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| mriedem | the live migration job also fails with xenial nodes when setting up ceph http://logs.openstack.org/86/327886/2/experimental/gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-live-migration/a7c62d7/console.html#_2016-06-09_23_03_52_376 | 00:16 |
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| mtreinish | mriedem: you just can't win | 00:20 |
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| mriedem | mtreinish: that's after skipping nfs setup in that job | 00:20 |
| mriedem | just biding my time while checking out the get-me-a-network failures | 00:21 |
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| mriedem | mtreinish: so that tags schema response failure, that was added in 2.26 | 00:21 |
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| mriedem | so i'm assuming i just need a schema response for 2.26 | 00:21 |
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| mriedem | well, min 2.26 max - latest | 00:22 |
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| mriedem | which would be used by my 2.31 test | 00:22 |
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| mtreinish | mriedem: I wonder if it's because of the systemd move in 16.04 (I think I read they did that) so all the commands are different | 00:22 |
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| mtreinish | mriedem: yeah I think you need to have the schema updated for the intermediate stuff | 00:22 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: you can ask gmann to confirm though | 00:22 |
| mriedem | yeah {'min': '2.19', 'max': None, 'schema': schemav219}] | 00:24 |
| mtreinish | most of that strict validation stuff I treat as a black box. But I know they had to start versioning the response schemas in tempest with the introduction of microversions | 00:24 |
| mriedem | i se it | 00:24 |
| mriedem | so, i should probably do this as a dependent change | 00:24 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: I'd only bother with that if you were adding a dedicated 2.26 test | 00:24 |
| mtreinish | but maybe others will disagree with my opinion there | 00:24 |
| mriedem | well, i need it for the 2.31 response | 00:25 |
| mriedem | because the latest in tempest is 2.19 | 00:25 |
| mriedem | but 2.26 adds tags in the response | 00:25 |
| mriedem | so 2.31 is using the 2.26 response format really | 00:25 |
| mriedem | for server GET anyway | 00:25 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: right I followed that. I was saying no need to make it 2 patches unless you wanted to add the >=2.26 schema with a test for using tags | 00:25 |
| mriedem | oh | 00:25 |
| mtreinish | otherwise I would just update the schema as part of testing 2.31 | 00:25 |
| mriedem | alright | 00:26 |
| mriedem | yeah i'm not adding a tags test, not necessary for tempest | 00:26 |
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| gmann | mriedem: mtreinish : yea old version schema needs to be updated for thsoe | 00:29 |
| mriedem | ye olde would be cooler | 00:29 |
| mriedem | like a renaissance festival | 00:29 |
| gmann | mriedem: you can just update show server schema in same patch by adding u'tags' | 00:29 |
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| mriedem | gmann: yeah, show and list i think | 00:30 |
| gmann | mriedem: yea detail list | 00:30 |
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| gmann | mriedem: example we did for v20 tests - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258391/ | 00:32 |
| mriedem | yeah that's what i'm looking at now | 00:33 |
| mriedem | so copy the 2.19 schema for 2.26 and modify list and show to have tags in it | 00:33 |
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| gmann | mriedem: yea as of now. later i need to re factor those schema to not have inheritance to make those more readable | 00:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Brown proposed openstack/nova: Fix config option types https://review.openstack.org/168481 | 00:51 |
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| mriedem | alright, think i figured out my min_count schema failure too | 01:07 |
| mriedem | good thing i wrote that test | 01:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Add REST API support for get me a network https://review.openstack.org/316398 | 01:17 |
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| mriedem | gmann: does this look correct? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327191/6/tempest/lib/api_schema/response/compute/v2_26/servers.py | 01:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Added support for new block device format in vmops https://review.openstack.org/246299 | 01:24 |
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| gmann | mriedem: looks fine but why we need update_server schema etc in v226? do you call server update/rebuild in get-me-network tests | 01:28 |
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| gmann | mriedem: anyways get/detail schema are correct. i will check complete patch. | 01:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Li Yingjun proposed openstack/nova: Pagination for hypervisors https://review.openstack.org/326940 | 01:37 |
| gmann | mriedem: i see, later those can be used and v226 schema can have latest version of those. Thanks | 01:37 |
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| mriedem | gmann: yeah the client code looks like it's just using that entire schema module | 01:44 |
| mriedem | so update/rebuild are part of that | 01:44 |
| tonyb | mriedem: If you're still around Are we goign to take the extraordinary step and bump the minimum associated with Ifc670dbe696afe8f0e04a0aa90f6af2aa8cfea9d ? | 01:44 |
| gmann | mriedem: yea | 01:44 |
| mriedem | tonyb: that was discussed in -dev earlier today, | 01:45 |
| mriedem | i brought up a thread from last october where we had the same issue and the consensus in that thread was we didn't need to bump the minimum version in g-r | 01:46 |
| mriedem | b/c the ossa would say which patches and versions of things were needed for the fix | 01:46 |
| mriedem | sdague didn't really agree with that, he thought it made more sense to require the minimum version of oslo.concurrency in nova mitaka to resolve the cve | 01:46 |
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| mriedem | which i understand, but we've not raised the minimum dep version in g-r in the past for the same kind of issue, so i don't really want to change that now | 01:47 |
| mriedem | basically i'd like us to just be consistent with this stuff whatever we do | 01:47 |
| mriedem | rather than re-debate it every 6 months | 01:47 |
| mriedem | tonyb: the other reqs change for this was here btw https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327683/ | 01:49 |
| tonyb | mriedem: Yeah that isn't even remotely okay | 01:50 |
| tonyb | mriedem: wont nova blow up horribly on 3.7.0 with 326327 | 01:50 |
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| * tonyb is very confused. | 01:51 | |
| mriedem | tonyb: actually no | 01:51 |
| mriedem | nova is using a kwarg param that already exists in oslo.concurrency 3.7.0 | 01:51 |
| mriedem | actually since 3.4.0 | 01:51 |
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| mriedem | so nova doesn't blow up, but w/o oslo.concurrency 3.7.1 you don't have the cve fix | 01:51 |
| mriedem | but that would be in the ossa and people that care should be reading those and patching their packages (in a distro) or updating dependencies as necessary | 01:52 |
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| tonyb | mriedem: okay I'll go verify it 'cause I'd really think that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326327/3/nova/virt/images.py@42 would trigger https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327774/1/oslo_concurrency/processutils.py@167 | 01:53 |
| mriedem | tonyb: oh i didn't see that | 01:55 |
| mriedem | so they fail if you pass in unexpected keys | 01:56 |
| tonyb | mriedem: that's how I read it | 01:56 |
| tonyb | so I *think* we have a gap in our testing if that nova chnage is passing on 3.7.0 | 01:57 |
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| * tonyb is attempting to verify | 01:57 | |
| mriedem | the nova change is dependent on the g-r and u-c bump | 01:57 |
| mriedem | so it's testing against 3.8.0 | 01:57 |
| mriedem | which is why it works | 01:57 |
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| mriedem | anyway, you've got sharp eyes mr breeds | 01:59 |
| mriedem | i dropped my -1 | 01:59 |
| mriedem | kashyap's requirements repo change would need to be rebased once the dimsbot change lands | 01:59 |
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| oomichi | alex_xu: hi, maybe you prefer https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327302/ :-) how about ? | 03:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hieu LE proposed openstack/nova: Config options: improve libvirt help text (1) https://review.openstack.org/316539 | 06:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rajesh Tailor proposed openstack/nova: Trivial-Fix: Fix typos https://review.openstack.org/328131 | 07:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/328133 | 07:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dao Cong Tien proposed openstack/nova: Stop using mox from compute/test_used_limits.py https://review.openstack.org/323226 | 07:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Prateek Arora proposed openstack/nova: Isolate conf params for iSCSI and FC multipath https://review.openstack.org/310679 | 08:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/nova: Make instance as second arg in compute api calls https://review.openstack.org/327713 | 08:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/303345 | 08:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/nova: Make instance as second arg in compute api calls https://review.openstack.org/327713 | 08:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dao Cong Tien proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Ironic Driver: override get_serial_console() https://review.openstack.org/328157 | 08:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: added docs for microversion 2.26 https://review.openstack.org/327089 | 08:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Added missed response to test_server_tags https://review.openstack.org/327088 | 08:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: verify assisted-volume-snapshots.inc https://review.openstack.org/326975 | 08:25 |
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| kashyap | mriedem: Okay, Tony baked the noodle. Err, Tony rebased the requirements change. | 08:38 |
| kashyap | Oh, mriedem's nick isn't here. Somehow my IRC client (irssi) says it is. | 08:38 |
| kashyap | tonyb: Thanks for rebasing that. | 08:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Murray proposed openstack/nova: Add console auth tokens table and model https://review.openstack.org/319327 | 08:43 |
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| gibi | johnthetubaguy: hi! thanks for the feedback. Do you have a minute to talk about fake_notifier.stub_notifier comment of yours? | 08:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Murray proposed openstack/nova: Add console auth tokens db api methods https://review.openstack.org/319964 | 08:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/nova: Make host as second arg in compute api calls https://review.openstack.org/328179 | 08:55 |
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| kashyap | Can anyone w +W on requirements repo, bless this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328042/ | 09:14 |
| kashyap | s/w/with/ | 09:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | gibi: sorry, missed your note | 09:22 |
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| johnthetubaguy | gibi: yeah, not quite sure the best way forward with that myself, maybe we can add a new method that calls stub_out instead? | 09:23 |
| gmann | johnthetubaguy: can you look into these all extensions one - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/api-sample-tests-with-all-extensions | 09:23 |
| gmann | johnthetubaguy: after those all work for all extension in sample tests is done | 09:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | gmann: can't get to that right away, but will try get there later | 09:24 |
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| gmann | johnthetubaguy: sure, no prob | 09:24 |
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| gmann | alex_xu: oomichi ^^ | 09:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Always call port_update in allocate_for_instance https://review.openstack.org/326970 | 09:28 |
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| gibi | johnthetubaguy: I'm putting a commit together that will replace stub.Set with stub_out in fake_notifier. Trivial change. This way we can keep the fake_notifier.stub_notifier call just pass the test in instead of stubs | 09:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add set_inventory() method on ResourceProvider https://review.openstack.org/326440 | 09:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Transfrom wrap_exception notification to versioned format https://review.openstack.org/310700 | 09:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Enhance notification sample test base https://review.openstack.org/321610 | 09:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Handle multiple samples per versioned notification https://review.openstack.org/321609 | 09:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Transform instance.update notification https://review.openstack.org/325923 | 09:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Transform instance.delete notifications https://review.openstack.org/313654 | 09:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Stop using mox stubs in tests/unit/fake_notifier https://review.openstack.org/328197 | 09:34 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy: what do you think about this solution https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328197 ? | 09:34 |
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| andrearosa | non-priority spec implementation is ready: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/detach-boot-volume reviews are welcome. | 09:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi: that great, thank you! | 09:36 |
| mnestratov | mne | 09:36 |
| mnestratov | oops :) - ignore please | 09:36 |
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| gibi | johnthetubaguy: thank you for helping my patches merged! | 09:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi: no worries, thats important stuff | 09:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/os-vif: ovs: Avoids setting MTU if MTU is None or 0 https://review.openstack.org/327993 | 09:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Added functional tests for server tags. https://review.openstack.org/328211 | 09:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Added functional tests for server tags (microverison 2.26) https://review.openstack.org/328211 | 09:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: rest api version bumped for async pre live migration checks https://review.openstack.org/314932 | 10:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: Make live migration checks async https://review.openstack.org/311116 | 10:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: Added instance actions for conductor https://review.openstack.org/311115 | 10:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: added docs for microversion 2.26 https://review.openstack.org/327089 | 10:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Added missed response to test_server_tags https://review.openstack.org/327088 | 10:01 |
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| sean-k-mooney | danpb: regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327993/3 im going to open a bug to cover the mtu check for linux bridge then im happy to change my +1 to a +2 i just dont want to miss the other changes that were part of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287709/ | 10:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/nova: Apply cell context in compute API https://review.openstack.org/322181 | 10:07 |
| danpb | ok | 10:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/303345 | 10:10 |
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| ratailor | for nova resize, what changes we need to do, if someone has manually changed the ram in db | 10:17 |
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| ratailor | and system metadata as well. | 10:17 |
| ratailor | Can anybody help me | 10:17 |
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| ratailor | johnthetubaguy, Can you help me | 10:23 |
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| ratailor | johnthetubaguy, If someone want to resize a vm, and in that case, he updated flavor info using db queries and update system metadata also using db queries on instance. | 10:24 |
| ratailor | Then he restarted it, and now the memory_mb_used property is not as expected in hypervisor stats output. | 10:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | why did the update the DB, I am confused? | 10:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | did they^ | 10:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/nova: Make instance as second arg in compute api calls https://review.openstack.org/327713 | 10:26 |
| ratailor | someone did, is there any way to get out of this ? | 10:26 |
| ratailor | or put things on right direction here onwards. | 10:26 |
| ratailor | ? | 10:26 |
| claudiub|2 | danpb: sean-k-mooney: thanks for the fast review.:) | 10:26 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ratailor: ah, gotcha, best bet is just to reset things back to what they where, then call the resize API to do whats needed | 10:27 |
| ratailor | johnthetubaguy, sure, thanks! | 10:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: rest api version bumped for async pre live migration checks https://review.openstack.org/314932 | 10:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: Make live migration checks async https://review.openstack.org/311116 | 10:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: Added instance actions for conductor https://review.openstack.org/311115 | 10:28 |
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| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: hi, if you have some time, please review^ | 10:35 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: ah, cool, putting it on my list, although trying to get some of this neutorn v2 refactor stuff sorted today | 10:40 |
| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: links for neutron v2 please? | 10:41 |
| * tdurakov interested to review too | 10:41 | |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: sure thing: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/prep-for-network-aware-scheduling | 10:42 |
| tdurakov | thanks, starred patches | 10:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Added functional tests for server tags (microverison 2.26) https://review.openstack.org/328211 | 10:49 |
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| sean-k-mooney | claudiub|2: no worries. when we swap nova to useing os-vif for ovs and lb we do not want to have any regressions in functionality. | 10:51 |
| sean-k-mooney | claudiub|2: loseing support for ovs on windows would be a regression in my book | 10:52 |
| claudiub|2 | sean-k-mooney: indeed. looking forward to it, we need it as well in nova. :) | 10:53 |
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| claudiub|2 | sean-k-mooney: speaking of which, is there an estimation of when that will happen? | 10:53 |
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| sean-k-mooney | claudiub|2: danpb would be better able to answer that then i but his latest patchset is now passing the gate | 10:54 |
| sean-k-mooney | claudiub|2: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269672/ | 10:55 |
| claudiub|2 | sean-k-mooney: oh, sounds good. I'd say it should happen any day now. | 10:55 |
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| sdague | gmann: is this done now - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/api-sample-tests-with-all-extensions ? | 10:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrea Rosa proposed openstack/nova: Enabling detach root volume for shelved_offloaded https://review.openstack.org/326899 | 11:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrea Rosa proposed openstack/nova: Attach/detach root volume for shelved_offloaded https://review.openstack.org/317446 | 11:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrea Rosa proposed openstack/nova: Adding device_present field to bdm table https://review.openstack.org/268053 | 11:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Always call port_update in allocate_for_instance https://review.openstack.org/326970 | 11:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Luis Tomas proposed openstack/nova: Add new configuration option to turn postcopy on/off https://review.openstack.org/326874 | 11:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova: Permit Live Migration of Rescued Instances https://review.openstack.org/308198 | 11:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: compute: Skip driver detach call for non local instances https://review.openstack.org/318266 | 11:56 |
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| srushti | oomichi: Hi | 12:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova: Permit Live Migration of Rescued Instances https://review.openstack.org/308198 | 12:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/nova: Make host as second arg in compute api calls https://review.openstack.org/328179 | 12:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: network: handle unauthorized exception from neutron https://review.openstack.org/312014 | 12:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova: Permit Live Migration of Rescued Instances https://review.openstack.org/308198 | 12:14 |
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| danpb | claudiub|2: libvirt integration will merge in nova real soon - as soon as we get +2s on the devstack review | 12:17 |
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| danpb | once initiall support for libvirt is done, i'm happy to see other hypervisor maintainers port whenever they feel like | 12:17 |
| danpb | claudiub|2: doesn;t have to be this cycle - i figure we'll target ocata for getting 100% conversion done, newton just targets an initial partial convert | 12:18 |
| jed56 | hello | 12:18 |
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| sudipto | jaypipes, hi, this passed the tests : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270341/ | 12:19 |
| sudipto | jaypipes, yesterday's review i mean. | 12:19 |
| claudiub|2 | danpb: i see. So, I'm interested because we are going to use os-vif in the Hyper-V Driver as well. Since the Hyper-V OVS VIF driver didn't merge yet, there's no conversion required on our part. All we really need and use is the create_ovs_vif_port and delete_ovs_vif_port from os-vif. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140045/36/nova/virt/hyperv/vif.py | 12:21 |
| claudiub|2 | IMO, it's a fairly straight-forward usage of the os-vif library. | 12:22 |
| jed56 | How can we "live-migrate" of a group of instances with an affinity policy ? | 12:23 |
| danpb | claudiub|2: NB, those methods are not considered part of the public API | 12:23 |
| danpb | claudiub|2: the /only/ methods nova should be calling is the os_vif.plug/unplug methods | 12:24 |
| danpb | claudiub|2: certainly never call directly into any of the vif plugin impls | 12:24 |
| claudiub|2 | hmm, i see. | 12:24 |
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| danpb | claudiub|2: looking at your vif.py file - all those HypervOSVIFDriver and HypervNovaNetworkVIFDriver classes would ultimately go away | 12:25 |
| danpb | claudiub|2: and instead os-vif would take their place | 12:25 |
| danpb | nb, i would fully expect that it might be neccessary to create some new plugins or change existing ons in os-vif to suit hyperv | 12:26 |
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| claudiub|2 | danpb: hm, makes sense. i'll see what i can do about it | 12:26 |
| danpb | claudiub|2: note that the way we've done the integration in nova / libvirt currently is just a short term stop gap | 12:27 |
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| danpb | where we turn the current port binding metadata from neutron into an os-vif VIF object in nova | 12:27 |
| danpb | eventually Neutron will directly send us a serialized os-vif VIF object | 12:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Transform instance.update notification https://review.openstack.org/325923 | 12:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Transform instance.delete notifications https://review.openstack.org/313654 | 12:29 |
| claudiub|2 | danpb: I see the os-vif OVSPlugin already uses vifs as objects, while I only have them as dicts. It seems I'm missing something. | 12:29 |
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| danpb | claudiub|2: the nova libvirt vif driver currently calls into https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269672/19/nova/network/os_vif_util.py convert_vif() to change the dict into an object | 12:31 |
| danpb | claudiub|2: this is what i mean by the stop-gap approach - eventually the virt drivers wont have to call that conversion code as neutron will give them the object straight away | 12:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Patzig proposed openstack/nova: Add option to disable local disks in flavors https://review.openstack.org/280301 | 12:32 |
| claudiub|2 | danpb: i see. cool. IMO, the vifs should be converted at the manager level, so by the time they reach the drivers, they'll be objects already. it will have to be done anyway. | 12:32 |
| mdbooth | sdague: re bug 1590693 | 12:32 |
| openstack | bug 1590693 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "libvirt's use of driver.get_instance_disk_info() is generally problematic" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1590693 | 12:32 |
| danpb | claudiub|2: also note how its only enabled for the linux-bridge/ovs - we still need to create new plugins for hte other VIFs | 12:32 |
| danpb | claudiub|2: yes, once all drivers have been converted to os-vif, we'll move that conversion upto the manager level | 12:32 |
| mdbooth | sdague: I wrote that bug specifically to be a low-hanging-fruit | 12:32 |
| claudiub|2 | danpb: gotcha | 12:33 |
| mdbooth | Which is why it might read strangely. I could have fixed it myself, but I wanted to give somebody else the opportunity to do it | 12:33 |
| sdague | mdbooth: right, and my experience is that a bug written like that isn't low-hanging-fruit. We had like 50 bugs written like that under the assumption that someone would understand and refactor a thing | 12:33 |
| sdague | and it doesn't happen | 12:34 |
| mdbooth | sdague: The first bit is pretty easy, right? | 12:34 |
| claudiub|2 | danpb: thanks for the info, I'll see how it hoes and I'll send another patchset for this. | 12:34 |
| mdbooth | Second bit is meatier | 12:34 |
| sdague | mdbooth: the kind of bugs that people take off the low hanging fruit tag are "this does X, here is a reproduce, and you'd fix it with Y" | 12:35 |
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| mdbooth | sdague: Ok. I'd just close that bug in that case. If it's not low hanging fruit, I agree it shouldn't exist. | 12:35 |
| * mdbooth will close it. | 12:36 | |
| openstackgerrit | Pawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: WIP [libvirt] Live migration fails when config_drive_format=iso9660 https://review.openstack.org/234659 | 12:36 |
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| * mdbooth realises that he's too stupid to close his own bug in launchpad | 12:37 | |
| mdbooth | I think I've done it | 12:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Moshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: Trivial: remove none existing py3 test from tests-py3.txt https://review.openstack.org/328271 | 12:43 |
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| cdent | mdbooth: I'd be inclined to blame launchpad there, not you... | 12:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: WIP Add delete_inventory, InventoryList.replace and Inventory.capacity https://review.openstack.org/328276 | 12:49 |
| sdague | yeh, the fact that there is no "Close" is just silly | 12:49 |
| sdague | Invalid, Won't Fix, Opinion are all "closed" states | 12:49 |
| jaypipes | sudipto: cool, will look shortly. | 12:50 |
| jaypipes | sudipto: waiting for gertty to sync up this morning ;) | 12:50 |
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| sudipto | jaypipes, sure thanks! :) | 12:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova: Permit Live Migration of Rescued Instances https://review.openstack.org/308198 | 12:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova: API changes for live migration of rescued instance https://review.openstack.org/328280 | 12:55 |
| cdent | jaypipes: because I know you're always short of things to do, here's one more: some extensions to the set_inventory work that I found useful when integrating set_inventory in the WIP placement api. Not sure it is right, so a sanity check would be awesome: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328276/ | 12:55 |
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| jaypipes | cdent: rock on. will review shortly (have a half hour meeting and then free for a while) | 12:57 |
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| cdent | danke | 12:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/python-novaclient: [microversion] Bump to 2.31 https://review.openstack.org/316026 | 13:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: added docs for microversion 2.26 https://review.openstack.org/327089 | 13:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova: API changes for live migration of rescued instance https://review.openstack.org/328280 | 13:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: added docs for microversion 2.26 https://review.openstack.org/327089 | 13:28 |
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| jaypipes | sudipto: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270341/ still needs rebasing... I'll do it. | 13:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: Allow monitor plugins to set own metric object https://review.openstack.org/270341 | 13:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: add memory bandwidth monitor base class https://review.openstack.org/270079 | 13:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: Allow monitor plugins to set own metric object https://review.openstack.org/270341 | 13:32 |
| jaypipes | sudipto: done. | 13:32 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328080 is the end of the all extensions for api samples, and actually will simplify my patch | 13:32 |
| sahid | jaypipes: any chance you (re)look at this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312014/ i had to fix conflicts | 13:32 |
| sudipto | jaypipes, all the files in that review are missing now? | 13:32 |
| sdague | also, its - 3.5KLOC | 13:32 |
| sdague | also, its -3.5KLOC | 13:32 |
| sdague | so win! | 13:33 |
| jaypipes | sudipto: lol, wtf did I just do... | 13:33 |
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| cdent | jaypipes: whatever it was keep doing it | 13:33 |
| jaypipes | cdent: lol. | 13:34 |
| sudipto | cdent, lol | 13:34 |
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| jaypipes | sudipto: shitbuckets, gimme some time to undo what madness I just did... gonna need to repush an isolated patch for revision 4 of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270341 | 13:36 |
| sudipto | jaypipes, sure. np at all. | 13:37 |
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| mriedem | sdague: looking | 13:40 |
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| jaypipes | sdague: I approved the extension patch. felt good doing it, too. | 13:41 |
| sdague | jaypipes: :) | 13:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Moshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: pci: Deprecate is_new from pci requests https://review.openstack.org/310990 | 13:41 |
| mriedem | sdague: gmann: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328080/2/nova/tests/functional/api_sample_tests/api_samples/servers/server-create-req.json.tpl | 13:43 |
| sdague | hmmm... yeh, that's odd | 13:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Allow live migration with config_drive_format=iso9660 https://review.openstack.org/234659 | 13:46 |
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| mriedem | oh i guess jay already approved | 13:47 |
| sdague | we should figure out why that's passing though, that's really weird | 13:47 |
| mriedem | ok, i'm in meetings for the next hour so won't be able to look. | 13:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add a ResourceProviderList object https://review.openstack.org/328307 | 13:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Handle duplicate names in ResourceProvider https://review.openstack.org/328308 | 13:48 |
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| sdague | I'll dig | 13:48 |
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| mriedem | does https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328112/ complete the blueprint? | 13:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Prevent block live migration with tunnelled flag https://review.openstack.org/310707 | 13:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova: API changes for live migration of rescued instance https://review.openstack.org/328280 | 13:53 |
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| mriedem | flaper87: mfedosin: question in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315190/ - should we just default devstack to disable glance v1 now that nova defaults to using glance v2? | 13:54 |
| mriedem | or does glance need to put out a patch that deprecates the v1 api? | 13:54 |
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| mfedosin | mriedem: I think it's better to wait till v1 is completely deprecated | 13:57 |
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| pkoniszewski | mriedem: hi, i think that fix for block live migration is ready to go once again, repaired unit tests, https://review.openstack.org/310707 | 13:57 |
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| mriedem1 | pkoniszewski: looking | 13:58 |
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| sdague | mriedem1: ... well, step one, I don't think we actually cross check the req documents, only the responses | 14:00 |
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| sdague | but... I'm actually more confused why the jsonschema accepted that | 14:00 |
| mriedem1 | sdague: good point | 14:01 |
| mriedem1 | sdague: which reminds me of something i hit yesterday in tempest with testing get-me-a-network, | 14:01 |
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| mriedem1 | if i hadn't added a multiple server create test in tempest, i wouldn't have noticed that i dropped the schema validation for multiple create in my 2.31 change | 14:02 |
| mriedem1 | because it has to be mapped with the create extension schemas | 14:02 |
| mriedem1 | very weird | 14:02 |
| mriedem1 | this part https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316398/12/nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py@212 | 14:02 |
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| mriedem1 | btw, for anyone that is interested, there are some easy patches at the bottom of the get-me-a-network series starting here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297871/ | 14:03 |
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| sdague | mriedem1: yeh, the super normalization of the jsonschemas makes that really easy to get kind of screwy | 14:04 |
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| mriedem1 | i'm wondering why a server multiple create functional test didn't fail, i'm guessing either we don't have one (but pretty sure we do) or we don't have functional tests testing against 'latest' | 14:05 |
| mriedem1 | but testing against 'latest' is maybe crazy? | 14:06 |
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| mriedem1 | i'm guessing everything is running against 2.1 unless explicitly told to test against something higher | 14:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Add support for microversion 2.28 https://review.openstack.org/328314 | 14:08 |
| bauwser | sdague: just a quick question about https://review.openstack.org/328314 | 14:08 |
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| bauwser | sdague: given an API resource now returns a new item value from the previous microversion (here cpu_info), do we need to have the novaclient API call returning the previous behaviour or is this only for the CLI ? | 14:10 |
| lascii | mriedem1: pretty sure there's no functional test against 'latest'. I added https://review.openstack.org/#/c/325985/4/nova/tests/functional/wsgi/test_servers.py for a patch when Tempest failed on something that a functional test should have caught | 14:10 |
| sdague | mriedem1: we default to 2.1 yes | 14:10 |
| mriedem1 | lascii: ok i'll take a look | 14:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Add support for microversion 2.28 https://review.openstack.org/328314 | 14:12 |
| bauwser | mriedem1: meh, I'm tired | 14:12 |
| mriedem1 | bauwser: it would be cool to test the API part to make sure the python API gives a dict back rather than a string, but would require a functional test, which is maybe more than you want | 14:13 |
| bauwser | mriedem1: that's fine by me, I can try | 14:13 |
| mriedem1 | maybe we should release note that? | 14:13 |
| bauwser | that's even a good point | 14:13 |
| bauwser | mriedem1: tbh, I was mostly wondering if the stability should be only for CLI calls, and not for novaclient ones | 14:14 |
| bauwser | I'm pretty a rookie here | 14:14 |
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| bauwser | but I need to go on week-end, so http://littlefun.org/uploads/5269efe1e691b24d64aec592_736.jpg | 14:16 |
| andreykurilin | bauwser mriedem : it would be nice to have api_version property in resource objects. it should help to understand types of partial properties, available methods and so on | 14:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Qcow2: add create_from_image & create_from_func https://review.openstack.org/320610 | 14:17 |
| bauwser | I think I did put my toe on the door | 14:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Lvm: add create_from_image & create_from_func https://review.openstack.org/320611 | 14:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Image: add create_from_image & create_from_func https://review.openstack.org/318948 | 14:17 |
| andreykurilin | mriedem1: can you look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308848/ ? | 14:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Rbd: add create_from_image & create_from_func https://review.openstack.org/317694 | 14:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Introduce ImageCacheLocalDir https://review.openstack.org/279669 | 14:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Add check_backing_from_func & check_backing_from_image https://review.openstack.org/322285 | 14:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Flat: add create_from_image & create_from_func https://review.openstack.org/317701 | 14:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Ploop: add create_from_image & create_from_func https://review.openstack.org/317689 | 14:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova: Introduce utility module for pcp https://review.openstack.org/203163 | 14:18 |
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| mriedem1 | pkoniszewski: +2 | 14:19 |
| mriedem1 | danpb: can you pass by https://review.openstack.org/310707 again quick? | 14:20 |
| mriedem1 | andreykurilin: ok, i haven't wrapped my head around that change yet | 14:20 |
| andreykurilin | :) | 14:20 |
| sdague | mriedem1: so.... this is actually where scheduler hints go apparently in the code - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328080/2/doc/api_samples/os-scheduler-hints/scheduler-hints-post-req.json ... I wonder if we just muffed that one hard and no one had noticed yet | 14:21 |
| sdague | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/f44d1aff9dba995fee8de91c16cd4f316b2b89f6/nova/api/openstack/compute/scheduler_hints.py#L40 | 14:21 |
| danpb | mriedem1: ok | 14:22 |
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| mriedem1 | sdague: yeah: "# NOTE(gmann): Accepting request body in this function to fetch "scheduler # hint". This is a workaround to allow OS_SCH-HNT at the top level # of the body request, but that it will be changed in the future to be a # subset of the servers dict." | 14:23 |
| mriedem1 | sdague: must have been a latent bug from the v2 api | 14:23 |
| sdague | yep | 14:23 |
| mriedem1 | and required for v2.1/v2.0 compat | 14:23 |
| mriedem1 | so at some point we microversion that to be an item under the server dict in the reques | 14:23 |
| sdague | yeh | 14:23 |
| mriedem1 | claudiub|2: did anyone ever put up a spec for adding a microversion to change os-diagnostics to use the get_instance_diagnostics method? | 14:24 |
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| mriedem1 | for the standardized diagnostics? | 14:24 |
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| mriedem1 | sdague: ok, well that at least explains the weirdness. thanks for looking. | 14:24 |
| sdague | yeh, no prob | 14:24 |
| sdague | we need to fix that doc | 14:25 |
| sdague | I'll put a patch on top | 14:25 |
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| claudiub|2 | mriedem1: unfortunately, no. | 14:25 |
| tjones | if any cores feel bored today and want to review super trivial patches to remove mox - here are 3 :-) https://review.openstack.org/265476 https://review.openstack.org/270303 https://review.openstack.org/271069 | 14:26 |
| mriedem1 | sdague: it's also got debt in the servers extension https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/f44d1aff9dba995fee8de91c16cd4f316b2b89f6/nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py#L741 | 14:26 |
| mriedem1 | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/f44d1aff9dba995fee8de91c16cd4f316b2b89f6/nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py#L773 | 14:26 |
| mriedem1 | so yeah would be cool to clean that garbage up in ocata | 14:26 |
| mriedem1 | i could write a spec for that at some point | 14:26 |
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| mriedem1 | claudiub|2: ok, wouldn't make it for newton anyway, i was just wondering | 14:26 |
| claudiub|2 | mriedem1: yeah, that's what I was thinking as well. | 14:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: fix OS-SCH-HNT:scheduler_hints location in sample https://review.openstack.org/328320 | 14:27 |
| sdague | mriedem1: there is the doc fix | 14:27 |
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| mdbooth | diana_clarke: Following our earlier discussion, another reason I hate falsey: | 14:29 |
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| mdbooth | (Pdb) instance.config_drive | 14:29 |
| mdbooth | u'False' | 14:29 |
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| diana_clarke | I'm compiling a list: mdbooth hates falsey, cdent hates mocks, dansmith hates babies, mriedem has some religious thing going on that I can't quite pin-point ;) | 14:32 |
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| mdbooth | diana_clarke: I can out-do all of those guys. I have *everything*. | 14:33 |
| mdbooth | hate | 14:33 |
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| * danpb confirms mdbooth is a giant hate machine :-P | 14:33 | |
| mdbooth | See? | 14:33 |
| andrearosa | diana_clarke: that's the wrong approach. let's have a list for thing that ppl love, like paul-carlton2 loves IRC nicknames | 14:33 |
| cdent | clearly I haven't been trying hard enough if mocks are the main evidence of my hate | 14:33 |
| mdbooth | andrearosa: It's a shorter list :) | 14:34 |
| andrearosa | mdbooth: lol | 14:34 |
| mriedem1 | oomichi: if you're around, easy fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328320/ | 14:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Remove invalid test methods for config option port_range https://review.openstack.org/327471 | 14:35 |
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| mdbooth | This rings a bell, actually. I wonder if I hit this working on vmware. | 14:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: WIP Add delete_inventory, InventoryList.replace and Inventory.capacity https://review.openstack.org/328276 | 14:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Handle duplicate names in ResourceProvider https://review.openstack.org/328308 | 14:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add a ResourceProviderList object https://review.openstack.org/328307 | 14:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add set_inventory() method on ResourceProvider https://review.openstack.org/326440 | 14:37 |
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| mdbooth | I have seen it before: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104144/ | 14:40 |
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| mriedem1 | claudiub|2: i'll write a spec for the os-diagnostics thing for ocata | 14:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: os-vif: convert libvirt driver to use os-vif library https://review.openstack.org/269672 | 14:46 |
| mriedem1 | andreykurilin: sounds like bauzas is out for the weekend so if you wanted to update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328314/ with your functional tests that would move it along faster | 14:47 |
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| andreykurilin | mriedem1: ok, I'll do it now | 14:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: WIP resource-providers/placement api https://review.openstack.org/293104 | 14:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Change all test URLs to use example.com https://review.openstack.org/291370 | 14:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sarafraj Singh proposed openstack/nova: Deprecate barbican options https://review.openstack.org/317684 | 14:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Add support for microversion 2.28 https://review.openstack.org/328314 | 14:52 |
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| andreykurilin | mriedem1: done ;) | 14:52 |
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| cdent | johnthetubaguy: could you pull your -2 off this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293104/ it's not ready yet, but it does have an approved spec. thanks. | 14:56 |
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| johnthetubaguy | cdent: sure thing | 14:57 |
| cdent | bonus | 14:57 |
| sdague | um... something is pretty wrong with reno - http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/nova/unreleased.html | 14:58 |
| cdent | oh dear | 14:59 |
| danpb | lol, that's a big list of short things | 14:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Yield the thread when verifying image's signature https://review.openstack.org/323672 | 15:00 |
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| dims | dhellmann : rendering problem with sphinx/reno? ^^ (http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/nova/unreleased.html) | 15:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sarafraj Singh proposed openstack/nova: Improve help text in cinder.py https://review.openstack.org/321064 | 15:03 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: eek | 15:03 |
| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Don't use 'updated_at' to check service's status https://review.openstack.org/297085 | 15:03 |
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| mriedem | sdague: hyper-v rescue support, must be bad rest formatting | 15:07 |
| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/releasenotes/notes/bp-hyper-v-remotefx-1474ef1a082ad1b0.yaml | 15:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Karen Bradshaw proposed openstack/nova: api-ref, os-availability-zone.inc https://review.openstack.org/321847 | 15:08 |
| mriedem | i think that | needs to be dropped a level | 15:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lucian Petrut proposed openstack/nova: HyperV: use os-brick for volume related operations https://review.openstack.org/273504 | 15:09 |
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| mriedem | fixing that reno | 15:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: added docs for microversion 2.26 https://review.openstack.org/327089 | 15:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Added missed response to test_server_tags https://review.openstack.org/327088 | 15:21 |
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| sdague | mriedem: I wonder if we can catch something like that during build | 15:28 |
| mriedem | sdague: now i'm getting /home/user/git/nova/releasenotes/source/unreleased.rst:50: WARNING: Literal block expected; none found. | 15:29 |
| mriedem | after fixing that | 15:29 |
| mriedem | so it's weird, and not helpful | 15:29 |
| sdague | mriedem: push the patch, let me look | 15:29 |
| mriedem | there is something else in the body of the reno | 15:29 |
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| mriedem | i'm just removing parts and rebuilding until i find the wrong one | 15:29 |
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| mriedem | ok something in the bottom part | 15:32 |
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| mriedem | got it | 15:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Fix reno from hyper-v-remotefx https://review.openstack.org/328350 | 15:35 |
| mriedem | sdague: ^ | 15:35 |
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| sdague | mriedem: ah, yep | 15:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: remove processing of blacklist/whitelist/corelist extensions https://review.openstack.org/327302 | 15:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: fix OS-SCH-HNT:scheduler_hints location in sample https://review.openstack.org/328320 | 15:37 |
| mriedem | sdague: reno for this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327302/ | 15:38 |
| mriedem | given "From this point forward, what is in Nova is loaded, no exceptions." | 15:38 |
| mriedem | oh i see The reno will come with that patch. | 15:38 |
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| sdague | yeh | 15:40 |
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| claudiub|2 | mriedem: just fyi, these blueprint are completed: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyperv-serial-ports https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-remotefx https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-rescue https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-imagecache-cleanup | 15:46 |
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| mnestratov | mriedem: by the way, http://rst.ninjs.org/ is pretty useful to check rst formatting in realtime | 15:46 |
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| claudiub|2 | yep, rst.ninjs.org is pretty good, but reno can't handle a few rst features. | 15:47 |
| claudiub|2 | for example, reno really doesn't like back ticks. | 15:47 |
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| mriedem | mnestratov: awesome | 15:48 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/os-vif: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/322553 | 15:48 |
| mriedem | thanks for the tip | 15:48 |
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| mnestratov | you are welcome | 15:49 |
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| mriedem | claudiub|2: awesome, i love closing blueprints :) | 15:51 |
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| sdague | mriedem: I'm pretty sure this is now closed - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/api-sample-tests-with-all-extensions | 15:52 |
| mriedem | sdague: yeah that's what i thought | 15:52 |
| mriedem | will close it | 15:52 |
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| mriedem | claudiub|2: can this be dropped? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261035/ | 15:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: config options: Improve help for base https://review.openstack.org/324559 | 15:54 |
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| claudiub|2 | mriedem: the commit is still useful and its still something we want to do, but it requires a spec, so it will be punted to ocata. | 15:56 |
| claudiub|2 | I guess it can be un-abandoned then. :) | 15:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Use real uuids in test_driver https://review.openstack.org/328365 | 16:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Fix fake data returned by LibvirtDriverTestCase._disk_info https://review.openstack.org/328366 | 16:03 |
| mdbooth | sdague: Do I recall that https://review.openstack.org/328365 fixes one of your bugbears? | 16:04 |
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| mdbooth | It's mechanical but merge-conflict-tastic, anyway. | 16:05 |
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| mdbooth | If it's not something we're super interested in, I'll drop it tbh, as it'll be a pita to maintain. | 16:05 |
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| sdague | mdbooth: there is actually a uuidsentinel module | 16:06 |
| sdague | which is how we've been doing it | 16:07 |
| mdbooth | orly? Do we prefer that? | 16:07 |
| * mdbooth greps | 16:07 | |
| mdbooth | sdague: Oh, that's nicer | 16:07 |
| sdague | yeh, dansmith and migi came up with it | 16:07 |
| sdague | and we have been using that model to try to convert everything over when we can | 16:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: config options: improve help for notifications https://review.openstack.org/319439 | 16:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: config options: improve help for notifications https://review.openstack.org/319439 | 16:16 |
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| diana_clarke | Have large patch series always had issues with false "this patch depends on a change that failed to merge" timing issues, or is this a recent thing? | 16:19 |
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| mdbooth | diana_clarke: I have vague memories of this over time | 16:20 |
| mdbooth | Can't prove it, though | 16:21 |
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| mdbooth | iow I don't think it's recent | 16:21 |
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| diana_clarke | mdbooth: *everytime* I push this series, I need to manually "recheck" and "xen: recheck" it to make it green. | 16:22 |
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| mdbooth | diana_clarke: I don't think deep patch queues are the norm, although I've had them a few times | 16:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: Remove useless unit test in test_resource_tracker https://review.openstack.org/328372 | 16:22 |
| mdbooth | It could just be we're poking a lesser-trodden path | 16:22 |
| mdbooth | sdague might be able to do more than just hand-waving, though | 16:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: config options: improve help for notifications https://review.openstack.org/319439 | 16:23 |
| dhellmann | claudiub|2 : if you're having trouble embedding rst features in the yaml files, try escaping the rst as described in http://docs.openstack.org/developer/reno/usage.html#formatting | 16:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kam Nasim proposed openstack/nova: Fixes exception during a swap to no swap resize https://review.openstack.org/300616 | 16:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Update libvirt to use the new imagebackend methods https://review.openstack.org/282580 | 16:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Always call port_update in allocate_for_instance https://review.openstack.org/326970 | 16:40 |
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| oomichi | mriedem: ah, yeah. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328320/ is easy one :) | 16:43 |
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| claudiub|2 | dhellmann: yeah, I am aware of it. :) | 16:44 |
| claudiub|2 | dhellmann: but there is no mention of things like ``this``, which doesn't work in reno. | 16:44 |
| oomichi | mriedem: but the root proglem is API design of scheduler_hints, I feel. the location is wrong by comparing the other parameters | 16:45 |
| kashyap | sdague: Agreed with your comment on req. bump w.r.t upstream users & causing annoyance to distributions... | 16:45 |
| oomichi | gmann: there is not any patch on https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/api-sample-tests-with-all-extensions | 16:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Luis Tomas proposed openstack/nova: Add new configuration option to turn postcopy on/off https://review.openstack.org/326874 | 16:48 |
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| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: are you around? | 16:51 |
| oomichi | mriedem: btw, can you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328380/ ? that is a project-config one and the ptl +1 is great for that | 16:52 |
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| dhellmann | claudiub|2 : if you escape the restructured text, backticks should work fine. Do you have an example of where it's not? | 17:01 |
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| stewie925 | hello guys what does the .inc file extension mean? | 17:04 |
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| claudiub|2 | dhellmann: hm, I didn't use | to escape lines with backticks. didn't think it would work, the doc talks about using | to retain newlines. anyways, this is the reno I was trying to figure out: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320585/1 | 17:08 |
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| dhellmann | claudiub|2 : the | will escape the multi-line string so the YAML parser doesn't try to parse it. That should cover all rst features. | 17:09 |
| claudiub|2 | dhellmann: i'll keep that in mind. :) | 17:09 |
| dhellmann | I can never remember the difference between | and > for escaping. | 17:09 |
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| leakypipes | BobBall: you around? has anyone alerted you to the Ctrix Xenserver CI being borked? | 17:17 |
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| mriedem1 | stewie925: the inc files are for the api-ref docs | 17:51 |
| stewie925 | thank you mriedem1 | 17:52 |
| mriedem1 | did anyone get a hold of BobBall? | 17:52 |
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| mriedem | or anthonyper | 17:52 |
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| mriedem | wow, assert_called_once_with totally failed | 17:59 |
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| mriedem | lascii: melwitt: can you take a look at this? | 17:59 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309574/13/nova/network/neutronv2/api.py@1149 | 17:59 |
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| mriedem | that's calling a method that has 2 args, but i'm only passing 1 | 17:59 |
| mriedem | so it fails: | 17:59 |
| mriedem | http://logs.openstack.org/01/327901/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/5597f2a/logs/screen-n-api.txt.gz?level=TRACE#_2016-06-10_02_07_59_216 | 17:59 |
| * melwitt looks | 18:00 | |
| mriedem | however, i have a unit test asserting the params called to that mocked method: | 18:00 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309574/13/nova/tests/unit/network/test_neutronv2.py@4716 | 18:00 |
| mriedem | which doesn't fail | 18:00 |
| mriedem | oh i think i know why | 18:00 |
| mriedem | no spec for the mock | 18:00 |
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| mriedem | well, still, that seems crazy | 18:01 |
| melwitt | mriedem: hm, I think you're right | 18:02 |
| mriedem | when i add autospec=True on that mock i get this https://gist.github.com/mriedem/2c28cdd97c046acad867eb31e164848d | 18:03 |
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| mriedem | maybe it's because i'm using a sentinel? not sure. | 18:03 |
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| mriedem | hmm nope sentinel or regular mock it doesn't matter | 18:06 |
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| melwitt | that's a vague error message. not seeing what it means yet | 18:07 |
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| mriedem | if i change it to spec=True then it works | 18:13 |
| mriedem | AssertionError: Expected call: _can_auto_allocate_network(<nova.context.RequestContext object at 0xb41de5cc>, sentinel.neutron) | 18:13 |
| mriedem | Actual call: _can_auto_allocate_network(sentinel.neutron) | 18:13 |
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| mriedem | let's never tell cdent about this | 18:15 |
| melwitt | weird | 18:15 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: looks like it was broken in the past but fixed https://github.com/testing-cabal/mock/issues/264 | 18:20 |
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| melwitt | maybe something has occurred again | 18:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Delete old imagebackend methods & tests https://review.openstack.org/322974 | 18:20 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: not sure, i read some of the docs in mock for autospecing | 18:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: numa: Fixes NUMA topology related unit tests https://review.openstack.org/278835 | 18:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: fixes python 3 related unit tests https://review.openstack.org/278834 | 18:21 |
| mriedem | it gets a bit confusing | 18:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Fixes python 3 unit tests https://review.openstack.org/278810 | 18:21 |
| melwitt | mriedem: yeah. I don't really get the difference between spec and autospec. it says autospec checks the signature and spec does not, yet spec did catch the issue of passing wrong number of args | 18:22 |
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| melwitt | looks like spec applies only to the mock itself, whereas autospec will follow nesting of objects | 18:27 |
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| jaypipes | melwitt: easy review bait :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314976/ | 18:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Skip network allocation if 'none' is requested https://review.openstack.org/309638 | 18:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: nova-net: handle 'auto' network request in allocate_for_instance https://review.openstack.org/297906 | 18:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Bump the service version for get-me-a-network support https://review.openstack.org/318953 | 18:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Skip network validation if explicitly requesting no networks https://review.openstack.org/309602 | 18:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: neutron: handle 'auto' network request in allocate_for_instance https://review.openstack.org/316275 | 18:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Add helpers to NetworkRequest(List) objects for auto/none cases https://review.openstack.org/297871 | 18:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Add REST API support for get me a network https://review.openstack.org/316398 | 18:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: neutron: validate auto-allocate is available https://review.openstack.org/309574 | 18:32 |
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| melwitt | jaypipes: done | 18:32 |
| jaypipes | melwitt: course, not sure if the XenServer CI issue has been resolved... | 18:33 |
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| mriedem | jaypipes: if it's busted on everything we can remove it from nova-ci grou | 18:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Sarafraj Singh proposed openstack/nova: Deprecate barbican options https://review.openstack.org/317684 | 18:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: config options: Improve help for SPICE https://review.openstack.org/317046 | 18:39 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: pretty much busted on everything, yes. some error about Compute host localhost.localdomain could not be found: http://dd6b71949550285df7dc-dda4e480e005aaa13ec303551d2d8155.r49.cf1.rackcdn.com/75/328375/1/18655/run_tests.log | 18:44 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: s/pretty much// | 18:45 |
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| mriedem | ok i'll remove it from nova-ci | 18:49 |
| mriedem | i wonder if anyone realizes the hyper-v ci job is not in the nova-ci group | 18:50 |
| mriedem | or if it's always been that way | 18:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova: Improve help text for xenapi_session_opts https://review.openstack.org/322322 | 19:01 |
| mriedem | lascii: just opened https://review.openstack.org/#/c/325985/4/nova/compute/api.py | 19:01 |
| mriedem | lascii: that _delete method in the compute api has always bugged me | 19:02 |
| mriedem | due to it's complexity | 19:02 |
| mriedem | lascii: how about pulling that big new block of stuff when there isn't a host into a private method? | 19:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova: Improve help text for neutron_opts https://review.openstack.org/326808 | 19:06 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: been that way since we removed it recently due to some changes cloudbase made to test new Hyper-V features. probably can go back into the mix now, though. check with claudiu... | 19:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: config options: improve help for noVNC https://review.openstack.org/319453 | 19:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Luis Tomas proposed openstack/nova: Add new configuration option to turn postcopy on/off https://review.openstack.org/326874 | 19:14 |
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| gabriel-bezerra | Hi folks, I'm looking at this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1175464 and it is still not marked as closed, even though a patch that relates to it (and seems to fix) has been merged already | 19:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1175464 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "should not add default security group to quantum unless api-request had it" [High,In progress] - Assigned to sahid (sahid-ferdjaoui) | 19:19 |
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| gabriel-bezerra | do you see a reason why it should not be marked as fixed already? | 19:20 |
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| gabriel-bezerra | I'd like to have it ported to kilo, would it be welcome if I fix it and send a change upstream? | 19:21 |
| gabriel-bezerra | Or kilo backports aren't welcome anymore? | 19:21 |
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| lascii | mriedem: yeah, I can do that | 19:35 |
| mriedem | lascii: well, see the comment | 19:36 |
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| lascii | mriedem: did you figure out the mock thing, or get past the point of caring? | 19:37 |
| mriedem | the problem is if it's in a private method it has to return a marker to tell the caller to continue or not | 19:37 |
| mriedem | lascii: backassward figured it out | 19:37 |
| mriedem | as in i don't understand it really, but figured out how to make the test fail when it was busted | 19:37 |
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| lascii | okay, that works for now. I may take a look to satiate my curiosity | 19:38 |
| lascii | on the review, I still think it's worth pulling that into a separate method even with the return | 19:39 |
| mriedem | lascii: are there any issues if say you have 2 cells, A and B, and 3 computes among them, 1 and 2 are in A, 3 is in B | 19:42 |
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| mriedem | and you schedule to A.1 and it fails, then reschedule to A.2 and it fails, and then reschedule to B.3 and it fails - is there any issue in showing details about that instance since it started in A but ended up in B? | 19:42 |
| mriedem | and is the BuildRequest deleted once you start building in A.1? | 19:43 |
| mriedem | i'm looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322324/ | 19:43 |
| lascii | yes, BuildRequest is deleted once you start building in A. And for now reschedules can not move to a different cell | 19:43 |
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| lascii | well, that's a constraint we're going to need to add before multiple cell support | 19:44 |
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| mriedem | lascii: ok, i wasn't sure if there was something actually constraining that :) | 19:45 |
| lascii | just that you can't reasonably add two cells yet :) | 19:45 |
| mriedem | yeah | 19:45 |
| mriedem | are we going to restrict reschedules to the same cell just to make it easier? | 19:45 |
| lascii | to start yes | 19:45 |
| diana_clarke | mriedem: It looks like your large patch series is full of false "failed to merge" errors too. Is this a known thing? | 19:46 |
| mriedem | because what if we were scheduled to that one cell but it like just goes to capacity and we can't reschedule out of it | 19:46 |
| lascii | mriedem: because it avoids the remapping issue you mentioned above | 19:46 |
| mriedem | diana_clarke: yeah apparently, i brought it up in infra the other day | 19:46 |
| doffm | mriedem: That is currently the case. | 19:46 |
| mriedem | diana_clarke: jeblair said it might be gerrit taking too long or something | 19:46 |
| mriedem | something something zuul cloner | 19:46 |
| mriedem | big nova repo clone + large patch series | 19:46 |
| mriedem | doffm: good point | 19:47 |
| diana_clarke | mriedem: ah, okay. thanks! | 19:47 |
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| lascii | mriedem: the answer in my mind is that we need to be better about scheduler races and not schedule to a full cell. but ultimately I would like reschedules and migrates to be able to cross cells, just not immediately | 19:47 |
| mriedem | lascii: yeah that all makes sense | 19:48 |
| mriedem | lascii: i'm just enjoying thinking about doomsday scenarios on a friday | 19:48 |
| mriedem | if yo'ure the poor bastard that lands randomly into a near capacity cell when there are others that are fairly free, then oops | 19:49 |
| lascii | yep, it's a big issue today as doffm mentioned | 19:49 |
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| mriedem | doffm is workingon a scheduler POC to randomize where things land since i don't think we care about packing | 19:49 |
| lascii | just throw the chance scheduler in, what could go wrong | 19:50 |
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| doffm | lascii: The POC is really a mix of the chance scheduler and the filter scheduler. | 19:53 |
| doffm | Which works really well in simulation. | 19:53 |
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| doffm | 10x times throughput for same level of failure. | 19:54 |
| lascii | nice. It should definitely cut down on races | 19:54 |
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| mriedem | lascii: question in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327342/4/nova/objects/instance.py | 20:01 |
| lascii | mriedem: good call. I can log an error if vm/task state are something else. you want it to return uuid in that case? | 20:03 |
| mriedem | if uuid is set yeah maybe | 20:05 |
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| lascii | if uuid isn't set we're way off the reservation | 20:06 |
| mriedem | i know _provision_instances will set instance.uuid before going to the conductor/scheduler for placement | 20:06 |
| mriedem | and if self.uuid isn't set, we get ObjectActionError anyway i guess | 20:07 |
| mriedem | which is what we'd want | 20:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: attach configdrive after instance XML https://review.openstack.org/303335 | 20:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: objects: adding an update method to virtual_interface https://review.openstack.org/310618 | 20:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: objects: Add devices_metadata to instance object https://review.openstack.org/327920 | 20:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: db: add a device_metadata column to instance_extra https://review.openstack.org/318883 | 20:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: Device tagging metadata API support https://review.openstack.org/304511 | 20:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: objects: new InstanceDevicesMetadata object https://review.openstack.org/318884 | 20:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: Device tagging API support https://review.openstack.org/304510 | 20:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: Compute manager device tagging support https://review.openstack.org/264017 | 20:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: Libvirt driver implementation of device tagging https://review.openstack.org/264016 | 20:07 |
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| lascii | yeah, if uuid isn't set this needs to just blow up noisily | 20:07 |
| mriedem | right, that's what i'm looking for really | 20:08 |
| mriedem | so check vm/task state, log if those aren't what we expect, and return uuid | 20:08 |
| lascii | can do | 20:08 |
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| lascii | sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328336/, just to keep an eye on | 20:16 |
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| stewie925 | hello sdague, I just started working on method verification and have a few questions | 20:34 |
| stewie925 | api ref method verification specifically | 20:34 |
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| stewie925 | how do we know if an api ref resource support limits/ markers | 20:36 |
| sdague | stewie925: fire away | 20:36 |
| mriedem | stewie925: auggy might be able to help, or just ask, it's late on a friday for sdague probably | 20:36 |
| sdague | mriedem: yeh, I'm kicking off soon, but I wanted to float one more thing | 20:37 |
| stewie925 | I am working on the servers-multiple-create inc | 20:37 |
| figleaf | doffm: how does what you're doing compare with changing CONF.scheduler_host_subset_size? | 20:38 |
| sdague | had an interesting interaction in the cinder channel this morning, which makes me think we should probably write up a spec for removing the extensions facility from the Nova API for reference. Given that even though we've been talking about this for about 3 years at summit, it may not have properly escaped into the universe | 20:38 |
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| sdague | stewie925: I would pick something easier than that one. :) | 20:38 |
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| sdague | that one is going to be a little trickier in how we fold it back in | 20:38 |
| doffm | figleaf: Very very well. | 20:38 |
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| stewie925 | oh i see - no wonder thats the only item not worked on :D | 20:38 |
| doffm | figleaf: Adjusting the subset size I see about a 2x improvement at the optimum subset size. | 20:39 |
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| doffm | Whereas what I'm doing (Assigning a probability of bieng chosen based on the weight) about 10x. | 20:39 |
| figleaf | doffm: so where are you injecting the randomness? | 20:39 |
| stewie925 | ok I'll go switch to another one, thank you | 20:39 |
| sdague | stewie925: yeh, I have a theory on how to do it right, which I'll do next week. I've stared at that one for the past couple of weeks | 20:39 |
| stewie925 | thank you sdague | 20:40 |
| doffm | figleaf: Each host gets a probablility of being chosen. That probability is based on the weight. | 20:40 |
| sdague | mriedem: I was looking back through release notes and deprecations and I honestly think a lot of the extension facility deprecations went out with less fanfair than I had remembered | 20:40 |
| doffm | The host subset gives a uniform probability to the top N hosts. | 20:40 |
| doffm | I should say, results are in SIMULATION not real code or workload. That is something we will have to keep working on. Might not turn out at all. | 20:41 |
| mriedem | sdague: yeah i don't really remember hearing much official about it | 20:41 |
| mriedem | there was some random stuff in the ML where people would reply and say 'how do i get my out of tree extension to work' and the response was, it doesn't, or you revert the change to make it work | 20:42 |
| mriedem | and if you don't like that, upstream your extension | 20:42 |
| sdague | right | 20:42 |
| figleaf | doffm: so in your version, a more heavily favored weighting will result in being chosen more often, while a very negative weighting will mean it *could* be chosen, but not very often | 20:42 |
| sdague | and now that the v2 legacy code is dropped, all those things will stop working | 20:42 |
| doffm | figleaf: Yes. The negative question is interesting. | 20:42 |
| doffm | You could either assign a 0 probability for negative. | 20:42 |
| sdague | some of this is in devref, but that's not quite as public as it should be | 20:43 |
| doffm | Or adjust and assign only a 0 probability to the smallest weight. | 20:43 |
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| mriedem | sdague: yeah it really needs to be in the release notes | 20:43 |
| sdague | mriedem: so my thinking is write this up Monday and try to consolidate a bunch of information and directions here | 20:43 |
| mriedem | sdague: sounds good to me. but that's why i was asking about release note in your one change where the commit message says 'after this shit is broken, friend' | 20:45 |
| sdague | with the highlights being: API extensions were a construct that was created when Nova *was* the resource manager for the cloud, and the original theory was Nova gets extended with features. But the pattern changed to a microservices model by Essex where feature sets are their own services. | 20:45 |
| mriedem | exact words | 20:45 |
| doffm | figleaf: But yes, that is the general idea. Big weight, big chance of being chosen. Small weight, small chance. | 20:45 |
| sdague | mriedem: actually, that doesn't break stuff as much as the v2 legacy remove | 20:45 |
| figleaf | doffm: well, I was thinking of a bunch of hosts with a weight of a zillion, and a few with a weight of, say, 10. Even though the zillions are much better choices, you could still get the 10 now and then | 20:45 |
| sdague | especially because you can side load with stevedore | 20:45 |
| mriedem | sdague: i guess i assumed people with v2 extensions would also have v2.1 extensions that can run in compat mode | 20:46 |
| sdague | mriedem: nope | 20:46 |
| sdague | the mostly never rewrote those | 20:46 |
| doffm | figleaf: Very rarely. And that would be OK. The idea is that we want to avoid collisions. The ones with a 10 weight will be chosen very very rarely. | 20:46 |
| sdague | we even told people not to | 20:46 |
| doffm | So the chance of collision is very very very very rare. | 20:46 |
| doffm | very rare * very rare | 20:46 |
| mriedem | sdague: ok, i didn't know that (obviously) | 20:47 |
| sdague | mriedem: with the basics that we're going to remove the stevedore facilities for modifying resources (like servers and flavors) in Newton | 20:47 |
| doffm | When we introduce randomness we are not trying to make the *best* decision each time. Just the statistically best descisions over a long period of time. | 20:47 |
| mriedem | sdague: i never had to care about porting dynamic flavors to v2.1 for example | 20:47 |
| sdague | and the larger new resource extension facility from stevedore goes away in Ocata. | 20:47 |
| mriedem | "with the basics that we're going to remove the stevedore facilities for modifying resources (like servers and flavors) in Newton" | 20:48 |
| mriedem | i just hope ^ was clearly communicated at some point before | 20:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: WIP Discover command to add new hosts to a cell https://review.openstack.org/328491 | 20:48 |
| mriedem | otherwise it sounds like dropping a thing w/o a full release in between the communication | 20:48 |
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| sdague | it has not been communicated as clearly as it probably should have been | 20:49 |
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| mriedem | sdague: i'm back | 20:50 |
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| sdague | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/stable_api.html#stable-api | 20:50 |
| mriedem | "We will keep the existing plugin mechanisms in place within Nova but only to enable modularity in the codebase, not to allow extending of the Nova REST API." | 20:52 |
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| sdague | That merged 12 months ago - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/162912/ | 20:52 |
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| sdague | we have said all these thing publicly, but the implications didn't quite get to people I think | 20:53 |
| mriedem | yeah. a big fat warning in the api if an unknown extension was loaded would have been good. | 20:53 |
| mriedem | oh i see you're using os-foobars, btw, that's going to be busted soon | 20:53 |
| mriedem | let us ask lascii | 20:54 |
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| mriedem | lascii: surely rax knew about the impending removal of extension/plugin support for the API? | 20:54 |
| sdague | sure, though we deleted all the docs around v2.1 extensions before v2.1 was turned on by default | 20:54 |
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| lascii | rax was/is very aware | 20:54 |
| mriedem | ok | 20:54 |
| sdague | right, anyone that's been engaged in the community is aware | 20:54 |
| mriedem | i imagine this gets messy for any distros that have customers with their own extensions | 20:55 |
| sdague | but... it still feels like we should have a spec (which I will write) that puts it all out there in one place. So when pitch forks show up, we can point people at that | 20:55 |
| mriedem | yeah more comms are better comms | 20:55 |
| lascii | I thought we were very clear from the beginning with 2.1 that no extensions would be allowed | 20:55 |
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| lascii | though people may not have understood what the v2 on v2.1 meant for their extensions | 20:56 |
| mriedem | "extensions" gets confusing since we have them in tree | 20:56 |
| sdague | lascii: we have been, we actually deleted all the docs about extensions before 2.1 was on by default | 20:56 |
| lascii | mriedem: very truw | 20:56 |
| sdague | and people could have hacked around it with stevedore once they figured out how the code works | 20:56 |
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| lascii | right, I think that was the rax plan | 20:57 |
| sdague | mostly this is more of a "consolidate all the thinking around why this is all being removed with vengence" | 20:57 |
| sdague | none of it should be all that new, but we have said that specs are our reference docs for future generations, so this is probably a good one to have. Especially as other people inheritted our wsgi stack, and might want to do the same thing | 20:58 |
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| lascii | okay. I'm not at all against that, I just had the same impression as others that this was communicated | 20:58 |
| mriedem | having a well explained reason why we're removing plug points is definitely needed, because when managers and other hook in points were deprecated in mitaka there wasn't much reason in the commit messages, so people just had to see it and deal with it | 20:58 |
| mriedem | because customized private cloud joe doesn't care about public cloud interop | 20:58 |
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| sdague | mriedem: he only thinks he doesn't, until "Symantic Cloud Anti Virus" that is mandated by their CIO's office, doesn't work on their cloud because they changed the API | 20:59 |
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| melwitt | yeah, I guess apparently the missed point was the pluggable ability part will be removed | 20:59 |
| melwitt | i.e. stevedore stuff removed | 21:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Skip network allocation if 'none' is requested https://review.openstack.org/309638 | 21:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: nova-net: handle 'auto' network request in allocate_for_instance https://review.openstack.org/297906 | 21:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Bump the service version for get-me-a-network support https://review.openstack.org/318953 | 21:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Skip network validation if explicitly requesting no networks https://review.openstack.org/309602 | 21:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: neutron: handle 'auto' network request in allocate_for_instance https://review.openstack.org/316275 | 21:00 |
| mriedem | i would like to mandate that all spec use cases now require personas and 'customized private cloud joe' is one of them | 21:00 |
| sdague | melwitt: right, though the stevedore loader was just an implementation detail. We never said that was a contract | 21:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Add helpers to NetworkRequest(List) objects for auto/none cases https://review.openstack.org/297871 | 21:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Add REST API support for get me a network https://review.openstack.org/316398 | 21:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: neutron: validate auto-allocate is available https://review.openstack.org/309574 | 21:01 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: you guys have out of tree extensions - i'm assuming you knew about all of the extension/plugin removal stuff and are dealing with it? | 21:01 |
| melwitt | sdague: right. as you mentioned before those who went in and figured out the code might take it for granted | 21:02 |
| sdague | melwitt: right | 21:02 |
| sdague | so we can put a bow on it and just be super explicit | 21:03 |
| melwitt | yeah, I think that's a good idea | 21:03 |
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| sdague | I expect a certain amount of flame on this one, as I'll make sure we socialize this on the dev / ops list | 21:04 |
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| mriedem | sdague: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-March/059576.html is the thread i was thinking of | 21:06 |
| mriedem | sdague: some good history and comms in there too | 21:07 |
| sdague | right... I think that email thread spawned the devref | 21:07 |
| mriedem | ok | 21:07 |
| mriedem | yeah, would be good reference for a spec | 21:07 |
| sdague | but, you are right, good reference material | 21:07 |
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| mriedem | Frobnozzle Cloud | 21:07 |
| mriedem | oh jaypipes | 21:07 |
| mriedem | joe works at frobnozzle | 21:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Luis Tomas proposed openstack/nova: Add automatic switching to postcopy mode when migration is not progressing https://review.openstack.org/328499 | 21:08 |
| sdague | it would be funnier if we s/joe/jogo/ | 21:08 |
| sdague | and blame this all on jogo | 21:08 |
| sdague | especially given how much he loves private cloud | 21:09 |
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| mriedem | heh | 21:09 |
| mriedem | i explained who jogo was to doffm the other day | 21:09 |
| mriedem | <single tear> | 21:09 |
| sdague | heh | 21:09 |
| sdague | was it a pinteresting story? | 21:09 |
| mriedem | nope | 21:09 |
| mriedem | 'when i was fairly new, there was this guy, jogo, that argued with everyone about everything' | 21:10 |
| melwitt | you have to login to read the story | 21:10 |
| sdague | melwitt: ++ | 21:10 |
| mriedem | 'i thought he was kind of a dick' | 21:10 |
| mriedem | 'but then i got to working with him and fell in love because i agreed with this arguments' | 21:10 |
| mriedem | 'and am also a dick' | 21:10 |
| sdague | mriedem: you should turn this into a children's book | 21:10 |
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| melwitt | lol | 21:11 |
| sdague | it would be right up there with - https://www.amazon.com/Go-F-Sleep-Adam-Mansbach-ebook/dp/B004YMYR2C?ie=UTF8&btkr=1&redirect=true&ref_=dp-kindle-redirect | 21:11 |
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| sdague | which is made even better by Samuel L Jackson reading it - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/femail/video-1005467/Samuel-L-Jackson-reads-Go-The-F-k-To-Sleep.html | 21:12 |
| lascii | sdague: +1. I've listened to samuel l. jackson reading it, great book | 21:12 |
| sdague | lascii: we got a copy when arwen was born | 21:12 |
| mriedem | ours is hidden somewhere | 21:13 |
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| sdague | mriedem: now that she understands words? :) | 21:13 |
| lascii | I don't have a physical copy yet. time to order one I guess | 21:13 |
| mriedem | sdague: no, hidden years ago, then we moved, and i have no idea where it is | 21:13 |
| mriedem | might be in the toy room somewhere | 21:13 |
| sdague | lascii: it has a limitted useful time before those words mean anything to the little one | 21:14 |
| mriedem | the last place any kids are going to find anything is the toy room because that's where i want them to be | 21:14 |
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| sdague | heh | 21:14 |
| sdague | ok, with that, time to call it a week | 21:14 |
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| lascii | sdague: true. then I pass it on to the next new set of parents | 21:14 |
| sdague | I will also make this spec on extension removal have a flowery introduction ... because it's me | 21:15 |
| mriedem | i expect nothing less | 21:15 |
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| * jogo waves at mriedem | 21:24 | |
| mriedem | jogo: o/ | 21:24 |
| mriedem | jogo: did you see that we dropped the legacy v2 code? | 21:24 |
| jogo | mriedem sdague: I would read that book | 21:24 |
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| jogo | no I didn't | 21:24 |
| jogo | wow | 21:25 |
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| jogo | congrats, that is a pretty good turnaround. I thought it would take much longer to drop | 21:25 |
| jogo | congrats | 21:25 |
| mriedem | i didn't do any of the work, but i'll take that congrats | 21:26 |
| jogo | isn't that what the PTL does? | 21:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Live migration fails when config_drive_format=iso9660 https://review.openstack.org/234659 | 21:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Giridhar Jayavelu proposed openstack/nova: VMware: support limits via image meta data https://review.openstack.org/180942 | 22:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Giridhar Jayavelu proposed openstack/nova: Objects: add limits, reservations and shares to ImageMetaProps object https://review.openstack.org/188321 | 22:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Luis Tomas proposed openstack/nova: Add automatic switching to postcopy mode when migration is not progressing https://review.openstack.org/328499 | 22:38 |
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