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| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: Add metadata objects for device tagging https://review.openstack.org/264015 | 01:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: Add compute manager device tagging support https://review.openstack.org/264017 | 02:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: Libvirt driver implementation of device tagging https://review.openstack.org/264016 | 02:30 |
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| tobasco | need reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200870/11 and it's related patch | 06:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: [POC] Allow user defined stop https://review.openstack.org/298221 | 06:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova: Add message queue switching through RequestContext https://review.openstack.org/274955 | 06:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Allen Gao proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralize xenapi torrent options https://review.openstack.org/298579 | 07:39 |
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| bauzas | good morning Nova | 07:47 |
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| markus_z | alex_xu: you got a minute? | 07:51 |
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| alex_xu | markus_z: hi, yes, i'm here | 08:01 |
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| markus_z | alex_xu: It's about bug 1550250 | 08:02 |
| openstack | bug 1550250 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "migrate in-use status volume, the volume's "delete_on_termination" flag lost" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1550250 - Assigned to YaoZheng_ZTE (zheng-yao1) | 08:02 |
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| alex_xu | markus_z: yes | 08:02 |
| markus_z | Who's driving the discussion if we want to fix this? | 08:02 |
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| markus_z | Nova meeting? ML? | 08:02 |
| alex_xu | markus_z: ML, I think | 08:03 |
| markus_z | You -2'ed from an API perspective, I guess? | 08:04 |
| alex_xu | markus_z: yes | 08:04 |
| alex_xu | markus_z: for the api perspective, nova-api meeting is also good place. But for whether we need fix it, I feel it should be more generic | 08:05 |
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| markus_z | alex_xu: OK, I'll ask around. Thanks | 08:06 |
| alex_xu | markus_z: np | 08:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: [POC] Allow user defined stop https://review.openstack.org/298221 | 08:33 |
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| bauzas | ndipanov: danpb: morning, just reviewing the RC3 bugfixes, it seems https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296305/2 is providing a new PS | 08:41 |
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| bauzas | could you please look at that? | 08:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Shiina, Hironori proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox from tests/functional/api_sample_tests/test_cells.py https://review.openstack.org/298604 | 08:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: Virt: add context to attach and detach interface https://review.openstack.org/209362 | 08:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Allen Gao proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralize xenapi torrent options https://review.openstack.org/298579 | 09:13 |
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| bauzas | markus_z: morning | 09:15 |
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| markus_z | bauzas: hey, good morning | 09:15 |
| bauzas | markus_z: we have a bunch of untriaged bugs this morning (thanks Easter period), trying to circle over those to see if regressions | 09:15 |
| bauzas | but I'm pretty slow at that | 09:16 |
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| markus_z | bauzas: I need 5 minutes, then I can help there. | 09:17 |
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| bauzas | markus_z: sure, thanks | 09:17 |
| markus_z | bauzas: The nova-bugs team meeting is in ~40 minutes. Maybe some folks are there to help too. | 09:17 |
| bauzas | markus_z: oh good point, I'll pop up there | 09:17 |
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| PaulMurray | good morning all - very quiet today | 09:22 |
| allen_gao | PaulMurray, good morning | 09:23 |
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| markus_z | bauzas: I added the most recent bugs to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-bugs-team | 09:26 |
| markus_z | bauzas: I add my name to those where I start investigating | 09:26 |
| markus_z | bauzas: To avoid that we have an overlap | 09:26 |
| bauzas | markus_z: okay | 09:26 |
| bauzas | markus_z: tbc, we have some bugs, but I want to make sure those are not regressions | 09:27 |
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| markus_z | nova-bugs team meeting in 30 minutes in #openstack-meeting-4. New contributors are welcome as well. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova/BugsTeam | 09:30 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: morning | 09:35 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: do you remember the story with naming device names ? what was the consensus out of it ? there is a related bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1560965 | 09:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1560965 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "libvirt selects wrong root device name" [Undecided,New] | 09:36 |
| bauzas | basically, I know that naming a device is probably the bad way to do it, but what's the meaning of that, I dunno | 09:37 |
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| PaulMurray | bauzas, devices names are not respected, so even if you supply one it will be replaced by the one that gets assigned | 09:39 |
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| bauzas | PaulMurray: I remember that, but why are we still providing this option to the API if that doesn't work ? | 09:40 |
| bauzas | PaulMurray: because it's only libvirt ? | 09:40 |
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| PaulMurray | do you mean in the virt driver api or in the nova api ? | 09:40 |
| bauzas | PaulMurray: sorry, the nova rest api | 09:41 |
| bauzas | PaulMurray: we expose that possibility | 09:41 |
| PaulMurray | backward compat afaik | 09:41 |
| bauzas | okay | 09:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: yeah, what PaulMurray said is my memory of it too | 09:42 |
| bauzas | something we can then modify by a microversion then, if libvirt is the only virt driver using this and this not good | 09:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | its not the same for all drivers | 09:42 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: you mean it works for the other drivers ? | 09:42 |
| bauzas | yet again another good opportunity for me reviewing the Feature Classification effort then :) | 09:43 |
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| bauzas | another fun story too https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1560210 | 09:43 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1560210 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Resize server up failed when server's diskConfig option is Manual" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 09:43 |
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| PaulMurray | bauzas, saw that one just now - you're right, shouldn't migrate between virt types | 09:46 |
| bauzas | I marked the bug as incomplete for completeness, but it would be given an Invalid probably | 09:46 |
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| alex_xu | bauzas: remember this is some doc about the device_name http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/block_device_mapping.html#intermezzo-problem-with-device-names | 09:53 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: great pointer, thanks | 09:53 |
| alex_xu | bauzas: np | 09:53 |
| bauzas | "It is also required for some (slightly obscure) features " ROFL | 09:54 |
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| alex_xu | bauzas: :) | 09:56 |
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| cdent | p!spy | 09:58 |
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| markus_z | nova-bugs team meeting in #openstack-meeting-4. New contributors are welcome as well. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova/BugsTeam | 09:59 |
| cdent | tbachman: it's p!<the command> not py! | 10:00 |
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| PaulMurray | bauzas, fyi depending on the bus type used in a host the storage devices may come up in an undefined order that can be different between two boots - so when an operating system discovers the devices and gives them names, they can come up with different names | 10:03 |
| PaulMurray | bauzas, that's on a real baremetal server ^^ | 10:04 |
| bauzas | PaulMurray: yeah makes sense | 10:04 |
| PaulMurray | so generally relying on device names is considered unreliable | 10:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Pawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: Cold migrate using the RequestSpec object https://review.openstack.org/284974 | 10:07 |
| tangchen | hi, all. May I ask a proxy question here ? I have a multi region openstack environment in a private cloud. e.g. regionA and regionB. But my client cannot connect to them directly because they are in different c | 10:09 |
| tangchen | ities. We don't have a network to connect them directly. Is there any way I can set up a proxy server, and my client connencts to the proxy, and send request to the proxy. And the proxy has the ability to route | 10:09 |
| tangchen | the request to the correct retion. | 10:09 |
| tangchen | hi, all. May I ask a proxy question here ? I have a multi region openstack environment in a private cloud. e.g. regionA and regionB. But my client cannot connect to them directly because they are in different cities. We don't have a network to connect them directly. Is there any way I can set up a proxy server, and my client connencts to the proxy, and send request to the proxy. And the proxy has the ability to route the request to the correct | 10:09 |
| tangchen | retion ? | 10:09 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: yeah, some drivers till do best effort, given it kinda works, and user rely on it | 10:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | tangchen: I would try on #openstack and operators channels | 10:12 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tangchen: for dev use cases, I tend to look at ssh port tunneling | 10:12 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: just to be sure, we can +W this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297467/5/nova/conf/ironic.py ? | 10:13 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I mean, re: StringFreeze ? | 10:13 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: given we branched Mitaka | 10:13 |
| markus_z | bauzas: I'm going to lunch and then check bugs again | 10:13 |
| bauzas | markus_z: ack | 10:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: so master is not on string freeze at all now | 10:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | only stable/mitaka | 10:14 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: okay, makes sense, just wanted to make sure that the i18n was working on the branch | 10:14 |
| bauzas | i18n team | 10:14 |
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| bauzas | ie. what we upload to zanata | 10:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: cool, I believe thats all working like that already | 10:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | their tools sounds quite good for that kind of thing | 10:16 |
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| bauzas | "postponed until the next series development opens (which should happen when RC1 is published). " | 10:16 |
| bauzas | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StringFreeze#.28Soft.29_String_Freeze | 10:16 |
| bauzas | I take that as a yes | 10:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, we are all good | 10:16 |
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| johnthetubaguy | stable is on a hard freeze, master is open | 10:17 |
| bauzas | coolness | 10:18 |
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| bauzas | garyk: morning | 10:24 |
| bauzas | garyk: I'm triaging bugs, and I found this https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1562266 that I'm tempted to mark Invalid because resize implies rescheduling | 10:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1562266 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "VMware: resize instance change instance's hypervisor_hostname" [Undecided,New] | 10:25 |
| bauzas | garyk: that said, the reporter mentions a cluster name which is not correct, is this normal ? | 10:25 |
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| PaulMurray | markus_z, I saw your ML message http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/090684.html | 10:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Allen Gao proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralize xenapi torrent options https://review.openstack.org/298579 | 10:38 |
| PaulMurray | markus_z, I'll bring it up in our meeting today - are there any other bugs like that on Live migration that jump to mind ? | 10:39 |
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| ndipanov | danpb, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262583/21 responded here | 10:59 |
| ndipanov | do you think a custom exception makes sense here | 10:59 |
| ndipanov | danpb, it may end up being a thing you need to support in os-vif | 10:59 |
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| danpb | ndipanov: doesn't matter really - the code will totally change | 11:01 |
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| ndipanov | in that case - random exception subclass coming up :) | 11:02 |
| markus_z | PaulMurray: That's the only one I have in mind right now. Maybe auggy knows more, she skimmed the bugs in the last weeks. | 11:02 |
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| garyk | bauzas: the resise should be done on the same host. I am not sure why you marked it as invalid, its tsill abug | 11:03 |
| bauzas | garyk: the resize is a scheduling operation | 11:04 |
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| bauzas | garyk: which implies a move from one host to another | 11:04 |
| garyk | bauzas: in the VC driver it does an inplace resize of the instance. It does not need to move a host. Say for example you want to change the amount of CPUs from X to Y. Yes, you need to check if the scheduler has the available resources. But | 11:05 |
| garyk | the scheduler should 'know' that the placement is on the same host. Hence there is the configuration option | 11:05 |
| bauzas | garyk: see my comment, you'll find that I said about the allow_resize_to_same_host | 11:06 |
| bauzas | garyk: so, the VC driver is not behaving like the other drivers? meh | 11:06 |
| garyk | why meh? that does not help | 11:07 |
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| garyk | the VC driver is able to resize without creating a new instance on a different host | 11:07 |
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| PaulMurray | danpb, I've been thinking about vm monitoring outside of nova - I want to get a pretty much synchronous call to the monitor with VM life cycle operations so it knows when to start/stop monitoring and wondered if this could/should be thought of as something the virt driver does - any thoughts on this before ? | 11:08 |
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| PaulMurray | garyk, I assume VC might do something like this already ^^ | 11:09 |
| garyk | PaulMurray: yes. There is a VC plugin call VROPS that does monitoring of instances life cycles. I like the idea of the virt driver | 11:11 |
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| garyk | sorry, the plugin is a VC plugin and not an openstack one | 11:11 |
| garyk | it would be nice if it was part of openstack | 11:12 |
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| bauzas | garyk: sorry, had to step off the keyboard for a moment | 11:14 |
| bauzas | garyk: so, my question is : what if the operator doesn't see allow_resize_to_same_host to True with a VC deployment ? | 11:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: added multiple files to show what index building would look like https://review.openstack.org/298670 | 11:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: fix close buttons https://review.openstack.org/298671 | 11:16 |
| bauzas | garyk: in that case, the selected destination will be a different compute node, right? so my point is : given the proxy model of the VMWare driver, what happens ? | 11:16 |
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| danpb | PaulMurray: i'm not sure what you mean by "synchronous call to the monitor with VM life cycle operations" ? | 11:16 |
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| bauzas | PaulMurray: not sure I get you ? why not using event notifications ? | 11:17 |
| PaulMurray | danpb, for example: so the monitor knows to stop monitoring before the VM is stopped | 11:17 |
| PaulMurray | bauzas, yes, notifications is an alternative, but they don't necessarily get through | 11:17 |
| garyk | bauzas: if the selected host points to the same VC/cluster (which is possible) then it will work. If it is another one then it fail asthe driver will not know of the instance. | 11:18 |
| PaulMurray | its is perfectly plausible for one queue to be blocked while another continues | 11:18 |
| PaulMurray | the idea is to make something more reliable | 11:18 |
| danpb | PaulMurray: why does it matter that you stop monitoring before the vm is stopped | 11:18 |
| danpb | PaulMurray: that is impossible to achieve in general because the guest admin can stop the VM at any time | 11:19 |
| bauzas | garyk: so, given the deployment is shard between 2 clusters, it necessarly needs CONF.allow_resize_to_same_host=True in order to work seamlessly? | 11:19 |
| danpb | PaulMurray: so even libvirt doesn't know that its stopping ahead of time | 11:19 |
| garyk | bauzas: yes, that is advisible. | 11:19 |
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| bauzas | garyk: in that case, see the bug report | 11:19 |
| bauzas | garyk: the reporter mentions two clusters | 11:19 |
| garyk | what we have discovered is that if there is a hybrid environment then things break with the scheduler | 11:19 |
| garyk | but that is orthogonal | 11:20 |
| danpb | PaulMurray: all lifecycle events emitted by libvirt are asynchronous to the operations that cause the lifecycle changes | 11:20 |
| PaulMurray | danpb, yes, true - I want the monitor to know that nova asked for the vm to stop | 11:20 |
| bauzas | garyk: so, lemme assume 2 things | 11:20 |
| danpb | IMHO you should just react to nova vm status changes | 11:20 |
| bauzas | garyk: #1 the reporter has 2 VC clusters | 11:20 |
| garyk | bauzas: i looked at the bug report. i still do not think that it is invalid. what if there is more than one host and they have the same cluster configured (which is legit) it provides HA | 11:20 |
| bauzas | garyk: #2 the reporter didn't know of the CONF.allow_resize_to_same_host opt and left it defaulted (to False) | 11:20 |
| danpb | even if you check status ahead of time you have a time-of-check-to-time-use race condition where the status changes between the time you check & the time you do your monitoring | 11:21 |
| garyk | bauzas: for some reason they want it to be different hosts. | 11:21 |
| bauzas | garyk: okay, so at least it should be mark incomplete, we're missing information here | 11:21 |
| garyk | i do not recall why and he did not provide the details on the bug. | 11:21 |
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| garyk | so you can set the state to incomplete, but i do not think that its invalid | 11:21 |
| PaulMurray | danpb, it could be used to restart the vm - not sure if Nova wants to get into doing that | 11:21 |
| bauzas | garyk: I totally get the idea of the HA thing, but please know that Ironic suffered from that | 11:21 |
| bauzas | garyk: one of the reasons why we want to deprecate the host/node relationship and only allow one node per n-cpu service | 11:22 |
| bauzas | garyk: although VC is behaving a bit differently, rgiht ? | 11:22 |
| garyk | bauzas: the VC driver now has a 1:1 relation ship. | 11:22 |
| bauzas | you're not leaking the cluster nodes into nova nodes | 11:22 |
| bauzas | yeah that | 11:23 |
| garyk | bauzas: sadly that shiop has sailed and it is for the scheudling part. we tried to change that years ago but the community blocked it. so we we gave up and live with the status quo | 11:23 |
| bauzas | yeah, I understood, you can have one n-cpu that shows the whole cluster resources | 11:23 |
| bauzas | now the problem is with 2 n-cpus sharing the same cluster resources for HA things | 11:24 |
| garyk | bauzas: and that is something that is completely legit | 11:24 |
| garyk | bauzas: and that works due to the node support and there are no 'double' counts | 11:24 |
| bauzas | garyk: for that, we're working on resource-providers epic | 11:24 |
| bauzas | in order to make sure that shared resources are not counted twice | 11:24 |
| garyk | cool | 11:24 |
| PaulMurray | danpb, I'm basically thinking about something like a plugin to allow a VM to be monitored and possibly restarted at libvirt level | 11:24 |
| garyk | but they are not counted twice | 11:24 |
| bauzas | well, I commented fast | 11:25 |
| PaulMurray | danpb, driven by nova's vm lifecycle | 11:25 |
| garyk | in libvirt if you have shared storage then that may be counted twice by different compute nodes | 11:25 |
| PaulMurray | danpb, but not sure how that would integrate | 11:25 |
| bauzas | garyk: for all the problems that come with the fact of having a shared resource between two nova compute nodes | 11:25 |
| garyk | distribnuted locking :) | 11:26 |
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| PaulMurray | danpb, but want it to be local and more reliable than rabbit messaging | 11:26 |
| danpb | PaulMurray: starting a VM at the libvirt level when its owned by Nova is a really bad idea imho | 11:26 |
| danpb | any starting/stopping of VMs must be via the nova apis | 11:27 |
| danpb | to ensure nova correctly tracks & allocates resources as needed | 11:27 |
| PaulMurray | danpb, why not have libvirt virt driver keep a vm up when nova has asked for it to be there ? | 11:28 |
| bauzas | anyway, /me goes afk for lunch | 11:28 |
| garyk | bon apetite | 11:28 |
| danpb | PaulMurray: if the VM has stopped, nova will have seen that and potentially invoked cleanup operations such as releasing network & storage resources | 11:29 |
| danpb | so you can't assume you can just start it again by talking directly to libvirt | 11:29 |
| tangchen | johnthetubaguy: OK, thank you very much for the info. :) | 11:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: neutron: pci_request logic considers 'direct-physical' vnic type https://review.openstack.org/262584 | 11:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: pci: Add utility method for getting the MAC addr https://review.openstack.org/262585 | 11:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: neutron: Update the port with a MAC address for PFs https://review.openstack.org/262586 | 11:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: Add a vnic type for PF passthrough and a new libvirt vif driver https://review.openstack.org/262583 | 11:31 |
| ndipanov | danpb, ^ | 11:31 |
| PaulMurray | danpb, when you say "nova sees it stop" do you mean because the virt driver tells it or are you thinking of an other kind of notification ? | 11:32 |
| danpb | PaulMurray: nova listens to lifecycle events from libvirt to detect when a VM stops | 11:33 |
| garyk | any chance that a core can please look at https://review.openstack.org/284121 - it has good karma from the vmware team | 11:33 |
| PaulMurray | danpb, right, so what if something in that path had the option to restart ? | 11:33 |
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| danpb | well we'd have to figure out what that means - as a general rule we don't add this kind of functionality if it only exists to help out of tree plugins | 11:36 |
| danpb | so i think we need to understand what it means to nova in terms of feature support - if it happens to help your external monitoring app as a bonus then fine | 11:38 |
| PaulMurray | danpb, I understand. I'm trying to feel my way into this at the moment. I need to grab some lunch - I'll think a bit and might put a message on ML | 11:39 |
| PaulMurray | danpb, thanks | 11:39 |
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| tbachman | cdent: thanks — I guess I’ve been dabbling in the world of python a bit too much :P | 11:40 |
| tbachman | lol | 11:40 |
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| cdent | :) | 11:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: move graphic/serial consoles check at pre_live_migration https://review.openstack.org/254709 | 11:44 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: live_migration_flags/block_migration_flags default to 0 https://review.openstack.org/295933 | 11:44 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add "get_job_info" to Guest's object https://review.openstack.org/250740 | 11:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add method to configure max downtime when migrating https://review.openstack.org/250739 | 11:44 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add "abort_job" to Guest's object https://review.openstack.org/250738 | 11:44 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add method "migrate" to Guest's object https://review.openstack.org/250365 | 11:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: handle reserved pages size https://review.openstack.org/292500 | 11:56 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: virt: reserved number of mempages on compute host https://review.openstack.org/292499 | 11:56 |
| sahid | johnthetubaguy: can you remove -2s on thoce two series .. | 11:58 |
| sahid | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/libvirt-clean-driver | 11:58 |
| sahid | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/virt-configure-usb-tablet-from-image | 11:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | sahid: I thought I did already, twice, are these previously abandoned patches that are back to life? I will dig more closely after my lunch | 11:59 |
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| sahid | johnthetubaguy: from what i can remember you did that once, and now yes i un-abandonned some patches | 12:06 |
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| sahid | first time i asked you but you did not want since that was related to bp with spec-less | 12:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: TrivialFix: removed unnecessary cycle in servicegroup/test_api.py https://review.openstack.org/298693 | 12:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Add console log offset https://review.openstack.org/292473 | 12:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Live migration of instances https://review.openstack.org/270116 | 12:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: neutron: pci_request logic considers 'direct-physical' vnic type https://review.openstack.org/262584 | 12:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: pci: Add utility method for getting the MAC addr https://review.openstack.org/262585 | 12:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: neutron: Update the port with a MAC address for PFs https://review.openstack.org/262586 | 12:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: Add a vnic type for PF passthrough and a new libvirt vif driver https://review.openstack.org/262583 | 12:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Live migration of instances https://review.openstack.org/270116 | 12:45 |
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| markus_z | bauzas: I skimmed the recent bugs and didn't find a hint that they are a regression. | 12:53 |
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| bauzas | markus_z: fair, me too | 12:55 |
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| markus_z | PaulMurray: The only other recent bug report I found, somehow related to migration, is https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1562681 Just to make you aware of that. | 12:55 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1562681 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "instance evacuate without image's metadata" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to guo.lei (403554373-w) | 12:55 |
| PaulMurray | markus_z, thanks | 12:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Cleanup NovaObjectDictCompat from BandwidthUsage https://review.openstack.org/263638 | 13:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Cleanup NovaObjectDictCompat from NumaTopology https://review.openstack.org/260016 | 13:22 |
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| sarafraj | good morning | 13:26 |
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| gibi | rlrossit: hi! | 13:28 |
| rlrossit | hey gibi! | 13:28 |
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| gibi | rlrossit: I guess utc 17:00 is still your lunchtime | 13:28 |
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| gibi | rlrossit: we haven't agreed a new time for the notificaiton meeting yet | 13:29 |
| rlrossit | yeah. are we planning on moving them back to weekly now that newton has started? or will we change that after summit? | 13:30 |
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| dansmith | alaski: check this out: http://logs.openstack.org/52/298452/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/a2d87e7/logs/screen-n-api.txt.gz#_2016-03-28_22_39_32_116 | 13:32 |
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| dansmith | alaski: unless I'm missing it, we're not inserting id | 13:32 |
| gibi | rlrossit: based on the current content I have I don't feel we need to have it weekly now. After the summit (or after the approval of the spec :) ) might make sense to change it to weekly | 13:33 |
| rlrossit | agreed. and honestly, you can go ahead and keep meeting without me for now, my work with notifications isn't that big of a deal, I finally got to reviewing your spec yesterday | 13:34 |
| alaski | dansmith: I don't see it either | 13:34 |
| alaski | dansmith: I had been wondering how db engines would handle the autoincrement key if some values were forced in there | 13:34 |
| gibi | rlrossit: thanks for the review, I answered your concerns. | 13:34 |
| alaski | dansmith: seems like postgres doesn't like it | 13:34 |
| dansmith | alaski: but we're not providing the autoincrement key right? | 13:34 |
| sahid | mriedem: about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284095/ i replied to you and i'm not sure we can do something good here, but i'll let you reply on the review | 13:35 |
| alaski | dansmith: I guess I'm assuming that it's set when flavors are migrated | 13:35 |
| alaski | I should check | 13:35 |
| gibi | rlrossit: if you are not joining then I think I will cancel today's meeting as basically we will have close to zero participation. Let's see if I can gather people for this cause in the summit | 13:35 |
| dansmith | alaski: oh, you mean you think we've used an autoincrementing value and now postgres is trying to use that blindly? | 13:35 |
| alaski | dansmith: yeah, that's my guess | 13:36 |
| rlrossit | gibi: +1 | 13:36 |
| dansmith | alaski: that's crazypants | 13:36 |
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| gibi | cdent: just a heads up, today's notification meeting is cancelled. | 13:36 |
| cdent | thanks gibi | 13:36 |
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| sfinucan | markus_z: You here? | 13:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Rossiter proposed openstack/nova: Add tests for floating_ip private functions https://review.openstack.org/267768 | 13:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Rossiter proposed openstack/nova: Remove DictCompat from FixedIP https://review.openstack.org/265951 | 13:37 |
| sdague | iirc there is something you need to do to pg to tell it where to start incrementing agian | 13:37 |
| alaski | dansmith: so this may be crazypants, postgres apparently doesn't do autoincrement like mysql | 13:37 |
| alaski | sdague: yeah, just found something alluding to that | 13:37 |
| sdague | but that's really really old cob webs in my head | 13:37 |
| dansmith | alaski: yeah, finding some stuff about it | 13:37 |
| alaski | https://www.scriptscribe.org/databases/the-postgres-equivalent-of-mysqls-auto_increment/ | 13:37 |
| sdague | however, I do think this opens up a bigger issue about depending on autoincrement indexes for things across dbs | 13:38 |
| gibi | cdent: if you have anyithing to raise, you can ping me here :) | 13:38 |
| sdague | could we convert this over to a UUID during this process instead? | 13:39 |
| sdague | then we wouldn't have to rely on db magic internals to get things lined up | 13:39 |
| alaski | that would massively increase the scale of the migration because all relations would need to update | 13:39 |
| sdague | it would | 13:40 |
| dansmith | yeah | 13:40 |
| dansmith | alaski: so I think I can do this in the migrate process: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10494033/setting-sqlalchemy-autoincrement-start-value | 13:40 |
| mriedem | sahid: ok, i'll try to take a look this morning | 13:40 |
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| sahid | mriedem: cool, thanks for the time you're passing on it | 13:41 |
| alaski | dansmith: cool | 13:42 |
| sdague | dansmith: that does assume the sqla maps that out to every db backend correctly, right? | 13:42 |
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| dansmith | sdague: I don't think it does any translation on DDL statements | 13:42 |
| alaski | sdague: I've set up tables with foreign keys to uuids before and had people push back and tell me to link to the id instead. so it's something we would need to clear up in a wider audience | 13:43 |
| alaski | there's some performance tradeoff involved | 13:43 |
| dansmith | alaski: right, we have lots of extra translation tables to make the resource pools stuff work with uuids | 13:43 |
| sdague | alaski: there a performance trade off | 13:43 |
| mriedem | sahid: ah yeah i forgot that we've already cast off when we return the response for server create | 13:43 |
| mriedem | so we don't know if the default security group was added or not | 13:43 |
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| sdague | however, we've got a ton of that already, which has not seemed to become a big enough issue for anyone to address, so it might just be well below our threshold for the amount of data we push around | 13:44 |
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| sdague | putting custom per db ddl into nova... just seems concerning | 13:45 |
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| alaski | we've done a bit of that already as well | 13:45 |
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| sahid | mriedem: yes and then that field does not provide a true value is several other cases when we boot an instance so... | 13:47 |
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| alaski | sdague: I agree in principle, but I'm less concerned here because it's a data migration and not something in the table definition | 13:47 |
| mriedem | sahid: i left some more comments/ideas | 13:47 |
| sahid | we might want to fix it in an other patche i guess | 13:47 |
| sahid | ok looking | 13:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Don't misuse InstanceNotFound exception https://review.openstack.org/290706 | 13:48 |
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| mriedem | HenryG: this raises a question about the get-me-a-network spec, will the network that's allocated for the project have port_security_enabled? | 13:49 |
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| HenryG | mriedem: I would think not, but let me confirm | 13:50 |
| garyk | would it be possible to please beg for a review - it has decent karma from the vmware team - https://review.openstack.org/284121 | 13:50 |
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| mriedem | not it! | 13:51 |
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| sahid | mriedem: hum i thought about your idea to enhance network API with something like 'requires_security_groups' but what we return if two networks; one with and the other without | 13:52 |
| mriedem | garyk: when does the vmware ci start using the actual nsxv3 neutron plugin rather than nova-network? | 13:52 |
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| mriedem | sahid: in that case i think you'd say it does require security groups | 13:52 |
| mriedem | since at least one network that's attached requires security groups | 13:52 |
| mriedem | i understand the cardinality in the server create response isn't accurate for multinic | 13:53 |
| garyk | mriedem: we are in the process of doing that. it will be in a few weeks. | 13:53 |
| mriedem | garyk: cool | 13:53 |
| garyk | mriedem: we are trying to figure out how to run it in a hybrid setup - we weill need to run tests with different iamges. | 13:54 |
| garyk | the configuration is alittle tricky | 13:54 |
| mriedem | hybrid in that you still plan on running with nova-network? | 13:54 |
| garyk | mriedem: no, kvm + vc drivers | 13:54 |
| garyk | that is, both virt drivers will be tested if an instance is spun up on one it will have conenctivty to an instance spun up on the other | 13:55 |
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| mriedem | garyk: why would the vmware ci be running kvm? | 13:55 |
| garyk | mriedem: the nsxv3 is a networking solution that works with all virt drivers. | 13:56 |
| mriedem | garyk: sure, but are people going to use that with kvm? | 13:56 |
| garyk | so we would like to have it run with kvm too to check that we do not have any brakages | 13:56 |
| garyk | mriedem: yes, of course | 13:56 |
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| mriedem | alright, it's your show | 13:56 |
| mriedem | i just figured the vmware ci would be straight vmware backends for storage/compute/networking | 13:56 |
| garyk | mriedem: its a little more than that. the networking part can work with all virt drivers. for a start we will start with the vmware VC driver and then expand it to other drivers | 13:57 |
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| HenryG | mriedem: the auto-allocated network will not have port-security enabled. The port-security extension may not be enabled, so we can't depend on it. | 13:58 |
| HenryG | mriedem: why did you ask? | 13:58 |
| PaulMurray | live migration meeting on #openstack-meeting-3 PaulMurray paul-carlton2 eliqiao shaohe_feng pkoniszewski jlanoux yuntongjin mdbooth kashyap kmartin claudiub tobasco tdurakov scheuran | 13:58 |
| mriedem | garyk: ok, i just figured it was going to be straight vmware in the stack since things like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284121/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292408/ are very tightly coupled together | 13:58 |
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| mriedem | HenryG: because sahid and i were talking about how to handle the fact that the nova server create API response puts the 'default' security group in it even if we don't apply security groups, in this change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284095/ | 13:59 |
| mriedem | HenryG: this is the server POST part where it's adding the 'default' security group to the response https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/security_groups.py#L475 | 14:00 |
| garyk | mriedem: thankfully the kvm integrations have not required any changes. that is due to the fact that on the kvm side it works according to the port id. | 14:00 |
| garyk | on the VC side those changes will only land end of 2016. so we need to configure the network part on the VC… sorry | 14:00 |
| mriedem | HenryG: with sahid's fix, he's checking if the network has port_security_enabled=False and if so, doesn't apply security groups, but the server API response has already returned saying it's going to use the 'default' security group | 14:00 |
| mriedem | HenryG: problem being, the API response comes back before we've cast off to the compute to setup networking | 14:01 |
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| mriedem | HenryG: which got me thinking about auto-allocate-topology on the compute and whether or not the network it creates for us would have port_security_enabled | 14:01 |
| sahid | mriedem: i'm going to report a new issue in launchpad against this case because even with my fix, the field is set 'default' whereas the network may have other security groups defined to it | 14:02 |
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| HenryG | mriedem: OK, let me get past a couple of meetings, then I will try to wrap my brain around this problem. | 14:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: DNM: Canary to sniff out what postgres' problem is https://review.openstack.org/298452 | 14:02 |
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| mriedem | sahid: well, https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/security_groups.py#L475 is just adding 'default' if no security group was specified on the request | 14:03 |
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| mriedem | sahid: i haven't tested the case that i actually boot an instance with neutron and specify a custom security group to see what's returned, but it should be the same one that's on the request | 14:03 |
| mriedem | sahid: unless of course network.port_security_enabled=False | 14:04 |
| mriedem | + your fix | 14:04 |
| sahid | hum so if we have a network with secgroups A and B, then start an instance attached to that network, the reponse will be 'default' | 14:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Add rest stanzas sphinx extension https://review.openstack.org/292420 | 14:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: Add sample API content https://review.openstack.org/298763 | 14:04 |
| mriedem | sahid: doesn't neutron automatically apply a default security group to a port when port_security_enabled=True anyway? | 14:05 |
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| sahid | mriedem: in all case we can still update that network to remove it and use other | 14:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Add console log offset https://review.openstack.org/292473 | 14:06 |
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| mriedem | sahid: ok i'm going to play around with neutron a bit, we might need to take this to the mailing list | 14:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Config options: Centralize netconf options https://review.openstack.org/294312 | 14:13 |
| danpb | dansmith: you might want to give an opinion on the versioned notifications spec here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286675/4/specs/newton/approved/versioned-notification-transformation.rst | 14:13 |
| dansmith | danpb: okay | 14:14 |
| danpb | dansmith: as i'm suggesting we should keep notification objects completely separate from internal nova objects | 14:14 |
| sahid | mriedem: yeah ok, actually i think this field is really confusing when used with neutron | 14:14 |
| danpb | (line 306) | 14:14 |
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| mriedem | sahid: i agree | 14:14 |
| mriedem | sahid: the rest api wasn't really written with neutron in mind, obviously | 14:14 |
| sahid | mriedem: yes | 14:14 |
| dansmith | danpb: okay, this is new for newton, right? | 14:14 |
| rqw | danpb: do you have some time to check the newest patches about perf/cmt support in libvirt? according to your comments on previous version, there are just small problems and I updated it and rebased it again yesterday. Thanks! | 14:15 |
| danpb | dansmith: yeah looks like it | 14:15 |
| danpb | rqw: i merged it this morning | 14:15 |
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| danpb | dansmith: although some prep work was done in mitaka iiuc | 14:15 |
| rqw | danpb: sorry, I didn't notice it. thanks very much!! ^-^ | 14:16 |
| dansmith | danpb: just FYI, I was against the amount of separation we currently have between the objects | 14:16 |
| dansmith | danpb: I get what you're saying and why, but I'll have to do some thinking on it | 14:16 |
| danpb | ok no prob - just thought you'd likely have an opinion | 14:17 |
| alaski | I would also like to see object separation here | 14:17 |
| dansmith | alaski: I know you would, that's why I stopped arguing last time | 14:18 |
| alaski | but my reasoning was more around versioning, and notification consumers not needing to deal with a version bump because some remotable method signature changed | 14:18 |
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| danpb | i'm mostly concerned that take steps to make it hard to accidentally expose/leak internal objects into the public notification objects | 14:19 |
| dansmith | right, but I just want to be able to include the low-level object as the "debug info" field or something | 14:19 |
| dansmith | which I know is not popular | 14:19 |
| alaski | dansmith: I'm not against that, I just want version decoupling | 14:20 |
| dansmith | alaski: right, and the version of the notification object need not be tied to the other | 14:20 |
| alaski | yeah, I think that's where we landed | 14:20 |
| dansmith | i.e. the notification version doesn't need to bump when the debug object bumped | 14:20 |
| mriedem | sahid: i confirmed that at least if you boot an instance with a specific security group, it returns that in the server response | 14:21 |
| mriedem | | security_groups | empty-secgroup | | 14:21 |
| mriedem | sahid: i'll start a thread on the -dev list | 14:21 |
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| sahid | mriedem: you mean with nova boot --security-groups <empty-secgroup> ? | 14:22 |
| mriedem | sahid: yeah | 14:22 |
| sahid | ah yes because it's passed to the request | 14:22 |
| mriedem | yeah http://paste.openstack.org/show/492284/ | 14:22 |
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| alaski | dansmith: the big unanswered question in my mind is can we do major version bumps here? There's no way for consumers of notifications to indicate what version they way so if we bump an object and remove a field it's gone from notifications as well | 14:23 |
| alaski | unless we're planning on a notification per major object version, and keeping old object versions around | 14:24 |
| dansmith | alaski: major version bumps of what, our internal objects? | 14:24 |
| alaski | yes | 14:24 |
| dansmith | alaski: I'm saying if we include an internal object in a debug field, it's marked as "unstable" in some way, so we barf out the object but make no promises | 14:25 |
| sahid | mriedem: oh so yes, if we don't pass the security group to the request, nova we will ask neutron to create a port with 'default' in all cases | 14:25 |
| dansmith | I know that's a slippery slope, I just really wanted us to be able to do that for zero-impact debug from the outside | 14:25 |
| mriedem | sahid: yeah, without your change at least | 14:25 |
| sahid | so the problem is only with port_security_enabled=False | 14:25 |
| sahid | mriedem: exactly | 14:26 |
| mriedem | sahid: and from what i understand, nova doesn't even need to tell neutron to apply a 'default' security group because if port security is enabled, neuron already does that | 14:26 |
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| alaski | dansmith: I get that and see the usefulness. I'm just a bit jaded about versions at this point because we don't define them well and everyone has different ideas on what we can do with them | 14:27 |
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| sahid | mriedem: ok so let me see how i can fix that point | 14:27 |
| dansmith | alaski: okay | 14:27 |
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| mriedem | sahid: there is also a bunch of history around this kind of issue in the dev list, i'm reading over some of that now | 14:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: DNM: Canary to sniff out what postgres' problem is https://review.openstack.org/298452 | 14:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'utils' options https://review.openstack.org/298775 | 14:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'utils' options https://review.openstack.org/298776 | 14:29 |
| dansmith | alaski: danpb: I do think that a separate registry helps us avoid the case where someone tries to attack us by sending us notification objects that we should never *receive* | 14:30 |
| dansmith | because there are lots of objects proposed here and .. ugh, it'd be nice to keep those separate | 14:31 |
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| danpb | i can see it getting very confusing in code review because so many of the proposed object names give no hint that they're related to notifications | 14:32 |
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| dansmith | yeah | 14:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: DNM: Canary to sniff out what postgres' problem is https://review.openstack.org/298452 | 14:33 |
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| alaski | dansmith: danpb agreed. there seems to be quite a bit of value to be gained with separation | 14:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ma Wen Cheng proposed openstack/nova: This is My test script, don't merge https://review.openstack.org/298781 | 14:37 |
| sdague | it's probably also worth while to consider how the notifications will be documented if there is an expectation that folks are going to be depending on them more | 14:37 |
| sdague | that might help shape the conversation around what level of separation works well for supporting documentation | 14:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: enhance method to return pointer_model from image prop https://review.openstack.org/174854 | 14:38 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: deprecate use_usb_tablet in favor of pointer_model https://review.openstack.org/176242 | 14:38 |
| dansmith | sdague: a separate repository will certainly make it easier to auto-generate some docs too | 14:43 |
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| dansmith | we could do some docstringing on the actual objects and generate stuff from them, since we can list them programmatically | 14:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Luo Gangyi proposed openstack/nova: add a default value when get a key from dict in vmware driver https://review.openstack.org/298793 | 14:44 |
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| bauzas | does someone know how I could ask gerrit to give me a series where half the changes are already merged ? | 14:45 |
| bauzas | I mean, by having a list of changes, from the bottom to the last one | 14:45 |
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| bauzas | (ie. not just seeing the branch) | 14:46 |
| bauzas | I'm actually trying to catch-up dansmith's series :p | 14:46 |
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| sdague | bauzas: once gerrit has merged code, it doesn't track them the same way | 14:46 |
| sdague | so I'm not sure there is a good way to get that | 14:47 |
| bauzas | sdague: yeah, that's sad :( | 14:47 |
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| bauzas | I can try to use the branch and see the latest updated for the merged ones tho | 14:47 |
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| rdopiera | pkoniszewski: can I steal a moment of your time? | 14:50 |
| pkoniszewski | sure | 14:50 |
| rdopiera | pkoniszewski: I wonder if you know if this is abandoned? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185958/ | 14:50 |
| pkoniszewski | yeah, it should be | 14:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Improve 'monkey_patch' conf options documentation https://review.openstack.org/298796 | 14:51 |
| pkoniszewski | unfortunately it is not (i can't abandon it) | 14:51 |
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| rdopiera | pkoniszewski: anything I could do to push it forward? | 14:52 |
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| pkoniszewski | just let this patch die, it requires a bit different fix | 14:52 |
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| pkoniszewski | i was thinking of extending periodic task that is used to clean things up when vm is deleted during cold migration | 14:53 |
| pkoniszewski | but not sure about this | 14:53 |
| pkoniszewski | rdopiera: ^ | 14:53 |
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| rdopiera | pkoniszewski: I'm also thinking about handling this on the other side -- just ignoring the error if the vm is deleted | 14:54 |
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| rdopiera | as a quick fix, of course | 14:54 |
| mriedem | HenryG: looks like auto-allocated-topology does create the network with port_security_enabled=True http://paste.openstack.org/show/492288/ | 14:54 |
| mriedem | HenryG: which is maybe only the case if the 'Port Security' extension is enabled? | 14:55 |
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| jaypipes | morning everyone. | 14:56 |
| mriedem | hello jaypipes | 14:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.imagecache' options https://review.openstack.org/258984 | 14:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: DNM: Canary to sniff out what postgres' problem is https://review.openstack.org/298452 | 14:57 |
| pkoniszewski | rdopiera: for sure monitor should be aware that such situation may happen | 14:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'image_file_url' options https://review.openstack.org/298799 | 14:57 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: cdent has a good point about the idempotency of migrations in that one patch comment... | 14:58 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: trying to fix idempotency for all the migrations with a test would be way out of scope for that patch I think. | 14:58 |
| pkoniszewski | rdopiera: we definitely should get rid of this exception, but i don't know if just hiding it is a correct quick fix | 14:58 |
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| mriedem | jaypipes: i was just pointing it out, since it's in our policy docs on handling upgrades | 14:59 |
| * mriedem finds link | 14:59 | |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: thx for pointing it out. I am just asking whether you expect cdent to put a test in there that would blow up a bunch of other things? | 15:00 |
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| mriedem | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/upgrade.html#migration-policy | 15:00 |
| rdopiera | pkoniszewski: As long as the situation is not exceptional, there shouldn't be a warning, at least. It would be nice to also clean up the old data, of course, but that's a separate thing. Even if you do clean the data in a periodic task, you would still get the warning sometimes. | 15:00 |
| mriedem | no, i don't | 15:00 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: i suspect the idempotency rule is more about backports | 15:00 |
| dansmith | yep | 15:00 |
| mriedem | i.e. you add an index in mitaka and backport that to liberty | 15:00 |
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| jaypipes | cdent: can you just make that one migration idempotent then, please? and add a single test for that migration unmber? | 15:01 |
| jaypipes | number.. | 15:01 |
| dansmith | all our migrations are generally idempotent lately, | 15:01 |
| jaypipes | lately... :) | 15:01 |
| dansmith | although I have seen a few slip through | 15:01 |
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| dansmith | lately like since icehouse? | 15:01 |
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| pkoniszewski | rdopiera: thats right, it might be a good start | 15:02 |
| dansmith | guh, zuul's backlog is ~6600 | 15:04 |
| pkoniszewski | rdopiera: i'm going off in few minutes, so if you want to take care of it go ahead | 15:05 |
| rdopiera | pkoniszewski: I will try, thanks | 15:05 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: cdent: we're not going to be backporting that migration, so i don't feel too strongly about fixing it now | 15:05 |
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| markus_z | dhellmann: I'm going through some of the old stuff right now and saw this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/947261 Not sure if I understand which docs would be affected. | 15:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 947261 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "format command line app documentation using sphinx features" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 15:06 |
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| sdague | mriedem: the idempotency is also about the fact that for things like indexes, people field fix their deployments | 15:08 |
| sdague | and you don't want to kill them on upgrade if they do that | 15:08 |
| dansmith | yeah, although I think these are things that didn't exist before, or have data in them | 15:08 |
| dansmith | so I think we're okay | 15:08 |
| dansmith | BUT.. we should be better about that | 15:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova-specs: Copy console logs for block live migration https://review.openstack.org/298809 | 15:08 |
| dansmith | yeah, allocations, which still have nothing in them | 15:08 |
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| dansmith | you know what would be nice? | 15:09 |
| mriedem | yeah, this is all brand new stuff | 15:09 |
| dansmith | a bot that looks at a review and comments saying: | 15:09 |
| dansmith | "This contains an added index, so check for idempotency. Also, this contains a change to an object. Check this document for things to look out for." | 15:09 |
| dansmith | ...etc | 15:09 |
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| dansmith | we could automate detection of those cases a lot easier than we could automate enforcement | 15:10 |
| mriedem | sahid: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/090723.html | 15:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.imagecache' options https://review.openstack.org/258984 | 15:11 |
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| mriedem | jaypipes: can you drop the +2 on this while it's still being disussed? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284095/ | 15:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section: "glance" https://review.openstack.org/257153 | 15:15 |
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| sahid | mriedem: thanks for the heads-up | 15:16 |
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| cdent | jaypipes, mriedem: I was away fixing a stupid flat tire. What should I do where for what? | 15:27 |
| mriedem | cdent: meh, probably nothing in this case for the allocations table | 15:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: WIP: move to dedicated api-ref directory https://review.openstack.org/298823 | 15:29 |
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| cdent | mriedem: give me a shout if that changes. thanks. | 15:30 |
| sdague | mriedem, et al: in moving forward on the api-ref in rst work, what kind of artifacts do you want in tracking direction / progress ? | 15:30 |
| mriedem | sdague: specless bp is probably good enough | 15:31 |
| sdague | mriedem: ok, cool | 15:31 |
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| sdague | the only other thing, folks fine with a new top level api-ref directory in the nova tree? We're going to need this to be separate from the docs/ and the api-guide/ publish, and that's what anne suggested for naming | 15:32 |
| sdague | which is basically - https://review.openstack.org/298823 | 15:32 |
| sahid | dansmith: i think you might want to look at this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292499/ | 15:33 |
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| sdague | mriedem: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/api-ref-in-rst | 15:36 |
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| cdent | sdague: I reckon dedicated directory is a win | 15:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Chuck Carmack proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Change the nova tempest blacklist to use to idempotent ids https://review.openstack.org/298437 | 15:37 |
| mriedem | sdague: approved | 15:38 |
| sdague | ok, I'm going to rebase these patches to start in the api-ref directory | 15:38 |
| sdague | then they can be legit reviewed I think | 15:38 |
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| mriedem | personally i'd like to see us flush our backlog of previously approved things, but i know you've already been WIPing this since feature freeze in mitaka and we need something to track these changes against | 15:39 |
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| sdague | mriedem: sure, understood. But if I start showing you our current API documentation, you might reconsider :) | 15:41 |
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| mriedem | the wadl stuff? | 15:42 |
| mriedem | in api-site? | 15:42 |
| dansmith | mriedem: don't do it -- it's a trap | 15:42 |
| mriedem | or just the fact we don't doc anything | 15:42 |
| mriedem | i've seen api-site, and even contributed | 15:42 |
| danpb | improved documentation should get an automatic free pass at any time IMHO | 15:42 |
| mriedem | danpb: and it did | 15:42 |
| mriedem | it's just we already have ~30 approved blueprints for mitaka, and i'd like to see some of those completed before the summit | 15:43 |
| mriedem | *newton | 15:43 |
| * danpb wonders how many of those blueprints already have code posted | 15:43 | |
| danpb | a good chunk of them ought to i reckon | 15:44 |
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| mriedem | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/newton | 15:44 |
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| alaski | johnthetubaguy: another review to un -2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263927/ | 15:45 |
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| mriedem | 32 approved, 10 w/o code up | 15:45 |
| danpb | opps, i see i forgot to tag my os-vif patch with the blueprint | 15:45 |
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| mriedem | danpb: heh, i was wondering what was going on with os-vif | 15:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova-specs: Re-Propose Expose quiesce/unquiesce API https://review.openstack.org/295595 | 15:46 |
| mriedem | gmann: this is marked as blocked https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/api-sample-tests-with-all-extensions | 15:46 |
| mriedem | what is it blocked on? | 15:46 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: not sure if you re-approved this blueprint, but it's approved. so should probably drop the -2s on https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/api-sample-tests-with-all-extensions+status:open | 15:47 |
| danpb | aieee, ValueError: (u'Malformed MAC %s', 'fake') i hate the way our unit tests use totally bogus data for fields | 15:47 |
| danpb | yes, a mac address of 'fake' really is very malformed | 15:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Create Instance from BuildRequest if not in a cell https://review.openstack.org/263927 | 15:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Add additional attributes to BuildRequest https://review.openstack.org/298455 | 15:47 |
| mriedem | f:a:k:e | 15:47 |
| danpb | if you're using base-20 :-) | 15:48 |
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| mriedem | danpb: we'd need a spec for that | 15:48 |
| mriedem | paul-carlton: PaulMurray: is this going to be re-proposed for newton? http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/mitaka/approved/use-libvirt-storage-pools.html | 15:49 |
| sdague | danpb: yeh, the bogus data through our unit tests is pretty problematic for catching some real issues. The uuid fixing is under way | 15:49 |
| sdague | a similar sentinel approach for these other kinds of data types might be good | 15:50 |
| sdague | mriedem: yes, the wadl stuff | 15:50 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: alaski: is there anything holding this up? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294208/ | 15:51 |
| alaski | mriedem: not on my end | 15:51 |
| mriedem | alaski: i think a lot of the work in mitaka targeted to ^ was actually add-buildrequest-obj | 15:51 |
| alaski | right | 15:51 |
| mriedem | alaski: do we have any code up for cells-scheduling-interation? | 15:52 |
| alaski | mriedem: right after https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263927/18 I plan to get into that spec | 15:52 |
| mriedem | *interaction | 15:52 |
| mriedem | ok | 15:52 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: can you drop the -2 on this also please https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263927/ | 15:52 |
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| mriedem | alaski: and the spec doesn't need any tweaks or anything? | 15:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section: "keymgr" https://review.openstack.org/273898 | 15:53 |
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| alaski | mriedem: I could add more details, but what's described isn't changing | 15:54 |
| mriedem | alaski: ok, no need to update then | 15:54 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: so, can you approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294208/ ? | 15:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova-specs: Versioned notification transformation https://review.openstack.org/286675 | 15:55 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I'm not super up on all the scheduling things | 15:56 |
| dansmith | mriedem: can we get laski to hit it at least? | 15:56 |
| mriedem | dansmith: it's just a re-approval from mitaka, no changes necessary according to mr laski | 15:56 |
| alaski | it's my spec :) | 15:56 |
| dansmith | alaski: I know it is, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't re-proposing something that has changed | 15:57 |
| dansmith | mriedem: you want me to +2+A because it's a re-propose? | 15:57 |
| mriedem | yes | 15:57 |
| mriedem | please | 15:57 |
| alaski | dansmith: it hasn't changed | 15:57 |
| alaski | it still describes the agreed upon plan | 15:57 |
| markus_z | BobBall: Got a second? | 15:57 |
| dansmith | done | 15:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: DNM: Canary to sniff out what postgres' problem is https://review.openstack.org/298452 | 15:58 |
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| gibi | mriedem: hi! can I add a notification subteam section into the https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-spec-review-tracking pad? | 15:58 |
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| mriedem | gibi: sure | 15:59 |
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| gibi | mriedem: I see that we are approving only re-proposed specs. the new versioned notification transformation spec is partially reproposed so it is not tagged that way | 15:59 |
| gibi | mriedem: I hope it won't block the review of it | 16:00 |
| cdent | jaypipes, snikitin: does http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/mitaka/approved/tag-instances.html need to get reproposed for newton? | 16:00 |
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| mriedem | cdent: yeah | 16:01 |
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| mriedem | gibi: how much of that is new? | 16:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: Add sample API content https://review.openstack.org/298763 | 16:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: Create api-ref docs site https://review.openstack.org/292420 | 16:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Map instances to cell0 on failed schedule https://review.openstack.org/267827 | 16:04 |
| gibi | mriedem: in Mitaka we proposed to tranform instance.update, api_fault, and keypair notifications but only the framework was merged | 16:05 |
| sdague | danpb: as you are one of the few folks that has written a custom sphinx extension in tree, I'd appreciate your eyes on - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292420/8/api-ref/ext/rest_parameters.py | 16:05 |
| gibi | mriedem: in Newton we propose to transform the instance.update the instance.delete and the wrap_exception (basically a more generic thing than api_fault) | 16:05 |
| gibi | mriedem: and the current proposal is already adapted to the merged framework | 16:06 |
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| gibi | mriedem: I have no problem taking it as a new spec if it does not disurage reviewing it :) | 16:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: DNM: Canary to sniff out what postgres' problem is https://review.openstack.org/298452 | 16:07 |
| gibi | mriedem: and we change the order of the transformation based on feedback | 16:07 |
| danpb | sdague: hehe, i barely remember the horror of writing that previous extension :-) | 16:08 |
| gibi | mriedem: s/change/changed/ | 16:08 |
| sdague | danpb: heh | 16:08 |
| sdague | there is much more horror in this one :) | 16:08 |
| sdague | well, at least, there was during development. It's not so bad in final form | 16:08 |
| danpb | mostly a case of if the HTML looks good, ship it | 16:08 |
| jaypipes | sdague: heh: "We're living on brownfield that is on fire." | 16:09 |
| sdague | jaypipes: I thought you might like that | 16:09 |
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| gibi | mriedem: I have to run now, but I will check back later today | 16:11 |
| danpb | oh, that's a pretty neat extension | 16:12 |
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| markus_z | jaypipes: hehe, whose quote is that? | 16:12 |
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| sdake | hey folks | 16:13 |
| sdake | one of our community members is suffering from a problem reported here: | 16:13 |
| sdake | https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvirt-users/2014-May/msg00017.html | 16:13 |
| sdake | its the exact same symptoms | 16:14 |
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| sdake | only on his environment | 16:14 |
| sdake | there was no followup to that thread | 16:14 |
| sdake | anyone have pointers on where to head next for info or people to ask? | 16:14 |
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| sdake | This relates to kolla deployment | 16:14 |
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| dansmith | sdake: looks like relatively standard shared library stuff | 16:15 |
| dansmith | sdake: pretty far removed from nova development, so I would recommend somewhere else | 16:15 |
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| sdake | ok i'll hunt down the libvirt channel if there is one | 16:16 |
| jaypipes | markus_z: Mr. Sean Dague's :) | 16:16 |
| sdake | thanks | 16:16 |
| sdake | was hoping someone would know where to go next ;) | 16:16 |
| sdake | besides somewhere else :) | 16:16 |
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| dansmith | sdake: that's not really even a libvirt issue, which is probably why it got ignored | 16:17 |
| sdake | i guess you have a point there | 16:17 |
| sdake | i hadn't considered that | 16:17 |
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| sdake | dansmith thanks for pointing that out | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Sujitha proposed openstack/nova: Config options: Centralize compute options https://review.openstack.org/295938 | 16:18 |
| rdopiera | pkoniszewski: this should fix it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298851/ | 16:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Config options: Centralize debugger options https://review.openstack.org/274298 | 16:19 |
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| danpb | sdague: do you know where you're new api-ref doc appears in the docs job output ? | 16:22 |
| markus_z | jaypipes: thanks, found it | 16:22 |
| danpb | sdague: i was trying to find it in http://docs-draft.openstack.org/63/298763/1/check/gate-nova-docs/52a97f1//doc/build/html/ but failed so far | 16:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: DNM: Canary to sniff out what postgres' problem is https://review.openstack.org/298452 | 16:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/os-vif: os-vif: add initial documentation about object model https://review.openstack.org/294596 | 16:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: trivial: remove unused argument from a method https://review.openstack.org/286743 | 16:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Refactor _update_xml https://review.openstack.org/286742 | 16:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: live-mig: Add claims and proper resource tracking https://review.openstack.org/244489 | 16:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: live-migrate updates NUMA and cpus in the XML https://review.openstack.org/286744 | 16:29 |
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| ildikov | mriedem: johnthetubaguy: friendly reminder that we have the Cinder-Nova API meeting tomorrow | 16:31 |
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| ndipanov | jaypipes, if you have a sec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262583/ | 16:32 |
| ildikov | mriedem: johnthetubaguy: I updated the etherpad (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-nova-api-changes ) with a short agenda, also added a link to ongoing Cinder activities | 16:33 |
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| ildikov | ndipanov: FYI, if you're interested in enhancing the Cinder-Nova interaction ^^ | 16:34 |
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| mriedem | ildikov: yup, got it on my calendar | 16:35 |
| ildikov | ndipanov: partially related to multiattach | 16:35 |
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| ildikov | mriedem: coolio, tnx! | 16:35 |
| ildikov | mriedem: also congrats :) | 16:35 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: would be good to get sriov ci of some sort passing on that change | 16:36 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: we have at least 2 i think, intel and mellanox | 16:36 |
| mriedem | ildikov: thanks | 16:36 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: although i doubt they probably cover your change anyway, so might not matter | 16:37 |
| mriedem | i rechecked them anyway | 16:37 |
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| cdent | edleafe: I'm going to blame you (not your patch) for example.com. Does that work. It's got to be someone's fault and you're convenient. Are you willing to wear that cross? | 16:38 |
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| auggy | markus_z: looks like PaulMurray isn't around, I haven't seen anything detrimental live-migration in the bug skimming | 16:42 |
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| auggy | there are a couple of live migration related bugs but i'm still confirming them | 16:43 |
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| markus_z | auggy: "detrimental" ... gosh I love words :) | 16:44 |
| edleafe | cdent: I'll be your whipping boy | 16:44 |
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| markus_z | auggy: Yeah, a lot new ones in the last days | 16:44 |
| auggy | markus_z: yeah we got a small wave haha | 16:44 |
| auggy | i've mostly been weeding out the "api error" ones | 16:44 |
| auggy | and then flagging any incomplete ones so we can get responses from the reporters | 16:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: does that not clash with the general cross project meeting that usually happens? | 16:45 |
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| auggy | i'm saving the ones that look legit that need to be repro'ed for last ;) | 16:45 |
| markus_z | auggy: Thanks for the reminder, I wanted to ask around about the "api error" message bug reports. | 16:46 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: isn't it on Tuesday? | 16:46 |
| markus_z | auggy: valid strategy. A few quick "wins" and then the hard stuff. | 16:46 |
| auggy | markus_z: yeah np, the biggest ones are all coming from people following the rdo installation guide on liberty | 16:46 |
| auggy | markus_z: i had linked one of those bugs originally to the documentation team, suggesting they review that doc | 16:46 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: or was it moved? | 16:47 |
| auggy | markus_z: but they closed my bug as invalid :/ | 16:47 |
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| markus_z | auggy: Hm, which bug report was that? | 16:47 |
| auggy | markus_z: but in each case, they all have the same problem with keystone authentication | 16:47 |
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| markus_z | auggy: Right, I noticed the keystone auth issue too | 16:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: so turns out I can't reader a calendar correctly, 30th is tomorrow, oops | 16:47 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: thanks for the reminder though, updated my calendar, in the hope I can make a bit of that | 16:48 |
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| auggy | markus_z: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1534273 | 16:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1534273 in openstack-manuals "Keystone configuration options for nova.conf missing from Redhat/CentOS install guide" [Undecided,Invalid] | 16:48 |
| mriedem | danpb: ndipanov: is there a reason https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262583/ isn't pushed to os-vif? | 16:48 |
| auggy | markus_z: i think they said i was mixing versions since the article i linked referred to kilo | 16:49 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: sure, you told last week I should remind you the day before, this is why I pinged today | 16:49 |
| auggy | markus_z: but my issue was that it's possible some configurations were missing since we are seeing this so frequently | 16:49 |
| markus_z | auggy: yep, Matt from the manuals team closed it before it was evident that the liberty manuals seem to have that issue as well. | 16:50 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: you got me worried for a second that I managed to find the only slot when that channel is not available :) | 16:50 |
| auggy | markus_z: i wonder if i should file a new bug with them and reference this one | 16:50 |
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| ndipanov | mriedem, we want it before os-vif? | 16:50 |
| ndipanov | i.e. don't want to block on os-vif | 16:51 |
| markus_z | auggy: Yes, seems valid from my POV | 16:51 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: ok, i just asked and guessed that was the answer in the review | 16:51 |
| auggy | markus_z: kk i'll put that on my list for today | 16:51 |
| ndipanov | I missed that question though | 16:51 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: we did block new volume types from the libvirt driver due to os-brick | 16:51 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: just asked :) | 16:51 |
| auggy | markus_z: we see enough bug traffic from this and i keep linking the same articles and marking it as dupes of this bug ;D | 16:51 |
| markus_z | auggy: Thanks a lot! I owe you a <insert-favorite-drink-here> in Austin. | 16:51 |
| auggy | markus_z: oh no worries!! i'm happy to help out, learning is my reward :P | 16:51 |
| danpb | mriedem: until Nova has switched over to using os-vif, we're just allowing business as usual in nova, to avoid bottlenecking other people | 16:52 |
| danpb | mriedem: it doesn't really cause us any problems from os-vif pov really | 16:52 |
| mriedem | danpb: sure, i figured that was the answer. i honestly can't remember if we held new volume drivers up until we landed the initial os-brick change, we probably did | 16:53 |
| mriedem | *probably didn't i mean, | 16:53 |
| mriedem | but we made getting os-brick in a priority | 16:53 |
| danpb | i think we did | 16:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: Config options: centralize base path configuration https://review.openstack.org/259406 | 16:53 |
| danpb | but in general i wanted to be more friendly to other devs so that they didn't come to hate os-vif :-) | 16:53 |
| mriedem | yeah..... | 16:54 |
| mriedem | danpb: how are things looking for having some nova patches for os-vif integration? that's all a black box to me atm | 16:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Config options: Centralize netconf options https://review.openstack.org/294312 | 16:54 |
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| danpb | mriedem: i'm about to submit them again to see how happy the gate is with htem.... | 16:55 |
| mriedem | ok, cool | 16:55 |
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| mriedem | alright, i'll +W when the mellanox CI results are in | 16:56 |
| danpb | i still need to get patches merged to os-vif converted to use privsep before we finally try to switch over nova, but that shouldn't be much longer | 16:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hemanth Makkapati proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize xenserver vm_utils opts https://review.openstack.org/298875 | 17:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: pass a real instance object into vif plug/unplug methods https://review.openstack.org/273603 | 17:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: os-vif: convert libvirt driver to use os-vif library https://review.openstack.org/269672 | 17:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: fix ivs test to use the ivs vif object https://review.openstack.org/273604 | 17:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: virt: use more realistic fake network / VIF data https://review.openstack.org/298877 | 17:07 |
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| danpb | hmm, seems i don't have privileges to mark the os-vif-library blueprint as started in launchpad | 17:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: Introduce VNC Security Proxy Framework https://review.openstack.org/115483 | 17:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: Add VeNCrypt (TLS/x509) Security Proxy Driver https://review.openstack.org/115484 | 17:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sujitha proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralize upgrade_levels section https://review.openstack.org/297381 | 17:19 |
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| sdague | danpb: it's not in the output right now because it's a dedicated tree | 17:21 |
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| sdague | tox -e api-ref will build the tree locally, I don't know if there is a way to see it in the docs job, I think it's outside of the root we expose | 17:21 |
| sdague | I was going to work on a new publish job for it | 17:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Move config options from nova/api directory https://review.openstack.org/258180 | 17:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the API options (4) https://review.openstack.org/297237 | 17:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the API options (2) https://review.openstack.org/260587 | 17:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the API options (1) https://review.openstack.org/260586 | 17:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the API options (3) https://review.openstack.org/260588 | 17:22 |
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| danpb | sdague: ahh i see | 17:24 |
| sdague | yeh, that root doesn't seem to be there - http://docs-draft.openstack.org/20/292420/8/check/gate-nova-docs/97f2b22/ | 17:25 |
| dhellmann | markus_z : wow https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/947261 is really old -- I'm not sure it's a big concern, but I think at the time nova-manage was documented in the developer docs or some other in-tree docs because the doc team wasn't using sphinx back then. | 17:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 947261 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "format command line app documentation using sphinx features" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 17:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Create Instance from BuildRequest if not in a cell https://review.openstack.org/263927 | 17:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: DNM Verify BuildRequest matches Instance https://review.openstack.org/298885 | 17:29 |
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| danpb | johnthetubaguy: if you're still around can you remove your procedural -2 on this https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/virt-device-role-tagging now its re-approved for N | 17:32 |
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| HenryG | mriedem: pong about port-security | 17:34 |
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| mriedem | HenryG: ping? | 17:34 |
| HenryG | mriedem: if the port-security extension is enabled, the network will be created with port_security_enabled=True. | 17:34 |
| HenryG | mriedem: This gives the same behavior as when the extension is not enabled | 17:35 |
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| HenryG | mriedem: The user can of course go in and change their network to port_security_enabled=False after it has been auto-allocated. | 17:36 |
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| mriedem | HenryG: ok, but nova could assume that if it's auto-allocating a network, we can base the port_security_enabled value on whether or not the extension is enabled | 17:37 |
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| mriedem | HenryG: when you say "This gives the same behavior as when the extension is not enabled" do you mean that if the port-security extension is not enabled, the auto-allocated network will have port_security_enabled=False? | 17:38 |
| HenryG | mriedem: if the port-security extension is not enabled, then there is no port_security_enabled attribute. | 17:38 |
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| mriedem | HenryG: ok | 17:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hemanth Makkapati proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize xenserver vmops opts https://review.openstack.org/298899 | 17:41 |
| sdague | danpb: I'm working on the publish pipeline here - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298888/ - hopefully get that landed shortly | 17:41 |
| sdague | then there will be draft results for the extension | 17:41 |
| HenryG | mriedem: It is a bit confusing, but the extension allows you to disable port security on a network. Without the extension you cannot disable port security. | 17:41 |
| mriedem | sdague: can you work your doc building magic on figuring this one out? our priorities are no longer showing up here http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/#priorities | 17:43 |
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| HenryG | mriedem: When the *extension* is enabled, the default state for networks is to have port security enabled. | 17:44 |
| mriedem | sdague: this looks ok though http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova-specs/tree/doc/source/index.rst#n17 | 17:44 |
| sdague | mriedem: sure, I'll poke in a few | 17:45 |
| HenryG | mriedem: The user must set port_security_enabled=False on a network to disable port security. They can't do this without the extension. | 17:45 |
| mriedem | HenryG: ok | 17:45 |
| HenryG | mriedem: I hope I didn't make it more confusing :) | 17:45 |
| mriedem | HenryG: no this is helpful, thanks | 17:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: Add sample API content https://review.openstack.org/298763 | 17:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: Create api-ref docs site https://review.openstack.org/292420 | 17:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the legacy API options https://review.openstack.org/273266 | 17:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova-specs: Fix nova-specs priorities references https://review.openstack.org/298905 | 17:51 |
| sdague | mriedem: ^^^ | 17:51 |
| sdague | I think that fixes it | 17:52 |
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| sdague | it did locally for me | 17:52 |
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| mriedem | sdague: you're my hero, works for me too | 17:54 |
| dansmith | never once have I been mriedem's hero | 17:54 |
| mriedem | maybe once, 2 years ago | 17:54 |
| dansmith | for like a second | 17:54 |
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| sdague | mriedem hero queue is a fifo of size one, so I'll be booted out by this afternoon :) | 17:55 |
| dansmith | sdague: d-g describes the "running devstack" process as "takes 10-15 minutes" but I think that was probably a long time ago.. I'm at 30 minutes and still going | 17:55 |
| dansmith | sdague: should we update that? it's pretty minor of course | 17:56 |
| mriedem | i will give a hero plaque to whomever wants to write these mitaka highlights charts for me | 17:56 |
| sdague | dansmith: it really should be 15 minutes | 17:56 |
| dansmith | hrm | 17:56 |
| sdague | some of the nodes are long | 17:56 |
| dansmith | I have two jobs at 30+ .. is there something else that affects it? | 17:56 |
| dansmith | okay | 17:56 |
| sdague | 30 seems way out of bounds | 17:56 |
| sdague | node provider? | 17:56 |
| dansmith | well, maybe I'm heading for a timeout or something | 17:56 |
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| dansmith | sdague: ovh | 17:56 |
| sdague | yeh, ovh is the slowest in the pool I think | 17:57 |
| dansmith | okay | 17:57 |
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| dansmith | sucks for me | 17:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the OSAPI options https://review.openstack.org/274879 | 17:58 |
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| dansmith | sdague: I'm at 40 minutes now | 18:06 |
| dansmith | must be stuck | 18:06 |
| dansmith | sdague: https://jenkins05.openstack.org/job/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/31250/console | 18:06 |
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| sdague | dansmith: maybe, it's hard to say | 18:06 |
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| sdague | that's super weird though | 18:07 |
| dansmith | sdague: verbally assaulting it doesn't seem to work | 18:07 |
| sdague | I'd poke infra about it | 18:07 |
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| doffm | mriedem, alaski: Could I get your opinion on this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275266/17/releasenotes/notes/create-cell0-mapping-60a9229c223a7516.yaml | 18:12 |
| doffm | melwitt isn't sure if we should be doing releasenotes for cellsv2 commands yet. | 18:13 |
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| alaski | yeah, that question came up on another patch and we held off on the releasenote because users shouldn't run it yet | 18:14 |
| doffm | I'm happy to remove it from the patch. I just want to make sure we don't forget them later. | 18:14 |
| doffm | Not sure where to record a 'future' release note. | 18:14 |
| danpb | sdague: i'm trying to get a test of nova against os-vif git but it seems the gate isn't happy pulling requirements from git anyone ? | 18:14 |
| danpb | eg i added this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269672/7/requirements.txt | 18:14 |
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| sdague | danpb: correct, it can't pull directly from git | 18:15 |
| danpb | is this something that's not possible anymore | 18:15 |
| sdague | I think so | 18:15 |
| sdague | lifeless would know for sure | 18:15 |
| sdague | it's about the upper-constraints processing | 18:15 |
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| danpb | any tips on how to workaround, or do we just have to bite the bullet and make a release of os-vif for testing | 18:15 |
| sdague | is there a LIBS_FROM_GIT job on os-vif? | 18:16 |
| danpb | hmm, wonder if i can hack tox.ini to manually install os-vif in the .venv | 18:16 |
| danpb | dunno, probably not | 18:16 |
| alaski | doffm: I could go either way here. It would be perfectly fine for deployers to run this command now, which wasn't really the case on the other review. But it's not necessary, so *shrug* | 18:16 |
| sdague | danpb: which test jobs do you want run at the end of the day? | 18:16 |
| sdague | maybe we can work backwards from that | 18:16 |
| alaski | doffm: I would probably leave it. I'll comment on the review | 18:16 |
| danpb | sdague: as a first hit i want to test unit tests passing, but then basically all the jobs which touch VIF setup which is all of them relaly | 18:17 |
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| sdague | danpb: ok, for unit tests, I'd honestly probably try to do that locally. We should probably add a tempest job to os-vif that tries a full run like is done with oslo libs | 18:19 |
| sdague | but, it should be about the time of day for lifeless to start appearing, and we can figure out if there is a hack around to use git in the requirements files for point testing like this | 18:19 |
| danpb | ok, i've got to go offline now unfortunately, so i'll look again tomorrow | 18:20 |
| sdague | danpb: ok, I'll ask lifeless when he gets on | 18:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: DNM: Canary to sniff out what postgres' problem is https://review.openstack.org/298452 | 18:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Rossiter proposed openstack/nova: Remove DictCompat from FixedIP https://review.openstack.org/265951 | 18:23 |
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| ndipanov | mriedem, melanox ci seems happy on this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262583/ | 18:26 |
| ndipanov | and the one after that ;) | 18:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the neutron API options https://review.openstack.org/274126 | 18:27 |
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| mriedem | ndipanov: cool, +W on the bottom change | 18:29 |
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| mriedem | ndipanov: is "type-PF" a nova-only constant? or also used in neutron? | 18:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: Introduce VNC Security Proxy Framework https://review.openstack.org/115483 | 18:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: Add VeNCrypt (TLS/x509) Security Proxy Driver https://review.openstack.org/115484 | 18:37 |
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| mriedem | ndipanov: do you need to update this? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/f15d9a9693b19393fcde84cf4bc6f044d39ffdca/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L3378 | 18:40 |
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| mriedem | sdague: do you have like a 1 sentence summary of the progress made in mitaka for the service catalog TNG work? | 18:48 |
| mriedem | i know there was a microversion in nova to make project_id optional | 18:48 |
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| sdague | mriedem: honestly, I was about to write a list email about all of that | 18:49 |
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| mriedem | do it! | 18:49 |
| mriedem | you'll be my hero all over again | 18:49 |
| sdague | mriedem: give me an hour and it will be on the list | 18:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Add manage command for cell0. https://review.openstack.org/275266 | 18:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Map instances to cell0 on failed schedule https://review.openstack.org/267827 | 18:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Manage db sync command for cell0 https://review.openstack.org/274885 | 18:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova-specs: Move aggregates tables to the API database https://review.openstack.org/288084 | 18:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Move config options from nova/objects/network.py https://review.openstack.org/269240 | 18:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the linuxnet options (4) https://review.openstack.org/275423 | 18:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the linuxnet options (2) https://review.openstack.org/271489 | 18:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the linuxnet options (3) https://review.openstack.org/272231 | 18:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Move config options from nova/network/linux_net.py https://review.openstack.org/270441 | 18:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the linuxnet options (1) https://review.openstack.org/270959 | 18:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve help text for the network object options https://review.openstack.org/269313 | 18:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova-specs: Move networking tables to the API db. https://review.openstack.org/291382 | 18:59 |
| sdague | mriedem: can you also go +1 this tempest patch | 18:59 |
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| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271467/ | 18:59 |
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| dansmith | alaski: mriedem: have you guys reviewed the next few patches in the line? Just want to make it clear the -2 on the bottom patch is just to make sure we get agreement on the top ones before we flush the queue | 19:04 |
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| dansmith | melwitt: also | 19:04 |
| mriedem | dansmith: i haven't yet, switched to some of alaski's build request stuff yesterday | 19:04 |
| dansmith | okay | 19:04 |
| dansmith | I looked at those a bit ago, I guess I should go back to them | 19:05 |
| alaski | I haven't either. it's on my list but I got sucked into my own coding for a bit | 19:05 |
| mriedem | sdague: so the main complaint is those tests are redundant with the nova in-tree tests, right? because project_id isn't optional until v2.18 | 19:06 |
| sdague | mriedem: correct | 19:06 |
| sdague | these tests *can't* work on installations where project_id is not in the url | 19:07 |
| sdague | most of them work by changing out that part of the url | 19:07 |
| dansmith | alaski: so most of your stuff seems -Wed or -2d, right? | 19:07 |
| sdague | assuming that's meaningful | 19:07 |
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| sdague | which means that in their current incarnation they are preventing anyone from changing their service catalog to the prefered form | 19:08 |
| alaski | dansmith: yeah, the last ready one merged yesterday. I'm working ahead to verify what's currently up before it merges, but I think it's in reviewable shape | 19:08 |
| dansmith | alaski: okay cool | 19:08 |
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| mriedem | sdague: like test_create_keypair_in_analt_user_tenant | 19:15 |
| mriedem | which skips if it can't run | 19:16 |
| mriedem | but test_create_server_fails_when_tenant_incorrect doesn't, it just fails | 19:16 |
| sdague | mriedem: right | 19:17 |
| mriedem | sdague: i commented, but not comfortable scoring | 19:19 |
| sdague | mriedem: ok | 19:19 |
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| mriedem | i need to wrap my head around http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-specs/specs/service-catalog.html first, but i see oomichi +2'ed it also | 19:21 |
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| lifeless | sdague: hi | 19:28 |
| lifeless | sdague: I'm not fully here - morning routing with daughter for the next 30 or so, then tc meeting | 19:28 |
| lifeless | sdague: after that we can talk constraints | 19:29 |
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| dansmith | alaski: woot, I think we have a weiner | 19:32 |
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| alaski | sweet | 19:34 |
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| Marcellin | Hey all. Please can you take a look at the bug review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298470/ | 19:41 |
| Marcellin | Thank you | 19:41 |
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| oomichi | Marcellin: I did put my comment on that, can you check it? | 19:46 |
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| Marcellin | oomichi: Thank you | 19:47 |
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| rlrossit | alaski is a wiener? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKcHIQb2rY0 | 19:51 |
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| alaski | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Imaweiner | 19:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marcellin Fom Tchassem proposed openstack/nova: Cleanup the exception LiveMigrationWithOldNovaNotSafe https://review.openstack.org/298470 | 19:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marcellin Fom Tchassem proposed openstack/nova: Cleanup the exception LiveMigrationWithOldNovaNotSafe https://review.openstack.org/298470 | 19:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hemanth Makkapati proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize xenserver vmops opts https://review.openstack.org/298899 | 20:07 |
| mriedem | dansmith: vexxxhost is also timing out devstack setup http://logs.openstack.org/83/262583/23/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/632c43f/console.html#_2016-03-29_19_45_01_529 | 20:07 |
| mriedem | *vexxhost | 20:07 |
| mriedem | don't want people getting the wrong idea there | 20:07 |
| dansmith | mriedem: my problem was.. my problem :) | 20:07 |
| dansmith | turns out | 20:07 |
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| mriedem | this one looks like glance db migrations are taking a looong time for some reason | 20:09 |
| sdague | mriedem: everything is really slow on that run | 20:10 |
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| sdague | installing apache from deb - 2 minutes - http://logs.openstack.org/83/262583/23/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/632c43f//logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2016-03-29_18_39_57_080 | 20:11 |
| sdague | like every deb install is about 2 minutes | 20:11 |
| sdague | there must be a massively overcommited disk on that host | 20:12 |
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| mriedem | jbernard_: is this what you were waiting for re: the ceph plugin job? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293155/ | 20:14 |
| jbernard_ | mriedem: it is! | 20:14 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I hassled clarkb about it this morning | 20:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hemanth Makkapati proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize xenserver vm_utils opts https://review.openstack.org/298875 | 20:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Further hack up the n.t.unit.db.fakes module of horribleness https://review.openstack.org/296106 | 20:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Block flavor creation until main database is empty https://review.openstack.org/295310 | 20:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add flavor migration routine https://review.openstack.org/294771 | 20:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: DNM: Canary to sniff out what postgres' problem is https://review.openstack.org/298452 | 20:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: Add sample API content https://review.openstack.org/298763 | 21:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: Create api-ref docs site https://review.openstack.org/292420 | 21:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Migrate compute node resource information to Inventory objects https://review.openstack.org/279313 | 21:10 |
| lifeless | sdague: so | 21:11 |
| lifeless | sdague: constraints?whats up? | 21:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marcellin Fom Tchassem proposed openstack/nova: Cleanup the exception LiveMigrationWithOldNovaNotSafe https://review.openstack.org/298470 | 21:18 |
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| cdent | dansmith: the issue on the step size is that we don't know what's out there in the world already and we don't want the default step size we inject during the live migration to cause problems. yes, 32GB is reasonable, assuming a logic world, but it is not _safe_ because the world is not logical. | 21:24 |
| dansmith | cdent: 32MB you mean | 21:24 |
| cdent | yeah, sorry | 21:25 |
| dansmith | cdent: but yeah, that's a good reason, I didn't pick that up from skimming the comments, so fair enough | 21:25 |
| cdent | I'd love for the world to be logical | 21:25 |
| * cdent is permanently depressed | 21:25 | |
| auggy | cdent: you just have to lower your expectations ;) | 21:27 |
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| auggy | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3flv5nWZgII | 21:27 |
| cdent | I've checked the year on year trends. I have been. c.f. depression :) | 21:28 |
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| cdent | ha | 21:28 |
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| cdent | Actually, I lie. I'd be sooooo bored if everything was logical. | 21:28 |
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| auggy | i'm sure everything *is* logical... to someone ;D | 21:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Fix: unable to delete instance when cinder is down https://review.openstack.org/298997 | 21:49 |
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| dansmith | ugh, we're hitting the same py3 silliness on the compute inventory patch | 21:53 |
| * dansmith rages | 21:53 | |
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| cdent | dansmith: the one with mocks not behaving with staticmethod or something else? | 21:54 |
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| dansmith | yeah | 21:54 |
| cdent | :( | 21:54 |
| dansmith | I'll fix it, it's just annoying that the fix makes it poopy-er | 21:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sujitha proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralize upgrade_levels section https://review.openstack.org/297381 | 22:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Stop using mox in test_security_groups https://review.openstack.org/299001 | 22:05 |
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| dansmith | actually, I don't know why these aren't failing everywhere | 22:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Migrate compute node resource information to Inventory objects https://review.openstack.org/279313 | 22:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add Service.get_minimum_version_multi() for multiple binaries https://review.openstack.org/279312 | 22:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make compute_node_statistics() use new schema https://review.openstack.org/286931 | 22:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Config options: Centralize resource tracker options https://review.openstack.org/294211 | 22:37 |
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| dansmith | alaski: so, we're all green on that top patch, except the neutron job is on vexxhost and is hitting the known hang there | 22:52 |
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| dansmith | alaski: when that fails, I'll recheck and then I think we're good to go | 22:52 |
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| alaski | dansmith: awesome. I'll go through the series tomorrow | 23:13 |
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