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| sfinucan | Could anyone point me to some documentation on the versioning schema for the Instance (v2) model? | 00:11 |
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| sfinucan | Trying to rebase some work from the before this work and the versioning has me bamboozled. Is the Instance model even "versioned" any more? | 00:12 |
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| harlowja | doffm hopefully u saw http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-May/063602.html | 00:24 |
| harlowja | vilobhmm11 can offer more data, but 'The zookeeper service driver in nova has probably been broken for 1 or | 00:24 |
| harlowja | more releases, due to eventlet attributes that are gone that it via | 00:24 |
| harlowja | evzookeeper[1] library was using.' ... | 00:24 |
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| vilobhmm11 | yes that thread has more details | 00:29 |
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| vilobhmm11 | doffm : ^^ | 00:29 |
| vilobhmm11 | about to leave now…but will be more than happy to talk on this tommorow thanks | 00:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Resize: Return to initial state instead of ACTIVE when resize fails https://review.openstack.org/202379 | 01:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Add checks for volume status when rebuilding https://review.openstack.org/217567 | 01:37 |
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| tangchen | Hi, please help to review and re-approve this BP. | 02:03 |
| tangchen | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/instance-crash-dump | 02:03 |
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| tangchen | The spec for mitaka is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229255/ | 02:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tang Chen proposed openstack/nova: Add a compute RPC API to trigger crash dump in instance. https://review.openstack.org/202605 | 06:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Tang Chen proposed openstack/nova: Add a cell RPC API to trigger crash dump in instance. https://review.openstack.org/234691 | 06:38 |
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| bauzas | good morning Nova | 07:44 |
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| kashyap | alex_xu: You want to learn a word or two only to catch "fashion trends"? :P | 08:30 |
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| rajesht_ | mikal: needed one more +2, could you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170118/ | 09:07 |
| rajesht_ | mikal: thanks | 09:07 |
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| PaulMurray | tdurakov, hi, I missed you yesterday - do you want to talk | 09:09 |
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| tdurakov | PaulMurray, hello, yep, about live-migration, I'll be available in a half an hour | 09:10 |
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| PaulMurray | ok - ping me | 09:11 |
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| garyk1 | danpb: can i please beg for a review for https://review.openstack.org/230425 | 09:12 |
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| tangchen | Hi, beg for a review of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/migration-state-machine | 09:15 |
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| tangchen | We also have a thread in openstack-dev mailing list. | 09:16 |
| tangchen | https://www.mail-archive.com/openstack-dev%40lists.openstack.org/msg65797.html | 09:16 |
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| tangchen | BP and spec are both available. | 09:17 |
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| tdurakov | PaulMurray, hey:) | 09:31 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tangchen: I have replied to your spec about host maintenance mode, afraid I don't understand from the spec what you expect the code to do | 09:32 |
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| PaulMurray | tdurakov, hi | 09:33 |
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| tdurakov | about live-migration: there is a lot of work scheduled in this area for mitaka, so what about makin sub-team for that | 09:34 |
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| PaulMurray | yes, that is a good idea - actually johnthetubaguy and I were more or less going that way | 09:35 |
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| PaulMurray | what are you involved in - I think it was your ML thread about CI right? | 09:35 |
| tdurakov | PaulMurray: yep, have chat with johnthetubaguy about, he ok with that too:) | 09:35 |
| tdurakov | PaulMurray, yep, CI, and spec for code | 09:36 |
| tdurakov | for mitaka | 09:36 |
| danpb | i dunno that we need a formal sub-team | 09:36 |
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| tdurakov | i've also pushed some patches to tempest | 09:36 |
| danpb | alot of the work is fairly independent & planning can be handled in normal nova meetings when needed imho | 09:36 |
| PaulMurray | danpb, you think were doing fine as we are | 09:36 |
| danpb | IMHO we should avoid adding bureaucracy unless there's a compelling benefit | 09:37 |
| PaulMurray | Maybe we can do something more low key | 09:37 |
| PaulMurray | the intel and rackspace guys were organising bug work between themselves | 09:37 |
| danpb | the etherpad tracking all the related efforts and mailing list discussions are the most important bits | 09:37 |
| tdurakov | danpb, it's not about bureacracy, i thought it could help with coordination | 09:37 |
| PaulMurray | and I'm not sure anyone else knew | 09:38 |
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| PaulMurray | so making sure things are on the etherpads is at least a good step | 09:38 |
| PaulMurray | and maybe making a clear place to put it | 09:39 |
| danpb | keeping discussions on the mailing list is also important imho | 09:39 |
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| danpb | if you move it to a sub-team irc meeting then in becomes invisible to most of the nova contributors who don't attend | 09:39 |
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| tdurakov | danpb, so, how make things easier? | 09:40 |
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| tdurakov | where for example i can find link for etherpad with live-migration ideas?) | 09:40 |
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| tdurakov | PaulMurray, | 09:41 |
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| PaulMurray | tdurakov, what I started on with johnthetubaguy was to see if we could get some sort of priority status for migration work in mitaka | 09:42 |
| PaulMurray | for that it seems we need to know what is being done and who is interested | 09:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I think the best start is to create a subteam entry in here, for code reviews: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-priorities-tracking | 09:42 |
| PaulMurray | and most importantly, which cores can be looked to for reviews | 09:43 |
| danpb | yeah, making it a priority item would seem valuable given the level of interest in tit | 09:43 |
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| PaulMurray | so I think we have established there is intereste and a whole lot of work | 09:43 |
| PaulMurray | going on | 09:43 |
| PaulMurray | so lets make it easy for people to find their way into | 09:43 |
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| johnthetubaguy | and then also create a list of specs in here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-spec-review-tracking create a little list under technical debt for live-migrate stuff | 09:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | so I think its a good candidate for a priority item, we have that summit session to debate that list. | 09:44 |
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| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy, can i add my spec to the list too?) | 09:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: anyone can add to the etherpads, so yes | 09:45 |
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| PaulMurray | so johnthetubaguy, I wasn't sure where to put a sub-section on those pages - ah - its changeing as I look - I think that's you typing johnthetubaguy | 09:46 |
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| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: yeah, just added that in at the bottom | 09:48 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, could group the migration specs on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-spec-review-tracking | 09:48 |
| PaulMurray | they are scattered over the place now | 09:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: yes, please do group them, I think under the technical debt section, see the SRIOV list, as an example | 09:50 |
| PaulMurray | ok - I'll do that now | 09:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: tdurakov: so an idea, do we want to focus on "live-migration" or on "host maintenance workflows"? | 09:50 |
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| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy, host maintenance workflows == long-running-tasks? | 09:51 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: no, I am thinking more about including ways folks maintain their fleet of servers, in general | 09:52 |
| bauzas | danpb: why do you think subteams are bureaucracy ? IMHO, it's an really cool thing for having people discussing | 09:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: so document how you do your fleet management, include some blueprints we have around mark host down exposing the server state | 09:52 |
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| bauzas | and really not something paperworkiong | 09:52 |
| kashyap | bauzas: I think he's focusing on getting work done, rather being tied up in paperwork, if I'm reading correctly | 09:52 |
| bauzas | anyone can go to a subteam meeting if he wants to know about the discussions | 09:52 |
| tdurakov | PaulMurray, added spec to other section, please join it to new section too | 09:53 |
| bauzas | honestly, it's not a paperwork | 09:53 |
| tdurakov | bauzas, +1 | 09:53 |
| bauzas | I'm really happy to see people going to the sched meeting if they want to discuss about scheduling | 09:53 |
| kashyap | bauzas: I'm not making a blanket statement it is :-) | 09:53 |
| tdurakov | at least i supposed that when talked about subteam | 09:53 |
| danpb | bauzas: you say anyone can go to a subteam meeting, but in reality that's not practical | 09:54 |
| PaulMurray | tdurakov, did I get the one you want in there? | 09:54 |
| bauzas | at least, we have a very cool way to know all the efforts re: to a subteam | 09:54 |
| bauzas | for example, I went to the API meeting and I saw all the discussions in there | 09:54 |
| danpb | with the number of subteams you'd be in meetings all the time | 09:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | if done badly, you end up with lots of paperwork, and hiding your efforts, done well, you get great collaboration between lots of different folks across the globe, its exactly why I don't "manage" sub groups, its up to the sub group to find what works for them, which maybe be "do nothing" | 09:54 |
| bauzas | by looking at the etherpad section for API, I was knowing the consensus | 09:55 |
| danpb | so every time we create a sub-team it ends up silo-ing the discussions to only people in that subteam | 09:55 |
| tdurakov | PaulMurray, yep, thanks | 09:55 |
| danpb | making it broadly invisible to the rest of the community | 09:55 |
| bauzas | it's not siloing | 09:55 |
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| bauzas | we have open meetings | 09:55 |
| bauzas | we also provide a list of BPs we want to work for the cycle | 09:55 |
| bauzas | we can also discuss about any documentation problem | 09:55 |
| bauzas | trying to see how we could have some low-hanging-fruits too | 09:56 |
| * PaulMurray its all kicking off now ! | 09:56 | |
| tangchen | tdurakov, johnthetubaguy, IIUC, host maintenance mode is a mode the host will be in if we want to do some system or hardware upgrade. So I thought we should disable compute service and migrate all VMs out. | 09:56 |
| bauzas | that kind of stuff that can't be done during the main nova meeting because we don't have so much time | 09:56 |
| bauzas | like here - live migration | 09:56 |
| bauzas | we know that we have lots of discussions coming in | 09:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | tangchen: so disabling the host does most of what you want | 09:57 |
| tdurakov | tangchen, yes, it is | 09:57 |
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| bauzas | without having a subteam with meetings, it would be very difficult for me to knowing any consensus | 09:57 |
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| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, did someone make it so you can't force to host when its in maintenance mode? | 09:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | tangchen: but we don't want the move all the VMs orchestration in Nova, its already been added in python-novaclient to make that easier | 09:57 |
| bauzas | if no subteam, I'd have to haress any guys that I know to know what was discuss internally | 09:57 |
| tangchen | tdurakov, johnthetubaguy, Really? Disabling compute service will migrate VMs ? | 09:58 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tangchen: no, I am saying moving all the VMs its out of scope for nova | 09:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | tangchen: disabling the host tells folks something is about to happen | 09:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | tangchen: I am specifically thinking about this bit: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/project_scope.html#no-more-orchestration | 09:58 |
| tangchen | Would you please tell me which novaclient command will migrate all VMs ? | 09:59 |
| tangchen | OK, I'm reading the URL | 09:59 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, I was about to say that - how far does the "host maintenance workflows" go in you rmind | 09:59 |
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| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: yeah, I think part of that is about agreeing how all this should be done | 10:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | tangchen: will dig that up, one sec | 10:00 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, I would be keen to keep what we are doing for migration focused right now | 10:00 |
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| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, I think your comment hit me from left field and I need to understand it | 10:01 |
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| PaulMurray | what other workflows are you thinking of? | 10:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: yeah, I think its the correct short term focus, I am thinking about bringing a few threads of activity together I guess, that may be a bad idea... | 10:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: I was thinking of a few specs we have to tell en users about the current state of the host your instance is on, warning of pending maintenance, and that kind of thing | 10:02 |
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| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy, PaulMurray, maybe start from live-migrations first, on the other hand, this activities could be done in parallel | 10:03 |
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| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, maybe bring it up under a seperate title - rather than grouping them together | 10:03 |
| PaulMurray | I think people understand that migration is involved, but it is much sider | 10:04 |
| PaulMurray | s/sider/wider/ | 10:04 |
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| tdurakov | PaulMurray, agreed | 10:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/f1ea28349bb8e3a79457137e4d06bb599b30b6c6/novaclient/v2/contrib/host_evacuate_live.py#L63 | 10:05 |
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| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy, yep, tangchen maybe:) | 10:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | oops, | 10:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | tangchen: https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/f1ea28349bb8e3a79457137e4d06bb599b30b6c6/novaclient/v2/contrib/host_evacuate_live.py#L63 | 10:05 |
| tangchen | johnthetubaguy, yes, I saw that | 10:06 |
| tangchen | Thank you very much | 10:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tangchen: happy to help, totally agree we need to solve the problem you are facing, its more a question of how we implement it | 10:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tangchen: it all boils down to nova growing too big, as a project, and having to draw hard lines in places so we don't just keep growing bigger and bigger! | 10:07 |
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| tangchen | johnthetubaguy: I agree. If I want to talk about it more, should I keep talking here ? Looks like you are about to talk about live-migration todo list | 10:08 |
| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy, PaulMurray, i think we need 2 things for live-migration subteam or whether it would be named. track progress and meetup to discuss current activities. | 10:08 |
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| tdurakov | we have etherpad now | 10:09 |
| tdurakov | :) | 10:09 |
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| PaulMurray | danpb, are you going to tokyo? | 10:11 |
| danpb | PaulMurray: yep | 10:11 |
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| PaulMurray | good - so we can sort more out then | 10:12 |
| bauzas | tdurakov: honestly, the first step would be a virtual meet-and-greet | 10:12 |
| bauzas | then, you could see which areas are worth of interest | 10:12 |
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| jaypipes | sdague: if you have a moment.. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223235/ | 10:13 |
| kashyap | Etherpad content from PaulMurray seem to pretty solidly describe the potential focus areas | 10:13 |
| PaulMurray | tdurakov, lets see how it shakes out at the summit - I agree about coordination - it might make sense for some activities to have IRC meets, so we can see what people think when we get there | 10:14 |
| tdurakov | PaulMurray, ok, let discuss that at the summit | 10:15 |
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| tdurakov | PaulMurray, last week top for multinode-job, btw: http://xsnippet.org/361075/ | 10:17 |
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| tangchen | tdurakov, Would you please share the etherpad address ? You mean that etherpad, a web page that you can edit your own thing, right ? | 10:18 |
| tdurakov | tangchen, i was talking about that https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-spec-review-tracking there is a section for live-migration now | 10:19 |
| PaulMurray | tangchen, there is more detail at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-live-migration | 10:20 |
| tangchen | tdurakov, Thanks. May I have a section for host maintenance mode ? | 10:20 |
| tangchen | PaulMurray, Thank you very much. :) looking at it. | 10:21 |
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| tdurakov | tangchen, as johnthetubaguy said, it's free to add, i think he wouldn't mind | 10:21 |
| tangchen | Thank you | 10:21 |
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| sdague | jaypipes: caffinating and looking | 10:25 |
| sdague | alex_xu: you up and about? | 10:26 |
| sdague | I had a question about why some of the routes seem to be declared twice in the wsgi stack | 10:26 |
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| alex_xu | sdague: I'm here | 10:26 |
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| alex_xu | sdague: do you have example? | 10:26 |
| alex_xu | kashyap: yea :) | 10:28 |
| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: sdague: alex_xu: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235092/ is a prototype for generating api doc from tempest.log | 10:28 |
| sdague | yeh, one sec | 10:28 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: cool, thanks | 10:28 |
| sdague | alex_xu: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/338d884970b900264546ef3d3fc91dafeb9f29c3/nova/api/openstack/compute/server_metadata.py#L190 | 10:28 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: will take a look at later | 10:28 |
| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: sdague: alex_xu: glad if getting feedback from you guys ;) | 10:28 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: thanks :) | 10:28 |
| sdague | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/338d884970b900264546ef3d3fc91dafeb9f29c3/nova/api/openstack/compute/__init__.py#L143 | 10:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Deepak C Shetty (deepakcs) proposed openstack/nova-specs: Move volume-snapshot-improvements spec to Mitaka https://review.openstack.org/231467 | 10:28 |
| sdague | I was trying to unwind the optional bits here | 10:29 |
| alex_xu | sdague: I guess it for add 'update_all' action | 10:29 |
| sdague | sorry, I was trying to figure out what it would take to make project_id optional, the metadata routes don't use resources | 10:29 |
| sdague | alex_xu: right, but why twice | 10:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: would it be possible to use that more as a check for the docs generated from the nova code? | 10:29 |
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| deepakcs | johnthetubaguy: thanks for your review, I uploaded the bp w/ copy (not move), pls bless when u have time . https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231467/ | 10:29 |
| alex_xu | sdague: emm....yea, I guess that is a mistake | 10:30 |
| sdague | oh.... wait | 10:31 |
| sdague | the __init__ one is the v2 controller | 10:31 |
| sdague | I missed that the first time | 10:31 |
| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: nice point. the prototype can generate most part of api doc, but it is necessary to write descriptions of each parameters from json-schema definitions of nova's code. | 10:31 |
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| sdague | ok, that makes a ton more sense then | 10:31 |
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| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: current json-schema defintions don't contain descriptions of each parameters. so we need to add them on nova side | 10:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: I like the idea of use being able to check tempest is covering all the stuff the code says should be there, etc | 10:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: yeah, I am fine with us adding descriptions and things, somehow, if that helps easy doc generation | 10:33 |
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| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: one idea is that tempest's external plugin interface can get code from the other projects. | 10:33 |
| alex_xu | sdague: which __init__? | 10:34 |
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| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: so if putting the definitions where tempest can get, tempest will generate all part of api doc. | 10:34 |
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| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: I would rather they all lived in the nova tree | 10:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: that way all the docs get added in the same commit as the API being added, so its harder for us to forget and get out of sync | 10:35 |
| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: or providing these info via json-home | 10:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: DNM: Making project_id optional in v2.1 urls https://review.openstack.org/233076 | 10:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: docs are more important to me than json-home, but yes, we would need all that data to be able to do json-home | 10:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/python-novaclient: make project_id optional in urls for version discovery https://review.openstack.org/234782 | 10:37 |
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| sdague | alex_xu: nova/api/openstack/__init__.py | 10:37 |
| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: I also, because my purpose of json-home is ideal api doc for users. | 10:37 |
| oomichi | if users can get the api doc, the way is not matter. | 10:38 |
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| alex_xu | sdague: you mean APIRouter? that is for v2 | 10:38 |
| sdague | alex_xu: yeh | 10:38 |
| sdague | that was what I missed before having enough coffee | 10:38 |
| sdague | I was git grepping for mapper.connect | 10:39 |
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| alex_xu | sdague: ok :) | 10:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: I just think we need to focus on getting the docs into swagger, everything else is secondary right now I feel | 10:39 |
| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: that is also a nice option. | 10:40 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: I guess if we want to put all the thing for generate doc into json-home, it must need extend json-home. | 10:40 |
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| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: my point is that it is nice to apply the same way to all projects(not only nova) by tempest way. | 10:41 |
| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: I guess it is difficult to implement swagger way on all projects | 10:42 |
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| oomichi | anyways, there are Pros/Cons on each way | 10:42 |
| oomichi | nice to think about that | 10:43 |
| alex_xu | that sounds nice point | 10:43 |
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| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: so I think swagger is what the docs team have chosen to get a common format between all the project | 10:43 |
| alex_xu | but if so, why we not return swagger instead of json-home, sounds like swagger totally can instead of json-home | 10:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: there a few different methods to generate the swagger per project, for the different tech each one is using, as I understand it | 10:44 |
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| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: at this point, we need to generate swagger from somewhere, I think | 10:44 |
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| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: ah, I see. swagger seems nice because of chosen way from doc team :) | 10:46 |
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| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: yeah, it gives them all the tooling they need, as I understand it | 10:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, a lot of the tooling anyways | 10:49 |
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| * bauzas is not on Friday, fortunately because if not, he could have said "WSME" | 10:51 | |
| * bauzas jk | 10:52 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Added server tags support in nova-api https://review.openstack.org/128940 | 11:00 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: yeah, that was totally popping into my head as well | 11:01 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: honestly, I worked with it a couple of years ago, and I feel swagger is a nicer move | 11:03 |
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| bauzas | but I was like with the 0.5 version | 11:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: yeah, swagger seems like a good choice right now, and its already been made for us really. | 11:03 |
| bauzas | anyway, I don't want to troll, that's something which should be discussed elsewhere :) | 11:04 |
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| sdague | alex_xu / oomichi : also removing v3mode is now fine, right - https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/1d5ce2e070333c28af3c9bdfac6d5354d0b610c6/nova/api/openstack/__init__.py#L331 | 11:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Bartosz Fic proposed openstack/nova: Live migration fails when the instance has a config_drive_format=iso9660 https://review.openstack.org/234659 | 11:07 |
| tangchen | johnthetubaguy, tdurakov, PaulMurray, Sorry, one more question about host maintenance mode. I think we should ensure all migrations are finished successfully, and then set the host to maintenance mode. For now in Nova, is there any to know if a migration is finished successfully ? Of course, we can monitor migration status. But there is no monitor implemented in compute or conductor, right ? | 11:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tangchen: its generally monitored by polling the API status for the servers you are migrating | 11:08 |
| tangchen | johnthetubaguy, I'm sorry, how to poll the API status ? | 11:09 |
| oomichi | sdague: yeah, most v3 code can be removed since mitaka now | 11:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | tangchen: hmm, its not been added in that specific python-novaclient method, let me find another example | 11:10 |
| oomichi | sdague: including v3mode | 11:10 |
| sdague | oomichi: yeh, in looking at this router code, I noticed it. I'll clean it up later. | 11:10 |
| tangchen | johnthetubaguy, Thanks. Waiting for you answer. | 11:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: sdague: we are technically under the 6 month limit for deprecation, but I am OK with removing it now I feel. | 11:11 |
| sdague | v3mode ? | 11:11 |
| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: v3mode is not config option, just argument | 11:11 |
| sdague | I guess when did we actually trop v3 from paste.ini | 11:11 |
| oomichi | sdague: cool | 11:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | tangchen: its not for live-migrate, but this is the one for migrate: https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/master/novaclient/v2/shell.py#L1620 | 11:12 |
| oomichi | sdague: yeah, we can remove APIRouterV3 also together | 11:13 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/fe057636a5eb5b95d03c15f13fff20f76b049d6c - yeh, aug 28th | 11:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: right, just wondering if it gets used by the APIRouterV3 or something? | 11:13 |
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| sdague | so 3 months is nov 28th | 11:13 |
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| sdague | I'm fine waiting until then | 11:13 |
| sdague | the deprecation rules were 1 cycle && 3 months | 11:13 |
| sdague | we have 1 cycle, so we just need to wait for 3 months | 11:14 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: when is M1? | 11:14 |
| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: oops, I misunderstood deprecation timing. sorry about that | 11:15 |
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| tangchen | johnthetubaguy, Understood. Thank you. :) | 11:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Marian Horban proposed openstack/nova: Remove wsgi functionality https://review.openstack.org/219248 | 11:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: one sec, will check | 11:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: 1st december https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mitaka_Release_Schedule | 11:18 |
| sdague | ok, so we'll do it in M2 | 11:23 |
| sdague | and be safe | 11:23 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: yeah, that works | 11:31 |
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| tdurakov | tangchen, sorry, was at lunch, nova instance-action-list {instance} maybe useful | 11:36 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: +1 that should have more details on errors | 11:39 |
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| alex_xu | sdague: +1 for remove v3 | 11:52 |
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| tangchen | tdurakov, Thank you. Looking at it. :) | 12:03 |
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| tdurakov | tangchen, yes, when you get req_id, you could also use nova instance-action instance_id req_id. there should be traces and all info you need | 12:04 |
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| tangchen | johnthetubaguy, tdurakov, Sure. Thank you. :) | 12:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: Image meta: treat legacy vmware adapter type values https://review.openstack.org/235303 | 12:45 |
| garyk1 | johnthetubaguy: danpb: can you please look at ^. this is a blocking issue for us in liberty | 12:45 |
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| johnthetubaguy | garyk1: can you add a test to confirm the breakage/fix please? | 12:46 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: so, the project_id optionality looks like it might not be too bad, I'm down to 4 failures here - http://logs.openstack.org/79/233079/3/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/5351016/console.html - 1 I think is a race, and the other 3 are this alt tenant set of tests in tempest which are kind of suspect | 12:46 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: thats sweet | 12:47 |
| ankit_ag | Hi Cores, Can someone please help reviewing https://review.openstack.org/185549 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194063/ | 12:47 |
| ankit_ag | Thanks in advance | 12:47 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: mostly I think the tempest tests are incorrectly actually testing the thing they want to test | 12:48 |
| sdague | they are super old tests | 12:48 |
| garyk1 | johnthetubaguy: ok, i'll try | 12:48 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: yeah, I don't really know those tests, is it like tenant A trying to access tenant B's server? | 12:52 |
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| sdague | well, it's tenant A trying to create a thing in tenant B by changing the url | 12:53 |
| sdague | which obviously doesn't really do a thing if the project_id is no longer in the urls, you just create with the project_id in your token | 12:53 |
| sdague | so it's expecting 400, but getting a resource in it's own project | 12:53 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: ah, right | 12:55 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: yeah, I am with you, its the test thats suspect, I guess we had a bug at some point! | 12:56 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: yeh, probably | 12:56 |
| sdague | the concept is good | 12:56 |
| sdague | the implementation probably just needs to not make certain assumptions | 12:57 |
| sdague | mtreinish was fine with me putting those on a skip, but I want to figure out if there is a better way to fix the test assumptions | 12:58 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: maybe try use it as an admin token, like do the reboot of another tenants server? | 12:58 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: no, these are really simple tests | 13:01 |
| sdague | well, surface tests | 13:01 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234758/1/tempest/api/compute/test_authorization.py,cm | 13:02 |
| sdague | that's the skip patch that would get past those | 13:02 |
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| sdague | I still need to figure out if /v2.1/{project_id} is going to be a thing that can be made to work at the same time as making project_id optional | 13:03 |
| sdague | because right now it causes some bad route collisions | 13:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova-specs: Versioned notification API https://review.openstack.org/224755 | 13:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: Image meta: treat legacy vmware adapter type values https://review.openstack.org/235303 | 13:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova-specs: No more soft delete https://review.openstack.org/184645 | 13:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: hmm, gotcha, its all the create ones that fail, fair enough | 13:08 |
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| garyk1 | danpb: johnthetubaguy: i added unit tests | 13:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: route collisions? whats coliding | 13:08 |
| garyk1 | danpb: not sure that i understood your question | 13:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Add some tests for map_dev https://review.openstack.org/215568 | 13:10 |
| danpb | in the case where vmwareadaptertype is "", we don't want to store "" as the hw_scsi_model - we should leave it unset | 13:10 |
| danpb | as "" is not a valid model | 13:10 |
| garyk1 | correct, that is what i have done in the patch | 13:10 |
| danpb | garyk1: that's not what i see | 13:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Add some tests for map_dev https://review.openstack.org/215568 | 13:11 |
| garyk1 | danpb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235303/2/nova/objects/image_meta.py,cm - line 392 - will only be set if the value is set, that is not None or '' | 13:12 |
| danpb | garyk1: oh actually i'm reading it backwwards | 13:12 |
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| garyk1 | i could adda comment to try and make it more clear | 13:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Add some tests for map_dev https://review.openstack.org/215568 | 13:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Wait for device to be mapped https://review.openstack.org/215613 | 13:13 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: distinguishing between /v2.1/{project_id} and /v2.1/servers | 13:23 |
| sdague | it's probably just about getting the ordering right | 13:23 |
| sdague | but ordering is ... interesting ... | 13:23 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: oh, you mean if the project_id = servers? | 13:25 |
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| sdague | right, it confuses the 2 | 13:25 |
| sdague | because of the way the routes modules matches variables | 13:25 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: could we just match on the token, if its the tenant-id in the token, use it, else assume its missing? | 13:26 |
| sdague | and sentinels, honestly, it's probably solvable, but I did hit that issue | 13:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: or is that the wrong point of the pipeline? | 13:26 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: it comes back to this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234782/3/novaclient/v2/versions.py,cm | 13:27 |
| sdague | today GET /v2.1/ returns a version document | 13:27 |
| sdague | GET /v2.1/{project_id}/servers returns all servers | 13:27 |
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| sdague | GET /v2.1/{project_id} returns a 404 | 13:27 |
| sdague | the endpoint for a logged in user is .../v2.1/{project_id} | 13:28 |
| sdague | novaclient has all kinds of hardcoding to know to GET /v2.1/ that assumes it's stripping off a project id | 13:28 |
| sdague | even though that's never a pointer or construct that we give to people | 13:29 |
| sdague | I was attempting to see if we could make both GET /v2.1/{project_id} (i.e. GET keystone endpoint returned today), and endpoints without project_id work at the same time | 13:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | maybe we should just make GET /v2.1/{project_id}/servers return the version document that GET /v2.1/ returns? | 13:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | oops | 13:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | GET /v2.1/{project_id} == GET /v2.1/ | 13:30 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: right | 13:31 |
| sdague | that's what I'm trying to do | 13:31 |
| sdague | but the way the mapper is built up, doing that the naive way means that it's eating /v2.1/servers | 13:32 |
| sdague | as well | 13:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | honestly, I think the service catalog entry will need a brand new name once we remove the project-id | 13:32 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: sure | 13:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh, now I see | 13:32 |
| sdague | but in order to make the transition the nova code has to do *both* | 13:32 |
| sdague | for some period of time | 13:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | right, gotcha | 13:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | can middlewere re-write the request URL? | 13:32 |
| sdague | and that period is probably pretty long, like 3+ cycles | 13:33 |
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| johnthetubaguy | it feels like forever, if I am honest | 13:33 |
| sdague | sure | 13:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | or until we raise the min_version | 13:33 |
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| johnthetubaguy | but thats not really the point | 13:33 |
| sdague | right, yeh, that's fine, I'm not planning for remove path, mostly just making some things better | 13:33 |
| sdague | and the amount of code to go both ways is pretty minimal | 13:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, totally with you on that | 13:34 |
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| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233076/ | 13:34 |
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| johnthetubaguy | oh... we statically wire up the mapper | 13:35 |
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| sdague | honestly, I think a piece of this is the versioninfo url, which rax provides in the service catalog (but doesn't work) is a key concept we might want to bring into future version catalogs | 13:35 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: well, mostly it's the resource registration | 13:36 |
| sdague | but there are a few fully manual places as well | 13:36 |
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| sdague | like the metadata bits (which, I honestly am not sure why), and version urls (which makes sense) | 13:36 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: maybe they are the only bits where we have hierarchy right now? | 13:40 |
| dansmith | garyk1: did you see my question for you on a spec yesterday? | 13:40 |
| mriedem | dansmith: garyk: this fixes the webob 1.5 issue on kilo and opens kilo for 2015.1.3 - which blocks each other https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234282/ | 13:42 |
| dansmith | man, webob really screwed us | 13:43 |
| mriedem | well, we screwed ourselves kind of | 13:43 |
| mriedem | but we can blame webob sure :) | 13:43 |
| garyk1 | dansmith: no, i'll take a look | 13:44 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: just a stable branch policy question by reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234282/3 | 13:48 |
| garyk1 | dansmith: can you please let me know which spec | 13:48 |
| bauzas | mriedem: so you backported to K the L backport, but why not directly backporting the M change? | 13:48 |
| dansmith | yeah, lemme find it | 13:48 |
| garyk1 | thanks | 13:48 |
| bauzas | mriedem: is it something not agreed ? | 13:48 |
| dansmith | garyk1: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195662/ | 13:49 |
| garyk1 | dansmith: ok, thanks, will take alook | 13:49 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: nvm :( | 13:50 |
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| mriedem | bauzas: no it was from M to K | 13:50 |
| mriedem | but squashed with the version bump for kilo since we just released 2015.1.2 | 13:51 |
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| mriedem | so k and L have different squashed commits | 13:51 |
| bauzas | mriedem: yeah that's what I saw | 13:51 |
| bauzas | call me dumb | 13:51 |
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| mriedem | i will not | 13:55 |
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| garyk1 | dansmith: it is interesting. we do something similar today but it is for datastore/host selection. for example the storage based policy management. there may be a cinder device that is marked as gold. or in the oracle case a instance/disk needs to be places on a certain host that has an oracle license (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210810/) | 14:00 |
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| garyk1 | i need to check the vmware api's to see if there is something which we can actually use here | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | nova meeting time in #openstack-meeting mikal tjones cburgess jgrimm adrian_otto funzo mjturek jcookekhugen irina_pov krtaylor danpb alexpilotti flip214 jaypipes garyk edleafe dims moshele anteaya Nisha sileht claudiub lxsli neiljerram markus_z swamireddy alevine tonyb andreykurilin ndipanov sc68cal akuriata artom jlvillal mnestratov kashyap aloga rgeragnov bauzas xyang tpatil med_ nic scottda nagyz dannywilson belliott dguitarbite | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague jroll diana_clarke _diana_ raildo jichen | 14:01 |
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| dansmith | garyk1: well, you'd have to implement the driver side of this, but yes, I want to know if you can and also if you will | 14:01 |
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| garyk1 | dansmith: sure, understood. i need to dig in a little deeper and then i'll let you know if i can commit (if relevant I will). | 14:02 |
| dansmith | garyk1: thanks | 14:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Replace N block_device_mapping queries with 1 https://review.openstack.org/229964 | 14:13 |
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| garyk1 | dansmith: i think that the spec has some overlap with https://review.openstack.org/128940 - that already provides tags for instances. no clear why we need another api. maybe it is just a way of combining them. | 14:16 |
| garyk1 | danpb: ^ regarding the guest tagging | 14:16 |
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| dansmith | garyk1: the guest device tagging is for specific devices in the guest, completely unrelated to tagging of the instance itself | 14:16 |
| garyk1 | would that not be a subnet of an instance tag? | 14:17 |
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| danpb | garyk1: yeah that's completely unrelated to instance tags | 14:17 |
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| danpb | we're not actually looking to add new apis for this either | 14:18 |
| danpb | we're just adding a tag parameter to various existing APIs for disks, nics & pci devices | 14:18 |
| danpb | so that we can record per-device tags | 14:18 |
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| dansmith | danpb: right, but this will introduce new driver APIs, yes? | 14:18 |
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| danpb | dansmith: you mean virt/driver.py APIs ? | 14:19 |
| dansmith | yes | 14:19 |
| danpb | not 100% sure yet - there may well be one | 14:19 |
| garyk1 | danpb: dansmith: i can see value for the vmware driver for the disk tagging. i need to dig deeper for the nic tagging. | 14:19 |
| danpb | alternatively the virt driver may call out to other shared code to provide the data | 14:19 |
| dansmith | danpb: virt driver has to either honor ordering or barf up the topology right? | 14:19 |
| danpb | dansmith: yeah, its just a question of whether we have something query that data from the virt driver | 14:20 |
| danpb | or whether we have the virt driver push the data to something | 14:20 |
| dansmith | danpb: even just honoring ordering isn't really enough actually, you need to know where the virt driver is going to put each nic in the pci topology, AFAIK | 14:20 |
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| dansmith | danpb: seems unlikely that we can push it and achieve optimal results, if libvirt wants each nic on a separate bus and vmware can't do that (or something) | 14:20 |
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| danpb | garyk1: from the virt driver POV, you need to be able to find out what PCI, SCSI, USB device addresses are assigned | 14:20 |
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| danpb | and other bits of metadata like MAC address & disk serial string | 14:21 |
| danpb | its all ultimately optional, so if there's some bits vmware can't provide its not a huge deal | 14:21 |
| dansmith | I suppose for nic, we can omit the pci bit and just key on mac | 14:21 |
| dansmith | but I think we need the virt driver for the disk serial, right? | 14:21 |
| danpb | yeah that'd be the minimum acceptable data for a nic | 14:21 |
| danpb | yeah, virt driver needs to tell us that | 14:22 |
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| artom | dansmith, didn't you yourself keep saying MACs aren't unique? | 14:22 |
| garyk1 | danpb: at the moment we do not have any PCI, SCSI or USB support exposed. | 14:22 |
| dansmith | claudiub: see this discussion? I wanted you to weigh in on this as well | 14:22 |
| artom | So not really key-able | 14:22 |
| dansmith | artom: they're surely not, correct | 14:22 |
| garyk1 | but in the short term i see value in the disk tags | 14:22 |
| danpb | artom: that doesn't matter in this scenario | 14:23 |
| danpb | artom: we're just exposing a bunch of metadata to the guest | 14:23 |
| danpb | whether the MAC address are unique or not is not a blocking factor on what we expose | 14:23 |
| artom | danpb? No? What if we have two NICs with the same MAC connected to different networks each with its own tag (because insanity) | 14:23 |
| danpb | ...it merely affects how useful it is to the guest OS | 14:24 |
| garyk1 | danpb: my concern for the nics is that neutron may already have this information and we may be duplicating it | 14:24 |
| artom | We still need to tell the guest the correct tag for each NIC | 14:24 |
| dansmith | garyk1: but this is for the guest | 14:24 |
| danpb | garyk1: neutron has no input inot the guest at all | 14:24 |
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| danpb | s/inot/into/ | 14:24 |
| garyk1 | danpb: no, it does not have any inputs but neutron extensions may expose this data | 14:25 |
| danpb | these tags are completely arbitrarily decided by the user and don't have any connection to any names/tags neutron might have | 14:25 |
| dansmith | danpb: did you have the neutron network id in the nic blob? because with that, the guest can line up their tag with the network | 14:25 |
| artom | danpb, I'm thinking, for example, nova boot --nic net-id=bar,tag=private,mac=FF --nic-id=baz,tag=public,mac=FF | 14:25 |
| dansmith | danpb: actually, nevermind, | 14:25 |
| dansmith | they did that on request | 14:25 |
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| danpb | artom: that's not a problem - if they user chooses to do that that's fine | 14:25 |
| danpb | artom: they just have to be aware the metadata expose to the guest will obviously have dup macs so they can't then use the mac as a unique identifier | 14:26 |
| artom | danpb, right, but if we mix up the NICs and give private to baz, that's not right | 14:26 |
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| danpb | artom: if that's an important factor for the user, then they cannot use the mac | 14:26 |
| artom | Or is that not what you meant when you said 'key on MAC' | 14:27 |
| danpb | artom: they are in control over how the guest OS they run works & what tags they provide | 14:27 |
| dansmith | and that's why pci info is important | 14:27 |
| dansmith | if and where we can support it | 14:27 |
| danpb | so if they want their guest OS to setup based on the MAC tag, then they need to not give their guest dup macs | 14:27 |
| danpb | if they want to use dup macs, then their guest OS must rely on PCI info instead | 14:27 |
| artom | dansmith, danpb, gotcha. | 14:28 |
| dansmith | danpb: we could also have the virt driver fail to start a guest with dup macs if it hasn't implemented pci topo information | 14:28 |
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| danpb | dansmith: i don't think so | 14:28 |
| artom | So nova will just say "here's what I can tell you about the virtual hardware, and here's the tag you gave each one. If that's not enough for you, tough luck." | 14:28 |
| dansmith | danpb: why not? | 14:28 |
| artom | dansmith, that seems harsh... | 14:28 |
| danpb | dansmith: it could be valid to give the guest the same MAC in two nics and not care about it, if the two nics were used for the same purpose | 14:28 |
| danpb | dansmith: eg the guest OS might simply bond together the two NICs with matching macs | 14:29 |
| dansmith | danpb: sure, you'd allow it if they're on the same network, but if they're not there's almost no reason to allow that | 14:29 |
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| * bauzas shouldn't never try to google mriedem's remarks when he doesn't know the translation :) | 14:29 | |
| danpb | or simply wish to serve the same (HTTP) data on both NICs | 14:29 |
| bauzas | oh boy, youtube link | 14:29 |
| mriedem | bauzas: ha | 14:29 |
| bauzas | that made my day :) | 14:30 |
| dansmith | danpb: meh, I think it'd be a fine thing to do, but whatever | 14:30 |
| danpb | IMHO nova should just focus on providing the metadata and not try to place restrictions on how it is interpreted / used | 14:30 |
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| danpb | just document any caveats that the user should be aware of | 14:31 |
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| dansmith | well, that's not MHO, but whatever.. I want to lean pretty heavily on virt drivers to provide proper topo information anyway | 14:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: WIP: add vnc section into nova configuration https://review.openstack.org/234836 | 14:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Shunya Kitada proposed openstack/nova: Add "vnc" option group for sample nova.conf file https://review.openstack.org/235396 | 14:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: WIP: make xvp into vnc group https://review.openstack.org/235398 | 14:47 |
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| markus_z | mriedem: dansmith: Another review which wants to exploit "host-maintenance-mode": https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228689/ | 14:52 |
| sfinucan | dansmith: Any chance I could get a little advice on versioning for the new Instance (V2) object? | 14:52 |
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| sfinucan | Or pointers to suitable documentation? | 14:52 |
| markus_z | mriedem: dansmith: hyperv + host-mainenance-mode: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204157/ | 14:52 |
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| dansmith | sfinucan: can you provide a little more detail about what you're looking for? | 14:54 |
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| sfinucan | Sure - I'm attempting to rebase this work https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202648/6 | 14:55 |
| sfinucan | The old instance model has been deprecated, but there doesn't seem to be any versioning code in the new model | 14:55 |
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| dansmith | sfinucan: well, no relationships | 14:55 |
| claudiub | for hyper-v, you can also set the host on maintenance mode. If the host is clustered, the VMs will then be evacuated automatically to the other nodes in the cluster, where they will be picked up by nova-compute's life cycle events, so their hosts are updated properly. | 14:55 |
| dansmith | sfinucan: give me a few minutes and I'll point you at something helpful | 14:56 |
| sfinucan | dansmith: that would be fantastic. Thank you | 14:56 |
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| bauzas | claudiub: the 'automatically' worries me :/ | 14:56 |
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| claudiub | why? | 14:56 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: WIP: add vnc section into nova configuration https://review.openstack.org/234836 | 14:57 |
| claudiub | they are live migrated | 14:57 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: WIP: make xvp into vnc group https://review.openstack.org/235398 | 14:57 |
| dansmith | yes, that's not a thing we should trigger through nova, IMHO | 14:57 |
| claudiub | or even better if hte instances are clustered. | 14:57 |
| dansmith | claudiub: does that mean that the hypervisor or node name changes visibly from outside nova after that happens? | 14:57 |
| bauzas | claudiub: because of http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/project_scope.html#no-more-orchestration | 14:57 |
| dansmith | yeah, that doesn't even really cover it completely | 14:58 |
| dansmith | it's part of it, but the orchestration isn't really inside nova in their case I think | 14:58 |
| claudiub | dansmith: you mean the instance's node name? it will be updated by the new node on which the vm was evacuated to. | 14:58 |
| claudiub | by the new node's nova-compute service * | 14:58 |
| bauzas | dansmith: what I'm not liking is the action A -> action B | 14:59 |
| bauzas | where maintenance triggers evacuation | 14:59 |
| dansmith | bauzas: yes agreed for the triggering of this | 14:59 |
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| dansmith | the things moving around underneath nova and nova-compute just absorbing it is also troubling | 14:59 |
| bauzas | oh, live-migration even | 14:59 |
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| bauzas | what I want to avoid is some internals of nova calling back the scheduler or the conductor for firing some move operations | 15:00 |
| bauzas | except for retries of course | 15:00 |
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| dansmith | well, things moving around underneath could really confuse the scheduler, | 15:00 |
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| dansmith | and it also makes me wonder how it could properly do the claim stuff | 15:01 |
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| bauzas | ++ | 15:02 |
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| dansmith | sfinucan: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220690/ | 15:08 |
| dansmith | sfinucan: I'm cleaning up that set as we speak, | 15:08 |
| dansmith | but that drops v1 support, and also all the relationship stuff | 15:08 |
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| dansmith | because in liberty we moved to a different mechanism of backporting which kinda reports everything we need to know, removing the need to do the relationship bits | 15:09 |
| dansmith | however, ideally you'd base your stuff on top of this set, and after I finish updating it (in the next hour) | 15:09 |
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| sfinucan | so if the relationship bits aren't required anymore, the Instance VERSION field shouldn't need modification? | 15:10 |
| sfinucan | Unless you modify Instance itself, of course? | 15:10 |
| sfinucan | dansmith: because the issue I'm seeing is the 'Some objects have changed dependencies.' error in 'test_objects': it expects 1.2 of 'InstanceNUMATopology' despite me having it upped it to 1.3 | 15:12 |
| dansmith | sfinucan: correct, only bump the version of the object you're changing | 15:13 |
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| dansmith | sfinucan: but the tests are kinda rigged right now to let instancev2 exist without causing that conflict | 15:13 |
| dansmith | and so you're not going to be able to pass those tests until my stuff lands that drops all that (see the patches earlier in the series) | 15:14 |
| sfinucan | dansmith: nifty. I'll rebase onto that so | 15:14 |
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| sfinucan | yes, that's what pczesno suggested | 15:15 |
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| sfinucan | dansmith: Do you think this object versioning is something that could be documented? Perhaps as a devref? | 15:15 |
| sfinucan | I'd be happy to attempt that, if so. Has taken me some time to wrap my head around heh | 15:16 |
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| dansmith | sfinucan: well, I think it's going to be massively simpler when we land this thing to delete all that stuff, and I also recently landed a review guide that had _some_ things in it | 15:17 |
| dansmith | sfinucan: but nobody is going to turn down a well-worded document about truth :) | 15:17 |
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| sfinucan | dansmith: Ha! If you could point me to that review guide, I'll see if there's anything else I can add | 15:18 |
| dansmith | sfinucan: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204653/ | 15:19 |
| sfinucan | dansmith: And it already is massivly simpler | 15:19 |
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| sfinucan | Cheers | 15:19 |
| mriedem | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/code-review.html is prettier | 15:19 |
| sfinucan | mriedem: CheersV2 | 15:20 |
| mriedem | i see what you did there | 15:20 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: new specless bp for cells v1 to support attach/detach interfaces https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/cells-v1-interface-events | 15:41 |
| mriedem | godaddy has the patch up as a bug fix, but i asked for a bp | 15:41 |
| mriedem | otherwise it's pretty straight forward | 15:41 |
| dansmith | does it enable all the tempest tests I assume we're skipping in cells? | 15:42 |
| mriedem | i also asked for that in the same change | 15:42 |
| mriedem | since we have the rc file in tree | 15:42 |
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| dansmith | okay | 15:43 |
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| mriedem | i was going through this https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-LDT-cells-patches | 15:43 |
| dansmith | in general, adding to the surface we have to test for cellsv1 goes against what we said we were going to do | 15:43 |
| edleafe | screen --list | 15:44 |
| edleafe | ack! | 15:44 |
| edleafe | it's only one dash, anyway | 15:44 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: i think these are basically ops using cells that are doing some things until v2 is a thing they can use - and are even close to getting to in their upgrades | 15:45 |
| dansmith | I know | 15:45 |
| mriedem | some of the stuff in that etherpad is not something we'd accept i don't think, like the big changes around capabilities and security group stuff | 15:45 |
| mriedem | some are actually bug fixes, just never reported to nova | 15:46 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: I'm only a bit concerned by the possible races it could create for the cells job | 15:46 |
| bauzas | mriedem: I think it's okay, but I'd like to see how we could make sure it doesn't regress the cells failures | 15:46 |
| bauzas | mriedem: even by adding more coverage | 15:47 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: so, just adding those new tempest tests should make sure that we're not regressing IMHO | 15:47 |
| mriedem | well the tests aren't new, they'd be new to the cells job runs as of this change | 15:48 |
| bauzas | I dunno, maybe running a non-voting job only for those we want to validate before putting them voting | 15:48 |
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| mriedem | which we control with the rc file so it'd be verified in the same change | 15:48 |
| mriedem | except for the neutron part of it since the cells job uses nova-net | 15:48 |
| bauzas | mriedem: that's my point | 15:48 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: that's even exactly my point | 15:48 |
| mriedem | you want a non-voting cells v1 + neutron job? | 15:48 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: I want to make sure that adding more features doesn't regress the voting job | 15:49 |
| dansmith | there is no attach interfaces for nova-net | 15:49 |
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| bauzas | orly? | 15:49 |
| dansmith | so we'd need a cells neutron job | 15:49 |
| bauzas | then... | 15:49 |
| bauzas | yeah | 15:49 |
| dansmith | which is likely several cans of worms | 15:49 |
| dansmith | just on its own | 15:49 |
| bauzas | :) | 15:50 |
| mriedem | hrm, yeah, i think vishy was trying to add that to nova-net shortly before he left | 15:50 |
| dansmith | previously we were asked not to add it | 15:50 |
| dansmith | because it created yet another reason not to use neutron :) | 15:50 |
| bauzas | then I don't understand | 15:50 |
| bauzas | is GoDaddy using Neutron ? | 15:50 |
| mriedem | yes | 15:51 |
| bauzas | heh | 15:51 |
| bauzas | haven't we said somewhere that cells was only supporting n-net ? | 15:51 |
| mriedem | see the "Neutron/secgroup fixups" list in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-LDT-cells-patches | 15:51 |
| bauzas | well, we said experimental tbh | 15:51 |
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| bauzas | so, the thing is | 15:52 |
| mriedem | fwiw rax also uses cells + neutron | 15:52 |
| mriedem | + special sauce | 15:52 |
| bauzas | either we consider that it this specless BP is an exception and shouldn't cover more than atm | 15:53 |
| bauzas | because it can't be covered now | 15:53 |
| mriedem | what does cern use? nova-net? | 15:53 |
| bauzas | or, we say that we need a coverage anyway, and then it should cover the neutron case | 15:53 |
| bauzas | mriedem: yup | 15:53 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yes, n-net | 15:53 |
| bauzas | argh, I need to pick my daughter at school | 15:53 |
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| mriedem | ccarmack: maybe another api doc thing you might want to work on, os-attach-interfaces is not doc'ed | 16:01 |
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| mriedem | the v2 extension docs do have something there for os-interface though | 16:03 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: dansmith: seems like an OK one to me | 16:03 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: you must not have read the whole convo :) | 16:04 |
| dansmith | yeah | 16:04 |
| mriedem | we do'nt have any test coverage for it | 16:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: do you have a link ot that patch handy? | 16:04 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215459/ | 16:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: the API subteam were creating a hit list, I think alex_xu has a lit | 16:05 |
| mriedem | hit list for what? | 16:06 |
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| mriedem | docs? | 16:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | sorry, yeah, docs | 16:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | api docs | 16:06 |
| mriedem | ok, i'm opening a bug anyway | 16:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: ack | 16:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: I think this is the big list of stuff that needs fixing | 16:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-v2.1-api-doc | 16:07 |
| mriedem | ccarmack: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-site/+bug/1506545 | 16:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1506545 in openstack-api-site "compute v2.1: os-attach-interfaces API is not documented" [Undecided,New] | 16:08 |
| mriedem | you beat me to the etherpad :) | 16:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | makes me feel busy while watching a meeting stream | 16:09 |
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| mriedem | stepping back on the ci coverage thing, long term we're going to want a cells + neutron job anyway aren't we? | 16:12 |
| mriedem | for v2 | 16:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: we are | 16:12 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: there are worries around the network segment thing | 16:12 |
| mriedem | alright, i wonder if i could hack that out with a devstack change | 16:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think with a single neutron for the whole cloud, it should be OK | 16:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | its tempting to add an experimental job and see if it passes... | 16:13 |
| mriedem | we can just start with a devstack DNM change i think | 16:14 |
| mriedem | like what i was trying to do with lxc | 16:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: true, I keep forgetting about that option | 16:14 |
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| mriedem | i'll check it out | 16:22 |
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| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: do you think we're going to have a priority in mitaka for just general tech debt related things? I think we could probably put a lot of upgrade stuff into that category this time | 16:31 |
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| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: thats not a bad idea, honestly | 16:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: I was thinking bits of live-migrate could slip into that | 16:32 |
| dansmith | I went there looking for a spot to put a bunch of drop-instance-v1-compat stuff and there isn't really a spot for it | 16:32 |
| dansmith | but it's stuff we have to have eyes on | 16:32 |
| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: the live-migration needs some love imo. A lot of bugs around this topic. | 16:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: honestly, I am thinking we make better use of the priorities, outside "the priorities" if that makes sense | 16:32 |
| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: would be a pity if this work would be a low prio thing | 16:32 |
| dansmith | yeah, live migration, and also some of the continued migration and resource tracker claim cleanup stuff | 16:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: we have folks lined up right now, its exciting | 16:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: yeah, that | 16:33 |
| dansmith | and the state management for migrations | 16:33 |
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| dansmith | aside from looking for a place to record those things, | 16:33 |
| dansmith | I'd like to see us approve a priority for cleaning up things in general | 16:34 |
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| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: yeah, I like that | 16:34 |
| dansmith | we've had a looming "maintenance cycle" gorilla for a few cycles now, but we should at least prioritize that, even if we're not going to focus everything on it | 16:34 |
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| johnthetubaguy | honestly, I think its what lots of users are asking for | 16:35 |
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| garyk | danpb: dansmith: i'll be happy to do the tag integrations into the vmware driver. i give my thumbs up for it | 16:41 |
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| dansmith | garyk: excellent thanks | 16:42 |
| danpb | garyk: thanks | 16:43 |
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| mriedem | maintenance gorilla | 16:48 |
| mriedem | he only smashes things | 16:48 |
| mnestratov | mriedem: Hi, could you please remove your -2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184153/ as far as bp is approved? | 16:48 |
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| mriedem | mnestratov: done | 16:49 |
| mnestratov | mriedem: thanks | 16:49 |
| mriedem | mnestratov: also, how is the virtuozzo compute CI doing now? i didn't see it here http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova | 16:49 |
| mriedem | might just need to talk to asselin about that ^ | 16:49 |
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| mnestratov | mriedem: we have broken it a week ago or so (vz bug), fixing | 16:50 |
| mriedem | ok, i guess that will probably a dependency for the snapshot change | 16:51 |
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| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy, around? | 16:51 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: hey sorry i messed up your tempest series, i didn't realize it was a series when i updated that commit message on the live migratoin instance caching change | 16:52 |
| dansmith | I can't figure out what claudiu's schedule is.. he's in eastern europe, right? | 16:53 |
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| mriedem | yeah | 16:53 |
| mriedem | he may be vampyre | 16:53 |
| tdurakov | mriedem, hi, no problem, i'll update the whole chain | 16:53 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: I am about to run off, can I help quickly? | 16:55 |
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| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy, http://xsnippet.org/361077/ http://xsnippet.org/361078/ | 16:56 |
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| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy, about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227897/ | 16:56 |
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| tdurakov | first trace from current ps, second with LOG.exception | 16:57 |
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| tdurakov | with exc_info=True | 16:57 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: maybe we need a maintenance gorilla t-shirt for tokyo... OH WAIT | 16:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: yeah, that top bit is what I was expecting | 16:57 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: I guess its an RPC cast then, from the other compute, so you see the traceback there | 16:58 |
| mriedem | dansmith: just mail it to me | 16:58 |
| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy, yep | 16:58 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: no dude you don't get one | 16:58 |
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| tdurakov | so do we need exc_info=True? | 16:58 |
| dansmith | mriedem: we don't reward slacking | 16:58 |
| mriedem | fine | 16:59 |
| mriedem | i didn't want one anyway | 16:59 |
| tdurakov | i'd prefer LOG.exception(_LE('An error occurred while deallocating network.'),instance=instance) | 16:59 |
| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy, what do you think? | 16:59 |
| tdurakov | Log.exception only i mean | 16:59 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: you can only use LOG.exception if you're in an exception handler, otherwise py34 pukes | 17:00 |
| mriedem | exc_info gets you the same results, a traceback | 17:00 |
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| mriedem | tdurakov: see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233644/ | 17:00 |
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| tdurakov | mriedem, here is the point, we don't need stack_trace here | 17:01 |
| tdurakov | we will get it anyway | 17:01 |
| tdurakov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227897/ | 17:02 |
| tdurakov | mriedem, so, leaving existing code, or leave log.error only, then? could you left some comments:) | 17:05 |
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| mriedem | commented | 17:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: so I think we decided log.excpetion was generally annoyingly verbose for error logs | 17:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | but I am clearly out of sync on some of these issues, I need to catch up on where we are going with that now | 17:07 |
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| gsilvis | johnthetubaguy: by the way, the MOC may be willing to host the Nova midcycle at Boston University this January | 17:09 |
| tdurakov | mriedem, as there is cast, and should be trace anyway, what if use LOG.error only? | 17:09 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: it's not a cast https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/network/rpcapi.py#L248 | 17:10 |
| tdurakov | mriedem, nope, i'm about rollback_live_migration_at_destination | 17:10 |
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| mriedem | tdurakov: but that's for rollback_live_migration_at_destination, not for when self.network_api.setup_networks_on_host fails | 17:12 |
| tdurakov | mriedem, ok, so then LOG.exception. only without exc_info? | 17:13 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: exc_info is implied with LOG.exception | 17:13 |
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| mriedem | tdurakov: but my other question is, why not call rollback_live_migration_at_destination from within the with excutils.save_and_reraise_exception context? | 17:13 |
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| tdurakov | it's wrapped in except section | 17:15 |
| tdurakov | mriedem | 17:15 |
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| mriedem | and? | 17:15 |
| tdurakov | do you want me to wrap the setup_networks_on_host? | 17:16 |
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| mriedem | excutils.save_and_reraise_exception is more or less for saving off the first failure, doing something, and then raising that first failure | 17:16 |
| mriedem | which is the same as what you're doing with the try/except/finally | 17:16 |
| mriedem | except your usage of excutils.save_and_reraise_exception is only to log the first exception, which is going to re-raised anyway | 17:17 |
| tdurakov | ok, let me try that, then:) | 17:17 |
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| tdurakov | mriedem, thanks for advice | 17:17 |
| mriedem | i'll post a paste of what i'm looking for | 17:17 |
| tdurakov | mriedem, could you add it as a comment for ps | 17:18 |
| mriedem | yeah | 17:18 |
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| tdurakov | thanks, it would be great:) | 17:18 |
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| mriedem | i'm not even sure you need save_and_reraise_exception, try/finally should do it | 17:24 |
| mriedem | oh wait, nvm | 17:24 |
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| mmmpork | sdague: just catching up on backscroll and i had a question about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234782/3 | 17:35 |
| mmmpork | what kind of test coverage do we have for testing version end points? | 17:35 |
| mmmpork | also hi everyone :) i'm new | 17:35 |
| mmmpork | if there's existing test coverage, does that also need to be updated for that fix? if not, would it be helpful if there was a test written to cover that case (maybe something i could put on my list to do)? | 17:36 |
| mmmpork | also "version" endpoints might be misleading, i just noticed the file was "versions.py" and the update was in the VersionsManager class, so i'm sorry if my question is a little confusing :) | 17:38 |
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| mriedem | tdurakov: i'm thinking something like this http://paste.openstack.org/show/476411/ | 17:41 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: you might want to ask lifeless if he has ideas about error handling here | 17:41 |
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| sdague | mmmpork: on the novaclient side, most of the testing is unit tests, with a smattering of functional tests (running the cli against a devstack) | 17:53 |
| sdague | for this one the unit tests need to be fixed for sure, and we'd want to force the 404 on the first url correctly in some of those | 17:53 |
| sdague | it's a big deep in internals, so I'm not sure new functional tests are a good plan or not | 17:54 |
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| sdague | I was lazy about even looking at the unit tests as I was mostly trying to figure out if I had this patch, plus some others, if I could get a whole tempest run - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233079/ | 17:56 |
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| mmmpork | sdague: ah interesting | 18:00 |
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| mmmpork | i am happy to work on a unit test patch if it's appropriate for someone new to the code base | 18:01 |
| mmmpork | but yeah sounds like functional tests might be a bit of a hairball ;) | 18:02 |
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| sdague | mmmpork: yeh, honestly, if you want to bang on trying to get the unit tests to pass there | 18:05 |
| mriedem | well not surprisingly most of the neutron tempest tests fail with cells https://jenkins06.openstack.org/job/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/20876/consoleFull | 18:05 |
| sdague | mmmpork: I honestly think it's just adding one more mock point for calling the new url which is supposed to 404 | 18:05 |
| mmmpork | sdague: is this where the test lives that needs to be updated? nova/tests/unit/api/openstack/compute/test_versions.py | 18:05 |
| mmmpork | kewl | 18:05 |
| sdague | it's a lot of fails, but they are all exactly the same fail | 18:05 |
| mmmpork | ok cool, i'll fetch your patch and see if i can fix the unit tests | 18:05 |
| cfriesen_ | what are the rules about using a CONF variable without explictly importing it? For example, in virt/libvirt/driver.py I see it using CONF.libvirt.images_type. Is the fact that it imports imagebackend sufficient? | 18:06 |
| bauzas | cfriesen_: honestly, it's bad | 18:06 |
| bauzas | cfriesen_: because it works, but it could have some problems | 18:07 |
| sdague | mmmpork: I think it's novaclient/tests/unit/v2/fakes.py | 18:07 |
| sdague | based on the fail log http://logs.openstack.org/82/234782/3/check/gate-python-novaclient-python26/3d39c02/console.html#_2015-10-15_10_42_43_561 | 18:07 |
| mmmpork | ah ok | 18:07 |
| * mmmpork should pay more attention to the jenkins results | 18:08 | |
| cfriesen_ | bauzas: the reason I ask is that I wanted to so something specific to the LVM backend in resource_tracker.py, but when I tried to do a CONF.import_opt() it choked. I'm guessing it's some sort of circular import thing. | 18:08 |
| bauzas | cfriesen_: well, without seeing the code... :) | 18:09 |
| sdague | I think it's about making another elif in the callback path | 18:09 |
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| mmmpork | kk | 18:10 |
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| mmmpork | i'm just spinning up my devstack vm right now and getting nova cloned and making sure things pass before i check out your patch | 18:11 |
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| cfriesen_ | bauzas: I added CONF.import_opt('images_type', 'nova.virt.libvirt.imagebackend', group='libvirt') in resource_tracker.py, but then when I started up nova_compute I got the following: http://paste.openstack.org/show/476414/ | 18:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Replace N block_device_mapping queries with 1 https://review.openstack.org/229964 | 18:20 |
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| lifeless | mriedem: whats the context? | 18:21 |
| lifeless | mriedem: you could use raise_with instead, which might be nice for a python3 world | 18:22 |
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| sdague | mmmpork: cool | 18:23 |
| sdague | mmmpork: though, mostly you can just tox -e py27 for this, it should run on a laptop | 18:23 |
| sdague | the unit tests that is | 18:23 |
| mmmpork | ah ok | 18:23 |
| mmmpork | i was looking at the tox ini and trying to run tox py34 | 18:24 |
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| mmmpork | ok they are running now :) | 18:28 |
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| ijuwang | hi.. can i have some feedback on https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1499091 | 18:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1499091 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Cannot create flavor with printable characters outside of 0xFFFF range" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Christine Wang (ijuwang) | 18:30 |
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| mriedem | lifeless: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227897/ | 18:31 |
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| sdague | py34 should also work, I just usually default to 27 | 18:36 |
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| mmmpork | yeah it was just slow to load up, i think it was installing deps into my venv | 18:39 |
| sdague | yeh, those take a bit | 18:40 |
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| bauzas | cfriesen_: sorry, was afk | 18:45 |
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| mriedem | tdurakov: do you mind if i update your change with what i'm looking at? | 18:49 |
| mriedem | i think it's a bit cleaner | 18:49 |
| lifeless | mriedem: wow, thats very uniodomatic today | 18:50 |
| lifeless | the try and reraise isn't being used | 18:50 |
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| mriedem | lifeless: in the way the patch is written currently? | 18:51 |
| mriedem | or my alternative? | 18:51 |
| lifeless | mriedem: in the way its currently written | 18:51 |
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| mriedem | yeah, i figured that out after looking at it a few times | 18:51 |
| lifeless | mriedem: the usual pattern is | 18:51 |
| lifeless | except Exception: | 18:51 |
| lifeless | with .. | 18:51 |
| lifeless | do the stuff we had to do | 18:52 |
| lifeless | adding comments to the review | 18:52 |
| mriedem | lifeless: yeah i'm pushing an alternative on the same thing | 18:54 |
| mriedem | it's not pretty either, but it's cleaner imo | 18:55 |
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| kashyap | sdague: mriedem (you also have some context about it): If you get a moment, care to look at this one-liner? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234286/ | 18:57 |
| lifeless | mriedem: I'd be interested in whether my thoughts there are accurate :) | 18:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: WIP: vNIC tagging https://review.openstack.org/234904 | 19:00 |
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| mriedem | lifeless: i think it's accurate, | 19:01 |
| mriedem | but i'd prefer to not use fixtures at runtime | 19:01 |
| mriedem | argh argh argh | 19:01 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: still around ? had you time to discuss with johnthetubaguy ? | 19:05 |
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| mriedem | lifeless: btw, i don't think we care about not sending the 'end' notification if we fail | 19:08 |
| mriedem | that's why we have the wrap_exception decorator | 19:08 |
| bauzas | cfriesen_: look what I found https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/storage_users.py#L33-L44 | 19:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Do not expose exceptions from requests library https://review.openstack.org/235558 | 19:21 |
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| mriedem | mtreinish: sdague: heh, only 43 failures for cells + neutron :) http://logs.openstack.org/85/235485/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/9b042d5/console.html | 19:26 |
| mriedem | in part b/c it's trying to attach vifs, and our rc doesn't skip those b/c it was written against nova-net | 19:28 |
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| mtreinish | mriedem: hah, boto is not happy | 19:29 |
| mriedem | yeah not sure what's up there, probably security groups | 19:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Mike Fedosin proposed openstack/nova: Use helper method to remove version hardcoding https://review.openstack.org/228578 | 19:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Mike Fedosin proposed openstack/nova: Bringing Glance v2 images to a uniform format https://review.openstack.org/231696 | 19:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Attempt rollback live migrate at dest even if network dealloc fails https://review.openstack.org/227897 | 19:36 |
| mriedem | lifeless: ^ udpated | 19:36 |
| mriedem | *updated | 19:36 |
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| vilobhmm11 | bauzas : ping | 19:44 |
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| bauzas | vilobhmm11: pong | 19:46 |
| vilobhmm11 | wanted to talk on sg spec | 19:47 |
| vilobhmm11 | bauzas : you have some time? | 19:47 |
| bauzas | vilobhmm11: well, preparing my Japan trip but sure | 19:47 |
| vilobhmm11 | the proposal is to introduce an attribute is_up in nova.objects.service | 19:48 |
| vilobhmm11 | and you said it should be a property | 19:48 |
| vilobhmm11 | thats alrite | 19:48 |
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| vilobhmm11 | but while computing is_up = (nova.service.updated_at < 120) && service liveness(self.servicegroup_api.service_is_up(service)) | 19:49 |
| vilobhmm11 | since we are at the object layer the service object is not constructed yet | 19:49 |
| vilobhmm11 | to be passed as service_is_up parameter | 19:49 |
| smurke | I was working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/957009 bug but it seems its invalid could any one confirm it | 19:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 957009 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Instance task_state remains in 'deleting' state if Compute server is down" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sumant Murke (sumant-murke) | 19:49 |
| vilobhmm11 | so wouldn't it be better to add the contition directly here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/availability_zone.py#L87 | 19:50 |
| vilobhmm11 | (service['updated_at'] < 120) && service liveness(self.servicegroup_api.service_is_up(service)) | 19:50 |
| vilobhmm11 | bauzas : ^^ | 19:50 |
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| bauzas | not sure I get your point | 19:52 |
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| bauzas | about the property thing, I'm not opiniated | 19:53 |
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| vilobhmm11 | bauzas : according to you how would is_up if we make it as attribute of service object be computed ? | 19:53 |
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| bauzas | well, if it's an attribute, it needs to be updated, right? | 19:55 |
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| bauzas | hence me wondering what could be updating that field | 19:55 |
| vilobhmm11 | yes I agree but we are saying is_up = (nova.service.updated_at < 120) && service liveness(self.servicegroup_api.service_is_up(service)) | 19:55 |
| vilobhmm11 | is_up = RPC livenss && Service liveness | 19:55 |
| bauzas | I agree | 19:56 |
| vilobhmm11 | bauzas : you agree on this ? | 19:56 |
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| tdurakov_ | mriedem, ping | 19:57 |
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| mriedem | tdurakov_: hi | 19:57 |
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| tdurakov_ | mriedem, why we need to store first_failure explicitly? | 19:58 |
| tdurakov_ | what would be profit for that? | 19:58 |
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| mriedem | tdurakov_: to reraise the first exception that we hit | 19:58 |
| mriedem | unless you didn't care | 19:58 |
| mriedem | and just wanted to log it | 19:58 |
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| tdurakov_ | as we discussed with johnthetubaguy driver's exception has more priority | 19:59 |
| vilobhmm11 | bauzas : ok now my point is for "Service liveness" [servicegroup_api.service_is_up(service) ] we will need to pass service object which is not constructed yet ? and the service_is_up call at the https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/servicegroup/api.py#L85 needs service obj | 19:59 |
| mriedem | tdurakov_: i missed that discussion | 19:59 |
| mriedem | what was the reasoning? | 19:59 |
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| tdurakov_ | so the plan was to raise it, if smth goes wrong | 19:59 |
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| vilobhmm11 | bauzas : or we change the prototye of service_is_up if that is acceptable ? service_is_up(host, topic) | 20:01 |
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| mriedem | tdurakov_: idk, in my opinion it's better to raise the first exception you encounter, the call to driver.rollback is just a best attempt | 20:02 |
| bauzas | vilobhmm11: well, the service entry is created when the service is run | 20:02 |
| vilobhmm11 | bauzas : agree | 20:02 |
| bauzas | vilobhmm11: that's just the object which is not yet hydrated | 20:02 |
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| mriedem | tdurakov_: that's why i was saving off the first failure, attempting driver.rollback and if that fails, and the network dealloc didn't fail, we just log it and raise the first exception | 20:02 |
| vilobhmm11 | bauzas : don't know what you mean by hydrated? | 20:02 |
| tdurakov_ | mriedem, first one should be logged in case of failure, and driver's fail should be handled by instance event | 20:02 |
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| bauzas | vilobhmm11: so depending on your caller, you can still do something like objects.Service.get_by_sth() | 20:02 |
| mriedem | tdurakov_: is there a specific patch set where that is called out? | 20:03 |
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| bauzas | and | 20:03 |
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| bauzas | vilobhmm11: and passing self to the SG API doesn't sound silly | 20:03 |
| vilobhmm11 | bauzas : didn't get what you meant above ^^ …let start with example https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/availability_zone.py#L87 so that it would be easy to follow | 20:04 |
| bauzas | but that's implementation detail IMHO | 20:04 |
| tdurakov_ | mriedem, could you rephrase last:) | 20:04 |
| mriedem | tdurakov_: is there a patch set in here where a reviewer (john) specifically said that we should raise the failure from the driver.rollback over the network dealloc failure? | 20:04 |
| vilobhmm11 | bauzas : I feel it should be clear in the spec…so that we don't have to go back n forth | 20:05 |
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| tdurakov_ | mriedem, we've talked about that yesterday, http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-nova/%23openstack-nova.2015-10-14.log.html | 20:05 |
| bauzas | vilobhmm11: so, here service is a Service object right? | 20:05 |
| vilobhmm11 | bauzas : yes | 20:05 |
| bauzas | vilobhmm11: hydrated from https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/availability_zone.py#L66 | 20:06 |
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| tdurakov_ | mriedem, 16:48 and earlier | 20:06 |
| mriedem | tdurakov_: heh, ok, would be better to have that information in the commit message then or the review comments to explain what's going on | 20:06 |
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| bauzas | vilobhmm11: so why not calling alive = service.is_up() instead of that SG call ? | 20:06 |
| bauzas | or service.is_up if that's an attribute | 20:07 |
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| vilobhmm11 | bauzas : agree I am with you till that point | 20:07 |
| vilobhmm11 | but then how do you envision it at the object layer | 20:07 |
| mriedem | tdurakov_: that irc conversation is not clear to me really, so i'd say we just get input on this alternative patch set 10 from johnthetubaguy when he's around tomorrow | 20:07 |
| vilobhmm11 | lets say we have def is_up() at nova/objects/service | 20:07 |
| vilobhmm11 | nova computing "RPC liveness" is tsraightforward | 20:08 |
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| vilobhmm11 | straightforward | 20:08 |
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| vilobhmm11 | bauzas : at object layer how about service liveness | 20:08 |
| bauzas | well, if that's a method/property/something, then for getting the SG call, you just need to do servicegroup_api.service_is_up(self) | 20:08 |
| vilobhmm11 | sure | 20:08 |
| tdurakov_ | mriedem, ok, let's discuss it with johnthetubaguy tomorrow then, need to finalize with strategy for that exceptions:-p | 20:09 |
| lifeless | mriedem: looking (sorry for latency, its a cray cray morning here | 20:09 |
| vilobhmm11 | and thats what I wanted to confirm.. I will include all these details in the spec | 20:09 |
| vilobhmm11 | so that we have a consensus | 20:09 |
| vilobhmm11 | that way we don;t have to change the API prototype for service_is_up | 20:09 |
| vilobhmm11 | bauzas : ^^ | 20:09 |
| bauzas | vilobhmm11: tbc, I'm not sure we don't need to change the API | 20:10 |
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| bauzas | vilobhmm11: but that's food for thoughts in the spec, and some others could be more seasoned than me on that point | 20:11 |
| vilobhmm11 | bauzas : ok… | 20:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'hw_cpu_threads_policy' to ImageMetaProps https://review.openstack.org/202647 | 20:11 |
| bauzas | vilobhmm11: but honestly, you don't need that level of detail in the spec | 20:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'hw:cpu_threads_policy=separate' scheduling https://review.openstack.org/202652 | 20:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Make use of 'InstanceNUMACell.cpu_policy' field https://review.openstack.org/202653 | 20:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: trivial: Make use of 'CPUAllocation' enum values https://review.openstack.org/202654 | 20:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'hw:cpu_threads_policy=isolate' scheduling https://review.openstack.org/202655 | 20:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'cpu_policy' and 'cpu_threads_policy' fields https://review.openstack.org/202648 | 20:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'hw:cpu_threads_policy=avoid' filtering https://review.openstack.org/202649 | 20:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: trivial: Add some logs to 'numa_topology_filter' https://review.openstack.org/202650 | 20:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'hw:cpu_threads_policy=require' scheduling https://review.openstack.org/202651 | 20:11 |
| bauzas | vilobhmm11: you just need to mention what you'll do, not hoxw | 20:11 |
| bauzas | how | 20:11 |
| bauzas | no need for code snippets IMHO | 20:12 |
| vilobhmm11 | bauzas : agree but just wanted to be more specific so that we minimize going back n forth…I think apart from that I have covered all other concerns you had | 20:12 |
| vilobhmm11 | bauzas : alrite | 20:12 |
| vilobhmm11 | bauzas : thanks! | 20:12 |
| bauzas | again, that's my thoughts and I'd love to see other opinions | 20:13 |
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| bauzas | don't take my views as a consensus | 20:13 |
| bauzas | that's why we have Gerrit :) | 20:13 |
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| sfinucan | dansmith: That series has been rebased on top of your changes. Would appreciate it if you could look at the versioning code to see if I've done it correctly | 20:13 |
| dansmith | sfinucan: okay | 20:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mike Fedosin proposed openstack/nova: Use helper method to remove version hardcoding https://review.openstack.org/228578 | 20:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Mike Fedosin proposed openstack/nova: Bringing Glance v2 images to a uniform format https://review.openstack.org/231696 | 20:25 |
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| sfinucan | johnthetubaguy: Is there anything I need to do to get a blueprint reopened for M? I'm unsure of the process here | 20:31 |
| sfinucan | johnthetubaguy: The blueprint in question is virt-driver-cpu-thread-pinning. I also need to make changes from what was proposed for L | 20:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Do not expose exceptions from requests library https://review.openstack.org/235558 | 20:32 |
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| tdurakov_ | dansmith, hi, got question about this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231271/7 | 20:51 |
| tdurakov_ | where can i find some rationale for? | 20:52 |
| dansmith | tdurakov_: what rationale are you looking for? | 20:52 |
| tdurakov_ | hm, some details maybe, what is the reason for deletion, any you have:) | 20:53 |
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| dansmith | tdurakov_: in liberty we landed a change to how backports can work, where the client provides a manifest of all its versions, | 20:54 |
| dansmith | which means you don't need to have the object relationships server-side to calculate the proper version of a sub-object | 20:54 |
| dansmith | maintaining those is a pain, and we get it wrong all the time | 20:55 |
| tdurakov_ | dansmith, in liberty we landed a change to how backports can work - could you provide a link for that? maintaining those is a pain - yep:) | 20:55 |
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| dansmith | tdurakov_: well, it's kindof in o.vo and kindof in nova | 20:57 |
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| dansmith | tdurakov_: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conductor/manager.py#L123 | 20:57 |
| dansmith | tdurakov_: the versions param gets the output of this: https://github.com/openstack/oslo.versionedobjects/blob/master/oslo_versionedobjects/base.py#L1009 | 20:58 |
| dansmith | tdurakov_: looks like: {"Instance": "2.0", "BlockDeviceMapping": "1.12", ....} | 20:59 |
| tdurakov_ | dansmith, thank you, btw what do you mean by that: kindof in o.vo and kindof in nova | 21:00 |
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| dansmith | tdurakov_: well, it was multiple patches in o.vo and in nova to make it all work | 21:01 |
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| cburgess_ | @dansmith Do you have a minute for a very ugly bad question? | 21:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'hw:cpu_threads_policy=separate' scheduling https://review.openstack.org/202652 | 21:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Make use of 'InstanceNUMACell.cpu_policy' field https://review.openstack.org/202653 | 21:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: trivial: Make use of 'CPUAllocation' enum values https://review.openstack.org/202654 | 21:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'hw:cpu_threads_policy=isolate' scheduling https://review.openstack.org/202655 | 21:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'hw:cpu_threads_policy=avoid' filtering https://review.openstack.org/202649 | 21:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: trivial: Add some logs to 'numa_topology_filter' https://review.openstack.org/202650 | 21:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'hw:cpu_threads_policy=require' scheduling https://review.openstack.org/202651 | 21:09 |
| dansmith | cburgess_: ask and then I'll tell you | 21:13 |
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| cburgess_ | dansmith: I'm trying to write a simple script that uses the compute API, but I can't seem to get it to load the conductor interface. I keep getting a stack trace (https://gist.github.com/cburgess/e2b7684189501f608ce4), when I try and run it (https://gist.github.com/cburgess/a5d188354cac2f17e712). I can't for the life of me figure out what I'm doing wrong.... | 21:15 |
| dansmith | cburgess_: you mean compute rpc api? | 21:15 |
| cburgess_ | yes | 21:15 |
| cburgess_ | compute_api = compute.API() | 21:15 |
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| cburgess | I really need to figure out why it keeps changing my nick... | 21:16 |
| dansmith | cburgess: use_local isn't what you want | 21:16 |
| cburgess | Clearly.... | 21:17 |
| dansmith | if you're trying to call over rpc | 21:17 |
| cburgess | I'm fine either calling over RPC or local honestly. | 21:17 |
| cburgess | I just need to be able to read some compute instance info out of the DB in a reliable way. | 21:17 |
| dansmith | well, this is for sure not the right way to do this :) | 21:17 |
| dansmith | from nova import objects | 21:17 |
| dansmith | objects.Instance.get_by_uuid(context, uuid) | 21:17 |
| cburgess | Thats.... even... easier.... | 21:18 |
| dansmith | set up your DB url crap, but otherwise just that | 21:18 |
| dansmith | then you get a rich object you can do things with | 21:18 |
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| cburgess | OK cool. Thats way easier. I'll get it a shot. | 21:19 |
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| cburgess | I was trying to model this off how the actual API seemed to get instance objects. | 21:19 |
| dansmith | well, unless you're looking at icehouse, that isn't how much of anything does anything any more | 21:20 |
| cburgess | Yeah so... about that.... | 21:20 |
| dansmith | the compute get() call ends up asking for the object like above | 21:20 |
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| cburgess | dansmith Will the objects method still work in icehouse? | 21:21 |
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| cburgess | Or will I end up with a different version of the script for icehouse? | 21:21 |
| dansmith | cburgess: um | 21:21 |
| dansmith | cburgess: some bits of it will probably work | 21:22 |
| dansmith | cburgess: asking me to remember icehouse is kinda evil | 21:22 |
| cburgess | Reference the very ugly bad question... | 21:22 |
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| dansmith | heh | 21:22 |
| * dansmith deducts one cool point from cburgess | 21:22 | |
| cburgess | I still had cool points left? | 21:23 |
| dansmith | a few :) | 21:23 |
| mriedem | objects started in havana so icehouse might work | 21:23 |
| mriedem | but you'd have to find out on your own probably | 21:23 |
| cburgess | Yeah.. | 21:23 |
| cburgess | There is an Instance class with a get_by_uuid remotable classmethod. | 21:23 |
| cburgess | So it will probably work... | 21:24 |
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| cburgess | dansmith: Woot that worked.... | 21:27 |
| dansmith | cburgess: cool | 21:28 |
| cburgess | dansmith: https://gist.github.com/cburgess/af227a6a9ac3a7ef3893 | 21:28 |
| cburgess | Thank you for setting me on the right path. | 21:28 |
| cburgess | I shall once again owe you a beer at the summit. | 21:28 |
| dansmith | I don't seem to be collecting on these beers you speak of | 21:28 |
| dansmith | but, yeah, sounds like a deal :) | 21:28 |
| cburgess | dansmith: I brought like a case or two to the last day in VC. | 21:29 |
| dansmith | oh, right enough | 21:29 |
| dansmith | I stand corrected | 21:29 |
| cburgess | Oh wow this is so much nicer and easier... | 21:29 |
| cburgess | Now to see if the same code will work on all versions I+ | 21:30 |
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| dansmith | should pretty much work | 21:32 |
| dansmith | given that the whole point of that is a stable interface :) | 21:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brian Elliott proposed openstack/nova: Handle DB failures in servicegroup DB driver https://review.openstack.org/233914 | 21:37 |
| cburgess | dansmith Yeah.. the more I use objects... the more I fall in love... | 21:37 |
| dansmith | cburgess: the nice thing is that if you ever wanted to make that script work remote over rpc it would basically not change :) | 21:37 |
| cburgess | OK now that is hawt. | 21:38 |
| dansmith | and the only price you pay is the malware I hid inside that sends the rounding error from your bank account into mine | 21:38 |
| cburgess | Hmmm... | 21:38 |
| dansmith | you were wondering where that extra $0.97 went right? | 21:39 |
| cburgess | That has always bugged me. | 21:39 |
| cburgess | model_query raises an exception if no records are found in the DB right? | 21:40 |
| dansmith | hmm, I don't think so | 21:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Brian Elliott proposed openstack/nova: Handle DB failures in servicegroup DB driver https://review.openstack.org/233914 | 21:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Vilobh Meshram proposed openstack/nova-specs: Servicegroup foundational refactoring for Control Plane https://review.openstack.org/222423 | 21:40 |
| dansmith | but you should get an exception if you try your code with a missing uuid | 21:41 |
| dansmith | cburgess: yeah, model_query would return None and then we raise InstanceNotFound in the db method | 21:42 |
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| cburgess | k... trying to figure out how the get methods on the instance object and block device objects will respond if it doesn't find any records. I guess it will be some type of exception... | 21:43 |
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| dansmith | cburgess: should be InstanceNotFound for instance at least | 21:46 |
| cburgess | Yeah | 21:46 |
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| cburgess | its an empty list for bdm so I just have to test for that. | 21:46 |
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| dansmith | if there are no bdms or if the instance on which you're querying doesn't exist? | 21:50 |
| dansmith | if the former that's probably the right thing | 21:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/nova-specs: Fetch SSH Hostkey https://review.openstack.org/167202 | 22:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/235443 | 23:32 |
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