| mriedem | jroll: yikes, so that's just a compat shim right? | 00:02 |
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| mriedem | nvm, just a partial revert w/o the misleading py26 note | 00:04 |
| jroll | mriedem: it's a compat shim that someone thought was 2.6 and dropped, and I put it back | 00:04 |
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| jroll | yeah | 00:04 |
| mriedem | yeah, it did say py26 before | 00:04 |
| mriedem | that's why it was removed | 00:04 |
| jroll | right | 00:04 |
| mriedem | yeah let me see what our change history looks like for a release | 00:04 |
| jroll | I was wondering if that changed py2.5 -> py2.6 and if that was new for 2.6 | 00:04 |
| mriedem | we were waiting for some changes before the break to do a major version | 00:04 |
| jroll | cool, no rush but sooner is better :) | 00:05 |
| mriedem | oh snap, i guess someone did a 3.0.0 release | 00:05 |
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| mriedem | ok, i'll request a 3.1.1 | 00:07 |
| jroll | thanks much | 00:08 |
| mriedem | actually 3.2.0, but semantics | 00:08 |
| mriedem | there was a reqs bump fecf833 | 00:08 |
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| oomichi | mriedem: hi, can you take a look at a liberty patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263567/) ? | 00:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Replace stubs.Set with stub_out https://review.openstack.org/264297 | 00:40 |
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| mriedem | oomichi: yeah in a bit | 00:42 |
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| oomichi | mriedem: thanks. btw the release schedule of stable branch seems to be changed since liberty. so when is nova's liberty release? | 00:43 |
| mriedem | oomichi: as soon as we can get through the open stable/liberty reviews | 00:44 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/liberty | 00:44 |
| mriedem | or at least the things we want to get into the release | 00:45 |
| mriedem | i want to get this in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258695/ since it fixes a gate issue | 00:45 |
| oomichi | mriedem: I see, thanks for your explanation :) | 00:46 |
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| mriedem | oomichi: +W | 00:57 |
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| oomichi | mriedem: thanks again :) | 00:59 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: garyk: claudiub: dansmith: mikal: i'm trying to go through the stable/liberty reviews to prep for a 12.0.1 release, there are a few with +2s here https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/liberty | 01:01 |
| mriedem | would appreciate reviews this week to wittle the list down to what we think we should release | 01:02 |
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| claudiub | will do in the morning, it's 3 am atm here. :) | 01:03 |
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| mriedem | claudiub: yeah, np, just an fyi | 01:05 |
| mriedem | claudiub: do you by chance live in the part of romania that used to be transylvania? :) | 01:06 |
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| claudiub | mriedem: well, romania is split in several larger regions, one of which is still transylvania :) | 01:06 |
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| mriedem | so do you live in that one? | 01:07 |
| claudiub | mriedem: but no, I would hibernate until spring if I were there. :) | 01:07 |
| mriedem | oh, ok | 01:07 |
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| mriedem | i was just trying to put together the 3am thing... | 01:07 |
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| claudiub | well, I am a bit of an night owl, but not a transforming bat. :P | 01:08 |
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| mriedem | garyk: can we abandon this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238208/ to cleanup the stable/liberty review queue? | 01:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Convert nova.tests.unit.image.fake.stub_out_image_service to use stub_out https://review.openstack.org/264393 | 01:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Expose quiesce/unquiesce API https://review.openstack.org/248989 | 01:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | huan proposed openstack/nova: XenAPI: Fix VIF plug and unplug problem https://review.openstack.org/254022 | 02:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Replace stubs.Set with stub_out https://review.openstack.org/264297 | 02:33 |
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| oomichi | alex_xu: morning, can we push https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259319 now? you are drafter of the spec, so you are familer with this feature ;) | 02:36 |
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| alex_xu | oomichi: ah, thanks for the review, I will check that. :) | 02:38 |
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| alex_xu | oomichi: there are dependence patches also | 02:39 |
| alex_xu | probably I need choice a time go over all of them | 02:39 |
| alex_xu | s/choose/choice | 02:39 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: microversions patches are lined up on the queue and that is easiest I feel | 02:39 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: yup :) | 02:40 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: I already +2 for the other microversion patches, but they will be need to be rebased due to version conflict(2.15) | 02:40 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: yea, I noticed those patches. after the contributors rebase them, I will try to review first. | 02:41 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: btw, there are some microversion doc write up https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/complete-todo-in-api-concept-doc :) | 02:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | huan proposed openstack/nova: XenAPI:Resolve Nova/Neutron race condition https://review.openstack.org/241127 | 02:43 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: ok, will check them :) | 02:45 |
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| alex_xu | oomichi: thanks :) | 02:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/264405 | 04:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/252197 | 06:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova: xenapi: OVS agent updates the wrong port when using XenServer + Neutron https://review.openstack.org/242846 | 07:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tang Chen proposed openstack/nova: Add a REST API to trigger crash dump in an instance. https://review.openstack.org/202617 | 07:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | sandeep nandal proposed openstack/nova: Replaced range() and xrange() by six.moves.range() https://review.openstack.org/264652 | 07:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | lyanchih proposed openstack/nova: libvirt - Flavor's quota instance resource not observed for non-ephemeral storage https://review.openstack.org/201019 | 08:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Better document the osapi_max_limit config option https://review.openstack.org/233212 | 09:02 |
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| bauzas | good morning Nova | 09:05 |
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| johnthetubaguy | lxsli: did we get that patch merged OK now? | 09:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Pryc proposed openstack/nova: Implements proper UUID format for compute/test_stats* https://review.openstack.org/264685 | 09:29 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: heh | 09:30 |
| bauzas | sorry, I'm actually super busy with http://snowcamp.io/2016/fr/ | 09:30 |
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| bauzas | damn | 09:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: ah, cool beans | 09:31 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: hardware: check whether realtime capable in API https://review.openstack.org/264165 | 09:31 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add policy check to avoid using qga in realtime context https://review.openstack.org/247585 | 09:31 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: conductor: initialize request_spec to handle expected exception https://review.openstack.org/258011 | 09:31 |
| bauzas | just 3 days before our midcycle... | 09:31 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add realtime support https://review.openstack.org/197569 | 09:31 |
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| swamireddy | HI | 09:38 |
| gjayavelu | johnthetubaguy: Hi, when you get chance can you please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204219/? | 09:38 |
| swamireddy | I want to move a VM from one compute node to other node. Can I use EVACUATE command? | 09:38 |
| gjayavelu | johnthetubaguy: you expressed concerns about release notes and code merge status. were you expecting the release notes done by m-1? | 09:39 |
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| johnthetubaguy | swamireddy: we have a new doc on that, one sec | 09:39 |
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| johnthetubaguy | swamireddy: in summary its probably a bad idea, but here is why: http://developer.openstack.org/api-guide/compute/server_concepts.html#moving-servers | 09:40 |
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| johnthetubaguy | gjayavelu: just looking at your patch, not sure I get your question, we should add the release notes as we go, and m-1 is released already | 09:41 |
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| gjayavelu | johnthetubaguy: sure. it was added as a last patch in that set | 09:42 |
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| johnthetubaguy | gjayavelu: ah, I see what you mean now, I was thinking that patch was merged for some reason, no idea why... | 09:42 |
| gjayavelu | johnthetubaguy: oh ok. | 09:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | gjayavelu: yeah, last patch of the series is the best way to do it | 09:42 |
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| johnthetubaguy | gjayavelu: I am not sure it has the dependency relationship I was expecting, the release notes patch that is, but it should be merged after the feature, so that all looks good | 09:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: api: add soft-affinity policies for server groups https://review.openstack.org/147520 | 09:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: scheduler: fill RequestSpec.instance_group.members https://review.openstack.org/148277 | 09:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: scheduler: add soft-(anti-)affinity weighers https://review.openstack.org/147516 | 09:44 |
| gjayavelu | johnthetubaguy: let me check with garyk and update | 09:44 |
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| johnthetubaguy | gjayavelu: sure thing, thanks for reaching out | 09:45 |
| gjayavelu | johnthetubaguy: thank you! | 09:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: releasenotes: Note on CPU thread pinning support https://review.openstack.org/264693 | 09:49 |
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| lxsli | johnthetubaguy: yes thank you! I have a new one now: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264195/ | 10:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | lxsli: awesome, thank you! | 10:16 |
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| johnthetubaguy | lxsli: did we update the wiki to point to the published docs yet? | 10:16 |
| lxsli | Not yet, I was waiting for the devref to get published | 10:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | good call :) | 10:17 |
| lxsli | which it has now been, so I'll do that | 10:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | thanks | 10:17 |
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| bauzas | lxsli: +2d | 10:18 |
| lxsli | sweet, thanks! | 10:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | lyanchih proposed openstack/nova: Listing volumes does not provide a link to next element https://review.openstack.org/237999 | 10:19 |
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| gibi | johnthetubaguy: hi! you approved previously https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/soft-affinity-for-server-group, I had to rebase it due to merge conflict. Could you reapprove? | 10:24 |
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| lxsli | OK, replaced Nova/Process and Nova/Mentoring with links to devref. Updated links to those pages in main Nova wiki page with good links. | 10:24 |
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| swamireddy | johnthetubaguy: HI...Thanks for the quick link...Yes I also have a similar user case as mentioend in the doc...moving the compute nodes to other rack...so I will shtidown and move other rack and restart... | 10:38 |
| swamireddy | johnthetubaguy: here, Can I use the evqcute command here...before current compute node shutdown? or the nova evacute command only works after current node is power-off state only?? | 10:39 |
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| johnthetubaguy | swamireddy: the doc should describe that, was it unclear in there? | 10:40 |
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| johnthetubaguy | swamireddy: the answer is, the host must be powered off, and never powered back on, if you evacuate the VM | 10:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | swamireddy: what you are likley wanting is either live-migrate or migrate | 10:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | swamireddy: if you VM is on local storage, evacuate looses all that data | 10:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | swamireddy: if your VM was on shared storage, and the previous host starts back up, you might get two VMs talking to the same disk, leading to likely data corruption | 10:42 |
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| bauzas | gibi: johnthetubaguy: given that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147516/59/nova/scheduler/weights/affinity.py reads some object value, I would have preferred to have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148277/64 first in the series but since both of them are now approved, we're all good | 10:46 |
| bauzas | gibi: johnthetubaguy: because reading some field that hasn't been set raises an exception, it makes the weigher not functional until the latter patch merges, but I'm maybe nitpicking | 10:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Allow multiple volume attachments https://review.openstack.org/193135 | 10:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: comp: Allow multiple volume attachments https://review.openstack.org/193134 | 10:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: WIP: REST API changes to support multi-attach https://review.openstack.org/153038 | 10:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: WIP: virt: Pass host when call attach to Cinder https://review.openstack.org/256273 | 10:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I agree, but I spotted that after the others has +Ws too | 10:53 |
| bauzas | anyway, we're good | 10:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I think so | 10:54 |
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| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: hi, I have new patches up with checking the multi attach support in the virt layer ^^ | 10:57 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: after some checks it seems that maybe even the boot_from_volume would not be an issue either at least from detach perspective, but I'm happy to block that if we feel unsafe in general | 10:59 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: its the problem of not protecting against folks booting two instances from the same volume that worries me. | 11:00 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: a good API should be hard to use "dangerously" | 11:01 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: good point, I will block it to make sure, that's prolly better than checking whether the volume is already attached or not | 11:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: yeah, that check will always be a little racey, I feel | 11:01 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: yeap, my thinking too | 11:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | and things outside nova might attach to it anyways | 11:02 |
| ildikov | that should be in the volume info, but anyway, better to block for now | 11:02 |
| ildikov | I will block that and the create_snapshot | 11:02 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy, bauzas: thank for the approve. | 11:05 |
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| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: one quick question | 11:07 |
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| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: should that be not supported if the volume can be multiattached or if it already has attachments? | 11:09 |
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| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: in either case should the API contain the check or better to do it in a lower layer? | 11:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: I think we just check for multi-attach=true, rather than looking at the list of attachements | 11:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: that feels much simpler, and less confusing and racey | 11:11 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Add argument to support-matrix sphinx extension https://review.openstack.org/264717 | 11:12 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Refactor _load_support_matrix https://review.openstack.org/264718 | 11:12 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Add prototype feature classification matrix https://review.openstack.org/264719 | 11:12 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: ok, let's do that as a starting point | 11:12 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: I will need to call out to Cinder though again as we don't have the volume in that call chain nowhere | 11:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: we can just reject that down at the compute layer for now | 11:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: it really does feel like we need to add mutli-attach into the BDM | 11:13 |
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| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: ok, good, I don't have to touch the legacy API code this way | 11:13 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: there's a BP up to change it aftere volume creation already | 11:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: so its not ideal, but I would take a check there over no check, others may not agree with me though | 11:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: in cinder? | 11:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: I think we need to make clear how dangerous that will be | 11:14 |
| ildikov | yes, in Cinder, I can add you to the review | 11:14 |
| ildikov | well, if we always check it with Cinder that should be fine, but if we store that in the BDM then comes the trouble for sure | 11:15 |
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| sudipto | bauzas, good morning and happy new year! I have a strange issue that i am facing with my patchset w.r.t Jenkins, is it a good time to ask? | 11:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [python3] byte/string conversions and enable more tests https://review.openstack.org/261045 | 11:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [python3] Port more code to python3 and enable tests https://review.openstack.org/262083 | 11:18 |
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| bauzas | sudipto: ty, happy new year too | 11:19 |
| bauzas | sure, ask | 11:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: pci: changing the claiming and allocation logic for PF/VF assignment https://review.openstack.org/249018 | 11:20 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Refactor _load_support_matrix https://review.openstack.org/264718 | 11:20 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Add prototype feature classification matrix https://review.openstack.org/264719 | 11:20 |
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| sudipto | bauzas, ok this is my patchset : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245765/ the tests fail for a strange reason here: http://logs.openstack.org/65/245765/19/check/gate-nova-python27/65319c3/ this doesn't even point to the line where i have made the change... | 11:22 |
| bauzas | sudipto: you probably had a race, lemme check | 11:22 |
| sudipto | bauzas, tried this around 5-6 times, but can't seem to get around it :( | 11:22 |
| sudipto | bauzas, it points to the code which i have changed, but the line numbers don't match. | 11:22 |
| bauzas | sudipto: oh that | 11:23 |
| bauzas | sudipto: lemme verify your code | 11:23 |
| sudipto | bauzas, ok thanks... | 11:23 |
| bauzas | don't focus on the line numbers, because the job is rebasing your change on top of master | 11:23 |
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| sudipto | bauzas, ok ... | 11:24 |
| bauzas | sudipto: FYI http://logs.openstack.org/65/245765/19/check/gate-nova-python27/65319c3/console.html#_2016-01-07_05_48_09_360 | 11:24 |
| sudipto | bauzas, yeah - but i can't seem to understand why the module doesn't have that attribute - it does work for other functions...not sure if i am overlooking something :( | 11:25 |
| bauzas | yeah that's a bit weird | 11:27 |
| sudipto | :( | 11:28 |
| bauzas | sudipto: I would probably rebase my change locally and run again the test | 11:28 |
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| bauzas | sudipto: to test if it's reproducible | 11:28 |
| bauzas | sudipto: I wonder if 'utils' object is not trampled | 11:29 |
| bauzas | by another running test | 11:29 |
| bauzas | since it's a shared object | 11:29 |
| bauzas | I mean the module reference | 11:29 |
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| sudipto | bauzas, ok...i rebased also a couple of times...but i observe this same thing... | 11:34 |
| bauzas | locally? | 11:34 |
| sudipto | bauzas, yeah... | 11:34 |
| sudipto | bauzas, still it points to a different line number... | 11:34 |
| bauzas | lemme look | 11:34 |
| sudipto | bauzas, ok... | 11:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Use stub_out and mock to remove mox: part 1 https://review.openstack.org/264154 | 11:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Add prototype feature classification matrix https://review.openstack.org/264719 | 11:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Use stub_out and mock to remove mox: part 2 https://review.openstack.org/264353 | 11:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eoghan Glynn proposed openstack/nova: doc: minor corrections to the API version docco https://review.openstack.org/264732 | 11:47 |
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| bauzas | sudipto: I'm not able to reproduce the issue locally when rebasing | 12:09 |
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| bauzas | oh sec | 12:09 |
| bauzas | no, I got one | 12:09 |
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| sudipto | bauzas, oh - i was not able to reproduce it either... | 12:12 |
| bauzas | sudipto: no, I can now reproduce anytime | 12:13 |
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| bauzas | and by looking at the problem, it's trivial :) | 12:13 |
| bauzas | lemme show you | 12:13 |
| sudipto | bauzas, great - sure. | 12:14 |
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| bauzas | sudipto: I guess you probably badly rebased your patch | 12:15 |
| bauzas | sudipto: how do you rebase ? | 12:15 |
| bauzas | git rebase -i master ? | 12:15 |
| sudipto | bauzas, yeah | 12:15 |
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| bauzas | okay, but it means you have to update your master, right? | 12:15 |
| sudipto | git pull on the master? | 12:15 |
| bauzas | so, could you please | 12:15 |
| bauzas | git fetch master | 12:15 |
| bauzas | git rebase -i origin/master | 12:16 |
| sudipto | ok sure. | 12:16 |
| markus_z | PaulMurray: Regarding the midcylce in Bristol, do you know if there are ops or customers around? It would help to justify my travel approval for my employer. | 12:16 |
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| bauzas | sudipto: FYI, here is the change you missed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203322/ | 12:17 |
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| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: I many ways, I am an operator, if that helps. Although thats probably cheating | 12:17 |
| bauzas | and I *was* an operator, HTH :p | 12:18 |
| markus_z | alex_xu: Hi, we talked 2-3 months ago about bug tag ownership for "api". https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Step_2:_Triage_Tagged_Bugs Do you see yourself in that position? | 12:18 |
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| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: Hm, well, could be cheating could be not :) Rackspace-admin you say? | 12:19 |
| bauzas | sudipto: oh I saw I made a mistake when giving you the git fetch | 12:19 |
| sudipto | bauzas, nah - i got that :) | 12:19 |
| bauzas | git fetch *origin* master | 12:19 |
| sudipto | bauzas, running tox... hopefully i will see the error... | 12:19 |
| bauzas | sudipto: and ? | 12:19 |
| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: Didn't we have one from cern during the liberty meetup? | 12:20 |
| bauzas | sudipto: ok | 12:20 |
| bauzas | sudipto: you know you can only ask for a specific set of tests, right ? | 12:20 |
| sudipto | bauzas, yeah | 12:20 |
| bauzas | ok | 12:20 |
| bauzas | markus_z: we can ask belmoreira if he comes | 12:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: possibly, yes, like you say, PaulMurray will have the full list | 12:20 |
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| bauzas | by the way, I've been asked by email to give my CC expiry date, hopefully I'm not a paranoid guy | 12:21 |
| markus_z | bauzas: thanks, good to have a name there | 12:21 |
| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: ok, I think I wait for Paul's response | 12:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Fix sphinx warnings from signature_utils https://review.openstack.org/264745 | 12:22 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: bauzas: I have a prototype for the feature classification matrix, I am curious if this is what you folks were expecting it to be: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/19/264719/3/check/gate-nova-docs/08140ba//doc/build/html/feature_classification.html#prototype-feature-support-matrix | 12:25 |
| bauzas | I'll certainly take a look :) | 12:25 |
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| PaulMurray | markus_z, I get what you are asking, but do you actually want to speak to people or just want to say "XYZ will also attend"? | 12:28 |
| markus_z | PaulMurray: It's sufficient to say that they are there. | 12:28 |
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| PaulMurray | markus_z, well, untill 31st Jan I'm an operator :) | 12:30 |
| markus_z | PaulMurray: I guess that counts :) | 12:30 |
| PaulMurray | actually, most of the nova team that supports our cloud offerrings are here if that helps | 12:31 |
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| PaulMurray | (I mean HPE nova team) | 12:31 |
| PaulMurray | and some ops/admins | 12:31 |
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| markmc | kashyap, you tested the block migration fallback? | 12:32 |
| kashyap | markmc: Yep | 12:32 |
| kashyap | markmc: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171098/2 | 12:32 |
| PaulMurray | BTW johnthetubaguy, we're also hosting the swift mid cycle a few weeks later | 12:32 |
| kashyap | markmc: Please see my last comment there. | 12:32 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, are you aware that they do swag and evening events at their mid cycles !! | 12:33 |
| sudipto | bauzas, thanks a lot! I wonder how i missed it but really appreciate your help! | 12:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: thats news to me | 12:33 |
| bauzas | np | 12:33 |
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| sudipto | bauzas, this file of mine was way off. | 12:33 |
| markmc | kashyap, any idea what the actual issue was that the reporter hit? | 12:34 |
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| markmc | kashyap, in https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1441054 | 12:34 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1441054 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "live-migration --block-migrate fails with default libvirt flags" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Mathieu Rohon (mathieu-rohon) | 12:34 |
| markus_z | PaulMurray: I guess that helps me already a bit. Can you maybe also take a look at the registration list and spot some other company names? | 12:34 |
| belmoreira | markus_z, bauzas: Unfortunately I can't be in Bristol for the nova midcycle. I will attend the ops midcycle in Manchester though. | 12:34 |
| kashyap | markmc: First, looking at my notes here (from some previous tests) - https://kashyapc.fedorapeople.org/virt/libvirt-migration-tests-with-qemu+tcp.txt | 12:35 |
| kashyap | (Scroll down to the bottom in case you've clicked) | 12:35 |
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| markus_z | belmoreira: Ah, that's a pity. thanks | 12:36 |
| kashyap | markmc: It's likely that the reporter misphrased it. | 12:36 |
| markmc | well, he has a traceback :) | 12:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Sudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Add ppc to supported arch for NUMA https://review.openstack.org/245765 | 12:36 |
| bauzas | belmoreira: roger. | 12:36 |
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| bauzas | belmoreira: well, next time then | 12:37 |
| markmc | kashyap, a traceback that went away when he stopped using TUNNELLED | 12:37 |
| kashyap | markmc: That behavior _does_ manifest, but with some other combination other than default. | 12:37 |
| kashyap | That's what I meant | 12:37 |
| bauzas | that ops meeting in Manchester can indeed limit the number of operators that 'd like to attend both (nova + ops) | 12:37 |
| markmc | kashyap, which combination? | 12:37 |
| kashyap | markmc: Re-testing to find that out :-) | 12:37 |
| markmc | kashyap, ok | 12:38 |
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| kashyap | markmc: I have to step out for an errand, will add a comment there in the bug once I have empirical evidence of what flags result in that behavior. | 12:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Silvan Kaiser proposed openstack/nova: Switch Nova Quobyte volume driver to rely on externally provided client mount. https://review.openstack.org/264752 | 12:45 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Use stub_out and mock to remove mox:part 3 https://review.openstack.org/264753 | 12:47 |
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| ankit_ag | johnthetubaguy: hi | 12:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Propagate qemu-img errors to compute manager https://review.openstack.org/264349 | 13:01 |
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| chhavi | hemna: Saw ur comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255595/7/cinder/volume/manager.py | 13:02 |
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| chhavi | to be clear, does it mean, you will be moving the host_attaches as an util, so it can be called via terminate connection as well | 13:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ankit_ag: hi, can I help? | 13:12 |
| ankit_ag | johnthetubaguy: Yesterday abhishekk had a discussion with you over https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163798 | 13:13 |
| ankit_ag | where you mentioned about exposing the DOS attack by allowing multiple force-delete requests but this issue is already handled in the current PS by restricting delete calls if task state is force_deleting | 13:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ankit_ag: OK, so you only get one delete, then one force delete? | 13:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Dirk Mueller proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Fix W503 line break before binary operator https://review.openstack.org/264760 | 13:14 |
| ankit_ag | johnthetubaguy: right | 13:14 |
| ankit_ag | so that user has one more chance to delete the instance stuck in the deleting state | 13:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | ankit_ag: will have to re-read the patch to comment more I think | 13:15 |
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| ankit_ag | johnthetubaguy: sure thank you | 13:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Get support matrix notes from the ini file https://review.openstack.org/264763 | 13:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dirk Mueller proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Properly authenticate against Keystone V2 in a V3 env https://review.openstack.org/264764 | 13:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ukesh Kumar proposed openstack/nova: Add microversion to allow server search option metadata for non-admin https://review.openstack.org/264765 | 13:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ukesh Kumar proposed openstack/nova: To allow server search option metadata for non-admin https://review.openstack.org/264765 | 13:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Versioned objects support for ResourceClass https://review.openstack.org/263497 | 13:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dirk Mueller proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Properly authenticate against Keystone V2 in a V3 env https://review.openstack.org/264764 | 13:40 |
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| kashyap | matrohon: Do you know the version that you found this bug with? - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1441054 | 13:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1441054 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "live-migration --block-migrate fails with default libvirt flags" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Mathieu Rohon (mathieu-rohon) | 13:45 |
| kashyap | matrohon: Version of libvirt and QEMU | 13:45 |
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| matrohon | kashyap, let me check I may still have the VM that I use for this test | 13:47 |
| kashyap | matrohon: That behavior is not reproducible anymore. | 13:50 |
| kashyap | I'm writing a comment in the bug. | 13:50 |
| kashyap | Please re-test when you get time, and write your observation in the bug. | 13:50 |
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| matrohon | kashyap, I'll do, actually I currently work on live-migration bugs in neutron | 13:52 |
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| kashyap | matrohon: Okay, plese see comment #5. I tested 6 times today and checked with libvirt folks too. | 13:55 |
| matrohon | kashyap, it was on debian jessie and packages was probably libvirt 1.2.9-9 and qemu-kvm 1:2.1+dfsg-11 | 14:00 |
| matrohon | I'll test with an up to date debian jessie | 14:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/264441 | 14:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Make xvp proxy into vnc group https://review.openstack.org/235398 | 14:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'vnc' options https://review.openstack.org/263763 | 14:17 |
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| sfinucan | mikal: Got a moment? | 14:21 |
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| bauzas | sfinucan: mikal is based in Australia, sincerely not sure he could answer in a timely manner :) | 14:23 |
| mriedem | edleafe: belmoreira: i noticed the bug for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255405/ was mentioned in http://openstack-in-production.blogspot.com/ so i'm going to mark that fix for backport to liberty and kilo | 14:23 |
| sfinucan | bauzas: Ah - ZNC (or its ilk) strike again. Thanks for the heads up :) | 14:24 |
| bauzas | fair point | 14:24 |
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| edleafe | mriedem: sure thing. Need me to do anything with that? | 14:24 |
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| mriedem | edleafe: you could propose the backports | 14:24 |
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| belmoreira | mriedem: great | 14:25 |
| mriedem | i've already marked the bug | 14:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: check graphic/serial consoles at pre_live_migration step https://review.openstack.org/254709 | 14:25 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce block_stats to return device stats https://review.openstack.org/251288 | 14:25 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: return a root block device https://review.openstack.org/249139 | 14:25 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce exceptions handler https://review.openstack.org/257991 | 14:25 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce get_job_info to Guest's object https://review.openstack.org/250740 | 14:25 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: configure migrate max downtime https://review.openstack.org/250739 | 14:25 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce "abort_job" to Guest's object https://review.openstack.org/250738 | 14:25 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce "migrate" to Guest's object https://review.openstack.org/250365 | 14:25 |
| bauzas | edleafe: CC me on the backports, I'd be glad to review | 14:26 |
| edleafe | mriedem: ok, so to make sure I'm not screwing it up: grab liberty/kilo stable, apply the fix, and then push? | 14:26 |
| edleafe | bauzas: ack | 14:26 |
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| mriedem | edleafe: first i'd just try the cherry pick button i nthe gerrit ui | 14:26 |
| bauzas | + | 14:26 |
| bauzas | nothing really changed in the codebase about that - except the big Spec objectification | 14:27 |
| edleafe | mriedem: ok, haven't played with that yet. Time to experiment! | 14:27 |
| mriedem | it's a 5 LOC change so i'd hope there aren'tmerge conflicts | 14:27 |
| mriedem | but i know you scheduler boyz like to change things | 14:27 |
| bauzas | mriedem: I certainly bet it's not the case | 14:27 |
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| bauzas | I mean to be clear, I expect no issue | 14:28 |
| slagle | mriedem: hi, could you have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264793/, it's a revert for stable/liberty | 14:28 |
| mriedem | slagle: gah | 14:29 |
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| mriedem | yeah i'll check on it | 14:30 |
| mriedem | thanks for finding that | 14:30 |
| slagle | thx | 14:31 |
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| edleafe | mriedem: easy peasy. Done. | 14:32 |
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| mriedem | slagle: so i guess tripleo in stable/liberty isn't using upper-constraints? | 14:37 |
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| tobasco | johnthetubaguy: you remember this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1508907 | 14:38 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1508907 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "local_gb_used wrong in compute_nodes table when using Dell Cinder backend" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:38 |
| tobasco | johnthetubaguy: i just tested this one against our deployment and it infact places the deployment into a critical state where no new instances can be spawned | 14:38 |
| slagle | mriedem: probably not. | 14:38 |
| mriedem | slagle: could you report a bug against nova with the details, i.e. the job that failed and the version of oslo.serialization used? | 14:38 |
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| kashyap | markmc: As to what combination caused that traceback - we'll know once the reporter tells us the version of libvirt they're using (asked them on the bug). However, why we can't see it manifest presently is - in the meantime the bug was reported upstream libvirt must've fixed it to gracefully fallback to old implementation (libvirt devs confirm so too, on their IRC.) | 14:38 |
| slagle | mriedem: sure, will do | 14:38 |
| mriedem | slagle: i'm going to want to run this back to lifeless as a post-mortem | 14:38 |
| mriedem | thanks | 14:39 |
| claudiub | mriedem: it seems that dump_as_bytes is tagged in oslo.serialization 1.10.0. a solution would be to bump it in global-requirements, right? | 14:39 |
| mriedem | because dump_as_bytes isn't in oslo.serialization 1.4.0 which is the lower bound https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/stable/liberty/global-requirements.txt#L98 | 14:39 |
| mriedem | but it is in 2.1.0 as the upper bound https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/stable/liberty/upper-constraints.txt#L200 | 14:39 |
| slagle | mriedem: we dont install from pip, we r using delorean which is building rpm's from the latest commits on stable/liberty | 14:39 |
| mriedem | claudiub: we don't raise mins in g-r if we can help it | 14:39 |
| slagle | mriedem: so maybe the issue is wound up in that somehow | 14:39 |
| mriedem | slagle: yeah this is definitely wrong, | 14:39 |
| mriedem | slagle: no you're right on this one | 14:40 |
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| mriedem | what i'm trying to figure out is how the newly proposed backward compat process would have caught this, which i don't think it would have | 14:40 |
| claudiub | mriedem: ok, cool. | 14:40 |
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| mriedem | edleafe: thanks, +2s all around | 14:45 |
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| tobasco | Anybody up for a challenge? This actually breaks the implementation of counted disk usage for Nova when having Cinder volumes as root disks. https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1508907 | 14:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1508907 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "local_gb_used wrong in compute_nodes table when using Dell Cinder backend" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:46 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy et al - the optional project_ids patch I think is ready to go in as a microversion - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233076/ | 14:51 |
| kashyap | matrohon: Thanks! | 14:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Fix format detection in libvirt snapshot https://review.openstack.org/264812 | 15:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Fix format conversion in libvirt snapshot https://review.openstack.org/264813 | 15:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Fix backing file detection in libvirt live snapshot https://review.openstack.org/264814 | 15:00 |
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| mdbooth | ndipanov: ^^^ Do you have time to review CVE patches? | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | mriedem, or any others that have an understanding of nova's storage interaction: Any idea what's going on with bug 1508907 | 15:06 |
| openstack | bug 1508907 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "local_gb_used wrong in compute_nodes table when using Dell Cinder backend" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1508907 | 15:06 |
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| smcginnis | Looks like local storage space is incorrectly evaluated for external storage. | 15:06 |
| kashyap | mdbooth: In relation to the excellent sleuthing you've done in the above bug (from your patch series), did you also see this? - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1415087 | 15:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1415087 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "[OSSA 2015-011] Format-guessing and file disclosure in image convert (CVE-2015-1850, CVE-2015-1851)" [High,Incomplete] - Assigned to Tony Breeds (o-tony) | 15:07 |
| kashyap | mdbooth: Maybe your patch series fixes that too. | 15:08 |
| mdbooth | kashyap: Nope. That looks different. | 15:08 |
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| mdbooth | kashyap: Although note the change in: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264813/1/nova/virt/images.py | 15:09 |
| kashyap | mdbooth: It's related -- the bug I pointed involves guessing backing file format. | 15:10 |
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| * kashyap clicks | 15:10 | |
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| mdbooth | kashyap: Yes, indeed. | 15:10 |
| kashyap | Which is clearly not desirable. | 15:10 |
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| kashyap | mdbooth: More specifically, | 15:11 |
| kashyap | In this line https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/utils.py#L87 | 15:11 |
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| kashyap | The base image format ought to be identified, so that we can specifiy a value for -o backing_fmt | 15:12 |
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| ndipanov | mdbooth, ping me when jenkins comes back happy | 15:13 |
| mdbooth | ndipanov: Will do | 15:13 |
| ndipanov | and I'll +2 | 15:13 |
| mdbooth | Thanks | 15:14 |
| auggy | sdague: omg i can't believe it's finally ready :D | 15:15 |
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| mriedem_meeting | slagle: +W on your revert, thanks again | 15:36 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem_meeting: happy New Year, mate :) | 15:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: virt: introduce libosinfo library to set hardware policy https://review.openstack.org/149625 | 15:41 |
| mriedem_meeting | uh oh | 15:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: use osinfo when configuring network model https://review.openstack.org/149627 | 15:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: adding a class to retrieve hardware properties https://review.openstack.org/149626 | 15:41 |
| mriedem_meeting | jaypipes: i heard you became a monk and moved to a cave somewhere | 15:42 |
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| mriedem | i guess that would technically be more of a hermit | 15:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: use osinfo when configuring the disk bus https://review.openstack.org/149628 | 15:43 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: lol, no.. just a 2 week trip to Russia and Ukraine, then holidays | 15:44 |
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| mriedem | welcome back | 15:46 |
| mriedem | fun times are to be had | 15:46 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: :) indeed. hopefully I can be a better contributor this quarter. | 15:47 |
| mriedem | this quarter :) | 15:47 |
| mriedem | spoken like a true exec | 15:47 |
| mriedem | just make sure you have your projections on my desk by end of day friday | 15:48 |
| mriedem | thanks | 15:48 |
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| bauzas | wait, what? if jaypipes is a true exec, should he be wearing a suit? | 15:49 |
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| auggy | if he's a remote exec, then he'd probably just wear one of these - https://www.betabrand.com/mens-business-suit-onesie-hybrid.html | 15:50 |
| bauzas | https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a5/d6/af/a5d6af7969316d765ba29a6c11242a40.jpg | 15:50 |
| mriedem | that is a thick looking coat | 15:51 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: it's made of sweatpants I think | 15:51 |
| mriedem | too hot | 15:51 |
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| mriedem | wool sweatpants at that | 15:52 |
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| auggy | looks like it's a lightweight cotton poly sweatpant fabric blend | 15:53 |
| auggy | and the jacket has vents | 15:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Eoghan Glynn proposed openstack/nova: doc: corrections to the server concepts docco https://review.openstack.org/264839 | 15:53 |
| auggy | wow the things people come up with | 15:53 |
| mriedem | auggy: have you worked in retail before, | 15:53 |
| mriedem | because you really said that too easily | 15:53 |
| auggy | haha not really, i did work in an ice cream shop once | 15:53 |
| bauzas | that's where I'm angry to be a French because I don't understand you, folks | 15:54 |
| auggy | and my first job out of college was developer support for microsoft, i had to sort of sell things | 15:54 |
| mriedem | bauzas: "lightweight cotton poly sweatpant fabric blend" is not meant to be understood | 15:54 |
| auggy | like support and licenses | 15:54 |
| mriedem | bauzas: like 'credit default swap' | 15:54 |
| bauzas | probably :) | 15:54 |
| jaypipes | auggy: that is awesome. :) | 15:57 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: fuug, I can't believe I just wrote quarter above... guh. | 15:57 |
| auggy | jaypipes: at least you didn't say fiscal | 15:58 |
| jaypipes | auggy: tru nuf. | 15:58 |
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| pjm_ | Hi there | 15:59 |
| pjm_ | I'm currently looking to develop a new driver for OpenStack | 15:59 |
| pjm_ | but the only info I found about nova is this website: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/ | 16:00 |
| ndipanov | pjm_, what kind of driver? | 16:00 |
| pjm_ | there is any documentation file that I could use? | 16:00 |
| pjm_ | A driver for deploying virtual machines in a public cloud | 16:00 |
| pjm_ | for example digital ocean | 16:00 |
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| pjm_ | i see that already exists an driver for the EC2 (https://github.com/openstack/ec2-driver) | 16:01 |
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| mriedem | first time i've seen ec2-driver | 16:02 |
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| ndipanov | yeah me 2 | 16:02 |
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| ndipanov | I have to say that I have my doubts about this kind of stuff | 16:03 |
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| alaski | haven't we essentially said we're not interested in supporting this? | 16:03 |
| mriedem | probably | 16:04 |
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| dansmith | alaski: correct | 16:04 |
| mriedem | but probably not officially in a TC meeting with a change to the governance repo | 16:04 |
| mriedem | :) | 16:04 |
| sdague | yeh, it was an unconference pitch a couple of summits ago | 16:04 |
| mriedem | maybe we need a change to the nova devref's 'scope' page | 16:04 |
| mriedem | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/project_scope.html | 16:04 |
| mriedem | sub-section of http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/project_scope.html#compute-resources | 16:05 |
| mriedem | 'thou shalt not have an in tree driver that proxies to a public cloud' | 16:05 |
| ndipanov | I think we'd want to be more specific than that | 16:06 |
| ndipanov | since it obviously seems like a good idea to people | 16:06 |
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| pjm_ | so in Nova isn't supposed to support public cloud ? | 16:07 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263500/ | 16:07 |
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| alaski | pjm_: Nova is not an API for managing other public clouds | 16:08 |
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| ndipanov | I am actually interested why people think this is a good idea now | 16:09 |
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| pjm_ | Hmm, I thinking that could be used because that GIT respository | 16:10 |
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| pjm_ | so Nova is only supposed to work directly with physical hypervisors right? | 16:10 |
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| dansmith | pjm_: yeah, we've had the conversation many times about nova aggregating large sets of resources behind a single host and the conversation always seems to settle on not doing that | 16:12 |
| dansmith | pjm_: even the vmware driver's aggregation of multiple machines is highly problematic | 16:12 |
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| pjm_ | dansmith: thanks, sorry i misunderstood and when i saw that repository I was thinking that were acceptable | 16:13 |
| pjm_ | its wise to make an independent component then, right? | 16:14 |
| mriedem | pjm_: there is nothing preventing you from creating a git repo that does something like that | 16:14 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: check graphic/serial consoles at pre_live_migration step https://review.openstack.org/254709 | 16:14 |
| alaski | pjm_: I don't think any of us were aware of that repo | 16:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce block_stats to return device stats https://review.openstack.org/251288 | 16:14 |
| mriedem | pjm_: it just means we aren't going to take it in tree | 16:14 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: return a root block device https://review.openstack.org/249139 | 16:14 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce exceptions handler https://review.openstack.org/257991 | 16:14 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce get_job_info to Guest's object https://review.openstack.org/250740 | 16:14 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: configure migrate max downtime https://review.openstack.org/250739 | 16:14 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce "abort_job" to Guest's object https://review.openstack.org/250738 | 16:14 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce "migrate" to Guest's object https://review.openstack.org/250365 | 16:14 |
| dansmith | pjm_: just be aware that doing it externally means you're on the hook for chasing our internal API as we do not have a stable external API for out of tree drivers | 16:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Petrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: HyperV: Add SerialConsoleOps class https://review.openstack.org/184040 | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Petrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: HyperV: Nova serial console access support https://review.openstack.org/145004 | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Petrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: HyperV: Add serial console handler class https://review.openstack.org/184039 | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Petrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: objects: Added serial port properties to ImageMetaProps https://review.openstack.org/261035 | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Petrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: HyperV: Add serial console proxy https://review.openstack.org/184038 | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Jialiang proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Prefer ShutdownGuest to PowerOffVM_Task https://review.openstack.org/264852 | 16:19 |
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| ndipanov | mdbooth, how are the cve patches doing? | 16:21 |
| sahid | jaypipes: hello, any plan about osvif project? | 16:21 |
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| jaypipes | sahid: hi! I think we should do a meeting next week to discuss it. Everything is ready to go (to bring all the plugin repos into git.openstack.org and get test coverage up) but there's at least 6 interested parties (you, me, danpb, mleroy, smooney and moshe levi) that need to get coordinated :) | 16:24 |
| mdbooth | ndipanov: Waiting on a test to fail so I can do a recheck. | 16:25 |
| mdbooth | ndipanov: So, badly. | 16:25 |
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| jaypipes | sahid: let me send out an email with a proposed calendar event. | 16:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrea Rosa proposed openstack/nova: Adding guard on None value for some helpers method https://review.openstack.org/264853 | 16:26 |
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| sahid | cool, thanks jaypipes | 16:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jialiang proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Prefer ShutdownGuest to PowerOffVM_Task https://review.openstack.org/264852 | 16:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrea Rosa proposed openstack/nova: Adding guard on None value for some helper methods https://review.openstack.org/264853 | 16:36 |
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| mdbooth | ndipanov: So I have 2 +1s from Jenkins, and a spurious -1 which is back in the gate. | 16:45 |
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| mdbooth | ndipanov: I guess the 2 +1s mean that it's cherry-picking, given that they're dependent on the patch with a -1. | 16:45 |
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| mdbooth | ndipanov: Anyway, +1s on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264813/1 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264814/1 | 16:46 |
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| mdbooth | Spurious -1 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264812/1 | 16:47 |
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| mriedem | mdbooth: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264812/ failed grenade | 16:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Raildo Mascena proposed openstack/nova: Nested Quota Driver https://review.openstack.org/242626 | 16:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Raildo Mascena proposed openstack/nova: Nested Quota Driver: Get Hierarchy info https://review.openstack.org/242568 | 16:51 |
| mriedem | did you check why before you rechecked? | 16:51 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: Yeah. Looked like an infrastructure issue. | 16:51 |
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| mdbooth | mriedem: Was I wrong? | 16:51 |
| mriedem | looking | 16:51 |
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| mriedem | 10.176.160.41 | FAILED => SSH Error: ssh: connect to host 10.176.160.41 port 22: Connection timed out | 16:52 |
| mriedem | yeah infra issue | 16:52 |
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| BobBall | I saw the same issue on another job - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264812/ - hope it's just bad luck rather than a couple of cases of a big issue :) | 16:53 |
| mriedem | probably just the slow nodes thing | 16:54 |
| mdbooth | BobBall: That's the same one :) | 16:54 |
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| BobBall | Oh... that's the one I just rechecked lol sorry | 16:54 |
| BobBall | yes, I assumed it was a different job :) | 16:54 |
| BobBall | And I _very nearly_ used "It's friday" as my excuse... ... | 16:55 |
| mdbooth | Friday^ | 16:55 |
| BobBall | The first week back after Christmas is always bad! | 16:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/nova: Added new scheduler filter: AggregateTypeExtraSpecsAffinityFilter https://review.openstack.org/189279 | 16:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: pci: do not filter out any SRIOV Physical Functions https://review.openstack.org/249016 | 16:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: pci: changing the claiming and allocation logic for PF/VF assignment https://review.openstack.org/249018 | 16:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: pci: adding support to specify a device_type in pci requests https://review.openstack.org/259254 | 16:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: objects: adding a parent_addr field to the PciDevice object https://review.openstack.org/249015 | 16:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: neutron: pci_request logic considers 'direct-physical' vnic type https://review.openstack.org/262584 | 16:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: pci: Add utility method for getting the MAC addr https://review.openstack.org/262585 | 16:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: neutron: Update the port with a MAC address for PFs https://review.openstack.org/262586 | 16:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: Add a vnic type for PF passthrough and a new libvirt vif driver https://review.openstack.org/262583 | 16:59 |
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| ndipanov | dansmith, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249015/12/nova/objects/pci_device.py | 17:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin L. Mitchell proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Add a mechanism to call out deprecated options https://review.openstack.org/257595 | 17:08 |
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| dansmith | ndipanov: I have it open and plan to look | 17:09 |
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| ndipanov | dansmith, also - this whole service by service business got me a little bit confused tbh | 17:12 |
| ndipanov | dansmith, we can't really have different generations of conductors can we/ | 17:12 |
| ndipanov | ? | 17:12 |
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| dansmith | ndipanov: if we do this sort of thing right we should be able to yeah, why not? | 17:12 |
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| ndipanov | well what if a newer compute goes to an older conductor | 17:13 |
| ndipanov | that can't work | 17:13 |
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| dansmith | computes always go after conductors | 17:13 |
| ndipanov | ok | 17:13 |
| ndipanov | that makes sense | 17:13 |
| dansmith | the point is to get the conductors upgraded before computes, but without taking them all down atomically | 17:13 |
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| ndipanov | yeah that makes sense | 17:13 |
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| doffm | rlrossit: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213041/24 | 17:18 |
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| rlrossit | doffm: yup. exactly the same thing I was talking to dansmith about yesterday with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263497/ | 17:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova: Remove version hardcoding for 'show' method https://review.openstack.org/228578 | 17:26 |
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| pjm_ | thanks for the previous replies | 17:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: mriedem: are one of you OK to do the meeting later? | 17:39 |
| mriedem | i can | 17:39 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: mriedem is | 17:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: thank you :) | 17:39 |
| mriedem | show your appreciation by reviewing this stable/liberty backport https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258695/ | 17:40 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sure | 17:40 |
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| mriedem | fixes a gate bug | 17:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, that BDM one | 17:42 |
| mriedem | yeah, that's the squashed backport since the first fix on master didn't get it | 17:43 |
| mriedem | so it's a bit weird to look at | 17:43 |
| mriedem | like rlrossit | 17:43 |
| mriedem | hi-o! | 17:44 |
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| johnthetubaguy | nice | 17:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, seems to capture those best bits of both of those changes | 17:45 |
| mriedem | it is both changes really | 17:45 |
| mriedem | just that the 2nd change on master was essentially a redo of the first | 17:45 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, only really captures the logging, but that makes sense | 17:46 |
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| rlrossit | mriedem: :( | 17:46 |
| * rlrossit has 2 names: nova-janitor, and now nova-punching-bag... | 17:47 | |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: dansmith: trying to move the testing conversation forward, got a prototype of the feature classification matrix, so we can start filling it out. Basically just adding in extra links and properties: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264719/ and http://docs-draft.openstack.org/19/264719/3/check/gate-nova-docs/08140ba//doc/build/html/feature_classification.html#prototype-feature-support-matrix | 17:48 |
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| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: looks pretty cool. not sure we'll be able to classify all features as mature/experimental/etc, especially as it applies to each driver | 17:50 |
| dansmith | but still nice looking | 17:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: yeah, I tried to keep the maturity thing driver neutral, mostly for simplicity, and keep the driver thing purely passing tests | 17:51 |
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| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: but you are right, thats not the full picture, but its better than nothing | 17:52 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: yeah | 17:52 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: it would *read* as the day that vmware adds live migration support that it's "complete" or whatever we had for live migration at the time for other drivers | 17:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Allow multiple volume attachments https://review.openstack.org/193135 | 17:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: comp: Allow multiple volume attachments https://review.openstack.org/193134 | 17:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: WIP: REST API changes to support multi-attach https://review.openstack.org/153038 | 17:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: WIP: virt: Pass host when call attach to Cinder https://review.openstack.org/256273 | 17:53 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: just need a note to look at the per-driver notes for that given thing I guess | 17:53 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, thats true | 17:54 |
| mdbooth | There's a swift job which has been running in the gate for 16 hours: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259347/ | 17:55 |
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| dane-fichter | guess it's not too "swift" then is it | 17:55 |
| mdbooth | It makes changes which reference signal handling and how the daemon runs | 17:55 |
| mdbooth | Is anybody able to kill it with fire? | 17:55 |
| dansmith | mdbooth: the top thing in the gate is only 6 hours old | 17:56 |
| dansmith | mdbooth: that thing is running in check | 17:56 |
| mdbooth | openstack/swift0 min | 17:56 |
| mdbooth | 259347,316 hr 39 min | 17:56 |
| dansmith | mdbooth: yeah, that's check | 17:56 |
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| dansmith | mdbooth: not sure why the job timeout didn't kick it out | 17:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Allow multiple volume attachments https://review.openstack.org/193135 | 17:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: comp: Allow multiple volume attachments https://review.openstack.org/193134 | 17:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: db and obj: Allow multiple volume attachments https://review.openstack.org/193133 | 17:57 |
| dansmith | mdbooth: I'd go ask in infra | 17:57 |
| BobBall | Looks like it's just running python27 as the last job which hasn't been going that long | 17:57 |
| mdbooth | dansmith: Ah, ok. It's still stealing our precious bodily^H^H^H^H^H compute though, isn't it? | 17:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: WIP: REST API changes to support multi-attach https://review.openstack.org/153038 | 17:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: WIP: virt: Pass host when call attach to Cinder https://review.openstack.org/256273 | 17:57 |
| BobBall | 38 minutes for the unit tests? | 17:57 |
| dansmith | BobBall: ah, right 39 minutes old | 17:57 |
| dansmith | mdbooth: indeed | 17:57 |
| BobBall | But from the console it looks like someone has pressed ctrl-c ;) | 17:58 |
| dansmith | mdbooth: something blocked in gate would be a REAL problem | 17:58 |
| dansmith | BobBall: lol, nice | 17:58 |
| * mdbooth is suitable chastised wrt pipeline names :) | 17:58 | |
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| mdbooth | ndipanov: w00t, 3 +1s from Jenkins :) | 17:59 |
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| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: mriedem: I fixed the things in the multi-attach spec we talked about (virt capabilities, block snapshot create for volume and boot from volume) | 17:59 |
| mdbooth | Or if ndipanov has gone for the day, does anybody else feel like reviewing the 3 cve patches? | 18:00 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: mriedem: please take a look a let me know what else to figure out with this | 18:00 |
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| BobBall | johnthetubaguy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254022/ (the one we discussed in yesterday's XenAPI meeting) is now ready for your viewing pleasure | 18:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: damm, I hope to get to those today, will be tomorrow now | 18:01 |
| BobBall | Tomorrow is fine. I have written it down. "johnthetubaguy will review 254022 on 08/01/2016." | 18:02 |
| BobBall | :D | 18:02 |
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| ndipanov | mdbooth, I +2ed the first two which are the most critical | 18:13 |
| ndipanov | I will look at the last one tomorrow | 18:13 |
| ndipanov | (again) | 18:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Clean up filter_properties/availability_zone in boot https://review.openstack.org/254434 | 18:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Persist the request spec during an instance boot https://review.openstack.org/258628 | 18:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova: Remove version hardcoding for 'show' method https://review.openstack.org/228578 | 18:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add xenapi support for XenapiLiveMigrateData objects https://review.openstack.org/247853 | 18:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Actually pass the migration data object down to the virt drivers https://review.openstack.org/248211 | 18:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Allow sending the migrate data objects over the wire https://review.openstack.org/251588 | 18:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add xenapi support for XenapiLiveMigrateData objects https://review.openstack.org/247853 | 18:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Actually pass the migration data object down to the virt drivers https://review.openstack.org/248211 | 18:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Allow sending the migrate data objects over the wire https://review.openstack.org/251588 | 18:38 |
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| mriedem | ildikov: did you actually post a change that amends the spec too? | 18:39 |
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| mriedem | i think we want the spec updated also for the things we have to cover with boot from volume that weren't mentioned originally | 18:39 |
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| ildikov | mriedem: only thing left, I fixed the code first | 18:40 |
| ildikov | mriedem: that gives time to review it while writing up some additional text to the spec | 18:40 |
| mriedem | sneaky | 18:40 |
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| ildikov | well, I'm not as big expert especially in the Nova code I would want to, so I wanted to be sure what we already agreeded is done | 18:41 |
| ildikov | the deadline is pretty close and after this amount of time and also work I really would like to see an initial version in, even if we block more things first than necessary | 18:42 |
| ildikov | mriedem: actually there's an open spec for the API changes, contains only the show volume, etc. things | 18:44 |
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| ildikov | is it ok if I update that with what we discussed or should this be an amendment to the merged part? | 18:44 |
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| mriedem | can you remind me the things we talked about blocking? boot from volume with delete_on_termination=True and multiattach=True volume? | 18:45 |
| mriedem | and the assisted snasphost API | 18:45 |
| mriedem | is what i remember | 18:45 |
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| ildikov | mriedem: actually the delete_on_termination should be fine | 18:45 |
| mriedem | i had assumed there was a single spec, not multiple | 18:45 |
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| ildikov | the volume delete errors are only logged in Nova everywhere | 18:45 |
| mriedem | yeah i saw the conversation on that a few days ago | 18:46 |
| ildikov | and Cinder does not remove it if there're still attachments | 18:46 |
| mriedem | b/c nova swallows them in _clean_volumes | 18:46 |
| ildikov | I blocked boot from volume in general if it's an existing multiattachable volume | 18:46 |
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| ildikov | there was a single spec, but johnthetubaguy asked to delay the API layer changes for now as volume stuff is changing in Nova | 18:47 |
| mriedem | hmm, since this isn't a priority for the release is that supposed to get an exception from the spec freeze? | 18:47 |
| mriedem | which already passed | 18:48 |
| ildikov | I also blocked create_volume_snapshot for multattach volumes | 18:48 |
| ildikov | the API layer changes were not critical | 18:48 |
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| ildikov | in the sense of you don't need to change any API request to actually support multiattach | 18:49 |
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| jidar | what settings are required in a RDO based install (so, haproxy, compute nodes and controllers) in order to change the default port of nova-vnc from 6080 to something else? I assume haproxy on the front end will need to listen on the address, then on the compute nodes they'll need "novncproxy_base_url" is there something else though? | 18:49 |
| ildikov | mriedem: so the multiattach flag is not showed on the Nova API for instance as far as I can remember | 18:50 |
| mriedem | jidar: you should probably ask in the rdo channel | 18:50 |
| jidar | mriedem: don't see how it's specific to rdo though? | 18:50 |
| mriedem | jidar: then see the channel topic | 18:51 |
| jidar | woops! | 18:51 |
| ildikov | mriedem: but Cinder can show all the proper info about a volume | 18:51 |
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| mriedem | ildikov: so cinder api will show the multiple attachments for the volume, right | 18:51 |
| ildikov | yes | 18:51 |
| ildikov | at least it should I haven't tried yet TBH | 18:51 |
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| mriedem | so if delete_on_termination=True isn't a problem, why are we blocking BFV with a pre-existing multiattach volume again? | 18:52 |
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| mriedem | sorry, lots of things going on this week so my memory is bad | 18:53 |
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| mriedem | since that's really the same as booting an instance and then attaching that multiattach volume later | 18:53 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy had a concern that it's not a good idea to have two instances booting from the same volume | 18:53 |
| mriedem | the difference with BFV was the delete_on_termination flag | 18:53 |
| mriedem | hmm, i guess i don't see the difference from that with just booting those instances and attaching the same volume after they are active | 18:53 |
| ildikov | I would need to know how BFV works in order to answer this, sorry :( | 18:54 |
| mriedem | it's basically the same thing when you bring your own volume, | 18:54 |
| mriedem | the difference is the delete_on_termination flag | 18:54 |
| mriedem | volume attach doesn't have that | 18:54 |
| mriedem | but if we don't care, then i think they are the same scenario | 18:55 |
| ildikov | we can discuss it in the spec amendment, it's blocked now, which is easy to remove if we're sure it's ok | 18:55 |
| mriedem | the difference with BFV is nova does the orchestration of doing the attach and then waiting for the volume to be in-use | 18:55 |
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| ildikov | is there anything that can have race condition issues there for instance? | 18:55 |
| mriedem | my concern was someone would BFV with delete_on_termination=True and then later attach that volume to another instance, and then delete the first and break the 2nd | 18:56 |
| mriedem | but cinder prevents that | 18:56 |
| mriedem | umm, we could maybe race to use the same device | 18:56 |
| ildikov | yes, it does, it would be a bug in Cinder otherwise | 18:56 |
| mriedem | i think the race would be basically the same as an attach request | 18:56 |
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| mriedem | and the only race i see there is the race to reserve the device name | 18:56 |
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| ildikov | yeah, I remember the test for that case | 18:57 |
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| ildikov | you can convince me kind of easily, it's also a small protion in the code currently, takes no time to remove | 18:59 |
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| ildikov | we can discuss it with John and then leave or remove the block based on the decision | 18:59 |
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| smatzek | for BFV I think the only thing you'd want to explicitly block to address johnthetubaguy 's concerns are blocking multi-attach=True for root_bdm (boot_index = 0 in BDM), and possibly check if the Cinder volume has bootable=True set on it. | 19:05 |
| smatzek | what would block two instances from having the same boot disk but allow server creations to specify attachments of mult-attached volumes. | 19:05 |
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| ildikov | smatzek: I check boot_index = 0 in BDM right now, but not Cinder bootable | 19:10 |
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| ildikov | smatzek: so I assume it might block a bit more than what's very necessary | 19:11 |
| smatzek | blocking multi-attach=true of volume that will be at boot_index=0 is probably good enough, and allowing all others. | 19:11 |
| ildikov | I check the destination_type too and only block if that's volume too | 19:11 |
| ildikov | yeah, this is what I'm doing at the moment | 19:11 |
| ildikov | or I hope the code I wrote really does the intention was this :) | 19:12 |
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| ildikov | smatzek: did I understand correctly that if volume has bootable=False it should be all right? | 19:15 |
| smatzek | ildikov: it probably would be, but it's probably an erroneous case of a mis-identified volume, or a strange case where you have a non-bootable volume first, before the volume with your master boot record. | 19:16 |
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| ildikov | smatzek: then it's most probably fine to not check that, I was wondering about what you wrote too | 19:17 |
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| ildikov | it's a bit of a question that which error message we would like to return to the user | 19:17 |
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| * sc68cal sings the lyrics to Zappa's Token of my Extremes | 19:43 | |
| sc68cal | darn it | 19:44 |
| sc68cal | wrong window lol | 19:44 |
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| dansmith | sc68cal: tell me more | 19:45 |
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| sc68cal | just having a zappa kind of day | 19:47 |
| mriedem | don't eat the yellow snow | 19:48 |
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| auggy | Always wise advice | 19:55 |
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| bauzas | meeting in 1h, right? | 20:01 |
| mriedem | alaski: melwitt: doffm: dansmith: jaypipes: ML thread on cells v2 and soft-delete for the flavors tables http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/083518.html | 20:01 |
| mriedem | bauzas: yeah | 20:01 |
| mriedem | bauzas: ^ | 20:01 |
| alaski | mriedem: thanks | 20:01 |
| mriedem | np | 20:01 |
| bauzas | ack | 20:01 |
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| mriedem | sdague: the remove-mox bp is primarily in response to the py34 races right? | 20:02 |
| sdague | mriedem: well, that's the final straw | 20:03 |
| sdague | it was direction to stop using it a long time ago | 20:03 |
| mriedem | them's are fighting words? | 20:03 |
| mriedem | ok | 20:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: API sample testing without project_id https://review.openstack.org/256089 | 20:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: Make project_id optional in v2.1 urls https://review.openstack.org/233076 | 20:15 |
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| sdague | mriedem: gate-nova-python34 is currently one of our worst gate reset offenders - http://status.openstack.org//elastic-recheck/data/uncategorized.html | 20:26 |
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| mriedem | sdague: yeah, dims had a change to skip some of those | 20:27 |
| * mriedem looks for it | 20:27 | |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264368/ | 20:27 |
| sdague | actually, it is the worst offending job | 20:27 |
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| mriedem | yeah, i know | 20:27 |
| sdague | ok, I think we've still had a fail after that | 20:27 |
| mriedem | i wonder if these are hitting ovh nodes and they are just slow enough that that tickles the mox failures | 20:28 |
| mriedem | it's funny how the py34 stuff hasn't been such a problem until recently | 20:28 |
| sdague | the config drive http://logs.openstack.org/26/224726/16/gate/gate-nova-python34/1dda5ee/console.html#_2016-01-07_18_17_49_115 | 20:28 |
| sdague | that was rax-dfw | 20:28 |
| sdague | well, we used to run a lot less tests in this job | 20:28 |
| mriedem | sdague: i have a fix for that | 20:28 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264393/ | 20:28 |
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| sdague | mriedem: +2 | 20:32 |
| sdague | when is the nova meeting today? | 20:32 |
| mriedem | 28 minutes | 20:32 |
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| mriedem | i already put py34 on the gate status section | 20:33 |
| sdague | ok | 20:33 |
| mriedem | which is why i was asking about the intent of the remove-mox bp | 20:33 |
| mriedem | since i put that series in there | 20:33 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: :( since when did we agree that we would start supporting rolling upgrade of the controller services (i.e. run two different versions of the nova-conductor simultaneously)? | 20:33 |
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| auggy | sdague: thanks for rebasing the patch, I totally forgot to do that | 20:34 |
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| rlrossit | dansmith: I found my first fun-ness bug of DictCompat! http://paste.openstack.org/show/483264/ | 20:36 |
| rlrossit | you can't set agg.availability_zone = None in kwargs or any time after | 20:37 |
| rlrossit | jaypipes: where was that said? | 20:38 |
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| bauzas | rlrossit: IIRC az is not an object field for the Aggregate | 20:40 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: we talked about shooting for it during liberty, and agreed in tokyo that we'd limit any new online migrations if possible | 20:40 |
| bauzas | rlrossit: it's just a property | 20:41 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: why is that sadface? you like downtime? :) | 20:41 |
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| rlrossit | bauzas: it's taken out of the metadata field, but the metadata field doesn't allow you to set agg.metadata['availability_zone'] = None | 20:41 |
| bauzas | rlrossit: yeah that https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/aggregate.py#L150-L151 | 20:42 |
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| bauzas | rlrossit: since there is no property setter, it leaves the metadata to be set | 20:42 |
| rlrossit | bauzas: right, and I can't even set it to none via metadata | 20:42 |
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| rlrossit | agg.metadata['availability_zone'] = None ----> KABOOM | 20:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Replace stubs.Set with stub_out (functional tests) https://review.openstack.org/264297 | 20:45 |
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| rlrossit | every time someone creates a class with NovaObjectDictCompat, a kitten dies | 20:46 |
| * rlrossit looks at cdent | 20:46 | |
| sdague | auggy: no prob, I still don't have a full story around new samples files, as my testing does need them. But at least the testing will be in there. | 20:46 |
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| bauzas | rlrossit: interesting | 20:49 |
| bauzas | rlrossit: but there is a default AZ, you know? | 20:49 |
| rlrossit | bauzas: test_create_with_null_availability_zone ignores that though :) | 20:50 |
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| bauzas | rlrossit: I miss the convo history | 20:50 |
| rlrossit | bauzas: basically, I'm trying to get rid of NovaObjectDictCompat for aggregate, and I learned the API tests were mocking a little too much out | 20:53 |
| rlrossit | dicts EVERYWHERE | 20:53 |
| bauzas | I see | 20:53 |
| bauzas | yeah the Aggregate object is a pretty old one AFAIR | 20:54 |
| bauzas | so I'm not surprised | 20:54 |
| rlrossit | why does it have to come first in the alphabet :( | 20:54 |
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| bauzas | call it Zaggregate | 20:55 |
| rlrossit | so now I'm trying to convert the API tests to use the object instead of dicts, and I'm getting my new funness | 20:55 |
| bauzas | I see | 20:55 |
| bauzas | again, I wonder something | 20:55 |
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| bauzas | agg.az = foo should not update the metadata value for the az key | 20:55 |
| bauzas | but rather should just set an az attr to the object | 20:56 |
| bauzas | because it's a property like I said | 20:56 |
| bauzas | with no setter | 20:56 |
| rlrossit | bauzas: it's stored as an obj_extra_field, but the fact it's a read-only property right now you have to go through metadata | 20:56 |
| rlrossit | right | 20:56 |
| rlrossit | so we either need to make a setter or get rid of the prop altogether | 20:56 |
| rlrossit | is this bug-worthy? | 20:57 |
| * rlrossit wonders if it's technically a bug in o.vo too | 20:57 | |
| bauzas | I wonder the right approach | 20:57 |
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| rlrossit | can the almighty knowledge of dansmith come to the rescue? | 20:58 |
| bauzas | that said, I feel a setter doesn't sound scary unless I'm missing some obviousness | 20:58 |
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| mriedem | nova meeting in 1 min | 20:59 |
| rlrossit | way to ruin the fun mriedem | 20:59 |
| bauzas | dansmith: tl;dr the Aggregate obj provides the az property which means that setting the az attribute directly doesn't really make sense | 20:59 |
| dansmith | yeah | 20:59 |
| dansmith | it's not a property though right? | 21:00 |
| rlrossit | and agg.metadata['az'] = None is also not allowed because of DictOfStrings coerce | 21:00 |
| dansmith | I mean, | 21:00 |
| dansmith | it shouldn't be a field | 21:00 |
| bauzas | but since rlrossit is fool enough to change the existing dict accessors by using the dot notation | 21:00 |
| rlrossit | it's an obj_extra_field | 21:00 |
| mriedem | mikal tjones cburgess jgrimm adrian_otto funzo mjturek jcookekhugen irina_pov krtaylor danpb alexpilotti flip214 jaypipes garyk edleafe dimsmoshele anteaya Nisha sileht claudiub lxsli neiljerram markus_z swamireddy alevine tonyb andreykurilin ndipanov sc68cal akuriata artom jlvillal mnestratov kashyap aloga rgeragnov bauzas xyang tpatil med_ nic scottda nagyz belliottdguitarbite sdague jroll diana_clarke _diana_ raildo jichen gjayavel | 21:00 |
| jroll | spam! | 21:00 |
| dansmith | yeah, so I would just change the tests to set it in the metadata | 21:00 |
| bauzas | +1 | 21:00 |
| rlrossit | dansmith: can't | 21:00 |
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| mriedem | jroll: tell those people to figure out how to work a calendar | 21:00 |
| rlrossit | because of agg.metadata['az'] = None blows things up | 21:01 |
| rlrossit | (that was my first try) | 21:01 |
| bauzas | well, that IRC ping is still useful :) | 21:01 |
| jroll | mriedem: blame exchange | 21:01 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: doesn't that mean the test is checking something that is not legit? | 21:01 |
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| bauzas | especially when you're out of your computer but still get pings on your mobile phone when someone is bugging you :) | 21:01 |
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| rlrossit | dansmith: dunno | 21:01 |
| rlrossit | there's lots of api tests for testing against null az's | 21:02 |
| rlrossit | s/lots/like 4/ | 21:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova-specs: Amend multi-attach volume spec with limitations https://review.openstack.org/264965 | 21:05 |
| ildikov | mriedem: amendments to the approved multi-attach spec ^^ | 21:05 |
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| mriedem | thanks | 21:06 |
| ildikov | np, I hope I managed to capture our discussions | 21:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova-specs: Amend multi-attach volume spec with limitations https://review.openstack.org/264965 | 21:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark McLoughlin proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: tweak to migration flags mangling reno https://review.openstack.org/264969 | 21:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: API sample testing without project_id https://review.openstack.org/256089 | 21:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Replace stubs.Set with stub_out (functional tests) https://review.openstack.org/264297 | 21:16 |
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| rlrossit | dansmith: bauzas: don't know if this ever came to a resolution, but how do we want to handle the null az's? remove the tests or fix the object? | 21:47 |
| dansmith | I don't know what the right answer is | 21:47 |
| dansmith | I suspect bauzas does though | 21:47 |
| bauzas | rlrossit: tbh, it's pretty late for me discussing that | 21:47 |
| dansmith | if null az is wrong, then fix the tests, otherwise fix the object to allow null | 21:47 |
| bauzas | rlrossit: but I need to check if we allow the az to be nullable by the API | 21:48 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: jaypipes might be a good one to ask | 21:48 |
| bauzas | rlrossit: because IIRC, az is just a key | 21:48 |
| bauzas | for the aggregate | 21:48 |
| bauzas | rlrossit: which means that you can provide an agg without providing a metadata az | 21:48 |
| sdague | I thought if you didn't set az it came back as 'nova' | 21:49 |
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| bauzas | and since it's a API call, it would mean that setting the az metadata would mean that it would be an empty string, not a None | 21:49 |
| bauzas | sdague: 'nova' is the default AZ value for services | 21:49 |
| melwitt | there's a default az that applies if one isn't set on the aggregate, right? | 21:49 |
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| bauzas | here, the problem is purely about the aggregate resource AFAIU | 21:50 |
| bauzas | meh, netsplit | 21:50 |
| bauzas | I mean | 21:51 |
| rlrossit | bauzas: sdague: the main test in question is https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/unit/api/openstack/compute/test_aggregates.py#L220 which is stubbing out what the ag object returns | 21:51 |
| bauzas | the default AZ value is for hosts | 21:51 |
| rlrossit | currently it returns a null az if one isn't specified | 21:51 |
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| bauzas | sec, checking the API | 21:51 |
| rlrossit | sdague: if it always returns at least *something* I would say these tests are invalid because the AggregateAPI will always *return* something | 21:52 |
| * rlrossit *likes* *asterisks* | 21:52 | |
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| sdague | the asserts in a closure used as a stub is making me a little nauseous | 21:53 |
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| rlrossit | sdague: agreed | 21:53 |
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| rlrossit | whoever's doing self.stubs.Set is going to love this file | 21:54 |
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| sdague | rlrossit: honestly, I just figure out what a better test is and write that, and delete this test | 21:55 |
| bauzas | okay, I verified | 21:55 |
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| dansmith | sdague: we don't know if we should allow the thing it's doing or not though | 21:56 |
| bauzas | and there is no way to set a nullable AZ | 21:56 |
| bauzas | lemme show you, folks | 21:56 |
| dansmith | the other way to look at this is, | 21:56 |
| bauzas | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/api.py#L3496-L3497 | 21:56 |
| dansmith | the unit tests can be wrong, but if we messed this up in icehouse (when this object was added) and haven't heard about it yet ... | 21:56 |
| dansmith | that'd be fairly amazing | 21:56 |
| dims | sdague : the -2 on ec2 patch ... | 21:56 |
| bauzas | rlrossit: sdague: ^ | 21:56 |
| dims | sdague : looks like i missed the meeting an hour ago (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263368/) | 21:56 |
| bauzas | so if the az argument is none, we avoid it to be set | 21:57 |
| sdague | dims: damn, we never talked about that one. johnthetubaguy was going to add the agenda | 21:57 |
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| bauzas | rlrossit: so, kill the testes IMHO | 21:57 |
| bauzas | tests | 21:57 |
| sdague | bauzas: yeh, that's what I vaguely remembered | 21:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Move config options from nova/api directory https://review.openstack.org/258180 | 21:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Move nova/opts.py to nova/conf/ https://review.openstack.org/255436 | 21:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: single point of entry for sample config generation https://review.openstack.org/260015 | 21:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the API options (2) https://review.openstack.org/260587 | 21:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the API options (1) https://review.openstack.org/260586 | 21:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the API options (3) https://review.openstack.org/260588 | 21:57 |
| rlrossit | bauzas: heh, if they wouldn't have stubbed out so much they would've found that those tests are wrong by blowing up on what I'm seeing now | 21:57 |
| rlrossit | I will give them the axe then | 21:58 |
| bauzas | I checked and we allow to pass a None value from the wsgi resource to the compute API, but that above conditional avoids it to be persisted | 21:58 |
| rlrossit | or do we want me to remove them in a separate prequel patch? | 21:58 |
| dansmith | bauzas: please don't kill the testes | 21:58 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: prequel | 21:58 |
| rlrossit | rlrossit_commits++ | 21:59 |
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| bauzas | yay | 21:59 |
| bauzas | I meant, it should be done in a sep patch | 21:59 |
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| bauzas | and probably we should have an unittest verifying that if we pass a nullable az, it's not part of the metadata | 21:59 |
| dims | sdague : want me to throw it to openstack-dev? | 21:59 |
| bauzas | unless it's already written somewhere :) | 22:00 |
| dansmith | bauzas: well, the object will reject that for us | 22:00 |
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| dansmith | bauzas: unless you mean confirm that it won't stringify the None, but I don't think it will | 22:00 |
| bauzas | dansmith: I'm thinking that at the API level | 22:00 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: to prevent some behavioural change that could occur if someone would drop that lofic | 22:00 |
| bauzas | logic | 22:00 |
| dansmith | meh, maybe, we rely on known-working validation in a lot of places but.. | 22:01 |
| bauzas | surely, it would be raised by the object, but we could have some unpredictable side-effects | 22:01 |
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| mriedem | auggy: thanks for jumping on the bug triage week thing | 22:02 |
| auggy | np, i am still pretty new but maybe know just enough to maybe be useful | 22:02 |
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| bauzas | oh sec | 22:02 |
| bauzas | man | 22:02 |
| bauzas | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/api.py#L3519-L3520 is awesome | 22:02 |
| tjones | im looking for a description on what i need to do to run python 34 tests - when i run tox -epy34 i get a bunch of errors about dependencys and unable to find python.h. so i clearly have missed someting in my setup. any pointers? | 22:02 |
| bauzas | because we can update the metadata by passing a null az | 22:03 |
| _diana_ | 22:03 | |
| bauzas | I guess it's a bug | 22:03 |
| rlrossit | bauzas: which the object will reject | 22:03 |
| bauzas | for good reasons | 22:03 |
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| edleafe | _diana_: I agree! | 22:03 |
| bauzas | so, drop drop drop | 22:03 |
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| rlrossit | should I open a bug to link this to, or does this count as "clean up"? | 22:04 |
| rlrossit | bauzas: dansmith ^ | 22:04 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: mriedem will say yes | 22:04 |
| dansmith | I would say no, given a healthy commit message | 22:04 |
| mriedem | so the test is expecting someting that is not real | 22:05 |
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| mriedem | or stubbing out not real things that would happen | 22:05 |
| rlrossit | that one ^ | 22:06 |
| mriedem | i don't care, if you're going to clean it up real quick | 22:06 |
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| mriedem | if i were passing through and wasn't going to work on it right now i'd report a bug and move on | 22:06 |
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| jaypipes | dansmith: the sadface was for the ugliness this adds to the codebase.. | 22:09 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: that we need to handle both cases? or the specific way it does it? | 22:10 |
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| jaypipes | dansmith: both. | 22:10 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: so you'd rather not handle both cases and always require anything that talks to the database (api,conductor,scheduler) to have to be fully atomic any time we do an upgrade? | 22:11 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: I've never seen any scenario in the wild where a conductor node was not upgraded at the same time as api and other conductors... we're talking about milliseconds of downtime here... | 22:11 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: we've never been able to tolerate it before... how is this different from what we do to support older computes talking to newer conductors? | 22:12 |
| dansmith | we could go back to telling everyone they have to upgrade all the computes alongside the control services... | 22:12 |
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| dansmith | it's also not milliseconds at all if we have to kill a conductor or api and expect it to finish what it was doing before it exits | 22:13 |
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| jaypipes | dansmith: at least with that we have an obj_make_compatible() interface that is standardized and not just random "here's a method that goes and grabs version information from the database via the objects.Service.get_xxx() call and determines every time we call save() whether or not to backport the object to some version. | 22:13 |
| dansmith | which is another goal we've had for a while.. conductors can be doing longer-running things like waiting for a scheduler reply | 22:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Chuck Carmack proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize 'spice' options https://review.openstack.org/264271 | 22:14 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: save() is that standard interface, IMHO, and just like obj_make_compatible(), it's _highly_ dependent on each case | 22:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Rossiter proposed openstack/nova: Remove null AZ tests from API tests https://review.openstack.org/264987 | 22:15 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: if you've got ideas for how to make this more standard and repeatable, then let's do it | 22:15 |
| rlrossit | dansmith: let me know if the commit message of ^ is healthy enough | 22:15 |
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| jaypipes | dansmith: I would be much happier about this change in direction if I had yet been able to witness us being able to get rid of *any* old cruft from the object classes. as it stands now, it just seems like we are doomed to live in a cluttered house of code with no end in sight to backporting and backversioning schemas. | 22:16 |
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| dansmith | rlrossit: looks good to me | 22:16 |
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| anteaya | mriedem: carl_baldwin pointed out line 53 on the etherpad to me: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-midcycle | 22:17 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: really? we dropped Instance v1 this cycle, and also did the full flavor metadata migration in an online migration just like this, and dropped *all* that code as soon as we could | 22:17 |
| anteaya | mriedem: he also shared this link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/083342.html | 22:17 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: oh? | 22:17 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: yeah let me get you some links | 22:17 |
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| anteaya | mriedem: he said he has been talking to John and the folks working on the scheduler | 22:17 |
| anteaya | mriedem: I'm not sure, perhaps that information hasn't been conveyed to you yet | 22:18 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/1337890ace918fa2555046c01c8624be014ce2d8 | 22:18 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/6f79646f71b66399599a4f56bcdc16471a20e005 | 22:18 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/5e9df4baf97fd1f495b81d3b8b612e24f344b325 | 22:19 |
| dansmith | the last one was a removal from objects and code, then a drop from sqla models, then finally a collapse of the column from the actual schema | 22:19 |
| dansmith | full lifecycke | 22:19 |
| dansmith | er, lifecycle | 22:19 |
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| mriedem | anteaya: doesn't need to be, i just haven't read through the midcycle etherpad yet | 22:21 |
| mriedem | among many other things | 22:22 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: that -005 one is dropping the full online migration of flavors from being key=value pairs in system metadata to json blobs in instance_extra, with extra_specs merged in from the proper flavor | 22:22 |
| anteaya | mriedem: ah okay, sorry my mistake | 22:22 |
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| anteaya | mriedem: well so it appears that neutron has at least one thing they would like to discuss at the mid-cycle | 22:22 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: a much larger and more complicated dance than ndipanov is doing by moving one thing out of a metadata blob into a proper field, and we held that compatibility code for one cycle | 22:22 |
| anteaya | mriedem: I've told armax if he has more items to add them | 22:22 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: well, I stand corrected. apologies. | 22:23 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: I'd like to be dropping more cruft from more objects, but I'm pretty much the only one that works on those, and things have been a little busy this cycle, as I'm sure you can appreciate :) | 22:24 |
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| jaypipes | dansmith: I do appreciate that. do we have a list of them that can be deprecated or is it up to individuals to grep-fu it? | 22:24 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: rlrossit is dropping dict cruft from objects as we speak | 22:24 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: I could make up a list based on the length of obj_make_compatible() in each object | 22:25 |
| rlrossit | dansmith: hey! I work on them too! | 22:25 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: some have a bunch of changes, but they aren't changes that cost us anything (i.e. new methods) | 22:25 |
| jaypipes | k | 22:25 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: hence me showering you with glory just a few lines above! :) | 22:25 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: would be great to get an etherpad to track what needs to be cleaned up and divvy up the work. | 22:25 |
| dansmith | sure | 22:26 |
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| dims | dansmith : fyi, Add a grenade job for testing oslo.versionedobjects https://review.openstack.org/264992 | 22:30 |
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| dims | dansmith : mriedem : based on our conversations yesterday | 22:30 |
| dansmith | dims: okay, we really need that to be the grenade multinode job | 22:31 |
| dims | dansmith : ack. let me switch | 22:31 |
| dansmith | dims: I mean, probably worth having this too I guess, but the multinode one is how we'll detect if we broke something on the wire | 22:31 |
| dansmith | dims: thanks for doing that | 22:31 |
| mriedem | dims: you want it to be non-voting? | 22:31 |
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| dansmith | I thought this was going to be "check experimental" type stuff | 22:32 |
| dims | dansmith : voting false | 22:32 |
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| dims | dansmith : runs only for o.vo project, not nova, we don't have that much churn | 22:33 |
| mriedem | and it's only check queue | 22:33 |
| dansmith | okay cool | 22:33 |
| dims | mriedem : y | 22:33 |
| mriedem | so check non-voting | 22:33 |
| mriedem | why not gating and voting? | 22:33 |
| dansmith | non-voting is better, I just thought maybe not because it's super expensive | 22:33 |
| dansmith | (better than experimental) | 22:33 |
| dims | dansmith : y, if it was for nova | 22:34 |
| mriedem | i guess i don't understand | 22:34 |
| mriedem | if you're going to run it anyway, and it's working, | 22:34 |
| mriedem | it might as well be voting | 22:34 |
| mriedem | throwing it in the experimental queue makes it less expensive since it's on-demand, but then people forget to run it | 22:35 |
| dims | mriedem : we are using it for oslo.messaging as non-voting for a while | 22:35 |
| mriedem | so this just copies that | 22:35 |
| dims | y | 22:35 |
| mriedem | is it passing in oslo.messaging? | 22:35 |
| dansmith | it can be voting in check if we want, I think that's probably fine | 22:35 |
| dims | some hiccups off and on. don't want it voting | 22:36 |
| dansmith | I mean it can be voting in gate too, I just didn't think it was .. yeah ^ | 22:36 |
| mriedem | whateves | 22:36 |
| mriedem | ignore the peanut gallery | 22:36 |
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| dansmith | I'm also terrified of the love pentagon of testing that we're about to unleash, | 22:36 |
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| dansmith | which means more things gated leads to more squashed hail-mary patch fixes | 22:36 |
| dansmith | especially on something like o.vo I think | 22:37 |
| dims | dansmith : like sdague said, too much then we can't land anything | 22:37 |
| dansmith | right | 22:37 |
| mriedem | too much running or too much voting? | 22:37 |
| dansmith | voting | 22:37 |
| mriedem | b/c this makes it still running | 22:37 |
| mriedem | ok | 22:37 |
| mriedem | making a job non-voting is easy if it's busted/blocked | 22:37 |
| dansmith | come on I get nothing for "love pentagon" ? | 22:37 |
| mriedem | i smiled | 22:38 |
| dansmith | hah | 22:38 |
| mriedem | makes me think of something something dick cheney | 22:38 |
| mriedem | halliburton + dick cheney + NSA + pentagon + multinode job | 22:38 |
| mriedem | = kaboom | 22:38 |
| dansmith | hmm. | 22:39 |
| dims | lol | 22:39 |
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| dansmith | not the pentagonal relationship I was alluding to | 22:39 |
| mriedem | satan?! | 22:39 |
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| dansmith | although similarly incestuous | 22:39 |
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| dims | dansmith : do you want to figure out which pieces of code from o.vo master needs to be in stable/liberty branch? | 22:44 |
| dansmith | dims: well, I tested against nova's stable unit tests for 0.9 and 0.10 and both are fine, now that we backported the removal of that test | 22:44 |
| dims | dansmith : we could cut a release and get it ready for use | 22:44 |
| dansmith | dims: so I _think_ that we're probably okay to roll back, but I wanted to see those test runs to be sure | 22:44 |
| dims | dansmith : ah ok | 22:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Rossiter proposed openstack/nova: Remove NovaObjectDictCompat from Aggregate https://review.openstack.org/264397 | 22:45 |
| rlrossit | come on tempest, show me some love | 22:45 |
| mriedem | rlrossit: question in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264987/ | 22:47 |
| rlrossit | there goes mriedem ruining the party again | 22:47 |
| rlrossit | dansmith: mriedem raises a good point in his question | 22:49 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: not possible | 22:49 |
| rlrossit | so instead of setting it to None, I could just not set it, and the property will return it as none | 22:49 |
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| mriedem | i have to head out anyway, i might just be missing something obvious | 22:51 |
| dansmith | I just commented | 22:52 |
| dansmith | it's really just a holdover from the dict days where we had a .get() and checked for none to do the default | 22:52 |
| dansmith | it was for checking the "not specified" case, not the "is actually set to None" case | 22:52 |
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| rlrossit | dansmith: but does leaving the none test in affect how https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264397/2/nova/api/openstack/compute/aggregates.py will work? | 22:53 |
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| rlrossit | (not affect how it works, but at least how it's tested) | 22:54 |
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| dansmith | rlrossit: you could fix the tests to use an object with no az in the metadata | 22:55 |
| rlrossit | I'm going to -W my removal change for now, and change over the tests to not have metadata in my other change | 22:56 |
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| dansmith | I dunno, I'm conflicted | 22:57 |
| dansmith | actually, let me comment on there again | 22:58 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: was bauzas saying that doing this create and specifying None was actually allowed? | 22:58 |
| dansmith | nm, foudn it | 22:59 |
| rlrossit | passing None to the API is allowed, but I think it doesn't set metadata then? | 22:59 |
| dansmith | right | 23:00 |
| dansmith | which this doesn't test anyway | 23:00 |
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| rlrossit | dansmith: the one thing I did find though is if you don't set metadata, and then try to access the az prop, it will blow up because metadata isn't loaded | 23:01 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: where is the None actually ignored? I thought it was in compute_api, which is mocked out here? | 23:01 |
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| dansmith | yeah, it is | 23:02 |
| dansmith | which means this test, even if fixed, is not testing anything | 23:02 |
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| rlrossit | dansmith: yeah, the None is ignored in the compute_api | 23:02 |
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| rlrossit | but None being ignored by the API, followed by an AZ access results in None | 23:03 |
| dansmith | the compute_api just passes what it got (if anything) for az to compute_api, which does the actual test | 23:04 |
| dansmith | this is mocking the ignoring behavior out | 23:04 |
| dansmith | which means it's not testing anything real, IMHO | 23:04 |
| rlrossit | dansmith: to be fair, most of these tests are mocking, like, all functionality out | 23:05 |
| dansmith | rlrossit: yeah, I know.. tons of useless in there | 23:05 |
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| rlrossit | dansmith: I'm just going to leave this until tomorrow... it's time to go home | 23:05 |
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| dansmith | as you wish :) | 23:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eoghan Glynn proposed openstack/nova: doc: corrections to the server concepts docco https://review.openstack.org/264839 | 23:06 |
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