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| oomichi | alex_xu: sorry about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308014/ , the reviews conflicted | 00:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova: XenAPI: OVS agent updates the wrong port with Neutron https://review.openstack.org/242846 | 02:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | guo.lei proposed openstack/nova: Make sure image metadata is retained after evacuation https://review.openstack.org/308719 | 05:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: deprecate use_usb_tablet in favor of pointer_model https://review.openstack.org/176242 | 05:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/303345 | 08:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | For other cores floating around, this centralize config patch keeps being a rebase ping pong, would be good to get it in: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295938/ | 09:23 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: ack | 09:28 |
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| bauzas | markus_z: johnthetubaguy: I'm pretty afraid of merging new config stuff (eg. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295938/) given https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1568820 | 09:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1568820 in oslo.config "Duplicate sections in generated config" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Ben Nemec (bnemec) | 09:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova-specs: Automatic Live Migration Completion https://review.openstack.org/306561 | 09:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: well, once we get it all moved, that will be easier to fix, I assume. Seems we are very close to getting them all moved now | 09:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | if we can get that done before mitaka-1, that would be good | 09:34 |
| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: hi, could we merge this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308389/ | 09:34 |
| openstackgerrit | John Hua proposed openstack/nova: XenAPI: Remove ovs_integration_bridge default value https://review.openstack.org/299092 | 09:35 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: well, I understand that (s/mitaka/newton, btw.), I just wonder how we can be sure to not create more duplicate sections | 09:36 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: we just started droping the .names recently, we can just be sure to put them all back in | 09:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: this says its a duplicate, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306682 do you know where the duplicate is? | 09:37 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: sure, my concern is that I was a bit away of the modifications, so I'm not sure +Wing the above wouldn't create duplicates | 09:37 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: understood | 09:37 |
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| bauzas | maybe markus_z could clarify | 09:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: well, if it helps, that particular change is only adding things into the DEFAULT group | 09:38 |
| bauzas | or I could test it locally | 09:38 |
| bauzas | okay, I haven't verified yet | 09:38 |
| bauzas | good to know | 09:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: the gate generates the sample file, and uploads it in the docs, if that helps | 09:38 |
| bauzas | if so, that's not a problem then | 09:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295938/11/nova/conf/compute.py@305 | 09:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: although thanks for the heads up on that bug, I missed the earlier convo about that | 09:39 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I see, then the above is not impacted by the bug I mentioned | 09:40 |
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| * bauzas now *really* reviewing the change: p | 09:40 | |
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| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: hi, are you around? | 09:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhang.shaoman-zte proposed openstack/nova-specs: Report Host Memory and Disk Info https://review.openstack.org/308858 | 09:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hieu LE proposed openstack/nova: Config options: centralize section "ssl" https://review.openstack.org/306267 | 09:52 |
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| gmann | johnthetubaguy: do you know why we did not backport this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270497/1 | 09:55 |
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| gmann | johnthetubaguy: now (Mitaka/Master), pass with POST + Content_Type: text/plain | 09:56 |
| gmann | which have 400 till Liberty seems | 09:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | gmann: we don't normally backport refactors like that, but I think its probably OK to back port it, so the other fix will merge OK | 09:56 |
| gmann | johnthetubaguy: otehr fix i backported as per liberty code. | 09:57 |
| gmann | issue am thinking is with content type text/plain. success for Mitaka onwards and 400 till liberty | 09:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | gmann: oh, sorry, I see. it seems OK to back port that, given we didn't bump the API version at all | 09:58 |
| gmann | johnthetubaguy: yeaterday one - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308823/ | 09:58 |
| gmann | johnthetubaguy: yea. | 09:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | gmann: we generally backport on demand, or for every scary bugs, rather than by default, although that is changing now | 09:58 |
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| gmann | johnthetubaguy: yea, might be we missed that change as it was just cleanup | 09:59 |
| johnthetubaguy | gmann: that seems the most likely reason, probably should have had a bug report on that patch | 09:59 |
| gmann | yea | 09:59 |
| gmann | johnthetubaguy: quick question. what is situation on Kilo (may be i missed the discussion). only security bugs? | 10:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: driver.pre_live_migration migrate_data is always an object https://review.openstack.org/308876 | 10:01 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: woah, reviewing the config opts change means that we need to verify opt by opt | 10:03 |
| bauzas | huuuge | 10:03 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: yeah, its not fun the first time | 10:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, its worse the second time | 10:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: some of them are file moves, which is a bit nicer | 10:08 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: yeah, I'm diffing those | 10:08 |
| bauzas | just wondering how we could make sure everything is good | 10:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize security_group_api opt https://review.openstack.org/303084 | 10:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: its difficult, its why I ask for the move to be separate to updating the description text, those ones blew my mind | 10:11 |
| bauzas | I agree | 10:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Config options: centralize section "ssl" https://review.openstack.org/306267 | 10:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Hieu LE proposed openstack/nova: Config options: completing centralize neutron options https://review.openstack.org/304001 | 10:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Config options: centralize section "ssl" https://review.openstack.org/306267 | 10:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Move config options from nova/compute/rpcapi.py file https://review.openstack.org/303602 | 10:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: deprecate nova-all https://review.openstack.org/308894 | 10:45 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: before +Wing it, I found a modification in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295938/11 | 10:53 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: are you okay with my comment and me +Wing ? | 10:53 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: ah, good spot, I am fine with that, since they all need rewriting into the new format anyways | 10:54 |
| bauzas | okay, /me wallabying then | 10:55 |
| bauzas | oh :) | 10:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: [api-ref] Removed tenant_id from response parameter https://review.openstack.org/307151 | 11:15 |
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| gmann | sdague: while backporting this to Liberty - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304958/ | 11:22 |
| gmann | sdague: i found bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1572967 | 11:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1572967 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Liberty: POST with Content_Type: text/plain results to 400" [Undecided,New] | 11:22 |
| gmann | sdague: i feel we should backport that also in liberty | 11:23 |
| gmann | sdague: this one - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308925/ | 11:23 |
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| sdague | ah, right, that was when I purged out the xml switch | 11:25 |
| sdague | gmann: so... what I would do is not directly backport | 11:26 |
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| gmann | sdague: which one 415 one? | 11:26 |
| sdague | I think you can get the same results if you just change the exception https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308925/1/nova/api/openstack/wsgi.py@a805 | 11:27 |
| sdague | gmann: both, make a new patch for the same behavior | 11:27 |
| gmann | sdague: yea i did that - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308823/2 | 11:27 |
| sdague | gmann: ok, is that not sufficient? | 11:28 |
| gmann | sdague: let me check, 1 min | 11:28 |
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| gmann | sdague: actually that was not sufficient because we want to catch the exception for invalid content type | 11:30 |
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| gmann | sdague: because get_body there do not raise the one | 11:30 |
| gmann | sdague: but yea, instead of whole, we can just adjust in get_body and get the same results | 11:31 |
| sdague | yeh, that seems better | 11:32 |
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| gmann | sdague: ah but again we have deserialize method look the deserializer for text/plain and fail | 11:33 |
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| gmann | sdague: issue was deserialize method lookup for all kind of deserializer | 11:33 |
| gmann | seems like we end up doing same as backporting whole | 11:34 |
| sdague | I'm a little concerned what that is going to break | 11:34 |
| sdague | this was all pretty hairy to delete iirc | 11:34 |
| gmann | sdague: humm, actually with delete all content-type text/plain pass successfully which is in Mitaka and master | 11:35 |
| gmann | but liberty still 400 for that due to deserialize method | 11:35 |
| sdague | yeh, honestly, maybe we just leave it as a bug a this point for anyone that wants to fix Liberty / Kilo | 11:36 |
| sdague | because it's not straight forward | 11:36 |
| sdague | the content negotiation code that used to be there didn't really cover this case well, and was deleted when we got rid of the xml deserializer | 11:37 |
| sdague | to help clarify the code | 11:37 |
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| gmann | sdague: humm | 11:38 |
| gmann | even m not sure the best way to go :) | 11:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rong Han proposed openstack/nova: Fix resize to same host failed using anti-affinity group https://review.openstack.org/299045 | 11:45 |
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| sdague | gmann: are you saying there is a problem with Mitaka? | 11:50 |
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| gmann | sdague: no, Mitaka is ok. Liberty and Kilo | 11:50 |
| sdague | right, so I'd say leave a bug | 11:50 |
| sdague | which you did, explain the issue | 11:51 |
| gmann | sdague: ok. | 11:51 |
| gmann | sdague: i will leave 415 up for review then - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308823/2 | 11:52 |
| gmann | sdague: which was not direct backport but results to 415 | 11:53 |
| sdague | yeh | 11:53 |
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| gmann | sdague: ok, leaving for home, Thanks :). see you in Austin | 11:54 |
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| sdague | see you there | 11:54 |
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| svenkat | sdague : Can you help to discuss this blueprint : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/sriov-live-migration | 11:59 |
| svenkat | can it be revived and possibly incldued in newton | 12:00 |
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| sarafraj | Good morning | 12:52 |
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| jaypipes | Do we not have the Nova IRC meeting now? | 13:02 |
| sarafraj | I think it's in an hour | 13:02 |
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| jaypipes | sarafraj: gah, daylight savings still messing me up :( | 13:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Split out part of map_cell_and_hosts to return a uuid https://review.openstack.org/302451 | 13:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Add manage command for cell0. https://review.openstack.org/275266 | 13:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Cells: Simple setup/migration command https://review.openstack.org/301273 | 13:13 |
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| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: the config option cleanup series for nova/api (beginning with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258180/) has gotten stale after 5 months of rebasing | 13:16 |
| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: so I'm re-doing in in smaller chunks as you suggested. | 13:17 |
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| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: cool, thank you, bauzas was taking a look at one of those patches this morning, that move stuff is surprizing hard to review, its good to do it in little chunks, as annoying as that is | 13:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Make some build_requests columns nullable https://review.openstack.org/305514 | 13:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Create Instance from BuildRequest if not in a cell https://review.openstack.org/263927 | 13:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Keep BuildRequest db entry around longer https://review.openstack.org/302425 | 13:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Drop fields from BuildRequest object and model https://review.openstack.org/305953 | 13:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Change BuildRequest to contain a serialized instance https://review.openstack.org/298455 | 13:24 |
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| sdague | alaski: you going to update the cross project session on policy in code? | 13:31 |
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| sdague | the etherpad | 13:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: driver.pre_live_migration migrate_data is always an object https://review.openstack.org/308876 | 13:31 |
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| alaski | sdague: yes. I'm planning to work on design summit stuff today | 13:33 |
| sdague | ok, cool | 13:33 |
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| lyarwood_ | j openstack-oslo | 13:45 |
| lyarwood_ | ah today-- | 13:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Support for both microversion headers https://review.openstack.org/300077 | 13:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Support for both microversion headers https://review.openstack.org/300077 | 13:46 |
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| cdent | johnthetubaguy: I made a blueprint for that microversions stuff and hooked the relevant reviews up to it: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/modern-microversions | 13:49 |
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| dansmith | lyarwood_: I found your issue in the actual nova patch and commented | 13:53 |
| bauzas | nova meeting in 5, right ? | 13:54 |
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| dansmith | aww, really? | 13:55 |
| lyarwood_ | dansmith: thanks, I had this in the previous changeset, danpb suggested hasattr and here we are. | 13:55 |
| dansmith | lyarwood_: danpb is wrong :) | 13:55 |
| lyarwood_ | dansmith: hehe indeed, there's a first time for everything | 13:55 |
| dansmith | lyarwood_: I suspect he has been wrong before, but yeah :) | 13:56 |
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| cdent | mriedem: can you, as the Nova PTL, set a good example on how to use email? :P | 13:56 |
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| mriedem | cdent: am i abusing email? | 13:58 |
| cdent | totes. you're a non-trimmer | 13:58 |
| edleafe | cdent: don't get started :) | 13:58 |
| mriedem | cdent: tough titties | 13:59 |
| cdent | \o/ | 13:59 |
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| cdent | edleafe: I am unrepentant pot stirrer | 13:59 |
| mriedem | thunderbird collapses stuff for me so it's not a problem | 13:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Sharat Sharma proposed openstack/nova: [api-ref] Removed tenant_id from response parameter https://review.openstack.org/307151 | 13:59 |
| mriedem | nova meeting starting | 13:59 |
| cdent | mriedem: won't please someone think of the archive | 14:00 |
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| sdague | cdent: on that front, do you know you use a non utf8 compatible charset in your email? | 14:10 |
| cdent | sdague: some of the time | 14:11 |
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| cdent | it depends on various inputs | 14:11 |
| dansmith | it's fairly ugly | 14:11 |
| sdague | charset=GB2312 | 14:12 |
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| * cdent makes it utf8 all the time | 14:13 | |
| dansmith | lyarwood_: I commented on the older ps on danpb's comment too | 14:13 |
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| lyarwood_ | dansmith: cheers | 14:14 |
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| cdent | sdague, dansmith: should be fixed now, thanks for letting me know | 14:15 |
| cdent | (that it was impacting your life) | 14:16 |
| sdague | cdent: it wasn't a huge deal, but thunderbird gets confused on it and means my normal fonts don't apply | 14:16 |
| sdague | so your emails always look different | 14:16 |
| sdague | I just wrote it off to "email is only so compatible" | 14:16 |
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| cdent | I think it came down to the fact that my emails will interpret the the email it is responding to | 14:17 |
| cdent | I've turned that off | 14:17 |
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| cdent | it's now utf-8 all the tiem | 14:17 |
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| cdent | hrmm, it _might_ be fixed | 14:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Make 'debug' option reconfigurable in Nova https://review.openstack.org/280851 | 14:20 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: is this the PWG session you were talking about? https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/9477 | 14:27 |
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| cdent | i've sent you a test message sdague, if you could confirm deny that would be marvelous | 14:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: thats the one | 14:28 |
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| mriedem | sdague: can you share the thunderbird setting that would make my replies not ruin everyone's life? | 14:28 |
| paul-carlton1 | mriedem, do I need a spec for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/live-migrate-rescued-instances? | 14:28 |
| sdague | mriedem: there is no setting, I just snip manually | 14:28 |
| sdague | or if you highlight a block of text and hit reply, it will only keep the highlighted part | 14:28 |
| edleafe | mriedem: if you hilight the relevant part of the email you're replying to, TB will only quote that | 14:29 |
| dulek | dansmith: Hi, can you point me where o.vo version manifests are? | 14:29 |
| edleafe | sdague: jinx | 14:29 |
| dulek | dansmith: Related to this commit: https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/93a3017999a6f71e94c86f29c83395e9d220250c | 14:29 |
| sdague | cdent: yep, looks good | 14:29 |
| cdent | thanks sdague | 14:29 |
| sdague | the table flip is still good as well | 14:29 |
| cdent | \o/ | 14:29 |
| mriedem | sdague: edleafe: ok i don't see that happening, but oh well | 14:30 |
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| sdague | cdent: watch out, or he'll start replying with Lotus Notes | 14:31 |
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| sdague | then you'll really want to hide | 14:31 |
| mriedem | just to cdent's stuff | 14:31 |
| mriedem | out of spite | 14:31 |
| cdent | spite++ | 14:31 |
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| mriedem | paul-carlton1: you should ask danpb | 14:32 |
| cdent | to be totally fair: a) it doesn't matter _that_ much, b) but I do often miss thing while scrolling through the massive quotes (did this person actually add anything), c) mriedem you are by no means even close to the worst offender | 14:32 |
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| cdent | clearly everyone should use pine or mutt | 14:32 |
| paul-carlton1 | thanks will do | 14:33 |
| mriedem | cdent: i've already built my resentment against you now for this | 14:33 |
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| cdent | mriedem: not everyone can love me, it's good of you to take on the burden | 14:33 |
| edleafe | mriedem: account settings; Composition & Addressing: check the Automaticall quote option | 14:34 |
| edleafe | cdent: and nothing but curl for websites | 14:35 |
| cdent | with allowance for wget in a pinch | 14:35 |
| mriedem | edleafe: yeah, have that, but had selected 'start my reply below the quote' rather than 'select the quote', i'll change and see how it goes | 14:35 |
| cdent | but only in very special circumstances | 14:35 |
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| dansmith | dulek: sorry was in the meeting.. do you want to go talk about this in the cinder channel and how it does (or doesn't) apply to you? | 14:41 |
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| dulek | dansmith: We're already starting to discuss that on #openstack-cinder | 14:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Config options: Centralize netconf options https://review.openstack.org/294312 | 14:53 |
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| zioproto | mriedem: are you around ? | 15:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bob Ball proposed openstack/nova: xenapi: rename dest_check_data to migrate_data https://review.openstack.org/293537 | 15:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Bob Ball proposed openstack/nova: xenapi: refactor check_can_live_migrate_destination https://review.openstack.org/293553 | 15:12 |
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| mriedem | zioproto: yes | 15:15 |
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| dansmith | alaski: melwitt: so on that mq switching one, we probably need to add that switching to nova-network as well right? | 15:21 |
| dansmith | er, network/rpcapi I mean | 15:21 |
| dansmith | unless we're going to say you can't run n-net (now, or yet) | 15:22 |
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| efried | rpodolyaka, quick question: During 'rebuild', the 'destroy' op is called without specifying the destroy_disks kwarg. Near as I can tell, the default of that kwarg is True. I.e. the intent of rebuild is to destroy ephemeral disks of the original VM. True? | 15:31 |
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| alaski | dansmith: yes | 15:32 |
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| alaski | could be done in a followup I think | 15:32 |
| dansmith | alaski: yeah, I know this doesn't really get us anything yet anyway, just thinking | 15:32 |
| dansmith | alaski: and probably things like console, etc | 15:32 |
| rpodolyaka | efried: yes, I think so. you start from scratch with the same image or another one | 15:32 |
| dansmith | alaski: also, this kinda implies that the global conductor will do the initial build of an instance and then call to the cell, but that's not what we want, right? | 15:33 |
| alaski | dansmith: yeah, anything that compute/api talks to over rpc | 15:33 |
| efried | rpodolyaka, thanks. | 15:33 |
| alaski | dansmith: why not? that's what we had talked about I thought | 15:33 |
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| rpodolyaka | efried: np! | 15:34 |
| dansmith | alaski: you do want the global conductor to do it? | 15:34 |
| dansmith | alaski: actually, I guess the conductor has to ask the scheduler for help, so maybe that makes sense | 15:35 |
| alaski | I'm not sure where else it would happen | 15:35 |
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| alaski | yeah | 15:35 |
| dansmith | alaski: I'm not sure I was part of any discussion on it, and had just assumed, but yeah I think that makes sense | 15:35 |
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| alaski | okay, cool | 15:35 |
| dansmith | alaski: just thinking that generally we want to push cell things down to the cell as quick as possible, but given the scheduling decision, that's fine I think | 15:35 |
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| alaski | yeah. most things will be compute/api->cell. only boot is really different | 15:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova: Permit Live Migration of Rescued Instances https://review.openstack.org/308198 | 15:36 |
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| dansmith | alaski: yep, makes sense | 15:37 |
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| tdurakov | paul-carlton1: hey, are you around? | 15:40 |
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| melwitt | dansmith, alaski: for nova-network I had thought that there's one switch from api->cell and then when cell calls nova-network no switch is needed because it would be local from its perspective. am I off on that? | 15:49 |
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| dansmith | melwitt: api calls to n-net in places | 15:49 |
| dansmith | melwitt: from compute to network it should be fine | 15:49 |
| melwitt | dangit | 15:49 |
| dansmith | there's also further complication in that api also hits the db directly for some things | 15:49 |
| dansmith | so those places will need to hit the cell db I think | 15:50 |
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| melwitt | dansmith: okay. I will add stuff to n-net while I'm at it, I actually thought about n-net but thought it would be local because compute calling it. but I was tunnel visioned on nova boot | 15:50 |
| dansmith | which might be handled already by the db connection switching I guess, I'm not sure | 15:50 |
| dansmith | melwitt: well, definitely separate patch | 15:50 |
| melwitt | yeah, should be. I would think | 15:50 |
| melwitt | dansmith: okay | 15:51 |
| alaski | wait a sec. nova-net is going to be "global" right? | 15:51 |
| dansmith | wat? | 15:51 |
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| melwitt | I didn't think so. I thought n-net ran per cell, no? | 15:51 |
| alaski | well, we're not partitioning the network are we? | 15:52 |
| dansmith | I thought we were for the n-net case | 15:52 |
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| dansmith | alaski: otherwise we need to move all the network tables to api as well, floating ips, fixed ips, vifs, etc | 15:53 |
| dansmith | and the compute in the cell will have to make lots of calls back to the api cell | 15:53 |
| dansmith | or whatever we call it | 15:53 |
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| melwitt | I wasn't think of partitioning per se but being how we have things planned for now of n-net data in the cell db. and I thought in cells v1 n-net ran per cell but I don't know too much about it | 15:54 |
| dansmith | I surely thought it did as well | 15:54 |
| alaski | melwitt: it does run per cell in v1, but that's mostly because scale required it. it could be run globally and work too | 15:54 |
| alaski | dansmith: were you thinking to duplicate data in each cell? If a floating ip is created it's created in all cells? | 15:55 |
| dansmith | no, but I guess your point is we'd have to poll all the cells to construct a full list of available things like that? | 15:56 |
| melwitt | hm, okay. for a global n-net I thought we'd need to move the ips and stuff to the api db like dansmith said | 15:56 |
| alaski | melwitt: we would | 15:56 |
| dansmith | melwitt: yeah, I _so_ don't want to do that | 15:56 |
| dansmith | especially because that's like a lot of IP records for a 10./8 | 15:56 |
| melwitt | okay, I just totally missed that then. it's not in our db split doc or any notes I saw | 15:56 |
| dansmith | melwitt: alaski: perhaps we should do this high bw, either now or next week | 15:57 |
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| alaski | dansmith: I think so | 15:57 |
| dansmith | heh, alaski is like "I think so, since you stupid people need so much help" | 15:57 |
| alaski | my concern is we're looking at making this data replicate in each cell. but for allocations there's no central authority | 15:57 |
| melwitt | lol. yeah. sorry alaski | 15:57 |
| alaski | dansmith: heh, not at all. I just want to see your frustration with me visible on your face | 15:58 |
| dansmith | hah | 15:58 |
| dansmith | alaski: you want now, or just punt to next week? | 15:58 |
| alaski | I can do now | 15:59 |
| dansmith | I don't want to derail other convos next week, but if this is worthy of the group... | 15:59 |
| dansmith | okay, whichever is fine wth me | 15:59 |
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| alaski | well, I'd like to go to the group with more of an answer than a question. and then leave it open for modification | 15:59 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: handle reserved pages size https://review.openstack.org/292500 | 15:59 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: virt: reserved number of mempages on compute host https://review.openstack.org/292499 | 15:59 |
| dansmith | alaski: sounds reasonable | 15:59 |
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| pkholkin | johnthetubaguy: dansmith: mriedem: Good day guys! I want to ask you to look at my spec that was approved before https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296429/, thanks in advance! | 16:00 |
| dansmith | alaski: melwitt https://hangouts.google.com/call/gpctrfaj5bhbnjim3rxr7ijrxme | 16:00 |
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| pkholkin | tdurakov didn't start working on it in previous cycle, so I will continue working on it | 16:00 |
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| pkholkin | I have already code concept to it (link to the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304180/) | 16:01 |
| blazejK | hi guys ! | 16:01 |
| blazejK | can I use q35 machine type in nova ? | 16:01 |
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| pkholkin | I'm working on tests now | 16:01 |
| mriedem | pkholkin: was the spec approved in mitaka? | 16:01 |
| pkholkin | feel free to ask any questions | 16:01 |
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| pkholkin | mriedem: yes, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183057/ | 16:02 |
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| oomichi | sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308622/ is PoC for separation of parameters.yaml for each API | 16:08 |
| oomichi | sdague: the yaml is generated from json-schema and is used as the separated parameters.yaml | 16:09 |
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| mriedem | sdague: nice, thanks https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-api | 16:19 |
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| rlrossit | melwitt: if you don't want to pay/arrange that super shuttle thing, apparently austin metro has a bus that goes airport -> downtown http://www.capmetro.org/airport/ | 16:21 |
| melwitt | rlrossit: that's kinda what I was leaning toward. the distance is too far so I thought it might not be too bad | 16:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova-specs: nova-api hypervisor.cpu_info change from string to json object https://review.openstack.org/296429 | 16:22 |
| melwitt | rlrossit: distance *isn't* too far I mean | 16:22 |
| pkholkin | mriedem: thanks for review! I've updated the spec-patch | 16:22 |
| mriedem | jroll: i started filling out the nova/ironic session etherpad a bit https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-ironic | 16:22 |
| mriedem | jroll: feel free to add to that | 16:22 |
| rlrossit | melwitt: yeah my hotel is right next to one of the stops, so I'd probably be dumb to ignore the bus | 16:23 |
| rlrossit | plus they have an app, because that's all the rage these days | 16:23 |
| mriedem | rlrossit: you'e at the radisson right? | 16:23 |
| mriedem | i need to ask at least 10 times | 16:23 |
| rlrossit | indeed | 16:23 |
| mriedem | ok | 16:23 |
| rlrossit | you want me to hold your hand when you get off the plane mriedem? | 16:23 |
| mriedem | rlrossit: that would be nice yes | 16:24 |
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| rlrossit | mriedem: I'll make a bunch of phone calls when I get home tonight to figure out if my hotels have shuttles, and if so, to where | 16:25 |
| rlrossit | I'll fill you in if the radisson has any secrets | 16:25 |
| mriedem | for any of the openstack events they have shuttles | 16:26 |
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| rlrossit | that's not the airport though | 16:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Sujitha proposed openstack/nova: Config options: Centralize servicegroup options https://review.openstack.org/303074 | 16:26 |
| mriedem | capmetro for the aiport | 16:26 |
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| rlrossit | well yeah, Friday night I swap hotels, so I need to see if I can get a shuttle to my new hotel | 16:26 |
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| jroll | mriedem: cool, on my list for today | 16:29 |
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| jroll | mriedem: fwiw, there's an ironic session on consoles first thing wednesday, so hopefully there won't be too much to cover there | 16:30 |
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| mriedem | jroll: good, maybe just a recap in the nova session then | 16:31 |
| jroll | yep | 16:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Migrate LVM code to using os-brick https://review.openstack.org/308058 | 16:32 |
| jroll | mriedem: I'd be interested in chatting about "what does nova need from us" as well | 16:33 |
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| mriedem | what does nova need from ironic? i'm not sure. | 16:33 |
| edleafe | melwitt: keep in mind that Austin is one of those cities that distance by mileage is irrelevant. Traffic dictates distance | 16:34 |
| mriedem | to get a haircut? bunch of hippies over there. | 16:34 |
| sneti | johnthetubaguy, I addressed your comments for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/303074/. But didn't get what this means "with a TODO to move to stevedore.". please let me know.. | 16:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Migrate LVM code to using os-brick https://review.openstack.org/308058 | 16:35 |
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| pkholkin | mriedem: johnthetubaguy: I also want to say that I add my 'Keypairs pagination support' spec to nova-summit-unconference etherpad for possible discussions | 16:40 |
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| pkholkin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239663/ | 16:40 |
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| mriedem | pkholkin: does that really need an unconference session? paging in the api is pretty standard right? | 16:41 |
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| pkholkin | I don't set it to some exact time, I can do that of needed | 16:41 |
| mriedem | seems like a friday meetup topic to me | 16:41 |
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| pkholkin | mriedem: I don't know, I've just added not to forget | 16:41 |
| pkholkin | that't upon you :) | 16:41 |
| mriedem | blarg | 16:42 |
| mriedem | pkholkin: let's do that on friday | 16:42 |
| mriedem | unconference in my mind is usually more about vendor features | 16:42 |
| pkholkin | mriedem: okay, this is ok for me! | 16:42 |
| mriedem | pkholkin: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-neutron-unplugged-track | 16:42 |
| mriedem | is the friday etherpad | 16:42 |
| mriedem | wait that's neutron | 16:42 |
| mriedem | i need to create an etherpad | 16:43 |
| pkholkin | mriedem: yes, neutron | 16:43 |
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| mriedem | pkholkin: ok, throw it in here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-meetup and i'll sort things later | 16:44 |
| pkholkin | mriedem: okay, I will move it from those to this one | 16:44 |
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| SpamapS | jaypipes: hey, when you're around.. I want to make sure we connect next week on the scheduler stuff you've been poking at | 16:54 |
| jaypipes | SpamapS: but of course, sir. | 16:54 |
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| mtecer | Hey guys, I am working on configuring designate as external dns to neutron following this: http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/networking-guide/adv-config-dns.html. I ran into this error: http://pastebin.com/Scid6rZV. Any ideas ? | 16:55 |
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| jaypipes | mtecer: please see /topic :) Best to ask over on #openstack-neutron and/or post to openstack@ mailing list | 16:58 |
| mtecer | jaypipes: my bad. wrong channel :) | 16:58 |
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| jaypipes | mtecer: no worries :) | 16:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: deprecate nova-all https://review.openstack.org/308894 | 17:08 |
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| sdague | mriedem: ^^ | 17:08 |
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| mriedem | kashyap: mtreinish: check it out, re: yesterday and that test_delete_saving_image test with the big trace in nova | 17:08 |
| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L3011-L3019 | 17:08 |
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| mriedem | snapshot in the compute manager handles InstanceNotFound, | 17:08 |
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| mriedem | so the libvirt driver should probably handle when the suspended domain is deleted between the time it's suspended and resumed | 17:09 |
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| mriedem | sdague: thanks, just waiting for the releasenotes job to finish on that one | 17:20 |
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| sdague | yeh, I actually did the tox run locally this time | 17:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Remove unused base_options param from _get_image_defined_bdms https://review.openstack.org/309124 | 17:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: deprecate nova-all https://review.openstack.org/308894 | 17:49 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: this blueprint is re-approved now so please drop the -2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141485/ | 18:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: Prevent nova-api from dying if enabled_apis is wrong https://review.openstack.org/308264 | 18:15 |
| sdague | mriedem: rebased on top of nova-all one | 18:15 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/309143 | 18:15 |
| sdague | we probably want to backport 308264 if we decide to land it | 18:15 |
| mriedem | yeah | 18:17 |
| mriedem | i wanted to test that out first | 18:17 |
| sdague | mriedem: coolio, fine with that | 18:17 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: hey, so is the Nova midcycle week of June 18th in Portland? | 18:18 |
| mriedem | july 18th | 18:18 |
| mriedem | i emailed intel this week about details, haven't heard back yet | 18:19 |
| mriedem | july 19-21 | 18:19 |
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| mriedem | in hillsboro | 18:19 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: ah, yes, sorry, I meant july. thx for clarifying | 18:19 |
| mriedem | i'll update that ML thread since we agreed on the dates and location in a nova meeting but i never posted back to the ML | 18:19 |
| mriedem | i'm also going to top post on that thread for cdent | 18:20 |
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| dims_ | lol mriedem | 18:21 |
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| auggy | hopefully it won't be crazy hot here this summer | 18:22 |
| auggy | (pdx/hillsboro) | 18:22 |
| auggy | "crazy hot" meaning like 90 degrees F ;D | 18:22 |
| jcook | This a known issue with python-novaclient 4.0.0: ERROR (ImportError): No module named openstack.common ? | 18:22 |
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| jcook | Not an issue with 3.3.1 (install from pip not source) | 18:23 |
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| mriedem | The openstack.common code was removed from novaclient in 4.0.0 | 18:23 |
| mriedem | pyc? | 18:23 |
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| mriedem | jcook: do you have your own extensions? | 18:24 |
| jcook | I just installed python-novaclient from pip in a new VM and typed nova | 18:24 |
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| jcook | hmm, think you are on to something, I created a new virtualenv and ONLY installed python-novaclient and it works | 18:26 |
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| JayF | jcook: I bet rackspace-novaclient got stuff it needed fully deprecated out | 18:26 |
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| JayF | jcook: the .0.0 is highly suspicious, and I know when 3.0.0 hit it started throwing more dep warnings and I couldn't get the attention of anyone (downstream) to fix it | 18:27 |
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| jcook | yeah, let me install that in venv and see if it blows up | 18:27 |
| jcook | I got it to work with rackspace-auth-openstack, so it's something else in the venv | 18:28 |
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| tojuvone | sdague: Thanks for the maintenance comments. Also realized it will grow as a bigger thing and would naturally be external. | 18:30 |
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| tojuvone | sdague: So on monday more the requirements and how that will go. | 18:32 |
| sdague | tojuvone: yeh, I think the simple addition of a reason field that is big enough for a URL probably enables you to do than entire opnfv set of use cases via an external tool | 18:32 |
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| sdague | tojuvone: cool. I was planning on attending the session, see you there | 18:33 |
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| tojuvone | sdague: Thanks, can continue there :) | 18:34 |
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| jcook | found the culprit, some extension I don't need and not sure how I got via my ansible. Thanks! | 18:34 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: sweet, apparently we never had a unit test for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309110/1/nova/tests/unit/compute/test_compute_utils.py in kilo | 18:44 |
| mriedem | for the change there that is | 18:44 |
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| dansmith | ah | 18:45 |
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| mriedem | i suppose to do the right thing i'd have to add it... | 18:46 |
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| dansmith | actually, I'm not sure what you mean... the master diff on that file looks the same to me | 18:47 |
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| mriedem | between liberty and kilo? | 18:48 |
| mriedem | see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212374/ in liberty | 18:48 |
| dansmith | oh kilo | 18:48 |
| mriedem | that moved those utilities out of compute.api and into compute.utils and added tests | 18:48 |
| mriedem | yeah | 18:48 |
| dansmith | gotcha | 18:48 |
| dansmith | sorry | 18:48 |
| mriedem | i have the mitka and liberty backports up | 18:48 |
| mriedem | so, to not be a jerk ill have to add the test case in kilo even though it was never there, but thats no biggy | 18:49 |
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| mriedem | jcook: i knew it! | 18:49 |
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| kashyap | mriedem: Just back after being away whole day, and reading the scroll, good to know that yesterday's issue turned out to be a red herring | 18:54 |
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| tbachman | p!spy | 18:55 |
| melwitt | mriedem: what did you mean yesterday when you said about the ceph plugin src job and the fact that the existing src job is disabled for kilo? | 18:58 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: I'll just make the new plugin based src job disabled for kilo too, right? | 18:58 |
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| mriedem | let me grab the link | 19:00 |
| melwitt | mriedem: this is my patch, I had removed the kilo exclusion https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308686/ | 19:01 |
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| melwitt | because I think I misunderstood you | 19:01 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: i think we exlude the ceph plugin src job from glance_store on stable/kilo | 19:23 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: yeah, we do. in the patch I linked, I had removed that exclusion because I think I misunderstood what you said yesterday | 19:24 |
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| mriedem | i commented | 19:25 |
| melwitt | thanks | 19:25 |
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| cfriesen | can anyone tell me why this is failing? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306647/1 It claims I'm missing sections but as far as I can tell they're there. | 19:29 |
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| melwitt | cfriesen: the only thing I notice is the ='s around the the title are longer than the title. the error in the job "Extra sections: [u'Improve Scheduler Error Reporting']" made me suspect something to do with that | 19:34 |
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| melwitt | I don't know how that could be related but that's my wild guess | 19:36 |
| mriedem | melwitt: looks good to me, the ceph plugin src job | 19:39 |
| _gryf | melwitt, i don't think so. | 19:39 |
| mriedem | melwitt: make a mental note that i asked about stable branches for devstack-plugin-ceph so that when that bites us in 6-12 months i can say i asked :) | 19:39 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: haha, okay. yeah I just checked and there are no stable branches for the plugin so at least for now it's not an option | 19:41 |
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| _gryf | cfriesen, the checker complains about missing Assignee(s) and Work items subsections for Implementation is missing, which is not true, since structure of nodes seems fine | 19:50 |
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| sdague | what's the priority review etherpad link again. I apparently have so many etherpads in my chrome history it's no longer just auto completing for me | 20:15 |
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| mriedem | sdague: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-priorities-tracking | 20:16 |
| mriedem | so i've got a policy question | 20:17 |
| mriedem | changes like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223382/ have gotten in as bug fixes historically | 20:17 |
| mriedem | technically these are api changes since they allow you to start doing a new thing | 20:17 |
| mriedem | and we have no tempest testing for those cases | 20:17 |
| mriedem | along that note, i was holding up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295865/ asking that they add a tempest test for the new states, and the guy has a valid argument that we let other api changes like this in w/o tempest tests, so why can't he | 20:18 |
| mriedem | sdague: alaski: dansmith: ^ | 20:18 |
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| sdague | personally, I don't think it's really viable to put together a tempest test for every state transition, unless we'd like a compute api runtime of about 6 hours. We should be doing representative tests in tempest, and full coverage in functional (with fake virt) | 20:20 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: I generally don't care for arguments that "someone else didn't have to write a test", but it also seems like something we could do internally fairly easly | 20:20 |
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| mriedem | my concern was more around the actual hypervisors having issues with operations like snapshot on guests in a certain state | 20:21 |
| mriedem | so that's why tempest rather than fake virt | 20:21 |
| alaski | I approved that one without additional tests because the action is a volume snapshot which is really somewhat unaffected by the instance state there. so unit testing of the allowed state seemed enough for me | 20:21 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: yeah, that's a fair point for anything involving snapshot | 20:22 |
| sdague | mriedem: hmmm, yeh maybe | 20:22 |
| dansmith | and we would get a read from a bunch of third party systems | 20:22 |
| alaski | the call doesn't get down to the hypervisor in this case, except to attempt a quiesce | 20:22 |
| mriedem | i'm particularly worried about snapshot b/c of the crazy set of conditionals on the libvirt driver's snapshot method | 20:23 |
| mriedem | alaski: yeah, noticing that too now | 20:23 |
| dansmith | but, | 20:23 |
| dansmith | we need the instance to be running to quiesce | 20:23 |
| alaski | if it did work with the hypervisor I would have had the same concern | 20:23 |
| dansmith | and if the thing is paused, | 20:23 |
| dansmith | it could very well have data in mid-flight I think, and thus be not clean | 20:24 |
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| dansmith | so I'm not even sure this makes sense tbh | 20:24 |
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| sdague | dansmith: but you can't be in the block if nova thinks the compute is paused | 20:24 |
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| alaski | this was suspend, which I thought would be consistent | 20:24 |
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| sdague | yeh, suspend seems fine | 20:25 |
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| dansmith | I guess this is allowed for not bfv | 20:25 |
| dansmith | this is pause/suspend | 20:25 |
| dansmith | sdague: can't be in which block? | 20:25 |
| sdague | @check_instance_state(vm_state=[vm_states.ACTIVE, vm_states.STOPPED, | 20:25 |
| sdague | vm_states.SUSPENDED]) | 20:25 |
| mriedem | if instance.vm_state == vm_states.ACTIVE: | 20:25 |
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| mriedem | then quiesce | 20:26 |
| alaski | dansmith: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223382/13/nova/compute/api.py is the one that got approved | 20:26 |
| sdague | oh, I didn't look at the second patch | 20:26 |
| mriedem | ok, so this might also have to do with me thinking that we cast to compute to snapshot on the hypervisor in both volume-backed and non-volume-backed scenarios, but i guess we only do that for non-volume-backed snapshot | 20:26 |
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| alaski | but I do agree that "patch A didn't need tests so I don't" isn't a valid argument | 20:26 |
| sdague | yeh, I agree paused might be dangerous here | 20:27 |
| dansmith | just to be clear, I'm talking about this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295865/8, which is saying that we should be able to live snapshot a volume without quiescing if it's paused | 20:27 |
| dansmith | and I'm not sure I agree that that's okay | 20:27 |
| sdague | dansmith: ok, I was looking at the merged patch | 20:27 |
| sdague | I didn't see that one | 20:27 |
| dansmith | that's the one mriedem is asking about, AFAIK | 20:28 |
| melwitt | alaski: on that patch I had written a comment on why I thought it seemed fine, a long time ago | 20:28 |
| alaski | ahh, even better | 20:28 |
| sdague | dansmith: right, I'm up to speed now, I agree that might be a fine | 20:28 |
| sdague | dansmith: I mean, I agree with you, this might be an issue | 20:29 |
| melwitt | but now I realize we're talking about not the merged one | 20:29 |
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| dansmith | the author says paused is allowed for non-bfv cases, which if true, is equally suspect I think | 20:29 |
| sdague | why do we expose pause over the API anyway? Do people wrongly believe it's a queiece? | 20:30 |
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| dansmith | because we always have, AFAIK | 20:30 |
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| sdague | right, I was just curious if anyone knew real use cases for it, other than "it's a think libvirt can do" | 20:31 |
| mriedem | just noticed the BFV comment again, yeah, how is that related at all? | 20:31 |
| dansmith | it's closer to quiesce than "snapshot my volume while I'm running", but I don't know what the real use case is | 20:31 |
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| dansmith | sdague: wouldn't surprise me at all if someone used it for a hot standby sort of thing or something | 20:32 |
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| efried | rpodolyaka, if you have a few minutes, I'd like to discuss an idea in nova rebuild. | 20:33 |
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| rpodolyaka | efried: actually, I haven't touched that code in a while... what idea do you have in mind? | 20:40 |
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| efried | rpodolyaka: The basic flow is: | 20:40 |
| efried | power off the VM | 20:40 |
| efried | destroy the VM | 20:40 |
| efried | spawn a new incarnation of the VM. | 20:40 |
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| efried | rpodolyaka: What I noticed is that the power_off is using clean_shutdown=True | 20:42 |
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| efried | The idea was this: IF there are no volumes, is there a good reason to use clean_shutdown=True? | 20:43 |
| efried | rpodolyaka: If not, the idea was extending the semantic of clean_shutdown such that it can be passed in to the driver's power_off in some incarnation. | 20:45 |
| efried | Specifically so that the driver can do the shutdown forcefully/immediately - which would be faster, thereby making the whole rebuild op faster. | 20:46 |
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| rpodolyaka | efried: what about workloads in the VM? | 20:46 |
| rpodolyaka | I'd rather we default to "clean" shutdown | 20:47 |
| efried | We're destroying the VM, neh? | 20:47 |
| rpodolyaka | but probably allow to do it forcefully | 20:47 |
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| rpodolyaka | well, maybe you have in-flight requests you wanted to finish processing or something like that | 20:47 |
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| efried | Seems like a bad idea to invoke a rebuild in that case... but I see your point. | 20:48 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223382/ you also said "In the case of snapshot of volume-backed, we won't have a managedSave for PAUSED, so PAUSED shouldn't be allowed." | 20:48 |
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| mriedem | but i guess we never get down to the virt driver in the volume-backed case | 20:49 |
| mriedem | oh maybe that's your point | 20:49 |
| mriedem | because for non-volume backed the libvirt driver's snapshot method handles the PAUSED scenario | 20:50 |
| melwitt | I think (it was a long time ago) I was explaining why suspend is okay but paused isn't | 20:50 |
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| melwitt | paused would be okay for non-volume-backed snapshot | 20:50 |
| mriedem | yeah https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L1759 | 20:50 |
| mriedem | because of that ^ | 20:51 |
| mriedem | it suspends the guest first | 20:51 |
| melwitt | right | 20:51 |
| efried | rpodolyaka, I guess it depends what people expect out of rebuild. I'm sort of guessing they don't expect the origin VM to be relied upon to do anything once the rebuild is issued. | 20:51 |
| mriedem | and afterward https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L1770 | 20:51 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: want to comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295865/ > | 20:52 |
| mriedem | ? | 20:52 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: sure. the code looks like it's been refactored since what I said back then, that is, the managedSave isn't as obvious for suspend vs paused so I'll look through it more first | 20:55 |
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| mriedem | yeah, i was just all over that method yesterday, it is confusing | 20:56 |
| mriedem | a lot of that stuff was refactored into the nova/virt/libvirt/guest module now | 20:56 |
| rpodolyaka | efried: agreed. But I'd probably want rebuild to use "clean" shutdown to be consistent with other actions like power off / rescue or resize | 20:56 |
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| rpodolyaka | efried: I believe those currently default to "clean" shutdown | 20:56 |
| melwitt | yeah, I figured "guest.save_memory_state()" | 20:56 |
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| efried | rpodolyaka: Definitely agree regular power_off should be clean by default. Rescue and resize reuse the original boot disk, don't they? | 20:59 |
| efried | So for ephemeral-only, it makes sense to shut down cleanly, to make sure buffers are flushed. But if the disk is being destroyed - as it is for rebuild - there's no need to worry about disk corruption. | 20:59 |
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| rpodolyaka | efried: I think rescue allows you to boot with another image | 21:01 |
| rpodolyaka | yeah, I agree, that we don't worry about the disk state | 21:02 |
| efried | So I was just looking for a way to shorten that for rebuild. | 21:02 |
| rpodolyaka | still, don't you think it might be good to notify the software you run in the VMs that it's going to be shut down soon? | 21:02 |
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| rpodolyaka | so that you don't have to stop it in some other way before doing a rebuild | 21:04 |
| rpodolyaka | ++ for adding an option to stop the VM forcefully on rebuild, though | 21:04 |
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| rpodolyaka | just don't think it should be a default | 21:05 |
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| rpodolyaka | or maybe it's just me who likes the idea of https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/instances/preemptible :P | 21:09 |
| rpodolyaka | efried: sorry, gotta go :( | 21:09 |
| efried | rpodolyaka, thanks for the talk. | 21:10 |
| rpodolyaka | np | 21:10 |
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| cfriesen | rpodolyaka: for just notifications, you get that now sort of with the clean shutdown attempt. For what it's worth, we've added a mechanism to allow a guest to indicate that it really would rather not shut down right now. (which can be overridden of course) | 21:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Move config options from nova/api directory (1) https://review.openstack.org/309192 | 21:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the API options (1) https://review.openstack.org/309193 | 21:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Move config options from nova/api directory (2) https://review.openstack.org/309194 | 21:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the API options (2) https://review.openstack.org/309195 | 21:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Move config options from nova/api directory (3) https://review.openstack.org/309196 | 21:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the API options (3) https://review.openstack.org/309197 | 21:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Move config options from nova/api directory (4) https://review.openstack.org/309198 | 21:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the API options (4) https://review.openstack.org/309199 | 21:48 |
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| mriedem | mtreinish: dansmith: that tempest test is passing now with all of the backports https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307518/ | 21:50 |
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| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: ^^ when you get back on, here's the reworked API config option stuff | 21:50 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: tres bon | 21:51 |
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| mriedem | hey, speak 'merican | 21:51 |
| * dansmith thinks for a minute | 21:51 | |
| mriedem | i'm getting ready for texas | 21:51 |
| mriedem | gettin' red for tejas | 21:51 |
| mriedem | y'all | 21:51 |
| dansmith | fookin' a | 21:51 |
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| mriedem | "3 whoppers for $1 for a limited time only!" | 21:52 |
| mriedem | ^ 'merican | 21:52 |
| dansmith | heh | 21:52 |
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| dansmith | mmmm, whoppers | 21:52 |
| dansmith | I'm hungry now | 21:52 |
| mriedem | the burger, not the malted milk ball candy | 21:52 |
| dansmith | yeah, three for $1 would be spendy otherwise | 21:52 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: +2 across the board | 21:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/nova: Implement setup_networks_on_host for Neutron networks https://review.openstack.org/275073 | 21:54 |
| mriedem | omfg | 21:55 |
| mriedem | mtreinish: wreckless | 21:55 |
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| mriedem | wow, reckless | 21:55 |
| mriedem | time to leave | 21:55 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: heh, not really. I think the stable review policy says I can +A all your backports since your in stable-maint core, that would have been reckless :) | 21:56 |
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| mriedem | lbeliveau: moshele: how many mellanox ci's are running against nova today? just sriov with direct or also macvtap now? | 23:47 |
| mriedem | i think macvtap was relatively new for nova | 23:47 |
| mriedem | just looking at | 23:47 |
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| mriedem | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems/Mellanox_CI | 23:47 |
| moshele | mriedem: mellanox ci run 2 jobs one with direct port and one with macvtap port, there is also in neutron macvtap agent which is something else not related to SR-IOV and this is new | 23:50 |
| mriedem | moshele: ok, i'm just trying to gather info on what is tested/covered today for https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-performance-vms | 23:50 |
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| mriedem | moshele: and looks like the mellanox ci is down? | 23:52 |
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| moshele | mriedem: let me check on sec | 23:53 |
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| moshele | mriedem: we are doing some reorganization of physical servers during the summit because of the low activity in the community | 23:58 |
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| mriedem | ok. i have links to logs for the direct sriov job, i haven't seen one of the macvtap mellanox jobs run on a nova change yet | 23:58 |
| mriedem | or know what the name of the job is | 23:58 |
| moshele | mriedem: http://144.76.193.39/ci-artifacts/13/307113/1/check-nova/Nova-MACVTAP-ML2-Sriov/5e31a11/testr_results.html.gz | 23:59 |
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