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| mriedem | oh snap it merged | 00:15 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: not yet no | 00:15 |
| mriedem | the placement job is in the experimental queue in devstack btw | 00:15 |
| mriedem | if you want to test that change | 00:15 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/363871 | 00:15 |
| dansmith | yeah, but it should be good since we're healing ever couple minutes | 00:15 |
| dansmith | not worried | 00:15 |
| dansmith | merged -> woot | 00:15 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: see my devstack change and explanation? | 00:17 |
| mriedem | dansmith: yeah | 00:17 |
| mriedem | i just checked it for the placement job | 00:17 |
| mriedem | # NOTE(danms): LOL @ py3 | 00:18 |
| mriedem | nice | 00:18 |
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| mriedem | ok i don't see anything else we need to wait for, there are 2 changes in the check queue for nova | 00:19 |
| mriedem | i'm going to tag it and bag it | 00:19 |
| dansmith | cool | 00:19 |
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| mriedem | booya https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364600/ | 00:22 |
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| dansmith | still getting those vcpu warnings with 4x overcommit, not sure why | 00:28 |
| dansmith | wonder if the allocation code isn't honoring those | 00:28 |
| dansmith | hmm, seems like it is | 00:31 |
| dansmith | oh well, I'll poke tomorrow | 00:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | liuxiuli proposed openstack/nova: Modify request numa_topology when resize https://review.openstack.org/340270 | 00:44 |
| openstackgerrit | zhufl proposed openstack/nova: Remove unused conf https://review.openstack.org/364031 | 00:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Brown proposed openstack/nova: VMware: deprecate wsdl_location conf option https://review.openstack.org/342470 | 03:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Bin Zhou proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Modify use of assertTrue(A in B) https://review.openstack.org/364637 | 03:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Enable cold migration with target host https://review.openstack.org/357105 | 04:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Slawek Kaplonski proposed openstack/nova: Fix race condition bug during live_snapshot https://review.openstack.org/363926 | 06:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hussain Chachuliya proposed openstack/nova: Refactor: Move post method to APIValidationTestCase base class https://review.openstack.org/364687 | 06:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tomonobu Niwa proposed openstack/nova: incorrect description in nova-api.log about quota check https://review.openstack.org/364698 | 07:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hussain Chachuliya proposed openstack/nova: Refactor: Move post method to APIValidationTestCase base class https://review.openstack.org/364687 | 07:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Removed enum duplication from nova.compute https://review.openstack.org/335066 | 07:30 |
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| hussain_c | jaypipes, alaski: Hi, could you please take a look at this small code optimization patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364687/ | 07:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tomonobu Niwa proposed openstack/nova: incorrect description in nova-api.log about quota check https://review.openstack.org/364698 | 08:01 |
| openstackgerrit | JiWei proposed openstack/nova: 'unmap' is written without considering the configuration https://review.openstack.org/364122 | 08:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | yuanyue proposed openstack/nova: Fix incorrect debug information about quota check https://review.openstack.org/364752 | 08:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: numa: Fixes NUMA topology related unit tests https://review.openstack.org/278835 | 08:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Fixes python 3 unit tests https://review.openstack.org/278810 | 08:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: compute: fixes python 3 related unit tests https://review.openstack.org/300262 | 08:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Optional separate database for placement API https://review.openstack.org/362766 | 08:44 |
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| snikitin_ | Hi folks! I have a one question. Is it possible to backport bug fix which adds some new fields to nova object. This fix doesn't change API or rpc. just nova object. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307124/21/nova/objects/migration_context.py | 08:56 |
| snikitin_ | ? | 08:57 |
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| cdent | snikitin_: I'm not expert on that stuff, but adding fields would require a version change on the object which I guess make it undesirable as a backport | 08:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add {get_,set_}aggregates to objects.ResourceProvider https://review.openstack.org/355263 | 08:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Implement get and set aggregates in the placement API https://review.openstack.org/357993 | 08:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: [placement] add a placement_aggregates table to api_db https://review.openstack.org/362863 | 08:59 |
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| prateek | johnthetubaguy, can you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294513/ when you have some free time ? | 09:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/363871 | 09:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Krzysztof Świątek proposed openstack/nova: Fix issue with not removing rbd rescue disk https://review.openstack.org/314928 | 10:15 |
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| kswiatek | sdague, pkoniszewski, melwitt, mdbooth, could you review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314928/ | 10:18 |
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| kswiatek | and I have question, I heard if I add specfic tags (related to review), it will speed up a little bit searching this review, and so reviewing process. If it's true what tags I can add? :) | 10:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Forcing a configdrive in cfg should populate DB https://review.openstack.org/364814 | 10:23 |
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| mdbooth | kashyap: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1619606 | 10:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1619606 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "snapshot_volume_backed races, could result in data corruption" [Undecided,New] | 10:31 |
| * kashyap clicks | 10:32 | |
| kashyap | mdbooth: Speaking of races, another fun "race" -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/363926/3 "Fix race condition bug during live_snapshot" | 10:32 |
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| mdbooth | kashyap: Fun! | 10:34 |
| kashyap | I did a write-up to libvirt upstream, and they agreed it's a valid bug | 10:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova: Throw exception if hw:numa_nodes is set to 0 https://review.openstack.org/337380 | 10:34 |
| mdbooth | kashyap: I don't understand how that patch fixes it, though | 10:34 |
| kashyap | See Eric's (as usual, eloquent) response to my question and context -- http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2016-September/msg00011.html | 10:34 |
| mdbooth | If libvirt returns 0, then presumably 'cur/end' are still in the returned status, but with values of 0 | 10:35 |
| mdbooth | So setting a default of -1 isn't going to be effective, right? | 10:35 |
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| kashyap | mdbooth: Setting a default of "-1" means | 10:35 |
| kashyap | Don't complete the job yet | 10:36 |
| * mdbooth should look at the caller | 10:36 | |
| kashyap | I.e. to finish the blockRebase() operation | 10:36 |
| kashyap | Libvirt issues blockJobAbort(), too soon | 10:36 |
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| kashyap | Here, "too soon" == before QEMU reports the status as "ready": true | 10:37 |
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| kashyap | If you have time, this walkthrough of the libvirt <-> QEMU traffic clearly demonstrates it -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1530275/comments/16 | 10:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1530275 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Live snapshot is corrupted (possibly race condition?)" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 10:37 |
| * mdbooth notes that wait_for_job doesn't do any waiting :/ | 10:37 | |
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| mdbooth | Ah... there are 2 methods called get_job_info | 10:40 |
| kashyap | mdbooth: Yeah, too many wrappers :-( | 10:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lucian Petrut proposed openstack/nova: HyperV: ensure config drives are copied as well during resizes https://review.openstack.org/364829 | 10:43 |
| mdbooth | kashyap: So if the job hasn't started yet, end ==0, and cur is not set? | 10:43 |
| kashyap | mdbooth: No: | 10:44 |
| kashyap | mdbooth: "If qemu doesn't report anything (because the job is not started yet), then libvirt should report cur=0, end=1 (the job still has 100% to go)." | 10:44 |
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| kashyap | There are 6 possible scenarios here. Eric outlines potential way to address them in the above thread. | 10:45 |
| * mdbooth reads eric's mail | 10:45 | |
| openstackgerrit | Slawek Kaplonski proposed openstack/nova: Fix race condition bug during live_snapshot https://review.openstack.org/363926 | 10:50 |
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| kashyap | mdbooth: While reading, Eric made a little typo there, wherever you see "done" in quotes, replace it with "ready", that's what QEMU calls that string as. | 10:54 |
| mdbooth | kashyap: Can you think of a case where end might legitimately be zero? | 10:55 |
| mdbooth | A zero-sized block device? | 10:55 |
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| kashyap | mdbooth: Yeah, that could possibly one case. But what would one do with a zero-size block device? (Stashed it to populate it with contents later?) | 10:56 |
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| mdbooth | Eric describes a future where libvirt returns cur != end, but right now cur=0, end=0 is theoretically ambiguous, right? | 10:56 |
| * kashyap thinks a bit more... | 10:56 | |
| mdbooth | If end was really 0, and this signalled completion, then we'd hang forever | 10:57 |
| kashyap | mdbooth: Yes, indeed it is ambigious, as it stands. | 10:57 |
| mdbooth | But we could potentially work round that elsewhere | 10:57 |
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| kashyap | If the job hasn't started, QEMU reports cur == end == 0, which can make Nova think: "Oh, the job seems to be completed, let's abort it" | 10:58 |
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| * kashyap 's brain hurts thinking of all these cases. | 10:58 | |
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| johnthetubaguy | raj_singh: do you know if anyway is looking at updating the compute conf reference dock thing? | 11:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | Hmm, bummer, net splitting again | 11:08 |
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| cdent | p!spy 2 | 11:44 |
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| csatari | I would like to ask for help with api_sample_tests. | 12:03 |
| csatari | I woudld like to test a new microversion, let say 2.39 | 12:03 |
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| csatari | I've created a v2.39 directory under .../servers | 12:04 |
| csatari | and added the relevant .json.tpl files. | 12:04 |
| csatari | When I run the testcase I get the following error: | 12:05 |
| csatari | No such file or directory: '/run/media/csatari/MyVolume/work/OpenStack/nova/nova/doc/api_samples/servers/v2.39/servers-list-resp.json | 12:05 |
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| csatari | However I have a servers-list.resp.tpl there. | 12:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Breno Leitão proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add hugepages support for Power https://review.openstack.org/303564 | 12:11 |
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| gibi | syjulian: hi! finally I managed to write up the json schema bp for nova for ocata https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/json-schema-for-versioned-notifications | 12:29 |
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| mriedem | this is holding up another change on stable/mitaka, can someone take a look at this backport? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357566/ | 13:17 |
| bauwser | mriedem: on it, but only +1ing :) | 13:19 |
| mriedem | it's the thought that counts | 13:19 |
| bauwser | the 3rd-party CI is green and the change looks reasonable, so I don't expect too much of debate here :) | 13:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Alberto Planas proposed openstack/nova: Add migrate_uri for invoking the migration https://review.openstack.org/356558 | 13:22 |
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| mdbooth | mriedem bauwser: Incidentally, I filed this bug earlier today: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1619606 | 13:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1619606 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "snapshot_volume_backed races, could result in data corruption" [Undecided,New] | 13:23 |
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| mdbooth | It might interact with this. | 13:23 |
| mriedem | well, if we set a task state in the api then the 2nd volume-backed snapshot shouldn't get in right? | 13:25 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: Right. | 13:26 |
| mdbooth | I think it's a 'simple' fix | 13:26 |
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| mdbooth | In a, it-sounds-simple-but-the-potential-interactions-are-really-scary kind of way | 13:26 |
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| mdbooth | mriedem: Unless you were asking if snapshot_volume_backed() is called by snapshot(), and it's all therefore ok? | 13:29 |
| mdbooth | If so, weirdly not. | 13:29 |
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| mriedem | nope | 13:30 |
| mdbooth | Although I think that would be the cleanest fix. Push the is_volume_backed test into snapshot() and have it call the correct implementation after setting a task state | 13:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: WIP: live-migration test hook for serial console https://review.openstack.org/347471 | 13:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Acquire TCP ports for console during live migration https://review.openstack.org/275801 | 13:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: fix live-migration with serial console check https://review.openstack.org/335132 | 13:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: Add functional regression test for bug 1595962 https://review.openstack.org/338416 | 13:32 |
| openstack | bug 1595962 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "live migration with disabled vnc/spice not possible" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1595962 - Assigned to Markus Zoeller (markus_z) (mzoeller) | 13:32 |
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| dansmith | cdent: see my reply to your "what we know" email | 13:37 |
| * cdent waits for delivery | 13:37 | |
| cdent | ah, there it is, reading | 13:38 |
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| cdent | dansmith: so are you thinking the problem is not in the writing of the allocations, but rather that the scheduler is being "wrong" and we've exposed that problem as a result of the allocation handling? Or, that we're not doing allocation ratio properly in the placement api? | 13:39 |
| markus_z | mriedem: FYI: I've put the bugs for these patches on the RC blocker list: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=newton-rc-potential | 13:40 |
| mriedem | markus_z: ok | 13:40 |
| dansmith | cdent: could be the latter, but the scheduler is definitely not configured to care about overcommitting vcpus, so it's entirely possible that we're over that limit.. I just would have thought setting the ratio to 4.0 would clear it up | 13:40 |
| dansmith | cdent: I'm going to poke locally today, but thought you could look as well | 13:40 |
| cdent | yeah, can do | 13:40 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: this looks like it might be in your wheelhouse https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1597521 | 13:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1597521 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "files should not be injected if config drive is configured" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Vladik Romanovsky (vladik-romanovsky) | 13:41 |
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| mriedem | mdbooth: are you still good with the patch for that bug? | 13:41 |
| mdbooth | Looking... | 13:41 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: Yup, still good. | 13:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Update reno for stable/newton https://review.openstack.org/364954 | 13:43 |
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| mriedem | mdbooth: hmm, would have been nice to just fix the bug in that block of code w/o moving it all out into a separate method | 13:50 |
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| mriedem | makes it hard to identify what the actual fix is | 13:50 |
| mriedem | the refactor should have come on top separately | 13:50 |
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| cdent | dansmith: a thing I'm noticing just now while watching the logs is that when I create a server it immediately puts the allocations and then puts inventories three times | 13:51 |
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| cdent | which is a bit more than I would have expected, even given that we are being promiscuous | 13:52 |
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| mriedem | ah i see rpodolyaka said the same thing | 13:54 |
| dansmith | cdent: I think it's because of the generation conflicts.. it tries to optimistically calculate the next generation when it does one inventory | 13:54 |
| mriedem | don't mingle refactors with bug fixes | 13:54 |
| dansmith | cdent: when I wrote that I didn't realize we'd be bumping it during allocation too | 13:54 |
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| dansmith | cdent: I'm stacking now with all current stuff, in a bit I'll see if I see that pattern exactly too | 13:55 |
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| cdent | I'm only seeing 200 status, no 409, which is what would be required if it was generation conflict? | 13:55 |
| * cdent checks the logging code | 13:55 | |
| dansmith | oh? | 13:56 |
| cdent | grep PUT placement-api.log |grep inventories |grep -v 'status: 200' has a null result | 13:57 |
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| dansmith | I'm just now building a devstack with the logging fixes so I haven't see any of that yet | 13:57 |
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| mdbooth | mriedem: Also sfinucan and I both agreed :) | 13:58 |
| mdbooth | However, I don't have a code fairy and the job's already done | 13:58 |
| mdbooth | So I wasn't bothered enough for a -1 | 13:59 |
| * cdent experiments som more | 13:59 | |
| mriedem | what would a code fairy do? | 13:59 |
| mdbooth | The code fairy would split it in 2 and get 4 +2s instead of 2 | 13:59 |
| mriedem | i think it's just bad practice, refactors shouldn't be mixed in with bug fixes | 13:59 |
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| dansmith | cdent: we're putting three inventories but in one go.. any chance the logging code is improperly counting that as three requests? | 14:00 |
| mriedem | because it's harder to review and could lead to introducing new bugs | 14:00 |
| dansmith | cdent: like if the one target calls the other targets for the list? | 14:00 |
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| cdent | this is supposed to be per request logging | 14:00 |
| dansmith | well, I know | 14:00 |
| dansmith | just brainstorming :) | 14:00 |
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| cfriesen | question for the microversion folks...if we were to change the accounting of hypervisor vcpus_used for SMT hosts when instances use the ISOLATE cpu thread policy, would that require a microversion bump since it's user-visible behaviour change? | 14:01 |
| cdent | dansmith: the logging's not right, it is only recording success | 14:01 |
| cdent | i'll figure out how to fix and send up a patch | 14:02 |
| dansmith | ah | 14:02 |
| cdent | how, the fact that it is getting three successul puts is still true | 14:02 |
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| bauwser | dansmith: so, when you say the scheduler doesn't use the CoreFilter, you mean the job ? | 14:04 |
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| dansmith | bauwser: yeah | 14:05 |
| bauwser | I'm surprised tho | 14:05 |
| bauwser | because I thought CoreFilter was a default one | 14:05 |
| dansmith | bauwser: dunno, but we override the list | 14:05 |
| bauwser | oh snap... | 14:05 |
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| dansmith | bauwser: also, I want to run mine locally and make sure that my database is getting the value from the config, because we set the allocation ratio from the config on the compute node, and then use the compute node to inform the placement request | 14:06 |
| cdent | dansmith: ah, worse than I thought, it is logging success (200) when it's not success. this will require some fairly extensive jiggery pokery. so for the time being I wouldn't rely on the logged web requests at all, just go with the logs that the resource tracker is doing | 14:06 |
| bauwser | dansmith: I need to update my devstack | 14:06 |
| bauwser | and I'll see | 14:06 |
| dansmith | cdent: lol, okay | 14:07 |
| dansmith | cdent: well, the vcpu over cap thing is from the RT anyway | 14:07 |
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| dansmith | ahh | 14:15 |
| dansmith | bauwser: I forgot about how 0.0 means 16.0 for cpu_allocation :) | 14:15 |
| dansmith | so, I'm sure we're not over 4*16 cpus | 14:16 |
| bauwser | 0.0 signals "read the config" | 14:16 |
| dansmith | which means something must be actually wrong | 14:16 |
| dansmith | bauwser: NOTE: This can be set per-compute, or if set to 0.0, the value | 14:16 |
| dansmith | set on the scheduler node(s) or compute node(s) will be used | 14:16 |
| dansmith | and defaulted to 16.0'. | 14:16 |
| dansmith | oh wait wait | 14:16 |
| dansmith | that's ram huh | 14:16 |
| bauwser | dansmith: ram ratio is 1.5 | 14:16 |
| bauwser | dansmith: but I need to understand more the issue | 14:16 |
| bauwser | dansmith: do you have some trace I could look | 14:17 |
| dansmith | bauwser: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conf/compute.py#L207 | 14:17 |
| dansmith | no trace | 14:17 |
| bauwser | because I have hard time figuring out what is the problem | 14:17 |
| rpodolyaka | jroll: hey! could you please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bug/1606496 when you have a minute? | 14:17 |
| dansmith | yeah, so 16 is for cpu | 14:17 |
| bauwser | (and running a meeting atm makes me kinda off) | 14:17 |
| dansmith | conf is hard to read | 14:17 |
| bauwser | 16 is default for cpu, 1.5 for ram and 1.0 for disk | 14:17 |
| jroll | rpodolyaka: yes, still on my list, will do it today :) | 14:18 |
| rpodolyaka | jroll: thank you! | 14:18 |
| dansmith | bauwser: right, that's what I said above | 14:18 |
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| dansmith | cdent: yeah, so anyway, allocation ratio is 16.0 for cpu in my database by default, and 4 vcpus on the gate workers, so we really shouldn't be overcommitted | 14:19 |
| dansmith | cdent: so something is up in that allocation calculation | 14:19 |
| cdent | dansmith: yeah. I've become distracted by this logging thing so haven't had a chance to look in any detail yet | 14:20 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: are you going to openstack days seattle? | 14:26 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: wasn't planning on it | 14:26 |
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| mriedem | diablo_rojo: yo | 14:29 |
| mriedem | so, | 14:29 |
| mriedem | diablo_rojo: auggy is in portland | 14:30 |
| mriedem | and is the nova mentoring person | 14:30 |
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| mriedem | diablo_rojo: so if you're looking for someone to go to seattle and talk about new contributors to nova, she'd be a good it | 14:30 |
| mriedem | *fit | 14:30 |
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| pumaranikar | alex_xu, can you please check my comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342299/ | 14:30 |
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| diablo_rojo | mriedem, works for me. | 14:31 |
| diablo_rojo | Anyone else going to be at OpenStack Days Seattle? | 14:31 |
| mriedem | clarkb: ^? | 14:31 |
| diablo_rojo | clarkb, is probably going to go. Chatted with him a bit yesterday about it. | 14:32 |
| diablo_rojo | dansmith, will you be going to OSD Seattle? | 14:32 |
| dansmith | diablo_rojo: no | 14:33 |
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| diablo_rojo | Shoot. Okay. | 14:33 |
| dansmith | cdent: also, with four instances being updated every time we refresh the resource tracker, I think we never get to update inventory again because of generation clashes | 14:33 |
| dansmith | cdent: which we could avoid if we could look at allocations | 14:33 |
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| dansmith | cdent: hmm, also seem to be getting the same generation back when we re-poll the resource provider after a generation clash | 14:37 |
| bauwser | is it me or Gerrit is in the weeds ? | 14:38 |
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| cdent | dansmith: i made a bug for the logging thing, maybe you could make bugs for these things too because I'm not really able to keep track of you. Not that I want to kill the conversation, just that I worry things might get lost. | 14:38 |
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| cdent | On the reading allocations thing, that's something I reckon we'll need jay involved in the conversation about. It's a bigger change than I would feel comfortable saying go on without more brains. | 14:39 |
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| dansmith | yeah | 14:39 |
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| bauwser | dansmith: cdent: worth trying to write a patch for updating allocations when migrating? | 14:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Move placement api request logging to middleware https://review.openstack.org/365015 | 14:42 |
| bauwser | it's on my bag, and I feel it can be a bugfix | 14:42 |
| dansmith | bauwser: well, maybe, let me figure out why this is happening first before we pile more on here | 14:43 |
| cdent | dansmith: that ^ is logging that logs 409s (and others) properly | 14:43 |
| bauwser | dansmith: sorry, Gerrit is awfully slow for me today, so I'm having hard time to look at your devstack patch | 14:44 |
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| dansmith | bauwser: devstack patch is not needed anymore | 14:48 |
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| bauwser | dansmith: I'm like on dotted support given our meeting, so sorry :( | 14:49 |
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| cdent | dansmith: have you got a cookbook for triggering the problems? I lowered my cpu allocation ratio down low and all was cool: server creates started failing. I guess I'll raise it back up and see if I can get allocations to fail? | 14:51 |
| dansmith | I'm a couple levels down the rabbit hole | 14:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova-specs: Fix blueprints and specs link in ocata template https://review.openstack.org/335312 | 14:52 |
| dansmith | but yeah, something like that | 14:52 |
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| dansmith | cdent: I'm definitely having some sort of issue, by the way | 14:53 |
| bauwser | dansmith: just to make it clear, the problem you see is because you think we don't check the allocation ratios ? | 14:53 |
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| dansmith | cdent: I'm polling the rp, getting the generation, then sending a new inventory with that generation, failing, sleeping 2 sec, repeat, and I get the same generation reported from the server | 14:54 |
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| dansmith | cdent: so I'm getting a 409 for some other reason | 14:54 |
| cdent | dansmith: do you have any inventory? | 14:54 |
| dansmith | cdent: perhaps the server refuses to let me update my inventory if it would put me into the red on capacity? | 14:54 |
| dansmith | cdent: you mean allocations? | 14:54 |
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| cdent | Is the 409 happening when you try to write allocations or inventory? | 14:55 |
| dansmith | cdent: inventory | 14:55 |
| melwitt | bauwser: I'm getting 502s from gerrit too | 14:55 |
| bauwser | melwitt: I reported to -infra | 14:56 |
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| melwitt | cool, thanks | 14:56 |
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| cdent | dansmith: in that context a 409 can happen either when somebody else did an update (for example an allocation was written) or when the inventory you are trying to write has a logic conflict (reserved greater than total or allocation_ratio blowing things wacky) | 14:56 |
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| dansmith | cdent: it's not the former because the generation hasn't changed when Irepoll | 14:57 |
| cdent | are you logging the contents of inventory? | 14:58 |
| dansmith | cdent: what if I write an inventory that would mean my allocations are over budget? | 14:58 |
| dansmith | yes | 14:58 |
| * cdent looks at the code | 14:58 | |
| dansmith | lets hangout in a few when I get off this call | 14:58 |
| bauwser | cdent: we can get 409s when we exceed capacity, right? | 14:58 |
| cdent | bauwser: yes | 14:58 |
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| dansmith | bauwser: for allocations, but that's not this | 14:58 |
| bauwser | cdent: ie. when putting an allocation that would go over the total capacity | 14:59 |
| bauwser | dansmith: ah ok | 14:59 |
| cdent | dansmith: if allocations and allocations['usage'] > inv_record.capacity: | 14:59 |
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| * bauwser is puzzled and feels frustrated by not being able to put the level of attention he should | 14:59 | |
| cdent | so yeah, if you have allocations above the new inventory things go wrong | 14:59 |
| dansmith | cdent: that's a problem I think, | 14:59 |
| dansmith | because I can cause that by changing config | 14:59 |
| dansmith | and then the compute node would be hamstrung, if we were using this for the main path | 15:00 |
| dansmith | cdent: https://hangouts.google.com/call/7iyntj4ldveepnujkafit74g7ie | 15:00 |
| cdent | dansmith: give me couple minutes to coffee up? | 15:00 |
| dansmith | okay | 15:00 |
| dansmith | will do the same | 15:00 |
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| cdent | while the kettle boils, if you change config, when you restart n-cpu to read that config, would/should the existing allocations get reset? and what should the failure mode be when config'd constraints and existing vms conflict (which is orthogonal to the placement api but a thing I'd like to know)? | 15:03 |
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| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: I bet those inventories just send 0.0, I missed that | 15:04 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: they don't | 15:04 |
| dansmith | cdent: um, what? | 15:04 |
| dansmith | cdent: lets just talk voice as I think it'll be easier | 15:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | sorry, I was only half way through scroll back, and send that by accieden | 15:05 |
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| mriedem | no instance actions recorded for a swap volume, is that a bug? | 15:17 |
| mriedem | it's an orchestrated thing with cinder volume migration/retype and async | 15:18 |
| mriedem | seems like it should have instance actions | 15:18 |
| mriedem | lascii: ^? | 15:18 |
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| mriedem | wtf is superdan? | 15:18 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: we have loads of actions missing instance actions AFAIK | 15:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: there was a spec to add them, but it didn't make the deadline | 15:21 |
| mriedem | i know we had some approved blueprints for some random things | 15:21 |
| mriedem | but i might be thinking about notifications | 15:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | possibly, the OSIC folks could work on that kind of stuff, we just didn't get the spec approved in time | 15:22 |
| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: The Gerrit service on review.openstack.org is restarting quickly to relieve resource pressure and restore normal performance | 15:22 | |
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| johnthetubaguy | will try push on next cycle (adds it too the list) | 15:22 |
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| mriedem | i'm never sure how much we're trying to fill those gaps or holding off for a new thing like tasks | 15:24 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: was this the spec? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256743/6/specs/newton/approved/expand-instance-actions-coverage.rst | 15:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, I remember the disagreement on the way forward now | 15:26 |
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| cdent | superdan, johnthetubaguy, mriedem can some of you gander at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/365015/ ? It fixes the logging on the placement api and having that as part of the current world of fixing stuff would be handy | 15:33 |
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| cdent | superdan: i'm going to base these new changes off that (so I can actually have the logs) | 15:33 |
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| superdan | cdent: is requestlog.py roughly what sdague had added yesterday? it's a little different but hard to tell how much | 15:35 |
| bauwser | cdent: FWIW, I downed the priority of the bug to High given that's not impacting our existing deployments | 15:35 |
| bauwser | we can't really see it's critical :/ | 15:35 |
| bauwser | say$ | 15:35 |
| cdent | bauwser: thanks, I wasn't savvy to the what it means, I was mostly just clicking on things...but now I know. | 15:36 |
| cdent | superdan: what it does is the same, what's different is when it happens | 15:36 |
| cdent | (and that it works) | 15:36 |
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| superdan | cdent: okay it's just structured differently | 15:36 |
| cdent | yes | 15:36 |
| bauwser | cdent: when is the logging made in the compute api ? AFAIR, that's a paste middleware, right? | 15:37 |
| * bauwser checks paste.ini | 15:37 | |
| mriedem | this isn't in paste.ini | 15:38 |
| cdent | bauwser: I don't know. I did this as a fast fix becaue the existing logs were completely wrong and we needed accurate logs to diagnose today's behaviors | 15:38 |
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| mriedem | i'll wait for CI results of the placement job to see the different | 15:39 |
| mriedem | *difference | 15:39 |
| mriedem | so today the 404s and 409s aren't showing up, but with this they should? | 15:39 |
| cdent | mriedem: yes | 15:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | I guess they error-ed before the logs code would catch it before? | 15:40 |
| mriedem | hmm, i was looking for req-cd944345-4f01-487f-8a75-764e70824302 in http://logs.openstack.org/98/364498/5/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-placement-full-ubuntu-xenial-nv/acb2458/logs/apache/placement-api.txt.gz but it's not there | 15:41 |
| mriedem | but it is here http://logs.openstack.org/98/364498/5/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-placement-full-ubuntu-xenial-nv/acb2458/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz?level=TRACE#_2016-09-01_21_43_14_607 | 15:41 |
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| bauwser | cdent: given my devstack is still not pimped for the placement API (I need a bit more time), could you please verify whether all of that isn't just due to the fact of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/365015/1/nova/api/openstack/placement/handler.py | 15:44 |
| bauwser | ? | 15:44 |
| cdent | which fact? | 15:44 |
| cdent | oh i see it now | 15:45 |
| cdent | no, it's not just that | 15:45 |
| cdent | if there is an error anywhere else in the middleware stack it won't get logged | 15:45 |
| bauwser | cdent: for the middleware stack, I agree | 15:45 |
| cdent | the logging _has_ to be on the outside of the middleware, otherwise things will not be logged | 15:45 |
| bauwser | cdent: but the bug mentions https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1619690 | 15:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1619690 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "request logging in placement api always logs success" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Chris Dent (cdent) | 15:46 |
| bauwser | cdent: which is fairly different | 15:46 |
| * auggy 's ears are burning | 15:46 | |
| cdent | yes, the reason for constant success is because some of the time resp hasn't been set | 15:46 |
| bauwser | cdent: there are 2 problems IMHO, #1 is logging with 200 everytime, #2 being that we don't log if middleware expects prblems | 15:46 |
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| cdent | and it has a default | 15:46 |
| bauwser | mmm, ok | 15:47 |
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| cdent | so by moving up the stack a bit we are always using the _real_ response | 15:47 |
| mriedem | scottda: your tempest test is for retype that will test nova swap_volume correct? | 15:47 |
| mriedem | scottda: but the tempest test only runs if we have multiple cinder backends defined in tempest.conf? | 15:47 |
| cdent | bauwser: I'm sorry I left out some details but I was rushed: I needed actually working logging! | 15:47 |
| auggy | diablo_rojo: hi! i'm in pdx, i wasn't planning on going to openstack days seattle because i actually didn't know about it | 15:47 |
| mriedem | scottda: which happens via devstack flag, which is set in a new job definition of yours right? | 15:47 |
| auggy | diablo_rojo: but now that i know about it, i am going to see about going :) | 15:48 |
| diablo_rojo | auggy, Cool :) I am fairly sure I will be there so if you do end up going, give me a heads up and we can meetup while we are both there. | 15:49 |
| auggy | diablo_rojo: will do :) | 15:49 |
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| diablo_rojo | auggy, Hopefully see you there! | 15:51 |
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| mriedem | scottda: have you setup a d-g change to test the new job and the tempest test? | 16:02 |
| mriedem | to see it passing? | 16:02 |
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| mriedem | scottda: oh i guess that's what this is for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331840/ | 16:04 |
| superdan | mriedem: so in case you didn't follow, we've definitely got some things we need to fix server and client side on the placement stuff | 16:05 |
| superdan | mriedem: one of them is a slight conceptual change so we probably want to wait to merge it until jay can look and bless it | 16:05 |
| superdan | but we're going to get going on it and try to have it ready for next week | 16:05 |
| mriedem | ok, yeah i haven't been following, except i saw the logging change and was waiting to see the results of that | 16:06 |
| mriedem | i'm going to try and check out for the weekend in about an hour | 16:07 |
| superdan | okay | 16:07 |
| superdan | I'm going to fade early myself | 16:07 |
| bauwser | FWIW, I'm deploying a placement-api pimped devstack | 16:07 |
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| bauwser | so, I could test a few bits | 16:07 |
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| bauwser | superdan: glad you spotted that bug before we go further | 16:08 |
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| superdan | bauwser: cool and yeah :) | 16:08 |
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| bauwser | superdan: I used the word "source of truth" when I was talking of compute node, and I know it's a bit confusing | 16:09 |
| auggy | superdan: bauwser if there's anything i can help out with on the placement stuff, let me know, i've just been reading through what's happening and wrapping my head around it | 16:09 |
| auggy | apparantly i'm pretty good at mox tests now | 16:09 |
| superdan | auggy: you and me both | 16:09 |
| bauwser | superdan: but what I wanted to express is that we need somehow to trust the compute node for providing the right view of what it runs | 16:10 |
| superdan | bauwser: yeah and I'm not sure that's the right thing to do | 16:10 |
| bauwser | I know | 16:11 |
| superdan | bauwser: but, we can trust anyone that puts a new allocation that isn't a change, IMHO, which is all we need | 16:11 |
| mriedem | auggy: did you ever get a change pushed up to gitignore etc/nova/policy.yaml.merged? | 16:11 |
| auggy | mriedem: yes i pushed that change | 16:11 |
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| mriedem | link? | 16:11 |
| auggy | mriedem: i'll find the magic link | 16:11 |
| bauwser | superdan: I know that you have concerns with the compute node being the one which should get the right view of the world | 16:11 |
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| auggy | mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/363768/ | 16:12 |
| scottda | mriedem: Yes to all of the above. And MattTR suggested adding that test to tempest experimental job as well. | 16:12 |
| auggy | mriedem: i think i pinged you after i pushed it but with all the crazy happening i reckon it was missed ;) | 16:12 |
| auggy | aw sfinucan +1'ed it :) | 16:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: DNM: test swap-volume fix https://review.openstack.org/365050 | 16:13 |
| mriedem | scottda: you mean add the gate-tempest-dsvm-lvm-multibackend-nv job to tempest experimental right? | 16:14 |
| sfinucan | auggy: thank my nova review dash ;) | 16:14 |
| mriedem | scottda: that's a good idea | 16:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Ludovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Update available resources before confirm stage https://review.openstack.org/327356 | 16:14 |
| scottda | mriedem: yes | 16:14 |
| auggy | sfinucan: yeah i need to be better about reviews, they just take me a long time and sometimes they merge before i'm done getting through it | 16:14 |
| mriedem | scottda: ok that patch ^ above is also using it to test a nova fix for swap volume | 16:15 |
| mriedem | scottda: the bug being you can swap from vol A to B but can't swap back from B to A | 16:15 |
| mriedem | nova blows up | 16:15 |
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| Swami | mriedem: Matt could you please review this nova-neutron patch. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275073/40 | 16:19 |
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| mriedem | i can only review that change once per quarter | 16:20 |
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| Swami | mriedem: no kidding | 16:21 |
| mriedem | Swami: will try to get it in next week | 16:21 |
| mriedem | i'm quickly running out of steam to do anything more this week | 16:21 |
| Swami | mriedem: thanks | 16:21 |
| Swami | mriedem: no worries. | 16:21 |
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| bauwser | hurrah, my devstack works | 16:25 |
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| auggy | mriedem: also i had gotten this one done but hadn't checked the gate status and apparantly i can't yaml haha https://review.openstack.org/#/c/363803/ | 16:28 |
| auggy | anyways that's fixed and i'm just seeing what these two failures are about, i thought it was good to go | 16:29 |
| mriedem | looks like infra | 16:29 |
| mriedem | the job aborted halfway through | 16:29 |
| mriedem | just recheck it | 16:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Brent Eagles proposed openstack/nova: Add bigswitch command to compute rootwrap filters https://review.openstack.org/358024 | 16:31 |
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| superdan | cdent: um, I think the api exposes and accepts inventories in different formats | 16:33 |
| cdent | superdan say what? | 16:33 |
| superdan | hang on | 16:33 |
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| superdan | well, I can't provide you a link because the gabbits aren't exhaustive | 16:34 |
| auggy | mriedem: yeah that's what it was looking like to me too, rechecking away | 16:34 |
| superdan | cdent: however, when I put a list of inventories, the resource_provider_generation is a toplevel thing, | 16:35 |
| superdan | cdent: however in the response it looks like it is in each inventory by resource class | 16:35 |
| superdan | cdent: which means if I have no inventories yet, I don't know what the generation is unless I look at the resource provider itself | 16:35 |
| cdent | superdan: there isn't get put symmetry | 16:35 |
| superdan | cdent: and it means that the value is repeated over and over for the same resource provider once for each inventory record | 16:36 |
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| superdan | cdent: why not? isn't that unrestful? | 16:36 |
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| clarkb | mriedem: auggy if you pull up the ansible log for that job it lost ssh connectivity to the host. Jeblair was looking into that and root cause seems to be Internets so we need to work on making things retry better | 16:36 |
| cdent | superdan: when I tried to make the placement api restful, jay got annoyed... | 16:36 |
| superdan | ffs | 16:36 |
| cdent | the version of the api that currently exists is the third design | 16:36 |
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| auggy | clarkb: ah cool, yeah that's what i was poking around to see | 16:36 |
| armax | mriedem: ping | 16:37 |
| cdent | there was jay's first one which i then made restful, which he then switched to omething else | 16:37 |
| cdent | at which point I gave up fighting | 16:37 |
| superdan | I'm not really interested in who is at fault I just want to make this work | 16:37 |
| superdan | so whatever, I guess I will just do three http calls each time | 16:37 |
| cdent | I'm merely trying to provide context and history | 16:37 |
| auggy | clarkb: i sometimes wonder about your list of highlighted words... haha you seem to magically appear right when you are able to offer some great insight | 16:37 |
| cdent | three? | 16:37 |
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| clarkb | auggy: I like to investigate when someone says "probably infra just recheck" :) | 16:38 |
| superdan | cdent: yes, one to reliably get the current generation, one to get the current inventory and one to put the new inventory (if needed) .. so two always, three if there is an update | 16:38 |
| mriedem | and i was right :) | 16:38 |
| mriedem | armax: pong | 16:38 |
| clarkb | mriedem: yup | 16:38 |
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| jeblair | auggy: i just follow clarkb around since he has the highlight game covered, apparently | 16:39 |
| armax | mriedem: we got stung by the os-vif bug again here: http://logs.openstack.org/14/365014/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-linuxbridge/5c3eecd/ | 16:39 |
| auggy | jeblair: ha | 16:39 |
| armax | mriedem: http://logs.openstack.org/14/365014/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-linuxbridge/5c3eecd/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz?level=TRACE#_2016-09-02_15_04_53_014 | 16:39 |
| armax | mriedem: I had an E-R query for this | 16:39 |
| mriedem | armax: is that because the fix isn't released? | 16:39 |
| armax | mriedem: yeah I think so | 16:39 |
| armax | but I am curious as to why E-R didn’t pick it up | 16:40 |
| cdent | superdan: don't you have a local reference to the resource provider that you can keep updated as you make successful changes, and just revamp that when you get a fail? | 16:40 |
| cdent | sorry I used the word "just" that's a no no | 16:40 |
| armax | mriedem: looking closer the query doesn’t seem to match | 16:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Tuan Luong-Anh proposed openstack/nova: Python 3.x compatibility modules urllib https://review.openstack.org/361964 | 16:40 |
| superdan | cdent: yeah, but it's just getting kinda messy to keep stabbing things into the local cache | 16:40 |
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| cdent | i had assumed that one was already there | 16:41 |
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| mriedem | armax: is the LB fix in os-vif on master released at all? | 16:41 |
| armax | mriedem: yes | 16:41 |
| armax | ah | 16:41 |
| armax | no | 16:41 |
| armax | I don’t think so | 16:41 |
| mriedem | armax: the stable/newton is approved at least now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/363975/ | 16:41 |
| armax | mriedem: ack | 16:41 |
| armax | mriedem: question I had for you | 16:41 |
| armax | was | 16:41 |
| mriedem | armax: and yes https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361516/ isn't released | 16:42 |
| mriedem | so that's why you're still failing | 16:42 |
| armax | on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361458/ | 16:42 |
| mriedem | we could do a patch release....to get u-c updated | 16:42 |
| armax | mriedem: shall I replace the InterfaceAttachFailed error with ‘can't create bridge with the same name’ | 16:42 |
| armax | mriedem: because for whatever reason this last failure seems to be induced by the same error, but it shows up differently | 16:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Tuan Luong-Anh proposed openstack/nova: Python 3.x compatibility modules urllib https://review.openstack.org/361964 | 16:44 |
| mriedem | armax: you can do an OR with the messages | 16:44 |
| mriedem | to hit both | 16:44 |
| armax | mriedem: ack | 16:44 |
| armax | mriedem: tweak coming right up | 16:44 |
| mriedem | (message:"InterfaceAttachFailed: Failed to attach network adapter device to" OR message:"can't create bridge with the same name") AND tags:screen-n-cpu.txt | 16:45 |
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| mriedem | oh different file | 16:46 |
| mriedem | oh nvm | 16:46 |
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| armax | mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/365064/ | 16:47 |
| armax | mriedem: what do you mean differnt file? | 16:48 |
| mriedem | ignore | 16:48 |
| mriedem | i thought one was checking n-cpu and the other n-net | 16:48 |
| mriedem | but they are both messages in n-cpu | 16:48 |
| mriedem | i get 24 hits in logstash for (message:"InterfaceAttachFailed: Failed to attach network adapter device to" OR message:"can't create bridge with the same name") AND tags:screen-n-cpu.txt over 7 days | 16:49 |
| mriedem | check and gate | 16:49 |
| mriedem | 1. gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-linuxbridge 18 2. gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial 3 3. gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-multinode-full | 16:49 |
| mriedem | they aren't all LB jobs | 16:49 |
| armax | mriedem: ack | 16:49 |
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| cdent | superdan: I've got a working version of "don't write a same allocation to the database" but I've got a question: | 17:07 |
| cdent | do you need a different response code between "we wrote it" and "it's the same so we didn't write it"? | 17:07 |
| figleaf | cdent: My take on that is that the client should never care about the difference | 17:09 |
| cdent | figleaf: yeah, in the general case, but in this case we've been having some weird... | 17:10 |
| figleaf | cdent: and what if you send 4 allocations, and 1 is new? Or 2? Or all 4? DO those all get different codes? | 17:10 |
| cdent | figleaf: the context on this is https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1619723 | 17:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1619723 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "in placement api an allocation reporter sometimes needs to be able to report an allocation even if it violates capacity constraints" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Chris Dent (cdent) | 17:11 |
| figleaf | cdent: I would log that differently, but remember that there is no GET for allocations | 17:11 |
| figleaf | cdent: so sending different codes leaks information | 17:11 |
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| cdent | I personally don't want to send a different code, but if superdan _needs_ it, then we need to talk about how to deal with that | 17:12 |
| figleaf | cdent: huh, so we need both a PUT and a PUT_I_REALLY_MEAN_IT methods | 17:12 |
| superdan | cdent: just a sec sorry | 17:13 |
| cdent | figleaf: yeah, sort of. | 17:13 |
| figleaf | cdent: I'll let you two fight it out. Got to step out for a few minutes | 17:13 |
| cdent | enjoy | 17:13 |
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| superdan | cdent: I don't think I need to know from the client side, no, I just need to know if what you have is what I have | 17:15 |
| cdent | superdan: cool, i'll push what I've got up now (both the inventory and allocation stuff) and we can tweak it as required. and probably add some tests | 17:16 |
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| superdan | okay | 17:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: [placement] Allow inventory to violate allocations https://review.openstack.org/365068 | 17:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: [placement] don't write existing equivalent allocations https://review.openstack.org/365069 | 17:18 |
| cdent | superdan: there go | 17:18 |
| cdent | that's above the logging adjustments | 17:18 |
| superdan | okay I think I just unfucked my local attempts to be graceful about inventories | 17:21 |
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| cdent | unfuckery is a positive | 17:28 |
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| mriedem | armax: how critical is it to get os-vif released with that LB fix? | 17:29 |
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| mriedem | like do i need to make a case to get a release exception with the release team before RC1? | 17:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: More conservative inventory updates https://review.openstack.org/365073 | 17:30 |
| superdan | cdent: please review unfuckery ^ .. no unit test fixes for the changes yet | 17:30 |
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| mriedem | superdan: is that like what jaypipes had in his original one? | 17:32 |
| mriedem | i remember his was a bit more elaborate on the client side checking | 17:32 |
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| superdan | mriedem: yeah, and this was my plan all along to follow up | 17:34 |
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| cdent | superdan: reading that it looks good, will make it run now | 17:39 |
| openstackgerrit | viswesuwara nathan proposed openstack/nova: fixed flavor image listing if project_id is None https://review.openstack.org/363530 | 17:40 |
| superdan | mriedem_afk: yeah sadly the server GET and PUT are different, so the process of knowing if we need to update them is... ugly | 17:42 |
| superdan | it's almost 11 and I haven't had a morsel to eat, so ... gotta do that | 17:42 |
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| cdent | superdan: we should probably talk about changing that (GET and PUT, but also your food) next week | 17:42 |
| cdent | it might be worth it | 17:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Brown proposed openstack/nova: Remove bandit.yaml in favor of defaults https://review.openstack.org/278544 | 17:43 |
| cdent | allocations are being properly deleted when a server goes to ERROR | 17:44 |
| superdan | cdent: yeah, we should talk to sean about it | 17:45 |
| cdent | I think, next time we do something like this, that we should work in the other direction when both speccing and building. this time we worked database->api->things that will use it | 17:46 |
| superdan | yeah, all the while saying we cared most that the api was good | 17:46 |
| superdan | and alas... | 17:47 |
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| cdent | i don't think we ever had a consistent and complete picture of ... I'm not even sure what word to use | 17:47 |
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| cdent | oh well, it mostly works :) | 17:47 |
| superdan | yeah | 17:47 |
| superdan | I selfishly refused to review the api bits of placement out of spite, so I can't complain too much | 17:48 |
| superdan | (not really spite, just being dramatic) | 17:48 |
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| cdent | it supports microversions, there's even a gist for how it will support microversion, we can change it when we need to | 17:49 |
| superdan | I think we started our first microversion clock when we released it the first time, to perhaps we have a few days to course correct | 17:50 |
| lascii | mriedem_afk: sorry, crazy day and I haven't been around my computer much. But yes we should have instance actions for swap volumes, and other things that are missing. Not worth waiting for tasks on doing that bit | 17:50 |
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| cdent | I think I'm done for the day. If there's stuff that I can do email me, or assign a bug to me, or put something on a review, or whatever. | 17:53 |
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| oomichi | mriedem_afk: about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360941/1//COMMIT_MSG | 17:56 |
| oomichi | mriedem_afk: I guess 404 is preferable I guess | 17:56 |
| oomichi | mriedem_afk: but 400 is valid on this case based on https://github.com/openstack/api-wg/blob/master/guidelines/http.rst#failure-code-clarifications | 17:57 |
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| armax | mriedem_afk: it’s biting all of us in the gate | 18:12 |
| armax | mriedem_afk: the frequency is not too high so far but we’re in feature freeze | 18:12 |
| armax | mriedem_afk: it’s not critical for prod deployments where one doesn’t run everything on a single node | 18:13 |
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| armax | mriedem_afk: I am somewhat ambivalent if we can put up with the occasional gate reset | 18:13 |
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| armax | mriedem_afk: until we can release in Ocata | 18:14 |
| armax | kevinbenton: do you concur? ^ | 18:14 |
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| jroll | rpodolyaka: +1'd both, thanks for those :) | 18:41 |
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| rpodolyaka | jroll: thanks! | 18:43 |
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| cdent | superdan: the icky format for get inventories is a bug: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/newton/approved/generic-resource-pools.html#get-resource-providers-uuid-inventories | 18:43 |
| superdan | cdent: ah, yep | 18:43 |
| superdan | good. | 18:43 |
| superdan | :) | 18:43 |
| cdent | yeah | 18:43 |
| cdent | i'll make the bug and fix it sometime soon | 18:44 |
| superdan | it's still different | 18:44 |
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| superdan | but at least the generation is one per request | 18:44 |
| superdan | the post takes a list of dicts with the key inside | 18:44 |
| superdan | the get still returns a dict indexed by type | 18:44 |
| superdan | but closer is better | 18:44 |
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| cdent | superdan: when I fix this I'll tune the resource tracker too | 18:48 |
| superdan | cdent: okay.. looks like I need to fix some pep8 fails in your patches below | 18:48 |
| superdan | you said you were done for the week, but .. here you are... anything pending/ | 18:48 |
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| cdent | yeah, I didn't do any of those kind of tests because I figured you want to play | 18:48 |
| superdan | yep, it's fine | 18:49 |
| cdent | yeah, I didn't mean to come back but my brain was tickling me that something wasn't right | 18:49 |
| cdent | so I went looking.. | 18:49 |
| superdan | okay | 18:49 |
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| cdent | I don't plan to do anything tonight | 18:49 |
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| bauwser | cdent: so, about what we discussed today, do you have a change I could look at ? | 18:53 |
| bauwser | cdent: or could I help you by implementing it ? | 18:54 |
| cdent | bauwser: which thing? | 18:54 |
| superdan | bauwser: gerrit is down anyway right? | 18:54 |
| superdan | well, it's up now, but.. | 18:54 |
| bauwser | cdent: the fact that we should just check if the allocation is existing and not check the inventory then | 18:55 |
| superdan | yeah that is done | 18:55 |
| bauwser | okay | 18:55 |
| bauwser | I haven't seen the gerrit maintenance, sorry | 18:55 |
| superdan | bauwser: here and down: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/365073/ | 18:55 |
| superdan | bauwser: I feel like we should wait for jay to approve these since they are tweaks to the original plan | 18:56 |
| superdan | but good to vet them in the meantime of course | 18:56 |
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| bauwser | fair point | 18:57 |
| superdan | well, not my patch but the ones from cdent below | 18:57 |
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| bauwser | yup | 18:58 |
| superdan | bauwser: the logging one at the bottom would be good to get in if you want to look at that and are itching to do something :D | 18:58 |
| bauwser | I already reviewed it | 18:58 |
| superdan | oh cool | 18:58 |
| superdan | :) | 18:58 |
| bauwser | but yeah | 18:58 |
| superdan | FYI monday is a US holiday if you don't know | 18:59 |
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| bauwser | superdan: WAT ? you have some holiday that french don't ? I'm pissed off | 19:02 |
| superdan | haha | 19:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: [placement] Allow inventory to violate allocations https://review.openstack.org/365068 | 19:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: [placement] don't write existing equivalent allocations https://review.openstack.org/365069 | 19:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Move placement api request logging to middleware https://review.openstack.org/365015 | 19:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: More conservative inventory updates https://review.openstack.org/365073 | 19:03 |
| superdan | pep8 fixes and tests for my changes ^ | 19:04 |
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| mriedem_afk | oomichi: i think you missed my point | 19:15 |
| mriedem_afk | oomichi i wanted the DocImpact tag removed from the commit message | 19:16 |
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| mriedem_afk | ah i see it has been in the latest version | 19:16 |
| openstackgerrit | MJWurtz proposed openstack/nova: Refresh info_cache after deleting floating IP https://review.openstack.org/357494 | 19:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | MJWurtz proposed openstack/nova: Refresh info_cache after deleting floating IP https://review.openstack.org/357494 | 19:45 |
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| mriedem | scottda: it doesn't seem that your retype test actually swaps the volume attachment on the server | 19:57 |
| scottda | hmmm | 19:58 |
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| scottda | mriedem: I'll have a look in a little while. | 20:00 |
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| mriedem | if retype doesn't create a new volume and swap to that, then i wouldn't expect it to call swap volume | 20:03 |
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| oomichi | mriedem: Yeah, I see. and I just did catch the last part of your comment related to HTTP 400. | 20:03 |
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| cjvolzka | I see http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/newton/approved/cells-instance-groups-api-db.html has been marked complete. The documentation says methods from db/sqalchemy/api.py would be mirrored to objects/instance_group.py. I don't see a replacement for instance_group_member_delete(). Is that still coming or was it dropped? | 20:09 |
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| melwitt | cjvolzka: the rest api doesn't allow delete of group members and the function instance_group_member_delete isn't called anywhere presently (it was never exposed by the instance group object interface) | 20:17 |
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| mriedem | yeah you can't add or remove instance group members after the group is created right now | 20:21 |
| mriedem | there was a spec at one point, it gets complicated | 20:21 |
| cjvolzka | melwitt: It was a function that we happened to use internally. Was there already discussion about intentionally not including this any longer or was it just not added since there wasn't community use for it? In short I'm asking if it'd be worth while propose adding it back or has that already been decided. | 20:22 |
| mriedem | cjvolzka: see https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:jmulsow%2540us.ibm.com+status:abandoned | 20:23 |
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| melwitt | cjvolzka: it wasn't discussed. the work was done to make instance group object functions work with both dbs and provide the migration and the delete members wasn't part of that since the object currently doesn't delete members as it is | 20:27 |
| lascii | cjvolzka: I don't think there will be much support for adding it back if it's not exposed to a public interface | 20:28 |
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| mriedem | we must fix this bug by RC1 | 20:31 |
| mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1618707 | 20:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1618707 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "add comment" [Undecided,Invalid] - Assigned to wanghongtaozz (wanghongtaozz) | 20:31 |
| melwitt | lol | 20:32 |
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| harlowja_ | qq guys, mriedem melwitt (or others), wondering if a question we are debating on internally u guys can help me with | 20:35 |
| harlowja_ | the question of notification messages out from nova (for say a instance) | 20:35 |
| harlowja_ | is the ordering of the state changes guaranteed | 20:35 |
| harlowja_ | (in cells this gets weird, but just let's exclude that for now) | 20:35 |
| mriedem | is the ordering of the state changes gauranteed..... | 20:35 |
| mriedem | ? | 20:35 |
| harlowja_ | for the same instance | 20:35 |
| harlowja_ | (at least) | 20:36 |
| mriedem | have an example? | 20:36 |
| harlowja_ | ya, though it involves cells, but its a ok example | 20:36 |
| mriedem | gauranteed, i'd say no | 20:36 |
| mriedem | since we have nothing testing that server actions go through a specific state transition | 20:36 |
| mriedem | since we don't have a specific state machine | 20:36 |
| harlowja_ | right, we have a instance.stop that we've seen come in before a instance.start (not often) | 20:36 |
| mriedem | tdurakov is working on something like that, but more for migratoins | 20:36 |
| harlowja_ | cells v1 i think is part of the bad part | 20:36 |
| harlowja_ | bad == cause | 20:37 |
| mriedem | is it a reboot operation? | 20:37 |
| harlowja_ | unsure | 20:37 |
| mriedem | if it's reboot, then that might make more sense | 20:37 |
| harlowja_ | kk, jist of the thing is that i guess a specific state machine would help here (could at least be used to know the right order) | 20:37 |
| mriedem | we talked a little bit about something like this at the newton midcycle, tdurakov was tasked with getting some of the state transitions for migrations down on paper as a start | 20:38 |
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| mriedem | and then start working on a model, possibly based on what ironic is already doing | 20:38 |
| harlowja_ | gotcha | 20:40 |
| melwitt | state changes race in cells v1 because instance.save() causes a sync down to the compute cell. so those race with other actions going from parent to child cell. example https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1466696 | 20:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1466696 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Cells: Race between instance 'unlock' and 'stop' can cause 'stop' to fail" [Low,Won't fix] | 20:41 |
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| harlowja_ | ya the thing that we are theorizing is that we have a consumer on the child-cell that puts things into kafka and top-level consumer that also writes into kafka, the order sometimes gets busted in kafka (compounded by cells v1 i think) | 20:42 |
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| harlowja_ | (not always gets busted) | 20:44 |
| harlowja_ | just sometimes | 20:44 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: fyi just saw this in bug triage https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1617299 | 20:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1617299 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Share based Nova Live Migration eratically fails" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Tom Patzig (tom-patzig) | 20:45 |
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| melwitt | cells v1 would definitely do that sometimes when actions are done in rapid succession. I wouldn't expect it for non-cells but like mriedem it's really not guaranteed in any way as there's nothing formal about state transitions yet | 20:47 |
| harlowja_ | melwitt right, think we've seen that :) | 20:47 |
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| harlowja_ | (the bug u mentioned) | 20:47 |
| harlowja_ | btw how are u! | 20:47 |
| harlowja_ | lol | 20:47 |
| mriedem | you former yahoo! creeps need to tell those 2 that spam the operators list about no longer being at yahoo to knock it off | 20:48 |
| harlowja_ | ya, i told | 20:48 |
| mriedem | excellent | 20:48 |
| harlowja_ | mriedem the message has been told | 20:48 |
| harlowja_ | though i think its a larger issue with yahoo-inc email setup/server? | 20:48 |
| harlowja_ | its not the first time this happens | 20:48 |
| mriedem | tpatzig_: on https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1617299 can you put a retry backoff decorator in the code that checks for the test file on the other host during migration? | 20:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1617299 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Share based Nova Live Migration eratically fails" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Tom Patzig (tom-patzig) | 20:48 |
| harlowja_ | there bouncing 'rule' needs adjustment :-P | 20:48 |
| harlowja_ | stop replying to all when things bounce, lol | 20:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ludovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: PCI: Update MAC address for NICs PF passthrough devices https://review.openstack.org/361438 | 20:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: improve logging for shared storage check https://review.openstack.org/365140 | 21:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: nfs fix for xenial images https://review.openstack.org/329466 | 21:07 |
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| mriedem | haleyb: unit tests are failing on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313070/ | 21:16 |
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| haleyb | mriedem: yes, i just haven't had time to fix it, wil try next week. With os-vif this isn't as important | 21:17 |
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| doffm | bauzas: So rlrossit has been doing some scheduler performance work... | 21:27 |
| doffm | rlrossit: Want to take it away? | 21:27 |
| rlrossit | let me get some pastes ready | 21:28 |
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| rlrossit | bauzas: so I'm doing some performance testing on the scheduler, and I'm following the select_destinations notification to see how long it takes | 21:30 |
| rlrossit | when I have debug logging turned on, select_destinations takes anywhere from 1-18 seconds, without debug logging, it takes 1-3 seconds | 21:30 |
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| rlrossit | this is in an environment where I have 400 faked compute nodes | 21:31 |
| rlrossit | you can see the numbers here: http://paste.openstack.org/show/566153/ | 21:31 |
| rlrossit | we determined that https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/host_manager.py#L162-L178 is the main culprit | 21:31 |
| rlrossit | because it's logging to debug 4 times for every host on every schedule when using the filter_scheduler | 21:31 |
| rlrossit | so for me, that's 1600 debug log messages every time we run get_all_host_states() | 21:32 |
| melwitt | debug logging isn't supposed to be turned on generally, but I get your point | 21:34 |
| melwitt | bauzas might not be around right now, it's 23:34 in his time zone | 21:34 |
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| rlrossit | I blame doffm | 21:34 |
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| mriedem | rlrossit: talk to cfriesen | 21:36 |
| mriedem | he's looked at a lot of the logging stuff in the scheduler | 21:36 |
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| melwitt | yeah, he's been working on a thing to only emit INFO log messages upon failure, or something similar. to avoid needing debug turned on to know anything | 21:38 |
| doffm | Turning on debug right now makes the scheduler very very slow. | 21:38 |
| melwitt | upon scheduling failure | 21:38 |
| melwitt | yeah, that's known and no one should run with debug enabled unless they're actively troubleshooting a problem | 21:39 |
| mriedem | doffm: rlrossit: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/newton/approved/improve-sched-logging.html | 21:39 |
| mriedem | work on that for ocata | 21:39 |
| doffm | Sounds good. | 21:40 |
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| auggy | i feel like there's a "taco trucks on every corner" pun to be made here but I'm struggling | 22:03 |
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| oomichi | mriedem: do we have a chance to fix api-site in Newton? or should we wait for ocata now? | 22:10 |
| oomichi | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/api-ref-in-rst | 22:10 |
| oomichi | I am not sure that should be considered as high-prio *feature* or just fixing | 22:11 |
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