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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Remove legacy v2 API code completely https://review.openstack.org/311653 | 00:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Li Yingjun proposed openstack/nova-specs: Hypervisor notifications spec https://review.openstack.org/299807 | 01:25 |
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| dansmith | doffm: nicely put.. nicer than I could have, at least. | 02:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: New configuration classes to parse device address element https://review.openstack.org/304147 | 02:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: attach configdrive after instance spawn https://review.openstack.org/303335 | 02:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: db: adding path, serial and address fields to block devices https://review.openstack.org/310615 | 02:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: db: adding bus and bus_address to virtual interfaces https://review.openstack.org/310616 | 02:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: objects: adding serial, path, bus_address fields to bdm object https://review.openstack.org/310617 | 02:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: objects: adding bus and bus_address to virtual interfaces object https://review.openstack.org/310618 | 02:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: Device tagging metadata API support https://review.openstack.org/304511 | 02:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: Device tagging API support https://review.openstack.org/304510 | 02:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: Compute manager device tagging support https://review.openstack.org/264017 | 02:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: Libvirt driver implementation of device tagging https://review.openstack.org/264016 | 02:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Wenzhi Yu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Move calculation of 'disk_available_least' to ResourceTracker https://review.openstack.org/293272 | 02:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Remove the legacy v2 API test scenarios from API sample tests https://review.openstack.org/312313 | 02:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Remove the legacy v2 API entry from api-paste.ini https://review.openstack.org/312314 | 02:48 |
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| oomichi_ | alex_xu: the above sample test patch is already tested on your env? | 02:51 |
| oomichi_ | alex_xu: if so, will +2 soon | 02:51 |
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| alex_xu | oomichi_: the remove entry from api-paste.ini not test yet, just be push to work on another work...:( | 02:52 |
| alex_xu | oomichi_: will revisit it if that found anything else still test on the whole legacy v2 stack. | 02:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova-specs: Allow user to define the shutdown method through API when stop instances https://review.openstack.org/293790 | 02:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Add check of capabilities for detach interface and fix support matrix https://review.openstack.org/308115 | 02:55 |
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| doffm | dansmith: Thanks. I 'may' have thought about what to say a little too much this afternoon. | 03:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Wenzhi Yu proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox from unit/api/openstack/compute/test_block_device_mapping.py https://review.openstack.org/308120 | 03:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove legacy v2 unit tests[q-v] https://review.openstack.org/311656 | 03:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove legacy v2 unit tests[f-n] https://review.openstack.org/311658 | 03:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove legacy v2 unit tests[a-e] https://review.openstack.org/311659 | 03:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Remove legacy v2 API code completely https://review.openstack.org/311653 | 03:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Fix unit tests for v2.1 API https://review.openstack.org/312320 | 03:39 |
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| oomichi_ | alex_xu: three patches are ready to be reviewed on https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/remove-legacy-v2-api-code | 03:54 |
| oomichi_ | alex_xu: can you take a look at them? | 03:54 |
| oomichi_ | alex_xu: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/311656/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312320/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/311659/ | 03:55 |
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| alex_xu | oomichi_: yea, got it, will check them asap | 04:49 |
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| oomichi_ | alex_xu: xiexie | 04:51 |
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| alex_xu | oomichi_: :) | 04:52 |
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| alex_xu | oomichi_: do we plan to remove extension in newton? | 04:56 |
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| oomichi_ | alex_xu: according to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-api | 04:57 |
| oomichi_ | alex_xu: the plan is unclear for me :-( | 04:57 |
| alex_xu | oomichi_: ok, let's make it clear in the api meeting | 04:58 |
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| oomichi_ | alex_xu: we need nova-spec for clear understanding | 04:58 |
| alex_xu | oomichi_: yea, i guess so. | 04:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | LisaLi proposed openstack/nova: Attach/detach encryptors during swap_volume https://review.openstack.org/252809 | 06:42 |
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| bauzas | good morning Nova | 07:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova-specs: Support "locked" filter when list servers https://review.openstack.org/292749 | 07:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add support for non-admin users to query their own deleted instances https://review.openstack.org/292769 | 07:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Luis Tomas proposed openstack/nova-specs: Adds post-copy live migration support to Nova https://review.openstack.org/301509 | 07:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/303345 | 08:10 |
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| bauzas | is someone knowing that we have a problem with the Tempest identity gate because of negative tests ? | 08:33 |
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| bauzas | eg. http://logs.openstack.org/09/312009/2/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/918ec76/console.html#_2016-05-04_08_12_02_998 | 08:33 |
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| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: hope you got home from the summit OK | 08:42 |
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| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: sneti was wondering if you could take a look at the follow up comments on here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290156 | 08:42 |
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| gibi | johnthetubaguy: hi! if you have some time could you check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286675/ Versioned notification transformation? | 08:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sivasathurappan Radhakrishnan proposed openstack/nova: Centralize config option for nova/network/driver.py https://review.openstack.org/312391 | 08:59 |
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| johnthetubaguy | gibi: ah yes, I will try, keep bugging me! | 09:00 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy: thanks | 09:02 |
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| kashyap | The GitHub mirror of Nova liberty tree seems not update with the git.openstack.org/[...]?h=stable/liberty | 09:04 |
| kashyap | Compare these two files: This has 11841 lines: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/tests/unit/compute/test_compute.py?h=stable/liberty. While the same GitHub mirrored file has 11369 lines: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/liberty/nova/tests/unit/compute/test_compute.py | 09:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Li Yingjun proposed openstack/nova-specs: Hypervisor notifications spec https://review.openstack.org/299807 | 09:12 |
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| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: Could you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309239/ please? It's part of a large change set and many of its descendants is already verified. | 09:15 |
| markus_z | I'm going to check the rest of this series today | 09:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peng Li proposed openstack/nova: fix wrong key name in test code https://review.openstack.org/312051 | 09:47 |
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| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: very good point, I would love to get all those moves merged, and completed | 10:02 |
| hieulq | markus_z: thanks for reminding johnthetubaguy, hope John are fully recovered after summit :) | 10:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | getting close to recovered, almost there :) | 10:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Remove the legacy v2 API test scenarios from API sample tests https://review.openstack.org/312313 | 10:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Remove the legacy v2 API entry from api-paste.ini https://review.openstack.org/312314 | 10:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Remove legacy v2 API functional tests https://review.openstack.org/312422 | 10:05 |
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| lxsli | rpodolyaka: hi Roman, thanks for your comment re: add_bw_usage_cache_fk | 10:20 |
| lxsli | rpodolyaka: do you have an example of an online schema migration please? | 10:20 |
| rpodolyaka | lxsli: just a sec | 10:21 |
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| rpodolyaka | lxsli: I think dansmith has implemented a few of those already :) | 10:22 |
| rpodolyaka | lxsli: how about https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/e05acd2005d22556918a60a7621e463b593c34e6 ? | 10:22 |
| rpodolyaka | tbh, I only briefly took a look at this one | 10:23 |
| rpodolyaka | but this should give you the general idea | 10:23 |
| lxsli | looks like another data migration to me? | 10:23 |
| rpodolyaka | yeah, it's just that the data migration is separated from the schema one | 10:24 |
| rpodolyaka | so that you don't do it at the nova-manage db upgrade time | 10:24 |
| lxsli | So I'll still need a migration script (332_add_bw_usage_cache_fk.py) to do the schema migration? | 10:25 |
| rpodolyaka | yes | 10:25 |
| rpodolyaka | but you don't change / delete DB rows there | 10:25 |
| lxsli | Does the online migration machinery ensure that schema migrations aren't run until all online data migrations return 0 affected rows? | 10:26 |
| rpodolyaka | it should :) it must be up to the operator to call nova-manage multiple times | 10:27 |
| lxsli | OK great thank you, very helpful | 10:27 |
| rpodolyaka | np! | 10:27 |
| rpodolyaka | sorry, I can't give you much details :( | 10:27 |
| lxsli | That's enough I hope! | 10:27 |
| lxsli | otherwise I'll bug you again :) | 10:27 |
| rpodolyaka | I only briefly looked at this myself :( | 10:27 |
| lxsli | or mr. smith | 10:27 |
| rpodolyaka | :) | 10:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Complete Method Verification of ips https://review.openstack.org/312434 | 10:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: virt: set address space limit when running qemu-img https://review.openstack.org/307663 | 10:34 |
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| kashyap | Any hints as to how do I translate this mock to Kilo-code base? -- @mock.patch('nova.objects.ImageMeta.from_image_ref') | 10:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add spec for lower case metadata keys only https://review.openstack.org/311529 | 11:31 |
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| * alex_xu reminders api meeting in 8 mins | 12:53 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Create storage pools and volumes https://review.openstack.org/311092 | 12:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mikhail Feoktistov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: ephemeral disk support for virtuozzo containers https://review.openstack.org/312488 | 13:00 |
| * alex_xu reminders nova-api meeting is running | 13:00 | |
| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: hieulq: The libvirt config option patch series is OK IMO. I left a comment in the last change. From the second patch on, the [libvirt] section will appear twice in the docs job because they are still based on ps2 instead of ps3 of the first change in this series. At first a little confusing but it's not worth rebasing everything IMO. | 13:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: cool, I think I hit that all with a +2 now right? | 13:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | assuming its the same series I was looking at | 13:03 |
| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: yep, you did. I just double-checked them. :) | 13:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: awesome, just checking I was on the correct set of patches | 13:03 |
| markus_z | hieulq: Please be aware that the follow up patches which improve the help texts are the main part of the bp. Ping me when you need help with them. | 13:04 |
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| bauzas | alaski: just tbc, I was commenting in my spec http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/newton/approved/check-destination-on-migrations-newton.html#work-items that the new "requested_destination" field should be persisted, but given our discussion and the friday contributors meetup, do you agree with me not persisting it ? | 13:19 |
| bauzas | because it's like for the force_hosts, there is no reason to persist it in case of a later migration or move | 13:19 |
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| markus_z | Does anyone know details about http://logstash.openstack.org/#/dashboard/file/logstash.json?from=86400s&query=message:%5C%22Details:%20%7Bu'title':%20u'Unauthorized',%20u'code':%20401,%20u'message':%20u'The%20request%20you%20have%20made%20requires%20authentication.'%7D%5C%22 | 13:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Hironori Shiina proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox from tests/unit/network/test_api.py https://review.openstack.org/303805 | 13:25 |
| markus_z | fails for nova, cinder, neutron, os-brick | 13:25 |
| markus_z | but only ~100 in the last 24 hours | 13:26 |
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| mriedem | markus_z: i was seeing that yesterday, looks like keystone regressed something | 13:29 |
| mriedem | i haven't followed up with that team though | 13:29 |
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| markus_z | mriedem: I'll ask them | 13:30 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: markus_z: I noticed that problem earlier in the chan | 13:34 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: AFAICS, there is no open bug yety | 13:35 |
| bauzas | http://logs.openstack.org/09/312009/2/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/918ec76/console.html#_2016-05-04_08_12_02_998 | 13:35 |
| mriedem | can someone open that bug? | 13:35 |
| mriedem | i'll check to see what keystone libs were released recently | 13:35 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: I'll do that | 13:37 |
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| markus_z | The first occurrence seems to be on 04/30 | 13:38 |
| bauzas | mriedem: markus_z: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1578210 | 13:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1578210 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "Keystone fails negative tests with unauthenticated users" [Undecided,New] | 13:40 |
| markus_z | thanks | 13:40 |
| bauzas | wondering if https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1577558 could be related | 13:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1577558 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "v2.0 fernet tokens audit ids are inconsistent" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Lance Bragstad (lbragstad) | 13:41 |
| mriedem | bauzas: markus_z: this is probably it https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/commit/5b83e986de80cffb26ac717121458545c78d6245 | 13:42 |
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| mriedem | merged on 4/29 | 13:42 |
| mriedem | changed devstack to use fernet by default | 13:42 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: yup, hence my related bug | 13:42 |
| lbragstad | mriedem the patch I have in review is a partial fix to the default in devstack | 13:42 |
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| * markus_z google "fernet tokens" ... | 13:42 | |
| lbragstad | er, the change in devstack for fernet to be default | 13:42 |
| bauzas | lbragstad: you mean https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1577558 right? | 13:43 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1577558 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "v2.0 fernet tokens audit ids are inconsistent" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Lance Bragstad (lbragstad) | 13:43 |
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| lbragstad | bauzas yes | 13:43 |
| lbragstad | bauzas your link to http://logs.openstack.org/09/312009/2/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/918ec76/console.html#_2016-05-04_08_12_02_998 looks specific to v2 | 13:44 |
| lbragstad | which makes sense | 13:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Hironori Shiina proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox from tests/unit/conductor/tasks/test_live_migrate.py(1) https://review.openstack.org/303833 | 13:44 |
| bauzas | lbragstad: yup, hence me thinking it was related, given I was knowing that fernet tokens were either about to be or were used | 13:45 |
| bauzas | lbragstad: but I'm not a keystone dev, could you please confirm we're getting unscoped token with the test I mentioned ? | 13:45 |
| bauzas | because unauth and unscoped are two different things, right? | 13:45 |
| lbragstad | bauzas yeah | 13:46 |
| bauzas | meaning you have a token, but not scoped to a specific thing | 13:46 |
| lbragstad | right but it will still have audit ids in the authentication response | 13:46 |
| lbragstad | regardless of scope | 13:46 |
| bauzas | because the testname confuses me "without_token" | 13:46 |
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| bauzas | it's been a while since I played with unscoped tokens and directly used the API... | 13:47 |
| lbragstad | bauzas you mean this - tempest.api.identity.admin.v2.test_roles_negative.RolesNegativeTestJSON.test_remove_user_role_request_without_token ? | 13:47 |
| bauzas | yeah | 13:47 |
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| bauzas | or any test in error that I pointed out in the log | 13:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: release serial console ports when destroying guests https://review.openstack.org/301247 | 13:48 |
| bauzas | lemme read the Tempest tests | 13:48 |
| bauzas | to understand what they do | 13:48 |
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| alaski | bauzas: requested_destination does seem like force_host. What I would like to see is that it's persisted when it's used, but then removed on a later scheduler call. | 13:50 |
| lbragstad | bauzas doing the same | 13:51 |
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| bauzas | alaski: so I dunno if we should even persist that | 13:52 |
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| bauzas | alaski: but that looks acceptable if we consider troubleshooting why it went to that host | 13:53 |
| bauzas | ok, I'll persist it | 13:53 |
| alaski | right, that's why I think it makes sense to persist it | 13:53 |
| bauzas | k | 13:53 |
| bauzas | alaski: I actually think we could have a bug now given we persist force_hosts and don't wipe it up when calling the scheduler again | 13:54 |
| alaski | hmm, I thought that was just fixed, or had a patch up | 13:54 |
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| mriedem | lbragstad: bauzas: which bug are we using for tracking? i need to write the e-r query | 13:55 |
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| bauzas | alaski: mmm, you're right https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297387/ | 13:56 |
| bauzas | looks like I'm still a bit jetlagged | 13:56 |
| lbragstad | mriedem I know https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1577558 is open | 13:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1577558 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "v2.0 fernet tokens audit ids are inconsistent" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Lance Bragstad (lbragstad) | 13:56 |
| lbragstad | not sure if you're tracking it somewhere else | 13:56 |
| mriedem | just https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1578210 | 13:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1578210 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "Keystone fails negative tests with unauthenticated users" [High,Confirmed] | 13:56 |
| mriedem | but we can dupe that | 13:56 |
| lbragstad | ok - your call | 13:57 |
| mriedem | done | 13:57 |
| bauzas | before duping it, are we sure both are related ? | 13:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: os-vif: convert libvirt driver to use os-vif library https://review.openstack.org/269672 | 13:58 |
| markus_z | mriedem: You can decline the backport nomination for https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.config/+bug/1568820 | 13:58 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1568820 in oslo.config "Duplicate sections in generated config" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Ben Nemec (bnemec) | 13:58 |
| markus_z | whops, wrong path, this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1568820 | 13:59 |
| cdent | sdague, mriedem is osc the destination for admin-only commands? | 13:59 |
| sdague | cdent: it's a good question | 13:59 |
| cdent | I've heard mixed responses | 13:59 |
| mriedem | cdent: osc team doesn't want them there no | 13:59 |
| sdague | I have as well | 13:59 |
| cdent | the resource-pools api is admin only | 13:59 |
| mriedem | from the tuesday session last week thta's what i was hearing anyway | 14:00 |
| sdague | I feel like we probably need a discussion to solve that once and for all | 14:00 |
| sdague | maybe that's a good mailing list conversation, because there are a lot of conflicting statements about all that | 14:00 |
| mriedem | but they were specifically talking about the messy admin orchestration clis in novaclient, like the one that evacuates/live migrates all of your instances at once | 14:00 |
| mriedem | an option is those could continue to live in novaclient as an osc plugin, but that seems to defeat the purpose of having osc remain simple | 14:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Hironori Shiina proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox from tests/unit/conductor/tasks/test_live_migrate.py(2) https://review.openstack.org/312519 | 14:01 |
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| mriedem | markus_z: why? is oslo.config fixed in mitaka? | 14:01 |
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| markus_z | No, but I checked the stable/mitaka and tagged releases and we don't have duplicate sections there. | 14:02 |
| tojuvone_ | sdague: I'd still have question to get spec going for the maintenance thingy | 14:02 |
| markus_z | mriedem: The reason of the duplications got introduced at the beginning of Newton | 14:02 |
| mriedem | markus_z: ah ok | 14:03 |
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| tojuvone_ | sdaque: so to use the existing disabled_reason and put also to compute_node | 14:03 |
| cdent | sdague, mriedem I'll post some hand-wavey questions about the placement cli and osc to the ML later today unless one of you would prefer to do something more general? | 14:04 |
| tojuvone_ | sdaque: or totally new attribute and API to set it? | 14:04 |
| mriedem | cdent: works for me | 14:04 |
| cdent | roger. before that I must lunch or faint, biab | 14:04 |
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| sdague | tojuvone_: I need to think through the problem at bit more, and actually leave some comments on the spec | 14:05 |
| sdague | the thing I'm concerned about is that right now disabled_reason is on a service, which has a host.id reference | 14:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova-specs: resource-providers: generic resource pools https://review.openstack.org/300176 | 14:06 |
| sdague | and then we imply the affected services because they also have a host.id reference | 14:06 |
| sdague | but, it does assume 1x1 service <=> host | 14:06 |
| tojuvone_ | Yes, that is a problem with the existing | 14:06 |
| jaypipes | sdague, mriedem, cdent: ^^ answered your questions and fixed the spec up. would appreciate your re-review. | 14:06 |
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| sdague | and there keeps being times where that may or my not be a thing | 14:06 |
| sdague | like what does this all mean for baremetal | 14:07 |
| jaosorior | Hello, does anybody know the status on the vendordata drivers? will they be deprecated then? | 14:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova-specs: resource-providers: generic resource pools https://review.openstack.org/300176 | 14:07 |
| mriedem | jaosorior: they were deprecated in mitaka | 14:08 |
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| mriedem | jaosorior: there are some specs up for review to fill the gap | 14:08 |
| jaosorior | mriedem: Got a link? Would really like to check them out | 14:08 |
| mriedem | so i don't think we're removing that ability just yet, until we have an idea of there being a decent replacement | 14:08 |
| mriedem | jaosorior: see v | 14:08 |
| mriedem | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-summit-unconference | 14:08 |
| sdague | there is also an ops ML thread | 14:09 |
| mriedem | first section on wed | 14:09 |
| sdague | on proposed replacement | 14:09 |
| tojuvone_ | sdaque: ok, so if you have comment to spec and let's see forward | 14:09 |
| sdague | tojuvone_: yeh, I will, sorry, was just thinking aloud so far | 14:09 |
| mriedem | jaosorior: yeah http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2016-April/010179.html | 14:09 |
| sdague | jaypipes: the jsonschema for properties still seems weird | 14:09 |
| sdague | for the patternProperties | 14:10 |
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| mriedem | jaosorior: and http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2016-May/010320.html | 14:10 |
| jroll | sdague: fwiw, ironic has its own concept of per-ironic-node maintenance in its API, I don't think we'd ever want to use disabled_reason in nova | 14:10 |
| sdague | jroll: sure, but if nova marks a compute service as disabled, then it exposes a bunch of your baremetal as on a disabled host, what does that mean? | 14:11 |
| jaosorior | mriedem: thanks | 14:11 |
| tojuvone_ | sdague: Thanks :) Need to soon head for summer cabin to refresh my head :D National holiday. | 14:11 |
| sdague | tojuvone_: enjoy :) | 14:12 |
| jroll | sdague: well, given we only support one compute service today, that isn't something an operator should do :) | 14:13 |
| jroll | idk, it is a good question | 14:13 |
| tojuvone_ | sdague: And also kinda agree with that filtering. Have to look a bit anyhow still. | 14:13 |
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| jaypipes | sdague: those are the resource class names. anything other than a / seemed to be an OK naming constraint? | 14:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: sorry I got pulled away, but a good point on the CLI, we shouldn't just jam that in nova-client | 14:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hironori Shiina proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox from tests/unit/conductor/tasks/test_live_migrate.py(3) https://review.openstack.org/312529 | 14:16 |
| dansmith | tojuvone_: it's not nice to talk about your summer cabin without inviting the rest of us :) | 14:16 |
| sdague | jaypipes: ok, so including \t \n | 14:16 |
| paul-carlton1 | mriedem, re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308198 you asked danbp if it needed a spec | 14:17 |
| sdague | space characters? | 14:17 |
| jaypipes | sdague: fair enough :) how about \w+? | 14:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Create storage pools and volumes https://review.openstack.org/311092 | 14:18 |
| sdague | jaypipes: sure, though probably worth then saying [a-zA-z0-9_] to be explicit | 14:18 |
| mriedem | paul-carlton1: did i? | 14:18 |
| paul-carlton1 | but andrearosa thinks it needs an API version bump because the response of live migration changes if the instance is in a rescued state, is he right? | 14:18 |
| jaypipes | sdague: what, no unicode?! :P | 14:18 |
| jaypipes | sdague: I'm cool with that. | 14:18 |
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| paul-carlton1 | mriedem, I think so, it was back before Austin | 14:19 |
| sdague | [a-zA-Z0-9-_:. ] is the current metadata key value | 14:19 |
| mriedem | not for long | 14:19 |
| sdague | maybe just drop space from that | 14:19 |
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| sdague | mriedem: well, until people approve the spec | 14:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Resize API operation passing down original RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/312009 | 14:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Cold migrate using the RequestSpec object https://review.openstack.org/284974 | 14:19 |
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| tojuvone_ | dansmith: :D | 14:20 |
| mriedem | paul-carlton1: i only asked in the bp whiteboard that it be discussed with danpb https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/live-migrate-rescued-instances | 14:20 |
| jaypipes | sdague: look ok? "^([a-zA-Z0-9-_:\.])+$": { | 14:20 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: we don't want more mixed case | 14:21 |
| mriedem | for metadata stuff | 14:21 |
| tojuvone_ | Ok all, take next plane out to Finland and join me to summer cabin for a sauna :) | 14:21 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: this is for the resource class names. | 14:21 |
| sdague | "^[a-zA-Z0-9-_:\.]+$": { | 14:21 |
| sdague | right? | 14:21 |
| jaypipes | tojuvone_: lol :) | 14:21 |
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| sdague | I don't think you want parens | 14:21 |
| jaypipes | sdague: yeah, doh, thx. | 14:21 |
| tojuvone_ | After summit meeting :) | 14:22 |
| mriedem | ok, i guess i need to go back to the generic-resource-pools spec then | 14:22 |
| sdague | you also probably have to escape the literal - | 14:22 |
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| paul-carlton1 | mriedem, so if an api version bump is required, a spec id definately need, correct? | 14:22 |
| mriedem | paul-carlton1: yes | 14:22 |
| sdague | though we don't in the current one, maybe python is smart enough | 14:22 |
| lbragstad | bauzas were the negative role tests the only things that failed in your patch? | 14:22 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: I've been referring to the resource class name always in ALL_CAPS (VCPU, RAM_MB, DISK_GB, etc). I could encode that in the expected JSONSchema if you'd like. | 14:23 |
| cdent | jaypipes: this is what I've got in the implementation right now: | 14:23 |
| bauzas | lbragstad: AFAICS, yes | 14:23 |
| cdent | "^[A-Z_]+$": | 14:23 |
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| cdent | as that reflects the class names that already exist uppercase letters plus _ | 14:24 |
| paul-carlton1 | mriedem, sdague do we need a new api version because live-migration will return 202 instead of 4xx when the instance is in rescued state? | 14:24 |
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| jaypipes | cdent: right, though with dynamic resource classes (coming soon to a theatre near you) the cloud admin will have the ability to create their own. | 14:24 |
| sdague | that's fine as well, I was just pretty sure that ^/[^/]+$ was not the right jsonschema | 14:24 |
| jaypipes | sdague: yes, of course. was a copy-paste thing. silly mistake. | 14:24 |
| cdent | jaypipes: sure, but even with dynami ones, may as well keep them to having good strong names | 14:24 |
| cdent | ? | 14:24 |
| mriedem | why not make the resource class names all uppercase and allow underscore? | 14:25 |
| cdent | GOOD STRONG ASCII NAMES | 14:25 |
| jaypipes | cdent: I'd be totally cool with that. | 14:25 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: I'd be fine with that. | 14:25 |
| cdent | solid | 14:25 |
| sdague | IF CAPITAL LETTERS ARE GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE THEY ARE GOOD ENOUGH FOR US | 14:25 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: that's what we have hard-coded today right? | 14:25 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: yup. | 14:25 |
| doffm | lol. LETS ALL JUST ADOPT THIS POLICY FOR THE CHANNEL TOO. | 14:25 |
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| cdent | I CAN'T HEAR ANYONE | 14:25 |
| mriedem | sdague: we need the annoying buzz sound too when someone uses the API | 14:25 |
| * jroll loves a good caps party | 14:26 | |
| sdague | plus it allows us to use telegraph machines for layer 2 for this api | 14:26 |
| mriedem | ALERT: SOMEONE IS CREATING A NEW TYPE OF SHARED RESOURCE POOL. MAKE YOUR SCHEDULER TAKE COVER IN A WELL SHELTERED AREA. | 14:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova-specs: resource-providers: generic resource pools https://review.openstack.org/300176 | 14:26 |
| jaypipes | done. | 14:27 |
| jaypipes | mriedem, sdague, cdent: at your leisure ^ | 14:27 |
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| mriedem | leading and trailing _ is ok? :P | 14:28 |
| sdague | mriedem: ++ | 14:28 |
| sdague | mriedem: no reason why it shouldn't be | 14:28 |
| mriedem | alright | 14:28 |
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| mriedem | OCD is why | 14:28 |
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| sdague | having a single case for letters will also preemptively avoid the hole we are digging out of in the metadata space | 14:29 |
| mriedem | yeah, that's what i really care about | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, that seems like a top idea | 14:29 |
| mriedem | if someone wants ________MY_POOL that's on them | 14:29 |
| sdague | yep | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | "_" means a private pool right? | 14:30 |
| sdague | that's a double secret private pool | 14:30 |
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| mriedem | where the deals are done | 14:30 |
| mriedem | and trump becomes the president | 14:30 |
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| cdent | jaypipes: did you see this conversation a few minutes back http://p.anticdent.org/xWd ? | 14:31 |
| jaypipes | mriedem, sdague, cdent: hold up... need to OSC-ify the use case references to novaclient commands. | 14:31 |
| sdague | "Yes," said Arthur, "yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying Beware of the Leopard." | 14:31 |
| sdague | 14:31 | |
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| mriedem | wtf | 14:31 |
| sdague | mriedem: have you never read Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy | 14:32 |
| mriedem | no | 14:32 |
| mriedem | that's high brow | 14:32 |
| cdent | jaypipes it started in the api meeting, on whether osc was the right place for the placement commands | 14:32 |
| cdent | mriedem-- | 14:32 |
| sdague | https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy - Chapter 1 | 14:32 |
| mriedem | not going to happen | 14:32 |
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| dims | mriedem : kzaitsev_mb pointed out the info in http://www.openstack.org/software/releases/liberty/components/nova is wrong "Does this project have stable branches?" | 14:32 |
| * mriedem is still reading the 800 biography on napolean | 14:32 | |
| sdague | mriedem: it's all of 4 hours of your life, and you'll laugh most of the way through | 14:32 |
| mriedem | *800 page | 14:32 |
| sdague | or you can listen to the radio drama (which came first) and I think still has that line in it | 14:33 |
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| mriedem | dims: huh, well, that looks like a bug in whatever the tooling that creates that page is | 14:33 |
| markus_z | he he he, that wikiquote page :D | 14:33 |
| mriedem | because http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/release_has-stable-branches.html | 14:33 |
| mriedem | lists nova | 14:33 |
| bauzas | mriedem: don't waste your time with some French dictator | 14:33 |
| dims | second that sdague it's hilarious! | 14:33 |
| mriedem | bauzas: like napolean in russia, i'm already committed | 14:34 |
| bauzas | mriedem: I'll spoil you | 14:34 |
| mriedem | it doesn't end well? i know. | 14:34 |
| bauzas | at the end, he loses | 14:34 |
| mriedem | :) | 14:34 |
| * andrearosa just scroll back to catch up with the discussion and get immediately lost | 14:35 | |
| dims | bauzas : spoil sport! :) | 14:35 |
| mriedem | paul-carlton1: so getting way back to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308198/ i don't see any comments from andrearosa about a microversion bump | 14:36 |
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| mriedem | paul-carlton1: this must have been all office chatter? | 14:36 |
| bauzas | dims: well, I didn't comment that there was a comeback | 14:36 |
| bauzas | oooh, I did now :p | 14:36 |
| dims | LOL | 14:36 |
| paul-carlton1 | mriedem, sorry spec is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307131/ | 14:37 |
| dims | bauzas : all i know is he spent time in Elba thanks to the palindrome | 14:37 |
| bauzas | dims: that's a good point, most of our French guys don't know that :) | 14:38 |
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| dims | haha | 14:38 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: able to clarify my mind ? | 14:42 |
| bauzas | dansmith: looking at https://github.com/openstack/oslo.versionedobjects/blob/master/oslo_versionedobjects/base.py#L377 | 14:42 |
| dansmith | bauzas: brb | 14:42 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: mikal: tonyb: fyi, for mitaka https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1572593+branch:stable/mitaka i have a -2 on the bottom change until the top one, which fixes a regression in the first patch, is approved | 14:42 |
| bauzas | dansmith: k, no worries | 14:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova-specs: resource-providers: generic resource pools https://review.openstack.org/300176 | 14:42 |
| jaypipes | mriedem, sdague, cdent: ok dokey, ready ^ | 14:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: virt/hardware: Add diagnostic logs for scheduling https://review.openstack.org/285322 | 14:46 |
| dansmith | bauzas: back | 14:46 |
| bauzas | dansmith: okay, a quick question | 14:46 |
| bauzas | dansmith: given a new field I'm adding into an o.voo object | 14:47 |
| bauzas | dansmith: and providing the obj_make_compat() backwards code | 14:47 |
| gibi | mriedem: hi! I think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286675/ | 14:47 |
| gibi | mriedem: I mean ^^ is quite ready | 14:47 |
| gibi | mriedem: just needs some core review | 14:47 |
| bauzas | dansmith: I want to make sure that persisting the object in a big blob like we do with the ReqSpec doesn't create some problems | 14:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova-specs: Live Migration of Rescued Instances https://review.openstack.org/307131 | 14:48 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: so, say I'm adding 'foo' to ReqSpec | 14:48 |
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| gibi | mriedem: could you check it please? | 14:48 |
| bauzas | dansmith: I want to make sure that obj_from_primitive() will work even with old ReqSpec versions | 14:48 |
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| mriedem | gibi: maybe after i review the other 10 things i have to review first :) | 14:49 |
| dansmith | bauzas: this is just like when we receive an older object over RPC, right? it may be missing things we expect | 14:49 |
| bauzas | dansmith: the point is, I'm getting the object in the API, so that's not an RPC call | 14:49 |
| dansmith | bauzas: right, but loading an older one from the database is the same process | 14:50 |
| bauzas | dansmith: but we store the whole serialized object in DB | 14:50 |
| gibi | mriedem: sorry for bugging you, I also tried to bug johnthetubaguy about it :) | 14:50 |
| bauzas | dansmith: okay, I then missed where the compat is made | 14:50 |
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| dansmith | bauzas: https://github.com/openstack/oslo.versionedobjects/blob/master/oslo_versionedobjects/base.py#L384 | 14:50 |
| mriedem | gibi: oh well in that case then i don't feel so bad | 14:50 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: right | 14:51 |
| mriedem | gibi: i'd like to see rlrossit be +1 on it | 14:51 |
| bauzas | dansmith: so, that means 'foo' will be not set, that's it | 14:51 |
| dansmith | bauzas: everything that sits above an object has to be able to tolerate an older (minor) version of the object | 14:51 |
| dansmith | bauzas: yes | 14:51 |
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| bauzas | k, wfm | 14:51 |
| dansmith | bauzas: for reqspec, you could implement obj_load_attr() so that you set some default or sane value if anything above it tries to reference | 14:51 |
| dansmith | the missing field | 14:52 |
| bauzas | dansmith: a lazy-load you mean? why not | 14:52 |
| gibi | mriedem: sure, will ping him | 14:52 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: to make sure I'm not using obj_attr_is_set() | 14:52 |
| dansmith | bauzas: well, it wouldn't really be a lazy load, but more like a lazy-take-the-default-if-missing :) | 14:52 |
| bauzas | right | 14:52 |
| dansmith | bauzas: either one works, and it depends on the case of course | 14:53 |
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| bauzas | yeah | 14:53 |
| gibi | rlrossit: hi! could you rereview the versioned notification transformation spec? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286675/ | 14:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Remove the legacy v2 API entry from api-paste.ini https://review.openstack.org/312314 | 14:53 |
| bauzas | dansmith: okay, thanks for clarifying | 14:53 |
| dansmith | yep | 14:53 |
| alex_xu | sdague: oomichi ^, I updated the patch, doing the similar thing with ec2 api | 14:54 |
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| sdague | alex_xu: cool, I'm going to walk away from the computer for a few, I'll look when I get back | 14:55 |
| sdague | alex_xu: if you still have it in you and want to look at jichen's api-ref patches, would like to merge a bunch of those | 14:55 |
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| alex_xu | sdague: ok, cool, let me try few before sleep | 14:57 |
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| mriedem | it's a good thing we do this in a loop.... http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.py#n5358 | 14:59 |
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| mgagne | is there any plan to fix support for multiple subnets in network_data.json? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/netutils.py#L204-L208 Same with multiple fixed_ips: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/netutils.py#L285 | 15:02 |
| mgagne | mriedem: looking for multiple ips per subnet and multiple subnets per network support ^ | 15:04 |
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| mriedem | sdague: +2 on the metadata keys spec | 15:04 |
| mriedem | mgagne: i'm not aware of any plans | 15:05 |
| mriedem | mgagne: that's not to say someone doesn't have a patch up for it somewhere | 15:05 |
| mgagne | mriedem: ok, how can we make that happen? The current network_data.json scheme looks to not accept multiple ips per network (I might be wrong) | 15:05 |
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| rlrossit | dansmith: alright, so I confused myself. How does coercion work on ObjectFields? | 15:06 |
| mriedem | mgagne: write the code to add that? | 15:06 |
| rlrossit | like how does it find the object that you give to the field? | 15:06 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: meaning how does it validate that you gave it a legit object? | 15:07 |
| mgagne | mriedem: does this mean I'm allowed to change the scheme? | 15:07 |
| rlrossit | yeah | 15:07 |
| mriedem | mgagne: it would be an api change | 15:07 |
| mriedem | so probably requires a spec | 15:07 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: you give it the name of the object when you define the field and then it checks obj_name on the object during assignment | 15:07 |
| mgagne | ok, will look into it | 15:07 |
| sneti | hi johnthetubaguy, can you please check this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290156/ | 15:07 |
| mriedem | mgagne: you might want to go back over the blueprints that originally added that note and see if there is a reference to this already | 15:07 |
| mgagne | mriedem: there is none | 15:08 |
| mriedem | i feel like there was a change that never landed that maybe did this | 15:08 |
| mgagne | mriedem: it assumed a single IP per network | 15:08 |
| rlrossit | dansmith: oh wow I was expecting way much more out of that | 15:08 |
| mgagne | http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/liberty/implemented/metadata-service-network-info.html#rest-api-impact | 15:08 |
| rlrossit | but yeah it does just check the name | 15:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | sneti: sorry, will do, its open in a tab | 15:08 |
| sneti | johnthetubaguy, thank you! | 15:09 |
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| mriedem | mgagne: i'm probably thinking of this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152703/ | 15:09 |
| mriedem | mgagne: but that's different | 15:09 |
| mriedem | there were a few things that were abandoned for that blueprint https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/metadata-service-network-info | 15:09 |
| mgagne | mriedem: yea, this was meant to add vlan info | 15:09 |
| rlrossit | dansmith: so if we have ListOfObjectsField('FixedIP') in our versioned notifications, and we make a FixedIP object for notifications, it'll work. I was thinking it would go searching through registered objects, which would conflict with our plan to implement it | 15:10 |
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| rlrossit | but it looks like this'll work out perfect | 15:10 |
| mgagne | mriedem: will look into them and see if there is anything worth salvaging (if any) | 15:10 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: you should not define an object with the same name that has a different schema | 15:10 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: so if the thing you're doing in your notification is not the same as our FixedIP object, then you should make something different | 15:10 |
| rlrossit | oh wait yeah we should be naming the separately anyways | 15:11 |
| rlrossit | that would blow up in tests anyways if we try to register it on top of the existing fixed ip object | 15:11 |
| dansmith | right exactly | 15:11 |
| * rlrossit is unsure if he wants to -1 gibi for this | 15:11 | |
| openstackgerrit | Hironori Shiina proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox from tests/unit/conductor/tasks/test_live_migrate.py(4) https://review.openstack.org/312589 | 15:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Create storage pools and volumes https://review.openstack.org/311092 | 15:14 |
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| rlrossit | sorry gibi :( | 15:16 |
| gibi | rlrossit: no worries. This seems like an issue we need to fix | 15:16 |
| gibi | rlrossit: does it help if the object is in different namespace but in the same registry? | 15:16 |
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| rlrossit | gibi: that would help things from a registering standpoint, but can still have negative side effects | 15:17 |
| rlrossit | like if we accidentally send in a true FixedIP object instead of a NotificationFixedIP object, o.vo will be fine with it | 15:18 |
| rlrossit | and dump bad things on the wire | 15:18 |
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| rlrossit | gibi: also I thought the separate namespace was a path we weren't taking anymore?\ | 15:18 |
| gibi | rlrossit: I see. Is it a limitation on ovo side that only checks the name and not namespace.name? | 15:18 |
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| gibi | rlrossit: we can put in separate namespace that does not cause structural change in the wire format | 15:19 |
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| gibi | rlrossit: just the different registry would change the key names | 15:19 |
| mriedem | check the notes from the friday meetup https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-meetup | 15:19 |
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| dansmith | gibi: yeah, the namespace separation is not really strong enough there | 15:19 |
| dansmith | gibi: it would be much easier to just call it FixedIPInfo or something like that | 15:20 |
| mriedem | L45: Is it OK to break everyone on a thing we just landed? The impact may be pretty small right now. But is the change justified? | 15:20 |
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| * rlrossit wants an InstanceInfoCacheInfo object :) | 15:20 | |
| dansmith | yeah, no brainer on that name! :) | 15:20 |
| mriedem | ^2 | 15:21 |
| gibi | OK, lets prefix the notification objects to avoid any name conflict | 15:21 |
| * gibi goes and updates the spec accordingly | 15:21 | |
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| rlrossit | yeah that'll be the biggest improvement for readability | 15:21 |
| rlrossit | gibi: as I said, don't get too hung up on what to call them, as long as it's something different | 15:22 |
| rlrossit | and don't let dansmith bikeshed you | 15:22 |
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| dansmith | red! | 15:22 |
| gibi | :) | 15:22 |
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| gibi | naming is a hard thing... | 15:23 |
| rlrossit | FixedIPThingyMaJig | 15:24 |
| dansmith | or just PIdexiF | 15:25 |
| gibi | TheAnotherFixedIp | 15:25 |
| dansmith | heh | 15:26 |
| tbachman | ThingOne ThingTwo | 15:27 |
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| rlrossit | dansmith: your name hurt my head | 15:27 |
| rlrossit | redrum | 15:28 |
| mriedem | we need that shining pic of jay | 15:28 |
| mriedem | right about now | 15:28 |
| rlrossit | what in the world are you talking about? | 15:29 |
| mriedem | alaski: hit us with the shining pic of jay | 15:29 |
| mriedem | iiiiiiit's jay! | 15:29 |
| alaski | one sec, gotta find a link | 15:29 |
| jaypipes | hmmm? what pic is that? | 15:29 |
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| mriedem | err, heeere's jay! | 15:29 |
| rlrossit | it's a different jay jaypipes | 15:30 |
| alaski | https://slack-files.com/T03ACD12T-F0ZF8UKU2-feb1aebaee | 15:30 |
| rlrossit | wow | 15:30 |
| jaypipes | http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/009/289/RHrLj-1.jpg | 15:30 |
| jaypipes | that one? ^ | 15:30 |
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| doffm | alaski: Do you know what our issue with keypair data being accessed from the compute was? I can't find anywhere that occurs. The keypair name is turned in to 'key_data' in the api. https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/api.py#L841 | 15:30 |
| rlrossit | that's a picture of you jaypipes? | 15:30 |
| mriedem | not at all | 15:30 |
| jaypipes | rlrossit: :) no... I just love that pic. | 15:30 |
| tbachman | I’m scared of that sweater | 15:30 |
| jaypipes | rlrossit: that is what I see when I read the PCI code. | 15:31 |
| alaski | doffm: turns out it wasn't the compute, it's the metadata service | 15:31 |
| doffm | alaski: Ok. | 15:31 |
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| mriedem | doffm: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/metadata/base.py#L330 | 15:32 |
| doffm | That should be somewhat easy to fix. If the key_name is already on the instance the key_data should be also. | 15:33 |
| doffm | The type won't be. That can be fixed I guess. | 15:33 |
| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/instance.py#L108-L109 | 15:34 |
| mriedem | name and data are on the instance | 15:34 |
| mriedem | adding type could be done the same way | 15:34 |
| mriedem | what sucks is we're just copying the keypair fields into the instance object | 15:34 |
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| mriedem | would be nicer if we just serialized the keypair object into the instance object | 15:35 |
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| mriedem | but that's a bigger change | 15:35 |
| doffm | Its not a huge deal I guess. There are only 3 fields. | 15:35 |
| doffm | Of importance. | 15:35 |
| mriedem | i defer to his dansmithness | 15:35 |
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| alaski | I would suggest instance_extra, but I also defer to his smithness | 15:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova-specs: Versioned notification transformation https://review.openstack.org/286675 | 15:39 |
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| gibi | rlrossit, dansmith: I changed the names ^^ I hope I made a decent choice | 15:39 |
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| doffm | Deferring to smithiness. If 'type' goes in instance extra should they ALL go in instance extra? | 15:40 |
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| dansmith | doffm: alaski: we can just serialize a list of keypair objects I assume right? | 15:41 |
| alaski | doffm: I think so. just serialize the object and drop it in there | 15:41 |
| dansmith | you can add a keypair to an instance after the fact, right? | 15:41 |
| dansmith | oh,maybe not | 15:41 |
| dansmith | in that case, definitely easy | 15:41 |
| doffm | If we can I don't know how that happens. | 15:41 |
| alaski | I think it must be included on boot | 15:41 |
| dansmith | yeah, rock on | 15:41 |
| dansmith | doffm: were you starting on the keypair stuff? because I was thinking I would try to get going on that | 15:42 |
| dansmith | but if you've already started I can find something else | 15:42 |
| doffm | Ok, it is decided. Will add to a keypairs spec which will be out promptly. | 15:42 |
| mriedem | dansmith: i have something fun for you :) | 15:42 |
| doffm | dansmith: If you want to do it go ahead. I still haven't finished aggregates, but was going to do this next. | 15:42 |
| mriedem | POC of searchlight in nova | 15:42 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yeah, I plan to play with that at some point, but it's slightly less pressing than some of these things | 15:43 |
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| dansmith | doffm: okay, have you already started on a spec/ | 15:43 |
| doffm | Quotas are also to do, so.... plenty to go around. | 15:43 |
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| dansmith | doffm: you're more than welcome to have quotas :P | 15:43 |
| doffm | dansmith: Yep, but its pretty short. | 15:43 |
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| dansmith | doffm: okay maybe just put me as the assignee? | 15:44 |
| mriedem | sure, btw, related to that, the cells v2 session etherpad suggested we could get the results from the cells (for listing instances) and then merge sort them in the API - apparently that was shot down, but we don't have notes in there of why | 15:44 |
| doffm | dansmith: Sure. | 15:44 |
| dansmith | mriedem: because so slow | 15:44 |
| mriedem | ok i figured that was the reason | 15:44 |
| mriedem | however, | 15:44 |
| mriedem | would that be our fallback if you're not using searchlight? | 15:45 |
| alaski | it wouldn't be horrible for page 1, but it started getting complex for page 2 of results | 15:45 |
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| dansmith | I think our fallback without searchlight is you get unsorted results regardless of whether you asked for it or not | 15:45 |
| dansmith | or we refuse to send you more than page 1 | 15:46 |
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| alaski | I lean towards the latter | 15:46 |
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| mriedem | we'd be able to determine how many cells we have in the api right via the cellmappings table? | 15:48 |
| mriedem | so this shouldn't affect a cell of one | 15:49 |
| dansmith | yeah | 15:49 |
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| gibi | mriedem: rlrossit gave +1 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286675/ after the renaming. could you put this spec on your review list? | 15:51 |
| mriedem | gibi: honestly i'm probably not going to get to that today | 15:51 |
| mriedem | i'm not saying it's not important, i just can't shove more things on my plate right now | 15:52 |
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| gibi | mriedem: no worries, I will bug the spec cores tomorrow with it | 15:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox from test_extensions.py https://review.openstack.org/304892 | 16:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sujitha proposed openstack/nova: Config options: Centralize servicegroup options https://review.openstack.org/303074 | 16:01 |
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| pumaranikar | hello dims , I am checking a bug where it says pycrypto library is missing in requirements. https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1578047 | 16:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1578047 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "missing python library pycrypto in requireements.txt" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Seungkyu Ahn (seungkyua) | 16:03 |
| pumaranikar | dims, can you please let me know if it is related to this change https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/commit/?id=1fd0f4f | 16:03 |
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| markus_z | dims: ^ looks a little like a mitaka regression | 16:06 |
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| sdague | melwitt: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/311529 as you also had strong feelings on the metadata case sensitivity issue - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/311529 | 16:10 |
| sdague | doh, double paste | 16:10 |
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| mriedem | sdague: alaski: dansmith: on the api policy discoverability, we said that we wouldn't expose that over the REST API in newton, but would provide something in nova-manage, | 16:10 |
| mriedem | but i've lost what we'd actually expose there | 16:10 |
| sdague | mriedem: correct | 16:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova-specs: Migrate keypair table to the API DB https://review.openstack.org/312619 | 16:11 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: a nova-manage command that will return calculated policy based on a provided tenant id | 16:11 |
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| auggy | sdague: thanks! i also was wondering if you got a chance to talk to anyone from Keystone on friday about the nova service auth thing, or do i need to send an email to the mailing list? | 16:11 |
| mriedem | dansmith: ok, that clears it up | 16:11 |
| cfriesen | jaypipes: I'd like to clarify something...with generic resource pools would we plan to move *all* the sched filters into DB queries? Or would we leave the "complicated" ones (NumaTopologyFilter) as python code? | 16:11 |
| sdague | mriedem: an evaluation tool, so something of the format: nova-manage policy-check [tenant_id] [permission] | 16:11 |
| sdague | because I think it needs to do a few things | 16:12 |
| dane-fichter | anyone got any pointers for how to initialize a GlanceImageService object? Having trouble finding a standard way to do it | 16:12 |
| sdague | - show me the global policy, what I overrode in policy.json, WARNING for overrides == defaults, and overrides that don't exist in real policy | 16:13 |
| * kashyap learnt this word today: "tarnation" ("used as a euphemism for ‘damnation’") -- thanks mriedem. Google tells me the usage is on the rise since mid 1950s. | 16:13 | |
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| sdague | - show me policy as exposed to a particular tenant_id | 16:13 |
| mriedem | kashyap: yes i need to use it more | 16:13 |
| sdague | - show me if this tenant_id could do this action | 16:13 |
| rlrossit | kashyap: I've got a bunch more if you ever want to learn some. | 16:13 |
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| sdague | realizing that in some cases the answer will be "it depends" | 16:14 |
| mriedem | sdague: yeah i have the first one there in the api policy defaults in code thing | 16:14 |
| mriedem | we were pretty clear on that | 16:14 |
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| kashyap | rlrossit: Bring it on, lately I've had to looking up a bunch of North-American only slang words. :-) | 16:14 |
| cfriesen | kashyap: now add "goldarnit" | 16:15 |
| auggy | kashyap: I think Yosemite Sam made it popular but I could be wrong | 16:15 |
| sdague | auggy: it didn't come up again on friday, I think that if you want to just circle with dolph and/or jamielennox to flesh out code examples of how to do it, it then just goes into the spec | 16:15 |
| * auggy is a fan of "dagnabbit" | 16:15 | |
| dane-fichter | daggum is also useful one | 16:16 |
| * kashyap 's favourite is the German: Backpfeifengesicht ("a face that invites a slap") | 16:16 | |
| cfriesen | also spelled dadgum | 16:16 |
| auggy | sdague: ok cool, I will put together an email, that seems like a good place to sort it out | 16:16 |
| sdague | auggy: yep, sure | 16:16 |
| kashyap | Don't ask me how to spell it. | 16:16 |
| * kashyap stops derailing the channel topic | 16:16 | |
| auggy | kashyap: a worthy derailment | 16:17 |
| kashyap | auggy: Okay, one last... | 16:17 |
| kashyap | Very relevant to us here | 16:17 |
| kashyap | "Verschlimmbesserung" == "an intended improvement that makes things worse" | 16:18 |
| kashyap | ^ `nova evacuate` dansmith ? | 16:18 |
| auggy | kashyap: my husband is German and I've been studying German, so this is great | 16:18 |
| * kashyap ducks | 16:18 | |
| dansmith | kashyap: heh | 16:18 |
| cfriesen | ooh, I like that one. | 16:19 |
| kashyap | auggy: Learning Dutch here. (Making incremental progress, enough so that people in grocery stores get confused that I'm native) | 16:19 |
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| mriedem | sdague: L65 here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-api | 16:22 |
| mriedem | "Decision: get rid of tenant_id and version, instead use {endpoint} which any user can get from their catalog." | 16:22 |
| mriedem | however, isn't tenant_id only optional after the 2.18 microversion? | 16:22 |
| mriedem | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/api_microversion_history.html#id16 | 16:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mathieu Gagné proposed openstack/nova-specs: Multiple Fixed-IPs support in network information https://review.openstack.org/312626 | 16:25 |
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| ccarmack | alaski: could you remind me? Does cellsv1 work with neutron? | 16:30 |
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| mriedem | ccarmack: yes | 16:30 |
| alaski | ccarmack: in theory, yes. I don't know anyone running it without downstream code | 16:30 |
| ccarmack | and not work with nova-net? | 16:30 |
| mriedem | nectar uses ovs | 16:30 |
| mriedem | ccarmack: it works with nova-net | 16:30 |
| mriedem | that's what CERN uses | 16:30 |
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| mriedem | i don't know how much godaddy has had to patch to make neutron/ovs work with cellsv1 | 16:31 |
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| mriedem | they are in the #openstack-operators channel if you want to ask | 16:31 |
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| ccarmack | mriedem: its just that I'm having trouble get test_server_basic_ops to work with cellsv1, either with n-net or neutron | 16:31 |
| alaski | I think they're sharing patches with nectar | 16:31 |
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| ccarmack | and with validation = true | 16:32 |
| alaski | ccarmack: certain features don't work, security groups, floating-ips | 16:32 |
| mriedem | ccarmack: why are you trying to get neutron + cells v1 + tempest working? | 16:32 |
| mriedem | i had a poc for a job for that awhile back and we nixed it | 16:32 |
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| ccarmack | mriedem: for that patch to configure out sec groups, and I wanted to get validation to work also | 16:33 |
| mriedem | ccarmack: validation = True depends on what it's using for ssh, which could be fixed or floating in tempest if i remember correctly | 16:34 |
| mriedem | floating IPs aren't going to work | 16:34 |
| mriedem | so you'd have to check the tempest config to see what it's using | 16:34 |
| siva_krishnan | alaski mriedem this is regardign https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1514550. I would like to know if we can set it to won't fix as it was decided not to work on cells bugs as cells v1 is going to be deprecated. Please let me know your thoughts on this | 16:34 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1514550 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova.cells.messaging.instance_update_at_top is assuming it gets an Instance object" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Kasey Alusi (kasey-alusi) | 16:34 |
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| mriedem | siva_krishnan: honestly i don't really care about fixing that anymore | 16:35 |
| ccarmack | mriedem: I tried it with fixed and floating on n-net, but I'll focus on fixed | 16:35 |
| mriedem | siva_krishnan: just mark it as won't fix i guess | 16:35 |
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| alaski | siva_krishnan: yeah, that's not worth fixing. in practice it shouldn't affect anyone as the expectation is that all cells services are upgraded together | 16:36 |
| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: hehe, thanks. it is easy to go home from the summit because of living USA now | 16:36 |
| dims | markus_z : pumaranikar : don't think we every directly have reference to pycrypto in our requirements.txt | 16:36 |
| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: ah, OK. I will review it again:-) | 16:36 |
| dims | markus_z : do you see this anywhere in our CI too? | 16:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Mathieu Gagné proposed openstack/nova-specs: Multiple Fixed-IPs support in network information https://review.openstack.org/312626 | 16:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: ah, I forgot that bit! | 16:37 |
| ccarmack | mriedem, alaski: with fixed and n-net, when I do "nova net-list" it doesn't return any networks, even though I see devstack calling nova-manage to create a network | 16:37 |
| oomichi | sdague: can you give more comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312320/ ? I cannot get the point. | 16:37 |
| markus_z | dims: we had pycrypto until https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/commit/?id=56d3d29 | 16:37 |
| dims | markus_z : 2012 :) | 16:38 |
| markus_z | dims: could a test case be missing? | 16:38 |
| melwitt | ccarmack: I think devstack creates a network in the cell via nova-manage network create <cell nova.conf> so you won't see it with 'nova net-list' | 16:39 |
| siva_krishnan | willl mark it as 'wont fix it' | 16:39 |
| markus_z | dims: 2012? Did I provide a wrong link? | 16:39 |
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| ccarmack | melwitt: yes I saw that nova-manage called, but why wouldn't then net appear in the list? | 16:39 |
| dims | markus_z : https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/commit/?id=56d3d29 is from 2012 | 16:40 |
| dane-fichter | markus_z isn't pycrypto still used in places? | 16:40 |
| melwitt | ccarmack: the net list will list only networks in the parent and there aren't any in the parent, it's in the cell | 16:40 |
| markus_z | dims: omg, I thought it's 2016 ... | 16:40 |
| dane-fichter | pyca/cryptography is generally a much better option | 16:41 |
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| melwitt | ccarmack: if you go into mysql you'll see the 'nova' and 'nova_cell' databases and see the networks table in each. the 'nova' one will be empty, the 'nova_cell' one will have the network | 16:41 |
| pumaranikar | dims, markus_z so, i guess we dont have direct reference to pycrypto. | 16:41 |
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| ccarmack | melwitt: would that also explain why I get "floating pool not found" also, because thats what tempest is getting? | 16:42 |
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| ccarmack | and I see a nova manage creating the pool… | 16:42 |
| dane-fichter | dims, markus_z what do you guys need pycrypto for? | 16:42 |
| melwitt | ccarmack: well, there is probably a pool at the top (parent) but not a pool in the cell. opposite issue | 16:42 |
| markus_z | dane-fichter: It's about this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1578047 | 16:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1578047 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "missing python library pycrypto in requireements.txt" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Seungkyu Ahn (seungkyua) | 16:42 |
| melwitt | ccarmack: oh, nova-manage created the pool? probably in the cell then. I didn't remember who, tempest or devstack, creates the pool | 16:43 |
| melwitt | ccarmack: anyway, it's not synced between parent and cell and that's why those things won't work | 16:43 |
| ccarmack | melwitt: devstack creates it, and I configured tempest to use that pool | 16:43 |
| dane-fichter | huh that's strange | 16:43 |
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| ccarmack | melwitt: ok, maybe I should use fixed…. I think I had validation working somehow a few months ago | 16:44 |
| melwitt | ccarmack: I had made fixed work with validation eons ago and I think you did too. let me see if I took any notes somewhere | 16:45 |
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| dims | markus_z : back in a bit | 16:47 |
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| markus_z | dims: I have to leave in a few minutes and tomorrow is a public holiday in my country. I'm back on Friday. Would you maybe check with pumaranikar what's happening there? | 16:48 |
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| melwitt | ccarmack: not finding anything but I think I had set [validation] run_validation = True and connect_method = fixed in tempest.conf | 16:48 |
| melwitt | and use the default security group in test_server_basic_ops | 16:49 |
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| ccarmack | melwitt: yep, I'm trying that now… will keep digging | 16:49 |
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| pumaranikar | markus_z, yes. I will connect with dims. | 16:50 |
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| dims | markus_z : ack. have a good holiday | 16:50 |
| markus_z | thanks! see you on Friday | 16:50 |
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| pumaranikar | dims, let me know when you get some time. | 16:52 |
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| sdague | oomichi: before, it was clear why this was a failure, you were passing garbage in one of the parameter | 16:54 |
| sdague | now the failure in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312320/ is a lot less clear why it's no good | 16:54 |
| dims | pumaranikar : can you grab outputs from "pip freeze" and "dpkg -l" and add it to the bug report please? | 16:55 |
| dims | pumaranikar : i'll try to look at it after lunch | 16:55 |
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| oomichi | sdague: as the commit message, the test MUST be for v2.1 API as the test class name. but current one tests v2.0 module wrongly | 16:57 |
| oomichi | sdague: then the patch fixes it to switch to test v2.1 module before removing v2.0 API modules | 16:58 |
| oomichi | sdague: I put a new comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312320/1/nova/tests/unit/api/openstack/compute/test_volumes.py | 16:59 |
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| oomichi | sdague: at line 229 | 16:59 |
| pumaranikar | dims, ok. Will that be helpful ? I am not facing this issue on my environment. | 16:59 |
| mriedem | whew, api summit session recap email sent, time for lunch | 17:00 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: you have been a champion with all the recap emails. really great | 17:03 |
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| mriedem | thanks. it's scary that i'm already forgetting stuff from last week. | 17:05 |
| melwitt | I am too, if that's any consolation | 17:06 |
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| sdague | mriedem: thanks for the API recap, looks great | 17:07 |
| sdague | melwitt: thankfully people were taking pretty reasonable notes in the etherpads | 17:07 |
| melwitt | sdague: yeah, I noticed that too. well worth it to take the notes | 17:09 |
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| cdent | mriedem: you're forgetting things because of that long march to russia | 17:10 |
| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: reviewed again on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290156 . I will +2 if respining for a few lines. | 17:11 |
| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: btw, are there any concerns about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/311659/ more? | 17:11 |
| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: that got 2 * +2s now :) | 17:12 |
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| mriedem | edleafe: please stop blogging about cells v2 | 17:20 |
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| * tbachman wonders if JLo is making another movie with Vince Vaughn | 17:28 | |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Fix unit tests for v2.1 API https://review.openstack.org/312320 | 17:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove legacy v2 unit tests[q-v] https://review.openstack.org/311656 | 17:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove legacy v2 unit tests[f-n] https://review.openstack.org/311658 | 17:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove legacy v2 unit tests[a-e] https://review.openstack.org/311659 | 17:31 |
| cfriesen | anyone know how to represent a long URL in a spec without violating the 78-column limit? | 17:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Remove legacy v2 API code completely https://review.openstack.org/311653 | 17:31 |
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| oomichi | sdague: thanks for the comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312320/ . I have addressed on that ^^^ | 17:36 |
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| sdague | cfriesen: you can split python strings inside parens | 17:38 |
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| sdague | foo = ("http://.........................." | 17:38 |
| sdague | ".....................................") | 17:38 |
| sdague | or # noqa on the line in question | 17:38 |
| sdague | oomichi: thanks, +2 | 17:39 |
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| cfriesen | sdague: not python, rst in a spec | 17:51 |
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| cfriesen | sdague: I currently have this line, need to limit it to 79 columns: .. [1] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/resource-providers-scheduler-db-filters | 17:53 |
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| sdague | cfriesen: you actually don't | 17:55 |
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| cfriesen | there's an exception for urls? | 17:55 |
| sdague | it's a soft limit, it's not code enforced. | 17:56 |
| sdague | mostly we didn't want people relying on word wrap because gerrit makes it impossible to review | 17:56 |
| cfriesen | cool...and actually tox passes even with the long url | 17:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Friesen proposed openstack/nova-specs: Improve Scheduler Logging https://review.openstack.org/306647 | 17:57 |
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| dansmith | alaski: doffm: funny story | 18:03 |
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| dansmith | alaski: doffm I started working on a model and db migration to add keypairs to instance_extra | 18:04 |
| dansmith | then went to add it into instance | 18:04 |
| dansmith | turns out, we store just the name and key data right on the instance itself | 18:04 |
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| dansmith | so I think we're good? | 18:04 |
| alaski | we also need the type | 18:04 |
| dansmith | hmm, how do we get it now? | 18:04 |
| alaski | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/api/metadata/base.py#n321 | 18:05 |
| alaski | repull the keypair from the db | 18:05 |
| alaski | or via RPC for cellsv1 | 18:05 |
| dansmith | yeah, I see | 18:05 |
| dansmith | dang | 18:05 |
| dansmith | alaski: so, if we add it into extra, we'll gain the type but duplicate the other two fields | 18:06 |
| dansmith | oh | 18:06 |
| dansmith | actually I guess that's not the same | 18:06 |
| alaski | yeah. ideally we'd deprecate those and move it all into extra, but I defer to you on if that's better than just adding type to instance | 18:07 |
| dansmith | so, I think key_data is the public key | 18:07 |
| dansmith | er, no | 18:07 |
| dansmith | hmm, this is very confusing | 18:07 |
| alaski | that should be the opening line for the devref | 18:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova-specs: Move aggregates tables to the API database https://review.openstack.org/288084 | 18:08 |
| doffm | alaski, dansmith: I defer. In the spec I have it *all* going to extra, but nothing about deprecating the old fields. | 18:10 |
| dansmith | yeah | 18:10 |
| doffm | They would be unused once the spec was complete. | 18:11 |
| dansmith | so the tough bit is, | 18:11 |
| dansmith | in order to continue to be compatible, we need to allow loading those from either database on the metadata server, | 18:11 |
| dansmith | which will require upcalling to the api database if they have been migrated | 18:11 |
| doffm | Ahhh yes. Old computes. | 18:11 |
| dansmith | old instances, not computes | 18:12 |
| doffm | So, we can either have upcalling for a limited amount of time, or bad metadata returns for a limited amount of time. | 18:12 |
| dansmith | I suppose we could make sure we always migrate instances before we move the keypairs | 18:12 |
| doffm | Oh, not limited. The instances can live forever. | 18:12 |
| doffm | Hmmm. | 18:12 |
| dansmith | and have metadata only load by name from the cell db if it has to | 18:12 |
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| mriedem | are we ever going to officially deprecate file injection? | 18:53 |
| dansmith | I think we should | 18:54 |
| mriedem | and fping | 18:54 |
| mriedem | wtf | 18:54 |
| mriedem | i never remember what that is | 18:54 |
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| mriedem | oh i see | 18:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove legacy v2 unit tests[f-n] https://review.openstack.org/311658 | 18:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Remove legacy v2 API code completely https://review.openstack.org/311653 | 18:56 |
| sdague | personalities and fping are probably on the APIs we should get rid of front | 18:56 |
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| mriedem | i was going to say, dansmith should get on the sdague api deprecation train :) | 18:56 |
| sdague | fping probably should go into the nova-network bucket, actually | 18:56 |
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| mriedem | speaking of nova-net buckets | 18:57 |
| mriedem | os-networks-associate | 18:57 |
| mriedem | totes nova-net | 18:57 |
| mriedem | you get a 501 from that if you're using neutron | 18:57 |
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| sdague | oh, did I miss that? I was going through the API ref site and might have | 18:57 |
| sdague | it is kind of interesting, the nova API is almost going to fit inside your head once we dump all this stuff | 18:58 |
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| mriedem | sdague: well, i was going to say something about os-networks-associate in your deprecation spec, but it's not a proxy | 18:59 |
| mriedem | but i guess if nova-net is deprecated then it's by proxy deprecated | 18:59 |
| sdague | mriedem: yeh, one the network side we get a little fuzzy there, but it is | 19:00 |
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| mriedem | while we're on this train | 19:00 |
| mriedem | os-disk-config | 19:00 |
| mriedem | needs to die | 19:00 |
| mriedem | like, we'll be gentle about it, like when that nazi kills the guy with a slow knife at the end of saving private ryan | 19:01 |
| mriedem | ssshhhh, it's ok, it's ok | 19:01 |
| mriedem | fping should work with neutron | 19:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova-specs: WIP Resource providers: dynamic resource classes https://review.openstack.org/312696 | 19:03 |
| sdague | mriedem: not without a bunch of work right, by default the compute hosts can't talk to project networks | 19:03 |
| sdague | because of ovs isolation | 19:03 |
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| mriedem | yeah maybe, idk really | 19:05 |
| mriedem | was going to try with novaclient but we don't have a shell | 19:05 |
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| mriedem | sdague: ok, comments inline https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312209/ | 19:10 |
| sdague | cool, doing expenses now, I'll look in the morning | 19:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maxim Nestratov proposed openstack/nova-specs: libvirt: support for virtozzo storage volume driver https://review.openstack.org/312704 | 19:15 |
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| mriedem | jaypipes: sdague: cdent: for the placement API/client, it's not just CLI right? it's also the python API that goes in some kind of library which isn't going to be python-novaclient. | 19:26 |
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| mriedem | seems easiest to just throw the CLI and python API in the same library | 19:26 |
| cdent | mriedem: yes, that's correct, but we're already taking that pretty much as a given, aren't we | 19:27 |
| mriedem | then i think the question is just if the CLI is an OSC plugin in that library or not | 19:27 |
| cdent | yes | 19:27 |
| sdague | mriedem: yes | 19:27 |
| mriedem | openstack placement resource-pool create | 19:27 |
| mriedem | something like that | 19:27 |
| mriedem | oh i guess it would be | 19:27 |
| jroll | I thought osc didn't do admin things :) | 19:27 |
| sdague | jroll: see mailing list | 19:28 |
| mriedem | openstack resource-pool create | 19:28 |
| jroll | aha | 19:28 |
| cdent | yes, what jroll just said, and thus the thread | 19:28 |
| * jroll will catch up | 19:28 | |
| cdent | but the thread seems to have gotten off track | 19:28 |
| mriedem | 'placement' wouldn't be in the CLI because that's a namesapce | 19:28 |
| mriedem | we could always move to an OSC plugin later for the CLI | 19:28 |
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| mriedem | maybe we just start with owning it all in the single lib | 19:28 |
| mriedem | unless the OSC plugin saves us a lot of headache | 19:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maxim Nestratov proposed openstack/nova-specs: libvirt: support for virtozzo storage volume driver https://review.openstack.org/312704 | 19:30 |
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| sdague | all that being said, actually breaking ground on a dedicated library here I don't think was originally in the mix. So time to bike shed on names which have no association with time, and only with placement | 19:32 |
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| mriedem | i'm not sure what you just said | 19:40 |
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| alaski | I think he's referring to it being called the scheduler, even though it's not really "scheduling". It's more of a placement engine | 19:45 |
| sdague | right | 19:45 |
| sdague | which is why we called the API placement | 19:45 |
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| sdague | and we should not call the new thing gannt | 19:45 |
| mriedem | gantt | 19:46 |
| mriedem | gawd | 19:46 |
| dansmith | there are multiple reasons not to call anything else gantt :) | 19:46 |
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| bauzas | did there was a consensus on saying the client for the placement API to be off the novaclient ? I'm a bit sad then | 19:48 |
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| bauzas | I'm sure the long-term plan is to cut the scheduler off nova, but having this being now is a bit too young IMHO | 19:49 |
| bauzas | because the endpoint is part of nova still | 19:49 |
| sdague | bauzas: we didn't put boto in novaclient when it did ec2 | 19:49 |
| sdague | bauzas: if you start it in novaclient, then when you split it out you need to take all the shared history, and it gets shaped by the existing novaclient code | 19:50 |
| bauzas | well, I was thinking that since the scheduler only provides destinations being compute nodes, it's still a nova related one | 19:50 |
| bauzas | Gantt was historically there for not only placing computes, but also volumes for example | 19:51 |
| bauzas | that said | 19:51 |
| bauzas | if we say the split-off scheduler being another project, it would still be in the 'compute' program | 19:52 |
| bauzas | so I'm torn | 19:52 |
| bauzas | tbc, I'm not against forklifting the scheduler | 19:53 |
| bauzas | it's a program vs. project question I have in mind | 19:53 |
| sdague | programs aren't really a thing any more, but yeh, it would start with nova-core approval team | 19:54 |
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| bauzas | sdague: but I understand your point, and I think having that in novaclient would make splitting the scheduler harder | 19:54 |
| sdague | right, we should plan for success here, and do things that make future split easiest | 19:55 |
| bauzas | sdague: in my mind, until the scheduler gives more than just computes, it's still a compute related project, hence nova-core and nova team | 19:55 |
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| bauzas | I guess my worries come by the fact it's the first time we would really make a clear line between nova and the scheduler | 19:56 |
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| bauzas | just wanting to make sure we clarify what's we're going to have | 19:56 |
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| doffm | We should make it super clear that the scheduler isn't general purpose right? Its separate but only for use by nova? | 19:57 |
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| bauzas | doffm: I'm saying that because I had some concerns from other teams when I was working on gantt whether it was intended to be in use for other projects | 19:58 |
| sdague | gantt did everything in the wrong order | 19:58 |
| bauzas | in order to clarify that, I wrote a ML thread officially claiming that gantt was defunct | 19:59 |
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| dansmith | I can see turning the resource pools stuff into a very much more generic thing | 19:59 |
| bauzas | because in my mind, unless other projects are wanting to use a scheduler API for returning others than just computes, it's a nova thing | 19:59 |
| bauzas | dansmith: having cross-project affinity and placement is certainly a thing, yes | 20:00 |
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| dansmith | I don't really mean that | 20:00 |
| dansmith | I mean, you could have a resource pool of compute, that would exclude non-compute nodes, | 20:00 |
| dansmith | and a resource pool of volume, which helps you pick a cinder node, independent of a compute node | 20:01 |
| bauzas | yeah was thinking of that | 20:01 |
| dansmith | and then different kinds of filters downstream from the big generic resource pool filter | 20:01 |
| bauzas | okay, that makes me agreeing sdague's point then | 20:03 |
| bauzas | it can't be in novaclient | 20:03 |
| bauzas | but call it anything but gantt | 20:03 |
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| dansmith | right | 20:04 |
| bauzas | I could propose avon | 20:05 |
| bauzas | :p | 20:05 |
| bauzas | okay, all of that clarifies things in my mind | 20:05 |
| doffm | Maybe one day it could be more generic. I guess I just don't want everyone to jump on it with extra requirements while its still being worked on for nova use case. | 20:05 |
| bauzas | if we say there is a separate endpoint and a separate client, but at the beginning we still share the nova repo and are part of the compute program, that looks fine by me | 20:06 |
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| bauzas | doffm: you just hit my biggest concern | 20:06 |
| bauzas | doffm: hence me really really super causcious about splitting the scheduler out of nova | 20:07 |
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| bauzas | nova still has to be our 1st consumer | 20:07 |
| melwitt | I'd rather it be generic enough now, being that we're on the brink of having our other backends duplicate ideas like aggregates and filtering on their side | 20:07 |
| melwitt | and the work that's being done now is either super close to being generic enough or might already be. it really needs to be sketched out by operators that are using for example, nova and ironic | 20:08 |
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| bauzas | melwitt: that's a fair thing to say, I agree | 20:12 |
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| doffm | I spoke to alaski about it at the summit, but I would like us to keep some modularity / pluggability in the scheduler. Different placement algorithms etc.. If its a generic thing then i think that will be neccessary. | 20:20 |
| doffm | With all the other changes going on though. :) Probably not something to do now. | 20:20 |
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| bauzas | ok, baby steps | 20:21 |
| doffm | Yeah. | 20:22 |
| bauzas | first, let's provide the endpoint and the client for being used for placing compute nodes using more than just compute related resources | 20:22 |
| doffm | Actually its kinda huge steps at the moment, one HUGE step at a time. | 20:22 |
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| alaski | yeah. my concern continues to be about defining the APIs well. Not just the call for getting a placement, but the APIs feeding data into the scheduler, and the internal APIs. I would like to see alternative schedulers for various use cases | 20:24 |
| bauzas | that's why I was first confused when I saw the client discussion (and me saying I was "sad") | 20:24 |
| alaski | however for now I just hope for clean APIs | 20:24 |
| bauzas | but if we clarify the above (ie. a placement endpoint for the solely purpose of placing compute nodes), I'm fine | 20:24 |
| doffm | alaski: Yep, we don't yet know what apis should look like for 20 unknown use cases. | 20:25 |
| bauzas | we could see later how to have a v2 API placing more than just compute nodes | 20:25 |
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| bauzas | but the v1 API contract for the placement endpoint is clear to me | 20:25 |
| bauzas | while the others aren't | 20:25 |
| bauzas | for example, we still don't know whether we move claims into the scheduler | 20:26 |
| bauzas | and other projects don't have a ResourceTracker | 20:26 |
| doffm | +1 for doing so, but yea. :) | 20:26 |
| alaski | doffm: yeah | 20:26 |
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| bauzas | meaning that if Cinder wants to place volumes, I'm fine but we would need to consider asking them to have a specific "resource pool" tracker | 20:27 |
| bauzas | which is not a v1 thing tbh | 20:27 |
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| bauzas | hope I'm clarifying my original ping which could have confused people | 20:28 |
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| doffm | alaski: Just trying to work out how to rebase my other cell0 patches to your 'one command to rule them all series'. This is looking like a cherry-pick of doom. | 20:31 |
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| doffm | If in doubt. Cherry pick. | 20:31 |
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| alaski | hopefully we can get those merged soon | 20:36 |
| doffm | Yep, i'm going to get them in shape now. | 20:36 |
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| * auggy just caught up on the backscroll... more like backLOL hehe | 20:41 | |
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| melwitt | alaski: one thing I was thinking about on the API for feeding data into the scheduler, is the ability to do it without specifying a resource pool. otherwise the data feeder has to have knowledge of the aggregate layout (if resource pools are mapped to aggregates) | 20:45 |
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| alaski | I don't have it all in my head anymore, but I think that's what resource providers are for | 20:46 |
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| alaski | if the provider is specified then all the mapping can take place within the scheduler | 20:47 |
| alaski | I think | 20:47 |
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| alaski | as long as the scheduler knows which providers belong to which pool | 20:49 |
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| melwitt | I will be digging into the specs again now that I understand more of this now. I'm thinking of ironic feeding inventory, if it could come in unassociated with an aggregate and be associated with one via nova API call by an operator | 20:53 |
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| dansmith | gahh, another cells meeting already? | 20:55 |
| melwitt | yup | 20:55 |
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| dansmith | seems like those happen every week | 20:55 |
| bauzas | :) | 20:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julian proposed openstack/nova-specs: instance.create notifications should emit with scheduler hints https://review.openstack.org/312169 | 20:56 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: melwitt: I'm actually in 3 mins + a cells meeting to be in a long week-end :) | 20:57 |
| melwitt | bauzas: nice! | 20:58 |
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| bauzas | my disagreement level should be pretty low then :) | 20:58 |
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| dansmith | I'm going to sleep after this meeting to try to get well-er | 20:59 |
| dansmith | so I hope it's quick | 20:59 |
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| bauzas | +1 | 21:00 |
| melwitt | no pressure alaski | 21:00 |
| alaski | heh | 21:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove legacy v2 unit tests[f-n] https://review.openstack.org/311658 | 21:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Remove legacy v2 API code completely https://review.openstack.org/311653 | 21:03 |
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| jroll | sdague: hey, where is api-ref stuff being published currently? | 21:07 |
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| jroll | aha, http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/ | 21:08 |
| jroll | ignore me :) | 21:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add keypairs to instance_extra https://review.openstack.org/312749 | 21:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add keypairs to Instance object https://review.openstack.org/312750 | 21:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Create Instances with keypairs https://review.openstack.org/312751 | 21:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add Keypairs to the API database https://review.openstack.org/312755 | 21:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make Keypair object favor the API database https://review.openstack.org/312756 | 21:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add requested_destination field to RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/312757 | 21:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Add test fixture for cell0. https://review.openstack.org/301864 | 21:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Map instances to cell0 on failed schedule https://review.openstack.org/267827 | 21:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Manage db sync command for cell0 https://review.openstack.org/274885 | 21:33 |
| doffm | dansmith: That is super fast work. | 21:33 |
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| dansmith | doffm: not done yet, but getting there | 21:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova-specs: Message queue connection switching for cells https://review.openstack.org/298551 | 21:35 |
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| mriedem | mnestratov: re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312704/ | 21:41 |
| mriedem | is there an os-brick initiator for virtuozzo? | 21:41 |
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| mriedem | i don't see one | 21:42 |
| mriedem | oh wait https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188805/ | 21:44 |
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| bauzas | bye folks,see you monday | 21:49 |
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| mriedem | o/ | 21:50 |
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| cdent | edleafe: I'm not sure I'm parsing your comment about a calculated field. What's there is explicitly to support the api described in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300176/ which wants a 'used' field and isn't really thinking about things in terms of what the scheduler might do. I see that the use cases create some impedance mismatches, but since the spec's not accepted yet, should there be more discussion there? | 21:54 |
| cdent | (sorry if my explain of you not making sense to me makes no sense to you, I've been on the phone a bit too much this evening) | 21:54 |
| edleafe | cdent: no, it's clear | 21:55 |
| edleafe | cdent: it's just that that spec is where the idea was first surfaced | 21:55 |
| edleafe | cdent: it may indeed be better to move the discussion to a prior spec | 21:56 |
| edleafe | cdent: you do understand the concern, though, right? | 21:56 |
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| cdent | Not entirely, because in the apotheosis of resource providers, the usage info isn't visible to the scheduler, it's just processed within the sql call that does the calculus to generate a list of available resources | 21:58 |
| cdent | edleafe, it would help me, when I look again tomorrow, if you could provide a bit more detail on the concern so I can easily recontextualize myself | 21:59 |
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| mikal | Morning | 21:59 |
| edleafe | cdent: Sure | 21:59 |
| cdent | awesome, thank you | 21:59 |
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| edleafe | cdent: Yingxin explained it well, but I'll add a little more to the spec comments | 22:00 |
| cdent | you rock | 22:00 |
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| auggy | good morning mikal! | 22:11 |
| auggy | i have a cells v2 question, i was looking at the cells v2 wiki and the Manifesto Etherpad linked there seems to be a bit garbled - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-cells-manifesto | 22:12 |
| auggy | is that current or is there something more current with more background information? | 22:12 |
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| auggy | it looks like some sections may have been deleted and someone's cat decided to add a few things to the etherpad | 22:13 |
| * auggy just discovered the "time slider" | 22:15 | |
| auggy | ok looks like this version is the "good one" - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-cells-manifesto/timeslider#904 | 22:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/nova: WIP: save connection_info during live migration https://review.openstack.org/312773 | 22:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove legacy v2 unit tests[f-n] https://review.openstack.org/311658 | 22:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Remove legacy v2 API code completely https://review.openstack.org/311653 | 22:40 |
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| melwitt | auggy: I think this is where it got captured as a doc http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/cells.html | 22:43 |
| auggy | melwitt: thanks! i think there's a cells v1 document floating around somewhere that confused me when i read it | 22:45 |
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| auggy | or rather, after the summit i realized i was completely confused about cells v2 vs cells v1 thanks to that document ;D haha | 22:45 |
| auggy | anyways that should clear some things up in my head, it may have just been an old developer docs page | 22:45 |
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| auggy | melwitt: also would you mind terribly if i updated the Cells v2 wiki page with that link? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova-Cells-v2 | 22:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove legacy v2 unit tests[f-n] https://review.openstack.org/311658 | 23:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Remove legacy v2 API code completely https://review.openstack.org/311653 | 23:03 |
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| zeroDivisible | hey guys, I'm wondering - I've been thinking about picking an easy bug to start digging through the Nova source code, would you have a suggestion for me to start? Only asking as last time I had picked one without doing enough research about the status of that bug and it turned out that my change was already covered by a pending patch. | 23:19 |
| auggy | zeroDivisible: we're currently working on updating our wiki and low-hanging-fruit list | 23:20 |
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| auggy | zeroDivisible: one thing i can recommend is getting involved with the Bugs team and helping out with bug skimming and triage | 23:20 |
| auggy | zeroDivisible: i've learned a lot by reproducing an issue and then trying to debug it | 23:21 |
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| melwitt | auggy: nope, I think it would be good to update that wiki, go for it | 23:21 |
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| auggy | zeroDivisible: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugsTeam | 23:22 |
| auggy | zeroDivisible: also another great project that's happening is the Config Options consolidation effort, I'll find the current etherpad with that info on it | 23:22 |
| zeroDivisible | auggy: perfect, thanks for the hints - I'll try to check that wiki and Config Options consolidation | 23:23 |
| melwitt | zeroDivisible: you can also do gerrit searches to check if a bug has a pending patch if for some reason the infra bot didn't update launchpad https://review.openstack.org/Documentation/user-search.html | 23:23 |
| melwitt | (assuming the pending patch has mentioned the lp bug number) | 23:24 |
| auggy | zeroDivisible: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/centralize-config-options-newton | 23:24 |
| auggy | melwitt: i went ahead and updated the link so it points to that doc :) thanks | 23:25 |
| melwitt | cool, thanks | 23:25 |
| auggy | zeroDivisible: also, we have a list of priorities for Newton and sometimes there are unassigned things and subgroups listed - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-priorities-tracking | 23:25 |
| auggy | zeroDivisible: so if any of those things look interesting and you'd like to help out, and it's not clear who to contact, feel free to ask here and we can point you to the right person | 23:26 |
| zeroDivisible | auggy: Thanks, that's what I wanted to do before starting to work on next thing. That config option centralization effort is really looking like an interesting candidate from a nova-newbie point of view. | 23:27 |
| auggy | zeroDivisible: cool! yeah and if you do see any bugs you'd like to work on, it's always a good idea to just double check in the channel in case there's extra "tribal knowledge" that might be helpful to know that's not in the bug | 23:28 |
| auggy | it also lets people know who you are and folks will keep an eye out for your patch :) | 23:28 |
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| zeroDivisible | auggy: haha, I think the second part is at least as important as first one :) So, technically, I'll do a quick skim today after work to check that nobody is working on it, but line 591 in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/config-options - 'disable_rootwrap' - is marked as "good for starters" | 23:32 |
| zeroDivisible | would this be a good thing to work on? | 23:32 |
| auggy | zeroDivisible: if it's marked "good for starters" then by all means dive in :) | 23:33 |
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| zeroDivisible | auggy: awesome, adding my name there and will give it a go. Thanks for help, I'm sure I may have more questions once I will understand what's going on and what needs to be done. | 23:33 |
| auggy | zeroDivisible: feel free to put your name next to it to claim it | 23:33 |
| auggy | zeroDivisible: yeah np and thanks for piping up in the channel :) | 23:34 |
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| zeroDivisible | np, thanks for help :) | 23:34 |
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