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openstackgerritSTEW TY proposed openstack/nova: Complete verification for os-floating-ips  https://review.openstack.org/32970400:05
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openstackgerritSTEW TY proposed openstack/nova: Complete verification of servers-action-fixed-ip.inc  https://review.openstack.org/33860600:28
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openstackgerritJamie Lennox proposed openstack/nova: Remove manual handling of old context variables  https://review.openstack.org/37986900:31
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openstackgerritSTEW TY proposed openstack/nova: Fix opt description for network.py  https://review.openstack.org/34168801:31
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openstackgerritWenzhi Yu proposed openstack/nova: Report actual request_spec when MaxRetriesExceeded raised  https://review.openstack.org/31063901:53
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/37914102:21
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openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova-specs: The ResourceProviderTraits API - Manage traits with ResourceProviders  https://review.openstack.org/34513806:27
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openstackgerritHussain Chachuliya proposed openstack/nova: Replace uuid4() with uuidsentinel  https://review.openstack.org/37766306:52
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/nova: Fix periodic-nova-py27-with-oslo-master  https://review.openstack.org/37996206:59
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/nova: Fix periodic-nova-py{27,35}-with-oslo-master  https://review.openstack.org/37996207:01
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openstackgerritzhangyujun proposed openstack/nova: Update IronicDriver return  hypervisor_type  https://review.openstack.org/37996807:26
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cooliasme %m07:57
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ShashiHello team, I am getting error while attching Instance to Volume. Error says, "The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation." in n-cpu.log09:31
ShashiCan anyone help me with the solution for, this issue?09:32
johnthetubaguyalex_xu: I was sure about your comment on the upgrade things: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/37354909:34
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ldeptulaI found in document describing pinning following sentence "There is no overprovisioning for pinned instances". The question is why?09:45
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add a prelude section for Newton  https://review.openstack.org/38006509:47
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: you could be interested in ^09:47
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I mostly had focus on cells and scheduler thingies, but you could be some help about API stuff, in particular the proxy deprecation thing09:48
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: oh oops, that review should be stable/newton only09:48
johnthetubaguybauzas: ah, yeah, I can take a look09:49
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: better looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/380068/09:52
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johnthetubaguybauzas: that big deprecation of APIs around removing nova-net?09:55
kashyapmdbooth: If you're wondering what the NFS failure was on your patch - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/378746/3.  I added a small summary at the end.  tl;dr -- it's resolved09:55
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johnthetubaguybauzas: otherwise, its looking like a good summary09:55
mdboothkashyap: I was just reading it09:55
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mdboothSaw: libvirtError: argument unsupported: QEMU guest agent is not configured09:56
kashyapmdbooth: The problem was in the CI job, which was using old libvirt09:56
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: not only, IIRC we did signal we deprecated the proxying calls to Glance and others09:56
kashyapmdbooth: Look for the next error instance09:56
kashyap"2016-09-29 17:37:16.426 17106 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server Invalid: Relative blockcommit support was not detected. Libvirt '1.2.7' or later is required for online deletion of file/network storage-backed volume snapshots."09:56
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kashyapmdbooth: ^09:56
mdboothRelative blockcommit support was not detected09:56
mdboothWas just getting there :)09:56
mdboothkashyap: Thanks for beating me to it.09:56
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: that's the exact reason I wanted a summary, because http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/nova/unreleased.html is becoming huuuuuge09:56
mdboothSo, why would that have worked against the previous patch?09:56
bauzaseven once we squash the tags into a single sectrion09:57
johnthetubaguybauzas: yeah09:57
kashyapNo worries, just thought I'd save you a couple of minutes if I've already clicked on it :-)09:57
mdboothCoincidence, due to different testing host?09:57
kashyapYeah, good question - maybe that was running on Xenial09:57
* mdbooth sighs09:57
kashyap"Sneeze and it falls apart"09:57
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: found the deprecation notice about the API resources that proxify other services in http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/nova/unreleased.html#id509:58
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bauzas /images, /os-volumes etc.09:58
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bauzasI think it's important to remind that09:58
mdboothkashyap: That's not quite the end of the story, though, because the tempest test timed out09:58
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mdboothWhy didn't this result in a clean failure?09:59
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: okay, spinning a new patch09:59
kashyapmdbooth: I don't see the time out failure.  /me looks closely10:00
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mdboothkashyap: I mean that the tempest job timed out: Details: (VolumesV1SnapshotTestJSON:test_snapshot_delete_with_volume_in_use) Failed to delete volume-snapshot b367ccad-992f-46b1-a9ce-6a6281a69671 within the required time (196 s).10:04
mdboothI haven't looked closely at how the continuing tempest logs relate to the nova stack traces, though10:04
mdboothCould just be it's not handling failure.10:04
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kashyapYeah10:08
kashyapStill, I'm blind, and can't find the log as to where you're seeing that.  The only failed job (on your change) has this log - http://logs.openstack.org/46/378746/3/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-multinode-full-ubuntu-xenial/0504a40/console.html10:09
* mdbooth rechecked the wrong job :(10:10
* mdbooth apologises to the environment for wasting electricity10:10
kashyapmdbooth: No problem, to offset, just ensure to bike (rather than driving) that journey you're about to take sometime soon in near future :P10:11
mdboothHehe10:12
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/37914110:21
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Optional separate database for placement API  https://review.openstack.org/36276611:43
mdboothkashyap: I ran check experimental against that nfs job again this morning, and it's failed again11:45
mdboothkashyap: Just checking again to see if it ran on trusty or xenial11:46
mdboothBut I thought mriedem had pushed something to force it on to xenial, which is why I reran it.11:46
mdboothhttp://logs.openstack.org/86/147186/41/experimental/gate-tempest-dsvm-full-devstack-plugin-nfs-nv/fe58d89/11:46
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kashyapHmm, this seems to be the offending test11:49
kashyap tempest.scenario.test_server_advanced_ops.TestServerAdvancedOps.test_resize_volume_backed_server_confirm [33.263617s] ... FAILED11:49
kashyap2016-09-30 10:45:25.240751 |     Details: {u'code': 500, u'message': u"Cannot access storage file '/opt/stack/data/nova/mnt/896fb15da6036b68a917322e72ebfe57/volume-a048ed20-6752-4c59-a594-e9a2e1439085' (as uid:119, gid:120): No such file or directory", u'created': u'2016-09-30T10:37:42Z'}11:49
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alex_xu_johnthetubaguy:  yea, agree with you, it will be superfast. I just thought if there are something unexpected exception happend, disable the service is more safe.11:54
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alex_xu_jaypipes: cdent edleafe fyi, the poc of traits API is also ready https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/resource-provider-tags12:05
alex_xu_jaypipes: edleafe I and Yingxin is ok for hangout in next scheduler meeting. Let me know if you guys also think is ok. we will online next week.12:06
jaypipesalex_xu_: sweet :)12:06
jaypipesalex_xu_: nice work!12:06
alex_xu_jaypipes: thanks12:07
jaypipesalex_xu_: yes, hangout in next week meeintg good.12:07
alex_xu_jaypipes: cool, got it, I will inform Yingxin12:08
jaypipesalex_xu_: 谢谢12:09
alex_xu_jaypipes: 不客气,and, you learn new word also :)12:09
jaypipeslol, alex_xu_, Google Translate translates 不客气 to "impolite" or "rude" :)12:10
claudiub|2danpb: hello. if you have some time today, can you take a look at the Hyper-V OVS vif thingy? Thanks! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140045/12:10
alex_xu_jaypipes: ok, just is why I never trust google translations.  that is wrong.... it means "you are welcome" or "np"12:11
jaypipesalex_xu_: :)12:12
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Optional separate database for placement API  https://review.openstack.org/36276612:13
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johnthetubaguyalex_xu_: the requests should just get queued OK, so I don't think we want to tell people to do that, if its needed we should do that for them I think.12:21
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: conf: Attempt to resolve TODOs in scheduler.py  https://review.openstack.org/37464712:24
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: conf: Group scheduler options  https://review.openstack.org/34995912:24
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: conf: Deprecate 'scheduler_json_file_location'  https://review.openstack.org/37412112:24
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: conf: Deprecate all topic options  https://review.openstack.org/35160812:27
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: conf: Trivial cleanup of 'cells'  https://review.openstack.org/37467212:27
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: conf: Trivial cleanup of compute.py  https://review.openstack.org/37467312:27
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: conf: Trivial cleanup of console.py  https://review.openstack.org/37467412:27
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alex_xu_johnthetubaguy: yea, got your point.12:28
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: conf: Deprecate all topic options  https://review.openstack.org/35160812:43
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: conf: Trivial cleanup of 'cells'  https://review.openstack.org/37467212:43
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: conf: Trivial cleanup of compute.py  https://review.openstack.org/37467312:43
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: conf: Trivial cleanup of console.py  https://review.openstack.org/37467412:43
johnthetubaguyalex_xu_: important to have the discussion and get this written down though, we all have a slightly different idea on what we expect folks to do, at least thats what I am discovering12:43
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openstackgerritSergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova-specs: PCI NUMA Policies  https://review.openstack.org/36114012:53
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add PCIWeigher  https://review.openstack.org/37952413:01
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: hardware: Flatten functions  https://review.openstack.org/37962413:01
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Prefer non-PCI host nodes for non-PCI instances  https://review.openstack.org/37962513:01
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alex_xu_johnthetubaguy: ++13:03
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mdboothVery quiet in here today. Is it a US holiday or something?14:01
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BobBallshhhhh - I'm hunting wabbits14:07
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mdboothlol14:14
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mriedembauzas: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/380068/ we already cut rc214:15
mriedemso we'd have to do an rc3 to get that in14:15
bauzasyeah I know14:16
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bauzasmriedem: did we merged the translations ?14:16
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mriedemdhellmann: should we expect more translations after rc2?14:16
mriedemfor newton i mean14:16
bauzasmriedem: see btw. my last sentence on the commit msg :)14:17
mdboothmriedem: I *think* https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147186/ is happy with that change now you made it run on Xenial, btw.14:17
mdboothThere's still a failure, but it doesn't look related.14:17
mriedembauzas: yeah i saw that14:18
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bauzasmriedem: tbc, I forgot to tell you that before cutting rc2, we should probably implement the above, so that's my fault14:19
mriedemmdbooth: looking14:19
mriedembauzas: it's ok14:19
bauzasmriedem: but given we have a loooot of relnotes, I dunno, hence me saying your call :)14:19
mdboothmriedem: Please look carefully :)14:19
bauzasideally, I'd love to have a prelude section for any release, because it helps operators and journalists for looking at that14:20
mdboothNewton: Just the Hits.14:20
mdboothbauzas: Incidentally (and seriously) might be a good retro topic. Have we written relnotes for the right things? Are there too many? Are there too few?14:22
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bauzasmdbooth: I think it's okay to have a lot of relnotes14:23
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bauzasmdbooth: I just want to have a summary14:23
bauzasabout the main topics merged by the release14:23
* mdbooth has no opinion, just having lots to look at is an opportunity to revew relnotes policy.14:23
mriedemwe definitely use release notes as a crux for lack of officially and completely documenting things14:23
mriedemwhich is bad14:23
mriedem*crutch14:23
bauzasI love the fact that we can backport a note in case we merge some patch14:24
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mdboothmriedem: Are they sufficient for docs writers to update the docs?14:24
bauzasI'm also loving to see that now, most of our contributors help us about the notes14:24
mriedeme.g. we haven't documented cells v2 or the placement stuff anywhere as far as upgrades are concerned, except release notes14:24
bauzaswhile I remember about Liberty and Kilo, me looking at the wiki14:24
* mdbooth thinks in-tree relnotes is awesome, btw.14:24
mriedemmdbooth: i'm never sure about that14:24
bauzaswith only a few people thinking about amending relnotes14:25
mriedemsometimes the docs people amaze me at what they can write up w/o asking questions14:25
bauzasbut I agree with mriedem, relnotes are not for documenting a feature, rather just explaining it14:25
bauzass/explaining/exposing (better)14:25
bauzasso that's our responsibility to ask for brevity (yeah, I know, it's not something I'm doing :p) and clarity14:26
superdanIMHO relnotes are for people that are already familiar, to know that there are changes or new features that they should go look at the docs for14:26
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bauzasI'd loooove to see operators reading those notes *before* upgrading14:27
bauzassomething like "did you read the notes ? y/n" before upgrading14:27
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superdanthey *should* be doing that, IMHO14:27
bauzasbut anyway, it's like ToS, only a few of us do that14:27
bauzasoh man, it's friday, f***14:27
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bauwserweeks are always too short :/14:28
bauwserand FWIW, I looove Friday nicks (hello, little blue bird called Twitter)14:28
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openstackgerritGábor Antal proposed openstack/nova: Make docstring comments more consistent in rpcapi.py  https://review.openstack.org/38034414:31
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superdanmriedem: so this set fixes a real problem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329422/414:52
superdanmriedem: but it's long.. are you cool with backporting all of that/14:52
superdanif so, I'll go through it but didn't want to if you're categorically opposed or something14:52
superdaner, that doesn't show the full series well14:53
superdanthese https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/mitaka+topic:bug/140553314:54
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mriedemsuperdan: the backports related to that were all fubar at some point14:59
mriedemwith like 5 unit test patches/refactors preceeding it14:59
mriedemyeah this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329421/14:59
mriedemso they were all separate14:59
mriedemthen they were squashed14:59
openstackgerritPaul Carlton proposed openstack/nova: API changes for live migration of rescued instance  https://review.openstack.org/32828014:59
mriedemand now it's a big ass test refactor in a backport14:59
mriedemwhich sucks14:59
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mriedemthose are squashed because i mentioned it here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329287/15:00
mriedemwhat i'd really prefer, if it's not impossible, is backport the actual bug fixes and adjust tests as necessary15:00
mriedemw/o 400 LOC of unit test refactor15:00
superdanmriedem: yeah, which is why I was having a hard time finding a common root to link15:01
mtreinishmriedem: what was the max microversion for newton we ended up on? I lost count15:01
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superdanmriedem: yeah, that's why I wanted to ask, because it was a few refactors before the real meat15:01
superdanso I guess I'll skip that one for now15:01
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mriedemmtreinish: 2.3815:04
mtreinishmriedem: thanks15:04
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sneti_johnthetubaguy, can you please review this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/338553/.15:12
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esbergluThis week we are supposed to tag the final release candidates for newton. After that point only “final-release-critical” changes are supposed to go in. Does anyone have anything that they would like to get in before this tag?15:22
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esbergluSorry wrong channel15:23
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mriedemyikes, it seems like we shouldn't stacktrace on this http://logs.openstack.org/86/147186/41/experimental/gate-tempest-dsvm-full-devstack-plugin-nfs-nv/fe58d89/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz?level=TRACE#_2016-09-30_10_36_32_03915:34
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Allow running db archiving continuously  https://review.openstack.org/37871815:35
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mriedemsuperdan: melwitt: so who's going to get ^ ?15:39
mriedemsince you have dueling patches15:39
superdanmriedem: if melwitt makes hers do the things mine does then she can have it :P15:40
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superdanor we could lock the two patches in a cage and see which one pecks the other to death15:40
melwittI'm concerned about the single transaction thing. I didn't realize that when I did mine. if it's all in a single transaction then I don't think that's going to be okay15:41
melwitthah. yeah let's do that15:41
superdanat a minimum the single transaction thing means you start it running, and after two hours of nothing being completed, you kill it and lose everything15:42
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superdanafter running this on a real dataset of not very bigness, I realized that being able to make incremental progress is pretty important15:42
melwittyeah, that makes sense15:42
superdanI kept canceling it thinking it was hung15:42
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melwittI had been thinking if there would be a way to add your keyboard interrupt stuff to what I did but it can't work like that15:43
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superdanyeah it can't15:44
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mriedemman the _can_quiesce method in the libvirt driver is all sorts of nasty15:45
mriedem"can i do this thing?"15:45
mriedemyou expect True/False15:45
mriedembut what you get is ERROR!15:45
melwitthey, that's even better than True/False15:48
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mdboothmriedem: I see you've removed your -1, btw. Anything I can do to help turn that into a +2?15:58
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kashyapmdbooth: Just saw that too, I interpreted it as: "I don't know what else is lurking here"16:00
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mdboothkashyap: Sssh, we're all thinking it.16:01
mdboothNobody knows what lies beneath.16:02
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kashyapHehe16:03
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Allow running db archiving continuously  https://review.openstack.org/37871816:05
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openstackgerritLudovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova-specs: Improve usability of booting guest with SR-IOV  https://review.openstack.org/36228716:05
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mriedemmdbooth: was going to check the nfs job results a bit more, but got sidetracked with this quiesce turd16:06
mriedemthat i'm fixing atm16:06
mdboothmriedem: Ah, ok.16:07
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dianaHave you guys already discussed the impact these changes had on the unit test slowness? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318135/16:10
dianaSome unit tests now sleep for 1 + 2 + 4 + 8 + 10 = 25 seconds each now.16:12
dianaPerhaps inc_retry_interval=False again?16:14
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mdboothdiana: Since Jun 29?16:16
dianamdbooth: I haven't profiled the tests recently. But they are now 2 x slower than they were in Feb.16:16
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mdboothdiana: Fun.16:17
mdboothIs this change definitely a major factor in that?16:17
superdanwouldn't that mean we had unit tests hitting db deadlocks?16:17
dianasuperdan: we do, intentionally I think16:18
superdandiana: example?16:18
mdboothdeadlocks, or 'deadlocks'16:18
superdanif so, those should be mocking out time.sleep anyway16:18
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dianasuperdan: the first of these, for sure (perhaps all of them) http://paste.openstack.org/show/583643/16:20
mriedemsuperdan: diana: we were definitely hitting timeouts in the db tests16:20
mriedemsdague had bumped the timeout on those recently16:20
mriedembut that was based on a recent regression in an oslo.db release, not something from jun16:21
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: WIP: libvirt: check if we can quiesce before volume-backed snapshot  https://review.openstack.org/38043316:21
mriedemmdbooth: kashyap: ^ still needs tests, i'll do those after lunch16:21
superdandiana: I'm not sure how that first one ends up with a real db deadlock16:21
superdanunless maybe it's retrying other things16:22
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mdboothmriedem: Yeah, I was wondering about that. Seems inefficient to check every time. However, I guess that, outside of a bunch of tempest tests of snapshotting, it probably doesn't matter all that much.16:23
mriedemthe alternative was just change the error to a warning, but warning on something we can check seems bad16:24
mriedemso i went with the bigger patch16:24
mriedemanyway, going to lunch16:24
mdboothmriedem: Ah, os_require_quiesce is already a thing16:25
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dianaI'm pretty sure reverting back to inc_retry_interval=False would make the unit tests at least 2 minutes faster.16:46
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openstackgerritLucian Petrut proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: fix live migration with CSVs  https://review.openstack.org/38044817:03
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dianaUnit tests aside, I'm not convinced this is how we want production code path retries to work either. It's a change in bahaviour at minimum.17:08
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dianaAnyhoo, seed planted for folks that know more than me about nova ;)17:11
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oomichimriedem: can you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379044/ again? I am guessing that is not so bad17:12
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mriedemoomichi: +217:48
oomichimriedem: thanks :)17:48
dianaAnd if I'm not mistaken, we didn't sleep at all before b/c retry_interval defaulted to 0. So it used to 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 vs 1 + 2 + 4 + 8 + 10 now.17:49
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openstackgerritKen'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Fix error status code on update-volume API  https://review.openstack.org/37904417:59
oomichimriedem: ah, I missed your comment. Sorry about that. ^^^ is updated for adding the NOTE17:59
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mriedemanyone want to write a unit test for this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366857/18:13
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Prevent us from sleeping during DB retry tests  https://review.openstack.org/38048118:29
superdandiana: that is how I would address it ^18:29
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superdanthe backoff routine _is_ appropriate for production, IMHO18:30
superdanit used to be a static sleep IIRC.. surprised to see it was ever zero18:30
mriedemsuperdan: why not just decorate that on the test class18:31
mriedemrather than the individual unit tests18:31
superdanmriedem: could, but them every test has to take that param right?18:32
mriedemno, there is a way to not do that18:32
mriedemit involves some trickery18:32
superdanorly?18:32
superdanlay it upon me18:32
mriedemuse new=18:33
mriedem"If new is omitted, then the target is replaced with a MagicMock. If patch() is used as a decorator and new is omitted, the created mock is passed in as an extra argument to the decorated function."18:33
superdanah, okay18:34
superdanthat's good because I just found one I missed18:34
superdanfixing18:34
mriedemooo i should -1 quick18:34
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superdanmriedem: snag it18:35
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mriedemconsider my stats padded18:36
superdanmriedem: you mean the base-base test case? I don't see that they share a common base in there18:36
mriedemi just meant the ones in there18:36
mriedemnot nova.test.TestCase18:36
superdanokay, I wonder if that's less mocks18:36
superdanI guess it is by a few18:36
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mriedemit also guards against new tests slipping back in18:36
superdansure18:37
mriedemwe could do a fixture or something in the base test class with a local variable, like USES_DB, that subclasses could toggle if they really didn't want sleep mocked out,18:37
mriedembut meh18:37
superdanyeah, meh18:37
mriedemSERIOUSLY_I_NEED_SOME_SLEEP=True18:37
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openstackgerritMathieu Gagné proposed openstack/nova-specs: Multiple Fixed-IPs support in network information  https://review.openstack.org/31262618:42
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Prevent us from sleeping during DB retry tests  https://review.openstack.org/38048118:44
superdanboom18:44
mat128superdan: ^ouch18:45
mat128sleeping in tests18:45
openstackgerritMathieu Gagné proposed openstack/nova-specs: Multiple Fixed-IPs support in network information  https://review.openstack.org/31262618:45
superdanmat128: yeah18:46
mgagnemat128: and the above spec ^18:47
mat128mgagne: reading18:47
mgagnefinally found time to update it, still looking for feedback regarding routes18:48
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mat128mgagne: a few questions inline18:54
mat128mgagne: I think the question of merging routes / subnets can be left to the tools reading the information18:54
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peter-hamiltonjohnthetubaguy: do you have a minute?18:55
superdanpeter-hamilton: it's like 7pm on a friday where he is18:55
mgagnemat128: could this end up with non-deterministic results due to routes ordering?18:56
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peter-hamiltonsuperdan: oh right, uk18:56
mat128mgagne: I dont think so, imagine a list of vifs, if they each have route information, we just provide it18:56
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mat128mgagne: is this only a concern if we have mutliple nics?18:57
mgagneit has much more impact if the route is the default route. additional routes can be in any order, there should be any priority.18:57
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mat128mgagne: Oh, you mean the case where we have multiple IPs from different subnets?18:57
mgagnemat128: yes, that too... forgot to mention it :O18:57
mgagneyes18:58
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mgagnemat128: will update with those details18:58
mat128mgagne: can both subnets have their own gateway in neutron?18:58
mat128mgagne: I guess so?18:58
mgagneyes18:58
mat128ok then, if there a format that would allow us to simply provide all the required information to cloud-init18:58
mat128mgagne: so if cloud init decides to take the default gw from the first one, thats an implementation detail18:58
mat128our job was to provide everything18:58
mat128mgagne: (if that logic was used back then, you wouldn't even have to write that spec)18:59
mgagnemat128: I think the fact that subnets aren't fully modelized in network_data.json makes the job harder since all data is merged.19:00
mgagneI sure would like more input from other operators in case we forget use cases19:00
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mat128I think JayF/morgabra were interested19:01
mat128it's a short read :)19:02
JayFit wasn't me19:02
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JayFmat128: what am I interested in?19:02
openstackgerritDiana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: oslo_db wrap_db_retry defaults changed  https://review.openstack.org/38049419:04
openstackgerritMathieu Gagné proposed openstack/nova-specs: Multiple Fixed-IPs support in network information  https://review.openstack.org/31262619:04
mgagneJayF: this spec ^19:04
JayFI'll open it up and have a look19:04
superdandiana: you must have missed my ping earlier19:05
peter-hamiltonsuperdan: had to step out, thanks for the reminder, I forgot where he worked19:05
superdanpeter-hamilton: np19:05
dianasuperdan: yeah, I lost power and didn't realize I was typing into a dead IRC client.19:05
superdandiana: I don't think interval=0 makes sense.. it used to be static nonzero, but exponential backoff is better.. nonzero for production though I think19:06
peter-hamiltonsuperdan: question for you though; interested in getting additional feedback on: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357151/19:06
peter-hamiltonsuperdan: not today obv19:06
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dianasuperdan: Anyhoo, I can purpose that patch to consolidate the calls. Since they're all the same minus one option that's now deprecated and always true regardless what you pass in.19:06
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superdanpeter-hamilton: well, I'll look at that when I start really digging into ocata specs, but sounds like danpb already has a lot of feedback on there19:07
peter-hamiltonsuperdan: yes, I'm gathering material for a rework. I wanted to see if anyone else on core was interested in chiming in.19:08
superdanpeter-hamilton: yeah, I've given my feedback on previous attempts and in person to some degree I think19:08
peter-hamiltonsuperdan: gotcha, I'll dredge up the history then! thanks for the spare minutes19:09
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cfriesen_question about live migration....when issuing a live migration request is there any way to map that specific migration to the output of "nova migration-list"?19:19
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dianasuperdan: I was thinking on working on this next: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/paginate-simple-tenant-usage19:41
dianasuperdan: unless you know of any reason why I shouldn't19:41
diana(like you started already, for example_19:41
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superdandiana: you shouldn't because it's stealing19:41
superdandiana: ...is what I would say if I actually wanted to do that :)19:42
superdandiana: haven't started, needs doing, have at it19:42
dianasuperdan: okie dokie, thanks19:42
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mriedemkashyap: mdbooth: reviewed that thing, -1 for something simple, but some questions inline19:43
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sneti_Hi, We are trying to upgrade nova from mitaka to newton in multinode environment. n-api-meta on node2 fails with the error: ServiceTooOld: This service is older (v9) than the minimum (v15) version of the rest of the deployment. Unable to continue. Can anyone help me on this.20:25
superdansneti_: did you upgrade all your api services together?20:27
sneti_superdan, I upgraded only nova on controller node(node1). And I have n-api and compute on node2 which are not upgraded.20:30
superdansneti_: that message means that all the records for the service (api in this case) have reported version 15, but you're trying to start a version 9 service20:30
superdansneti_: yeah, so you can avoid the compute service upgrade until later but not the api one20:30
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openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Log parsing tool and post_test_hook script  https://review.openstack.org/37653120:33
sneti_superdan, we have 2 n-api's. Trying to update one n-api at a time. We are checking if old api is working with new controller services.20:34
superdansneti_: yeah I get that20:34
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superdansneti_: running different versions of the api is somewhat of a problem, because a client will see and older or newer api on subsequent calls20:35
superdansneti_: regardless, unless you want to muck with your database and take some risk, you're beyond the point of no return so you should upgrade your second n-api in order to move forward20:35
superdansneti_: this used to be a strict no-no, and doing what you're doing to seriously endanger your data.. mitaka/newton is when we first started even having checks to allow for this, and that check is warning you that it can't start for good reason20:36
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sneti_superdan, so there is no way to upgrade n-api in batches like we do for n-cpu20:38
superdansneti_: theoretically you can in newton, but the gotcha is that once one of your older n-api nodes becomes checked out of the database, it can't re-join, because we can't have the global minimum versions go backwards20:39
superdansneti_: but yeah, this was never supported before, and newton was the first time we even tried to allow it without silent corruption20:39
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superdansneti_: historically only the compute nodes could be mixed versions and the control plane (all api, scheduler, conductor, etc) nodes had to be the new version20:40
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sneti_superdan thanks for the explanation.20:42
superdansneti_: no problem, good luck :)20:43
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jrollmriedem: are there any ironic/nova topics you want to cover at summit (and were you planning on leaving a session for us, or should we do that, or meh)?20:50
mriedemjroll: i wasn't planning on it20:50
mriedemunless friday meetup20:50
mriedemthe only thing i know about that didn't make newton was the console thing20:51
jrollmriedem: yeah, I can't think of much to talk about either, other than scheduler things20:51
mriedemdynamic resource classes will probably be covered in one of the 2 placement sessions20:51
jrollright20:51
jrollconsole thing almost certainly doesn't need a session20:51
jrollalright, thanks man20:53
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mriedemjroll: you should totally review that console patch though20:54
mriedemi'd feel more warm and fuzzy if you were +1 on it20:55
jrollmriedem: it's so boring though20:55
* jroll does it20:55
jrollmriedem: know that ruby is a way better reviewer than I am though, nothing slips through her20:55
mriedems/through/by/ ?20:56
jrollboth? heh20:56
mriedemor is she a ghost?20:56
jrollwho knows!20:56
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mriedemeasy +W https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253666/21:03
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openstackgerritMathieu Gagné proposed openstack/nova-specs: Multiple Fixed-IPs support in network information  https://review.openstack.org/31262621:04
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mgagnemriedem: is there any reason for a 3rd party CI to vote or test nova-specs?21:09
mriedemmgagne: not really21:10
mgagneok thanks21:11
mriedemmgagne: why? that "Open-E JovianDSS CI" job?21:11
mgagneyea21:11
mriedemi have no idea what that is21:11
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mgagnehttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems/Open-E_JovianDSS_CI  Current Status: disabled21:12
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova-specs: Amend spec for 'get me a network'  https://review.openstack.org/35614721:40
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: refresh instances_path when shared storage used  https://review.openstack.org/36685721:46
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mriedemanother easy one ^21:46
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openstackgerritMichael Glaser proposed openstack/nova: Transform instance.unpause notifications  https://review.openstack.org/38066823:13
auggyi'm just gonna leave this here.. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41nkxGeZjtL.jpg23:15
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openstackgerritSTEW TY proposed openstack/nova: Complete verification for os-floating-ips  https://review.openstack.org/32970423:27
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