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| openstackgerrit | Huan Xie proposed openstack/nova: [DO NOT MERGE] Use os-xenapi repo https://review.openstack.org/393103 | 00:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rong Han proposed openstack/nova: migration.source_compute should be unchanged after finish_revert_resize. https://review.openstack.org/335270 | 01:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Send out notification about server group changes when delete instances https://review.openstack.org/393649 | 01:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox in tests/unit/objects/test_security_group https://review.openstack.org/307135 | 01:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox in tests/unit/objects/test_instance_info_cache https://review.openstack.org/307155 | 01:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox in tests/unit/objects/test_pci_device https://review.openstack.org/307615 | 01:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox in tests/unit/objects/test_compute_node https://review.openstack.org/307625 | 01:49 |
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| duonghq | hi all, anybody can review my patchset: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342043/ | 06:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/nova: PoC: add hierarchy quota driver https://review.openstack.org/391072 | 08:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jakub Pavlik proposed openstack/nova: Fix qemu-img convert image incompatability in alpine linux https://review.openstack.org/387485 | 09:07 |
| moshele | danpb: hi, I updated User-controlled SR-IOV ports spec allocation the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182242/ according to your comments | 09:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Esha Seth proposed openstack/nova: Add a no-op wait method to NetworkInfo https://review.openstack.org/393669 | 09:14 |
| fabian4 | Hi, i have a question, nova delete chinise name apeer 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 0-4: ordinal not in range(128) , how can i change it? | 09:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Choe, Cheng-Dae proposed openstack/nova: Query availability zone in a single query https://review.openstack.org/389759 | 09:16 |
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| Murali | We are facing a issue with openstack setup | 09:41 |
| Murali | unable to launch the instance | 09:41 |
| Murali | Someone have a look at this: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/98662/connection-to-libvirt-failed/ | 09:41 |
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| Murali | Any help or idea guys? | 09:56 |
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| tdurakov | wznoinsk: hi, are you around? | 10:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Call host connection callbacks asynchronously https://review.openstack.org/393869 | 10:46 |
| wznoinsk | tdurakov, hi | 10:49 |
| tdurakov | wznoinsk: during the previous l-m meeting we've discussed that you will start ml thread about ci and volunteers to move tests to upstream tempest | 10:51 |
| tdurakov | wznoinsk: could you please send a mail to openstack-dev today? | 10:51 |
| wznoinsk | tdurakov, I had a quick chat with sfinucan, I need to follow up on that with him | 10:51 |
| tdurakov | is he planning to work on that? | 10:52 |
| tdurakov | wznoinsk: ^ | 10:52 |
| wznoinsk | tdurakov, he's interested I didn't ask for details yet, sfinucan ping? | 10:52 |
| sfinucan | wznoinsk, tdurakov: That depends on what you're planning to do :) | 10:53 |
| wznoinsk | sfinucan, I guess make sure cpu pinning/numa/hugepages tests we have in intel-nfv-ci-tests repo upstream tempest compliant and have them running by gate | 10:54 |
| sfinucan | wznoinsk: Ok, but how do you plan to do that without the relevant hardware | 10:55 |
| wznoinsk | numa probably not easy but is CPU pinning not possible on any VM from any clouds I wonder? | 10:55 |
| wznoinsk | sfinucan, ^ | 10:56 |
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| wznoinsk | obviously that would cover one numa tests only, not sure that's enough either | 10:57 |
| tdurakov | wznoinsk, sfinucan, I'd expect first we need to move tests from github ci repo to upstream tempest? | 10:57 |
| sfinucan | wznoinsk: the biggest issue I know of is the lack of nested virt. afaik, this isn't an option for Rackspace-provided infra | 10:57 |
| sfinucan | tdurakov: We can't move them into the upstream tempest if they can't be run in infra. There was talk about feature flags in upstream Tempest a few cycles ago but it was dismissed | 10:58 |
| sfinucan | that might not be the case still (only infra could say for sure) but it was the policy last time I checked | 10:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Manas Mandlekar proposed openstack/nova: Don't destroy evacuated instance if host didn't change https://review.openstack.org/392620 | 10:59 |
| tdurakov | sfinucan: I think we can, just need to add several params in tempest conf | 10:59 |
| sfinucan | tdurakov: We should confirm that before doing anything else, I guess | 10:59 |
| tdurakov | wznoinsk: link to ci tests on github please? | 11:00 |
| wznoinsk | sfinucan, would you have time to submit a PS upstream for one of them (CPU pinning?) and see whether there's anything we can do to make it working? | 11:00 |
| sfinucan | fwiw, the existing NFV tests are structured as a Tempest plugin so anyone should be able to run them as is | 11:00 |
| wznoinsk | https://github.com/stackforge/intel-nfv-ci-tests | 11:00 |
| tdurakov | sfinucan: the reason I'd prefer openstack-dev ml for that discussion | 11:00 |
| sfinucan | tdurakov: github.com/openstack/intel-nfv-ci-tests | 11:00 |
| tdurakov | thanks! | 11:01 |
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| tdurakov | wznoinsk, could you please start a thread anyway, so we could ask qa folks about moving that to tempest | 11:01 |
| sfinucan | wznoinsk: Finding out if it's even an option (via the mailing list) would be a better move first, I'd say | 11:02 |
| wznoinsk | sfinucan, having it as plugin is giving a good starting point, I think they may need a bit of tweaking so they're written the best possible way before they will be accepted into upstream tempest | 11:02 |
| wznoinsk | roger that, will start ML thread today | 11:02 |
| sfinucan | tdurakov wznoinsk: Out of curiosity, what's the rationale for putting them into upstream Tempest vs a plugin? | 11:02 |
| tdurakov | sfinucan: will be reused by other folks, improve coverage | 11:03 |
| sfinucan | tdurakov: and that can't be done via the current Tempest plugin structure? | 11:03 |
| tdurakov | sfinucan: only procs from my point of view | 11:03 |
| tdurakov | sfinucan: I'm not familiar with current tempest plugins structure | 11:04 |
| sfinucan | Could I suggest an alternative | 11:04 |
| sfinucan | We document a list of available Tempest plugins in Tempest, but keep them separate | 11:04 |
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| tdurakov | need to drop now, could we continue in an hour? | 11:04 |
| sfinucan | Sure | 11:04 |
| wznoinsk | tdurakov, in short, you install a tmpest plugin via pip install git+http://githublinkhere and run tempest with -eall-plugin | 11:04 |
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| sfinucan | wznoinsk, tdurakov: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tempest/plugin-registry.html | 11:07 |
| sfinucan | already beaten to the punch, it seems | 11:07 |
| manasm | @bauzas review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392620/ has been updated, please take a look. | 11:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: live-mig: Add claims and proper resource tracking https://review.openstack.org/244489 | 11:15 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova-specs: Libvirt driver emulator threads placement policy https://review.openstack.org/284094 | 11:24 |
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| tdurakov | sfinucan, wznoinsk I'm back, so plugin looks good either, it's ok for me to do it that way | 11:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Provide an object facade for a subset of RPs https://review.openstack.org/386242 | 11:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Expose a REST API method for a specific list of RPs https://review.openstack.org/392569 | 11:58 |
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| wznoinsk | tdurakov, sfinucan get these tests working as plugin so running intel-nfv-ci-tests is now as simple as these two commands I listed above, obviously other nova/other projects CIs would not be doing this - it would extend these epa features test coverage if these tests would be just there in tempest | 12:00 |
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| sahid | johnthetubaguy: hello, i tried to address all of view questions, not sure if some of them needed actions or not, when you have a moment feel free to let me know if you need me to update the spec | 12:05 |
| sahid | s/view/your | 12:05 |
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| tdurakov | wznoinsk: if we try to merge tests in tempest master instead, it will introduce new flags in tempest.conf, smth like `enable_nfv_testing`, which is almost the same as having a plugin for that(you need to enable/disable that per job basis) | 12:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: conf: Covert StrOpt -> PortOpt https://review.openstack.org/394392 | 12:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: conf: Deprecate 'remap_vbd_dev' option https://review.openstack.org/394393 | 12:09 |
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| wznoinsk | tdurakov, good point, and that won't be set to 'true' by default as the features are mostly relevant to real time workloads - is my understanding on the right track? | 12:17 |
| tdurakov | wznoinsk: yeah, disabled by default | 12:20 |
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| wznoinsk | tdurakov, would it be better to have it enabled but rely on the hsot capabilities (discovery) to run theses tests or not, similar to "SKIPPED: Less than 2 compute nodes, skipping multinode tests." | 12:29 |
| tdurakov | wznoinsk: it will be difficult, especially if you have a large cloud | 12:30 |
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| wznoinsk | hm, yes, unless you have these resource tracked | 12:31 |
| wznoinsk | also, it would be tempest specific default 'enable_nfv_testing=true' configuration for the gate testing so no huge cloud tests there | 12:33 |
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| wznoinsk | I mean, CI testing (1st or 3rd party) is _usually_ not on clouds with many compute node setups | 12:33 |
| wznoinsk | tdurakov, ^ | 12:34 |
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| tdurakov | wznoinsk: right, but tempest and it's plugins are not for ci only:) | 12:34 |
| tdurakov | imo | 12:34 |
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| sahid | jaypipes: do you have a moment to review that serie https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389687/ | 12:56 |
| sahid | the work has been started long time ago | 12:56 |
| sahid | it's basically to claim resources according the numa instance topoloy | 12:56 |
| sahid | then to update the domain XML of the live migrated instance | 12:57 |
| sahid | it's something necessary, really and we already have missed 2 releases :/ | 12:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | edan david proposed openstack/nova: Use available port binding constants https://review.openstack.org/387830 | 13:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/nova-specs: WIP Add hierarchy quota driver specification https://review.openstack.org/394422 | 13:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/nova-specs: WIP Add hierarchy quota driver specification https://review.openstack.org/394422 | 13:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Arne Recknagel proposed openstack/nova: Increase driver dict generation robustness https://review.openstack.org/394425 | 13:22 |
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| jaypipes | sahid: I will in about 30 minutes after meetings :) | 13:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | edan david proposed openstack/nova: User-controlled SR-IOV ports allocation https://review.openstack.org/374151 | 13:30 |
| sahid | jaypipes: thanks a lot jay | 13:32 |
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| gibi_ | nova experts, is it a safe assumption that if a nova ovo has a remotable method then the body of that method will always run in the nova-conductor service?\ | 13:40 |
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| gibi_ | or it is depends on the fact that the ovo is stored in the normal db or in the api_db? | 13:43 |
| bauzas | gibi_: you mean the decorator ? | 13:46 |
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| bauzas | gibi_: if so, that depends on a conf | 13:46 |
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| bauzas | gibi_: I meant https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/cmd/compute.py#L53 | 13:47 |
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| gibi_ | bauzas: yes. for example the nova.objects.aggregate.Aggregate#create has @base.remotable decorator | 13:48 |
| gibi_ | bauzas: and the question is where the code of the create runs | 13:48 |
| bauzas | gibi_: where https://github.com/openstack/oslo.versionedobjects/blob/master/oslo_versionedobjects/base.py#L243 and https://github.com/openstack/oslo.versionedobjects/blob/master/oslo_versionedobjects/base.py#L172 | 13:48 |
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| bauzas | gibi_: to answer your question, yes, all the body will be run by the conductor in case the indirection API is set to it | 13:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | edan david proposed openstack/nova: Use utils ANY constant https://review.openstack.org/387908 | 13:49 |
| bauzas | gibi_: ie. only by the computes | 13:49 |
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| edleafe | Scheduler subteam meeting in 10 minutes in #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:50 |
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| bauzas | gibi_: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conductor/manager.py#L96 | 13:51 |
| openstackgerrit | edan david proposed openstack/nova: Use utils ANY constant https://review.openstack.org/387908 | 13:51 |
| gibi_ | bauzas: so if the nova-api service calls the Aggregate#create then the code will run in the nova-api service? | 13:52 |
| bauzas | gibi_: yup | 13:52 |
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| bauzas | gibi_: https://github.com/openstack/oslo.versionedobjects/blob/master/oslo_versionedobjects/base.py#L1010-L1014 | 13:52 |
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| gibi_ | bauzas: thanks a lot! I see now. | 13:54 |
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| bauzas | gibi_: tbc, the RPC call is made there https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conductor/rpcapi.py#L230-L237 and the server-side is https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conductor/manager.py#L91 | 13:56 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: due to daylight shift, I'll have to bail out early by every meeting :( | 13:57 |
| bauzas | edleafe: around 1425UTC | 13:57 |
| bauzas | edleafe: I need to pick my daughter at school :/ | 13:57 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: ok. I almost missed the meeting because I had to drop my daughter off at school | 13:58 |
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| bauzas | :) | 13:58 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: of course, she drives, but she doesn't have her own car :) | 13:58 |
| bauzas | edleafe: well, mine is 6 so hopefully I'd have to wait a couple of more years than you :p | 13:59 |
| edleafe | Yup | 13:59 |
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| bauzas | my kids can be growing fast, but I'd be scared if they'd drive by 6 :p | 13:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/nova-specs: WIP Add hierarchy quota driver specification https://review.openstack.org/394422 | 14:15 |
| sambetts | Hi nova team, I have a question about your OSC plugin, is anyone involved with that around? | 14:16 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: hi | 14:17 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: hey | 14:18 |
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| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: I wanted to ask whether you're around for the today's Cinder-Nova meeting? | 14:18 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: I should be OK, 17:00 UTC right? | 14:19 |
| sambetts | Is there an OSC equivolent for nova interface-attach/detach ?/ | 14:19 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so an hour earlier than last time, for most folks | 14:19 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: I need to double check it with the other John too and I would like to try to turn it into a recorded Hangouts call | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: that should help the discussion | 14:20 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: yeap, same UTC slot, which means an hour earlier due to lovely daylight saving changes | 14:20 |
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| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: I think by now the US folks switched too | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: yep, I think its change time for both of us now | 14:21 |
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| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: cool, I always loose track on this... | 14:30 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: I defaulted outlook to book my meetings in UTC, to make me choose! | 14:31 |
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| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: haha, nice one! | 14:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: conf: Move api options to a group https://review.openstack.org/384490 | 14:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova: Transform instance.create notification https://review.openstack.org/384621 | 14:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: conf: Move api options to a group https://review.openstack.org/384490 | 14:56 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: so, what should we do about this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393441 | 15:00 |
| mriedem | b/c of cells v1? | 15:00 |
| mriedem | or b/c there are no QA cores? | 15:00 |
| mriedem | you just actually made me think that ^ probably shouldn't be completely unconditional | 15:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Call host connection callbacks asynchronously https://review.openstack.org/393869 | 15:01 |
| mriedem | i.e. we probably don't enable cells v2 if devstack is configured to setup cells v1 | 15:01 |
| mriedem | i'm not sure what kind of wonkiness happens there | 15:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Modify fields of 'Diagnostics' object https://review.openstack.org/394480 | 15:01 |
| mriedem | dansmith: i'm going to run the cells v1 job on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392289/ quick | 15:02 |
| mriedem | should be ok, but not really sure | 15:02 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I meant in terms of waiting until sdague is back to opine or going forward | 15:02 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: we don't grenade on cellsv1 do we? | 15:02 |
| mriedem | no | 15:02 |
| dansmith | oh you meant for the devstack change? | 15:03 |
| mriedem | right | 15:03 |
| mriedem | cellsv1 is in the experimental queue for devstack so i need to run that job first | 15:03 |
| mriedem | i think it should be ok, it'll just setup cell0 and the mappings which won't be used | 15:03 |
| dansmith | okay, but we'll have to set it up for cellsv1 too else I can't merge that blocker migration | 15:03 |
| mriedem | right | 15:03 |
| mriedem | did you see my comments on the db migration change? | 15:03 |
| jaypipes | cdent, bauzas: doh, sorry, I was hit by daylight savings :( Didn't realize sched meeting was at 9am not 10am EST. | 15:04 |
| dansmith | no, but you said: <mriedem>i.e. we probably don't enable cells v2 if devstack is configured to setup cells v1 | 15:04 |
| dansmith | mriedem: but I see you meant we probably don't, but should.. got it | 15:04 |
| mriedem | double speak | 15:04 |
| cdent | jaypipes: was okay, pretty laid back today, most getting people on same page | 15:04 |
| mriedem | i was really saying, we maybe shouldn't enable cells v2 if configured for cells v1, but that won't work | 15:04 |
| mriedem | as you noted | 15:04 |
| mriedem | i also don't think it will hurt aything, but if it does it's a bug probably and we just have to handle it | 15:05 |
| mriedem | b/c for some amount of time cells v1 people are going to be running both | 15:05 |
| mriedem | and migrating | 15:05 |
| mriedem | at least i think | 15:05 |
| dansmith | right | 15:05 |
| mriedem | why do i think about jesse ventura when i think about an http response body | 15:07 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: no worries, I had the same issue with last week's nova meeting :) | 15:07 |
| bauzas | I should propose to have all our meetings by the CET timezone :p | 15:08 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: any chance you or mriedem can +W this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386843/ You've both +2'd it. | 15:11 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: like I said in a comment and during the meeting, I had a question for you before +Wing | 15:12 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: not sure you saw it | 15:12 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: but like I said, it's something we can discuss later, just wanted to make sure you knew it before I was +Wing it | 15:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova: Enabling detach root volume for shelved_offloaded https://review.openstack.org/326899 | 15:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova: Attach/detach root volume for shelved_offloaded https://review.openstack.org/317446 | 15:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova: Adding device_present field to bdm table https://review.openstack.org/268053 | 15:13 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: ie. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386843/11/nova/objects/resource_provider.py@1048 | 15:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Require cellsv2 setup before migrating to Ocata https://review.openstack.org/392227 | 15:15 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: i'm writing a functional api samples test for addFloatingIp, it's getting pretty hairy though | 15:15 |
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| mriedem | more like a tempest test at this point | 15:15 |
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| mriedem | btw, when we drop nova-network, our functional tests are going to be a mess to cleanup | 15:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Roman Podoliaka proposed openstack/nova: tests: stub out libvirt in a fixture https://review.openstack.org/394487 | 15:16 |
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| dansmith | yup | 15:19 |
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| mriedem | we do have the network service stub....but untangling that mess is going to be not fun | 15:20 |
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| dansmith | so last week, I learned that I have no idea how security groups work at boot if we're using neutron | 15:22 |
| dansmith | they seem to disappear on one side of a tunnel and re-appear later | 15:23 |
| dansmith | so, that's cool | 15:23 |
| mriedem | we don't store them in the nova db right? | 15:23 |
| mriedem | the security groups are tied to the ports on the instance | 15:24 |
| mriedem | and each port has a default security group in neutron if port security is enabled | 15:24 |
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| mriedem | meeting, gotta run | 15:24 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yeah, but we don't alloc until we get to the compute node, so where we keep them between api and there is what I'm missing | 15:25 |
| dansmith | alaski: did you say you were around this week? | 15:25 |
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| mriedem1 | dansmith: request sepc? | 15:28 |
| mriedem1 | *spec | 15:28 |
| dansmith | mriedem1: we don't use that anywhere in the compute/neutronapi bits that I see though | 15:28 |
| mriedem1 | i thought the list of requested security groups just got passed from api to conductor, and from conductor to compute | 15:28 |
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| dansmith | yeah, maybe it's just in an rpc arg | 15:29 |
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| dansmith | ah, I think I see.. we provision_security_groups() in the api, which overwrites our list, and set that on the instance. in neutron, that's an empty list | 15:32 |
| dansmith | but our caller still has the list of names, and passes that along as an rpc arg | 15:32 |
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| dansmith | because we eclipse our argument in that inner _provision_instances() call | 15:33 |
| dansmith | that means we're not storing the real list of requested secgroups in the ReqSpec either | 15:33 |
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| mriedem | we also lie in the response | 15:34 |
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| mriedem | which i had a spec to change, but dropped it in favor of john's spec to redo how we handle security groups in the server create request | 15:34 |
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| mriedem | which we aren't going to do in ocata | 15:34 |
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| mriedem | but if we need to store the security groups from the request in the request spec for cells v2 that's something we should be able to add | 15:35 |
| dansmith | well, that will be hard to support for older computes | 15:35 |
| dansmith | although it seems like the point of the ReqSpec is to be able to recreate the original request | 15:35 |
| dansmith | and I don't think we can do that for neutron | 15:36 |
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| cfriesen | any chance of a core taking a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346263/ ? dpb and mdbooth have both approved. | 15:36 |
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| mriedem | cfriesen: so at the summit we talked a little bit about testing migration/resize with flavors that have ephemeral/swap devices, | 15:37 |
| mriedem | did you catch any of that discussion? | 15:37 |
| mriedem | diana_clarke had worked on a test that did something like that, but the test itself was creating the flavor, which the tempest folks didn't want, | 15:38 |
| cfriesen | mriedem: no, think I missed that. | 15:38 |
| mriedem | so at the summit we talked about changing the flavors that devstack sets in tempest.conf for use in the tests | 15:38 |
| mriedem | so those flavors would have ephemeral/swap | 15:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: WIP encryptors: Introduce EncryptionProvider constants https://review.openstack.org/393901 | 15:38 |
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| cfriesen | mriedem: right, that makes sense. | 15:39 |
| mriedem | and then a test could check the flavor if it has ephemeral/swap and skip if it doesn't - assuming we had a specific test for that | 15:39 |
| knasim-wrs | good day folks, my CI has been open for a while (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300616/) and I had to rebase it a few times just to get all the voting CIs to come clean. Would any of the cores be able to look at this please? | 15:39 |
| mriedem | i'm not sure if we need a specific test for it though, unless the test ssh's into the guest and verifies the disk was resized | 15:39 |
| dansmith | mriedem: this is where we lose secgroups on the cellsv2 stack: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367557/15/nova/conductor/api.py@133 | 15:40 |
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| diana_clarke | cfriesen: FYI - here's that tempest test mriedem mentioned: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/338411/ | 15:40 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: ok, so bauzas is asking that we just pass the request spec right? | 15:40 |
| dansmith | mriedem: we are passing the reqspec, but it's not in there either | 15:41 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: I think what bauzas is asking for is to pass an array of reqspecs, one per instance | 15:41 |
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| cfriesen | mriedem: okay, so are we looking to improve the testing before merging changes in this area? | 15:41 |
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| mriedem | cfriesen: well, i'm just personally not comfortable merging it right now w/o that, | 15:42 |
| mriedem | i'd have to recreate the bug and pull the fix down to test it out myself | 15:42 |
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| mriedem | cfriesen: because i asked a bunch of questions at one point in there and then there was much discussion and now there is another ask to look at it, and i haven't seen all of the discussion in between, | 15:43 |
| mriedem | but before i asked all of those questions people were saying, 'hey this is ready to go, please look' | 15:43 |
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| mriedem | makes me a bit trigger shy | 15:43 |
| cfriesen | mriedem: true enough. the bugfix itself is easy. making sure it doesn't break other stuff.... | 15:44 |
| mriedem | dansmith: ok - and if we store the security groups in the request spec we should be good there right? | 15:44 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yeah | 15:44 |
| mriedem | cool | 15:44 |
| dansmith | mriedem: you already have a patch or should I just do one up? should be not much trouble | 15:44 |
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| cfriesen | mriedem: on the other hand, it's painful to have to maintain out-of-tree patches for issues that we know about, because a separate testing project isn't up to par. | 15:45 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: i don't | 15:45 |
| dansmith | okay I'll cook it up | 15:46 |
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| mriedem | cfriesen: well i don't expect the tempest / QA people to know we have this gap | 15:46 |
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| mriedem | it's on us as a nova team to fill that gap | 15:46 |
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| paw | Can a core look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388970/? | 15:46 |
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| mriedem | pkoniszewski: where are you on ^ ? | 15:48 |
| mriedem | pkoniszewski: do you need to see the bug fixed first? | 15:48 |
| cfriesen | mriedem: mtreinish was recommending a functional test for the resize case (in the discussion around that tempest test). Would that be sufficient or do we really want a tempest test? | 15:49 |
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| mriedem | cfriesen: we don't have a functional job that runs with an actual live libvirt | 15:49 |
| mriedem | it's a thing we've talked about wanting, but needs people to work on it | 15:50 |
| mriedem | something like a nova-dsvm-integration job | 15:50 |
| cfriesen | mriedem: do we need actual live libvirt for resize though? that just tests ssh and scp | 15:50 |
| cfriesen | mriedem: at least for the disk resizing case | 15:50 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: if you can write a functional test that doesn't require live libvirt, then maybe we can use that | 15:50 |
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| mriedem | there is a nova/tests/functional/libvirt set of testes | 15:51 |
| mriedem | *tests | 15:51 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: mriedem: sorry, was afk for family business | 15:52 |
| bauzas | dansmith: mriedem: so I tend to think we should call the RPC by each instance, not passing a list | 15:53 |
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| cfriesen | mriedem: okay, thanks | 15:53 |
| cfriesen | diana_clarke: did you ever propose the new flavors in devstack? | 15:53 |
| bauzas | dansmith: mriedem: because I agree with alaski, we should maybe later discussing about deprecating the possibility to call the API for more than 1 instance | 15:53 |
| dansmith | bauzas: why does that make sense? | 15:53 |
| cfriesen | diana_clarke: or the modified flavors | 15:54 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: because I would appreciate to have the behaviour exactly like the current conductor, | 15:54 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: ie. being cast'd for each instance | 15:54 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: and only the API being able to have a multiple instance method | 15:55 |
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| dansmith | bauzas: we make one call to conductor today though, right? | 15:56 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: i'll start a dev list thread to try and dump status on that so we can hopefully all get on the same page and maybe move forward | 15:56 |
| mriedem | i'm a bit split brain atm | 15:56 |
| bauzas | dansmith: nope | 15:56 |
| dansmith | bauzas: build_instances() | 15:56 |
| bauzas | dansmith: we make one cast per instance | 15:56 |
| cfriesen | mriedem: sounds good | 15:56 |
| dansmith | bauzas: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/api.py#L1167 | 15:56 |
| dansmith | bauzas: takes a list of instances | 15:57 |
| diana_clarke | cfriesen: no, I didn't because I didn't think they would get accepted | 15:57 |
| bauzas | oh sec, you're right? | 15:57 |
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| bauzas | wtf ? | 15:57 |
| cfriesen | mriedem: would this one fall under the same sort of case (needing better test coverage first)? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300616/ | 15:58 |
| bauzas | I remember us casting each instance | 15:58 |
| dansmith | bauzas: we cast one per instance to compute of course | 15:58 |
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| dansmith | bauzas: making one per instance to the conductor will end up with a bunch of scheduling calls too, instead of one scheduling call with N instances, which is how the code is (and was) designed | 15:59 |
| bauzas | dansmith: mmmm, sec, verifying something | 16:00 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: nevermind then my opinion | 16:01 |
| dansmith | okay | 16:01 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: that said, we still need to pass a list of Spec objects IHMO | 16:02 |
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| * bauzas reviewing fast the series | 16:02 | |
| dansmith | okay, got a meeting now, but we can discuss after | 16:02 |
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| mriedem | cfriesen: for me probably yes, or a manual recreate and verify of the fix | 16:04 |
| mriedem | i can't in good conscience +2 something like that by just eyeballing it | 16:04 |
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| cfriesen | mriedem: about what I expected given the other one. :) | 16:05 |
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| cfriesen | diana_clarke: for qcow images at least it shouldn't actually take up any more space to have swap/ephemeral, right? as long as nobody actually writes to them they'll be minimal size. | 16:18 |
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| diana_clarke | cfriesen: I'm not 100% sure, but mdbooth understands this stuff way better than me. | 16:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add PCIWeigher https://review.openstack.org/379524 | 16:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: hardware: Flatten functions https://review.openstack.org/379624 | 16:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Prefer non-PCI host nodes for non-PCI instances https://review.openstack.org/379625 | 16:20 |
| danpb | cfriesen: hmm, nova by defaults pre-allocates files, even qcow2 files | 16:20 |
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| thorst_ | mriedem mikal: Updated the powervm blueprint per your comments. When able, can you take another look? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381772/ | 16:21 |
| cfriesen | danpb: preallocate_images defaults to "none" | 16:22 |
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| mriedem | thorst_: yeah been meaning to get back to that | 16:22 |
| kashyap | cfriesen: Indeed, I was just looking at code | 16:22 |
| thorst_ | mriedem: thx. | 16:22 |
| danpb | cfriesen: oh, really, that's probably a mistake in general :-) | 16:22 |
| danpb | poor_performance=True out of the box :-( | 16:22 |
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| cfriesen | danpb: and I'm not sure it applies to anything that isn't an image (like swap/ephemeral) | 16:22 |
| kashyap | 'preallocate_images', | 16:23 |
| kashyap | default='none', | 16:23 |
| kashyap | choices=('none', 'space'), | 16:23 |
| mdbooth | danpb: It's not *that* poor any more, right? | 16:23 |
| mdbooth | It used to be shocking (like 100x hit), but last time I tested it it wasn't completely awful. | 16:23 |
| danpb | mdbooth: you get a I/O barrier any time a write causes a new sector to be allocated in qcow2 | 16:23 |
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| danpb | its not completely awful, but its certainly notably slower | 16:23 |
| mdbooth | danpb: We hit this in v2v and had a workaround for it, but a year or so later we took it out because it was no longer as important. | 16:24 |
| cfriesen | danpb: when enabling pre-allocation, does it also zero out the allocated space? | 16:24 |
| kashyap | cfriesen: Unless I'm wrong, it only allocates qcow2 metadata | 16:25 |
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| kashyap | Maybe not, it also does "fallocate". /me checks... | 16:25 |
| danpb | cfriesen: yes, its all zeros | 16:25 |
| kashyap | Yep | 16:26 |
| danpb | mdbooth: alos if you don't preallocate, then you have to use aio=threads, instead of aio=native, which is a worse performing I/o model for qemu | 16:27 |
| mdbooth | cfriesen: What's the context of this discussion, btw? | 16:27 |
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| mdbooth | Are we discussing ephemerals? | 16:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Arne Recknagel proposed openstack/nova: Increase driver dict generation robustness https://review.openstack.org/394425 | 16:28 |
| kashyap | mdbooth: Yeah: "cfriesen> for qcow images at least it shouldn't actually take up any more space to have swap/ephemeral, right?" | 16:28 |
| cfriesen | mdbooth: there are a couple of patches related to ephemeral/swap over resize/migration, and mriedem is understandably reluctant to merge them without test coverage | 16:28 |
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| mdbooth | cfriesen: Links? | 16:28 |
| mdbooth | Have I reviewed them already, btw? | 16:29 |
| cfriesen | mdbooth: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300616/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346263/ (you've reviewed the latter) | 16:29 |
| cfriesen | mdbooth: mriedem just posted to the dev list about improving the testing...I was just wondering how much of an impact it would really have to add ephemeral/swap to the default devstack flavors | 16:30 |
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| mdbooth | Ah... gotcha | 16:30 |
| mdbooth | So, is thick vs thin alloc something operators might want to differentiate per instance, btw? | 16:31 |
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| mdbooth | For eg, pricing. | 16:31 |
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| cfriesen | mdbooth: are you talking qcow or LVM? | 16:32 |
| mdbooth | In general | 16:32 |
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| mdbooth | Although I don't think we do thin lvm yet, do we? Certainly not lvm snapshots. | 16:33 |
| cfriesen | mdbooth: we did thin in house because the performance hit for zeroing out thick was so huge, especially with multiple simultaneous instance deletions on compute nodes with crappy IO subsystems. | 16:34 |
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| mdbooth | cfriesen: Cool. Do you still have patches? | 16:35 |
| cfriesen | mdbooth: I mentioned it at the time but nobody was really interested. I could see about posting them. | 16:35 |
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| cfriesen | mdbooth: basically you take the zeroing-out hit on first write rather than all at once. | 16:36 |
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| kashyap | cfriesen: On Preallocation, I wonder if you tested with all three options: | 16:40 |
| kashyap | "Preallocation mode (allowed values: "off", "falloc", "full"). "falloc" mode preallocates space for image by calling posix_fallocate(). "full" mode preallocates space for image by writing zeros to underlying storage." | 16:40 |
| kashyap | Currently, Nova does "falloc", if you see the commit that introduced it 24f6c62ad776dc0fc85ce29eb34e7e0a1f270d07 | 16:41 |
| cfriesen | kashyap: yeah, I wonder if fallocate is a security risk? | 16:41 |
| kashyap | cfriesen: Why would it be? | 16:41 |
| cfriesen | kashyap: we haven't done any of the preallocation stuff with qcow2. If it allocates space but doesn't cause that space to get zeroed at some point, you could end up reading someone else's data. | 16:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: fix addFloatingIp action docs https://review.openstack.org/393951 | 16:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Add functional api_samples test for addFloatingIp action https://review.openstack.org/394524 | 16:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: virtlogd: use virtlogd for char devices https://review.openstack.org/323765 | 16:44 |
| cfriesen | kashyap: where are you seeing those preallocation modes? | 16:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: remove py26 compat code in "get_console_output" https://review.openstack.org/334480 | 16:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: read rotated "console.log" files https://review.openstack.org/385366 | 16:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: refactor console device creation methods https://review.openstack.org/385367 | 16:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: change get_console_output as prep work for bp/libvirt-virtlogd https://review.openstack.org/394525 | 16:44 |
| kashyap | cfriesen: I think you're referring to https://lwn.net/Articles/492959/ | 16:44 |
| kashyap | cfriesen: I was looking at qemu-img man page. Nova currently does fallocate (if you see the imagebackend.py) | 16:44 |
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| mdbooth | kashyap: It currently does it in cache(), which is the wrong place :( | 16:45 |
| cfriesen | kashyap: okay, good. fallocate() is safe from the kernel. | 16:45 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: all of your api sample functional test dreams have come true https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394524/1 | 16:46 |
| kashyap | mdbooth: Indeed it's in cache() method, I didn't dig why it's wrong place, but I know you're meditating on imagebackend | 16:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Transform aggregate.create notification https://review.openstack.org/394511 | 16:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Transform aggregate.delete notification https://review.openstack.org/394512 | 16:47 |
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| mdbooth | kashyap: Because not everything is a file, and fallocate on a qcow2 is not correct. | 16:48 |
| mdbooth | It won't corrupt it, but it won't be the right size, either. | 16:48 |
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| kashyap | mdbooth: Why is it not correct? I'm curious. Many moons ago I learnt that from a QEMU dev - https://kashyapc.com/2011/12/02/little-more-disk-io-perf-improvement-with-fallocateing-a-qcow2-disk/ | 16:49 |
| mdbooth | kashyap: It doesn't take into account the metadata overhead, for eg. | 16:49 |
| mdbooth | It won't be the right size. | 16:49 |
| kashyap | (Not that I'm saying it is correct. And, since then, that 'falloc' option is now baked into 'qemu-img' as an option) | 16:49 |
| kashyap | mdbooth: Ah, right...The qcow2 metadata | 16:49 |
| mdbooth | Yeah | 16:50 |
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| kashyap | mdbooth: But I still have a question | 16:51 |
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| * kashyap brings a URL | 16:51 | |
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| kashyap | mdbooth: Then, why would QEMU upstream merge this https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2014-07/msg00363.html | 16:52 |
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| mdbooth | kashyap: Presumably that knows how large to make the file. | 16:53 |
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| mdbooth | As I say, it won't corrupt the data, it just won't be correct. | 16:53 |
| mdbooth | What error do you get when you write to a file and allocation fails? | 16:53 |
| mdbooth | Ah.. it is ENOSPC, I thought it might have been something else. | 16:54 |
| kashyap | By your first comment, that patch is allowing posix_fallocate(3) for a qcow2 file | 16:54 |
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| mdbooth | Anyway, you aren't 100% protecting yourself against that | 16:54 |
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| dirk | dear nova cores, please take one minute to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389042/ - this is a very trivial changeset, it already had one +2, please review and merge. it blocks oslotest update and is an obstacle for the g-r team. thanks a lot! | 16:55 |
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| kashyap | And yes, when allocation fails -ENOSPC. | 16:58 |
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| * mdbooth was getting confused with memory overcommit, where you get a BUS error iirc | 16:59 | |
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| kashyap | mdbooth: posix_fallocate(3) is equivalent to metadata preallocation on the FS-level. But you of course know this | 17:00 |
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| mdbooth | kashyap: Presumably only if you know the total size? | 17:01 |
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| kashyap | mdbooth: Hmm, I honestly don't know. I'll stop hand-waving here. I recall a large discussion on qemu-devel list when that patch was proposed | 17:02 |
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| kashyap | mdbooth: Oh, I do know - yes, you should know the total size | 17:03 |
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| * kashyap will blame the chilly wind here | 17:03 | |
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| mdbooth | $ ls -l test-falloc.qcow2 test.raw | 17:05 |
| mdbooth | -rw-r--r--. 1 mbooth mbooth 1074135040 Nov 7 17:04 test-falloc.qcow2 | 17:05 |
| mdbooth | -rw-rw-r--. 1 mbooth mbooth 1073741824 Nov 7 17:05 test.raw | 17:05 |
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| mdbooth | kashyap: Notice how the qcow2 file is 393216 bytes bigger | 17:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: WIP encryptors: Introduce EncryptionProvider constants https://review.openstack.org/393901 | 17:06 |
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| mdbooth | That's been pre-allocated with qemu-img -o preallocation=falloc | 17:06 |
| mdbooth | That means that if you just falloc the qcow2 to 1G, it's still 393216 too small | 17:07 |
| kashyap | Hmm. mdbooth - And, with preallocation=full? | 17:07 |
| mdbooth | Which means that, although it's unlikely, you can still get ENOSPC when writing to it | 17:07 |
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| mdbooth | kashyap: They're both the same size. | 17:08 |
| mdbooth | But full is obviously much slower to create | 17:08 |
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| kashyap | Yeah | 17:09 |
| kashyap | (As it's more performant.) But we don't expect users of Nova to know these kind of details, do we..."Just give me a performant image", and Nova should do the Right Thing I suppose | 17:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Modify fields of 'Diagnostics' object https://review.openstack.org/394480 | 17:10 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: thx for +W'ing that one patch. sorry, went out to grab some lunch and didn't see your notice until just now. | 17:15 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: np, didn't want to block | 17:16 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: if you're looking for a relatively easy patch to review, cdent's microversion decorator patch is looking good: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388115/ | 17:16 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: roger. | 17:16 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: 10-4 good buddy. | 17:16 |
| * jaypipes can see dansmith rolling his eyes from here... | 17:17 | |
| bauzas | jaypipes: FWIW, I nacked the patch you mentioned me about the AZ cache performance improvement, because I honestly think it would be better to cut the AZ cache and fix the root cause rather than just do the hack | 17:17 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: yeah, I saw your review comment on that. I'm a bit torn on it, frankly, but I think this is an easy performance win and doesn't make things any more broken than they currently are. | 17:17 |
| bauzas | that AZ cache is causing too much trouble, and us trying to workaround it is just piling a new stack of code against something hugely already wrong | 17:18 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: so, here are my thoughts | 17:18 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: I don't necessarily disagree with you on that point :) | 17:18 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: if we have the promise that this code is about to be killed later in that cycle because we're gonna kill that silly cache and do the Real Work (c), then I'm +2 | 17:19 |
| bauzas | but I don't want to keep that rustine for a long time | 17:19 |
| bauzas | oops | 17:19 |
| * bauzas google translates "rustine" | 17:19 | |
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| bauzas | rubber patch | 17:19 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: heh, missed your point https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CB_slang | 17:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: WIP encryptors: Introduce EncryptionProvider constants https://review.openstack.org/393901 | 17:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: WIP encryptors: Introduce EncryptionProvider constants https://review.openstack.org/393901 | 17:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Roman Podoliaka proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Integrate OSprofiler and Nova https://review.openstack.org/254703 | 17:29 |
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| cfriesen | danpb: qemu question for you...if I do pci-passthrough and in the guest I try to reassign the interrupt affinity: 1) will it work?, and 2) will it affect the interrupt affinity on the host? | 17:36 |
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| danpb | cfriesen: interupt affinity is nothing todo with qemu - its purely a guest os concept | 17:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova: Readibility enhancements in notification_sample_tests/ https://review.openstack.org/385884 | 17:44 |
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| aunnam | johnthetubaguy, Can you review this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393931/ when you have time. | 17:47 |
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| cfriesen | danpb: so if I want to ensure that all work for a pci-passthrough device stays on the guest CPUs (assuming dedicated CPUs) I'd have to separately set irq affinity in the host and in the guest? | 17:50 |
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| danpb | cfriesen: yes | 17:51 |
| cfriesen | thanks | 17:51 |
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| danpb | cfriesen: there's actually a gap in nova right now | 17:52 |
| danpb | cfriesen: because we don't tell QEMU what *guest* NUMA node its assigned PCI device is associated with | 17:52 |
| danpb | cfriesen: so if the guest has > 1 numa node, there's no way to know which guest CPUs to use for the PCI device to ensure optimal performance | 17:52 |
| danpb | cfriesen: we're just about at the point where we can fix that now with libvirt+QEMU by adding extra PCI buses for each guest NUMA node | 17:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julian proposed openstack/nova: Transform instance.snapshot notifications https://review.openstack.org/330128 | 17:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: placement: adds REST API for nested providers https://review.openstack.org/384807 | 18:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: placement: add get_all_by_root_provider_uuid() https://review.openstack.org/377215 | 18:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: placement: update client to set parent provider https://review.openstack.org/385693 | 18:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: placement: add nested resource providers https://review.openstack.org/377138 | 18:06 |
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| cfriesen | jaypipes: could you look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339715 ? we talked about it at the summit, your earlier comments have been addressed. | 18:30 |
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| jaypipes | cfriesen: done. | 18:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/394584 | 18:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Fix race in test_volume_swap_server_with_error https://review.openstack.org/394585 | 18:58 |
| mriedem | ^ fixes a race in our functional tests | 18:59 |
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| ildikov | mriedem: can you take a look at this at some point: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335358/ ? | 19:00 |
| mriedem | yeah. cburgess potentially had an issue with that, but he might have talked himself out of it. | 19:00 |
| cburgess | mriedem What did I do? | 19:00 |
| cburgess | Oh well... | 19:00 |
| ildikov | mriedem: I updated a few things in it and I added some follow up questions to your earlier comments | 19:00 |
| cburgess | Its not that I have issue one way or the other per se. | 19:00 |
| ildikov | mriedem: I hope it's getting there to become something sane now... | 19:01 |
| cburgess | mriedem My point was *if* we intend to remove it then we need to implement a different "fix" to the lack of volume type support. | 19:01 |
| cburgess | mriedem A more complicated fix I should add but if its the direction we want to go then fine. | 19:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: placement: REST API for resource classes https://review.openstack.org/391959 | 19:10 |
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| mriedem | cburgess: i can't even keep it straight in my head anymore on what you needed - i thought you wanted the wait for available thing in the compute manager, that waits for the volume that nova creates during BFV, to be less restrictive | 19:14 |
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| mriedem | or was your case a BFV with an existing volume, that was not yet 'available' | 19:15 |
| mriedem | i thought i was maybe the latter b/c then you can create the volume with the type you want | 19:15 |
| mriedem | but don't want to have to wait for it to be available | 19:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | prashkre proposed openstack/nova: Separate CRUD policy for server_groups https://review.openstack.org/391113 | 19:21 |
| mriedem | thorst_: efried: word to the wise, you're going to want to use test ids here rather than test names https://github.com/powervm/powervm-ci/blob/master/tempest/skip_tests.txt | 19:21 |
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| mriedem | b/c the test names/paths can change, the idempotent id won't | 19:21 |
| cburgess | mriedem Well what I *want* is to pass volume-type on the BFV call. But that was shot down. So the alternate solution was create a volume first then issue a BFV call on that existing volume. But right now the code will error if the volume isn't | 19:21 |
| cburgess | Isn't available | 19:21 |
| efried | esberglu ^-3^ | 19:22 |
| mriedem | cburgess: right so you were going to update the check_attach method right? | 19:22 |
| cburgess | So the proposal was to change check-attach to allow downloading as a valid status and pass it onto the compute node which will use its eixsting wait to become available code. | 19:22 |
| cburgess | mriedem Correct that was the original idea. | 19:22 |
| mriedem | ok | 19:22 |
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| cburgess | mriedem But if check_attach goes away... then we have to update the reserve call on cinder to be smarter since that does all the heavy lifting now in the check_attach-less world. | 19:22 |
| cburgess | mriedem So its not that I object to removing check_attach per se other then it makes our job harder since we now have to land something in cinder, then in nova. | 19:23 |
| cburgess | Vs it being purely a nova problem. | 19:23 |
| mriedem | right, because os-reserve expects a volume in status 'available' | 19:23 |
| mriedem | if it's not a multiattach volume | 19:23 |
| cburgess | Right | 19:23 |
| cburgess | The real issue is that the reserve call on the cinder side is just written wrong. | 19:24 |
| cburgess | Its going to run into issues with multi-attach eventually too I suspect | 19:24 |
| mriedem | huh, so with BFV today with a provided volume, we never call os-reserve on it? | 19:24 |
| mriedem | i guess not | 19:24 |
| cburgess | Nope | 19:25 |
| cburgess | We just make sure its "available" | 19:25 |
| cburgess | ildikov patch changes/fixes that | 19:25 |
| mriedem | yup | 19:25 |
| mriedem | which i tend to agree with | 19:25 |
| mriedem | i could BFV 2 instances with the same volume, they'd both pass the api but one would fail in the compute | 19:25 |
| ildikov | cburgess: reserve is already smart enough in Cinder | 19:25 |
| cburgess | mriedem So the question on Friday in BCN was... do we plan on landing ildikov patch. If so we have to take a different route to fix our issue. | 19:25 |
| mriedem | ildikov: cburgess wants os-reserve to allow 'available' or 'downloading' status for the volume | 19:26 |
| mriedem | to reserve it | 19:26 |
| mriedem | s/reserve/lock/ | 19:26 |
| ildikov | cburgess: and I also updated the BFV call which was missing the reserve_volume call | 19:26 |
| cburgess | mriedem ildikov Which won't work today because reserve changes the volume status to "attaching" which is wrong because its not attaching. Reserve should have used a new status field. | 19:26 |
| mriedem | ildikov: chet doesn't actually want nova calling os-reserve on the BFV volume in nova-api as it makes his job harder | 19:26 |
| mriedem | cburgess: well, that might also be fixed with the new create_attachment API stuff that john griffith is working on | 19:27 |
| cburgess | mriedem Thats a strong statement. Like I said I don't have strong feelings either way other then it makes my job harder. | 19:27 |
| mriedem | which decouples the status on the volume from the status on the attachment | 19:27 |
| ildikov | mriedem: cburgess bah, ok, I'm getting there | 19:27 |
| ildikov | cburgess: reserve is smart enough to handle multi-attach, just like the new calls will be that we're planning | 19:28 |
| cburgess | mriedem ildikov nic and I already worked out how to do this on the cinder and nova side using reserve. We just need to write a cinder spec for the changes and work on getting it landed. | 19:28 |
| mriedem | ildikov: but not for a volume that is still being created | 19:28 |
| mriedem | which is what chet cares about | 19:28 |
| ildikov | cburgess: besides that we only considered the current behavior | 19:28 |
| cburgess | ildikov The problem with reserve as written today is that it is monotomic. So with multiattach it supports a multiattach volume but *not* if its already been reserved. So you can only issue reserve once on a volume and then you have to wait until its no longer "attaching". | 19:29 |
| cburgess | ildikov At least thats what I seem to recall from reading the code a few weeks ago, maybe I'm wrong. | 19:29 |
| dansmith | bauzas: to resume, you think that even with one call, we should pass a tuple of (reqspec, instance) to the build call, right? | 19:29 |
| mriedem | cburgess: that's correct | 19:30 |
| cburgess | mriedem ildikov So the TL;DR version is.. I don't have an objection to the patch set to remove check-attach and use reserve. Just makes my life harder, but its OpenStack, I'm used to that. | 19:30 |
| prashkre | mriedem: Hi. Pls review https://review.openstack.org/391113 when u get sometime. Thank you! | 19:30 |
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| cburgess | mriedem Which feels weird to me to say this thing can support multi-attach but only monotomically. | 19:30 |
| ildikov | cburgess: I think it would worth a chat on the Cinder channel regarding doing those attaches in parallel | 19:31 |
| mriedem | cburgess: yeah that came up in the nova/cinder call this morning | 19:31 |
| mriedem | cburgess: we might change that over time | 19:31 |
| cburgess | mriedem ildikov fair enough | 19:31 |
| mriedem | but after we actually get the simple multiattach flow working first | 19:31 |
| cburgess | Its another one I don't have a strong opinion on other then "Huh thats weird" | 19:31 |
| ildikov | mriedem: +1 | 19:31 |
| bauzas | dansmith: well, I'm not really opiniated, I just wanted to make sure we pass a Requestspec per instance, not only one for a multiple instances call | 19:31 |
| harlowja | does the following ring-a-bell for anyone http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/periodic-nova-py27-with-oslo-master/7f6fac2/console.html#_2016-11-07_06_14_19_790374 ? | 19:31 |
| cburgess | mriedem I'm still hoping I can change your mind so I can just do it in the API, like it should be done. :P | 19:31 |
| bauzas | dansmith: so I thought about something like a tuple for each instance, but I leave you for the kind of format | 19:32 |
| dansmith | bauzas: but, right now, we do one reqspec per instance, right? | 19:32 |
| harlowja | oslo.policy doesn't seem to have changed, or oslo.middleware so wondering if its a known bug | 19:32 |
| dansmith | bauzas: wait | 19:32 |
| mriedem | harlowja: nope | 19:32 |
| dansmith | bauzas: we do one for all I mean | 19:32 |
| bauzas | dansmith: no, we have a Requestspec for each instance | 19:32 |
| bauzas | even if two instances are called at the same time | 19:33 |
| dansmith | bauzas: ah, right I see now | 19:33 |
| bauzas | dansmith: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/api.py#L921-L931 yup | 19:34 |
| mriedem | harlowja: according to logstash that only ever fails in the periodic job | 19:34 |
| harlowja | mriedem ya, which is odd | 19:34 |
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| mriedem | harlowja: tox -v -epy27-oslo-master - what is py27-oslo-master ? where is that defined? | 19:37 |
| harlowja | mriedem its dynamic :-/ | 19:37 |
| harlowja | https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/jenkins/scripts/run-tox-with-oslo-master.sh | 19:38 |
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| harlowja | http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/periodic-nova-py27-with-oslo-master/6235dad/console.html#_2016-11-06_06_03_45_855922 (installing all the oslo stuff from source) | 19:39 |
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| dansmith | bauzas: you mentioned deleting the requestspec further down, but shouldn't we do it at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374267/9/nova/compute/api.py@992 also? | 19:39 |
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| harlowja | mriedem wondering if it was https://github.com/openstack/oslo.context/commit/fd224586199f99affc5d37993907024bbf3cd00f | 19:42 |
| harlowja | hmmm | 19:42 |
| * harlowja will try that in a few | 19:43 | |
| mriedem | harlowja: fwiw that error seems to have shown up on 11/2 | 19:44 |
| mriedem | fd224586199f99affc5d37993907024bbf3cd00f merged in august | 19:44 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: correct, I missed that one | 19:45 |
| dansmith | bauzas: okay just wanted to make sure | 19:46 |
| bauzas | thanks for that, I still need to update my series for deleting the spec when calling the instance destroy() method | 19:46 |
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| harlowja | mriedem https://github.com/openstack/oslo.context/commit/e52b6f790f17edc321e9a1a3c41f945ed86a71f4 (11 days) | 19:46 |
| harlowja | its like the only change not yet released, ha | 19:47 |
| harlowja | (probably proposed in aug) | 19:47 |
| dansmith | bauzas: there also appears to be a *lot* of residue still of the legacy requestspec components :/ | 19:47 |
| mriedem | harlowja: yeah probably good point - just revert and run the tests and see if it works | 19:48 |
| harlowja | mriedem i'll run locally before that full on revert, ha | 19:49 |
| bauzas | dansmith: yup, I need to write a blueprint and ask during the next nova meeting about that being a specless one so we could clean that up | 19:49 |
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| bauzas | just had no time to do it yet | 19:50 |
| thorst_ | mriedem: sorry for the delay. Thx for the guidance on test ids | 19:50 |
| mriedem | bauzas: we probably don't need a spec to cleanup compat code | 19:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Update hacking version https://review.openstack.org/389338 | 19:52 |
| bauzas | mriedem: <3 | 19:52 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: yeah, was my thought, just wanted to make it clear :) | 19:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: WIP Compute: Reset bdm connection_info during LM rollback https://review.openstack.org/338929 | 19:53 |
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| mriedem | thorst_: +2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381772/ | 20:14 |
| mriedem | mikal is out this week on PTO | 20:14 |
| mriedem | so you'll have to grease another nova-specs core | 20:14 |
| cburgess | mriedem 2 weeks I think | 20:14 |
| mriedem | oh right | 20:14 |
| mriedem | yeah | 20:14 |
| mriedem | i even gave him shit for that | 20:14 |
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| thorst_ | mriedem: thx. We'll ask in the nova IRC meeting coming up. We'll work on things in background until then | 20:23 |
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| cfriesen | jaypipes: thanks | 20:26 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: maybe we should plan a spec review day ? | 20:30 |
| mriedem | bauzas: mayhap | 20:32 |
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| mriedem | spec freeze is 11/17 | 20:32 |
| mriedem | so maybe next monday | 20:32 |
| mriedem | that doesn't give a lot of time for responses though | 20:32 |
| bauzas | mriedem: yup, just thought about this possiblity given folks could help us | 20:33 |
| mriedem | could do it this wednesday but then we don't get to announce it in the nova meeting, just in the ML | 20:33 |
| bauzas | Friday maybe ? | 20:33 |
| mriedem | bauzas: i assume you mean non-core reviewers? | 20:33 |
| bauzas | mriedem: yup | 20:33 |
| mriedem | non-core specs reviewers can help us regardless... | 20:33 |
| mriedem | i could do friday | 20:34 |
| bauzas | mriedem: a review day is good for me because I'll leave other reviews and do the needed ones | 20:34 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: and of course, it could also be maybe explaining to the owners that they need to look at their specs by this day | 20:35 |
| mriedem | friday in general just kind of sucks b/c it's a low energy day for the most part | 20:35 |
| * bauzas nods | 20:38 | |
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| dansmith | bauzas: so we have to pass a (legacy) requestspec to the _schedule_instances() method, so if I pass one per instance, I have to just grab the first one and use that.. is that what you want? | 20:57 |
| dansmith | I mean that's effectively what was going on before, so I guess yes, | 20:58 |
| dansmith | and we just get them all over RPC that way | 20:58 |
| dansmith | in case they later diverge in some way | 20:58 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: so in general, I was passing the object in the RPC cast, and then using the primitiving method for getting the legacy dict | 20:59 |
| dansmith | I know, that's what is happening now | 20:59 |
| dansmith | that's not really what I'm asking | 20:59 |
| bauzas | sorry then | 20:59 |
| bauzas | I probably misunderstood your question | 20:59 |
| bauzas | you're asking if we should only pass one object? | 21:00 |
| dansmith | no | 21:00 |
| dansmith | nevermind | 21:00 |
| dansmith | I think I know what to do, you can review it when it's up | 21:00 |
| bauzas | okay, sorry :( | 21:00 |
| dansmith | it's okay | 21:01 |
| dansmith | saying it out loud made it semi-obvious to me | 21:02 |
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| mriedem | jaypipes: you should take a look at this spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182242/ | 21:08 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: really worries me about how much you have to thread that needle to even get it to work correctly | 21:08 |
| mriedem | and there is a whole crazy assumption about how the admin has configured the cloud which the user needs to know about to do this properly | 21:08 |
| mriedem | i guess that just all gets hidden in vendor docs | 21:08 |
| mriedem | dansmith: you too ^ | 21:08 |
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| dansmith | murgh. | 21:10 |
| dansmith | bauzas: if we get filter_properties from the reqspec, can we just remove passing that through the new rpc method altogether? seems like we must be able to, but you didn't say that in the review | 21:12 |
| bauzas | dansmith: yup, I thought I commented that | 21:13 |
| bauzas | dansmith: yes, please, the filter_props dict is actually merged with the other legacy request_spec dict into the object | 21:13 |
| dansmith | bauzas: well, you said something that implied it I guess, just wanted to be sure | 21:14 |
| bauzas | dansmith: sorry it was in the other change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367557/15/nova/conductor/api.py | 21:15 |
| dansmith | bauzas: ah, sure enough :) | 21:15 |
| bauzas | that's why I need a specless BP for the follow-ups about the ReqSpec objects, because I'll need to touch the RPC API to deprecate those old params | 21:16 |
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| dansmith | bauzas: http://pastebin.com/trSgkNy7 \o/ | 21:27 |
| bauzas | dansmith: LGTM :) | 21:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Update hacking version https://review.openstack.org/389338 | 21:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Return build_requests instead of instances https://review.openstack.org/374267 | 22:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add schedule_and_build_instances conductor method https://review.openstack.org/367557 | 22:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Refactor two nearly useless secgroup tests https://review.openstack.org/393438 | 22:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add CellDatabase fixture https://review.openstack.org/392925 | 22:13 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: no you weren't supposed to do it during a meeting and late at night!!! | 22:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/nova: Revert MTU hacks for bug 1623876 https://review.openstack.org/394669 | 23:02 |
| openstack | bug 1623876 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova is not setting the MTU provided by Neutron" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1623876 - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 23:02 |
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