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openstackgerritMiguel Lavalle proposed openstack/nova: Add Routed Networks support to Neutron API  https://review.openstack.org/33738700:23
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openstackgerritJinquan Ni proposed openstack/nova: libvirt:code flow problem in wait_for_job  https://review.openstack.org/32075000:50
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openstackgerritGermán Robles proposed openstack/nova: This commit Closes-Bug: 1598659 fix to pass IPv6 test  https://review.openstack.org/33697801:03
openstackbug 1598659 in OpenStack Compute (nova) ""Nova-api crash when you configure a hostname instead of ip in nova.conf"" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1598659 - Assigned to Germán Robles (grobles89)01:03
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openstackgerrityuyafei proposed openstack/nova: Add __ne__ built-in function  https://review.openstack.org/33739401:25
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openstackgerritTina Kevin proposed openstack/nova: Check block job info before abort it during _live_snapshot and _swap_volume  https://review.openstack.org/33722601:51
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openstackgerritGermán Robles proposed openstack/nova: This commit Closes-Bug: 1598659 fix to pass IPv6 test recheck  https://review.openstack.org/33697802:16
openstackbug 1598659 in OpenStack Compute (nova) ""Nova-api crash when you configure a hostname instead of ip in nova.conf"" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1598659 - Assigned to Germán Robles (grobles89)02:16
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openstackgerrityuyafei proposed openstack/nova: Add __ne__ built-in function  https://review.openstack.org/33739402:41
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openstackgerritTina Kevin proposed openstack/nova: Check block job info before abort it during _live_snapshot and _swap_volume  https://review.openstack.org/33722602:45
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Add checks for volume status when rebuilding  https://review.openstack.org/21756702:56
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openstackgerritTina Kevin proposed openstack/nova: Check block job info before abort it  https://review.openstack.org/33722603:00
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: Parameter verification for os-simple-tenant-usage.inc  https://review.openstack.org/33365404:30
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: Example verification for os-simple-tenant-usage.inc  https://review.openstack.org/33712504:33
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openstackgerritEric Brown proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Enforce minimum vCenter version of 5.5  https://review.openstack.org/25366606:15
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kaisersmarkus_z: oops, just now saw you contacted regarding that bug days ago, sry for missing that!06:17
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kaisersmarkus_z:                           ^ *me06:18
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openstackgerritBéla Vancsics proposed openstack/nova: Transform instance.shelve notifications  https://review.openstack.org/33269606:30
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openstackgerrityuyafei proposed openstack/nova: Remove white space between print and ()  https://review.openstack.org/33745906:45
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openstackgerrityuyafei proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Remove white space between print and ()  https://review.openstack.org/33746806:54
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openstackgerritJohn Hua proposed openstack/nova: POC: WIP: XenAPI: device tagging  https://review.openstack.org/33378106:55
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openstackgerritMasaki Matsushita proposed openstack/nova: Use URIOpt  https://review.openstack.org/33747707:05
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openstackgerritAlexandre Levine proposed openstack/nova: POC Imagebackend complete refactoring  https://review.openstack.org/33692107:31
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/33199607:32
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openstackgerritMasaki Matsushita proposed openstack/nova: Use URIOpt  https://review.openstack.org/33747707:42
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bauzasgood morning Nova07:45
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openstackgerritKevin Zhao proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Modify the interface address object assignment  https://review.openstack.org/33678107:50
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markus_znova bugs team meeting in #openstack-meeting-408:00
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openstackgerritzhongshengping proposed openstack/nova: Fix release note format typo  https://review.openstack.org/33752608:07
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Testing latest u-c  https://review.openstack.org/30334508:10
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openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Remove duplicated code blocks in format_dom  https://review.openstack.org/23214508:30
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openstackgerritoctopuszhang proposed openstack/nova: Allow irrelevant,self-defined specs in ComputeCapacityFilter  https://review.openstack.org/31730608:32
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openstackgerritKevin Zhao proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Modify the interface address object assignment  https://review.openstack.org/33678108:34
paul-carlton2mnestratov, hi re you comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310505 I am about the fire up a Virtuozzo based devstack using vmware workstation to investigate how Virtuozzo works with libvirt storgate pools08:39
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paul-carlton2what brand of linux is the  Virtuozzo iso based on (vmware is asking for a clue, not sure it is critical but thought I'd ask if you are around08:40
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openstackgerritZhihai Song proposed openstack/nova: Add volume status check when deleting instances  https://review.openstack.org/26033908:49
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openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Modify VM's updated_at field on volume actions  https://review.openstack.org/24717608:51
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openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Remove duplicate policy test  https://review.openstack.org/27757508:59
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openstackgerritBéla Vancsics proposed openstack/nova: Transform instance.shelve notifications  https://review.openstack.org/33269609:03
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lxslijohnthetubaguy: morning, how's my reno looking please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33723509:11
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openstackgerritSergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Added better error messages during (un)pinning CPUs  https://review.openstack.org/30565409:13
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openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: List instances for secgroup without joining on rules  https://review.openstack.org/28854809:15
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bauzaslxsli: why are you renaming the old reno file N09:16
bauzaslxsli: you can just update it09:16
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lxsliI could do but that'd be confusing when we create the O one09:17
bauzaslxsli: please don't09:18
lxslijohnthetubaguy: what do you think?09:18
bauzaslxsli: tbc, reno uses the git repo09:19
bauzaslxsli: which means that adding a file is related to a git patch09:19
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bauzasin case you're adding a new patch for Ocata with a new note, then the new file wouldn't need to have "ocata" for knowing which change was related09:20
bauzaslxsli: ^09:20
bauzaslxsli: just using git blame is good09:20
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lxsliso you want to end up in P with 3 files all using the same slug? and to have to use git blame to figure out which one is for P?09:21
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bauzaslxsli: you can help the name for sure, but I don't like to add the release name09:24
lxsli"help the name"?09:24
bauzaslxsli: because for example, you can backport a change including a note09:24
bauzaslxsli: you can help people understanding which change is related to a reno note by making the name more explicit, for sure09:25
gabor_antalHey, can someone help us with a review on our patch? We are confused if we have finished a bug, or are there anything which we should do? Here's the link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322341/09:25
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lxsliI was going to have separate renos for each patch but johnthetubaguy said yesterday he wanted one per release09:25
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bauzaslxsli: one per release is okay to me09:26
bauzaslxsli: only given we don't explicitely mention the release name09:26
bauzaslxsli: tbc, here is the thing09:26
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bauzaslxsli: ideally, you would add the reno file within the change, rgiht?09:26
lxsliYep09:27
bauzaslxsli: okay, so then it would be one file per change09:27
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bauzasof course, when you have a series, just add one file for the whole series09:27
lxslibut that's no longer one per release, that's one per change...09:28
bauzaslxsli: I need to review your series, tbh09:28
bauzaslxsli: unless I'm missing something09:28
lxsliwhich would be easier in many ways since modifying one note serialises mutable config patches09:28
lxslibut it's not what johnthetubaguy wanted so ^^09:28
bauzasokay, so let's wait johnthetubaguy, no problem :)09:29
johnthetubaguyso ideally, its updated in each patch09:29
lxsliThere's also an issue of how much explanatory text to include in each note, if we have multiple notes09:29
johnthetubaguyor with some depends-on, etc09:29
johnthetubaguyyeah, I was thinking, from the operator, its nice to read a single note for the whole release09:29
johnthetubaguynow that could be nonsense, its just my preference09:30
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: we can add some prelude, if you like09:30
bauzasin general, I tend to avoid adding a prelude section before we cut the release09:30
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bauzasbut that's something we could exceptionnally do for summarizing what's in the release09:30
bauzasor09:30
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bauzaswe could have one slug09:31
bauzasand then, each change would amend that slug09:31
bauzasboth are okay to me09:31
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bauzasI just wanted to express that I don't generally like to have reno files self-contained by a release (because of how reno works)09:32
bauzaslike for example, we have the mitaka relnotes given in the unreleased page09:32
lxslimaybe we could have mutable-config for this release, containing all mutable options + explanatory text, then switch to one note per change for future releases?09:32
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bauzaslxsli: it's a textfile, you can do whatever you want :)09:33
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lxsliI'm asking if that's an acceptable compromise to both of you09:33
bauzaslxsli: here, you're adding 2 opt names09:33
bauzassec, verifying something with reno09:33
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bauzaslxsli: okay, here is what I wanted to show you09:35
bauzashttp://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/nova/unreleased.html09:35
bauzaslxsli: in that page (that's scanning all the git repo with tags newer that the older branch), we're including 3 tags09:36
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bauzaslxsli: 13.0.0.0 (mitaka) (because that tag was merged to the master branch post the release), 14.0.0.0b1 (because we tagged n-1), and 14.0.0.0b-sth (because we use pbr)09:37
bauzaslxsli: say you have one file and you amend it09:37
bauzaslxsli: you would then have all the content squashed into one single item for the current tag it refers to09:38
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bauzaslxsli: and then, for the next tag (either the new release, or the next milestone) you would only get the diff09:38
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lxsliI don't mind, convince johnthetubaguy :)09:42
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johnthetubaguybauzas: if it doesn't work, lets do something different09:44
johnthetubaguybauzas: I was thinking this would be grouped into a tag for each major release09:45
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: lemme clarify, because I probably misunderstood (darn French!)09:46
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: you want to have one slug per git tag ?09:46
bauzasa slug == a reno file09:46
johnthetubaguythats what I was thinking09:46
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: okay09:46
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: because operators are not reading the YAML files directly09:46
johnthetubaguywell, I guess I was thinking 14.0.0.0 would eventually be the one tag09:47
bauzas(they should actually be very discouraged from doing that)09:47
mnestratovpaul-carlton2: hi09:47
johnthetubaguyagreed09:47
mnestratovcentos709:47
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bauzasso, the point which I agree is that we should have one HTML list bullet grouping all the mutable opts changed, right?09:47
johnthetubaguybauzas: yeah, thats was my aim09:48
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johnthetubaguyis the problem the delete of the old reno file?09:48
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: yeah, it's a non-usual pattern09:49
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: and we don't take benefit of reno doing git scans09:49
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: so, here is my thing09:49
johnthetubaguyyeah, I am not a fan of the delete either, thats going to cause problems09:49
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pkholkinhi folks, please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284868/09:50
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: given reno scans the git commits to know which tags they refer to09:50
johnthetubaguyah..09:51
johnthetubaguyhang on, looking back at the conversation09:51
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: if you amend more than once a specific reno file pre-tagging n-2, then all the modifications will be seen as one HTML bullet09:51
bauzasfor n-209:51
johnthetubaguythat seems OK, unless I am missing something09:51
johnthetubaguyso lets back up a sec, bauzas, how would you like to see this happen?09:52
bauzasI was thinking of one single file09:52
bauzasthat was amended per change09:52
johnthetubaguyso thats what I am wanting, for this cycle09:52
paul-carlton2mnestratov, hi, sorry machine crashed, nvidia driver not playing nicely with Xorg09:52
johnthetubaguybauzas: the slight question is next cycle09:53
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paul-carlton2so it is as centos7 based linux?09:53
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johnthetubaguybauzas: at that point, I think you probably want, "hey here are some more mutable configs we have added"09:53
mnestratovpaul-carlton2: yep09:53
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Refactors nova.cmd utils  https://review.openstack.org/32294309:53
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Adds nova-policy-check cmd  https://review.openstack.org/32294409:53
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I need to test that, but given of what I understand from reno, if you amend one file in a next tag (or release if you prefer), it would be seen as a second HTML bullet09:53
bauzasbecause it wouldn't be seen in the same section09:54
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paul-carlton2mnestratov, ta09:54
johnthetubaguybauzas: but thats bad right, it would have the full list, which is incorrect09:54
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johnthetubaguybauzas: the operator wants to see what got added in next cycle vs this cycle, from the text09:54
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: agreed, but it wouldn't be showing only the diff09:54
bauzaswould09:54
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bauzasie. http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/nova/09:55
bauzasanyway, /me needs to discuss that with dhellmann09:55
bauzasto clarify that09:55
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: that said, you can also just create a new file for the next release if you want to make it super clear09:56
bauzasjust don't name it "ocata"09:56
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lxsliI'm struggling with how else to name it though09:57
bauzaslxsli: you can keep the same prepending name09:57
lxsliconfig-mutable? mutfig-conable? mutable-config-1? I'd rather not rely on the UUIDish part, that's not human friendly09:57
bauzaslxsli: like I said, reno files are not intended to be human friendly *at all*09:58
lxsliyeah but developers have to know which one to add to09:58
bauzasin general, name it by the blueprint title09:58
johnthetubaguylxsli: +1 on adding ocata, for next time, I can't see how else09:58
johnthetubaguybauzas: that will be the blueprint name of ocata09:58
bauzaswe don't enforce a strict policy for naming our slugs09:58
johnthetubaguyso it would probably bemutable-config-ocata next cycle for the BP09:59
johnthetubaguywell, with the extra space09:59
bauzasbut I think I didn't really explained why I dislike having explicit release names in reno filenames09:59
lxsliI don't know that backports are such a problem - remember you're insisting the slugs aren't read by operators10:00
bauzasthat's because those reno files are not bound to a specific release10:00
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bauzaslxsli: well, I actually like the idea that when you backport a fix, you also backport the attached note10:00
lxslithat we definitely agree on10:00
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lxsliis it a problem that if you backport an Ocata feature, you get a slug including ocata?10:01
lxsliI won't mention Ocata in the note itself10:01
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johnthetubaguyso lets back up, in a world free of humans, there would be one commit in Newton and one commit in Ocata, adding all the configs, but thats hard to review, so we are just simulating this with a chain of commits updating the reno as we go.10:02
johnthetubaguy(ignoring that in a world free of humans there wouldn't be a commit in the first place...)10:03
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: lxsli: I totally agree10:04
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johnthetubaguyI don't think we should get too bogged down on what to due during Ocata right now, thats a separate question for a future patch, and future blueprint10:04
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: well, certainly true10:04
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: so, my proposal would be "one file, containing what we merged recently"10:06
johnthetubaguybauzas: right, thats my proposal too10:06
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: and then, for each change making a new opt mutable, then amend that file10:07
johnthetubaguyright10:07
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openstackgerritAlexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Make LM downtime params mutable  https://review.openstack.org/31925410:07
openstackgerritAlexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Update mutable-config reno with LM timeout params  https://review.openstack.org/33723510:07
lxsliThere it is - I'd like to know what to do in Ocata but we have talked about this for a long time already10:07
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I'm really sorry, I feel my poor English level made us discussing in large for something we probably were in consensus since the beginning :/10:07
johnthetubaguybauzas: now when we hit a release boundary, I think we need to come up with something different, I think at that point we need a new file that talks about additional configs10:08
bauzaslxsli: for Ocata, I feel the rule would be a new file containing what was changed by the first ocata commit10:08
johnthetubaguybauzas: OK, yeah, I guess we are agreed then10:09
bauzaslxsli: and then, amending that ocata file for the subsequent changes in the ocata timeframe10:09
lxslibauzas: yep we agree on that, the only sticking point is the naming10:09
bauzaslxsli: well, that's really not a blocker10:09
johnthetubaguyI think we agreed it follows the new blueprint name, which I fine with10:09
lxsliOK cool10:09
bauzasyup10:09
johnthetubaguynow that likely includes the work ocata, but I guess the worry was about *why* it had ocata in the name10:10
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: lxsli!: here is the exact situation where I feel I took 15 mins of both of your time for something we were violently in agreement but I failed to explain that correctly :/10:10
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: zactly10:10
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lxsliwe got there in the end, that's what's important10:12
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johnthetubaguybauzas: it happens, no worries10:13
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mdboothPaulMurray: Do you happen to know if live migration is currently supposed to work on LVM?10:32
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danpbmdbooth:         # NOTE(dgenin): Migration is not implemented for LVM backed instances.10:38
danpb        if CONF.libvirt.images_type == 'lvm' and not booted_from_volume:10:38
danpb            reason = _("Migration is not supported for LVM backed instances")10:38
danpb            raise exception.InstanceFaultRollback(10:38
danpb                exception.MigrationPreCheckError(reason=reason))10:38
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danpboh, but that's in  migrate_disk_and_power_off10:38
mdboothdanpb: Yeah, definitely won't work for cold10:38
danpblooks like its allowed for live migration10:38
mdboothI suspect it currently doesn't work for live either because of that libvirt_utils.create()10:38
openstackgerritAlexandre Levine proposed openstack/nova: POC Imagebackend complete refactoring  https://review.openstack.org/33692110:38
mdboothThere's no hook that I can see to create a new lv on the target10:39
mdboothSo it would try calling create_image() on a block device that doesn't exist10:39
mdboothand fail10:39
danpbor perhaps it'll create a plain file in /dev10:39
mdboothHowever, there's always the possibility that it's doing something obtuse somewhere10:40
mdboothWhich is normally the case, tbh10:40
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mdboothpaul-carlton2: Incidentally, I have a sneaking suspicion that if you attach a volume to an instance, power it down, rescue it, then unrescue it, you'll lose your volume10:42
mdboothRelated to unrescue.xml, I don't think it's being generated correctly (missing block_device_info)10:42
mdboothWhich your thing would fix, right?10:42
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paul-carlton2mdbooth, I can't quite recall but I think you are right10:43
paul-carlton2with HP public cloud we saw issues where by you needed to detach volumes before rescuing and instance10:44
paul-carlton2not sure if that is still the case10:44
mdboothDid you ever use lvm, btw?10:44
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paul-carlton2nope10:45
* mdbooth wonders who uses it10:45
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paul-carlton2someone must otherwise we are all wasting a lot of time supporting it!10:45
mdbooth'someone must'10:46
mdboothPerhaps we should check that :)10:46
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paul-carlton2trouble is it is a bit like looking for Nessie, just because you haven't found it doesn't mean it does not exist!10:47
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mdboothlol10:47
* mdbooth uncovers a blurry photo of something which might be an operator configuring Nova to use LVM10:48
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andrearosapaul-carlton2: given the fact that bookmakers said that it was more likely that Nessie exists than having Leicester winning the premier, we all know now that Nessie exists and someone in the cloud uses LVM10:50
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mdboothandrearosa: I like your logic10:51
andrearosa:)10:51
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johnthetubaguybauzas: have you seen this one, it looks like a good fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261920/410:59
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paul-carlton2andrearosa, you are atleast half right!11:03
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PaulMurraymdbooth, sorry - was talking11:04
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PaulMurraymdbooth, I don't know about lvm - I thought it worked but if you know better then don't rely on me11:05
PaulMurraymdbooth, I do remember that encryption didn't work with lvm11:05
mdboothPaulMurray: I haven't tried it, but it looks to me like it won't work11:05
mdboothYeah, encryption definitely wouldn't work11:05
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I remember some related issue11:43
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: but yeah, I'll review this change11:43
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openstackgerritZhengguang Ou proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: fix detach volume race condition  https://review.openstack.org/29051011:46
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zhangyufeitests ok, need more reviews, thanks. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317306/11:52
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* mdbooth despairs of methods called _get with side-effects :(12:21
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spellerHey guys I have an open change suggestion, fixing a major bug for a week. Any chance you can check it out?12:25
spellerhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/334566/12:25
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johnthetubaguybelliott: you might want to take a read of this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267153/12:30
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hkominosHello Openstackers. I have a quick question if you dont mind. How much whould you think that running openstack nova (and the other services ) cost in the compute host? I mean a Server with just an OS  how much faster would that system be?12:36
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openstackgerritAlexandre Levine proposed openstack/nova: POC Imagebackend complete refactoring  https://review.openstack.org/33692112:37
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ansiwenhkominos: please have a look at the channel topic12:38
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hkominosyes i know its about nova-compute12:38
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hkominosthats why i am here12:38
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hkominosThe question seems relevant. (when i say cost i mean cpu cost)12:38
ansiwenhkominos: and it's about development12:39
hkominosaa ok then12:39
johnthetubaguyalaski: I may just be worrying over nothing, but I had questions around this doc cells transition doc: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267153/12:39
hkominostake care!12:39
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alaskijohnthetubaguy: yeah, that's a great question. I'll add some info about downtime, or lack thereof. I don't think we should expect downtime for any of these migrations.12:42
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johnthetubaguyalaski: cool, thats clearly the answer I was hoping for :)12:43
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kashyapmdbooth: Hey, sorry, was away at the Town Hall for some paperwork.  Now reading the scroll.13:01
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mdboothkashyap: NP. Can't remember why I pinged you :)13:01
kashyapmdbooth: I see it's answered above: "Do we support live migrate with a config disk yet?"13:01
mdboothAh, yes13:02
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kashyapmdbooth: There's this review in-progress: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234659/2013:02
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kashyapThat tries to address the config drive issue13:02
mdboothkashyap: Sweet13:03
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belliottjohnthetubaguy: reading it, thanks13:06
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ftersinmdbooth: hi. what is the last review of your refactoring series?13:13
johnthetubaguybelliott: alaski was saying about the plan being zero downtime during the transition13:13
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mdboothftersin: Well I haven't quite finished it, yet. I just need to abolish _create_images_and_backing, then I'm done13:13
mdboothftersin: However, right now it's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337160/13:14
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belliottjohnthetubaguy: that's a good goal13:15
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johnthetubaguybelliott: yeah, there is very little data moving, its mostly just adding extra mappings, so it "feels" possible13:18
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johnthetubaguybelliott: well, I suppose updating mappings, technically13:19
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belliottalaski: this is a good start to a process :)  adding a few things13:23
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alaskibelliott: great. input is definitely usefule13:24
alaski*useful13:24
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belliottalaski: is scheduler v2 savvy yet?13:25
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alaskibelliott: it is not13:25
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belliottalaski: ok so some of these comments will be sort of future oriented13:26
alaskiit's not going to be directly cells savvy. it's going to rely on things like resource groups/pools and johns sharding proposal for that13:26
belliottalaski: gotcha13:26
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johnthetubaguybelliott: yeah, scheduler returns a host uuid which gives us the cell, we can map cell metadata into aggregate metadata, then that sharding idea was going to give us the scale without deeply changing how we schedule13:28
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belliottjohnthetubaguy: right so it's essentially implied that certain resources belong with certain cells13:28
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johnthetubaguybelliott: its the mappings table, of instance_uuid and host_uuid to cell_uuid13:35
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johnthetubaguybelliott: some resources will then map to a subset of hosts, in the future, and thats unrelated to cell boundaries, in theory13:36
dansmithartom: you wanna check this latest iteration? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331889/13:37
dansmithartom: it's passing the tempest test now13:37
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ftersinmdbooth: thx. yesterday i asked you about usage of cache method. but you probably were offline13:40
openstackgerritPaul Carlton proposed openstack/nova: Permit Live Migration of Rescued Instances  https://review.openstack.org/30819813:40
openstackgerritPaul Carlton proposed openstack/nova: API changes for live migration of rescued instance  https://review.openstack.org/32828013:40
mdboothftersin: Yup, missed that. What was the question?13:40
openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: compute: Skip driver detach calls for non local instances  https://review.openstack.org/31826613:40
lyarwoodmdbooth: ^ can you take another look at that today if you have time?13:41
ftersinmdbooth: now you re-use cache method?13:41
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mdboothftersin: Yes, but no :)13:41
mdboothSo, the plan remains to replace all backend implementations of create_from_(image|func) with native ones13:42
johnthetubaguypkoniszewski: did you get chance to test this one out again? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234659/13:42
openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Fix the clean up of resize-revert for volume backed instances  https://review.openstack.org/32903013:42
mdboothAll I've implemented in this series is a shim which calls cache()13:42
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ftersinmdbooth: and when is come, the first part of the blueprint implementation is done?13:43
mdboothOnce all the backends have merged we can throw away cache() and all the implementations of create_image()13:43
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ftersinwhen it come13:43
mdboothftersin: Yes13:43
ftersinor13:43
ftersinok13:43
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pkoniszewskijohnthetubaguy: with latest libvirt yes, and it works as expected (same piece of code iWeb has in production), but im preparing environment with older libvirt to see if i can drop version requirement13:43
johnthetubaguypkoniszewski: what that setup using selinux, or similar?13:44
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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Return instance of Guest from method write_instance_config  https://review.openstack.org/26514613:44
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johnthetubaguypkoniszewski: oops, I mean was that setup13:44
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pkoniszewskijohnthetubaguy: apparmor13:45
johnthetubaguypkoniszewski: hmm, OK. I guess at least it working under a configuration.13:45
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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Use min parameter to restrict live-migration config options  https://review.openstack.org/32331313:46
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pkoniszewskijohnthetubaguy: i will test it a bit more, need to talk with Daniel anyway13:49
pkoniszewskijohnthetubaguy: i hope to finish it this week13:49
openstackgerritoctopuszhang proposed openstack/nova: Allow irrelevant,self-defined specs in ComputeCapacityFilter  https://review.openstack.org/31730613:49
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pkoniszewskiPaulMurray: tdurakov: i will skip lm meeting today13:51
PaulMurraypkoniszewski, np13:52
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tdurakovPaulMurray: hi, same for me13:56
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PaulMurraytdurakov, what is happening with: Make checks before live-migration async13:56
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tdurakovPaulMurray: discussed it with mriedem, it look like it will have ffe, ready to be merged13:58
PaulMurrayok13:58
kashyaptonyb: IMHO, I think you have to reconsider your -2 there, given the newer arguments -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337277/13:58
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bauzasYingxin: around ?13:59
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pkholkinalaski: dansmith: alex_xu: hi folks, please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284868/14:00
PaulMurraylive migration meeting on #openstack-meeting-3 PaulMurray paul-carlton2 eliqiao shaohe_feng pkoniszewski jlanoux yuntongjin mdbooth kashyap kmartin claudiub tobasco tdurakov andreas_s abhishekk diana_clarke14:00
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kashyapdanpb: FYI, if you want to comment, there's a discussion in-progress on #openstack-meeting-3 of the migration bug you spent time analyzing last week w/ DavidG14:06
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kodokuuHi, Why nova compute call nova API ?14:17
kodokuu8774 port14:18
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mriedemdanpb: dansmith: alaski: johnthetubaguy: mikal: anyone want to talk about FFEs?14:22
openstackgerritLudovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Fix revert on migration with SR-IOV  https://review.openstack.org/32617414:22
openstackgerritLudovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Raise exception if PCI device spec is not found  https://review.openstack.org/33183014:22
openstackgerritLudovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Allocate PCI devices on migration  https://review.openstack.org/32898314:22
openstackgerritLudovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Update binding:profile for SR-IOV ports  https://review.openstack.org/24257314:22
dansmithmriedem: "want" is a strong word14:22
mriedems/want/willing/14:22
dansmithmriedem: I was going to ping you this morning about hyper-v device tagging14:22
dansmiththey have the tempest test running on it14:22
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alaskimriedem: yep, I am willing to talk about them14:23
paul-carlton2anyone here know when support for afinity groups was added to live migration?14:23
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mriedemdansmith: ok, i think that also depends on at least part of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-block-device-mapping-support14:24
gibi_mriedem: hi! I saw you asked about instance.create. There was plan to transform that early in the spec but then the spec was modified to transform instance.delete instead. I gave you a wrong answer on the last nova meeting about it. Sorry.14:24
dansmithmriedem: yeah, the one patch below it just looks like an internal refactor14:24
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danpbmriedem: i'm with dansmith :-)  s/want/just about tolerate/14:24
dansmithheh14:24
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mriedemdansmith: danpb: alaski: ok well the good news is my FFE candidate list is incomplete, so i only have 10 on here right now https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-newton-non-priority-ffe14:25
mriedemwe could go through those and then i can continue going through the backlog today14:25
mriedemand maybe finish up tomorrow14:25
dansmithokay14:25
mriedemalright so i'll just run down this list https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-newton-non-priority-ffe14:26
mriedemhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vmware-limits-newton14:26
mriedemthere is a single change at the bottom with a +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196171/14:26
mriedemit's trivial14:26
mriedemi say we get that in and then nack the rest of the series14:26
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mriedemactually i already -2ed the next in the series14:26
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dansmithis the bottom change useful?14:26
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mriedemit adds the same thing to vif attach that is done during spawn if you have these extra specs set14:27
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: live-mig: Add claims and proper resource tracking  https://review.openstack.org/24448914:27
mriedemfor limits14:27
dansmithhmm, it doesn't seem to do much,14:27
johnthetubaguyhey, sorry, had to talk to some auditor folks, I am around now14:27
dansmithbut maybe something else was merged already that makes it work?14:28
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mriedemdansmith: part of this bp was merged in mitaka14:28
dansmithokay14:28
mriedembut yeah i asked the same last week14:28
dansmithmriedem: does this need a reno if we half merge it now?14:28
dansmithlike "vif limits now work" or something?14:28
mriedemthey actually merged that reno in mitaka14:28
dansmithoh wonderful14:28
mriedemsaying it was done, when it wasn't14:28
mriedemyeah14:28
mriedemi also asked that last week :)14:29
pkholkinmriedem: hi Matt! please return to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284868/14:29
pkholkinI've added links14:29
pkholkinand fix other issues14:29
paul-carlton2anyone here know when support for afinity groups was added to live migration?14:29
alaskipkholkin: that looks like it's next of the FF discussion we're having14:29
danpbmriedem: sure, i'm fine accepting the first patch in the series, and nacking th rest14:29
dansmithmriedem: do we have any indication that it runs in their CI?14:29
danpbmriedem: functionally there's a clean split at that pooint14:29
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mriedemdansmith: it doesn't b/c they are still running nova-net14:29
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paul-carlton2it seems to work in Newton14:30
dansmithmriedem: they have some weird extra_specs object apparently14:30
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mriedemdansmith: so they run nova-net which won't test vif attach14:30
mriedemsince that's neutron only14:30
johnthetubaguypaul-carlton2: early this cycle I think, possibly bits of it late last cycle, bauzas added that14:30
paul-carlton2ta14:30
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mriedembut even if they did run with neutron, they'd need to run the tests with special flavors, which they aren't14:30
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dansmithyeah14:30
mriedemi asked giridhar to sort out the move to testing nova with the nsx v3 CI that they run on neutron changes14:31
dansmithheh, yeah, they have a vm_util.ExtraSpecs class14:31
mriedemand the nsx v3 repo14:31
dansmithweird14:31
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pkholkinalaski: I haven't already -2 there, so I think we can merge this14:31
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pkholkinmaybe we will have some exceptions14:31
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dansmithmriedem: well, whatever, I'm not sure I have enough context to +2 without reading deeper14:31
dansmithsounds like someone else will just stamp it though14:32
mriedemok, moving on14:32
mriedemhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/keypairs-pagination14:32
danpbpkholkin: can you wait for us to finish discussing the FFE list before asking for other reviews - it just gets confusing to talk about multiple things at once14:32
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mriedemkeypairs paging change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284868/14:32
mriedemi was through that a couple of times awhile back, but not recently14:33
dansmithmriedem: I'm pro landing that, but probably not interested in +2ing because of all the API fu14:33
mriedemit's a bit hairier because it's paging across the api and cell dbs14:33
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mriedemalaski: have you been through that one recently?14:33
alaskinot since last week14:33
alaskibut I'm for trying to land it, and am willing to review it14:34
johnthetubaguydo we really need to page across?14:34
johnthetubaguyI thought we should just read from API now?14:34
johnthetubaguyoh, wait, we are mid move...14:34
alaskiit seemed close and then got held up on sorting concerns and adding links14:34
pkholkinyes14:34
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: cellsv1 I think14:34
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dansmithoh, right, I guess we have to handle the case where people haven't done their migrations14:35
johnthetubaguydansmith: oh, good point14:35
mriedemyeah, it's done like we have for paging with flavors14:35
dansmiththat'd be avoided if we waited until ocata...14:35
johnthetubaguydansmith: I see what you did there14:35
dansmithheh14:35
dansmithI want us to have pagination for things like this, so I'm not arguing that we not land it, I'm just saying :)14:36
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johnthetubaguyyeah, totally +1 pagination14:36
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danpbpagination is a nice to have, but ultimately how time critical is it that we have it now14:36
mriedemso alaski signed up for it, i can help with it too since i've been on some other paging changes lately so i'm familiar, if dansmith can sanity check the object paging code since it's lifted from the flavor object https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284868/17/nova/objects/keypair.py14:36
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dansmithmriedem: sure14:36
danpbif it gets simpler by waiting to ocata, i say wait14:36
alaskiif this waits for O it loses some of the complexity about migrations, but there's already a pattern for it14:37
dansmiththis has gotten a lot of review already, right?14:37
mriedemyeah i think the multi-db stuff is really just in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284868/17/nova/objects/keypair.py and it's the same as flavors14:37
mriedemdansmith: it's gotten a decent amount14:37
dansmiththat is what FFEs are for14:37
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dansmiththere are others on the list that haven't,14:37
dansmithso I say we do it14:37
mriedemok so i'm hearing 2 cores for this one14:37
johnthetubaguyit has got a fair bit, thats true14:37
mriedemyeah, agree14:37
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johnthetubaguyagreed its not totally time critical, if we need to trim the list14:38
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mriedemnext14:38
mriedemhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/refresh-quotas-usage14:38
mriedem1/3 of this is done14:39
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mriedemit's an operator ask, or at least has been in previous releases14:39
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mriedemccarmack is no longer working on it, but melwitt took it over and cleaned it up14:39
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mriedemi have not gone through the last 2/314:39
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alaskihave the db  api changes landed?14:39
dansmithtwi patches?14:40
dansmither, two14:40
mriedemalaski: tey hae14:40
mriedemha14:40
alaskilooks like some have at least14:40
mriedem*they have14:40
mriedemthe db api change was the first patch14:40
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mriedemthe 2nd one is the hairy one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299487/14:40
mriedemthe last is the CLI change to call it all, which is trivial14:40
dansmithboth only touch nova-manage though?14:40
mriedemyup14:40
mriedemwell14:40
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/299487/ touches nova.quotas14:40
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johnthetubaguyyeah, the stuff in quota is hairy, but seems well tested14:40
alaskiif it's just nova-manage additions I am totally for this14:40
dansmithmriedem: right but not runtime code yes?14:41
johnthetubaguyI can lend a hand reviewing14:41
mriedemdansmith: correct14:41
johnthetubaguydansmith: yeah, +114:41
dansmithalaski: yeah, that's what I'm thinking14:41
dansmithnon runtime code == safe14:41
mriedemand it looks like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299487/7/nova/quota.py is mostly docstrings14:41
mriedemok so it sounds like we're good with this14:41
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danpbdansmith: nova-manage code is arguably more critical that most code14:42
alaskiwhat's up looks pretty sane to me14:42
danpbdansmith: because its munging people's data14:42
mriedemthis doesn't really change any data14:42
dansmithdanpb: um, true in general I guess, but generally easier to validate because it's not code in the middle of a giant running stack14:42
mriedemit just forces a refresh of the quota usage14:42
mriedemwhich is what we do anyway, if you configure the quota refresh stuff14:42
alaskinova-manage kicks off the sync code that is already in use14:43
johnthetubaguyits the existing periodic refresh thats getting explicitly triggered14:43
johnthetubaguyyeah14:43
alaskias I understand it14:43
danpbmriedem: so its  just triggering code which already exists then, ?14:43
mriedemdanpb: yeah14:43
danpbok, that sounds ok then14:43
mriedemdanpb: i think by default we don't have a timer in the config on a forced refresh14:43
mriedembut if you set that, it's the same code path14:43
mriedemthis is just a CLI entrypoint to that14:43
alaskiwe don't by default, yeah14:43
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mriedemmoving on14:44
mriedem4. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/pci-passthrough-whitelist-regex14:44
mriedemsingle change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199488/14:44
mriedembut not really any core review since last july14:45
dansmithbut,14:45
dansmithit also seems rather trivial14:45
danpbyeah, its pretty simple code14:45
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pkholkinmriedem: do you have maybe some etherpad for FFEs14:45
dansmithand it probably makes operators' lives easier14:45
danpband its already missed 2 releases so theyve been waiting a long time for it :-(14:46
alaskiI wish this had been brought up before, looks like it just didn't get any attention14:46
alaskiI wasn't aware of it14:46
danpbyeah, its the kind of thing that should have been pinged ina  weekly meeting14:46
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dansmiththis is also barely runtime code I think14:46
dansmithit mostly just determines what pci devices we collect/report14:46
dansmithlike, run-at-start code14:47
danpbits actually run when refreshing the list of available pci devs from the host14:47
pkholkinmriedem: I found, sorry, missed the start of the discussion14:47
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danpbso iiuc that's run periodically throughout life of nova-compute14:47
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alaskiis this additive, as in do deployers need to update what they use now?14:47
danpbno, its back compatible - existing configs will just work14:47
dansmithdanpb: I thought we made the list on startup and then use the list periodically?14:48
alaskiokay. with backwards compatibility I see this as low risk with good value14:48
danpbtrue, i guess ew create the PciAddressGlobSpec object at startup14:48
danpband just evaluate it at runtime14:48
dansmithdanpb: right14:48
johnthetubaguyseems worth trying to get it14:48
dansmiththis seems like low risk high reward14:48
danpbin any case, this has no impact for people who've not turned on pci device passthrough14:49
mriedemwho is signing up for this one?14:49
danpbi'll volunteer14:49
mriedemok14:49
mriedem1 more14:49
johnthetubaguyOK14:49
mriedemjohnthetubaguy: that's a "me too"?14:49
mriedemin british?14:49
johnthetubaguyyeah, sorry, thats a me too14:49
mriedemok14:49
dansmithI'll take a look too I guess.. I'm not an expert in this code, but I can try14:49
johnthetubaguyyeah, lol14:49
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mriedem5. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/async-live-migration-rest-check14:50
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mriedemthere is one change left here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314932/14:50
mriedemthe microversion / rest api change14:51
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mriedemi had asked for a tempest test for this14:51
mriedemsince it's a change in behaviour for live migration14:51
mriedemthe change itself is pretty simple, so i'd be on board with reviewing it since it's API,14:51
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dansmithah, so,14:51
mriedembut my +2 is contingent on a tempest run with it14:51
pkholkintdurakov: ^14:51
dansmiththis one is kindof a course correction around the assumptions made by the client when they ask for a migration, right?14:52
dansmithcourse correction and expectation-adjustment is sometimes a long battle,14:52
dansmithso earlier is better14:52
mriedemyes, the pre-live migration checks are async now14:52
mriedemso the errors you can get back are different14:52
dansmiththe only actual change is cast vs. call right?14:52
dansmiththis is just microversion code around that14:52
mriedemand you have to track with instance actions14:52
johnthetubaguydansmith: +114:53
alaskidansmith: yes14:53
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dansmithbut actually dropping the call later isn't something that's really on the horizon right?14:53
dansmithor are we planning to just fail all of those with some excuse at some point?14:53
alaskithere's no plan yet14:53
mriedemnot until we raise the minimum microversion14:53
mriedemlike most things14:53
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dansmithso, feels like a deprecation timer we want to start early, but the ability to drop the old stuff is "forever" away14:54
mriedemcorrect14:54
danpbyeah,the sooner we start ticking the better14:54
dansmithI guess I'm kinda meh then14:54
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mriedemi'm pro getting this in given everything else in the series is already in, and the api change is pretty simple,14:55
mriedembut i want to see a tempest test14:55
alaskiI'm for it as well, and am willing to review14:55
alaski+1 on tempest14:55
johnthetubaguyyeah, same as mriedem and alaski, folks keep hitting issues with the old way of calling14:55
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mriedemmoving on - sounds like we have some people for htis14:56
mriedem6. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324068/14:56
mriedemso this is a spec, no code yet14:57
mriedemb/c the spec is meant to limit the apis that have to support this14:57
danpbif there's no code, then automatic -2 on FFE surely14:57
mriedemsdague wanted an exception for this because we/he said in the ML that we'd get this in for newton14:57
mriedemthis is a regression from v2 api support14:57
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johnthetubaguyoh, so this is an operator request14:57
danpbwhat's the timeframe for actually getting some code for it ?14:57
johnthetubaguywe broke CERN14:57
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mriedemdanpb: if sdague is going to write the code? maybe august14:58
danpbif its a regression should we just treat it as a bug fix14:58
mriedemhe's on vacation for 2 weeks and then we have the meetup14:58
danpband thus avoid the whole question of FFE14:58
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johnthetubaguyso our dropping of v2.0 is going to break people, if we don't land it14:58
dansmithmriedem: it's a bug that needs a spec change right?14:58
johnthetubaguydansmith: kinda is actually14:59
* dansmith wordsmiths the problem away14:59
johnthetubaguyits a big regression, that was intentional, but turned out to be wrong14:59
dansmithso not an FFE, but also not blocked? :)14:59
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danpbdropping v2.0 is a priority right ?14:59
mriedemnot really blocked14:59
mriedemthere is no microversion14:59
johnthetubaguydanpb: its already happened14:59
mriedemthis is really, build a bridge for a minimal set of APIs and make that bridge deprecated right away15:00
mriedemso people can move off it15:00
johnthetubaguymriedem: yep15:00
danpbhow long do we keep the deprecated bridge around for ?15:00
danpbuntil we bump the min microversion again ?15:00
mriedemgood question15:00
johnthetubaguyhonestly, till we sort out some hierarchical project system15:00
mriedemthere isn't a microversion for this15:00
mriedemdanpb: that's probably a question for the spec15:00
johnthetubaguythe problem is our current system doesn't deal with people's quota use case15:00
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mriedemyeah this is a stop-gap for hierarchical quota support right?15:01
johnthetubaguyi.e. a group with a shared quota, but gets their own VMs to manage15:01
mriedemi didn't read or  follow the entire ML thread15:01
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danpbso we'd not really be deprecating it straight away then - its something we'll expect people to use until we create a real alternative15:01
johnthetubaguymriedem: basically, that was my read of the situation15:01
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mriedemdanpb: i think hierarchical quotas is the replacement15:02
johnthetubaguydanpb: yep, apart from making it clear that using the feature makes you fail defcore and not be interoperable15:02
danpbthe implication of not accepting this is that they can't upgrade to Newton i presume ?15:02
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johnthetubaguydanpb: I think so15:02
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johnthetubaguywell, not without adding the small hack to allow the old policy check15:03
danpbso I'm a  +2 on it simply because we should never put our users in a situation where they can't upgrade15:03
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johnthetubaguydanpb: yeah, same here, thats a good way of putting it15:03
kodokuuHi, every 10 minutes, nova compute send a request on API for GET change instances. compute use publicURL for that, how can I change to internalURL endpoint ? Thx for help.15:03
mriedemdanpb: johnthetubaguy: so let's move conversation to the review15:03
johnthetubaguyyep, +115:04
mriedemi just threw this on the list since it came up last week, and is sort of a bp exception15:04
danpbyep, so agree we need some kind of solution and that's a release blocker essentially - the details we must continue discussing on review15:04
belliottdansmith: so our ops team likes to mark hosts as "disabled" when there is an issue.  sometimes they get disabled for longer periods of time, which tends to render the service minimum version calculation incorrect (auto).  i noticed that the minimum version is filtered on "forced_down".  what is the difference between that and disabled?  i'm basically turning off auto versioning for now because of15:05
belliottthis15:05
mriedem7. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/live-migrate-rescued-instances15:05
dansmithbelliott: forced_down means "I fenced it"15:05
belliottdansmith: doesn't seem like forced_down really does anything except provide an api flag15:05
dansmithbelliott: it does a lot.. it lets you evacuate from the host, etc15:05
belliottdansmith: sorry, what is "fenced"?15:05
mriedemso there are 2 changes for this yet, the top microversion change is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328280/15:05
dansmithbelliott: I have unplugged it from the network, either physically or with a firewall. I'm assuring you it's dead, before you (nova) have noticed15:05
mriedemi haven't reviewed either15:06
mriedemthere is a tempest change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336414/ but last i looked over the weekend it wasn't passing yet15:06
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danpbmriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328280/ has had essential no review at all15:07
belliottdansmith: okay, i just didn't see much referencing this code, probably missing it15:07
paul-carlton2It passes when I run it manually in devstack, gmann has been helping me get it fixed15:07
danpbjohnthetubaguy:  is the only core who's ever loooked at it iiuc15:07
dansmithbelliott: it lets you assert the down-ness of the host before nova's timer would have made that call, so the implication of setting it is the same as that service-up-ness timer (or zk, or whatever) determining that the service is down15:07
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mriedemdanpb: yeah, and very little on the change before it15:08
belliottdansmith: ok i see the check in servicegroup/api.py now15:08
mriedemjohnthetubaguy: any thoughts on the live migrate rescued instances series?15:08
belliottdansmith: so do we need both disabled and forced_down?15:08
mriedemi'm more or less nack on that one15:08
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johnthetubaguyso I am not sure15:09
johnthetubaguyits probably not that close to merge right now15:09
belliottdansmith: basically wondering if i should upload a patch to also filter minimum version on "disabled."15:09
dansmithmriedem: yeah, doesn't seem like a huge priority to me15:09
mriedemjohnthetubaguy: yeah, i want things that are close15:09
mriedemok, so i'm not hearing any strong push for this one, so nack15:10
diana_clarkeartom: You've written a new tempest test recently. Do you have a second to fill me in on your approach? I'm assuming you point it to devstack while writing the new test, etc.15:10
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dansmithbelliott: disabled means "up but don't schedule to me" down and forced-down means "it's down, dead, etc"15:10
dansmithbelliott: they're different15:10
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mriedem8. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/improve-sched-logging15:11
danpbi'm supportive of the change as a general concept, but with everything else we're doing around storage refactorin in libvirt and migration, i'd rather nack it15:11
artomdiana_clarke, the tempest quickstart is a good starting point: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tempest/overview.html15:11
danpb(opps,i was referring the #7 there, not '8)15:11
mriedemdanpb: ack on the nack15:11
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mriedemso https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/improve-sched-logging15:11
belliottdansmith: gotcha, so it's assumed that disabled will always have current code, and thus not screw up the version calculation.15:11
mriedemalaski: johnthetubaguy: danpb: dansmith: ^15:11
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paul-carlton2johnthetubaguy, mriedem I'll resubmit it for Ocata, gives me chance to add the xenAPI implementation too15:11
belliottdansmith: our ops uses it as a catch all to do maintenance i think15:11
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dansmithbelliott: yeah, you can still send anything to a disabled host except for new instances15:12
diana_clarkeartom: Yup, I've done that. Have the existing tests running, etc15:12
kevin_zhvaldik: Thanks for your comments :-) according to my understandin to your comment2, in driver.py, Should I also need to modify the function _prepare_device_bus() to let LibvirtConfigGuestDeviceAddress get a bus=None ? If I don't modify it ,I will get error when unit tests: https://bpaste.net/show/1f5f9329516115:12
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mriedempaul-carlton2: thanks15:12
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mriedemon the improved scheduler logging, it's a single change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331306/15:12
mriedemi haven't reviewed15:12
artomdiana_clarke, and then yeah, in your tempest configuration file you give it the information about your cloud, mine looks like http://paste.openstack.org/show/526015/15:12
belliottdansmith: okay, i think we'll probably run with static versions then for the time being15:12
mriedembauzas:  has a bit15:12
danpbmost the file changes are just changing an import line15:12
danpband its all just about issuing more log debug lines15:12
alaskimriedem: I haven't reviewed either, but I'm supportive of doing it15:12
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danpbi think itd be a very useful improvement in troubleshooting real world nova deployments15:13
openstackgerritAlexandre Levine proposed openstack/nova: POC Imagebackend complete refactoring. PLEASE DO NOT REVIEW.  https://review.openstack.org/33692115:13
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bauzasyup, it seems to me quite good15:13
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mriedembauzas: but how close is it?15:13
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mriedemdanpb: i agree, it's an operator ask for a few releases15:13
artomdiana_clarke, if you have any more specific questions about writing tests I can try and answer them :)15:13
bauzasmriedem: not that far, I think15:13
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mriedembauzas: would you sign up as a reviewer for it if it gets an FFE?15:14
bauzasmriedem: I just saw the new PS, will review them soon15:14
bauzasmriedem: okay, fine by me15:14
danpbthe only thing that makes me wary is the way its trying to stuff itself into the base logging apis somehow15:14
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dansmithdanpb: yeah, that seems odd to me15:15
artomclaudiub|2, BobBall, thank you again for taking up device tagging in your respective virt drivers. FYI, there's a bug I've found with the common implementation: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/159920115:15
openstackLaunchpad bug 1599201 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Device tagging does not work with block_device_mapping with source=blank,destination=local" [Undecided,New]15:15
danpbso i'm in favour of the concept, but the impl makes me throw up a little15:15
mriedemdanpb: yeah i'm not sure why there isn't just a newly registered handler15:15
mriedemwell,15:15
mriedemi think the point was to keep the records in memory,15:16
mriedemand then dump them on failure15:16
artomBobBall, also, in case you weren't aware, there's a tempest test you guys can use to test your implementation: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305120/15:16
bauzasdanpb: well, given the interface is quite simple, I think we could merge it soon and discuss on a better implementation maybe after15:16
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bauzasdanpb: but the main point we agreed during the summit is that we want to pile all the records in memory15:16
alaskiI thought we had discussed storing the info in context15:16
bauzasalaski: sure, it was one way15:17
dansmithhow does this work (or not) with the delayed translation?15:17
dansmithmaybe doesn't matter because DEBUG?15:17
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openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the linuxnet options (4)  https://review.openstack.org/27542315:17
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diana_clarkeartom: My tempest test changes aren't being picked up by the test runner. I must be doing something wrong with the tempest that gets installed alongside devstack vs. my development env for tempest.15:17
mriedemi'd have to read the spec again before reviewing this15:17
bauzasdansmith: I don't think it would have a problem, because that's just a wrapper15:17
mriedemi also worry about anything in here using internals of oslo.log, which could change15:18
mriedemi'm not sure if it does though15:18
bauzasdid we discussed that during the unconference, right?15:18
danpbwhat i particularly don't like is that it is needing to change imports in code outside the schedular tree15:18
bauzaslemme find the notes15:18
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danpbeg, its touching nova/virt/hardware.py for example15:18
dansmithoh jeez15:18
dansmithdidn't see that15:18
dansmiththat's a no-go I think15:18
mriedemdanpb: that's b/c of the numa filter i think15:18
dansmithyeah, I'm sure15:19
danpbeven, though its just changing an import line from olso_logging to the custom nova.cshedular logging module15:19
dansmithbut that's pretty confusing15:19
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danpbmriedem: sure i understand why, but that file is used by way more than just the schedular15:19
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artomdiana_clarke, I run mine with ostestr --regex tempest.api.compute.test_device_tagging (or something like that)15:19
bauzasdanpb: right, I made that question too15:19
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danpbso it just feels wrong to be changing it to suit the schedular in that way15:19
dansmithI'm -1.9 on that approach, really15:19
dansmithanyway, shall we take that discussion to the review?15:20
danpbanyway, I'm -1 on a FFE, even though i think its very valuable concept15:20
artomdiana_clarke, also keep in mind, if you've installed Tempest into your system path as root, you'll need to pip install --upgrade <your tempest working directory> to install any changes you've made into your system tempest installation15:20
danpbbecause it just seems the impl has too many open Qs15:20
mriedemi was going to say, it sounds like there is interest, but we're not really sure yet15:20
bauzasokay, sounds there are good questions that need to be resolved first15:20
alaskiI feel the same as danpb, a lot of open questions for this late15:20
danpbif we merged it now there's no incentive to fix it later either15:21
bauzasokay, remove my sponsoring then15:21
diana_clarkeartom: Yes, that's what I was asking (but not very clearly). Is that your approach?15:21
mriedemok, -2 on that one - would be good to get those questions/comments in the review though15:21
mriedemso we don't forget about them15:21
bauzasagreed15:21
bauzas#1 oslo.log internals15:21
artomdiana_clarke, yep, that's what I did15:21
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BobBallthanks artom - I've passed that information onto huazhihao who is working on our implementation.15:21
bauzas#2 in-memory storage15:21
bauzas#3 potential use of the context object15:22
bauzasamirite?15:22
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diana_clarkeartom: Ah, okay. It seemed strange to me. But I can't find any documented alternatives. Thanks!15:22
artomdiana_clarke, I think there's a way to run Tempest from the working directory, but it didn't work out of the box for me, so I went with system installation as root15:22
mriedembauzas: yeah, but i don't know that #1 is real, it's just a thing i worry about extending clases from oslo libs15:22
bauzasmriedem: but your point is very valid15:22
artomIt's only one extra command to run before running the tests, so it's not a huge deal15:22
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bauzasmriedem: I'm now a bit worried to see a possibilty to have the scheduler logs being trampled by a new oslo.log version15:23
mriedemdanpb: dansmith: johnthetubaguy: alaski: ok, #9 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-virtlogd15:23
artomdiana_clarke, oh wait, you've installed tempest on your devstack machine?15:23
mriedemthere are 2 open changes left15:24
mriedemsahid has come around on it15:24
mriedemdanpb has reviewed some in the past15:24
artomdiana_clarke, I was working from my physical laptop environment15:24
dansmithobviously important but I don't know what state it is in15:24
mriedemsahid: you had said at one point in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-virtlogd that you were having problems testing with it?15:24
danpbi've been reviewing it alot and the nova code is pretty much done15:24
mriedemsahid: did you get that sorted out?15:24
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danpbbut we've identified a potential flaw in the upstream QEMU impl we've not yet diagnose or resolved15:24
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diana_clarkeartom: I've tried a bunch of different things, some of it I found under "legacy" in the docs, so I was curious what "the right way" was.15:25
mriedemdanpb: i saw the nova bug for that, something about a log tag15:25
mriedem?15:25
danpbhence why its registering a workaround option, so that people have to opt-in for virtlogd15:25
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danpbso if we do merge this, there's essentall no functional change out of the box15:25
artomdiana_clarke, I can't speak to what the "right way" is - to me it's whatever works - in the end you're still submitting the exact same code, and that's what counts15:25
danpbpeople would have to toggle the workaround option to opt-in15:25
alaskiwhat's the likelihood of an issue if turned on?15:26
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alaskiand what fails, just no boot messages?15:26
danpbalaski: essentially the issue we've not yet identified is that it appears log messags don't get written to the log file15:26
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danpbunless the serial console us opened15:27
danpbwhich is pretty unpleasant behaviour to be honest15:27
mriedemthat's only if you enable the workaround?15:27
danpbyep, and also only ifyou have QEMU >= 2.615:27
danpbthere's a strong possibility that fixing the problem may require QEMU 2.715:27
danpbgiven this, i'm tending towards -1 on the FFE15:28
danpbbecause very few people will have qemu 2.6 when newton comes out15:28
danpband those which do have qemu 2.6 will probably not be able touse it anyway15:28
alaskiI like the change, but I don't think I'm the right person to review it so I'll defer15:29
mriedemyeah i guess i don't like shipping a broken feature, even though it's disabled by default15:29
danpbFWIW, i've no concern about the actual nova code - just the qemu feature it relies on15:29
mriedemif we defer we can buy some time to sort out the qemu bug15:29
mriedemand by we, i mean danpb and markus_z :)15:29
sahidmriedem: unfortunatly i was not able to make it working, i expected to see the bug fixed soon15:29
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mriedemsahid: oh, i assumed you had since you +1ed15:30
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sahidmriedem: no, no the code looks good and the problem is on qemu so15:30
mriedemserial console for markus_z is probably not an issue since i think for s390x they always have that on or something15:30
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mriedemanyway, i think i'm -2 on this also15:31
markus_zyep, we would have the serial console always on15:31
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markus_zand the patch would improve our situation a bit15:31
kashyapmarkus_z: Is there an upstream QEMU bug logged for the issue discussed above?15:31
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markus_zkashyap: No, I only talked to danpb about it15:32
kashyap(It automatically propagtes to the mailing list, raising the likelihood of people looking at it.)15:32
mriedemdanpb: alaski: dansmith: johnthetubaguy: last one for today, 10. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vendordata-reboot15:32
mriedemthat's mikal's15:32
mriedemi reviewed it last friday15:32
* danpb wonders what vendordata is15:32
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mriedemdanpb: today you can classload a plugin to provide 'vendor' metadata15:33
mriedemthat was deprecated in mitaka15:33
mriedemlike most classloading / hook type things15:33
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danpbso this is about a way to let people inject arbitrary custom info in the metadata service, by just proxying to a 3rd party rest api ?15:33
mriedemyes15:33
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mriedempersonally i don't see a huge difference in the end user outcome of this15:34
dansmithmriedem: I haven't re-reviewed it since he made changes for me15:34
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mriedemi.e. i'm not completely sure why this is far better than the classloading approach15:34
markus_zdanpb: Should I open a bug report for qemu for virtlogd or do you wanna do that?15:35
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danpbmarkus_z: can you do it and let me know the bug num15:35
markus_zdanpb: OK15:35
danpbmriedem: i guess the benefit is that we don't have to support a stable python api15:35
mriedemdespite that, i think the code itself looks ok - it needs more unit testing of error cases and a functional test in tree with a fake rest endpoint15:35
danpbmriedem: we have a rest API thats specified independently of the nova code15:36
mriedemyeah, and you can have multiples of them15:36
markus_zmriedem: FWIW, we have a hypervisor on system Z which releases with qemu 2.6.0 in future15:36
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claudiub|2artom: aham. the ephemeral tag one. i thought we discussed about it already. :)15:37
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mriedemso the other thing with this is, we said we wouldn't drop the vendordata classloading until this is in as a replacement15:37
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artomclaudiub|2, I think so, but now there's an official bug report15:37
mriedemso i think we want to get this in for newton so we can drop that classloading in ocata15:37
mriedemmikal: are you around?15:38
danpbso the current change has had review from several cores already15:38
mriedemyeah i think at least myself and sdague are behind it15:38
mriedembut sdague is really MIA for a few weeks15:39
mriedemanyway, i'm +1 on a FFE for this one15:39
danpbpresumably since this is a new feature, there's minimal impact to existing users15:39
mriedemright15:39
danpbuntil we actually delete the class loading alternative15:39
mriedemcorrect, which is why it's getting some priority15:40
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danpbso as with the earlier change, we discussed, it'd be nice to get this in, so we can start the timer for deletion of the class loading15:40
mriedemit would be great if all of the people that gnash and wail in the ML about dropping that vendordata classloading ability to help push on this15:40
mdboothdanpb: I haven't seen the patch you were talking about earlier, btw (with the potentially broken qemu), but there's a cost to unmerged, good code in merge conflicts and duplication.15:40
mriedemdanpb: yeah i agree, which is why i'm +1 on FFE15:41
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mriedemdansmith: alaski: johnthetubaguy: any objections?15:41
mriedemor meh15:41
danpbi'm +0 on ffe - will let others decide15:41
alaskino objects. I see the value, but I have not looked at the code before today15:41
dansmithmriedem: meh15:41
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alaskibleh, no objections15:42
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mriedemok. honestly, this might drag past the midcycle for when sdague is back15:42
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mriedembut we'll see15:42
mriedemalright, that was my list for today15:42
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johnthetubaguymriedem: yeah, its not a bad idea finishing that off if we can15:43
mriedemmikal needs to rid his body of all of the viruses though15:43
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johnthetubaguymriedem: yeah, sounds like he is having a rough time of it this winter15:43
mriedemdanpb: alaski: johnthetubaguy: dansmith: ok i'll go through the rest of the bp backlog for newton and make another list for tomorrow15:43
johnthetubaguymriedem: ah, bite sized chunks, thats a good plan15:44
mriedembut consider 8/13 (next wednesday) EOD for dansmith as the FFE deadline15:44
danpbmriedem: FWIW, i'm offline tomorrow15:44
dansmithmriedem: sounds good15:44
mriedemdanpb: ok15:44
alaskimriedem: sounds good. thanks for putting this together15:44
danpbdon't let that stop you though15:44
mriedemjohnthetubaguy: not really a plan, but i'll take credit for it :)15:44
johnthetubaguymriedem: heh15:44
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markus_zdanpb: FYI: qemu 2.6.0 bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu/+bug/159921415:47
openstackLaunchpad bug 1599214 in QEMU "virtlogd: qemu 2.6.0 doesn't log boot message" [Undecided,New]15:47
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mriedemdanpb: can you take a pass at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196171/ before you head out?15:51
danpbmriedem: ok15:51
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kashyapmarkus_z: Being a pest: I think you meant "virtlogd feature of libvirt", which utilizes the log file property of QEMU chardev backends :-)15:53
markus_zwhoops15:53
markus_zyep15:53
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kashyapHeh, no worries.15:54
markus_zI hope the sentence makes now more sense15:55
kashyapmarkus_z: Yep, that's the nice feature of LP that's lacking in Bugzilla - to retroactively update the Decsription15:56
markus_zkashyap: yeah, that's one thing LP does well :)15:56
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mriedempkholkin: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336546/ add that to the main patch15:58
mriedempkholkin: that's what we've done with other microversion changes15:58
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kashyapMatt (Riedemann) When you get a sec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337277/15:59
kashyap(It's just going in circles)15:59
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tjonesmarkus_z: question about config opts - im looking at the wiki and i don't see how to mark something as default16:02
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markus_ztjones: Do you mean that an option should have X as default value?16:02
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tjonesyes - i am finally updating https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255578/1316:03
tjonesdebug is false by default16:03
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markus_ztjones: That's already done by the line 19 "default=False" I think16:04
tjonesduh16:04
tjonesthanks16:04
markus_ztjones: The comment from macsz is obsolete I guess16:04
tjonesoh - the review comment..  yeah ok16:04
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tjonesthanks16:05
markus_zyou're welcome16:05
openstackgerritTracy Jones proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section "guestfs"  https://review.openstack.org/25557816:05
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sahidmriedem: i fixed my vote, you are right i should have pay much attention of the workaround16:07
mriedemsahid: ok16:07
mriedemtdurakov: pkoniszewski: does anyone have a tempest patch started for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314932/ ?16:08
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openstackgerritKevin Zhao proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Modify the interface address object assignment  https://review.openstack.org/33678116:12
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pkoniszewskimriedem: im not aware of any patch that covers features merged in newton16:14
openstackgerritHironori Shiina proposed openstack/nova: Ironic: change flat network provider to 'flat'  https://review.openstack.org/29789516:14
pkoniszewskimriedem: oh, this one isnt merged, but still, i don't know of any16:16
mriedemok16:16
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openstackgerritTracy Jones proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section "guestfs"  https://review.openstack.org/25557816:19
edleafe-johnthetubaguy: regarding your deprecation comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282039/8/nova/conf/network.py@367 - should I just add the 'deprecated_for_removal=True' param to that option?16:19
edleafe-johnthetubaguy: or did you want that in a separate patch?16:19
johnthetubaguyedleafe-16:19
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johnthetubaguyedleafe-: I think we should probably wait, we kinda need to replace it I guess16:20
johnthetubaguyedleafe-: sorry, I was kinda typing out loud, if that makes sense?16:20
edleafe-johnthetubaguy: heh, totally understand16:20
edleafe-johnthetubaguy: so I'll ignore that for now16:20
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openstackgerritSTEW TY proposed openstack/nova: Complete verification for os-floating-ips  https://review.openstack.org/32970416:23
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tdurakovmriedem: hi16:24
tdurakovare you around?16:24
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mriedemtdurakov: i am16:24
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tdurakovwant to discuss tempest scenario: what are you expecting to see in it? from my sight it would be ok to run it on single node env, try to do migration and than verify that instance actions track failue16:25
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tdurakovmriedem: what do you think?16:25
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mriedemtdurakov: for a resize?16:25
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tdurakovmriedem: for a live-migration,  this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314932/16:26
mriedemtdurakov: i figured a live migration test that uses the microversion16:26
danpbmriedem: the mutable-config blueprint isn't a priority item is it ?16:26
mriedemdanpb: it's not in the list16:26
* danpb is just wondering why https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/mutable-config is still marked approved16:26
mriedemdanpb: i didn't even know that existed until a week or two ago16:27
tdurakovmriedem: oh only to test microversion, ok16:27
mriedemdanpb: i haven't dropped the hammer on all things yet, it's a big list16:27
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mriedemdanpb: so that would probably be an FFE candidate in the list that i was going to create today16:27
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mriedemlooks like it only has one change left https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319254/16:28
danpbit'll have 2 changes left once he deals with my feedback :-)16:28
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mriedemtdurakov: yeah, so basically a copy of the live block migratoin test that tempest already has, but with the microversion16:29
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mriedemtdurakov: that would show us the microversion working in the live migration / multinode full job16:29
tdurakovmriedem: acked, need half an hour to submit one16:29
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openstackgerritArtom Lifshitz proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Virtual device tagging client support  https://review.openstack.org/29922216:35
openstackgerritArtom Lifshitz proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Support tagged nic/bdm attachment  https://review.openstack.org/33732516:35
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mriedemkashyap: i'll check it out16:37
kashyapThanks.16:38
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stevemarsdague not around today?16:45
dansmithmriedem: so you'll put things like the hyperv tagging patch on the next list for ffe consideration, right?16:45
dansmithstevemar: we fired that guy16:45
stevemardansmith: good call16:45
stevemar:)16:45
dansmithikr?16:45
stevemari typed 'sd' and tab completion failed :(16:45
dansmithstevemar: sd<FIRED>16:45
pkoniszewskidanpb: hi, are you around?16:45
dansmithstevemar: he's on vacay for like three months or something16:46
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stevemardansmith: da faq16:46
dansmithstevemar: hence the firing16:46
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stevemardansmith: i hope he avoids your lawn while on vcation16:46
danpbpkoniszewski: if you're quick, as i'm about to finish for the day16:46
mriedemdansmith: yeah16:46
dansmithstevemar: may be two weeks plus one for meetup, given my normal hyperbole overcommit ratio16:46
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stevemar:)16:46
mriedemsdague has taken off 201616:47
pkoniszewskidanpb: sure, just one question, regarding  LM with read-only config drive https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234659/16:47
danpbok16:47
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stevemarthanks dansmith i will bug anne about the API stuff then16:48
pkoniszewskidanpb: i'm not sure why you said that qemu will be blocked from writing, i'm copying whole config drive to destination before migration starts16:48
dansmithstevemar: yep16:48
pkoniszewskidanpb: it's my bad that i left this version requirement in code, it has nothing to do with this change16:48
danpbpkoniszewski: ah, i mis-understood that - i thought you were enabling it to work with live block migration16:48
stevemarunless someone here nows how the switch was flipped to publish from the nova repo instead of the api-site repo :\16:48
pkoniszewskidanpb: whole config drive is copied prior to migration so libvirt just skips it when building list of files that should be migrated16:49
pkoniszewskidanpb: this is what i observed so far16:49
danpbyeah the comment about libvirt 1.2.17 and block migration is irrelevant isn't it16:49
danpbbecause even with old libvirt, it'd ignore the the config drive as it was read-only16:50
pkoniszewskiit is, but anyway im buldining environment to make sure that it is irrelevant16:50
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pkoniszewskiyeah, thats the point16:50
danpbpkoniszewski: so you shouldn't need the version check at all should you ?16:51
pkoniszewskiim almost sure that i don't need it, still want to confirm it16:51
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danpbok16:52
pkoniszewskiwill let you know once i finish testing16:52
pkoniszewskiright now i just wanted to make sure we are on the same page16:52
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danpbpkoniszewski: i wonder if either of the live migration tempest jobs have config drive enabled ?16:53
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danpbpkoniszewski: if not, perhaps you could update the job config to turn on config drive on one of them and make this change dependant on it, so we see proof in the gate that this works now16:54
johnthetubaguytdurakov might know ^16:54
pkoniszewskithat's a good point16:54
danpbjohnthetubaguy: in fact, I think the tempest jobs must *not* have config drive enabled, otherwise theyd be failing with current code16:54
* tdurakov reading16:54
johnthetubaguyeven with vFAT?16:55
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dansmithdanpb: no, I think some do16:55
danpboh true, vfat is allowed16:55
pkoniszewskivfat is allowed, yes16:55
danpbdansmith: specifically the 2 live migration ones i'm thinking of16:55
dansmithdanpb: or did you mean the live migration jobs?16:55
dansmithgotcha16:55
danpbwe should make one use vfat and the other use iso9660 perhaps, so we have converge of both scenarios16:55
pkoniszewskilocal config drive is off in tempest jobs, thats what i see in nova.conf16:55
pkoniszewskihttp://logs.openstack.org/26/292826/9/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-live-migration/0f0184c/logs/etc/nova/nova.conf.txt.gz16:55
pkoniszewskii mean, in llive migration multinode jobs16:56
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mgouldhi everyone, I have a question about the spec language used for scheduler filters16:56
tdurakovpkoniszewski: yes, multinode jobs don't use config drive16:57
openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Replace _create_images_and_backing in _hard_reboot  https://review.openstack.org/33778916:57
openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: All the things  https://review.openstack.org/33779016:57
klindgren__hello - I have a question on how the upgrade_levels stuff works - specifically relating to rabbitmq.  I understand that a message gets sent to the compute node, the compute node will ask for the mession to be downgraded via nova-conductor, conductor will dowgrade it and send it back.16:57
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mgouldshould the test I altered here be passing? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336094/1/nova/tests/unit/scheduler/filters/test_extra_specs_ops.py16:57
pkoniszewskitdurakov: thanks for confirming16:57
tdurakovpkoniszewski: are you going to enable it?\16:58
johnthetubaguypkoniszewski: I think you could do a follow on change to force_config drive, flips the default force_config_drive thing, and check how things go?16:58
klindgren__During this nova-compute -> nova-conductor -> nova-compute process is a temporary rabbitmq queue created for the message to be converted?16:58
klindgren__?16:58
dansmithklindgren__: if this is a usage question, can we take it to -ops?16:58
pkoniszewskitdurakov: probably i will need to to test live migration with read-only config dirive16:58
dansmithklindgren__: I'll go answer you in there16:58
klindgren__sure16:58
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tdurakovpkoniszewski: iso9600?16:58
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pkoniszewskiwe are still merging a lot of stuff without increasing coverage...16:58
pkoniszewskitdurakov: yes16:58
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pkoniszewskijohnthetubaguy: exactly, that's what i want to do16:59
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Correct the network config option help text  https://review.openstack.org/31872616:59
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the network options (3)  https://review.openstack.org/28190116:59
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the network options (4)  https://review.openstack.org/28203916:59
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the network options (2)  https://review.openstack.org/28043816:59
tdurakovpkoniszewski, what if you just create test case where you will boot instance with config drive?17:01
pkoniszewskitdurakov: both are ok i think, through configuration or just boot with iso966017:02
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tdurakovI mean not updating nova conf, as long as iso9600 is default config drive format17:02
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pkoniszewskitdurakov: yes, it is deafult17:04
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tdurakovnew test will be easier, comparing to altering job, imho17:05
tdurakovmriedem: about ci? do we have enough statistics on live-migration job?17:06
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tdurakovcould we move on and try to enable nfs? if it ok I'll update this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329466/17:07
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mriedemtdurakov: it's not good17:09
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mriedemvolume-backed live migration still fails a lot17:09
mriedemdanpb was investigating last week17:09
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PaulMurraymriedem, we need someone with iscsi skills to take a look at that17:10
mriedemPaulMurray: hemna is back from vacation17:10
mriedemcoincidentally17:10
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PaulMurraymriedem, hemna <--- that said hemnavaction earlier17:10
PaulMurray:)17:10
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hemnahey17:16
hemnayah I'm back today17:16
hemnagoing through a week's email's etc.17:16
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hemnaguess I need to get back on the 'looking for a job' thing too...17:17
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openstackgerritRyan Rossiter proposed openstack/nova: Removed enum duplication from nova.compute  https://review.openstack.org/33506617:24
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PaulMurrayhemna, hi, dropped off for a bit there17:30
hemnawhat's up17:32
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PaulMurrayhemna, this has been plaguing out CI for ages17:32
PaulMurrayhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/152489817:32
openstackLaunchpad bug 1524898 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Volume based live migration aborted unexpectedly" [High,Confirmed]17:32
PaulMurrayand danpb managed to track it does to an IO error in kernel coming from iscsi17:33
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PaulMurraylooks like a connection gets dropped somewhere17:33
hemnahumm17:33
hemnathe iscsi session dropped?17:33
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PaulMurraywell, don't know17:34
PaulMurraybut it gets an IO error trying to flush17:34
PaulMurrayits the last thing qemu does at the end of a migration17:34
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PaulMurrayThis is the error we see: Jun 30 14:28:09 ubuntu-xenial-2-node-ovh-gra1-2121639 iscsid[525]: Kernel reported iSCSI connection 1:0 error (1020 - ISCSI_ERR_TCP_CONN_CLOSE: TCP connection closed) state (3)17:35
diana_clarkeAm I allowed to create new flavors in tempest scenerio tests?17:35
hemnaso is this on the source side during teardown ?17:35
PaulMurrayyes17:36
PaulMurrayIt should happen before qemu reports that the migraiton is complete17:36
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PaulMurrayso it should be before nova starts to tear down17:36
PaulMurraybut I wondered if there is some asynchrony going on17:36
hemnahumm17:36
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dansmithdiana_clarke: you should ask that of the tempest people in -qa17:37
hemnaso at some point during the process, the source side disconnects from the cinder volume17:37
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hemnaif qemu tries to flush IO after that, then there be issues17:37
diana_clarkedansmith: okie dokie, thx17:37
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PaulMurrayhemna, danpb attached logs from his test runs to the bug - we don't know if its helpful though17:38
PaulMurrayif there is something we could do that would be more illuminating we could try it out17:39
hemnaI'll have to go through the bug and get my head around it17:40
hemnaand look at the logs17:40
hemnagive me a little bit to check stuff out17:40
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PaulMurraythanks - this has been around for a long time, but we starting to make progress17:41
PaulMurrayso we can be a little patient :)17:41
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openstackgerritPawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: TEST - DO NOT MERGE  https://review.openstack.org/33781017:45
openstackgerritLudovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Fix revert on migration with SR-IOV  https://review.openstack.org/32617417:45
openstackgerritLudovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Raise exception if PCI device spec is not found  https://review.openstack.org/33183017:45
openstackgerritLudovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Allocate PCI devices on migration  https://review.openstack.org/32898317:45
openstackgerritLudovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Update binding:profile for SR-IOV ports  https://review.openstack.org/24257317:45
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openstackgerritEric Brown proposed openstack/nova: Remove spaces around keyword argument  https://review.openstack.org/33677318:00
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ftersindiana_clarke: e.g. see ./tempest/api/compute/admin/test_migrations.py18:05
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diana_clarkeftersin: Yup, I see the flavor creation there (and the cleanup), but I wondered if the scenario tests were special somehow.18:07
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ftersinhmm... i do not see a reason why not to do the same for a scenario18:12
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ftersindiana_clarke: mdbooth said that you were developed a test for resize, which ensures that disks are resized indeed18:13
ftersinis that test merged, or your question relates to the test?18:14
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Job instability resulting from a block storage connectivity error on mirror.iad.rax.openstack.org has been corrected; jobs running in rax-iad should be more reliable again.18:14
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openstackgerritAlexandre Levine proposed openstack/nova: POC Imagebackend complete refactoring. PLEASE DO NOT REVIEW.  https://review.openstack.org/33692118:16
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mtreinishdansmith: mriedem is the #8 code contributor to tempest, so just ask him all the tempest questions18:24
dansmithheh18:24
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openstackgerritMathieu Gagné proposed openstack/nova-specs: Update metadata-service-network-info according to implementation  https://review.openstack.org/33781918:25
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openstackgerritMathieu Gagné proposed openstack/nova-specs: Update metadata-service-network-info according to implementation  https://review.openstack.org/33781918:29
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Sam-I-Ammriedem: moo.18:30
mriedemquack18:30
Sam-I-Ammriedem: got a few mins?18:31
mriedemdepends on the question18:31
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Sam-I-Amwell, its me, so probably docs :)18:31
mriedemshoot18:33
Sam-I-Amfor a while now, and particularly so since the big tent, projects have contributed less and less to the central docs (openstack-manuals)18:34
jaypipesalaski, edleafe-: answered your question on the spec review for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300177/18:34
edleafe-jaypipes: cool, will take a look18:35
Sam-I-Amin some cases, such as the install guide, its been assumed that the docs team handles updating it for every release18:35
Sam-I-Amstuff like that was possible when the docs team was larger and openstack had fewer projects... and they were less complex18:36
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Sam-I-Amfor older projects, a lot of political-ish things created a stigma around central docs contributions... which we've mostly fixed, but its hard to fix stigmas18:37
Sam-I-Amfor newer projects, they often dont have the resources to contribute to a separate repo... and follow all the docs guidelines.18:37
alaskijaypipes: thanks. +218:38
Sam-I-Amdocs are important to the adoption and continued growth of openstack, so we cant let them wither away18:38
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Sam-I-Ammriedem: so, the "question", is does it make sense to move as much documentation as possible into project repos, and primarily use the central docs as a way to bring it all together in a coherent, presentable fashion.18:39
Sam-I-Ammriedem: each project would work with some docs person to help organize and clean up content18:40
Sam-I-Amthus, patches for nova could also contain the docs18:40
Sam-I-Amsame thing we're trying to do for API docs now18:40
Sam-I-Ambecause the centralized version of those failed and are important18:40
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: WIP Create Instance from BuildRequest if not in a cell  https://review.openstack.org/26392718:41
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: instance.name should be blank if instance.id is not set  https://review.openstack.org/32734218:41
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Bump service version for BuildRequest deletion  https://review.openstack.org/33247818:41
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Stop instance build if BuildRequest deleted  https://review.openstack.org/33247918:41
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Refactor block_device_mapping handling during boot  https://review.openstack.org/33409418:41
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Add block_device_mappings to BuildRequest  https://review.openstack.org/33409518:41
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Cells: Handle delete with BuildRequest  https://review.openstack.org/32598518:41
jaypipesany time.18:41
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mriedemSam-I-Am: the nova developer docs usually only work well for targeted things, like the api-ref18:43
mriedemSam-I-Am: things like the install guide would probably not do well, like we had/have a section for setting up a development environment that is probably outdated and pretty bad18:43
mriedemespecially for non-ubuntu distros18:43
mriedemSam-I-Am: having said that, i'm not opposed to hosting more in nova's developer docs18:44
Sam-I-Amwell, it would be separate from dev docs18:44
Sam-I-Amjust in the nova repo18:44
openstackgerritRyan Rossiter proposed openstack/nova: Use ovo in test_obj_make_compatible()  https://review.openstack.org/27229918:44
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mriedemSam-I-Am: the core team gets a bit weird there18:45
mriedemlike i can +2 content,18:45
mriedembut not really mechanics18:45
Sam-I-Amparticular to the install guide, its becoming unsustainable to have nearly zero of the 'core' projects contributing... so the question is how to get projects contributing more operator-oriented docs18:46
Sam-I-Amwhat do you mean by mechanics?18:46
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mriedemlike wadl files18:47
mriedemwhatever things are needed to write/build the docs18:47
mriedemconventions, etc18:47
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Sam-I-Amah18:47
Sam-I-Amwell, thats where docs folks come in18:47
Sam-I-Amand docs liaisons18:48
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Sam-I-Amdocs folks are good at organizing and presenting docs, but we're unable to handle the load of all openstack projects18:48
Sam-I-Amso devs write the content or update the appropriate docs, then work with a docs person to fix it up18:49
Sam-I-Amthe docs are still sphinx/rst, like the devref18:49
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mriedemSam-I-Am: i think it's a fine idea, i'm not sure how many nova devs are going to be signing up for docs content writing though18:50
mriedemso i'm not sure it's going to solve the problem18:50
mriedemwe can't get people to triage bugs either18:50
mriedemprobably the most successful thing we have right now is release notes18:51
mriedembut that's also in part because the are (1) mostly unorganized and (2) in tree - so i could see how having the docs in tree could help there18:51
mriedemit's much easier to update the docs inline with your change than have a DocImpact bug in the weeds that no one ever fixes18:51
mriedemand our api-ref/rest api docs18:52
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mriedemanyway, i think it's fine, will be slow going, but anything new is18:52
mriedemwe'd really probably also need a docs scrub sprint just to clear out what's wrong in the docs today, and know what's missing18:53
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mriedembtw, me fail english, unpossible18:56
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openstackgerritPeter Hamilton proposed openstack/nova: Add certificate signature verification  https://review.openstack.org/33182318:58
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Sam-I-Ammriedem: i dont think devs really 'sign up' to write docs... its more like docs come with the patches, hence easier review/merging.19:06
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openstackgerritWalter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/nova: config option: rename libvirt iscsi_use_multipath  https://review.openstack.org/33135719:07
dansmithmriedem: jaypipes: so at one point we were at "just use flask" but it seems like the current patches are taking the un-cola approach19:07
dansmithI don't remember that conversation and my therapist has told me to block this stuff out19:07
Sam-I-Ammriedem: i'm thinking that having multiple bugs/patches to track (and often losing/forgetting the docs parts) is a burden19:07
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dansmithare we back to just doin' it raw style?19:07
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Sam-I-Amrelease notes are meh, imo19:08
Sam-I-Amthey look ok individually, but tend to be confusing when aggregrated... often because of bad writing that doesnt convey the information well. or worse, they conflict.19:09
Sam-I-Amrelease notes dont tell people how to configure nova19:09
Sam-I-Amor how to use it19:09
Sam-I-Amthose are the docs that are getting out of date19:09
openstackgerritPavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: Microversion 2.34 adds keypairs pagination support  https://review.openstack.org/28486819:10
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mriedemdansmith: i think sdague and cdent got back around to custom wsgi19:11
mriedembarring major issues with that, no flask19:11
pkholkinmriedem: combined docs with the main patch19:11
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mriedemdansmith: we wanted to drop the new lib cdent was adding,19:12
mriedemdrop the routes stuff he had in there19:12
mriedemand something else, error handling i think - there were like 4 todos for cdent when we talked about it19:12
dansmithmriedem: but the routes stuff is in19:12
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mriedemit was a workaround19:12
mriedemcdent was going to remove it19:12
dansmithI think I should probably just not review these19:13
mriedemSam-I-Am: yeah i realize, but release notes are written by devs, which is what you're going to get if nova devs own the docs conent19:13
mriedem*content19:13
mriedemdansmith: heh19:13
Sam-I-Ammriedem: true, but they arent vetted by a docs person either. i try to review relnotes for a good chunk of more significant neutron patches, and i think it helps a lot.19:14
Sam-I-Amnot saying we throw docs responsibility all to devs, i'm just grasping at ways to make contributions easier... i'd rather have some relevant content (that we can always improve later) than nothing19:15
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mriedemSam-I-Am: i'll also point out that api-ref is going well because sdague is beating that drum and actually cares about it19:20
mriedemif no one cares about install guide docs in the docs repo, moving them to nova doesn't mean anyone is going to care about them here either19:21
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Sam-I-Ammriedem: i'm also open to suggestions. the ultimate goal is reversing the current situation with docs. it almost seems like projects have become more silo'd, hence caring less about the deployability/usability of openstack as a whole, not just a bunch of loosely-related projects19:21
mriedemi bet most of the nice install guides for the distros reside with the vendor distro products19:21
dansmithmriedem: and, once they're a certain amount of out-of-date, we're just going to delete them :)19:21
mriedemdansmith: we probably have a ton of out of date stuff in the devref19:22
dansmithmriedem: and we should go delete it19:22
openstackgerritSTEW TY proposed openstack/nova: Body Verification of api-ref os-volume-attachments.inc  https://review.openstack.org/33633419:22
dansmithmriedem: my point is, we have general cycles of care..not care..delete19:22
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Sam-I-Amvendor distro products vary quite a bit19:22
mriedeme.g. i noticed at one point we didn't have anything in the docs about configuring computes for ssh for migrations19:23
mriedembut knew the ibm distro docs had something about that19:23
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mriedemso i pushed our 2 docs writers to see if they get contribute something upstream for that19:23
Sam-I-Amthe main problem is that most of them have "push button" installs that dont teach people how openstack actually works. when it inevitably breaks, they're stuck.19:23
openstackgerritPawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: TEST - DO NOT MERGE  https://review.openstack.org/33781019:23
mriedembut like red hat and others already had that topic covered in their docs19:23
mriedemSam-I-Am: that's what the support contract is for :)19:23
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Sam-I-Amyou're assuming people want to pay for openstack19:24
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dansmithlol19:24
dansmithwe're kindof all assuming that all the time19:24
dansmithhoping even19:24
Sam-I-Ama lot of people want to do everything in-house, and ideally we would be teaching people how to install from source, not particularly relying on any distro19:25
Sam-I-Amdistro packages as a disaster19:25
dansmithyou lost me there19:25
Sam-I-Amas/are19:25
Sam-I-Amdansmith: where?19:25
mriedemlike pip install nova on RHEL?19:25
dansmithSam-I-Am: good point, you never really had me.. :)19:25
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mriedemor install nova in containers on rhel?19:25
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Sam-I-Ammriedem: probably try to agree on the easiest way to install multiple projects without screwing up the others... so venvs, maybe containers, pip, etc.19:26
mriedembut there are also projects that automate that19:26
mriedemwhich is kind of the point of those projects existing19:26
Sam-I-Amyes, but automation does not teach19:27
Sam-I-Amit just deploys19:27
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mriedemwell, it teaches you how to fix your automation scripts when they break19:27
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Sam-I-Amthe purpose of the install guide is not a production installation, its teaching people how openstack works, so when they go use something like openstack-ansible, they're not completely in the dark19:27
mriedems/teaches/forces/19:27
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mriedemSam-I-Am: if that's the case, i'd say it should focus on one distro19:28
mriedemprobably the one we use in the gate19:28
Sam-I-Amyeah, i agree. but that's been shot down many times.19:28
mriedemand the foundation should pay actual humans real money for a living to work on those19:28
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Sam-I-Amthe install guides are by far the most read of all openstack docs19:29
Sam-I-Amubuntu being #119:29
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mriedemi'm not saying we should drop them,19:29
mriedemi just don't have a great answer for getting contributors19:29
Sam-I-Amthe reason we even talk about distros is because distro packages happen to be familiar territory for most linux users. a good chunk of people i help out have no idea what pip is, or often python, and dont really care. they just want to deploy a PoC.19:30
mriedemSam-I-Am: but shouldn't you be teaching them about pip?19:30
mriedemsee what i did there?19:30
Sam-I-Ampeople trying to deploy openstack do not assume they have to be developers too19:30
Sam-I-Amyeah :)19:30
Sam-I-Amif we un-distro it, we do end up teaching them about pip. frankly, most good deployment tools should be using source, not distro packages.19:31
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Sam-I-Amproblem with changing the install guide to source is a) increased complexity (whether we like it or not) and b) not enough resources to maintain it (remember, docs folks are usually not developers).19:32
Sam-I-Amof course, agreeing on a source install method is another can of worms19:32
openstackgerritMathieu Gagné proposed openstack/nova-specs: Update metadata-service-network-info according to implementation  https://review.openstack.org/33781919:32
Sam-I-Ambut really, this conversation shouldnt focus on the install guide. it should focus on all operator-oriented docs.19:32
Sam-I-Amadmin guide content, user guide content, etc19:33
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Sam-I-Amopenstack is big enough that it cant really shrug off docs as rtfc19:33
Sam-I-Ambecause our audience is increasingly non-developer people who expect a product, not a series of loosely-related science experiments19:33
mriedemSam-I-Am: shouldn't the foundation pay someone to do that then?19:34
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mriedempeople that expect a product pay for it don't they?19:34
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mriedemthe foundation gets $ from corporations19:34
mriedemlike thingee being the foundation guy trying to herd the cp cats19:34
Sam-I-Am'open source' usually correlates as 'free' to c-levels19:34
Sam-I-Amfrankly all projects/products, open source or not, should have docs.19:35
Sam-I-Ami dont see why nova cant have people who work on those19:35
mriedemi don't disagree19:35
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Sam-I-Amor any project, for that matter.19:35
mriedemSam-I-Am: i can't tell 5 random people that pushed a nova change once to go work on docs19:36
mriedemjust as much as i can't tell people to review code or triage bugs19:36
mriedemit takes people that actually care about it19:36
mriedemthat's why api-ref is doing well in nova, because sdague and others really really care about those19:36
mriedemand drive it19:36
Sam-I-Amneutron has done a pretty good job of turning their "un-docs" ship around19:36
Sam-I-Amits been a coordinated effort between the ptl, core reviewers, and the docs team (mostly me)19:37
mriedemmaybe they should hold a session in barcelona on how they did that19:37
Sam-I-Amnetworking is hard, so lets fix it.19:37
Sam-I-Amwell, no docs no merge was a start19:37
Sam-I-Amand neutron devs learning they could tag me to help out with the docs parts of their patches, or tell anyone on the docs team to review docs-specific patches.19:37
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mriedemyeah i get that, frankly i'm annoying when it comes to reno and config option help19:38
mriedembut i'm not every reviwer19:38
Sam-I-Amannoying as in picky?19:38
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mriedemyes19:38
Sam-I-Amconfig option help is super important19:38
mriedemjust today https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199488/16//COMMIT_MSG@2819:38
Sam-I-Amin neutron, i review from the standpoint of not knowing the code, so its like a set of fresh eyes. then i usually rewrite it to make sense to most people.19:39
mriedemyeah i try to do the same19:39
mriedem'what does this mean to the operator reading this'19:40
Sam-I-Amyeah19:40
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Sam-I-Ama lot of this stuff is unfortunately subjective, but if enough core reviewers get on the train, and involve some docs folks specifically for the docs bits... maybe it helps?19:40
Sam-I-Amfrankly good config option descs are almost better than conventional docs19:41
Sam-I-Amspeaking of conf option strings, i was pushing to have two types - short and long. short go into the example config files to keep the length and clutter down, and long go into the config reference docs19:43
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Sam-I-Ammriedem: i dont really have a solution, just suggestions based on the idea that docs are an important component to the success of openstack. at this point, its whatever method helps the projects contribute more rather than assuming the docs team just handles it.19:48
Sam-I-Amdocs has done a lot of work trying to reduce the barriers... changing from docbook to sphinx/rst, moving the api docs to in-tree and ditching wadl, etc.19:48
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mriedemclaudiub|2: is there any integration testing for NUMA + hyperv? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282407/20:06
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Sam-I-Ammriedem: so what do we do?20:09
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mriedemSam-I-Am: i'm trying to chug through FFEs for newton today. if you have a proposal, can you post that in the dev list for nova and then we can get it on the agenda for the nova meetup in a few weeks?20:13
mriedemcarl_baldwin and armax will be at the meetup so they can share their experience too20:14
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mriedemSam-I-Am: but right now i'm a bit hazy on specifics, so put those into a proposal in the dev list20:14
mriedemi'm generally favorable of sharing/owning more docs in nova, but also generally pessimistic as a default20:15
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Sam-I-Ammriedem: i might be able to do that. sort of applies to all projects, i was just trying nova first :)20:15
Sam-I-Ami was going to talk to a couple other ptls20:15
Sam-I-Amwhen/where is this nova meetup? can it be on the schedule without my presence?20:16
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mriedemjuly 19-21 in hillsboro, OR20:18
mriedemyes it can be on the agenda w/o you20:18
mriedemhence the proposal in the ML20:18
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Sam-I-Ammriedem: aight. does it make sense to have one project discuss it, or all projects? maybe the discussion for the meetup would be more along the lines of talking to armax and carl about how neutron is working on docs... sort of get people thinking about changes rather than making them20:21
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Sam-I-Ammriedem: i'm not the docs ptl, thus may not share the same views as the docs ptl.20:21
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mriedemSam-I-Am: in the interest of time i'd say start small20:23
mriedemwith nova talking about it and hearing neutron's experiences20:23
mriedembut this also really sounds like something the docs team should be pushing as xp in barcelona20:23
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mriedemkashyap: ha, stable/liberty requirements shit makes keystone not start20:26
mriedemthis is why i don't like blindly bumping stuff in stable/liberty g-r :)20:26
mriedemhttp://logs.openstack.org/82/337782/3/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/849aefd/logs/apache/keystone.txt.gz#_2016-07-05_17_28_48_41716020:26
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Sam-I-Ammriedem: as far as docs is concerned, the api ref and install guide are experiments to see how well it goes. api ref is sort of a no-brainer, but install guide is unique enough where i dont think it was a good first choice.20:26
Sam-I-Ammriedem: the key is convincing docs to take more of an organizational/presentation role rather than contributing content20:27
Sam-I-Amthats the hard part20:27
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add Allocation and AllocationList objects  https://review.openstack.org/28244220:28
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add support for resource inventories to placement API  https://review.openstack.org/32915220:28
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add initial framing of placement API  https://review.openstack.org/32914920:28
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add a Usage and UsageList object  https://review.openstack.org/32957520:28
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add support for resource_providers urls  https://review.openstack.org/32915120:28
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add support for usages in the placement API  https://review.openstack.org/32964320:28
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: WIP experiment with the remainder of the placement API  https://review.openstack.org/29310420:28
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Improve 404 and 405 response tests  https://review.openstack.org/33148320:28
mriedemSam-I-Am: you also need someone like sdague that is zealous about it like he is about api-ref20:28
mriedemand just doesn't shut up or go away about it20:28
mriedemexcept for his monthly vacation this month, of course20:29
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Sam-I-Ammriedem: yeah. maybe i should talk to him... in august?20:31
mriedemheh, he'll be at the meetup20:31
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mriedemjust get your proposal stated in the dev list and we'll go from there20:31
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mriedemclaudiub|2: is this done? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyperv-fibre-channel20:32
mriedemlpetrut: ^?20:32
clarkbmriedem: does one need to sign up for midcycle or just show up? I figure I should go since its local20:32
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mriedemclarkb: signing up would be ideal b/c we're having space / accomodation issues20:33
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mriedemunless you want to host?20:33
clarkbhost as in hack in my backyard?20:33
Sam-I-Ammriedem: do you know when his vacation ends?20:33
mriedemSam-I-Am: he's out for 2 weeks20:33
mriedemand then we have the midcycle20:34
lpetrutmriedem: nope, at first, the whole change was within the scope of Nova. Now it's waiting for the according os-brick connector to get in.20:34
Sam-I-Amslackers :)20:34
mriedemclarkb: or garage, or basement20:34
mriedemlpetrut: is there a patch for os-brick?20:34
Sam-I-Ammriedem: aight, i might shoot him an e-mail to get more people on board... or at least spur discussion20:34
Sam-I-Amanyone else you can think of?20:34
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lpetrutmriedem: yep, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323780/20:35
mriedemlpetrut: not really from the nova side20:35
mriedemSam-I-Am: btw, i'm not say sdague is all about docs in general20:35
clarkbmriedem: I probably dont have enough space if jfcc is too small.I am not finding sign up page. Wiki amd etherpad not helping20:35
mriedemi'm just using sean as an example of someone that got something done by owning and driving it and caring about it20:35
clarkbamyways thinking I can help with live migration maybe20:35
lpetrutmriedem: this is the nova patch, using the new Windows os-brick connectors: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273504/20:36
mriedemclarkb: the rsvp thingy is closed, what days were you thinking?20:36
Sam-I-Ammriedem: i'm looking for people who care about the future of openstack, and whatever we need to do for it. not just docs, but docs are increasingly important.20:37
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clarkbmriedem: any? mostly just trying to help I know there are current struggles with live migration20:38
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mriedemclarkb: ok, i think just showing up will be OK20:43
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clarkbif it isnt thats fine too. I dont have any agenda worst case I go get lunch in hillsboro20:45
mriedemclarkb: infra people are always welcome20:45
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mriedemplus mtreinish might need some backup20:45
mtreinishheh20:46
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dansmithjaypipes: jroll: if this is a thing required for resource providers, it needs to have the blueprint created and dependified with that other stuff: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320016/20:47
dansmithotherwise it looks like a random thing20:47
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mtreinishmriedem: we'll see how jetlagged I am on the ground in pdx. I might need a fair amount of backup20:47
jrolldansmith: -w'd to remind me to do so20:48
mriedemjetlagged from what?20:48
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dansmithjroll: cool20:48
mtreinishmriedem: I'm leaving for Japan on Thurs. for linuxcon japan20:49
mtreinishI'm heading straight to portland from there20:49
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mriedemmtreinish: cripes20:50
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mriedemmtreinish: i'll let jaypipes know he needs to make room for the other BFD in the room20:50
jaypipesmriedem: noted.20:51
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mtreinishmriedem: haha, I dunno he's a director of engineering. I'm not sure I can compete with that20:52
jaypipesdansmith: well, it's kind of the other way around :) resource-providers work actually makes that blueprint possible...20:52
dansmithjaypipes: you said to me a few minutes ago that we should review this because it's required/covered under resource-providers :)20:53
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dansmithjaypipes: "everything that is enabled by resource providers" is probably more than we can review before newton :)20:53
jaypipesdansmith: heh, touche.20:53
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mriedemha20:55
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mriedemi'm pretty sure we can't land anything until we know there won't be a giant fireball of suck from jpenick20:55
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dansmithwords that will live forever in infamy20:56
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mriedemjaypipes: "While I recognize the pci_passthrough_whitelist CONF option is a stepchild of Satan"21:11
mriedemexcellent21:11
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dansmithheh, yeah saw that this morning21:16
dansmithI used several scatalogical references which were not appropriate for codification in the review21:16
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claudiub|2mriedem: hi. it's up for review, but not merged.21:18
claudiub|2mriedem: waiting for 2 patches on os-brick.21:19
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mriedemclaudiub|2: yeah saw that21:19
mriedemclaudiub|2: how about numa testing for hyperv?21:19
mriedemfor https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282407/21:19
mriedemfor libvirt we at least have the intel nfv CI21:19
mriedemthat tests numa, huge pages and cpu pinning21:19
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mriedemdansmith: alaski: johnthetubaguy: final set for review tomorrow, starts at L40 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-newton-non-priority-ffe21:20
mriedemjust fyi21:20
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alaskicool, looks like it should be quick21:22
claudiub|2mriedem: aham. I'll take a look at what tests we can run for it. but the numa configuration on hyper-v is not as customizable as on libvirt. you can basically say on how many numa nodes an instance can span / how many cpus or memory per numa node.21:22
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mriedemclaudiub|2: note that the intel nfv ci isn't running tempest tests really, it's like a tempest plugin21:23
mriedemwith a few tests i think21:23
mriedemwell, maybe not, i get confused with all of the nfv jobs21:23
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mriedemi think it actually does run tempest tests but with special flavors21:23
claudiub|2oh, hm, i see. well, we can at least run test_minimum_scenario with a numa flavor, i guess.21:24
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claudiub|2and maybe live-migration?21:24
claudiub|2although.. we might need to do some work on the hyper-v ci for this21:24
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claudiub|2the hosts have to be configured to disable numa spanning by default21:25
hemnaclaudiub|2, what are you waiting on ?21:28
claudiub|2hemna: you mean for the fibre channel stuff?21:28
hemnawas just skimming the channel and noticed you said you were waiting for 2 os-brick patches ?21:29
claudiub|2hemna: there are 2 pending reviews on os-brick for it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323780/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/32378121:29
hemnaok21:29
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hemnaI'll check them out21:29
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claudiub|2hemna: yeah, only those 2 remained. the rest merged, so ~70% of the code is merged on os-brick.21:30
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hemnaok did a quick review21:31
hemnawe need release notes added for both of those please21:31
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hemnaclaudiub|2, http://docs.openstack.org/developer/reno/usage.html#creating-new-release-notes21:31
claudiub|2hemna: cool. will do them asap.21:31
hemnathanks!21:32
claudiub|2np. :)21:32
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claudiub|2mriedem: one question: are we going to continue with the python3 patches after N-2? I think it would be nice, for what it's worth, we might actually end up with python-3 compatibility for nova-compute21:35
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claudiub|2mriedem: from my tests in mitaka with all the patches I still had, did a tempest run, had 20 failures out of ~1600 tests.21:36
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mriedemclaudiub|2: i think so21:38
mriedembut it's kind of an open question on some of that cleanup stuff21:38
mriedemwe might see where we're at on some of those efforts at the midcycle21:38
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Archive migrations table  https://review.openstack.org/32368422:19
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Return 400 when SecurityGroupCannotBeApplied is raised  https://review.openstack.org/32333222:19
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Add a hacking rule for string interpolation at logging  https://review.openstack.org/33484422:20
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add Allocation and AllocationList objects  https://review.openstack.org/28244222:39
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add support for resource inventories to placement API  https://review.openstack.org/32915222:39
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add a ResourceProviderList object  https://review.openstack.org/32830722:39
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add initial framing of placement API  https://review.openstack.org/32914922:39
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add a Usage and UsageList object  https://review.openstack.org/32957522:39
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add support for resource_providers urls  https://review.openstack.org/32915122:39
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add support for usages in the placement API  https://review.openstack.org/32964322:39
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: WIP experiment with the remainder of the placement API  https://review.openstack.org/29310422:39
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Improve 404 and 405 response tests  https://review.openstack.org/33148322:39
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openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/nova: Enable deferred IP on Neutron ports  https://review.openstack.org/29959122:46
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openstackgerritLudovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Fix revert on migration with SR-IOV  https://review.openstack.org/32617423:03
openstackgerritLudovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Raise exception if PCI device spec is not found  https://review.openstack.org/33183023:03
openstackgerritLudovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Allocate PCI devices on migration  https://review.openstack.org/32898323:03
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Clean up service version history comments  https://review.openstack.org/33792223:58

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