Thursday, 2015-12-17

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sdagueauggy: if you want to respin, that would be great00:32
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auggysdague: alrighty then00:39
* auggy has been doing alittle branch cleanup ;)00:39
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: test  https://review.openstack.org/25873700:42
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sdaguethat follow up button is super interesting00:42
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auggysdague: i think we also need to do a reno release notes thing, which i'm working on00:52
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openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova: Remove the old object_compat wrapper.  https://review.openstack.org/25768601:01
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Expose quiesce/unquiesce API  https://review.openstack.org/24898901:13
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Split-network-plane-for-live-migration  https://review.openstack.org/24500501:16
openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Check 'destination_type' instead of 'source_type' in _check_and_transform_bdm  https://review.openstack.org/25283601:17
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Add instance.save() when handling reboot in init instance  https://review.openstack.org/25769201:19
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tangchenHi alex_xu, would you please help to take a look at this patch ?  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202605/02:25
tangchenthanks.02:25
alex_xutangchen: yeh, will try today02:26
tangchenoomichi: Hi, oomichi-san, thank you for reviewing the patch. And please also help to review another one, they are similar. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234691/  Thx.02:26
tangchenalex_xu: Thx.02:26
alex_xutangchen: np02:26
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oomichitangchen: I am waiting for base patch merger now02:33
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tangchenoomichi: I'm sorry, by base patch, do you mean this ?  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202605/02:35
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oomichitangchen: yeah, that is02:47
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tangchenoomichi: Sure. Thx. :)02:54
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openstackgerrityuntongjin proposed openstack/nova: Add API /servers/migrations:index/show  https://review.openstack.org/25877103:10
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Add some validations for BDM  https://review.openstack.org/25878804:02
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Add some validations for BDM  https://review.openstack.org/25878804:11
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openstackgerritArtom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: vNIC tagging  https://review.openstack.org/23490404:17
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vincent_houalex_xu: Hi dude. Do you know how the yaml under releasenotes folder is generated?04:18
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Ensure consistency of ENV_REQUEST_ID  https://review.openstack.org/25452904:24
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auggyvincent_hou: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/reno/usage.html#creating-new-release-notes04:30
vincent_houauggy: Thx.04:31
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auggyvincent_hou: np :)04:31
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alex_xuvincent_hou: yeh, just as auggy pointed04:46
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openstackgerrityuntongjin proposed openstack/nova: Add migration progress detail in DB  https://review.openstack.org/25879704:49
vincent_houalex_xu: yep04:49
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Add wrapper classes for return-request-id-to-caller  https://review.openstack.org/25880205:08
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TheloHi All, I made a change in os_brick and nova. How can I run the nova unit test ( tox -v -epy27) and take the change into the library into account? Besides, If I want to commit both, should I wait for the part in os_brick to be accepted?05:38
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openstackgerrityuntongjin proposed openstack/nova: write live migration progress detail to DB in migration monitor  https://review.openstack.org/25881306:09
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/25219706:11
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Add support for API microversion 2.13  https://review.openstack.org/25770306:25
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openstackgerrithuan proposed openstack/nova: XenAPI: Fix VIF plug and unplug problem  https://review.openstack.org/25402206:37
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tangchenHi, oomichi, alex_xu, I'm sorry the old problem again. Shall we agree on the instance action name, using triggerCrashDump or trigger_crash_dump ?06:55
tangchenoomichi, alex_xu: I personally prefer  trigger_crash_dump  because it is the same with API name.06:55
openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: virt: Allow multiple volume attachments  https://review.openstack.org/19313506:55
openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: comp: Allow multiple volume attachments  https://review.openstack.org/19313406:55
openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: obj: Allow multiple volume attachments  https://review.openstack.org/19313306:55
openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: db: Allow multiple volume attachments  https://review.openstack.org/15303306:55
openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: WIP: REST API changes to support multi-attach  https://review.openstack.org/15303806:56
alex_xutangchen: emm...I remember we said use 'trigger_crash_dump' last time06:56
openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: virt: Pass host when call attach to Cinder  https://review.openstack.org/25627306:56
tangchenalex_xu: But oomichi gave me a -1 when I did so. So maybe we should make a clear decision again.06:56
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tangchenoomichi: Hi, oomichi-san, are you around ?06:57
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alex_xutangchen: oops, maybe we mis-understand oomichi last time06:57
oomichitangchen: alex_xu: hello06:57
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tangchenHi oomichi-san, I'm sorry maybe we should discuss about the instance action naming style once again.06:58
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oomichitangchen: no problem, will catch the discussion06:58
tangchenoomichi, alex_xu: Alex and I would prefer the name to be  trigger_crash_dump so that it is the same with the API name.06:58
alex_xuyup06:59
alex_xuthat sounds good chocie for consistent06:59
tangchenoomichi, alex_xu: And from now on, I think new actions should be named in this style. Maybe also add comment into the source file.07:00
alex_xutangchen: if we have agreement on that, the comment is really a good idea07:00
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TheloHi All, I made a change in os_brick and nova. How can I run the nova unit test ( tox -v -epy27) and take the change into the library into account? Besides, If I want to commit both, should I wait for the part in os_brick to be accepted?07:01
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oomichitangchen: alex_xu: action name in instance_actions.py are used in the recode only, not REST API layer, right?07:01
oomichis/recode/record/07:02
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alex_xuoomichi: we can get that from the api https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/doc/api_samples/os-instance-actions/instance-action-get-resp.json#L307:02
oomichialex_xu: ah, I misunderstood the point. yeah, it is nice to make names consistent as possible07:03
oomichialex_xu: to REST API07:04
alex_xuoomichi: cool, thanks07:04
oomichitangchen: sorry about my mess07:04
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alex_xutangchen: appreciate if you can add coment to say we use same naming style as rest api in the code07:04
oomichitangchen: alex_xu: trigger_crash_dump is the best on instance_actions.py, right?07:05
alex_xus/coment/comment/07:05
alex_xuoomichi: yup07:05
tangchenoomichi, alex_xu: Sure, then I'll rename it to trigger_crash_dump.07:06
tangchenoomichi, alex_xu: Thank you for your patient. :)07:06
alex_xutangchen: thank you for update also :)07:06
tangchenalex_xu: And BTW, the mox in the test file, the name mox is used everywhere...07:07
tangchenalex_xu: If we use mock instead, I need to send another patch to change them all, I think.07:07
tangchenalex_xu: do you mean that ?07:07
alex_xutangchen: no, not for the name, it is for we should mock object like this https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/unit/compute/test_compute_api.py#L149507:09
alex_xutangchen: you just need use mock in your new unittest, you needn't change other all07:09
alex_xutangchen: we said we will use mock instead of mox in the new unittest07:09
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alex_xutangchen: sorry, I have to go, but will be back after hour. let me know if you still have trouble with that.07:11
tangchenalex_xu: One sec for me to see that.07:11
tangchenalex_xu: Thx. :)07:11
alex_xutangchen: np07:12
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openstackgerrityuntongjin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Add nova client server-migration-list and server-migration-show  https://review.openstack.org/25884107:14
openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise floating ip options  https://review.openstack.org/25708707:23
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oomichibauzas: morning07:33
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openstackgerritTomoki Sekiyama proposed openstack/nova: Fix multipath iSCSI encrypted volume attach failure  https://review.openstack.org/19648207:51
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bauzasgood morning Nova08:36
bauzasoomichi: morning08:36
oomichibauzas: morning08:37
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oomichibauzas: do you know filters "same_host" and "different_host" are enabled on the gate, or not?08:37
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bauzasoomichi: nope, they aren't AFAIK08:38
oomichibauzas: I am adding the corresponding test to Tempest, but the filters dont work08:38
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bauzasoomichi: you can check if SameHostFilter and DifferentHostFilter are in the nova.conf for the gate08:38
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markus_zThe gate failure rates had a big increase 3 hours ago. Does anyone already know more?08:39
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bauzasoomichi: tbh, I'd like to find a newcomer for helping us to have functional tests for the filters...08:39
markus_zhttp://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/tempest-failure-rate08:39
oomichibauzas: these filters should be on scheduler_default_filters ?08:39
bauzasoomichi: no, they aren't but lemme doublecheck08:39
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oomichibauzas: the tempest patch is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257660/08:40
bauzasoomichi: they aren't https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conf/scheduler.py#L56-L6708:40
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oomichibauzas: thanks so much!!08:41
oomichibauzas: I will post a patch for devstack for enabling them08:41
oomichibauzas: just for the development08:41
openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/nova: Live migration: wait for vif-plugged event on pre live migration  https://review.openstack.org/24691008:42
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openstackgerritwanghao proposed openstack/nova: Fix invalid Image&block device mapping combination  https://review.openstack.org/17198408:45
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oomichibauzas: one more question, is it acceptable to change https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conf/scheduler.py#L56-L67 directly instead of devstack change?08:49
oomichibauzas: I guess no, because of default config change. right?08:49
bauzasoomichi: that's something we should discuss08:50
bauzasbut given SameHost and DifferentHost are a bit legacy because of the server groups, I dunno08:50
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bauzasI know that some deployers use them tho08:51
oomichibauzas: yeah, and some deployers don't use. so if depending on the default config, something happens08:51
bauzasyup08:52
bauzasoomichi: that's why I'd like to functionally test all the filters and hints08:52
oomichibauzas: without tempest?08:52
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openstackgerritMichal Pryc proposed openstack/nova: Implements proper UUID format for test_compute_cells and test_compute_utils.  https://review.openstack.org/25887808:53
oomichijohnthetubaguy: hello08:54
oomichijohnthetubaguy: I have a question about how to change default filters.08:55
oomichijohnthetubaguy: can we add SameHostFilter and DifferentHostFilter to https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conf/scheduler.py#L56-L67 ?08:55
oomichijohnthetubaguy: or should we change devstack for avoiding the default filter change on nova?08:55
bauzasoomichi: yup, I don't feel we need a full scenario like Tempest does08:56
bauzasoomichi: and I'd prefer that in-tree08:56
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oomichibauzas: we can verify scheduler_hint works or not by actual openstack by Temepst08:57
oomichibauzas: on the tempest test, we check the actual node of server which is created with scheduler_hint.08:57
bauzasoomichi: I guess you won't be able to attend the midcycle?08:57
bauzasoomichi: because that's something we could discuss there08:57
bauzasoomichi: I see08:58
oomichibauzas: I cannot attend unfortunately.08:58
bauzasoomichi: well, it's an open point, I'm open to comments :)08:58
oomichibauzas: because I will move to US next week.08:58
bauzasoomichi: no worries, I just feel we should somehow do that sooner or later08:58
bauzasoomichi: hah no worries08:59
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openstackgerritMichal Pryc proposed openstack/nova: Implements proper UUID format for test_compute_cells and test_compute_utils.  https://review.openstack.org/25887808:59
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oomichibauzas: I posted https://review.openstack.org/258882 on devstack09:02
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bauzasoomichi: I wonder if I wouldn't make sense to enable the flags for the specific Tempest builds?09:03
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openstackgerrithuan proposed openstack/nova: XenAPI:Resolve Nova/Neutron race condition  https://review.openstack.org/24112709:05
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Add support for API microversion 2.13  https://review.openstack.org/25770309:08
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openstackgerritRui Chen proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Fix Resource.__eq__ mismatch semantics of object equal  https://review.openstack.org/25102009:09
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oomichibauzas: IIUC, devstack is for development/test and that is reason why devstack is under QA project09:22
openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Add support for API microversion 2.13  https://review.openstack.org/25770309:22
oomichibauzas: so it is fine to change devstack for general tempest, not specific09:22
openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Add support for API microversion 2.13  https://review.openstack.org/25770309:24
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section: "keymgr"  https://review.openstack.org/25504409:27
openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section "keymgr"  https://review.openstack.org/25889309:27
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova: Do not update links for 'versions' tests  https://review.openstack.org/25721009:30
openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: centeralized conf:compute/emphemeral_storage_encryption  https://review.openstack.org/25717609:31
openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova: Allow to update 'v2.1' links in sample files  https://review.openstack.org/25766909:31
openstackgerritJianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova: xenapi: OVS agent updates the wrong port when using XenServer + Neutron  https://review.openstack.org/24284609:32
gmannalex_xu: johnthetubaguy : rebased for conflict. need +A - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257210/3  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257669/209:32
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openstackgerritKen'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Prototype: get-valid-server-state  https://review.openstack.org/25889809:34
openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Add checks for volume status when rebuilding  https://review.openstack.org/21756709:34
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openstackgerritNan Zhang proposed openstack/nova: live-migration: Update instance availability_zone  https://review.openstack.org/25404109:50
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TheloHi All, I made a change in os_brick and nova. How can I run the nova unit test ( tox -v -epy27) and take the change into the library into account? Besides, If I want to commit both, should I wait for the part in os_brick to be accepted?09:56
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.hardware' options  https://review.openstack.org/25634410:00
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.firewall' options  https://review.openstack.org/25799510:00
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.netutils' options  https://review.openstack.org/25800910:00
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Improve 'virt' conf options documentation  https://review.openstack.org/25636810:00
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.images' options  https://review.openstack.org/25800410:00
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.driver' options  https://review.openstack.org/25795610:00
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.disk' options  https://review.openstack.org/25891210:00
johnthetubaguyoomichi: honestly, it is tempting just to add them into the default list. This is to test affinity I guess?10:00
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johnthetubaguyoomichi: wow, moving to the US! thats a big move!10:00
* johnthetubaguy is back from his training course10:01
* johnthetubaguy hopes the review day is going well for everyone!10:01
bauzasoomichi: oh, you mean relocating ?10:02
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johnthetubaguygmann: +A10:03
gmannjohnthetubaguy: Thanks.10:03
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migisdague, dansmith, I've addeed you as reviewers for my little changes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258878 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25853010:04
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migisdague, dansmith, this is required for my next rev which goes to bigger modules, but prefer to get those first10:04
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* johnthetubaguy just found the setting to show intra line differences in the new gerrit, whoop, whoop10:05
bauzashopefully, the Gerrit review UI didn't really change from the previous "new UI"10:06
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sfinucanbauzas: I was hoping the opposite :) The new UI is one of the worst web UIs I've ever laid eyes on10:07
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I guess we can use https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-priorities-tracking for the review day (L12) ?10:07
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johnthetubaguybauzas: yup, sent a note on the ML10:07
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise PCI options  https://review.openstack.org/25373210:09
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Improve 'pci' conf options documentation  https://review.openstack.org/24333510:09
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openstackgerritMichal Dubiel proposed openstack/nova: libvirt, vhostuser: Add support for OpenContrail vRouter  https://review.openstack.org/24165210:11
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gibihi! happy review day! I know that this is younger than 50 days but in the other hand it has a +2 already https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243562/ , so if you have time... :)10:14
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gibialso the versioned notification work has 3 patches ready for review as the subteam already reviewed them https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247024/10:15
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tojuvoneoomichi: Are you around?10:18
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openstackgerritMaxim Nestratov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: virtuozzo instance resize support  https://review.openstack.org/18225710:52
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openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: enhance method to return pointer_model from image prop  https://review.openstack.org/17485410:58
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: deprecate use_usb_tablet in favor of pointer_model  https://review.openstack.org/17624210:58
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce freeze filesystems  https://review.openstack.org/24914010:59
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: check graphic/serial consoles at pre_live_migration step  https://review.openstack.org/25470910:59
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce thaw filesystems  https://review.openstack.org/24914110:59
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: replace direct libvirt's call AbortJobBlock  https://review.openstack.org/24913810:59
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: return a root block device  https://review.openstack.org/24913910:59
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce "snapshot" to Guest's object  https://review.openstack.org/24935310:59
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce block_stats to return device stats  https://review.openstack.org/25128810:59
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce "pause" to Guest's object  https://review.openstack.org/24983410:59
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: wrapper list_guests to Host's object  https://review.openstack.org/24983510:59
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce "shutdown" to Guest's object  https://review.openstack.org/24983310:59
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce exceptions handler  https://review.openstack.org/25799110:59
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce get_job_info to Guest's object  https://review.openstack.org/25074010:59
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: configure migrate max downtime  https://review.openstack.org/25073910:59
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce "abort_job" to Guest's object  https://review.openstack.org/25073810:59
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce "migrate" to Guest's object  https://review.openstack.org/25036511:00
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openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add policy check to avoid using qga in realtime context  https://review.openstack.org/24758511:01
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: conductor: fix unbound local variable request_spec  https://review.openstack.org/25734411:01
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: conductor: initialize request_spec to handle expected exception  https://review.openstack.org/25801111:01
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add realtime support  https://review.openstack.org/19756911:01
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openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: verify cpu bw policy capability for host  https://review.openstack.org/22472611:02
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openstackgerritsonu proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Removes MANIFEST.in as it is not needed explicitely by PBR  https://review.openstack.org/25895311:05
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pkoniszewskihey, I have one question - when I'm adding new API to v2.1 do I also need to add this API to v2? It is completely new resource (new controller)11:11
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johnthetubaguypkoniszewski: we are not allowed to add anything to v2.0 any more11:12
pkoniszewskigreat to hear that11:12
johnthetubaguypkoniszewski: v2.0 API is fronzen now11:12
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pkoniszewskihowever, when I'm making this new API in v2.1 discoverable a v2 test fails (test_list_extensions(v2)) because there is a new item in extensions list :S11:14
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* PaulMurray opens a review, takes in new view, closes eyes and smacks forehead on desk while crying "why, why, why......."11:15
andrearosalol11:16
alex_xupkoniszewski: you can do something like this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128940/95/nova/api/openstack/compute/extension_info.py11:16
pkoniszewskialex_xu: that should solve my problem! thanks a lot! :)11:17
alex_xupkoniszewski: np11:17
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openstackgerritTang Chen proposed openstack/nova: Add a compute API to trigger crash dump in instance.  https://review.openstack.org/20260511:23
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artomndipanov, danpb, you think as part of the non-priority review day you can sneak a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234904/ (vNIC tagging)? It's not ready to be merged yet as test coverage is anywhere between pathetic and non-existent, but the functionality is essentially all there and I'd like feedback that my approach isn't insane :)11:32
artom^^ applies to anyone else participating in the review day as well :)11:32
ndipanovartom will do !11:34
artomndipanov, thanks :)11:34
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Return empty object list instead []  https://review.openstack.org/25896211:37
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johnthetubaguypkoniszewski: you will need to hide that extension from the v2.0 compatibility mode, that test is erroring out correctly11:39
johnthetubaguypkoniszewski: generally we should not be adding an extensions, as such, thats now covered by the API version11:39
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johnthetubaguypkoniszewski: ah, alex_xu pointed you there, cool11:39
pkoniszewskigot it, alex_xu suggested how to solve that few lines above11:39
pkoniszewski:)11:40
johnthetubaguyPaulMurray: more features are always good right? ;)11:40
cdentfeatures--11:40
PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy, I'm just starting to get the hang of it11:41
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PaulMurrayI like the list of related changes etc.11:41
PaulMurraytook a while to realise they were the series and which order (up or down)11:42
pkoniszewskithe list of conflicting patches is a great addition!11:42
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PaulMurraydon't like hte fact I have to scroll down past the gate jobs11:42
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openstackgerritMaxim Nestratov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: virtuozzo instance resize support  https://review.openstack.org/18225711:46
openstackgerritRafael Folco proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: check min required qemu/kvm versions on ppc64/ppc64le  https://review.openstack.org/22655511:48
markus_z@all: in case you experience an issue with the check queue http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/082576.html11:48
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openstackgerritPawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: Add way to pause VM during live migration  https://review.openstack.org/24592111:52
openstackgerritPawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: Add new DB API method to retrieve migration for instance  https://review.openstack.org/25727011:52
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moshelejohnthetubaguy: hi12:10
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johnthetubaguymoshele: hi12:11
moshelejohnthetubaguy: we want to add another Job for mellanox CI to test macvtap  see http://144.76.193.39/ci-artifacts/Nova-MACVTAP-ML2-Sriov_2/12:12
moshelejohnthetubaguy do we need nova core approval12:12
johnthetubaguymoshele: can't you test both macvtap and the other mode, in a single CI, using using alternative flavors?12:13
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johnthetubaguymoshele: for commenting, I didn't think you needed core approval, but I could be wrong12:19
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moshelejohnthetubaguy12:21
moshele It a bit complicate to do it in one CI, I prefer to split it to 2 jobs12:21
moshelejohnthetubaguy: who would know?12:21
johnthetubaguymoshele: infra, I guess, what do you need from us? some vote on a permission request patch?12:22
johnthetubaguymoshele: live-migrate job we are creating is testing all ceph, nfs, and local storage in one job. it feels like a good partern to fix, a single vote from "mellanox" stuff would be much easier longterm12:23
moshelejohnthetubaguy: I think to review that the logs are according to your  requirements12:23
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moshelejohnthetubaguy: ok I will see if we can do that12:23
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openstackgerritSergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Use is_supported() to check microversion  https://review.openstack.org/24911612:27
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.firewall' options  https://review.openstack.org/25799512:41
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.netutils' options  https://review.openstack.org/25800912:41
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.images' options  https://review.openstack.org/25800412:41
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.disk' options  https://review.openstack.org/25891212:41
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.imagecache' options  https://review.openstack.org/25898412:41
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Allow command line for virtual-interface-list  https://review.openstack.org/25470712:42
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Add support for API microversion 2.13  https://review.openstack.org/25770312:43
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alexschmjohnthetubaguy: kaisers and me were wondering why the native AIO mode blueprint was not included in your review list12:52
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alexschmjohnthetubaguy: is it because the change sets are not older than 50 days?12:52
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alexschmjohnthetubaguy: for reference, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-aio-mode12:53
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johnthetubaguyalexschm: basically, yes13:04
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johnthetubaguyalexschm: we have things up for review that are still waiting from last release, so I feel we should look at those first13:05
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alexschmjohnthetubaguy: ok I see, thank you13:06
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sdaguePaulMurray: for this whole stack - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254115/ what's the in flight story?13:14
sdagueI guess I'm trying to understand how we can make that change and not break things in the middle13:14
openstackgerritBob Ball proposed openstack/nova: XenAPI: Fix race in rotate_xen_guest_logs  https://review.openstack.org/24589813:16
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openstackgerrithuan proposed openstack/nova: XenAPI: Support neutron security group  https://review.openstack.org/25127113:20
Thelo_Hi all, if i do two changes. One in os_brick the other one in nova, how can i run nova`s unit testsothat13:20
Thelo_It takesmy change in os brick into account?13:21
PaulMurraysdague, before we had a compute node object supported_instance was passed around as a json string value in the compute node dict13:21
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PaulMurraysdague, that was generated by the virt drivers13:21
Thelo_Also, to commit sgould i wait for the change in os bricj to be accepted?13:21
PaulMurraynow there is a compute node object it is held as a data structure in the object13:22
PaulMurrayso the values returned by the virt drivers are immediately decoded before adding to the compute node object field13:22
sdagueso the compute node object auto converts if it's in either format? which is why it's safe to change one at atime?13:22
sdagueok13:22
PaulMurraythat's right - the last step gets rid of the auto conversion13:23
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PaulMurraystats is done in one step because only ironic provides a value13:23
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.hardware' options  https://review.openstack.org/25634413:23
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.firewall' options  https://review.openstack.org/25799513:23
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.netutils' options  https://review.openstack.org/25800913:23
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Improve 'virt' conf options documentation  https://review.openstack.org/25636813:23
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.imagecache' options  https://review.openstack.org/25898413:23
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.images' options  https://review.openstack.org/25800413:23
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.disk' options  https://review.openstack.org/25891213:23
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.driver' options  https://review.openstack.org/25795613:23
dane-fichterThelo_: you'd likely have to wait for a new release of os-brick which includes your change, and then update Nova's requirements in your change in Nova13:24
PaulMurraysdague, FWI - I was going to do it all in one patch, but the libvirt one gave me trouble so I split them out to make it easier to figure out why13:24
sdagueyeh, that's fine13:24
sdagueI just ran through the stack and +2ed it, seems pretty straight forward after the explanation13:25
Thelo_dane-fitcher: thanks13:25
PaulMurraysdague, thanks13:25
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Thelo_dane-fitcher: how do i update nova`s requirements? Iam not sure of what you mean.13:27
dane-fichterThelo_: no problem. I bet there's a way around that locally, but in order to propose a change, that's what you'll have to do13:27
dane-fichterThelo_: you change the version number in requirements.txt to be the correct version of os-brick13:28
Thelo_Ok13:28
Thelo_Okthanks13:28
dane-fichterThelo_: glad I could help13:28
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sdaguedanpb: is this right - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243117/2/nova/tests/unit/virt/libvirt/test_host.py (small libvirt unit test fix)13:33
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danpbsdague: yes, that test case is supposed to be exercising  has_version, the test case prior does has_min_version13:36
danpblooks like just copy+paste mistake13:36
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sdaguecool, thanks13:40
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openstackgerritRyan Moore proposed openstack/nova: Add better help to rdp options  https://review.openstack.org/25355613:44
openstackgerritRyan Moore proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section: "rdp"  https://review.openstack.org/25238913:44
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sdaguebauzas: are you ok with this now - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180155/20 - it's reordering the default fitlers, but the new order does seem to be more sensible13:45
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PaulMurraysdague, bauzas not sure about that one ^^13:47
sdaguePaulMurray: ok, what are your concerns with the order change?13:48
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PaulMurraysdague, it really depends on what you have, but if you have AZs the AZ filter will always reduce number of hosts by 1/n where n is number of AZ13:49
PaulMurrayWould we expect to see multiple AZ in a default setup?13:49
PaulMurrayif no then it makes sense13:49
edleafePaulMurray: and would the number of hosts per AZ be roughly equal?13:49
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.ironic' options  https://review.openstack.org/25901413:50
PaulMurrayedleafe, compute filter removes disabled hosts - would you expect to have a large number of disabled hosts ?13:50
PaulMurrayedleafe, but to answer your question, generally they are roughly equal13:51
sdaguePaulMurray: so... just after the AZ filter would be better?13:51
sdagueit still seems like getting it ahead for Ram / Disk makes sense13:51
edleafePaulMurray: just wondering if people treat AZs like host aggs13:51
PaulMurrayedleafe, we had 3 AZ per region - for reliability purposes13:52
PaulMurrayedleafe, generally you would see the same types of thing in each13:52
sdagueI'm going to assume any reasonably large deploy is going to need to tune things, so we don't need to be perfect here, however compute filter coming after ram filter seems weird13:52
edleafesdague: but the compute filter doesn't come after the ram filter now13:53
cdent+1 to sdague13:53
PaulMurraysdague, generally the more things it will knock out the higher in the order13:53
edleafeyou just swapped AZ and compute filters13:53
sdagueedleafe: ummm, in the baremetal case13:53
sdaguenot in the base case13:54
edleafedoh!13:54
johnthetubaguySo if you cloud is normally full, RAM filter first makes sense, even if its not logical13:54
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: because the cost of loading every filter is the same?13:54
johnthetubaguywell, you normally have more full hosts than dead hosts13:54
edleafesdague: yeah, that part seems more reasonable13:54
johnthetubaguysdague: because you want the filter that removes the most hosts first, so the later filters loop through less hosts, assuming equal cost of running every filter (which I think is basically true now)13:55
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: ok, that was the question, I didn't realize that compute filter was as costly as ram filter13:55
sdaguealso, I kind of hate the filter model :)13:56
johnthetubaguywell, no filters do any DB queries, so you probably just want to reduce that down13:56
edleafeyeah, the filters don't hit the db anymore13:56
edleafenormally13:56
johnthetubaguysdague: so did some up with a slightly different approach, but it drops the weighters actually: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256323/13:57
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sdagueyeh, it still seems weird to me that we don't load this up into a numpy datastructure and do the compares there all at once13:58
PaulMurraysdague, I know, why don't you start a new scheduler :)13:58
sdaguebecause I suspect that would fundamentally alter the performance for good here13:58
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Move config options from nova/api directory  https://review.openstack.org/25818013:58
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Move nova/opts.py to nova/conf/  https://review.openstack.org/25543613:58
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sdaguePaulMurray: :)13:58
edleafesdague: that's just one of many proposed improvements :)13:59
sdagueedleafe: ok, anyone actually hacking on that bit yet?13:59
johnthetubaguysdague: possibly, honestly that bit of the scheduler is crazy fast, compared to the RPC call, when I last checked13:59
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: ok13:59
edleafesdague: yeah, there are several out there - one was presented at the summit13:59
sdagueedleafe: is it in gerrit?14:00
johnthetubaguysdague: I have proposed this scheduler: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256323/ but its all about the fact the scheduler is almost unsable in its current form, its so hard to configure14:00
PaulMurraysdague, in our experience anything that makes a big difference is worth paying attention to - everything else is noise14:00
edleafesdague: hell no!14:00
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edleafesdague: they are largely single-company efforts. IBM has its own custom scheduler too14:01
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PaulMurraysdague, to be honest if this makes a difference to anyone they would be setting these values themselves14:01
sdaguePaulMurray: yeh, ok14:02
sdagueok, so the documentation part of that patch is something we should land14:02
johnthetubaguyFYI, I did upstream the one rackspace uses currently: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/caching_scheduler.py14:02
sdaguewhich is the config set of values that we can agree on (personally I'm happy with anything)14:02
edleafesdague: until the scheduler is independent (if ever), adding an incompatible scheduler is a non-starter.14:02
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cdentsdague: a numpy-based complex vector linear algebra driven scheduler is on my wish list14:03
sdagueedleafe: it really wouldn't have to be incompatible, it would just be how you were doing the for looping for the filters14:03
cdenttensor-scheduler14:03
sdaguebut if what johnthetubaguy is saying is true, then it's sort of irrelevant most of the time, as the rpc is really the cost14:03
sdaguebut, back to the patch14:03
sdaguehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/180155/20/nova/conf/scheduler.py - are the current defaults fine? and we just change that part and land the docs?14:04
johnthetubaguysdague: so I am thinking about when you use the caching_scheduler, at least thats what I remember seeing when I last dug into that, it works at the scale we need (peak of a couple of hundred builds per cell, per min)14:05
johnthetubaguybut yeah, I should stop distracting14:06
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johnthetubaguyI am trying to get through all these old blueprints for the review day today14:06
sdaguegotcha14:06
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sdaguefyi, played around with some new options in gerrit v2.11 for a compute review dashboard - https://goo.gl/7JpSFl14:08
sdaguewe now can label:Code-Review<=-1,nova-core14:09
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sdagueand delta:<=10 (to show small patches)14:09
johnthetubaguyawesomeness14:09
openstackgerritLudovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Allow saving empty pci_device_pools in ComputeNode object  https://review.openstack.org/21604914:10
danpbdid they enable the arbitrary tagging extension in the end or not ?14:10
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sdaguedanpb: no, it's not doable without the notedb implementation, which is not yet finished14:18
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sdagueso, if anyone wants to look at this patch series to allow glance to exist on a suburl in your cloud - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254213/ (and up). It's pretty straight forward to review. And will let some of the API to real webserver work continue.14:20
sahiddanpb: , any chance to re-get your ack on thoce r14:21
sahidreviews14:21
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sahidhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/224726/14:21
sahidand this serie https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257344/14:21
sahid(already acked)14:21
openstackgerritLudovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Support configuration of multiple pci_alias within an array  https://review.openstack.org/24255514:25
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andrearosaworkflow question: I have a nova fix which is blocked by a Cinder bug (no fix proposed for the bug yet), shall I abandon my change with a note or mark it as WIP, or it doesn't matter?14:30
openstackgerritAndrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Cleanup needless code from oslo-incubator  https://review.openstack.org/25904414:31
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snikitinandrearosa: I think you should mark it as WIP14:33
dansmithagree14:33
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andrearosasnikitin: dansmith thanks14:34
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alex_xujohnthetubaguy: danpb could you help on this https://review.openstack.org/255122, I know today is reviewday, but I'm afraid people geting vacation next week. hope this can merge then developer can get coding early, thanks in advance!14:38
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bauzassdague: PaulMurray: sorry I was away14:42
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bauzasmoving the ComputeNodeFilter to be the first sounds good14:43
bauzasbecause calling AZs for down hosts seems bad to me14:43
bauzasthat said, I don't know if we need to modify that14:44
sdagueok, well we should decide if we are taking it, or want a change in it, and not just leave it flapping in the wind14:45
bauzasI'm not really opiniated for that14:47
bauzasthat said, picking a patch for that makes me afraid to have a lot of patches coming in because operators would like to modify the default opt14:47
edleafeit falls under the "if it ain't broke" category IMO14:48
bauzasso, while I think to have the ComputeFilter as said first is good, but I'd be -1 for others14:48
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sdaguebauzas: ok, well we need to make a statement either way, -1 is fine. It's ok to be opinionated about it. The lack of feedback is much worse than a -1 we don't want to do this.14:51
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johnthetubaguybetter defaults are important, but only if there is a clearly better option for the better default14:54
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johnthetubaguybauzas: whats the gerrit link on this one again?14:55
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johnthetubaguyclaudiub: is there any way we can get the CI to pass on this change? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175479/14:57
edleafejohnthetubaguy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180155/14:58
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openstackgerritPushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Build timeouts task filters deleting instances  https://review.openstack.org/24001715:01
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claudiubjohnthetubaguy: interesting. the hyper-v ci passed on the same patchset.15:01
claudiubjohnthetubaguy: looking through the logs.15:02
openstackgerritPavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: enginefacade: 'migration'  https://review.openstack.org/24349615:03
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PaulMurraybauzas, on compute filter vs AZ filter.... if you have more disable hosts than you have hosts in an AZ your in a bad way. that is the only way putting compute filter ahead of AZ filter makes sense15:08
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Adds json sample for the versioned notifications  https://review.openstack.org/24816715:09
PaulMurraybauzas, but if you don't use AZs you don't need the filter15:10
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openstackgerritMarian Horban proposed openstack/nova: Stop Libvirt event threads  https://review.openstack.org/25906615:10
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: could you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257344/ ?15:12
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I don't want to +W something just done by RH hguys15:12
openstackgerritMarian Horban proposed openstack/nova: Stop Libvirt event threads  https://review.openstack.org/25906615:13
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johnthetubaguybauzas: isn't that added a mox test, which is banned?15:14
sfinucansdague: Could I get you have a look at a patch you -1d a while back? Pretty please?15:14
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: the module is already using mox, and the added test is really a close one from the ohters15:15
sfinucanndipanov: Got a moment?15:15
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: asking for mock should seem to be a bit difficult to me just for that15:15
johnthetubaguybauzas: but we will have to move all mox tests to mock to get py34 working, I am told15:15
mriedemscottda: hemna: should nova wait for os-detach to complete before trying to delete a volume?15:17
openstackgerritMarian Horban proposed openstack/nova: Stop Libvirt event threads  https://review.openstack.org/25906615:18
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: well, good point but the py34 job seems a bit unneeded IMHO15:18
hemnamriedem, yes because os-detach is basically a DB update, so it makes the volume state available15:18
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: because it just leaves a lot of tets15:18
bauzastests15:18
johnthetubaguybauzas: I am talking about the end goal of us getting full py34 support, I don't care about the tests in them selves15:18
mriedemhemna: ok, nova doesn't wait today, it just gets the 202 and continues on15:19
mriedemhemna: this was regarding andrearosa's thread on force detach15:19
hemnamriedem  ok I haven't seen that one15:19
mriedemhemna: and i'm assuming volume delete fails if the volume is attached15:20
mriedemso nova is really just racing here15:20
hemnayup15:20
mriedemand getting lucky15:20
hemnait should15:20
mriedemyeah15:20
hemnaunless the volume state is available, delete should fail15:20
mriedemandrearosa: so that seems like a simple addition to _shutdown_instance in the compute manager - we could probably re-use the same timeout config option we use for waiting for volume attach to complete15:20
andrearosamriedem: hello15:21
* andrearosa reading back15:21
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claudiubjohnthetubaguy: it seems the ci failed due to some lost amqp messages. added a recheck on the patch.15:23
andrearosamriedem: I've just replied to your thread I am going to revisit my change,15:23
sdaguesfinucan: yuo need to be more specific, I have -1ed a lot of things15:23
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sfinucansdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240271/15:24
andrearosamriedem: as I workded on it months ago I just want to start from scratch and see if I messed something obvious. I actually worked on an initial patch put by wanghao15:24
andrearosamriedem: are you ok with that?15:24
ndipanovsfinucan, sure15:24
claudiubjohnthetubaguy: as for py3 compatibility, there are quite a few unit tests that I can't figure out why they fail. they are in nova.compute and they are related to volumes. apparently the volume's connection_info is None and it shouldn't be..15:24
andrearosamriedem: s/messed/missed even if I probably messed something :)15:25
mriedemandrearosa: that's fine, i'm just thinking nova probably needs to do a better job of the initial volume cleanup so we don't get into a state where we require hacks via nova-manage to cleanup busted state15:25
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mriedemthere is a clear race in the code i think where nova can be orphaning volumes15:25
sdaguesfinucan: there are other oslo.db debug messages which are quite useful, like the retry ones15:26
sdagueso I don't think blanket flipping that off is the right thing to do15:26
mriedemdansmith: when you get a chance, stable/kilo backport for leaking passwords https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249239/15:26
sfinucanndipanov: A quick one RE: CPU thread pinning15:26
dansmithmriedem: when you get a chance, I updated that patch you -1d in the live migration stuff15:26
sfinucan Deadline for feature freeze in January 21st. I'm gone from middle of next week until mid January. Anything I need to do before then?15:27
andrearosamriedem: that's for sure. I am working at the moment to some other operations in the area betweem nova and cinder and I find things which seem not right. For example https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257275/2 or https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257853/15:27
mriedemdansmith: i'll make it my xmas present for you15:27
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dansmithheh15:27
sfinucanAlso FYI if you see anything that needs changing while I'm out feel free to do so15:27
ndipanovjohnthetubaguy, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229574/ a gentle reminder :)15:27
ndipanovit's related to non priority feature15:27
ndipanovsfinucan, no I can baby sit it15:27
ndipanovthanks for letting me know15:28
ndipanovif some comments come up address them while you're here15:28
sfinucanndipanov: awesome, thanks :)15:28
sfinucansdague:15:28
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sfinucansdague: Hmmm, I think it's going to be all or nothing though, right?15:28
andrearosandipanov: I am interested in having your opinion here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257853/15:28
mriedemdansmith: i'm going to need to cross check the libvirt migrate data object to the libvirt driver code for the fields, which will take a little bit15:28
sdaguesfinucan: via that config option, yes15:28
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dansmithmriedem: just as long as you don't start vacation until it lands, that's fine :)15:29
sfinucansdague: Is there another way though? All the attempts I've made are variants of "turn the config option off"15:29
mriedemeee, i have about 15 minutes then15:29
sdaguewell, nothing is landing right now, the gate is stalled, infra looking into it15:30
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sdaguesfinucan: you can override python logging in nova-manage itself15:31
dansmithmriedem: better lower your standards then15:31
sdaguethe problem with setting it in nova config.py is that you just disabled it for all servers15:31
sdagueby default15:31
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sfinucansdague: Yeah, it's quite extensive15:32
sfinucanHowever I didn't think oslo_db debug messages would be important enough to bother propogating up outside of development15:33
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mriedemis it just me or does new gerrit get the 'toggle ci' button screwed up?15:33
sfinucanI'm not an operator though, so I can't say for sure15:33
sdaguesfinucan: if you turn debug=True you did want stuff like that, and honestly the retry stuff is a bit important because it exposes deadlocks15:33
openstackgerritCyril Roelandt proposed openstack/nova: Remove version hardcoding for 'create' method  https://review.openstack.org/25907815:33
sdagueanyway, that fix is a really big hammer for a small ux issue on nova-manage. That ux thing should be done in nova-manage, not impacting everything else15:34
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sdagueso I remain -115:34
sfinucansdague: OK, so I should pursue something like I did patchset 2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240271/2/nova/cmd/manage.py15:34
mriedemdansmith: you didn't want to make any of those fields enums?15:35
sfinucanbut one that retains logging levels for other services15:35
mriedemi had pointed out a few that could be enums15:35
sdaguesfinucan: yes15:35
openstackgerritRodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/nova: Added new scheduler filter: AggregateTypeExtraSpecsAffinityFilter  https://review.openstack.org/18927915:35
dansmithmriedem: ah, yeah, I can do that, I forgot15:35
mriedemok, don't do that yet.15:35
dansmithmriedem: but I can also do it in a later patch, if..you know.. you're in a hurry to go on vacay :P15:35
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sfinucansdague: OK, I'll try that and check back in if I get anywhere15:36
sfinucanThanks for your time15:36
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scottdamriedem: hemna the call to os-detach also includes remove_export in the driver. So Perhaps that is why it is async15:39
hemnacould be15:39
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: API: Adds instance live-resize  https://review.openstack.org/18458415:40
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: conductor: add live_resize task  https://review.openstack.org/24857915:40
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: compute: Adds instance live-resize  https://review.openstack.org/24858115:40
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: objects: Adds os_live_resize field to ImageMetaProps  https://review.openstack.org/25908215:40
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: db: Adds host_capabilities column in compute_nodes  https://review.openstack.org/22827915:43
mriedemdansmith: comments inline15:43
mriedemdansmith: otherwise it's looking pretty good15:43
mriedemhaven't looked at the tests yet15:44
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mriedemalright, i'm out until monday, sniff you jerks later15:50
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Fixes Python 3 unit tests for nova.compute  https://review.openstack.org/24774215:53
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: remove nova-cert from most functional tests  https://review.openstack.org/25813515:54
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Fixes conductor py3 unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/25398915:56
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Fixes network py3 unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/25399015:56
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Fixes cells py3 unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/25582415:57
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: remove use of _get_regexes in samples tests  https://review.openstack.org/25743915:57
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: Use just ids in all request templates for flavors/images  https://review.openstack.org/25743815:57
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: extract non instance methods  https://review.openstack.org/25644115:57
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mhorban@sdague, @lxsli_festive: Hi guys! I want to ask about reloading configuration and review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223668/4 .15:59
mhorban@sdague, @lxsli_festive: As I understood there should be two changes: 1. Add mutability to oslo.log config options, 2. Add service's code which react on reloading configuration. First step is done in review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254821/. This review implements second step. ...Or my vision is wrong?16:00
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snikitin2johnthetubaguy, alex_xu: Hi guys! Today is a code review day and I want to ask you to look at one very old patch called "instance tags". I'm pinging you because you are familiar with this patch more then others. Now it has -1 from Jenkins because of broken CI. I rechecked it but it stuck in zuul because of brocen CI :( I've been trying to merge it for about 2 years so please look at this patch. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128940/16:09
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: mriedem: given that it seems there is a consensus of not providing new tests using mox, could we provide a code-review.rst change for that?16:16
danpbyeah we should do16:16
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: mriedem: I was thinking of the previous consensus about adding new tests with mox if the module was using that16:17
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johnthetubaguyyep, I started to change my mind yesterday talking to sdague16:17
johnthetubaguyafter discovering the issues we are seeing with mox3 right now16:17
sdagueyeh, one of the places we're inadvertantly doing it is with the self.stubs.Set (which is used in a lot of tests that don't use mox otherwise)16:18
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sdagueI have a local patch that would create a self.patch in test.py that uses the MonkeyPatch fixture instead16:18
mosheledanpb: if you have time can you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227160/ is has already +2 from ndipanov16:19
sdaguebut I did want to get that idea acked by someone before pushing it out there16:19
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Adds json sample for the versioned notifications  https://review.openstack.org/24816716:20
johnthetubaguysdague: that sounds worth trying16:20
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: so, should we put up a blueprint for tracking mox removal ?16:20
johnthetubaguysdague: yeah, we could, or just keep it under py3416:20
sdagueok, a number of the patches won't look like py34 patches, so it might confuse folks16:21
johnthetubaguyfair enough, seems a good split, I can approve that as a BP split16:21
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bauzaswe should at least write our new policy in the code-review.rst doc file I guess16:22
bauzasbut I agree with you, folks16:22
bauzaspy34 job just seems useless because the lots of unchecked tests, so if we can help that, it's cool16:22
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openstackgerritPawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: Add way to pause VM during live migration  https://review.openstack.org/24592116:23
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/remove-mox16:24
bauzasthat sounds a low-hanging fruit for newcomers :)16:24
bauzasspeaking of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-low-hanging-fruit16:24
openstackgerritPawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: Add way to pause VM during live migration  https://review.openstack.org/24592116:26
johnthetubaguysdague: cool, approved16:26
johnthetubaguybauzas: yeah, worth an add16:26
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add xenapi support for XenapiLiveMigrateData objects  https://review.openstack.org/24785316:27
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make libvirt driver return migrate data objects for source and dest checks  https://review.openstack.org/24772016:27
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Actually pass the migration data object down to the virt drivers  https://review.openstack.org/24821116:27
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Allow sending the migrate data objects over the wire  https://review.openstack.org/25158816:27
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: introduce ``patch`` method to base test class  https://review.openstack.org/25909616:28
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: ^^16:28
andrearosasdague: +1000 on removing mox, thanks for that16:28
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openstackgerritMike Fedosin proposed openstack/nova: Remove version hardcoding for 'show' method  https://review.openstack.org/22857816:32
openstackgerritMike Fedosin proposed openstack/nova: Remove version hardcoding for 'download' method  https://review.openstack.org/25234116:32
openstackgerritMike Fedosin proposed openstack/nova: Remove version hardcoding for 'detail' method  https://review.openstack.org/23830916:32
openstackgerritMike Fedosin proposed openstack/nova: Bringing Glance v2 images to a uniform format  https://review.openstack.org/23169616:32
openstackgerritMike Fedosin proposed openstack/nova: Remove version hardcoding for 'delete' method  https://review.openstack.org/25233416:32
openstackgerritMike Fedosin proposed openstack/nova: Remove version hardcoding for 'create' method  https://review.openstack.org/25909716:32
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: introduce ``patch`` method to base test class  https://review.openstack.org/25909616:41
sdagueoh pep8 unused imports16:41
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Zuul is moving in very slow motion since roughly 13:30 UTC; the Infra team is investigating.16:42
arunkant_Hi..Can someone please review nova keymgr bug fix..https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243322/16:47
openstackgerritesracelik proposed openstack/nova: Config options: centralize "configdrive" options  https://review.openstack.org/25409216:48
openstackgerritKaitlin Farr proposed openstack/nova-specs: Integrate Castellan for Key Management  https://review.openstack.org/24756116:48
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add xenapi support for XenapiLiveMigrateData objects  https://review.openstack.org/24785316:50
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make libvirt driver return migrate data objects for source and dest checks  https://review.openstack.org/24772016:50
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Actually pass the migration data object down to the virt drivers  https://review.openstack.org/24821116:50
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Allow sending the migrate data objects over the wire  https://review.openstack.org/25158816:50
sdaguedansmith: what's the story on removing rpc methods from nova-net that are grizzly era?16:51
sdagueI noticed there has never been an rpc major bump there, so does that mean removes remain off the table?16:51
dansmithsdague: well, technically it needs a major bump16:51
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dansmithsdague: if you mark them now with a comment, we can plan to remove them after m316:52
dansmither, bump them I mean16:52
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: remove unused update_dhcp_hostfile_with_text method  https://review.openstack.org/25910516:54
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sdaguedansmith: ok - https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/network/floating_ips.py#L499 is what I was seeing for reference16:55
sdagueit actually looks like there is a ton of stuff in there awaiting removal16:56
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rsquaredI've got a working cluster installed via packstack and I would like to add a new compute node.  Is there a guide for how to do that?16:59
dansmithsdague: yep17:00
dansmithsdague: if we're going to do it, we should make it automatic like compute17:00
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: remove unused trigger_handler  https://review.openstack.org/25910817:01
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openstackgerritNikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: PCI stats will also include device_type in it's pools for PFs  https://review.openstack.org/24901717:05
openstackgerritNikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: Make pci_alias parsing logic not assume device_type is set  https://review.openstack.org/25911017:05
ndipanovvladikr, ping17:05
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ndipanovvladikr, see https://review.openstack.org/24901717:06
ndipanovI updated one of your patches with some stuff I needed17:06
ndipanovit basically does less than your original patch though17:06
ndipanovso you may need to add one on top of that17:07
ndipanovI think this can safely be the bottom of the branch so maybe rebase on top of it?17:07
ndipanovanyway take a look and tell me what you think... <- vladikr17:07
openstackgerritRyan Rossiter proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Change to use o.vo fixture for compat test  https://review.openstack.org/25911217:07
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vladikrndipanov, sure, looking17:08
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openstackgerritNikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: Make pci_alias parsing logic not assume device_type is set  https://review.openstack.org/25911017:19
openstackgerritNikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: PCI stats will also include device_type in it's pools for PFs  https://review.openstack.org/24901717:19
ndipanovvladikr, fixed ^17:19
ndipanovsome things got added to the wrong commit17:19
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ndipanovshould make more sense now17:20
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vladikrndipanov, I've missed your comment previously on ps4, here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249017/4..6/nova/pci/request.py17:22
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ndipanovvladikr, well that's explained in my new commit message - it;s not completely accurate, as you can add it to the whitelist and it will work17:23
vladikrndipanov, I had 'device_type'  working there I've just matched it to the spec , which was 'dev_type' only in the pcidevice object ..17:23
ndipanovvladikr, see my commit message - that way we can't be backwards compatible (I think)17:24
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vladikrndipanov, ok, reading, for aliases it would remain 'device_type' , but not sure about whitelist, as I didn't think if we can even add device_type there..17:25
vladikrndipanov, looking17:25
ndipanovvladikr, we can't as it breaks the "PF means also all of it's VFs" feature17:26
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ndipanovsomeone pointed it out on the spec too17:27
vladikrndipanov, tbh, not sure what do you mean..17:27
ndipanovvladikr, see the commit message :) I hope it's not too terse17:28
vladikrndipanov, yeah :) reading17:28
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vladikrndipanov, so that part "would only match a device that was whitelisted with 'device_type': 'NIC' as part of the whitelist entry like so:" is not right17:35
ndipanovorly17:35
vladikryea17:35
ndipanovhow else do you extend tags?17:36
vladikrsec17:36
ndipanovif you add it to the alias, it will end up in the RequestSpec.spec dict17:36
ndipanovand that has to match a tag of the pool17:37
ndipanovthat's how physical_network hack works too <- vladikr17:38
vladikryea, I have extended the pool_keys in stats with dev_type from what the host is exposing17:39
vladikrand RquestSpec.spec had dev_type in it , instead of the reported device_type17:40
ndipanovyeah17:40
vladikrso it matched17:40
ndipanovbut we can't rename it really17:40
vladikrwe didn't17:40
vladikralias still has device_type17:40
vladikrbut when we form the requestSpec.spec17:40
vladikrwe have dev_type in it17:41
vladikrI have the same version, with the tests working17:41
vladikrI can upload it for you to see, if it still wont make sense we can got with anything else17:42
vladikrs/got/go17:42
ndipanovhmmm17:43
ndipanovthat's because you add device_type to pool keys17:43
ndipanovbut it's actually called dev_type on the object17:44
vladikrI've added device_type to pool keys17:45
openstackgerritRaildo Mascena proposed openstack/nova: Nested Quota Driver: Create Column Allocated  https://review.openstack.org/24250017:45
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ndipanovright, but it will not get picked up from the device object itself17:45
openstackgerritRaildo Mascena proposed openstack/nova: Nested Quota: Set default values to subproject  https://review.openstack.org/24251417:46
ndipanovsince the actual attribute is called dev_type17:46
vladikrsorry , I have added dev_type tp pool keys17:46
ndipanovbut how does dev_type end up in Request.spec then?17:46
ndipanovit's called device_type there17:47
openstackgerritRaildo Mascena proposed openstack/nova: Nested Quota Driver: Get Hierarchy info  https://review.openstack.org/24256817:47
ndipanovand we can't rename it - it'll break deployments potentially17:47
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ndipanovvladikr, ^17:47
vladikrright, it's in the requests, when we form the spec, I have changed it from device_type tp dev_type17:47
vladikrI'll paste sec17:47
ndipanovthat breaks potential folks who were specifying it in the whitelist17:48
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vladikrhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/249017/4/nova/pci/request.py17:48
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vladikrndipanov, line 11817:48
ndipanovvladikr, yep - still maybe breaks people17:48
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vladikrndipanov, how? they will still specify "device_type" in aliases17:49
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vladikrthis is just how we form the spec17:49
openstackgerritMitsuhiro Tanino proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Validation for arguments of list command passed by "--fields"  https://review.openstack.org/25373417:49
ndipanovhmmm17:49
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ndipanovso what if they specified it in whitelist too17:49
vladikrndipanov, I don't actually think they can, but it still doesn't break anything17:50
mtaninosdague: Hi, I updated this based on your comment. Is this fine? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253734/17:50
ndipanovthey can17:50
vladikrstill would be the same behaviour, as we don't touch the way aliases are created17:50
sdaguemtanino: +217:50
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mtaninosdague: thank you for the confirmation.17:51
ndipanovtags (from the whitelist) override pool_keys from the object17:51
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ndipanovso you are right I think17:52
vladikrndipanov, I will double check that in any case17:52
ndipanovah no since the alias now says dev_type but pool will have device_type17:53
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ndipanovand dev_type17:53
ndipanovwhich would not match what was in the alias provided dev_type (read from device_type)17:53
vladikraliases will still have device_type17:53
ndipanovyes but it will match whatever is in dev_type17:54
ndipanovso if someone had a NIC there17:54
ndipanovit can't match the enum17:54
openstackgerritRaildo Mascena proposed openstack/nova: Nested Quota Driver: Create Column Allocated  https://review.openstack.org/24250017:54
ndipanov    STANDARD = "type-PCI"17:54
ndipanov    SRIOV_PF = "type-PF"17:54
ndipanov    SRIOV_VF = "type-VF"17:54
ndipanovvladikr, ^^17:54
vladikrndipanov, right, as NIC is not even supported right now17:54
vladikrso we just need raise a correct exception17:55
PaulMurrayHappy Christmas everyone - I'm disappearing off now - see you all after the new year17:55
ndipanovwell no because people could have been doing "NIC" in whitelist and "NIC" in alias (unlikely but it would work)17:56
ndipanovprobably an edge case...17:56
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openstackgerritRaildo Mascena proposed openstack/nova: Nested Quota: Set default values to subproject  https://review.openstack.org/24251417:57
ndipanovvladikr, try that if you have a sec17:57
vladikrndipanov, I think so far we have completely ignored device_type all together ...17:57
vladikrndipanov, I'll try17:57
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ndipanovvladikr, well you can't ignore it if it's set on the alias18:00
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ndipanovand it was a valid thing to set18:00
ndipanovhowever unnecessary18:01
ndipanovlet me just state at this point18:01
ndipanovthat those whitelist are a horrible idea18:01
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ndipanovvladikr, I'm off for today - talk tomorrow18:03
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openstackgerritRaildo Mascena proposed openstack/nova: Nested Quota Driver: Get Hierarchy info  https://review.openstack.org/24256818:03
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: remove use of _get_regexes in samples tests  https://review.openstack.org/25743918:03
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: Use just ids in all request templates for flavors/images  https://review.openstack.org/25743818:03
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: extract non instance methods  https://review.openstack.org/25644118:03
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openstackgerritSamuel Matzek proposed openstack/nova: glance: secure https when getting client version  https://review.openstack.org/25494418:04
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openstackgerritRaildo Mascena proposed openstack/nova: Nested Quota Driver  https://review.openstack.org/24262618:13
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openstackgerritSamuel Matzek proposed openstack/nova: glance: secure https when getting client version  https://review.openstack.org/25494418:22
openstackgerritPatrick East proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add discard support for attached volumes  https://review.openstack.org/20572618:25
openstackgerritPawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: Add way to pause VM during live migration  https://review.openstack.org/24592118:26
openstackgerritPawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: Add new DB API method to retrieve migration for instance  https://review.openstack.org/25727018:26
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openstackgerritPatrick East proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add discard support for attached volumes  https://review.openstack.org/20572618:29
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dane-fichtersdague: thanks!18:33
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openstackgerritGiridhar Jayavelu proposed openstack/nova: VMware: configure limits during resize operation  https://review.openstack.org/20421918:41
sdaguedane-fichter: np18:45
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sdaguedane-fichter: the patch above it got caught in the alembic break yesterday18:47
sdagueso I rechecked that one18:47
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sdaguedansmith: I was thinking about that missed lease release issue18:50
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sdagueI wonder if it's worth triggering the cleanup any time we add a new lease18:50
dansmithsdague: ...okay18:51
dansmithI don't think we should,18:51
sdagueinstead of a periodic heal, just heal on events18:51
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sdaguedansmith: ok18:52
dansmithbecause the time is/should be related to the lease time18:52
dansmithdepending on what you're doing, you may know it's safe to set that interval low,18:52
dansmithbut in general it should be lease time,18:52
dansmithespecially for something like ironic where you don't have as great an assurance that it's off18:52
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dansmithand even to some degree things like vmware where you're pretty far removed from the hypervisor18:53
sdagueright, but the cleanup only happens if it's disassociated18:53
dansmithright, but you don't know that the thing is really off the network, that's the point18:53
dansmithdisassociated is just a database thing,18:53
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dansmithnot really directly tied to whether the driver has completely destroyed the instance18:54
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openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Only attempt to inject files if the injection disk exists  https://review.openstack.org/25087218:54
openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: WIP: libvirt storage pools initial step  https://review.openstack.org/25914818:54
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sdagueok18:54
sdaguewell the current patch will at least make us consistent18:54
dansmithyeah18:54
sdagueI guess the only question is whether we leak at a high enough rate under normal circumstances that people need to clean up faster18:55
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dansmithwell, we're not really leaking18:55
dansmithbut yeah,18:55
dansmithand that's where the call comes to decide if you think it's safe to lower your periodic timer18:55
sdagueyep, ok18:55
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openstackgerritSergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Changed filter_by() to filter() during filtering instances in db API  https://review.openstack.org/24567719:31
openstackgerritSergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Added db API layer to add instance tag-list filtering support  https://review.openstack.org/24880519:31
openstackgerritSergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Added server tags support in nova-api  https://review.openstack.org/12894019:31
openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Support mac and type for /servers/ips request  https://review.openstack.org/25726119:33
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jrolldansmith: mind landing this to get it off my list? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258687/19:36
dansmithjroll: doneski19:37
jrollthanks19:37
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openstackgerritSven Anderson proposed openstack/nova: Update the image size according to datastore  https://review.openstack.org/25802019:54
openstackgerritRaildo Mascena proposed openstack/nova: Nested Quota Driver: Create Column Allocated  https://review.openstack.org/24250019:54
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migidansmith, would appriciate if you could take a look at next 2 reviews from uuids20:17
dansmithmigi: I will, I have them open in my queue20:17
migidansmith, you have one in a time opportunity to give 2x -20:17
migiok20:17
migithanks20:17
migi:)20:17
migino rush though..20:18
migilearned how to stack one on top of another on top of another... :)20:18
dansmithcool20:19
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openstackgerritFawad Khaliq proposed openstack/nova: remove network information from IOvisor vif  https://review.openstack.org/25917620:38
sdaguemigi: you got links, I can check them out as well20:40
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migisdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:%22Michal+Pryc%22+status:open20:40
migithere are 220:40
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sdaguelooks good20:42
openstackgerritFawad Khaliq proposed openstack/nova: remove network information from IOvisor vif  https://review.openstack.org/25917620:42
migisdague: thx20:43
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sdaguethe ceph job is acting up again, are there outstanding patches to try to make that better?20:44
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vilobhmm11alaski : can you please have a look https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253306/20:46
vilobhmm11flavor classes20:46
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: remove unused extends_name attribute  https://review.openstack.org/25917920:54
tonybmeeting in <10mins right?20:54
sdagueyeh20:56
dansmithcorrection20:56
dansmith"short meeting in 10 minutes"20:56
sdaguedansmith: you running it today?20:56
dansmithno20:56
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dansmithbut I want it to be short, and getting the terminology is an important step in the psychology20:56
sdagueheh20:56
sdaguewho is running it, it's normally mriedem right?20:57
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dansmithnormally mikal20:57
sdagueah, ok20:57
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: remove unused methods from integrated_helpers test class  https://review.openstack.org/25918020:57
sdaguedansmith: so, following up a statement ealier in the week - https://pypi.python.org/pypi/vulture20:58
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sdagueit's got a lot of false positives20:58
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dansmithyeah20:58
sdaguehowever, it makes for a reasonable list to actually inspect20:58
dansmithcool20:58
sdagueit gets subclasses really wrong20:58
sdaguebut unused methods seem to be a reasonable hit rate20:59
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mikaldansmith: nope, not me21:00
dansmithoh, do we get a pass this week?21:00
dansmithI'm tooootally down for that21:00
mikaldansmith: as in, I am unsure who johnthetubaguy has lined up to run it21:00
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sdaguewhich meeting room is it normally in?21:01
melwittmaybe he forgot mriedem was going on vacation21:01
mikalsdague: Just openstack-meeting21:02
tonybsomeone that can type better that I can should # startmeeting ;P21:02
dansmithis there anything important on the agenda?21:02
sdagueok, lets just do it quick21:02
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openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova: Remove the old object_compat wrapper.  https://review.openstack.org/25768621:06
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mikalWhat does NOT_REGISTERED mean as a test result from jenkins?21:07
mikalIt seems to count as a failure?21:07
openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: virt: Allow multiple volume attachments  https://review.openstack.org/19313521:10
openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: comp: Allow multiple volume attachments  https://review.openstack.org/19313421:10
openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: obj: Allow multiple volume attachments  https://review.openstack.org/19313321:10
openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: db: Allow multiple volume attachments  https://review.openstack.org/15303321:10
openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: WIP: REST API changes to support multi-attach  https://review.openstack.org/15303821:10
openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: virt: Pass host when call attach to Cinder  https://review.openstack.org/25627321:10
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dansmithsdague: reasonable job21:11
openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Support mac and type for /servers/ips request  https://review.openstack.org/25726121:12
dimsjust under 12:00 mins :)21:12
sdaguemikal: NOT_REGISTERED means that zuul asked jenkins to run a job by name21:12
sdagueand jenkins was all "what you talking about willis"21:12
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sdaguebecause it's job definitions weren't up to date21:12
cdentsdague: I could probably convince myself that cross-projects and I were a good match, if other people thought so21:13
mikalsdague: was that expected fallout from the gerrit upgrade?21:13
mikalsdague: i.e. a recheck for the win?21:13
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sdaguecdent: I think that would be cool21:13
sdagueI'd just say circle with johnthetubaguy and raise your hand21:13
sdaguemikal: I don't think it was expected21:14
sdaguehowever it did seem to happen for about the first hour after the change window21:14
mikalOk, so a recheck then. Done.21:14
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sdaguemikal: and the price of that answer, review my glance config fixes - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:glance_image_config21:14
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mikalsdague: I can't just rage quit instead?21:14
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sdagueif that's the way you want to spend your "I saved your life" credit21:15
mikalHeh21:15
mikalOk, I will review this thing post shower21:15
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mikalAnd keep my "I saved your life" credit for another time21:16
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sdaguedansmith: the leased ips fix is in the gate finally21:19
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* cdent fights the power21:23
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: remove unused pipeline_factory_v3 alias  https://review.openstack.org/25918521:29
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sdaguecdent: which power are you fighting?21:30
cdentI left a contrary opinion on the mission statement review21:30
cdentIt could probably have been written much more shortly as "won't someone please think of the users"21:31
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sdaguecdent: did you read the defcore review?21:34
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cdentsdague: the one that was being reviewed during the tc meeting?21:35
sdaguecdent: well, linked to21:36
sdaguehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/244782/21:36
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: remove unused EXTENSION_DESERIALIZE_* constants  https://review.openstack.org/25918921:36
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cdentsdague: no, not that one, just monty's thing in response21:37
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sdagueok, I'd say start with the defcore one21:38
cdentI've never disputed the argument there: I'm completely in agreement with what you and monty have stated so well.21:39
sdagueoh, I'm reading your comments now, I agree with your comment21:39
cdentWhat I'm disagreeing with is _only_ the limitations on the breadth of nova21:39
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cdentIt's amusing to me that these defcore discussion involve people I've never heard of.21:42
sdaguecdent: yeh, I'm with you21:42
sdagueyeh, defcore is a charter of the board21:42
sdagueso mostly not people you see in the technical community21:43
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: remove vestigial XML_NS_V11 variable  https://review.openstack.org/25919121:43
sdaguegod there are some weird left over crud from the xml removal21:43
cdentsdague++ this is a good summary "feel like it's ok for the TC to declare that your cloud must be able to do X to be OpenStack, even if Nova can do X, Y, and Z."21:44
cdentYou've used your verbal tick in your comment: honestly-as-a-prefix21:44
cdentHonestly, when I don't use the prefix "honestly" I'm not being honest.21:44
cdent;)21:44
sdagueheh21:45
sdaguewell communication includes emphasis :)21:46
sdaguebut, yes, I write like I talk21:46
auggyor "literally" that's another good prefix21:46
cdentIt's probably a good thing: It makes you recognizable.21:46
cdentI think I became sensitive to it when I moved to the UK, where be use the phrase "to be honest" or "to be fair" as a prefix to sort of disclaim in a similar way to "I'm not a racist, but..."21:47
cdents/where be/where people/21:47
tonybyou're not sdague!  sdague you have said "{so,honnestly,literally} ..." there :D21:47
cdentha!21:48
auggyoh we're specifically referring to sdague prefixes! i just thought we were referring to prefixes in general21:48
cdentimpostor!21:48
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kfox1111nova-novnc service, if making ha, can that be active/active, or is it stateless and shoudl be active/passive?21:58
kfox1111I'm trying to make all of the stuff we have that is active/active be on one set of nodes, where we should be able to drain and reboot nodes at whim, and keep the rest on a set of higher availability nodes.21:59
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sdagueheh21:59
sdagueok, time to call it a day folks. See yuo all tomorrow.22:02
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openstackgerritAugustina Ragwitz proposed openstack/nova: Make project_id optional in v2.1 urls  https://review.openstack.org/23307622:31
auggysdague: gnite!22:31
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auggysdague: the microversion needed to be bumped to 2.15, a change landed for 2.1422:32
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vilobhmm11bauzas : ping22:48
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mikalsdague: you still around?23:13
mikalsdague: cause I like totally -1'ed your patch series23:13
mikalCause I am poorly socialized23:13
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alex_xumikal: morning, appreciate if you can help on this https://review.openstack.org/255122, the developer still wait for this correction, then start the coding. thanks in advance!23:34
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