Thursday, 2015-11-19

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openstackgerritMiguel Lavalle proposed openstack/nova-specs: Integrate DNS resolution with Neutron using Nova hostname  https://review.openstack.org/9015000:42
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Reverse sort tables before archiving  https://review.openstack.org/24663501:08
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Reverse sort tables before archiving  https://review.openstack.org/24663501:09
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openstackgerritZhenzan Zhou proposed openstack/nova: scheduler: fix incorrect log message  https://review.openstack.org/23791401:14
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Enable options for oslo.reports  https://review.openstack.org/21691703:16
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tangchen__Hi all, today is planed to review specs. Would you guys take some time to see this spec ?   https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229255/04:40
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venkat_pHi all05:12
venkat_pIn my devstack setup, I am not able to delete existing endpoint for nova05:12
venkat_pI am able to delete newly created endpoints but not existing one05:13
venkat_pwhat can be the problem?05:13
venkat_perror message is :Unable to delete endpoint.05:13
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openstackgerritCorey Wright proposed openstack/nova: Prevent redundant instance.update notifications  https://review.openstack.org/24537605:26
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/24272706:04
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openstackgerritoctopuszhang proposed openstack/nova: update connect_volume test  https://review.openstack.org/24400206:17
openstackgerritoctopuszhang proposed openstack/nova: update connect_volume test  https://review.openstack.org/24400206:17
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tangchen__alex_xu: Hi alex, do you have time to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229255/ ?06:49
alex_xutangchen__: yea, will take a look at06:52
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tangchen__alex_xu: Thanks. Today is the spec reviewing day, right ?06:53
alex_xutangchen__: yea06:53
tangchen__alex_xu, Thanks06:53
alex_xutangchen__: np06:54
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openstackgerritTimofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: DO NOT MERGE NFS setup for multinode job  https://review.openstack.org/24708107:11
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openstackgerritRavi Shekhar Jethani proposed openstack/nova: Simplified boolean variable check  https://review.openstack.org/24733507:46
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openstackgerritRen Qiaowei proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add support to boot from UEFI images  https://review.openstack.org/23598307:51
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: improve readme contents  https://review.openstack.org/23519608:21
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bauzasgood morning Nova08:36
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andrearosao/08:38
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tangchen__<bauzas>: Good morning.08:45
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openstackgerritMoshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: SR-IOV: Improve the vnic type check in the neutron api  https://review.openstack.org/24510808:46
tangchen__<bauzas>: Would you please have a look at this spec? review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229255/08:46
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bauzastangchen__: today is the spec review day, so that's in my backlog08:46
tangchen__<bauzas>: Yes. Thanks. :)08:47
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openstackgerritRen Qiaowei proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add support to boot from UEFI images  https://review.openstack.org/23598309:00
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tangchen__alex_xu, oomichi: Hi, Thanks for the review. One more thing related to this spec. Please also have a look at this.  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229282/09:04
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tangchen__alex_xu, oomichi: Implementing soft reboot/poweroff for nova ironic driver is also on my schedule.09:04
tangchen__alex_xu, oomichi: I think it won't be too much code.09:05
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tangchen__alex_xu, oomichi: Is the spec necessary ?09:05
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tangchen__alex_xu, oomichi: It won't impact the REST API, I think.09:06
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tangchen__alex_xu, oomichi: And no new interfaces will be added. Just some improvements of the existing reboot/poweroff methods in ironic driver.09:07
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oomichitangchen__: now if sending the API from the client, client gets HTTP501?09:09
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tangchen__oomichi: No, it will ignore the --soft option, and do a hard reboot.09:12
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oomichitangchen__: ok, I got it. thanks09:12
tangchen__oomichi: And this could change the API's default behavior. If implemented, the --soft will cause a real soft reboot.09:13
tangchen__oomichi: Does that matter if I don't provide a spec ?09:14
oomichitangchen__: yeah, that is a point from api viewpoint09:14
oomichitangchen__: that is already mentioned in the spec I feel.09:15
tangchen__oomichi: I mean reboot/poweroff, not NMI.09:16
openstackgerritlyanchih proposed openstack/nova: libvirt - Flavor's quota instance resource not observed for non-ephemeral storage  https://review.openstack.org/20101909:16
oomichitangchen__: I know09:16
oomichitangchen__: I am reading nova/virt/ironic/driver.py now09:16
tangchen__oomichi: yes, but which spec do you mean that mentioned the soft reboot thing ?09:17
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oomichitangchen__: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229282/1/specs/mitaka/approved/soft-reboot-poweroff.rst09:18
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oomichitangchen__: "reboot() ignores reboot_type because ironic does not support soft reboot."09:18
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tangchen__oomichi: Well, I'm suggesting that I will do the work without providing this spec.09:18
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tangchen__oomichi: I'm trying to confirm if it is OK if I abandon this spec, but still implement the functionality in Mitaka.09:20
oomichitangchen__: on ironic side, ironic will provide soft reboot with a new microversion?09:20
tangchen__oomichi: Yes, it is here. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186700/09:21
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oomichitangchen__: both features are written on the same spec ;-)09:23
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oomichitangchen__: it is nice to have a spec for getting reviews, I feel09:23
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openstackgerritlyanchih proposed openstack/nova: NUMATopologyFilter raise exception and not continue filter next node  https://review.openstack.org/20063009:23
tangchen__oomichi: Yes. NMI and reboot/poweroff are on the same spec in Ironic. But I split them in Nova, because NMI has a lot of work to do in Nova, and reboot/poweroff has less. :)09:24
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oomichitangchen__: yeah, I also have the similar feeling. soft thing is small.09:24
tangchen__oomichi: So, as you can see, Tony thought soft reboot/poweroff does not need a spec. It is more like a refactor. How do you think ?09:25
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markus_z_bncIs the gate currently down? I wasn't here yesterday and didn't see anything on the ML.09:27
oomichitangchen__: it seems difficult to have a spec or not. enough to abandon it also, but not strong opinion09:28
oomichitangchen__: maybe the implementation is not difficult, right?09:28
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oomichitangchen__: on nova side.09:29
oomichitangchen__: just passing type of reboot to ironic with a new microversion of ironic09:29
tangchen__oomichi: Yes, I think so.09:30
oomichitangchen__: if so, we can review the implementation patch without a spec09:30
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tangchen__oomichi: Actually, I do want this functionality implemented in Mitaka. So if the spec is necessary, I don't want it to miss the spec deadline.09:31
openstackgerritAdelina Tuvenie proposed openstack/nova: Added support for new block device format in Hyper-V  https://review.openstack.org/24629809:32
openstackgerritAdelina Tuvenie proposed openstack/nova: Added support for new block device format in vmops  https://review.openstack.org/24629909:32
openstackgerritAdelina Tuvenie proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: adds os-win library  https://review.openstack.org/21210209:32
tangchen__alex_xu, bauzas: Please also have a look at this spec. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229282/09:33
tangchen__oomichi: Let's see if there is any other suggestion. :)09:33
bauzaslots of internal things to do first...09:33
tangchen__bauzas: Yes. Just a reminder. Thx. ;)09:34
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oomichitangchen__: yeah, nice for getting opinions :)09:35
tangchen__alex_xu, bauzas, oomichi: Soft reboot/poweroff is now being implemented in Ironic. The spec is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186700/09:35
tangchen__alex_xu, bauzas, oomichi: So we need to support it in nova ironic driver.09:35
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tangchen__alex_xu, bauzas, oomichi: This spec (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229282/) is for nova ironic driver. Please vote for it if you think it is necessary. Thx.09:36
tangchen__alex_xu, bauzas, oomichi: Please take your time. This message is just FYI.09:37
tangchen__alex_xu, bauzas, oomichi: Thx. :)09:37
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oomichitangchen__: small -1 on the spec, please take a look09:38
tangchen__oomichi: Sure. :)09:38
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rajeshtndipanov: you around ??09:44
ndipanovrajesht, hello09:47
rajeshtndipanov: just need to discuss abt your comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215483/309:47
johnthetubaguytangchen__: your asking about spec vs blueprint, do you have a link to the blueprint?09:47
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rajeshtndipanov: migration status issue09:47
johnthetubaguytangchen__: if its an API change it requires a nova-spec, but unsure on the details here09:48
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ndipanovrajesht, sure09:48
rajeshtndipanov: as per your comment https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215483/3/nova/compute/manager.py #5028 block will be removed as it is already set in rollback_live_migration09:48
ndipanovrajesht, ok09:49
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ndipanovthat makes sense09:49
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rajeshtndipanov: do we also need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215483/3/nova/compute/manager.py line #5050 block, as rollback_live_migration is called as callback from _live_migration_monitor method in nova/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py module09:51
rajeshtndipanov: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L5884 recover_method is rollback_live_migration only.09:51
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openstackgerritTang Chen proposed openstack/nova-specs: Support soft reboot and poweroff in nova ironic driver.  https://review.openstack.org/22928209:52
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tangchen__<johnthetubaguy>: Please refer to https://review.openstack.org/22928209:53
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tangchen__<johnthetubaguy>: The BP is also not approved. Since I don't want this functionality to miss Mitaka, please do approve it if you think it is necessary.09:55
tangchen__<johnthetubaguy>: Thx. :)09:55
johnthetubaguytangchen__: yeah, that can be a spec-less blueprint09:57
johnthetubaguytangchen__: it just needs to go on the etherpad for spec-less blueprints09:57
openstackgerritSergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Replaced private field in get_session/engine with public method  https://review.openstack.org/24633709:57
johnthetubaguytangchen__: I have added it into the etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-spec-review-tracking09:58
rajeshtndipanov: yes, the above if block can be removed as it will be set to error by rollback_live_migration.09:59
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johnthetubaguytangchen__: although taking a look, we would want the ironic blueprint approved first, ideally at least10:00
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alexschmjohnthetubaguy: Hi, I created these two specs for mitaka: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230968/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232514/10:03
ndipanovrajesht, hmmm let me look at the code again10:03
rajeshtndipanov: sure10:03
alexschmjohnthetubaguy: they are already in the spec review etherpad in the libvirt section10:03
alexschmjohnthetubaguy: is there anything else I can do to get these approved, or just wait for further reviews?10:04
johnthetubaguyalexschm: we have a backlog of over 100 specs in review right now, its just a case of getting them reviewed10:04
johnthetubaguyalexschm: if you can get team members to help review them, thats often useful, so they are in good shape for when others get there10:05
alexschmjohnthetubaguy: okay good, just wanted to make sure they are in line with the review process10:05
alexschmjohnthetubaguy: yeah team members is a good idea, I'll reach out to them10:05
johnthetubaguyalexschm: ah, no problems, its good to check these things, all looks correct10:05
alexschmjohnthetubaguy: ok thanks!10:06
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openstackgerritPavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: enginefacade: 'agent' and 'action'  https://review.openstack.org/24739510:15
openstackgerritPavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: enginefacade: 'agent' and 'action'  https://review.openstack.org/24739510:17
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openstackgerritAlexander Schmidt proposed openstack/nova: WIP libvirt: use native AIO mode for image backends  https://review.openstack.org/24739610:19
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johnthetubaguygmann: so honestly, thats the kind of thing I don't want us to look at this release, while we get all the documentation straight10:23
johnthetubaguygmann: I would rather for N we sat down and work out what we want to do for all these UX improvements, and work out what needs the most work, etc10:24
gmannjohnthetubaguy: humm, so in document are we going to specify that (means with tenand_id filter with all_tenant) ?10:24
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gmannjohnthetubaguy: ohk, this one was since kilo i think :)10:24
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johnthetubaguygmann: so we can't change the existing API that is already out there, it would be a micro-version, so we have to document the old behaviour anyway, for all the users of existing versions of Nova10:25
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gmannjohnthetubaguy: yea :( thats true.10:26
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gmannjohnthetubaguy: ok, sounds good as per doc priority.  I will postponed that to N.10:27
tangchen__<johnthetubaguy>: OK, Thanks a lot.10:28
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johnthetubaguygmann: one possible thing, is to push on getting consistent API patterns agreed with the API WG, with a view to start adopting them in microversions during N, assuming we have the docs complete by then?10:29
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gmannjohnthetubaguy: ok, but wondering if that is not too generic for guidelines means its just filter thing10:32
gmannjohnthetubaguy: but yea, that is nice direction. I will check and see if we can have standard guidelines for that10:33
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openstackgerritMarkus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: review guide: add location details for config options  https://review.openstack.org/24578910:37
openstackgerritMarkus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: config options: enhance help test of section "serial_console"  https://review.openstack.org/24646510:37
openstackgerritMarkus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section "serial_console"  https://review.openstack.org/24417710:37
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alex_xujohnthetubaguy: morning, mitaka-1 is just for non-prority spec freeze, right?11:10
johnthetubaguyalex_xu: so its technically all specs, although I keep hearing folks assume thats not the case11:11
alex_xujohnthetubaguy: ok, I see now, thanks11:12
johnthetubaguyalex_xu: now if something comes up that we need for a priority later on, we can deal with that exception, but I kinda don't want that to be an assumption11:12
johnthetubaguyI should probably communicate that out11:12
mdboothdanpb: Are there any interesting gotchas relating to having a storage pool on shared storage mounted by multiple libvirts?11:12
alex_xujohnthetubaguy: ok, got it11:12
mdboothBeyond the regular issue of shared disks, that is.11:13
johnthetubaguyits spec review day today, I kinda forgot to send a reminder...11:13
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mdboothYou'd need to refresh to find out if another libvirt created a volume, I guess11:15
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johnthetubaguymdbooth: there a whole heap of stuff around scheduling that the resource providers spec is hoping to help fix11:17
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tangchen__<alex_xu>, <johnthetubaguy>: Sorry, one thing to confirm. By "non-prority spec freeze", do you mean if the spec does not get a +2 today, it will miss Mitaka ?11:21
claudiubjohnthetubaguy: hello. I know you're very busy, but, if you have a bit of time to take a look at the os-win patch in nova: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212102/ hyper-v ci has +1, subteam has +1. A lot of the LOC are unit tests to cover the changes..11:21
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mdboothjohnthetubaguy: It's not a deadline day today, is it?11:23
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johnthetubaguymdbooth: no, thats 3rd December11:23
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* mdbooth has been attempting to update the spec for copying volume using libvirt, and the deeper I get into it the more I think it's just a trivial corollary to the libvirt storage pool spec11:24
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mdboothHence probably shouldn't have its own spec11:24
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sdagueclaudiub: I'm kind of concerned about ComputeDriverException as a construct in there11:25
mdboothAll of the difficult work will have to exist already11:25
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claudiubsdague: can you be more specific pls?11:26
sdagueI put the review comment in there11:27
claudiubsdague: what is exact concern? :)11:27
johnthetubaguymdbooth: is that this one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232053/11:27
sdagueit's so broad11:27
claudiubsdague: a, ok.11:27
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mdboothjohnthetubaguy: Yes11:27
sdagueour exceptions are typically pretty narrow to a fail condition, which makes upper level handly and translation to user facing errors pretty straight forward11:27
mdboothThere's obvious the performance and functional aspect to it, wrt sparse files11:27
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sdagueComputeDriver went off the rails isn't really enough detail to do that11:28
mdboothHowever, from a design pov, the remotefs stuff which calls this will already have to have been majorly refactored for storage pools11:28
rushiagrgit status11:28
mdboothBecause the source can't assume that the destination has been upgraded yet11:28
johnthetubaguymdbooth: I think we reached consensus on the issue though, its good to just ack that, now its mostly written down, but I could be persuaded11:28
mdboothAnd hence may not be using the new layout11:28
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rushiagr(oops, sorry)11:28
mdboothSo the actual change required is going to be tiny, and a config option11:28
openstackgerritRoman Bogorodskiy proposed openstack/nova: Sync L3Driver, NullL3 interface with LinuxNetL3  https://review.openstack.org/18900111:29
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johnthetubaguymdbooth: yeah, I mean the agreement on the upgrade plans and deprecation plans are non-trival though, they aren't really complex either11:30
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mdboothjohnthetubaguy: Yeah, we agreed what to do about it. It's just that now I look hard at the details, I think everything of substance will have to exist anyway to implement the other spec.11:30
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mdboothThis spec degrades to: we'll provide an additional option for volume data transfer following the existing model.11:30
claudiubsdague: aha. well, to be honest, it's not really far off from what it existed before, at least in the HyperVDriver. Previously, the driver raised HyperVExceptions, which subclasses NovaException, which would be just as generic, IMO.11:31
* mdbooth will just write that11:31
sdagueclaudiub: right, which isn't very useful either, but making a new generic bucket encodes that at a higher layer11:32
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sdaguewhich is what my concern is, because now it's going to start getting used by other things, and it's not useful to do anything with11:33
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mdboothjohnthetubaguy: Actually, I think it's potentially a bit funky. Say we're using storage pools. We may even have moved those storage pools around. Then a non-upgraded host connects to us and writes volumes to random parts of the filesystem.11:40
mdboothIt also assumes we know where it wrote them, so it doesn't have to say.11:41
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mdboothThat's the bit that's going to require the hard refactor.11:41
mdboothWith that in place, adding an additional transfer option is trivial.11:42
johnthetubaguymdbooth: that makes sense, I can't remember the details we agreed in that storage pools spec around that stuff now11:42
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claudiubsdague: I suppose we can ssdague: I guess I could specialize some of the exceptions raised in the driver, but there could still be some Hyper-V specific exceptions that could happen. mriedem suggested that those exception should be wrapped in NovaExceptions, which is why ComputeDriverException. Anyways, do you have an alternative then?11:47
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Guest49793sdague, hi12:00
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tdurakovsdague, are you around?12:00
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sdagueclaudiub: none of the upper layers know what to do with hyperv specific exceptions12:01
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tdurakovsdague, when devstack was deployed with USE_SCREEN=False, how should i restart nova compute? there is no service for n-cpu, right?12:03
sdaguetdurakov: stop_service still works12:04
sdagueit has a pid12:04
claudiubsdague: I am aware of that, but there isn't much I can do if an unexpected hyper-v related exception occurs. I can only re-raise it as a NovaException...12:04
sdagueclaudiub: right, except you tested this with a bunch of exceptions that you knew about right? Are those things are can nail down to being more specific?12:05
sdagueI think at the end of the day it falling back to a base NovaException is probably fine, that just means it will be a 500 to the user12:05
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johnthetubaguysdague: claudiub: things like VolumeNotFound when trying to detach a volume, come to mind (seen some patches around that in some driver recently).12:08
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: sure12:08
sdaguelike I said, specific kinds of errors / exceptions are find and good12:08
sdaguemy objection is to a generic ComputeDriverException12:09
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johnthetubaguysdague: yeah, sorry, I wasn't clear, I am agreeing with you12:09
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johnthetubaguysdague: stuff that is like "the grass is blue, panic" may as well be a NovaException, unless I am missing something12:10
claudiubsdague: johnthetubaguy: yeah, those things I can specialize, as I said, and I will. The issue are unexpected errors / exceptions that we're not aware of. They should be at least wrapped in a NovaException or reraised as a NovaException.12:10
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sdaguejohnthetubaguy: right, exactly12:10
sdagueI don't want to codify a generic and unactionable exception beyond it12:11
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: on this review - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219596 your -1 has a response on it12:11
johnthetubaguyclaudiub: agreed with wrapping as NovaException12:11
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johnthetubaguysdague: ah, totally missed that, thank you12:14
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claudiubsdague: you voted -1 on this without any comment: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232554/12:18
sdagueclaudiub: gdi, I had a whole bunch of comments in there and apparently gerrit lost them?12:19
sdagueclaudiub: ok, the crux of it, we decided to avoid gratuitous six constructs when there is a way to just make the code work without them12:21
sdaguenew comment left12:21
claudiubsdague: k, gotcha.12:21
tdurakovsdague, stop_service - is it devstack-gate function?12:23
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sdaguetdurakov: it's in devstack12:26
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bauzasalex_xu: answered to your comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202673/32/nova/tests/unit/scheduler/filters/test_affinity_filters.py,cm12:29
alex_xubauzas: thanks, checking now12:30
* bauzas eventually goes to spec reviewing, yay \o/12:30
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bauzasalex_xu: sorry I forgot to leave https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/request_spec.py#L172-L17412:31
alex_xubauzas: ah, thanks12:31
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bauzasalex_xu: so passing a litteral is no longer possible12:32
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alex_xubauzas: emm...sorry, I didn't get your words. Actually I mean that testcase is for the case 'host.instances = {}', we should keep one testcase for that12:34
bauzasalex_xu: sorry, "A literal, on the other hand, is an element of an expression that describes a constant value."12:35
bauzashttp://python-history.blogspot.fr/2013/11/story-of-none-true-false.html12:35
bauzasalex_xu: if you see the test, it verifies that we can pass a string for the different_host hint, like in the test different_host': 'same'12:36
bauzasalex_xu: now that we're passing a Spec object, getting the hint will return you a list instead12:36
bauzasalex_xu: so the test is meaningless now12:36
alex_xubauzas: ah, I got you12:36
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alex_xubauzas: but I understand it tests the 'host.instances= {}' case12:37
alex_xubauzas: but after your explain, the testcase name sounds as you said12:37
bauzasalex_xu: that's not the purpose of the test IIRC12:38
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bauzasalex_xu: honestly, that test was silly - because it tested something which was not provided by the tested module12:39
bauzasalex_xu: it verified that utils.instance_uuids_overlap(host_state, affinity_uuids) can have affinity_uuids as a string12:39
alex_xubauzas: ah, I see now12:40
tdurakovsdague, added you to review draft for nfs setup script12:40
sdagueclaudiub: I figured out why the comments didn't come through, the patch series is all out of whack so the patches above it (one with a +2) reference an older version of this patch12:40
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alex_xubauzas: thanks for the explain, I can use my new radio button now :)12:40
openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova-specs: Virtual guest device role tagging  https://review.openstack.org/19566212:40
bauzasnp12:41
bauzasha, damnit time12:42
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claudiubsdague: yeah, it got pretty crazy. it's like a commit tree now, it's hard/annoying to just update every branch of the tree.12:44
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openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add support for shared volumes between guests  https://review.openstack.org/21250812:51
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openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova-specs: Virtual guest device role tagging  https://review.openstack.org/19566212:55
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openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Manifesto for working on Tasks  https://review.openstack.org/22128013:13
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PaulMurraysdague, I saw you approved https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234659/13:15
PaulMurraysdague, it depends on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227278 which has one +213:15
PaulMurraysdague, are able to review that one too?13:15
openstackgerritRui Chen proposed openstack/nova-specs: Avoid API conflicting operations in parallel  https://review.openstack.org/21657813:16
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sdaguePaulMurray: honestly, I looked at the details of that lower review and am not really comfortable +2ing it. I think danpb should definitely be in the loop for it, and all his past reviews on it have been -113:17
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: is there a reason you left it as a +1?13:17
PaulMurraysdague, np - I'll follow up with him13:17
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johnthetubaguysdague: it was a combination really, I wasn't 100% sure on the libvirt details, and the other +2 was from rackspace, sorry should have put that in my comment13:19
sdagueanyway, I do think danpb should have a look if he can13:20
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Add service status notification  https://review.openstack.org/24567813:21
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Add infra for versioned notifications  https://review.openstack.org/24702413:21
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danpbsdague: PaulMurray i'll take another look at it13:23
danpbassume you're talking about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227278 ?13:23
rajeshtPaulMurray: you around ?13:24
PaulMurrayThanks danpb13:24
PaulMurrayrajesht,13:24
PaulMurrayyes13:24
rajeshtPaulMurray: just need to discuss abt your comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215483/313:24
PaulMurraydanpb, yes that's the one13:25
PaulMurrayrajesht, yes - the failed vs error.13:25
rajeshtPaulMurray: yes13:26
rajeshtPaulMurray: as per nikola's comment https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215483/3/nova/compute/manager.py line #5028 block will be removed as it is already set in rollback_live_migration13:26
openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add ips-add-max-and-type.rst  https://review.openstack.org/24749613:26
rajeshtPaulMurray: and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215483/3/nova/compute/manager.py line #5050 block, as rollback_live_migration is called as callback from _live_migration_monitor method in nova/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py module13:27
rajeshtPaulMurray: should we also remove this block on line #5050 ^^13:27
openstackgerritTimofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: DO NOT MERGE NFS setup for multinode job  https://review.openstack.org/24708113:28
rajeshtPaulMurray: because IMO that is recover_method is rollback_live_migration13:28
rajeshtPaulMurray: pl check https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L5884 recover_method is rollback_live_migration only.13:28
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PaulMurrayrajesht, I will have to look deeper to answer that question - I'm happy to do that, but I will have to come back with a review comment later13:29
openstackgerritYang Wei proposed openstack/nova: Add hw:max_vcpus to flavor's extra_flavor.  https://review.openstack.org/24749913:30
rajeshtPaulMurray: periodic task _cleanup_incomplete_migrations will only work if only filter instances for which migrations status is set to 'error'13:30
rajeshtPaulMurray: sure. thanks for your time.13:30
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rajeshtPaulMurray: periodic task _cleanup_incomplete_migrations will only filter instances for which migration status is set to 'error'.13:32
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openstackgerritYang Wei proposed openstack/nova: Add hw:max_vcpus to flavor's extra_flavor.  https://review.openstack.org/24749913:34
PaulMurrayrajesht, I think ndipanov didn't like the approach - you will have to convince him that this is the right way to do it.13:34
rajeshtPaulMurray: I have discussed with him, he said he will check it again. :)13:35
PaulMurrayrajesht, I can give my opinion, but I think he is the one you will need to convince13:35
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rajeshtPaulMurray: IMO having two status for failure operation will confuse developers, and as per Alex's understanding, it is not mentioned anywhere which status should be used for recoverable or non-recoverable situations.13:36
PaulMurrayrajesht, yes, I agree, I wasn't didn't know until I discussed it with him and then looked at the code and it looked like that idea was being used13:37
PaulMurrayrajesht, comparing this to instances - you can try to delete an instance that is in an error state13:37
PaulMurrayrajesht, sometimes it works, sometimes not13:38
rajeshtPaulMurray: the migration status failed was introduced in this change https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/2f4e64a7cf81de4a22fe2fc4210b1f795b1a3db413:38
PaulMurrayrajesht, when an instance is in error it does usually mean an operation could not be done on it and could not recover either13:38
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PaulMurraybut that can be temporary - doesn't mean it can't be cleaned up later13:38
PaulMurrayso trying to clean up later seems reasonable to me13:39
PaulMurraysame happens for images cached on disk13:39
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PaulMurrayif the task that looks after them fails to delete one it will still try again later13:39
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lxslimarkus_z: adding a rule to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-trivial-bug-subteam that doc fixes + small refactorings are OK13:40
markus_zlxsli: The doc fixes and refactoring? Yepp, that's cool.13:41
lxsli+ tests. Thanks :)13:41
PaulMurrayrajesht, but to be honest I still need to look in more depth to give a proper opinion13:41
rajeshtPaulMurray: sure, will wait for your feedback. thanks13:41
markus_zlxsli: I've looked at your dashboard again and it's useful too but I'm somehow occupied with other stuff right now :(13:42
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openstackgerritRen Qiaowei proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add support to boot from UEFI images  https://review.openstack.org/23598313:43
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Change test function name to make more sense  https://review.openstack.org/24751013:44
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johnthetubaguysdague: that ebtables change, do we know what distros we are excluding by requiring ebtables 2.0.10?13:46
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markus_zjohnthetubaguy: Is it plain ebtables 2.0.10 or is the build number part of the lower bounds?13:51
sdaguejohnthetubaguy - precise doesn't support it13:51
sdagueit's why the fix didn't go in until now13:52
sdaguemarkus_z: as far as I know it's 2.0.10 straight up13:52
markus_zsdague: ok, cool, thanks13:52
openstackgerritAnkit Agrawal proposed openstack/nova: Remove redundant migration status update  https://review.openstack.org/24751913:52
johnthetubaguysdague: OK, that makes sense, just curious about other folks13:53
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openstackgerritPavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: fixed log warning in sqlalchemy/api.py  https://review.openstack.org/24690113:54
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sdaguecentos 6 looks like it would be left behind by this, centos 7 is fine13:54
openstackgerritRen Qiaowei proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add support to boot from UEFI images  https://review.openstack.org/23598313:54
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sdaguebut I think we're bumping libvirt past centos 6 support threshold this time anyway13:55
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sdaguethis is based on looking at - http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/Packages/13:55
sdagueand http://mirror.centos.org/centos/6/os/x86_64/Packages/13:55
alex_xudanpb: appreciate if you can give some suggestion on https://review.openstack.org/245543 when you have time :)13:56
sdagueI assume that largely reflects the rhel story13:56
openstackgerritChuck Carmack proposed openstack/nova-specs: Allow user to set and retrieve the server Description  https://review.openstack.org/22890813:56
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johnthetubaguysdague: yeah, that sounds like it fits13:57
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BobBallSpec review day.  Awesome.  danpb / tonyb / johnthetubaguy - there is an update on VGPU spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229351/ that's awaiting a re-review if you wouldn't mind adding it to your (presumably long) lists :)13:58
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alex_xudanpb: thanks :)14:04
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openstackgerritRen Qiaowei proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add support to boot from UEFI images  https://review.openstack.org/23598314:07
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openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: fix docstring for cluster management  https://review.openstack.org/21864114:09
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snikitinjohnthetubaguy, mikal: Hi guys! I want to ask your opinion about spec for getting detailed information about set of instances. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239286/1 There was a problem with URI length. Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed smart idea - use short UUID ( "8f41f612-b32b" instead of "8f41f612-b32b-4a81-90e6-fddfa1a95d5e"). What do think about this idea?14:11
johnthetubaguysnikitin: not sure it totally changes the problem, there is still a limit, but at least its a more practical limit I supose14:13
snikitinjohnthetubaguy: do you think send uuids in body is better?14:14
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johnthetubaguysnikitin: unsure, maybe lets just document the limitation our URL length14:14
johnthetubaguys/our/with/14:14
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snikitinjohnthetubaguy: limitation for all nova requests?14:16
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johnthetubaguysnikitin: yes, it is a limitation for all REST API requests, as I understand it14:17
johnthetubaguysnikitin: but it would be good to just make it clear the maximum at are possible, etc14:17
snikitinjohnthetubaguy: As I see neutron client has hardcoded URL length. https://github.com/openstack/python-neutronclient/blob/d0927dce9f2b32b5ec72e83f348a81639a882fdd/neutronclient/client.py#L4314:17
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openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Make block_migration and host flags in live-migration API  https://review.openstack.org/24554314:18
alex_xudanpb: ^^ done :)14:18
snikitinjohnthetubaguy: maybe we can do same14:18
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sdaguesnikitin: the url length is dictated by the server.14:18
sdaguesnikitin: I still don't think we should do that spec14:19
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johnthetubaguysdague: are you worried we are encouraging an anti-pattern?14:20
sdagueyes14:20
sdagueespecially when we have a whole project that can do all this, quickly14:20
johnthetubaguyyeah, its a fair concern14:20
sdagueand in the base case you can use GET /servers/details?changes-since14:20
sdagueanyway, I added another round of my -1 there14:21
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johnthetubaguysdague: thats a good point14:22
johnthetubaguysnikitin: is there a reason changes-since doesn't work well in the given use case?14:22
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johnthetubaguysnikitin: actually I see from your use cases, that doesn't help you, hmm14:25
markus_zdanpb: mikal has a question in the libvirt-virtlogd spec about the IO rate limit I couldn't answer. Could you maybe have a look sometime? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234291/3/specs/mitaka/approved/libvirt-virtlogd.rst,cm14:25
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snikitinjohnthetubaguy: yes. it doesn't help14:26
markus_zdanpb: apologies if double posted, my network has issues14:26
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johnthetubaguysnikitin: would just returning the name to uuid mapping for all the users instances be better?14:27
snikitinjohnthetubaguy: I see two ways for my use cases. 1. create some new API request to get just set of instances names by set of uuids. 2. on nova client size accept long requests and made some set of small requests.14:28
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snikitinnova client side*14:28
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johnthetubaguysnikitin: I don't understand why we do a detail call to get the name really14:28
johnthetubaguysnikitin: we do support paging, thats possible, but why would that help horizon?14:29
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snikitinjohnthetubaguy: paging wouldn'd help if we need names of 3 instances. maybe name to uuid mapping will be better. as I understand anyway we will get names of ALL instances? even we need 3 names?14:33
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sdaguePaulMurray: did the details for the midcycle ever go out? I might have missed them.14:36
openstackgerritPavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: enginefacade: 'vif' and 'task_log'  https://review.openstack.org/24754514:36
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mriedemsdague: i never saw anything14:37
mriedemi.e. location/hotels14:37
dansmithI'm waiting to book as a result14:37
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PaulMurraysdague, about to send them now14:40
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PaulMurraysdague, dansmith mriedem see: https://starcite.smarteventscloud.com/hpe/NovaMidCycleMeeting - covering email going out in a mo14:42
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dansmithwe already registered on eventbrite though?14:43
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PaulMurraydansmith, I new you were going to say that14:44
PaulMurrayquit complaining14:44
PaulMurray:)14:44
mriedemPaulMurray: we should have that in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/NovaMitakaSprint14:44
mriedem^ is where people go14:44
dansmithare we going to need transport between the hotel and the campus/14:44
dansmithand how about airport to hotel?14:45
mriedeme.g. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/NovaLibertySprint14:45
mriedembeautifully detailed...14:45
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PaulMurraydansmith, I'll send the email - and I'll put something in the wiki14:45
mdboothPaulMurray: Got a sec to talk about libvirt storage pools?14:45
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PaulMurraymdbooth, in 30 mins14:46
PaulMurrayI have to go14:46
mdboothPaulMurray: K. Ping me when you have a moment.14:46
PaulMurraythat ok?14:46
PaulMurraywill do14:46
mdboothThanks14:46
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mriedemdansmith: so i guess we just book a hotel that's closish to the thing14:47
mriedemand hoof it14:47
mriedemor,14:47
dansmithbut 40 minutes from the *close* airport?14:47
mriedemmtreinish rents a cargo van and drives us all around all week14:47
mriedemyeah that's annoying, i guess then you get a cab and pay $200?14:48
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dansmithit doesn't look like a very fun walk from that hotel to thecampus14:48
dansmithif I'm reading the map right14:48
mriedemheh, no it's not14:48
bauzasyup :(14:48
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openstackgerritRoman Podoliaka proposed openstack/nova: servicegroup: ensure DB driver handles failures in remote conductor  https://review.openstack.org/24755214:49
dansmithPaulMurray: are we supposed to be able to walk from the hotel to the campus?14:50
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danpbPaulMurray: in the "Venue Information" page the postcode you have is wrong AFAICT14:51
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mriedembus line https://goo.gl/Vg4TJq14:51
mriedem ?14:51
mriedemdansmith: no, it's a 25 min walk14:52
danpbPaulMurray: it says "Long Down Avenue, Bristol, BS4 3JF" which is in a totally different place14:52
mriedemaccording to google maps14:52
dansmithmriedem: or a 23 minute bus ride14:52
mriedemdansmith: yeah but in january i'd rather take the bus14:52
lxslidanpb: HP campus is BS34 8QZ14:52
bauzasand train station is 20 mins walk too...14:52
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dansmithmaybe they're planning to have shuttles or something?14:52
mriedemi'm planning on mtreinish having a cargo van14:53
danpb20 min walk from Holiday inn to office which is fine14:53
danpbjust get a taxi from train station imho14:53
mriedemdanpb: what's the weather like there in january?14:53
bauzaswet?14:53
dansmithicy?14:53
danpbprobably cold & wet14:53
bauzasrainy? :)14:53
mriedemyeah, but like 30 degrees?14:53
danpbusually hovers around 0-5 C14:53
mriedemrealize it's like 40 mph winds and 32 degrees F here today14:53
danpbits not like USA where it gets -30 in winter14:53
dansmithguess I'll be checking a bag of winter hiking gear14:54
mriedem41F, that's gd tropical14:54
dansmith:)14:54
* bauzas thought a sec that mriedem was talking in celsius14:54
bauzas30 in winter would be awesome14:54
mriedemso taxi from bristol airport?14:54
lxsliYeah taxis will be the easiest way to get from airport14:54
sdaguemriedem: accuweather says historyical average is 45H/37L (F) for that time of year - http://www.accuweather.com/en/gb/bristol/bs1-6/january-weather/327328?monyr=1/1/201614:55
bauzaslxsli: how much ?14:55
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bauzasfrom the airport to Filton ?14:55
lxslibauzas: I've never taken a taxi to work from the airport :)14:55
andrearosamriedem: the weather in january? exactly the same weather you have during the other months: rainy14:55
lxslibauzas: I'd guess... 10 GBP in euro... 14.27 euro ?14:55
danpblxsli: we need this page fixed  https://starcite.smarteventscloud.com/eps/event/microsite/previewinvitation.asp?pagetype=CUSTOMPAGE&CustomPageid=/1353421  - it says  "BS4 3JF,"  as postcode14:55
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lxslidanpb: PaulMurray will have to do it14:56
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mriedem$20 tax isn't bad14:57
mriedem*taxi14:57
sdagueyeh, that seems reasonable14:57
bauzasthat would really be surpriseing14:57
andrearosabauzas: taxi from the airport is at least 35 pounds. Uber could be slightly cheaper14:57
bauzasin Grenoble, I usually pay more like 30-40EUR for this distance14:57
lxsliandrearosa: really? are you sure?14:57
openstackgerritMark McLoughlin proposed openstack/nova: api: remove re-declared type in migrate schema  https://review.openstack.org/24755514:57
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mriedemdansmith: this is what i plan on wearing http://www.orvis.com/orvis_assets/corpimg/092209_barbour_learn_more_b.jpg b/c it's what all good englishmen wear in winter in my mind :)14:58
andrearosalxsli: yeap14:58
dansmiththe heathrow taxi says 144GBP for a 1.5 hour ride,14:58
dansmithand it's 40 minutes for bristol14:58
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dansmithhow does that end up at 20USD?14:58
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mriedem10 GB would be ~$20US after tip14:58
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mriedem72GB is not $20 :)14:58
andrearosajust did a fare estimate for uber is 23-30 pounds uberX14:59
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andrearosa34-45 uberXL14:59
sdagueok, so clearly not 10 GB :)14:59
dansmiththat's 30-45 USD14:59
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lxsliyeah OK so I just phoned a taxi company and they said £4015:00
dansmith$61 USD15:00
lxsli57 euro15:00
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bauzasI would say 40GBP for BRS to Filton15:01
bauzasLHR is way farier15:01
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andrearosamaybe the pound goes down in january :)15:01
PaulMurrayLHR is 100 miles from here15:01
lxsliPaulMurray: postcode is wrong on your event page15:01
mriedemPaulMurray: i'm not sure if you heard about this postal code problem....15:02
PaulMurrayyes, thanks dansmith for seeing that15:02
mdboothPaulMurray: Are you in Bristol?15:02
PaulMurrayyep15:02
dansmithPaulMurray: are you going to shuttle us from the hotel to the site, or expect us to walk?15:02
mdboothBrizzul15:02
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dansmithand/or is it a decent walk? hard to tell on the map.. looks not that fun15:03
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mdboothdansmith: In general, you should expect walking to be ok, dependent on distance.15:04
danpbdansmith: there's a pedestrian sidewalk at least :-)15:04
mdboothdansmith: What danpb said :)15:04
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mdboothIt's not the US15:04
dansmithdanpb: is there? I don't really see that..15:04
lxsliit's not scenic though15:04
mriedemhey!15:04
danpbdansmith: just checked it on streetview15:04
mriedemwhat's all this US sidewalk bashing?!15:05
mriedemi'd expect walking around there to be fine, there is a university in between15:05
mriedemstudents do a lot of walking, right15:05
mdboothmriedem: It's when it disappears and the place you're trying to get to is on the other side of a freeway, because who the hell doesn't have a car anyway? ;)15:05
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danpbyou can generally assume there are sidewalks on all roads in UK cities15:06
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mriedemmdbooth: we don't walk in the US15:06
* markus_z giggles15:06
mriedemwe drive trucks15:06
mriedemwith guns15:06
mriedemand hamburgers15:06
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mdboothboo ya!15:06
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lxsligunburgers15:06
mriedemgunburgers is a good idea15:06
danpbif weather sucks, we can just share a taxi to/from the holiday inn and split costs15:06
andrearosalol15:06
mriedemfor a franchise15:06
mriedemeat while you take target practice15:07
markus_zdon't forget the eagles!15:07
lxslithey're the target practice15:07
mriedemeagles don't get much play outside of philadelphia15:07
jlanouxand machine gun bacon15:07
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bauzasmriedem: do you know what is a sidewalk then ? :D15:07
danpbmdbooth: what was nice in Westord RH office was that in winter the pedestrian sidewalk is the place where they store all the snow :-)15:07
bauzasOL15:08
bauzasLOL even15:08
mdboothlol15:08
lxslidanpb: the Japanese are very fond of cycle paths I noticed, they offer such convenient parking15:08
mdboothAtlanta Waffle House, btw: https://goo.gl/photos/KkTypdSyZd1omz7D815:08
danpbhaha15:08
mdboothWaffles and target practice15:08
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openstackgerritKaitlin Farr proposed openstack/nova-specs: Integrate Castellan for Key Management  https://review.openstack.org/24756115:12
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openstackgerritShaoHe Feng proposed openstack/nova-specs: Attach/detach SR-IOV interface  https://review.openstack.org/13991015:14
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Add service status notification  https://review.openstack.org/24567815:14
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Add infra for versioned notifications  https://review.openstack.org/24702415:14
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Make emitting versioned notifications configurable  https://review.openstack.org/24756415:14
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mriedemgaryk1: do you know if the vmware nsx CI is running liberty?15:30
mriedemwell, i guess for master it should be master devstack?15:31
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garyk1mriedem: as far as i recall it was.15:31
garyk1which patch is of intersted and i can doucble check15:32
mriedemi figured it out15:32
mriedemhttp://208.91.1.172/logs/246635/1/1447801224/stack.sh.log.gz#_2015-11-17_22_48_58_06815:32
mriedemjust needed to know the version of glance-store being used15:32
mriedemgoing to get this released https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246714/15:32
mriedemso if the vmware backend in glance pukes it doesn't trace so hard15:32
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garyk1ok, thanks!15:35
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bauzasPaulMurray: that website misses crucial information for hotel booking IMHO15:35
dansmithfor serious15:36
bauzasPaulMurray: ie. terms & conditions (cancellation, breakfast etc.)15:36
dansmithPaulMurray: I almost booked the hotel directly15:36
dansmithbauzas: the table says breakfast is included, and no charge on the card, so probably refundable15:36
dansmithbut still15:36
dansmithconfusing15:36
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bauzasdansmith: yup, but that's not a TOS :p15:36
bauzasdansmith: so, no guaranttee15:36
dansmithagreed15:36
* bauzas is not paranoid15:37
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bauzasbut thanks for noticing that, that helps me15:37
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alexschmdansmith: did you see my comment on your review in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215102/ ?15:38
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openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add realtime support  https://review.openstack.org/19756915:39
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add policy check to avoid using qga in realtime context  https://review.openstack.org/24758515:39
dansmithalexschm: no, I'll read15:39
alexschmdansmith: okay thanks15:40
openstackgerritPavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: enginefacade: 'instance_tags'  https://review.openstack.org/24405815:41
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bauzasokay, I trusted HP :p15:42
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openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: verify cpu bw policy capability for host  https://review.openstack.org/22472615:43
lxslidoes anyone else get a ton of "recursion depth exceeded" errors when running tox locally?15:44
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alexschmlxsli: I had that problem yesterday, but after doing a git pull it went away15:45
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bauzaslxsli: are you sure you updated your venv and pulled the latest master ?15:45
lxslialexschm: ah cool, thanks15:45
lxsliprobably the venv, yep15:45
bauzaslxsli: it was a CI isuse15:45
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bauzasbut the fix landed by like 2 or 3 days15:45
alexschmyeah I also recreated my venv...15:45
dansmithmriedem: you have any minions that want to work on objectifying a random dict we're sending over the wire?15:46
mriedemdansmith: rlrossit would probably jump at that15:46
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openstackgerritBrian Rosmaita proposed openstack/nova-specs: Lightweight Nova Service Profiling  https://review.openstack.org/24761615:48
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openstackgerritTimofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: DO NOT MERGE NFS setup for multinode job  https://review.openstack.org/24708115:49
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dansmithmriedem: that would be cool15:50
dansmithmaybe I should just do it15:50
dansmiths'been a while15:50
mriedemwhich thing?15:50
alexschmdansmith: are you referring to the response data for live migration?15:50
dansmithalexschm: yup :)15:50
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/24762115:51
mriedembig ol bag o dicts?!15:51
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dansmithnova.objects.GiantMessODicts15:51
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mriedemsingle field15:52
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/24764415:52
mriedemDictOfNullableAnything15:52
dansmithheh15:52
dansmith.VERSION = random.randint()15:52
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mriedemworks for me15:53
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openstackgerritRandall Nortman proposed openstack/nova-specs: WIP Propose scoped policies for server groups  https://review.openstack.org/24765415:53
mriedemgaryk1: did you get a release note change up for the vmware opaque networks docimpact?15:54
mriedemwe should land that before mitaka-115:54
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openstackgerritRandall Nortman proposed openstack/nova-specs: WIP Propose scoped policies for server groups  https://review.openstack.org/24765415:54
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alexschmdansmith: do you want to work on objectifying it? let me know, I'll review and adapt the serial console fix15:55
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garyk1mriedem: no, not yet15:55
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bauzasmriedem: I was about reviewing all merged UpgradeImpact patches by tomorrow15:56
dansmithalexschm: are you asking if you can work on objectifying it? or asking if you should base your change on top of the object work?15:56
garyk1mriedem: can you point me to where i should do it and i'll do it15:56
bauzasmriedem: like you said, we need to land them before m-115:56
dansmithalexschm: I can work on objectifying if you would prefer to base your thing on top15:56
bauzasgaryk1: sec, giving you an example15:56
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alexschmdansmith: both would work for me, although I'm not an objectifying expert ;-)15:56
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mriedemgaryk1: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245993/15:56
alexschmdansmith: yeah that would be great15:57
mriedemit's an in-tree change like that ^15:57
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bauzasmriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245993/15:57
andrearosaclaudiub: ref: abort-live-migration specs, are you around?15:57
bauzasah snap15:57
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mriedembauzas: i win15:57
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dansmithalexschm: okay, lemme see if I can do it quickly15:57
dansmithmriedem: cancel the bat signal15:57
bauzasmriedem: I wonder if we should ask people to put UpgradeImpact on the reno changes15:57
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bauzasmriedem: that would ease my review duty15:57
bauzasI should probably devref that in the code-review doc too...15:58
rlrossitmriedem: thanks for volunteering me15:58
bauzasgaryk1: for how to create a relnote http://docs.openstack.org/developer/reno/usage.html#creating-new-release-notes15:58
rlrossitbut apparently dansmith likes work too much15:58
garyk1bauzas: thanks.15:58
dansmithrlrossit: there might be a slice that we could do in parallel, let me get started and I'll let you know15:59
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/24762115:59
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mriedembauzas: you can filter gerrit by changed files16:00
mriedemso filter on releasenotes/*16:00
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bauzasmriedem: oh yeah, correct I forgot that16:01
mriedemi have of course forgotten how to do that16:01
bauzasmriedem: that's not like if I was having that for watched projects :p16:01
bauzasmy brain is obviously a mess16:01
claudiubandrearosa: hello16:01
claudiubandrearosa: what about it?16:02
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andrearosaclaudiub: are you still interested in working on implementing the avort for live migration? I see you are mentioned in the other assignee section16:02
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andrearosaclaudiub: https://review.openstack.org/22882816:03
openstackgerritPawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: WIP Add way to pause VM during live migration  https://review.openstack.org/24592116:03
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claudiubandrearosa: as far as hyper-v goes, yeah, it shouldn't need a big change, as we have the job canceling mechanism already implemented.16:05
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andrearosaclaudiub: ok cool, if the spec got approved It is likely I'll work on it might be necessary to sync at some point16:07
andrearosas/got/get16:07
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openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: make detach_device to return an async object  https://review.openstack.org/21768016:09
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openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/nova: Live migration: wait for vif-plugged event on pre live migration  https://review.openstack.org/24691016:14
claudiubandrearosa: cool. keep in mind that that we're currently trying to get os-win into nova, so if you do any kind of work, please do it on top of this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212102/ Otherwise there would be merge conflicts and etc. :)16:14
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sdaguejohnthetubaguy / dansmith - is our policy to just add items like this to the hypervisor list for out of tree things? - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245811/16:15
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sdagueit looks like there are a lot already16:15
dansmithsdague: unfortunately :(16:15
sdaguebut wanted to double check the current state of thinking16:15
sdagueok16:15
dansmithsdague: the previous argument was that this is just us enumerating things we know of16:16
andrearosaclaudiub: thanks for the heads-up16:16
dansmithand not blessing them necessarily16:16
sdagueok, that's fine16:16
sdagueI just wanted to be consistent16:16
sdagueso worth double checking16:16
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claudiubandrearosa: np. :)16:17
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openstackgerritTimofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: DO NOT MERGE NFS setup for multinode job  https://review.openstack.org/24708116:19
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johnthetubaguysdague: dansmith: hmm, that is a little odd... although not really sure what the alternative is16:20
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dansmithjohnthetubaguy: not doing it is the alternative16:22
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dansmithand I would be fine with it, it's just that this is what we've _been_ doing16:22
sdagueok, well, decide soon. I approved it based on it being part of current policy16:22
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sdagueif someone want's to -2 it to prevent it from merging, that's fine. But it being in zombie state is probably not right.16:23
mriedemthere is precedent, so -2 is not really appropriate16:23
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mriedemunless you remove the other out of tree things in there16:24
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mriedemthe alternative is out of tree drivers, or people deploying with them, have to ship a patch that adds their thing to that list16:24
dansmithI generally don't approve these as a result, but I don't -2 them either16:24
mriedemfor scheduling to work16:24
sdaguesure, I just don't think we should pocket veto things. Was trying to unstick as many single +2ed patches16:24
dansmithmriedem: right, which is kinda what we want16:24
dansmithwell, kinda what I want16:24
sdaguedansmith: it requires an object signature change though, right?16:25
mriedemyeah...16:25
sdaguethat seems not kosher for out of tree16:25
mriedemthat makes it hard16:25
mriedemright16:25
dansmithit does make it harder to CI a thing out of tree ahead of time16:25
dansmithsdague: what does?16:25
dansmithsdague: adding a type?16:25
sdaguedansmith: yeh16:25
mriedemHVType is in HVSpec which is an object16:25
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dansmithsdague: yeah, I dunno what your point is though16:25
mriedemso adding values to the enum bumps the version16:25
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mriedema patch out of tree with the version changes would get stale pretty quick16:25
sdaguedansmith: well, not only that, how does upgrade ever work if they have a forked object version history16:26
dansmithmriedem: well, only as quick as we add new drivers, but yeah I think the CI thing was the reason16:26
dansmithsdague: but we don't care for out of tree drivers anyway16:26
danpbsdague: specifically in the case of that particular enum, I think adding support for out of tree drivers is fine, since its just conceptually enumerating the list of possible things that exist16:26
sdagueok, as long as it's explicit: you don't get upgrade if you have an out of tree driver16:27
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sdaguebecause that's a pretty strong line16:27
danpbaside from that specific case though, i'd generally -2 things added for benefit of out tree drivers16:27
dansmithsdague: well, you don't get a lot of things, but you don't lose upgrade specifically16:27
sdaguedanpb: yeh, I +2ed the change based on current policy16:27
dansmithsdague: it just means you may have to do more engineering, just like anything else such as a change to the driver inteface16:27
sdaguedansmith: hmmm...16:27
sdaguethey patch liberty, add driver, change objects16:28
dansmithsdague: and, the hash is only a unit test thing, so you could not bump the version fo that object when you make your change and you don't fork history16:28
sdaguewe patch mitaka, reuse object version16:28
dansmithsdague: they bump past it to account for it16:28
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dansmithit really doesn't change anything16:28
sdaguedansmith: except that code is already deployed16:28
openstackgerritAlexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Unify on _schedule_instances  https://review.openstack.org/21976116:29
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dansmithsdague: it's no different from RAX adding an rpc interface and having to keep versions straight16:29
sdagueok16:29
sdagueI guess I was thinking about object versions like sqla migrations, and you are completely boned if you go off the main path16:29
dansmithwell, that's not really any different,16:30
dansmithyou just renumber things16:30
mriedemnot if you use placeholders :)16:30
jrollwe intentionally add comments and such to ensure a rebase conflict if we bump rpc versions16:30
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dansmithit just means you're never on the same as everyone else, but if you're okay with that, it doesn't matter16:30
sdagueok16:30
dansmithor you resync at the next release where we leave placeholders16:31
dansmithand for RPC, you could resync on a major bump16:31
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openstackgerritVladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: virt: introduce libosinfo library to set hardware policy  https://review.openstack.org/14962516:35
openstackgerritVladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: use osinfo when configuring network model  https://review.openstack.org/14962716:35
openstackgerritVladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: adding a class to retrieve hardware properties  https://review.openstack.org/14962616:35
openstackgerritVladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: use osinfo when configuring the disk bus  https://review.openstack.org/14962816:35
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andrewbogottmriedem: your patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222023/ just fixed my Big Bug of the Day.  thank you!16:36
mriedemandrewbogott: sweet16:37
mriedemandrewbogott: i think you reported it originally right?16:37
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andrewbogottnope, wasn’t me —16:39
andrewbogottHm… I thought that we only just discovered the issue, but launchpad thinks that I checked the ‘this bug affects me’ link already.16:39
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jaypipesmriedem, dansmith, alaski, jroll: some funny reading for you this morning :) http://bit.ly/gummy-bear-reviews16:46
mriedem"Just don't. Unless it's a gift for someone you hate."16:46
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dansmithdelicate starfish16:47
dansmithhave to remember that one16:47
lxsliif we're posting fun links - http://createdigitalmusic.com/2015/11/watch-techno-made-entirely-with-physical-mechanical-objects/16:47
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alaskiGummi Bear "Cleanse".  nice16:50
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jaypipeslxsli: that's truly awesome.16:59
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jrolljaypipes: I've seen that before, fantastic reading17:00
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openstackgerritCorey Wright proposed openstack/nova: Prevent redundant instance.update notifications  https://review.openstack.org/24537617:08
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garyk1mriedem: bauzas: so i just need to create the yaml file?17:11
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mriedemgaryk1: there is a command17:13
mriedemgaryk1: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/reno/17:13
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markus_zlxsli: awesome video :D17:13
mriedemhttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/reno/usage.html17:14
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garyk1mriedem: one more dumb question which package do i need to install to get this running?17:14
mriedemtox -e venv -- reno new slug-goes-here17:14
mriedemit's in nova17:15
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garyk1ah. cool. thanks!17:15
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markus_zmriedem: Do you host the nova meeting today? I've put the reno thing on the agenda, but I'm not sure if I can attend.17:17
openstackgerritdstepanenko proposed openstack/nova: WIP: This is 2nd part of changes according to pci-generate-stats blueprint.  https://review.openstack.org/24313117:17
openstackgerritdstepanenko proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Implementation of the first part of pci-generate-stats blueprint  https://review.openstack.org/24208717:17
openstackgerritdstepanenko proposed openstack/nova: WIP: This is 3rd part of changes according to pci-generate-stats blueprint.  https://review.openstack.org/24769217:17
markus_zmriedem: Cinder folks are discussing reno too, and Keystone created a "what is rel-notes worthy" doc17:17
mriedemmarkus_z: i am17:18
mriedemmarkus_z: i saw the update to some other meeting but didn't see what exactly came out of it since it wasn't a direct link to a convo17:19
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mriedemmarkus_z: just link the doc in the agenda i guess17:19
mriedemor post to the ML17:19
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markus_zyeah, the ML makes sense I guess.17:21
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mriedemi can't believe the thread about adding a job that checks for typos hasn't taken off17:23
mriedemsomething is wrong with this community17:23
markus_zit's not funny anymore as soon as you spoiler the end17:24
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richmhello17:27
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richmI have some code that uses the build_instance pre hook to set injected_files in the new instance17:27
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richmwith the kilo code, the argv[7] was passed as [] - so I could append/extend this value to add more injected_files17:28
richmwith the latest code, this is passed as None, so I can't set it17:28
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richmHow can I pass injected_files in a build_instance pre hook with the latest code/liberty?17:29
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova-specs: Allow user to set and retrieve the server Description  https://review.openstack.org/22890817:29
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova-specs: Allow user to set and retrieve the server Description  https://review.openstack.org/22890817:29
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kutyamutyaGood evening, can someone help me? I uploaded a patch, but dsvm-tempest-xen, and as I see it isn't my fault. What can be the cause of the problem?17:31
kutyamutyaI mean dsvm-tempest-xen failed17:32
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jaypipesrichm: might be best to post to the openstack-dev mailing list for that17:33
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richmjaypipes: thanks - email sent17:34
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markus_zkutyamutya: Not sure if you already have that, maybe it helps: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-October/077913.html17:39
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mriedemkutyamutya: you look for the failure and then see if it's related to your change17:45
mriedemkutyamutya: there are logs with the CI job results17:45
mriedemif you're not touching the xen code, then most likely it's not your fault and it's just a known race bug in that stack17:45
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kutyamutya@mriedem: I'm not even tried to touch xen code.17:49
kutyamutyaMy changeset is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241179/ As far as I know it's not modifying the xen code.17:50
mriedemso the logs are here http://logs.openstack.xenproject.org/79/241179/9/check/dsvm-tempest-xen/6901c94/console.html17:51
mriedemthere is one test failure17:51
mriedemtempest.api.compute.volumes.test_attach_volume.AttachVolumeTestJSON.test_list_get_volume_attachments[id-7fa563fe-f0f7-43eb-9e22-a1ece036b513]17:51
mriedemDetails: Volume 853230d9-8e71-416b-a27b-0107ca181020 failed to reach in-use status (current available) within the required time (196 s).17:51
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mriedemso i'd check the n-cpu logs http://logs.openstack.xenproject.org/79/241179/9/check/dsvm-tempest-xen/6901c94/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz17:52
mriedemthe failure is here17:53
mriedem2015-11-19 05:41:56.103 ERROR nova.virt.block_device [req-0f579e1a-f928-4f24-8beb-8288a2699284 tempest-AttachVolumeTestJSON-174551048 tempest-AttachVolumeTestJSON-1798726384] [instance: 264d4140-70ad-4eae-b8b7-2602f52bcd3d] Driver failed to attach volume 853230d9-8e71-416b-a27b-0107ca181020 at /dev/xvdb17:53
mriedemdue to: libvirtError: internal error: libxenlight failed to attach disk 'xvdb'17:53
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mriedemso it's not your change that is making it fail17:53
mriedemso it's OK to recheck17:53
mriedemi'd also open a nova bug tagged against the xen project CI noting this race failure17:53
mnaserhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/b5020a047fc487f35b76fc05f31e52665a1afda1#diff-509a5d5efed157666ac8e8ef54b29c4bR328 -- added on_execute, on_completion to execute, however, oslo.concurrency introduced on_execute, on_completion in v2.1 https://github.com/openstack/oslo.concurrency/blob/master/oslo_concurrency/processutils.py#L205 but stable/kilo is pinned to <= 1.917:53
mnaserwhich is resulting in ..  UnknownArgumentError: Got unknown keyword args: {'on_execute': <function <lambda> at 0x7f3a64527050>, 'on_completion': <function <lambda> at 0x7f39ff6ddf50>}17:54
openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/nova: Add relnote for change in default setting  https://review.openstack.org/24770517:54
mnasercan someone take a second and confirm what im seeing (dont have to test.. but im not seeing something wrong, correct?)17:54
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mnaserlooks like the cherry pick didnt factor into account the deps.. but the tests passed because it seems the on_exec stuff is stubbed17:55
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mriedemmnaser: the changes should be backported in oslo.concurrency <1.9 and released17:56
openstackgerritJesse J. Cook proposed openstack/nova: Cells RAM/IP combined weigher  https://review.openstack.org/24770817:56
mriedemmnaser: like a 1.8.x release17:56
mnaserlet me check, maybe this is a packaging problem.. kilo ubuntu ships 1.8.0 right now17:56
mnaserwhich doesnt have it17:56
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mriedemmnaser: so an easy fix17:57
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/oslo.concurrency/commit/3c6bcf4cd62302f949e47f1102fa7f986e82c59617:57
mriedemthe changes are all in oslo.concurrency stable/kilo17:57
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mriedemthe problem is they haven't been released17:57
mnaseryep, you are right17:57
mriedemso we need an oslo.concurrency 1.8.3 release17:57
johnthetubaguyPaulMurray: have you ever looked at disk_over_commit for live-migrate, it seems a bit silly?17:57
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mnaserokay, i'll make a ubuntu bug in that case17:57
mnaserii  python-oslo-concurrency             1.8.0-0ubuntu1~cloud0                 all          concurrency and locks for OpenStack projects - Python 2.x17:58
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mriedemmnaser: we need the library release first, which i can request17:58
mnaseroh, i see, i thought the library was released from openstack but not at ubuntu's side17:59
mriedemnope17:59
kutyamutya@mriedem: How can I recheck? I 've already put the comment 'xen: recheck', but nothing happened since then.17:59
mriedemkutyamutya: that would do it,17:59
mriedemnow you wait for results17:59
mnaseri see, well, if you could help with that, it would be most appreciated (if you're busy and can point me on the path to doing that, i'd do it as well)17:59
mriedemdoing it now17:59
mnaserthank you very much17:59
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BobBallmriedem / kutyamutya http://zuul.openstack.xenproject.org/18:00
mriedemooo fancy18:00
BobBallLooks like it's seriously backed up - will investigate.18:01
mriedemBobBall: now you just need to get elastic-recheck setup for your xen CI :)18:01
BobBallyeah... wouldn't that be awesome...18:01
PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy, I haven't looked at it - is it another one of those things that gets into negative disk space?18:02
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BobBallVery curious... For some reason zuul isn't asking for any more nodes even though there is a long queue18:02
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mriedemsdague: if we have a list of things to go into novaclient version 3.0, we need to add this to that list https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/master/novaclient/v2/shell.py#L6718:03
mriedemmordred: Vek_: melwitt: ^18:03
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* mriedem should start a list of the backwards incompatible changes to novaclient we want to make18:03
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mordredmriedem: yes please. although I think I've figured out how to support almost all of the things I originally wanted to deprecate cleanly18:04
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mriedemi read ^ wrong anyway18:05
mriedemthat's nova 13.0, not novaclient 3.018:05
mriedemso we'd remove in N18:05
mnasermriedem: i dont know if it was done already or.. but oslo.concurrency 1.8.2 contains the needed code18:06
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johnthetubaguyPaulMurray: it just seems like by default, you shouldn't need to worry about specifying that, I am thinking about this spec: https://review.openstack.org/24554318:06
mnaseras per http://docs.openstack.org/releases/releases/kilo.html#kilo-oslo-concurrency at least18:06
mnaserso maybe just report that to packaging?  it has the on_execute and on_completion callbacks18:06
johnthetubaguymriedem: yeah, we should get that list out on the ML, to see if we are missing any18:07
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mriedemmnaser: weird, github wasn't showing the tags https://github.com/openstack/oslo.concurrency/commit/2855b6e66256f7189c2298b2968e831480443ff218:07
* johnthetubaguy needs to go get food18:07
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* mriedem is doing like 5 things at once, poorly18:07
mnaseri dowloaded the tarball for 1.8.2 and i see it in the execute function18:07
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mnaserhttps://github.com/openstack/oslo.concurrency/blob/1.8.2/oslo_concurrency/processutils.py18:08
mnaserits there under tag 1.8.218:08
mriedemmnaser: yeah, gerrit showed the tag18:08
openstackgerritTimofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: DO NOT MERGE NFS setup for multinode job  https://review.openstack.org/24708118:08
mriedemand 1.8.2 is the min for stable/kilo https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/stable/kilo/global-requirements.txt#L6318:08
PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy, ah, I'm starting to reload something about that from the back of my head now.18:09
mnaserokay, so packaging bug it is18:09
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mnaseri'll go bug the ubuntu folks about this :)18:09
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/requirements/commit/2fd00d00db5fce57d9589643801942d0332b167018:09
mriedemyup18:09
mriedemcool18:09
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mnaserthank you very much mriedem i appreciate it18:09
mriedemnp18:09
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openstackgerritPaul Carlton proposed openstack/nova-specs: Cancel ongoing live migrations  https://review.openstack.org/22882818:14
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mriedemman a simpsons reference and rlrossit isn't around to enjoy it18:15
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dimshi mylu18:18
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add live migration data object base and libvirt implementation  https://review.openstack.org/24771818:18
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add transitional support for migrate data objects to compute manager  https://review.openstack.org/24771918:18
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make libvirt driver return migrate data objects for source and dest checks  https://review.openstack.org/24772018:18
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mriedemdansmith: cranked that out fast18:21
dansmithmriedem: I don't fsck around18:21
dansmithit's also not done yet :)18:21
dansmithany opinions on whether this should be lumped in with the generic objects bp, or some live migration specific one?18:22
mriedemumm18:23
mriedemis alex's thing a bug fix?18:23
mriedemalexschm18:23
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dansmithdepends on how you look at it I think18:23
mriedemneeds new rpc to fix the bug?18:23
dansmithit's not a regression, it's a limitation18:24
mriedemah ok18:24
dansmithwhich is in place because the original thing was not done well, but..18:24
mriedemdoes your series add any new feature capability? or just objects conversion for the greater good?18:24
dansmiththe latter, yeah18:25
mriedemthen just mitaka-objects18:25
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dansmithhowever,18:25
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dansmithit should be a dependency for any live migration fixes as part of that priority, IMHO18:25
dansmithstop the bleeding, build new fixes/features on top of sanity18:25
mriedemand we have bp's for those live migration things right?18:25
mriedemi'd be fine with a specless bp for that as a dependency if we want to track it separately18:26
dansmithI think they're broken out yeah18:26
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: ?18:26
mriedemthey could all depend on that bp in lp18:26
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mriedemso priority 1 is removing the bullsh*t technical debt before piling on18:26
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mriedemwhich IMO is always #1 priority18:26
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kutyamutya@mriedem: I' ve forgotten to say thanks, so thanks for your help! :)18:32
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* PaulMurray today has been painfully full of meetings - hopefully tomorrow will be better !18:33
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mriedemkutyamutya: np18:36
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: refines the exceptions raised in the driver  https://review.openstack.org/21210218:37
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: adds os-win library  https://review.openstack.org/24772918:37
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openstackgerritPaul Carlton proposed openstack/nova-specs: Migrate libvirt volumes  https://review.openstack.org/23205318:42
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ansiwenif I backport a fix from master to liberty that consists of two depening commits, I cherry-pick them seperately, right?18:44
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jrollansiwen: yes18:48
ansiwenjroll: thanks18:49
openstackgerritChris Friesen proposed openstack/nova-specs: Live Migration Automatic Block Migration  https://review.openstack.org/24773818:50
mriedemunless!18:52
mriedemansiwen: if the first backport doesn't make sense for stable on it's own, then you would squash them into a single change18:52
mriedembut probably better to tell when we know which fixes you're talking about18:52
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mriedemlike first fixes bug A but introduces bug B, then we squash them18:53
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: removes *Utils modules and unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/21591718:53
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Converting nova.virt.hyperv to py3  https://review.openstack.org/23255418:53
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ansiwenmriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24361618:54
mriedemoh god18:55
mriedemi KNEW you were going to be backporting those18:55
ansiwendansmith told me so18:55
mriedemb/c red hat needs them for some reason18:55
mriedemi know how all of you guys operate18:55
mriedemsince the first change is a test cleanup thing, i'd probably squash them18:56
* jroll learned a thing today18:56
dansmithFWIW, I hate ever squashing18:56
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dansmithunless it's critical for some gate reason18:56
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Replaces izip_longest with six.moves.zip_longest  https://review.openstack.org/23832118:57
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Fixes dict keys and items references for Python 3  https://review.openstack.org/23258518:57
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Fixes Python 3 compatibility for filter results  https://review.openstack.org/23262018:57
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Replaces longs with ints  https://review.openstack.org/23823918:57
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Fixes Python 3 unit tests for nova.compute  https://review.openstack.org/24774218:57
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ansiwenmriedem: so tell me how we operate, please. I'm very new to the team, maybe I learn something? ;-)18:58
openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add ips-add-max-and-type.rst  https://review.openstack.org/24749618:59
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openstackgerritLudovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Update binding:profile for SR-IOV ports  https://review.openstack.org/24257318:59
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mriedemansiwen: i guess just backport them in order, that will make reviewing them easier19:02
mriedemand myself and dansmith know this is coming, so we can deal with it19:02
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ansiwenmriedem: seriously, I think you are wrong with your assumption in this case, mdbooth picked that bug - reported by alaski - because it was easy enough for my first task... I don't think it has any priority here19:03
mriedemassumption about what now?19:04
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mriedemansiwen: oh about needing it backported19:04
mriedemthen why backport it?19:04
ansiwen"b/c red hat needs them for some reason"19:04
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mriedemso there is no conspiracy19:04
mriedemok19:04
mriedemthen don't backport it19:05
mriedemfind something that does need backporting and get experience that way19:05
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mriedemyou can find those via the liberty-backport-potential tag in launchpad19:05
mriedemfind one of those on a fixed bug that hasn't been backported yet, and voila!19:05
ansiwendansmith has to answer that, he put the tag there... I will not move between you guys... ;-)19:05
ansiwenmriedem: this one HAS that tag19:06
mriedemok, so,19:07
mriedemi said i was fine with backporting these19:07
ansiwen:-)19:08
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ansiwenis this a kind of ritual that newbies have to go through? ;-)19:09
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dansmithansiwen: I think you're missing the sarcasm here :)19:10
ansiwenyes, probably19:10
mriedemyeah, ftr, the red hat conspiracy was 75% sarcasm19:11
mriedembut i'm ok with backporting these if it's a ting19:11
mriedem*thing19:11
mriedemsorry for making waves19:12
ansiwenI assumed there was sarcasm involved, just wasn't sure in wich line ;-)19:12
ansiwennp, it waws fun19:12
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/24762119:16
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openstackgerritTimofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: DO NOT MERGE NFS setup for multinode job  https://review.openstack.org/24708119:30
melwittI'm looking for someone who knows more than I do about how novaclient can work well on a system with SELinux installed. there's a bug open where novaclient causes hundreds of errors to be logged while it's trying to discover novaclient extensions in the python path https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-novaclient/+bug/150950019:30
openstackLaunchpad bug 1509500 in python-novaclient "novaclient stats all files in /usr/bin" [Undecided,New]19:30
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mriedemdansmith: you should update the channel topic to use https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Mitaka_Release_Schedule19:32
dansmithmriedem: yeah, let me do that, because that sounds better than bashing my head against this stupid, stupid live migration crap19:33
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mriedemsdague: ^ dan also needs fries19:33
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dansmiththere are fries?19:33
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mriedemover in oslo land19:35
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sdagueI made their pep8 job super fast19:36
sdagueto make mriedem happy19:36
sdaguealso not need to install qpid19:36
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/247746/19:36
sdaguenova, sadly, can't do that because of the eventlet monkey patching19:36
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openstackgerritTimofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: DO NOT MERGE NFS setup for multinode job  https://review.openstack.org/24708119:38
cfriesen__sdague: why does pep8 involve monkey patching?19:39
sdaguepep8 does not19:39
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sdaguebut there is an interaction between pep8 and nova/__init__.py around the monkey patching the last time I tried to dump the deps for the pep8 job to just flake8 and hacking19:40
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Fixes Python 3 compatibility for filter results  https://review.openstack.org/23262019:43
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Fixes Python 3 unit tests for nova.compute  https://review.openstack.org/24774219:43
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sdaguehmm... maybe we fixed a thing19:45
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mriedemrlrossit: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197208/19:49
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: make pep8 tox target slimmer  https://review.openstack.org/24776419:49
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rlrossitmriedem: https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/63dc986d854729c0f467d828d19f2997a37f0f1119:50
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john5223set admin (root) password should work with libvirt in liberty right?19:56
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bauzasmriedem: I named you explicitely for the reno stuff :p19:57
bauzasmriedem: in the ML19:57
bauzasmriedem: so like I said, I'm planning to write a devref19:57
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bauzasmriedem: actually, my Atom editor is open and waiting for my order19:58
mriedembauzas: heh, works for me19:58
bauzasmriedem: the planned target is http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/code-review.html19:58
bauzasmriedem: but I'm wondering if something else would be nice19:58
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bauzasprobably http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/process.html as well19:59
mriedemand yeah, i was thinking about simple things like this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232252/19:59
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mriedem^ we could use reno to point out that there is now a new option on an existing in tree CLI19:59
mriedembauzas: i'd probably add a new section here http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/policies.html20:00
mriedemccarmack: easy change for you20:01
mriedemif you're willing20:01
* mriedem waits20:01
melwittjohn5223: I believe so, you need libvirt >= 1.2.16 with it for it to work https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185910/20:01
mriedemccarmack: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/policies.html#patches-and-reviews should point at http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/code-review.html20:01
ccarmackmriedem: will do boss20:03
bauzasmriedem: agreed for new features or opts using reno20:03
bauzasman, fortunately I'm not a blue guy20:04
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bauzas:p20:04
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mriedemi told him to say that20:10
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ansiwenbauzas: you're using Atom? Cool, I expected this to be vi/emacs land.20:12
auggywhat's wrong with emacs?? ;D20:12
bauzasI was formerly using ST3 but its proprietariness hitted me20:13
bauzasare we on Friday?20:13
edleafeauggy: emacs is a great operating system. All it needs is a decent text editor. :-P20:13
auggyedleafe: ;D20:13
dansmithbauzas: you use atom? we can't be friends anymore :(20:13
bauzassnaaaap20:13
ansiwenoops... that was probably a mistake by me...20:13
dansmithheh20:14
auggyto be fair, i haven't gotten pdb working as well as gdb in emacs so i've been using PyCharm20:14
ansiwenauggy: oh, interesting, I wanted to look into that remote-debugging capabilities of PyCharm. You like it?20:14
auggyansiwen: i like emacs :) i tolerate PyCharm20:15
auggyalso i'm just using the community edition so no remote debugging20:15
bauzasSublimeText <320:15
bauzasbut...20:15
bauzasanyway, I'm diverting20:15
* bauzas is a sad panda because of what dansmith said ;)20:16
ansiwenbauzas: yes, I also like SublimeText, but switched to Atom for the same reasons as you20:16
dansmithbauzas: only one way to feel better... http://emacs.org :)20:16
ansiwenactally I use a different editor for each language20:16
bauzashah20:17
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bauzasI played with vi for like 10 years when I was ops, it's too late for me20:17
auggybauzas: spacemacs!20:18
bauzasare we seriously talking about editors?20:18
edleafepudb for debugging!20:18
auggyedleafe: that actually reminds me of the gdb interface in emacs20:19
* ansiwen feels guilty...20:19
auggythat's the kind of thing i've been looking for!!20:19
edleafeauggy: it integrates with ipython for even better inspection20:20
auggywhat is ipython?20:20
* auggy is new to python20:20
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bauzasedleafe: heard of jupyter ?20:20
ansiwenmriedem: just for you: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24777320:21
edleafebauzas: yes - the next generation of ipython20:21
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ansiwenauggy: what did you code before?20:23
htrutahey doffm, I looked in the documentation for the live migration flags you've mentioned (like live_migration_completion_timeout). is there any documentation of those?20:24
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auggyansiwen: oh lots of things ;)20:32
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add code-review devref for release notes  https://review.openstack.org/24777520:33
bauzasmriedem: dansmith: ^20:33
auggylately mostly perl, haskell, node.js20:33
bauzasmriedem: dansmith: since English is obviously not my native language, you can throw me tomatoes20:33
bauzasI wouldn't be that grumpy :)20:33
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dansmithheh20:36
mriedemdoffm: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/sample_config.html20:40
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doffmhtruta: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py20:42
htrutadoffm: cool. thanks20:42
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mriedemso this versioned notification thing is hitting some roadblocks...20:49
mriedemrlrossit needs to write up a thing to the ML20:49
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mriedembasically, who, if anyone, is doing version compat with the notification payload?20:49
mriedemthe consumer?20:50
* rlrossit waves hands wildly20:50
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mriedemnova sends thing at version 2.420:50
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mriedemdoes consumer A have to know it can only handle 2.3 and then has to do the compat?20:50
mriedemthat seems trble20:50
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bauzasnova meeting in 5, right?20:54
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mriedemyes20:55
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auggyi found a trick for calendars that support appointment specific timezones/locations, i just say any UTC meeting is in Rekyavik21:00
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auggyreykjavik rather21:00
cfriesen__auggy: neat trick if UTC isn't an option21:01
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john5223melwitt: thanks. so it at least doesn't tell me its not supported now with 1.2.1621:05
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john5223now i need to figure out how to enable qemu-guest-agent21:06
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john5223anyone know, do i need to enable this on the glance image for qemu guest agent still ? glance image create ... --property hw_qemu_guest_agent=yes \21:09
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melwittjohn5223: I don't find any docs about this so far, the spec has some info in it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187509/21:22
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openstackgerritTimofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: DO NOT MERGE NFS setup for multinode job  https://review.openstack.org/24708121:33
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john5223weird. so if i set that image property it at least tries to set the password now. but now im getting AttributeError: 'virDomain' object has no attribute 'setUserPassword'21:47
john5223https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/liberty/nova/virt/libvirt/guest.py#L32121:47
john5223with libvirt 1.2.1621:47
mriedemnic:  http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#OpenStack_OSOps/Monitoring_and_Tools_Working_Group21:47
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mriedemcburgess_: nic: you guys aren't even in the openstack-operators channel!21:47
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cburgess_mriedem nic Yeah... ok... I'll fix that...21:54
mriedemagenda is in here somewhere https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Osops21:54
cburgess_mriedem agenda?21:55
cburgess_Oh they have a meeting cool.21:55
mriedemmeeting agenda21:55
mriedemyeah, sorry, was talking to nic about the meeting21:55
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mriedemcburgess_: b/c of http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-November/079778.html21:55
mriedemcburgess_: so if you have input on ^ please reply21:55
cburgess_yeah we need to sit down and get the nova bug thing going. We agreed in Tokyo to take on ownership/21:55
cburgess_mriedem Oh that is interesting... I do have some thoughts. Will comment in email.21:56
mriedemthanks21:56
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cburgess_mriedem Is the channel name openstack-operators?21:57
mriedemyeah21:57
cburgess_mriedem Not finding it for some reason...21:57
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rawlinAlso posting this here again in case it was missed before the end of the nova meeting: I'm trying to bring some core attention to #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198054/ "Disable IPv6 on bridge devices". It currently has three +1s and has been in review for quite some time now (PS1 was on July 2, 2015). The functional change is 7 lines and fixes a potential security risk. Also, the Neutron linuxbridge part of the fix was merged rec21:59
rawlinently.21:59
melwittjohn5223: what version of libvirt-python do you have?21:59
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mriedemrawlin: is there a job that runs linuxbridge + dvr on nova changes, like in the experimental queue?22:00
mriedemrawlin: because that would help22:00
mriedemsc68cal: ^22:00
john5223ah ha. you saved me again melwitt . thanks22:00
john5223i guess that one didnt make the upgrade22:01
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rawlinmriedem: I'm not sure if there is a job like that or not22:02
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rawlinmriedem: DVR is only supported with OVS, so that change is only for OVS, as it's the qbr bridge22:08
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mriedemrawlin: so why did you say "Also, the Neutron linuxbridge part of the fix was merged rec"22:10
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rawlinmriedem: this is the neutron review which merged: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241076/. For bug #1302080 that was the neutron-side of the fix22:14
openstackbug 1302080 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Host is accessible from instance using Linux bridge IPv6 address" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1302080 - Assigned to Rawlin Peters (rawlin-peters)22:14
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mriedemrawlin: ok so i obviously don't know how those fit together if it's ovs on the nova side and linuxbridge on the neutron side22:16
mriedemi will bow out22:16
mriedemi see it's neutron cores that +1ed so i probably shouldn't have to care22:17
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rawlinmriedem: sorry I may be confusing you, it's ovs on both the nova and neutron. The linuxbridge patch doesn't involve ovs at all22:18
mriedemso it's just the same bug, but different backends in different projects22:19
rawlinyes, I  believe so22:19
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rawlinThe issue is that someone inside a nova instance can ping6 the broadcast address, get the ipv6 address on the qbr device, and access the hypervisor from that ipv6 address22:23
dansmithonly if the people that run the hypervisor are crazy22:27
dansmith(subtext)22:27
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john5223melwitt: lets see if you can do it again :)  "NovaException: Error from libvirt while set password for username "root": [Error Code 1] internal error: unable to execute QEMU agent command 'guest-set-user-password': The command guest-set-user-password has not been found"22:41
john5223looks like nova-compute is finally talking to qemu-guest-agent on the VM22:41
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john5223is maybe my guest agent out of date now?22:41
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openstackgerritTimofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: DO NOT MERGE NFS setup for multinode job  https://review.openstack.org/24708122:45
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mriedemjohn5223: have you looked at the spec for that?22:46
mriedemsahid is really the person to track down probably, or danpb22:46
mriedemboth in european timezones22:46
john5223yup i checked spec.22:47
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john5223thanks though. i'll keep looking22:47
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melwittjohn5223: sounds like it. this says the command is since 2.3 https://github.com/qemu/qemu/blob/f52dd72dc1a679529e13e51a7b57e787455f92f0/qga/qapi-schema.json#L78522:51
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john5223melwitt: awesome. thats what i thought. thanks22:54
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/24762122:57
* dansmith is currently rue'ing today22:58
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sc68calmriedem: there is no DVR for linuxbridge23:00
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melwittdansmith: is this the object-ify the live migration response data?23:02
john5223melwitt: awesome. finally got kvm password reset working. thanks for the help23:02
dansmithmelwitt: the reason for my rue'ing?23:03
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melwittjohn5223: nice. now I know how to use it too :P23:07
melwittdansmith: yes23:07
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dansmithmelwitt: yes, the live migration sadness is causing me to rue today23:07
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john5223melwitt: yeah. ubuntu wily has 1.2.16 for libvirt, but 1.2.15 for python-libvirt. so gotta update python-libvirt and also install qemu-guest-agent 2.3.0 on your VM's and your good to go.23:08
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melwittdansmith: :( today I went to rebase my cells db connection switch patch and all the facade stuff in sqlalchemy/api.py looks different23:08
dansmithmelwitt: I suggest rue'ing23:08
dansmithif not already23:09
melwittalready there23:09
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dansmithheh23:09
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melwittjohn5223: that's odd that it came with mismatch on libvirt and python-libvirt. cool. I had noticed the feature before but didn't realize what was involved in making it work23:10
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melwittjohn5223: namely the guest agent23:10
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: refines the exceptions raised in the driver  https://review.openstack.org/21210223:13
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: adds os-win library  https://review.openstack.org/24772923:13
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: removes *Utils modules and unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/21591723:13
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Converting nova.virt.hyperv to py3  https://review.openstack.org/23255423:14
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Replaces longs with ints  https://review.openstack.org/23823923:15
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mikaldansmith: you around?23:20
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dansmithmikal: no23:21
mikalHeh23:21
dansmithwassup23:21
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Fixes dict keys and items references for Python 3  https://review.openstack.org/23258523:21
mikalSo, gus just made https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/privsep23:21
mikalNot sure if I should just approve it, or let it stall for a week23:21
mikalSeemed implicitly approved to me in the meeting23:21
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dansmithmikal: can we not have like three words in there?23:21
dansmithlinks to work, or other references?23:22
mikalSure23:22
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Replaces izip_longest with six.moves.zip_longest  https://review.openstack.org/23832123:22
dansmithotherwise I think you're fine to hit the button on behalf of your employee with whom you clearly have a conflict of interest23:22
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mikaldansmith: excellent23:22
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Fixes Python 3 compatibility for filter results  https://review.openstack.org/23262023:24
mikaldansmith: refresh the page, is that what you're after?23:24
dansmithmikal: I see more words and blue linky text23:24
dansmithso yeah23:24
mikalYay!23:24
mikalOk, I shall approve and blame you23:24
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Fixes Python 3 unit tests for nova.compute  https://review.openstack.org/24774223:25
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Transforms requests and responses into bytes  https://review.openstack.org/23832323:34
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openstackgerritMitsuhiro Tanino proposed openstack/nova-specs: Support hypervisor_type option  https://review.openstack.org/24615423:52
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