Monday, 2016-05-02

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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova-specs: Get Me a Network  https://review.openstack.org/28320600:10
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox in test_block_device_mapping_v1.py  https://review.openstack.org/30874600:58
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Replace assert statements in iptables and virt tests  https://review.openstack.org/28299200:58
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox in test_certificates.py  https://review.openstack.org/30824401:39
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openstackgerritKen'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Remove legacy v2 API code completely  https://review.openstack.org/31165302:27
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openstackgerritKen'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Remove legacy v2 API code completely  https://review.openstack.org/31165303:01
openstackgerritKen'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove legacy v2 unit tests[q-v]  https://review.openstack.org/31165603:01
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openstackgerritKen'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Remove legacy v2 API code completely  https://review.openstack.org/31165303:31
openstackgerritKen'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove legacy v2 unit tests[f-n]  https://review.openstack.org/31165803:31
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openstackgerritKen'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Remove legacy v2 API code completely  https://review.openstack.org/31165303:49
openstackgerritKen'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove legacy v2 unit tests[a-e]  https://review.openstack.org/31165903:49
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openstackgerritKen'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove legacy v2 unit tests[q-v]  https://review.openstack.org/31165604:30
openstackgerritKen'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove legacy v2 unit tests[f-n]  https://review.openstack.org/31165804:30
openstackgerritKen'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove legacy v2 unit tests[a-e]  https://review.openstack.org/31165904:30
openstackgerritKen'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Remove legacy v2 API code completely  https://review.openstack.org/31165304:30
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Add os-interface functional negative tests  https://review.openstack.org/27619704:47
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openstackgerritLaszlo Hegedus proposed openstack/nova: Replace root volume during rebuild  https://review.openstack.org/30507905:40
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openstackgerritMichal Stolarczyk proposed openstack/nova: Fix invalid UUID warnings for host_manager tests  https://review.openstack.org/31129406:02
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lennybmriedem: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226069/ updated. We had a small CI issue.06:18
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openstackgerritAlvaro Lopez Garcia proposed openstack/nova-specs: WIP: Propose to support preemptible instances  https://review.openstack.org/10488307:35
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Testing latest u-c  https://review.openstack.org/30334508:10
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openstackgerritDebayan Ray proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add support booting baremetals from Cinder volume  https://review.openstack.org/31169608:40
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add Allocation and AllocationList objects  https://review.openstack.org/28244209:01
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kashyap_diana_: Thanks for the comments on Friday, very useful.09:32
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Complete Verification of os-server-password  https://review.openstack.org/31171911:18
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openstackgerritKashyap Chamarthy proposed openstack/nova: compute: Retain instance metadata for 'evacuate' on shared storage  https://review.openstack.org/30944011:23
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Complete Verification of server-metadata  https://review.openstack.org/31172311:51
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add Allocation and AllocationList objects  https://review.openstack.org/28244211:53
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add name to ResourceProvider object  https://review.openstack.org/28194511:53
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add a get_by_uuid for aggregates  https://review.openstack.org/28489511:54
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Extend ResourceProvider to have resources and aggregates  https://review.openstack.org/28496311:55
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Complete Verification of server admin action  https://review.openstack.org/31172712:07
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Remove 413 as expected error code  https://review.openstack.org/31172812:20
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openstackgerritKashyap Chamarthy proposed openstack/nova: compute: Retain instance metadata for 'evacuate' on shared storage  https://review.openstack.org/30944012:46
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openstackgerritCédric LECOMTE proposed openstack/nova: Archive instance_actions and instance_actions_event  https://review.openstack.org/29947413:07
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dansmithalaski: so we talked about a lot of things at summit that I think need specs, like moving a few more things to the api db.. are you going work work on specs for those?13:45
dansmithor at least make a list of specs that need writing so we can discuss?13:45
dansmither s/discuss/assign/13:46
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mriedemhi-ho13:53
dimshowdy mriedem13:54
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jaypipesdansmith: francium keyboard arrived. loving it.13:55
dansmithjaypipes: hah, nice13:55
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dansmithmriedem: yes, moving that bit to the api DB (per your question over the weekend)13:55
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mriedemdansmith: ok, that's what i thought13:56
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edleafescheduler meeting in 2 minutes in #openstack-meeting-alt13:58
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rlrossitdansmith: I had an idea about making sure we do object backporting correct with respect to removing fields on the primitive14:02
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rlrossitno, wait, maybe I didn't think this through right14:03
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rlrossitdansmith: I'm thinking we see if the hash of the fields has changed, we try to run it through the compat code, and if the hash on the other side doesn't return it to what it was before, then we know they missed performing a compat?14:04
rlrossitis that sane, or is that just Monday babbling?14:05
dansmithrlrossit: the hash is run on the class, not an instance of the object14:05
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dansmithrlrossit: so you'd have to dynamically create a class that you build from something that has had the backport applied to it and then try to hash that14:06
rlrossitdynamically creating classes? I'm actually well practiced in that...14:06
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dansmithwell, creating the class isn't the hard part of course :)14:07
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rlrossitbut if we only have to worry about field hashing, we can ignore a large part of the object14:08
rlrossitwe actually could have a separate stub object that we send to obj_to_primitive that marks the del's on it?14:08
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dansmithyou're trying to catch when someone doesn't remove a field for version N when they added a new one, right?14:09
rlrossityeah14:09
dansmithlike, I bumped the version and added a field, but I didn't remove it in obj_make_compatible14:09
rlrossityup14:09
rlrossitand I'm trying to dynamically create that history14:10
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dansmithso if they don't remove it, how do you know what field to remove to try to make the hash line up?14:10
rlrossitumm.... common sense?14:10
rlrossiti.e. the field they added14:10
dansmithhow do you know which one that is?14:11
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openstackgerritLudovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox in nova/tests/unit/objects/test_pci_device.py  https://review.openstack.org/31128814:11
rlrossitI'm thinking I would be able to figure it out through my introspection with the dels and whatnot14:11
dansmithrlrossit: "with the dels" <-- what is that?14:11
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dansmithif you run obj_make_compatible(1.0) you still are left with the fields that were initially on the object, so how do you know that one of them is actually the ignored one?14:12
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rlrossitbecause "history" began with the fields on 1.014:12
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dansmithI must be missing something major14:13
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rlrossitthen if I added a field, but don't remove it from the primitive, I see that the hash has changed on the fields since history began, but the primitive returned still has the new field14:13
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rlrossitbut that primitive I'm working with is a magical unicorn object that can keep track of those things14:13
rlrossit(for tests only)14:13
rlrossitmaybe I'll try something out with this today, and I'll report back my findings?14:14
dansmithsure14:14
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rlrossitmriedem: I thought about this over the weekend... That server create stuff we were looking at with boot from volume with multiple, I noticed we were sending create_kwargs all over the place, but it's just a big dict.14:19
rlrossitSince we eventually pass that to the compute api, do we want to o.vo-ify that?14:19
rlrossitor is that what alaski's build request is doing?14:19
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mriedemthe BuildRequest is created in the compute API from the create_kwargs that are passed from the REST API14:20
rlrossitmriedem: why doesn't that just start its life in the api then?14:21
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mriedemrlrossit: i think it's some chicken-and-egg, the create kwargs are used to get some values that go into the BuildRequest, we'd have to move that logic all up into the REST API14:24
openstackgerritSven Anderson proposed openstack/nova: Let setup.py compile_catalog process all language files  https://review.openstack.org/31175314:25
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mriedemsvenkat: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251387/ is probably something to put on the agenda for the sriov/pci meeting that's tomorrow14:30
mriedemsvenkat: i'd like to know why a new spec was proposed rather than just restore and cleanup the previous spec for that blueprint, which had a lot of review on it already14:30
openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova-specs: Move aggregates tables to the API database  https://review.openstack.org/28808414:30
mriedemsvenkat: plus, CI testing is going to be major blocker on live migration + sriov14:30
mriedemsvenkat: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#SR-IOV/PCI_Passthrough_Meeting14:31
mriedemmoshele: ^ fyi14:31
openstackgerritDiana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: compute: Retain instance metadata for 'evacuate' on shared storage  https://review.openstack.org/30944014:31
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mriedemsvenkat: we also talked about cleaning up some of the live migration flows on friday at the summit, tdurakov was working on some of that,14:31
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mriedemi'd want to see live migration that we have today working better before we throw sriov into the mix14:32
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svenkatmriedem: thanks.14:34
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dansmithmriedem: jaypipes: trivial fix for a pretty ugly evacuate bug: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30944014:37
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jaypipesdansmith: what does evacuate --on-shared-storage really mean since evacuate == rebuild from scratch? :)14:39
dansmithjaypipes: it means don't actually destroy the root disk14:39
dansmithjaypipes: but do recreate the other things on the destination node that are required to start it in a new place14:39
dansmithjaypipes: like config drive, etc14:40
jaypipesdansmith: gotcha.14:40
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mriedemBobBall: xenserver ci is having some issues setting up devstack14:42
mriedemhttp://dd6b71949550285df7dc-dda4e480e005aaa13ec303551d2d8155.r49.cf1.rackcdn.com/40/309440/7/13518//run_tests.log14:42
mriedemdistutils.errors.DistutilsError: Setup script exited with error: command 'x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc' failed with exit status 114:42
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openstackgerritJulian proposed openstack/nova: WIP Add unit tests for nova.virt.firewall.IpTablesFirewallDriver  https://review.openstack.org/31175814:47
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mriedemdansmith: probably another case where we could use a tempest test, not for evacuate, but just rebuild14:56
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dansmithmriedem: don't we have a rebuild test in tempest already?14:57
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mriedemi doubt it's with a volume-backed instance14:57
mriedemi mention that because https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16099/ added the image_meta = {}14:57
dansmithand evacuate came after that right?14:58
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dansmithmriedem: also, I think I'm good with this now: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288084/614:58
dansmithare we good to approve?14:58
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mriedemit looks like evacuate came after that change in 2012 yes14:59
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mriedemi haven't looked at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288084/ yet, ideally alaski would be +2 on it, but i think he's maybe out today?14:59
dansmithokay15:00
mriedemshart, meeting time15:00
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mriedemoomichi: mtreinish: if one wanted to add a volume-backed instance rebuild test in tempest, would that be a compute API test or scenario test?15:05
mriedemthe existing rebuild tests are compute API testes15:05
mriedemoops, tests :)15:05
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Extend ResourceProvider to have resources and aggregates  https://review.openstack.org/28496315:11
moshelesvenkat: you can put your spec on the SR-IOV meeting agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sriov_meeting_agenda15:12
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moshelesvenkat: but first we want to fix the resize and migration and improve CI15:13
kashyap_diana_: Thanks for fixing dansmith 's comments.  (Sorry, a bit unwell, heading out for real now.)15:13
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_diana_kashyap: Feel better, I'll respin if needed.15:14
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mtreinishmriedem: probably an api test is fine15:41
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cfriesen__I'm rewording the spec for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/improve-sched-error-reporting    Should I add a config option to control whether we emit all sched filter debug logs vs only emit on sched failure?  Or just unconditionally only emit on sched failure?16:15
alaskidansmith: mriedem just popping in before lunch, yes I am out today and I expect more specs to go up for db migrations. doffm should have the right of first refusal on those, and I can put a list together if he exercises that right16:15
dansmithalaski: okay, not sure what that all means, but we can sync up tomorrow16:16
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mriedemcfriesen__: IMO, the sane default is unconditionally emit only on scheduler failure16:18
mriedemi don't know why you'd turn that off16:18
cfriesen__mriedem: agreed that it's the sane default.  just wondering if anyone would ever want *all* the logs.  I'm happy to make it just emit on failure.16:19
alaskidansmith: yeah, let's sync tomorrow.16:20
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: docs: link to Laski's cells talk from the Austin summit  https://review.openstack.org/31178116:24
openstackgerritChris Friesen proposed openstack/nova-specs: Improve Scheduler Error Reporting  https://review.openstack.org/30664716:26
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mriedemcfriesen__: i posted that on the -operators channel too, would be good to get their opinion on using this16:29
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cfriesen__mriedem: good call16:32
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mriedemBobBall: i've dropped citrix xenserver ci from the nova-ci group, it's basically -1ing everything right now16:33
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efriedmriedem, yay16:36
mriedemefried: ?16:37
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efriedmriedem, I had a trivial change set that citrix was denying.16:38
mriedemefried: oh, just recheck it16:38
efriednod, thx16:38
doffmalaski: dansmith: I have specs up for the quota and 'others' migrations. No reviews as yet.16:38
doffmhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/292973/16:38
doffmhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/294209/16:39
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mriedemdoffm: on that last one, didn't we nack agent-builds?16:39
doffmI abandoned the spec I had up for nova-net migrations as we decided that wasn't going to be done.16:39
mriedemhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-cells16:39
dansmithdoffm: okay16:39
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doffmmriedem: Yes we did. Will update now.16:39
mriedemand certificates was questionable16:39
doffmI don't know if we have a solution for certificates right now.16:40
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doffmIf we don't move them I mean.16:40
mriedemi think the question was, what are they used for? if it's only for ec2 stuff, then we don't move them.16:40
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doffmI see. Will look in to that now.16:40
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doffmHmmmm.16:44
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doffmHmmmmm. I can't see it used anywhere but the image/s3 file and our api.16:46
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mriedemand the image/s3 file should be dropped at some point16:46
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mriedemdoffm: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/man/nova-cert.html16:55
mriedem"Used to generate certificates for euca-bundle-image.  Only needed for EC2 API."16:56
doffmmriedem: Ok. Will remove that from spec and make a note that its NOT being moved for a good reason.16:58
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mriedemdoffm: well https://github.com/openstack/ec2-api/blob/master/ec2api/clients.py#L160-L17316:58
mriedemthe ec2api repo uses one method from the certs rpcapi16:59
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doffmHmmmmm. Good find. I was only grepping on the import, not a direct use of the messaging topic. :)17:00
mriedemwell, and, ec2api is out of tree for nova17:00
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mriedemdoffm: dansmith: it might be easier to just decouple certificates into it's own spec for migration17:04
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mriedemwe don't even have objects for certs today17:04
dansmithmriedem: I'm confused.. we can't drop certificates?17:04
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mriedemdansmith: wouldn't that break the ec2api? i'm not sure what the rules are there.17:04
mriedemwe moved the ec2 api out of tree, but it's using things in tree, and i thought we had some level of compat for the split out to work17:05
dansmithyou think they use our cert storage/17:05
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mriedemas far as i can tell they are just using our decrypt utility :)17:05
mriedemway roundabout way of using that utility17:06
dansmithbut through the api or via import?17:06
mriedemthrough the rpcapi17:06
mriedemnot via rest api17:06
dansmith....seriously?17:06
mriedemyes https://github.com/openstack/ec2-api/blob/master/ec2api/clients.py#L160-L17317:06
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/ec2-api/blob/e25d1908e6fafe29ae3d7a7279631fb42d348c5d/ec2api/api/image.py#L97817:06
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mriedemwhich eventually calls this https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/crypto.py#L17217:07
dansmithare they calling into our rpc for anything else?17:07
dansmithbecause cells is going to break them a lot if they are I think17:07
mriedemthat's the only one i see in that clients module17:08
mriedemeverything else is using the python client libs17:08
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mriedemi'm going to step away to get some food while you digest this17:09
dansmithwell, should be easy to move that into their project methinks17:10
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doffmSo we should have a spec for sorting this out, rather than moving the certs tables?17:11
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openstackgerritChris Friesen proposed openstack/nova-specs: Improve Scheduler Error Reporting  https://review.openstack.org/30664717:13
cfriesen^ just fixing up formatting stuff17:13
dansmithdoffm: well, it depends on what the solution is, because if it's "remove this and let ec2 figure it out", then the spec is just "delete this thing"17:14
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openstackgerritLudovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Enable python34 tests for nova.tests.unit.virt.libvirt.test_config*  https://review.openstack.org/31179417:24
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cdentedleafe: "not really an error" very good point17:43
edleafecdent: heh17:45
mriedemso reading https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305455/17:46
mriedem"Get and inject provisioning system credentials"17:46
mriedemwhich came up in the first unconference,17:46
mriedemit doesn't really sound much different from the hooks that they were using before, it's just formalizing an abstract base class that nova calls, and by default is not implemented17:47
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mriedemand therefore is not tested at all besides unit testing17:47
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mriedemthe actual driver impl is some out of tree thing17:48
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dansmithmriedem: the driver would be in tree, and just make a request to some other service17:49
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dansmithmriedem: so we would control the fetching driver and could set up a simple fake thing in devstack to test it if we wanted17:50
dansmithmriedem: oh, sorry17:50
dansmiththought you mean the vendordata approach17:50
mriedemdansmith: was looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305455/17:50
mriedemdansmith: and you're talking about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310904/17:50
mriedemwhich i haven't read yet17:50
openstackgerritChris Friesen proposed openstack/nova-specs: Improve Scheduler Error Reporting  https://review.openstack.org/30664717:50
dansmithmriedem: that spec specifically wants to integrate a specific driver, which I agree I'd rather us not do17:51
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mriedemplus it's not versioned,17:51
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mriedemso we could break it17:51
dansmithyup17:52
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cdentmriedem: since you're busily catching up on specs and what not, you left instructions on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239663/ that appear wrong (I left a response)17:52
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mriedemcdent: see #3, we're going to change the db api to sort by user_id17:53
mriedemso the results will be sorted, always17:53
cfriesenedleafe: would you be happier with "improve scheduler failure reporting"?  and if so does that mean I need to rename the blueprint?  As for the huge amount of logging, did you see the paragraph about the "scheduler_suppress_log_filters" config option ?17:54
cdentmriedem: that seems likely to result in a poor user experience17:54
cdentif in fact one ever wants to sort on anything else (I'm unclear if anyone would)17:54
edleafecfriesen: how about "scheduler decision reporting"?17:54
mriedemcdent: how many things in the keypair table do you see as useful for sorting?17:55
edleafecfriesen: and yes, I saw that option. What I'm saying is that it's probably too coarse17:55
cfriesenedleafe: "improve scheduler logging"?   You suggested a config option to limit which filters emit logs...that's what I proposed.17:56
edleafecfriesen: IOW, if you're interested in what the NUMA filter did, do you really want logs of the memory/disk/etc. too?17:56
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cfriesenedleafe: yes, so you add them to the suppression list and they're gone17:56
cdentmriedem: nada mucho17:56
mriedemcdent: yeah, that's why we agreed on friday to not even worry about sorting in the request17:57
mriedemas long as you can page and get sorted results back17:57
cdentI guess I was misled by the reference the to horizin doing local sorts17:57
cdentsounds like not a lot of point for that either17:57
edleafecfriesen: I guess that seems backwards to me. Specifying the ones you are interested in makes more sense than specifying those you aren't17:57
mriedemthe bp started from a horizon requirement17:57
mriedemcdent: so it just came up in discussion in the meetup on friday17:58
cdent✔17:58
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cfriesenedleafe: I started off that way, but given the request by Jesse Keating it seemed to make more sense to default to the current behaviour of emitting all logs when debug logging is enabled, which led to the suppression filter rather than the enabling filter.  That way anyone running with debug logs will get the same behaviour they do currently.18:02
mriedemhuh, we don't even test JsonFileVendorData18:02
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doffmcfriesen: That makes sense. Will debug level info be rolled up in to the failure reports?18:03
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cfriesendoffm: yes, that's the plan.  the latest proposal is that if you're running with debug logging then you get debug logs as normal.  if you're running with higher levels then the debug logs get accumulated and emitted on exception.NoValidHost18:05
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cfriesenI've also proposed a "scheduler_suppress_log_filters" config option which would apply regardless of log level, to turn off logging for specific sched filters18:06
cfriesenan argument could be made that it'd be better to specify which ones we want, but I didn't see a good way to make that affect debug logs without changing current default behaviour (and maybe giving unexpected results to operators)18:07
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cburgessOh god the mountain of email post summit.. /sigh18:19
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edleafecburgess: I feel ya, bro!18:23
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openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/nova-specs: Neutron Routed Networks  https://review.openstack.org/26389818:52
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mriedemjaypipes: re: host capabilities, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304715/ for the scaleio ephemeral storage spec19:00
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mriedemthere is the issue of passing a non-8gb increment flavor to a host using scaleio for ephemeral storage. the way the spec is written, that would fail.19:01
mriedemi was wondering if host capabilities would show that a host is using scaleio for ephemeral and we can then only schedule certain instances (with certain flavors) to that host19:02
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dansmithmriedem: you said something earlier about xen ci being broken right?19:13
mriedemdansmith: yes, xenserver ci is busted19:13
dansmitha lot of people are rechecking xen, which might not be super useful if it's broken19:14
mriedemi removed it from the nova-ci group so it doesn't keep voting19:14
dansmithokay19:14
mriedemnot sure if a specific recheck fixes it or not, probably not19:14
mriedemi was just doing the generic 'recheck'19:14
dansmithwas it 100% fail or no?19:14
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mriedemnot sure19:15
dansmithokay19:15
mriedembut i saw it a lot this morning, and it was a devstack package install failure19:15
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mriedemso probably a mirror issue for them19:15
dansmithyeah19:15
mriedemplus BobBall wasn't around19:15
mriedemso, disabled it19:15
dansmithyeah, cool19:15
dansmithdisabling it is where I was going19:15
mriedemsent an fyi to the ML19:18
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openstackgerritEdmund Rhudy proposed openstack/nova-specs: Nova disk quota tracking  https://review.openstack.org/31181819:27
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ildikovmriedem: I'm not sure you replied finally, will 1600UTC work for you on Thursday?19:42
mriedemildikov: yes19:42
mriedemildikov: not sure if that works for dansmith though, or if he's even coming at all19:42
mriedemildikov: is jgriffith going to be in that call?19:43
dansmithmriedem: I think I'm just holding ya'll back at this point, so you should go on without me19:43
ildikovmriedem: well, dansmith asked you to not be present, but we can move this slot if he wants to join19:43
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mriedemalright19:44
mriedem1600 UTC on thursday it is19:44
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ildikovdansmith: fair enough, we will describe the outcome in spec(s) and bug reports anyway19:44
mriedemildikov: is someone going to send out an invite?19:44
ildikovmriedem: jgriffith is available for the slot19:44
ildikovI thougth to create a Google Hangout link and send a mail to the ML19:45
ildikovdoes that sound ok?19:45
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openstackgerritPushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Config Options: Improve help text for debugger  https://review.openstack.org/31182219:45
mriedemto the ML? isn't the limit 10 people or something?19:45
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mriedemunless you want to put others in listen-only mode19:46
ildikovI don't think we had more than that on the weekly meetings, but I can send it out only to the few of us19:46
mriedemthat's fine with me19:46
mriedemi might not have my curlers out by 11am19:46
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jaypipesmriedem: I'll take a look at that scaleio thing later... not sure if capabilities would fit there or not.19:47
ildikovmriedem: 1600UTC is the earliest that works for me19:47
ildikovwe can move it if a later slot works better for you19:48
mriedemildikov: was joking, it works fine19:48
ildikovmriedem: lol :)19:48
openstackgerritDiana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Fixing a few more ComputeDriver mocks  https://review.openstack.org/31182419:48
ildikovmriedem: jet lag is just about to kick in, I barely know where I am, who I am, etc. so I might not realise jokes today :)19:49
mriedemin that case, you might be interested in an investment opportunity i have19:49
ildikovmriedem: hehe, I'm just a poor Hungarian girl ;)19:50
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mriedemwith https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310050/ wouldn't we have a circular dependency between nova and manila?19:58
mriedemoh i guess not, manila creates the shares19:58
mriedemnova attaches them19:58
openstackgerritEdmund Rhudy proposed openstack/nova-specs: Nova disk quota tracking  https://review.openstack.org/31181819:58
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openstackgerritEdmund Rhudy proposed openstack/nova-specs: Nova disk quota tracking  https://review.openstack.org/31182820:00
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mriedemdansmith: so the virtio-vsock stuff in qemu is still under development?20:07
mriedemreading up on this manila spec20:07
mriedemand was looking at http://vmsplice.net/~stefan/stefanha-connectathon-2016.pdf20:07
dansmithmriedem: yeah, I think someone said that was still a ways off from being usable20:07
mriedemok, so let's add this thing into nova that depends on it but good luck getting it to work, let alone us ever being able to CI test it20:07
dansmithvsock gives us the ability to have a non-networked socket between the guest and host, over which we could run smb or nfs, which proxies out to the real storage20:07
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dansmiththat's why 9p is the interim solution because it's available, not not well liked or recommended by virt people20:08
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mriedemdansmith: b/c of security?20:11
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dansmithnot sure.. assumed stability or hackiness20:11
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mag009_hey guys20:12
mriedemok, was just reading up on http://wiki.qemu.org/Documentation/9psetup and http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/9p_virtio20:12
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mag009_can someone check my bug/fix that I've opened 2months ago20:12
mriedemactually http://rabexc.org/posts/p9-setup-in-libvirt rather than that 2nd link20:12
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mag009_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265463/20:12
mag009_actually 3months ago20:12
mriedemooo and kernel modules for 9p20:12
mriedemdanpb loves kernel modules20:13
mag009_can someone tell me what I have to do next...20:13
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mriedemmag009_: some tips,20:13
mriedemthe commit message could use some work, i for one have never heard of quagga/zebra20:14
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dansmithmriedem: dynamic routing daemons for linux20:14
dansmithmag009_: also, needs a test20:14
mriedemyes, that was my 2nd point20:14
* dansmith runs quagga at home of course20:14
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mag009_I tried to keep it short for the desc20:15
mag009_but I guess I can describe a little more if need be20:15
mag009_at least if someone can answer I've submited like 3months ago20:15
mag009_and no one replied to me20:15
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mag009_on launchpad  someone confirmed the bug20:16
mag009_but nothing since20:16
dansmithmag009_: you should be excluding nova-managed net devices from your routing daemon, I think20:16
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mriedemmag009_: the 'confirmed' state on the bug, i'm not sure i trust that, i.e. i doubt the person that triaged it actually recreated it20:16
openstackgerritVladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: New configuration classes to parse device address element  https://review.openstack.org/30414720:16
openstackgerritVladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: attach configdrive after instance spawn  https://review.openstack.org/30333520:16
dansmithunless you're trying to advertise the segments we bring up?20:16
openstackgerritVladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: db: adding path, serial and address fields to block devices  https://review.openstack.org/31061520:16
openstackgerritVladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: db: adding bus and bus_address to virtual interfaces  https://review.openstack.org/31061620:16
openstackgerritVladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: objects: adding serial, path, bus_address fields to bdm object  https://review.openstack.org/31061720:16
openstackgerritVladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: objects: adding bus and bus_address to virtual interfaces object  https://review.openstack.org/31061820:17
openstackgerritVladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: Device tagging metadata API support  https://review.openstack.org/30451120:17
openstackgerritVladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: Device tagging API support  https://review.openstack.org/30451020:17
openstackgerritVladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: Compute manager device tagging support  https://review.openstack.org/26401720:17
openstackgerritVladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: Libvirt driver implementation of device tagging  https://review.openstack.org/26401620:17
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mag009_dansmith: what do you mean I should exclude nova-managed20:17
dansmithmag009_: are you trying to advertise the segments that correspond to nova-managed devices to the network?20:18
mag009_of course20:18
mag009_we are deploying a L3 for openstack20:18
dansmithand it really doesn't notice that the net device is destroyed?20:18
mag009_yep because when you do a ip link delete it doesn't trigger any netlink event20:19
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mag009_and quagga is not scaning the route table but wait for those netevent to delete it20:19
dansmithhmm20:20
dansmithmag009_: you're failing the grenade test for network reasons,20:20
openstackgerritRyan Rossiter proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Enforce field removals in obj_make_compatible()  https://review.openstack.org/31183220:20
rlrossitdansmith: ^ I did it. That took a lot of brain.20:20
openstackgerritChris Friesen proposed openstack/nova-specs: Improve Scheduler Error Reporting  https://review.openstack.org/30664720:20
dansmithand generally having a -1 from jenkins will mean people won't review20:20
cfriesen_lunch^ name changed per Ed Leafe20:20
mag009_i guess its because i have to rebase it20:20
mag009_its been so long ...20:21
mriedemit doesn't say it's in merge conflict20:21
cfriesen_lunchgrr...missed the git commit message20:21
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mag009_funny thing is first time I ran the CI only one failed and it wasn't my fault20:21
mag009_than I re-ran it and now 3 ci fail20:21
openstackgerritChris Friesen proposed openstack/nova-specs: Improve Scheduler Logging  https://review.openstack.org/30664720:21
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dansmithrlrossit: ah, I see, another set of hashes20:21
mikalMorning20:22
dansmithrlrossit: I thought you were opposed to more in-tree static stuff.. is it really worth two sets of hashes to catch that case?20:22
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mriedemmikal: o/20:23
openstackgerritChris Friesen proposed openstack/nova-specs: Improve Scheduler Logging  https://review.openstack.org/30664720:23
mriedemmag009_: i've commented20:23
cfriesen_lunchsorry for the noise, folks20:23
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mriedemmag009_: also, you don't need to +1 your own change20:24
rlrossitdansmith: dunno. These hashes should very very rarely change20:25
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dansmithrlrossit: any time someone adds a field, right?20:25
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rlrossitbecause they are the start of written history to know what we should be backporting to20:25
dansmithi.e. as often as the other20:25
rlrossitnope20:25
rlrossitif they add a field and delete it, their hash will match the beginning of history20:25
rlrossitadd a field and remove it from the primitive that is20:25
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mag009_alright thanks Matt20:26
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ccarmackalaski, doffm: are the cells config settings in https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/lib/nova#L647 still used in cells v2?20:27
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openstackgerritRyan Rossiter proposed openstack/nova: Break field compat testing  https://review.openstack.org/31183620:28
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dansmithrlrossit: ah, okay I see.. you're destroying the global definition of each class in that test20:28
dansmithrlrossit: I'm guessing the object repository restore is fixing it for you20:28
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rlrossitI have no idea what you mean by that statement20:29
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dansmithrlrossit: you pass FooObject.fields into the primitivetester, which then deletes things from it, right?20:30
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dansmithyou're never copying that dict, which means you're modifying the classes20:30
rlrossitdansmith: not quite. you pass in the object to obj_make_compatible, and if it does del obj['somefield'], it'll take that field off of the object20:30
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dansmithrlrossit: right, out of the dict you stole from the class20:31
rlrossitthen it'll hash the fields over again, and if it matches the hash at the start of history, it means we removed primitive fields correctly20:31
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rlrossitoh crap I'm not20:31
rlrossitI never thought of that20:31
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rlrossitwait.. I think that can help me cheat to do this easier...20:32
rlrossitthough I don't know if I should be doing that20:32
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dansmithso, sidebar... aside from consistency, do you know what fails at runtime if we forgot to remove a newly added field during an obj_make_compatible?20:32
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dansmithalso, I don't think this catches the much more important case of a field definition changing, right?20:33
rlrossitdansmith: the only thing I can think of is that if someone tries to hydrate with **primitive_data, you'll splode with keyword problems20:33
dansmithrlrossit: but we don't do that.. we hydrate based on our local set of fields for the object,20:34
rlrossitdansmith: true, I was trying to think of how to manage that...20:34
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dansmithwhich means we ignore any new fields that are in the primitive that we don't expect20:34
dansmithso, it's nice for consistency for sure, but... it really doesn't matter at all :)20:34
* rlrossit abandons patch20:34
dansmithhang on20:34
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rlrossitlet me be a drama queeeeeeen20:35
dansmithI'm not saying you should.. it just seems like a lot of machinery20:35
dansmithI abandoned my own patch a while back because I decided it wasn't *at all* worth it20:35
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dansmithyours is less specific than mine, but also less likely to be a pita to maintain20:35
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rlrossitI thought bauzas needed it for some reason20:35
dansmithso, if you think it's important, we can put it in (after you fix breaking the global classes), but....20:35
rlrossitwhich is why you made yours20:35
dansmithhe wanted it to make review easier20:36
dansmithor rather, to avoid missing that kind of thing during review20:36
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dansmithbut it can be fixed later if/when we notice, and ... it really doesn't actually matter on the wire20:36
rlrossityeah that's true20:36
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dansmithand between the two of us, we've spend a couple days trying to write a test for a thing that at the end of the day doesn't matter at all :D20:37
rlrossitwelcome to my life20:37
dansmithhah20:37
* rlrossit pretends to be joking with that statement20:37
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rlrossitlet the record show though, I did a useless thing better than dansmith20:38
dansmithI was trying to be too specific about all the versions in between.. this is a much better way to go about it, just obsessing over the end point20:39
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rlrossitdansmith: it exists if we ever feel like someday using it. Until then, I'll put it down for a long nap20:41
rlrossitI just wanted to prove I could do it though :)20:42
dansmithrlrossit: so proven.20:42
mriedemrlrossit: there are other things you could be spending a full day hacking on :)20:42
rlrossitmriedem: that's nonsense20:42
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mriedemrlrossit: i have like 3 tempest tests in my head that need to be written20:44
mriedemand no one to write them20:44
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openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova-specs: Spec for the vendordata reboot.  https://review.openstack.org/31090420:49
mriedemcburgess: have you or nic seen this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309832/20:49
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mriedemjust went through and marked it up, -120:57
mriedemthe good news is, there are no work items :)20:57
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tbachmanmriedem: any of those tests good ones for n00bs?20:59
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mriedemtbachman: sure!20:59
tbachman:)20:59
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mriedemtbachman: from this morning, we could use a compute api test in tempest that rebuilds a server that is booted from a volume21:00
tbachmanI have to wrap up some stuff this week, but if those will still be around in a week, I can try one out21:00
mriedemtbachman: no one ever wants to add tests to tempest so i'm sure it will be21:00
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tbachmanmriedem: lol21:00
mriedemthere was another one in the friday meetup https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-meetup21:00
mriedemline 1821:01
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mriedemthat one is probably more complicated since it involves neutron21:01
tbachmanmriedem: the one with the line through it?21:01
* tbachman is more familiar with neutron than nova… but not by much ;)21:01
mriedemtbachman: we just struck through items as we finished talking about them21:01
tbachmanmriedem: I’ll take a look next week21:01
tbachmanping me mid-next week to bother me :)21:01
tbachmanlol21:02
mriedemthere was also this https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/156459621:02
openstackLaunchpad bug 1564596 in OpenStack Compute (nova) " backup operation of volume backed instances cannot be done in pause and suspend state " [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Saverio Proto (zioproto)21:02
tbachmansee if I’ve made any progress21:02
mriedemnoted21:02
mriedemmarkus_z was also expressing interest in the neutron related one but after n-121:02
mriedemwhich is a month away...so i'm all for first come first served here21:03
tbachmanmriedem: which would you think is the better one for the n00b? The compute api test or the one you linked?21:03
mriedemcompute api test21:03
tbachmank21:03
mriedemrebuild from volume-backed instance21:03
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mriedemmainly because you can copy existing tests in tempest and tweak them21:03
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* tbachman excels at breaking copy-paste :)21:03
tbachmanI like having something to start with21:03
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tbachmanb/c I can break it, and learn21:03
mriedemme too21:04
tbachmanas well as see what existing tests do21:04
mriedemthat's generally how i add tempest tests21:04
tbachmanmriedem: happen to have a link to any existing such test (no sweat if you don’t… just being lazy ;) )21:04
mriedemdoes this count as mentoring? because i have to check that box for the day/week.21:04
tbachmanlol21:05
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tbachmanmriedem: I’ll call it mentoring if you will21:05
tbachman(wink, wink, nudge, nudge, saynomoresaynomore)21:05
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mriedemtbachman: there are some rebuild server tests in here https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/api/compute/servers/test_server_actions.py21:05
tbachmanmriedem: thx!21:06
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mriedemand rpodolyaka has a patch here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175949/ sort of related, but not boot from volume21:06
mriedemjust rebuild with attached volumes21:06
tbachmanmriedem: ACK21:07
tbachmanand thanks for the leads21:07
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mikalIs requests going to be the least worst way of making a HTTP request inside nova these days? Or do we have a preference for something else?21:07
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mordredmikal: what are you making the request to?21:09
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mikalAn external REST service21:09
mordredk. yeah. if it's an external non-OpenStack REST service - use requests for sure21:09
mikalmordred: I am playing with prototyping https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310904/4/specs/newton/approved/vendordata-reboot.rst,unified21:09
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mriedemmikal: might want to talk to cdent since he's working on, i think, the placement API stuff for the scheduler21:10
mordredmikal: cool! and yes, skimming that my answer still stands - requests is the best bet for that sort of REST query21:10
mikalmriedem: got a spec link for that?21:10
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mikalmordred: cool, I shall thing the thing then21:10
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mordred(I ask because REST requests to openstack services should use keystoneauth Adapter objects which behave like requests Session objects but take care of keystone auth bits)21:10
mikalAlso, its amazing. You people actually talk here, so long as I get up at 6am to observe this behaviour.21:11
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mriedemmikal: i'll hunt21:11
mriedemjaypipes owns the spec21:11
mordredmikal: well, I was only here because I was about to ask a question21:11
mordredlike this ...21:11
* mikal braces21:11
mordredheya ... in a 'normal' nova, are there any host aggregate operations which a normal user would perform? or are they pretty much all admin functions?21:11
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mriedemmikal: i think it's this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183837/21:12
mikalmordred: scheduling?21:12
mikalmordred: does that count as a user action?21:12
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mikalmriedem: /me looks21:12
mordredmikal: those would be nova boot params though yeah?21:12
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mikalmordred: yes21:12
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mordredmikal: so, I guess to ask better- would normal users actually expect to hit the REST endpoints for host aggregates?21:12
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jaypipesmordred: all admin functions.21:12
mordredossum21:12
mriedemmordred: no21:13
mordredthen I'm not lying in the code review I'm going to leave. woot!21:13
mikalmordred: I agree with those guys21:13
mriedemthe user uses AZs21:13
mikalmordred: who are all smarter than me21:13
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mordredmriedem: woot. it still makes my review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310937 correct - which is "these are admin functions, please to put into operatorcloud.py"21:14
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mordredthanks errbody21:14
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mriedemmordred: that review comment is overall too happy and positive and encouraging21:15
mriedemespecially for a new contributor21:15
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mriedemtheir soul might not actually be broken after their first patch21:15
mordredmriedem: I know - I really should have insulted him shouldn't I?21:15
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mriedemdansmith: i sent out the unconference sessions epic, please correct anything i screwed up in there21:16
dansmithmriedem: I was just reading them with a feeling of approval21:16
mriedemspeaking of soul crushing21:17
mriedemcells v2 recap tonight21:17
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mikalLOL21:20
nicmriedem: that spec you added me on should be easy to implement; seeing as we already implemented it21:20
mriedemnic: heh, exactly :)21:20
mikalmriedem: this spec you've had me read is interesting, but I don't see how its relevant to vendordata? What am I missing?21:20
nicI found the other one he was talking about and added you to it21:20
mriedemmikal: it's not related to vendordata21:20
mriedemmikal: it's related to adding a new endpoint and REST API21:21
mikalmriedem: Oh, I'm plugging it in backwards though.21:21
mriedemand while doing that thing, cdent wants to use new and exotic libraries21:21
mikalmriedem: Nova is calling a new external-to-nova endpoint21:21
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mriedemmikal: the idea with the placement endpoint/API being different from the compute API is to eventually split that out21:21
mordredmriedem: what new and exotic libraries?21:22
* mordred goes to read spec21:22
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openstackgerritAnusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox from compute/test_compute_cells.py  https://review.openstack.org/30802121:22
mriedemmordred: at least gabbi for testing21:23
mriedemi assumed there were others21:23
mriedembecause where there is one new openstack depenedency, there are bound to be 10 others21:23
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mordredmriedem: that's a good point21:25
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mordredah. neat. gabbi is the "I'm a server-side dev" side of the http testing coin similarish to betamax from the client dev side of things21:25
* mordred likes21:25
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mriedemit's also an attempt to not redo the api samples functional testing mess we have in nova today21:27
mriedemso playing with new things when building a new thing is the time to do it21:27
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mordredI support such thinking21:29
dansmithI don't think it's quite like betamax,21:30
mordreddansmith: it's not like betamax at all actually21:31
dansmithheh21:31
mordredit's the opposite problem21:31
dansmithyeah21:31
mordredfwiw, my current plan in shade unittests is to use betamax to mock out _only_ the http calls in our functional tests - run all of the tests live against the existing public clouds (and devstack) out there ... and then run the functional tests against the recorded http interactions as our "unit" tests21:31
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mriedemdansmith: doffm: jaypipes: so ResourceProviderAggregates are already in the API DB?21:37
mriedemlookingat https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/resource_provider.py#L2321:38
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dansmithum21:39
mriedemor i'm confusing db_api with actually, cell sqla db api21:39
mriedemnot 'api' db api21:39
dansmithyeah21:39
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dansmithmain_context_manager means in the cell db21:39
oomichimriedem: mtreinish: "volume-backed instance rebuild test" seems complex, nice to add it as a scenario test.21:39
oomichimriedem: mtreinish: "boot from volume test" is a scenario test now on https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/scenario/test_volume_boot_pattern.py#L11221:40
mriedemoomichi: yeah but that also ssh's into the guest and writes a file, etc21:40
mriedemi wasn't planning on seeing that for the rebuild + BFV test21:40
mriedemjust that the API doesn't explode21:41
openstackgerritDiana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Fix database poison warnings, part 8  https://review.openstack.org/31186621:43
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oomichimriedem: ah, it is possible to add it as api test based on https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/api/compute/admin/test_live_migration.py#L10021:45
oomichimriedem: it seems easy if we re-use the above code for that21:45
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mriedemdansmith: last dumb question for the day, and i know i reviewed most of this, but with the flavor object, i'm not seeing that we migrate the flavor from the cell db to the api db when it's accessed (first time pulled from the cell db), i'm only see the method to brute force migrate the flavors21:52
mriedemam i missing something?21:52
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dansmithmriedem: right, we only migrate those when they run the command,21:54
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dansmithsince they're only managed by admins, and because we wanted to keep the db ids in sync21:55
dansmithwhich isn't really possible any other way21:55
mriedemok, do we expect to do the same for aggregates then?21:55
dansmithand because there aren't that many flavors21:55
mriedembecause doffm's spec says it's going to live migrate them to the api db on access21:55
dansmithI think we have to because they also depend on the ids being the same21:55
dansmithalthough only admins see them21:55
dansmithokay, I missed that in the spec then21:55
openstackgerritLudovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Remove DictCompat from InstancePCIRequests object  https://review.openstack.org/31187021:56
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openstackgerritDiana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Trivial: dead code  https://review.openstack.org/31187322:00
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mriedemok, found some other issues in the cells-aggregate-api-db spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288084/22:05
mriedemso -1 for now22:05
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openstackgerritKen'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove legacy v2 unit tests[q-v]  https://review.openstack.org/31165622:56
openstackgerritKen'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove legacy v2 unit tests[f-n]  https://review.openstack.org/31165822:56
openstackgerritKen'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Remove legacy v2 API code completely  https://review.openstack.org/31165322:56
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