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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Add checks for driver attach_interfaces capability https://review.openstack.org/272471 | 03:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/nova: Error on API Guide warnings https://review.openstack.org/292137 | 08:15 |
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| eliqiao | hi alex_xu, there? | 08:24 |
| alex_xu | eliqiao: here | 08:25 |
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| eliqiao | re-https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292185/1/nova/compute/manager.py, if I understand you correctly, what I need to do is just add a new decorator messaging.expected_exceptions and put exception.instancenot found in the list of it's parameter? | 08:25 |
| alex_xu | eliqiao: yes, i think so | 08:26 |
| eliqiao | so that @wrap_exception() can record this exception. | 08:26 |
| alex_xu | eliqiao: at least you shouldn't mute the exception, there is instance-action will record any fault in the action | 08:26 |
| eliqiao | alex_xu: I get what's you mean. | 08:27 |
| eliqiao | alex_xu: to my understanding, I can imagin that we need also add this decorator to live_migration_abort() | 08:28 |
| eliqiao | when you try to abort a on-going live-migraton, the instance might be migrated to another host already. | 08:29 |
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| alex_xu | eliqiao: yea, maybe | 08:30 |
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| eliqiao | alex_xu: okay, I am going to add both. | 08:30 |
| alex_xu | eliqiao: cool | 08:30 |
| eliqiao | alex_xu: do you prefer a UT?(but I don't think so) | 08:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Redundant parentheses removed https://review.openstack.org/290410 | 08:39 |
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| bauzas | good morning | 08:54 |
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| tdurakov | markus_z: hi,are you around? | 09:17 |
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| markus_z | tdurakov: yep, what's up? | 09:18 |
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| tdurakov | markus_z: do you know anything about patch to devstack that allows to use latest libvirt/qemu? | 09:19 |
| markus_z | tdurakov: yeah, details are here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/libvirt-latest-test-job | 09:20 |
| markus_z | tdurakov: AFAIK we need to migrate the plugin repo to an openstack repo | 09:20 |
| markus_z | tdurakov: that's the missing piece to get away from the wip status, I wanted to ask tonyb how the progress is there. | 09:21 |
| tdurakov | markus_z: I'm thinking of creation duplicate of live-migration job with this plugin, to check whether libvirt version bump increase stability or not | 09:22 |
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| tdurakov | markus_z: ping me please once it will be ready to use | 09:22 |
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| markus_z | tdurakov: ok, will do | 09:23 |
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| kashyap | markus_z: Are any bits from this being reused at all? -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108714/ | 09:27 |
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| kashyap | markus_z: I realize it's from tar files, probably what you're doing there is to get from virt-preview (and similar alternatives for Debian & its derivatives) | 09:28 |
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| markus_z | kashyap: hm, that change is news to me | 09:28 |
| kashyap | markus_z: Yeah, in this context, it's useful to go through if you have time. | 09:29 |
| markus_z | kashyap: right now (for the happy path to get it running) we use the ubuntu cloud archives | 09:29 |
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| kashyap | markus_z: Right, I presume that's because the Gate runs it. | 09:29 |
| kashyap | markus_z: Okay, then, I don't want to distract you :-) | 09:29 |
| markus_z | kashyap: Na, good point, I'll have a look at that change. Thanks for the pointer. | 09:30 |
| kashyap | (Though, it's a pity that the contributor didn't follow through -- it was his first, and a nice attempt at that.) | 09:31 |
| markus_z | kashyap: Yeah, I've noticed that too. | 09:31 |
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| kashyap | If there's interest in it, I could probably revive it. | 09:32 |
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| kashyap | Though, our first prio is the Gate stuff...though. I'm hoping it's going to save a good deal of triaging time. | 09:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova-specs: Remove compute-compute communication in live-migration https://review.openstack.org/292271 | 09:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: Cleanup for post/rollback of live-migrations https://review.openstack.org/280653 | 09:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: New field for LibvirtLiveMigrateData https://review.openstack.org/286745 | 09:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: move disk_info calc to check methods https://review.openstack.org/291160 | 09:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: implement async rpc for live-migration https://review.openstack.org/291161 | 09:35 |
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| markus_z | kashyap: Not sure if a revive would make sense. I would overlap a lot with the current work we are doing, doesn't it? | 09:36 |
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| kashyap | markus_z: I haven't examined the current DevStack plugin work. Of course, any revival oughtto be brought up on the mailing list before doing any changes in that area. | 09:37 |
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| markus_z | kashyap: The compilation of libvirt wasn't desired when we want to use it in the gate. | 09:39 |
| markus_z | kashyap: The devstack plugin from tonyb is desigend to take any pre-compiled package. | 09:39 |
| kashyap | markus_z: That support from tar change is not for Gate. More for day-day experimental testing. | 09:39 |
| kashyap | (On local dev boxes.) | 09:40 |
| markus_z | kashyap: OK, yeah, that's where it has a benefit | 09:40 |
| markus_z | kashyap: Especially for people who also work in the libvirt/qemu community. | 09:40 |
| kashyap | Yep | 09:40 |
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| markus_z | kashyap: I'm "pro revive" then | 09:41 |
| kashyap | markus_z: Yeah, it needs to be an external plugin anyway. (As you might see from the review comments.) | 09:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Abhishek Talwar proposed openstack/python-novaclient: aggregate-details changed to aggregate-show https://review.openstack.org/292277 | 09:45 |
| markus_z | kashyap: You can use https://github.com/tbreeds/tbreeds-devstack-plugin-additional-pkg-repos to get a feeling how this should look like. | 09:45 |
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| kashyap | markus_z: Yep, will look. I can't promise I'll get to it this month, as, I'll be going for a two week PTO from 28th of this month, I'm afraid. | 09:46 |
| markus_z | kashyap: no worries | 09:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Feng Xi Yan proposed openstack/nova: <VMWARE> Add power state cache in compute manager https://review.openstack.org/242006 | 09:52 |
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| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: mriedem tagged https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1533876 as RC blocker on last Friday. The etherpad is up-to-date. | 09:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1533876 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "plug_vhostuser may fail due to device not found error when setting mtu" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to sean mooney (sean-k-mooney) | 09:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: cool, yes, got that one open for review actually | 09:55 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: I am bit worried this change is breaking the scheduler split out, or am I miss-understanding the change? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277422/10 | 09:59 |
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| markus_z | Just out of curiosity, what's the status of the split out of the scheduler? | 10:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: making progress, is the rough summary | 10:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think (but not 100% sure) we have all the config having the correct split between the scheduler and the compute nodes now | 10:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | Its probably more about ensuring you can have different config on different compute nodes, I guess | 10:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | the big next step is getting the generic resource reservation system merged, we had a good chunk of the formats in place | 10:07 |
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| markus_z | That's what Jay is doing, right? | 10:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, with cdent | 10:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | and others | 10:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: really its more about being able to get a good scheduler we can easily extend (in tree) to do whats needed of it, rather than split it out | 10:09 |
| markus_z | So still a few cycles left until the split will happen I guess. | 10:09 |
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| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: I see. I thought the split out should really happen. | 10:09 |
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| johnthetubaguy | well, its more important we deal with shared storage, in neutrons routed networks, cinder volume locality, etc | 10:10 |
| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: Right, the scheduler has to understand a lot of stuff. I'm working on "iothreads" right now, which could also affect the scheduler. | 10:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | now you could argue a heap of that will be easier when its in a separate git tree, but right now, thats easier in tree, till we get a decent interface between the scheduler and the rest of the compute nodes, if that makes sense | 10:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: so once we get these decent patterns established, I think we will be in a better place | 10:12 |
| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: I'm all on board for a good interface! I did some inline doc updates for the virt driver interface some time ago and have seen the wires. | 10:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, its getting better now, with request spec, etc | 10:12 |
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| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: OK, thanks for the info. | 10:14 |
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| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: btw, will you candidate for PTL again? | 10:14 |
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| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, lemme look | 10:16 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, hmmm | 10:17 |
| markus_z | pkoniszewski: Could you have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1544044 please? Using "DocImpact" create bug reports in Nova which need enough information for the manuals team before routing the report to them. | 10:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1544044 in OpenStack Compute (nova) " Add new API to force live migration to complete" [Low,Confirmed] | 10:17 |
| mdbooth | markus_z: Email to list said at least not this time | 10:17 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, yeah it is actually we should revert it | 10:17 |
| markus_z | mdbooth: too bad :( | 10:18 |
| markus_z | mdbooth: I missed that mail | 10:18 |
| ndipanov | well actually it's not as simple as that | 10:18 |
| ndipanov | but yes this is the wrong direction to go into and we should revert it | 10:19 |
| markus_z | eliqiao: Could you have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1551782 please? Using "DocImpact" create bug reports in Nova which need enough information for the manuals team before routing the report to them. | 10:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1551782 in OpenStack Compute (nova) " API: Improve os-migrateLive input parameters" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 10:19 |
| ndipanov | currently it doesn't break anything because we don't really do claims in the scheduler | 10:19 |
| ndipanov | (the host state locking patches added that) | 10:19 |
| ndipanov | in which case this would be broken | 10:19 |
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| ndipanov | currently it is as well but in a more subtle way | 10:20 |
| ndipanov | where it's only checked on the compute node | 10:20 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, anyway posting a revert now | 10:20 |
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| mdbooth | ndipanov: Out of curiosity, what's being reverted? | 10:20 |
| ndipanov | unless we consider that option to be non revertable now | 10:20 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, ^ | 10:21 |
| ndipanov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277422/ | 10:21 |
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| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: I am not standing for PTL this time, I sent a note to the ML | 10:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: Make tuple actually a tuple https://review.openstack.org/291138 | 10:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: sorry, got distracted there, yeah, I think we are OK reverting that one | 10:26 |
| * markus_z is a sad panda | 10:26 | |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: its APIs and version bumps that really worry me | 10:26 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, posting it now | 10:26 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: cools, thanks for looking into that | 10:26 |
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| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: too bad. You did an awesome job. Enjoy the less stress you will have :) | 10:26 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, it really shouldn't have slipped :/ | 10:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: Revert "virt: reserved hugepages on compute host" https://review.openstack.org/292290 | 10:27 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, ^ | 10:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: stuff happens, just happy to have the conversation before its released in a tag | 10:28 |
| ndipanov | yeah | 10:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Swapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/nova: Replace deprecated LOG.warn with LOG.warning https://review.openstack.org/264133 | 10:32 |
| mdbooth | sdague: gstepanov covered that over here, btw: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290410/ | 10:32 |
| mdbooth | Also another cleanup | 10:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Swapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/nova: Replace deprecated LOG.warn with LOG.warning https://review.openstack.org/292199 | 10:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dongcan Ye proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Always update image size for sparse image https://review.openstack.org/291203 | 10:39 |
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| pkoniszewski | markus_z: sure, sorry for the delay, just started to work on this | 10:41 |
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| markus_z | pkoniszewski: OK, cool. When you use "DocImpact" in the future just add more explanation in the git commit message, then you won't get pestered by me :) | 10:43 |
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| pkoniszewski | markus_z: what do you mean by 'more explanation'? I've never written anything to docs in OS yer | 10:45 |
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| mdbooth | pkoniszewski: I think that pretty much describes why the process was changed ;) | 10:47 |
| markus_z | pkoniszewski: In short, the manuals team should be able to update the docs with this information. http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088382.html | 10:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Feng Xi Yan proposed openstack/nova: <VMWARE> Add power state cache in compute manager https://review.openstack.org/242006 | 11:39 |
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| tbachman | p!spy | 11:43 |
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| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, | 11:50 |
| ndipanov | I just read the other comments on the original review | 11:50 |
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| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, I don't think that we can get that fix in though in any way since it requires a db migration likely | 11:51 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: a small db migration might be OK today/tomorrow, but I am hoping to tag RC1 tomorrow, after which point we can't merge any till we get grenade updated (AFAIK). | 11:59 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, I don't think it's realistic but thanks for considering | 12:00 |
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| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, I'll ping you if there's a patch up soon though just to take a look | 12:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: no worries, we can still backport a db migration, once we have grenade updated, so it shouldn't be too much of a delay | 12:05 |
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| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, so thinking about this more - it could be just the objects hack really which requires a version bump since we can stach that with the rest of the numa json | 12:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: hmm, I was forgetting about object versions... yuck. | 12:10 |
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| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, yeah... | 12:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | YaoZheng proposed openstack/nova: After migrate in-use volume the BDM information lost This flag delete_on_termination is important for use, but after the volume migration, this flag is the hardcoded "false". It should be consistent with the information on the migration before. https://review.openstack.org/288433 | 12:14 |
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| permalac | Hello guys, I would like use cinder as backend, so I will be able to migrate the instances to other KVM . | 12:22 |
| permalac | Do I have to set up cinder on all nova.conf (controllers and kvm ) , or only the nova-volume has to be edited? | 12:23 |
| mdbooth | permalac: You probably want to take that question to #openstack | 12:23 |
| mdbooth | (see #topic) | 12:23 |
| permalac | ops . so sorry. Thanks. | 12:24 |
| mdbooth | np | 12:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: WIP: live migration in RESCUED state https://review.openstack.org/292350 | 12:26 |
| mdbooth | gstepanov: Does that work? | 12:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Add checks for driver attach_interfaces capability https://review.openstack.org/272471 | 12:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yingxin Cheng proposed openstack/nova: Quota expiration through conductors https://review.openstack.org/292362 | 12:49 |
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| ayasakov | hi. Could you help with information about getting user data from outside instance? Is it possible? | 12:52 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: network: make nova to handle port_security_enabled=False https://review.openstack.org/284095 | 12:52 |
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| tdurakov | mdbooth, gstepanov I feel that live-migration of resqued instance should be much trickier rather then just allowing it over decorator | 12:57 |
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| tdurakov | what about original domain xml for example? will it be migrated? | 12:58 |
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| pkoniszewski | markus_z: added description to force complete, can you take a look if it is enough https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1544044/comments/5 ? | 13:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1544044 in OpenStack Compute (nova) " Add new API to force live migration to complete" [Low,Confirmed] | 13:15 |
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| diana_clarke | Morning folks! My maternity leave is over, and I've come to play in your sandbox again. Ping me if you have any thoughts on how I can best help. | 13:25 |
| markus_z | pkoniszewski: I assume this will land here: http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-compute-v2.1.html#listMigrations ? | 13:26 |
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| markus_z | pkoniszewski: We won't get a response body when enforcing the completion? | 13:26 |
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| pkoniszewski | markus_z: it is new server-migrations resource, os-migrations since 2.25 microversion links to server-migrations | 13:27 |
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| pkoniszewski | markus_z: yes, no response body | 13:27 |
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| markus_z | pkoniszewski: OK, cool, thanks. I route it to the manuals team. | 13:30 |
| pkoniszewski | markus_z: thanks! in case something more is needed i will be happy to help | 13:30 |
| ayasakov | Hi, folks. Could you help with information about getting user data from outside instance? Is it possible? | 13:31 |
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| markus_z | ndipanov: Could you check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288433/3 please? Would be a nice fix. | 13:34 |
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| cdent | p!spy | 13:35 |
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| markus_z | gcb: you around? | 13:39 |
| gcb | hi markus_z | 13:39 |
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| markus_z | gcb: Hey, do you have a minute? I'm looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1471168 and I'm wondering if this is still open. | 13:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1471168 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "config option 's parameter choices can check value before using it" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to ChangBo Guo(gcb) (glongwave) | 13:40 |
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| gcb | markus_z it should be closed :-) | 13:41 |
| markus_z | gcb: Would you leave a comment which explains the current state and set it to the correct status please? | 13:42 |
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| markus_z | gcb: I couldn't determine if this is done or not. | 13:42 |
| gcb | markus_z, will update soon | 13:42 |
| markus_z | gcb: thanks a lot! | 13:42 |
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| ndipanov | markus_z, well I am not super convinced we want that fixed tbh | 13:43 |
| ndipanov | as I commented already | 13:44 |
| markus_z | ndipanov: Oh, I must have missed that comment. | 13:44 |
| markus_z | lemme read | 13:44 |
| gcb | anyone knows when nova will have stable branch stable/mitaka ? | 13:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: DNM: check how functional test act https://review.openstack.org/292394 | 13:48 |
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| johnthetubaguy | gcb | 13:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | oops | 13:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | gcb: yes, once we tag RC1 tomorrow | 13:51 |
| gcb | johnthetubaguy, thanks | 13:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | gcb: np | 13:52 |
| gcb | johnthetubaguy, is there a etherpad link to collect ideas for Austin summit ? | 13:52 |
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| johnthetubaguy | gcb: I don't think we have one yet, I meant to create one the other day actually | 13:52 |
| gcb | johnthetubaguy, thanks , I will attend the design summit, will do some homework before join Nova sessions. :-) | 13:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Wenzhi Yu proposed openstack/nova: Make sure destination will rollback if live migration fails https://review.openstack.org/270093 | 13:56 |
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| mriedem | it's quiet in here | 14:11 |
| ndipanov | ohai mriedem | 14:11 |
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| ndipanov | mriedem, you have a good point here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290793/ | 14:12 |
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| mriedem | ndipanov: was i way off on your reserve bdm change? | 14:12 |
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| ndipanov | mriedem, nope right on the money | 14:12 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: i needed to read more into scottda_vacation's comment, | 14:12 |
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| mriedem | because i know on detach there is a roll_detaching in cinderclient, | 14:13 |
| mriedem | which takes the volume from 'detaching' back to 'in-use' | 14:13 |
| mriedem | seems like there should be a roll_attaching | 14:13 |
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| ndipanov | mriedem, that's unreserve | 14:14 |
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| ndipanov | except it tries to be smart | 14:14 |
| ndipanov | and as usual fails | 14:14 |
| mriedem | yeah, i guess | 14:14 |
| mriedem | so it puts it into in-use even though it's not attached | 14:14 |
| mriedem | that seems like a bug in cinder | 14:14 |
| smcginnis | mriedem: Which on is this? | 14:14 |
| mriedem | i.e. if you call unreserve and there are no volume attachments for that volume id and instance uuid, it should just put the volume back to 'available' | 14:14 |
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| mriedem | smcginnis: unreserve | 14:15 |
| ndipanov | wait a sec | 14:15 |
| ndipanov | it puts it into available normally | 14:15 |
| mriedem | smcginnis: see scottda's comment here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290793/ | 14:15 |
| ndipanov | unless we are racing with attach | 14:15 |
| ndipanov | :( | 14:15 |
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| ndipanov | afaict | 14:15 |
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| ndipanov | https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/api.py#L584 | 14:15 |
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| ndipanov | mriedem, smcginnis ^ | 14:18 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: yeah that looks right | 14:18 |
| mriedem | unreserve puts it in 'in-use' if there are attachments, else back to 'available' | 14:19 |
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| ndipanov | mriedem, how is that right :) | 14:19 |
| smcginnis | So I think that was the race scottda_vacation was pointing out? | 14:19 |
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| mriedem | or that logic could be for multiattach scenarios | 14:20 |
| mriedem | where you can have multiple attachments, and as long as there is one, it's status should be 'in-use' | 14:20 |
| ndipanov | mriedem, that is beyond bad | 14:20 |
| smcginnis | mriedem: Well, it kind of makes sense. If there are attachments, we should say it's being used. | 14:20 |
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| ndipanov | no it doesn't make sense to call that when there are attachments - it's just a hack to make multiattach work | 14:21 |
| * smcginnis wonders if multiattach is worth all the pain | 14:21 | |
| ndipanov | which is a hack around our broken process | 14:21 |
| ndipanov | where you have 3 seconds to land code or you get slapped in the face by a feature freeze | 14:21 |
| ndipanov | so no one actually does any thinking - and I don't blame them | 14:22 |
| mriedem | do we call unreserve anywhere else in nova? | 14:22 |
| ndipanov | there's no fsckn time to do it | 14:22 |
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| mriedem | ndipanov: well, in this change of yours and the bug itself, the bug was saying, i create an instance and a volume, i attach the volume, and then i try to attach a 2nd time and that fails, which it should, | 14:23 |
| mriedem | but it leaves behind the 2nd bdm entry in the database | 14:23 |
| ndipanov | mriedem, not always though | 14:23 |
| ndipanov | normally it gets cleaned up | 14:23 |
| ndipanov | however if the second bdm create RPC times out | 14:23 |
| ndipanov | or the api where the cleanup is goes down | 14:23 |
| ndipanov | then the BDM remains | 14:23 |
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| krotscheck | markus_z: The cors config bug is new in mitaka, here's the relevant patch that introduced it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265415/ | 14:25 |
| ndipanov | which is enough to trip up further stuff being done on the instance | 14:25 |
| ndipanov | mriedem, ^ | 14:25 |
| * krotscheck commented on https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1556969 too | 14:25 | |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1556969 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "register the config generator default hook with the right name" [High,New] | 14:25 |
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| mriedem | ndipanov: b/c we don't have the UC on bdm | 14:25 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: i'm assuming the db migration you were talking about earlier is for putting a unique constraint on the bdm table | 14:25 |
| ndipanov | mriedem, yeah | 14:25 |
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| mriedem | ndipanov: we could also revive dansmith's bdm.uuid chnages | 14:25 |
| mriedem | *changes | 14:25 |
| ndipanov | mriedem, I think I thought of a reason why that wouldn't work | 14:26 |
| ndipanov | so it's kind of like a one to many bdm.uuid to instance_attachments ? | 14:26 |
| markus_z | krotscheck: Is that already the answer to my ML question some seconds ago? :o | 14:26 |
| krotscheck | markus_z: You asked a question on the ML? | 14:27 |
| * krotscheck goes to check. | 14:27 | |
| markus_z | krotscheck: http://markmail.org/message/7nlhycexw6qdmdkb?q=thread:7nlhycexw6qdmdkb | 14:27 |
| * krotscheck noticed your comment on the review, since he's babysitting all the CORS bugs. | 14:27 | |
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| krotscheck | Ah, yes. | 14:27 |
| krotscheck | Lemme go answer this. | 14:28 |
| markus_z | krotscheck: Ah :) Still very fast. | 14:28 |
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| markus_z | krotscheck: Yeah, I guess the other projects will have that question too | 14:28 |
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| mriedem | ndipanov: the bdm.uuid thing came up for a cells boot from volume race, before i was really looking at the cinder multiattach stuff, i haven't thought yet about how the bdm.uuid thing would work with multiattach, or if it would cause issues | 14:28 |
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| krotscheck | markus_z: Huhn- I don't even have your message yet. | 14:29 |
| ndipanov | mriedem, can you link me the patches? | 14:29 |
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| mriedem | ndipanov: there are 2 in a series here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242602/ | 14:29 |
| mriedem | one for the db model, one for the bdm object | 14:30 |
| mriedem | have to run to a meeting now | 14:30 |
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| ndipanov | mriedem_meeting, k thanks | 14:30 |
| markus_z | krotscheck: There it is http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/089228.html | 14:30 |
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| krotscheck | And responded. | 14:31 |
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| krotscheck | markus_z: Yep. | 14:31 |
| krotscheck | markus_z: responded | 14:31 |
| krotscheck | Anyway | 14:31 |
| markus_z | excellent, thanks! | 14:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Redundant parentheses removed https://review.openstack.org/290410 | 14:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: make the opaque network attachment more robust https://review.openstack.org/284121 | 14:38 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: make the opaque network attachment more robust https://review.openstack.org/284121 | 14:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: WIP: experiments with RST and API docs https://review.openstack.org/292420 | 14:44 |
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| mriedem | ndipanov: so back on the bdm unique constraint thing, one issue would be, i think there are times when a bdm exists with None for the volume_id or instance uuid | 15:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova-specs: Move networking tables to the API db. https://review.openstack.org/291382 | 15:00 |
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| mriedem | ndipanov: volume_id is None when booting from volume with an image or snapshot, we do'nt have the volume_id for the BDM until nova creates the volume in nova.virt.block_device | 15:01 |
| mriedem | we should have an instance uuid set by then though | 15:01 |
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| mriedem | ndipanov: from what i remember, the main advantage of the bdm.uuid was to not rely on the create_or_update call from the API cell | 15:02 |
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| alaski | uuid would be nice becuase right now lookups rely on device_name which is mutable | 15:03 |
| mriedem | yeah that too | 15:03 |
| mriedem | the db api and api cell code assumes the keys are volume_id and device_name | 15:03 |
| mriedem | which both change | 15:03 |
| alaski | yeah | 15:03 |
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| mriedem | i think volume_id and instance_uuid in a UC would be good, but, the volume_id=None case messes that up if you have multiattach | 15:04 |
| mriedem | but i think that's really only the boot from volume case, | 15:04 |
| mriedem | which we might have said we don't support with multiattach volumes, i don't remember, ildikov_ might, or it was supposed to be clarified in the spec | 15:04 |
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| alaski | I remember that being said | 15:05 |
| mriedem | i remember lots of things being said, just not exactly where we ended up :) | 15:06 |
| mriedem | which is why i asked for the spec to be updated | 15:06 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: so i think we can still move forward on your patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290793/ | 15:08 |
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| ndipanov | mriedem, so try to get one and if there is two log something like | 15:10 |
| ndipanov | "human - you need to clean me now" | 15:10 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: yeah, log a warning that we can't determine which to delete | 15:10 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: right, 'i'm a baby and can't clean myself, wah' | 15:10 |
| mriedem | and eventually we could make that go away with a unique constraint | 15:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Line continuation https://review.openstack.org/292443 | 15:11 |
| ndipanov | mriedem, ok - pragmatic - me like | 15:11 |
| ndipanov | will update now | 15:11 |
| anteaya | hello nova, just in case you might be talking with any third party operators who work behind a firewall, the gerrit ip is changing next month: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088985.html | 15:11 |
| ndipanov | actually when I'm done with this thing I'm doing | 15:11 |
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| mriedem | tdurakov: sdague: i remember there was talk about moving the live migration tests into a single job, which would repeat on itself for different configs, like shared storage, block migration, volume-backed, | 15:12 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: sdague: is that still being worked on? | 15:12 |
| sdague | mriedem: tdurakov is working on it | 15:12 |
| mriedem | sdague: ok, thanks | 15:12 |
| tdurakov | mriedem: hey | 15:12 |
| tdurakov | it's on experimental pipeline | 15:12 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: i was just checking to make sure that was still something being worked on | 15:12 |
| tdurakov | same stability as multinode job | 15:13 |
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| tdurakov | mriedem: ^ | 15:13 |
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| tdurakov | mriedem: want to duplicate it with latest libvirt/qemu once devstack plugin is ready, to check things become better with latest libvirt/qemu | 15:14 |
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| mriedem | tdurakov: ok, that makes sense | 15:15 |
| mriedem | yeah the 75% failure rate for multinode is less than great | 15:15 |
| tdurakov | yes:( | 15:15 |
| tdurakov | mriedem: so functionality for live-migration is finished, there are plans to add additional scenarios but the main problem now is stability isssue | 15:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Trivial: Use exact docstring for quota module https://review.openstack.org/292449 | 15:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Bachman proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Use Port Group and Key in binding details https://review.openstack.org/288076 | 15:28 |
| ildikov_ | mriedem: hi | 15:30 |
| mriedem | oops, meeting :) | 15:30 |
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| ildikov_ | mriedem: just read back some of the logs, and yes boot from multiattach volume is planned to be disabled | 15:31 |
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| ildikov_ | mriedem_meeting: have a good one :) | 15:31 |
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| cdent | johnthetubaguy: I'm mostly likely not going to be at summit but I think there should be a few hail-mary sessions like: "Splitting nove-compute into its own repo" | 15:34 |
| doffm | cdent: Wow. | 15:34 |
| cdent | (not necessarily actually to do, but to keep the ideas flowing, and the blue skying happening) | 15:34 |
| cdent | doffm: well, I did say "hail mary" | 15:35 |
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| cdent | healthily disruptive | 15:36 |
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| doffm | :) You did | 15:37 |
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| johnthetubaguy | cdent: thats good stuff for the Friday afternoon, were we have the more midcycle like discussion | 15:45 |
| cdent | johnthetubaguy: I only have a tiny brain, I can't cope with these giant code dumps | 15:46 |
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| cdent | makes me want to run and hide | 15:46 |
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| dansmith | everything becomes much harder if we do that | 15:47 |
| dansmith | landing things in three-step dances where it affects both sides | 15:47 |
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| johnthetubaguy | cdent: would just a better structure help you? so its clear what stuff is in nova-compute, like move virt under compute? | 15:47 |
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| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: thats massive loose we would have, particularly for bug fixes | 15:48 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: yeah | 15:48 |
| cdent | johnthetubaguy: It has more to do with socio-potical alignment with smaller is better and separation leads to be better contract management | 15:48 |
| PaulMurray | mdbooth, are you likely to go to the summit ? | 15:48 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: we'd have it for objects and rpc, which would make a lot of things hard | 15:48 |
| mdbooth | PaulMurray: Yup. I'll definitely be at summit. | 15:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: ah, you thinking storage pools? | 15:48 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, you bet | 15:48 |
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| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: mdbooth: :) | 15:49 |
| cdent | dansmith: could an argument be made that our solutions to "landing things" are the way they are as a result of an earlier broken architecture and now that solution enforces its continued existence? | 15:49 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, was just about to add to the summit ideas page | 15:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: coolness | 15:49 |
| dansmith | cdent: I don't understand that sentence | 15:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Wenzhi Yu proposed openstack/nova: Make sure destination will rollback if live migration fails https://review.openstack.org/270093 | 15:50 |
| cdent | dansmith: basically we built some solutions to a set of problems and now we have another set of problems because of those solutions | 15:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: I was just wondering about live-migrate follow up stuff, I guess the big bit is storage pools, although we probably need quite a bit of ground work, so there is productive discussion on that | 15:50 |
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| cdent | dansmith: we're locked in | 15:50 |
| dansmith | cdent: then no, I don't agree with that statement | 15:50 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, yes, agreed | 15:51 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, there are a few other things around migrations to do with cleaning up the code and using state machines etc. | 15:51 |
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| dansmith | cdent: we have problems landing things across cinder and nova, or glance and nova, such that some people have even suggested that some projects should be merged at times | 15:52 |
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| dansmith | cdent: because even with strong contracts, it can be hard to get fixes in when things break | 15:52 |
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| jroll | we should probably merge ironic and nova too | 15:55 |
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| dansmith | jroll: if we do, will you be our ptl? | 15:55 |
| dansmith | please? :) | 15:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Add console log offset https://review.openstack.org/292473 | 15:55 |
| jroll | I do have patches in nova this cycle, want me to run? | 15:55 |
| dansmith | hah | 15:56 |
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| cdent | everyone should run | 15:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Console log offset argument https://review.openstack.org/292479 | 16:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh dear, a hostile takeover bid | 16:03 |
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| doffm | Who wants to discuss quotas and cellsv2 with me? It might be less controversial. | 16:11 |
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| doffm | Basically the 'Quota' object is a wrapper around the 'quota.py' api rather than the db models themselves. | 16:13 |
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| doffm | So... if we move the quota models to the API db.... Where should the live data migration logic go. | 16:13 |
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| doffm | So far the idea was to put that in the objects. | 16:13 |
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| cdent | p!spy | 16:39 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: virt: reserved hugepages on compute host https://review.openstack.org/292499 | 16:40 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: livirt: handle reserved pages size https://review.openstack.org/292500 | 16:40 |
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| johnthetubaguy | doffm: yeah, just follow the model for the api_db I think? | 16:55 |
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| doffm | johnthetubaguy: And put the live-data-migrate logic in the Quota object? | 16:56 |
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| mriedem | Swami: carl_baldwin: is this a latent bug or a regression in mitaka? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1456073 | 16:57 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1456073 in neutron "Connection to an instance with floating IP breaks during block migration when using DVR" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 16:57 |
| mriedem | i get the feeling it's latent | 16:57 |
| Swami | mriedem: this is not a regression in Mitaka. | 16:58 |
| doffm | That matches best the architechture we are following. | 16:58 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: livirt: handle reserved pages size https://review.openstack.org/292500 | 16:58 |
| doffm | But will leave us in a mutual dependency between the Quota object and the quota.py api. | 16:59 |
| Swami | mriedem:This is a latent bug. Since this setup_networks_on_host has not been implemented for neutron and regular neutron routers, were not affected by this, but only dvr routers since we are distributed. This is a latent bug. | 16:59 |
| mriedem | Swami: ok, thanks | 16:59 |
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| johnthetubaguy | doffm: yeah, we should avoid the circle, the nova-manage stuff could call an object I think, if needed | 17:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | doffm: honestly, see what reads the best | 17:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | doffm: I think the migration stuff went into the db api.py just because it can be multi-object sometimes | 17:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | doffm: we could move that somewhere slightly different, if its causing problems | 17:02 |
| dave-mcnally | mriedem, you removed a catch_notimplemented decorator from test_live_migration a little while ago. I understand it was masking a legitimate failure but as you said in the commit the point of those decorators is to prevent failures for other drivers (that change has already broken nova-dockers tests). I don't suppose you've got any ideas on how to fix the issue so other drivers won't fail the tests? Seems like if you're goi | 17:04 |
| dave-mcnally | ng to remove the decorator from one test you may as well remove it from all since it's no longer providing a consistent way to deal with the problem. | 17:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add Allocation and AllocationList objects https://review.openstack.org/282442 | 17:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add ResourcePool object https://review.openstack.org/284963 | 17:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add a get_by_uuid for aggregates https://review.openstack.org/284895 | 17:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add name to ResourceProvider object https://review.openstack.org/281945 | 17:05 |
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| mriedem | dave-mcnally: see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290134/ | 17:06 |
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| mriedem | dave-mcnally: where in the nova-docker repo is that being tested for test_virt_drivers? | 17:07 |
| mriedem | or it's not, that repo just drops into nova? | 17:07 |
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| dave-mcnally | mriedem, it drops into nova | 17:09 |
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| dave-mcnally | mriedem, OK I'll keep an eye on that change, thanks | 17:13 |
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| mriedem | dave-mcnally: that won't land in mitaka | 17:14 |
| dave-mcnally | nuts | 17:15 |
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| mriedem | thorst_afk: ^ did that break the nova-powervm driver too? | 17:16 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I guess there is lxd as well | 17:16 |
| dave-mcnally | don't suppose you've any other suggestions - keep in mind I'm not going to implement live migration in nova -docker :) | 17:17 |
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| doffm | johnthetubaguy: Ok, thanks. | 17:17 |
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| mriedem | dave-mcnally: i wasn't really thinking (obviously) about out of tree drivers, or how they are doing their testing, | 17:17 |
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| mriedem | dave-mcnally: like, i have no idea if powervm or lxd also testing their drivers by dropping them into a nova repo's tree and running tests | 17:17 |
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| dave-mcnally | mriedem, me neither, I've only recently been looking at nova-docker and happend to stumble across this | 17:18 |
| dave-mcnally | I was just trying to push a small fix | 17:18 |
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| cdent | johnthetubaguy, jaypipes, sdague : do I recall correctly from mid-cycle that it is okay to not use the nova wsgi model in the api for resource-pools: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253187/ ? | 17:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: I am not sure I actually understand what that means, no paste.ini file? | 17:22 |
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| cdent | johnthetubaguy: using a common python web framework instead of the nova homecooked one | 17:23 |
| thorst_ | mriedem: I'm looking at the change set. I think it will 'break' us, but I think that we would just need to update to support this new exception. I don't think we would have too many places to change though. | 17:23 |
| mriedem | thorst_: well, it would only fail if you're dropping your code into nova's tree and running the tests | 17:24 |
| cdent | johnthetubaguy: but I guess, yeah, part of that could (but wouldn't have to) be not using paste | 17:24 |
| mriedem | thorst_: does powervm do that? | 17:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: honestly, it feels like its worth throwing up a prototype of what it looks like | 17:24 |
| thorst_ | mriedem: dropping code into the nova tree == rewrite methods of nova itself or monkey patch? | 17:25 |
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| thorst_ | which we don't do. | 17:25 |
| mriedem | thorst_: no, like git clone nova, then cp the powervm driver into nova/virt/ and then running tox on nova | 17:25 |
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| thorst_ | mriedem: No, we don't do that | 17:25 |
| cdent | johnthetubaguy: I was hoping to just unleash the memory from mid-cycle because I know we talked about it but am struggling to recall the details. | 17:25 |
| mriedem | dave-mcnally: i assume ^ is what you're doing? | 17:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: my main worry is about making deployers have to do too many different things, I don't remember us agreed a way forward with that | 17:26 |
| dave-mcnally | mriedem, It looks like that what the project is doing, dunno if I'd like to take personal responsibility | 17:26 |
| * cdent nods | 17:26 | |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: it feels like this stuff is best to throw up a quick prototype of what you think makes sense, with those aims in mind, I guess you were thinking flask, based on that ML thread? | 17:27 |
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| cdent | johnthetubaguy: I hadn't really decided any particular direciton. The reason it came up today was because I was trying to figure out what was missing from the ResourcePool object and thought one way to figure that out would be to start hacking on the API-related stuff | 17:28 |
| cdent | but then I started digging out in the existing api code and found myself swimming a bit and thought I would check back in with the real plans so that I didn't go off to far into random-land | 17:29 |
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| johnthetubaguy | cdent: I don't think we agreed those, honestly, its largely why I asked for that API bit to be in a separate spec | 17:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/nova: Implement setup_networks_on_host for Neutron networks https://review.openstack.org/275073 | 17:30 |
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| cdent | johnthetubaguy: that makes some sense, but on the other hand the API should be the thing that is driving the content of the object and its interface, not the other way round. | 17:30 |
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| cdent | Otherwise you end up trying to guess too much about what's needed. | 17:31 |
| cdent | (I'd argue that problem has been present through the entire resource-* stack) | 17:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: so the drive was purely to migrate the existing compute node structures, as a first step, as I understand it | 17:32 |
| cdent | johnthetubaguy: yes, and that seems to be mostly in hand, but I'm down the other branch of that tree: the shared/generic resource pools | 17:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: the extra bits in there were just to just try an avoid costly schema migrations, by putting stuff where we think its mostly likely to go, at least as I read it. | 17:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, I see | 17:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | so thats the, get shared storage info into DB aim? | 17:33 |
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| cdent | johnthetubaguy: effectively | 17:34 |
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| johnthetubaguy | and there is the other bit, of, scheduler fetch data from new place, filter out things with no space, and scheduler start making claims stuff. | 17:34 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so I mixed a few up there, but anyways | 17:35 |
| cdent | you sound pretty much in the right place | 17:35 |
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| johnthetubaguy | cdent: so I think the other uncertain bit with all that, is what to do given we didn't get that compute node inventory stuff in this cycle, it really messes up the upgrade plans | 17:37 |
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| cdent | johnthetubaguy: yeah, I'm not entirely clear on the ramifications of all that | 17:38 |
| flwang1 | greetings, i have a question about nova scheduler. any comments will be appreciated. | 17:39 |
| flwang1 | now we're going to support windows image on our public cloud, and we would like nova scheduler can schedule all the windows instance on some specific host which have the windows license | 17:40 |
| flwang1 | it can be done by aggregate_image_properties_isolation filter | 17:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: for the API bits, I think if you want to change away from our wsgi mess, lets get a prototype up, I just worry if its too different, its going to cause problems | 17:41 |
| flwang1 | but we have another requirement, we would like to to fill a host firstly before using another one to reduce the license cost | 17:41 |
| cdent | johnthetubaguy: I'll see what falls out of my explorations this evening. Thanks. | 17:41 |
| flwang1 | seems we can use the affinity weight, but based on my understanding, weighter are global concept | 17:42 |
| flwang1 | so if we give affinity weight big value, it will impact all the schedules, right? | 17:42 |
| flwang1 | anybody can help? thanks | 17:42 |
| doffm | flwang1: So you want to have different weighers dependent on the aggregate? | 17:43 |
| flwang1 | doffm: yes | 17:43 |
| flwang1 | doffm: see my above background? does that make sense? | 17:43 |
| doffm | flwang1: As far as I'm aware not possible right now. | 17:43 |
| flwang1 | that's our current requirement | 17:43 |
| doffm | flwang1: And yes, it makes sense for your situation. I guess. I don't know much about windows licences. | 17:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, thats not currently possible, unless you are running cells v1, which creates a different set of issues | 17:44 |
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| johnthetubaguy | you could create your own weighter that combines those two, but its messy | 17:45 |
| doffm | flwang1: It might be possible to create a custom weigher that does what you are asking for. | 17:45 |
| doffm | Ahhh. Snap. | 17:45 |
| flwang1 | doffm: but it's hard to let the weighter to respect aggregation, no? | 17:46 |
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| johnthetubaguy | flwang1: you can just re-use the filter code to chose the weight for each host, I think | 17:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | but its messy | 17:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | there was a blueprint, but its never been implemented: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/aggregate-scheduler-filter | 17:47 |
| doffm | flwang1: Yeah, thats where the messy is coming from. Snap again. I'll leave this to johnthetubaguy. :) | 17:47 |
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| johnthetubaguy | this is actually where the scheduler that bisects requests to different hosts could help, I wan that for cells v2 related efforts | 17:48 |
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| doffm | johnthetubaguy: I want that scheduler also. Its not so much a scheduler as a request router. | 17:49 |
| flwang1 | johnthetubaguy: i can't really follow it, based on my understanding, aggregate_image_properties_isolation.py can respect the aggregate | 17:49 |
| doffm | Only looks at properties of the request rather than resource usage. | 17:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | doffm: so I need to write it up, the router just sends the requests to two separate scheduers, each scheduler as a distinct subset of hosts | 17:50 |
| doffm | johnthetubaguy: Exactly that. | 17:50 |
| flwang1 | see https://github.com/openstack/nova/tree/master/nova/scheduler/filters | 17:50 |
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| sdague | cdent: there's a few too many things that depend on paste in the ecosystem, so getting rid of that is probably really hard. But you could actually use flask instead of our home grown bits there. | 17:51 |
| flwang1 | there are some filters with prefix 'aggregate' | 17:51 |
| doffm | flwang1: For your current situation it may be possible to create a custom weigher using the existing code. The BaseWeigher class doesn't have access to the aggregates. | 17:51 |
| doffm | But it does have a list of weighed_obj_list. It may be possible to determine the aggregate from that list and return a weight accordingly. | 17:52 |
| flwang1 | doffm: yep, i see. so your above discussion is really about weighter instead of filters, right? | 17:52 |
| cdent | sdague: I'm trying to shake things out now: basically use paste to load up the basic and then leave thing open for inside the actual app | 17:52 |
| flwang1 | doffm: i mean about "(06:50:22) johnthetubaguy: doffm: so I need to write it up, the router just sends the requests to two separate scheduers, each scheduler as a distinct subset of hosts | 17:53 |
| flwang1 | (06:50:37) doffm: johnthetubaguy: Exactly that." | 17:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: I am curious how the json schema and exception handling looks between those | 17:53 |
| doffm | flwang1: Right, but thats discussion of future work, nothing that exists at the moment. | 17:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | flwang1: we only really have that well cells v1 today, sadly, the work around is to create a custom weigher I think | 17:53 |
| cdent | johnthetubaguy: there are many ways, as usual | 17:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: thats cool, I guess its just easier to judge if its do-able when you see a prototype, I will shut up so that happens quicker :) | 17:54 |
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| sdague | cdent: yeh, that should be fine. The middleware in the pipeline is something we'll need one way or another. In the interest of not changing the whole world at once, I would mostly look at keeping the paste loader, and do something a bit different in the call stack | 17:54 |
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| * cdent nods at both sdague and johnthetubaguy | 17:55 | |
| flwang1 | johnthetubaguy: so the above discussion b/w your and doffm is about supporting aggregate for weighter given filters have already supported aggregate, is it? | 17:55 |
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| doffm | flwang1: In a sense, yes. If that work was completed it would be possible to do what you are asking without writing a custom weigher. | 18:00 |
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| flwang1 | doffm: cool, will it happen in N? | 18:01 |
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| doffm | flwang1: No idea, early stages. Sorry. | 18:01 |
| flwang1 | doffm: understand, thanks for all the comments | 18:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/nova: Testing - DO NOT MERGE https://review.openstack.org/292536 | 18:03 |
| flwang1 | doffm: johnthetubaguy: btw, do you think the aggregate-xxx weigther can be upstreamed just like what we did for filters? | 18:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | flwang1: unsure, my preference would be to help build (or at least review/test) the request router idea. | 18:05 |
| flwang1 | johnthetubaguy: is there a bp or spec for the request router idea? | 18:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Bachman proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Use Port Group and Key in binding details https://review.openstack.org/288076 | 18:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | flwang1: I don't know of one I am afraid | 18:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | flwang1: writing one is on my TODO list, I added it to the design summit ideas list: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-summit-ideas | 18:23 |
| flwang1 | johnthetubaguy: thanks | 18:25 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: | 18:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Avoid lazy-loads of ec2_ids on Instance https://review.openstack.org/291898 | 18:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: DNM: Expose instance lazy-loads in our test runs that can be squashed https://review.openstack.org/274714 | 18:26 |
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| mriedem | ooo | 18:28 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: made that change in the cells scheduler, we'll see if it works | 18:29 |
| dansmith | didn't give it much more thought | 18:30 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: i was making that same change this weekend but didn't push it up b/c i added a unit test change for it and it was failing in odd ways | 18:30 |
| mriedem | so i gave up | 18:30 |
| dansmith | well, there's your problem | 18:30 |
| dansmith | tests. | 18:30 |
| mriedem | god i know | 18:31 |
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| mriedem | markus_z: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291910/ fixes https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1556969 right? | 18:34 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1556969 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "register the config generator default hook with the right name" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Doug Hellmann (doug-hellmann) | 18:34 |
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| vilobhmm11 | alaski : ping | 18:53 |
| alaski | vilobhmm11: hi | 18:54 |
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| dims | mriedem : w00t (saw the candidacy email) | 18:54 |
| vilobhmm11 | alaski regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284454/4/specs/quota-library.rst you said get rid of reservations ? | 18:54 |
| mriedem | dims: wish i would have caught the two typos before sending that out... | 18:54 |
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| vilobhmm11 | how do we guarantee that 2 request which are running concurently will not end up erroring out if there is no concept of reservation…with your suggestion wouldn't it be that it would be until later that the request fail depending on which request executed before the other one | 18:55 |
| vilobhmm11 | alaski : ^^ | 18:55 |
| alaski | vilobhmm11: I'm saying that the idea should be reexamined before just porting it over | 18:56 |
| vilobhmm11 | alaski : sure | 18:57 |
| alaski | vilobhmm11: what I suggested was instead of a reservation just track the usage instead. for two requests when the second one goes to claim resources it would fail if that goes over quota | 18:57 |
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| vilobhmm11 | alaski : but without reservation aren't we delaying the resource consumpiton part till the commit is actually done ? is that a good approach is what my question is? | 18:57 |
| alaski | vilobhmm11: that would not be a good approach. I would move the commit to before the resource consumption | 18:58 |
| alaski | assume it will work, then update usage if it doesn't | 18:58 |
| alaski | that's basically what the reservation does. I'm not understanding the benefit of doing it in two steps, which is what I asked about | 18:59 |
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| vilobhmm11 | alaski : flow might look like #1. nova boot cli #2. commit the #of resource depending on request (source of truth being the quota.usages table) #3. go to scheduling pick up a host to boot the instance on #4. on nova-compute side claim the commited resources in #2 | 19:00 |
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| vilobhmm11 | alaski : or are you thinking of something else ? | 19:02 |
| alaski | vilobhmm11: that's what I was thinking except nova-compute isn't claiming the resources, they were already commited up front | 19:03 |
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| vilobhmm11 | alaski : already commited upfront you mean here right https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/api.py#L1030 | 19:06 |
| vilobhmm11 | which happens to be the api layer | 19:07 |
| alaski | vilobhmm11: right, if we got rid of reservations and just had that commit usage. Before reservations are ported over I'd like to understand why we have them rather than just commiting immediately | 19:07 |
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| vilobhmm11 | alaski : makes sense | 19:08 |
| vilobhmm11 | will give it more thought | 19:08 |
| alaski | vilobhmm11: thanks | 19:08 |
| vilobhmm11 | alaski : what happens if the the quota is commited on the api but the compute does not have eneough resource …we "retry" right ? based on the quota consumption/commit on the api layer how will the nova-compute know how many resources to claim….is there some data structure used to handshake the api layer quota commit and nova-compute claim resources | 19:08 |
| alaski | vilobhmm11: the quota tracking and compute resource usage are both based on the flavor provided. | 19:10 |
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| vilobhmm11 | alaski : sure which is absolute in nature | 19:15 |
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| doffm | alaski: So is the quotas-reimagined spec on-hold for now? | 19:26 |
| doffm | While waiting for the outcome of above separate quotas library/service. | 19:26 |
| alaski | doffm: unless someone else picks up the banner, yeah | 19:27 |
| alaski | I just don't have the bandwidth for it | 19:27 |
| alaski | but I don't think it needs to be put on hold based on the planned separate thingy | 19:28 |
| doffm | alaski: Like everyone, we have a good deal of trouble with quotas here. | 19:28 |
| doffm | ccarmack was interested in working on it. (I think) | 19:29 |
| doffm | But who knows. | 19:29 |
| alaski | okay. well https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182445/ is up mostly to capture what was discussed in Vancouver(?) but I would love for someone else to run with it | 19:30 |
| ccarmack | doffm: what was the quotas-reimagined? Would that help with the usages getting stuck at the limit and preventing instances from being created? | 19:30 |
| doffm | ccarmack: It might. | 19:31 |
| doffm | Or at least make it easier to audit and see which resources have not been rolled back / removed. | 19:31 |
| ccarmack | doffm: I think if it makes the refresh less expensive to the db, then I could set max_age to something small | 19:31 |
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| ccarmack | doffm: reading the spec… are there really periodic resyncs in place? | 19:33 |
| alaski | part of my proposal was to eliminate the separate summary of quota, so quotas would be sum(usages) not some number in a db that we hope is up to date | 19:33 |
| alaski | ccarmack: max_age and until_refresh are the resync mechanisms, there's no periodic task that I'm aware of | 19:35 |
| ccarmack | alaski: oh sorry, I thought it was a doffm spec | 19:35 |
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| melwitt | doffm ccarmack alaski: I had tried to get that spec moving awhile back and where it landed in discussions at the summit was it would be good to dig deeper into the current state of quotas before redesigning it | 19:37 |
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| melwitt | we discussed some ideas like a suite of functional tests/exercises that could shake out the current issues (out of sync, etc) and could also be used to test out potential redesigns | 19:38 |
| alaski | melwitt: ahh, cool | 19:39 |
| ccarmack | melwitt: is there an etherpad with the notes? | 19:39 |
| doffm | melwitt: Like a load test to look at how things get out of sync? | 19:39 |
| mriedem | doffm: on, | 19:39 |
| mriedem | *no, | 19:39 |
| mriedem | doffm: when jogo looked at the problems before with syncing, | 19:40 |
| mriedem | it was really around services restarting | 19:40 |
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| doffm | I see. | 19:40 |
| mriedem | like boot an instance, it makes a reservation on quota, then restart nova-compute | 19:40 |
| melwitt | ccarmack: it was really informal and short, so no notes. the main idea was that before we redesign it would be good to know what's wrong with them currently and have ways to reproduce the problems | 19:40 |
| mriedem | there was a bug with some notes of his, which i had posted in the -dev list the last time this came up | 19:40 |
| mriedem | we should be able to recreate with a functional test...but those use the fake virt driver and are pretty fast | 19:41 |
| ccarmack | mriedem: were mq issues also a factor even if services aren't restarted? | 19:41 |
| mriedem | ccarmack: i don't remember hearing issues with MQ | 19:41 |
| mriedem | but MQ dropping is a problem for anything | 19:41 |
| melwitt | off the top of my head, the issues I know about are the potential for quotas to go out of sync during service restarts, and also the counting based quotas like keypairs can be exploited to go over the limit | 19:42 |
| mriedem | doffm: melwitt: ccarmack: here was the bug with jogo's notes https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1284424 | 19:43 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1284424 in tripleo "nova quota statistics can be incorrect" [High,Triaged] | 19:43 |
| ccarmack | mriedem, melwitt: so maybe a functional test that creates/deletes servers concurrently and also restarts the service | 19:43 |
| melwitt | so I could see value in enumerating the problems and having a corresponding functional test that will expose each problem | 19:43 |
| mriedem | ccarmack: yeah | 19:44 |
| mriedem | ccarmack: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/10587937/ | 19:44 |
| mriedem | "http://paste.ubuntu.com/10587937/ + restarting nova api services while the test " | 19:44 |
| ccarmack | ok, turn that into a func test and restart the service… but do the nova func tests use a real services or a mocked one? | 19:45 |
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| melwitt | it would allow us to determine whether or not it's possible to fix them with the current quota design, or help shape the redesign, and then also test and prove the redesign once the prototype is written | 19:45 |
| mriedem | ccarmack: it's a real service | 19:45 |
| mriedem | but a fake virt driver, | 19:45 |
| mriedem | and i think fake mq... | 19:45 |
| mriedem | ccarmack: you'd have to look at the fixtures used in nova/test.py | 19:46 |
| doffm | melwitt: The kepairs issue is interesting. I guess we could perform both the keypairs read and quota write in one database transaction. I mean thats what the ReservableResources are doing for consistency. | 19:46 |
| ccarmack | mriedem: would it better as a tempest scenario? | 19:46 |
| doffm | But that would require an api re-write for the countable resources. And i have no idea how performant it would be. | 19:46 |
| ccarmack | I believe there are stress tests in tempest | 19:46 |
| mriedem | ccarmack: no | 19:46 |
| mriedem | ccarmack: tempest tests run in parallel, | 19:47 |
| melwitt | doffm: here's the lp bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1301532 | 19:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1301532 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Quotas can be exceeded by making highly parallel requests" [Medium,Confirmed] | 19:47 |
| mriedem | so if you stop nova-compute in one test, a bunch of other tests are probably going to fail | 19:47 |
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| ccarmack | ok | 19:47 |
| doffm | melwitt: Thanls. | 19:47 |
| doffm | *thanks | 19:47 |
| ccarmack | mriedem, doffm, melwitt, alaski: It seems like a periodic resync tasks would run into perf/scale issues | 19:48 |
| melwitt | doffm: and here's an informative ML post about CountableResource http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/081334.html | 19:48 |
| alaski | ccarmack: definitely possible in a busy cloud | 19:50 |
| melwitt | ccarmack: I don't have the data on that but I think I had commonly heard at ops midcycles/sessions that it has to be set pretty frequent to avoid out of sync issues (once a minute?) | 19:51 |
| doffm | Once a minute, wow. | 19:52 |
| melwitt | BUT, I think I also recall hearing that out of sync isn't much of a problem anymore from the ops feedback. it would be good to collect the information that's likely out there about the current state from the ops perspective | 19:52 |
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| doffm | ccarmack: Did you jsut set it to 10 minutes? | 19:52 |
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| ccarmack | doffm: yes I set max_age to 10 minutes hoping to avoid too many pages | 19:53 |
| ccarmack | its not merged yet | 19:53 |
| mriedem | dansmith: cells is happy with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291898/ now | 19:53 |
| ccarmack | melwitt: I can email to the Ops ML to see what the current state is | 19:54 |
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| melwitt | ccarmack: cool. things have changed over the past several cycles so I'm not sure where to find the information (midcycle notes, ML archives, etc) | 19:55 |
| ccarmack | yeo | 19:55 |
| ccarmack | yup | 19:55 |
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| ccarmack | fingers offset in the keyboard | 19:55 |
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| ccarmack | doffm: we are thinking that max_age = 10 is not going to scale, right? | 19:56 |
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| melwitt | good people to ask I think would be belmoreira or sam morrison, maybe cburgess | 19:57 |
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| cburgess | Do what now? | 19:58 |
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| melwitt | cburgess: hey, we were just talking about quotas going out of sync and the sync interval. I thought you might have some experience with that to share | 19:58 |
| cburgess | Ahh | 19:58 |
| ccarmack | Hi, we are discussing how frequent the nova "quota usage out of sync" problem is these days | 19:59 |
| cburgess | So we find that quotas are either spot or, or some widly inaccurate that we just truncate the table. | 19:59 |
| cburgess | But... | 19:59 |
| alaski | I have experience with it set at 86400 which worked well enough | 19:59 |
| cburgess | Its rare we see an out of sync problem. | 19:59 |
| cburgess | And a lot of those were related to major version upgrades. | 19:59 |
| cburgess | We now have a script we use as part of major upgrades that just truncates the table and then does a reserveration and release for every resource in every tenant to repopulate the usage. | 20:00 |
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| ccarmack | Have you seen problems with nova service restart while requests are being processed? | 20:00 |
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| cburgess | yes but thats a general design flaw. Not sure I'm following how it related to quota usage. | 20:01 |
| melwitt | alaski: oh, so once a day? that's a lot better than I thought. I'm either thinking of really outdated information or maybe just totally clueless. probably the latter :) | 20:02 |
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| ccarmack | cburgess: We think thats one way quota usages can get out of sync | 20:02 |
| cburgess | ccarmack Ahh yeah thats makes sense. | 20:02 |
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| ccarmack | cburgess: but besides the major upgrade, quota usage out of sync is pretty rare? | 20:03 |
| alaski | melwitt: heh. others may be doing something completely different, but once a day with until_refresh set at something like 10 worked well. maybe that's the one you're thinking of | 20:03 |
| cburgess | ccarmack I guess my point was, we so many problems with service restarts. quotas rarely cause enough of an issue for us to worry about it. They mostly work and the current resync job seems to be good enough at fixing the minor issues that crop up from time to time. | 20:03 |
| cburgess | ccarmack: Yes, I can't think of any major issues we have had that weren't the result of major upgrades. | 20:04 |
| cburgess | ccarmack Minor issues crop up from time to time. But the sync job mostly seems to address that. | 20:04 |
| ccarmack | cburgess: do you have a periodic resync job, or use max_age? | 20:04 |
| ccarmack | I don't see a periodic job in nova | 20:05 |
| cburgess | Oh sorry.. | 20:05 |
| cburgess | I thought you were saying there was one. | 20:05 |
| cburgess | We use max_age then. | 20:05 |
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| melwitt | cburgess: we're discussing the current state of quotas, trying to enumerate the set of problems that exist with them. one is the potential of out of sync, another is CountableResource like keypairs can be pushed over limit by parallel requests. if you know any others you can share, we're interested | 20:05 |
| cburgess | We don't have anything special to manage quotas other then the script we now use as part of upgrade. | 20:05 |
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| cburgess | melwitt Fair question. Let me sync up with the OPS team today and make sure I'm not mis-representing. Nothing related to quotas has been bad enough to be raised to eng recently so I think its mostly under control but let me double check for you. | 20:07 |
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| melwitt | cburgess: thanks! much appreciated | 20:08 |
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| ccarmack | doffm: so I think I'll loosen up max_age from 600 sec to 86400 sec | 20:08 |
| doffm | ccarmack: Sounds good. | 20:08 |
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| ccarmack | melwitt, alaski, mriedem: and I'll start playing with a func test | 20:09 |
| ccarmack | I'm also working on implementing that spec to add a nova-manage quota refresh command | 20:10 |
| ccarmack | for newton | 20:10 |
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| cburgess | ccarmack An actual command to refresh quotas would be awesome. | 20:14 |
| cburgess | Like I said we wrote a little script to do it but its ugly and brute force and not something I'm proud of. | 20:14 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292362/1/nova/objects/quotas.py I wonder if adding a remotable classmethod now is good just before RC1 ? | 20:17 |
| bauzas | dansmith: I don't really see a problem there, just wondering about the impact | 20:18 |
| bauzas | alaski: you could be interested in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292362/1/nova/objects/quotas.py also (quota-related) | 20:18 |
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| ccarmack | cburgess: can I get you to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286302/ ? :^) | 20:23 |
| alaski | bauzas: I'm less concerned about the new remotable method and more that it's not actually a bug | 20:24 |
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| melwitt | ccarmack doffm alaski cburgess mriedem: I just threw together this etherpad with notes I had from before plus what we just discussed https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-quotas | 20:25 |
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| bauzas | alaski: agreed, I categorized that as wishlist a couple of months ago | 20:25 |
| bauzas | but someone modified it to Medium | 20:25 |
| bauzas | oh | 20:25 |
| mriedem | melwitt: thanks | 20:26 |
| melwitt | also added it to the quotas subteam section of the priorities etherpad | 20:26 |
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| bauzas | alaski: I left a -1 because I think the object facade shouldn't be called directly by the schedulermanager, rather the helper module should call the object facade in the db driver | 20:27 |
| doffm | bauzas: Is the bug even valid? It won't actually PREVENT running multiple schedulers right? Just be inefficient as expire would be called far more often than neccessary. | 20:27 |
| doffm | melwitt: Thanks. | 20:28 |
| bauzas | doffm: exactly, I was just writing that | 20:28 |
| ccarmack | thanks melwitt: I'll play with the functional tests | 20:28 |
| alaski | bauzas: you mean call the object from within quota.QUOTAS.expire? | 20:28 |
| bauzas | alaski: yeah, in the DBQuotaDriver | 20:29 |
| doffm | bauzas: Adding a comment to your comment. The DBQUotaDriver uses the db/api directly EVERYWHERE. The Quota object is just for remoting. | 20:30 |
| doffm | Not for db access. | 20:30 |
| doffm | I was talking to johnthetubaguy this morning about this. | 20:30 |
| doffm | In relation to moving quota tables to the API db. | 20:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Modify VM's updated_at field on volume actions https://review.openstack.org/247176 | 20:30 |
| bauzas | doffm: tbh, I don't see that helper module really useful if we have an object facade elsewhere | 20:30 |
| alaski | bauzas: okay, I'd have to look but I'd say go with whatever pattern is already established for the other method | 20:30 |
| alaski | *methods | 20:31 |
| bauzas | alaski: so I recategorized this one as wishlist, we could discuss on that later | 20:31 |
| alaski | sounds good | 20:31 |
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| mriedem | ccarmack: per your earlier question about rpc in testing, we use the fake transport via a fixture in oslo.messaging http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.messaging/conffixture.html | 20:36 |
| mriedem | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.messaging/drivers.html#fake | 20:36 |
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| ccarmack | thanks mriedem | 20:38 |
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| tonyb | mriedem: Oh rats sorry I missed the stable meeting. | 21:01 |
| mriedem | tonyb: it's fine, you can read the minutes if you want | 21:01 |
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| tonyb | mriedem: yeah I have them open now. | 21:01 |
| tonyb | mriedem: I;ll have to think about it a little but I wasn't expecting it to move this week. | 21:02 |
| mriedem | tonyb: it alternates monday and tuesday each week | 21:03 |
| mriedem | and shifts time | 21:03 |
| mriedem | i make it especially confusing | 21:04 |
| tonyb | mriedem: Yeah it looks like you had it an hour early. eavesdrop says 2100 UTC, and you had it at 2000UTC | 21:04 |
| mriedem | tonyb: you know what, | 21:04 |
| mriedem | we switched clocks yesterday | 21:04 |
| tonyb | mriedem: yeah I was just going to ask. | 21:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: avoid microversion header in functional test https://review.openstack.org/292612 | 21:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nikolai Korablin proposed openstack/nova: Typo fix in documentation https://review.openstack.org/287453 | 22:09 |
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| vilobhmm11 | alaski : ping | 22:13 |
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| vilobhmm11 | you have some time to discuss more on the need for reservation topic | 22:13 |
| vilobhmm11 | alaski : or is there some etherpad out there which already has some discussion captured as part of previous discussion on this topic | 22:14 |
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| auggy | mriedem_away: i followed up with Thang regarding the blueprint we discussed last week - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/validate-project-with-keystone | 22:56 |
| auggy | mriedem_away: he told me i could take it over | 22:56 |
| auggy | mriedem_away: i'm just not sure what next steps are needed from me on that, so let me know what i need to do! | 22:56 |
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| auggy | mriedem_away: i mean regarding administrative type stuff | 22:57 |
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