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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/212367 | 06:33 |
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| bauzas | oomichi: hello :) | 07:34 |
| bauzas | oomichi: can see your changes above ^ | 07:34 |
| bauzas | oomichi: got a few mins for discussing ? | 07:35 |
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| oomichi | bauzas: hi :) | 07:35 |
| oomichi | bauzas: nice timing to talk about this | 07:36 |
| bauzas | oomichi: first, thanks for working on that | 07:36 |
| oomichi | bauzas: you too | 07:36 |
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| bauzas | oomichi: so, I think it could be interesting to have the hints providing directly the schema | 07:37 |
| bauzas | oomichi: because those are the consumers of those hints | 07:37 |
| bauzas | oops | 07:37 |
| bauzas | interesting to have the filters* | 07:37 |
| bauzas | oomichi: that said, what I personnally dislike is to expose those API bits within the filters, even if those are the consumers | 07:38 |
| bauzas | because of the layer isolation | 07:38 |
| bauzas | oomichi: that said, I can see that the "HintsLayer + filter" can be seen as only one package | 07:39 |
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| bauzas | having possibly two modules with different namespaces | 07:40 |
| openstackgerrit | octopuszhang proposed openstack/nova: Use JSON format instead of json format https://review.openstack.org/220875 | 07:40 |
| bauzas | oomichi: to follow your idea, I think that one entrypoint could control two things | 07:40 |
| bauzas | oomichi: that said, that would still leave to the operator the responsibility to make consistent which filters are loaded vs. which hints are accepted | 07:42 |
| bauzas | I take that as a trade-off | 07:42 |
| bauzas | oomichi: thoughts on that ? | 07:42 |
| oomichi | bauzas: umm, I guess I don't have enough knowledge of filter on actual cloud env. | 07:43 |
| bauzas | oomichi: that's basically free-form | 07:45 |
| oomichi | bauzas: your concern is that operator needs to implement api schema on each filter, right? | 07:45 |
| bauzas | oomichi: no, my concern is that we have 2 services: n-api and n-sch | 07:45 |
| bauzas | oomichi: and those need to be consistent | 07:45 |
| oomichi | bauzas: ah, yeah, nice point. | 07:46 |
| bauzas | oomichi: but IMHO we shouldn't expose api bits within the n-sch process | 07:46 |
| bauzas | oomichi: so, just to give you an example on whether an hint is accepted or not : | 07:47 |
| bauzas | oomichi: if https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/filters/affinity_filter.py#L36 is asking for different_host | 07:47 |
| bauzas | oomichi: that doesn't really mean that 'different_host' hint will actually by processed | 07:47 |
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| bauzas | oomichi: because | 07:47 |
| bauzas | oomichi: DifferentHost is not running by default https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/host_manager.py#L52-L63 | 07:48 |
| bauzas | oomichi: see the problem ? | 07:48 |
| oomichi | bauzas: Thanks for the explanation, I got it. | 07:49 |
| bauzas | oomichi: ie. we can have writers that can provide hints, but there could be no consumers actually reading it | 07:49 |
| oomichi | bauzas: so we can select available filters on n-sched, but n-api doesn't know available filters if not asking to n-sched, right? | 07:50 |
| bauzas | oomichi: for the moment, since we don't have strict api validation, that's totally acceptable | 07:50 |
| bauzas | oomichi: yeah, but I don't want that :) | 07:50 |
| bauzas | oomichi: like I also don't want to have the n-sch preempting what could be an API schema | 07:51 |
| bauzas | oomichi: so my take on that is to consider that filter #A + hint #A should be the same atomic unit | 07:52 |
| bauzas | oomichi: but those two should necessarly reside in two distinct namespaces | 07:52 |
| openstackgerrit | John Hua proposed openstack/nova: xenapi: Support extra tgz images that with only a single VHD https://review.openstack.org/205831 | 07:52 |
| oomichi | bauzas: in my current implementation, n-api doesn't ask it to n-sched. just tries to get API schema from the code. | 07:52 |
| bauzas | oomichi: hence the operator's responsibility to make consistent to enable hint #A on n-api and filter #A on n-sch | 07:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Added server tags support in nova-api https://review.openstack.org/128940 | 07:52 |
| bauzas | oomichi: but you assert that the scheduler can access the API parameter types | 07:53 |
| oomichi | bauzas: that means the code of n-api and n-sched should be syncronized. | 07:53 |
| bauzas | oomichi: eg. in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220891/2/nova/scheduler/filters/affinity_filter.py,cm | 07:53 |
| bauzas | oomichi: yeah | 07:53 |
| bauzas | oomichi: eg. if the hint #A is missing on n-api, then it's missing when passed over to the scheduler | 07:54 |
| bauzas | that's acceptable IMHO | 07:54 |
| bauzas | oomichi: just trying to leave some notes within your change | 07:56 |
| oomichi | bauzas: the API parameter types also is just code(dict), and n-sched also doesn't need to communicate with n-api about that. | 07:56 |
| oomichi | bauzas: thanks, that will be helpful :) | 07:57 |
| bauzas | oomichi: sure, I understand there is no wiring in your change, but you have assertions of what's an API parameter type within the scheduler | 07:58 |
| bauzas | oomichi: which means that the library has to be consistent between n-api and n-sch | 07:58 |
| bauzas | oomichi: or, if not, for example when removing a type, you should make sure that no scheduler filters are using it | 07:59 |
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| bauzas | oomichi: which means that you create a contract between the sch and the API, just because those two can be upgraded not at the same time | 07:59 |
| oomichi | bauzas: that is a very nice point. yeah, if n-api upgrades first, n-sched cannot handle new parameter even if clients send new parameter and n-api allows it. | 08:01 |
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| bauzas | oomichi: and it becomes worst when two n-sch too | 08:01 |
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| bauzas | oomichi: you are UTC+7 ? | 08:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Resize: Return to initial state instead of ACTIVE when resize fails https://review.openstack.org/202379 | 08:08 |
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| oomichi | bauzas: I'm in JST(UTC+9), and now(5pm) I need to go back to home. see you :) | 08:11 |
| bauzas | oomichi: yup, let's discuss tomorrow then, no worries :) | 08:12 |
| bauzas | oomichi: thanks for spotting the cells hint issue | 08:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Extend scheduler-hints API schema automatically https://review.openstack.org/220440 | 09:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Add API schema for different_cell filter https://review.openstack.org/220893 | 09:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: Migrate scheduler-hints schema to each filter https://review.openstack.org/220891 | 09:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/nova: Add "tenant_id" to network creation schema https://review.openstack.org/220926 | 09:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Add version 3.0 of conductor RPC interface https://review.openstack.org/168857 | 09:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Remove lazy-loading property compute_task_api from compute api https://review.openstack.org/168859 | 09:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Remove conductor 2.x RPC API https://review.openstack.org/168858 | 09:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/220669 | 09:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: Adds RDPConsoleOps unit tests https://review.openstack.org/139798 | 09:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrea Rosa proposed openstack/nova: Add nova-manage command for cleaning attachment https://review.openstack.org/184537 | 09:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Jordan Pittier proposed openstack/nova: libvirt:on snapshot delete, use qemu-img to blockRebase if VM is stopped https://review.openstack.org/192736 | 09:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Jordan Pittier proposed openstack/nova: libvirt:update live_migration_monitor to use Guest https://review.openstack.org/211152 | 09:51 |
| andrearosa | wanghao: I put a new patch for the nova-manage cleaning attachment command, please have a look if you have time | 09:52 |
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| wanghao | andrearosa: Great. I will see it soon. | 10:00 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: heya | 10:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: hey | 10:07 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I discussed with alaski about resuming the Tasks work | 10:07 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: so he provided me some guidance using https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/midcycle-instance-tasks | 10:08 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: do you know if there is an old spec provided somewhere, or is all of this just pre-Juno ? | 10:08 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: can see Icehouse | 10:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I think there were some WIP patches, not sure if I ever saw a spec | 10:09 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: yeah, there are old WIPs | 10:09 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: but I haven't found a spec, just a placeholder BP | 10:09 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: yeah, thats very possible | 10:09 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: okay ack, then I'll write down something | 10:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I think there are two main parts in my head, the API and the error handling | 10:10 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: yeah, alaski was first providing the API and persistint bits | 10:10 |
| bauzas | persisting* | 10:10 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I think it's doable for Mitaka | 10:10 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: just providing the API and persisted bits - and discuss on the error handling in Tokyo | 10:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: so I am tempting to say attack it the other way around | 10:11 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: by the error handling ? | 10:11 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: orly? because you think it's doable without having a stable structure ? | 10:12 |
| eliqiao | hello cores, can you kindly help to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216123/ (high bug I think) | 10:12 |
| andreykurilin | johnthetubaguy, sdague: hi! I found one more issue releated to v2.1 (backward incompatibility) - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1492971 | 10:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1492971 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Nova V2.1 doesn't accept tenant_id for networks create" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Andrey Kurilin (andreykurilin) | 10:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: so we have instance actions on some action, we could look at refreshing that effort, as a starting point | 10:13 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: fair point | 10:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: once we have some decent info in there, we could expose it through a nicer API | 10:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | (deprecate the old one, etc) | 10:15 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: that involves that we consider instance_actions table as good enough for modeling what we want to have | 10:15 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: but that's an open question, for sure | 10:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: nope, I suspect fixing instance actions will involve expanding that | 10:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ramaraja proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Fix nova --help needs authentication https://review.openstack.org/220919 | 10:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I think you can argue either way around | 10:16 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: well, you have a valid point | 10:16 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: creating a new model doesn't necessarly mean we solve our problemùs | 10:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: the aim from the error handling side, I feel, is to spot when things get dropped and one one is working on them any more | 10:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: we have lots of error handling already, I want to see us tidy it up, and expose the details to folks correctly | 10:17 |
| bauzas | mmm | 10:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | instance faults should really be just part of the instance action, and available via the API, with the correct policy, for example | 10:18 |
| bauzas | I see, fair point again | 10:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | there are those things in the compute manager start up, that spot half completed tasks, it would be nice if there was a more general system to spot that kind of thing (spot pending tasks, etc) | 10:19 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: agreed | 10:19 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: cool, seems like you see where I am pointing | 10:19 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: yeah, I totally get that, I have some internal discussion about power states etc. | 10:20 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: and how the compute manager is handling stuck instances | 10:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | what do you mean by "stuck" instances? stuff stuck in a task state? | 10:20 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: well, you know the famous bit of reset-state | 10:21 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: when instances get stuck when deleted etc. | 10:21 |
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| johnthetubaguy | well, there is cancel and stuck | 10:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 10:21 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: but like you said, all of that is error handling | 10:23 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: not exactly what Tasks was scoping with for example, tasks cancellation | 10:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I see error handling as the key part of tasks | 10:23 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: yeah, I see now why | 10:23 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: because we need to clean that mess up before providing more | 10:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: for me its about making the system more stable, by increasing the visibility into what is currently happening, and spotting when nothing is happening and automatically fixing it | 10:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, at that point, we could consider cancelling | 10:24 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: yeah, okay I got food for thoughts | 10:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: honestly, I see a few stages, let me attempt to remember... | 10:25 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I just remember https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-nova-error-handling | 10:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | 1) fix up error handling, add instance actions everwhere | 10:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: yeah | 10:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | 2) come up with a good tasks API, add the basics to replace "instance actions" | 10:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | 1b) try to detect stuck/failed operations and move instance to Error state (or attempt some kind of recovery/revert, if possible) | 10:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | 3) add bits in code to support the rest of the new API | 10:28 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: okay, I'm +1 | 10:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | 4) expose those new bits by updating the API (including the Admin view of task progress, etc) | 10:28 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: you made a very valid point | 10:28 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: yeah, makes sense | 10:29 |
| bauzas | okay, I have enough to consider, I need to dig in code, and see particulary #1 | 10:29 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: thanks | 10:30 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: very useful feedback | 10:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: no problems, let me find a hidden bit one sec | 10:30 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I need to drop off, ttyl | 10:32 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: no worries, catch you later | 10:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: this was the thing: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L6263 | 10:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: Fixes snapshoting inexistent VM issue https://review.openstack.org/214560 | 10:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marian Horban proposed openstack/nova: Rsync compression removed https://review.openstack.org/209957 | 11:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: it would be awesome if you can quickly rebase these ones: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189323/28 should be a simple fast re-approve now, I assume? | 11:09 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: just looking at the priorities etherpad, I think the scheduler one is looking a little out of date now | 11:11 |
| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: hi | 11:11 |
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| danpb | johnthetubaguy: did dan smiths stuff merge now | 11:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: I thought it did, let me double check | 11:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: yeah, its merged: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/liberty-bump-object-and-rpcapi-versions,n,z | 11:18 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy: hi! you approved https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147514/ but it failed on the gate due to a conflicting change. I resolved the conflict. Could you please check it? | 11:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi: sure, I should be able to fast approve, let me take a look for you | 11:21 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy: thanks a lot! | 11:21 |
| danpb | johnthetubaguy: ok i;ll rebase | 11:21 |
| garyk | johnthetubaguy: when can we start to bug you about unblocking features for M? | 11:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Resize: Return to initial state instead of ACTIVE when resize fails https://review.openstack.org/202379 | 11:27 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: hi back | 11:39 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: so, stale etherpad, mmm ? lemme look | 11:39 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: which part of the scheduler makes you think it's stale? | 11:40 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: okay, I think I understand - will update it | 11:41 |
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| oomichi | bauzas: hi, I am back for a small discussion about that. is it possible now? | 11:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/220669 | 12:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: add support for muti_statuses_query from migration https://review.openstack.org/169631 | 12:01 |
| bauzas | oomichi: alex_xu, API meeting ? | 12:04 |
| alex_xu | bauzas: tomorrow :) | 12:04 |
| bauzas | *facepalm* | 12:05 |
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| bauzas | oomichi: gimme 5 min if you agree | 12:06 |
| oomichi | bauzas: thanks, ok for me ;) | 12:06 |
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| jordanP | guys I would really appreciate if some cores could have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192736/ (libvirt:on snapshot delete, use qemu-img to blockRebase if VM is stopped). It closes 2 bugs and the patch has been there for 3 month now with some positive review by non cores | 12:10 |
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| bauzas | oomichi: back there, sorry I needed to recaffeinate :) | 12:15 |
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| oomichi | bauzas: thanks for going back :) | 12:15 |
| oomichi | bauzas: re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220440/ | 12:16 |
| bauzas | oomichi: yup, saw your new PSes, had no time yet to review them | 12:16 |
| oomichi | bauzas: I'd like to confirm your opinion is applied to the latest patch. | 12:16 |
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| oomichi | bauzas: ok, I will see your comment if you can later. | 12:17 |
| bauzas | oomichi: I can review it briefly now, since it's pretty late for you | 12:17 |
| oomichi | bauzas: since your point, how about implementing pep8 rule for blocking my previous wrong way ? | 12:18 |
| oomichi | bauzas: I think we can implement your point as pep8 rule. that will be helpful. | 12:18 |
| bauzas | oomichi: you mean importing a separate module ? | 12:19 |
| oomichi | bauzas: yeah, a new pep8 blocks import nova.api.... in nova.scheduler | 12:19 |
| bauzas | oomichi: honestly, I'm not really opiniated to do that | 12:19 |
| bauzas | oomichi: I think all of those are captured at review time by other peers | 12:20 |
| oomichi | bauzas: ok, just one idea for blocking my mistack again;) | 12:20 |
| oomichi | bauzas: s/mistak/mistake/ | 12:20 |
| bauzas | oomichi: yeah, honestly I think we're good with reviews | 12:21 |
| bauzas | oomichi: but maybe someone could argue differently | 12:21 |
| bauzas | oomichi: what I consider pretty tricky is for example with the objects | 12:21 |
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| bauzas | oomichi: we should get then whitelists of namespaces that we can import and blacklists of namespaces that we need to isolate explicitely | 12:22 |
| oomichi | bauzas: ah, interesting idea! | 12:22 |
| bauzas | oomichi: like it's really valid to accept nova.objects but definitely not to call db.api | 12:22 |
| bauzas | oomichi: I think it could become very difficult to maintain, nope? | 12:23 |
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| bauzas | oomichi: other point, I very quickly reviewed your new change | 12:24 |
| bauzas | oomichi: I think we should rather decouple filters and hints | 12:24 |
| oomichi | bauzas: yeah, right. and I guessed it is nice that your previous point lives forever as pep8 rule | 12:24 |
| bauzas | oomichi: for the moment, I think we can live it as a review checklist rule | 12:25 |
| bauzas | oomichi: what I dislike with your new change is that you're loading the filters within the api code | 12:25 |
| bauzas | oomichi: and then you expose a method for getting the schema within the hint | 12:26 |
| bauzas | oomichi: I'd rather, like I said, decouple the hint definition from the filter usage | 12:26 |
| bauzas | oomichi: ie. split the existing properties into single modules, one per hint | 12:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | claudiub: got an annoying issue with this patch, and the log messages it adds: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214493/9 | 12:27 |
| bauzas | oomichi: and make the list of what can be loaded as a new conf opt | 12:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | claudiub: we have hit string freeze now | 12:27 |
| oomichi | bauzas: that means we need to add new modules for each filter? | 12:27 |
| bauzas | like enabled_hints=['different_host', ...] | 12:27 |
| oomichi | bauzas: enabled_hints=['different_host', ...] is only for API ? | 12:28 |
| bauzas | oomichi: that means that it's up to the operator responsibility to make that list of accepted hints consistent with the running filters | 12:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | oomichi: bauzas: this all sounds like stuff for mitaka really, or is there something more urgent here? | 12:28 |
| claudiub | johnthetubaguy: sure, I can remove the translation stuff. | 12:28 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: that's mitaka I feel | 12:28 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: accepting additionalProperties=True for Liberty is enough IMHO | 12:29 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: provided we fix the bug that oomichi spotted | 12:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | claudiub: I think debug logs with a TODO is an approach I have seen work before, can always do the follow up patch so its ready I guess? | 12:29 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: ie. https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1492925 | 12:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1492925 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Lack of API schema definition for different cell filter" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Ken'ichi Ohmichi (oomichi) | 12:29 |
| oomichi | johnthetubaguy, bauzas: without effect of v2.1 API | 12:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | claudiub: I was looking at the attach nic, it seems too simple somehow... like we are missing info from neutron, but I guess its always that way | 12:30 |
| claudiub | johnthetubaguy: yep, I'll let you know when it's done. just answering your comments and uploading a new ps | 12:30 |
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| johnthetubaguy | claudiub: cool, thank you | 12:30 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: back to the problem, without effect of v2.1 API, then after user switch to v2.1, the out-of-tree filters will be broken.... | 12:30 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: oomichi: that's why I'm advocating for additionalProperties=true for Liberty | 12:31 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: bauzas what expected for additionalProperties after we have , saw your new PSes, had no time yet to | 12:32 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: yeah, right. my concern was the same as yours as https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217727/ | 12:32 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: bauzas what expected for additionalProperties after we have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220440/ | 12:32 |
| claudiub | johnthetubaguy: well, there is nothing else to the attach nic. it is the same as in the spawn / create_instance method. On hyper-v, there is the neutron-hyperv-agent which runs. Periodically, it checks for new NICs and binds VLANs/other and connects them to their proper networks. | 12:32 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: oomichi: and once oomichi's changes are merged, we could set aP back to False | 12:32 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Ironic: Call unprovison for nodes in DEPLOYING state https://review.openstack.org/209457 | 12:33 |
| alex_xu | bauzas: I thought aP still keep True | 12:33 |
| bauzas | oomichi: alex_xu: but like I said, I just feel that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220440/ should be landed in Mitaka, even with a spec IMHO | 12:33 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: I don't think it's necessary - and even not neeed | 12:33 |
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| bauzas | needed* | 12:34 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: if we're enforcing the hints taxonomy, we could set aP to False | 12:34 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: how about separating v2.0 api schema from v2.1 api for avoiding effect of v2.1 api | 12:34 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: our main problem is just for v2.0 compatible api | 12:34 |
| alex_xu | bauzas: oomichi https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220440/ will add out-of-tree hints to our API schema? that sounds let people think those out-of-tree hints is part of our api contract | 12:34 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: and given the DefCore effort, I think we should move forwards setting aP back to False | 12:34 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: just now | 12:35 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: meh, good point ! | 12:35 |
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| bauzas | how OpenStack extensibility and modularity is managed given DefCore ? | 12:35 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: it is difficult to say scheduler-hint is an exception of microversions contract at this time. | 12:35 |
| alex_xu | bauzas: oomichi so I think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220440/ will list all the upstream hints into the json-schema whatever it enabled or not | 12:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Resize: Return to initial state instead of ACTIVE when resize fails https://review.openstack.org/202379 | 12:35 |
| bauzas | unfortunately, that's Labor Day so we're missing jaypipes and sdague here | 12:36 |
| alex_xu | to discover which hints enabled or not, there should be another capabilities discover API. | 12:36 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: oomichi: the more we discuss, the more I think it needs to be a spec | 12:36 |
| oomichi | bauzas: yeah, exactly right | 12:36 |
| alex_xu | yea, sounds like a feature | 12:37 |
| bauzas | because we need to be very clear about how we "bless' the hints taxonomy | 12:37 |
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| bauzas | if we autoload out-of-tree hints, it will make them first citizens, exactly like in-tree hints | 12:37 |
| alex_xu | so I expected aP always True for out-of-tree hints. | 12:37 |
| bauzas | which is bad IMHO | 12:37 |
| alex_xu | the upstream hints should be listed in the json-schema | 12:38 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: but that is against current microversions cntract.. | 12:38 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: I think accepting aP to True should be kept as a mitigation action, but the more we discuss, the more I think we should discriminate between in-tree hints and out-of-tree hints | 12:38 |
| oomichi | s/cntract/contract/ | 12:38 |
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| bauzas | oomichi: yeah because the contract could be different between two OpenStack clouds | 12:39 |
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| bauzas | which breaks interop | 12:39 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: yea, that is really pain...I spend many hour try to find a way to resolve that....I thought the only way is we think that is a bug. we break the initial contract, we should fix it back... | 12:39 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: oomichi: for the moment, setting aP to True is reasonable for Liberty | 12:39 |
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| bauzas | oomichi: but for Mitaka, we should clearly define another request body element for out-of-tree hints IMHO | 12:40 |
| oomichi | bauzas: if just for v2.0 compatible api without any effect of v2.1, I agree with that. | 12:40 |
| alex_xu | bauzas: yea, the hard part is we set for v2 only or v2 and v2.1 both.... | 12:40 |
| bauzas | oomichi: yeah that, only for v2.0 compat | 12:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: Implements attach_interface and detach_interface method https://review.openstack.org/214493 | 12:40 |
| alex_xu | ok, all the user switch to v2.1 their out-of-tree filters will be broken... | 12:41 |
| bauzas | oomichi: okay, I think I'm opiniated now: the HintsController should only manage in-tree filters | 12:41 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: yeah, that is right. but it is possible to defer the problem to mitaka ;) | 12:42 |
| bauzas | oomichi: which means that for out-of-tree filters, we could allow a separate dict for passing out-of-tree hints, but that would basically be just a placeholder | 12:42 |
| claudiub | johnthetubaguy: done: https://review.openstack.org/214493 | 12:42 |
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| bauzas | oomichi: meaning that the client would define --hint for passing an in-tree hint, and --something_else_hint for passing an out-of-tree hint | 12:43 |
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| bauzas | oomichi: but we should be very clear, the API contract for hints is this way : an OpenStack cloud can possibly run up to those hints, not more than that | 12:44 |
| oomichi | bauzas: sorry, I could not catch your point. | 12:44 |
| bauzas | damn French | 12:44 |
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| bauzas | oomichi: so | 12:44 |
| bauzas | oomichi: trying to rephrase, apologies for such confusion | 12:44 |
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| bauzas | oomichi: per Defcore rules, an OpenStack cloud is self-containing its APIs, there is no possible extension, right? | 12:45 |
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| oomichi | bauzas: ah, that is difficult question. | 12:46 |
| oomichi | bauzas: refstack is a tool for defcore. and refstack is using tempest. | 12:47 |
| bauzas | I know | 12:47 |
| oomichi | bauzas: tempest is blocking additionalProperties on API response. | 12:47 |
| bauzas | from my perspective, an hint is just a request body argument from an API endpoint | 12:47 |
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| oomichi | bauzas: yeah, right. scheduler-hint can be passed on refstack tests. | 12:48 |
| oomichi | bauzas: because nova-api doesn't return response which include scheduler-hint. | 12:48 |
| bauzas | oomichi: so, what happens with extensions and hooks that we had with v2.0 ? | 12:48 |
| bauzas | I know that we removed the extension model in v2.1, right? | 12:48 |
| bauzas | unless I misunderstood | 12:49 |
| oomichi | bauzas: we *will* remove the extension model | 12:49 |
| oomichi | bauzas: now nova-api still suports the model | 12:49 |
| bauzas | oomichi: okay | 12:49 |
| bauzas | oomichi: but you tend towards removing it, right? | 12:49 |
| bauzas | oomichi: given that for the moment it's not yet done, gotcha | 12:50 |
| oomichi | bauzas: yeah, that is right. and I think that is a concensus | 12:50 |
| bauzas | that's a consensus | 12:50 |
| oomichi | bauzas: yeah, right | 12:50 |
| oomichi | bauzas: but this concensus was based on nova api is the same between clouds. | 12:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | note, there is a issues thats still unresolved, folks with custom v2.0 API extensions wanting to switch to v2.1, we might need a bit of magic to help with that transition... | 12:51 |
| bauzas | so, what's the difference between an out-of-tree extension enabling a new REST resource, and an out-of-tree hint adding a new semantic to a request body arg ? | 12:51 |
| oomichi | bauzas: but I found different parameters of scheduler-hints between clouds now. | 12:51 |
| bauzas | oomichi: yeah, that's two concerns : 1/ modularity (you can specify which filters you wanna run) and 2/ extensibility (you can provide out-of-tree filters) than add a new hint | 12:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | both are broken right now, in my view, but we do support them right now, so we will at least need some transition time | 12:52 |
| bauzas | tbc, #1 is fine with me | 12:53 |
| bauzas | (modularity) | 12:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am OK with out of tree scheduler things, I think, I am much less OK with out of tree hints | 12:54 |
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| oomichi | bauzas: as the first purpose, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220440/ just provides modularity for code cleanup. and I did think we can say "out-of-tree filter also can be available" as side effect. | 12:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | well I would rather not have either I guess | 12:54 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: but an hint is a scheduler UX :) | 12:54 |
| oomichi | bauzas: that is just a public stance of an upstream developer | 12:55 |
| bauzas | right | 12:55 |
| bauzas | okay, I think we're trying to tackle two distinct problems | 12:56 |
| bauzas | #1 how to validate in-tree hints given the running filters | 12:56 |
| oomichi | bauzas: I wanted to avoid breaking microversions contract as a public stance. | 12:56 |
| bauzas | => that's oomichi's changes | 12:56 |
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| bauzas | #2 how to enable the possibility to accept out-of-tree filters that could possibly use their own taxonomy for hints | 12:57 |
| bauzas | oomichi: I totally agree | 12:57 |
| bauzas | oomichi: maybe I'm unclear, having modularity doesn't break the microversions contract ? | 12:57 |
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| alex_xu | bauzas: for #2, aP = True | 12:58 |
| oomichi | bauzas: as a *public* stance ;-) | 12:58 |
| bauzas | oomichi: ie. can I consider that cloud #1 is accepting different_host and cloud #2 is not accepting different_host | 12:58 |
| bauzas | ? | 12:58 |
| bauzas | okay, let's leave the out-of-tree hints out of our conversation for now | 12:59 |
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| bauzas | if I'm just focusing on the current hints, I think we're not breaking the microversion contract if one cloud is not running all the filters defining the hints ? | 13:00 |
| bauzas | oomichi: $ | 13:00 |
| bauzas | oomichi: ^ | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | The cloud didn't enable differet_host filter, it still accept different_host hint, and then it can just ignore that hint or return status for notimpelement | 13:00 |
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| oomichi | bauzas: that is a very gray area now. | 13:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladyslav Drok proposed openstack/nova: DO NOT MERGE - Triggering experimental pipeline https://review.openstack.org/220229 | 13:02 |
| oomichi | bauzas: we are saying deployers can implement their own filters on rst files in nova tree | 13:03 |
| bauzas | oomichi: in the current implementation, it will still return me a 202 (server create) even if the filter is not running | 13:03 |
| bauzas | oomichi: you could just lead to an incorrect placement decision (ie. different from the one you considered) | 13:03 |
| oomichi | bauzas: but when we implements microversions, we missed that point | 13:03 |
| bauzas | oomichi: so, that's why I think we don't clearly have a problem with the existing hints | 13:04 |
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| oomichi | bauzas: yeah, that is unclear now. | 13:05 |
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| bauzas | oomichi: anyway, for the existing hints, there are 3 possibilities | 13:06 |
| bauzas | possibility #1, the filter is enabled and the hint is enforced, that's the trivial case | 13:06 |
| oomichi | bauzas: maybe you disabled some schedulers on configuration, and you tested 202 even if passing the corresponding scheduler-hint param, rgh | 13:06 |
| oomichi | bauzas: ? | 13:07 |
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| bauzas | oomichi: okay, lemme rephrase | 13:08 |
| oomichi | bauzas: much sorry, can you write them on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220440/ or https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217727/ ? | 13:09 |
| bauzas | oomichi: sure, can try | 13:09 |
| bauzas | my biggest enemy is my English level | 13:09 |
| oomichi | bauzas: my wife starts getting angry.. | 13:09 |
| bauzas | heh | 13:09 |
| oomichi | bauzas: see you ;) | 13:09 |
| bauzas | sure, we can resume our convo tomorrow ! | 13:10 |
| bauzas | oomichi: ++ | 13:10 |
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| alex_xu | so quite today | 13:24 |
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| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: yup | 13:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: pesky us holidays | 13:27 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: :) they back tomorrow? | 13:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: I believe so | 13:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | mind you, I had last monday off for the same reason, so I can't talk | 13:27 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: cool | 13:27 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: ok... pretend you aren't here | 13:28 |
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| openstack | Launchpad bug 1491905 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "neutronclient in nova doesn't issue new token" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1491905 - Assigned to Timofey Durakov (tdurakov) | 14:03 |
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| PaulMurray | bauzas, no scheduler meeting? | 14:07 |
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| bauzas | PaulMurray: nope, n0ano said that since it was Labor Day, we were exempt of labor for today | 14:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Unify on _schedule_instances https://review.openstack.org/219761 | 14:09 |
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| PaulMurray | bauzas, dare I say US are worse than your lot? Celebrating the labor movement by not working..... ha | 14:09 |
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| * PaulMurray probably shouldn't say that in public :) only joking | 14:10 | |
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| bauzas | hah | 14:12 |
| bauzas | PaulMurray: well, it's on 1st of May for us | 14:12 |
| bauzas | we're also celebrating that way :D | 14:13 |
| PaulMurray | bauzas, actually, so do we. There is a reason why US does not have it in may - I'll leave that to you to look up | 14:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Unify on _schedule_instances https://review.openstack.org/219761 | 14:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs: Parallel Scheduler for cells v2 backlog spec https://review.openstack.org/191914 | 14:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: ensure that instance is deleted https://review.openstack.org/220410 | 14:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: docs: split up upgrade and upgrade futures https://review.openstack.org/201529 | 14:34 |
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| bauzas | call me dumb but does anyone know if that's a rule that Jenkins shouldn't be calling the Tempest tests if the change is only touching the unittests ? | 14:39 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs: Improve description of priorities with no plan https://review.openstack.org/216167 | 14:39 |
| jordanP | bauzas, yes it is. | 14:40 |
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| bauzas | jordanP: ack thanks | 14:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: ensure that instance is deleted when volume is missing https://review.openstack.org/220410 | 14:41 |
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| lxsli | bauzas: so my unmoxify patch | 14:49 |
| bauzas | lxsli: yep | 14:49 |
| lxsli | bauzas: how do you want it split up? I can do it by test case, they're unrelated | 14:49 |
| bauzas | lxsli: zactly | 14:49 |
| bauzas | lxsli: honestly, that's just for getting more traction :) | 14:49 |
| lxsli | OK, previously I've been clobbered for splitting this sort of thing up ^^ | 14:49 |
| bauzas | lxsli: I also wonder how by difficult it was to provide https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219761/ without the above as a dep ? | 14:50 |
| lxsli | bauzas: it'd be possible but that wouldn't address the root issue of hard-to-update mox tests | 14:51 |
| bauzas | lxsli: I'd tend to prefer both unrelated even if that needs a rebase strategy | 14:51 |
| bauzas | lxsli: sure, but that's not really necessary ;) | 14:52 |
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| lxsli | I think agility is pretty important | 14:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova: Mask the token used to allow access to vnc console https://review.openstack.org/220622 | 14:53 |
| lxsli | We don't /have/ to pay off tech debt, no, but since I'm doing the work for free it seems smart to accept the cheque :) | 14:53 |
| bauzas | lxsli: it's your call | 14:53 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: FWIW, etherpad updated for the scheduler bits, you can take a rest | 15:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: cool, thanks for the update | 15:03 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I also saw you took opportunity of an US holiday for updating your specs, eh | 15:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Add a summary of the architecture evolution work https://review.openstack.org/200001 | 15:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Visnusaran Murugan proposed openstack/nova: VMWare: Check token in ResultSet before accessing 'propSet' https://review.openstack.org/221038 | 15:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/220669 | 15:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: docs: add the scheduler evolution plans https://review.openstack.org/192260 | 15:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrea Rosa proposed openstack/nova: Add nova-manage command for cleaning attachment https://review.openstack.org/184537 | 15:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Unify on _schedule_instances https://review.openstack.org/219761 | 15:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Unmoxify ConductorTestCase - build_instances https://review.openstack.org/221014 | 15:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Unmoxify ConductorTestCase - unshelve https://review.openstack.org/221054 | 15:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Unmoxify ConductorTestCase - rebuild https://review.openstack.org/221055 | 15:25 |
| lxsli | bauzas: there you go ^^ | 15:26 |
| bauzas | lxsli: nice thanks | 15:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | lxsli: did you see this change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168858/ | 15:27 |
| lxsli | haha nope | 15:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | lxsli: compute task API stats though, just thought I would let you know about the other bits | 15:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/nova: Ironic: Lightweight fetching of nodes https://review.openstack.org/221057 | 15:29 |
| lxsli | johnthetubaguy: sorry I don't quite understand the implication | 15:31 |
| lxsli | johnthetubaguy: are all the tests I'm fixing going to be removed real soon? | 15:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | lxsli: I think you are good, those ones are staying, its just the many of the others are going | 15:32 |
| lxsli | phew! | 15:32 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: oh correct, I saw that change | 15:33 |
| bauzas | lxsli: sorry, I missed to update you with that one | 15:33 |
| lxsli | bauzas: the dangers of remote working, you can spend a couple of days on something which turns out to be irrelevant | 15:33 |
| bauzas | lxsli: tbh, I saw that one but I forgot it was removing lots of tests | 15:34 |
| bauzas | lxsli: hence why small changes | 15:34 |
| lxsli | well this all grew out of an inability to fix tests for check-dest-on-migration | 15:35 |
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| lxsli | or to be precise an unwillingness to fix rubbish :P | 15:36 |
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| bauzas | lxsli: life is hard, I know | 15:37 |
| bauzas | :p | 15:37 |
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| lxsli | Can refactorings/test changes be merged before Mitaka? | 15:40 |
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| bauzas | lxsli: yep | 15:42 |
| bauzas | lxsli: until RC1 | 15:43 |
| bauzas | which is basically the same :) | 15:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | string changes are the big no no right now | 15:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | AFAIK anyways | 15:43 |
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| lxsli | Great thanks | 15:44 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: hey, quite a tricky question | 16:03 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: do you have a few mins ? | 16:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: sure | 16:03 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149562/9/nova/tests/unit/api/openstack/compute/contrib/test_extended_availability_zone.py,cm | 16:03 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: so, I'm about reworking on that one | 16:03 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: since it's potentially an API impact, I just wonder if correcting a bugfix requires a microversion | 16:04 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: technically speaking, yes but the previous behaviour was buggy | 16:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: whats the impact? | 16:05 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: tl; dr: there is a corner case before an instance is having an host (ie. before the scheduler returns an host and the compute relates it) | 16:06 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: in that case, the AZ API will return the default AZ | 16:06 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: which is incorrect, it should rather return None or '' | 16:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | hmm, doesn't feel like it needs a version bump | 16:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | we wouldn't bother to ever had the old behavior for older versions | 16:08 |
| bauzas | that's my thoughts, I could possibly ask the question during the API meeting | 16:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, its worth an ask | 16:10 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172906/4 was also related | 16:10 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: so I take that as a package | 16:10 |
| danpb | ooh, wow, Instance object split in two, InstanceV1, InstanceV2 | 16:11 |
| * danpb wonders what this is all about | 16:11 | |
| bauzas | danpb: dansmith's changes | 16:11 |
| bauzas | danpb: for providing new ways to backport objects | 16:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: its the major version bump, so we can drop the old bits | 16:11 |
| bauzas | that too ^ | 16:12 |
| bauzas | :) | 16:12 |
| dansmith | danpb: johnthetubaguy: we should land this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220689/ | 16:13 |
| * danpb wonders what this means for people changing instance though | 16:13 | |
| dansmith | to make sure people don't add anything to v1 until we drop it | 16:13 |
| danpb | eg if we change a field, must be update both V1 and V2 versions or only V2 | 16:13 |
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| dansmith | danpb: only v2 | 16:13 |
| dansmith | danpb: are you changing things between now and lemming release? | 16:13 |
| bauzas | dansmith: go back to bed and enjoy your holiday ! | 16:14 |
| dansmith | heh, I know | 16:14 |
| danpb | dansmith: no, i'm not - i just noticed it when rebasing and wondered about the implications for future changes | 16:14 |
| danpb | your test case addition clarifies that nicely though :-) | 16:14 |
| dansmith | cool | 16:14 |
| bauzas | heh, shoot :) | 16:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: objects: convert config drive to use ImageMeta object https://review.openstack.org/189323 | 16:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: objects: add virtual 'image_meta' property to Instance object https://review.openstack.org/190145 | 16:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: convert to use instance.image_meta property https://review.openstack.org/190146 | 16:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: compute: convert manager to use nova.objects.ImageMeta https://review.openstack.org/189685 | 16:22 |
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| johnthetubaguy | alaski: a fun shelved bug that needs a good look: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194063/4 | 17:29 |
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| obedmr | hi there, how good it could be to have a dedicated memcached server for nova-compute nodes? instead of having it in the controller node? | 19:25 |
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| mikal | Morning | 21:41 |
| mcarden | And a fine and sunny one it is too mikal | 21:45 |
| mikal | mcarden: lol | 21:47 |
| mcarden | That may be the least witty thing I have ever said that attracted a lol. | 21:48 |
| mikal | So, it was just too chipper | 21:49 |
| mikal | We have a mandatory morose period until 11am each day here at Rackspace Australia | 21:50 |
| mcarden | Gosh. I may require some adjustment. | 21:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marian Horban proposed openstack/nova: [WIP]Remove wsgi functionality https://review.openstack.org/221118 | 22:12 |
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