Wednesday, 2016-02-17

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openstackgerritJohn Hua proposed openstack/nova: xenapi: Image cache cannot be disabled  https://review.openstack.org/26266102:00
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openstackgerritDiana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Skip expensive config fixtures (where possible)  https://review.openstack.org/28051202:49
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openstackgerritDiana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Skip fixtures that need config (where possible)  https://review.openstack.org/28051202:58
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openstackgerritlinwei wu proposed openstack/nova: Docstring change for consistency  https://review.openstack.org/26884606:18
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ankit_agndipanov: hi06:32
ankit_ag, you around ?06:32
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: A problem with the mirror used for CI jobs in the rax-iad region has been corrected. Please recheck changes that recently failed jobs on nodes in rax-iad.06:49
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openstackgerritZhihai Song proposed openstack/nova: add numeric id case in api cache layer for instances  https://review.openstack.org/28109107:32
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openstackgerritZhihai Song proposed openstack/nova: Add exception catch to image detail API  https://review.openstack.org/26236307:55
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openstackgerritRadoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Remove VMwareHTTPReadFile  https://review.openstack.org/28110308:12
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bauzasgood morning Nova08:46
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openstackgerritShaoHe Feng proposed openstack/nova: add ref link for /os-migrations  https://review.openstack.org/28112308:54
kashyapMorning08:55
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openstackgerritjaveme proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Refactor fetching all kinds of images  https://review.openstack.org/28001309:09
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openstackgerritBéla Vancsics proposed openstack/nova: Reduce code duplication  https://review.openstack.org/27091109:22
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openstackgerritRadoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Refactor the image transfer  https://review.openstack.org/28113409:23
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openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/nova: Live migration: wait for vif-plugged event on pre live migration  https://review.openstack.org/24691009:30
openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/nova: Add ability to filter migrations by instance uuid  https://review.openstack.org/28113709:30
openstackgerritRadoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Refactor the image transfer  https://review.openstack.org/28113409:30
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openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Generate better validation error message when using name regexes  https://review.openstack.org/28114309:41
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openstackgerritGleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Fix wrong watermark state during live migration  https://review.openstack.org/27961609:49
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openstackgerritMoshe Levi proposed openstack/os-vif: import hw_veb plugin implementation  https://review.openstack.org/27897209:53
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openstackgerritxiexs proposed openstack/nova: api: split flavor_get_all  https://review.openstack.org/28115209:55
openstackgerritxiexs proposed openstack/nova: db_api: add multi sort interface into db api  https://review.openstack.org/28115309:55
openstackgerritxiexs proposed openstack/nova: objects: Add multi sort keys impl into FlavorList  https://review.openstack.org/28115409:55
openstackgerritxiexs proposed openstack/nova: api: support multi sort keys in the flavor api  https://review.openstack.org/28115509:55
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openstackgerritRadoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Refactor the image transfer  https://review.openstack.org/28113410:02
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openstackgerritZhihai Song proposed openstack/nova: Use oslo_log instead of logging  https://review.openstack.org/26143410:47
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alex_xusdague: hope you like this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281143/1 :)11:09
alex_xuI'm not finish it yet, but will try to finish before the end of day11:09
sdaguealex_xu: I was looking at it right now, I'm having a little bit of a hard time decyphering it.11:09
sdagueOk, great. Some more explicit test cases I think would be great11:10
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alex_xusdague: cool, thanks :)11:10
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openstackgerritJianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova-specs: XenAPI: support VGPU via passthrough PCI  https://review.openstack.org/28009911:17
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openstackgerritJianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova-specs: XenAPI: support VGPU via passthrough PCI  https://review.openstack.org/28009911:19
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tdurakovjohnthetubaguy, hi, want to discuss one idea for live-migration testing on ci. I realized that we not testing negative cases for live-migration, the code path that do all rollback in case of live-migration failure11:30
tdurakovsdague, hi, ^11:31
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jlanouxtdurakov: the hard bit in negative testing of live-migration in a functionnal perspective is to simulate the live-migration failure11:40
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tdurakovjlanoux, yes11:40
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tdurakovand I think we could manage this11:40
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tdurakovby setting live_migration_completion_timeout param to 111:41
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tdurakovso, l-m will be cancelled11:41
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tdurakovand this will trigger rollback11:41
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tdurakovjlanoux, ^11:42
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sdagueis this using the ssh transport? could we just kill that connection?11:42
danpbtdurakov: if you upload a memtestx86 ISO image and boot with that11:42
tdurakovsdague, yep, it uses qemu+ssh11:42
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danpbyou'll find it pretty much impossible for migration to complete :-)11:42
jlanouxtdurakov: I tried that but it's not straight forward. The failure doesn't take the code path with the timeout case11:42
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jlanouxyes, I think killing the ssh connection is best thing to do11:43
tdurakovjlanoux, sdague so, wouldn't you mind I'll add this to live-migration job?11:43
danpbkilling the ssh connection is a very different failure scenario to what tdurakov describes which is about a guest dirtying data more quickly that the network can copy it11:43
sdaguetdurakov: no, that sounds great11:43
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sdaguedanpb: ok, is there a better way to have  controlled fault for that?11:44
tdurakovdanpb, could you recommend alternatives?11:44
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danpbsdague: run a guest which dirties bucket loads of memory - eg memtestx8611:45
tdurakovdanpb, so job end up with timeout, right?11:45
danpbi'm fairly sure that won't complete live migration with default settings unless openstack has 10-gig-e networking11:45
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tdurakovwell, we need to reduce live_migration_completion_timeout anyway11:45
jlanouxtdurakov: Personally I don't think it's bringing much. And you have 2 different cases: the global timeout and beat timeout.11:46
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tdurakovjlanoux, what do you mean?11:46
jlanouxtdurakov: if live-migration is failing in CI, we'll have the logs to debug and fix it11:47
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tdurakovjlanoux, it's not about fixing failures11:47
danpbjlanoux: you're missing the point here11:47
danpbnova has a bunch of logic to detect when live migration will not complete11:47
tdurakovit about testing that rollback for live-migration works as well as live-migration11:47
danpband we need to have testing coverage for that logic11:47
jlanouxah ok! yes, I missed the rollback bit - sorry11:48
tdurakovdanpb, sdague, jlanoux , will add you to review, once patch is ready11:48
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tdurakovthanks!11:49
jlanouxtdurakov: ok!11:49
ankit_agndipanov: hi, you around ?11:49
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ndipanovhello11:49
ankit_agndipanov: I have addressed your review comments on unit test cases for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221162/11:50
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ankit_agndipanov: could you please take a look11:50
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ndipanovankit_ag, yeah have it open11:51
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ndipanovsorry it's taking so long11:51
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ankit_agndipanov: Thank you11:51
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openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/nova: Live migration: wait for vif-plugged event on pre live migration  https://review.openstack.org/24691012:10
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krotscheckAny core have time to look at a paste configuratino change? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265415/12:14
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openstackgerritRen Qiaowei proposed openstack/nova: add checking for new image metadata property 'hw_cpu_realtime_mask'  https://review.openstack.org/26623312:19
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rqwdanpb: could you help recheck the new libvirt patches about perf? I updated new version according to your comments on previous version.12:25
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danpbrqw: remind me what the change url is12:27
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openstackgerritjaveme proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Refactor fetching all kinds of images  https://review.openstack.org/28001312:34
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sdaguekrotscheck: why add all that config to paste.ini - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265415/1/etc/nova/api-paste.ini ? doesn't that just make upgrading harder?12:35
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krotschecksdague: Well, the idea is to reduce the amount of magic configuration options that an operator needs to know about to make things work.12:38
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openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/os-vif: os_vif: ensure objects are in an 'os_vif' namespace  https://review.openstack.org/28124112:39
openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/os-vif: os-vif: add test for versioned object fingerprints  https://review.openstack.org/28124212:39
sdaguekrotscheck: right, but why isn't that just embedded in the code?12:39
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krotschecksdague: the cors middleware is generic.12:41
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sdaguehmmm... why?12:42
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sdaguepaste.ini is magic config options that operators need to know about, so putting more stuff in there which someone could get wrong is something that is best to avoid12:43
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krotschecksdague: Becuase it may be useful to not-openstack12:44
krotscheckYeah, I get that.12:44
sdaguethat seems like a suboptimal trade off here12:45
sdaguecould we instead actually solve the openstack narrow issue, and make it just work12:45
sdagueinstead of solve a generic issue which has to be configured with a bunch of magic12:45
krotscheckWell, there was some discussion of building a keystone-specific cors middleware that would configure itself from the service catalog.12:45
krotscheckBut not every openstack API wants to make that assumption.12:46
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krotscheckAlso, not every operator wants to enable all the headers.12:46
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krotscheckThere was a discussion in the oslo channel, I _think_ back in july, that opted for the configuration to be explicit.12:47
sdaguekrotscheck: if not every operator wants to enable all the headers, we should make a way for them to delete ones they don't want12:47
sdaguebut we should have sane defaults12:47
krotschecksdague: Sane defaults mean different things. To some it means no headers at all. To some it means "The things that this API needs to operate". To others it means the kitchen sink.12:48
sdagueright, and we should be opinionated12:48
krotschecksdague: This particular middleware, since it has security implications, started with the no headers approach.12:48
sdagueif we are opinionated in putting this middleware in by default12:48
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sdaguethen we should make it do the thing we think it should12:49
krotscheckWhich it does.12:49
krotscheckYou may disagree.12:49
sdagueif you think that it's doing the thing it should by default, then we shouldn't have this paste.ini patch12:50
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sdagueif we think that people should deploy by default with what's in this paste.ini, we should make the software do that automatically.12:50
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krotscheckAnd yet, not every openstack API supports the same headers. Should this middleware carry along the glance headers when deployed to nova?12:51
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openstackgerritShoham Peller proposed openstack/nova-specs: Allow creating VMs without powering it up  https://review.openstack.org/27442412:52
sdaguekrotscheck: are there any headers in this list that aren't openstack wide?12:52
krotschecksdague: Depends on the configuration of the cloud.12:53
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sdaguedepends in which way?12:53
krotschecksdague: Keystone configuration, mostly.12:53
sdagueas in they don't have keystone, or different keystone configs?12:53
krotscheckYes.12:54
sdaguein what way?12:54
krotscheckI'm sorry, are you asking leading questions for a reason here?12:54
sdagueI'm trying to understand12:54
krotscheckOk.12:54
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krotscheckThe decision was made to keep the middleware generic. That ship has sailed.12:55
krotscheckThere has been discussion on whether we should make concessions to operators for ease of deployment.12:55
sdaguebecause "don't have keystone" isn't really a valid reason. Keystone is required to be openstack12:55
krotschecksdague: Tell that to ironic12:55
krotscheckOr glance12:55
krotscheckOr swift12:55
sdagueyep, well, it's in defcore12:55
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krotscheckTo continue my previous point12:56
krotscheckThis patch is a concession to operators for ease of deployment.12:56
krotscheckNow, you can disagree.12:56
krotscheckThat's why we have -1's12:56
sdagueright, which I did. I wanted to try to understand what the other options were before getting there.12:56
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krotschecksdague: Coolio. Well, in that case, if this ends up not merging, are you willing to take this philosophy to every other openstack api that has landed cors and submitting a patch to removing these headers? Because nova and heat are the only two which don't have it yet.12:59
krotscheckI'd be happy to abandon the patch if you agree to take on that work.12:59
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openstackgerritBéla Vancsics proposed openstack/nova: Reduce code duplication  https://review.openstack.org/27091113:00
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krotschecksdague: Fact is, if we're going to be opinionated, it's pretty clear that the opinion of the rest of openstack is to have these headers in there.13:01
krotscheckOr not.13:01
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krotscheckWhich would require patches13:01
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krotscheckPersonally, I just want to be consistent.13:01
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sdagueI agree about consistent13:03
krotscheckGood! Let's start there.13:04
sdagueI'm openning up the conversation on the mailing list because I'm not sure that people thought through the upgrade implications previously13:04
krotscheckWorks for me.13:04
cdentdoffm, jaypipes: Have you guys had a meeting of the minds yet?13:04
krotscheckDiscussion is mostly useless though unless someone's willing to do the work.13:04
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krotschecksdague: Are you volunteering for this too?13:04
cdentalso, jaypipes, when a resource pool is associated with an object is that an operation that should happen _on_ or next to the ResourcePool object? (that is it is a method on the object, or something that uses it?)13:05
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cdent(sane defaults)++13:06
openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/os-vif: os-vif: add test for versioned object fingerprints  https://review.openstack.org/28124213:06
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jaypipescdent: no, we have not. :(13:10
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cdentjaypipes: there was converation last night where people were hoping for an ascii diagram, which sounded like a good idea, but I haven't got the details to make it happen13:13
* cdent will carry on with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280906/13:13
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jaypipescdent: I'm actually considering dropping the resource_pools table entirely. I've found with my benchmarking research that it's not actually necessary.13:14
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cdentoh yeah, do tell?13:14
jaypipescdent: the condition I was placing on a resource pool only having a single type of resource was a false and unnecessary condition.13:15
_gryfjaypipes, so all the data would be calculated realtime?13:15
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jaypipescdent: the fact that a shared storage pool only serves disk resources does not mean all resource pools would only have a single type of resource.13:15
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jaypipes_gryf: nah, it's just a schema thing... one sec, lemme explain.13:16
* _gryf is all ears13:16
cdentjaypipes: I've always assumed that a resource pool is a logical resource, but I'll turn into all ears too13:16
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jaypipes_gryf, cdent: ok, so the question that I wanted to answer with the resource_pools table and resource_pool_aggregates table was this: "get me a thing that provides some amount of X resource class that has some available room for a request of Y amount of that resource class"13:18
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jaypipes_gryf, cdent: and in the original proposed schema in generic-resource-pools, I would have done that query like so:13:19
jaypipesSELECT p.uuid FROM resource_pools p JOIN resource_providers rp ON p.uuid = rp.uuid AND p.resource_class = $X WHERE ( ... some subquery on allocations and inventories tables ... )13:20
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jaypipesfollowing me so far?13:20
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cdentyes13:21
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_gryfjaypipes, yup13:21
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jaypipesk, so when I was doing my analysis on whether the resource-providers schema would scale as the number of concurrent requests increased, I came up with this schema: https://github.com/jaypipes/placement-bench/blob/master/db.py#L50-L11513:21
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jaypipesyou will note that the only changes to the schema proposed in the blueprints is that I don't have any resource_pools table13:22
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jaypipesand instead, I just add a "name" column to the resource_providers table.13:23
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jaypipesand I have a many-to-many mapping table joining resource_providers to aggregates instead of resource_pools to aggregates.13:23
jaypipesI can answer the same query above now with just using the resource_providers table13:23
cdentclass handling happens entirely in inventories13:23
jaypipescdent: precisely.13:24
cdentthat makes sense13:24
jaypipescdent, _gryf: ignore the generation and can_host columns for now, those are optimizations.13:24
_gryfack13:24
cdentis there still a concept of external_id somewhere?13:24
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jaypipescdent: that is the resource_providers.uuid column.13:24
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cdentyeah, but sadly the whole world doesn't use uuids :(13:25
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* cdent puts his ceilometer hat on temporarily13:25
jaypipescdent: I understand, but we can force them in this case.13:25
_gryfcan't we just start the trend?13:25
cdentI like forcing them13:25
jaypipes_gryf: yes, my thoughts exactly.13:25
_gryfi mean - using the real thing like using reall, valid uuid13:26
cdentI wrote some very fun code for dispatching to gnocchi that does one way forcing13:26
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jaypipesfor real... since these are globally-addressable resources, the external ID should be a UUID.13:26
_gryfi remeber some disucssion regarding correctness of uui on ml13:26
alejandritoguys, quick question, if a compute node handles more than one vcenter cluster (vmware integration) how can i hint to launch a vm in aspecific cluster ?  for the scheduler to choose it ?13:26
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cdentjaypipes: so I agree this is better, but what does it mean in terms of in flight work?13:27
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jaypipescdent: I need to quickly update the generic-resource-pools blueprint and then you would need to make a patch that adds the uuid and name columns to the resource_providers table you introduced in the resource-providers schema patch13:29
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* cdent nods13:29
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cdentI'm more curious/concerned about getting doffm, bauzas, dansmith on board.13:30
jaypipescdent: after that, we'll need a schema migration that adds the uuid and name columns to resource_providers, adds the resource_provider_aggregates mapping table.13:30
jaypipescdent: well, technically this doesn't change anything about the cells/nocells thing.13:30
jaypipescdent: and don't forget alaski ;)13:30
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jaypipescdent: I'll try to get the generic-resource-pools blueprint updated by noon.13:33
jaypipesright now, though, I need to do powerpoint-as-a-service :(13:33
cdentossum!13:34
cdentI'll see what I can preserve from my wips. I had achieved 100% test coverage! Oh the humanity.13:34
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: WIP: see how bad things fail without numeric id support  https://review.openstack.org/28127713:39
openstackgerritRen Qiaowei proposed openstack/nova: add test_obj_make_compatible for MonitorMetric  https://review.openstack.org/27715613:41
openstackgerritRen Qiaowei proposed openstack/nova: remove default=None for config options  https://review.openstack.org/28067013:41
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bauzascdent: jaypipes: mmm ?13:42
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cdentbauzas: jay came up with simplification of the resource pools concept (see backlog)13:43
bauzasyeah, reading13:43
bauzasjaypipes: how can I use your bench ?13:43
cdentbauzas: there's instructions in the readme of the repo13:43
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bauzascdent: sure, but that's just then calling a SQL schema, right?13:44
openstackgerritAndrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: [microversions] Enable 2.20  https://review.openstack.org/27844613:44
jaypipesbauzas: the all_benchmarks.sh script shows an example of running a full matrix of tests. but... it takes >2 days to run on a 12-core 24G box...13:44
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bauzasjaypipes: okay, so I should resurrect my mini-dells13:44
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openstackgerritAndrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: [microversions] Enable 2.21  https://review.openstack.org/27845413:45
cdentbauzas: if you're looking for a benchmark of actual placement, this is not it13:45
jaypipesbauzas: heh, well I'd wait until I push code that simulates the "don't claim in the scheduler" strategy.13:45
bauzasjaypipes: cdent: FWIW, I'm about to reply to Yingxin's thread13:45
jaypipesbauzas: plus I need to implement the legacy Nova db schema tests too.13:45
cdentI thought his picture was rather useful13:45
bauzasjaypipes: saw my point in the scheduler's BP ?13:45
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alejandritoguys, quick question, if a compute node handles more than one vcenter cluster (vmware integration) how can i hint to launch a vm in aspecific cluster ?  for the scheduler to choose it ?14:04
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openstackgerritFelix Ma proposed openstack/nova: Catch exceptions in iscsi driver when detaching  https://review.openstack.org/26568114:18
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openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/os-vif: os_vif: ensure objects are in an 'os_vif' namespace  https://review.openstack.org/28124114:21
openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/os-vif: os-vif: add test for versioned object fingerprints  https://review.openstack.org/28124214:21
openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/os-vif: Remove obsolete obj_relationships attribute  https://review.openstack.org/28130214:21
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openstackgerritPawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Support for forcing live migration to complete  https://review.openstack.org/27964714:27
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openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/os-vif: os_vif: ensure objects are in an 'os_vif' namespace  https://review.openstack.org/28124114:31
openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/os-vif: os-vif: add test for versioned object fingerprints  https://review.openstack.org/28124214:31
openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/os-vif: Remove obsolete obj_relationships attribute  https://review.openstack.org/28130214:31
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jordanPmriedem, hi. Can I have a 2nd opinion on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278383/ (Fix wrong exception return in fixed_ips v2 extention) please. It's the NotFound vs BadRequest exception with MySQL and Postgre14:32
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jordanPthis looks bad to me. It could be a small security concern also, as it leaks some info14:34
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openstackgerritMoshe Levi proposed openstack/os-vif: import hw_veb plugin implementation  https://review.openstack.org/27897214:36
mriedemjordanP: i'm not sure i'm understanding ken'chi's argument14:36
mriedemis he asking for a microversion?14:36
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openstackgerritAnna Babich proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Functional tests for trigger-crash-dump (microversion 2.17)  https://review.openstack.org/28014714:40
sdaguemriedem: no, he's asking for a revert14:40
sdagueoh, wait ken'ichi14:40
mriedemsdague: yeah, this started as a revert14:41
sdaguehmm, did netsplit lose jordanP?14:41
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sdagueso, I agree this shouldn't be different between dbs14:42
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sdagueI kind of wonder why we don't validate the ip address before randomly sending garbage down14:43
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sdaguemriedem: opinion time - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281277/ - it turns out with the ec2 code out of tree, nothing in tree is using the backdown numeric id lookup14:44
sdagues/backdown/backdoor/14:44
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sdaguea few unit tests need to be cleaned up14:44
mriedemi thought we were already in opinion time14:45
mriedem"hi. Can I have a 2nd opinion"14:45
sdagueheh14:45
openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Generate better validation error message when using name regexes  https://review.openstack.org/28114314:45
sdaguethis would address - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/152253614:45
openstackLaunchpad bug 1522536 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "500 error returned from server GET by numeric id" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Zhihai Song (szhsong)14:45
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sdaguebecause, due to some response caching infrastructure for extensions, this blows up in a funny way14:46
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openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/os-vif: os-vif: add test for versioned object fingerprints  https://review.openstack.org/28124214:47
openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/os-vif: Remove obsolete obj_relationships attribute  https://review.openstack.org/28130214:47
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mriedemsdague: well look who wrote that code originally https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19846/14:55
mriedemsdague: i'm not making the connection on the ec2 aspect of this14:56
sdaguethe ec2 api is keyed by integer ids14:57
sdaguenot by uuids14:57
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sdaguemriedem: well, I wrote the elif statement, so that we error on GET /servers/bob14:57
sdagueor GET /severs/bob;drop table instances14:58
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openstackgerritRadoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Live migration of instances  https://review.openstack.org/27011615:03
openstackgerritAndrea Rosa proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Abort an ongoing live migration  https://review.openstack.org/27797115:03
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sdaguedoffm: as you are hacking on other nova-manage changes - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1538227 is notable15:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1538227 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Failed `nova-manage db sync` returns exitcode of 0" [High,Confirmed]15:08
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openstackgerritAlexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Make 'debug' option reconfigurable in Nova  https://review.openstack.org/28085115:10
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openstackgerritPushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Config options: Centralize debugger options  https://review.openstack.org/27429815:15
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openstackgerritKároly Szabó proposed openstack/nova: Reduce source code by extracting duplicated code  https://review.openstack.org/28132615:17
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openstackgerritxiexs proposed openstack/nova: objects: Add multi sort keys impl into FlavorList  https://review.openstack.org/28115415:19
openstackgerritxiexs proposed openstack/nova: api: support multi sort keys in the flavor api  https://review.openstack.org/28115515:19
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alaskisdague: quick followup on the policy thing from yesterday. You said that the wsgi layer scopes to the project_id, is that based off of the project_id in the URI?15:26
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openstackgerritTimofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: [dnm] cleanup live-migrations  https://review.openstack.org/28065315:31
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bauzasalaski: johnthetubaguy: dansmith: self-promoting shamelessly something https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277800/15:33
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bauzasjaypipes: dansmith: johnthetubaguy: self-promoting again something due to me being a douchebag https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277934/15:34
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openstackgerritShaoHe Feng proposed openstack/python-novaclient: [WIP][RFC] Add nova client server-migration-list and server-migration-show  https://review.openstack.org/28133515:35
jrollrandom question: boot from volume, in the case of "boot with image written to a new volume", is it the virt driver responsible for writing the image to the volume?15:35
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sdaguealaski: nope15:35
sdaguefrom the context15:35
alaskijroll: cinder is. Nova calls to Cinder before getting to the virt driver and just passes in volume info the the virt driver15:36
alaskisdague: okay, so nothing at that layer prevents a request for a resource on another project?15:37
jrollalaski: so nova tells cinder "hey write this image to a volume, and give me a volume"?15:37
dansmithbauzas: lol15:37
alaskijroll: yep15:37
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jrollalaski: awesome, ty15:38
sdaguealaski: the context15:39
sdagueyou'd have to get keystone to give you a context with a different project15:40
sdaguealaski: is there a scenario you are thinking about?15:40
alaskisdague: I mainly wanted to ensure that removing project_id from the URI won't affect anything. But I'm also curious where the actual enforcement occurs if not in policy15:41
sdaguealaski: yep, sure15:42
sdaguelet me bring up the code15:42
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sdaguehttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/c984c11151b540cf49364d527b91c6273e1b98e7/nova/api/openstack/wsgi.py#L717-L72515:42
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sdaguethat was litterly the only place we used the project_id in the url15:43
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alaskiso removing that means we lose that enforcement right?15:44
sdagueno15:44
sdagueyou have to have a valid context to get anywhere in the API stack15:44
alaskiso the context is guaranteed to have a valid project_id for that user, but what fails if they request an instance for another project?15:44
alaskiif policy is ""15:45
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sdaguehttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/c984c11151b540cf49364d527b91c6273e1b98e7/nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py#L52315:45
openstackgerritShaoHe Feng proposed openstack/nova: add index/show API for server migrations  https://review.openstack.org/25877115:45
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alaskiokay, just policy then15:45
alaskiand potentially some enforcement in the db lookup15:46
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sdagueright, because we pass context all the way through15:47
sdagueand use that for db lookups15:47
alaskiyeah. I don't want to rely on that for security though15:47
sdaguelike GET /servers/{foo} gets you to here - https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/c984c11151b540cf49364d527b91c6273e1b98e7/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.py#L177915:47
sdaguealaski: ok, well it is fine to also be explicty in policy.json15:48
sdaguehttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/c984c11151b540cf49364d527b91c6273e1b98e7/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.py#L32815:49
sdaguehaving valid context is pretty deeply embedded15:50
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sdaguea lot of things go explode if that's not the case15:50
alaskiyeah, I'm still pushing that patch. I just had the thought that removing project_id from the URI removes one check so adding the checks to policy isn't really redundant15:51
sdaguealaski: yep, that's fair15:51
sdaguedefinitely a concern I had going in, but I stared at that code a lot15:51
sdagueso I'm pretty sure that is not the case15:51
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sdagueit's just that 7 line early explode15:52
alaskicool. And I agree that db checks cover a lot, but we don't use model_query everywhere so I suspect there may be some holes there15:52
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alaskibit without an audit who knows15:53
sdaguethere might be, but I kind of think we'd have seen a bug for it15:53
sdaguegiven the other things people are fuzzing for right now15:53
alaskiwell the wsgi check would prevent it for now15:54
sdagueand, being explicit in policy.json is totally good15:54
sdaguealaski: I'm not sure how15:54
sdagueproject_id is thrown out after those 7 lines15:54
sdaguecontext.project_id is the only thing that matters15:54
alaskiahh yeah15:55
alaskiokay. I just wanted to have it all straight in my head15:55
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sdaguethe fact that project_id from the url doesn't survive past that function is why I was pretty sure it wasn't really needed15:55
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sdagueit's not even accessable later, as it's popped out of the datastructure it was in15:56
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alaskiyeah, given that it makes no sense why it's even there15:57
sdagueright15:57
sdaguehence making it optional15:57
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sdagueand only optional and not removed entirely, for compatibility reasons15:57
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alaskijust rub a microversion on it :) (and yes I know that doesn't work)15:58
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sdaguewell we did :)15:59
sdaguebut in this case, it's special15:59
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alaskiyeah. and I wonder if rackspace will ever advertise it. they have a proxy in front that runs a lot of checks on the project_id in the URI16:01
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sdagueright, I don't know, eventually we'll make it the defined way for openstack via service catalog work16:06
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mriedemalex_xu: i noticed that the fixed_ips.reserve REST API validates with this https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/schemas/fixed_ips.py#L2216:07
andreykurilinsdague: What optionality of project_id in the URI means for novaclient? Should novaclient stop put project_id in the URI from 2.18 or we need add an option to select what format of URI to use?16:07
mriedemshouldn't that be validating that a valid ip address is passed into the fixed_ips.reserve call?16:07
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sdaguemriedem / danpb : https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1535346 seems a little problematic given that they said that reverting this patch - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205282/ made it go away for them16:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1535346 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Direct Snapshot in Ceph patch causes nova live-migration to break" [Medium,Confirmed]16:08
sdagueandreykurilin: novaclient should use whatever the service catalog tells it it should use16:08
sdaguethe point is the service catalog can now be updated to not be per project16:08
mriedemcburgess: ^ should probably put out the bat signal to nic16:08
andreykurilinsdague: it means that novaclient should not cut project_id if service catalog returned URI with it. right?16:09
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mriedemsdague: that bug is bogus.16:10
sdaguemriedem: ok, do tell16:10
mriedemsdague: they have kilo env and patched in the ceph direct snapshot code from mitaka that is not even released yet16:10
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mriedemso, shit breaks, sorry16:10
sdaguemriedem: right16:10
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sdaguebut doesn't that concern you about that patch?16:10
sdagueor we just say we assume that the rest of it will be fine16:10
danpbguess it depends if mitaka is broken in the same way16:11
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Forbid new legacy notification event_type  https://review.openstack.org/27636316:11
mriedemwell, would be nice if cburgess or nic can say that live migration with that patch is ok16:11
sdagueok16:11
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sdagueso I'll put into incomplete, and let them comment16:11
mriedembut for all i know, they are using the version of the patch from like liberty16:11
mriedemit's been out for review for awhile16:11
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mriedemmetacloud guys were running with it for several releases,16:11
mriedemso if there were live migration issues, i'm assuming they would have hit them by now16:11
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gibirlrossit, cdent, sdague: I finally had time to iterate on16:12
Yingxinbauzas: sorry, in the mail reply: s/boot instances/schedule instances16:12
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gibirlrossit, cdent, sdague: I finally had time to iterate on Forbid new legacy notification event_type16:12
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sdaguemriedem: ok, I'm fine with incomplete and see if cburgess says it's just gorp16:13
gibirlrossit cdent sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276363/ could you check it please?16:13
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mriedemException during message handling: 'module' object has no attribute 'spawn' ?16:13
mriedemwtf16:13
mriedemthat tells me that someone doesn't know how to backport patches16:13
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cdentthanks gibi will take a look16:14
mriedem"If you're going to backport large changes like this out of tree, be sure to run unit tests on it before pushing it to production."16:15
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mriedemdanpb: slight nudge on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270981/ since that is added for a bug fix (next change in the series), i'd like to get that into mitaka since i don't want to backport it16:16
bauzasalaski: doffm: I'm maybe wrong since I saw you discussing yesterday about that but I feel we shouldn't ask the db connection string in the CLI https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275266/516:17
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alaskibauzas: from the discussion yesterday I think we all agreed that we could pull the api db connection string to use as a default, but we still need to support someone wanting to set it manually16:18
alaskibauzas: and there is no conf option that would have the cell0 db connection string if it's a totally separate db16:19
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openstackgerritShaoHe Feng proposed openstack/nova: add index/show API for server migrations  https://review.openstack.org/25877116:25
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bauzasalaski: ok I see, fair point16:28
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mriedemooo cells meeting in 30 min16:30
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alaski\o/16:31
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bauzasalaski: okay, so I feel it's a good point : we're defaulting the cell0 tables to be in the API DB16:33
bauzasunless the operator provides a separate connection string for cell016:33
mriedemdanpb: thanks, the parse_dom bits were a bit hairy, so i'm hoping the test coverage on the to_xml parts was comprehensive enough,16:34
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mriedemfrom spot checking the messy cases it was hitting the fields properly i think16:34
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danpbmriedem: it looked good enough to me16:34
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mriedemseems like this shouldn't be an error http://logs.openstack.org/01/280501/2/check/gate-cinder-tempest-dsvm-glusterfs-nv/be1e5d5/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz?level=TRACE#_2016-02-17_08_00_27_76216:40
mriedemif there is a fallback16:40
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davideagle_I'm exploring a way to retrieve tenant name of an instance from the instance it self, are there any ways of doing so without having to use the api service16:50
davideagle_and the nova client16:50
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack/nova: DO NOT MERGE: testing bindep-based jobs  https://review.openstack.org/28140317:00
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openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Unshelve using the RequestSpec object  https://review.openstack.org/28141817:01
mriedemccarmack: doffm: cells meeting in #openstack-meeting-317:01
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack/python-novaclient: DO NOT MERGE: testing bindep-based jobs  https://review.openstack.org/28142017:02
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openstackgerritDiana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Skip fixtures that need config (where possible)  https://review.openstack.org/28144217:31
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openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: WIP - libvirt: Implement stable device rescues  https://review.openstack.org/27028917:47
openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: WIP - compute: Allow volume backed instances to be rescued by capable virt drivers  https://review.openstack.org/27028817:47
openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: WIP - libvirt: Add boot ordering to individual disks  https://review.openstack.org/27028617:47
openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: WIP - virt: Provide the bdm of an instance during a rescue  https://review.openstack.org/27028717:47
openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: WIP - image_meta: Add hw_rescue_device and hw_rescue_bus  https://review.openstack.org/27028517:47
openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: WIP - utils: Move is_volume_backed_instance into compute_utils  https://review.openstack.org/28144417:47
bauzasmriedem: I don't remember the consensus we had on flavors soft-deletions ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201606/26/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api_migrations/migrate_repo/versions/005_flavors.py17:49
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bauzasheh17:49
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bauzasso I killed mriedem \o/17:49
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bauzasnah, he's zombie17:49
mriedemretype it17:49
mriedemi hit the close button on the tab17:49
bauzas(18:49:02) bauzas: mriedem: I don't remember the consensus we had on flavors soft-deletions ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201606/26/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api_migrations/migrate_repo/versions/005_flavors.py17:49
mriedembauzas: we don't want them17:49
mriedemsoft delete that is17:49
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bauzasmriedem: meh ? you mean we don't want flavor soft-deletions ?17:50
mriedemright17:50
mriedemwe don't want soft delete, period17:50
bauzasok, axing then17:50
bauzasdoffm: ^17:50
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mriedemyes, that change originally had the soft delete columns in the table defs and i asked for those to be removed17:51
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mriedembauzas: there is a spec to fill some of the gap there https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265282/17:51
mriedembut that will be newton17:51
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bauzasmriedem: okay, so we're good then17:51
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bauzasmriedem: yeah I remember there was a spec, but I wondered what was the agreement, thanks17:52
bauzassince we don't want soft-deletes anyway, all of that is goodness :)17:53
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ndipanovbauzas, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280914/1 <- this one is right for you to slam it18:01
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bauzasmriedem: FWIW, the Flavor object is not having the same nullable attrs that the API asks (like the "name" field) so probably a good comment for a next v2 Flavor object18:02
mriedemalaski: i looked a bit into why that os-quota-sets:defaults API failed in your policy.json change, it must be because the default quotas are created by some other tenant?18:03
mriedembauzas: yeah, i was thinking about that yesterday18:03
bauzasmriedem: your point is very valid, we should at least make sure that our API and our object are consistent18:03
mriedembauzas: i can take that as a todo18:03
bauzasmriedem: that's a big thing18:03
bauzasbecause IMO it would be a v218:04
bauzasfor the Flavor object18:04
bauzasndipanov: will look asap18:04
mriedembauzas: yeah probably18:05
ndipanovbauzas, thanks18:05
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bauzasmriedem: we could do the non-optional thing maybe in a minor version (since the old version doesn't wait for a field being set) but it would have some compat code not really nice18:06
bauzasI need more time to think of that - at least for the name attr18:07
mriedembauzas: well, the rest api requires name is provided,18:07
mriedemso even though the db and object say it's nullable,18:07
mriedemit probably never is18:07
bauzasfair point18:07
mriedemunless someone had a flavor that was in there from the nova-manage flavor create tdays18:07
bauzasthat's the point, if we have old flavors and turn that attr non optional, we would need some way to still provide one18:08
bauzaslike "sorrybuddy,youlazy"18:09
mriedemnova-flavor manage create didn't validate that name was provided in the cli, but it would fail if it wasn't provided in nova.compute.flavors.create anyway https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/juno-eol/nova/compute/flavors.py#L106-L10918:10
mriedemsince min length wouldn't be 118:10
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mriedemidk, dansmith - do you see any issue with making flavor object name/flavorid/root_gb fields nullable=False in the object with a minor version or does that have to be a major version?18:11
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bauzasmriedem: flavorid seems easy to figure out18:12
bauzasmriedem: in case we want to set it anyway18:12
mriedemflavorid defaults to a random uuid if it's not provided18:12
dansmithmriedem: it gets pretty ugly18:12
dansmithmriedem: we have flavors stored in the db, and if they could have something=None, then we can't ever deserialize them18:12
mriedemdoes flavor v2 object make that any less ugly?18:13
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dansmithwe could do it there, but we'd need to augment our code to yank it out of the database to handle it18:14
dansmithand18:14
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dansmithwe'd have to convert it because we send that stuff to other nodes,18:14
dansmithso unless we convert everything in the database at some point, we have to tolerate that for a long time18:14
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mriedemwell, i can't say i care all that much,18:15
mriedemi'm pretty sure b/c of our REST API checking that none of those values are ever None in the DB unless someone hacks the DB manually18:15
mriedemand with the flavors tables in the API DB we're enforcing those to be non-nullable18:15
mriedemwhich is what i really cared about18:15
mriedemthe flavor object can just continue the lie to appease the nova db18:15
bauzasyup18:16
mriedembauzas got me all riled up over nothing :)18:16
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bauzasmriedem: lemme know if you need more food for thought18:17
bauzas:)18:17
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mriedemhow about actual real food for my stomach?18:17
bauzasmeh, it's actually 19:17 for me, so indeed \o18:17
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toanalaski: i think you are still involved in the cell v2 push...18:36
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mriedemtoan: that's an understatement18:37
toan:)18:38
toanmriedem: i was trying to ease my question in18:38
toanalaski: if so, i have a couple questions regarding the api_db that just shows up in our recent pull from upstream18:38
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toanon that note, alaski goes radio-silent18:39
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Test to validate obj_make_compatible() strips old attributes  https://review.openstack.org/28079518:40
dansmithbauzas: ^ I think that's clean now18:41
toanalaski: anyhow, will send you a pm so that my question is more visible to you later18:41
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mriedemtoan: just ask here18:42
mriedemthere are other people besides alaski that can maybe answer18:42
JayFPlus I can see the question and the answer, and I'm now curious :)18:42
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toanmriedem, JayF: ok, that's fair!18:44
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toanalaski: on this note here: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/releasenotes/notes/request-spec-api-db-b9cc6e0624d563c5.yaml18:45
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toan... 1) is there more doc somewhere to explain more? 2) for current cell v1 users, if we just set up that api_db in the api cell, everything should work?18:47
toanmriedem et al: if you know, pls chime it18:47
toanin*18:47
mriedemsee the commit message for more details https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258628/18:47
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auggysdague: mriedem: thanks for following up on the Ceph/Live Migration bug earlier. When I skimmed it, my gut was that they were trying to do something weird but I wanted other eyes on it just in case. I'll pay more attention to the versions of things (eg if they are applying a patch from one version into another version) when skimming in the future.18:50
sdagueauggy: yep, no worries18:52
mriedemtoan: on a related note, the manuals should probably be updated for the api_db stuff http://docs.openstack.org/liberty/config-reference/content/section_configuring-database-connections.html18:52
alaskimriedem: I have been digging into the quota failure a bit but haven't got an answer yet. Another tenant creating it would be a problem. But I think it may also be an issue with the test not using an admin user for that call18:52
mriedemalaski: but....it should allow admin or owner18:52
sdagueI was trying to see if we could kick everything from new into either incomplete (if we don't know where to go from here), or confirmed if we are pretty sure it's a real bug18:52
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mriedemusing admin would be an easy fix, but seems like a hack18:52
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sdaguealso - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1546396 is fun18:53
openstackLaunchpad bug 1546396 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "DBAPIError exception while trying to delete instances from kvm" [Undecided,New]18:53
sdaguethough not for the reason in the bug18:53
auggysdague: yeah thanks, i've been whittling down the list as well, starting on the oldest ones first18:53
auggyhaha18:53
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alaskimriedem: if it's setting it for the same tenant yeah, but if this call is really meant to be fetching defaults for another tenant I'm thinking it should be using admin18:53
sdagueauggy: yeh, I'd honestly start with the newer ones first so we can catch any new regressions18:53
alaskimriedem: I'm going to add some logging to the change and push it up to get some more details18:54
sdagueold bugs in new state are probably there because no one knew what to do with them18:54
auggysdague: i'm not sure who is bug skimming this week, so i didn't want to step on any toes18:54
mriedemalaski: i think it's the same tenant but not 100%18:54
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mriedemauggy: i don't think toes can be stepped on when it comes to triaging nova bugs18:54
alaskimriedem: yeah, I'm not sure on that either18:54
auggyhahah well that's good18:54
sdagueI always assume that anyone can always do bug triage18:54
auggyi have a list that i'm working on trying to reproduce18:55
auggyit's tough to not start debugging them haha18:55
sdaguebut, apparently GET /v2.1/3122784921764f0c8e2ca9feb5fc7424/servers?name=%7C causes a 500 (%7C == '|')18:55
auggyoh wow18:55
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sdaguemore curious18:56
openstackgerritChuck Carmack proposed openstack/nova: Adopt admin credentials on delete port when port binding extension enabled  https://review.openstack.org/28001718:56
sdaguenova list --all_tenants | grep kvm | awk {'print $2'} | xargs -l nova delete18:56
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sdaguenova client grabs the first | and sends it as an arg18:56
auggyooooh wow18:56
sdaguewhich, I don't even understand18:56
sdaguemelwitt / Vek - either of you know how that could be happening?18:57
alaskiwhere are the reno notes published to?18:57
alaskigoogle is failing me here18:58
sdaguealaski: http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/nova/unreleased.html18:58
alaskiawesome. Thanks.18:59
openstackgerritChuck Carmack proposed openstack/nova: Adopt admin credentials on delete port when port binding extension enabled  https://review.openstack.org/28001718:59
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auggysdague: i updated the title of the bug18:59
auggyshould we also add it to the nova client project?18:59
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alaskitoan: the release notes for the earlier milestone contain slightly more info on the new api db http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/nova/unreleased.html#id5 . Mostly that there's a nova-manage api_db sync command to run now19:00
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alaskitoan: but yes, if you just set that up in the api cell everything should work19:01
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alaskitoan: there's some high level info about everything at http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/doc/source/cells.rst19:02
alaskitoan: and some info on an upgrade plan at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267153/19:02
sdagueauggy: or a second bug, there is a core 500 error in nova here that I'd like to manage distinctly19:02
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toanalaski: thanks!19:03
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auggysdague: i'll see if i can repro the %7C in one of the tests and then file a bug if i can19:03
auggyhrm or maybe this one should be the api error bug and then we should file a second one for nova client for the | character... that would probably make more sense19:04
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lyarwoodmriedem: apologies if I've missed an email about this but I can't seem to +1 anything on stable/liberty at the moment, is this expected?19:06
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mriedemlyarwood: sounds like a problem i had last week, i thought the gerrit update was fixing that (last friday)19:07
mriedemlyarwood: i'd ask in the openstack-infra channel19:07
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lyarwoodmriedem: kk thanks I will19:07
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lyarwoodmriedem: also if you're still interested and have time https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266095/ is waiting for reviews19:08
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cburgessmriedem sdague I see mentions of us.. whats up?19:11
sdagueauggy: yeh, let's do a second bug for the | error19:13
sdagueon novaclient19:13
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sdaguecburgess: honestly, nothing. Someone badly backported one of your patches and reported a bug about it.19:13
sdaguemriedem pointed out they just screwed up the patch19:13
cburgesssdague LOL ok... I just read that bug report and came to the same conclusion19:14
sdagueyour in the royal your19:14
sdagueit was nic's patch19:14
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cburgesssdague Right.. the Metacloud et all CEPH patches.19:14
sdagueso we're good19:14
sdaguebut thanks for looking19:14
cburgessNo worries...19:14
cburgesssdague While I have you....19:15
alaskimriedem: re: your comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258628/, that would wait until the manual is updated for M right?19:15
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cburgesssdague Oh never mind was going to ask about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246581/ but I see it was merged last week. So nevermind.19:16
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sdaguecburgess: win!19:17
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melwittsdague: sorry, I don't know how that could be happening. afaik novaclient just argparses the argv19:23
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alaskimriedem: bauzas https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201606/26 lgtm and I can +W, but before doing that I just want to run https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267673/3 past you19:24
mriedemalaski: yeah, manual update for M19:24
alaskiokay19:24
alaskiI'm wondering if we shouldn't lock ourselves out of a null root_gb19:25
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mriedemsec, call19:26
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alaskiI'll open the question to a wider audience19:27
alaskilet's say we want to define a flavor which is not allowed to use local disk, how would we represent that19:27
alaskiNone for root_gb/ephemeral_gb, -1? Or some other means?19:28
alaskidansmith: sdague jaypipes ^^19:28
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mriedemtjones: have you ever heard of a problem with resize in vcenter where if you don't have shared storage it fails the resize and leaves the instance on the source host?19:31
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jaypipesalaski: you asking w.r.t. the current way flavors track resource amounts, or the way I've proposed changing that to (i.e. the "allocations" and "inventories" tables)?19:35
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openstackgerritNikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: objects: Allow instance to reset the NUMA topology  https://review.openstack.org/28148219:36
openstackgerritNikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: RT: aborting claims clears instance host and NUMA info  https://review.openstack.org/28148319:36
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ndipanovbauzas, ^19:36
alaskijaypipes: the current way. mostly it's about the API representation of them.19:36
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alaskijaypipes: and the db representation. But not how the consumption of resources is tracked19:36
mriedemhmm19:36
mriedem-1 could also be interpreted as unlimited/n/a19:37
mriedemlike quotas19:37
mriedemand doesn't root_gb=0 have a special meaning?19:37
jaypipesalaski: I believe setting instance_extra.flavor.root_gb to 0 would do that, no?19:37
alaskiyeah19:37
alaskiroot_gb=0 is unlimited19:37
mriedem"And setting root_gb to 0 defaults in creating an19:37
mriedemephemeral root disk with the size of the glance image."19:37
alaskiyeah, that19:37
bgmccollumis `nova [absolute-]limits` broken? getting prettytable exception -- Exception: Field names must be unique!19:38
mriedemi feel like cburgess was asking for something like this before,19:38
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mriedembasically how to prevent booting from an image19:38
alaskiyes, he has the same case as the proposer19:38
tjonesmriedem: let me ask around.  doesn't ring a bell.  but could be19:39
mriedembgmccollum: works for me on novaclient 3.2.019:39
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alaskiso root_gb=0 has the behavior that you would expect from -119:39
alaskiso using None as a representation there isn't pretty but would work19:40
alaskiso I want to rule out the possibility of doing that before approving https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201606/26 or update that to allow root_gb to be nullable19:40
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mriedemgah19:41
mriedemyou and your comprehensiveness19:42
mriedemwho reviews newtons specs before summit anyway19:42
alaskiyou're one to talk19:42
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alaskiit was not willingly done19:43
mriedemwell, the spec still says -119:43
mriedemand if -1 is not a special thing today, it could work for tihs19:43
mriedemalthough None seems to make more sense (or 0 but that's reserved already)19:43
alaskiyeah, 0 would be perfect19:44
alaskibut I think None is the runner up19:44
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mriedembrb19:51
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auggysdague: i was looking around in the tests and i don't see any functional test coverage for servers?foo=bar19:51
auggyi see one test in the unit tests19:51
auggybut of course the unit test wouldn't be hitting sqlalchemy19:52
auggymocks all the way down ;D19:53
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openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: DNM Update example policy.json to remove "" policies  https://review.openstack.org/28091319:56
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cburgessalaski What have I asked for before?20:03
alaskiA flavor that would not create any local disk, only use volumes20:04
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cburgessalaski Oh that yes...20:04
cburgessIs this the spec from a few weeks ago? I spoke with someone about it.20:04
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alaskiit's related. flavor tables are being moved into the new api db and we're discussing whether root_gb will need to be nullable or not there20:06
alaskithe only reason I could think for it to be nullable would be for that spec20:06
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cburgessalaski OK yeah I could see nullable representing no disk.20:07
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alaskicool. so far that's seems to be the most agreeable way20:09
cburgessalaski The question though is how do we represent that in the API?20:09
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alaskiI'm not sure. I would want input from sdague, ken'ichi, alex_xu and others20:10
cburgessalaski But I agree that null in the DB is probably the write way to represent the data structure20:11
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alaskimaybe we can follow the service group example and put a :( in the API20:11
mriedemtjones: maybe you can help explain the scenario in https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/141978520:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1419785 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "VMware: running a redundant nova compute deletes running instances" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Gary Kotton (garyk)20:11
mriedemtjones: in that case, i'm not really sure how the instance.host value is not the same as the CONF.host value on the nova-compute20:12
mriedemmdbooth: ^ maybe you can help me out20:12
dansmithmriedem: that should be closed I think20:14
dansmithmriedem: it's not a thing we can really do right now20:14
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mriedemit is, i'm trying to understand how you get into that case with the vmware driver20:14
mriedemthe 1 sentence description of the data loss bug isn't very helpful20:14
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dansmithintentionally configuring two nova-computes with the same hostname20:14
dansmiththat point at the same vcenter20:14
mriedemand same cluster?20:15
mriedemi get confused by the cardinality of vcenter + cluster20:15
mriedemi used to be 1:M i think but since liberty it's supposed to be 1:1?20:15
dansmiththat's a different thing20:15
sdaguedansmith / alaski - before I fix unit tests for this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281277/ - I wanted to make sure you can't see any fallout from dropping the backdoor lookup by int id for servers20:16
dansmiththe bug is about just starting up another nova-compute, forcing the hostname to be the same and pointing it at the exact same place and just expecting it to magically be HA20:16
sdaguetempest tests all run fine with that removed20:16
dansmithsdague: I think we needed that at some point for ec2 maybe?20:16
mriedemdansmith: sure, but if the instance.host value is set to CONF.host from the nova-compute, and the CONF.host is the same for both, then how does the evacuate code on startup think that self.host != instance.host?20:17
sdaguewe did need it for internal ec220:17
sdaguebut that's all deleted now20:17
sdagueand if you try to access it with all the extensions turned on, it's a 500 error, because of some cache semantics20:17
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alaskisdague: if it's not needed for external ec2 I can't think of any problem with removing it, except for strict backwards compat requirements20:18
dansmithmriedem: right, I'm misremembering.. I think different hostnames configured, pointing at the same vcenter, sees instances running it thinks shouldn't be, and deletes them20:19
dansmithsorry, confusing two cases20:19
dansmithI'm thinking of half of the ironic case20:19
mriedemdansmith: ok, that would make more sense20:19
dansmithyeah, sorry :)20:20
dansmithsdague: cool20:20
mriedemcompute.host=A, compute.host=B, pointing at vcenter.A20:20
sdaguealaski: it was specifically never documented, it also mostly explodes. As far as I can tell most of the unit tests using it are just cheating20:20
mriedemcompute A creates the instances  on vcenter A,20:20
sdaguehttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/c984c11151b540cf49364d527b91c6273e1b98e7/nova/tests/unit/api/openstack/compute/test_config_drive.py#L5820:20
mriedemcompute B starts up and asks vcenter A for the instances, it gives them back and those instances have host=A in the DB and A != B so compute B deletes them20:20
dansmithmriedem: yeah20:21
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alaskisdague: if it hasn't been working and there's been no fallout then removing it makes sense20:23
bauzasalaski: mriedem: so, about the flavor stuff, I remember some patch I saw20:24
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bauzassec20:24
bauzasalaski: mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200870/20:25
bauzasso I -1'd that because I was worried by some side effects20:26
alaskiroot_gb and bfv is such a mess20:26
bauzasexactly20:26
bauzashence my -120:26
bauzasthat seems good at the first glance but I wonder if it would then create some side problems20:27
bauzashere, I'm not really thinking about the resource allocation, rather just saying "meh, this flavor is only for BFV"20:27
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alaskiit depends on if the approach in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200870/ is valid. we could just run a check in the api if root_gb is None or -1 or something ensuring that boot_index 0 is a volume and then set the effective root_gb to 020:31
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alaskiin my mind the solution is to have flavors only exist at the api level and everything past that is synthesized from the flavor plus volume/image info but sent in pieces20:32
sdagueso, what now - https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/c984c11151b540cf49364d527b91c6273e1b98e7/nova/tests/unit/api/openstack/compute/test_neutron_security_groups.py#L9020:32
sdaguewe have a bunch of pass tests?20:32
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dansmithsdague: because it inherits from another test?20:33
sdaguemaybe, though that's just really messy20:33
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dansmithyep20:34
bauzasalaski: I see your point20:35
bauzasalaski: you just know it's huge work :)20:35
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bauzasin particular since the ReqSpec carries a Flavor - for the good or worst20:36
alaskibauzas: yeah. I have wild ideas on the ReqSpec as well, but that's probably best kept to myself for now :)20:36
alaskiit's definitely a lot of work, no matter which way we go20:37
bauzasheh20:37
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tjonesmriedem: there is a 1:1 relationship between cluster and compute now (i thought since kilo). Im reading the bug trying to catch up20:44
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mriedemtjones: yeah, i opened a docs bug since in liberty the manuals still say you can manage more than one cluster20:46
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mriedemtjones: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/154674120:47
openstackLaunchpad bug 1546741 in openstack-manuals "VMware vSphere in OpenStack Configuration Reference - liberty; does not manage multiple clusters" [Undecided,New]20:47
tjonesyep20:47
tjonesmriedem - your other question about resize.  we just tested it with shared and it was fine.  looking for a non-shared env to try20:52
mriedemtjones: yeah i think it was non-shared that was an issue20:52
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mriedemthis is all 2nd hand and poorly though20:53
tjonesmriedem: here is another one like the deleted node above https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1543010.  i have assigned it for investigation20:54
openstackLaunchpad bug 1543010 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Nova clears DB if ESX nova-compute node restarted" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Radoslav Gerganov (rgerganov)20:54
tjonesmriedem: do you have a bug on the resize thing?20:56
mriedemnope20:57
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mriedemi can dig into the details at some point, but probably not going to happen today20:57
tjonesok no worries - we can test it20:57
mriedemi don't know enough about how resize works in the vcenter to be intelligent about this20:58
mriedembut i'm assuming it should be migrating the vm from one esxi host to another within the same cluster20:58
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tjonesb think it's going to reconfigure the vm which may not migrate it - may just add to it21:01
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tjonesmriedem: if the only storage is local and there is no available capacity for the resize i would expect it to fail.  am i missing something?21:14
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alaskimriedem: got more details on the quota-sets policy fail21:44
alaskithe quota-sets call passes in two tenants in the request, shown at http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-compute-v2.1.html#listDefaultQuotas21:44
alaskithe first one is expected to be an admin tenant21:45
alaskithe context in the test matches that tenant, but it's not an admin context21:45
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alaskihowever the policy is checking for ownership against the second tenant in the URI21:45
alaskis/tenant/project_id/21:45
alaskiso I think the right thing here is for tempest to make that call with an admin user21:46
mc_nairalaski: do you know why we pass in the tenant_id for getting the defaults? We do the same thing in Cinder currently but as far as I can tell we don't have any way to set different defaults per tenant.21:47
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alaskithe actual failure can be seen at http://logs.openstack.org/13/280913/4/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/a968892/logs/screen-n-api.txt.gz#_2016-02-17_20_46_16_579 with what the policy check is looking at21:47
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alaskimc_nair: I don't know why it's done this way. I can't see any reason for it either21:48
alaskithe lookup doesn't take user_id or project_id of the context into account21:48
alaskimc_nair: my best guess is just so that the URI is consistent with the other calls21:49
mc_nairalaski: ok, yea that's what I was seeing on the Cinder side as well.  Seems a bit odd21:50
alaskiso maybe there's two issues: tempest should use an admin user, and the policy check shouldn't care about project_id21:50
mriedemalaski: huh21:50
mriedemtempest is only sending one tenant21:51
alaskiactually, should this one just be wide open?21:51
alaskiis there any reason to restrict this call21:51
alaskior should this be visible only to admins?21:52
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mriedemhow are those docs correct? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/quota_sets.py#L15121:55
mriedemthe code only takes one parameter21:55
alaskithe admin_tenant_id ends up being the project_id that gets tossed in the wsgi layer21:55
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mriedemalaski: where?22:02
mriedemthis is all so magical22:02
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alaskithe only place it's used is https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/c984c11151b540cf49364d527b91c6273e1b98e7/nova/api/openstack/wsgi.py#L717-L72522:03
alaskisdague educated me on it earlier22:03
alaskiafter that it's totally unused apparently22:03
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sdagueyeh, it's kind of weird22:05
mriedemalaski: so the tenant it's checking against isn't the actual owner?22:06
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alaskimriedem: right. and for this one call there isn't really an owner22:07
alaskithe QUOTAS.get_defaults call completely disregards the user/project in the context22:07
alaskiso the policy check seems odd here22:08
mriedemisn't it checking the project from the context at the db layer?22:10
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alaskihttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.py#L324822:11
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mriedemyeah i guess it doesn't filter on project_id in the model_query code22:12
mriedemso if the db api doesn't filter on project_id,22:13
mriedemit doesn't seem useful to restrict in the REST API by project_id22:13
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mriedemso i'd probably just leave the policy as ""22:13
alaskiI'm going to switch it to "@", that way you don't have to ask again in 12 months what "" means22:14
mriedemooo good idea22:15
mriedemjust let me get that knife out of my back here quick...22:16
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alaskiheh, it was your claim. But let me help you get that out :)22:17
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alaskiafter this I think we'll all remember quite vividly how this works22:18
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: Remove support for integer ids in compute_api.get  https://review.openstack.org/28127722:21
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Update example policy.json to remove "" policies  https://review.openstack.org/28091322:21
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sdaguealaski / dansmith et al - https://review.openstack.org/28127722:22
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dansmithalaski first22:23
sdagueok, dinner time22:23
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alaskidansmith: heh. Isn't first better in order to not be the +W?22:26
dansmithheh, I dunnoi22:26
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openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Update example policy.json to remove "" policies  https://review.openstack.org/28091322:28
mriedemmelwitt: since you reported the bug you should probably review this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281277/22:28
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mriedemalaski: that was just a rebase right?22:29
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alaskiI removed the debugging code I put into policy.py22:30
alaskiand accidently left in22:30
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cdentso dashes are okay in uuid someplaces but not others?22:30
openstackgerritKyle L. Henderson proposed openstack/nova: Correct InstanceEvent debug messages  https://review.openstack.org/28155322:33
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alaskicdent: looks like uuid4, I'm assuming that's what you're asking about, has a very specific format https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universally_unique_identifier#Version_4_.28random.2922:34
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cdentalaski: my confusion is that in sdague's patch some uuids are having their - turned into '', but elsewhere uuidsentinel is being used which produces uuids that keep their -22:36
cdentso I'm wondering what piece of the pie is being picky and why22:36
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alaskigotcha22:38
cdentand thus far I haven't been able to tease it out22:38
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cdentespecially given that, say, here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281277/2/nova/tests/unit/api/openstack/compute/test_security_groups.py,unified the new uuid without - is replacing one that did have them22:39
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alaskihuh, not sure on that22:40
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dansmithcdent: because they're stored in the db without dashes only, IIRC22:44
cdentdansmith: so in the example linked above ... ?22:44
dansmithI might have that backwards, but I expect it's because of the short-circuiting that was there before.. we're now having to ask for the thing by uuid, and hitting a dashes (or no dashes) requirement22:47
dansmithif you pull it down and remove the dash correction you'll prolly see where it fails22:47
dansmithunless sdague is just into extra work22:47
cdentsdague _loves_ work. unclear if he loves extra work22:47
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* cdent gives it a try22:48
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cdentdansmith, alaski: makes no difference. can either replace - to '' or not and tests still pass22:53
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dansmithcdent: okay, well, we have some places where it matters .. maybe sdague was being presumptive22:54
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cdentdansmith: that was the genesis of my original quesiton: where does it matter? To be followed by: can we make it matter the same everywhere?22:55
dansmithyeah, I don't remember exactly.. last time this came up was maybe six months ago,22:55
dansmithbut the answer was that the DB wanted it one way and the API the other (or something like that)22:56
dansmithwe store 36-character uuids in the db22:56
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dansmithwhich I guess includes the dashes22:56
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cdentI'll put it on my list of "weird stuff that doesn't matter too much right this minute but may some day".22:58
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openstackgerritKairo Araujo proposed openstack/nova: Hacking: check for deprecated os.open()  https://review.openstack.org/28157723:10
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openstackgerritKairo Araujo proposed openstack/nova: Hacking: check for deprecated os.popen()  https://review.openstack.org/28157723:54
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