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| openstackgerrit | Pawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: Add new API to force live migration to complete https://review.openstack.org/245921 | 08:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Pawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: Add new DB API method to retrieve migration for instance https://review.openstack.org/257270 | 08:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Added server tags controller https://review.openstack.org/128940 | 08:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Added server tags support in nova-api https://review.openstack.org/268932 | 08:01 |
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| rdopiera | pkoniszewski: hi, you mentioned in LP 1536589 that there are some plans to make compute stateful? Where can I learn more about that? | 08:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1536589 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Inconsistent state when connection to conductor is lost during live migration" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1536589 - Assigned to Radomir Dopieralski (thesheep) | 08:41 |
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| pkoniszewski | rdopiera: im afraid it isn't described yet, it has been only discussed during midcycle so far | 09:01 |
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| pkoniszewski | rdopiera: tdurakov is working on a spec to describe LM refactoring, refactoring might need to make compute stateful (or might not, we will see) | 09:02 |
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| bauzas | (oops) missed my hi | 09:06 |
| bauzas | good morning Nova | 09:06 |
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| rdopiera | pkoniszewski: ok, thank you | 09:07 |
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| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy, hi, are you around? | 09:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Prevent command injection https://review.openstack.org/276751 | 09:38 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: I am around | 09:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: can I help? | 09:49 |
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| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy, yes, about this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216329/ Do you want me to try another approach here? | 09:50 |
| tdurakov | with getting rid of this cleanup flags method at all | 09:51 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: so I am thinking we should always call rollback_live_migration | 09:55 |
| johnthetubaguy | I mean, rollback_live_migration_at_destination | 09:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | we could give it some hits, but it should be up to that compute node what needs to be cleaned up | 09:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | I ink | 09:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think | 09:56 |
| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy, ok, let me then to implement this in a separate patch. so it would be easy to compare | 09:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: but you are correct, thats a lot more RPC calls, but its on a non-critical cleanup path, so I don't worry about that so much | 09:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: enginefacade: remove 'get_session' and 'get_api_session' https://review.openstack.org/276739 | 09:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: enginefacade: 'request_spec' object https://review.openstack.org/276868 | 09:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: I suspect getting this to work across upgrade will be the tricky part, you probably need to skip that method until its the new version | 09:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: just for background, I think folks keep adding clean up stuff, but not changing when the cleanup should be called | 09:58 |
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| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy, ok, will try to remove this with respect to upgrade process, thanks for details | 10:00 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: if it looks worse, then maybe not, but I think its worth a try | 10:00 |
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| dedery | hi cores, can https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270686 be reviewed? It's a backport to Liberty of the NIC ordering issue (nova boot failure). Finally I've managed to get all of the CIs green... | 10:08 |
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| dedery | ...sorry, it's the NIC duplication issue | 10:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: remove not used tpl https://review.openstack.org/276955 | 10:22 |
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| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: I am assuming you can create a pool of servers where they don't use shared storage? or is that not possible? | 10:29 |
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| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: I am thinking about this change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254101 | 10:31 |
| bauzas | did we had some functional test regression ? | 10:33 |
| bauzas | meh, nvm | 10:35 |
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| diana_clarke | Here's a series of easy to review patches that make the unit tests more than a minute faster: http://paste.openstack.org/show/486269/ | 10:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: prevent serial console port exhaustion https://review.openstack.org/275800 | 10:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Acquire TCP ports for console during live migration https://review.openstack.org/275801 | 10:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Add serial ports to the migration data object https://review.openstack.org/215102 | 10:40 |
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| johnthetubaguy | diana_clarke: sounds like a good add for the trivial patch list in here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-priorities-tracking | 10:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | I mean it miss-used it a little, but worth an add | 10:50 |
| diana_clarke | johnthetubaguy: Thanks! I'll add them to the etherpad. | 10:51 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I'm actually reviewing the trivial patches now using the Gerrit dash directly | 10:56 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: since I can even integrate some custom dashboards by providing the URL in my tabs sections, I just have to click on my Gerrit homepage and not use a bookmark | 10:57 |
| danpb | diana_clarke: ooh very nice ! | 10:57 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: eg. http://ow.ly/WAw1J | 10:58 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I am using this one from sean at the moment https://goo.gl/7JpSFl | 10:59 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I have that one too | 10:59 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/preferences gives you a possible list of dashes you can integrate | 10:59 |
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| bauzas | (in "my menu") | 11:00 |
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| diana_clarke | danpb: Thanks! It was fun ;) | 11:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: nice | 11:02 |
| bauzas | diana_clarke: your changes look very good, would have been awesome if they were sharing the same gerrit topic :) | 11:03 |
| bauzas | git review -t when you push | 11:04 |
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| bauzas | or put them on the same branch, but then it would have been creating a dependency between those | 11:04 |
| diana_clarke | bauzas: Oh nice! That's new to me (the -t option). I'll do that for my next batch. | 11:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Properly inject network_data.json in configdrive https://review.openstack.org/241824 | 11:09 |
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| sdague | superdan: http://logs.openstack.org/73/266273/4/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-full-ceph/b258b71/console.html is one of the ceph random fails for when you get on later | 11:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: move "_get_serial_ports_from_guest" to Guest class https://review.openstack.org/236051 | 12:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alvaro Lopez Garcia proposed openstack/nova: Do not use print statements, but print functions https://review.openstack.org/275184 | 12:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Alvaro Lopez Garcia proposed openstack/nova: Do not use 'unicode' but six.text_type https://review.openstack.org/275186 | 12:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alvaro Lopez Garcia proposed openstack/nova: Do not catch exceptions using Python2 syntax https://review.openstack.org/275185 | 12:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alvaro Lopez Garcia proposed openstack/nova: Do not use "cmp" builtin https://review.openstack.org/275187 | 12:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: Reset instance progress when LM finishes https://review.openstack.org/277362 | 12:37 |
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| markus_z | Is there a known issue with the "test_rebuild_instance_with_volume" tempest test case? | 12:40 |
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| markus_z | I got a "'Security group is still in use" error message with 4 changes | 12:41 |
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| sdague | markus_z: cells specific, right? | 12:45 |
| sdague | I was just looking at one of those fails | 12:45 |
| markus_z | sdague: yepp, + full-ceph | 12:45 |
| sdague | markus_z: same error message in ceph? | 12:46 |
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| markus_z | sdague: no, same test case but different message, "The device apparently does not exist; did you specify it correctly?" | 12:47 |
| markus_z | sdague: http://logs.openstack.org/00/275800/3/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full-ceph/0af5ae5/console.html#_2016-02-08_11_24_38_959 | 12:47 |
| sdague | right, that's different | 12:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Mike Fedosin proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Make Xenplugin to work with glance v2 api https://review.openstack.org/266933 | 12:48 |
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| sdague | security group still in use seems that the server is not fully gone | 12:51 |
| sdague | that looks like a tempest bug | 12:52 |
| sdague | markus_z: can you file a bug for that one, I can probably sort out a fix here shortly | 12:52 |
| markus_z | sdague: yep | 12:52 |
| sdague | I probably exposed it when I made the security group delete not delete every sg rule first | 12:53 |
| sdague | because sg delete happened faster after server delete | 12:53 |
| sdague | but this should definitely be waiting on server delete | 12:53 |
| openstackgerrit | javeme proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Refactor the formatting instance metadata https://review.openstack.org/268994 | 12:56 |
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| markus_z | sdague: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1543106 | 12:58 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1543106 in tempest "TestRebuildInstanceWithVolume.test_rebuild_instance_with_volume failes with "Security group is still in use"" [Undecided,New] | 12:58 |
| openstackgerrit | javeme proposed openstack/nova: Missing to update task state for confirm_resize https://review.openstack.org/244433 | 12:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Return HTTP 400 for invalid server-group uuid https://review.openstack.org/272737 | 13:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Added server tags controller https://review.openstack.org/128940 | 13:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Added server tags support in nova-api https://review.openstack.org/268932 | 13:13 |
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| pkoniszewski | bauzas: hi, are you around? | 13:25 |
| bauzas | pkoniszewski: hi, on a call atm | 13:26 |
| sdague | danpb: http://logs.openstack.org/51/236051/3/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-cells/0448a45/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz#_2016-02-08_12_44_15_270 - libosinfo seems to be emitting a new error on every call now | 13:26 |
| danpb | sdague: hmm, i thought vladikr mocked it out | 13:27 |
| danpb | vladikr: can you look at that ^^^^ | 13:27 |
| sdague | these are real runs | 13:27 |
| vladikr | sure | 13:27 |
| danpb | sdague: oh, right, this is tempest | 13:27 |
| danpb | so that'll just mean that host doesn't have libosinfo installed i guess | 13:27 |
| danpb | we should turn that into a WARN I guess, and make it only be printed once | 13:28 |
| sdague | sure, but that definitely shouldn't trigger an error in the logs on every vm build | 13:28 |
| danpb | agreed | 13:28 |
| sdague | it is fully optional though right, is warn even appropriate? I'd hate for people on platforms that don't have this be concerned about their setup | 13:28 |
| danpb | yeah totally optional | 13:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Replace flavors.get_all_flavors_sorted_list() with object call https://review.openstack.org/268801 | 13:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Refactor and objectify flavor fakes used in api tests https://review.openstack.org/268800 | 13:30 |
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| vladikr | danpb, sdague, yes.. that shouldn't have been an error.. I'll change it now. Should I change it to debug? | 13:31 |
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| danpb | i'd make it info, since it is an interesting fact about the system | 13:34 |
| vladikr | danpb, ok, sure | 13:35 |
| sdague | vladikr: I think info is fine, though we need to make sure it only happens once | 13:36 |
| sdague | not on every vm create | 13:36 |
| vladikr | ok | 13:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Drew Thorstensen proposed openstack/nova: Update the CONF import path for VNC https://review.openstack.org/277392 | 13:44 |
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| bauzas | pkoniszewski: back, how can I help | 13:49 |
| bauzas | ? | 13:49 |
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| BobBall | johnthetubaguy: iirc you're trying to deprecate resize down - is that right? | 13:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Added server tags support in nova-api https://review.openstack.org/268932 | 13:53 |
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| sdague | bauzas / danpb / johnthetubaguy - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276719/ easy fix for running some tests in isolation | 13:55 |
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| bauzas | sdague: I guess you saw http://paste.openstack.org/show/486269/ ? | 13:56 |
| bauzas | of course, here it's not UT, I got it :) | 13:56 |
| bauzas | just providing you the related stuff | 13:56 |
| pkoniszewski | bauzas: hi, during midcycle we discussed about 'check destination on migration' and how i can help there | 13:56 |
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| bauzas | pkoniszewski: so, I'm just sending one last iteration | 13:57 |
| bauzas | pkoniszewski: but you could perhaps help on providing the REST changes | 13:57 |
| bauzas | pkoniszewski: I mean | 13:57 |
| bauzas | there are multiple workitems | 13:57 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: Virt: add context to attach and detach interface https://review.openstack.org/209362 | 13:57 |
| bauzas | for mitaka, I'm only planning to get the ReqSpec object and passing it to the conducotr | 13:58 |
| bauzas | the other side of the spec, which is to modify the UX using a force flag, is not planned for mitaka | 13:58 |
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| bauzas | pkoniszewski: that, the latter, you could perhaps help if you wish with no real matter of urgency :) | 13:58 |
| edleafe | bauzas: just saw you comment about adding custom dashes to gerrit. Thanks - that's a big timesaver! | 13:58 |
| bauzas | edleafe: yup, indeed | 13:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Update import_file to provide a general-purpose interface https://review.openstack.org/267662 | 14:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Remove fake_imagebackend.Raw and cleanup dependent tests https://review.openstack.org/267661 | 14:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Rename Image.check_image_exists to Image.exists() https://review.openstack.org/270998 | 14:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Trivial logic cleanup in libvirt pre_live_migration https://review.openstack.org/270999 | 14:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Remove deprecated option libvirt.remove_unused_kernels https://review.openstack.org/265886 | 14:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Only attempt to inject files if the injection disk exists https://review.openstack.org/250872 | 14:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Remove _create_local function https://review.openstack.org/270997 | 14:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Fix fallocate test on newer util-linux https://review.openstack.org/277402 | 14:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Add more import_file https://review.openstack.org/277403 | 14:00 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: Compute: remove object_compat from get_instance_diagnostics https://review.openstack.org/218623 | 14:00 |
| pkoniszewski | bauzas: sure, well, i dont expect to get all this stuff done in Mitaka, that's fine, my point is to be well-prepared for Newton | 14:00 |
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| pkoniszewski | bauzas: it's even better if it's not urgent | 14:00 |
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| bauzas | pkoniszewski: I just feel adding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273104/ could definitly help Nova anyway | 14:01 |
| bauzas | for Mitaka | 14:01 |
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| bauzas | that, plus live-mig and unshelve | 14:01 |
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| pkoniszewski | bauzas: ok, so if you can point me where I can start i will get familiar with these changes and just start working | 14:05 |
| bauzas | pkoniszewski: okay, good to know | 14:05 |
| sdague | bauzas: what is all that? | 14:06 |
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| bauzas | sdague: diana_clarke pinged that on IRC earlier | 14:07 |
| sdague | ah, gotcha | 14:07 |
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| sdague | yeh, the whole fake wsgi stack is pretty goofy | 14:08 |
| sdague | honestly, I'd rather get a handle on the whole space instead of making another mock layer | 14:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Get a ReqSpec in evacuate API and pass it to scheduler https://review.openstack.org/273104 | 14:23 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: they were just quick fix ups of the existing system, but yeah, long term that stuff should probably all die | 14:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: at least, thats what I saw | 14:27 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: yeh | 14:28 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: we're fully committed on the ec2 code coming out of tree now, right - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266425/ ? | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: we are, yes | 14:29 |
| sdague | just making sure before those cleanups | 14:29 |
| sdague | ok | 14:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: virt: reserved hugepages on compute host https://review.openstack.org/277422 | 14:40 |
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| kbringard | anyone on the stable/liberty team mind taking a peek at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272695/2 | 14:42 |
| kbringard | it's a clean cherry pick from upstream, so should be pretty straightforward | 14:42 |
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| dansmith | sdague: unrelated, this is ugly: http://logs.openstack.org/73/266273/4/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-full-ceph/b258b71/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz?level=TRACE | 14:46 |
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| sdague | dansmith: yep, vladikr is looking at it | 14:47 |
| sdague | see comments from about 1.5hrs ago in channel | 14:48 |
| danpb | dansmith: vladikr's going to change it to INFO and make sure its only emitted once | 14:48 |
| dansmith | ah, cool | 14:48 |
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| sdague | dansmith: it's not clear to me on that ceph issue if the volume is not there at all, or the name is wrong. I just proposed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277396/ to tempest to give us more info when this fails | 14:49 |
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| dansmith | sdague: okay, yeah, it's hard to go fishing for details with all that fail everywhere | 14:50 |
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| sdague | yeh | 14:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Added db API layer to add instance tag-list filtering support https://review.openstack.org/248805 | 14:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Added server tags controller https://review.openstack.org/128940 | 14:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Added server tags support in nova-api https://review.openstack.org/268932 | 14:59 |
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| tdurakov | hey, do we have any problems with dsvm-cells and dsvm-full-ceph jobs? | 15:07 |
| markus_z | tdurakov: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1543106 | 15:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1543106 in tempest "TestRebuildInstanceWithVolume.test_rebuild_instance_with_volume failes with "Security group is still in use"" [Undecided,New] | 15:07 |
| markus_z | tdurakov: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277396/ should give more information | 15:08 |
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| tdurakov | markus_z, just looked at your patches for serial console, btw. thanks! | 15:09 |
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| markus_z | tdurakov: thanks for the reviews | 15:09 |
| tdurakov | markus_z, why https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277396/1 hasn't been merged yet? any problems with this logging? | 15:12 |
| sdague | tdurakov: yeh, in general they are a bit problematic | 15:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Add more import_file https://review.openstack.org/277403 | 15:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Fix fallocate test on newer util-linux https://review.openstack.org/277402 | 15:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Update import_file to provide a general-purpose interface https://review.openstack.org/267662 | 15:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Remove fake_imagebackend.Raw and cleanup dependent tests https://review.openstack.org/267661 | 15:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Rename Image.check_image_exists to Image.exists() https://review.openstack.org/270998 | 15:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Trivial logic cleanup in libvirt pre_live_migration https://review.openstack.org/270999 | 15:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Remove deprecated option libvirt.remove_unused_kernels https://review.openstack.org/265886 | 15:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Only attempt to inject files if the injection disk exists https://review.openstack.org/250872 | 15:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Remove _create_local function https://review.openstack.org/270997 | 15:13 |
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| zzzeek | mdbooth is a hero | 15:13 |
| mdbooth | lol | 15:13 |
| * mdbooth would like +2s on some seriously trivial patches so I don't have to keep rebasing them >:( | 15:13 | |
| mdbooth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270999/3 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270999/3 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277402/2 | 15:14 |
| zzzeek | unfortunately i have no clue w nova | 15:15 |
| mdbooth | Also, if gerrit supported octopus merges I could flatten this out a ton | 15:15 |
| mdbooth | for eg, all 3 of the above are logically independent of each other, and could be submitted in any order. However, because my later patches depend on all three I must impose an arbitrary ordering on them. | 15:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Config options: Centralize debugger options https://review.openstack.org/274298 | 15:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Mikhail Feoktistov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: fix disk size calculation for VZ container instances https://review.openstack.org/222567 | 15:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mikhail Feoktistov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: virtuozzo instance rescue mode support https://review.openstack.org/217679 | 15:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Mikhail Feoktistov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: virtuozzo instance resize support https://review.openstack.org/182257 | 15:25 |
| openstackgerrit | javeme proposed openstack/nova: raise exception ComputeServiceNotExist if host is not found https://review.openstack.org/243105 | 15:28 |
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| markus_z | alaski: Do you think you can have a look at the cells config options patch series? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274698/4 | 15:35 |
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| alaski | markus_z: sure | 15:36 |
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| markus_z | alaski: cool, thanks. | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | is keystone v3 required to run nova <-> neutron notifications now? | 15:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ludovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Failed migration shoudn't be reported as in progress https://review.openstack.org/277451 | 15:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Add more import_file https://review.openstack.org/277403 | 15:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Fix fallocate test on newer util-linux https://review.openstack.org/277402 | 15:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Update import_file to provide a general-purpose interface https://review.openstack.org/267662 | 15:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Remove fake_imagebackend.Raw and cleanup dependent tests https://review.openstack.org/267661 | 15:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Rename Image.check_image_exists to Image.exists() https://review.openstack.org/270998 | 15:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Remove deprecated option libvirt.remove_unused_kernels https://review.openstack.org/265886 | 15:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Only attempt to inject files if the injection disk exists https://review.openstack.org/250872 | 15:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bob Ball proposed openstack/nova-specs: XenAPI: Support Nova services independently from the hypervisor https://review.openstack.org/277452 | 15:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova-specs: Accept multiple hosts when calling live migration https://review.openstack.org/276840 | 15:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Mike Fedosin proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Make Xenplugin to work with glance v2 api https://review.openstack.org/266933 | 15:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Modify VM's updated_at field on volume actions https://review.openstack.org/247176 | 15:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bob Ball proposed openstack/nova-specs: XenAPI: Support Nova services independently from the hypervisor https://review.openstack.org/277452 | 15:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrea Rosa proposed openstack/nova: Add tests to attach/detach vols for shelved server https://review.openstack.org/277463 | 15:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: WIP resource-provider versioned objects https://review.openstack.org/277466 | 15:59 |
| andrearosa | sdague: I put a patch with the missing functional tests for the attach/detach ops for shelved instances, let me know, when you have time, if that is what you expected then I'll bug dansmith | 15:59 |
| andrearosa | and the link: https://review.openstack.org/277463 | 15:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: WIP resource-provider versioned objects https://review.openstack.org/277466 | 16:13 |
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| ccard__ | what is the nova.instance_id_mappings table used for? | 16:22 |
| ccard__ | why would nova.instance_id_mappings.id be different from nova.instances.id? | 16:23 |
| ccard__ | (this is in Juno) | 16:23 |
| alaski | ccard__: at the moment it's not used, it will be used in the new cells v2 functionality of Nova | 16:23 |
| alaski | ccard__: they will be different because id is just a db primary key, it has no meaning that needs to be replicated between tables | 16:24 |
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| ccard__ | alaski: that makes sense, except that when I request latest/meta-data/instance-id it returns instance_id_mappings.id instead of instances.id | 16:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | alaski: one last oslodb-engine thing, if you have a moment: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276739/ | 16:25 |
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| alaski | ccard__: oh, I was talking about instance_mappings, sorry. got confused for a sec | 16:27 |
| alaski | ccard__: instance_id_mappings is for the EC2 compatible API | 16:27 |
| alaski | if you're getting instance info via that API I think it's expected that the id from there is used | 16:28 |
| alaski | johnthetubaguy: looking now | 16:28 |
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| ccard__ | I think we'll change to using the instance uuid instead for what we are trying to do | 16:29 |
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| alaski | that's almost certainly better. id should only be used for db relations and not exposed/used outside of that | 16:30 |
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| cdent | It's time to go look at storm Imogen surging at high tide. | 16:44 |
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| sdague | andrearosa: thanks, I'll take a look in a few | 16:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | sean mooney proposed openstack/nova: stop setting mtu when pluging vhostuser port https://review.openstack.org/271444 | 16:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack/nova: Add some obvious detail to nw_info warning log https://review.openstack.org/276815 | 16:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alvaro Lopez Garcia proposed openstack/nova: imagecache: set base_dir as a property https://review.openstack.org/209912 | 16:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Alvaro Lopez Garcia proposed openstack/nova: imagecache: implement listing of cached images https://review.openstack.org/209913 | 16:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Alvaro Lopez Garcia proposed openstack/nova: virt: add method for obtaining the list of cached images https://review.openstack.org/209914 | 16:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Alvaro Lopez Garcia proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: implement get_cached_images method https://review.openstack.org/209915 | 16:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: dden non-authorized user to suspend/resume https://review.openstack.org/277500 | 17:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Forbiden non-authorized user to suspend/resume https://review.openstack.org/277500 | 17:33 |
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| PaulMurray | Hi danpb | 17:41 |
| danpb | hello | 17:41 |
| PaulMurray | danpb, I was looking over the live migration patches - there are a couple you reviewed before that look to have addressed your comments | 17:42 |
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| PaulMurray | danpb, would you mind looking again please | 17:42 |
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| PaulMurray | I'm thinking of ones under the "for core review" part of the priorities etherpad | 17:43 |
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| PaulMurray | doesn't have to be right now of course | 17:43 |
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| danpb | PaulMurray: any in particular | 17:45 |
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| PaulMurray | danpb, the selective block device ones : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227278 | 17:46 |
| danpb | ok | 17:46 |
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| PaulMurray | danpb, also the force-complete ones seem ready if you have a minute: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257270 | 17:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Sturdevant proposed openstack/nova: Add instance host to evacuate terminate connector https://review.openstack.org/274318 | 17:47 |
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| PaulMurray | both are in a series of 2 | 17:47 |
| PaulMurray | danpb, thanks | 17:48 |
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| sdague | interesting fact, now that the nova network lru is in there - sshing to every guest we create is working pretty reliably - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276506/ | 17:51 |
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| cdent | sdague: two questions a) ref on the nova network lru? I'm curious b) can you point me at some history on api-samples stuff (the purpose it was supposed to serve) and what a replacement must? | 18:04 |
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| sdague | cdent: a) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273042/ | 18:11 |
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| cdent | oh cool, that's very sensible | 18:12 |
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| dansmith | sdague: rock on | 18:12 |
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| sdague | cdent: that's one thing we were working through on day 3 of midcycle | 18:14 |
| cdent | I remember the discussion of the problem, but missed the solution. | 18:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: wow, we have ssh working, thats freaking awesome | 18:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: its amazing how hard that has been, so far, but great to see more progress! | 18:16 |
| sdague | cdent: on api samples, I think all the history is oral on that one. Originally it was brought in because we really weren't hitting most of the resources in any way | 18:16 |
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| sdague | right now it provides that, but also provides a set of example files that get integrated into docs (which get cross checked with the code, so we know they all work) | 18:16 |
| sdague | and are up to date | 18:17 |
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| sdague | cdent: I assume this is about figuring out if gabbi can do all this for us | 18:17 |
| cdent | partially | 18:17 |
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| cdent | I actually don't want gabbi to do all of it. I think that's part of the problem with lots of things: trying to do too much | 18:17 |
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| sdague | yep, sure | 18:17 |
| cdent | I'm just wondering if there's a part of it which can be replaced by gabbi in a useful fashion. | 18:18 |
| PaulMurray | mikal, alex_xu looking for +W on live migration force-complete: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257270 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245921 | 18:18 |
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| sdague | yeh, that's a good question, and I don't know. If you want to go walk though code at some point I'm happy to narrate kind of what's going on | 18:18 |
| cdent | sdague: long term we can probably come up with ways to transpile gabbi <-> swagger etc but that's over the horizon | 18:18 |
| cdent | that's a great idea, perhaps when I get done with the resource-provider stuff. Of course if I keep beguiling dansmith into doing all the work that may be sooner than expected. | 18:19 |
| dansmith | cdent: getting people to do your work for you is an excellent skill | 18:20 |
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| cdent | I'm sure the bill will come due some day | 18:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: wise words | 18:21 |
| cdent | (also, dansmith, feel free to give that back to me whenever you want/need to. If it is useful to tag team it, that's great with me) | 18:21 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: cdent: right.. always suspect my motives :D | 18:22 |
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| cfriesen | Has anyone ever run into a problem where on an evacuate the nova-compute on the dest ends up using the wrong user/passwd for attached cinder volumes? This would be kilo timeframe. | 18:48 |
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| dansmith | alaski: how do I do a model_query() for something without the deleted column? | 18:54 |
| dansmith | oslo.db is bitching at me for the implicit read_deleted=None | 18:54 |
| alaski | dansmith: use session_query instead | 18:55 |
| alaski | session.query | 18:55 |
| dansmith | ah | 18:55 |
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| doffm | alaski: Do we have an etherpad already for discussing cellsv2 database split? (Foreign key stuff) Should I just create one? | 18:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack/nova: Add new test_rebuild_instance_with_volume to cells exclude list https://review.openstack.org/277536 | 18:59 |
| alaski | doffm: You should create one. I'm not aware of anything existing | 18:59 |
| mtreinish | markus_z: ^^^ I think that test just needs to be added to the cells exclude regex | 19:00 |
| doffm | alaski: Ok. Will do. | 19:00 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: ^^^ | 19:00 |
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| alaski | doffm: there is http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/doc/source/cells.rst#n162 | 19:01 |
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| alaski | mtreinish: what is the test doing that cells doesn't support? | 19:02 |
| mtreinish | alaski: looks like secgroups | 19:03 |
| mtreinish | https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/scenario/test_rebuild_instance_with_volume.py | 19:03 |
| alaski | yep, that'll do it | 19:04 |
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| mtreinish | arguably that call should be conditional on config, but we can remove the skip if it can be made to pass with cells | 19:05 |
| alaski | it would be great if that were conditional, since everything else in that test should work with cells | 19:07 |
| alaski | of course it would be great if cells implemented security groups... | 19:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Add new test_rebuild_instance_with_volume to cells exclude list https://review.openstack.org/277536 | 19:11 |
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| cdent | dansmith: your relation comment was something I was wondering about too and is one of the confusions that comes out of the explicit SQL in the spec (how much of it is exact, how much a guide) | 19:12 |
| dansmith | cdent: I done already fixed it | 19:12 |
| cdent | done did do didya? | 19:13 |
| dansmith | cdent: new goodness for you to look at here momentarily | 19:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: resource_providers, allocations and inventories models https://review.openstack.org/275432 | 19:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: WIP resource-provider versioned objects https://review.openstack.org/277466 | 19:17 |
| dansmith | cdent: jaypipes ^ | 19:17 |
| cdent | thanks dansmith, looking | 19:18 |
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| dansmith | cdent: that should be all of the basic inventory create/update stuff | 19:18 |
| dansmith | the only change in the middle patch is the addition of the relationship | 19:19 |
| doffm | alaski: I added some info at: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/CellsV2-database-split | 19:19 |
| doffm | I found a few possible foreign key issues. | 19:20 |
| cdent | dansmith: if there needs to be a relationship in Inventory, why doesn't there need to be one in Allocation? | 19:21 |
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| dansmith | cdent: I didn't do anything with allocation | 19:22 |
| dansmith | cdent: but yes, that too | 19:22 |
| cdent | check | 19:22 |
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| dansmith | cdent: I guess I was thinking we'd maybe not register the allocation object until we're ready to do that work | 19:22 |
| dansmith | cdent: focusing on the inventory and provider bits for just the compute not part in the short term... | 19:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Add database tables to CellsV2 database split docs https://review.openstack.org/277543 | 19:23 |
| alaski | doffm: nice. There are fewer potential issues than I thought, but the compute_node link with pci_devices could be troublesome | 19:25 |
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| cdent | dansmith: so basically taking a vertical use-case oriented slice through the stack of specs? That seems like a good plan. | 19:26 |
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| dansmith | cdent: if we're not going to get to the instance allocation bit until next cycle, then yeah | 19:26 |
| * rlrossit has no idea what's going on with this resource provider stuff | 19:27 | |
| alaski | doffm: oh, we can debate this of course but I think compute_nodes will end up being cell level tables | 19:27 |
| dansmith | cdent: I'd like to see us get the compute node object using these objects to create and update their inventory records and nulling out the old locations | 19:27 |
| dansmith | cdent: and then anything else we can get done before m3 is goodness, I think | 19:27 |
| doffm | alaski: Ok. I was surprised that script found so few issues. (Pleasantly surprised). I might have missed some. | 19:27 |
| cdent | dansmith: I can get behind that | 19:28 |
| cdent | rlrossit: it is a bit spread around, kinda had to be there, it all make sense when it is done-ish | 19:28 |
| rlrossit | cdent: lemme know if I'm way off, but is it a way of decentralizing https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/compute_node.py ? | 19:29 |
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| dansmith | rlrossit: far more than that | 19:29 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: there are specs to read | 19:30 |
| doffm | alaski: compute_nodes in the cell db gets rid of the issues. (No foreign key problems). Thats probably the right way to go. | 19:30 |
| doffm | Not sure what other issues that causes. | 19:30 |
| cdent | rlrossit: the underlying idea is that there are classes of things called resource providers. They provide ram, disk, vcpus, disk. Some of these things are uniqe to a compute node but not all of them (e.g. share disk) | 19:31 |
| cdent | This stuff is currently poorly managed in resource tracking and scheduling | 19:32 |
| cdent | each new type of resource provider gets a new mass of code with its own special way of doing things | 19:32 |
| cdent | if we can represent resource providers in generic ways we can start doing generic operations on them | 19:33 |
| cdent | and long term clean up a bunch of icky goo | 19:33 |
| alaski | doffm: the biggest thing I can think is that a global scheduler has to fetch data from multiple dbs. but that's moving towards a push model now anyways | 19:33 |
| rlrossit | I'm guessing this is all scheduler-related stuff | 19:33 |
| cdent | rlrossit: it would probably be slightly more accurate to say it is schedul_ing_ related stuff as it sort of transcends the current scheduler implementation | 19:34 |
| doffm | alaski: Luckily we are having two different conversations about compute_node data in here. The other conversation reminds me that the resource provider work is likely to change things. | 19:34 |
| cdent | it can do both tracking and scheduling | 19:34 |
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| rlrossit | cdent: so, trying to map this out in my head... a subset of these resource providers will be held within compute nodes, or they will somehow be able to be mapped from one to the other? | 19:36 |
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| dansmith | cdent: do you have code for the migration to add uuid to compute_node? | 19:37 |
| dansmith | cdent: I'm thinking if not, we might as well just jamb that into your existing one | 19:38 |
| dansmith | cdent: and I'll also do the code for that in compute_node separate so we can make sure to land that soon | 19:38 |
| rlrossit | dansmith: is that related to what I just said? | 19:38 |
| dansmith | I wasn't reading | 19:39 |
| cdent | dansmith: no, that was the next spec down the stack, but if you are happy with it in the existing migration that's cool | 19:39 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: I dunno. each compute node will be a resource provider in a generic list of resource providers | 19:39 |
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| dansmith | rlrossit: which means compute_node needs to grow a uuid, among other things | 19:39 |
| dansmith | cdent: less migrations is gooder, no? | 19:39 |
| alaski | doffm: true. we should probably review that effort in the cells subgroup occasionally and keep the two efforts congruent | 19:40 |
| cdent | dansmith++ | 19:40 |
| dansmith | cdent: since they're not ordered [>:(] I don't know which one is "next" | 19:40 |
| dansmith | cdent: can you link me? | 19:40 |
| dansmith | still I think we've all agreed to do this, so optimizing some simple detail like that seems good to me | 19:40 |
| * rlrossit wishes he would've been there so he didn't miss out on the "you had to be there" :( | 19:40 | |
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| cdent | dansmith: I had to write this down to get my head straight (rlrossit this might be useful to you too (and edleafe I guess): https://tank.peermore.com/tanks/os-scratch/ResourceProviders | 19:41 |
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| doffm | alaski: Yep. I think all of the resource tables are going to be top-level (API). So we may have to untie the pci_devices <-> compute_node knot eventually. | 19:41 |
| cdent | dansmith: at the bottom of that is a list in what I think of as the oder of the specs | 19:41 |
| cdent | but the 3 and 4th can be in parallel | 19:41 |
| doffm | But we can discuss with everyone on wednesday. | 19:41 |
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| cdent | that link is a bit out of date (not updated since summit) | 19:42 |
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| dansmith | cdent: hmm, that ordering doesn't seem to fully make sense to me | 19:43 |
| cdent | pci-generate-stats is not part of the list (despite being listed in the list :) ) | 19:44 |
| dansmith | perhaps because your four steps don't (seem to) match the specs directly | 19:44 |
| cdent | the bottom list is 1, 2, (3,4), 5, 6 | 19:44 |
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| alaski | doffm: my understanding was that only resource definitions would be in the api db, all inventory/usage would be within the cell | 19:45 |
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| dansmith | alaski: that's my understanding as well | 19:46 |
| doffm | alaski: I must have misunderstood. I thought the usage would go top-level and get updated by the scheduler. | 19:46 |
| doffm | That makes things easier though. (inventory/usage within cell) | 19:47 |
| cdent | my recollection was that when resource classes were going to be in the db they would be in api db, and everything else in cell. Now that resource classes are not in the db, everything is in cell | 19:48 |
| doffm | Although top-level scheduler is going to have to make multiple db calls for each cell. (As you said earlier) | 19:48 |
| doffm | Sorry multiple db calls. One for EACH cell. | 19:48 |
| alaski | dansmith: cool. the chance of us both being wrong is slightly less than just me being wrong :) | 19:48 |
| EmilienM | does anyone know if a recent commit in nova enforced using keystone v3 for neutron notifications? | 19:48 |
| cdent | we discussed at summit that resource providers that transcended, for some reason, cells, would be something to deal with | 19:49 |
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| EmilienM | puppet CI broke because of it (we're fixing it to use keystone v3 auth in nova.conf just wondering if it's intented) | 19:49 |
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| alaski | doffm: right. but computes also push up changes now, so switching fully to that model will help | 19:49 |
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| EmilienM | dansmith: any idea? ^ | 19:50 |
| alaski | cdent: that is a concern I have. I'm not sure it's worth designing for that possibility yet, but it's good to keep in mind | 19:51 |
| dansmith | EmilienM: I'm not sure, no | 19:51 |
| dansmith | EmilienM: maybe poke sdague | 19:51 |
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| cdent | dansmith: on the ordering: With the specs written in a very implementation oriented fashion they are ordered by their gross code dependencies rather than by satisfying a use case. | 19:52 |
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| dansmith | cdent: yeah, I just think we need to be a little more tactful in the actual execution | 19:53 |
| dansmith | cdent: I'm working on the first thing now, which is getting compute node to uuidify itself, and I'll slide that in after the migration patch and before the other object one | 19:53 |
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| cdent | dansmith: from what list are you indicating "the first thing"? | 19:54 |
| mikal | PaulMurray: I'll take a look | 19:55 |
| dansmith | cdent: the list I'm formulating in my head.. can you see it? | 19:55 |
| cdent | I just recently got new glasses, varifocals, and I'm having trouble adjusting. I can see a giant neon arrow blinking over your head, but not read the text beneath | 19:56 |
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| dansmith | cdent: well, then you'll have to give me a few minutes and look at it in gerrit I guess :D | 19:56 |
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| bauzas | cdent: not sure I got your -W on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273100/5 | 20:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Add database tables to CellsV2 database split docs https://review.openstack.org/277543 | 20:08 |
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| bauzas | cdent: I can see you asking to wait for another change, but for using the new Enum rihgt? | 20:09 |
| cdent | bauzas: Yes. dansmith didn't want it to merge until there was calling code (which he's in the process of writing) | 20:09 |
| bauzas | okay | 20:09 |
| bauzas | want me -2ing it ? :) | 20:09 |
| dansmith | bauzas: no, there's code now | 20:10 |
| cdent | nah, because dansmith is going to write all the code _right now_ | 20:10 |
| cdent | ;) | 20:10 |
| bauzas | heh, was jk | 20:10 |
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| bauzas | alaski: got a sec for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275432/2/nova/db/sqlalchemy/migrate_repo/versions/314_add_resource_provider_tables.py | 20:12 |
| bauzas | alaski: do you think it should be an API DB table ? | 20:13 |
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| bauzas | I can see that as a cloud-related stuff, not a cell one | 20:13 |
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| cdent | bauzas, dansmith: should I go ahead and get rid of the -W then? | 20:13 |
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| cdent | bauzas: we just discussed that a bit ago in the backlog, without conclusion | 20:14 |
| dansmith | cdent: I think it's probably okay | 20:14 |
| dansmith | cdent: I wanted the -W until we saw the code that used it and made sure it was what we want | 20:14 |
| alaski | bauzas: resource providers are compute nodes right? | 20:14 |
| dansmith | cdent: I think that ship has sailed | 20:14 |
| dansmith | alaski: no | 20:14 |
| dansmith | compute nodes are resource providers | 20:14 |
| bauzas | yeah that | 20:14 |
| alaski | okay, poorly phrase on my part | 20:14 |
| alaski | but it's associated at that level | 20:15 |
| cdent | and shared disk, and maybe a network segment pool (or whatever it is called) | 20:15 |
| dansmith | alaski: jay just keeps interrupting people that say that to correct them :P | 20:15 |
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| bauzas | but we can have a resource provider that could be for all the cloud | 20:15 |
| alaski | dansmith: heh | 20:15 |
| bauzas | like a cinder volume | 20:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Modify VM's updated_at field on volume actions https://review.openstack.org/247176 | 20:15 |
| bauzas | I mean, not cell-related | 20:16 |
| cdent | (bauzas if you're aching to go +W at your leisure) | 20:16 |
| bauzas | cdent: okay, am I risking a curse from jaypipes if I'm landing this one ;) | 20:16 |
| bauzas | ? | 20:16 |
| alaski | bauzas: the resource provider doesn't provide anything like a cinder volume as I understand it | 20:16 |
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| bauzas | alaski: sec, reading the 6 blueprints | 20:17 |
| alaski | heh | 20:17 |
| bauzas | I could have been made a mistake with the taxonomy | 20:17 |
| cdent | bauzas: oh no, I think landing stuff is the goal, it was only dansmith who wanted the block. You'll get cursed by jaypipes by something else | 20:17 |
| jaypipes | alaski: all compute nodes are resource providers. but all resource providers are not compute nodes. | 20:17 |
| alaski | bauzas: I think resource pools are the things that could potentially span cells | 20:17 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: that's the latter which worries me | 20:17 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: why? | 20:18 |
| bauzas | meh, bad wording | 20:18 |
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| alaski | jaypipes: what's an example of a resource provider which is not a compute node? a shared disk? | 20:18 |
| bauzas | I mean, I wonder if we could have resource providers that could be for more than just one cell ? | 20:18 |
| bauzas | man | 20:18 |
| bauzas | I don't know the word | 20:19 |
| bauzas | sec | 20:19 |
| cdent | alaski: yes | 20:19 |
| jaypipes | alaski: correct. A shared storage pool. An IPv4 subnet allocation pool. | 20:19 |
| bauzas | across the cells, I would say | 20:19 |
| alaski | okay, I thought those were resource pools | 20:19 |
| jaypipes | alaski: resource pools are anything that isn't a compute node that provides resources to more than one consumer. | 20:19 |
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| bauzas | so, a shared storage pool is a resource provider, gotcha | 20:21 |
| alaski | a shared disk seems to fit that definition | 20:21 |
| bauzas | yeha | 20:21 |
| bauzas | yeah even | 20:21 |
| jaypipes | alaski: the difference between a resource pool and a compute node is that a resource pool only provides a single type of resource (say, disk) whereas a compute node provides multiple types of resources (vcpu, ram, disk (local), pci devices, etc) | 20:21 |
| bauzas | so, the question I wonder is how that fits with the cells split | 20:21 |
| cfriesen | bauzas: maybe distinguish between resources that can span cells and ones that can't? | 20:22 |
| bauzas | cfriesen: that's where I'm locking up | 20:22 |
| cfriesen | or does it even make sense to have resources that span cells | 20:23 |
| bauzas | because I hadn't yet made the effort to mix-match cellsv2 and resource-providers :/ | 20:23 |
| bauzas | and now that's banging in my head | 20:23 |
| bauzas | I need some time to consider that, honestly | 20:23 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: thoughts on that ? | 20:24 |
| bauzas | I mean, how some resource providers could be spanning across multiple cells ? | 20:24 |
| bauzas | and | 20:24 |
| bauzas | alaski: thoughts on us supporting a shared disk across multiple cells ? honestly, I think that's hard to consider that atm | 20:24 |
| * bauzas thinking of the BDMs too | 20:25 | |
| alaski | I think cells should be considered discrete things in Nova, so I wouldn't expect to share disks across them | 20:25 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: I guess I don't see how cells comes into play here. All of the keys in any of these tables are UUIDs and have no particular relationship to a cell. | 20:25 |
| alaski | but volumes and networks will span them | 20:25 |
| alaski | jaypipes: it's a question of which db to put it in | 20:26 |
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| dansmith | alaski: bauzas and if they were shared, I'd expect it's something large that has a notion of dynamic allocations/quotas, which could be split and resized as necessary | 20:26 |
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| bauzas | mmm | 20:28 |
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| alaski | dansmith: you mean allocate some to each cell, and rework as necessary? | 20:28 |
| dansmith | alaski: right, and then you can report the slice to each cell as it is currently allocated | 20:28 |
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| alaski | I think that as long as the scheduler can reconcile that in a global view that could work | 20:29 |
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| alaski | i.e. don't not schedule to a host in a cell simply because the dynamic resource isn't represented in that cell currently | 20:29 |
| alaski | sorry for the double neg | 20:29 |
| dansmith | well, I dunno about that last bit | 20:30 |
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| bauzas | coming back to basics with cells | 20:30 |
| alaski | leave it up to deployers to allocate resources? | 20:31 |
| cdent | alaski: that seemed where we ended up at mid-cycle | 20:31 |
| cdent | (at least until someone had a better idea) | 20:31 |
| alaski | okay, I don't remember this specific bit. this is the simple thing, which is usually the place to start | 20:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Implement an indexed ResourceClass Enum object https://review.openstack.org/273100 | 20:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: resource_providers, allocations and inventories models https://review.openstack.org/275432 | 20:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: WIP resource-provider versioned objects https://review.openstack.org/277466 | 20:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Allocate UUID for compute node https://review.openstack.org/277554 | 20:32 |
| cdent | and the reason for keeping the stuff in the cell database was latency etc | 20:32 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: cdent: that ^ uuid patch will get us on the path to compute node having a uuid in it | 20:32 |
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| dansmith | and if we're reasonably happy with the migration at this point, I think we could probably go ahead with the bottom three of those | 20:33 |
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| alaski | I like having the info in the cell db. my concern, and bauzas I think, is that I don't want to block the ability to have a resource pool/provider which spans cells | 20:34 |
| cdent | dansmith: are you releasing your lock on that stuff (for the time being)? (just to be clear and explicit) | 20:34 |
| dansmith | cdent: on which, the objects patch at the top? | 20:34 |
| bauzas | alaski: that's exactly my point, I don't think putting it in the API db would be worth it, but then I feel we could be missing something if we would like not to limit how the resource providers are | 20:35 |
| cdent | dansmith: No, more like the whole thing: Are you tapping out after you did helpful duty subbing in to get the ball rolling? | 20:36 |
| dansmith | alaski: I also thought you wanted the api db to be as slim as possible | 20:36 |
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| cdent | isn't there something like a cell0 already? | 20:36 |
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| bauzas | notyet | 20:37 |
| cdent | but it's an idea, yes? | 20:37 |
| doffm | Its currently pretty slim. Adding the resource provider to the API db will increase the write load to the API db considerably. | 20:37 |
| dansmith | cdent: I was going to remove the registration of the allocation object and fix up the tests, but if you want to take that part, that's cool | 20:37 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: rock on. will review shortly (trying to get the spec rev pushed) | 20:37 |
| alaski | dansmith: yes. I had it in my head that compute nodes were the only resource provider, and resource pools might be the only thing in the api db. | 20:37 |
| dansmith | cdent: I also need to think about the compute node bit for updating the inventory bit selectively | 20:37 |
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| dansmith | alaski: I think that breaks jaypipes' magical schedule-by-SQL approach | 20:38 |
| cdent | dansmith: I'm not going to do anything tonight, but can pick things up in the morning if a good idea | 20:38 |
| jaypipes | alaski: which table specifically? resource_providers and resource_pools? or inventory and allocations? | 20:38 |
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| bauzas | inventory and allocations are scheduler-related, right? | 20:39 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: ^ | 20:39 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: yes. as are all of these tables. | 20:39 |
| bauzas | ... | 20:39 |
| alaski | jaypipes: inventory and allocations I see as definitely within a cell. resource providers/pools are what I'm thinking about. dansmith has convinced me there's a path to having them in a cell and still have the resources span cells | 20:39 |
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| dansmith | alaski: in fact, I think you could do it even without specialness | 20:41 |
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| dansmith | alaski: you could report a reserved to each cell that left you whatever you had committed to other cells right? | 20:41 |
| dansmith | like, report reserved=(total - sum(cells_other_than_this_one) | 20:41 |
| alaski | thinking a bit further, if these get moved into a scheduler project/database they would not fall on cell boundaries. I'm just trying to convince myself that the scheduling magic can work on a global level if resources are tracked at the cell level | 20:42 |
| dansmith | cdent: okay if you want to fix up the tests and finish the ones you had started then that's cool | 20:42 |
| alaski | dansmith: yes, that would work | 20:43 |
| bauzas | yup | 20:43 |
| alaski | you just lose global scheduling optimization right? you're dependent on manual rebalancing of resources | 20:43 |
| cdent | "want" is a strange word dansmith, but yeah, I'll do that. | 20:44 |
| dansmith | alaski: right, assuming that your cells are large enough to make it worthwhile | 20:44 |
| dansmith | alaski: that balance could be managed by something, but it's definitely outside of the scope of nova | 20:44 |
| bauzas | okay, that looks reasonable to keep those tables in the cell db then :) | 20:45 |
| jaypipes | alaski, dansmith, bauzas: I don't think we need to overcomplicate things. compute nodes are resource providers that are within a particular cell that expose certain types of resources. resource pools are resource providers of a single type of resource that may or may not be housed within a single cell. The resource pool is queried via its relation to one or more host aggregates, which themselves have a relation to one | 20:45 |
| jaypipes | or more compute nodes. | 20:45 |
| bauzas | and that leaves the API db quite quiet | 20:45 |
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| bauzas | oh | 20:46 |
| alaski | dansmith: yeah, Nova shouldn't rebalance. | 20:46 |
| bauzas | aggregates | 20:46 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: sure, but they're trying to make sure we don't get ourselves backed into a corner | 20:46 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: the subnet thing is a good example | 20:46 |
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| dansmith | but either way, I agree, I think we're fine with this and we can handle the separation in a different layer for people that want to do this | 20:46 |
| bauzas | alaski: we haven't yet defined whether aggregates were in the api db or in the cell db, but that would lock things up | 20:47 |
| alaski | I've always felt that aggregates would need to be outside of a cell | 20:47 |
| doffm | bauzas: alaski: Aggregates went in API db on my list. Dont see how they could go cell db. | 20:47 |
| doffm | As they might be given to nodes across cells. | 20:47 |
| alaski | right | 20:47 |
| bauzas | doffm: alaski: that's my natural feeling | 20:47 |
| bauzas | ++ | 20:47 |
| bauzas | I'm totally +1 on that for the start of the journey | 20:48 |
| bauzas | but | 20:48 |
| cfriesen | how are we going to handle PCI/cpu-pinning/etc at the cell level, where you need to know specific resources, not just how many there are? | 20:48 |
| bauzas | now that we nearly agreed on getting the resouce providers, inventories and allocation at the cell level, then it would create a problem | 20:48 |
| jaypipes | cfriesen: you don't handle that on the cell level. | 20:49 |
| alaski | cfriesen: the scheduler has all the data it needs. it's not picking a cell and then looking at hosts | 20:49 |
| cfriesen | alaski: ah, okay | 20:50 |
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| doffm | bauzas: Could you explain the problem? I'm not seeing a specific link to aggregates from the providers, inventories or allocation tables. | 20:52 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: could you please remind me which BP is getting the relationship between aggs and resource-pools ? | 20:53 |
| cdent | bauzas: this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253187/6/specs/mitaka/approved/generic-resource-pools.rst | 20:53 |
| bauzas | doffm: sec, finding the spec which explains that | 20:53 |
| alaski | jaypipes: dansmith summarized well, we just don't want to paint ourselves into a corner. this is all just about "resource pools are resource providers of a single type of resource that may or may not be housed within a single cell" if not within a single cell are we limiting ourselves by putting the table in a cell? | 20:54 |
| cdent | bauzas: sorry meant to end that with a ? | 20:54 |
| alaski | jaypipes: but for now we're saying it's fine in the cell db | 20:54 |
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| bauzas | alaski: provided that aggregates are kept in the cells db | 20:54 |
| bauzas | cdent: thanks, this one indeed | 20:55 |
| bauzas | alaski: there is a mapping table between resource-pools and aggregates, IIRC | 20:55 |
| bauzas | in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253187/6/specs/mitaka/approved/generic-resource-pools.rst to be precise | 20:55 |
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| cdent | alaski: I think one way around that concern is that while you can have a concrete resource which is supra-cell, you can put an inventory which represent a slice of that resource in a cell. (If that's the path that was chosen). Allocations would be against that slice | 20:56 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: generic-resource-pools. | 20:57 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: the one I'm just about to push a new rev on. | 20:57 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: yeah see above | 20:57 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: tl,dr: if we're deciding to put all the tables in the cell db (which is fine IMHO), that would somehow hit the cells v2 effort because we plan to move the aggregates table to the api db | 20:58 |
| doffm | bauzas: Ok, thanks. Think I'm getting your point. Resource pools themselves feel very API DB. | 20:59 |
| alaski | cdent: yeah, that's what dansmith has been saying (if I didn't know better I would think y'all were two aspects of one person) | 20:59 |
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| dansmith | alaski: so offensive! | 20:59 |
| alaski | :) | 20:59 |
| cdent | I'm not sure which one of you to be offended by | 20:59 |
| dansmith | heh | 21:00 |
| jaypipes | I guess I don't see the problem with having the resource_pools live in the cell DB for now and then pulling it out to the API db at a later time when aggregates are pulled out. | 21:00 |
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| jaypipes | and who knows, perhaps the scheduler will be broken out entirely by that point and the question becomes moot. | 21:01 |
| jaypipes | since the scheduler's DB is where all that stuff belongs anyway. | 21:01 |
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| alaski | it's not a big problem, but why put them in one db today if we know we want to move it in a cycle or two? although I'm convinced they can stay in the cell db, and eventually go to the scheduler | 21:02 |
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| bauzas | yeah... | 21:03 |
| doffm | I'd prefer to get this sorted initially. It will be harder work to pull the db out than to put it somewhere in the first place. | 21:03 |
| doffm | Rather than pushing the problem down the road. (If there is one) | 21:03 |
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| alaski | this just leads back to my question of splitting aggregates into different types. if we have a specific aggregate for resource tracking which live in the cells, and then different aggregates in the api db for different concerns (affinity) we don't need to worry as much | 21:04 |
| jaypipes | alaski: did you mean you are *not* convinced...? | 21:05 |
| alaski | jaypipes: no, I'm convinced for now | 21:06 |
| jaypipes | ok | 21:07 |
| doffm | alaski: If its something that will eventually end up in the Scheduler DB shouldn't it go in the API DB for now? I thought the current plan was for a global scheduler, i.e one that conceptually lives in the API cell. | 21:07 |
| doffm | *current plan being eminently changeable. :) | 21:08 |
| alaski | I think we're making a tradeoff here. putting this into the cell db means we'll likely need to have deployers allocate slices of resources to cells, losing global placement optimizations, and I think we should talk about splitting aggregates. | 21:08 |
| bauzas | alaski: that sounds a reasonable trade-off | 21:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova-specs: resource-providers: generic resource pools https://review.openstack.org/253187 | 21:09 |
| alaski | putting them into the api db looks more like a future scheduler split out would look, at the cost of read/write load on a db that's not partitioned | 21:09 |
| jaypipes | bauzas, johnthetubaguy, alaski, dansmith, cdent: ^^ | 21:09 |
| bauzas | coolness | 21:09 |
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| doffm | alaski: Thats a great summary. | 21:11 |
| doffm | I'm a little uncomfortable with both. :/ | 21:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: virt: osinfo will report once if libosinfo is not loaded https://review.openstack.org/277565 | 21:12 |
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| alaski | I'm not sure which I prefer honestly | 21:13 |
| alaski | I prefer option #3, a global scheduler db that's not the api db | 21:14 |
| doffm | It looks like this is about the resource-provider work, but honestly the same arguments could be made about putting the 'compute_node' table in the API or CELL db. | 21:15 |
| doffm | alaski: Option #3 is where its at. | 21:15 |
| bauzas | alaski: that's my thoughts, the api db is not aimed for that | 21:15 |
| doffm | :) | 21:15 |
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| bauzas | if we consider it as a routing information for getting a cell, that's really a read statement | 21:15 |
| doffm | Honestly though I prefer option #2 over #1. Its not the way the API db is meant to be used, but it gives us a cleaner path to get where we want to go. | 21:16 |
| doffm | It may limit how EFFECTIVE cellsv2 is at first. | 21:16 |
| doffm | But allows us to get to our eventual destination quicker. | 21:16 |
| doffm | *hopefully | 21:16 |
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| jaypipes | alaski: are you recommending we create a third database for the resource-providers schemas? | 21:17 |
| cdent | doffm: are you saying it is cleaner because the migration is from one db instead of N? | 21:17 |
| cdent | jaypipes, alaski: if we know there is going to be a third database eventually anyway, going ahead now is an interesting idea | 21:19 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: I wasn't considering that now | 21:19 |
| doffm | cdent: We don't have to do any aggregate splitting or copying between databases. The scheduler doesn't have to query many cells DB's to get access to resource inventories. Its easier to do cross cell resource pools. | 21:19 |
| alaski | jaypipes: I don't think it's something we should necessarily do now, but ultimately yes. that's essentially what the scheduler split will do | 21:19 |
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| doffm | Would it be THAT bad to set up the scheduler DB now and put the new tables in it? Migrate other tables to it as needed later. Its operator load as they have to create the damn thing. | 21:21 |
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| bauzas | doffm: no | 21:22 |
| bauzas | doffm: impacting the resource-providers BP for that is a terrible idea IMHO | 21:22 |
| bauzas | doffm: because it would throw the series under the bus | 21:23 |
| bauzas | doffm: and we haven't yet agreed on splitting the scheduler, just that it's a natural endgoal | 21:23 |
| doffm | :) OK. Probably true. It doesn't actually get us anything right now. | 21:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Brown proposed openstack/nova: Support multiple URLs for LDAP server https://review.openstack.org/277569 | 21:23 |
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| bauzas | anyway, I think dansmith provided a very reasonable trade-off | 21:24 |
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| alaski | yeah, I don't think we've blocked any future path here | 21:27 |
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| doffm | Sounds good. | 21:28 |
| cdent | As if anyone could ever know the future. | 21:28 |
| cdent | Better to just do what seems right, now, and adapt later. | 21:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Forbidden non-authorized user to reboot https://review.openstack.org/277572 | 21:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Change default policy of reboot https://review.openstack.org/277573 | 21:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Remove duplicate policy test https://review.openstack.org/277575 | 21:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Add buildrequest db/object https://review.openstack.org/263926 | 22:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add a tool for reserving migration placeholders during release time https://review.openstack.org/277589 | 22:13 |
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| hemna | gus, ping | 22:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: WIP resource-provider versioned objects https://review.openstack.org/277466 | 22:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Allocate UUID for compute node https://review.openstack.org/277554 | 22:28 |
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| rlrossit | dansmith: do you have time for a stupid question? | 22:34 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: I feel like there's no way to answer that question without being sad | 22:34 |
| dansmith | so, just go ahead | 22:34 |
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| rlrossit | so how come in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277554 you add a uuid to compute node, and now on save you're suddenly writing it to the DB, but nowhere are there DB migrations made to add that column... where does the sorcery happen? | 22:35 |
| rlrossit | or do I just play the "I'm an idiot on databases" card? | 22:35 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: it's in the patch before that one | 22:36 |
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| rlrossit | dansmith: so I'm *not* an idiot... that makes me feel better | 22:38 |
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| dansmith | well, this really isn't sufficient data to say one way or the other | 22:40 |
| rlrossit | oh I see how it is... | 22:41 |
| rlrossit | :'( | 22:41 |
| rlrossit | dansmith: so you put that in the change before just to make for less migrations? | 22:41 |
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| dansmith | rlrossit: yeah, didn't I say that in the commit message for the previous one? | 22:42 |
| * dansmith thought he did | 22:42 | |
| dansmith | it's all related to the resource stuff, so no reason to have multiple migrations, IMHO | 22:42 |
| rlrossit | dansmith: yep it is | 22:42 |
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| rlrossit | I just looked at the commit message for adding it to the object, and was really confused that I saw no reference to migrations, which made me question how things worked | 22:43 |
| dansmith | okay | 22:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add a tool for reserving migration placeholders during release time https://review.openstack.org/277589 | 22:47 |
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| dmsimard | Heya, I'm probably missing something but are releases of nova (not novaclient) published on PyPi ? | 23:11 |
| dmsimard | There is https://pypi.python.org/pypi/nova but last release seems to be 2013.1 | 23:11 |
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| tonyb | dmsimard: No they | 23:35 |
| tonyb | 're on tarballs.openstack.org | 23:35 |
| dmsimard | tonyb: okay, thanks. | 23:35 |
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| tonyb | dmsimard: http://tarballs.openstack.org/nova/ 12.0.1 is the latest stable 13.X are the development releases | 23:36 |
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