | clarkb: that is my believe | 16:56 |
| sdague | belief | 16:56 |
| melwitt | sdague: oh, so something else about the change to the journal logger has just made this happen or timed in a way that we see it in gate failures now? | 16:56 |
| sdague | I'm actually starting to think it's a red herring | 16:57 |
| sdague | melwitt: I expect the deadlocking that was causing dansmith's bugs is actually the issue | 16:57 |
| melwitt | sdague: yeah, I think you're right | 16:58 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462163/2/functions will fix that | 16:58 |
| sdague | melwitt: that being said, I still think there is a general utf8 bug in ovo repr that would be good to fix :) | 16:58 |
| sdague | at least adding utf8 tests to ovo | 16:59 |
| cfriesen | where does the service version get determined? I don't see it in the Service object. | 16:59 |
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| clarkb | sdague: so with that change in place journald will still get the service logs out of stdout? we just won't use the native writer right? | 17:00 |
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| sdague | clarkb: correct | 17:00 |
| sdague | systemd will still injest them | 17:01 |
| sdague | they just miss out on the native annotations, which include things like code line, correct process_id, and extras | 17:01 |
| melwitt | sdague: yeah ... I'll look at that. it's not straightforward to me bc the __repr__ intentionally converts to bytes (opposite of what we want for the logging) and it seems to work fine outputting to stdout for example, so I don't yet understand what should be done there | 17:01 |
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| sdague | melwitt: yeh, I'm not sure I do either. But it also doesn't look like any of the ovo tests have utf8 strings in them | 17:02 |
| sdague | that would at least be a start | 17:02 |
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| melwitt | sdague: ack. will do | 17:04 |
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| mriedem | cfriesen: nova.service._update_service_ref | 17:07 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: and __init__ of the Service object | 17:08 |
| mriedem | when creating a new one | 17:08 |
| mriedem | self.version = SERVICE_VERSION | 17:09 |
| sdague | mriedem: what things do you want in syslog.txt ? | 17:10 |
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| mriedem | sdague: not the openstack service logs | 17:24 |
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| sdague | mriedem: sure, but we have to build back up which things you want in there | 17:25 |
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| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462231/ | 17:28 |
| mriedem | sdague: i don't know honestly, syslog was my place to go look for native process things on the system, like libvirt, mysql, tgtd, kernel stuff, etc | 17:29 |
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| mriedem | i'd use the libvirt logs for libvirt debug info, | 17:29 |
| mriedem | and the openstack service logs for openstack service things | 17:29 |
| mriedem | the journal gz files are less useful to me since i can't use them in the browser, and have to pull them down | 17:29 |
| sdague | mriedem: right, well, we're in systemd world, everything is in the journal | 17:30 |
| sdague | and the export has to be based on inclusion, not exclusion | 17:30 |
| sdague | so going to start with kernel / sudo | 17:31 |
| sdague | and if you want other topics please propose | 17:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform aggregate.remove_host notification https://review.openstack.org/396211 | 17:32 |
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| mriedem | sdague: that's likely a fine start, and if i really need to debug anything that i'd normally find in syslog, or look in syslog for, i'll have to pull the journal down | 17:33 |
| mriedem | sdague: that means we might lose some things that we were indexing from syslog into logstash before, | 17:33 |
| mriedem | but that's probably a small set, idk | 17:33 |
| mriedem | libvirt things for sure though... | 17:33 |
| sdague | mriedem: it does, so if there are important things, I'd suggest just adding topics | 17:34 |
| sdague | mriedem: there is a reason I'm asking you what topics you want, because I expect you are one of the top users :) | 17:34 |
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| sdague | so I'm totally good with mriedems private label topics list | 17:34 |
| clarkb | dnsmasq | 17:35 |
| clarkb | thats been useful to debug dhcp things int he past | 17:35 |
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| sdague | clarkb: it has, though usually not with a spot check | 17:35 |
| mriedem | i dumped the current open e-r queries that rely on syslog in the patch | 17:35 |
| sdague | it will still be in the journal dump | 17:35 |
| mriedem | i haven't dug into what they are looking for though, because i'm lunching | 17:36 |
| sdague | mriedem: ok | 17:36 |
| sdague | speaking of, I need to do that | 17:36 |
| sdague | then will be intermittent for the rest of the day | 17:36 |
| sdague | I fast approved the disable on use_journal - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462163/ - so hopefully in a couple of hours that will be in | 17:37 |
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| mriedem | cool | 17:38 |
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| mriedem | cfriesen: are you going to be at the summit? | 17:39 |
| mriedem | because there is a session where all of your questions can be answered! | 17:39 |
| mriedem | unless they have something to do with numa and pci, then we'll be asking you for the answeres | 17:40 |
| mriedem | *answers | 17:40 |
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| mriedem | jaypipes: i had no idea wookiee had 2 es | 17:51 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: you're welcome :) | 17:51 |
| jaypipes | TIL... | 17:51 |
| mriedem | i actually like this format | 17:51 |
| mriedem | puts mine to shame | 17:51 |
| mriedem | damn you | 17:51 |
| mriedem | rxtx factors, ha | 17:53 |
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| mriedem | didn't i see sfinucan trying to remove all of that? | 17:53 |
| mriedem | or maybe that's a joke b/c rxtx factors would normally be an extra spec, but aren't | 17:55 |
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| mriedem | for whatever reason | 17:55 |
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| melwitt | dansmith: do you know what is the purpose of this stringify that puts extra quotes around a string? https://github.com/openstack/oslo.versionedobjects/blob/master/oslo_versionedobjects/fields.py#L269 | 17:57 |
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| sean-k-mooney | mriedem: aren't rx/tx factors more of a qos thing. e.g. sould they still exist now that neutron has a qos api | 17:57 |
| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: they are only used for port qos yeah | 17:57 |
| dansmith | melwitt: it's because that ends up in the repr, right? | 17:58 |
| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/network/neutronv2/api.py#L1088 | 17:58 |
| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: that's the only place we ues them for neutron in nova | 17:58 |
| mriedem | but they probably shouldn't be in nova | 17:58 |
| melwitt | dansmith: yeah. I'm trying to wrap my head around this stuff for when a StringField contains a unicode thing. and I was wondering what the adding of the quotes around the StringField value does if it's already a string? | 17:58 |
| mriedem | if you want qos on your port, create the port in neutron and provide it when creating the server | 17:59 |
| melwitt | dansmith: I'm probably dumbly missing something here | 17:59 |
| dansmith | melwitt: it's just for display | 17:59 |
| dansmith | melwitt: so you end up with Instance<name="foo bar"> and not Instance<name=foo bar> | 17:59 |
| sean-k-mooney | mriedem: so they were part of the old port qos support. i think this inclunces the libvirt xml generation somehow if i remember correctly | 17:59 |
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| melwitt | dansmith: right, okay. thank you | 17:59 |
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| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: i don't see that happening | 18:02 |
| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: in fact the only place i see rxtx* in nova/virt is in the xenapi driver | 18:03 |
| sean-k-mooney | ya im looking at the git repo currently and i cant find it either but i taguht it used too.. | 18:03 |
| mriedem | and it's based on a flag that's only set if you're using nova-network | 18:03 |
| sean-k-mooney | well its set here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/501a0fe65afabb7e6a8b1e2d1ca0fbcea941d2d1/nova/tests/unit/virt/libvirt/test_vif.py#L507 | 18:03 |
| sean-k-mooney | but i dont know if its used | 18:03 |
| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: that's just a flavor | 18:03 |
| mriedem | the rxtx_factor is defined on the nova flavor | 18:04 |
| sean-k-mooney | yes | 18:04 |
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| mriedem | we don't use that when plugging the vifs in libvirt though, or creating the domain xml, from what i can tell | 18:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: thats a rackspace special for quark | 18:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: AFAIK | 18:04 |
| mriedem | it's probably time to deprecate rxtx_factor in our flavor api | 18:04 |
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| mriedem | and say if you need qos on ports, get it from neutron | 18:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: +1 that | 18:05 |
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| mriedem | sdague: jaypipes: dansmith: let's remember to put something in the onboarding session about "if you don't know why it's in nova, or what uses/used it, it's probably something to enable out of tree things for rackspace" | 18:05 |
| mriedem | i need constant reminding of that | 18:05 |
| sean-k-mooney | mriedem: ah look at https://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide/compute-flavors.html "this parameter is only available for Xen or NSX based systems." | 18:06 |
| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: ha | 18:06 |
| mriedem | nsx | 18:06 |
| mriedem | the vmware driver doesn't use it | 18:06 |
| mriedem | we should probably update the admin guide to basically say don't use that | 18:07 |
| sean-k-mooney | mriedem: if you try to use that with nutons bandwith limit qos policies you will get consusing behavior | 18:07 |
| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: this is the description from our compute api-ref: "The receive / transmit factor (as a float) that will be set on ports if the network backend supports the QOS extension. Otherwise it will be ignored. It defaults to 1.0." | 18:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: so here it is: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/cbbe486cd961e7f002c6e9ebdfdfa10527aa6b03/nova/network/manager.py#L551 | 18:07 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: yeah that's what got me to the xen driver | 18:08 |
| mriedem | the rxtx_cap | 18:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 18:08 |
| sean-k-mooney | is this code used only when nova networks is used? | 18:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: looks very nova-network only I think, given where that code lives. | 18:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack/nova master: Remove cloudpipe APIs https://review.openstack.org/459470 | 18:10 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: ^^^ I added the missing release note | 18:10 |
| sean-k-mooney | johnthetubaguy: mriedem so it can die with nova-networks in queens when cells v1 is removed | 18:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: placement: tests for non-shared with shared https://review.openstack.org/461899 | 18:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: placement: test for agg association not sharing https://review.openstack.org/461901 | 18:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: placement: test non-shared out of inventory https://review.openstack.org/461900 | 18:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: placement: shared resources when finding providers https://review.openstack.org/461574 | 18:10 |
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| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: no it's also used here for neutron https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/501a0fe65afabb7e6a8b1e2d1ca0fbcea941d2d1/nova/network/neutronv2/api.py#L1087 | 18:11 |
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| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: but as you said, having a nova flavor override your qos settings from neutron is confusing at best | 18:12 |
| mriedem | broken at worst | 18:12 |
| mriedem | so in queens we should deprecate that field | 18:12 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: separated _get_all_with_shared() into a module-level function per your request. ^^^ | 18:12 |
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| sean-k-mooney | mriedem: yes its prably best to have neutron be the only source of truth when it come to network qos | 18:12 |
| sean-k-mooney | mriedem: have the quots/rate limits been removed form nova yet? | 18:13 |
| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: the extra specs? | 18:14 |
| mriedem | probably not | 18:14 |
| sean-k-mooney | yes. i think they go hand in had with the rxtx_factor removal | 18:14 |
| mriedem | note there is 0 contract on extra specs really | 18:14 |
| jaypipes | and edleafe, I added a fun little ASCII diagram to (probably poorly) describe the "butterfly join" ;) | 18:15 |
| sean-k-mooney | yes but if is reqst a max bandwith or min in neutron nova should proably not override it | 18:15 |
| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: i don't disagree | 18:16 |
| cfriesen | mriedem: thanks....I am going to be at the Summit, as will Steven Webster (our actual PCI guy) | 18:16 |
| cfriesen | mriedem: reason I asked about the version was that we've got a weird case where one compute node is coming up after an upgrade with version 0 instead of version 9 | 18:17 |
| jaypipes | rfolco: answered your question on that error patch :) | 18:18 |
| jaypipes | rfolco: thanks much for hopping on that! | 18:18 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: i feel like that's something dansmith has seen before | 18:18 |
| mriedem | well, rax has seen | 18:18 |
| mriedem | and with that i'm out for an hour for haircutting time | 18:19 |
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| sean-k-mooney | mriedem: the bandwidth io extra spec discribed here https://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide/compute-flavors.html are the ones i was thinking of | 18:20 |
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| sean-k-mooney | mriedem_away: im pretty sure the dont always work correctly currently e.g. quota:vif_outbound_average=10 will have no effect on vhost-user and perhaps sriov also | 18:21 |
| dansmith | sdague: passed again.. | 18:22 |
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| rfolco | jaypipes, nice. Thanks for clarifying. I first got the impression the change was impossible. Another thing that came to my attention is that previously we had in those errors what was the inventory conflicting. Now, without the DB API error, the error message is more generic. Do you see any problem there? Not sure how to get the info for inventory from DB API error. | 18:23 |
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| jaypipes | rfolco: not sure it's all that necessary to include the actual inventory in use. all that really matters is that there are *some* allocations for something... at that point, you can't delete the inventory at all... | 18:25 |
| rfolco | jaypipes, sounds reasonable. Thank you Jay. | 18:26 |
| jaypipes | any time. | 18:26 |
| sean-k-mooney | jaypipes: quick question while you answering palcement api questions :) how would you feel about calls to the placement api from neutron as aprt of port binding? | 18:27 |
| sean-k-mooney | i know if 2 backend right now that use vhost-user in a sligly less flexably way where the last part of the socket is used as an id to identify the port e.g. vhost-user-1 is port 1 on the backend | 18:29 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: ooh, I like butterflies! | 18:29 |
| sean-k-mooney | jaypipes: do you think it would be appropriate to create a resouce provider per backend to track the allocated ports via the placement api or would it be better to track the seperatly in the neutron db or something like etcd in the neutron side | 18:31 |
| jaypipes | sean-k-mooney: thinking.. | 18:32 |
| jaypipes | sean-k-mooney: is the "backend" something that provides a particular resource class? and if so, what is that resource class? | 18:33 |
| sean-k-mooney | jaypipes: the backend is a vswitch and it proveds a limited number of acclerated port and effectivly infinity software non acclerated ports | 18:34 |
| jaypipes | sean-k-mooney: would there be multiple "backends" per compute node? | 18:35 |
| sean-k-mooney | jaypipes: that would depend on how the rest of the intergration was done but gernarally no | 18:35 |
| sean-k-mooney | you could support multiple but i dont see a reason too | 18:35 |
| jaypipes | sean-k-mooney: then why not have the "accelerated port" resources belong to the compute node resource provider? | 18:36 |
| sean-k-mooney | jaypipes: you could i just was wondering if the idea of neutron caliming a resouce via the placement api so it new what numerb to use when creating the vhost user socket path would be ok | 18:37 |
| jaypipes | sean-k-mooney: no, I think it's best that the flow be this: | 18:37 |
| jaypipes | a) MANO system calls neutron port create to create the port object | 18:38 |
| jaypipes | b) MANO system calls nova boot --nic <port_uuid> ... | 18:38 |
| jaypipes | c) Nova conductor constructs a request to scheduler/placement that asks for a provider which has 1 accelerated port available (possibly also with some NIC-related traits on the compute node resource provider record)( | 18:39 |
| jaypipes | d) Nova conductor makes the "claim" for all the resources in the allocation | 18:40 |
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| jaypipes | e) nova-compute sees that the claim includes an allocation of an accelerated port and passes binding information to Neutron in the plug/bind operation. | 18:41 |
| jaypipes | sean-k-mooney: ^^ | 18:41 |
| sean-k-mooney | jaypipes: i get where your going with that. ya that makes sense more or less though it may mean i wont be able to reuse vnic types entirely the way i was hoping but it should still work | 18:42 |
| jaypipes | sean-k-mooney: elaborate for me... how will you not be able to reuse vnic types? | 18:42 |
| sean-k-mooney | jaypipes: well effectivly what resouce would be claimed may depend on the neutron backend so i was hoping to reuse the existing vnic types but that may or may not work | 18:43 |
| jaypipes | sean-k-mooney: I guess I don't understand that... when is it decided which "backend" should be used? at neutron port create time, no? | 18:44 |
| sean-k-mooney | jaypipes: the tenant is not directly aware of the ovs backend in use. | 18:45 |
| sean-k-mooney | basically i would like to reuse vnic type direct for something that is like sriov but is slightly different | 18:45 |
| sean-k-mooney | libvirt thinks its sriov | 18:46 |
| jaypipes | sean-k-mooney: the request should be "get me an accelerated port with these characterstics", not "get my an accelerated port on this backend on this compute node", right? | 18:47 |
| abhishek | melwitt: just a reminder, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460305/ | 18:47 |
| sean-k-mooney | jaypipes: yes the request would be boot me vm with this port of vnic type (normal,dirct or virtio-fowrader) | 18:48 |
| sean-k-mooney | vnic type direct could be sriov passthrough of a vf or a hardware offloaded port such as the melonox hardware datapath for ovs. | 18:49 |
| jaypipes | sean-k-mooney: k. for the direct vnic_type, I pretty much understand the various resource classes and traits involved. for normal, there's not really any traits/resource classes involved (since it's as you say "infinite resource capacity for software vnics"). It's the virtio-forwarder vnic types I'm just not familiar with... | 18:49 |
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| sean-k-mooney | virtio-forwarder is a new vnic introduced by netronome for there smartnics it is vhost user with hardware accleration | 18:50 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit on review.openstack.org is being restarted to accomodate a memory leak in Gerrit. Service should return shortly. | 18:53 | |
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| melwitt | hah, I was just about to say "gee, gerrit has been really slow today" | 18:53 |
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| sean-k-mooney | jaypipes: anyway cool ill think about what you said because i didn want to also think about how to schdule base on the request also. thanks jay | 18:54 |
| jaypipes | sean-k-mooney: not sure I was very helpful here :( | 18:55 |
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| sean-k-mooney | you were i was thinking of useing the workflow you were suggesting also but for the second backend that has this contratint but it should work for both. | 18:55 |
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| melwitt | abhishek: sorry, been busy working on a gate bug. about to comment now | 18:56 |
| abhishek | melwitt: np | 18:56 |
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| armax | stevemar: ping | 18:57 |
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| stevemar | ameade: pong | 18:57 |
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| sean-k-mooney | the first backend was http://dpdk.org/browse/apps/spp/tree/ which NTT would like to enable next cycle. you can speciy the vhost-user socket path as it is hard coded to be /tmp/socket# where # is the id of the nfv forwarding instance. | 18:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova master: Remove check_detach https://review.openstack.org/446671 | 19:00 |
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| sean-k-mooney | since neutron has to calulate the vhost-user path as part of the port bind it needs to calulate/reserve an nfvincstace id for that interface as part of the port bind so that it can tell nova what path to use and os-vif what instance id to use to map to that socket | 19:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Abhishek Sharma M proposed openstack/nova master: Catching OverQuota Exception https://review.openstack.org/460305 | 19:02 |
| sean-k-mooney | jaypipes: anyway its time for dinner so ill catch you later. | 19:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rafael Folco proposed openstack/nova master: Delete all inventory has its own method DELETE https://review.openstack.org/460147 | 19:09 |
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| EmilienM | mriedem: is deploying nova-api in wsgi is now "stable" ? | 20:02 |
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| mriedem | EmilienM: the nova patches are all merged i think | 20:05 |
| mriedem | yeah, | 20:06 |
| mriedem | the devstack patch is passing but not merged yet https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457715/ | 20:06 |
| mriedem | EmilienM: this was the docs patch from cdent https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461289/ | 20:06 |
| dansmith | not running on devstack in the gate for a while means it's not "stable" yet IMHO | 20:07 |
| mriedem | https://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/wsgi.html | 20:07 |
| dansmith | especially given the journal excitement from this morning | 20:07 |
| mriedem | dansmith: i'd agree with that | 20:07 |
| mriedem | and that | 20:07 |
| mriedem | EmilienM: so kick the tires, but don't come screaming if there are issues :) | 20:07 |
| dansmith | the service creation patch looks good, I hadn't seen that until today | 20:07 |
| dansmith | but that's an important piece | 20:07 |
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| EmilienM | mriedem: ok good to know | 20:11 |
| EmilienM | mriedem: i'll give a try where it's easily revertable (Puppet CI) and wait a bit in TripleO | 20:11 |
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| mriedem | jaypipes: i'm on slide 27 btw | 20:12 |
| mriedem | nearly done | 20:12 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: thx for reviewing. really helpful. | 20:15 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: btw, added a graphic for the nested resource providers... | 20:15 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: slide 30... | 20:15 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: i'm hoping it's a picture of the sarlacc http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/20282/19782537_3.jpg?v=8D147F2BC4F6C50 | 20:16 |
| dansmith | mriedem: it'd have to be a lego sarlacc | 20:17 |
| jaypipes | right :) | 20:17 |
| mriedem | oh right | 20:17 |
| mriedem | oops | 20:17 |
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| dansmith | jay has like one slide per minute.. I hope none of the audience members have epilepsy | 20:17 |
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| jaypipes | dansmith: :) | 20:18 |
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| jaypipes | dansmith: especially since I added that strobe-light effect... | 20:19 |
| mriedem | jay is a professional slidesmith | 20:19 |
| dansmith | not sure the refresh rate on the projector will tolerate jay's slide-per-second rate | 20:19 |
| mriedem | i'm sure it will be perfectly timed for effect | 20:19 |
| jaypipes | lmao | 20:19 |
| mriedem | julie will be working the fog machine | 20:20 |
| dansmith | maybe he's trying to make his deck like a flipbook animation sort of thing? | 20:20 |
| mriedem | "ladies and gentlemen, introducing, the beast from the southeast....JAY!" | 20:20 |
| dansmith | a mic will descend from the ceiling and the lights will dim to a spotlight | 20:20 |
| mriedem | right | 20:20 |
| mriedem | i just like the idea of julie handling the effects | 20:21 |
| dansmith | are you ready .... toooooo..... PLACE SOME RESOURCES SMARTLY???? | 20:21 |
| melwitt | at first I was dreading these presentations. but now ... | 20:21 |
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| jaypipes | rofl | 20:21 |
| jaypipes | DJ Jules on the effects board. | 20:21 |
| dansmith | "Introducing Jay Pipes.. He hates inefficient schedulers and loves pug cuddles..." | 20:22 |
| jaypipes | hehe | 20:23 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: don't MAKE me add pug pics to my slides. you KNOW I will do that on a drop of a hat. | 20:23 |
| dansmith | lego pugs? | 20:23 |
| jaypipes | heh | 20:23 |
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| melwitt | the pug tucked into the blanket. that can be you sleeping soundly, using the new scheduler | 20:25 |
| jaypipes | melwitt: this one? :) https://twitter.com/jaypipes/media | 20:26 |
| sdague | mriedem / clarkb: I went through the list that mriedem posted in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462231 - the only thing with an active hit touching syslog is coming in under the kernel tag (which will still be in that file) | 20:26 |
| jaypipes | or rather, this... https://twitter.com/jaypipes/status/801233017993719808/photo/1 | 20:26 |
| melwitt | jaypipes: that one is awesome too. I was thinking of the one where it's tucked into bed. I don't remember which pug it was | 20:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack/nova master: Fix typo in wsgi applications release note https://review.openstack.org/462283 | 20:28 |
| mriedem | sdague: ok | 20:28 |
| mriedem | dropped the -1 | 20:28 |
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| jaypipes | melwitt: ah. this one :) https://twitter.com/jaypipes/status/631102588319080448/photo/1 | 20:28 |
| sdague | mriedem: it was a good thing to check | 20:28 |
| melwitt | jaypipes: hahaha yeah that's it | 20:28 |
| melwitt | I forgot the eyes were open, so that wouldn't be good for sleeping soundly | 20:29 |
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| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: btw https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1688054 | 20:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1688054 in openstack-manuals "Flavors in Administrator Guide - confusing description for rxtx factor" [Undecided,New] | 20:29 |
| mriedem | so we don't forget | 20:29 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: ok so a tree | 20:33 |
| jaypipes | ya | 20:33 |
| mriedem | :) | 20:33 |
| mriedem | gdi | 20:33 |
| mriedem | you and your dag | 20:33 |
| jaypipes | :) | 20:33 |
| mriedem | mutable media, | 20:33 |
| mriedem | dag | 20:33 |
| mriedem | nerd alert! | 20:33 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: all trees are DAGs but not all DAGs are trees.. | 20:34 |
| mriedem | i know | 20:34 |
| mriedem | oh, well, | 20:34 |
| mriedem | yeah nvm | 20:34 |
| mriedem | anyway, when i think of bidirectional i just think of graphs, | 20:34 |
| mriedem | and single parent directional i think of trees | 20:35 |
| mriedem | which are also graphs | 20:35 |
| jaypipes | it's cool, I removed the term DAG. | 20:35 |
| mriedem | i thought about not saying anything lest i look the fool | 20:35 |
| dansmith | and yet.. still happened | 20:37 |
| melwitt | lol | 20:37 |
| mriedem | hey, you didn't know what sight words ere | 20:38 |
| mriedem | *were | 20:38 |
| mriedem | dummy | 20:38 |
| mriedem | that reminds me to send you a picture of the thing i'm now a bad parent for | 20:39 |
| dansmith | they definitely didn't call them that when I was a kid | 20:39 |
| dansmith | at least, not in my school | 20:39 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem, dansmith: OK, removed a few slides from the New Hope deck. Down to 26 "real" slides, which should be perfect for the slot. | 20:51 |
| jaypipes | now... to whittle down the 1582 slides in my second deck... | 20:51 |
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| mriedem | i can't possibly go through them all again, but i think it looks really nice | 20:53 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: I appreciate both your and dansmith's comments. thanks again. | 20:54 |
| mriedem | dansmith: cells v2 meeting in 6 minutes? | 20:54 |
| dansmith | I didn't offer any useful feedback | 20:54 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yeah | 20:54 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: you just being you is useful feedback. :) | 20:54 |
| dansmith | heh | 20:55 |
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| melwitt | sdague: here's the unit test I'm trying for oslo.versionedobjects https://review.openstack.org/462288 | 20:59 |
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| melwitt | to me it seems like __repr__ is doing the right thing to encode as ascii (the default) before returning if not python3, else things you could expect to work like str() would blow up in python2 if applied to the returned repr | 21:00 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: i'm not sure how you don't love 'modularity' as a theme... | 21:29 |
| mriedem | it makes total sense if you're trying to synergize | 21:30 |
| dansmith | mriedem: my mistake | 21:30 |
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| clarkb | melwitt: if thats the case maybe you need to do a lossy repr? | 21:37 |
| melwitt | mriedem, dansmith: what about hyperconvergence | 21:38 |
| melwitt | clarkb: what do you mean? | 21:38 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: only thought leaders who drive innovative results deal with hyperconvergance | 21:38 |
| clarkb | melwitt: convert to ascii and ignore errors | 21:38 |
| clarkb | melwitt: https://docs.python.org/2/library/codecs.html#codec-base-classes has a list of the encoding optisn you can use | 21:39 |
| clarkb | strict is default which is why you get the error. But you could ignore or replace. or use backslashreplace | 21:40 |
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| mriedem | jaypipes: does 11am ET work tomorrow for you? | 21:51 |
| mriedem | 30 min hangout? | 21:51 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: yup. | 21:51 |
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| EmilienM | mriedem: sounds like re-enabling WSGI didn't work well: http://logs.openstack.org/81/462281/1/check/gate-puppet-openstack-integration-4-scenario002-tempest-centos-7/7a37824/logs/nova/nova-compute.txt.gz#_2017-05-03_20_58_25_083 | 22:00 |
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| mriedem | EmilienM: that doesn't look like anything that would be related to running with wsgi | 22:02 |
| EmilienM | I agree | 22:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Use six.text_type() when logging Instance object https://review.openstack.org/461912 | 22:26 |
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| melwitt | mriedem, dansmith: there's the hopefully final version. ^ I'm not sure if the unit test is good enough, if I should instead do an exact comparison of the repr | 22:29 |
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| melwitt | clarkb: the repr is already converting to ascii with no errors. the UnicodeDecodeError is raised here https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/2e576f5/Lib/logging/__init__.py#L338 which implies it's trying to do an implicit conversion to unicode. I don't understand that | 22:36 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: nit inline | 22:40 |
| mriedem | otherwise lgtm | 22:40 |
| melwitt | mriedem: k, looking | 22:40 |
| melwitt | ah, thanks | 22:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Use six.text_type() when logging Instance object https://review.openstack.org/461912 | 22:45 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: should you be using assertIsInstance instead of assertIs? | 22:50 |
| mriedem | i'm not entirely sure what the difference is, but i thought assertIs was like, == but without checking __eq__ | 22:50 |
| mriedem | like same object in memory | 22:50 |
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| mriedem | https://docs.python.org/2/library/unittest.html#unittest.TestCase.assertIs | 22:51 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: I tried that first and it failed and said to check exact type, use assertIs https://docs.python.org/2/library/unittest.html#unittest.TestCase.assertIsInstance | 22:51 |
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| mriedem | oh huh, weird | 22:51 |
| mriedem | ok | 22:52 |
| mriedem | +2 | 22:52 |
| melwitt | thanks | 22:52 |
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| mriedem | mtreinish: a few things in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459470/ yet | 22:59 |
| dansmith | mriedem: is and == are different | 23:01 |
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| mtreinish | mriedem: ok, I'll respin that now | 23:03 |
| dansmith | >>> 1 == True | 23:03 |
| dansmith | True | 23:03 |
| dansmith | >>> 1 is True | 23:03 |
| dansmith | False | 23:03 |
| dansmith | mriedem: ah you said it above and I missed.. "same object in memory" is right | 23:04 |
| dansmith | mriedem: but assertIsInstance is a subclass check | 23:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack/nova master: Remove cloudpipe APIs https://review.openstack.org/459470 | 23:16 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: ^^^ that should address your comments | 23:16 |
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