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| mriedem | alaski: on this spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267673/8/specs/newton/approved/flavor-root-disk-none.rst | 00:09 |
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| mriedem | are we able to set the flavor.root_gb field value to None? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/8cfc8a837592c9494608d68db2bac1954c573a4b/nova/objects/flavor.py#L217 | 00:10 |
| mriedem | since it's nullable=False | 00:10 |
| dansmith | we can't easily, but ultimately we have to | 00:11 |
| dansmith | so we'll have to make it nullable and fail if we try to backport a flavor that has it | 00:11 |
| dansmith | maybe limiting it by service version somehow | 00:11 |
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| mriedem | :( | 00:18 |
| mriedem | it's also not as easy as the spec lays out | 00:19 |
| mriedem | b/c bdm blank->local and image->local | 00:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/313743 | 00:31 |
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| tonyb | mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315820/ trivial review for you to ACK | 00:34 |
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| mriedem | tonyb: typo, big -1 | 00:38 |
| mriedem | +1 | 00:39 |
| tonyb | mriedem: really? But I just copied the stable one .... | 00:39 |
| mriedem | no i meant in the commit message | 00:39 |
| tonyb | mriedem: oh :( | 00:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/313743 | 00:44 |
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| mriedem | more details plz https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239276/ | 00:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hieu LE proposed openstack/nova: Remove deprecated "memcached_server" in Default section https://review.openstack.org/315463 | 00:58 |
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| mriedem | cburgess: did you ever get a spec up for specifying volume type when booting from volume and nova creates the volume? | 01:01 |
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| mriedem | rosmaita: i'm confused, that commit message talks about glance | 01:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Skip network validation if explicitly requesting no networks https://review.openstack.org/309602 | 01:35 |
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| tonyb | Is the a reason, other than it hasn't been done, that python-novaclient doesn't use constraints? | 01:52 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | mriedem: Hi, could you check my comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295595/ | 01:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Stop using mox stubs in test_pipelib.py https://review.openstack.org/308806 | 02:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: parameter verification for os-aggregates https://review.openstack.org/315517 | 06:28 |
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| paul-carlton1 | tonyb, did you see my email about the console auth token change? | 06:36 |
| tonyb | paul-carlton1: I did. I've be disagreeing with the gate today so haven't crafted a reply | 06:37 |
| paul-carlton1 | ok, no rush, just want to get this across the finish line at somepoint during Newton! | 06:38 |
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| tonyb | paul-carlton1: that would be very nice :) | 06:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova-specs: Spec for the vendordata reboot. https://review.openstack.org/310904 | 07:05 |
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| bauwser | good morning Nova | 07:14 |
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| muawiakhan | good morning | 07:16 |
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| muawiakhan | guys, can you please review? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299253/ | 07:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Prevent block live migration with tunnelled flag https://review.openstack.org/310707 | 07:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: Parameter verification for os-interface.inc https://review.openstack.org/315318 | 07:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: Example verification for os-interface.inc https://review.openstack.org/315934 | 07:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: Parameter verification for os-volume_attachments.inc https://review.openstack.org/315877 | 07:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: Example verification for os-volume_attachments.inc https://review.openstack.org/315895 | 07:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hieu LE proposed openstack/nova: Config options: remove import_opts from completed section https://review.openstack.org/315443 | 08:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hahyun proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add direct download feature for rbd glance backend https://review.openstack.org/308481 | 08:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/303345 | 08:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/303345 | 08:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Add info for user_id in v2.10 https://review.openstack.org/315951 | 08:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Weiwei Gu proposed openstack/nova: migration volume failed for invalid type https://review.openstack.org/315864 | 08:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Pavlov proposed openstack/nova-specs: delete_on_termination modification spec https://review.openstack.org/234269 | 08:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova: Introduce a CONF flag to determine glance client version https://review.openstack.org/315963 | 08:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Dinesh Bhor proposed openstack/nova: Return HTTP 200 on list for invalid status https://review.openstack.org/315964 | 08:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Fix migration query with unicode status https://review.openstack.org/315965 | 08:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova: Revert "glance:add helper method to get client version" https://review.openstack.org/315968 | 08:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova-specs: VMware: add support for live migration https://review.openstack.org/299207 | 09:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize default flavor option https://review.openstack.org/314123 | 09:15 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: deprecate "default_flavor" config option https://review.openstack.org/314124 | 09:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: config options: move s3 related options https://review.openstack.org/314146 | 09:16 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section "database" + "api_database" https://review.openstack.org/263804 | 09:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Dinesh Bhor proposed openstack/nova: Return HTTP 400 on boot for invalid availability zone https://review.openstack.org/315979 | 09:18 |
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| rvasilets | Hi. Can I pass image that is not related to glance(say its ec2) to novaclient server create? | 09:37 |
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| rvasilets | https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/master/novaclient/v2/servers.py#L1164 | 09:38 |
| rvasilets | Could it be not glance? | 09:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Dinesh Bhor proposed openstack/nova: Return 500 HTTP error for invalid flavor attributes https://review.openstack.org/313234 | 09:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tom Patzig proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add "disable root_disk" option to flavors https://review.openstack.org/267673 | 09:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | does anyone know if os-security-group-rules actually exists...? | 09:41 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ah... found it | 09:43 |
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| ratailor | Can anyone pl review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294491/ | 09:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Jens Rosenboom proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Do not merge, test keystone-v3-only patch https://review.openstack.org/315997 | 09:58 |
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| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: hi | 10:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: hi | 10:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Jens Rosenboom proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Do not merge, test keystone-v3-only patch https://review.openstack.org/315997 | 10:03 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: quick question about your availability for the Cinder-Nova meeting series | 10:03 |
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| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: it would be good if we can find a slot that works for you as well especially as Matt will be on vacation soon | 10:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: sure thing | 10:04 |
| ratailor | johnthetubaguy, do you think that spec is required for this change. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294491 | 10:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: ah, OK, understood | 10:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | ratailor: you could argue it would help to have a blueprint, but its a bug really | 10:05 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: is whole Thursday out for you? | 10:05 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: so I am in the UK, wednesday and thursday I try to stop by 6pm so I can get to rehearsals, other nights, its nearer 7pm | 10:06 |
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| ratailor | johnthetubaguy, could you please give ur suggestion, I think the specs also talks abt implementing "cleanup of instances stuck in deleting task state" using periodic task only. | 10:07 |
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| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: so 1700UTC could work for you on Tuesday for instance, right? | 10:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | ratailor: I don't agree with the need for a spec, basically | 10:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: yeah, that could work, that 6pm-7pm for me | 10:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | I need to get food before the TC meeting, but generally that should be OK | 10:09 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: ok, cool, I will bring it up as an alternative | 10:09 |
| ratailor | johnthetubaguy: once you have time, would you pl comment ur suggestion ? | 10:09 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: Monday works for me as well, so that can be another option | 10:09 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: yeah, that should be fine too, actually Monday/Tuesday are probably the best picks for me at that slot | 10:10 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: I try to avoid Friday if poss, as I'm in Hungary so it's an hour worse | 10:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: ah, totally, friday we will both be looking at our watches :) | 10:10 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: exactly, I'm a workaholic, but Friday is still Friday! :) | 10:11 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: heh, totally with you on that | 10:11 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: I'll send out these alternatives to the sub-team and I hope we can find consensus easily | 10:11 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: :) | 10:11 |
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| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: thanks for the quick sync :) | 10:12 |
| kodokuu | Hi, I try to disable InsecurePlatformWarning for vmware connection. I add requests.packages.urllib3.disable_warnings() in oslo_vmware/service.py but I have always in messages log full spam warning | 10:12 |
| kodokuu | any idea ? | 10:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: np, thanks for chasing that down | 10:12 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: np, I found these sync meetings useful so far so I try to keep them, hopefully after a certain point we can simply move to Gerrit and discuss stuff there | 10:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | kodokuu: so I can't resist saying secure your connection so it doesn't get the warning, but I am guessing thats not possible? | 10:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: sounds cool | 10:14 |
| kodokuu | johnthetubaguy I use auto sign CA for vcenter and hard to me to change CA in vmware | 10:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | kodokuu: can you add that CA into your local certificate chain on the nova-compute node? | 10:15 |
| kodokuu | Need to re-deploy all plateforme | 10:15 |
| kodokuu | I have same pb with ceilometer | 10:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | kodokuu: note: I am no security expert, and I am sure such a person would shoot me down for suggesting that | 10:15 |
| kodokuu | I know I need to add a good CA, And I'll add when I deploy my final plateform. But for now (POC) I need just to disable warnings because my /var is full in 2 hours ;) | 10:16 |
| kodokuu | I bb | 10:16 |
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| johnthetubaguy | kodokuu: does any of this help you? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30405867/how-to-get-python-requests-to-trust-a-self-signed-ssl-certificate | 10:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | kodokuu: I would try #openstack for more help, this is really dev channel, see the topic | 10:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: os-volumes.inc method verification https://review.openstack.org/314325 | 10:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Sudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova: split the glance API path based on config https://review.openstack.org/316007 | 10:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: os-volumes.inc method verification https://review.openstack.org/314325 | 10:28 |
| sdague | alex_xu / johnthetubaguy you able to do a once through on the api-ref reviews. We've got 35 in flight at the moment and would love to get more of those landed | 10:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add a RequestSpec generation migration script https://review.openstack.org/302828 | 10:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Verify requested_destination in the scheduler https://review.openstack.org/314509 | 10:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: WIP: API changes for verifying the scheduler when migrating https://review.openstack.org/315572 | 10:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Resize API operation passing down original RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/312009 | 10:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add requested_destination field to RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/312757 | 10:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Cold migrate using the RequestSpec object https://review.openstack.org/284974 | 10:38 |
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| mdbooth | Does anybody fancy pushing this 1 liner bugfix across the line for me? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315965/ | 10:41 |
| mdbooth | It would give me an enormous sense of wellbeing | 10:41 |
| mdbooth | (already has a +2, btw) | 10:42 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: been working through those this morning | 10:44 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: awesome | 10:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: quick question | 10:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | def update() I am assuming is a POST? | 10:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | by default | 10:45 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: no, it's a PUT | 10:45 |
| sdague | is this the image review? | 10:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315199/1/api-ref/source/os-floating-ips-bulk.inc@76 | 10:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | its this one | 10:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | I was trying to look through the code to convince myself, and I got lost | 10:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, good to know | 10:46 |
| PaulMurray | danpb, hi, I have a question about the live migration completion sepc if your around | 10:46 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Method verification of os-floating-ips-bulk.inc https://review.openstack.org/315199 | 10:46 |
| sdague | it's in the resource model, give me a few and I'll find links (but have to get the baby up now) | 10:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: no problems | 10:47 |
| PaulMurray | danpb, no one has commented on the part about the force-complete flag in the live-migration API call | 10:47 |
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| PaulMurray | danpb, when I mentioned exposing things in the API that is what I was talking about | 10:48 |
| PaulMurray | danpb, and I thought you were negative about that. | 10:48 |
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| PaulMurray | danpb, So as you have given +2 on the spec I assume we just misunderstood each other? | 10:48 |
| PaulMurray | danpb, and you're ok with that part. | 10:48 |
| PaulMurray | mdbooth, that's 9 lines, not 1 | 10:51 |
| * PaulMurray is in a pedantic mood today | 10:52 | |
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| mdbooth | PaulMurray: Bah! The fix is only 1 line :P | 10:52 |
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| danpb | PaulMurray: i was against exposing details of the feature post-copy/auto-converge / etc in the API | 10:54 |
| danpb | PaulMurray: the spec isn't doing that afair | 10:54 |
| PaulMurray | danpb, that was the misunderstanding then - I was talking about the discussion around how to indicate levels of importance | 10:56 |
| PaulMurray | danpb, I like where this has ended up though | 10:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/python-novaclient: [microversion] Bump to 2.27 https://review.openstack.org/316026 | 11:06 |
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| sdague | mdbooth: +A | 11:08 |
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| mdbooth | sdague: Awesome, thanks | 11:08 |
| * mdbooth fixed a bug in a single morning :) | 11:08 | |
| mdbooth | Next step: world peace. | 11:08 |
| sdague | though given that level of detail leaked that far down, I do wonder about fuzzing on those params doing oddities | 11:08 |
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| mdbooth | sdague: Yeah, I thought about that. First check was that it's not making it in a query unadulterated (it's not). | 11:10 |
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| sdague | right, the problem is we don't have something like jsonschema for the query params | 11:11 |
| sdague | if this was in the body, it would be forced to a well formed thing | 11:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anton Arefiev proposed openstack/nova: Fix update inventory for multiple providers https://review.openstack.org/316031 | 11:20 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: can you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314566 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315592/ as those are changes I've got which tweak the extension a bit (including the css), and I'd like to start extracting soon. | 12:12 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: sure, let me do those first | 12:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: I have a few questions/nits, but seems good in general | 12:30 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: sure, let me go look | 12:31 |
| sdague | cool, yeh, let me clean up those. On the sections bit I think the fatal error is kind of ok (at least until this is somewhere that testing is a thing that can be done) | 12:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: report info if parameters are out of order https://review.openstack.org/315592 | 12:41 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: I think once we get the info version landed, and if we get enough of the rest of the api-ref patches in today, I'll just do the reorder and fast run it through. Because it basically goes merge conflict on every patch | 12:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: that totally makes sense | 12:45 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: aggregate_name isn't lost, it's just way further down the file | 12:45 |
| sdague | because it's in the wrong section | 12:45 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: do we have anything in the build that would catch missing params? | 12:45 |
| sdague | yes | 12:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: oh, gotcha | 12:45 |
| sdague | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/1f67ab311422234335cda0e21e74186524617904/api-ref/ext/rest_parameters.py#L220-L225 | 12:45 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I figured it should have failed, yeah, I am cool with fast approve once we are ready | 12:45 |
| sdague | that generates a sphinx warning | 12:45 |
| sdague | which is treated as fatal | 12:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | perfect | 12:46 |
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| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308404/ is where we made that fatal | 12:46 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I thought we turned that on, cools | 12:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | dane-fichter proposed openstack/nova: Add image cache verification https://review.openstack.org/314222 | 13:12 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: re, earlier question on def update == PUT | 13:16 |
| sdague | in the nova code you get to here - https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/1f67ab311422234335cda0e21e74186524617904/nova/api/openstack/__init__.py#L191-L195 | 13:16 |
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| sdague | which takes you here - http://routes.readthedocs.io/en/latest/modules/mapper.html#routes.mapper.Mapper.resource | 13:17 |
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| sdague | which then https://github.com/sdague/routes/blob/3c24bc4273d78376c56c09c5c653b351882f6d6e/routes/mapper.py#L1136 | 13:18 |
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| sdague | and builds stuff like this - https://github.com/sdague/routes/blob/3c24bc4273d78376c56c09c5c653b351882f6d6e/routes/mapper.py#L1100-L1103 | 13:19 |
| sdague | basically routes.Mapper.resource builds out the basic CRUD stubs mapping completely, which is why it's not in our code | 13:19 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: ah, thats it, the last one. thank you, saved me a long time digging :) | 13:23 |
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| sdague | yeh, I had to fix a bug in routes last cycle, so I went all the way down through that path | 13:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: finish validation for os-server-external-events.inc https://review.openstack.org/315212 | 13:35 |
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| mdbooth | Hmm, looks like gate failures might be spiking | 13:42 |
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| dansmith | mdbooth: that's a 12-hour smoothing, | 13:46 |
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| dansmith | so to get that much of spike it has to be pretty terrible | 13:46 |
| mdbooth | dansmith: I guessed as much | 13:46 |
| mriedem | http://logs.openstack.org/86/255686/8/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/e26aa80/console.html#_2016-05-13_09_49_08_808 is new | 13:47 |
| mriedem | well, new fingerprint for the same bug anyway | 13:47 |
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| dansmith | mdbooth: all your patches are in merge conflict (well most).. are you going to get those rebased today? | 13:52 |
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| mdbooth | dansmith: I've been on it for a while. | 13:55 |
| mdbooth | dansmith: One of them conflicted so badly I had to rewrite the tests. | 13:56 |
| dansmith | okay | 13:56 |
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| leakypipes | dansmith, mriedem, bauwser, figleaf: would be awesome to get a final review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300177/ (resource-provider-allocations spec) today if you have time. | 14:00 |
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| leakypipes | mriedem, thorst_: do you know if rlrossit is around? friday casual nick or something? | 14:01 |
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| mriedem | leakypipes: rlrossit is on vacation | 14:03 |
| mriedem | 'drinking beer and shooting guns in montana' is i think how he described what he's going to be doing | 14:03 |
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| leakypipes | mriedem: gotcha. good for him :) | 14:03 |
| * leakypipes pictures John Candy from the Great Outdoors. | 14:04 | |
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| leakypipes | mriedem: is 297871 only -2'd from you (it's your patch) because you are waiting for the get-me-a-network spec to merge? | 14:04 |
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| figleaf | leakypipes: in my queue | 14:08 |
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| leakypipes | figleaf: cheers | 14:10 |
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| mriedem | leakypipes: yes | 14:14 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: given the -1s on this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295595/ can you consider dropping the +2? | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, meant to follow up on that form the meeting | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: I hated their alternative implementation more though, having an API to do multiple snapshots | 14:15 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: that's why i suggested server groups, but that's not much better | 14:16 |
| mriedem | and either way you have to introduce a new state change to the model | 14:16 |
| mriedem | while instances are being quiesced | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, I don't really like us adding more orchestration, which is why we told them to take this approach during the last summit | 14:17 |
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| mriedem | bleh | 14:18 |
| mriedem | there is also the interop issue here | 14:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: update guest time after suspend https://review.openstack.org/316116 | 14:18 |
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| mriedem | i think we pushed back on live resize until we have policy discoverability | 14:18 |
| mriedem | i don't see why we'd be any different about this | 14:18 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, that I think is a reasonable push back | 14:19 |
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| mriedem | also, i just get really really annoyed when the justification for adding more complexity is 'legacy NFV applications need this to move to the cloud' | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: totally with you | 14:19 |
| mriedem | if the cloud bends to them, then why would they ever update their applications? | 14:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Evgeny Antyshev proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add nova volume driver for vzstorage https://review.openstack.org/190843 | 14:20 |
| mriedem | plus there are solutions already in the ecosystem like this dragon project | 14:20 |
| mriedem | it doesn't rely on quiesce because it assumes the application is written to handle failure | 14:20 |
| cihand | mriedem: live resize, as in instance live resize, without restarts? | 14:21 |
| mriedem | as long as the workload is moved and there are snapshots of the data | 14:21 |
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| mriedem | cihand: correct | 14:21 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/303324/ | 14:21 |
| cihand | mriedem: thanks, yep | 14:22 |
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| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141219/ | 14:22 |
| mriedem | ^ is the original spec | 14:22 |
| cihand | mriedem: yeah since we already have a working implementation | 14:22 |
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| claudiub | ooh, live resize discussion. :) | 14:23 |
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| cihand | mriedem: we thought it may be worth trying to push for a libvirt only spep | 14:23 |
| cihand | *spec | 14:23 |
| mriedem | the problem with pushing back and saying you have to wait for discoverable policy is we haven't been consistent about that | 14:23 |
| mriedem | i.e. we haven't said that volume multiattach would also have to wait for that | 14:23 |
| cihand | mriedem: but contributing to cbelu's makes sense too | 14:23 |
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| cihand | mriedem: ok, I see your point | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, I was just thinking about that when I was about to put a -2 on it | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: almost all our new features don't work everywhere | 14:25 |
| mriedem | which, if you're rax, you just disable via policy right | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, it stops folks calling support, so yes | 14:25 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: how does rackspace plan to support all of these nfv use cases?! | 14:26 |
| mriedem | :P | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: by pointing at alternative clouds? | 14:26 |
| mriedem | heh | 14:26 |
| mriedem | maybe charge a consulting fee for that | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: honestly, we sell them a private cloud for that, which is largely what they are wanting, and that runs KVM | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | or RHEL if you want that kind of thing | 14:27 |
| mriedem | yeah....i guess with private you can just customize it out the wahoo | 14:27 |
| mriedem | like the good old days | 14:27 |
| mriedem | you know, | 14:28 |
| mriedem | i actually thought yesterday, someone should just fork nova in github and add all of the nfv stuff they want | 14:28 |
| mriedem | and sell that | 14:28 |
| mriedem | attach/detach sriov, volume multiattach, quiesce api, all of it | 14:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Add a lock() context manager to image backend https://review.openstack.org/279625 | 14:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Rename Raw backend to NoBacking https://review.openstack.org/279626 | 14:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Introduce ImageCacheLocalPool https://review.openstack.org/279669 | 14:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Remove fake_imagebackend.Raw and cleanup dependent tests https://review.openstack.org/267661 | 14:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Rename Image.check_image_exists to Image.exists() https://review.openstack.org/270998 | 14:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Remove unused arguments to images.fetch and images.fetch_to_raw https://review.openstack.org/315582 | 14:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Only attempt to inject files if the injection disk exists https://review.openstack.org/250872 | 14:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Remove deprecated option libvirt.remove_unused_kernels https://review.openstack.org/265886 | 14:28 |
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| mdbooth | superdan: ^^^ if you're still interested | 14:29 |
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| superdan | ah, and reordered I guess | 14:29 |
| superdan | but yeah, was going to try to look at some of those today | 14:29 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: superdan: on that quiesce spec, i'm just not going to be +2 on it in newton, we have other problems to solve first without adding that mess to the mix, and are already overcommitted | 14:30 |
| mriedem | so i'm more than happy on letting the non-priority spec approval freeze take care of that one | 14:30 |
| mdbooth | superdan: Yeah. New top is the most potentially conflict-tastic. | 14:30 |
| mdbooth | It's a mechanical change, though. | 14:31 |
| superdan | mriedem: ack | 14:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: update guest time after suspend https://review.openstack.org/316116 | 14:32 |
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| mriedem | mdbooth: fyi on the lvm testing, i should have a blacklist for the failing tests today and then i can get the job config written | 14:38 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: Parameter verification for os-volume_attachments.inc https://review.openstack.org/315877 | 14:38 |
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| mriedem | good news is volume-backed lvm imagebackend resize passes | 14:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: Example verification for os-volume_attachments.inc https://review.openstack.org/315895 | 14:38 |
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| mdbooth | mriedem: Awesome, thanks. We're still at least a week away from re-landing that stuff, so that should work out well. | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: I think this chain is good to go now: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315877 | 14:39 |
| andrearosa | ildikov: are you around? | 14:40 |
| andrearosa | ildikov: ref multiattach nova spce | 14:41 |
| andrearosa | spec even | 14:41 |
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| ildikov | andrearosa: hi | 14:43 |
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| ildikov | andrearosa: shoot | 14:43 |
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| andrearosa | ildikov: the multi-attach-volume spec it is a bit general, as I commented last time, but if I correctly understood that is done on purpose, am I right? | 14:44 |
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| ildikov | andrearosa: yes, you're right | 14:44 |
| ildikov | andrearosa: the spec should be about how to enable multiattach, I mean really the feature itself | 14:44 |
| andrearosa | ildikov: that is the bit which is confusing me, how can we enable without defining all the details? | 14:45 |
| ildikov | andrearosa: we all know that there are edge cases we need to handle and we identified areas in the Cinder-Nova interaction and also in Cinder to improve and/or simplify | 14:45 |
| ildikov | andrearosa: I don't want to add Cinder implementation details into a Nova spec | 14:46 |
| ildikov | andrearosa: we have a clear dependency before enabling the feature in Nova | 14:47 |
| andrearosa | ildikov: I agree on that. SO probably I missed the point when it has been decided that all the detach stuff is a cinder's responsability | 14:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: limits.inc validate parameters https://review.openstack.org/315216 | 14:47 |
| mriedem | andrearosa: i don't think it is | 14:48 |
| mriedem | andrearosa: the libvirt driver in nova is still going to need to do a check to see if there are multiple attachments for the same volume on the same host and not call disconnect | 14:48 |
| ildikov | andrearosa: it might be almost all or about 90% I would say | 14:48 |
| mriedem | unless something is changing in cinder to fix that | 14:48 |
| andrearosa | mriedem: that's my point, are we (you) ok to approve that spec even if that bit is not clear yet? | 14:48 |
| ildikov | disconnect could only be changed in os-brick | 14:49 |
| ildikov | but then Nova still needs to provide more data to it | 14:49 |
| danpb | mriedem: this is a pre-existing problem that's in fact already causing us alot of pain even in single-attach case | 14:49 |
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| mriedem | os-brick won't maintain state, so if anything changes in brick, it's just nova passing the volume or list of attachments | 14:49 |
| ildikov | but it's still a question whether we can call a new Cinder API to figure it out or we will 'calculate' it for ourselves | 14:49 |
| mriedem | and letting brick decide | 14:49 |
| mriedem | ildikov: oh yeah i forgot about a new cinder api to make that decision for us | 14:50 |
| danpb | nova needs to have a general way to determine whether a particular NFS mount or iSCSI target etc is in use by multiple VMs whether for the same volume or for different volumes | 14:50 |
| mriedem | danpb: there were a few bug fixes up for that right? i seem to remember at least for the *FS cases and you asked them to come up with something generic. | 14:50 |
| danpb | yeah there's multiple bugs open | 14:50 |
| danpb | i think one of them does indeed have a more generic patch up now | 14:50 |
| andrearosa | ildikov: mriedem yes I don't want to discuss it here, as we are not going to find a solution. My question is about the spec if we want it approved even if we have this big open point | 14:50 |
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| mriedem | 1. add multiattach code to nova 2. ? 3. profit | 14:51 |
| mriedem | andrearosa: ^ what don't yo uget about that? :) | 14:51 |
| danpb | i think we want the general solution to cover both single and multiattach cases | 14:51 |
| ildikov | danpb: right | 14:52 |
| andrearosa | :) | 14:52 |
| mriedem | danpb: we don't have a solution for the multattach case yet | 14:52 |
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| mriedem | but yeah | 14:52 |
| mriedem | if the best solution is, cinder provides and api to tell us if it's ok to disconnect, i'm cool with that | 14:52 |
| danpb | fixing the single attach should be a pre-requisite for solving multi-attach i think | 14:52 |
| mriedem | danpb: i'm also good with that | 14:52 |
| mriedem | danpb: what we've been doing in the recent cinder/nova meetings is actually going through existing complexities / bugs between the two services | 14:53 |
| ildikov | so the point is that we have issues in general even for single attach which makes it harder to introduce multiattach, but it does not make these issues a pure multiattach problem | 14:53 |
| mriedem | and trying to shore those up before adding multiattach complexity | 14:53 |
| danpb | this is the new general purpose fix for single-attach https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290510/ | 14:53 |
| mriedem | danpb: i.e. hemna has some wip patches for some cleanups | 14:53 |
| danpb | i've not looked at it in my detail yet though to see whether its sane | 14:53 |
| * andrearosa clicks | 14:53 | |
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| danpb | but you can see it is at lesat trying to address nfs, glusterfs and smbfs at once | 14:54 |
| mriedem | danpb: would be nice if os-brick could do this for us | 14:54 |
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| danpb | its not clear to me that os-brick has enough info todo it ? | 14:54 |
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| ildikov | mriedem: yeah, although my understanding is that the current intention is to keep it stateless and as simple as poss | 14:54 |
| mriedem | what info does it need? | 14:55 |
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| danpb | mriedem: about all guests and their attachments | 14:57 |
| mriedem | ok i see it's saving state | 14:57 |
| mriedem | so yeah... | 14:57 |
| mriedem | not in os-brick | 14:57 |
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| leakypipes | bauwser: 302828 reviewed. please fix (many) typos real quick and re-push and I'll wallaby that. | 14:58 |
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| mriedem | bauwser: leakypipes: i left a comment in the test | 15:00 |
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| PaulMurray | mriedem, I'm very unlikely to ever make the late nova IRC meeting time | 15:12 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add prep-for-network-aware-scheduling spec https://review.openstack.org/313001 | 15:12 |
| PaulMurray | mriedem, would you like me to deliver lm status update somehow? | 15:12 |
| PaulMurray | (in future) | 15:12 |
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| mriedem | PaulMurray: that's ok, i attend the lm meeting so i had some high level notes | 15:13 |
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| mriedem | PaulMurray: if there is anything noteworthy from week to week, just dump those as sub-bullets under that section in the agenda | 15:14 |
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| PaulMurray | mriedem, ok - saw you comments | 15:15 |
| PaulMurray | thanks | 15:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Make Aggregate metadata functions work with API db https://review.openstack.org/297350 | 15:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Block aggregate creation until main database empty https://review.openstack.org/315235 | 15:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Add aggregates tables to the API db. https://review.openstack.org/294806 | 15:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Add data migration methods for Aggregate. https://review.openstack.org/314782 | 15:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Make Aggregate.save work with the API db https://review.openstack.org/305466 | 15:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Aggregate create and destroy work against API db https://review.openstack.org/314781 | 15:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Make Aggregate host operations work against API db https://review.openstack.org/296597 | 15:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Make AggregateList.get_ return API & cell db items https://review.openstack.org/296062 | 15:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Make Aggregate.get operation favor the API db https://review.openstack.org/296014 | 15:16 |
| mriedem | sfinucan: still working on this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290706/ | 15:16 |
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| sfinucan | mriedem: Not for another week or two. Grab it if you want it | 15:18 |
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| claudiub | mriedem: hello. can we merge this in liberty? it seems someone hit this bug: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314590/ | 15:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Julian proposed openstack/nova: Remove DictCompat from FloatingIP https://review.openstack.org/316161 | 15:39 |
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| mriedem | claudiub: no unit tests huh | 15:44 |
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| superdan | mdbooth: you should be selling patches like this to cores for the easy stats: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315582/2 | 15:45 |
| mdbooth | superdan: :) | 15:46 |
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| claudiub | mriedem: seems so. it's mostly removed code. Thanks for the vote. :) | 15:49 |
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| melwitt | I wanted some opinions on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/311794/ that's enabling unit tests for python3. the patch is adding some checks to the XMLMatches function to handle bytes string type | 15:56 |
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| stevemar | mriedem: no outlook on the racy fernet token issue | 15:58 |
| mriedem | melwitt: i think danpb already has something for that | 15:58 |
| mriedem | melwitt: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300509/ | 15:59 |
| lbragstad | mriedem stevemar i'm still working on recreating it | 15:59 |
| lbragstad | I have an idea what's causing it but I haven't been able to reproduce | 15:59 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: well, I found that the lxml.etree.tostring function always returns bytes, no matter python2 or python3 unless you tell it an encoding. I thought in python3 we would want tostring to return a str | 16:01 |
| bauwser | lascii: leakypipes: mriedem: thanks for reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302828/10, will take all your good comments in account | 16:02 |
| bauwser | lascii: leakypipes: mriedem: just the next patch will be done later today as I was afk | 16:02 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: so I was thinking in python3 we should pass encoding=str if six.PY3. but I wasn't completely sure if I'm correct | 16:02 |
| mriedem | melwitt: i saw that, i'm not sure, i'd ask danpb | 16:03 |
| melwitt | mriedem: okay | 16:03 |
| PaulMurray | bauwser, FYI - I'm just building a system to test those patches | 16:04 |
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| PaulMurray | I assume you've already done that though | 16:04 |
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| danpb | melwitt: passing encoding=str to which function ? | 16:05 |
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| melwitt | danpb: lxml.etree.tostring. I found it always returns bytes type, even in python3 http://lxml.de/api/lxml.etree-module.html#tostring | 16:06 |
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| melwitt | danpb: I was thinking in python3 a string function should be return the native string type | 16:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gage Hugo proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: ips.inc example verification https://review.openstack.org/315252 | 16:08 |
| danpb | melwitt: so you mean in the nova/virt/libvirt/config.py file ad encoding=str in the to_xml() method call of etree.tostring() | 16:08 |
| sdague | mriedem: how much do you want me to change that second if to elif? - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315592/3/api-ref/ext/rest_parameters.py | 16:09 |
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| mriedem | sdague: not much | 16:09 |
| sdague | mriedem: do you want to +W it then? | 16:09 |
| mriedem | change it to elf | 16:09 |
| danpb | in a way i think lxml is right in always returning bytes type because an XML document is technically just an array of bytes | 16:09 |
| sdague | I want all the elfs | 16:09 |
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| danpb | you don't know anything about its encoding until you have started parsing the xml prolog to see the encoding attribute | 16:10 |
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| melwitt | danpb: hm, okay. so perhaps the name "tostring" is misleading me | 16:10 |
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| mriedem | sdague: i'll trade you https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316150/ | 16:11 |
| sdague | looking | 16:11 |
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| sdague | mriedem: +2 | 16:11 |
| danpb | melwitt: i think its probably a case that there's no single right answer here | 16:11 |
| danpb | and we should just pick the approach that's clearest to understand | 16:12 |
| danpb | which might be to add encoding=str | 16:12 |
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| melwitt | danpb: in python2 lxml does str == unicode though so not correct for python2 to return unicode as its native string type. when I tried it, I did if six.PY3: encoding=str. | 16:17 |
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| melwitt | danpb: I really was honed in thinking "tostring" means return me a native string. but it's behaving like you described, it's just bytes | 16:18 |
| mriedem | let us just make a policy to drop py3 and unicode support | 16:19 |
| mriedem | fin | 16:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: WIP Make Inventory and ResourceProvider objects use the API DB instead https://review.openstack.org/315682 | 16:33 |
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| ejat | http://paste.ubuntu.com/16392175/ | 16:59 |
| ejat | anyone can help ? | 16:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mike Fedosin proposed openstack/nova-specs: Complete Nova support for Glance's v2 https://review.openstack.org/301741 | 18:33 |
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| superdan | ooh, this is nice: | 18:39 |
| superdan | Filtering removed all hosts for the request with instance ID '36d27ee3-a45a-4e99-963b-6e36e332d8af'. Filter results: ['RetryFilter: (start: 1, end: 1)', 'AvailabilityZoneFilter: (start: 1, end: 1)', 'RamFilter: (start: 1, end: 0)'] | 18:39 |
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| notartom | superdan, I feel like there's context there that's missing | 18:40 |
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| superdan | not really, just that we recently grew some smarter scheduler debug logging and I'm just now noticing | 18:41 |
| notartom | Damn, you used "nice" unironnically | 18:41 |
| superdan | sorry for the confusion :) | 18:42 |
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| * notartom feels like one day one of those tuples will go *up* and we'll have created a compute node out of thin air. | 18:44 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova-specs: Get Me a Network https://review.openstack.org/283206 | 18:47 |
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| EmilienM | superdan: hello! currently puppet-nova creates endpoints to 2.0 version by default. Should we change it to use 2.1 or something else? | 18:51 |
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| superdan | EmilienM: probably, but we should ask sdague | 18:52 |
| superdan | maybe mriedem knows the timeline | 18:52 |
| EmilienM | please tell me the version that people should use by default in Newton and I'll update puppet-nova | 18:52 |
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| superdan | EmilienM: are you asking just in terms of url, or how to setup paste? | 18:52 |
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| superdan | because i think /v2 points to 2.1 by default now | 18:53 |
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| EmilienM | superdan: in term of endpoint URL | 18:53 |
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| mriedem | EmilienM: liberty defaulted to v2.1 and deprecated v2.0 | 18:53 |
| mriedem | so yes, for newton use v2.1 | 18:53 |
| mriedem | actually, we're removing v2.0 in newton | 18:53 |
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| EmilienM | ok | 18:53 |
| EmilienM | thanks! | 18:54 |
| superdan | mriedem: but we're actually using /v2.1 in the URL it looks like, which surprises me | 18:54 |
| mriedem | see https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/remove-legacy-v2-api-code | 18:54 |
| superdan | I thought we were going to make /v2 point to 2.1 | 18:54 |
| EmilienM | I'm preparing a patch in puppet-nova and I'll add you as reviewer | 18:54 |
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| mriedem | superdan: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312314/ | 18:54 |
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| sdague | EmilienM: yeh, we just swapped out compute to point at v2.1 in early mitaka, and it all works | 18:55 |
| sdague | because of the compat layer | 18:55 |
| superdan | mriedem: that doesn't actually remove /v2 or anything | 18:55 |
| sdague | we == "in upstream testing with devstack" | 18:55 |
| superdan | mriedem: so we're going to have /v2 forever (or a long time) that points at the legacy-compat thing? | 18:56 |
| superdan | sdague: ^ | 18:56 |
| sdague | superdan: yeh, I think so | 18:56 |
| superdan | okay | 18:56 |
| superdan | I thought the plan was to make v2 point at the real thing as the endgame | 18:56 |
| sdague | in devstack we call that compute_legacy type, vs. moving compute type to v2.1 | 18:56 |
| sdague | I'm not sure how we do that without breaking people, but I haven't thought it through | 18:57 |
| superdan | sdague: I guess I'm confused.. long term you want people using /v2.1 ? | 18:57 |
| superdan | maybe this is the confusion: | 18:57 |
| superdan | EmilienM: should set up the endpoints to point at whatever is the non-legacy v2.1 url for new installs, whatever that is in the paste he's deploying, right? | 18:57 |
| superdan | the actual url isn't standardized | 18:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeffrey Augustine proposed openstack/nova: WIP Remove DictCompact from KeyPair https://review.openstack.org/316240 | 18:58 |
| sdague | superdan: well, the thing is, you are supposed to go to the service catalog | 18:58 |
| superdan | sdague: right | 18:58 |
| EmilienM | can you guys review https://review.openstack.org/316241 ? | 18:58 |
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| sdague | so /.... mostly doesn't matter, it's what 'compute' points to | 18:58 |
| superdan | sdague: my point exactly.. he should set the service catalog on new installs to point to the v2.1 non-legacy thing, whatever that is in the paste that puppet deploys | 18:58 |
| sdague | yeh | 18:59 |
| sdague | EmilienM: this is mitaka? | 18:59 |
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| EmilienM | sdague: Newton. | 18:59 |
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| superdan | so EmilienM, I think I can't +1 that until you show me what paste looks like :) | 18:59 |
| EmilienM | sdague: but we can backport it to Mitaka if you feel like we need | 18:59 |
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| EmilienM | superdan: we don't touch paste | 18:59 |
| superdan | or if you say "the one in the tree, unchanged" | 18:59 |
| sdague | EmilienM: ok, even better | 18:59 |
| superdan | okay | 18:59 |
| EmilienM | superdan: we pull what packaging provides | 19:00 |
| EmilienM | sdague: ok I'll backport this patch | 19:00 |
| sdague | EmilienM: well, also, you can drop the tenant_id bit | 19:00 |
| superdan | EmilienM: the point is, I think puppet needs to know what is in paste to be right | 19:00 |
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| superdan | EmilienM: unless you just disavow responsibility if the user/packager has changed from the default | 19:00 |
| sdague | superdan: if they are using default paste, it's all good | 19:00 |
| superdan | sdague: right, but he doesn't control the packages, so it _could_ be different | 19:00 |
| sdague | superdan: oh, right, I don't know what their upgrade strategy is there | 19:01 |
| superdan | if someone's packages changed paste to make /v2 be 2.1 really | 19:01 |
| notartom | Doesn't it then become their responsibility to change the puppet module as well? | 19:01 |
| EmilienM | we have some tripleo jobs that test actual upgrades, I'll test it | 19:01 |
| sdague | superdan: sure, though the only real problem is if they had a pre Liberty paste.ini that doesn't have that /v2.1 entries | 19:02 |
| superdan | doing the thing that matches default paste makes sense to me, it's just important to know that the two should actually match | 19:02 |
| superdan | sdague: yep | 19:02 |
| sdague | otherwise, this is all additive, and we really don't care what is on /v2 | 19:02 |
| superdan | sdague: if paste is unchanged | 19:02 |
| sdague | which will be either the legacy or compat | 19:02 |
| sdague | yes | 19:02 |
| sdague | well, even if not | 19:02 |
| sdague | they've pushed compute endpoint to v2.1 | 19:02 |
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| sdague | stuff will just stop talking to the other | 19:02 |
| superdan | right, but the paste is in the package, the endpoints are in puppet | 19:03 |
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| superdan | sdague: to really be right, they'd need to look at the paste and do the right thing based on paste (no, I don't expect them to do that for real, but..) | 19:03 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: Network: fix typo https://review.openstack.org/316243 | 19:06 |
| EmilienM | mriedem: ok so iiuc we also need to drop all v3 stuffs | 19:06 |
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| EmilienM | I think the v3 stuffs are legacy | 19:06 |
| superdan | EmilienM: yes, drop those | 19:07 |
| EmilienM | ok | 19:07 |
| auggy | i have a question about the "verify project id with keystone" spec i've been working on - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294337/ | 19:08 |
| auggy | the original spec had included mention of doing the project id verification on retrieval of quotas and flavor-access entries in addition to setting them | 19:08 |
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| mriedem | auggy: that's because it's a get or create call | 19:09 |
| auggy | ah | 19:09 |
| mriedem | which is super fun | 19:09 |
| auggy | so do we want to return a 403 if the project id is invalid on a get? | 19:09 |
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| auggy | err 400, sorry | 19:09 |
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| auggy | 403 is if the requester doesn't have access, we said we'd return a 400 if the requestor has access but the project id is invalid | 19:10 |
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| auggy | i feel like for the "get" we should communicate to the requester if they have bad data in there so they can delete it, and i also wonder if that is outside of the scope of this spec? | 19:13 |
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| auggy | like if a requester provides a bad project id, and there's data for that project id, rather than throwing a 400 at them, i wonder if we should provide some kind of message.. | 19:14 |
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| superdan | auggy: I'm not sure what you mean | 19:15 |
| EmilienM | mriedem, sdague, superdan: thx for your help btw | 19:15 |
| superdan | EmilienM: np (but I didn't do anything) | 19:16 |
| superdan | except point at smart people | 19:16 |
| auggy | superdan: i'm trying to drum up a correct example | 19:17 |
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| superdan | auggy: okay | 19:17 |
| auggy | but i was thinking like if someone does "quota show mybadprojectid" | 19:17 |
| auggy | and mybadprojectid has entries associated with it because they did that in the past | 19:18 |
| auggy | with the change i'm proposing, we'd throw a 400 because that project id is invalid | 19:18 |
| superdan | I would think that the only thing you should be able to do if the tenant doesn't exist is delete the quota | 19:18 |
| superdan | but if you have a bad record already, we shouldn't just quietly let you keep thinking it was good | 19:18 |
| auggy | yeah that's my thought | 19:19 |
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| superdan | even delete would be nice to validate with keystone for domain admin reasons, but it also means you can't clean up after a user you've already deleted, so.. | 19:19 |
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| sdague | I feel like delete is a little special | 19:20 |
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| sdague | because we want to be able to delete users that don't exist | 19:20 |
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| sdague | so delete quota - if entries in db, not in keystone, 200. if no entries in db, not in keystone, 404. or something | 19:21 |
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| superdan | sure | 19:21 |
| superdan | that's what I said above | 19:21 |
| auggy | i guess my question is, if a user has existing entries from a bad project id, and they do a get command with that project id, do we want to inform them that they have bad entries? | 19:21 |
| superdan | auggy: 404 I think | 19:22 |
| sdague | yeh, I think 404 in that case | 19:22 |
| mriedem | armax: HenryG: are there api docs for auto-allocated-topology anywhere? | 19:22 |
| auggy | ok, so we don't want to inform them that they have bad entries? | 19:22 |
| sdague | we mask it out and don't let you have access to it | 19:22 |
| auggy | ok | 19:22 |
| EmilienM | mriedem: what about osapi_v3 in nova.conf? | 19:22 |
| HenryG | mriedem: no :( | 19:22 |
| sdague | I think that we probably want a nova-manage command to audit | 19:22 |
| EmilienM | should it exist? what default value should we use if it does exist? | 19:22 |
| mriedem | EmilienM: that was removed i think | 19:22 |
| superdan | sdague: yeah was just about to say, some way to clean cruft you can't list | 19:22 |
| sdague | but that's kind of phase 2 | 19:23 |
| superdan | yep | 19:23 |
| mriedem | EmilienM: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/sample_config.html | 19:23 |
| HenryG | mriedem: But we are converting our API ref to RST like you folks | 19:23 |
| EmilienM | ok, I probably missed that | 19:23 |
| sdague | after we've started not letting in any bad data, here is how you figure out how bad junior bob screwed up your quotas | 19:23 |
| auggy | sdague: superdan: that totally makes sense, i just wanted to clarify what the expectation was | 19:23 |
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| sdague | one of these days I'll actually meet a bob that works in IT, and feel bad for all the terrible things I've said he's done over the years | 19:24 |
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| auggy | hahaha | 19:24 |
| auggy | sdague: superdan: i have another question, regarding the policy verification | 19:25 |
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| auggy | in the summit session, we said that we need to provide guidance for operators setting the policy between nova and keystone | 19:25 |
| superdan | auggy: one question per friday, sorry | 19:25 |
| auggy | because this change is dependent on policy information being set correctly between Keystone and Nova | 19:26 |
| mriedem | HenryG: ok, was trying to figure out what the response body is, i guess i can just use this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277683/12/neutron/tests/api/test_auto_allocated_topology.py | 19:26 |
| superdan | auggy: just a release note to start, and a doc bug probably to describe | 19:26 |
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| auggy | superdan: ok great, that was the other thing because we talked about a whole lot of different options for that | 19:26 |
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| melwitt | I'm seeing xen ci -1 a lot today | 19:27 |
| auggy | superdan: sdague: i'm not covering the delete case in this spec because it was essentially ignored in the old spec | 19:27 |
| mriedem | there was a lot of talk with like 2-3 actual things to do from that session | 19:27 |
| mriedem | melwitt: yes | 19:27 |
| HenryG | mriedem: aye. Basically a network id. | 19:27 |
| auggy | "ignored" basically like yeah not gonna touch that | 19:27 |
| mriedem | i'm going to get xen: recheck tattoo'ed on my arm | 19:27 |
| superdan | auggy: assuming delete still works after this for the cruft, then sure | 19:27 |
| auggy | ok, i'll make sure that it's clear that delete still needs to work | 19:28 |
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| mriedem | delete should either work or you get a 404 for an entry that doesn't exist | 19:28 |
| mriedem | b/c you passed the wrong thing | 19:28 |
| auggy | and that "phase 2" will involve some kind of cruft cleaning mechanism | 19:28 |
| mriedem | delete shouldn't create a new record and then delete it :) | 19:28 |
| auggy | mriedem: right | 19:28 |
| mriedem | but with quotas who knows | 19:28 |
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| auggy | hahahaa | 19:28 |
| auggy | mriedem: ok cool i'll just make sure it's clear in the spec and i'll double check the code to make sure it's not currenlty doing that | 19:28 |
| mriedem | cruft cleaning mechanism http://www.amazon.com/MANGROOMER-Ultimate-Shaver-Absorber-Extreme/dp/B00FULYKG4/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1463167744&sr=8-1&keywords=mangroomer+pro | 19:29 |
| mriedem | "and Power Burst" | 19:29 |
| mriedem | for those hard to shave places | 19:29 |
| auggy | "mangroomer pro" haha | 19:29 |
| andrewbogott | I could use reviews and/or guidance about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301861/ — there's been some email-list discussion of that feature but maybe I need a blueprint? | 19:30 |
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| auggy | mriedem: hrm i feel like this one needs a metaphor - http://www.amazon.com/GoateeSaver-Shaving-Template-Perfectly-Adjustable/dp/B001F2B3P8/ref=sr_1_2_s_it | 19:31 |
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| mriedem | Adjustable and Fits Most Face Sizes | 19:31 |
| mriedem | except for you, big face bob | 19:31 |
| mriedem | who works in IT | 19:31 |
| mriedem | at dague co. | 19:31 |
| sdague | melwitt: xen ci has been sad face most of the week | 19:32 |
| sdague | it's -1ed nearly every api-ref patch | 19:32 |
| auggy | it hates us :( | 19:32 |
| auggy | xen ci hates america | 19:32 |
| notartom | Terrist! | 19:34 |
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| figleaf | mriedem: How about BIGMOUTH? http://www.amazon.com/baKblades-BIGMOUTH-Yourself-Back-Shaver/dp/B00BPBLMCS/ref=pd_sim_194_5?ie=UTF8&dpID=41cm0rn87SL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=0FKDVK31AYZ36R2XR3VE | 19:37 |
| mriedem | i like that all of the models for these back shaving products look like they've never had any sort of body hair issue | 19:38 |
| figleaf | mriedem: well, that's because the products WORK SO WELL!! | 19:39 |
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| auggy | i just looked to see if there were any marketed towards women and the best i found was regular leg shavers accompanied with a photo of a woman showing off her back | 19:44 |
| auggy | http://www.amazon.com/LuckyFine-Washable-Removal-Cordless-Ladyshave/dp/B017H5RAKI/ | 19:46 |
| superdan | ah, yes, the venerable LuckyFine corporation | 19:46 |
| auggy | i really just want to leave a fake review about how my back is now as smooth as the model's | 19:46 |
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| EmilienM | mriedem, sdague, superdan: I addressed all your comments, please have a last look when you have time: https://review.openstack.org/316241 -- thanks again | 19:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add a RequestSpec generation migration script https://review.openstack.org/302828 | 19:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Verify requested_destination in the scheduler https://review.openstack.org/314509 | 19:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: WIP: API changes for verifying the scheduler when migrating https://review.openstack.org/315572 | 19:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Resize API operation passing down original RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/312009 | 19:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add requested_destination field to RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/312757 | 19:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Cold migrate using the RequestSpec object https://review.openstack.org/284974 | 19:58 |
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| doffm | So the libvirt SshDriver. Does anyone know of a reason why we don't provide a 'user' option for this class? Seems like something useful, to ssh to other hosts as a different / more restricted user. | 19:58 |
| doffm | I suppose that user would have to have access to the images directory anyway, so could pretty clearly destroy everything. | 19:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Augustina Ragwitz proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add Keystone project validation to quota and flavor management https://review.openstack.org/294337 | 20:08 |
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| armax | mriedem, HenryG anything else I can help you with? | 20:17 |
| mriedem | nope, i think i have it, thanks | 20:18 |
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| mriedem | just got the nova neutronv2 allocate for instance code using auto-allocated-topology | 20:18 |
| mriedem | just writing unit tests now | 20:18 |
| armax | mriedem: you’re using the cloud bindings right? | 20:19 |
| mriedem | cloud bindings? | 20:19 |
| armax | mriedem: client | 20:19 |
| mriedem | yes | 20:19 |
| mriedem | fo sho | 20:19 |
| mriedem | i can push it up quick | 20:19 |
| armax | mriedem: kwel, I was going to have a pass to the spec later today | 20:19 |
| armax | johnthetubaguy told me it looks good to go | 20:20 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy should put a +2 on it then :) | 20:20 |
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| armax | HenryG: ^ a look from you won’t hurt https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283206/ | 20:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Skip network allocation if 'none' is requested https://review.openstack.org/309638 | 20:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: nova-net: handle 'auto' network request in allocate_for_instance https://review.openstack.org/297906 | 20:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Skip network validation if explicitly requesting no networks https://review.openstack.org/309602 | 20:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Add helpers to NetworkRequest(List) objects for auto/none cases https://review.openstack.org/297871 | 20:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: neutron: validate auto-allocate is available https://review.openstack.org/309574 | 20:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: neutron: handle 'auto' network request in allocate_for_instance https://review.openstack.org/316275 | 20:20 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/316275 is the new one | 20:20 |
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| sdague | mriedem: you will be happy to know that I figured out extracting the sphinx extension from nova into a dedicated lib today | 20:23 |
| sdague | so by early next week we should have it out of tree, and I won't keep bugging you with nova reviews of it (though you are welcome to be a reviewer on it if you like) | 20:23 |
| mriedem | sdague: that doesn't work for mtreinish, it won't work for you | 20:24 |
| sdague | heh | 20:24 |
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| armax | mriedem: question | 20:36 |
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| mriedem | armax: shoot | 20:41 |
| * mriedem hopes it's easy | 20:41 | |
| armax | mriedem: nm :) | 20:41 |
| mriedem | awesome | 20:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: reorder parameters.yaml https://review.openstack.org/315617 | 20:51 |
| sdague | mriedem: I'm going to fast self approve that now, as the gate is empty, and we probably merged all we will this week | 20:52 |
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| sdague | then the parameter list will be enforced order | 20:52 |
| mriedem | sdague: do what you got to do | 20:53 |
| sdague | mriedem: it's self testing, so we can't have lost anything in the process | 20:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Make some build_requests columns nullable https://review.openstack.org/305514 | 20:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Keep BuildRequest db entry around longer https://review.openstack.org/302425 | 20:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Drop fields from BuildRequest object and model https://review.openstack.org/305953 | 20:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Use getattr rather than dict access in compare_obj https://review.openstack.org/316285 | 20:56 |
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| figleaf | While its quiet and Jenkins is green, could we push through these api config options help improvement changes, starting with this one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309193/ | 21:06 |
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| mriedem | woot lvm testing passed | 21:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: neutron: handle 'auto' network request in allocate_for_instance https://review.openstack.org/316275 | 21:20 |
| mriedem | ^ beautiful | 21:21 |
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| mriedem | leakypipes: check out all that testing glory | 21:21 |
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| efried | sdague, got a sec for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310923/ ? | 21:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Add RC file for excluding tempest tests for LVM job https://review.openstack.org/316295 | 21:32 |
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| mriedem | doffm: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/doc/api_samples/os-aggregates/aggregates-get-resp.json | 21:38 |
| superdan | I +2d the bottom four patches of figleaf's set.. easy +Ws: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309193/6 | 21:40 |
| superdan | also two easy patches for libvirt storage pools, starting here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315582/2 | 21:40 |
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| mriedem | lvm job for the experimental queue for mdbooth's refactor series https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316298/ | 21:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Sujitha proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Improve help text for availability zones options https://review.openstack.org/316300 | 21:45 |
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| mriedem | it's annoying that the live migration job stops after the first set of failures | 21:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: DNM: keep testing live migration despite test failures https://review.openstack.org/316302 | 21:51 |
| mriedem | jbernard: melwitt: that top change will run the full live migration suite despite failures ^ | 21:51 |
| leakypipes | doffm: for the created_at, updated_at fields, I didn't realize those leaked out the API. in that case, never mind :) | 21:51 |
| melwitt | mriedem: eureka! | 21:51 |
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| doffm | leakypipes: Yeah, the aggregate_show method basically loops over all fields and passes them out in to the api. Should probably fix that. | 21:55 |
| doffm | Well, maybe not. If it ever passes something out that someone doesn't expect the api sample tests should fail. | 21:57 |
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| doffm | So... Yay api sample tests. | 21:57 |
| figleaf | superdan: thanks | 21:57 |
| superdan | figleaf: np, thanks for doing that stuff | 21:57 |
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| leakypipes | doffm: yes, we should indeed :) | 21:59 |
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| superdan | alaski: similarly surprised about those two options you commented on | 22:09 |
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| melwitt | does anyone know how to make the logging go to the screen even when a test succeeds in a unit test? | 22:12 |
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| superdan | melwitt: I make it fail :) | 22:48 |
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| melwitt | superdan: I realized that after I asked, of course. I added a "self.fail()" at the end :) | 22:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Follow-up for the API config option patch https://review.openstack.org/316312 | 23:07 |
| figleaf | superdan: alaski: ^^ Addresses your comments | 23:08 |
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| alaski | superdan: it's just craziness | 23:16 |
| alaski | seems like good deprecation candidates to me | 23:16 |
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