Thursday, 2017-04-06

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openstackgerritSujitha proposed openstack/nova master: Add BDM to InstancePayload  https://review.openstack.org/44877900:16
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dtpmriedem where's the [who's going to boston] page?00:39
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mriedemdansmith: remind me which services can be in cell000:47
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dansmithmriedem: anything but compute00:51
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mriedemhmm00:55
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openstackgerritSteven Webster proposed openstack/nova master: Update nova network info when doing rebuild for evacuate operation  https://review.openstack.org/38285301:00
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openstackgerritSteven Webster proposed openstack/nova master: Fix port update exception when unshelving an instance with PCI devices  https://review.openstack.org/45393801:01
mriedemdansmith: alright i've done all i could https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442162/01:03
mriedem+2s up and down before and after that one though01:03
mriedemit should be easy to resolve, just missing some error handling in other apis01:03
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: Support tag instances when boot  https://review.openstack.org/39432101:35
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openstackgerritMaciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add deprecate-nova-consoleauth spec  https://review.openstack.org/45006304:21
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: List/show all server migration types  https://review.openstack.org/43060804:57
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Remove version 1.1 support  https://review.openstack.org/45398005:29
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openstackgerritLingyong Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Use HostAddressOpt for opts that accept IP and hostnames  https://review.openstack.org/45399106:23
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openstackgerritSilvan Kaiser proposed openstack/nova master: Removes potentially bad exit value from accepted list in Quobyte volume driver  https://review.openstack.org/45353706:41
openstackgerritSpencer Yu proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Nova client should retry with Retry-After value  https://review.openstack.org/44776606:44
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: Support tag instances when boot  https://review.openstack.org/39432106:48
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove the usage of extension black/white list opt in scheduler hints  https://review.openstack.org/45083507:12
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove config opts for extension black/white list  https://review.openstack.org/45083607:13
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openstackgerritSpencer Yu proposed openstack/nova master: Some ip addresses in unit tests are invalid  https://review.openstack.org/45401407:32
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openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Allow PUT and POST without bodies  https://review.openstack.org/44762507:37
openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: placement: Add Traits API to placement service  https://review.openstack.org/37620007:37
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openstackgerritTadas Ustinavičius proposed openstack/nova master: Implements: blueprint custom-emulator-path  https://review.openstack.org/45401807:40
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openstackgerritSpencer Yu proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Nova client should retry with Retry-After value  https://review.openstack.org/44776607:48
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openstackgerritShunli Zhou proposed openstack/nova master: Transform servergroup.create notification  https://review.openstack.org/45402307:52
openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove config opts for extension black/white list  https://review.openstack.org/45083607:53
openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove the extension check for os-networks in servers API  https://review.openstack.org/45083707:54
openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove the json-schema extension point of server create  https://review.openstack.org/45119407:54
alex_xugmann: ^ apprecate for that :)07:54
alex_xus/apprecate/appreciate07:55
openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove the stevedore extension point for server create  https://review.openstack.org/45119507:55
openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for '/servers' endpoint instead of stevedore  https://review.openstack.org/44586407:55
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gmannalex_xu: np!, just rebased the series.07:56
gmannalex_xu: i think you can re approve those as just rebase ?07:57
alex_xugmann: yea, I think I can07:57
openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove '/servers' extensions info from controllers  https://review.openstack.org/45357107:57
gmannalex_xu: great, hope you had good vacation :)07:58
alex_xugmann: thanks a lot :)07:58
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openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Deprecate floatingip actions proxy API  https://review.openstack.org/38688808:01
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openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Deprecate floatingip actions proxy API  https://review.openstack.org/38688808:02
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: fixed typos and reword stable api doc  https://review.openstack.org/44231008:08
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Remove version 1.1 support  https://review.openstack.org/45398008:11
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openstackgerritLingyong Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Use HostAddressOpt for opts that accept IP and hostnames  https://review.openstack.org/45399108:21
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openstackgerritPavel Gluschak (scsnow) proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: honor disk_format=ploop image metadata property  https://review.openstack.org/42974508:31
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: Add a removeFloatingIp example  https://review.openstack.org/45302608:33
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rsjethaniHi i am getting error: Require both a host and instance NUMA topology to fit instance on host08:35
johnthetubaguyalex_xu: gmann: quick question on this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45083608:37
rsjethanion kvm host all is fine but if i use virtualbox or even vmware esxi based host i get above error08:37
johnthetubaguyrsjethani: that sounds like you are requesting a feature that isn't supported on that virt driver type, sfinucan may know more about that08:38
johnthetubaguyalex_xu: gmann: wasn't 100% sure about the reno08:38
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rsjethanijohnthetubaguy, but this only happens in a multinode setup if i go for one vm setup it works everwhere08:39
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gmannjohnthetubaguy: alex_xu but we do remove those from config options also08:40
gmannjohnthetubaguy: alex_xu https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450836/4/nova/conf/osapi_v21.py08:40
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johnthetubaguyrsjethani: sorry, not sure why that would happen, sfinucan may be online in a bit and could help08:41
rsjethanijohnthetubaguy, ok thanks will ask him08:41
johnthetubaguyrsjethani: certainly not all drivers support NUMA awareness, sounds like a host config vs flavor vs driver miss-match to me, but I don't remember the details enough08:42
johnthetubaguyrsjethani: I would check the nova.conf on both of your hosts, to make sure they match up, but thats a total random guess08:42
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johnthetubaguygmann: sorry, not sure I get your question, totally +1 removing those configs08:42
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johnthetubaguygmann: it looks like we did make use of them until they were removed in that patch though?08:43
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gmannjohnthetubaguy: i mean those options were deprecated and in that patch we removed so need reno right08:43
johnthetubaguyyep, we need the reno08:43
johnthetubaguyits just it says the options were not honored anywhere, but I think they were08:43
gmannahh, i got now08:43
openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Remove config opts for extension black/white list  https://review.openstack.org/45083608:44
gmannjohnthetubaguy: alex_xu did we disable/enable extensions based on that ?08:45
johnthetubaguygmann: thats what the code suggests, yeah08:45
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gmannjohnthetubaguy: looks fine now, +1 thanks.08:46
openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Remove config opts for extension black/white list  https://review.openstack.org/45083608:47
johnthetubaguygmann: I added some more actions for the operators, does that make sense?08:47
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Enable cold migration with target host(1/2)  https://review.openstack.org/40895508:49
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Enable cold migration with target host(2/2)  https://review.openstack.org/40896408:50
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Add functional tests for cold migration to same host  https://review.openstack.org/41492608:50
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: Add parameters in cold migrate action  https://review.openstack.org/41004208:51
gmannjohnthetubaguy: nice, +1 on policy things, operator need to care extra no unwanted things are exposed now08:52
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Avoid forcing translation on logging calls  https://review.openstack.org/41387608:52
gmanni am wondering if someone encounter that08:52
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Avoid forcing translation on logging calls  https://review.openstack.org/41387608:52
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johnthetubaguygmann: I think anyone that set the extension list and has overridden policy has to worry about that08:53
johnthetubaguythats probably like three people, but I know some folks do that08:53
gmannyea08:54
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gmannlet's see if we get some mail on that like on user_id enforcement stuff08:55
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openstackgerritGábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.volume_detach notification  https://review.openstack.org/40867608:59
openstackgerritNidhiMittalHada proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Nova volume-attach doesn't care for device name  https://review.openstack.org/45404809:04
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johnthetubaguygmann: its OK, this one is just work folks need to do, they can still disable all those APIs using policy. The user_id folks couldn't meet their use cases because we don't have hierarchical quotas09:33
gmannjohnthetubaguy: yea, they can alter based on their need09:34
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sfinucanjohnthetubaguy: Looks like rsjethani didn't hang around09:34
sfinucanfwiw, NUMA support is libvirt/kvm only09:35
sfinucanoh, and HyperV now/soon, thanks to claudiub09:35
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openstackgerritShunli Zhou proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox from unit/cells/test_cells_messaging.py  https://review.openstack.org/44802109:36
claudiubnuma support?09:40
claudiubsince a while actually09:40
claudiubwhen was it... ocata or newton09:40
claudiubocata09:41
claudiubhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/282407/09:41
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openstackgerritShunli Zhou proposed openstack/nova master: Transform servergroup.create notification  https://review.openstack.org/45402310:42
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kashyapThos running current DevStack, got a successful run with today's Git?10:54
kashyapI'm hittting this:10:54
kashyap2017-04-06 10:49:03.077 | IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/stack/src/cloud/requirements/.venv/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pyparsing-2.1.10.dist-info/METADATA'10:54
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Allow PUT and POST without bodies  https://review.openstack.org/44762511:00
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Idempotent PUT /resource_classes/{name}  https://review.openstack.org/44879111:00
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: placement: Add Traits API to placement service  https://review.openstack.org/37620011:01
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openstackgerritLingyong Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Use HostAddressOpt for opts that accept IP and hostnames  https://review.openstack.org/45399111:03
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kashyapIt seems to be an instance of - https://github.com/pypa/setuptools/issues/951 ("race condition replacing a setuptools dependency IOError METADATA no such file")11:22
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Update "Reserve NUMA nodes with PCI devices attached"  https://review.openstack.org/45411711:33
sfinucanWhat's the official policy on the nova command-line clients now (vs. the libs)? Are they still recommended/supported?11:34
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openstackgerritXieYingYun proposed openstack/nova master: Optimize the link address  https://review.openstack.org/45412011:37
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openstackgerritDinesh Bhor proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor: Move post method to APIValidationTestCase base class  https://review.openstack.org/36468711:43
openstackgerritLingyong Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/45413011:43
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openstackgerritGábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.volume_detach notification  https://review.openstack.org/40867612:05
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openstackgerritXueFeng Liu proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Revise `nova list` description  https://review.openstack.org/45414812:16
johnthetubaguysfinucan: which ones?12:19
johnthetubaguysfinucan: I think the problem is getting microversion support into OSC, I lost track of how that is going12:20
sfinucanjohnthetubaguy: For example, `nova list`12:20
sfinucanvs. `openstack server list`12:20
johnthetubaguysfinucan: right, so specifically just python-novaclient then12:21
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sfinucanjohnthetubaguy: Oops - s/clients/client/12:21
sfinucanYeah - python-novaclient12:21
johnthetubaguyah, cool12:22
gabor_antaljohnthetubaguy, sfinucan: would you please have a look at volume_attach notification transformation? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401992/12:22
johnthetubaguyI mean I hate nova-manage, but we will always need something to bootstrap12:22
johnthetubaguygabor_antal: I think the notifications are on my hit list, just snowed under right now12:22
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/45389612:22
johnthetubaguysfinucan: trying to find the reference on this12:22
gabor_antaljohnthetubaguy: thanks12:23
johnthetubaguysfinucan: here we go: https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-specs/specs/deprecate-cli.html12:23
johnthetubaguysfinucan: I believe thats still the plan, the issue is microversion12:23
johnthetubaguys12:23
johnthetubaguysfinucan: I believe we are still adding features in python-novaclient till we get OSC caught up12:24
sfinucanjohnthetubaguy: ^ that's the key bit12:24
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sfinucanI wasn't sure whether we should be reviewing/accepting new features to python-novaclient12:24
johnthetubaguyI believe we still are12:25
sfinucanIt seems we should12:25
sfinucanindeed12:25
johnthetubaguyI would check with matt when he is on, he might know how the other efforts are going, or maybe sdague thinking about it12:25
sfinucanjohnthetubaguy: I'll do just that12:27
sfinucanjohnthetubaguy: Also, seeing as you've expressed displeasure with nova-manage, you might want to look at [1] at some point [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:bp/move-nova-cmds-to-cliff12:28
sfinucan#shamelessplug12:28
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openstackgerritBob Ball proposed openstack/nova master: Use physical utilisation for cached images  https://review.openstack.org/35386212:44
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openstackgerritGábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.volume_attach notification  https://review.openstack.org/40199213:21
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njohnstonHi, quick question!  Did the os-quota-sets API exist in Icehouse?  I have an old Icehouse installation I am trying to grab info from, and when I curl to https://${NOVA_URL}/v2/os-quota-sets/${TENANT_ID}/detail I get a 404 Not Found.13:23
mriedempeter-hamilton: your team might be able to help with this https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/151670313:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1516703 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "crypto.py generates certs with SHA-1 digest" [Medium,New]13:24
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peter-hamiltonmriedem: taking a look13:32
johnthetubaguysfinucan: I thought we said no to that spec at the PTG?13:32
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johnthetubaguysfinucan: something tells me we didn't hit that till you had left though, so it wasn't a real discussion13:33
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sfinucanjohnthetubaguy: It was no to use click and yes to using cliff13:33
sfinucanthat's per mriedem's comments on the spec, anyway13:33
johnthetubaguysfinucan: ah... so they need more different names :)13:33
sfinucanjohnthetubaguy: You're telling me. I wrote a sphinx extension for cliff and then referenced click in all the docs for same13:34
sfinucan:)13:34
sfinucanAnyway, long story short: I don't need a spec for the work I'm doing this cycle, so I've retargeted that to Queens. Still using the blueprint to group the work though13:34
johnthetubaguyOK13:35
johnthetubaguyI have filed a correction note in my brian13:35
mriedemnjohnston: yes https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/icehouse-eol/nova/api/openstack/compute/contrib/quotas.py#L24013:35
openstackgerritGábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.volume_detach notification  https://review.openstack.org/40867613:35
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mriedemnjohnston: https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/#quota-sets-os-quota-sets13:36
johnthetubaguymriedem: njohnston: I wonder if you have to turn on the extension in the API, if you go back that far, or rather your config might have turned it off13:36
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mriedemjohnthetubaguy: wanted to ask you about this given you're familiarity with all things caching scheduler https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453916/13:38
mriedemjohnthetubaguy: i assume rax is setting CONF.filter_scheduler.track_instance_changes = False?13:38
njohnstonjohnthetubaguy mriedem: I assumed that call was how Horizon was displaying it's array of quota pie charts, since the data returned is pretty much perfect for it.  So since I see the pie charts in my Horizon I was hopeful it would work.13:38
mriedemso the computes don't send instance updates to the caching scheduler, which doesn't use them13:38
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mriedemnjohnston: to debug your curl request, you could use nova client with the --debug option13:39
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openstackgerritDinesh Bhor proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor: Move post method to APIValidationTestCase base class  https://review.openstack.org/36468713:39
mriedemnjohnston: nova --debug quota-show tenant_id13:39
johnthetubaguymriedem: not sure we are running a new enough nova13:39
mriedem* nova --debug quota-show --tenant <tenant_id> --detail13:39
mriedemjohnthetubaguy: i think those are pretty old options13:40
mriedemfor the instance update stuff13:40
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mriedemjohnthetubaguy: i just noticed yesterday the config docs saying track_instance_updates is only used for the filter scheduler, but it defaults to true and so nova compute is always sending those, unless you change it when you change the scheduler.driver13:41
mriedemseems we could be smarter and just not look at that option at all if you're not using the filter scheduler13:41
mriedemway back before we had a hard list of scheduler drivers and it was just loaded from classpath, we couldn't really do this13:41
mriedembut i think it's safe now13:41
johnthetubaguymaybe, added a comment on that patch, we don't actually configure the scheduler settings on any node other than the scheduler13:42
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johnthetubaguybut I like your approach, it makes more sense overall, we just need to train folks about configuration more13:42
johnthetubaguymriedem: actually, I think we proabably just turned that off because we didn't use filters that need that info13:44
johnthetubaguymriedem: but anyways, seems worth a peak13:44
mriedemso i was worried about that,13:45
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mriedembecause if you don't configure the scheduler things on the compute node,13:45
mriedemthat means you get the default, so nova compute is doing all of this extra rpc traffic to send something your scheduler doesn't care about13:45
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johnthetubaguyyeah, that does suck13:45
johnthetubaguywe had this debate a few times, we should really look at being more specific on the idea of what configurations should be set where13:46
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mriedemi didn't realize until yesterday that this was scheduler config used on the comptues13:47
mriedembut yeah it's pretty nasty13:47
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mriedemi guess the silver lining is,13:47
mriedemwhen caching scheduler is gone,13:47
mriedemso is this config option13:47
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mriedembecause the only options you'd have then are filter, chance and fake, and the latter two are test-only13:47
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bauzasmriedem: remember we have 3 drivers in tree13:48
bauzasnot only 213:48
mriedemwe have 4 drivers in tree13:48
mriedemcaching, filter, chance and fake13:48
mriedemthe scheduler.driver option uses the choices kwarg13:49
mriedemso unless you fork that, it's a ValueError to specify something else13:49
johnthetubaguyremembers macsz saying something about stevedoor^13:49
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mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conf/scheduler.py#L5813:50
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mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conf/scheduler.py#L7913:50
mriedemi don't see how ^ is right since we use choices13:50
mriedem"A custom scheduler driver. In this case, you will be responsible for                          creating and maintaining the entry point in your 'setup.cfg' file"13:50
mriedemchoices=("filter_scheduler", "caching_scheduler",                                        "chance_scheduler", "fake_scheduler"),13:51
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bauzasmriedem: FWIW, the FakeScheduler is not existing in tree13:51
bauzasafaik, it's only in the tests tree13:51
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bauzasyou can't deploy it13:51
johnthetubaguyyeah, its meant to be stevedoor I think13:51
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dansmithmriedem: yeah that scheduler config is nasty, and it's an upcall :(13:52
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: we already load with stevedore :)13:52
dansmithmriedem: that was part of the source of my frustration with this crap last week13:52
johnthetubaguyoh, maybe choices was a step too far then13:52
bauzasdansmith: oh, you weren't knowing that computes fanout the scheduler ?13:52
mriedemthe choices definitely breaks any stevedore loading of custom drivers13:52
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dansmithbauzas: I knew we had this but it's not something I think about much13:53
bauzasdansmith: maybe we could use placement rather, because it's for providing aggregate and instance values13:53
dansmithbauzas: we can't use placement for the affinity bits yet, which is what this is for, AFAIK13:54
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/fe3d6dba3d1db8f97dab4baffcc11dda5636809613:54
bauzasdansmith: I created those RPCAPI methods because I wasn't accepting the scheduler filters calling DB13:54
bauzasmriedem: anyway, operators can run custom filters that call their own scheduler :)13:54
mriedemanyway i'm pretty sure https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conf/scheduler.py#L79 doesn't work13:54
mriedembauzas: that's fine13:54
mriedembut if you can't load up your own scheduler "driver" we should remove this line https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conf/scheduler.py#L7913:55
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bauzasmriedem: I'm fine with stopping to have a custom driver13:55
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/6832a417c93046750ec7eff51eb59be802fd70dc13:55
dane-fichtermriedem: peter mentioned that you wanted us to look into https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1516703 ?13:55
openstackLaunchpad bug 1516703 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "crypto.py generates certs with SHA-1 digest" [Medium,New]13:55
bauzasrather, in case operators want to use their own scheduler, they just need to use a filter13:55
johnthetubaguymriedem: yeah, leaving the custom bit in there is misleading/inconsistent13:55
mriedemdane-fichter: yeah it's just an old bug, if it doesn't make sense we should invalidate or mark as won't fix13:56
bauzasmriedem: like I also said, https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conf/scheduler.py#L61 is wrong, because fake_scheduler doesn't exist in tree13:56
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johnthetubaguymriedem: that might actually be a hyper-v thing from claudiub and team?13:56
mriedemit has to be in choices to workaround oslo13:56
mriedemjohnthetubaguy: not sure what that means13:57
dane-fichtermriedem: nova cert is being removed this cycle right? Seems like this functionality should be removed as well13:57
johnthetubaguymriedem: we added that for hyper-v I think13:57
mriedemdane-fichter: there is a spec for that13:57
mriedemjohnthetubaguy: added what for hyperv?13:57
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mriedemfake_scheduler?13:57
johnthetubaguyx.509 cert generation13:57
johnthetubaguyto replace the ssh keypair type13:57
bauzasdansmith: anyway, I tried to think about reschedules13:57
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bauzasdansmith: I still think we need them13:57
bauzasbecause of X or Y13:57
dansmithX or Y?13:58
mriedemnova meeting in 2 minutes13:58
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openstackgerritRoman Podoliaka proposed openstack/osc-placement master: WIP: implement API version 1.0  https://review.openstack.org/45187714:00
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove a fallacy in scheduler.driver config option help text  https://review.openstack.org/45419614:02
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claudiubmriedem: johnthetubaguy you mean the x509 certificates?14:04
johnthetubaguyyeah, for windows auth14:04
claudiubthose would the windows equivalent of ssh keys14:04
claudiubso, not hyper-v specific, windows guests specific14:04
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dane-fichterjohnthetubaguy: So what I'm hearing is that generate_winrm_x509_cert() is still needed?14:05
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johnthetubaguydane-fichter: I think so, yeah14:05
johnthetubaguydane-fichter: even after we kill nova-cert14:05
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add functional test for two-cell scheduler behaviors  https://review.openstack.org/45200614:05
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dane-fichterjohnthetubaguy: ok. good to know.14:05
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johnthetubaguydane-fichter: although I am willing to believe its something we should deprecate in the API, us generating certs is probably the wrong thing to do for winRM, but I am not sure14:06
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johnthetubaguydane-fichter: needs a look, I guess14:06
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dane-fichterjohnthetubaguy: I'll take a look at it.14:08
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ildikovjohnthetubaguy: mriedem: lyarwood: hi, a quick reminder that we plan to switch to 1600 UTC with the Cinder-Nova meeting today14:16
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johnthetubaguyah, I forgot about tht14:17
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: sorry, I should've sent out a reminder mail earlier, I only got to propose a patch to change the slot officially, it's not merged yet14:17
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ildikovjohnthetubaguy: can you make it to the earlier slot?14:17
johnthetubaguyildikov: that should be OK14:18
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: cool, tnx14:18
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openstackgerritScott Moser proposed openstack/nova master: Limit exposure of network device types to the guest.  https://review.openstack.org/40088314:18
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openstackgerritScott Moser proposed openstack/nova master: Limit exposure of network device types to the guest.  https://review.openstack.org/40088314:27
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mriedemsfinucan: artom: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/functional/test_metadata.py is what i was thinking of14:38
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mriedemwe'd have to fix mikal's sins here for network data https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/functional/test_metadata.py#L6414:38
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mriedemsince ^ is all using nova-network right now14:39
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bauzasmriedem: wait, we unset instance.host when we offload the instance from the compute ?14:44
bauzas(after shelving)14:44
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bauzasI know it requires a reschedule, but I was thinking we were keeping the reference before the unshelve and that were just overriding the host value14:45
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dansmithbauzas: no, once offloaded, it loses host, AFAIK14:45
bauzasdansmith: so in the compute?14:45
bauzasbecause AFAIK, you shelve14:45
bauzasand then, a couple of mins after (config) then it's offloaded14:45
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bauzasAFAIK, it's a periodic task running on the compute which offloads the instance off14:46
dansmithright14:46
bauzasdansmith: okay, for my knowledge, reading again the code14:47
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mriedemwe immediately offload by default14:51
mriedembauzas: ^14:51
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mriedemit's based on config14:51
johnthetubaguymriedem: +114:51
mriedemthe time defaults to 014:51
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mriedemand then yes the instance does not have a host or node set on it14:51
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bauzasmriedem: right, because the opt value is 014:52
bauzasmriedem: that's what I meant sorry14:53
bauzasit's time-based14:53
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bauzasif 0, do that now14:53
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mriedemheads up, apparently pypi mirror issues14:58
mriedemso jobs are failing14:58
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dansmithyeah15:01
dansmithwas just seeing that15:01
openstackgerritVladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova master: Support HTTP CONNECT in websocket proxy  https://review.openstack.org/45422615:02
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bauzasmriedem: dansmith: I'm puzzled, can't find where instance.host is unset in the compute manager method for shelve offloading15:26
mriedembauzas: in the RT15:27
mriedemsuper tight coupling15:27
mriedemequals super fun15:27
bauzasmriedem: orly? man15:27
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dansmithhere? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L4400-L440015:27
mriedemactually yeah15:27
mriedemnot RT15:27
mriedemi was thinking of ALLOW_RESOURCE_REMOVAL in rt15:28
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dansmithtook me like eight whole seconds :)15:28
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L4396 is what i was thinking of15:28
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mriedemwhich uses https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/resource_tracker.py#L93915:28
mriedemand https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/vm_states.py#L7815:28
mriedemalaski had to draw that picture for me once15:28
mriedemi'll always be indebted15:28
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bauzasmriedem: I was surprised when you said that hence my "orly"15:31
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bauzasmriedem: because I don't remember where in RT we do set instance.host15:31
bauzaswe play with compute tracking15:32
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bauzasso it would defend the purpose of the RT if we would play with the instance fields in there15:32
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bauzasdansmith: thanks, missed that - so I'm blind15:32
dansmith:)15:32
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mriedemi would not be surprised at all of RT or Claims messed with instance fields15:33
mriedems/of/if/15:33
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bauzasmriedem: they look them up15:34
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bauzasmriedem: but they don't touch them15:34
bauzasor I would seriously -2 any change for that15:34
bauzasresource *tracking*15:35
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bauzasnot resource *setting* :p15:35
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mriedemyou might -2 that but that doesn't mean someone else won't +W before you see it15:36
cdentfa15:38
cdentww15:38
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bauzasmriedem: question about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453859/1/nova/compute/api.py15:41
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mriedemshoot15:41
bauzasmriedem: if we nullify instance.host when shelve_offload, why do we need to verify the instance state too ?15:42
mriedembauzas: read the commit message?15:42
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bauzasmriedem: ok, this time, you can *really* blame me in public15:43
mriedembasically that whole block is about cases where the instance isn't scheduled to a cell15:43
mriedemor that was the original assumption15:43
mriedemthat assumption breaks down when instance.host is None and vm_state is shelved offloaded15:43
mriedemb/c that means the instance did get scheduled to a cell15:43
mriedemand we need to do the old style local delete flow below15:43
mriedemall explained in the commit message in exquisite detail15:43
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bauzasmriedem: I see L1974 so I understand now15:45
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mriedemfwiw i'm going to be trying to unwind this mess once this fix is in15:45
mriedemdansmith: i eagerly await your updates to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442162/15:46
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mriedemb/c then we can get the bottom 5 changes in15:46
dansmithmriedem: yep in my queue15:47
mriedemi drank one too many cups of coffee to counteract my nyquil hangover and now i'm all amped up15:47
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mriedemildikov: just an issue with the wording in the reno https://review.openstack.org/#/c/444253/16:39
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Teach HostAPI about cells  https://review.openstack.org/44216216:40
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Sort CellMappingList.get_all() for safety  https://review.openstack.org/44317416:40
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add get_by_instance_uuids() to InstanceMappingList  https://review.openstack.org/44329216:40
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Clean up ClientRouter debt  https://review.openstack.org/44448716:40
mriedemdansmith: are you still using this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421399/16:40
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make server_groups determine deleted-ness from InstanceMappingList  https://review.openstack.org/44329316:40
dansmithmriedem: have you reviewed that yet?16:40
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Remove Mitaka-era service version check  https://review.openstack.org/44286116:40
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add workaround to disable group policy check upcall  https://review.openstack.org/44273616:40
mriedemdansmith: reviewed what yet?16:40
dansmithmriedem: the thing I just pushed up16:40
dansmithmriedem: what about now?16:40
dansmithmriedem: now?16:40
mriedemoh16:40
mriedemi see16:40
mriedemlet me get out my red pen16:41
dansmithmriedem: I haven't gotten to the actual subnode part of my devstack patch to know if I need that again or not16:41
dansmithmriedem: I think I will16:41
dansmithmriedem: if it's bothering you I can resubmit it under my name so you can abandon16:41
dansmithI've long since given up trying to keep my dashboard clean16:41
ildikovmriedem: cool, I'll fix it now, tnx16:41
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mriedemdansmith: it's fine, i just clean up every few weeks16:44
mdnadeemildikov, dansmith , mriedem , Hello guys, i have a query16:45
mdnadeemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/newton/nova/scheduler/filters/aggregate_image_properties_isolation.py#L4216:45
mdnadeem^^  It returns only core image property16:46
mriedemyes16:46
mriedemyour out of tree image properties won't work16:46
mdnadeemI have set some custom property to my image , however i cant get it there16:46
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mriedembecause of https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/newton/nova/objects/image_meta.py#L21316:46
mdnadeemmriedem, any way to use custom image property ?16:47
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/newton/nova/objects/image_meta.py#L47816:47
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mriedemmdnadeem: upstream it16:47
mriedemor hack that object and live with the version changes16:47
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mdnadeemmriedem, is this a bug ?16:48
mriedemmdnadeem: no, it's by design16:49
mriedema wild west of custom image properties is a barrier to interoperability16:49
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mriedemflavor extra specs is still a wild west if that helps16:49
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mdnadeemmriedem, I have a requirement to use custom image property, should i propose a fix upstream for the same?16:49
mriedemmdnadeem: if you have an image property that makes sense to upstream then i encourage you to do so16:50
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mriedembecause chances are someone else has a similar use case16:50
mdnadeemmriedem, ok, Thanks a lot :)16:50
mriedemyw16:50
mdnadeemmriedem++16:50
mriedemdansmith: i'm brain isn't working on why api/scheduler/conductor show up in cell0 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442162/19/nova/compute/api.py@4433 - i thought those would only show up if we start the services?16:52
mriedems/i'm/my16:52
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mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/8d9bf947a4c8654a30e016a5d95d9bec55447506/nova/service.py#L15416:54
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openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova master: Deprecate the Cinder API v2 support  https://review.openstack.org/44425316:56
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dansmithmriedem: they're going to show up in whatever db is configured in their config file17:00
dansmithmriedem: which in my devstack patch, and in real deploys after we're past this hump, will be cell0 I expect17:01
mriedemright, which means you f'ed up and started services with a nova.conf pointing at cell0 right?17:01
mriedemhmm17:01
dansmithI mean, you could just choose a random cell to have them show up in, but I dunno why you would17:01
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mriedemyeah i guess that's a good point17:01
mriedemthey aren't in the api db17:01
mriedemthey wouldn't be in a random cell db17:01
dansmithright17:02
dansmithcell0 seems like a fine place for them to be17:02
mriedemright now they are the nova db b/c we have 1 cell17:02
dansmithright17:02
mriedemok17:02
mriedemand nova-compute goes in nova1, nova2, etc et17:02
dansmithright never any computes in cell0,17:02
mriedemi'll pay you $5 for that topology diagram17:02
dansmithbut the api level services seem appropriate17:02
dansmithhah17:02
mriedemmy friend abe lincoln would love to see it17:02
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dansmithI have a shitty one sketched out for my talk in boston, but it's more op-focused with pictures of computers and stuff17:03
dansmithdoesn't really have this level of detail17:04
mriedemyou could do two pictures :)17:04
mriedemhigh level cells topology17:04
mriedemand then what's inside a cell17:04
mriedemshowing the superconductor thing will be important17:04
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dansmithyeah17:09
mriedemdone with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442162/ btw17:09
mriedemgonna get lunch17:09
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melwittjroll: do you know how ironic nodes get registered as resource providers in placement? I'm not finding anything in the code so far17:24
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jrollmelwitt: they're each presented as a node to the resource tracker, which does the registering17:24
* jroll looks for code17:24
melwittjroll: okay, thanks. I see the stuff in resource tracker but didn't see the connection with the ironic driver17:25
jrollmelwitt: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/resource_tracker.py#L75417:25
jrollthat returns CUSTOM_FOO or whatever from ironic17:25
jrollironic driver*17:25
melwittah, thank you17:25
jrollno problem17:25
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Teach HostAPI about cells  https://review.openstack.org/44216217:32
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make scheduler target cells to get compute node instance info  https://review.openstack.org/43989117:32
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Sort CellMappingList.get_all() for safety  https://review.openstack.org/44317417:32
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add get_by_instance_uuids() to InstanceMappingList  https://review.openstack.org/44329217:32
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Clean up ClientRouter debt  https://review.openstack.org/44448717:32
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make server_groups determine deleted-ness from InstanceMappingList  https://review.openstack.org/44329317:32
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Remove Mitaka-era service version check  https://review.openstack.org/44286117:32
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add workaround to disable group policy check upcall  https://review.openstack.org/44273617:32
dansmithmriedem: bottom patch got hit by the mirror thing so I rebased and re-pushed.. so it needs a re-=W17:32
dansmither, re-+W17:33
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mriedemdansmith: got it, so the first 5 are ready17:57
mriedemlooks like typo city in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442736/17:57
dansmithyeah17:58
dansmiththanks17:58
cfriesendoes anyone know why we default to not returning the userdata when showing server details to a normal user, but show it for an admin user?17:58
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mriedemnope18:03
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EmilienMmriedem: hey, I think I'll abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453338/ if nobody approves it, it needed to land before you tag next week but since're approaching next week, I can we can wait now for the tag...18:04
mriedemwfm18:05
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Sort CellMappingList.get_all() for safety  https://review.openstack.org/44317418:11
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Clean up ClientRouter debt  https://review.openstack.org/44448718:11
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add workaround to disable group policy check upcall  https://review.openstack.org/44273618:11
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cdentmelwitt: do I recall that you were going to adjust the project/user association in placement to use usages?18:14
melwittcdent: yes, I had intended to propose an amendment to the spec yesterday but didn't get to it yet18:15
cdentah, cool, that would explain why I can't find it :) thanks18:15
melwittheh, sorry about that18:15
cdentno problem, you're the one who is making with the good works18:16
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova master: Remove the extension check for os-networks in servers API  https://review.openstack.org/45083718:51
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova master: Remove the json-schema extension point of server create  https://review.openstack.org/45119418:51
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova master: Remove the stevedore extension point for server create  https://review.openstack.org/45119518:52
sdaguemriedem: you want in on - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448882 before I approve (nova cert removal)18:54
sdague?18:54
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diana_clarkeAnyone have time to put my last nova patch out of its misery? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447688/ thx!18:59
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dansmithI bet sdague wants that one19:01
mriedemsdague: probably19:01
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stevemarmriedem: why you gotta break osc for!19:02
mriedemstevemar: novaclient 8.0?19:02
stevemaryah19:02
mriedemstevemar: upper-constraints?19:02
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stevemari assume the gate is fine, someone pinged me from BB about latest pip install of osc is broken19:03
stevemarcause they don't UC19:03
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mriedemnuts to them19:03
mriedemi don't work for BB anymore sucka19:03
stevemar:)19:03
stevemarwe'll fix it up19:03
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mriedembtw, more than 6 months to notice the deprecation warning19:04
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mriedemsdague: did anyone from ec2api ever chime in?19:04
mriedemb/c this will break them19:05
mriedemoh i see ftersin did19:05
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mriedemsdague: +W19:10
mriedemwhen can we remove os-cloudpipe?19:12
mriedemmacsz: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/remove-nova-cert19:13
mriedem:(19:13
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mriedemi created it19:16
macszmriedem: ?19:16
mriedemyou hadn't created the actual bp in lp19:16
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macszoh, i lost something19:16
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mriedemwho wants it? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453859/19:18
mriedemdansmith: i'll trade you ^ for your workaround patch19:18
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dansmithk19:19
macszwaswas wondering what happened but it seems that once more you were faster than me and created the bp, mriedem19:19
dansmithmriedem: heh, that conflicts with my hostapi patch.. damn you19:19
mriedemit shouldn't19:20
mriedemyours doesn't touch the delete path19:20
sdaguemriedem: when ever anyone writes the deprecation spec19:20
sdagueI am sure that it hasn't worked in years19:21
mriedemi would, but (1) i don't want to and (2) i'm not sure i even understand what it is to explain it and why we want to remove it, except it's not supported19:21
mriedemsome kind of direct vpn image download to the vm or something?19:21
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mriedemooo https://www.mirantis.com/blog/cloudpipe-image-creation-automation/19:22
dansmithmriedem: well, gerrit says it does.. it's fine anyway19:22
mriedemdamn the link to the cactus release docs don't work anymore...19:22
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sdaguemriedem: it all depends on vlan nova network stuff right? which means whenever the great nova-network delete happens it's all definitely bust19:25
openstackgerritSujitha proposed openstack/nova master: Add sync_instances action in os-cells API  https://review.openstack.org/45336619:26
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mriedemyeah i guess19:26
mriedemso cloudpipe just basically creates a vm and then you ssh into that vm to get into the internal tenant network?19:27
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mriedemyeah anyway, nova-network plus unmaintained plus neutron vpnaas19:28
mriedemequals death19:28
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mriedemooo https://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2012/06/20/setup-cloud-pipe-vpn-in-openstack/ talks about using nova x509-create-cert which relies on none other than the nova-cert service...19:33
mriedemwhich we just said we were going to kill19:33
mriedemso, as part of the nova-cert removal, we probably also need to deprecate os-cloudpipe19:34
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openstackgerritMathieu Gagné proposed openstack/nova master: Add ability to signal and perform online volume size change  https://review.openstack.org/45432219:51
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova master: Change livesnapshot to true by default  https://review.openstack.org/45432320:01
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Deprecate certs commands and APIs  https://review.openstack.org/45432620:08
mriedemmacsz: ^20:08
macszmriedem: should i draft a spec for it?20:09
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mriedemmacsz: for what?20:12
mriedemcloudpipe/20:12
mriedemsure20:12
macszor can we smuggle it under the cert deprecation banner?20:12
sdaguemacsz: I'm pro smuggle20:12
mriedemif we smuggle, we should probably amend the spec20:13
sdaguemriedem: yeh20:13
macszthe spec was merged, but i can also do a follow-up patch that modifies the current spec20:13
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sdaguemacsz: ++ an ammend would be great20:13
macszyeah, shorter way to say what i meant20:13
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openstackgerritSihan Wang proposed openstack/nova master: Update checking vm state in vmware driver  https://review.openstack.org/45432820:20
macszmriedem: it seems that os-cloudpipe is already deprecated20:22
macszhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/api-ref/source/os-cloudpipe.inc20:22
mriedemjust in the docs20:23
mriedemit doesn't return an error though on any microversion like 2.36 would for listing networks20:23
mriedemi don't know if we're proposing to just remove it, like os-certificates, or deprecating it with a microversion, but if we remove nova-network and nova-cert, then it seems kind of pointless to do the microversoin20:24
mriedemsdague: ^ thoughts?20:24
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macszdoc mentions that os-cloudpipe works only with nova-net, so there is really no point in having it around, with or without nova-cert, it seems20:26
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mriedemwe still have nova-net20:27
mriedemalthough20:27
mriedemnova-net is cells v1 only now20:27
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mriedemand i assume os-cloudpipe doesn't work with cells v120:27
mriedemit might, it's a weird orchestration api that creates an instance for you20:29
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mriedemwith a configured vpn image20:29
mriedemso the cloudpipe api should have been deprecated with 2.36 when we did the other nova-net stuff, like multinic20:30
mriedemalex_xu: is deprecating the multinic api https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384261/20:30
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mriedemsince it's nova-net really20:30
mriedemmaybe we should do cloudpipe and multinic in the same spec?20:30
openstackgerritSihan Wang proposed openstack/nova master: Update checking vm state in vmware driver  https://review.openstack.org/45432820:30
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mriedembut if you need os-certificates to use os-cloudpipe and we remove os-certificates, then...20:31
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sdaguemriedem: yeh, I feel like we should just couple it to the os-certificates delete20:31
mriedemthat's fine20:31
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macszis there a spec for os-certificates?20:33
mriedemdansmith: so i'm trying to think about impacts with your workaround config, and what if any other config options we should note are related to that one, like track_instance_changes20:33
mriedemsince i think track_instance_changes is tied to affinity20:33
mriedemmacsz: your one for removing nova-cert :)20:33
mriedemremember?!20:34
macszxD20:34
macszyeah, i do... :D20:34
mriedemdansmith: i'm trying to sort out where the instance info stuff that the computes send up to the scheduler is used20:34
macszdid not connect the dots between nova-cert and os-certificates ;)20:34
openstackgerritMaciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add os-cloudpipe to remove-nova-cert spec  https://review.openstack.org/45433220:37
dansmithmriedem: yeah, so track changes will also not work, so maybe I should mention that in there for the connection20:43
mriedemdansmith: i left a comment about that in the review20:43
dansmithokay20:43
mriedemi'm just looking at how all of this crap gets used20:44
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dansmithit's fairly terribad20:44
mriedemand all of it is just for the affinity/anti-affinity filters/weighers it looks like20:44
dansmithright20:44
dansmithit's nuts20:44
mriedemso a ton of code just for those20:44
dansmithright20:44
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mriedemok i also need to update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453916/ since i didn't realize the compute manager and host manager were doing the exact same thing in the init20:44
dansmithclaims in the scheduler will let us do affinity without all that stuff20:44
cdentmriedem: I haven't caught up on backlog, but are you looking at the stuff that does affinity based on live host/instance info?20:45
mriedemso if you're using caching scheduler or not using these filters/weighers, and not paying attention to default options, you could have all of this extra rpc traffic and db lookups for nothing20:45
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mriedemcdent: it's the instance info stuff in the host manager and scheduler filter yeah20:45
* cdent shivers20:46
dansmiththis mess is the source of my tweet from last week :)20:46
mriedemdansmith: like https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/host_manager.py#L73120:46
mriedemif we knew you weren't using those filters/weighers, that could just be a noop20:46
mriedembut, those are defaults so i guess...20:46
cdentthose are the things that make me say that we'll never have a fully single transaction placement engine20:46
dansmithmriedem: well, also,20:46
dansmithmriedem: compute sends instance info when an instance boots,20:46
dansmithmriedem: but host manager just uses that as a trigger to re-query the db20:47
dansmithit's madness20:47
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mriedemto refresh it's cache right?20:47
dansmithyeah20:47
dansmithbut it sends the whole instance,20:47
dansmithand we just ignore it and re-query20:47
dansmithunless it sends all of them,20:47
dansmithand then we assume it's right20:47
mriedemcripes20:48
dansmithit's very complicated and wasteful20:48
mriedem          "ServerGroupAntiAffinityFilter",20:49
mriedem          "ServerGroupAffinityFilter", are default filters20:49
mriedemand filter scheduler is default20:49
mriedemand track_instance_changes is on by default20:49
mriedemoh, and20:50
mriedemall computes have a periodic task that run every 2 minutes by default to pull all instances from that host and send them to the scheduler20:50
cdenthuzzah20:51
dansmithwhich nobody can have enabled at that frequency with a reasonable number of computes I'm sure20:51
mriedemi wonder if that filters out deleted instances...20:51
mriedemoh plus that does the big default joins20:51
dansmithof course20:52
dansmithgo big or go home20:52
mriedemwell maybe we don't20:52
mriedemwe pass expected_attrs=[]20:53
mriedemto try and trick that i think20:53
dansmithokay yeah that won't do the joins then20:53
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dansmithBUT20:53
dansmithstill stupid :)20:53
mriedembut i wouldn't be surprised if there is an "if not expected_attrs: expected_attrs = DEFAULT_BIG_ASS_LIST"20:53
dansmithno it checks =None20:53
dansmith=None means default =[] means nothing20:53
mriedemi was thinking the db api20:53
mriedemso,20:54
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mriedeminstance_get_all_by_host in the db api,20:54
mriedemdoes not filter out deleted instances20:54
dansmithWAT20:54
mriedemoh wait20:54
mriedemmodel_query filters deleted right?20:54
dansmithdepends on context20:54
openstackgerritSihan Wang proposed openstack/nova master: Update checking vm state in vmware driver  https://review.openstack.org/45432820:54
mriedemdef _instance_get_all_query(context, project_only=False, joins=None):20:56
mriedem    if joins is None:20:56
mriedem        joins = ['info_cache', 'security_groups']20:56
mriedemso we are at least joining on those mofos20:56
dansmithbut should be not =None there if we're passing =[]20:56
mriedemnot there20:56
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.py#L253020:57
mriedemwe don't pass columns_to_join to _instance_get_all_query20:57
dansmithyou said we were passing expected_attrs=[] right?20:57
mriedemso it's None20:57
mriedemwe pass [] to _instances_fill_metadata20:57
mriedembut not _instance_get_all_query20:57
dansmithah20:57
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.py#L251320:57
dansmithso the funny thing is,20:57
dansmithif we just sent an empty call to that update method on the scheduler,20:57
dansmithit would do it itself, direct from the db, no big rpc involved20:58
dansmithbecause remember this goes compute->conductor->compute->scheduler over rpc20:58
dansmithbut if you just call that method with an empty list,20:58
dansmithscheduler will just pull it itself without any rpc20:58
cdentha!20:58
mriedemthat's _update_scheduler_instance_info ?20:58
dansmithor maybe something else to fool it20:58
dansmithwhatever that scheduler rpc call is20:58
cdentthat's awesome20:58
dansmithcdent: we should figure out more places to route that through20:59
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dansmithcompute->conductor->compute->twitter->facebook->compute->conductor->super-conductor->scheduler20:59
cdenti think you left out the pigeon20:59
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dansmithheh20:59
mriedemdansmith: you're talking about this right? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/host_manager.py#L76721:00
mriedemwhere it does the full pull21:00
dansmithmriedem: yeah21:00
mriedembut that's only if it doesn't already have a list for the host21:00
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/host_manager.py#L75221:01
mriedemthat gets created when the compute starts up21:01
mriedemwhich is what we were talking about yesterday21:01
dansmithsure, but we're still sending it21:01
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dansmithfor no reason21:01
mriedemyes that's dumb too21:01
dansmithwe'd have to tweak the logic there just a bit, agreed21:01
mriedemi'm just thinking https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/host_manager.py#L767 is a complete fallback21:01
mriedemif the compute host didn't send the instances on startup21:02
mriedemto register itself with the scheduler21:02
mriedemerr host manager21:02
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/host_manager.py#L761 is the compute start case21:02
mriedemwell, unless it's a new compute with no hosts21:02
dansmithwe only get here in the rpc call right?21:02
mriedemyeah21:02
dansmithotherwise if we need host info before it has called in, we just generate it ourself anyway21:02
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mriedem_update_scheduler_instance_info in the compute manager is called on (1) startup and (2) when a new instance is created21:03
mriedemyeah21:03
dansmithand in a periodic right?21:03
mriedemno21:03
mriedemthat's _sync_scheduler_instance_info21:03
mriedemthat sends the uuids21:03
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chatter29hey guys21:04
mriedemdansmith: and in instance_uuids21:04
mriedemif the set that the host manager knew about doesn't match what was passed in, it pulls them all from the db again21:04
mriedemfor that compute21:04
chatter29allah is doing21:04
chatter29sun is not doing allah is doing21:04
chatter29to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger21:04
dansmithmriedem: okay yeah, I see21:05
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dansmithmriedem: I was conflating those two I guess21:05
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dansmithmriedem: why do we have to send the whole instance?21:06
mriedembecause the host manager caches the list by host21:06
dansmithmriedem: we only really care about the uuids for affinity, AFAIK, but we're sending the instance a bunch of places from computemaanger21:06
mriedemand then the affinity filter/weigher uses those21:06
dansmithsure, but we neednly send the whole object for that21:06
mriedemlet me see how they use them21:07
dansmithneedn't21:07
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mriedemback when these were simple single-level dicts it was maybe not as big a deal21:07
mriedemnow it's a behemoth of nested goodness21:07
mriedemmaybe this is why we fucking kill ram usage in a single node devstack run :)21:07
dansmithsame number of instances regardless :)21:07
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clarkbmriedem: "remember when devstack needed 1GB of ram to run?" :)21:08
mriedeminstance group members are just instance uuids right?21:08
mriedemyeah, so this whole big ass cache of hosts -> instances for the affinity filter/weigher JUST NEEDS UUIDS21:08
mriedem'members': fields.ListOfStringsField(nullable=True),21:09
mriedemYeah InstanceGroup.members is just instance uuids21:09
dansmithmriedem: well, you can do single-instance affinity without a gorup21:09
dansmithbut again,21:09
dansmithjust an uuid :)21:10
mriedemso we agree we don't need to catch the full instance object in the host manager right?21:10
mriedem*cache21:10
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dansmithAFAIK yeah21:10
mriedemHOWEVER21:10
mriedemyou know if we changed it to just uuids,21:10
mriedemwe'd break someone's out of tree filter/weigher21:10
mriedemthat was using this to lookup some shit on the instance object fields21:11
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dansmithEDONTCARE21:11
mriedemlike, my super kewl filter checks all instances that have instance.config_driver = True and puts them on the same host!21:11
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mriedemi guess the answer for them is, well, you take the uuid, and go back to the db to look up the full instance object21:12
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cdentyes, that21:12
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mriedemok, well, maybe i'll spend some time tinkering with this for the rest of the day, starting with the unnecessary joins in the db api21:14
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mriedemsince that shouldn't be controversial21:14
mriedemwhat to name my topic branch...21:14
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openstackgerritmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Amend spec for placement project/user association  https://review.openstack.org/45435221:15
cdentmriedem: I'm very interested in this stuff so if you could keep me in the loop that would be dandy and write a helacious complete commit message that would be awesome. I'm not sure I was able to extact all the good bits from you and dan talking21:16
mriedemi'll try21:16
cdentthanks21:16
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openstackgerritmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Amend spec for placement project/user association  https://review.openstack.org/45435221:28
mriedemdansmith: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/put-host-manager-instance-info-on-a-diet21:28
mriedemsdague: ^21:28
mriedemjohnthetubaguy: ^21:28
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mriedemi'm going for specless blueprint just since it's a couple of changes21:28
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mnaserhi everyone, i suspect that we're running into weird race conditions in the CI of Kolla related to the order of services being started.. is there a 'recommended' start list?21:30
openstackgerritMathieu Gagné proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Multiple Fixed-IPs support in network information  https://review.openstack.org/31262621:30
mriedemmnaser: controller services first21:30
mriedemcomputes at the end21:30
mnasermriedem besides that, the rest shouldn't matter too much (i.e. scheduler before conductor?)21:31
mriedemscheduler depends on placement as of ocata21:31
mriedemscheduler and conductor are codependent21:31
mriedembring up the api last?21:31
mriedemyeah21:31
mnasermriedem right now, order is: placement => nova-api => nova-scheduler => nova-conductor => nova-consoleauth => nova-novncproxy => nova-spicehtml5proxy => nova-serialproxy => nova-compute21:32
mnaserhowever that order leads to this happening in gate sometimes: NotFound: Basic.publish: (404) NOT_FOUND - no exchange 'scheduler_fanout' in vhost '/'21:32
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mriedemthis is a new problem?21:33
mnaseri dont think its a nova issue but it seems to come and go so i was wondering if it was racing somewhere21:33
mriedemnever heard of that21:33
mnaserokay, so must be a kolla thing, ill try to look some more21:33
mnasermriedem nvm, docker issue.  its killing the process and mucking things up, sorry for noise21:34
mriedemnp21:35
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Fix test_instance_get_all_by_host  https://review.openstack.org/45436021:48
mriedemyay! ^ me help good21:48
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openstackgerritSivasathurappan Radhakrishnan proposed openstack/nova master: Add live-migration-force-after-timeout  https://review.openstack.org/43021821:58
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/45389622:08
openstackgerritAnusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to policies in remote_consoles.py  https://review.openstack.org/45437222:09
mriedemedleafe: trinary logic is much less readable to me when you're wrapping lines22:09
mriedemespecially when thrown into dict comprehension or something22:09
mriedemjust the worst22:09
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Don't send instance updates from compute if not using filter scheduler  https://review.openstack.org/45391622:50
openstackgerritAnusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to policies in quota_sets.py  https://review.openstack.org/45438322:52
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openstackgerritSujitha proposed openstack/nova master: Add BDM to InstancePayload  https://review.openstack.org/44877923:14
openstackgerritSujitha proposed openstack/nova master: Add keypairs field to InstancePayload  https://review.openstack.org/41973023:14
openstackgerritSujitha proposed openstack/nova master: Adding auto_disk_config field to InstancePayload  https://review.openstack.org/41918523:14
openstackgerritSujitha proposed openstack/nova master: Adding tags field to InstancePayload  https://review.openstack.org/40722823:14
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Enable cold migration with target host(1/2)  https://review.openstack.org/40895523:37
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Enable cold migration with target host(2/2)  https://review.openstack.org/40896423:38
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Add functional tests for cold migration to same host  https://review.openstack.org/41492623:38
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: Add parameters in cold migrate action  https://review.openstack.org/41004223:38
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