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| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Use version convert methods from oslo_utils.versionutils https://review.openstack.org/203322 | 02:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bo Chi proposed openstack/nova: Fix some usage for exception https://review.openstack.org/247898 | 04:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Man Li Qi proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Ensure all the disk files of VM could be deleted along with VM deletion https://review.openstack.org/228285 | 05:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova: xenapi: OVS agent updates the wrong port when using XenServer + Neutron https://review.openstack.org/242846 | 05:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yingxin Cheng proposed openstack/nova: Use stevedore for scheduler host manager https://review.openstack.org/246476 | 05:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/242727 | 06:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Fix reclaim_instance_interval < 0 never delete instance completely https://review.openstack.org/248539 | 06:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Eli Qiao proposed openstack/nova-specs: support auto coverge for live migration https://review.openstack.org/248358 | 06:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhihai Song proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Change the logic for the client to retrive resources https://review.openstack.org/246881 | 06:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | ShaoHe Feng proposed openstack/nova-specs: report more live migration progress detail https://review.openstack.org/248472 | 08:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova-specs: Cancel ongoing live migrations https://review.openstack.org/228828 | 08:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yingxin Cheng proposed openstack/nova: Use stevedore for scheduler host manager https://review.openstack.org/246476 | 08:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rui Chen proposed openstack/nova-specs: Avoid API conflicting operations in parallel https://review.openstack.org/216578 | 08:47 |
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| bauzas | good morning Nova | 08:51 |
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| Guest18382 | superdan: Just comment on the change in gerrit when you want me to run a real test | 09:20 |
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| BobBall | ^^ (that was from me) | 09:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Adds live resize task states and instance action https://review.openstack.org/184585 | 09:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Adds instance live resize nova-api microversion https://review.openstack.org/184584 | 09:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: db: Adds live-resize to Migration model migration_type https://review.openstack.org/185961 | 09:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: objects: Adds live-resize to Migration object migration_type https://review.openstack.org/185962 | 09:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: conductor: add live_resize task https://review.openstack.org/248579 | 09:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: compute rpcapi: Adds live-resize https://review.openstack.org/248580 | 09:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: driver: Adds live-resize https://review.openstack.org/248581 | 09:26 |
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| tangchen__ | Please help to review the spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229282/ | 09:29 |
| tangchen__ | Thx. | 09:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tang Chen proposed openstack/nova: Translate power state strings with dict for nodes.set_power_state(). https://review.openstack.org/248584 | 09:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Tang Chen proposed openstack/nova: Add soft power off support to ironic driver. https://review.openstack.org/248585 | 09:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Tang Chen proposed openstack/nova: Add soft reboot support to ironic driver. https://review.openstack.org/248586 | 09:29 |
| snikitin | alex_xu: Hi, Alex! recently I asked your opinion about backporting this performance patch. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245656/1 If you have time, could you please look it? | 09:30 |
| alex_xu | snikitin: yea, will take a look at. | 09:31 |
| snikitin | alex_xu: thank you | 09:31 |
| alex_xu | snikitin: np | 09:31 |
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| mdbooth | paul-carlton2: Hey, was trying to catch you last week. I see you've updated the spec. | 09:41 |
| mdbooth | I've been working on it, too, but after looking harder at the code I've gone off piste a fair bit | 09:42 |
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| mdbooth | The problem is, neither the storage pools spec nor the storage migration spec defines the interface between hosts using storage pools and those not | 09:43 |
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| mdbooth | As I was trying to say last week, I think the issue of how the data is transferred is pretty trivial in comparison | 09:44 |
| mdbooth | It's just a matter of a few lines of code different | 09:44 |
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| mdbooth | Anyway, I see danpb has given it a +2, so lets leave that alone :) I'm all for ticking boxes. However, I should probably share what I was working on anyway. | 09:45 |
| paul-carlton2 | mdbooth: I can update 'Migrate libvirt volumes' spec to make it explicit, but my understanding is that we will use libvirt to libvirt comms | 09:45 |
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| mdbooth | The issue here is that we've got a side channel. Compute hosts are directly poking data on to other compute hosts. | 09:46 |
| paul-carlton2 | The thinking being that we should put effort into making libvirt do data transfer efficiently rather than look for alternative? | 09:46 |
| mdbooth | However, we're changing where compute hosts are putting things. | 09:47 |
| mdbooth | Which means that an old host might put data in the wrong place. | 09:47 |
| paul-carlton2 | side channel? | 09:47 |
| mdbooth | SSH/libvirt storage pools | 09:47 |
| mdbooth | Not going via a nova rpc call | 09:47 |
| mdbooth | Anyway, it presents an interesting upgrade problem | 09:47 |
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| mdbooth | Also, I think the libvirt storage pools spec made it optional? | 09:48 |
| paul-carlton2 | ok, so I think we should be able to use driver features to transfer data as long as nova is orchestrating it? | 09:48 |
| mdbooth | Yes, absolutely. The devil is then in the detail. | 09:49 |
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| pilgrimstack | Hi nova | 09:49 |
| paul-carlton2 | Nope, plan is to make libvirt storage pools the default, danbp was keen it be that way | 09:49 |
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| mdbooth | paul-carlton2: I think it's almost unworkable unless we do that, tbh | 09:49 |
| mdbooth | Because we can't remove the legacy migration cruft until at least 1 full release after we remove the option not to use storage pools | 09:50 |
| garyk | johnthetubaguy: bauzas: please see https://review.openstack.org/247705 - this is for the release note for M1 | 09:50 |
| mdbooth | So we should just remove it immediately | 09:50 |
| bauzas | garyk: ack | 09:50 |
| mdbooth | There's no good reason to keep it that I can think of. | 09:50 |
| paul-carlton2 | I agree, these specs were inherited from Solly Ross so as I said the other day my understanding of what needs to be done is conceptual at this point but I'm working to fix that! | 09:50 |
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| mdbooth | paul-carlton2: So, for eg, I was looking in the migration control flow for an opportunity for the destination to report to the source where it wants data to go | 09:51 |
| mdbooth | Because right now we have no way of communicating that, except by convention | 09:52 |
| paul-carlton2 | by legacy migration stuff you mean existing cold migration implementation? We will retain live migration features | 09:52 |
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| garyk | bauzas: thanks | 09:52 |
| mdbooth | Yes. All the code which assumes the data layout on a remote compute host. | 09:52 |
| mdbooth | I think we're going to change it to use storage pools, and retain rsync as a transfer option. | 09:53 |
| bauzas | garyk: are you okay with a small respin ? | 09:53 |
| mdbooth | But that latter point is trivial. | 09:53 |
| bauzas | garyk: you could use `` `` for some stuff | 09:53 |
| paul-carlton2 | Agreed, the whole point of using libvirt storage pools is to make libvirt responsible for more stuff and use it's api rather than managing files directly | 09:54 |
| mdbooth | Let me pastebin some of what I've been working on | 09:54 |
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| mdbooth | It's incomplete | 09:54 |
| bauzas | garyk: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/05/247705/3/check/gate-nova-releasenotes/3d1d843//releasenotes/build/html/unreleased.html#id1 it looks good but some words could be using `` `` | 09:54 |
| garyk | bauzas: np. i can and should address | 09:54 |
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| mdbooth | paul-carlton2: http://paste.openstack.org/show/479698/ | 09:55 |
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| bauzas | garyk: you can test your relnote by using the tox -ereleasenotes and look at the build HTML | 09:56 |
| mdbooth | I believe this is the hard work involved in updating the migration code to use storage pools | 09:56 |
| garyk | bauzas: not sure i follow - should i be using `` instaed of the `? | 09:56 |
| bauzas | garyk: sec, verifying on my local venv | 09:56 |
| garyk | k | 09:56 |
| mdbooth | Whether to use rsync or libvirt transfer is a few lines difference | 09:56 |
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| mdbooth | I'm not happy with that map yet, btw | 09:57 |
| mdbooth | It's incomplete | 09:57 |
| garyk | mdbooth: you are never happy :) | 09:57 |
| mdbooth | garyk: :P | 09:57 |
| mdbooth | garyk: I actually find it hard to think of all these details when not actually writing code | 09:58 |
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| pilgrimstack | do you know if there is a way to ask nova to concat 2 keypair to put in the default user authorization_keys? | 09:58 |
| garyk | mdbooth: i hear you | 09:58 |
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| paul-carlton2 | mdbooth: Looking at paste, good info, have some thoughts questions but have a meeting right now so will get back to you later, ta | 09:59 |
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| mdbooth | paul-carlton2: Anyway, I believe this is the hard problem. I'm not wedded to this solution, though, so if you have a better idea I'm all for it. | 09:59 |
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| pilgrimstack | story: As a temant admin, I have to manage N ssh keypairs, sometimes I need to give acces for 2 or N ssh keys instead of just 1. | 10:00 |
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| bauzas | garyk: okay, I just verified, you can use double backticks | 10:00 |
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| pilgrimstack | is it possible without creating a new fake keypair which will be a cat of the different other keys? | 10:00 |
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| bauzas | garyk: to be clear, I'm not against your change, I'll just modify some already merged notes because they are not that fancy :) | 10:01 |
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| garyk | bauzas: ok. i'll update | 10:02 |
| ndipanov | bauzas, can you change this to +2 pls https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229792/ | 10:03 |
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| bauzas | ndipanov: done | 10:06 |
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| ndipanov | bauzas, tnx | 10:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: Add relnote for change in default setting https://review.openstack.org/247705 | 10:07 |
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| garyk | bauzas: ^ - i guess we can wait for jenins to see the rendering | 10:08 |
| bauzas | garyk: sure, ping me when Jenkins is okay :) | 10:09 |
| bauzas | garyk: I'm already +1'ing it | 10:09 |
| garyk | thanks! | 10:09 |
| bauzas | garyk: thank *you* for helping me to have all the existing merged patches having a relnote :) | 10:10 |
| paul-carlton2 | mdbooth: short meeting, my favourite type, I think your suggestions in paste are good, I just wonder about glance v libvirt copy | 10:10 |
| mdbooth | paul-carlton2: Are you aware of the issue there? | 10:10 |
| garyk | bauzas: thanks | 10:11 |
| paul-carlton2 | Driver may already have some interaction with glance but to my mind glance interaction should be driven my manager not driver, even if driver necessarily does work | 10:11 |
| paul-carlton2 | nope? | 10:12 |
| mdbooth | An image can be deleted while an instance is still using it. This means that when you migrate, the image may no longer be available at the destination. | 10:12 |
| mdbooth | So, this is already an issue, and there's already a solution to side-loading it. | 10:12 |
| mdbooth | The libvirt driver storage the image in the image cache, and the disk image as an overlay. | 10:12 |
| paul-carlton2 | also, once we hand this of to libvirt driver shouldn't just get it to copy what is needed from source to dest? | 10:12 |
| mdbooth | So the destination needs both. | 10:12 |
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| mdbooth | paul-carlton2: Yup. This is all libvirt driver at both source and dest. | 10:13 |
| paul-carlton2 | Yep, met that issue with live migration before | 10:13 |
| mdbooth | I noticed that we call the dest first, which is fortunate | 10:13 |
| paul-carlton2 | My thinking is that cold migration/resize should be able to get all data copied from source (even if image is not in glance it must be on source) to dest by libvirt | 10:14 |
| mdbooth | Because that means we can communicate to the source exactly what's needed on the dest, including the image | 10:14 |
| mdbooth | Yeah, the actual transfer mechanism is a detail | 10:14 |
| mdbooth | The difficult part is negotiating what's required and where to put it | 10:15 |
| paul-carlton2 | Agreed that if image underlay (per qcow2 images) is on dest we should skip the copy from source | 10:15 |
| mdbooth | Especially given that 1 side may not know anything about the negotiation mechanism | 10:15 |
| mdbooth | We need to decide how we're going to do shared storage detection | 10:16 |
| mdbooth | Although... I just had an epiphany :) | 10:16 |
| mdbooth | The dest will know if it's already got it | 10:16 |
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| mdbooth | Heuristics not required :) | 10:16 |
| mdbooth | That makes me happy | 10:16 |
| paul-carlton2 | I need to read up on this, my simplistic view of this was that we could get libvirt driver to do all the work here, i.e. simply tell it to copy contents of the instances volumes to target but maybe it is not that simply! | 10:17 |
| mdbooth | We can literally do that. But that's not the complicated part. | 10:17 |
| mdbooth | Ah... you mean as 1 single api call to libvirt? | 10:18 |
| pilgrimstack | So no multiple ssh keys for an instance managed in nova? | 10:18 |
| mdbooth | I don't think you can do that, and I don't think we'd be able to do that | 10:18 |
| paul-carlton2 | That was what I was hoping for! | 10:18 |
| mdbooth | Yes, no ssh keys is a key goal here | 10:19 |
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| paul-carlton2 | I suspected so, I need to lok at what apis are available for managing storage volumes, clearly you understand this better than I do! | 10:20 |
| pilgrimstack | mdbooth: You mean that in the future nova will not manage ssh keys? | 10:20 |
| mdbooth | pilgrimstack: It doesn't manage them now. Which is part of the problem :) | 10:21 |
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| mdbooth | Yes, the idea is cold migration/resize with not ssh requirement between compute hosts. | 10:21 |
| paul-carlton2 | agreed! | 10:21 |
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| paul-carlton2 | mdbooth: right now I'm trying to get a system working with libvirt 9.11.0 (Nova minimum required version) so I can investigate what can and can't be done with storage pools then we can start work on implementing use libvirt storage pools spec and the migrate libirt volumes spec too when approved, the latter depends on the former of course | 10:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: we maybe have bumped that libvirt minimum up slightly higher for mitaka now, danpb will probably remember the plan there | 10:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | I thought it was 1.x something for mitaka | 10:25 |
| mdbooth | paul-carlton2: So, I'm going to finish writing this. After we discussed it last week I was just going to submit it to your change for review, but as you've got traction on that I won't do that. It'll just be for our discussion. Or maybe a follow on. | 10:25 |
| paul-carlton2 | I have one ouf HPE's Linux gurus helping me get this version build and deployed on Debian based system | 10:26 |
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| mdbooth | johnthetubaguy: I don't remember when libvirt didn't support storage pools. It was many, many years ago. | 10:26 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: paul-carlton2: here we go: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LibvirtDistroSupportMatrix | 10:27 |
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| pilgrimstack | mdbooth: I was not talking about migration/resize, juste as a user, I want to: "nova boot —key-name key1 —key-name key2 —key-name keyN … myInstance | 10:27 |
| mdbooth | pilgrimstack: Ah, that's nothing to do with this spec. | 10:28 |
| pilgrimstack | yep :) | 10:28 |
| paul-carlton2 | I see that in the code it say 0.10.2 in M | 10:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: the spec claims it needed libvirt 1.0.5: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/mitaka/approved/use-libvirt-storage-pools.html#dependencies | 10:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: yep, that matches the wiki, 1.x is for N | 10:29 |
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| paul-carlton2 | So for any feature we implement in M we can assume 0.10.2? | 10:29 |
| garyk | bauzas: jenkinds has given his thumbs up for https://review.openstack.org/247705 | 10:29 |
| mdbooth | johnthetubaguy: Does it say why? It's probably proposing using 1 specific feature which is newer. Or perhaps the author just wrote that because that's what was current at the time? | 10:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: yes | 10:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: yes, I think its to simplify the XML generation, or something | 10:30 |
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| paul-carlton2 | Spec is wrong, there are comments to say we will stick with current minimum version on the spec or maybe on migrate libvirt volumes spec | 10:30 |
| mdbooth | So if we need to support something older (!) we can just not do that, I suppose | 10:30 |
| bauzas | garyk: coolness | 10:31 |
| garyk | :) | 10:31 |
| mdbooth | commit 7300f68dff671422caa44c22e4fb355715f21849 | 10:31 |
| mdbooth | Author: Daniel P. Berrange <berrange@redhat.com> | 10:31 |
| mdbooth | Date: Tue Jul 14 14:24:27 2009 +0100 | 10:31 |
| mdbooth | Add public APIs for storage volume upload/download | 10:31 |
| mdbooth | That's the commit which added virStorageVolUpload | 10:31 |
| mdbooth | In 2009 | 10:31 |
| paul-carlton2 | My understanding is that the storage pool stuff is supported by the current minimum version of libvirt so we should not require a higher version if we are making the default | 10:32 |
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| mdbooth | Hopefully even Ubuntu isn't shipping anything that old | 10:32 |
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| paul-carlton2 | I think it is acceptable to require a higher version in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232053/ (Migrate libvirt volumes) if need be because people can continue to use rsync if they don't have the required version? | 10:34 |
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| mdbooth | It has been present since v0.9.0 | 10:34 |
| mdbooth | Hmm, no, it must be before that | 10:35 |
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| mdbooth | Anyway, 0.9.0 was 2011 | 10:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I am hopefully I have found people to work on a little bit of tasks: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248248/2 does this clash with any spec you already have up? | 10:36 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: yeah saw that one, awesomeness ! | 10:37 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: honestly, I'm very tasked this cycle, so I'm really happy to see others picking some stuff from my manifesto | 10:37 |
| paul-carlton2 | johnthetubaguy: so I should work with 0.10.2 for implementation of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232045/ (use libvirt storage pools)? | 10:37 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: MHO is that I'll only have time this cycle for working on the Tasks objects | 10:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: I think thats a good choice, I guess and testing it with something new too, etc | 10:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: tasks objects? | 10:38 |
| paul-carlton2 | yep, agreed! | 10:38 |
| paul-carlton2 | ta | 10:38 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: the Tasks NovaObject spec that I have to write | 10:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: hmm, OK, not sure if thats a good place to focus, but I am not sure what it is yet! | 10:39 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: IMHO, we need to start working on multiple bits | 10:40 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: but that's debatable, hence my spec writign :) | 10:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: yeah, ping me when thats up, I will try jump on it | 10:40 |
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| mdbooth | danpb: virStorageVolUpload just uploads raw bits, right? So if we upload a qcow2 with a backing file, but the backing file is in a different place on the destination, we're going to have to explicitly rebase it? | 10:42 |
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| danpb | mdbooth: yeah, it is raw bits | 10:48 |
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| mdbooth | danpb: Thanks | 10:50 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: interesting spec about returning more BDM_v2 info to end users, curious about your opinion on this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239116/2 | 11:49 |
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| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, cool - will take a look! | 11:58 |
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| danpb | johnthetubaguy: are these dates finalized now https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Mitaka_Release_Schedule ? | 12:20 |
| danpb | the wiki has a caveat saying they are not... | 12:20 |
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| danpb | in particular are we definitely using Dec 3rd as deadline for people submitting specs for M | 12:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Juan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack/nova: Default personality/injected_files to empty list https://review.openstack.org/248662 | 12:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: refines the exceptions raised in the driver https://review.openstack.org/212102 | 12:49 |
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| jaypipes | sahid: bonjour! see my comment on https://github.com/jaypipes/os_vif/pull/17/files#r45582914 | 12:55 |
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| jaypipes | sahid: I'd like to bring in your unit tests at the very least. Do you mind putting those into a separate pull request? | 12:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Enhance value check for option notify_on_state_change https://review.openstack.org/242717 | 12:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Adds spec for instance live resize https://review.openstack.org/141219 | 12:58 |
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| chenli | hi everyone, if I want to change the content in doc.openstack.org/developer/nova/nova.concepts.html, what should I do ? | 13:01 |
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| chenli | because I can not find nova.concepts.rst anywhere. | 13:01 |
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| chenli | Anyone can help me ? | 13:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Check response headers for microversions https://review.openstack.org/248694 | 13:21 |
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| johnthetubaguy | chenli: what are you wanting to change? | 13:23 |
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| johnthetubaguy | chenli: the source is here: https://github.com/openstack/nova/tree/master/doc/source | 13:24 |
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| chenli | johnthetubaguy: one of my colleague told me there are some errors on the page, he want to correct them... | 13:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | chenli: its very possible that its an old cached page | 13:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | chenli: there are some issues with publishing. | 13:24 |
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| chenli | johnthetubaguy: this page should be removed, right ? because I couldn't find it in nova | 13:25 |
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| johnthetubaguy | chenli: yes, could you please reach out to folks in #openstack-infra, and I think they will be able to help | 13:26 |
| chenli | johnthetubaguy: sure! I will do it soon. | 13:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | chenli: thank you | 13:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | chenli: its possible the issues might still be present in the current docs, all linked from: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/ | 13:27 |
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| bauzas | chenli: we had an issue with the old stale content | 13:31 |
| bauzas | chenli: the old pages were having the /devref path | 13:31 |
| chenli | bauzas: what is " /devref " ? | 13:31 |
| bauzas | chenli: when we changed the root structure, all the pages moved one level up, but the /devref directory wasn't flushed | 13:31 |
| bauzas | chenli: the old path for getting the nova docs | 13:32 |
| bauzas | chenli: so eg. http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/devref/filter_scheduler.html | 13:32 |
| chenli | bauzas: o.. so actually all pages under /devref should be removed, right ? | 13:32 |
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| bauzas | chenli: since we can't remove old files, we decided with -infra to provide an .htaccess file which would redirect any /devref/(.*) to /$1 | 13:33 |
| bauzas | chenli: that allowed us to prevent showing the old content | 13:33 |
| bauzas | without changing the URLs | 13:34 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: this was a different one, seems like its some stale page that still lives | 13:34 |
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| chenli | bauzas: why we can't remove old files ? | 13:34 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: agreed, I'm just explaining that we can't remove | 13:35 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Not transform to str on potential unicode fields https://review.openstack.org/248626 | 13:35 |
| bauzas | chenli: so, you should rather ask -infra to put an .htaccess rule for http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/nova.concepts.html which would 302 to / | 13:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: ah, gotcah | 13:35 |
| bauzas | (well, rather /developer/nova/) | 13:35 |
| chenli | bauzas: why we can't remove old files ? | 13:36 |
| bauzas | chenli: or better, you should find a current file which presents the same content, and redirect that old URL to that new file | 13:36 |
| bauzas | chenli: it's because we only push incrementally AFAIK | 13:36 |
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| bauzas | chenli: removing a file would require some infra root access to the box itself | 13:36 |
| chenli | bauzas: o, understand! | 13:37 |
| bauzas | well, to the box(es) even | 13:37 |
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| bauzas | chenli: so I would recommend to HTTP302 to http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/project_scope.html | 13:38 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: thoughts ? ^ | 13:38 |
| bauzas | or | 13:39 |
| bauzas | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/architecture.html | 13:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add detail to libvirt-storage-pools https://review.openstack.org/248705 | 13:40 |
| mdbooth | johnthetubaguy PaulMurray paul-carlton: https://review.openstack.org/248705 | 13:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: just going to the root makes sense, its easy | 13:41 |
| mdbooth | This is a proposed update to the approved storage pools spec, which describes how we'd actually go about creating a storage volume on host B from host A | 13:41 |
| mdbooth | I think it's harder part of the problem, requiring the most care at this stage | 13:41 |
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| lxsli | johnthetubaguy: mind if I poke you re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206070/ ? | 13:42 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: fair enough :) | 13:42 |
| bauzas | chenli: are you in -infra? | 13:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | lxsli: sorry yeah, I must look at that, just came back to mind given the above conversation, but stuck in spec land mostly | 13:43 |
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| chenli | bauzas: yes, I'm in infra channel. I post the doc link, but no one reply me . :( | 13:43 |
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| bauzas | chenli: so here is the example for the old devref stuff that I mentioned https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230439/ | 13:45 |
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| bauzas | chenli: you should just write a new one and ping that one in -docs rather | 13:45 |
| chenli | bauzas: o ! So i just need to write a patch ! | 13:45 |
| chenli | bauzas: get that ! Thanks! | 13:45 |
| bauzas | chenli: and ping folks in #openstack-doc | 13:46 |
| bauzas | infra is not related to that | 13:46 |
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| chenli | bauzas: sure ! | 13:46 |
| bauzas | chenli: np | 13:47 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: when you're around and free, I'm taking a ticket for discussing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221280/5/doc/source/tasks.rst,cm | 13:47 |
| bauzas | :) | 13:48 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: I'd like to know what you felt unclear - except the typos of course) | 13:48 |
| chenli | one more question, anyone can help me review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246274/ | 13:48 |
| PaulMurray | mdbooth, looking - thanks | 13:48 |
| chenli | I picked it up from others change . | 13:48 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: "That way, we should also think about providing a backwards compatibility with the instance actions API which should be deprecated, by thinking about which task should be provided as an action and which one is just a child one." | 13:52 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. | 13:52 |
| bauzas | a-ha I see | 13:52 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: btw. are you using the new Gerrit UI view ? | 13:52 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: and neither does this: "That said, we think that just making sure that previous actions are at least creating a task leaves the Tasks API quite identical to instance actions, until we decide to refine those tasks and set some subtasks every time it's needed (like adding a subtask for creating networks related to the bigger instance creation task)." | 13:53 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: no, I hate the new view.. | 13:53 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: you can highlight some text by pushing 'c' | 13:53 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: ack, I see | 13:53 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: I guess you disagree more on the idea than on the phrasing, right? | 13:54 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: ie. you don't see why we should provide a compat layer between actions API and tasks ? | 13:54 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: correct. I do not see a need to have a compat layer. | 13:54 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: okay, I see your point then | 13:54 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: I feel that as being a detail that would be covered at a spec level, not in that big document | 13:55 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: but you're probably right | 13:55 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: I mean, we can consider that instance actions and tasks are 2 different things | 13:55 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: so, I'll remove those 2 sentences and only leave the comment that the relationship between tasks and instance actions will be left discussed in the spec | 13:57 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: fair enough ? | 13:57 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: good with me. :) | 13:57 |
| bauzas | ack | 13:57 |
| bauzas | respinning now then | 13:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Manifesto for working on Tasks https://review.openstack.org/221280 | 14:01 |
| n0ano | bauzas, jaypipes scheduler meeting? | 14:02 |
| bauzas | oh snap | 14:02 |
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| jaypipes | n0ano: on a call, srry :( | 14:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Juan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack/nova: Default personality/injected_files to empty list https://review.openstack.org/248662 | 14:10 |
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| sahid | jaypipes: let me fix the pep8 thing, like that you can take the whole PR | 14:21 |
| jaypipes | sahid: cool, thank you sir :) | 14:21 |
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| mdbooth | Is the ugliness of this page a testament to restructured text: http://docutils.sourceforge.net/rst.html ? | 14:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Adds spec for exposing host capabilities https://review.openstack.org/222200 | 14:28 |
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| dansmith | BobBall: cool, thanks | 14:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova-specs: Cancel ongoing live migrations https://review.openstack.org/228828 | 14:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Adds spec for exposing host capabilities https://review.openstack.org/222200 | 14:43 |
| sahid | jaypipes: done | 14:45 |
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| claudiub | jaypipes: hello. There was a discussion at the summit about "exposing host capabilities". Could you take a look at the spec ^ ? | 14:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add detail to libvirt-storage-pools https://review.openstack.org/248705 | 14:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Murray proposed openstack/nova: Fix resource tracker VCPU counting https://review.openstack.org/248742 | 14:57 |
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| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, bauzas jaypipes - see ^^ - noticed while digging around with devstack that vcpus were being double counted (gulp!) | 14:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Move Process and Mentoring pages to devref https://review.openstack.org/206070 | 14:58 |
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| jaypipes | PaulMurray: will review shortly. | 15:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add xenapi support for XenapiLiveMigrateData objects https://review.openstack.org/247853 | 15:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make libvirt driver return migrate data objects for source and dest checks https://review.openstack.org/247720 | 15:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Actually pass the migration data object down to the virt drivers https://review.openstack.org/248211 | 15:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add transitional support for migrate data objects to compute manager https://review.openstack.org/247719 | 15:03 |
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| tdurakov_ | paul-carlton2, ping | 15:04 |
| mriedem | dansmith: were you going to create a bp for those live migration object changes? | 15:06 |
| mriedem | specless i think | 15:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Fixed incorrect name of 'tag' and 'tag-any' filters https://review.openstack.org/235801 | 15:06 |
| paul-carlton2 | hi | 15:06 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I think I was going to ask johnthetubaguy | 15:06 |
| dansmith | but yeah, happy to | 15:06 |
| dansmith | I'm just trying to make them work | 15:06 |
| paul-carlton2 | hi tdurakov_: | 15:07 |
| tdurakov_ | paul-carlton2, left a comment for the spec, please fix this, big +1 then:) | 15:07 |
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| paul-carlton2 | This text refers to the exception code not something returned by API | 15:09 |
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| paul-carlton2 | That paragraph is the start of the bit of the spec that describes what the compute manager does when it processes the async call received from API server | 15:10 |
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| tdurakov_ | paul-carlton2, yes, that's why i think that status code 400 is redundant | 15:10 |
| danpb | b | 15:10 |
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| paul-carlton2 | I added this text to address Jay's concerns, maybe I'm reading code wrong but it seems to me this is what other ops do when they fail, generate an exception which is passed to instance action event create as a fault | 15:11 |
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| paul-carlton2 | Then that code looks for the code attribute and uses it in the error message it generates, same for notifications, am I mis understandiing this | 15:13 |
| tdurakov_ | paul-carlton2, could you provide some link for this? | 15:13 |
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| jaypipes | paul-carlton2: right, but a 400 Bad Request is *not* returned from the original POST /servers/{server}/actions call. | 15:13 |
| tdurakov_ | paul-carlton2, are you describing an exception object attribute here? | 15:15 |
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| paul-carlton2 | yes | 15:17 |
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| paul-carlton2 | Actually can't find anywhere in compute manage where it is explicitly used in compute manager so maybe I should take it out? | 15:19 |
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| tdurakov_ | paul-carlton2, i've checked code for live-migration and resize. exceptions for these operations are inherited from NovaException, and doesn't override status code, which equals 500. I think you should do the same, what do you think? | 15:22 |
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| tdurakov_ | jaypipes, would you be ok with this too?^ i guess it's optimal solution for this case | 15:23 |
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| jaypipes | tdurakov, paul-carlton2: it's all about the HTTP response code from the original call to POST /servers/{server}/action. That needs to always be 202 Accepted, and never 400 Bad Request. I apologize for causing confusion on this. | 15:24 |
| paul-carlton2 | fine by me, but I maybe misunderstood him but jaypipes said it should be 400 not 501 | 15:24 |
| paul-carlton2 | i.e. 99:Note this should be a 400 Bad Request, with an error message in the body about the operation not being supported. This should *not* return a 501 Not Implemented HTTP result code | 15:24 |
| paul-carlton2 | but maybe he thought I was returning this form API not generating an exception? | 15:25 |
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| paul-carlton2 | ok, so I'll load an new patch set with... | 15:26 |
| paul-carlton2 | If the driver is unable | 15:26 |
| paul-carlton2 | to perform this operation a new exception called | 15:26 |
| paul-carlton2 | 'AbortMigrationNotSupported' will be returned. | 15:26 |
| jaypipes | paul-carlton2: I forgot that this call was async -- i.e. 202 Accepted, not 201 Created or 200 OK. Please disregard my comment. This should always return a 202 Accepted, and if the underlying hypervisor driver does not support the abort live migration, then it should add an instance action that shows an error state. | 15:26 |
| paul-carlton2 | no mention of status code | 15:26 |
| paul-carlton2 | we are on same page I think | 15:26 |
| jaypipes | k | 15:27 |
| tdurakov_ | paul-carlton2, jaypipes, I think everyone are happy now. thank you, folks! | 15:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova-specs: Cancel ongoing live migrations https://review.openstack.org/228828 | 15:27 |
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| markus_z | powervm is still out-of-tree, right? There is a bug report which mentions the driver and I'm not sure what to do with it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1514437 | 15:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1514437 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "vif unplug is invoked after vm delete" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 15:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/nova-specs: Tenant networking support for Ironic driver. https://review.openstack.org/237067 | 15:32 |
| andreykurilin | mriedem: hi! | 15:32 |
| jroll | mriedem: ^ hope that makes more sense | 15:32 |
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| andreykurilin | mriedem: I have a patch to novaclient, which I want to propose to merge until new release:) Can you look at it? https://review.openstack.org/248694 | 15:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add xenapi support for XenapiLiveMigrateData objects https://review.openstack.org/247853 | 15:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make libvirt driver return migrate data objects for source and dest checks https://review.openstack.org/247720 | 15:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Actually pass the migration data object down to the virt drivers https://review.openstack.org/248211 | 15:33 |
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| mriedem | andreykurilin: for novaclient 3.0 you mean? | 15:34 |
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| andreykurilin | mriedem: yes. it looks like you don't release it yet | 15:35 |
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| jroll | mriedem: also, abandoning a patch until the spec is approved? isn't that what -2 is for? :| | 15:39 |
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| mriedem | andreykurilin: so you want to give a warning if they are using nova v2.0? | 15:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Add FK bw_usage_cache.uuid -> instances.uuid https://review.openstack.org/248780 | 15:41 |
| andreykurilin | mriedem: not exactly. in case of python-novaclient as cli, we have version negotiation and user will not able to use microversion for nova v2.0, but when novaclient is used as a lib, user can create client object with 2.6(for example) version and tries to communicate with nova v2.0. for the last use case I want to add warning | 15:42 |
| lxsli | mriedem: ^^ | 15:42 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs: Remove flavor from scheduler request https://review.openstack.org/189444 | 15:42 |
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| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: you okay with a specless bp for the migrate-data objectification I am doing? | 15:46 |
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| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: was going to tuck it into the general objects one, but mriedem thinks it should be a separate bp, under the live migration priority I guess | 15:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: I am happy with either, will approve a new spec-less BP if that helps with the tracking | 15:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/nova-specs: Tenant networking support for Ironic driver. https://review.openstack.org/237067 | 15:48 |
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| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: okay, well two +0s and one +1 for the specless, so I guess we do that | 15:48 |
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| gibi | alex_xu: hi! you had concerns about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243562/ Remove onSharedStorage from evacuate API. I answered them in the | 15:49 |
| gibi | review. | 15:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Guryanov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add nova volume driver for vzstorage https://review.openstack.org/190843 | 15:55 |
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| dane-fichter | has anyone here written a functional test? I'm having trouble getting mine to use the actual Nova API, libvirt driver, and LVM driver | 15:55 |
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| tojuvone | dansmith: Can I ask some implementation specific question for get-valid-server-state, or just put the question in review? | 15:58 |
| dansmith | tojuvone: I'm about to join a call.. how about put the question in the review and then ping me here in an hour and I'll go look? | 15:58 |
| sahid | dane-fichter: if that can help i added some tests here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197569/15/nova/tests/functional/libvirt/test_rt_servers.py,cm | 15:59 |
| tojuvone | ok, I'll try to be back here then :) | 15:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Check response headers for microversions https://review.openstack.org/248694 | 16:01 |
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| dane-fichter | sahid: so you're using fakelibvirt and the fixture API, correct? The feature I need to test has code in both the Nova API and the libvirt driver | 16:01 |
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| dane-fichter | sahid: any idea how to set up a test case to use those? | 16:01 |
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| gibi | dansmith: hi! do you have a minute? I have some question regarding Service.version handling | 16:06 |
| dansmith | gibi: on a call, ping me in +54 minutes | 16:06 |
| gibi | dansmith: OK, I will try tomorrow as in+54 minute I won't be available. | 16:07 |
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| dansmith | gibi: okay | 16:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/nova: Adding a new vnic_type for Ironic/Neutron/Nova integration https://review.openstack.org/213264 | 16:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/nova: Allow virt driver to define binding:host_id https://review.openstack.org/194413 | 16:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/nova: Update ironic virt driver to use portgroups https://review.openstack.org/206163 | 16:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Unify on _schedule_instances https://review.openstack.org/219761 | 16:19 |
| lxsli | bauzas: TODO << https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219761/ please | 16:19 |
| bauzas | lxsli: on a call till 1700UTC, could you please ping me then ? | 16:20 |
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| lxsli | bauzas: OK! | 16:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Add persistence to the RequestSpec object https://review.openstack.org/211753 | 16:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Rework 'limited' and 'get_limit_and_marker' https://review.openstack.org/241361 | 16:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Added db API layer to add instance tag-list filtering support https://review.openstack.org/248805 | 16:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Added server tags support in nova-api https://review.openstack.org/128940 | 16:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Maxime Leroy proposed openstack/nova: Libvirt: Support fp plug in vhostuser vif https://review.openstack.org/245369 | 16:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Maxime Leroy proposed openstack/nova: Libvirt: Support ovs fp plug in vhostuser vif https://review.openstack.org/237680 | 16:40 |
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| lxsli | sdague: can I use today's cookie on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248780/ please? | 16:44 |
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| edleafe | lxsli: you get cookies?? | 16:45 |
| lxsli | edleafe: I'm forcing myself to poke people more | 16:45 |
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| mriedem | ctrath: i like johnthetubaguy's alternative in the neutron limits proxy spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206735/ - basically in a microversion, just omit those resources from the response | 16:51 |
| mriedem | and we doc anything before that microversion saying it's not valid if you're using neutron | 16:51 |
| ctrath | mriedem: ok, I will rework the spec and follow that approach.. thanks | 16:52 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214021/ | 16:53 |
| mriedem | i think you meant stuck there, but the other word might have been subconscious :) | 16:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Arun Kant proposed openstack/nova: Fix for barbican endpoint discovery with service catalog case https://review.openstack.org/243322 | 16:54 |
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| lxsli | Anyone who can tell me about api migrations? Or point me to doc? | 16:54 |
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| mriedem | lxsli: they are just like regular db migrations, but on the API database | 16:55 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: oops, yeah | 16:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Arun Kant proposed openstack/nova: Fix for barbican endpoint discovery with service catalog case https://review.openstack.org/243322 | 16:56 |
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| lxsli | mriedem: I guess regular migrs are also applied to API DB? | 16:57 |
| mriedem | lxsli: no | 16:57 |
| mriedem | different schema | 16:57 |
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| lxsli | mriedem: OK thanks | 16:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Config options: centralize section "scheduler" https://review.openstack.org/245891 | 17:03 |
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| lxsli | bauzas: TODO << https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219761/ please | 17:07 |
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| bauzas | lxsli: ok, in my queue | 17:10 |
| bauzas | lxsli: I spotted that one, that sounds reasonable | 17:10 |
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| lxsli | cool, thanks | 17:10 |
| bauzas | lxsli: you would just create a merge issue on my own series, but that's fair :) | 17:11 |
| bauzas | :D | 17:11 |
| lxsli | C'est la vie OpenStack | 17:11 |
| lxsli | ... pardon my Franglais | 17:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Murray proposed openstack/nova: docs: update the concept guide shelve actions https://review.openstack.org/246976 | 17:14 |
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| rlrossit | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245327/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245336/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245344/ | 17:18 |
| rlrossit | ^ here's a few changes with a bunch of delete if cores want to take a look :) | 17:18 |
| BobBall | h | 17:18 |
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| jaypipes | BobBall: j | 17:18 |
| BobBall | you win :( | 17:19 |
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| lxsli | rlrossit: bold move, I usually spread mine out through the day :o | 17:19 |
| BobBall | I assumed no one would think of a letter higher than h, but then you went and did it. Congratulations jaypipes. | 17:19 |
| rlrossit | lxsli: they're all literally the exact same thing, just divided between 3 | 17:19 |
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| lxsli | looking now, nice stuff :o | 17:20 |
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| jaypipes | BobBall: :P | 17:20 |
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| rlrossit | lxsli: easy, weren't they ;) | 17:24 |
| lxsli | rlrossit: reviewstats++ | 17:24 |
| lxsli | rlrossit: or as mikal would say - I like your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter | 17:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Unify on _schedule_instances https://review.openstack.org/219761 | 17:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Add requested_destination to RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/248833 | 17:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Only consider requested_destination https://review.openstack.org/248833 | 17:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Juan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack/nova: Set personality/injected_files to empty list if not specified https://review.openstack.org/248662 | 17:41 |
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| lxsli | bauzas: persist-request-spec has taken an interesting turn in that the request spec will only be held in the API DB. Do you know how the conductor is supposed to get hold of it please? | 17:43 |
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| lxsli | dansmith: ^^ | 17:50 |
| dansmith | lxsli: why does conductor need to get a hold of it? | 17:50 |
| lxsli | dansmith: for bp check-destination-on-migrations, I need to set requested_destination into RequestSpec when a live-migrate or evacuate action is processed | 17:50 |
| lxsli | dansmith: I might be able to do that in nova/conductor/api.py instead but currently there's virtually no code there so I wanted to check how I'm supposed to do this | 17:51 |
| dansmith | lxsli: right, but that gets initiated from the api, which means it could query the object and pass it down to the conductor right? | 17:52 |
| lxsli | OK, I can do that, thanks | 17:52 |
| tojuvone | dansmith: You're back :) I put kids to watch TV before going to bed, so I have my own quality time :D | 17:53 |
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| dansmith | tojuvone: yep | 17:53 |
| dansmith | tojuvone: link me? | 17:53 |
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| tojuvone | dansmith: https://review.openstack.org/241562/ | 17:54 |
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| edleafe | dansmith: question on the config option for version caps. How/when would this be used by operators? | 17:54 |
| edleafe | dansmith: e.g.: CONF.upgrade_levels.scheduler | 17:55 |
| dansmith | tojuvone: yeah, so, expected_attrs should go down to the db api to make sure the service objects gets joined and returned | 17:55 |
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| dansmith | tojuvone: then call the is_up() method on the result as you say | 17:56 |
| dansmith | tojuvone: presumably you only need to do that if the host is not forced down | 17:56 |
| dansmith | edleafe: "when" is during an upgrade when you have different versions of nova running on nodes, although that can't currently happen with scheduler | 17:57 |
| dansmith | edleafe: and how is setting that option to either a specific version or a release alias like "kilo" | 17:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Modify VM's updated_at field on volume actions https://review.openstack.org/247176 | 17:58 |
| edleafe | dansmith: thanks. So in the scheduler case, the target version is set to 4.0, but both the kilo and liberty aliases are 4.2 | 17:58 |
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| edleafe | dansmith: not sure how those two values interact | 17:59 |
| dansmith | edleafe: you mean the target base | 17:59 |
| edleafe | yeah | 17:59 |
| dansmith | that's unrelated to the version cap | 17:59 |
| tojuvone | dansmith: yes, so just need to access sg api from there then.. if not disabled or forced_down. I think I know, just need to figure out that DB stuff | 17:59 |
| edleafe | is that always a major version (n.0)? | 17:59 |
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| dansmith | tojuvone: yep | 18:02 |
| dansmith | edleafe: is what? | 18:02 |
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| dansmith | edleafe: the base is yes | 18:02 |
| edleafe | dansmith: sorry, the target version | 18:03 |
| dansmith | edleafe: you're talking about this right? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/rpcapi.py#L112-L112 | 18:03 |
| edleafe | dansmith: yes | 18:03 |
| dansmith | edleafe: it doesn't have to be, but we always do, yes | 18:04 |
| dansmith | if it wasn't it would kindof break the sem part of that mostly-semver version number | 18:04 |
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| edleafe | dansmith: ok, thanks. Trying to understand this better so I can write the improved docs for the config options | 18:04 |
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| dansmith | the target base is not something that any user will ever know about and thus shouldn't be part of those docs | 18:05 |
| tojuvone | dansmith: Thanks :) | 18:05 |
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| edleafe | dansmith: understood (now :) | 18:07 |
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| lxsli | dansmith: following on from that... if conductor needs to save the request_spec, it has to pass it back to the API and ask it to save it? | 18:07 |
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| lxsli | dansmith: actually nvm I think I need to talk with bauzas | 18:08 |
| lxsli | a lot has changed since his spec was written | 18:08 |
| lxsli | goodnight! | 18:08 |
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| dansmith | lxsli: if it did, we'd make it talk direct, just not sure if we need that | 18:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Check response headers for microversions https://review.openstack.org/248694 | 18:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Murray proposed openstack/nova: docs: describe migration and other movement concepts https://review.openstack.org/247016 | 18:14 |
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| lifeless | hey, can I get some eyeballs on http://logs.openstack.org/05/248505/1/check/gate-nova-python27-constraints/7fba314/testr_results.html.gz | 18:16 |
| lifeless | its failures in objects tests | 18:16 |
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| lifeless | when run with the dependency versions in upper-constraints.txt, vs absolute-latest | 18:17 |
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| lifeless | I *think* it probably means the minimum-version of oslo.versionedobjects is too low, but - seeking confirmation (from someone more familiar with nova) | 18:17 |
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| mriedem | the tests might be assuming 0.13.0 | 18:18 |
| mriedem | there were some changes last week to the objects unit tests, checking to see if it's related to these failing tests | 18:18 |
| dansmith | is this on stable? | 18:18 |
| mriedem | dansmith: it is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248505/ | 18:18 |
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| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246022/2/nova/tests/unit/objects/test_objects.py | 18:20 |
| dansmith | mriedem: lifeless: the desired approach would be to not raise them minimum on stable right? | 18:20 |
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| lifeless | dansmith: master | 18:20 |
| dansmith | oh | 18:20 |
| lifeless | we're prepping to enable constraints for nova | 18:20 |
| mriedem | the logs are for 248505 | 18:20 |
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| mriedem | which is a stable/liberty change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248505/ | 18:20 |
| dansmith | I'm confused | 18:21 |
| mriedem | min g-r for ovo on master is 0.13.0 | 18:21 |
| lifeless | mhuh | 18:21 |
| mriedem | capped at 0.12.0 in stable/liberty https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/stable/liberty/upper-constraints.txt#L203 | 18:21 |
| lifeless | oh, Nakato didn't mention the branch and I assumed master | 18:21 |
| lifeless | but we do indeed want both stable/liberty and master to be enabled for constraints | 18:21 |
| mriedem | which is why the backport to stable/liberty to fix unit tests based on 0.13.0 is failing for 0.12.0 | 18:21 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246022/2/nova/tests/unit/objects/test_objects.py | 18:21 |
| lifeless | dansmith: I'd made an assumption that led me to confuse you :) | 18:22 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: so, wait, we were failing on stable with 0.13 which is why we backported that change, so now we're failing on 0.12, is that right? | 18:22 |
| mriedem | dansmith: we were failing the voting normal py unit test jobs | 18:23 |
| mriedem | against 0.13.0 | 18:23 |
| dansmith | right | 18:23 |
| mriedem | this fixed that | 18:23 |
| dansmith | right | 18:23 |
| mriedem | but the constraints job pins ovo at 0.12.0 | 18:23 |
| lifeless | dansmith: yes, we're failing on 0.12, which is what liberty was released with | 18:23 |
| dansmith | it's failing because of a relatively silly test fixture thing | 18:24 |
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| dansmith | so what is the desired output? make liberty work with 0.12 and cap it there, or let it work with 0.13? | 18:24 |
| lifeless | ideally both | 18:24 |
| dansmith | it's going to be annoying to make it work on both just because of a test fixture | 18:24 |
| mriedem | i'd prefer to not raise the minimum required ovo in stable | 18:24 |
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| lifeless | can we version check the ovo version ? | 18:25 |
| lifeless | in the tests? | 18:25 |
| dansmith | that sounds gross | 18:25 |
| dansmith | it's not really o.vo's fault, | 18:25 |
| dansmith | it's just nova's tests jumping through some hoops | 18:25 |
| lifeless | yeah | 18:25 |
| dansmith | lifeless: if I cook up a change to the tests can you run on both versions easily? | 18:26 |
| lifeless | ovo isn't buggy; nova's test want to psass | 18:26 |
| dansmith | meaning is it just a check-experimental thing? | 18:26 |
| lifeless | dansmith: yes, jenkins will do that for you | 18:26 |
| dansmith | okay | 18:26 |
| lifeless | dansmith: not even that just automatic now | 18:26 |
| mriedem | dansmith: or just make it depend on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248505/ | 18:26 |
| dansmith | give me a sec | 18:26 |
| mriedem | lifeless: wouldn't he need these parts? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248505/1/tox.ini | 18:26 |
| lifeless | oh yeah, needs a Depends-On | 18:26 |
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| lifeless | mriedem: sorry, its 0730 and my brain is still warming up | 18:27 |
| mriedem | that's ok, it's 1230 for me and i'm still in a fog | 18:27 |
| lifeless | we're probably going to have to squash the two commits together | 18:27 |
| lifeless | erm, no we won't. | 18:28 |
| mriedem | the constraints one is non-voting | 18:28 |
| lifeless | I'm going to go get some air and try to wake up | 18:28 |
| mriedem | heh | 18:28 |
| dansmith | er, hang on | 18:28 |
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| dansmith | maybe just backporting the cleanup from master would do it | 18:29 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: lifeless: https://review.openstack.org/248869 | 18:32 |
| dansmith | that's the low-hanging potential fix.. if that doesn't do it I'll probably have to get more creative | 18:32 |
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| lifeless | dansmith: cool, thanks | 18:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/nova: Ironic: Lightweight fetching of nodes https://review.openstack.org/221057 | 18:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/nova: Ironic: Add support for microversion https://review.openstack.org/221848 | 18:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Guryanov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add nova volume driver for vzstorage https://review.openstack.org/190843 | 18:37 |
| * lucasagomes forgot a detail... | 18:37 | |
| openstackgerrit | Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/nova: Ironic: Lightweight fetching of nodes https://review.openstack.org/221057 | 18:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/nova: Ironic: Add support for microversion https://review.openstack.org/221848 | 18:38 |
| bauzas | lxsli: dansmith: so, saw your discussion | 18:40 |
| bauzas | lxsli: dansmith: to be clear, I wrote the spec by not thinking about cells v2 | 18:41 |
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| bauzas | lxsli: dansmith: so I was thinking about updating the object by the conductor | 18:41 |
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| bauzas | lxsli: dansmith: but we can surely think about how to persist within a cells V2 api | 18:42 |
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| bauzas | I would love to see alaski_'s thoughts tho | 18:42 |
| dansmith | bauzas: yeah, we can certainly call from a cell conductor back up, I'm just not sure we need to | 18:42 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: yeah I need to think more about when to call/persist the object | 18:43 |
| bauzas | dansmith: the current request_spec dict is created by the conductor, but we could perhaps change that | 18:44 |
| bauzas | dansmith: it would then need to change the conductor API tho | 18:44 |
| bauzas | IIRC, the filter_props are a bit created by the API | 18:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: refines the exceptions raised in the driver https://review.openstack.org/212102 | 18:44 |
| dansmith | bauzas: I forget if alaski_ is planning for us to run a conductor in the api | 18:44 |
| bauzas | dansmith: that's a discussion we had - but I don't remember any outcome | 18:45 |
| dansmith | me either | 18:45 |
| bauzas | dansmith: I mean, we were thinking about that, but not really saying yes or no | 18:45 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: ugh, I'll start trying to repro locally and see what I come up with | 18:49 |
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| mriedem | ok | 18:50 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: you know what, | 18:55 |
| dansmith | these tests don't even need to be in nova | 18:55 |
| dansmith | they're testing the object repository, which all lives in o.vo now | 18:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Chuck Carmack proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Remove python 2.6 support from python-novaclient https://review.openstack.org/248874 | 18:55 |
| dansmith | mriedem: so how about I just rip them out of master and we just backport that? | 18:56 |
| mriedem | sounds ok to me | 18:56 |
| dansmith | silly because we just merged my fix to make them work, but I just wasn't thinking | 18:56 |
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| lifeless | mriedem: dansmith: thanks heaps for te help on this | 19:00 |
| lifeless | *the* | 19:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Remove the TestRemoteObject class https://review.openstack.org/248875 | 19:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Roman Podoliaka proposed openstack/nova: servicegroup: ensure state reporting thread does not die prematurely https://review.openstack.org/247552 | 19:05 |
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| dansmith | lifeless: https://review.openstack.org/248877 | 19:06 |
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| jaypipes | lifeless, sdague: hi. how can I run a single unit test file? http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/unit_tests.html instructions do not work... | 19:10 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: tox -r -e py27 -- nova.tests.unit.objects.test_objects | 19:10 |
| * jaypipes used to be able to do this with ./run_tests.sh -V <name of test file> | 19:10 | |
| jaypipes | mriedem: doesn't work. runs all tests. | 19:10 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: all tests in the test_objects module? | 19:11 |
| mriedem | or all unit tests, period | 19:11 |
| jaypipes | all tests entirely. | 19:11 |
| mriedem | what version of tox/testr? | 19:11 |
| mriedem | and testtools | 19:11 |
| jaypipes | jaypipes@uberbox:~/repos/nova$ tox --version | 19:11 |
| jaypipes | 2.1.1 imported from /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/tox/__init__.py | 19:11 |
| bauzas | lxsli: what the heck did you rebased https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219761/13 on top of persist_reqspec? | 19:11 |
| bauzas | :) | 19:11 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: testr takes a regex | 19:11 |
| bauzas | lxsli: we could have landed that one | 19:12 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: it's easy to get it to run one thing | 19:12 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: missing the double dash -- perhaps? | 19:12 |
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| mriedem | jaypipes: trunk nova? | 19:12 |
| jaypipes | dansmith, mriedem: I've tried both of the following against trunk nova: | 19:12 |
| jaypipes | tox -epy34 test_tracker | 19:12 |
| jaypipes | tox -py34 -- test_tracker | 19:12 |
| mriedem | i have tox 2.2.1 | 19:12 |
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| jaypipes | tox -epy34 -- test_tracker | 19:13 |
| jaypipes | both of those run all unit tests | 19:13 |
| dansmith | that's weird | 19:13 |
| mriedem | what is test_tracker? | 19:13 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: nova/tests/unit/compute/test_tracker.py | 19:13 |
| mriedem | so run: tox -r -e py34 -- nova.tests.unit.compute.test_tracker | 19:14 |
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| dansmith | or just test_tracker | 19:14 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: the -r refreshes the venv, yeah? any other reason to use -r? | 19:14 |
| mriedem | just for the rebuild of the venv | 19:14 |
| mriedem | in case you have old testr/testtools | 19:14 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: oh, and I tried -- nova.tests.unit.compute.test_tracker. still runs all tests. | 19:14 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: it's not even passing the posargs to the testr runner... | 19:15 |
| mriedem | it's probably the py34 target in tox.ini | 19:15 |
| mriedem | it has non-default things in it | 19:15 |
| mriedem | for blacklisting tests and such | 19:15 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: Ran: 29 tests in 17.0000 sec. | 19:15 |
| dansmith | tox -epy27 -- test_tracker | 19:16 |
| mriedem | so it's probably a problem in how our py34 testenv is defined | 19:16 |
| mriedem | dansmith: yeah, py27 shouldn't have a problem | 19:16 |
| mriedem | it's the wonky py34 testenv | 19:16 |
| dansmith | pretty sure it's worked for me in py34, but trying now | 19:16 |
| * jaypipes just enjoying the plethora of debug and stderr warning output from the test run... | 19:17 | |
| jaypipes | Ran: 7847 tests in 89.1110 sec. | 19:17 |
| mriedem | guys, it's blacklisted for py34 | 19:17 |
| mriedem | nova.tests.unit.compute.test_tracker.TestInitComputeNode | 19:17 |
| mriedem | nova.tests.unit.compute.test_tracker.TestInstanceClaim | 19:17 |
| mriedem | nova.tests.unit.compute.test_tracker.TestMoveClaim | 19:17 |
| mriedem | nova.tests.unit.compute.test_tracker.TestUpdateAvailableResources | 19:17 |
| mriedem | nova.tests.unit.compute.test_tracker.TestUpdateComputeNode | 19:17 |
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| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/tox.ini#L50 | 19:17 |
| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/tests-py3.txt#L178-L182 | 19:17 |
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| mriedem | so uncomment the blacklist | 19:18 |
| jaypipes | hmm, I wonder why it's blacklisted... | 19:18 |
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| mriedem | not py34 compliant yet | 19:18 |
| mriedem | i guess... | 19:18 |
| mriedem | or it is and no one has removed that | 19:18 |
| mriedem | you can be the first to try :) | 19:18 |
| dansmith | the test run/setup seems much slower for me under py3 so I never do it unless I need to specifically validate something on py3 | 19:18 |
| mriedem | same here | 19:19 |
| mriedem | i let jenkins do that work for me | 19:19 |
| jaypipes | good to know. | 19:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chuck Carmack proposed openstack/nova: Disable security group tests in tempest-dsvm-cells-rc using a config option https://review.openstack.org/226043 | 19:21 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem, dansmith: yeah, that's better.. Ran: 31 tests in 17.0000 sec. | 19:23 |
| ccarmack | mriedem? | 19:24 |
| mriedem | ccarmack: i'm reviewing the novaclient change now | 19:24 |
| ccarmack | question about it - should we "announce" this change somewhere? | 19:24 |
| mriedem | ccarmack: so i was looking at the novaclient changelog, which is really out of date | 19:25 |
| mriedem | i'm thinking we should integrate reno into novaclient at some point for stuff like this | 19:25 |
| ccarmack | mriedem: Should I do a separate change to reno since its not integrated now? | 19:26 |
| mriedem | the change doesn't happen to reno, | 19:26 |
| mriedem | it happens in novaclient if reno is configured in novaclient | 19:26 |
| ccarmack | I'm ignorant -what is reno? | 19:27 |
| mriedem | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/reno/ | 19:27 |
| mriedem | tool for building release notes stored within the project | 19:27 |
| bauzas | oh man, yeah we don't have reno in python-novaclient, right? | 19:27 |
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| mriedem | right | 19:27 |
| * bauzas facepalm | 19:27 | |
| ccarmack | Is that something I could do/ | 19:28 |
| mriedem | and it's all your fault | 19:28 |
| ccarmack | ? | 19:28 |
| ccarmack | sorry mriedem | 19:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add xenapi support for XenapiLiveMigrateData objects https://review.openstack.org/247853 | 19:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make libvirt driver return migrate data objects for source and dest checks https://review.openstack.org/247720 | 19:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Actually pass the migration data object down to the virt drivers https://review.openstack.org/248211 | 19:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add transitional support for migrate data objects to compute manager https://review.openstack.org/247719 | 19:28 |
| bauzas | okay, I can just provide the reno changes now | 19:28 |
| mriedem | the only thing about reno in the client is how it shows up wrt branches vs tags | 19:30 |
| bauzas | mriedem: we can have different relnotes based on semvers | 19:31 |
| bauzas | mriedem: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/reno/sphinxext.html#examples | 19:32 |
| bauzas | mriedem: for the moment, I'm writing a change for a master branch | 19:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Add DiskFormat as Enum in fields https://review.openstack.org/229854 | 19:34 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Make ImageMeta:disk_format use DiskFormatField https://review.openstack.org/231460 | 19:34 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Not transform to str on potential unicode fields https://review.openstack.org/248626 | 19:34 |
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| lifeless | jaypipes: IIRC py34 isn't using testr yet | 19:36 |
| lifeless | jaypipes: so its a different syntax | 19:36 |
| lifeless | jaypipes: or - it may not have the necessary logic to take your pattern over whatever defaults it has, I think swift has a helper for their new functional tests that has that | 19:37 |
| ccarmack | bauzas, mriedem: should I change the ChangeLog for now, or are we going to integrate reno into novaclient... ? | 19:37 |
| lifeless | jaypipes: I tend to just activate the venv and then run testr myself, which gets away from all the layers that can interfere | 19:38 |
| jaypipes | lifeless: see above... the tests I was trying were in the blacklist | 19:38 |
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| bauzas | ccarmack: writing a change now for having reno in the novaclient teee | 19:39 |
| bauzas | tree | 19:39 |
| bauzas | ccarmack: in the meantime, you should write an UpgradeImpact in your commit msg | 19:39 |
| ccarmack | bauzas: ok, what will that trigger? | 19:40 |
| mriedem | dansmith: i guess you can go ahead and abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248869/ | 19:41 |
| bauzas | ccarmack: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247775/ is one explanation | 19:41 |
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| mriedem | reno is nice for using before you release, | 19:41 |
| mriedem | so it says like, 'current series' or 'liberty series', | 19:42 |
| mriedem | the libs/clients are less about the branch and the changes in the tagged release, | 19:42 |
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| mriedem | and to doc those, you need to know the version that's going to be released next, or do the release notes right before you release | 19:42 |
| mriedem | b/c this py26 change will be novaclient 3.0, but we might release 2.36 before that | 19:43 |
| mriedem | so i guess in the client, we'll just be updating release notes before each release...like how some other clients/libs are handling their changelog today | 19:43 |
| jaypipes | melwitt, dansmith, mriedem: I have verified https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248742/ fixes the associated bug and that the unit tests Paul introduced in that patch do assert the bug. | 19:44 |
| jaypipes | melwitt, dansmith, mriedem: Since it is a data/reporting corruption issue I think it's important to review at your soonest convenience. | 19:45 |
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| ccarmack | mriedem: so with bauzas integrating reno into novaclient, do I have some work to do updating the release notes for my py26 change at release time? | 19:47 |
| mriedem | ccarmack: i think the answer for your change is just add UpgradeImpact to the commit message as bauzas pointed out, we use that to see what needs a release note later, | 19:47 |
| bauzas | ergh, novaclient doesn't support a version module | 19:48 |
| ccarmack | I'm reading bauzas change now - so in the future I would need to include a release not file with my change set | 19:48 |
| bauzas | ccarmack: right | 19:48 |
| ccarmack | not/note | 19:48 |
| ccarmack | got it | 19:48 |
| mriedem | bauzas: well, only if you know the version your change is going to go into, which in this case we know it's going to be 3.0 | 19:48 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: speaking of https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/releasenotes/source/conf.py#L53 | 19:50 |
| bauzas | (I mean the equivalent) | 19:50 |
| bauzas | from pdb | 19:50 |
| bauzas | pbr huh | 19:50 |
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| bauzas | okay, I can find a workaround | 19:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chuck Carmack proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Remove python 2.6 support from python-novaclient https://review.openstack.org/248874 | 19:54 |
| ccarmack | add the UpgradeImpact flag | 19:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Not transform to str on potential unicode fields https://review.openstack.org/248626 | 19:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Add reno for release notes management https://review.openstack.org/248893 | 20:03 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: dansmith: ccarmack: for your pleasure https://review.openstack.org/#/q/Ie42642a0e0037311cfa14cd8bf6b7041b62a4675,n,z | 20:06 |
| bauzas | mriedem: we can try to see how to have various versions in the rst file after that | 20:07 |
| bauzas | (I can also see how the other client projects use that) | 20:08 |
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| ccarmack | bauzas: I'll put a do-not-merge on my py26 change until your reno changes are merged | 20:12 |
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| bauzas | ccarmack: well, it first needs a CI change that I'm writing on | 20:13 |
| ccarmack | I think I can wait | 20:13 |
| bauzas | ccarmack: so I'm okay to land your change if you write an UpgradeImpact | 20:13 |
| bauzas | fair enough | 20:13 |
| lifeless | mriedem: why not submit the reno patch now | 20:13 |
| lifeless | mriedem: and not accept it until near release ? | 20:13 |
| alaski_ | dansmith: bauzas with regards to your earlier convo the plan is to run conductor in the api. without it nova-api has more long running operations and I think we'd prefer to have them all happen after that point. | 20:14 |
| bauzas | alaski_: sure, but that means we have to have an api conductor... | 20:14 |
| dansmith | alaski_: okay I guess we need it for the wait-for-scheduler bit anyway, eh? | 20:14 |
| bauzas | alaski_: different from the main one | 20:14 |
| tdurakov_ | hi folks, need final +2 for live-migration job, added nfs configuration step https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247081/ | 20:14 |
| alaski_ | dansmith: right. the other option is a greenthread and nobody seemed too happy about that | 20:14 |
| dansmith | alaski_: yeah | 20:15 |
| bauzas | wait-for-scheduler? forgot that | 20:15 |
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| alaski_ | bauzas: it doesn't need to be a different conductor manager, just another copy of the service in the api with some new methods. But I think we'll want to split the manager like we did for the task manager in conductor | 20:15 |
| alaski_ | bauzas: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239995/ | 20:16 |
| bauzas | ah that | 20:17 |
| * bauzas is just running three threads in mind | 20:17 | |
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| cburgess | sdague *ping* | 20:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/nova: Update ironic virt driver to use portgroups https://review.openstack.org/206163 | 20:26 |
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| bauzas | alaski: so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211753/ has a -1 because pep8 is bad for you, happy to respin ? | 20:32 |
| alaski | bauzas: I'll push in a second | 20:32 |
| bauzas | alaski: lxsli had a comment too | 20:33 |
| alaski | yeah, it was about the pep8 failure | 20:33 |
| alaski | I think | 20:33 |
| bauzas | nope, about REQUEST_SPEC_JSON_ATTRS IIRC | 20:33 |
| alaski | ahh, I was assuming that unused var was the cause of the failure. but it's an unused import | 20:34 |
| bauzas | yup | 20:34 |
| bauzas | strange btw. | 20:35 |
| bauzas | I thought an unused var could -1 | 20:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Add persistence to the RequestSpec object https://review.openstack.org/211753 | 20:37 |
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| alaski | bauzas: it doesn't appear to flag if they're not within a method | 20:39 |
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| bauzas | probably | 20:39 |
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| bauzas | because it could be difficult to see if they are used or not | 20:40 |
| bauzas | python, I love you | 20:40 |
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| bauzas | alaski: so, re: check-destinations BP, I wonder where we could land the persist/get call for the Spec object | 20:44 |
| bauzas | alaski: if we agree with having an api conductor, that means it's still okay to land the get/update call still in the conductor manager, rihgt? | 20:45 |
| bauzas | for the moment, I made a proposal in the spec to have it close to when we call select_dest() | 20:45 |
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| bauzas | alaski: if so, that wouldn't trample any cells v2 stuff, right? | 20:46 |
| bauzas | given that these calls would still be done by an api conductor which would call the super mega scheduler, nope? | 20:46 |
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| sfinucan | Does Nova have any concept of interrupt- or notification-driven tasks? | 20:47 |
| sfinucan | I see `periodic_task` used extensively and I'm also aware of the 'notify_about_instance_usage' and related functions. The latter is polling-based though, while the former only seems to issue user-focused messages | 20:48 |
| sfinucan | s/latter/former/ s/former/latter/ | 20:48 |
| dansmith | sfinucan: confusing | 20:48 |
| sfinucan | Sorry | 20:49 |
| dansmith | sfinucan: the notify there is to send a notification about a change, which happens when a thing happens, to notify someone like the deployer about a change | 20:49 |
| dansmith | periodic tasks happen on a timer to poll for cleanups, etc | 20:49 |
| sfinucan | dansmith: OK. So for something like VM creation/deletion, we seem to use periodic tasks | 20:50 |
| dansmith | sfinucan: use more words | 20:50 |
| sfinucan | OK :) | 20:50 |
| dansmith | sfinucan: vm create/destroy happens because you asked for it via the api | 20:50 |
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| sfinucan | Why do we use periodic tasks to check if VM creation/deletion is done? | 20:52 |
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| dansmith | sfinucan: in case it fails in the middle and we need to clean it up | 20:52 |
| sfinucan | dansmith: But this means there's a period of time between when a VM is finished being created/deleted and when the user is told it's finished, correct? | 20:54 |
| sfinucan | Which causes bugs like this https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1210436 | 20:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1210436 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "hypervisor status does not update immediately after 'nova delete'" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Marian Horban (mhorban) | 20:54 |
| dansmith | sfinucan: no | 20:54 |
| sfinucan | dansmith: Oh? | 20:54 |
| dansmith | sfinucan: there is a delay between you asking for it to be deleted and it being deleted, but that is not because of a periodic | 20:54 |
| alaski | bauzas: I'll need to look at the check destinations bp again. yes, it would be possible to have a conductor call update the api db. But I agree with dansmith and don't think it will be necessary | 20:55 |
| dansmith | sfinucan: that's because most API requests are async.. they return immediately and put something on the message queue to be processed | 20:55 |
| bauzas | alaski: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/mitaka/approved/check-destination-on-migrations.html | 20:55 |
| bauzas | FYI | 20:55 |
| dansmith | sfinucan: which is a very fundamental design point of nova (since I can feel "why" coming) | 20:55 |
| alaski | bauzas: like we're handling initial scheduling I would expect a migration destination to be known before calling into a cell | 20:55 |
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| bauzas | alaski: yup, calling a mega scheduler | 20:56 |
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| sfinucan | dansmith: Hmm OK that's interesting. So we can say that as soon as the VM deletion request is received and completed by Nova, the DB should reflect the deletion? | 20:58 |
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| dansmith | sfinucan: as soon as it's completed by nova, yeah | 20:59 |
| dansmith | sfinucan: which is not equal to "received" | 20:59 |
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| dane-fichter | does anyone have any insight into how to get a functional test to use libvirt instead of a fake driver? | 21:00 |
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| sfinucan | dansmith: OK, that's interesting :) | 21:00 |
| sfinucan | I think the linked bug can be marked as invalid for this reason so I'll do just that. Thanks for the help, dansmith | 21:01 |
| dansmith | sfinucan: yep, probably (having read only the title) | 21:02 |
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| dane-fichter | sdague: any insight into how to get a functional test to use libvirt instead of a fake driver? I was told you were the person to ask | 21:04 |
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| dansmith | dane-fichter: sdague is slacking off today | 21:05 |
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| dansmith | dane-fichter: any further messages should probably be shame-inducing | 21:06 |
| dane-fichter | dansmith: haha ok. I will refrain from shaming | 21:06 |
| dansmith | your call | 21:06 |
| dansmith | seems appropriate to me | 21:06 |
| dansmith | might affect the level of support you get when he returns though I guess :) | 21:06 |
| dane-fichter | dansmith: don't suppose you have any guesses on the functional test thing? | 21:07 |
| dansmith | dane-fichter: nope | 21:07 |
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| dane-fichter | dansmith: aw shucks. I'll keep tinkering | 21:07 |
| dansmith | dane-fichter: I would ask mriedem but I assume he would have chimed in if he knew | 21:07 |
| dansmith | he usually takes every available opportunity to look smart | 21:08 |
| dane-fichter | mriedem: any insight into how to get a functional test to use libvirt instead of a fake driver? dansmith says you're smart | 21:08 |
| dansmith | no, that's not what I said | 21:08 |
| dansmith | I said he likes to LOOK smart | 21:08 |
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| dane-fichter | dansmith: :) | 21:08 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Not transform to str on potential unicode fields https://review.openstack.org/248626 | 21:08 |
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| mriedem | dane-fichter: nova functional test? in-tree? we don't run with live devstack in the nova functional tests | 21:18 |
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| dane-fichter | mriedem: so if I wanted to test a feature that has code in the libvirt driver against an actual deployment, I need to implement a Tempest test? | 21:19 |
| mriedem | tempest doesn't test virt drivers, | 21:20 |
| mriedem | tempest tests APIs | 21:20 |
| mriedem | you'd have a different job | 21:20 |
| mriedem | that runs devstack with your special config | 21:20 |
| dane-fichter | a whole different gate job? | 21:20 |
| mriedem | depends on what you're trying to test i guess | 21:20 |
| mriedem | it's hard to speculate | 21:20 |
| dane-fichter | ephemeral storage encryption, which needs libvirt, lvm, and a few config options set | 21:21 |
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| mriedem | that'd be a different job yeah | 21:22 |
| bauzas | alaski: sorry, just spotted a problem that I missed when previosuly reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211753/36 | 21:23 |
| mriedem | dane-fichter: so like setting NOVA_BACKEND=lvm in devstack right? | 21:23 |
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| bauzas | alaski: tbc, you just need to respin for the 2 object names that were wrong IMHO | 21:23 |
| bauzas | alaski: for the other stuff, it's just a comment | 21:23 |
| dane-fichter | sort of. it's sufficient to set a config option in the ephemeral_storage_encryption option in nova.conf | 21:23 |
| dane-fichter | so I was trying to make a test case inheriting from integrated_helpers that forces the right config options and then boots an instance | 21:24 |
| mriedem | dane-fichter: you could look at what nova.tests.functional.libvirt.test_numa_servers is doing | 21:25 |
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| mriedem | it's stubbing out libvirt-python with fakelibvirt, and doing some other monkey patching, but i think the point of that is to create a server that goes through the NUMATopologyFilter | 21:26 |
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| dane-fichter | I took a look at that. I don't believe that fakelibvirt does what I need it to without some substantial hacking on it | 21:26 |
| mriedem | it mocks out the scheduler filter, boots the instance and then asserts the filter was called | 21:27 |
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| dane-fichter | does it actually boot an instance via libvirt? it looks as if it just fakes the correct responses to common libvirt calls | 21:27 |
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| dansmith | dane-fichter: if you want that, | 21:28 |
| dansmith | you really need devstack, IMHo, | 21:28 |
| dansmith | so that you've got a valid image and stuff | 21:28 |
| dane-fichter | this is what I feared. | 21:28 |
| mriedem | yeah the image service is faked out in the nova functional tests | 21:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Make some classes inherit from NoDBTestCase https://review.openstack.org/233798 | 21:29 |
| mriedem | unless you just plan on mocking out the lvm imagebackend create_image method | 21:29 |
| mriedem | and make sure that dmcrypt.create_volume is called with the write flags | 21:30 |
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| mriedem | *right | 21:31 |
| dane-fichter | I have also tried that. can't figure out how to get the functional tests to get down to the dmcrypt call | 21:31 |
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| mriedem | well i guess you create an instance from a faked out image (the functional tests already create an instance) | 21:32 |
| mriedem | set instance.get('ephemeral_key_uuid') on it | 21:32 |
| mriedem | snapshot the lvm-backed instance with the libvirt driver, | 21:32 |
| mriedem | and mock out the dmcrypt parts | 21:32 |
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| rlrossit | holy notifications batman | 21:33 |
| rlrossit | I <3 ML | 21:33 |
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| dane-fichter | mriedem: that's an intriguing workaround. | 21:34 |
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| dane-fichter | mriedem: thanks for the idea. I'll give it a try. | 21:35 |
| mriedem | btw, i imagine it's infinitely harder than that :) | 21:36 |
| dane-fichter | mriedem: haha not infinitely! but yeah it'll be a little tricky | 21:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add xenapi support for XenapiLiveMigrateData objects https://review.openstack.org/247853 | 21:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Actually pass the migration data object down to the virt drivers https://review.openstack.org/248211 | 21:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tracy Jones proposed openstack/nova: Cleanup of compute api reboot method https://review.openstack.org/127427 | 22:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Fix repr of a host from a hosts.list() https://review.openstack.org/248300 | 22:57 |
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| lifeless | mriedem_away: so - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248505/ mergable ? | 23:14 |
| lifeless | mriedem_away: with dans patch it passes the unit tests, the functional one needs a project-config change | 23:15 |
| lifeless | mriedem_away: but since its non-voting, no harm if we merge it now? | 23:15 |
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| lifeless | Nakato: ^ | 23:17 |
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| Nakato | Yea, it's good to merge. | 23:19 |
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