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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Drop outdated sqlite downgrade script https://review.openstack.org/212891 | 01:29 |
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| thetrav | did nova ever have drivers to go directly to esxi hypervisors? or was it always done via vcenter? | 02:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Add soft deleting instance actions and events https://review.openstack.org/231887 | 05:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Remove unused provider firewall rules functionality in nova https://review.openstack.org/184027 | 06:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Remove provider_fw_rules tables and associated db api methods https://review.openstack.org/216242 | 06:59 |
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| bauzas | good morning Nova | 07:52 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: morning, was looking at the stable branch to see where we are | 08:28 |
| bauzas | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/liberty,n,z | 08:28 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: IIUC, you probably wait for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232033/ to be merged before asking for RC2 ? | 08:28 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: since https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232363/ is +W | 08:29 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: meh, nevermind, the master branch of dansmith's change isn't merged yet | 08:29 |
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| lxsli | Morning | 08:45 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: yeah, that patch is why we didn't release yesterday, but the gate is a bit... angry | 08:47 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: yup the firewall thing is just hassling | 08:47 |
| bauzas | s/hassling/harassing | 08:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah right, that would do it | 08:49 |
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| sudipto | johnthetubaguy, i had a specless BP in liberty, that couldn't get completed. Is there a way to get that approved? | 09:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sudipto: yes, you add it onto the etherpad, under specless BP: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-spec-review-tracking more details in the ML message | 09:11 |
| sudipto | johnthetubaguy, thank you. | 09:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | sudipto: no worries, I am usually getting through a few of those a day | 09:13 |
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| sudipto | johnthetubaguy, thanks a lot! | 09:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | gongysh proposed openstack/nova: load consoleauth_topic option before using it https://review.openstack.org/232367 | 09:16 |
| sudipto | johnthetubaguy, updated :) | 09:17 |
| sudipto | johnthetubaguy, another query, i am a bit late on submitting a couple of topics on which i wanted to have a summit discussion, is there anyway i could do that now? | 09:18 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sudipto: so I have closed the form now, what are the ones you are wanting to add? | 09:19 |
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| sudipto | johnthetubaguy, yeah i just found that out now. I wanted to have some discussion around Memory/CPU hot plugs. | 09:21 |
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| sudipto | johnthetubaguy, also a very specific topic on handling NUMA aware VM deployments on ppc architecture running KVM... | 09:21 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sudipto: there is a session on live-resize, which is basically the same as memory/cpu hot plug | 09:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | sudipto: well a proposed session I guess | 09:27 |
| sudipto | johnthetubaguy, oh ok let me look around for that one. | 09:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | sudipto: what is required for ppc NUMA, do we have a spec describing all that up for review? | 09:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | sudipto: this is the live resize spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141219/ | 09:28 |
| sudipto | johnthetubaguy, i can actually write a spec. I had sent a note out briefly describing the problem on the ML. But I should able to describe it better. | 09:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | sudipto: please write a spec, thats basically required for the summit session to be possible | 09:30 |
| sudipto | johnthetubaguy, ok sure. i will get done. Thanks!! | 09:30 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sudipto: on the hot plug, my thinking is really the operation is, live-migrate to somewhere with space, then hotplug the extra bits for the newly selected flavor, is that close to what you are thinking/wanting? | 09:31 |
| sudipto | johnthetubaguy, i am actually reading the spec. But my idea is a little different. It's not really attached to a live-migrate scenario as such. Let me read the spec, and i shall be able to pin point, if this is different than what i am thinking. | 09:33 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sudipto: so the need for the live-migrate, is you need to (optionally) find somewhere with the appropriate resources free (consider a fill first scheduling strategy, then hotplug) | 09:34 |
| markus_z | Anyone familiar with "consoleauth"? bug 1503975 reports that this service will fail to start. | 09:35 |
| openstack | bug 1503975 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "service consoleauth does not start: "no such option: consoleauth_topic"" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1503975 - Assigned to yong sheng gong (gongysh) | 09:35 |
| sudipto | johnthetubaguy, yeah that would be the natural case. | 09:36 |
| sudipto | johnthetubaguy, i thought you meant, it gets triggered during live migrate. Sorry. | 09:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: sounds a bit like they have a bad config file? do we have consoleauth_topic in the code anywhere? | 09:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | sudipto: ah, sorry, thats mostly my bad description | 09:37 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sudipto: if you have different use cases, it would be great to add those as comments on that spec | 09:37 |
| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: yes, we do, it's in the __init__.py of consoleauth | 09:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: hmm, well thats funky | 09:37 |
| markus_z | That's what confused me | 09:37 |
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| sudipto | johnthetubaguy, sure. | 09:37 |
| markus_z | and I don't find a change related to that. | 09:37 |
| markus_z | gongysh_: You are working on that bug, did you find the root cause? | 09:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: oh wait, maybe its missing an import or something? | 09:38 |
| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: The patch tries to resolve it by adding the import, yes. But I don't understand why this is necessary all of a sudden. | 09:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: yeah, seems odd, makes we wonder about oslo_config versions I guess | 09:39 |
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| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: I guess why does it fail for them, and not the gate, is the question | 09:40 |
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| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: right, I would expect more trouble | 09:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/c94b71c2d42a651f3b24d5f0ac1819bfa2a79a12 | 09:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: seems like its all in nova.service, so its fine | 09:42 |
| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: I'm sorry, I don't understand it. That patch is 18 months old. | 09:44 |
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| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: turns out its totally not relevant, sorry, I am blind | 09:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: this is interesting though: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/cmd/console.py | 09:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: its needed in another similar cmd | 09:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: I wonder if we are missing coverage here :( | 09:45 |
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| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: It's a valid assumption, yeah. I'll try to reproduce it. Would you see it as a critical? | 09:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: its got to be at least high, if we can reproduce it, its tempting to block RC2 on that | 09:48 |
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| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: I'll have to leave right now, will be back in around 45min and proceed to work on that. | 09:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: no problems, thanks for digging | 09:52 |
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| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: so... it seems only congress is testing n-cauth in the gate :S | 09:52 |
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| rajesht | johnthetubaguy: could you please tell me whether it is required to backport this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135202/ to stable/kilo | 10:05 |
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| johnthetubaguy | rajesht: I don't think its required, given its an RPC version change, I don't think we are able to back port that fix | 10:06 |
| rajesht | johnthetubaguy: thanks, and I have tried to implement your suggestion regarding force-delete patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163798/ | 10:07 |
| rajesht | johnthetubaguy: I tried to create separate global dict to map task_states with vm_states but in that case, the functions in nova/api/openstack/common.py module | 10:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | rajesht: afraid I am unlikely to get to that right now, running around trying to get things sorted for the summit, and specs reviewed, and sorting out liberty release | 10:08 |
| rajesht | johnthetubaguy: no problem, have a look when you are free. thanks :) | 10:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Fix InstanceV1 backports to use context https://review.openstack.org/231649 | 10:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add more documentation for RetryFilter https://review.openstack.org/232241 | 10:24 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: markus_z: just catched the convo - was troubleshooting some Fedora/Atom issues | 10:25 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: markus_z: before wondering if RC2, I'd like to know the oslo.config version from the reporter | 10:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: yeah +1, can you reproduce the issue? | 10:26 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I can't now, because my devstack is stuck | 10:27 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: but I'm looking at oslo.config to see the problem | 10:27 |
| bauzas | IIRC, we still have some tests for some cmd modules | 10:27 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: that said, the bug seems valid given the proposal https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232367/2/nova/cmd/consoleauth.py,cm | 10:28 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I'm just wondering if it's a regression | 10:28 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: because calling the opt just without importing is bad | 10:29 |
| bauzas | but the bug owner should just move the import_opt up to the module | 10:29 |
| bauzas | not within the method | 10:29 |
| bauzas | so, my takes are | 10:29 |
| bauzas | is this due to a oslo.config change? | 10:30 |
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| bauzas | is this regressed by a liberty change? | 10:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I had a quick look, and I just couldn't track it down | 10:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I suspect it may have been implicitly imported in the past, but no longer is, or something like that. | 10:31 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: that's MHO | 10:31 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: since it's a global CONF object, it means that the __init__.py was called elsewhere | 10:32 |
| bauzas | and we possibly removed it in liberty | 10:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I was trying to track why its different to this: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/cmd/console.py#L30 or what happened | 10:32 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I suspect it was never imported first, but since the CONF object was already having this attribute, it was good | 10:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: +1 | 10:34 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: that's one option | 10:34 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: so, atm, I'm tracking down any change removing an import on nova.consoleauth | 10:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: the other question, is why is this not failing in the gate? have you reproduced this? | 10:36 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I suspect it's not checked | 10:37 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: since it's for a CLI | 10:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: it is started up, but I don't see any logs stored | 10:37 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: is it ? | 10:37 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: okay | 10:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I checked, although its possible it fails in a way we don't spot | 10:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | like I can't find the logs for that screen | 10:38 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: that's my point | 10:39 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I suspect we don't run the process in tempest | 10:39 |
| bauzas | but I'm not a console guy | 10:39 |
| bauzas | oh right, we're not using screen in the gate | 10:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: look at nova-consoleauth in http://logs.openstack.org/85/207385/15/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/7c2aa0c/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz | 10:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: thats all I found | 10:41 |
| bauzas | http://logs.openstack.org/67/232367/2/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/f74ea4c/logs/ps.txt.gz | 10:42 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: ^ can't see consoleauth in the running processes | 10:43 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: so that's probably being started but failing | 10:43 |
| bauzas | silently I mean | 10:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: yeah, that would fit | 10:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I couldn't find the logs to prove it either way | 10:43 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: that's normal | 10:44 |
| bauzas | if http://logs.openstack.org/85/207385/15/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/7c2aa0c/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-10-06_02_09_26_620 is failing where we think | 10:44 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: it's failing *before* starting the Service | 10:44 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: so no logs | 10:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh... | 10:44 |
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| bauzas | yeah it sucks | 10:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | so maybe all those other processes are broken too? | 10:45 |
| bauzas | we thought we were running some unittests | 10:45 |
| bauzas | for checking that most of our entrypoints are starting | 10:45 |
| bauzas | nope, not covered :( | 10:46 |
| bauzas | so, that's why we don't notice it in the gate | 10:46 |
| bauzas | now, the 1M question, was that a regression and since when ? | 10:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | need some functional tests for this | 10:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, agreed | 10:47 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: at least something just doing like we already have for some other cmds | 10:47 |
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| bauzas | not zactly a full fonctional test, but just ensuring that the mocked service is callede | 10:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: load consoleauth_topic option before using it https://review.openstack.org/232367 | 10:50 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: ^ | 10:50 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I just modified the release | 10:51 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: given its prio | 10:51 |
| bauzas | and added a bit more in the message | 10:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: load consoleauth_topic option before using it https://review.openstack.org/232367 | 10:53 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: okay, I'm trying to dig how it could have been working before | 10:57 |
| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Use version convert methods from oslo_utils.versionutils https://review.openstack.org/203322 | 10:57 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: tbc, calling CONF.attr means that some module could have been importing that opt first | 10:57 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: but given it's a separate process that we call, there are actually a very few places where it could have been importing nova.consoleauth | 10:58 |
| markus_z | bauzas: great work! I have another meeting now :( I'll catch up later | 10:59 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/cmd/consoleauth.py#L20-L37 are the only calls where we could have been calling nova.consoleauth previously | 10:59 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: +1 | 11:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I can't see how it ever worked | 11:01 |
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| bauzas | jichen: excellent comment, adding a unittest | 11:02 |
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| jichen | bauzas: not sure whether it's doable. didn't see any thing related before | 11:03 |
| bauzas | jichen: I'll just make sure a mocked Service will be called | 11:03 |
| bauzas | jichen: that's enough for our problem | 11:03 |
| jichen | bauzas: ok, thanks~ | 11:04 |
| alex_xu | bauzas: johnthetubaguy I guess this is a little hint https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/xyz | 11:09 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: excellent | 11:10 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: you gave us the stack | 11:10 |
| alex_xu | I force the old code raise exception, then we can know where we import it | 11:10 |
| alex_xu | bauzas: the conductor.manager didn't import compute.api anymore in the lastest code, do you have any idea when we remove it? | 11:11 |
| bauzas | when you say 'old code', you mean kilo ? | 11:12 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: that's possible to get some git deletions | 11:12 |
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| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: oh, that was super recent | 11:13 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: IIRC, it's a trick with git log | 11:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | I approved it I think | 11:13 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: since git log shows you additions and deletions | 11:13 |
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| bauzas | alex_xu: then you just have to git log the file you want with matching a specifying query | 11:14 |
| bauzas | sec, finding the option | 11:14 |
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| alex_xu | bauzas: ah, I guess this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168858/ :) | 11:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | thats the one, so its not an RC2 issue | 11:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | whoop | 11:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrea Rosa proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add soft policies for server-group feature https://review.openstack.org/212504 | 11:15 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: yup, that's my finding | 11:15 |
| alex_xu | bauzas: cool | 11:16 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: johnthetubaguy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168858/8/setup.cfg is merged in mitaka | 11:16 |
| bauzas | so that's not a liberty backport, cool | 11:16 |
| alex_xu | bauzas: yea, cool | 11:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Flavio Percoco proposed openstack/nova-specs: (follow up) Nova Image v1 -> v2 https://review.openstack.org/231357 | 11:17 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: do you know if we already have an handy Service fixture in the unittest tree ? | 11:19 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: nvm | 11:19 |
| sudipto | johnthetubaguy, went through the 'live resize' spec. Apart from the comments that i would like to put to the spec link - do you consider the spec to implement the functionality into each hypervisor driver? (I assume the way each hypervisor handles live-resize might be a bit different from the other) | 11:24 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sudipto: right, you would probably want a spec for your preferred hypervisor, the key bit is sharing the same idea of the operation | 11:26 |
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| sudipto | johnthetubaguy, hmm got it. | 11:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexey I. Froloff proposed openstack/nova: Fix more inconsistency between Nova-Net and Neutron https://review.openstack.org/226274 | 11:55 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I left a comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232367/4 explaning my thoughts about testing the regression (ie. a console script wedged) | 12:01 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: tl;dr it's about wondering if devstack shouldn't rather fail | 12:01 |
| bauzas | sdague: I'd appreciate your thoughts on that | 12:01 |
| bauzas | we could also run a functional test, but since it's a CLI command, I'm not sure what to test unless the process | 12:02 |
| bauzas | s/unless/but | 12:02 |
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| sdague | bauzas: this is one of the screen daemons? | 12:05 |
| bauzas | sdague: yup | 12:05 |
| bauzas | sdague: the problem is described in bug 1503975 | 12:06 |
| openstack | bug 1503975 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "service consoleauth does not start: "no such option: consoleauth_topic"" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1503975 - Assigned to Sylvain Bauza (sylvain-bauza) | 12:06 |
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| bauzas | sdague: long story short, since there are some import chains, someone removed an import which was importing the needed opt | 12:06 |
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| bauzas | sdague: but the main problem is that the gate missed that | 12:07 |
| sdague | yeh, so I'm all in favor of devstack having code to assert that everything it started should be running for real | 12:07 |
| bauzas | sdague: because it was failing before the service was created actually | 12:07 |
| sdague | I am a little surprised nothing showed up in the error log | 12:07 |
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| bauzas | sdague: okay, will see how to land a devstack change | 12:07 |
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| bauzas | sdague: AFAIU, devstack started the process | 12:08 |
| bauzas | http://logs.openstack.org/85/207385/15/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/7c2aa0c/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-10-06_02_09_26_620 | 12:08 |
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| bauzas | sdague: but since the exception was failing here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/cmd/consoleauth.py#L40 | 12:08 |
| bauzas | sdague: the service wasn't created | 12:08 |
| bauzas | sdague: and if you see http://logs.openstack.org/85/207385/15/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/7c2aa0c/logs/ps.txt.gz there is no nova-consoleauth process | 12:09 |
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| bauzas | sdague: so we should probably verify in run_command or whatever that the process actually started correctly - but that's a little racy | 12:10 |
| bauzas | sdague: given it was called but failing the second after | 12:10 |
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| sdague | right | 12:11 |
| sdague | so, honestly, grenade has some code for this on the upgrade side | 12:11 |
| bauzas | oh good to know | 12:11 |
| sdague | https://github.com/openstack-dev/grenade/blob/a84011480dded5692c8bfa85f455ea676a221fb4/projects/60_nova/upgrade.sh#L72-L81 | 12:12 |
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| sdague | so I think an approach like that might be best | 12:12 |
| sdague | at the end of start_nova we check that services exist, and there are log files | 12:12 |
| bauzas | I see | 12:12 |
| sdague | or, honestly, we could have a service verify phase at the end of all the starts | 12:13 |
| sdague | which wouldn't be a bad call | 12:13 |
| bauzas | I think of that too | 12:13 |
| sdague | honestly, probably more robust | 12:13 |
| bauzas | because of the possible corner cases where a service could fail after the check | 12:13 |
| sdague | and we could make grenade use it | 12:13 |
| sdague | yeh | 12:13 |
| bauzas | I'm not really skilled on that (I mean on devstack, not bash :D ) | 12:14 |
| bauzas | I should fill a wishlist bug to devstack,nope ? | 12:14 |
| bauzas | or a bp ? | 12:14 |
| sdague | we don't really do bp | 12:14 |
| bauzas | see, I even don't know the devstack process :D | 12:14 |
| sdague | it's a pretty loose process :) | 12:15 |
| bauzas | although I should have a commit like 2.5yr ago IIRC :) | 12:15 |
| bauzas | ok, I'll file a bug | 12:15 |
| sdague | so, is it a thing you'd like to take a stab at? | 12:15 |
| bauzas | idk | 12:15 |
| sdague | because I can point you in the right direction if you do | 12:15 |
| bauzas | I need to read a few bits | 12:15 |
| sdague | sure | 12:16 |
| bauzas | it'd be awesome | 12:16 |
| sdague | conceptually I think we should have another class of functions that are verfiy_$servicename | 12:16 |
| sdague | and just a final phase of devstack that does that | 12:16 |
| sdague | it would extend the plugin interface as well | 12:16 |
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| bauzas | sdague: agreed | 12:17 |
| bauzas | sdague: I can surely file the bug and do the first investigations | 12:17 |
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| sdague | cool, sounds good | 12:18 |
| bauzas | so anyone could contribute if he feels better than me | 12:18 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: thanks for digging | 12:28 |
| markus_z | bauzas: When I execute devstack without your patch I get the error message "echo 'Error: Service n-cauth is not running'". Isn't that the error we are looking for? | 12:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: good point, maybe its just not failing the gate? | 12:28 |
| sdague | markus_z: can you link to where it's happening, we might be missing a fail condition | 12:29 |
| bauzas | markus_z: just fueling my stomach, but do you have some evidence to show ? | 12:29 |
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| sdague | I'll definitely admit the service checking in devstack is pretty mediocre, we kind of punt to tempest for a bunch of that. However, we should probably change that fact. | 12:30 |
| markus_z | The tail from my stack.sh.log: http://paste.openstack.org/show/475715/ | 12:30 |
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| markus_z | Line 102 shows the error. | 12:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Catch InvalidBDMEphemeralSize during resize https://review.openstack.org/232505 | 12:31 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Handle Invalid exception during boot process https://review.openstack.org/232506 | 12:31 |
| bauzas | really weird | 12:31 |
| bauzas | seems there is already some error handling | 12:31 |
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| sdague | oh, yeh, so that's because you are under screen | 12:32 |
| sdague | and in the gate we aren't | 12:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah... | 12:32 |
| sdague | because screen has some weird races in it | 12:32 |
| markus_z | Ah, I didn't know that | 12:32 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so I guess we lost that check, when we stopped using screen, although it was a very racey check I guess | 12:33 |
| bauzas | yup, I know the gate isn't running screen | 12:33 |
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| bauzas | but then, I wonder if that check could be run too without screen ? | 12:33 |
| bauzas | disclaimer: it's a devstack convo | 12:34 |
| bauzas | so probably not the best place | 12:34 |
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| bauzas | here I mean | 12:34 |
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| sdague | yeh, because we have to background things it's a little weird | 12:34 |
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| sdague | let me ponder | 12:35 |
| markus_z | Yeah, I started the convo here because I thought we have a Liberty blocker but that's fortunately not the case. | 12:35 |
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| bauzas | sdague: https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1504118 | 12:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1504118 in devstack "Devstack could verify if a service started correctly without screen" [Undecided,New] | 12:40 |
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| bauzas | anyway, since the bug is not in Liberty, there is no huuuge need to merge the bugfix quickly | 12:41 |
| markus_z | bauzas: +1 | 12:41 |
| bauzas | we can sit down and discuss about how to do that correctly | 12:41 |
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| sdague | bauzas: ok, I have a narrow fix | 12:45 |
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| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/232511 | 12:45 |
| sdague | I'm assuming that should fail in upstream atm? | 12:45 |
| sdague | or was your patch to fix it already landed | 12:46 |
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| johnthetubaguy | danpb: do you know about the current state of that Neutron VIF lib discussion? | 12:48 |
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| danpb | johnthetubaguy: don't think there's been much discussion recently | 12:49 |
| bauzas | sdague: no, it wasn't | 12:49 |
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| bauzas | sdague: I could even mark it Depends-On your change | 12:50 |
| danpb | johnthetubaguy: might be something to hash out at the summit | 12:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: I am wondering if we need a summit sessions to move that forward? | 12:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: yeah | 12:50 |
| bauzas | there is a ML thread for neutron folks | 12:50 |
| sdague | bauzas: sure, that would verify that it's currently catching a broken thing | 12:50 |
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| sdague | and that your fix fixes it | 12:50 |
| bauzas | I was hoping to see some points about the nova/neutron interaction | 12:50 |
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| sdague | we'll have to reverse the patch order to land it, but that will at least give us confidence | 12:50 |
| bauzas | but not a lot of people told about that | 12:50 |
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| bauzas | sdague: um, good point | 12:51 |
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| bauzas | sdague: I'm not precisely opiniated | 12:51 |
| sdague | bauzas: I like building confidence in this one | 12:51 |
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| sdague | so that we know it addresses the issue at hand | 12:51 |
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| claudiub | johnthetubaguy: hi, can you throw in your opinion on this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232108/ | 12:55 |
| bauzas | sdague: ack, what do you prefer ? leave the 2 changes not related or having one being depending on another one ? | 12:55 |
| bauzas | sorry if I missed your point | 12:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexander Schmidt proposed openstack/nova-specs: Libvirt: AIO mode for disk devices https://review.openstack.org/232514 | 12:56 |
| sdague | bauzas: let's leave them independent for now | 12:57 |
| bauzas | fine | 12:57 |
| sdague | the devstack change will go up, and it should fail | 12:57 |
| sdague | assuming it does, I'll depends-on your patch, and it should pass | 12:57 |
| bauzas | I see | 12:57 |
| sdague | if it does, we should land both in that order | 12:57 |
| bauzas | wfm | 12:58 |
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| johnthetubaguy | claudiub: any chance you can update the test list in that patch, to prove it helped, or do they need more work before they pass? | 12:59 |
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| claudiub | johnthetubaguy: I don't think I can do much on this. Sure, I think I can enable some unit tests, but most of them still won't work, as there plenty of py3 specific problems. | 13:01 |
| claudiub | johnthetubaguy: I'll see what I can do | 13:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | claudiub: agreed, just wondering if any could be enabled really | 13:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | claudiub: it seems to follow the existing pattern, honestly, we have actually been replacing most of this with private functions with the @patch decorator in code reviews, thats an alternative | 13:02 |
| claudiub | johnthetubaguy: but still, what do you think about the replacement? should be use test.nested instead? or with, but we'll have to use \ at the end of each line? | 13:02 |
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| claudiub | johnthetubaguy: true | 13:02 |
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| claudiub | johnthetubaguy: that would be a good alternative. | 13:03 |
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| johnthetubaguy | claudiub: its a bigger patch, but at least its a bigger patch that will not make our eyes bleed | 13:03 |
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| alex_xu | mriedem: claudiub appreciate if you can take a look at this backport when you have time https://review.openstack.org/227176 thanks in advance! | 13:37 |
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| mriedem | alex_xu: after this call | 13:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova-specs: Centralize Config Options https://review.openstack.org/227948 | 13:41 |
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| alex_xu | mriedem: thanks | 13:44 |
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| mriedem | danpb: there isn't a legend for the status values in the support matrix anywhere right? http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/support-matrix.html | 13:47 |
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| mriedem | danpb: i know i've been confused by condition/choice/optional | 13:47 |
| mriedem | choice means you have to have one impl of a given group of things, like console? | 13:48 |
| mriedem | optional means it's, well, optional | 13:48 |
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| danpb | mriedem: its explained inthe code generator a bit better | 13:51 |
| mriedem | ok, we should get that into the actual doc output | 13:51 |
| danpb | mriedem: if you click on an item in the index it shows you a bit more though eg http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/support-matrix.html#storage_block_backend_iscsi | 13:51 |
| danpb | condition(storage.block==complete) | 13:51 |
| danpb | IOW, that's say that support for feature is conditional on the driver claiming support for blck storage | 13:52 |
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| danpb | and yes choice means the driver must provide at least one of the features in a group | 13:52 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: johnthetubaguy: This is in master now: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232033/ | 14:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: thanks for pushing on the release notes by the way! | 14:00 |
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| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: sweet, thank you, I have pinged ttx to +W on stable | 14:01 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: looks fine, i don't have +2 there anyway | 14:01 |
| dansmith | oh | 14:02 |
| dansmith | Ah, neither I | 14:02 |
| mriedem | only release peeps have +2 on stable/liberty until we release liberty | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think its the release team only at the moment | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 14:02 |
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| dansmith | okay | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | dims: if you get this first: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232033/ :) | 14:02 |
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| dims | johnthetubaguy: looking | 14:03 |
| dims | johnthetubaguy: apologies, i can only +1 that one (not enough karma) | 14:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | dims: ah, no worries | 14:04 |
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| mriedem | alex_xu: what was the docimpact on this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224438/ | 14:05 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: dansmith: danpb: any chance we are all free this afternoon to go through the summit submissions | 14:08 |
| bauzas | oh, there is a new merge-check pipeline ? http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ | 14:08 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: the google form? | 14:08 |
| mriedem | there is the nova meeting later today too | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, I have an etherpad with some notes and ideas on | 14:08 |
| mriedem | i'm free | 14:09 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: sure | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | so this is the etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-summit-suggestions | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | at the very bottom, attempting to create a schedule, ish | 14:09 |
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| bauzas | also "Queue lengths: 67 events, 31 results" ouch | 14:09 |
| sdague | bauzas: my thing didn't work as expected, trying a new thing | 14:10 |
| danpb | johnthetubaguy: as long as we're finished by 5pm BST i'd be ok | 14:10 |
| bauzas | sdague: okay | 14:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | danpb: sure thing | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: mriedem: danpb: lets do it now if we are all available, I guess? | 14:12 |
| mriedem | let me wrap up what i'm reviewing | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | sure thing | 14:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Converting nova.virt.hyperv to py3 https://review.openstack.org/232554 | 14:16 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: +2 on that backport, but i'm not sure what the docimpact is on that change | 14:16 |
| mriedem | when someone puts a docimpact tag in a commit message, they should also provide a description of the doc impact with the tag, so it's not a mystery to the docs team when they get the bug that is auto-generated | 14:17 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: i'm your huck;leberry now | 14:17 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: so I have tried a rough stab at a schedule, just to see what it looks like | 14:19 |
| dansmith | oh, we're doing it now | 14:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom proposed openstack/nova: added support for 'insecure' option to ironic section in nova.conf Closes-Bug: #1504033 https://review.openstack.org/232560 | 14:20 |
| openstack | bug 1504033 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Insecure option missing in nova.conf section ironic" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1504033 - Assigned to Tom Patzig (tom-patzig) | 14:20 |
| dansmith | ? | 14:20 |
| mriedem | dansmith: if you can | 14:20 |
| dansmith | mriedem: sounds like only if danpb danpb and you can | 14:20 |
| mriedem | i'm all in | 14:21 |
| dansmith | now is less convenient for me, but I guess it's ok | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: yeah, I can't use a tab key, would in 30 mins work better? | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, lets try kick off I guess, if possible | 14:21 |
| danpb | i'm free now | 14:21 |
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| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: not really, in 90 minutes would, but.. | 14:21 |
| dansmith | yeah, whatever, just do it now | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | so I am thinking lets chat now, go anyway and thinking about it more, then come back tomorrow/monday to follow up on things | 14:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | so I have been through the suggestions, and roughed up a schedule | 14:22 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so mriedem, good question, we have two gaps | 14:23 |
| danpb | wheres the link for etherpad | 14:23 |
| mriedem | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-summit-suggestions | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | so I think it could be a joing nova+cinder (using one of theres) | 14:23 |
| danpb | thanks | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, thats the one, sorry | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | so we have two gaps in our schedule | 14:24 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I have a presentation to do at those point, although I don't think thats why we have gaps, just decides where the gaps were | 14:24 |
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| johnthetubaguy | but we an use that for an ironic+nova and cinder+nova session in their tracks, if we fancy | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | based on quick chat with those folks | 14:24 |
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| mriedem | i just want to make sure that there isn't a big nova session at the same time as the cinder cross project sessions | 14:25 |
| mriedem | *session | 14:25 |
| mriedem | b/c we'll want nova people in the cinder tihng | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, we can make it look like its in both tracks in the conference schedule | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | like we did for the neutron one last time I guess | 14:26 |
| andreykurilin | hi all! Does anybody know what is happened with nova jobs results(html reports become unreadable, example : http://logs.openstack.org/73/231473/2/check/gate-nova-python34/77b4b4b/testr_results.html.gz ) ? | 14:26 |
| mriedem | ok, i'm not sure how all of that works out, but the nova + neutron thing worked well in YVR i thought | 14:26 |
| mriedem | as far as getting the right people in the same room anyway | 14:27 |
| dansmith | I don't feel like much came out of it though | 14:27 |
| mriedem | andreykurilin: probably a better question for the -infra or -qa channels | 14:27 |
| mriedem | dansmith: well, there were aspirations | 14:27 |
| dansmith | and it was standing room, which made it less design session-y | 14:27 |
| mriedem | dansmith: i remember there were items, mostly on the neutron team, that weren't executed | 14:27 |
| mriedem | but i don't remember what all of them were either, one was probably linuxbridge in the gate, which sc68cal worked on in liberty | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | so I was thinking we agree the neutron vif lib plan, really, then follow up on the previous agreements I supose | 14:28 |
| mriedem | yeah the vif lib thing will be a whole session | 14:28 |
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| danpb | yep, that's a godo session in its own right | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK, so I think we just make that most of the session, I am really just picking a time neutron doesn't have a session I guess | 14:28 |
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| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: what is the nfv session? | 14:29 |
| mriedem | that's what i was wondering | 14:29 |
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| mriedem | i'm guessing johnthetubaguy is getting pressure from the NFV people to have a session :) | 14:29 |
| dansmith | well, I don't see it in the submission list | 14:29 |
| danpb | having a general neutron/nova session will jsut encourage everything to just turn up with no real focus | 14:29 |
| mriedem | they have their own lobby | 14:29 |
| dansmith | (why is the submission list all struck out?) | 14:29 |
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| johnthetubaguy | honestly, I am not sure, I just feel like asking for lots of testing, but it was in the submission | 14:29 |
| danpb | if we call it a VIF-lib session, we can at least ensure we targe the right subset of people | 14:29 |
| danpb | s/targe/target/ | 14:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: they were just random notes, its all in the spreadsheet | 14:30 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: asking nfv people for testing isn't worth a session | 14:30 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: you mean the future of pci and sroiv, I see | 14:30 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: b/c it won't happen | 14:30 |
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| danpb | this is a NFV related spec for sriov support improvement https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212472/ | 14:30 |
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| mriedem | leave that for friday imo | 14:30 |
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| danpb | the real-time guest one is also NFV, but that specs already approved | 14:30 |
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| danpb | there is also the guest device role tagging spec that's relevant for NFV https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195662/ | 14:31 |
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| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: okay, so the future of pci/sriov thing is worth a session I think | 14:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, lets leave that off, so I think some of this will be, go away and review the attached specs, and see if there is something that warrants a full session or not | 14:31 |
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| mriedem | so can we just call it the danpb + libvirt + nfv closet and send danpb there to hash it out? :) | 14:31 |
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| * dansmith wishes we could just jump in a hangout to do this | 14:32 | |
| mriedem | so let's do that | 14:32 |
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| mriedem | my makeup is on | 14:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: thats a good idea, hangout? | 14:33 |
| dansmith | please | 14:33 |
| danpb | fine with me | 14:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | is starting one | 14:33 |
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| johnthetubaguy | https://hangouts.google.com/call/gsfswp2bvzmvu7bj2b3l6n6iz4a | 14:34 |
| mriedem | i was going to point out there will be an oslo cross project session that will require cinder and nova people for the rootwrap thing, but that just might be something sdague can handle on his own as a rep for nova | 14:34 |
| ndipanov | there's one more nfv one | 14:34 |
| ndipanov | https://review.openstack.org/212472 | 14:34 |
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| sdague | mriedem: where is that session? | 14:35 |
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| mriedem | sdague: it's not yet | 14:35 |
| mriedem | unless oslo has it | 14:35 |
| mriedem | dims: ^ | 14:35 |
| mriedem | dims: is there an oslo summit session planned for the rootwrap thing? plugging | 14:35 |
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| sdague | yeh, my only concern is conflicts, but sure, I can try to be in the middle of that | 14:36 |
| sdague | mriedem: dammit man, you should be there to cover it :) | 14:36 |
| mriedem | oops | 14:36 |
| sdague | out of curiosity, which core team members do we know aren't coming? mriedem / alaski_out / others? | 14:37 |
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| sdague | because knowing that might be useful in knowing what sessions just aren't all that useful to have there | 14:37 |
| sdague | and instead sort them some other way | 14:37 |
| mriedem | i haven't heard of anyone else not coming | 14:37 |
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| * jaypipes puts on calming "work on specs" music. | 14:38 | |
| mriedem | oh jaypipes, hi | 14:39 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: maybe you want to jump on that hangout ^ | 14:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Replaces contextlib.nested with test.nested https://review.openstack.org/232108 | 14:40 |
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| dims | mriedem: privsep is on the short list - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-oslo-summit-planning | 14:52 |
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| mriedem | dims: ok, i added sdague to that as interested party | 14:53 |
| mriedem | and hemnafk | 14:53 |
| mriedem | for os-brick | 14:53 |
| dims | thanks mriedem | 14:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Nuke EC2 API https://review.openstack.org/232325 | 14:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Fixes .keys()[0] references for Python 3 in unit tests https://review.openstack.org/232585 | 15:07 |
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| annegentle | johnthetubaguy: I'm going to merge the Compute API reference collapse, and then follow on with a .htaccess redirect. Sound good? | 15:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add notification for service status change https://review.openstack.org/182350 | 15:13 |
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| gibi | mikal: Hi! I had to respin https://review.openstack.org/182350 due to the updated template, can I get your +2 back? Thanks! | 15:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova-specs: Remove shared storage flag in evacuate API https://review.openstack.org/183033 | 15:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Support the server side remote-console API changes https://review.openstack.org/230149 | 15:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anna Babich proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Functional tests for os-extended-server-attributes (legacy and 2.3 microversion) have been added. https://review.openstack.org/232605 | 15:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add soft policies for server-group feature https://review.openstack.org/212504 | 15:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova-specs: Remove service management from nova-manage https://review.openstack.org/231918 | 15:36 |
| bauzas | meh, TurboHipster seems just wedged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232241/ | 15:37 |
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| sc68cal | mriedem sdague johnthetubaguy - here was the list of agreed things that were going to be worked on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-nova-network | 15:38 |
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| sdague | bauzas: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232511/ - shoud be good | 15:48 |
| bauzas | sdague: okay, waiting the CI output :) | 15:48 |
| bauzas | sdague: btw. thanks for working on that bug ! | 15:49 |
| bauzas | my roots are very basic re: devstack | 15:49 |
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| hemna | mriedem, do we have a cross project session about the rootwrap fun yet? | 15:49 |
| sahid | danpb, ndipanov we should to remove this http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/virt/hardware.py#n319 limits should only be set by operator and so from flavor extraspec, no? | 15:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Fixes Python 3 compatibility for filter results https://review.openstack.org/232620 | 15:50 |
| mriedem | hemna: tracked under privsep here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-oslo-summit-planning | 15:50 |
| danpb | sahid: no, we need that in the image too | 15:50 |
| mriedem | hemna: i took the liberty of added your name as a stakeholder | 15:50 |
| danpb | sahid: the flavour will override that if the flavour has limits set | 15:50 |
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| hemna | mriedem, ok coolio thanks. | 15:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/nova: Rearranges to create new Compute API Guide https://review.openstack.org/230186 | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Replaces contextlib.nested with test.nested https://review.openstack.org/232108 | 15:51 |
| mriedem | sc68cal: ok, looks like the top priority thing, linuxbridge test in the gate, was completed | 15:51 |
| mriedem | so that's good at least | 15:52 |
| sc68cal | mriedem: #2 is in progress, I got the copy and will be pushing a patch to the networking guide | 15:52 |
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| sahid | danpb: hum... it seems that image will override flavor here | 15:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Anna Babich proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Functional tests for os-extended-server-attributes (legacy and 2.3 microversion) have been added https://review.openstack.org/232605 | 15:56 |
| sahid | i'm not talking about topology user is asking for, i'm talking about limits | 15:56 |
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| sahid | danpb: oops... forget about me :) | 15:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cale Rath proposed openstack/nova: Purge soft-deleted instances cmd https://review.openstack.org/203751 | 16:09 |
| markus_z | bauzas: Maybe you can have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1504196 I'm not sure if this is a valid bug. | 16:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1504196 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "aggregate instance extra specs filter incorrectly filter out qualified host" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Baodong (Robert) Li (baoli) | 16:11 |
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| bauzas | markus_z: looking | 16:14 |
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| bauzas | markus_z: well | 16:15 |
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| bauzas | markus_z: the main problem is that the flavor extra specs are just freeform | 16:17 |
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| bauzas | markus_z: so we already have a lot of string checks withing the filters | 16:17 |
| bauzas | markus_z: but that's not really cool | 16:17 |
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| bauzas | markus_z: I'd rather prefer to think about how to have those specs more robust | 16:17 |
| bauzas | but that's mid-term | 16:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Print number of rows archived per table in db archive_deleted_rows https://review.openstack.org/232252 | 16:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Make archive_deleted_rows_for_table private https://review.openstack.org/232104 | 16:18 |
| bauzas | markus_z: so, yup, this is a bug, but IMHO not really nice | 16:18 |
| markus_z | bauzas: Yeah, the use of freeform entries surprised me when I've seen them the first time. | 16:18 |
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| bauzas | markus_z: the problem is that N filters are looking at the same strings | 16:19 |
| bauzas | markus_z: like https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/filters/compute_capabilities_filter.py#L97 and https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/filters/aggregate_instance_extra_specs.py#L42 | 16:21 |
| bauzas | and those two are trampling themselves | 16:22 |
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| markus_z | bauzas: I don't understand it. Why is the number of filters a problem? | 16:22 |
| bauzas | markus_z: because they look at the same stuff | 16:23 |
| bauzas | markus_z: so they're basically assuming that the other doesn't exist | 16:23 |
| markus_z | bauzas: I would assume that's a good thing, isn't it? | 16:23 |
| bauzas | markus_z: that depends | 16:23 |
| bauzas | markus_z: since it's freeform, you can put what you want | 16:23 |
| bauzas | but then the UX is just really bad | 16:23 |
| bauzas | that's IMHO exactly the same problem with the hints | 16:24 |
| bauzas | their semantics are not provided by the scheduler | 16:24 |
| bauzas | but at least, one hint = one filter | 16:24 |
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| bauzas | in-tree of course | 16:24 |
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| bauzas | anyone could just write a filter that would trample the semantics of extra_specs keys or hints by just providing a new out-of-tree filter which lookup those diffreently | 16:25 |
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| markus_z | Right, but the HostState is the object which provides the information which is used to filter per host, right? So it is the limiting factor here. | 16:26 |
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| ttx | tagging nova rc2, last patch merged. Yell now if I shouldn't | 16:27 |
| dansmith | ttx: cool, you got the one I wanted | 16:28 |
| dansmith | ttx: I'm good with it | 16:28 |
| dansmith | ttx: johnthetubaguy is in a meeting now I think, but maybe saying his name will invoke his presence | 16:28 |
| ttx | heh, yes. We were pretty clear that we should be good to go once that last one merges | 16:28 |
| dansmith | cool | 16:29 |
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| ndipanov | dansmith, so what I was getting at with the test-and set comment - the zk version of the API could just say - don't update the min_version node unless it's larger than my version atomically and you get min and max for free kind of | 16:32 |
| dansmith | ndipanov: yeah, I got it after it sank in a little | 16:33 |
| ndipanov | memcached has that too | 16:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Anna Babich proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Functional tests for os-extended-server-attributes https://review.openstack.org/232605 | 16:33 |
| dansmith | ndipanov: it has that with operators? | 16:34 |
| ndipanov | and redis as we established already does that automatically | 16:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Anna Babich proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Functional tests for os-extended-server-attributes https://review.openstack.org/232605 | 16:34 |
| ndipanov | tbh I'm not sure memchaced might be a problem | 16:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Converting nova.virt.hyperv to py3 https://review.openstack.org/232554 | 16:34 |
| mriedem | ccarmack: i added you to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232605/ since you were just looking at this | 16:35 |
| dansmith | ndipanov: well, if we have the incremental approach, then we could calculate the min for memcache based on the DB, but use zk to do it if we're on zk | 16:36 |
| ndipanov | dansmith, yar - I'd just be happier with at least a plan to move to a consistent implementation going forward | 16:37 |
| dansmith | ndipanov: I really think if we just move to the service object as the api, with options to mix in liveness calculation we can do quite well in the short term | 16:38 |
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| dansmith | consistency ftw | 16:38 |
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| ndipanov | yeah that's probably not a bad direction | 16:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Print number of rows archived per table in db archive_deleted_rows https://review.openstack.org/232252 | 16:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Make archive_deleted_rows_for_table private https://review.openstack.org/232104 | 16:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Sync cliutils from oslo-incubator https://review.openstack.org/232653 | 16:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: [functional-tests] Check all tests on latest https://review.openstack.org/232677 | 17:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova-specs: Pause VM during live migration https://review.openstack.org/229040 | 17:30 |
| markus_z | dansmith: There is a topic "rename evacuate to resurrect" at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-nova-instance-ha-evacuate-resize | 17:30 |
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| dansmith | markus_z: what you say is true | 17:31 |
| markus_z | dansmith: Is this already ongoing? Because I have a todo from the midcycle with my name on it which I'd like to start. | 17:31 |
| * markus_z has to type faster... | 17:31 | |
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| dansmith | markus_z: no, I'm actually not in favor of the rename | 17:32 |
| dansmith | markus_z: my name is near those lines for different reasons | 17:32 |
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| markus_z | dansmith: Why are you against the rename? | 17:33 |
| dansmith | markus_z: I just don't think it's worth it | 17:33 |
| dansmith | markus_z: I agree it's a better name, but I just don't think it's worth the trouble and confusion | 17:33 |
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| markus_z | dansmith: OK, if I can spent the time on other items, that's fine for me. | 17:36 |
| dansmith | markus_z: well, others think it is worth it, I just don't | 17:37 |
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| markus_z | dansmith: I'll ask around. Thanks. | 17:38 |
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| mriedem | he must have left to go ask around | 17:40 |
| mriedem | dansmith: this is stable branch, want to looksee, it was a hot button thing last week https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230591/ | 17:40 |
| mriedem | we were supposed to get that into stable and release as 2.30.2 | 17:40 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: hmm, not sure I'm up on the version stuff enough to do that.. I'll +W if you can sucker sdague into +2 :) | 17:41 |
| mriedem | i've been passively aggressively hinting to sdague to do that | 17:41 |
| dansmith | mriedem: he's not good with subtle | 17:41 |
| mriedem | sdague: +2 that ^ | 17:41 |
| rhagarty__ | hello - pulled nova master and still get this devstack issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1503975. Suggestions? | 17:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1503975 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "service consoleauth does not start: "no such option: consoleauth_topic"" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Sylvain Bauza (sylvain-bauza) | 17:42 |
| dansmith | better | 17:42 |
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| ccarmack | mriedem: for bug http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-compute-v2.1.html#listServerGroups, I don't see an all_projects parameter on http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-compute-v2.1.html#listServerGroups | 17:47 |
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| mriedem | ccarmack: did you mean to link to a bug there? | 17:48 |
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| ccarmack | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1503042 | 17:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1503042 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Need functional API samples test for os-server-groups GET with all_projects parameter" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Chuck Carmack (chuckcarmack75) | 17:48 |
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| mriedem | so, the api docs are generally sorely lacking | 17:49 |
| mriedem | they are in the nova tree though | 17:49 |
| mriedem | so that could be a separate change if you wanted to do that | 17:49 |
| ccarmack | mriedem: is a doc bug also? | 17:49 |
| mriedem | could be a separate bug | 17:49 |
| mriedem | yeah | 17:49 |
| mriedem | all_projects is not in nova api docs for os-server-groups | 17:49 |
| mriedem | tag with documentation | 17:49 |
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| mriedem | sdague: the api docs in the nova tree, are those auto-generated? i always thought those were manual in a docs repo | 17:54 |
| mriedem | annegentle: ^ | 17:54 |
| annegentle | mriedem: I'm working on a patch to publish to developer.openstack.org | 17:54 |
| mriedem | i'm probably thinking of the api-site repo | 17:54 |
| annegentle | mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230186 | 17:55 |
| annegentle | mriedem: there are api reference documents in api-site, yes, our plan is to start generating swagger instead of maintaining wadl | 17:55 |
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| mriedem | ok, yeah, found this http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/api-site/tree/api-ref/src/docbkx/ch_compute-v2.1.xml | 17:55 |
| annegentle | mriedem: I was going to give a talk with russellsim about this migration at the summit, but he had a family emergency. The spec is here: | 17:56 |
| annegentle | mriedem: specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/liberty/api-site.html | 17:56 |
| mriedem | so nova's api docs are still in api-site for the time being? | 17:56 |
| annegentle | mriedem: yes. We have a patch in play now to consolidate | 17:56 |
| mriedem | ok | 17:56 |
| annegentle | mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229546/ | 17:57 |
| annegentle | mriedem: I haven't checked in with alex this week though and missed the nova api team meeting, | 17:57 |
| annegentle | would like to hear their ongoing work as well | 17:57 |
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| mriedem | ccarmack: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-site/+bug/1504255 | 18:00 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1504255 in openstack-api-site "all_projects is not in nova api docs for os-server-groups" [Undecided,New] | 18:00 |
| sajeesh | ping johnthetubaguy | 18:01 |
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| mriedem | ccarmack: this was the api-site spec http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/liberty/api-site.html | 18:03 |
| ccarmack | annegentle: is the plan to automate API doc generation using swagger? | 18:03 |
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| annegentle | ccarmack: Hell. Yes. | 18:04 |
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| mriedem | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/autogenerate-api-reference | 18:05 |
| annegentle | ccarmack: really there are about 2 ways to get the info, tempest logs and python routes through the given framework. | 18:05 |
| annegentle | that spec above has more details | 18:05 |
| annegentle | ccarmack: this repo also migrates https://github.com/russell/fairy-slipper | 18:05 |
| annegentle | so I guess 3 ways | 18:05 |
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| annegentle | ccarmack: feel free to ask qs | 18:08 |
| ccarmack | annegentle: thanks for the info, just learning this stuff | 18:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Fixes Python 3 compatibility for filter results https://review.openstack.org/232620 | 18:10 |
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| bauzas | sooooo | 18:14 |
| bauzas | TurboHipster seems still bad | 18:14 |
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| mriedem | i feel this is a pretty easy -1 from all nova cores https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214021/ | 18:16 |
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| mriedem | bauzas: looks ok according to this http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova | 18:17 |
| bauzas | mriedem: yup | 18:18 |
| bauzas | mriedem: I checked that too | 18:18 |
| bauzas | but | 18:18 |
| bauzas | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232241/2 | 18:18 |
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| bauzas | 2 rechecks, none of them happy | 18:18 |
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| rhagarty__ | bauzas, any ideas on how to get around this issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1503975 - Seeing this error while stacking... | 18:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1503975 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "service consoleauth does not start: "no such option: consoleauth_topic"" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Sylvain Bauza (sylvain-bauza) | 18:20 |
| bauzas | rhagarty__: since my change isn't yet merged, you need to cherry-pick the SHA | 18:20 |
| bauzas | rhagarty__: git fetch ssh://sbauza@review.openstack.org:29418/openstack/nova refs/changes/67/232367/4 && git cherry-pick FETCH_HEAD | 18:21 |
| bauzas | s/sbauza/your_gerrit_id | 18:21 |
| rhagarty__ | bauzas, thanks - will try that out | 18:21 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Catch InvalidBDMEphemeralSize during boot instance https://review.openstack.org/232505 | 18:22 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Handle Invalid exception during boot process https://review.openstack.org/232506 | 18:22 |
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| sdague | bauzas: http://logs.openstack.org/11/232511/2/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/1ee16b6/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-10-08_16_57_10_032 | 18:42 |
| sdague | n-cauth isn't turned on in a regular job | 18:42 |
| openstackgerrit | John L. Villalovos proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Detect if LOG.logger.disabled has been set https://review.openstack.org/232704 | 18:42 |
| sdague | which, you know, is part of why it was never discovered | 18:42 |
| bauzas | sdague: yup, I see | 18:43 |
| sdague | so, the devstack patch should now blow up if we were trying to run it | 18:44 |
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| bauzas | sdague: yup, it's not failing | 18:44 |
| sdague | right, which I was seriously confused by :) | 18:44 |
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| sdague | and hence dug some more | 18:44 |
| bauzas | sdague: yes, thanks to the log, I saw there was no n-consoleauth | 18:45 |
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| bauzas | rhagarty__: still there ? | 18:46 |
| bauzas | rhagarty__: you told your devstack is failing, could you please post your localrc file? | 18:46 |
| bauzas | in paste.openstack.org | 18:46 |
| bauzas | rhagarty__: also, could you please post the devstack log ? | 18:46 |
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| bauzas | sdague: so, if n-consoleauth is not provided in the gate, I feel we should try to think how to check it in the nova tree | 18:48 |
| sdague | bauzas: sure | 18:48 |
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| bauzas | (my thoughts including the possibly other services on the same case) | 18:49 |
| sdague | this is where we probably need that devstack functional test space | 18:49 |
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| bauzas | agreed | 18:49 |
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| sdague | we could also do something like enable all the nova services for the novaclient functional test | 18:49 |
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| sdague | because we trimmed down the starting services by default in devstack to get headroom | 18:50 |
| bauzas | sdague: sure, I don't want to add those services in the default devstack | 18:50 |
| bauzas | sdague: because of the footprint | 18:50 |
| bauzas | for something not really checked | 18:50 |
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| bauzas | my point was that I thought it was run by default but if not, then we should find some nova job running instead | 18:51 |
| bauzas | sdague: so you said the novaclient functional test ? lemme look | 18:51 |
| doffm | +1 for a full size testing devstack. I currently have a patch up for testing consoles in novaclient. Just tests for 400 error, rather than console urls. | 18:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/nova: Rearranges to create new Compute API Guide https://review.openstack.org/230186 | 18:52 |
| vilobhmm11 | dansmith : ping | 18:54 |
| vilobhmm11 | if you have some time would like to discuss on the servicegroup spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222423/ | 18:55 |
| vilobhmm11 | on the questions you posted the other day | 18:55 |
| dansmith | vilobhmm11: give me about ten minutes | 18:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/nova: Rearranges to create new Compute API Guide https://review.openstack.org/230186 | 18:57 |
| vilobhmm11 | dansmith : sure | 18:58 |
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| mriedem | woot, 2 specs reviewed in like an hour | 18:59 |
| mriedem | i feel so productive | 18:59 |
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| dansmith | vilobhmm11: okay go | 19:03 |
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| vilobhmm11 | dansmith : thanks for the review…many useful point came through the review…i will re-write it in a better fashion.. | 19:04 |
| vilobhmm11 | regarding maintaining state in db and zk | 19:04 |
| vilobhmm11 | esp for rpc timeout or rpc brooken stuff | 19:04 |
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| dansmith | yep | 19:04 |
| vilobhmm11 | would it be nice to keep is_up = {rpc_broken stuff in db} + { liveliness in zk} | 19:05 |
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| dansmith | so jaypipes and I and others were talking about this this morning | 19:05 |
| mriedem | bauzas: yeah i'm seeing t-h failures too | 19:05 |
| bauzas | mriedem: well, I'm running 1.5s/h | 19:06 |
| vilobhmm11 | dansmith : sorry missed the discussion anything significant takeaway from that discussion | 19:06 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: yeah for t-h | 19:06 |
| bauzas | mriedem: and indeed the CI website doesn't say it's bad for some reason | 19:06 |
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| mriedem | who's watching the watchers?! | 19:06 |
| bauzas | eh | 19:07 |
| dansmith | vilobhmm11: I think there is consensus that the api we use for doing anything with services is the Service object | 19:07 |
| dansmith | vilobhmm11: and that we should extend that object to include an is_up property, which is calculated from whatever methods are enabled | 19:07 |
| dansmith | vilobhmm11: so that may be just the DB, or DB+zk | 19:07 |
| dansmith | then we can make many things more efficient, | 19:07 |
| bauzas | catching the convo but +1 with dansmith | 19:08 |
| dansmith | like listing services and getting their is_up as part of the batch, instead of having to list services, and then probe each service for "is it up?" | 19:08 |
| bauzas | that's what I tried to explain in a design pattern way :D | 19:08 |
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| vilobhmm11 | dansmith : ok so liveliness can be managed by CONF.SG_drivier | 19:10 |
| vilobhmm11 | so is_up will monitor 2 things | 19:10 |
| vilobhmm11 | #1. rpc # liveliness | 19:11 |
| vilobhmm11 | liveliness can be managed by CONF.SG_drivier and #1. rpc status can be stored in db ? | 19:11 |
| vilobhmm11 | is the something you are heading towards ? | 19:11 |
| dansmith | vilobhmm11: I'm not sure what you're asking | 19:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Replace N block_device_mapping queries with 1 https://review.openstack.org/229964 | 19:12 |
| vilobhmm11 | dansmith : since you are saying you discussed about moving is_up as a method in nova.objects.Service | 19:13 |
| dansmith | not a method, an attribute | 19:13 |
| dansmith | a field | 19:13 |
| vilobhmm11 | ok | 19:13 |
| dansmith | not much difference, but attribute is pre-calculated, a method would be post | 19:13 |
| vilobhmm11 | sure…so how will it be updated as in is_up = {rpc_broken stuff computed not sure baout this ??} + { liveliness in zk} if zk happens to be the SG driver | 19:14 |
| vilobhmm11 | dansmith : ^^ | 19:14 |
| dansmith | vilobhmm11: right now it will be "db_service.updated_at < 120 && zk.is_up()" | 19:15 |
| vilobhmm11 | ok that makes sense | 19:15 |
| dansmith | and then we may try to optimize the rpc heartbeat to something else | 19:16 |
| dansmith | to make it more lightweight | 19:16 |
| vilobhmm11 | ok | 19:16 |
| vilobhmm11 | so will refine the spec to add these details… #1. Liveliness managed by resp SG driver #2. is_up will be computed based of the information stored in SG driver + DB ( needed to get RPC status) | 19:17 |
| vilobhmm11 | information => liveliness information | 19:17 |
| dansmith | yeah, I'm not sure that's how I would word #1, but write it up in the spec and we'll see | 19:18 |
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| vilobhmm11 | dansmith : sure thanks! will try to add details about how zk/mc will recognize is_up… | 19:19 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: so the plan you have in mind with the SG refactoring would be to have the computes updating the new Service.up field periodically? | 19:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: use NoDBTestCase for KeypairPolicyTest https://review.openstack.org/232721 | 19:48 |
| bauzas | dansmith: I was thinking of just a remotable method | 19:48 |
| bauzas | dansmith: so I'm pretty interested in dumping your brain | 19:48 |
| dansmith | bauzas: for optimization you mean? | 19:48 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: well, re: the above discussion, how we should land the liveness information | 19:49 |
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| dansmith | bauzas: well, right now we just have Service look at the DB and zk (if configured) when we're constructing the object, considering the updated_at timer and the zk information to determine is_up=True | 19:52 |
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| mikal | Morning | 19:52 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: well atm, we only have a SG API which needs to have some service info to know which ZK name to check IIUC | 19:53 |
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| dansmith | bauzas: we just need some interface that can ask tooz "for whatever driver you have configured, is service.binary:service.host up?" right? | 19:55 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: yup, hence my thinking about a method in the Service object | 19:56 |
| bauzas | dansmith: but your comment about an attribute for is_up just made me confusing | 19:56 |
| bauzas | hence my harassing you :) | 19:56 |
| bauzas | me* | 19:57 |
| mikal | Nova meeting in a couple of minutes? | 19:58 |
| dansmith | mikal: no? | 19:58 |
| mikal | Oh wait, timezone change! | 19:58 |
| mikal | Its in an hour, yeah? | 19:58 |
| dansmith | bauzas: I think I'm missing something.. which service are you thinking about is trying to find out if a service is up, when you're thinking we need a method? | 19:59 |
| dansmith | mikal: yes | 19:59 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: okay, I'm confused but also confusing | 19:59 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: so, I thought that the liveness of a specific service could be provided as an extra method bounded to the related Service NovaObject needed to be checked | 20:00 |
| bauzas | dansmith: which would call ZK or toor or whatever pluggable instead of calling the DB | 20:01 |
| bauzas | dansmith: but your comment about rabbit problems is valid | 20:01 |
| dansmith | bauzas: it would look at both, db and rabbit (for now) | 20:01 |
| dansmith | er, db and zk | 20:01 |
| rhagarty__ | bauzas, sorry... too late. I restacked with your patch and it worked. | 20:01 |
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| ccarmack | mriedem: If I create a new python file, do I need to add a copyright? If so, what is the standard copyright? | 20:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Replace N block_device_mapping queries with 1 https://review.openstack.org/229964 | 20:02 |
| bauzas | dansmith: yup, I was writing to say that | 20:02 |
| mriedem | ccarmack: we have an internal wiki for that | 20:02 |
| mriedem | sec | 20:02 |
| bauzas | dansmith: so I was thinking of a Service.is_up(self) remotable method which would then check *both* the updated_at field and the pluggable liveness interface, whatever it is | 20:02 |
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| dansmith | bauzas: but who needs it to be remotable? | 20:03 |
| bauzas | dansmith: oh right | 20:03 |
| mriedem | ccarmack: like this if you're ibm https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227815/3/elastic_recheck/tests/unit/cmd/test_uncategorized_fails.py | 20:04 |
| bauzas | dansmith: I was originally thinking of getting the state of updated_at by getting the db value, hence the remotable | 20:04 |
| dansmith | I mean, we can, I just don't know who needs a remotable method for it | 20:04 |
| bauzas | dansmith: literally, is_up being decorated as a remotable | 20:04 |
| bauzas | dansmith: because computes could just do Service.is_up() - in the RT for example | 20:05 |
| dansmith | bauzas: do computes need to know if they're up? | 20:05 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: well, we're detaching the state of the service from the compute details, so in theory, it could be a call yes | 20:06 |
| dansmith | bauzas: but we /tell/ the scheduler,db,etc if we're up, why do we need to ask the db if we're up? | 20:06 |
| bauzas | in particular with eg. ironic where multiple RTs (b/c multiple computes) couldn't know the service status | 20:06 |
| bauzas | dansmith: that's a good question | 20:07 |
| bauzas | dansmith: sec, just verifying who updates the liveness | 20:07 |
| bauzas | if this is the compute manager, or RT or others | 20:08 |
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| dansmith | bauzas: it's the nova/service code that has a periodic for updating our service health | 20:08 |
| bauzas | oh right | 20:08 |
| dansmith | bauzas: either way, if you need to know it in RT for some reason (I don't know why you would) then you'd not want to make a remotable call all the way back to conductor and db just to find out :) | 20:08 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: yeah you're right | 20:09 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: conceptually, it's a roundtrip | 20:09 |
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| dansmith | not just conceptually :) | 20:09 |
| dansmith | but I still don't know why you'd need to know that in RT | 20:09 |
| dansmith | if you're running RT, then your service record is being updated for you, you can assume you're up, right? :) | 20:10 |
| bauzas | that's what happens with you wait for the nova meeting and just think loud :) | 20:10 |
| bauzas | yeah, I was just thinking of the service information we check when updating the stats | 20:10 |
| dansmith | heh | 20:10 |
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| bauzas | but that's not a liveness check | 20:10 |
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| bauzas | just an existence check | 20:10 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Catch InvalidBDMEphemeralSize during boot instance https://review.openstack.org/232505 | 20:10 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Handle Invalid exception during boot process https://review.openstack.org/232506 | 20:10 |
| mriedem | ctrath: ccarmack: doffm: feel free to chime in, this took me at least a half hour to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227948/ | 20:11 |
| bauzas | doublechecking tho | 20:11 |
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| bauzas | ok, nvm, we actually even removed the service check in the RT, I forgot | 20:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Replaces contextlib.nested with test.nested https://review.openstack.org/232108 | 20:14 |
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| mriedem | i don't think this requires a microversion change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230986/ | 20:30 |
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| mriedem | i challenge others to prove me wrong! | 20:30 |
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| mtreinish | mriedem: I believe you are correct, isnt there something in devref about that? | 20:31 |
| mriedem | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/api_microversion_dev.html#f2 | 20:31 |
| mriedem | yup | 20:31 |
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| dansmith | so it was a trick? | 20:32 |
| mriedem | my challenge? | 20:32 |
| mriedem | i was just surprised jichenjc pushed a spec for it | 20:32 |
| mriedem | we had talked about this extensively for like a week awhile back, which led to the agreement and devref updates | 20:33 |
| mriedem | specifically b/c of his proposed changes | 20:33 |
| dansmith | heh | 20:33 |
| mriedem | but, it's microversion policy so wtf knows, it changes every other week | 20:33 |
| dansmith | heh | 20:34 |
| mriedem | ffs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173985/ | 20:34 |
| mriedem | we merged that | 20:34 |
| mriedem | it's basically the same thing | 20:34 |
| dansmith | well, then the spec is easy! | 20:35 |
| dansmith | Proposed change: nothing | 20:35 |
| mriedem | propose change: confuse the sh*t out of everyone | 20:36 |
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| mriedem | i guess i'm not -2 b/c i have to wait for others to sanity check it | 20:36 |
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| mriedem | same for that on a few specs | 20:36 |
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| ccarmack | mriedem: are you going to trash me on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228908/? | 20:38 |
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| mriedem | yes | 20:38 |
| ccarmack | cool | 20:38 |
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| mriedem | stevemar_: how does osc handle specs/feature changes? | 20:50 |
| mriedem | just a bp in launchpad? | 20:50 |
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| mikal | Meeting in 5 minutes? (attempt two) | 20:55 |
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| bauzas | +1 | 20:55 |
| dansmith | mikal: no? | 20:55 |
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| mriedem | ccarmack: there, -1 | 20:59 |
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| Vek | hehe :) | 20:59 |
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| mriedem | omfg | 21:00 |
| mriedem | Vek: | 21:00 |
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| Vek | mriedem: yes? | 21:01 |
| mriedem | nothing | 21:01 |
| mriedem | just | 21:01 |
| mriedem | shock and awe | 21:01 |
| Vek | heh :) Been meaning to attend a nova meeting for a while, just kept doing something else. Today, I got around to it :) | 21:02 |
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| Vek | hehe :) | 21:09 |
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| stevemar_ | mriedem: yes, just that | 21:09 |
| stevemar_ | mriedem: bp, no spec (we're not that cool) | 21:10 |
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| Vek | is there an alternative? (probably something to discuss separate from this meeting, though...) | 21:11 |
| mriedem | stevemar_: does https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228908/ count? | 21:11 |
| stevemar_ | this just adding a description field to a vm? | 21:12 |
| stevemar_ | mriedem: ^ | 21:12 |
| mriedem | stevemar_: the descirption field is in the db, that exposes the api bits to change it and set it | 21:13 |
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| mriedem | ccarmack: added the osc bits in the spec too | 21:13 |
| mriedem | not sure if they should be there or not, so i pinged you | 21:13 |
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| ccarmack | mriedem: what is osc? | 21:15 |
| mriedem | openstackclient | 21:15 |
| stevemar_ | mriedem: yeah, that's fine, i'm assuming novaclient won't blow up if it's not provided | 21:15 |
| stevemar_ | so we can handle that as a bug in osc | 21:15 |
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| stevemar_ | if we had a blueprint for every option or resource i'd pull my hair out | 21:15 |
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| Vek | but the docs team would probably kiss you on the lips. | 21:16 |
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| mriedem | graphic | 21:17 |
| ccarmack | I admit to not following this: handle as a bug in osc? | 21:18 |
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| stevemar_ | ccarmack: handle the option to set the description in openstackclient | 21:19 |
| ccarmack | stevemar_: why can't I change osc under my spec -- different project? | 21:20 |
| stevemar_ | ccarmack: yessir | 21:20 |
| ccarmack | should I write a companion spec for osc? | 21:21 |
| mriedem | no | 21:22 |
| mriedem | it's trivial | 21:22 |
| mriedem | just push the osc change once the nova api change is landed | 21:22 |
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| mriedem | however, i don't know how osc handles microversions | 21:24 |
| mriedem | i thought it was all just pass through to novaclient | 21:24 |
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| Vek | mriedem: is it showing the problem? | 21:31 |
| mriedem | ? | 21:31 |
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| Vek | mriedem: bah, misdirected; meant that to go to openstack-nova | 21:31 |
| mriedem | you're in openstack-nova | 21:32 |
| Vek | s/openstack-nova/openstack-meeting/ | 21:32 |
| Vek | I'm having one of *those* days %) | 21:32 |
| * Vek wonders if anything he said that was intended for #openstack-meeting actually went there? | 21:33 | |
| mriedem | Vek: i haven't seen you say anythign in there | 21:33 |
| mriedem | your irc skillz are rusty | 21:33 |
| Vek | answers that question :) Yeah, so it would seem. Oh, well, I can still imitate a server with the best of them! :) | 21:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Replace N block_device_mapping queries with 1 https://review.openstack.org/229964 | 22:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Nuke EC2 API https://review.openstack.org/232325 | 22:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Nuke EC2 API https://review.openstack.org/232325 | 22:33 |
| anish | dims: goodbye ec2 support ? | 22:34 |
| dims | anish: don't know yet. just trying to see what it would take | 22:35 |
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