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| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Fix database poison warnings, part 3 https://review.openstack.org/306887 | 01:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Fix database poison warnings, part 2 https://review.openstack.org/306676 | 01:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox used in test_server_start_stop https://review.openstack.org/306232 | 03:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: config options: conductor live migrate options https://review.openstack.org/306771 | 03:24 |
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| ygl | Hi All | 04:23 |
| ygl | i need some information | 04:23 |
| ygl | can someone help me please ? | 04:24 |
| ygl | once an instance is launched, I want to detect whether it has completed the spawning , through a python nscript | 04:25 |
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| ygl | Hi all | 04:32 |
| ygl | i need a way for nova to inform me as soon as the instance creation is complete | 04:33 |
| ygl | how to do that ? | 04:33 |
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| ygl | is there anyone here who can answer my query please | 04:36 |
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| ygl | i need a way for nova to inform me as soon as the instance creation is complete | 04:51 |
| ygl | how to do that ? | 04:51 |
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| ygl | i need a way for nova to inform me as soon as the instance creation is complete | 05:23 |
| ygl | can anyone help me please ? | 05:23 |
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| ygl | hi all | 05:31 |
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| ygl | can anyone help me with nova | 05:32 |
| ygl | i need a way for nova to inform me as soon as the instance creation is complete | 05:32 |
| ygl | how can I check this event occurence from a python script ? | 05:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: config options: conductor live migrate options https://review.openstack.org/306771 | 05:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: WIP:config options: conductor live migrate options https://review.openstack.org/306771 | 06:07 |
| lennyb | ygl, can you query #nova list ? | 06:10 |
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| ygl | lennyb: thats not an efficient way I think | 06:11 |
| ygl | lennyb: there should be another way of detecting the vm state | 06:11 |
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| bauzas | good morning Nova | 07:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: Device tagging metadata API support https://review.openstack.org/304511 | 08:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: Device tagging API support https://review.openstack.org/304510 | 08:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: Device tagging compute API and RPCAPI support https://review.openstack.org/304509 | 08:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Srushti Gadadare proposed openstack/nova: Fix invalid uuid warnings in server-group unit tests https://review.openstack.org/293840 | 09:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add a RequestSpec generation migration script https://review.openstack.org/302828 | 09:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: Device tagging metadata API support https://review.openstack.org/304511 | 09:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: Device tagging API support https://review.openstack.org/304510 | 09:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: Device tagging compute API and RPCAPI support https://review.openstack.org/304509 | 09:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Integrate OSprofiler and Nova https://review.openstack.org/254703 | 09:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Fix "Delete a service " return value https://review.openstack.org/307011 | 09:25 |
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| markus_z | good morning nova, it's launchpad spring cleaning day: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/091456.html | 09:34 |
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| markus_z | Kevin_Zheng: Hey, are you around? | 09:36 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | markus_z yes | 09:36 |
| Kevin_Zheng | markus_z: yes | 09:36 |
| markus_z | Kevin_Zheng: It's about https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1564197 | 09:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1564197 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Nova should have the ability to retrieve host IP when live migrating" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Zhenyu Zheng (zhengzhenyu) | 09:36 |
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| markus_z | Is that a valid issue? | 09:37 |
| markus_z | You introduced that config option back then. | 09:37 |
| markus_z | https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/commit/?id=af41acc | 09:37 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | I will check | 09:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Add 'binary' and 'disable-reason' https://review.openstack.org/307023 | 09:40 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | Hmm, I think it is a problem, but I didnt have chance to work on it yet | 09:41 |
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| markus_z | Kevin_Zheng: Maybe you can leave a comment how to fix it and put it to the "triaged" state? | 09:41 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | Ok, I will do that | 09:42 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | Thanks | 09:42 |
| markus_z | Kevin_Zheng: If you cannot work on it, it's also good to remove you as assignee, to signal to others that they can take over. | 09:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Add 'binary' and 'disable-reason' into os-service https://review.openstack.org/307023 | 09:43 |
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| markus_z | Kevin_Zheng: And the last one, please add your IRC name to https://launchpad.net/~zhengzhenyu I needed to do a little investigation to find your name :) | 09:43 |
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| markus_z | garyk: Do you happen to know the IRC name of Vipin Balachandran? | 09:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs: PCI passthrough device role tagging https://review.openstack.org/307028 | 09:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Laszlo Hegedus proposed openstack/nova: Replace root volume during rebuild https://review.openstack.org/305079 | 09:47 |
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| lyarwood_ | markus_z: regarding the sping cleaning day, what is the best way to close out incomplete LP bugs that don't apply to liberty or mitaka? | 09:55 |
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| markus_z | lyarwood_: You mean a report from the kilo timeframe? Or do you have a specific example? | 09:56 |
| lyarwood_ | markus_z: I'm working through a few storage bugs that shouldn't be an issue since the move to os-brick but I can't see a way of closing out the actual LP bug. Apologies if I'm missing something obvious in the UI. | 09:56 |
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| lyarwood_ | markus_z: yeah so for example - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1454978 | 09:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1454978 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "[iSCSI Multipath]Thousands of multipath -ll <mp-id > are executed during volume detachment when multiple LUNs are exposed on a same target" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to Tina Tang (tina-tang) | 09:56 |
| lyarwood_ | markus_z: currently incomplete, should be closed IMHO. | 09:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: objects: Removes base code that already exists in o.vo https://review.openstack.org/307041 | 09:58 |
| markus_z | lyarwood_: Yeah, that should be closed with a comment that it should be re-tested against liberty/mitaka/master. | 09:58 |
| lyarwood_ | markus_z: kk, and can I do that or is that something only the assignee can do? | 09:58 |
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| lyarwood_ | markus_z: Sorry I'm more of a bugzilla guy, I really don't know my way around launchpad :) | 09:58 |
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| markus_z | lyarwood_: You can do that. Maybe you need to be in the nova-bugs-team group: https://launchpad.net/~nova-bugs | 09:59 |
| lyarwood_ | markus_z: Yup I am, is it just a case of moving the state to invalid, wontfix etc? | 09:59 |
| markus_z | lyarwood_: I'd use invalid in this case. | 09:59 |
| lyarwood_ | markus_z: ah great | 10:00 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: rename the response json simple-tenant-usage https://review.openstack.org/307043 | 10:00 |
| markus_z | lyarwood_: If anyone cares about this bug, they will reopen it or open another new bug report. | 10:00 |
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| lyarwood_ | markus_z: yup that's what I was also thinking, cheers | 10:00 |
| markus_z | lyarwood_: good bugs re-emerge :) | 10:00 |
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| markus_z | lyarwood_: cool, thanks for your effort there | 10:01 |
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| lyarwood_ | markus_z: ack np | 10:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: os-vif: convert libvirt driver to use os-vif library https://review.openstack.org/269672 | 10:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: virt: use more realistic fake network / VIF data https://review.openstack.org/298877 | 10:07 |
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| bauzas | markus_z: FWIW, looking over the sched bugs | 10:09 |
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| cdent | p!spy 1 | 10:16 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | markus_z: Thanks I will do that | 10:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Fix os-server-groups.inc https://review.openstack.org/307052 | 10:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Fix os-service related reference missing https://review.openstack.org/307011 | 10:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Sharat Sharma proposed openstack/nova: [api-ref] Removed tenant_id from response parameter https://review.openstack.org/307077 | 10:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Handle race in allocate_for_instance https://review.openstack.org/221803 | 10:29 |
| lyarwood_ | is there any way to unwrap comments in launchpad? | 10:30 |
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| gibi | happy bug day! just rebased https://review.openstack.org/221803 bug fix, had +2 from Ken'ichi already, so it is an easy piece :) | 10:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: Device tagging metadata API support https://review.openstack.org/304511 | 10:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: Device tagging API support https://review.openstack.org/304510 | 10:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: Device tagging compute API and RPCAPI support https://review.openstack.org/304509 | 10:33 |
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| danpb | hmm, anyone else noticing gate jobs failing with infra issues like | 10:43 |
| danpb | 2016-04-18 10:15:47.725 | W: Failed to fetch http://mirror.bhs1.ovh.openstack.org/ubuntu/dists/trusty/InRelease | 10:43 |
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| garyk | markus_z: it should be vipin | 10:49 |
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| markus_z | bauzas: thanks, every effort counts | 10:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: objects: Removes base code that already exists in o.vo https://review.openstack.org/307041 | 10:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: Update servers.inc to be as accurate as api-site https://review.openstack.org/306622 | 11:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: fix samples references for 2 files https://review.openstack.org/307109 | 11:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Raise 403 if non-admin list server groups with all_projects https://review.openstack.org/307113 | 11:21 |
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| markus_z | gstepanov: Are you still working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1243601 ? | 11:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1243601 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Insufficient RPC default timeout for pre_live_migration" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to stgleb (gstepanov) | 11:33 |
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| alex_xu | cdent: sdague quick question, why we can't remove old microversion header in new microversion? | 11:36 |
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| cdent | alex_xu: it's not that clear cut. | 11:37 |
| cdent | It's more like: if we get a modern microversion header, then we can send only the new one back | 11:37 |
| cdent | but we must always support the old one | 11:37 |
| cdent | and we get the old one, we should send both back | 11:38 |
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| sdague | it's also another weird if block people need to put into their code | 11:39 |
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| alex_xu | yes, block sounds weird, ignore it also | 11:40 |
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| cdent | I'd be pretty happy with only sending the new one back if we want to pursue that, just because it is tidier | 11:41 |
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| cdent | but I'm not sure such tidiness is really worth it | 11:41 |
| alex_xu | sounds ok for me keep them forever | 11:42 |
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| alex_xu | just really no reason get off people using the old one forever also | 11:42 |
| gibi | danpb: I hit the same gate job fail with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221803/ | 11:43 |
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| cdent | alex_xu: I think we'd deprecate the old way in the docs, so that new docs, new clients, new learners all know the new way and the way that is consistent with other openstack apis (which will only support the new way) | 11:45 |
| artom | gibi, yeah, I got the same thing. Looks like there's some connectivity issue with the OVH mirrors | 11:45 |
| sdague | right, the big issue is that there are public clouds out there for a while that won't support it | 11:45 |
| sdague | but, it's fixable in docs to teach people the new way | 11:46 |
| danpb | gibi: yeah, seems some pat of infra is kind of fubar | 11:46 |
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| alex_xu | cdent: ok | 11:47 |
| alex_xu | sdague: already have public clouds use v2.1 api? | 11:47 |
| sdague | alex_xu: I'm assuming so, I don't have that many credentials on them | 11:47 |
| alex_xu | sdague: ok, got it | 11:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Moshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: WIP fix pci resize/migration https://review.openstack.org/307124 | 11:48 |
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| moshele | ndipanov: hi | 11:48 |
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| ndipanov | moshele, hi | 11:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Srushti Gadadare proposed openstack/nova: Fix invalid uuid warnings in compute api testcases https://review.openstack.org/300453 | 11:51 |
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| moshele | ndipanov: I tried to fix the pci stuff resize/migration with your migration context see https://review.openstack.org/307124 | 11:52 |
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| moshele | ndipanov: it is WIP but it work for resize | 11:52 |
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| moshele | ndipanov: just wanted your opinion on this direction | 11:53 |
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| cdent | sdague: if you get a moment if you could help me understand what I'm missing on this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289405/ that would be great (my last comment highlights my concern/confusion) | 11:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox in tests/unit/objects/test_instance_faults https://review.openstack.org/307126 | 11:58 |
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| sdague | cdent: this is about incremental change. Today we have nothing. Exposing existing policy, even though it's baroque in how it's specified, allows some understanding of what is going on. And then allows us to define better aliases groupings as we go. | 11:59 |
| cdent | I guess that's where I disagree. I don't see how this allows additional understanding for someone who doesn't parse the proposed format. | 12:00 |
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| sdague | cdent: your alternative? | 12:02 |
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| cdent | sdague: what I said in the other comment: a GET on /policy should return a list of uris and method that you can expect to succeed as the current user OR | 12:03 |
| cdent | just let HTTP 403 do its job and let build in discoverability do its job | 12:03 |
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| cdent | I guess I don't sufficienty understand the problem space | 12:03 |
| cdent | s/build/built/ | 12:04 |
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| cdent | I feel like perhaps people are overestimating the cost of making a request that results in a 403 | 12:04 |
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| sdague | application writers have specifically asked for policy to be discoverable upfront | 12:05 |
| sdague | so that they don't all have to build autoconf for the cloud into their layer | 12:06 |
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| sdague | I think we might just have to agree to disagree here | 12:06 |
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| cdent | Maybe custom policy is the problem :) | 12:06 |
| cdent | I'm happy to agree to disagree, but only if I actually understand the issues, and I'm pretty sure I _don't_. | 12:07 |
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| sdague | you are writing a web app | 12:08 |
| sdague | got UX is that controls that the user can't do are either not there, or greyed out | 12:08 |
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| sdague | does that mean you go and hit the server over all 200+ urls to see what 403s for every user? | 12:09 |
| sdague | s/got/good/ | 12:09 |
| cdent | No, but not do you GET a list of terms that are server-side specific to determine what works. I'm okay with the concept of permissions retrieval. I'm not okay with it creating a coupling between client and server along a dimenions that is not URLs | 12:10 |
| cdent | s/but not/but nor/ | 12:10 |
| cdent | the current policy format smacks of wsdl | 12:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova-specs: Live Migration of Rescued Instances https://review.openstack.org/307131 | 12:10 |
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| sdague | cdent: sure, I think this is an incremental step to get us there | 12:11 |
| sdague | because there is lots of plumbing in getting this data back out on the wire at all | 12:11 |
| cdent | okay, then I guess we'll disagree on whether it is a backwards or forwards step | 12:11 |
| cdent | I agree the plumbing is required, but exposing the intermittent step is bad | 12:12 |
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| cdent | it will create yet another thing that will never be allowed to change | 12:12 |
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| cdent | another ontology of stuff that replicates other stuff, but differently | 12:12 |
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| alex_xu | cdent: we have /servers/{id}/action...so just url won't work | 12:13 |
| cdent | that's a url alex_xu | 12:13 |
| cdent | alex_xu: you mean the different contents of action? | 12:13 |
| cdent | in which case that's a bug | 12:14 |
| alex_xu | cdent: yes, start/stop/pause/unpause all of those actions under url /servers/{id}/action | 12:14 |
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| cdent | doesn't anyone actually like HTTP!? | 12:14 |
| cdent | :) | 12:14 |
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| sdague | cdent: yes, we also actually like our users | 12:14 |
| cdent | sdague: that's very obviously hogwash | 12:15 |
| cdent | I know we _want_ to | 12:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Srushti Gadadare proposed openstack/nova: Fix invalid uuid warnings in server-group unit tests https://review.openstack.org/293840 | 12:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Srushti Gadadare proposed openstack/nova: Fix invalid uuid warnings in objects testcases https://review.openstack.org/301650 | 12:15 |
| sdague | cdent: ok, I'm done. | 12:15 |
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| cdent | That's fair. Sorry. I'm just frustrated. | 12:15 |
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| cdent | I think there is a great deal of stuff that has established some very bad precedents that will be challenging to overcome if we don't constantly and consistently question them. | 12:16 |
| cdent | I know that people are trying very hard. | 12:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox in tests/unit/objects/test_security_group https://review.openstack.org/307135 | 12:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yingxin Cheng proposed openstack/nova-specs: Eventually consistent scheduler host state https://review.openstack.org/306844 | 12:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Laszlo Hegedus proposed openstack/nova: Replace root volume during rebuild https://review.openstack.org/305079 | 12:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Update 'os-hypervisors.inc' in api-ref https://review.openstack.org/307137 | 12:24 |
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| ndipanov | moshele, looking at the patch now but I think that's the right direction | 12:24 |
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| ndipanov | I reviewed some patches from jaypipes and said exactly that | 12:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs: PCI passthrough device role tagging https://review.openstack.org/307028 | 12:25 |
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| danpb | is there a way to just run a specific gate job | 12:27 |
| danpb | ie check experimental runs 15 jobs, but i only want to actuall see results from 1 of them | 12:27 |
| moshele | ndipanov: I moved the pci claim to be in Claim and MoveClaim | 12:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox in tests/unit/objects/test_quotas https://review.openstack.org/307141 | 12:28 |
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| danpb | eg i'd like something like "check experimental gate-tempest-dsvm-nova-os-vif-nv" | 12:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Laszlo Hegedus proposed openstack/nova: Replace root volume during rebuild https://review.openstack.org/305079 | 12:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add spec proposing use of modern-microversion https://review.openstack.org/305800 | 12:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: New configuration classes to parse device address element https://review.openstack.org/304147 | 12:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: attach configdrive after instance spawn https://review.openstack.org/303335 | 12:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: Device tagging metadata API support https://review.openstack.org/304511 | 12:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: Device tagging API support https://review.openstack.org/304510 | 12:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: Device tagging compute API and RPCAPI support https://review.openstack.org/304509 | 12:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: Compute manager device tagging support https://review.openstack.org/264017 | 12:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: Libvirt driver implementation of device tagging https://review.openstack.org/264016 | 12:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sharat Sharma proposed openstack/nova: [api-ref] Removed tenant_id from response parameter https://review.openstack.org/307151 | 12:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Srushti Gadadare proposed openstack/nova: Fix invalid uuid warnings https://review.openstack.org/300458 | 12:42 |
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| tdurakov | alaski: hey, are you around? | 12:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Add instances into dict when handle exception https://review.openstack.org/280382 | 12:57 |
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| markus_z | danpb: AFAIK it's all-or-nothing for the different queues | 12:59 |
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| danpb | given our finite number of test nodes, it is a shame that I'm forced to burn 15 test nodes for best part of an hour, when i only care about 1 | 12:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: Fix api samples references in 3 more files https://review.openstack.org/307164 | 13:00 |
| markus_z | I'm not sure if it is by design or if no one has found the time to make that more granular | 13:00 |
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| alaski | tdurakov: yep | 13:01 |
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| tdurakov | alaski: what about splitting this: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conductor/manager.py#L177 | 13:03 |
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| tdurakov | I mean, this flags for live/cold migration and rebuild, which seems to be unused. why not to split operations? | 13:04 |
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| alaski | tdurakov: I would agree with splitting that. That was all consolidated in an attempt to simplify the path through Nova for different migrations, but looking at it it's pretty clear that the merge didn't make things any better | 13:07 |
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| tdurakov | alaski: context for that split is making checks before live-migration async | 13:08 |
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| alaski | if there's a point somewhere where all of the parameters needed for live/cold migration match I could see a single path up to that point, but I think things diverge before the conductor | 13:08 |
| alaski | tdurakov: okay. I think there's a good argument for splitting that out | 13:10 |
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| tdurakov | alaski: ok, will add you to review, when finish with this change | 13:11 |
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| alaski | sounds good | 13:13 |
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| lbeliveau | ndipanov, moshele: did you had time to look at the patches I've submitted for cold migration ? | 13:24 |
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| markus_z | danpb: Would you consider this (old) bug report still as valid? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1305062 | 13:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1305062 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "live migration doesn't work for VMs in rescued state" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to stgleb (gstepanov) | 13:25 |
| markus_z | I'm not quite sure if I would expect a "rescued" VM as eligible for migration | 13:26 |
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| * danpb is rather surprised to find his openstack-client-as-a-service hack cut 18% off devstack running time by avoiding python startup overheads | 13:26 | |
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| danpb | markus_z: yep, i still consider this a bug | 13:26 |
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| danpb | any time the VM is running & consuming host resources, it should be migratable | 13:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add Allocation and AllocationList objects https://review.openstack.org/282442 | 13:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add ResourcePool and ResourcePoolList objects https://review.openstack.org/284963 | 13:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add a get_by_uuid for aggregates https://review.openstack.org/284895 | 13:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add name to ResourceProvider object https://review.openstack.org/281945 | 13:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: WIP resource-pools/placement api https://review.openstack.org/293104 | 13:27 |
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| cdent | danpb: doesn't really surprise me all that much. python has always been notorious for startup, not just in openstack | 13:27 |
| markus_z | OK, so no exception for "rescued". I thought that this is a repair-mechanism which could prevent the usual flow. | 13:27 |
| cdent | is cool that you actually tried it and shared your results | 13:27 |
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| syjulian | hi everyone, I'm working on a bug related to nova.virt.firewall.IptablesFirewallDriver. Is there someone or a subteam that would be able to provide some guidance? | 13:28 |
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| markus_z | syjulian: hey, is it the patch from jaypipes from some time ago? | 13:28 |
| syjulian | yeah | 13:28 |
| markus_z | syjulian: which guidance do you need? | 13:28 |
| danpb | cdent: except my results show its not really python itself, but rather the modules we've imported that are at faulkt | 13:29 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: I review it and I also work on a to fix migration and resize in a different way (using the migration context) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307124/ | 13:29 |
| danpb | since my replacement client is still written in python and uses a few modules | 13:29 |
| syjulian | I'm pretty new to nova, so just knowing how firewalls work in nova | 13:29 |
| syjulian | or how they get set up | 13:29 |
| cdent | danpd: I guess we're differing on the definition of python | 13:29 |
| cdent | the thing you've changed is that you import all that stuff once, right? | 13:30 |
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| cdent | oops danpb | 13:30 |
| * cdent must learn to type | 13:30 | |
| danpb | pretty much | 13:30 |
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| cdent | the notoriety I'm referring to is: cost of import | 13:31 |
| cdent | anyway, is cool | 13:31 |
| danpb | oh right | 13:31 |
| moshele | lbeliveau:I tested my patch on resize and it work, and it may work on migration need to check that | 13:31 |
| markus_z | syjulian: Did you already get the unit test running which was part of jaypipes patch back then? | 13:31 |
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| syjulian | not yet | 13:31 |
| lbeliveau | moshele: cool, I guess using migration context is what we want ? is it more aligned with how migration is done with other type of resources ? | 13:32 |
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| markus_z | syjulian: I'd reuse this change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246274/ | 13:32 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: it aligned with the numa resource | 13:32 |
| lbeliveau | moshele: so my patch is useless ? I'm ok with that, just want to know what's the plan | 13:33 |
| markus_z | syjulian: It's just a few weeks old and should be the best starting point. | 13:33 |
| syjulian | markus_z: should I just pull this down and work from there? also, why was this abandoned? | 13:33 |
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| sarafraj | morning | 13:34 |
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| moshele | lbeliveau: I guess that depend on the nova cores | 13:35 |
| markus_z | syjulian: yeah, I guess it's best if you pull that down. | 13:35 |
| lbeliveau | moshele: well if your patch is more aligned with how it's done with numa, we should perhaps use yours | 13:36 |
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| lbeliveau | moshele: you are using my patch in neutronv2 api right ? | 13:36 |
| markus_z | syjulian: The review comment from chenli says that fayaz is working on that, but I didn't find a change for that. | 13:36 |
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| markus_z | Unfortunately these two contributors aren't online right now | 13:36 |
| bauzas | markus_z: permission to shoot https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1354403 as Invalid/Wishlist and refer to centralize-conf-opts ? | 13:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1354403 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Numerous config options ignored due to CONF used in import context" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Stephen Finucane (sfinucan) | 13:37 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: I tested only resize I didn't get to migration of direct port | 13:37 |
| markus_z | bauzas: negative | 13:37 |
| markus_z | bauzas: This is a different scope | 13:37 |
| sfinucan | bauzas: different issue, IMO | 13:37 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: I need to check this | 13:38 |
| lbeliveau | moshele: ok let me know if I can help, looks like you are in the right direction | 13:38 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: cool thanks | 13:38 |
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| markus_z | bauzas: I haven't found time yet to dig deeper there or to ask sfinucan how we could solve this. | 13:38 |
| bauzas | markus_z: well, fair enough | 13:38 |
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| bauzas | markus_z: I just feel tagging it "scheduler" is wrong | 13:38 |
| bauzas | markus_z: and "compute" too | 13:39 |
| bauzas | markus_z: we should rather tag it differently like "config" | 13:39 |
| lbeliveau | moshele: are you going to summit ? there are other bugs that need to get fixed wrt migration/resize, we should discuss | 13:39 |
| markus_z | bauzas: yep, I think you're right | 13:39 |
| bauzas | okay, scrubbing those | 13:39 |
| markus_z | sfinucan: Are you still working on this? | 13:39 |
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| sfinucan | markus_z: Sure am. I've had a bugfix open for ~3 months :) | 13:40 |
| sfinucan | Still needs more work though, however | 13:40 |
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| markus_z | uh, there it is, sorry, didn't see it | 13:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: Don't return 300 for random urls https://review.openstack.org/307186 | 13:40 |
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| sarafraj | markus_z: I know today is a bug cleaning day. Let me know how can I help. | 13:40 |
| markus_z | sarafraj: ah, perfect :) http://45.55.105.55:8082/bugs-dashboard.html#tabInconsistent | 13:41 |
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| moshele | lbeliveau: yes I am going, you can start an on all the things we need to address | 13:42 |
| markus_z | sarafraj: if the bug report has an assignee it should maybe be in progress | 13:42 |
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| markus_z | sarafraj: I say "maybe" because sometimes the assignee is set for a long time and probably won't result in a patch | 13:43 |
| markus_z | sarafraj: then I remove the assignee | 13:43 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: there is design summit there is session regarding pci see https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-summit-ideas | 13:43 |
| sarafraj | markus_z: got it. Link is taking forever to open | 13:43 |
| lbeliveau | moshele: yeap I've seen it, thanks | 13:44 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: cool | 13:44 |
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| markus_z | sarafraj: oh, you're right, odd. One sec, I give you another link. | 13:44 |
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| markus_z | sarafraj: https://github.com/markuszoeller/openstack/blob/master/scripts/launchpad/query_inconsistent.py | 13:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: [WIP]: nova-api-hypervisor-cpu-info change https://review.openstack.org/304180 | 13:48 |
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| mriedem | moshele: lbeliveau: are you going to be at the summit? | 13:51 |
| mriedem | moshele: lbeliveau: if so you should be at the nova session on performance VMs https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/9090 | 13:51 |
| lbeliveau | mriedem: yes I am | 13:51 |
| mriedem | since we'll be talking about NVF CI there | 13:51 |
| mriedem | cool | 13:51 |
| bauzas | oh, the etherpad was created | 13:51 |
| mriedem | yes https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-performance-vms | 13:51 |
| lbeliveau | mriedem: yes I'm planning at attending | 13:51 |
| mriedem | sdague created etherpads for all of the nova design summit sessions last week | 13:51 |
| moshele | mriedem: me too | 13:52 |
| sdague | mriedem: the etherpads are still blank, but I at least put the links up for where things should all be | 13:52 |
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| lbeliveau | I just added a new sub-topic for PCI resource tracking (Currently we rely on compute audit to free PCI devices after a migration, should be done right after the migration is done) | 13:52 |
| bauzas | mriedem: okay, I'm going to transfer the content from the global etherpad to the specific one | 13:52 |
| sdague | mriedem: what is the focus you wanted on bugs today? | 13:52 |
| bauzas | and link to it in the global one | 13:53 |
| jaypipes | edleafe, bauzas, cdent, mriedem, dstepanenko__: scheduler meeting? | 13:53 |
| bauzas | yup, 5 mins | 13:53 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: yep - in 7 min | 13:53 |
| edleafe | hmmm... clocks differ? | 13:53 |
| bauzas | scrubbing the list of sched bugs to down 20 :p | 13:53 |
| jaypipes | oh, duh. | 13:53 |
| bauzas | we have lots of dups | 13:53 |
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| jaypipes | shit I need more caffeine. | 13:53 |
| edleafe | we all do | 13:54 |
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| mriedem | bauzas: nice work | 13:54 |
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| mriedem | sdague: yeah, i'll fill them in this week | 13:54 |
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| mriedem | s/fill/prime/ | 13:54 |
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| sdague | so it seems like we've got a ton of bugs because nova -> neutron keystone auth is weird out of the box - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1570241 | 13:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1570241 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "ERROR (ClientException): Unexpected API Error during type the command: nova virtual-interface-list" [Undecided,New] | 13:56 |
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| danpb | ttx: ping - afaict you're listed as openstack-dev list administrator - can you kill hs634@yahoo-inc.com from the list so we don't get bounces from yahoo for every single mail sent to the list | 13:57 |
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| mriedem | sdague: yeah we have a few duplicates of that | 13:59 |
| ttx | danpb: I can do that. | 13:59 |
| mriedem | sdague: auggy was going to create a meta bug for handling that betterin the api | 13:59 |
| mriedem | so you don't get a 500 because nova can't talk to neutron yet | 13:59 |
| danpb | ttx: great, thank you | 13:59 |
| ttx | done | 13:59 |
| sdague | mriedem: what would you expect to happen on a command that needs neutron that has incorrect neutron auth setup? | 14:00 |
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| mriedem | sdague: i think we have a check somewhere for when cinder or glance are not available and return something like a 503, but i'd have to find it | 14:01 |
| edleafe | Nova scheduler meeting starting now in #openstack-alt | 14:01 |
| sdague | because I don't know that anything other than a 500 makes sense | 14:01 |
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| bauzas | lbeliveau: moshele: mriedem: sfinucan: just amended https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-performance-vms with all your concerns, feel free to add anything you'd like to discuss | 14:04 |
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| mriedem | bauzas: i have a todo to go through the intel and mellanox CI jobs and figure out what they are testing today (what configs), i think we need that in the etherpad before the discussion starts to see what large gaps we have | 14:05 |
| bauzas | lbeliveau: moshele: mriedem: sfinucan: I'm particularly interested in knowing the functional coverage we have with Tempest and specific 3rd party tests | 14:05 |
| edleafe | cdent: around for the scheduler meeting? | 14:05 |
| mriedem | bauzas: jinx :) | 14:05 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: heh, was about to do so as well | 14:05 |
| mriedem | bauzas: i probably won't get to that today though | 14:05 |
| markus_z | sarafraj: the site should load again, would you check it please? | 14:07 |
| sarafraj | markus_z: yup. working now | 14:07 |
| sarafraj | markus_z: thx | 14:08 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: me too, today is a bug scrubbing day | 14:08 |
| bauzas | mriedem: I just need to choose whether I'm JD or Turk | 14:08 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: can you change the channel topic to "4/18 bug spring cleaning day http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/091456.html" please? | 14:09 |
| dansmith | yes | 14:10 |
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| sdague | mriedem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1571678 - before I start duping some bugs against that, I want to make sure you are happy with this approach | 14:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1571678 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Nova shouldn't return limits for resources it doesn't manage" [Undecided,New] | 14:22 |
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| mriedem | sdague: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1570241 is a duplicate, i'll find the bug | 14:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1570241 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "ERROR (ClientException): Unexpected API Error during type the command: nova virtual-interface-list" [Undecided,New] | 14:23 |
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| mriedem | sdague: i'll look after the scheduler meeting | 14:24 |
| sdague | mriedem: ok | 14:24 |
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| mriedem | sdague: linked those bugs to the bp i have for newton https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/implement-os-vritual-interfaces-for-neutron | 14:32 |
| mriedem | just need to implement that network API for neutron to list VIFs | 14:32 |
| mriedem | i have a spec up for that, it's trivial | 14:32 |
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| sdague | mriedem: ok | 14:33 |
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| sdague | mriedem: was there a fix for the baremetal 500 posted - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1547564 ? | 14:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1547564 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova baremetal-node-list unexpected API error 500" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to kamalhussain (hussain-kamal) | 14:37 |
| mriedem | sdague: i removed the bm CLIs from novaclient, but that doesn't mean the API works | 14:38 |
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| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301931/ | 14:38 |
| mriedem | although, list should work | 14:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Catch errors during VIF plug/unplug https://review.openstack.org/264146 | 14:39 |
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| mriedem | sdague: looks like in that bm node list bug they don't have auth setup properly for nova to talk to ironic | 14:41 |
| mriedem | TRACE nova.api.openstack.extensions raise exc.AmbiguousAuthSystem(e) | 14:41 |
| mriedem | 2016-02-19 15:38:04.601 TRACE nova.api.openstack.extensions AmbiguousAuthSystem: Must provide Keystone credentials or user-defined endpoint and token | 14:41 |
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| sdague | ah, I wonder if this is further fallout from all those keystone auth failures | 14:41 |
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| mriedem | sdague: also, this is a person using devstack, probably basic setup, which doesn't setup ironic | 14:43 |
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| mriedem | i marked it invalid | 14:43 |
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| sdague | mriedem: cool | 14:45 |
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| paul-carlton1 | tdurakov, Trying to get a look at gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-live-migration but https://jenkins01.openstack.org/job/gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-live-migration is not accessible, what am I missing | 14:47 |
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| sdague | it does still feel like we should do something smarter when it comes to auth failures at the service level | 14:48 |
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| mriedem | sdague: like handle those and return a 403? | 14:49 |
| mriedem | or 401, i'm not sure the difference | 14:49 |
| mriedem | or guideline | 14:49 |
| bebech | I want to write down a feature that when an instance is going to be deleted, there will be an information on VM (via wall) that it is bound to happen | 14:49 |
| bebech | where do I have to look for it? | 14:49 |
| mriedem | sdague: rlrossit was looking at doing a global patch to handle auth failures that creep through the rest layer and return a 500 | 14:50 |
| bebech | now I'm greping whole Nova with 'delete' and 'deletion' keyword | 14:50 |
| mriedem | can't remember if a patch was pushed up for that or not | 14:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Catch errors during VIF plug/unplug https://review.openstack.org/264146 | 14:50 |
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| jroll | bebech: I think you want the virt driver destroy() method | 14:50 |
| rlrossit | mriedem: 'twas not | 14:50 |
| bebech | jroll: so libvirt modification? | 14:51 |
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| jroll | bebech: libvirt nova driver, at least, idk how you go about pushing a wall through libvirt :) | 14:51 |
| mriedem | rlrossit: remember talking about that though? | 14:51 |
| mriedem | there was some inheritance issue in that global error handler | 14:51 |
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| rlrossit | mriedem: indeed, but like most things, I did not act upon them | 14:52 |
| bebech | jroll: mhm... thanks! | 14:52 |
| jroll | yeah np :) | 14:52 |
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| sdague | bebech: you are going to need a guest agent to coordinate something like that | 14:55 |
| sdague | bebech: I think most of the time delete triggers an acpi shutdown in the guest, so you might be able to put in custom guest code that processes that | 14:56 |
| sdague | anyone know if this got implemented in neutron - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169612 ? | 14:56 |
| dansmith | it does now, yes | 14:56 |
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| bebech | sdague: I understand... so is it about sending a different ACPI code instead of G2 or G3? | 14:56 |
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| dansmith | bebech: what is the point in knowing you're about to be deleted in a few seconds? | 14:57 |
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| bebech | dansmith: the point is that I want to extend the time time between infor,ation and deletion | 14:58 |
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| dansmith | bebech: so actually on deletion we just destroy I think, no acpi shutdown, because there is no point | 14:59 |
| dansmith | bebech: it's pretty uncloudy to block a destroy event, especially from inside the guest | 14:59 |
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| bebech | dansmith: that's why I want to figure out how to inform a user before that deletion | 15:00 |
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| bebech | I've got my small Openstack beta cloud, now I'm just testing bunch of new stuff and I want to inform my users about termination soon | 15:02 |
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| dansmith | bebech: I think you should do that outside of nova | 15:02 |
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| sdague | dansmith: I'm not convinced we do that in the base case, last time I looked it was always a graceful shutdown. | 15:06 |
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| dansmith | sdague: I think only for soft delete right? | 15:06 |
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| alaski | I think it was switched to graceful at some point so that attached volumes didn't get corrupted | 15:08 |
| sdague | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/d761ba3bd4474fdca6740d6aed3331aa433a8b4a/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L908 | 15:08 |
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| dansmith | alaski: ah yeah you're right, I forgot about that | 15:08 |
| mriedem | andreykurilin: since we decided to make the volume_service_name in novaclient a deprecation change rather than removal, i'm thinking it's time to move ahead with novaclient 4.0 release | 15:09 |
| mriedem | andreykurilin: is there anything i'm missing for 4.0? | 15:09 |
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| Yingxin | jaypipes: I'm writing the spec for shared-state-scheduler based on generic-resource-pools, the same start point with resource-provider-scheduler | 15:10 |
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| Yingxin | jaypipes: the progressing is here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306844/ | 15:10 |
| Yingxin | bauzas: ^ | 15:11 |
| bauzas | Yingxin: otp, but thanks | 15:11 |
| sdague | dansmith / alaski - hmmm... actually, maybe we are back to hard kill | 15:12 |
| tdurakov | paul-carlton1: hi, it seem that https://jenkins01.openstack.org/ is unavailable | 15:12 |
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| sdague | guest.shutdown -> domain.destroy | 15:12 |
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| mriedem | sdague: on https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1571678 we have a latent bug for that we can dupe against | 15:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1571678 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Nova shouldn't return limits for resources it doesn't manage" [Undecided,New] | 15:13 |
| mriedem | let me dig it up | 15:13 |
| sdague | mriedem: ok | 15:13 |
| sdague | I created another thought in a new bug | 15:13 |
| dansmith | sdague: we wait for it to go to shutdown state first | 15:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Ivo Vasev proposed openstack/nova: Added validation for rescue image ref https://review.openstack.org/307317 | 15:13 |
| dansmith | sdague: but we apparently wait forever, which is broken | 15:14 |
| mriedem | sdague: there is a spec for dealing with this that needs to be resurrected | 15:14 |
| mriedem | sdague: as in i don't think we can just start omitting those resources in a bug fix since it's an api change | 15:14 |
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| dansmith | there used to be a setting for how long to wait before we just force kill it | 15:14 |
| mriedem | sdague: this was the spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206735/ | 15:15 |
| mriedem | sdague: this is the old bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1186354 | 15:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1186354 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Limits API doesn't work with Neutron" [Low,Opinion] - Assigned to Cale Rath (ctrath) | 15:15 |
| auggy | mriedem: yes I was! Let me do that... | 15:17 |
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| tdurakov | paul-carlton1: folks from #openstack-infra provided some details http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/092482.html | 15:17 |
| mriedem | rlrossit: if you're looking for something to do, this spec needs to be cleaned up and re-proposed for newton https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206735/ | 15:17 |
| sdague | dansmith: ah, right - https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/d761ba3bd4474fdca6740d6aed3331aa433a8b4a/nova/compute/manager.py#L2428 | 15:18 |
| mriedem | ccarmack: ^ | 15:18 |
| dansmith | sdague: yeah | 15:18 |
| sdague | that was only 10 levels of methods to get there | 15:18 |
| dansmith | sdague: so I think we do briefly blip the guest via ACPI, but then destroy | 15:18 |
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| markus_z | dims: Do we have a generic "remove deprecated ec2 code" bug|bp? | 15:18 |
| markus_z | dims: There is this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1441242 | 15:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1441242 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "instances internal_id attribute not in use" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to Noel Nelson Dsouza (noelnelson) | 15:18 |
| markus_z | dims: which seems to be related to https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/commit/?id=4140eb4 | 15:19 |
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| sdague | dansmith: hmmm... that does end up calling destroy on the virt layer | 15:20 |
| sdague | so I'm not even sure any more | 15:20 |
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| dims | markus_z : probably not the bulk of the change was in this one review (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263368/) | 15:22 |
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| markus_z | dims: ok, so we just remove single things when we spot them? | 15:24 |
| dims | markus_z : yes | 15:24 |
| markus_z | dims: ok, thanks | 15:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Remove marker from nova-manage cells_v2 map_instances UI https://review.openstack.org/301916 | 15:29 |
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| sarafraj | markus_z: What does bug status Triaged mean? Is it confirmed or need more info? I mean what is the next step for it? | 15:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Restrict positional arguments for Client https://review.openstack.org/306316 | 15:32 |
| markus_z | sarafraj: It's confirmed + it provides information how to solve it | 15:32 |
| markus_z | sarafraj: The next step should be someone picking it up and pushing a change for it. | 15:33 |
| markus_z | sarafraj: "more info" == "incomplete" | 15:33 |
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| sarafraj | markus_z: alright, thx | 15:33 |
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| andreykurilin | mriedem: Hi! We do not have anything critical. But as same as for previous releases, I have small patch which I want to get merged as soon as possible. https://review.openstack.org/306316 it is small. Just want to display warning as soon as possible, so other projects will start to remove deprecated stuff quicker. | 15:34 |
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| sdague | mriedem / markus_z - there are actually quite a few in http://45.55.105.55:8082/bugs-dashboard.html#tabIncompleteStale that are set to auto expire this week | 15:35 |
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| sdague | markus_z: is there a way you could filter those out of your result set | 15:35 |
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| markus_z | sdague: The simple way is to switch the to confirmed and back to incomplete. | 15:35 |
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| markus_z | sdague: I use the date of the last switch to incomplete for this list | 15:36 |
| mriedem | markus_z: if they are going to expire, | 15:36 |
| mriedem | markus_z: i think sdague is asking that we ignore them and let them die | 15:36 |
| markus_z | mriedem: ah, I understood it differently. Yeah, just let it die | 15:37 |
| sdague | right | 15:37 |
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| sdague | but I'm curious if there is info in launchpad lib that a bug will auto expire | 15:37 |
| sdague | and if so, don't show them | 15:37 |
| sdague | because the process is working | 15:37 |
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| markus_z | let me check, I think there was something | 15:38 |
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| sdague | bauzas: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1450454 is not low-hanging-fruit :) | 15:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1450454 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Allow admin to upload SSH keypair on behalf of an user" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Eli Qiao (taget-9) | 15:40 |
| sdague | it's an API change, which requires a spec | 15:40 |
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| bauzas | sdague: fair enough, I plead the youngness :D Sylvain Bauza (sylvain-bauza) on 2015-05-07 | 15:42 |
| sdague | heh | 15:43 |
| bauzas | that said, I remember some jaypipes's bug report saying the compute/service split as "low-hanging-fruit" :p | 15:43 |
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| bauzas | oh, and "youth" (not joungness, ouch) | 15:44 |
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| markus_z | There is "can_expire" for a bug, but it's not "True" as I would expect it. | 15:44 |
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| markus_z | ah, wait, "isExpirable" it is. | 15:45 |
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| mriedem | nice, 'this looks like it's already fixed by x, can you confirm?' 'yes, it is, thanks' | 15:45 |
| mriedem | easy to close those out :) | 15:45 |
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| mriedem | markus_z: btw, did you take a note of how many stale incomplete and inconsistent bugs were in the dashboard when you started today? | 15:46 |
| markus_z | mriedem: yep, sec | 15:47 |
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| markus_z | mriedem: http://paste.openstack.org/show/494446/ | 15:47 |
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| markus_z | mriedem: FYI, I'm on vacation for the rest of the week. Maybe I'll be shortly here for the meeting on Thursday. | 15:49 |
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| mriedem | ok | 15:49 |
| bauzas | markus_z: why I'm named in your paste file ? | 15:49 |
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| mriedem | bauzas: bug stats | 15:49 |
| mriedem | 45.55.105.55:8082/bugs-stats.html | 15:49 |
| markus_z | bauzas: That's a stats report I did | 15:49 |
| bauzas | based on what ? | 15:50 |
| mriedem | actions performed on bugs | 15:50 |
| mriedem | see that dashboard | 15:50 |
| bauzas | mmm, ok | 15:50 |
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| bauzas | I usually hate stats, sorry | 15:50 |
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| mriedem | bauzas: it just shows who's doing bug triage | 15:51 |
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| markus_z | I thought it could be motivating to see that the effort is somewhat noted, as it could be a Sisyphus work sometimes | 15:51 |
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| bauzas | well | 15:51 |
| bauzas | not sure it's motivating | 15:51 |
| bauzas | for example, the trivial patch monkeys were anonymous, we only counted the number of merged changes | 15:52 |
| sdague | dansmith: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1449062 is assigned to you - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1449062 | 15:52 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1449062 in Glance "qemu-img calls need to be restricted by ulimit (CVE-2015-5162)" [High,In progress] | 15:52 |
| tdurakov | eliqiao: hi, are you around? | 15:52 |
| dansmith | really? | 15:52 |
| sdague | can you take a look at current status on that | 15:52 |
| sdague | yep | 15:52 |
| dansmith | sdague: probably because I was the last one to push up a backport or something? | 15:53 |
| sdague | dansmith: might be | 15:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: [WIP]: nova-api-hypervisor-cpu-info change https://review.openstack.org/304180 | 15:53 |
| dansmith | sdague: all merged: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1449062 | 15:53 |
| dansmith | so I think it's good | 15:53 |
| markus_z | bauzas: I'm open for ideas how to improve the participation for the bug triage work :) | 15:53 |
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| bauzas | markus_z: I'm tempted to close https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1497100 as invalid/wishlist and refer to check-destination-on-migrations blueprint | 15:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1497100 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Affinity policy problems with migrate and live-migrate" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to Pushkar Umaranikar (pushkar-umaranikar) | 15:54 |
| markus_z | bauzas: For example auggy did a lot(!) of work in the last months with the new bugs, but it wasn't reflected somewhere. | 15:54 |
| dansmith | sdague: well, maybe not, since it got reverted | 15:54 |
| bauzas | markus_z: keeping the bug open is not really helpful | 15:54 |
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| dansmith | sdague: danpb would be a good one to look, I have no context other than having done a backport I think | 15:54 |
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| auggy | markus_z: it was reflected in the number of new bugs not getting so high ;D | 15:55 |
| bauzas | markus_z: well, getting people doing hard work is not really something you can promote easily | 15:55 |
| markus_z | bauzas: yep, if there is a bp which drives the effort, close the bug report | 15:55 |
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| markus_z | auggy: yeah, but that was a little hidden :) | 15:55 |
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| bauzas | markus_z: I'm just afraid by anyone wanting to gamify the bug stats by doing silly triage | 15:55 |
| markus_z | bauzas: I cannot prevent that | 15:56 |
| bauzas | it's purely benevolent | 15:56 |
| danpb | dansmith: sdague: for the qemu-img / ulimit bug, we reverted the change quoted in commnt #36 and i don't believe we've done a followup fix yet | 15:56 |
| bauzas | markus_z: well, I agree, but it's a wider subject than just doing bug triage, it's about building credibility | 15:56 |
| sdague | danpb: do we still consider it valid? | 15:56 |
| danpb | yep, its absolutely valid | 15:56 |
| sdague | ok, it's a year old CVE | 15:57 |
| danpb | i'm confident the original steps to reproduce will still apply | 15:57 |
| danpb | yep, sucks that its hung around for so long | 15:57 |
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| danpb | though it is "merely" a denial of service | 15:57 |
| * dansmith frames that | 15:57 | |
| danpb | so not a high severity cve | 15:58 |
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| danpb | looks like the oslo.concurrency feature we need merged in Feb this year, so nova shouldn't be blocked for fixing it anymore | 15:59 |
| markus_z | bauzas: I don't trust numbers I didn't fake myself ... :D | 15:59 |
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| auggy | mriedem: markus_z: i went ahead and filed a bug for the issue i said i'd update like oh... 2 weeks ago was it?! yarr | 16:03 |
| auggy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1571722 | 16:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1571722 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Neutronclient failures throw unhelpful "Unexpected Exception"" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:03 |
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| auggy | i need to link the original bug and that one is ready to go | 16:03 |
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| mriedem | auggy: thanks | 16:05 |
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| auggy | now that taxes are done i should be a little more focused | 16:06 |
| * auggy stabs taxes in the face | 16:06 | |
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| mriedem | wow, waiting until the very last minute | 16:07 |
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| auggy | well... *i* wasn't waiting, i was handling the filing for both me and my spouse :) | 16:09 |
| auggy | and we had some documents missing | 16:09 |
| auggy | on his side :P | 16:09 |
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| auggy | i didn't know this, but apparently in Germany, the government is very honest and just does all the taxes *for you* | 16:10 |
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| cdent | auggy: it's sort of like that here in the UK too | 16:10 |
| cdent | if you are a fairly generic employee of just one employer, there's nothing to do | 16:11 |
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| auggy | i guess that's kind of true here too, i mean you still have to file but it's just the "EZ" form | 16:12 |
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| markus_z | auggy: Well, it takes more than needed and you are responsible to say why it is too much. After that you get your money back. | 16:12 |
| auggy | as long as you haven't sold any stock or have a home office, or moved across country or have any interest or other things to deduct... | 16:12 |
| danpb | its also nice that the UK tax authority actually provides a great online service for filing | 16:12 |
| auggy | markus_z: aha, i will have to point that out to my husband :P | 16:12 |
| danpb | so you don't have to fill in paper forms, or buy commercial software | 16:12 |
| auggy | i think he just let them take whatever and couldn't be bothered | 16:12 |
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| markus_z | auggy: Not sure if we do the right thing. AFAIK 50-60% of tax laws worldwide are German... sometimes we overdo a little... | 16:14 |
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| auggy | markus_z: oh yeah, i'm sure everyone has plenty of comments about their respective country's tax system :) I KNOW I DO | 16:15 |
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| markus_z | he he | 16:17 |
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| edleafe | auggy: are you working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1544720 ? | 16:17 |
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| openstack | Launchpad bug 1544720 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "In response template processing, some values are set to u'' instead of None" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Augustina Ragwitz (auggy) | 16:17 |
| auggy | edleafe: i am not! i had forgotten about that one | 16:17 |
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| edleafe | OK, I'll unassign you. | 16:17 |
| auggy | edleafe: i went ahead and reassigned it to nobody but i'll pick it up another time if no one else has | 16:17 |
| auggy | could be a good low-hanging-fruit one | 16:17 |
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| edleafe | yep | 16:18 |
| auggy | if a newish person wanted to pick it up i'd be happy to pair with them | 16:18 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: very large low-hanging fruit ;) | 16:19 |
| auggy | jaypipes: more like a low-hanging-pineapple ? | 16:20 |
| jaypipes | auggy: yes indeed :) | 16:20 |
| jaypipes | auggy: low-hanging watermelon. | 16:20 |
| auggy | hahahaha | 16:20 |
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| jaypipes | heh | 16:21 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: tbh, thanks to your bug report, I had to understand a lot of stuff, including data migrations, nova objects and other things :) | 16:21 |
| jaypipes | I think dansmith would bring the hammer. | 16:21 |
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| auggy | the sledge-o-matic | 16:21 |
| jaypipes | right. | 16:21 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: so it was an awesome bug report for working on Nova as like a newcomer | 16:21 |
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| bauzas | :) | 16:22 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: well good, it accomplished its overall mission then :) | 16:22 |
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| bauzas | yup, hence me thinking newcomers should rather work on difficult blueprints rather than easy bugreports | 16:22 |
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| markus_z | sdague: The "stale incomplete" items, I know how to filter them now. You suggest to ignore those which will auto-expire, right? | 16:24 |
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| mriedem | markus_z: sdague: i'm sort of on the fence about filtering those out | 16:27 |
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| mriedem | there was at least one i found that was marked incomplete but someone had confirmed it (sorrison) and pushed a fix, but the patch was abandoned due to inactivity | 16:28 |
| mriedem | that doesn't mean it's not an issue though, | 16:28 |
| mriedem | so i moved it back to confirmed | 16:28 |
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| markus_z | hm, those would slip through then, yeah | 16:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: WIP: Create Session instance if possible https://review.openstack.org/304035 | 16:29 |
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| sarafraj | markus_z: Is this bug invalid https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1538448 | 16:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1538448 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "REST api layer doesn't handle TooManyInstances while doing resize" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to Eli Qiao (taget-9) | 16:33 |
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| sneti- | mriedem, can i move the bugs to unassinged if they are assigned for 1 year and no patches were submitted. | 16:34 |
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| markus_z | sarafraj: Hm, no I think that error should be caught on other places too | 16:34 |
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| markus_z | eliqiao: ^ | 16:35 |
| mriedem | sneti-: yeah | 16:35 |
| mriedem | sneti-: although when the bug was reported and when someone assigned themselves are not the same thing | 16:35 |
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| sneti- | mriedem, yes..its about when it was assigned.. | 16:36 |
| sarafraj | markus_z: ok | 16:37 |
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| markus_z | I'm leaving for today and I will be out-of-office for the rest of the week. Happy triaging. See you folks in Austin. | 16:41 |
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| auggy | markus_z: see you in Austin-tatious! | 16:44 |
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| mriedem | so | 16:46 |
| mriedem | dansmith: alaski: sdague: old ass bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1068154 | 16:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1068154 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Renaming Instance Name doesn't change hostname on a Rebuild" [Medium,Incomplete] | 16:46 |
| mriedem | see comment 16 | 16:46 |
| paul-carlton2 | tdurakov, how do I make one novaspec dependant on another? | 16:46 |
| mriedem | i think what they want is to change the server hostname on a rebuild | 16:46 |
| mriedem | but isn't the point of a rebuild to change the image but maintain the network and storage of the original instance? | 16:47 |
| mriedem | so it's a pet | 16:47 |
| mriedem | and thus changing the hostname in the guest on a rebuild when the nic doesn't change seems wrong | 16:47 |
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| alaski | I would expect rebuild to build the instance as it is before the rebuild, except for the changed image | 16:49 |
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| alaski | I think we should take rebuild out of consideration here for a moment | 16:49 |
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| alaski | should changing the instance name change the hostname? | 16:50 |
| alaski | if so then that should persist through rebuild | 16:50 |
| alaski | but I wouldn't expect rebuild to suddenly take a new hostname if the instance wasn't affected before rebuild | 16:50 |
| alaski | and I personally don't think instance name and hostname should be coupled so I'm not picking a side there | 16:51 |
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| paul-carlton2 | how do I make one novaspec dependant on another? | 16:51 |
| mriedem | i don't think they should be coupled either | 16:51 |
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| mriedem | alaski: i took the easy route on the bug and said this is an api change and requires a lot of more discussion, so it needs a spec | 17:01 |
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| mriedem | yikes, rolling back from failed swap volume initiated by a cinder volume migration https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1550639 - a turducken of orchestration that can go terribly wrong | 17:01 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1550639 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "After migrate volume being attached instance, the instance cann't run normally" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to YaoZheng_ZTE (zheng-yao1) | 17:01 |
| mriedem | ildikov: scottda: hemna_: can you migrate multiattach volumes? | 17:02 |
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| hemna_ | what do you mean migrate? | 17:04 |
| hemna_ | cinder migrate? | 17:04 |
| hemna_ | or nova live migrate? | 17:04 |
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| mriedem | cinder migrate | 17:07 |
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| sdague | markus_z: what do your tabs provide that the direct launchpad queries don't? | 17:11 |
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| sarafraj | sdague: markus_z left for the day. | 17:13 |
| sdague | ok | 17:13 |
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| mriedem | sdague: ot | 17:14 |
| mriedem | a dashboard for one | 17:14 |
| mriedem | i personally dislike the advanced search in LP for the most part | 17:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Arun Kant proposed openstack/nova: Fix for barbican endpoint discovery with service catalog case https://review.openstack.org/243322 | 17:15 |
| sdague | mriedem: the nice thing about advanced search in LP is it's current | 17:16 |
| sdague | so you don't have the stale issue of "did I actually do this bug already?" | 17:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/303345 | 17:16 |
| mriedem | yeah, i don't know what refresh cron markus has setup on this | 17:16 |
| sdague | it's an hour | 17:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Gage Hugo proposed openstack/nova: Verify pci_passthrough_whitelist fields https://review.openstack.org/306054 | 17:17 |
| erhudy | sdague: are you expecting me to propose a bp 'for something to replace vendordata_driver? | 17:17 |
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| scottda | mriedem: That is a good question. I don't know of anything in the design that says you should not be able to 'cinder migrate' a multi-attach volume, but I'm not sure anyone has tested it. | 17:18 |
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| mriedem | scottda: yeah, just worries me - layers upon layers of orchestration | 17:20 |
| mriedem | but i could see people expecting it because volume multiattach is for pets | 17:21 |
| mriedem | and volume migration / swap volume is for pets | 17:21 |
| sdague | erhudy: that's probably the next step, at least a backlog spec - http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/backlog/ | 17:21 |
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| erhudy | ok | 17:22 |
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| ildikov | mriedem: for pets? | 17:26 |
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| mriedem | scottda: so it looks like in the volume manager in cinder it calls nova to do the swap volume which is a cast to the compute in nova, | 17:32 |
| mriedem | and then cinder just waits for nova to call back to cinder to complete the migration | 17:32 |
| mriedem | but nova could have already failed by then and never does the callback to cinder | 17:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Petrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: HyperV: Add SerialConsoleOps class https://review.openstack.org/184040 | 17:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Petrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: HyperV: Nova serial console access support https://review.openstack.org/145004 | 17:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Petrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: HyperV: Add serial console handler class https://review.openstack.org/184039 | 17:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Petrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: HyperV: Add serial console proxy https://review.openstack.org/184038 | 17:33 |
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| erhudy | sdague: is the objection to exposing a class loader override because it's not a contractual interface in this case, or that you want to get rid of anywhere where class loaders can be overridden by non-upstream code period? | 17:33 |
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| mriedem | yikes, we don't even change task state when doing a swap volume operation | 17:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Petrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: HyperV: Add SerialConsoleOps class https://review.openstack.org/184040 | 17:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Petrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: HyperV: Nova serial console access support https://review.openstack.org/145004 | 17:35 |
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| mriedem | alaski: seems like we should set a task_state when doing a swap_volume operation... | 17:35 |
| mriedem | because you could delete the instance while swapping volumes and leave the volumes in a garbage state on the cinder side | 17:35 |
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| mriedem | especially because the nova user might not be initiating the swap volume, it could be cinder initiating it from the admin migrating the volumes | 17:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: WIP resource-pools/placement api https://review.openstack.org/293104 | 17:36 |
| sdague | erhudy: that in general we want to get rid of all class loaders | 17:36 |
| scottda | mriedem: yup, looks like yet another mess to cleanup. I'll add something to the cinder-nova-api-changes etherpad to track the issue | 17:36 |
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| alaski | mriedem: a task_state would probably be good to have. during the delete some cleanup could be added | 17:38 |
| alaski | swap_volume should also be protecting against an unexpected deleted | 17:38 |
| erhudy | sdague: i see, i suppose i have an objection to that because we hook into class loader overrides in various places to do things that wouldn't make sense to upstream because they reflect particular environment conditions here | 17:38 |
| erhudy | but, i'll just write something up for a backlog spec and we'll go from there, i guess | 17:38 |
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| mriedem | alaski: swap_volume in the compute api checks state | 17:39 |
| mriedem | @check_instance_state(vm_state=[vm_states.ACTIVE, vm_states.PAUSED, | 17:39 |
| mriedem | vm_states.SUSPENDED, vm_states.STOPPED, | 17:39 |
| mriedem | vm_states.RESIZED, vm_states.SOFT_DELETED]) | 17:39 |
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| mriedem | but doesn't change the task_state, and delete requires the task_state to be None | 17:39 |
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| ildikov | scottda: I added migration to the list of scenarios to discuss, but we might open a new section to this one instead | 17:40 |
| alaski | I thought delete was always allowed | 17:40 |
| mriedem | ah looks like i was interpreting that decorator wrong | 17:41 |
| smcginnis | ildikov, scottda: Replication was another one I was thinking we might want to bring up in there. | 17:41 |
| alaski | I always have to look it up | 17:41 |
| alaski | (None,) allows nothing, None allows all | 17:41 |
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| mriedem | still, setting a task state while swapping volumes would make you think twice before deleting your instance | 17:41 |
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| alaski | true | 17:41 |
| mriedem | especially because the user doesn't know it's happening | 17:42 |
| scottda | smcginnis: You mean for multi-attach? Or some other replication issue? | 17:42 |
| smcginnis | scottda: Kind of in general. | 17:42 |
| alaski | we usually also have code during a task to catch InstanceNotFound and clean up properly, since that's usually the failure when a delete happens | 17:42 |
| scottda | smcginnis: Yeah, like replication failover with boot-from-volume.. | 17:42 |
| smcginnis | scottda: I think we need to start thinking about replication failover and how the plays out on the nova side. | 17:43 |
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| smcginnis | scottda: Exactly! | 17:43 |
| mriedem | alaski: do you know if we have any rules around when to add instance action events or notifications for an operation? swap_volume doesn't have any of those that i can see either | 17:43 |
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| alaski | mriedem: I'm not aware of any rules beyond if they don't have them add them | 17:43 |
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| alaski | for a while I argued that admin initiated things shouldn't have instance-actions, but I think the ship sailed on that | 17:44 |
| mriedem | gah | 17:44 |
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| mriedem | swap_volume, just, terrible | 17:44 |
| mriedem | we could probably spend a specless blueprint on just tightening up that operation | 17:44 |
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| mriedem | not really a feature though | 17:45 |
| mriedem | robustify-swap-volume | 17:45 |
| mriedem | dansmith: ^ has your name written all over it | 17:45 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: I will grant you a limited license for that name, good for the duration of the newton cycle only | 17:46 |
| ildikov | mriedem: handle it as a bug or just add it to the list of items we're trying to clean up here? | 17:46 |
| mriedem | ildikov: both? | 17:46 |
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| mriedem | although adding a new task state for swapping volumes might require a bp, not sure | 17:46 |
| ildikov | mriedem: I asked a bit from administration perspective, I think it's better to write these things down when we more or less agree on what needs to be done | 17:47 |
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| ildikov | would we need a diagram for swap_volume as well? | 17:48 |
| mriedem | ildikov: idk | 17:48 |
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| mriedem | cinder volume migrate -> nova swap volume -> cinder volume migration complete | 17:49 |
| ildikov | ok, cool :) | 17:49 |
| mriedem | things could fall over in many ways between those last 2 | 17:49 |
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| diana_clarke | dansmith: I tossed a couple more "database poison warning" patches up when you have time, https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bug/1568414 | 17:50 |
| dansmith | diana_clarke: okay cool | 17:50 |
| ildikov | mriedem: I only tried to clean up the volume checks when I was adding the multiattach case, but I couldn't manage to even finish with that small part... | 17:50 |
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| diana_clarke | dansmith: No rush, or anything. More of an FYI since I submitted them at an odd hour & you might not have seen them. Thanks | 17:52 |
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| ildikov | scottda: mriedem: we're having the weekly meeting this week also, right? | 17:53 |
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| mriedem | ildikov: yeah i think so | 17:54 |
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| ildikov | mriedem: ok, I'll send out the reminder mail | 17:55 |
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| scottda | ildikov: Yeah, looks like we're still discovering topics to be addressed. | 17:57 |
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| ildikov | scottda: yeah, the list is getting quite long | 17:58 |
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| sdague | dansmith: any thoughts on this - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1570748 ? | 18:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1570748 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Bug: resize instance after edit flavor with horizon" [High,Confirmed] | 18:09 |
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| mriedem | diana_clarke: have you played with live snapshot and libvirt at all? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1530275 | 18:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1530275 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Live snapshot is corrupted (possibly race condition?)" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Eli Qiao (taget-9) | 18:10 |
| dansmith | sdague: does it say what version that is? | 18:10 |
| dansmith | sdague: because that shouldn't be a thing anymore I think | 18:10 |
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| mriedem | I tested this in stable/kilo, but I think stable/liberty and stable/mitaka has same bug because source code is not changed. | 18:11 |
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| mriedem | then someone said it worked in mitaka, | 18:12 |
| mriedem | and then someone said they recreated in master | 18:12 |
| mriedem | so who knows | 18:12 |
| mriedem | i can test it on my newton devstack quick | 18:12 |
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| dansmith | sdague: ah, they say it works in mitaka but not master.. I'll add a comment | 18:16 |
| mriedem | dansmith: keep in mind that whoever said it doesn't work on master, might be meaning mitaka | 18:17 |
| mriedem | w/o a hash it's hard to know | 18:17 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: yeah | 18:18 |
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| mriedem | heh, weird, nova flavor-delete shows you the details of the flavor that you just deleted | 18:22 |
| mriedem | thanks novaclient! | 18:22 |
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| mriedem | oh snap | 18:25 |
| mriedem | stack@swapvol:~$ nova resize-revert resize-test | 18:25 |
| mriedem | ERROR (BadRequest): Flavor used by the instance could not be found. (HTTP 400) (Request-ID: req-98916fd8-846e-4564-ac45-a09933883bb0) | 18:25 |
| mriedem | the resize is fine, | 18:25 |
| mriedem | the revert fails | 18:25 |
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| mriedem | there isn't much in the n-api logs | 18:29 |
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| mriedem | posted comments https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1570748/comments/4 | 18:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1570748 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Bug: resize instance after edit flavor with horizon" [High,Confirmed] | 18:30 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: hmm, the migration object, that has the old instance type id | 18:33 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: yep, so? | 18:33 |
| mriedem | reverse_upsize_quota_delta | 18:33 |
| mriedem | tries to ge the flavor | 18:33 |
| mriedem | by the old id | 18:33 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: we should be getting the flavor information from the instance | 18:33 |
| mriedem | we're no | 18:33 |
| mriedem | *not | 18:33 |
| mriedem | not for reverse_upsize_quota_delta | 18:33 |
| mriedem | we get it from the migratoin | 18:33 |
| dansmith | so maybe he has migrated, the flavor got deleted for real and .. | 18:34 |
| dansmith | okay | 18:34 |
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| mriedem | yeah, i recreated it | 18:34 |
| dansmith | well, that's _been_ a bug then | 18:34 |
| sdague | oomichi: do you know where the volume-types samples are? because I didn't find any | 18:34 |
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| oomichi | sdague: I commented there is not the sample file now and we need the sample instead of removing | 18:35 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: when this is fixed that's probably a good tempest test | 18:35 |
| sdague | oomichi: right now, I think we need to get rid of the warnings | 18:35 |
| sdague | that's why I left it as a todo | 18:35 |
| sdague | until we get warnings clean, we can't enforce no new warnings | 18:36 |
| mriedem | dansmith: yeah, i was thinking the same thing | 18:36 |
| mriedem | i know we have a revert resize test, but not with the flavor being deleted | 18:36 |
| oomichi | sdague: TODO is fine | 18:36 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yeah | 18:36 |
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| sdague | dansmith/mriedem: given that's it's all db manip, could we do it in the functional tree? | 18:37 |
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| sdague | or do you need real libvirt? | 18:37 |
| diana_clarke | mriedem: Nope (re #1530275). Why, does it look like a good learning bug for me? | 18:37 |
| dansmith | sdague: maybe, do we push any migrate type things in functional now? | 18:38 |
| mriedem | diana_clarke: just using your red hat association and danpb and kashyap weren't around | 18:38 |
| mriedem | sdague: we'd have to mock out the actual resize stuff in the fake virt driver | 18:38 |
| dansmith | right | 18:38 |
| dansmith | I'd think it'd be ugly to do as functional, | 18:38 |
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| dansmith | and we have resize tests already in tempest | 18:38 |
| sdague | right, but this whole issue exposes above that right though? | 18:38 |
| dansmith | this would be just like another one | 18:38 |
| mriedem | yeah it's mostly just api and db | 18:39 |
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| diana_clarke | mriedem: Nope, I'm a total n00b w/ tons to learn. | 18:39 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: so to fix this, i guess we have to look up the old_instance_type from the instance rather than the migration_ref? | 18:39 |
| dansmith | mriedem: we should be doing that anyway | 18:40 |
| dansmith | mriedem: so yes | 18:40 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: instance.old_flavor | 18:40 |
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| mriedem | this is probably a rare case since flavors aren't generally deleted, or at least not within the window for confirming a resize | 18:42 |
| dansmith | unfortunately, | 18:42 |
| dansmith | horizon lets you "resize" them, which is a delete/create :/ | 18:42 |
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| dansmith | and given that it strands an instance, it's rather uncool | 18:42 |
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| dansmith | you can't even resize it to the new version of the flavor | 18:43 |
| dansmith | so it looks easy for an operator to do it because of how horizon exposes it | 18:43 |
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| mriedem | i'm pretty sure when i recreated i booted the instance, deleted the flavor, then resized | 18:43 |
| mriedem | which was ok | 18:44 |
| dansmith | I thought you said you reproduced it? | 18:44 |
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| mriedem | i recreated a 404 on the revert | 18:44 |
| dansmith | oh just on the revert? | 18:45 |
| mriedem | yeah | 18:45 |
| mriedem | details are in that comment i posted in the bug | 18:45 |
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| dansmith | I see now, yeah | 18:46 |
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| dansmith | that concerns me a lot less then | 18:46 |
| sdague | bauzas: you still about for this - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1537062 ? | 18:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1537062 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Fail to boot vm when set AggregateImagePropertiesIsolation filter and add custom metadata in the Host Aggregate" [Undecided,New] | 18:46 |
| sdague | or any scheduler folks, actually | 18:47 |
| dansmith | mriedem: one could argue that we should (gracefully) not allow reverting to a deleted flavor, but.. probably no reason not to just make it work like you expect | 18:47 |
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| mriedem | i guess your only option then would be to confirm the resize | 18:48 |
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| mriedem | i don't really see this being a 'high' severity bug though | 18:48 |
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| edleafe | sdague: what's the question? | 18:50 |
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| mriedem | edleafe: bug triage | 18:51 |
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| sdague | edleafe: the validity of https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1537062 ? | 18:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1537062 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Fail to boot vm when set AggregateImagePropertiesIsolation filter and add custom metadata in the Host Aggregate" [Undecided,New] | 18:51 |
| sdague | because it seems to be when you insert a certain filter it gets mad if your aggregate metadata doesn't match the image md schema. Which might be fine | 18:51 |
| edleafe | sdague: I haven't tested/reproduced it, but if that's happening then yeah it's valid | 18:52 |
| sdague | the logs are pretty clear that it's happening | 18:52 |
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| sdague | and you can kind of see where in the code | 18:52 |
| edleafe | sdague: yeah, I figured. Let me dig into what the object is doing | 18:53 |
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| mtecer | Hi guys, I am having issues with bootable cinder volumes, backing image has hw_disk_bus set to scsi. Instance boots with no issues, however instance details has vda as root device, and this causes issues with attaching more volumes. Any ideas ? | 19:00 |
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| mriedem | mtecer: what kinds of issues attaching more volumes? | 19:06 |
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| mtecer | mriedem: ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.dispatcher libvirtError: internal error: unable to execute QEMU command '__com.redhat_drive_add': Duplicate ID 'drive-scsi0-0-0-0' for drive | 19:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jesse J. Cook proposed openstack/nova: Unavailable hosts have no resources for use https://review.openstack.org/306670 | 19:08 |
| mriedem | never seen that one before | 19:08 |
| mtecer | mriedem: This is happening because, nova for reason thinks root device mounted as vda, it is sda in reality, when I try to attack a volume, it attempts to mount it on sda. | 19:08 |
| mtecer | mriedem: Yeah, it is confusing. | 19:08 |
| edleafe | sdague: ok, marked https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1537062 as Low and assigned it to myself | 19:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1537062 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Fail to boot vm when set AggregateImagePropertiesIsolation filter and add custom metadata in the Host Aggregate" [Low,New] - Assigned to Ed Leafe (ed-leafe) | 19:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Fix hosts and az api samples https://review.openstack.org/307424 | 19:09 |
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| sdague | edleafe: can you move it out of New as well | 19:15 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: so are you working on a fix for that revert bug? | 19:17 |
| mriedem | dansmith: i thought about writing the tempest test | 19:17 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: i'd like to, but no time | 19:17 |
| mriedem | i could take the tempest test if you could take the bug fix | 19:18 |
| dansmith | mriedem: okay, I'll look at the actual fix, but I won't have much tolerance for screwing with making functional tests work | 19:18 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yeah, cool | 19:18 |
| mriedem | dansmith: i think i saw someone take that other bug from a week ago, about neutron being down crashing the nova list api | 19:19 |
| dansmith | oh? | 19:19 |
| dansmith | cool | 19:19 |
| mriedem | well, | 19:19 |
| mriedem | i have a feeling their idea of the fix isn't the same as yours | 19:19 |
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| mriedem | i don't actually remember the bug number, but could find it | 19:20 |
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| edleafe | sdague: done | 19:20 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: found it https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1567655 | 19:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1567655 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "500 error when trying to list instances and neutron-server is down" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Sreenivas (sreenivas-pothukanoori) | 19:23 |
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| cdent | p!spy 1 | 19:25 |
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| sdague | mriedem: so there is that one, but there is also this inordinant number of bugs that are basically neutron auth is messed up | 19:32 |
| mriedem | sdague: yeah, those should be piled up on top of the bug auggy reported | 19:33 |
| sdague | ok | 19:33 |
| sdague | auggy: what is that bug #? | 19:33 |
| auggy | lemme see | 19:33 |
| dansmith | I read that as "piled on top of auggy" | 19:33 |
| mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1571722 | 19:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1571722 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Neutronclient failures throw unhelpful "Unexpected Exception"" [Medium,Confirmed] | 19:33 |
| * auggy shudders under the weight of the bug pile | 19:33 | |
| mriedem | back to the pile? | 19:33 |
| mriedem | don't make me find the youtube clip | 19:33 |
| auggy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1571722 | 19:34 |
| auggy | ah matt beat me to it | 19:34 |
| sdague | mriedem: there were a couple of bugs I saw this morning, which I need to dig up, which were basically limits on network resources managed by neutron are wrong when reported via the nova limits api | 19:35 |
| mriedem | sdague: we already talked about this... | 19:35 |
| sdague | and I'm kind of wondering if we should continue to report those at all in those cases | 19:35 |
| sdague | mriedem: ok, apparently I missed your response | 19:36 |
| mriedem | there was a spec that needs reviving | 19:36 |
| sdague | mriedem: link? | 19:36 |
| mriedem | i'll dig it up | 19:36 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206735/ | 19:36 |
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| mtreinish | mriedem: are you gonna push patches for all those wishlist tempest bugs you're opening up? | 19:39 |
| mriedem | mtreinish: yes | 19:39 |
| mriedem | of course | 19:39 |
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| mriedem | no sleep 'til austin! | 19:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Fix reverse_upsize_quota_delta attempt to look up deleted flavors https://review.openstack.org/307438 | 19:41 |
| dansmith | mriedem: ^ | 19:41 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I don't think we need to backport this to mitaka by the way | 19:42 |
| dansmith | mriedem: it should work fine in mitaka, just not the most efficient | 19:42 |
| mriedem | dansmith: i guess tempest will tell us | 19:42 |
| dansmith | unless we look it up without read_deleted and fail I guess | 19:43 |
| dansmith | but I think we're okay | 19:43 |
| dansmith | but yeah | 19:43 |
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| mriedem | i'll work on the bug stuff for another hour and then start on that tempest test | 19:58 |
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| mriedem | edleafe: another scheduler bug with some history https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1403020 | 20:00 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1403020 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Kwarg 'filter_class_names' is never passed to HostManager#get_filtered_hosts" [Wishlist,Incomplete] | 20:00 |
| sdague | mriedem: ok, so that's the add a proxy approach | 20:01 |
| edleafe | mriedem: I can grab that one too. | 20:01 |
| mriedem | edleafe: see the comments from dan in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143285/ | 20:01 |
| mriedem | looks like it's related to a plug point that is now deprecated | 20:02 |
| mriedem | so maybe we just invalidate it | 20:02 |
| mriedem | would have to confirm that | 20:02 |
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| mriedem | sdague: ultimately that's what i'd push for on that limits one, yeah | 20:02 |
| sdague | mriedem: really? | 20:02 |
| mriedem | because the alternatives are not great imo | 20:02 |
| sdague | so, the current data is wrong | 20:03 |
| mriedem | yeah, this has been beat to death a few times in the ML on why | 20:03 |
| sdague | super wrong | 20:03 |
| sdague | ok, I guess I'll just leave it then. I think that approach is just a giant pile of debt | 20:03 |
| mriedem | yes i know it's currently fubar, has been forever | 20:03 |
| sdague | we need to not make fubar things work in janky ways | 20:03 |
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| sdague | that was the lesson of the XML API | 20:03 |
| mriedem | i don't see how this is the same | 20:04 |
| sdague | fubar things should be removed, because no one really needed it | 20:04 |
| mriedem | if i'm talking to a compute endpoint using nova-net, i can get limites, | 20:04 |
| mriedem | *limits | 20:04 |
| sdague | yep | 20:04 |
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| mriedem | if i'm talking to another compute endpoint that's using neutron, gorp | 20:04 |
| sdague | yes | 20:04 |
| ccarmack | alaski, melwitt, mriedem: for cellsv2 testing, I was thinking we need a multinode cells job and a cells multinode grenade job | 20:04 |
| mriedem | so that pushes code into the client to have to distinguish the two, | 20:04 |
| sdague | the important point, almost no one is talking to nova-net | 20:04 |
| mriedem | and detect the neutron case and call neutron for that info | 20:05 |
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| edleafe | mriedem: the scheduler_host_manager option isn't deprecated (yet) | 20:05 |
| sdague | I feel like the needle moved here from the point when we were going to try to make n-net and neutron have perfect pairity | 20:06 |
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| sdague | and at this point we should assume people are talking to neutron, and know how to use neutron tools | 20:06 |
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| melwitt | mriedem, edleafe: I was just looking at that one. the conclusion on the patch was that filter_class_names has to stay until the plug point is removed as it's a pluggable interface e.g. ironic uses | 20:07 |
| mriedem | well, at this point, with that bug, people have probably been hurt by it and been forced to work around it | 20:08 |
| edleafe | melwitt: yeah, that makes sense | 20:08 |
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| edleafe | melwitt: is there a bug/bp for removing the plug point? | 20:08 |
| melwitt | edleafe: okay. I was about to ask you if that's consistent with what you thought from looking at it | 20:09 |
| melwitt | edleafe: not that I know of | 20:09 |
| alaski | ccarmack: if necessary I think we could get away with a single node, but multinode would be much better | 20:09 |
| edleafe | melwitt: I'll add one and note it on 1403020 | 20:10 |
| ccarmack | alaski: ok, thanks… I was going to write a spec on cells testing | 20:11 |
| melwitt | edleafe: I guess I thought the removal of all the scheduler pluggability would be one unified effort? | 20:11 |
| melwitt | edleafe, mriedem: as in, could we punt this as Invalid for now or what's the right thing to do if a thing has to stay until "scheduler plug points removed?" | 20:11 |
| edleafe | melwitt: actually, it making the entire scheduler one big plug | 20:12 |
| melwitt | edleafe: ah, okay | 20:12 |
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| alaski | ccarmack: awesome. both of those jobs would be great, multinode and multinode-grenade | 20:12 |
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| edleafe | melwitt: even if it were separate, we don't need to have the HostManager class for the scheduler be pluggable. Just support HostManager and for a while IronicHostManager | 20:13 |
| ccarmack | alaski: cool | 20:14 |
| mriedem | melwitt: edleafe: regardless of the plug point, why do we need the kwargs in get_filtered_hosts if nothing ever passes it over? | 20:16 |
| melwitt | edleafe: I was thinking of how to handle the bug. I was imagining if we create a placeholder bp now, what happens later when someone does more of the work, roll it into a spec? | 20:16 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: I thought ironic host manager somehow makes use of it. looking again now | 20:18 |
| mriedem | melwitt: i'm not seeing that | 20:18 |
| mriedem | also, this has leaked into cinder and manila | 20:18 |
| edleafe | melwitt: yeah, that's what I got from dansmith's comment | 20:18 |
| mriedem | but not used there either :) | 20:18 |
| melwitt | hmm | 20:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan McNair proposed openstack/nova: Fix swap_volume to use attached vol_id to get BDM https://review.openstack.org/304714 | 20:20 |
| mriedem | oh so the plug point is host_manager | 20:20 |
| mriedem | let me look that up | 20:20 |
| mriedem | This option also supports a full class path style, for example | 20:20 |
| mriedem | "nova.scheduler.host_manager.HostManager", but note this support is deprecated | 20:20 |
| mriedem | and will be dropped in the N release. | 20:20 |
| melwitt | it's still supported via entry points though | 20:21 |
| melwitt | after N | 20:21 |
| edleafe | melwitt: yeah, but when the option goes, so does the entry point usage | 20:22 |
| mriedem | edleafe: i don't think so | 20:22 |
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| melwitt | it becomes entry point only at that point, from how I read it | 20:23 |
| mriedem | yeah, that's how i read it | 20:23 |
| melwitt | that aside, I'm not seeing how filter_class_names is used by ironic host manager. I don't know if it used to be or what | 20:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: WIP:config options: conductor live migrate options https://review.openstack.org/306771 | 20:23 |
| edleafe | ugh, really? An entry point that has to be a single value? | 20:24 |
| melwitt | I guess it doesn't really matter what ironic is doing, if the plug point is there, the interface should stay as long as it is | 20:24 |
| edleafe | melwitt: a custom host manager class could call it's own method, too | 20:24 |
| edleafe | oh god | 20:24 |
| edleafe | I used "it's" as a possessive | 20:25 |
| melwitt | edleafe: no, you can make it be ironic host manager or the default one I think | 20:25 |
| edleafe | the nuns are coming to kill me now | 20:25 |
| mriedem | melwitt: yeah, doesn't matter if ironic is using it | 20:25 |
| mriedem | my out of tree host manager could be using it | 20:25 |
| mriedem | melwitt: unless you add another entrypoint to your custom nova setup.cfg right? | 20:25 |
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| mriedem | if we read it just as, this is only valid for the host manager entrypoints that are registered with nova, then we are probably ok breaking the contract with out of tree things... | 20:26 |
| melwitt | in setup.cfg they're both defined and you pick it based on the conf value is what it looks like | 20:27 |
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| melwitt | and yes, if you have an out of tree thing you'd be adding to setup.cfg custom | 20:28 |
| mriedem | but in that case we might just say you're on your own if we break you by changing the method signature | 20:28 |
| mriedem | sdague probably has an opinion here | 20:28 |
| melwitt | yeah, that has been my understanding. that's why in the patch the main point was ironic host manager was using it but I don't see that now | 20:29 |
| melwitt | I'm going to look back to see what it was. it was nearly a year ago | 20:29 |
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| tpatzig | mriedem: regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267673/ when can we meet up on the summit to discuss/plan further | 20:30 |
| tpatzig | is saw you already added that topic to the unconference list | 20:30 |
| mriedem | was going to say, add it to unconference | 20:31 |
| mriedem | else it would be the friday meetup | 20:31 |
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| tpatzig | are these unconference sessions somehow ordered; or do they just take place if someone is interested? | 20:33 |
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| tpatzig | mriedem: so i'll just be around on the unconference slots and wait for my topic | 20:36 |
| sdague | mriedem: well, I'm reopenning that issue on the ML | 20:36 |
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| mriedem | tpatzig: there is an etherpad and you should take one of the 10 minute slots | 20:37 |
| mriedem | there are 4 10 min slots per sessoin | 20:38 |
| mriedem | with 2 sessions | 20:38 |
| mriedem | sdague: alright | 20:38 |
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| melwitt | just read over the comments in the old patch again. I think it's not that ironic host manager ever used the filter_class_names, it's just that ironic uses the host manager plug point. and that there's a chance of breaking someone out of tree for not much gain, by removing one kwarg not used in tree | 20:39 |
| melwitt | for whatever reason I was having trouble parsing that earlier | 20:40 |
| dansmith | melwitt: all we would have to do is change it to an enum | 20:40 |
| dansmith | melwitt: I don't care about breaking out of tree people, we just need to be able to switch ironic in | 20:40 |
| dansmith | so just an ironic_host_manager=True|False conf option would be better | 20:41 |
| melwitt | dansmith: yeah, the author wanted to remove the filter_class_names kwarg specifically, not the plug point | 20:41 |
| tpatzig | mriedem: alright. great. i'll add it to one of them. thanks | 20:41 |
| mriedem | i'm actively removing the ability to load the scheduler host manager from a classpath | 20:41 |
| mriedem | just running unit tests | 20:42 |
| melwitt | dansmith: and since ironic host manager doesn't use the kwarg, it's not used in tree | 20:42 |
| dansmith | mriedem: cool | 20:42 |
| mriedem | melwitt: yeah, so after i remove the classpath loading ability, we can remove the unused kwarg | 20:42 |
| dansmith | melwitt: okay | 20:42 |
| melwitt | oh. right | 20:42 |
| lifeless | alaski: hey, so that patch is looking v close | 20:42 |
| mriedem | and then we can drop all network related apis in nova because sdague is angry :) | 20:43 |
| lifeless | alaski: do you think its feasible to reuse the existing C implemented descriptors? | 20:43 |
| melwitt | heh | 20:44 |
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| alaski | lifeless: PartialClassMethod is basically a python implementation of the C descriptor, what I didn't know how to do was pass in a method to one of the built in descriptors | 20:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Ivo Vasev proposed openstack/nova: Added validation for rescue image ref https://review.openstack.org/307317 | 20:47 |
| alaski | lifeless: PartialUnboundMethod doesn't have a built in analog afaik, but I could be missing something | 20:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | dane-fichter proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add ephemeral storage encryption spec for Newton https://review.openstack.org/307476 | 20:48 |
| ccarmack | alaski: was there an etherpad for cells upgrade scenarios, or am I misremembering | 20:50 |
| alaski | ccarmack: there is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267153/ | 20:50 |
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| alaski | I don't recall an etherpad, but my memory is terrible | 20:50 |
| ccarmack | alaski: ah, thanks | 20:50 |
| mriedem | alaski: we probably invalidate this since it doesn't sound trivial from your reply https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1539056 | 20:52 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1539056 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova service-list failed when one or some cell-service exception of multiple child cells" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Jinquan Ni (ni-jinquan) | 20:52 |
| mriedem | and is a latent bug | 20:52 |
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| alaski | mriedem: yeah, I don't see that getting fixed | 20:53 |
| mriedem | cool, justified with #2 in http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/cells.html#status | 20:53 |
| mriedem | for when the lawyers call | 20:53 |
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| lifeless | alaski: I think on 2 UnboundFunctionType and on 3 FunctionType; haven't tested yet | 20:55 |
| lifeless | alaski: current patch still has PartialClassMethod AFAICT? Perhaps github oddness? | 20:55 |
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| alaski | mriedem: nice. "I will bring to your attention section 2, point A and subpoint beta where we have heretofore rescinded support of the operations your client alleges" | 20:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Gage Hugo proposed openstack/nova: Verify pci_passthrough_whitelist fields https://review.openstack.org/306054 | 20:56 |
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| melwitt | alaski: Phone Czar | 20:57 |
| mriedem | bauzas: this looks ok to me, not sure what you're looking for here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266233/ | 20:57 |
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| mriedem | legal czar | 20:57 |
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| mriedem | alaski isn't a lawyer but he plays one on irc | 20:58 |
| alaski | alaski, esq. | 20:58 |
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| dedery | hi cores, can you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287515 (Fix failed snapshot on VMs with SRIOV ports) ? it's been hanging around with multiple +1s for some time now. Thanks :) | 20:58 |
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| mriedem | dedery: i will proceed to nit pick this to death | 21:00 |
| alaski | lifeless: yes, the current patch still has PartialClassMethod. I may have misunderstood your comment there. | 21:01 |
| melwitt | mriedem, bauzas: yeah, by adding it to props that test checks that the field isn't in the primitive for the older version (it's using 1.0 but I think that's fine). so I think it's already doing what bauzas pointing out | 21:02 |
| dedery | mriedem: hehe :) as long as there's motion towards merging/rejecting this i'm happy :) standing in place is not my thing | 21:03 |
| lbeliveau | dedery: does your fix is also applicable to resume ? (see my comments in the review) | 21:03 |
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| dedery | lbeliveau: hi, i saw it. didn't understand what "resume" stands for - did you mean the stage after the snapshot? (in which the ports are reconnected to the VFs) | 21:04 |
| dansmith | alaski: can you look at the quota mocking here and see if you think it's okay? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306887/2 | 21:05 |
| mriedem | dedery: lbeliveau: i was also looking at those | 21:05 |
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| mriedem | suspend detaches the pci/sriov | 21:05 |
| mriedem | resume attaches them again | 21:05 |
| alaski | dansmith: that doesn't seem like fun, but yeah | 21:06 |
| mriedem | doesn't seem like those would be the same use cases as snapshot though | 21:06 |
| dansmith | alaski: well, sorry | 21:06 |
| lbeliveau | dedery: yes, see the resume() method, it's doing the same thing wrt to attaching sriov | 21:07 |
| dedery | lbeliveau: though there's no observed problem there. I agree that I should consider adding the try-except to resume() as well. In the specified scenario (VF is offline) the snapshot fails but the resume succeeds | 21:08 |
| dedery | though there's a log that the port can't be attached to the VF since the PF is offline | 21:08 |
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| dedery | so in reality the problem doesn't exist | 21:09 |
| mriedem | dedery: so i'm an nfv newb, but if we do not even care if we can attach the pci/sriov devices during snapshot, why even do it? | 21:09 |
| mriedem | you can't attach them later i don't think | 21:10 |
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| mriedem | because we don't have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139910/ | 21:11 |
| alaski | lifeless: I removed PartialClassMethod in favor of just classmethod(partial(new_value)) and that works. I can test UnboundMethodType and FunctionType if I can figure out their signatures. They're not documented anywhere that I can find and getargspec didn't work because they're not defined in python | 21:11 |
| bauzas | melwitt: mriedem: okay, if you both think it's okay, I can just remove my -1 | 21:12 |
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| bauzas | it's a bit late for me thinking about that, so I leave you approving it :p | 21:12 |
| melwitt | bauzas: not asking for that, just wasn't sure if you were thinking of something different | 21:12 |
| dedery | mriedem: lost you there. the spec refers to a manual operation. i don't think that it'll be acceptable to any customer that the snapshot will detach and you'll need to reattach the SRIOV ports manually | 21:13 |
| melwitt | bauzas: it sounded like you were saying the test should do a backport and check that the field is not present in the resultant primitive | 21:13 |
| mriedem | dedery: i'm asking why simply swallowing the exceptions in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287515/7/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py is ok | 21:14 |
| mriedem | and why it's even there to begin with if we don't care | 21:14 |
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| bauzas | melwitt: yeah, I was thinking about that | 21:14 |
| bauzas | melwitt: but that's something we can discuss later | 21:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Remove deprecated ability to load scheduler_host_manager from path https://review.openstack.org/307485 | 21:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Fix "Creates an aggregate" parameters https://review.openstack.org/306607 | 21:25 |
| mriedem | dedery: i think i get it now, commented inline | 21:27 |
| mriedem | dedery: the fact that you have to look 200 lines up in the code to see how tightly coupled that operation is made me miss that we detach the pci/sriov devices before the snapshot, and the code you're changing is after that when we re-attach them | 21:27 |
| mriedem | and that's failing | 21:27 |
| dedery | mriedem: LOL :) a well documented AHA moment | 21:28 |
| mriedem | well, cripes, that's pretty bad tight coupling | 21:28 |
| dedery | mriedem: agree | 21:28 |
| mriedem | i think i've been on the record before saying i hate the libvirt driver's snapshot method | 21:28 |
| mriedem | if x and y and not z, and we assume already did 1 and 2 and 3, then do A | 21:29 |
| mriedem | what could possibly go wrong | 21:29 |
| mriedem | it still seems wrong to not error out the operation... | 21:29 |
| dedery | ...nothing :) all very logical and straight forward | 21:29 |
| mriedem | b/c now your vm doesn't have the pci/sriov devices attached | 21:29 |
| mriedem | and you can't manually attach them later b/c we don't have api support for that | 21:30 |
| dedery | so just before i started fixing this bug i asked ndipanov if snapshot should fail due to this error and the answer was "probably not" | 21:30 |
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| dedery | plus, the VM itself doesn't fail. it keeps on running in this best-effort mode | 21:30 |
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| dedery | so either fail the snapshot and the VM or succeed in both is my logic | 21:31 |
| dedery | but i'm open for suggestions | 21:31 |
| mriedem | but now my telco NFV pet is underperforming b/c my special devices are no longer attached | 21:31 |
| mriedem | and as a user i have no obvious indication of that since the snapshot succeeds | 21:31 |
| dedery | agree. by the way, this came from our QA who totally expected that the snapshot will not fail though the pet is underperforming | 21:32 |
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| mriedem | i guess i have the same QA mindset here :) | 21:32 |
| dedery | maybe a snapshot --force ? (i'm really open for suggestions...) | 21:33 |
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| sgordon | is there anyway you can rebuild from the snapshot and thus get the attachments again? | 21:36 |
| sgordon | otherwise yeah it seems like it should just error out for now... | 21:36 |
| dedery | sgordon: didn't try it. will try it now (hopefully i have a setup...) | 21:37 |
| mriedem | dedery: comments inline | 21:37 |
| mriedem | dedery: sgordon: i'd recommend checking the states of those ports before detaching them | 21:38 |
| mriedem | b/c if you can detect early that you won't be able to re-attach them, just fail and don't detach | 21:38 |
| mriedem | at least that's a case where you (as a user) can open a ticket to the admin to get the ports back into a working state | 21:38 |
| dedery | so the suggested flow is check if it's possible to re-attach them, if yes - snapshot. if no - don't execute the snapshot and raise an error? | 21:39 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: i suppose i need an upgrade release note for removing this huh https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307485/ | 21:39 |
| mriedem | dedery: yeah, imo | 21:39 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I guess | 21:39 |
| mriedem | unless we can't reliably detect that we won't be able to reattach later | 21:39 |
| mriedem | that's all nfv gorp that i don't know the details of | 21:40 |
| dedery | and there're always races (went down during snapshot etc...) | 21:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Don't raise error when filtering on custom metadata https://review.openstack.org/307496 | 21:40 |
| mriedem | dedery: yeah, but that's a pretty small window isn't it? | 21:41 |
| dedery | depends on the size of the image... we usually do it on rhel (~3Gb) and it takes a few minutes | 21:41 |
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| lifeless | alaski: classmethod(new_value) should work too, no ? | 21:43 |
| lifeless | alaski: UnboundMethodType(new_value), FunctionType(new_value), I think. let me quickly check | 21:44 |
| melwitt | mriedem: what's the unconference process? anyone can put a bullet point proposal on the etherpad and we pick and choose them later? | 21:44 |
| alaski | lifeless: I finally found them, unboundmethodtype takes at least two args, functiontype as well | 21:44 |
| alaski | lifeless: if partial is left out the binding to the defining class/instance of new_value is lost | 21:45 |
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| alaski | I'm not sure why, because in theory classmethod is equivalent to the descriptor I added. But it wasn't working for me | 21:46 |
| mriedem | melwitt: i honestly don't know what johnthetubaguy did in the past | 21:46 |
| lifeless | alaski: huh, it did work for me | 21:46 |
| mriedem | melwitt: i guess i was just leaving it as first come first served in the slots | 21:46 |
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| lifeless | alaski: not to worry, I can fiddle locally if thats the only remaining bit | 21:47 |
| melwitt | mriedem: okay, cool. thanks | 21:47 |
| alaski | lifeless: okay, I'll get the type instantiations sorted out before I leave today if I can | 21:48 |
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| alaski | melwitt: mriedem that's what it was in the past as well | 21:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Victor Morales proposed openstack/nova: Use auth_type instead of auth_plugin https://review.openstack.org/307498 | 21:48 |
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| lifeless | UnboundMethodType = type(_C._m) # Same as MethodType | 21:49 |
| melwitt | alaski, mriedem: cool, thanks. wanted to make sure I tell someone the right thing if they're interested in an unconference time slot | 21:49 |
| lifeless | alaski: have a look at types.py in 2.x - we might be able to use that idiom to get the right type without a version check | 21:49 |
| lifeless | PyDoc_STRVAR(instancemethod_doc, | 21:50 |
| lifeless | "instancemethod(function, instance, class)\n\ | 21:50 |
| alaski | that's what I had been trying to find | 21:50 |
| lifeless | self None for unbound | 21:50 |
| alaski | help(types.UnboundMethodType) also exposed it | 21:51 |
| lifeless | UnboundMethodType(func, None, kls) | 21:51 |
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| lifeless | thats 2.x | 21:51 |
| lifeless | alaski: I've tossed a comment showing a 3.x transcript that may help. gotta run though, soz. | 21:53 |
| alaski | lifeless: cool. thanks. | 21:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Remove deprecated ability to load scheduler_host_manager from path https://review.openstack.org/307485 | 22:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Remove unused filter_class_names kwarg from get_filtered_hosts https://review.openstack.org/307503 | 22:02 |
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| dedery | mriedem: sgordon: the snapshot contains the data for both interfaces and if the PF that was down is back up (or if the VM that is spawn from the snapshot lands on a different compute in which the PF was always up), the new VM has two ports that are up | 22:26 |
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| dedery | and come to think of it, it's not surprising since the two ports needs to be created before nova boot anyway, the snapshot is just the image | 22:27 |
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| dedery | in that sense, rebuilding the sub-optimal VM will also solve the issue (after bringing the PF back up) | 22:27 |
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| dedery | i think that the real problem is not the snapshot but it's the in-ability to attach a port to an offline PF (which will be reflected as DOWN in the VM and UP when the PF will be back online) | 22:30 |
| dedery | but this is a libvirt issue... | 22:30 |
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| mriedem | dedery: what do you mean by the data for both interfaces are in the snapshot? | 22:33 |
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| dedery | i mean that the fact that the snapshot is taken while the PF is down doesn't change anything in the image to the point that if the PF is up the image will not support it (remove the ifcfg-xxx or something of that kind) | 22:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Remove unused rotation param from _do_snapshot_instance https://review.openstack.org/307513 | 22:36 |
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| mriedem | holy wow check queue is at 570 | 22:42 |
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| dedery | mriedem: come to think of it, i don't think that failing the snapshot is the correct approach here (your suggested flow). Think of the following scenario - I have a failed physical NIC that I need to replace. I have no way of performing a backup to my VM before shutting down the compute and replacing the failed NIC | 22:44 |
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| dedery | it seems to me that there should always be a way to snapshot a VM even if it results with a sub-optimal VM | 22:45 |
| dedery | you can always start a new VM from the snapshot and it'll work | 22:45 |
| mriedem | dedery: migrate the vm? | 22:47 |
| dedery | mriedem: yes, probably. but won't the hysterical app/vm manager would want to snapshot before making any radical changes? | 22:48 |
| dedery | I mean, the NIC is down. the VM is suboptimal by definition | 22:48 |
| mriedem | if you live migrate the vm why is it a radical change? | 22:49 |
| mriedem | dedery: maybe post to the ML about this? my brain is a bit fried | 22:50 |
| mriedem | dedery: are we working around a limitation in libvirt/qemu by detaching the devices before doing the snapshot and then attaching them after? | 22:51 |
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| dedery | i'm not sure (asked myself the same thing when i started working on this). the only reasonable thing i thought of is the fact that somehow the VM needs to stop getting the traffic - but that's also solvable by shutting down the VFs. So I have no clue here | 22:53 |
| mriedem | probably a question for sahid or moshele or danpb | 22:54 |
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| dedery | np about posting to the ML and start a discussion. as for the radical change - it's my personal experience flavored with the QA requests that leads me to think that any change in an application's topology will require as much escape routes as possible | 22:56 |
| dedery | and snapshot is one of them of course | 22:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove 40X and 50X from Normal response codes https://review.openstack.org/307520 | 23:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Remove 40X and 50X from Normal response codes https://review.openstack.org/307520 | 23:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Specify normal status code on os-baremetal-nodes https://review.openstack.org/307522 | 23:56 |
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