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| openstackgerrit | Ren Qiaowei proposed openstack/nova: Remove unnecessary executable permission https://review.openstack.org/202376 | 03:50 |
| eliqiao | wanghao: ping | 03:58 |
| wanghao | eliqiao: here | 03:58 |
| eliqiao | can you please check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180457/3/nova/compute/api.py and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171984/9 | 03:59 |
| eliqiao | wanghao: seems need some co-works.. | 03:59 |
| eliqiao | wanghao: I will be out for lunch, if you are interested with it, we can disscuss afternoon , okay? | 04:01 |
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| wanghao | eliqiao: Looks like it's same problem. I'd like to discuss this with you. But sorry I have a meet at 2:30. I will ping you when it finish. | 04:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: Add functional test for server group https://review.openstack.org/147514 | 04:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: api: add soft-affinity policies for server groups https://review.openstack.org/147520 | 04:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: scheduler: add soft-(anti-)affinity weighers https://review.openstack.org/147516 | 04:54 |
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| eliqiao | wanghao: okay, get it. | 05:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/197213 | 06:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Skip additionalProperties checks when LegacyV2CompatibleWrapper enabled https://review.openstack.org/193858 | 06:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Add scenario for API sample tests with legacy v2 compatible wrapper https://review.openstack.org/203485 | 06:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Add support of latest version in CLI https://review.openstack.org/184281 | 08:30 |
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| abhishekk | danbp: hi, you around? | 08:48 |
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| nagyz | if I'd like to update the compute filter for rootwrap, is there a way to specify multiple regexps in an OR fashion? maybe one regexpfilter per line? | 11:58 |
| nagyz | currently it's very iSCSI specific and ceph doesn't even put the block device under /dev/disk/by-path | 11:59 |
| nagyz | ah ok mriedem has a change that relaxes this | 12:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Added removing of tags from instance after its destroying https://review.openstack.org/204053 | 12:15 |
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| tdurakov | Hi, do we have thread for stable/kilo freeze for 2015.1.1 thread exception? | 12:21 |
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| wanghao | ping eliqiao | 12:46 |
| wanghao | eliqiao: sorry for the long delay. It's a long time meeting 😞 | 12:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: Fixed redeclared CONF = cfg.CONF https://review.openstack.org/204082 | 13:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: Fixed typos in self parameter https://review.openstack.org/204083 | 13:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Shiina, Hironori proposed openstack/nova: Add a compute RPC API to inject an NMI https://review.openstack.org/202605 | 13:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tiago Mello proposed openstack/nova: PowerKVM defaults video to 'vga' not 'qxl' https://review.openstack.org/203809 | 13:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: Compute: enable admin to decide action for conflicting states https://review.openstack.org/190047 | 13:43 |
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| anteaya | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-midcycle | 13:52 |
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| * bauzas is ready for trying to remotely attend the midcycle | 13:54 | |
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| bauzas | no mic/cam for helping with the bandwidth :) | 13:54 |
| dansmith | bauzas: we're still getting connected | 13:54 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy will join the hangout | 13:55 |
| bauzas | dansmith: cool thanks ! | 13:55 |
| ildikov | Hi! | 13:56 |
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| ildikov | Do you guys plan any review activity during these three days? | 13:56 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: cutting my mic for helping with the bandwidth :) | 13:57 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: excellent sound | 13:58 |
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| bauzas | seems like I have to shave my bear :) | 13:59 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: you have a bear? | 14:01 |
| bauzas | oh man | 14:01 |
| * bauzas would enjoy to have a bear :) | 14:02 | |
| bauzas | s/bear/beard | 14:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Fix test_security_groups to use Instance object properly https://review.openstack.org/198765 | 14:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Refactor test_servers to use instance objects https://review.openstack.org/197770 | 14:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Remove legacy flavor compatibility code from Instance https://review.openstack.org/197771 | 14:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Fix Instance object usage in test_extended_ips tests https://review.openstack.org/198767 | 14:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Fix test_extended_server_attributes for proper Instance object usage https://review.openstack.org/198766 | 14:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Decouple instance object tests from the api fakes module https://review.openstack.org/197769 | 14:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Shiina, Hironori proposed openstack/nova: Add a Nova API to inject an NMI https://review.openstack.org/202617 | 14:09 |
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| dane-fichter | mikal: My patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203784/ is getting stuck on your unit tests from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18743/ . I think it's because my patch basically blocks the mounting of a volume and perhaps isn't throwing the right type of exception? | 14:10 |
| dane-fichter | mikal: Do I need to include some mount error details in my exception? | 14:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Switch to oslo.reports https://review.openstack.org/198484 | 14:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Specify current directory during processutils.execute using new cwd param https://review.openstack.org/191604 | 14:16 |
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| bauzas | alaski: separate connection strings for cells v2, but can be pointing to the same physical DB ? | 14:17 |
| alaski | bauzas: yes | 14:17 |
| bauzas | alaski: so, just a ReleaseNotes | 14:18 |
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| bauzas | managed by context I thought we agreed ? | 14:18 |
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| bauzas | alaski: do we really need 2 logical DBs, or can we just have one logical DB having 2 sets of tables ? | 14:21 |
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| bauzas | having 2 connection strings of course | 14:21 |
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| alaski | bauzas: there's likely to be overlap in tables between the two dbs, at least during migrations | 14:21 |
| bauzas | alaski: prefixing couldn't it be the ugly but quick solution ? :) | 14:22 |
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| alaski | bauzas: sure, but that's essentially what a second db does | 14:22 |
| bauzas | anyway, I leave you discussing :) | 14:22 |
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| dims_ | dansmith: please -A/-2 this one - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198065/ | 14:26 |
| dansmith | dims_: done | 14:27 |
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| dims_ | thanks! | 14:27 |
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| dane-fichter | garyk: thanks for the review | 14:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Feodor Tersin proposed openstack/nova: Fix evaluation of host disk usage by volume-backed instances https://review.openstack.org/200870 | 14:33 |
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| garyk | dane-fichter: np. hope that it was not too much nit picking | 14:34 |
| garyk | dane-fichter: not sure if the unit test that failed was a result of your changes - that should be investigated | 14:34 |
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| dane-fichter | garyk: Yeah I'm having some difficulty reproducing the failure locally | 14:35 |
| garyk | ok. understood | 14:35 |
| bauzas | alaski: discussing about the "API conductor", right ? | 14:35 |
| anteaya | yes | 14:35 |
| anteaya | oh sorry not sure | 14:35 |
| alaski | yes | 14:36 |
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| jordanP | hi. The XenCI voted -1 on my patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192736 for the 3rd time in a row, each time for a different reason, each time for something not related to my patch | 14:37 |
| jordanP | I'd like to cry and whine :) | 14:37 |
| dane-fichter | garyk: I'm confused by your second comment on driver.py. | 14:37 |
| annegentle | jordanP: darn those bots | 14:37 |
| jordanP | annegentle, exaclty ! | 14:38 |
| annegentle | :) | 14:38 |
| anteaya | BobBall: jordanP needs to hear from you | 14:38 |
| annegentle | I have a devstack question related to nova 2.1 api in order to triage this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-site/+bug/1475464 | 14:38 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1475464 in openstack-api-site "Nova:The site missing get servers api related info" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Duncan.C (duncan-c) | 14:38 |
| annegentle | Root question: Can you call a 2.1 endpoint without a tenant ID? | 14:38 |
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| dane-fichter | garyk: are you saying I should break each part of the conditional into a nested if? | 14:39 |
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| annegentle | by endpoint I might mean resource | 14:39 |
| garyk | dane-fichter: sec | 14:39 |
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| garyk | dane-fichter: which comment - there were 3 | 14:39 |
| anteaya | BobBall: looks like a volume timeout issue: Volume 25fdce94-8663-4b40-8562-e134b17b74c1 failed to reach in-use status (current available) within the required time | 14:39 |
| mriedem | anteaya: BobBall: that's the ceph gate blocker | 14:40 |
| mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1476416 | 14:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1476416 in Cinder "backup.api:import_record sets volume_id to '0000-0000-0000-0000'" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Ivan Kolodyazhny (e0ne) | 14:40 |
| garyk | dane-fichter: firs - no need for the brackets | 14:40 |
| garyk | dane-fichter: second - should be if ( instead of if( | 14:40 |
| dane-fichter | garyk: the second one. it says simply if('connection_info' | 14:40 |
| garyk | it is missing a space :) | 14:40 |
| dane-fichter | garyk: ohhhh thanks | 14:40 |
| annegentle | sdague or alex_xu ping for any ideas on 2.1 resource, does it not need tenant_id? Would love help with https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-site/+bug/1475464 | 14:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1475464 in openstack-api-site "Nova:The site missing get servers api related info" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Duncan.C (duncan-c) | 14:41 |
| anteaya | mriedem: thanks | 14:41 |
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| anteaya | currently the patch has a -1 from sdague https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203845/1 | 14:42 |
| dane-fichter | garyk: and in the third one you are asking for me to put the instance in the log message right? | 14:42 |
| dansmith | mriedem: this has 2 +2s (one from you) .. can you +W this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202124/ | 14:42 |
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| garyk | dane-fichter: yup. that enables us to filter all log messages with the instance | 14:43 |
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| garyk | dansmith: was that code ever called? | 14:43 |
| dane-fichter | garyk: ok. will do. thanks. | 14:43 |
| garyk | i recall that nikola posted the same patch but did not find that the code was called | 14:43 |
| mriedem | dansmith: done | 14:44 |
| nagyz | is there a way to access connection_info if I only have a connection? I wanna check if it's an encrypted volume and I've looked around the code but not sure how I turn it around | 14:44 |
| dansmith | mriedem: thanks | 14:44 |
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| BobBall | mriedem jordanP: Don't think it's the ceph gate blocker | 14:44 |
| garyk | mriedem: was that code every called? | 14:44 |
| dansmith | garyk: yeah, sometime in the past | 14:44 |
| dansmith | garyk: not for a while, but it breaks our RPC api, so we need to keep it until we bump | 14:44 |
| BobBall | But we have just deployed some changes to fix one of the races we had - so I'd hope that a recheck works | 14:44 |
| garyk | yeah, but maybe even before objects so why is the change necessary | 14:44 |
| garyk | ok. | 14:44 |
| dansmith | garyk: the object exposed it | 14:44 |
| BobBall | jordanP: I suspect you were just very unlucky - if you look at http://zuul.openstack.xenproject.org/scoreboard/ you'll see that the vast majority of xen checks are passing | 14:45 |
| BobBall | jordanP: I've requeued your change for you though - so I hoep this will pass. | 14:45 |
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| jordanP | BobBall, thanks. i am crossing fingers then :) | 14:46 |
| anteaya | BobBall jordanP thank you | 14:46 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: make unit tests concise by setup guest object https://review.openstack.org/190963 | 14:46 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce method to wait for block device job https://review.openstack.org/190214 | 14:46 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: make host return guest information https://review.openstack.org/191046 | 14:46 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: make host return power state of guest https://review.openstack.org/191047 | 14:46 |
| BobBall | anteaya: FYI I had 'xen' on highlight so will see if anyone asks questions about the CI. | 14:46 |
| dansmith | mikal: sounds fine to me | 14:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Nicolas Simonds proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Split out resize_image logic from create_image https://review.openstack.org/187857 | 14:47 |
| anteaya | BobBall: awesome | 14:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nicolas Simonds proposed openstack/nova: Fix/implement revert-resize for RBD-backed images https://review.openstack.org/187395 | 14:47 |
| dane-fichter | nagyz: do you have a block_device_mapping ? | 14:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Nicolas Simonds proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Make the guest console configurable https://review.openstack.org/122523 | 14:48 |
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| rodrigods | is there an etherpad with the topics to be discussed in the midcycle? we are interested in being part of nested quotas discussions | 14:54 |
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| anteaya | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-midcycle | 14:54 |
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| rodrigods | anteaya, thx | 14:56 |
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| anteaya | welcome | 14:56 |
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| nagyz | dane-fichter, I'm looking at how to change/add a new LibvirtVolumeDriver that inherits from LibvirtBaseVolumeDriver | 15:01 |
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| nagyz | dane-fichter, the main issue at this time seems to be that I need to set is_block_dev in the ctor | 15:01 |
| nagyz | dane-fichter, and that's a True for encrypted rbd volumes but a False for non-encrypted ones... | 15:01 |
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| dane-fichter | nagyz: so you need to check whether there's encryption - why wouldn't you have access to the connection_info object? | 15:03 |
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| dane-fichter | nagyz: do you know the path to the disk? If so, you can check whether the disk in encrypted with dmcrypt. | 15:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenguo Niu proposed openstack/nova: Not count available resources of deployed ironic node https://review.openstack.org/204088 | 15:07 |
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| bauzas | alaski: you should shout that out in the ML | 15:08 |
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| bauzas | alaski: some people like me could help you | 15:08 |
| bauzas | (re: the Tasks stuff) | 15:09 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: alaski: why not try to team up some people trying to help with Tasks and see how those guys can discuss to provide some specs ? | 15:12 |
| bauzas | post-L3 seems a good period for discussing before Tokyo and agreeing at Tokyo | 15:13 |
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| alaski | bauzas: in my experience people looking to work on tasks have been focused on specific use cases, but we need some general specs to provide a framework before that work begins | 15:18 |
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| bauzas | alaski: that's why I think we need to see who can help | 15:19 |
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| bauzas | alaski: so we can discuss on the design phase before those guys want just to add some RFEs | 15:19 |
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| alaski | I would like to at least write down the results of previous discussions and design before soliciting further specs | 15:20 |
| bauzas | alaski: fair enough, but I think discussing on post-L3 is definitely better than waiting for the summit | 15:21 |
| bauzas | I'll have more time for helping, and I guess lots of people will have too | 15:21 |
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| nagyz | dane-fichter, this is all before the encryptors kick in | 15:21 |
| nagyz | dane-fichter, there is no block device. that's literally the job of the libvirt volume driver to take care of that, right? :-) | 15:22 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add cpu schedular priority config https://review.openstack.org/197567 | 15:22 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: rework membacking config to support future features https://review.openstack.org/197566 | 15:22 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: virt: add contraint to handle realtime policy https://review.openstack.org/197568 | 15:22 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add realtime support https://review.openstack.org/197569 | 15:22 |
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| dane-fichter | nagyz: yeah I think so. | 15:23 |
| dane-fichter | nagyz: besides the connection_info object and checking the vol id or disk path with the encryptors i don't know of any way to check whether it's encrypted | 15:25 |
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| nagyz | dane-fichter, the main problem is | 15:28 |
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| nagyz | dane-fichter, that in the ctor I have only the connection object not the connection_info... also not sure how strict is the checking on is_blockdev: what happens if I flip it during attach_volume where I actually see if it's a block device? | 15:29 |
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| dane-fichter | nagyz: I have no clue. you could just sketch out an implementation and try the unit tests to see if it messes things up or not. | 15:34 |
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| dane-fichter | nagyz: I'd guess that it would mess things up on second thought. There are different attach/detach methods for encrypted v. unencrypted volumes | 15:35 |
| nagyz | dane-fichter, no, they are the same - I have the ceph encryption code already implemented and currently testing it. what I see is that the libvirt driver has an attach_volume() call and then the encryptor gets the attach_volume() call | 15:36 |
| nagyz | so they go via the same libvirt driver | 15:36 |
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| dane-fichter | nagyz: so you'd flip the is_block_dev flag during the attach_volume() call? | 15:37 |
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| nagyz | either there or during get_config | 15:40 |
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| nagyz | I'll run through the tests to see if it breaks anything :) | 15:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | dane-fichter proposed openstack/nova: Bug fix for booting from encrypted volumes. https://review.openstack.org/203784 | 15:44 |
| kodoku | Hi | 15:45 |
| nagyz | so why exactly booting from such a volume is not supported? | 15:45 |
| kodoku | I love upgrade to kilo | 15:45 |
| kodoku | nova destroy all my vm >< | 15:46 |
| nagyz | doesn't seem like a reasonable thing to actually deny. | 15:46 |
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| nagyz | kodoku, I've upgraded from Icehouse to Juno to Kilo without loosing any of our ~1k VMs | 15:46 |
| dims_ | slidedeck from adam during keystone mid-cycle - https://github.com/admiyo/keystone-rbac-presentation/blob/master/risk-assessment.pdf | 15:47 |
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| kodoku_ | nagyz I use Vmware backend, And after start nova, I see in log destroy instance 1, instance 2 instance 3 ..... | 15:47 |
| kodoku_ | I stop nova but lost 16 instnances | 15:47 |
| nagyz | well ok I don't know anything about vmware backend there, sorry | 15:48 |
| bauzas | any spec we could look at for Keystone policy stuff ? | 15:48 |
| bauzas | dims_: ^ | 15:48 |
| bauzas | dims_: is that related ? | 15:48 |
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| jroll | bauzas: yes | 15:50 |
| bauzas | jroll: thanks, just hearing dims_ now :) | 15:50 |
| jroll | :) | 15:51 |
| melwitt | annegentle: I think the documentation for nova api v2.1 is wrong, there should be tenant_id in the url. I think that documentation was formerly the doc for v3 which had removed tenant_id, but v3 was abandoned and v2.1 replaced it | 15:54 |
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| bauzas | mmmm, "Fetch policy from Keystone", I guess it's cached ? :) | 15:55 |
| tonyb | bauzas: sure, and I'd expect keystone to get it from "us" first | 15:56 |
| tonyb | bauzas: but then there is double caching which is just gross | 15:56 |
| bauzas | totally... | 15:56 |
| * bauzas is trying to not think about IAM :p | 15:57 | |
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| tonyb | IAM? | 15:57 |
| nagyz | identity and access management, perhaps | 15:58 |
| tonyb | bauzas: so can you hear the discussion well? | 15:58 |
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| tonyb | nagyz: ok could be | 15:58 |
| bauzas | tonyb: quite good yeah | 15:58 |
| tonyb | cool | 15:58 |
| bauzas | tonyb: some people are a bit far, so that's a bit more difficult, but the most of yours are quite close to johnthetubaguy | 15:58 |
| tonyb | Yeah Sean and Anita are quite a distance | 15:59 |
| bauzas | tonyb: for the moment, the remote attempt from johnthetubaguy is successful from my POV | 15:59 |
| tonyb | bauzas: cool. | 15:59 |
| bauzas | hopefully, I know most of the people's voices | 15:59 |
| tonyb | bauzas: let me know if that changes. | 15:59 |
| edleafe | bauzas: I'm far away, but you probably didn't want to hear me anyway. :) | 15:59 |
| bauzas | edleafe: naaaaaaaah | 15:59 |
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| tonyb | bauzas: If you need to know who's talking poke me (or edleafe ;P) | 16:00 |
| bauzas | edleafe: you know, that's not because we have arguments that I don't want to listen about you :) | 16:00 |
| edleafe | bauzas: :) | 16:00 |
| bauzas | edleafe: I know I'm French so I'm rude but that's not a reason for not being polite :p | 16:01 |
| bauzas | garyk: cut your mic please | 16:01 |
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| bauzas | oh man, someone just dropped the quality by leaving his mic in | 16:02 |
| edleafe | bauzas: I'm from New York. The French are amateurs when it comes to rudeness :) | 16:02 |
| garyk | bauzas: i am on mute | 16:02 |
| bauzas | garyk: I had to put you on mute - seems Google Hangout was accepting that | 16:03 |
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| garyk | finally you managed to shut me up :) | 16:03 |
| bauzas | LOL | 16:03 |
| edleafe | garyk: hehe | 16:04 |
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| bauzas | if someone who not knows me looks at the backlog ^, he could think I'm a dictator :p | 16:04 |
| tonyb | bauzas: ;P | 16:04 |
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| dims_ | http://markmail.org/message/objf6ht572b5fnza | 16:09 |
| dims_ | tonyb: ^^ | 16:10 |
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| tonyb | dims_: Thanks. | 16:10 |
| tonyb | dims_: also that was quick ;P | 16:10 |
| dims_ | :) | 16:10 |
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| mgoddard | hi all, I'd really appreciate some comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194597/ | 16:21 |
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| ildikov | sdague: Hi! If you have some time please check my updates on this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147514/42 | 16:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Simona Iuliana Toader proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: restart serial console workers after instance power change https://review.openstack.org/163080 | 16:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Simona Iuliana Toader proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: Enable Hyper-V Host Maintenance https://review.openstack.org/204157 | 16:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Enable python34 tests for nova/tests/unit/scheduler/test*.py https://review.openstack.org/187968 | 16:41 |
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| lxsli | ctrath: where's that patch please? | 16:43 |
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| dane-fichter | nagyz: sorry, my connection cut out for a bit there. basically the rationale behind this is that booting from encrypted volumes provides little/no security benefit with 3-part images because Nova just streams the image to a file cache in the clear and boots from there | 16:45 |
| lxsli | found it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203751/ | 16:45 |
| ctrath | lxsli: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203751/ | 16:46 |
| dane-fichter | nagyz: and it plain doesn't work with whole images. from the perspective of horizon everything appears to be fine, but the instance doesn't boot | 16:46 |
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| * jog0 waves to everyone at the midcycle | 16:52 | |
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| anteaya | jogo: hi! | 16:53 |
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| anteaya | jogo: we are about to look at johnthetubaguy: to find jogo's devref docs to see how that related to his work on: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/devref-refresh-liberty | 16:54 |
| lxsli | hi jogo | 16:54 |
| anteaya | on the etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-nova-liberty-summit-action-items | 16:54 |
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| lxsli | dansmith: was the API trace useful? I intended to go back through it making some higher-level conclusions from what's essentially raw data right now but I haven't so far | 16:54 |
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| dansmith | lxsli: i really haven't looked in a while, I should do that | 16:54 |
| dansmith | lxsli: sorry, I suck | 16:54 |
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| lxsli | dansmith: it gave me nightmares | 16:55 |
| dansmith | heh | 16:55 |
| jogo | anteaya: neat, glad to see our documentation getting better | 16:55 |
| anteaya | jogo: yay, do you have links to those docs? | 16:56 |
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| anteaya | jogo: or suggestions where to find them | 16:56 |
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| jogo | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/ | 16:58 |
| jogo | all my pending patches landed for docs | 16:59 |
| anteaya | jogo: yay | 16:59 |
| anteaya | thank you | 16:59 |
| jogo | last I checked johnthetubaguy had a few patches to them that were in review | 16:59 |
| anteaya | jogo: ah cool | 16:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Medberry proposed openstack/nova: Update Filter Scheduler doc https://review.openstack.org/203214 | 17:05 |
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| dansmith | mriedem_: something is spiking now? | 17:07 |
| dansmith | mriedem: http://goo.gl/WBjhGT | 17:07 |
| bauzas | enjoy the food, folks | 17:08 |
| mriedem | dansmith: will look after food | 17:08 |
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| bauzas | back at 1am then ? | 17:08 |
| bauzas | oops 1pm | 17:08 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: FYI, I'll be back at 1.30pm | 17:19 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: mtreinish: it's this http://logs.openstack.org/28/204128/2/check/gate-grenade-dsvm/80607dc/logs/old/screen-n-api.txt.gz?level=TRACE#_2015-07-21_17_05_37_447 | 17:30 |
| mriedem | latest glanceclient came out last thursday so i don't think that'd be it | 17:31 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: here you go https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1476770 | 17:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1476770 in Glance "_translate_from_glance fails with "AttributeError: id" in grenade" [High,Confirmed] | 17:37 |
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| rmstar | hi guys. has anyone encountered a problem in Juno where it does not take the ram_allocation_ratio into consideration when scheduling an instance? | 17:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | dane-fichter proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Raise error when booting from encrypted volumes https://review.openstack.org/203784 | 17:53 |
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| jroll | mriedem: receptionist stepped away agin, mind letting me in? | 18:00 |
| jroll | again* | 18:00 |
| jroll | nvm | 18:00 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: jay's here or not yet ? | 18:00 |
| anteaya | bauzas: jay is here | 18:00 |
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| bauzas | anteaya: cool thanks | 18:01 |
| anteaya | welcome | 18:01 |
| bauzas | ty | 18:01 |
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| mriedem | jroll: you got in? | 18:01 |
| mriedem | they let you in?! | 18:01 |
| jroll | yes! | 18:01 |
| jroll | :P | 18:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova: cleanup NovaObjectDictCompat subclassing from pci_device https://review.openstack.org/200656 | 18:02 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: hey, are you working a fix for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188485/16? | 18:02 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: zactly | 18:03 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: I rebased it | 18:03 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: and I'm currently working on dansmith's comments | 18:03 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: k. | 18:03 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: hope to get it done by EOB today | 18:03 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: cool | 18:04 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: did you address/answer melwitt's comment on that patch? | 18:04 |
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| bauzas | mmm ? | 18:05 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: possibly missed that | 18:05 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: since it's just difficult to look at 22 patches :) | 18:05 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: on PS 14 | 18:05 |
| * bauzas checking | 18:05 | |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: it was a comment about the need for the populate_filter_properties() method to allow plugin filters to override and inject custom filter properties. | 18:06 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: ah | 18:06 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: well, the main problem with providing an object is that it creates some problems with out-of-tree filters | 18:07 |
| melwitt | bauzas, jaypipes: I didn't want to -1 over a question, but I so far I felt like this is inconsistent with past decisions to leave pluggable interfaces intact since we're not sure who is using them. that is, we would remove the interfaces if and when we make the thing non-pluggable in the future | 18:07 |
| bauzas | melwitt: jaypipes: but here the fields will be persisted by the ReqSpec object anyway :) | 18:07 |
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| bauzas | melwitt: oh no, the os_type won't be there | 18:08 |
| bauzas | melwitt: well, for out-of-tree filters, I think anyone can just add some properties (not fields) | 18:08 |
| melwitt | bauzas, jaypipes: I understand that but the purpose of that method is to let custom schedulers add their own keys to the filter props dict. are you saying they anyway won't be able to when ReqSpec object is added? | 18:09 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: correct | 18:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: objects: add hw_vif_multiqueue_enabled image property https://review.openstack.org/202168 | 18:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: enable virtio-net multiqueue https://review.openstack.org/128829 | 18:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: tests: change assertEqual args to expected, observed for VIF https://review.openstack.org/204190 | 18:09 |
| melwitt | bauzas: okay, so where is their hook to do that if not "populate_filter_properties"? that's what I was missing | 18:09 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: only changes happening with customers of that object | 18:09 |
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| bauzas | melwitt: that's for a NovaObject right ? so anyone can just add a property like RequestSpec.foo | 18:10 |
| dims_ | hey jaypipes! | 18:10 |
| bauzas | melwitt: of course, it won't be neither persisted nor passed over the wire | 18:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Sudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova: cleanup NovaObjectDictCompat from security_group_rule https://review.openstack.org/201282 | 18:10 |
| melwitt | bauzas: I mean the populate_filter_properties method they would override to modify the object. where can they do that if they can't override that method anymore? | 18:11 |
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| bauzas | melwitt: so you mean any customer Scheduler driver, right? | 18:14 |
| bauzas | customer/custom of course | 18:14 |
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| melwitt | bauzas: yes. they would derive from FilterScheduler and then override populate_filter_properties (is my limited understanding) | 18:15 |
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| bauzas | melwitt: in that case, a scheduler driver would possibly just have to override select_dest() and add anything he wants | 18:15 |
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| bauzas | melwitt: honestly, I try to leave room for out-of-tree filters but I think leaving that method is just bad IMHO | 18:16 |
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| melwitt | bauzas: filters run after select_dest I guess then? okay, I didn't understand why it's bad and was just trying to sanity check whether this is removing a useful pluggable interface for custom schedulers | 18:18 |
| bauzas | melwitt: so for example, I leave https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197912/9/nova/scheduler/filter_scheduler.py,cm L129 | 18:19 |
| bauzas | melwitt: which is one way to inject something | 18:19 |
| melwitt | bauzas: right. my concern was over where the custom scheduler gets access to that field to modify. the populate_filter_properties is a lightweight hook for that | 18:20 |
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| jroll | bauzas: we can't hear you | 18:21 |
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| edleafe | now we can hear bauzas. We just can't understand him :) | 18:28 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: I learned klingon 101 | 18:29 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: and then I learned French - pretty similar | 18:29 |
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| bauzas | melwitt: so back to our convo | 18:31 |
| bauzas | melwitt: here is the thing | 18:31 |
| bauzas | melwitt: A/ I'm fine leaving some room for out-of-tree, for both drivers and filters | 18:32 |
| jaypipes | dims_: hey dims! :) | 18:32 |
| bauzas | melwitt: B/ any NovaObject can be added some properties just like object.foo = 1 | 18:32 |
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| bauzas | melwitt: any driver can just inject those properties by many places | 18:33 |
| bauzas | melwitt: for example, running a filter which would inject new properties | 18:33 |
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| bauzas | melwitt: C/ keeping that populate_filter_properties method is non-sense for in-tree just because *zero* filters use thaty | 18:34 |
| bauzas | melwitt: so I defer the technical problem to any company which uses out-of-tree filters just because of http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/policies.html#out-of-tree-support | 18:35 |
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| bauzas | it's good to be nice, but it's bad to leave some useless stuff because of out-of-tree IMHO | 18:36 |
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| melwitt | bauzas: okay, that's what my main question was, where can they inject properties, if it's a filter, I understand that. that's better than having to override the entire select_destinations method. I understand also nothing is in-tree, I just thought this was inconsistent with our decision in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143285/ where we leave a thing because out-of-tree might be using it (and ironic is using). | 18:36 |
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| bauzas | melwitt: well, tbh, I think that any company who writes their own filters will just have bigger problems once we merge the Spec BP | 18:38 |
| c4tech | Hi team, we're looking at hardening the policy.json file for Nova. Does anyone have a link to some good documentation on policy.json? | 18:38 |
| bauzas | melwitt: just because it will break their filters - unless they explicitely use a decorator that I wrote | 18:38 |
| melwitt | bauzas: okay. thanks for explaining it | 18:39 |
| tonyb | c4tech: I don;t think such a thing exists | 18:39 |
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| bauzas | melwitt: see - I thought again about out-of-tree in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197912/9/nova/scheduler/filters/__init__.py,cm | 18:39 |
| melwitt | bauzas: I see | 18:40 |
| c4tech | <tonyb> Thanks! | 18:41 |
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| c4tech | Saved me a bunch of time! | 18:42 |
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| tonyb | c4tech: Cool. Sorry the answer wasn't a URL you could read. | 18:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova: docs: clear between current vs future plans https://review.openstack.org/192259 | 18:55 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: I know you're very well following the midcycle, but got a sec for discussing about the 2 field types you dislike ? (ie. CIDR and JSONString) | 18:56 |
| bauzas | dansmith: or lemme know when you're free | 18:56 |
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| bauzas | +1 for the checklist :) | 18:59 |
| bauzas | even, huuuuuuge +1 | 18:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Rossiter proposed openstack/nova: Change List objects to use obj_relationships https://review.openstack.org/198730 | 19:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova: Add support for one time tokens in consoleauth https://review.openstack.org/182129 | 19:11 |
| bauzas | ergh, that's where a remote attending for a midcycle hits the limits | 19:11 |
| bauzas | because you want to discuss synchronously and you can't | 19:11 |
| bauzas | so I defer to jaypipes and dansmith :) | 19:12 |
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| tonyb | mikal: Awww thanks. | 19:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Giridhar Jayavelu proposed openstack/nova: Configure memory resource allocation during instance resize operation https://review.openstack.org/204219 | 19:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Giridhar Jayavelu proposed openstack/nova: Configure disk resource allocation during instance resize operation https://review.openstack.org/204220 | 19:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Giridhar Jayavelu proposed openstack/nova: Configure vif resource allocation during instance resize operation https://review.openstack.org/204221 | 19:21 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: don't you think your resource-objects BP would help jroll's problem ? | 19:22 |
| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed openstack/nova: Fixup uses of mock in hyperv tests https://review.openstack.org/204222 | 19:22 |
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| nagyz | dane-fichter, wouldn't a solution be better where normal 1-part images are still allowed? | 19:30 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: nah, it's a bit of a different architectural issue. | 19:30 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: okay, I was direct, nvm | 19:31 |
| dane-fichter | nagyz: The 1-part images fail to boot | 19:31 |
| lifeless | jroll: I'm worried aout cache false-hits with a cross-request cache | 19:32 |
| lifeless | jroll: but the room has moved on | 19:32 |
| lifeless | jroll: I'd really consider not-caching outside ofthe context of a single request to nova-compute | 19:32 |
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| jroll | lifeless: that's a good point, but as the instance id is returned it's easy to verify | 19:37 |
| jroll | lifeless: I'll think about it more | 19:37 |
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| lifeless | jroll: yes, validate may well be a good strategy | 19:39 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: so, like I said in the reviews, I'm fine with backporting to an Integer any CIDR - but I have a concern for JSONString here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203597/2 | 19:42 |
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| dansmith | bauzas: okay I'll look, but I'm really really not in favor of doing that | 19:43 |
| dansmith | but ... i'll look | 19:43 |
| dane-fichter | nagyz: here's the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1465656 | 19:43 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1465656 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Booting encrypted volume with whole image fails" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Dane Fichter (dane-fichter) | 19:43 |
| bauzas | dansmith: that's fair, like I said, I can abandon the change | 19:44 |
| dansmith | okay, I hadn't seen a response on that one, so you must've replied recently? | 19:44 |
| bauzas | dansmith: but I would then put a big fat comment explaining why I leave a free-form string for the "query" field | 19:44 |
| bauzas | dansmith: yup, check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203597/2 's commetns | 19:45 |
| dansmith | okay | 19:45 |
| bauzas | dansmith: again, I can leave a string - a big fat comment would then be needed | 19:45 |
| bauzas | dansmith: I understand your point for not accepting any JSONString, that creates a vector for not using directly any DictOfSomething | 19:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maxim Nestratov proposed openstack/nova: Fix deleting instance with attached volume https://review.openstack.org/204231 | 19:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nicolas Simonds proposed openstack/nova: Use utf8_bin collation on the flavor extra-specs table in MySQL https://review.openstack.org/190300 | 20:03 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: still on break ? :) | 20:11 |
| tonyb | bauzas: .... and we're back | 20:12 |
| bauzas | tonyb: coolio, just waiting to see you again ;) | 20:12 |
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| tonyb | bauzas: cool, I didn't relaise that johnthetubaguy had killed the hangout | 20:13 |
| bauzas | tonyb: johnthetubaguy: np | 20:13 |
| bauzas | I mean, this is really cool to be in the meetup even if I wasn't accepted :) | 20:14 |
| dims_ | dansmith: fyi https://github.com/rabbitmq/rabbitmq-clusterer https://github.com/rabbitmq/rabbitmq-website/issues/6 | 20:14 |
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| dansmith | dims_: cool thanks | 20:18 |
| melwitt | tonyb, johnthetubaguy: the hangout auto-died because laptop went to sleep | 20:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Anthony Lee proposed openstack/nova: Fix live-migrations usage of the wrong connector information https://review.openstack.org/202770 | 20:19 |
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| tonyb | melwitt: Ahh okay. | 20:19 |
| bauzas | melwitt: ack, again no worries | 20:20 |
| bauzas | melwitt: that's already really excellent to follow the meetup | 20:20 |
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| bauzas | discussing about Virtuozzo's configdrive implementation IIUC? | 20:21 |
| bauzas | if so, which spec are we talking about ? missed the point in the etherpad | 20:21 |
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| lmtaylor1 | Just wondering...when using the create server API, how would you specify host aggregate in the request body? Is there a specific parameter? | 20:24 |
| melwitt | bauzas: I think it might be this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149253/ | 20:24 |
| bauzas | lmtaylor1: you don't, aggregates are implicit | 20:25 |
| bauzas | melwitt: sweet, thanks | 20:25 |
| * bauzas is owing a lot of beers/cheese for many people | 20:25 | |
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| melwitt | haha | 20:26 |
| bauzas | lmtaylor1: meaning an user - even an admin - can't explicitely mention which aggregate he wants to be in - that's the main difference between aggs and AZs | 20:26 |
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| bauzas | lmtaylor1: so you map an aggregate using flavors or images or whatever else | 20:27 |
| lmtaylor1 | bauzas: interesting, makes sense | 20:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Remove unnecessary oslo namespace import checks https://review.openstack.org/204256 | 20:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova: Revert "Add config drive support for Virtuozzo containers" https://review.openstack.org/204259 | 20:44 |
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| bauzas | evacuate is called rebuild on the conductor side, btw. | 20:48 |
| bauzas | :p | 20:48 |
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| bauzas | that's the main difference between a cold migrate and a rebuild - the latter is when the host is down :) | 20:56 |
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| lxsli | jaypipes: given scheduler will never be a separate service, maaybe one day it'll be a library, does it need an API endpoint? Shouldn't it instead help Nova add its methods to the Nova API? | 21:00 |
| lxsli | looking at etherpad YVR-nova-liberty-summit-action-items line 25 | 21:00 |
| bauzas | lxsli: s/never/perhaps | 21:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova: Revert "Add config drive support for Virtuozzo containers" https://review.openstack.org/204259 | 21:01 |
| bauzas | lxsli: s/library/repository | 21:01 |
| jaypipes | lxsli: I absolutely feel the scheduler should be its own separate service eventually. and to get there, it needs a versioned RESTful API, IMHO. | 21:01 |
| lxsli | bauzas: no :p | 21:01 |
| lifeless | lxsli: it won't be a service now? >>> | 21:01 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: hell yeah | 21:01 |
| lxsli | bauzas: edleafe reminded me about the client lib problem that give syou | 21:01 |
| lifeless | lxsli: or is this #openstack-trolling... | 21:01 |
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| bauzas | lxsli: the client lib ? | 21:02 |
| * jaypipes notes lxsli is sitting behind him, and therefore objects may be thrown without him knowing.. | 21:02 | |
| bauzas | lxsli: there is a huge difference between releasing a client library and a scheduler library :p | 21:02 |
| lxsli | bauzas: as you need scheduler-client-lib to get resource object classes, then you need a nova-client-lib to get Nova's concrete impls of those | 21:02 |
| bauzas | lxsli: and I just wonder what a library having its own RPC manager would look like... | 21:02 |
| lxsli | both at the right version | 21:02 |
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| bauzas | lxsli: I think we severely are misunderstanding | 21:03 |
| lxsli | edleafe: halp | 21:03 |
| bauzas | lxsli: are you talking about a client lib ? | 21:03 |
| bauzas | lxsli: or are you saying that the scheduler should be packaged as a lib ? | 21:03 |
| edleafe | lxsli: bauzas: the problem was the scheduler having to know everything about the stuff being scheduled | 21:04 |
| lxsli | to me a client lib is a way to export some interfaces/classes to another project | 21:04 |
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| bauzas | lxsli: quoting you "(23:00:21) lxsli: jaypipes: given scheduler will never be a separate service, maaybe one day it'll be a library, does i" | 21:04 |
| lxsli | making scheduler a peer service with Nova means you both need to exchange client libs, which is horrible | 21:04 |
| lxsli | yes so a library is different to a client library | 21:04 |
| bauzas | lxsli: so you were talking about ? | 21:05 |
| * bauzas still confused | 21:05 | |
| lxsli | a client library is a special case | 21:05 |
| bauzas | lxsli: that's fundamentally different | 21:05 |
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| bauzas | lxsli: so I guess you're talking about a possible client library for accessing the Scheduler API, right? | 21:05 |
| edleafe | lxsli: so it would be used like 'import schedulerlib; sched = schedulerlib.Scheduler(); sched.allocate_my_resources()' | 21:05 |
| bauzas | lxsli: given we don't yet know if the Scheduler API could be a REST API or a simple MQ API ? | 21:06 |
| lxsli | so by making Scheduler a library (a bit like EG oslo.concurrency) we can give it a separate repo and scale the team, but it still gets linked into the same Python process as Nova, so class sharing isn't a problem | 21:06 |
| bauzas | lxsli: anyway, there I see that we need to describe resource types and propose them | 21:06 |
| jaypipes | lxsli: the reason I would prefer client lib to client lib communication is because without that, each component is dependent on the implementation of the other service. | 21:06 |
| lxsli | edleafe: yes | 21:06 |
| bauzas | lxsli: I think you're overthinking | 21:06 |
| edleafe | lxsli: each service needing the scheduler would define its own resource classes and comparisons | 21:07 |
| bauzas | that I agree violently | 21:07 |
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| lxsli | bauzas: edleafe agrees with me and I thought you agreed with him, so bit surprised we're arguing | 21:07 |
| bauzas | edleafe: see, I'm not always disagreeing ? :) | 21:07 |
| edleafe | lxsli: the actual scheduler code wouldn't have to know anything about the things it is scheduling | 21:08 |
| jaypipes | lxsli: an example of this would be if, for instance, nova wrote directly to Cassandra, instead of calling a scheduler API. that means the scheduler must then read directly from Cassandra. .And you've just coupled the impementaton of separate services together. | 21:08 |
| edleafe | bauzas: that's because it's late for you and you're tired. :) | 21:08 |
| bauzas | edleafe: 5 coffees in a row, I'm perfectly fine :p | 21:08 |
| lxsli | edleafe: it does a little bit if we merge jay's resource objects work which includes custom comparison for some types of resources | 21:08 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: :) | 21:08 |
| lifeless | dansmith: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1391196 | 21:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1391196 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Cannot detach root volume from instance (to attach a different volume)" [Undecided,Won't fix] | 21:09 |
| edleafe | lxsli: not at all | 21:09 |
| edleafe | lxsli: the resource and comparisons would be in the code where they are defined | 21:09 |
| lxsli | edleafe: so although it would never refer to the concrete types, it has to have the impl class loaded to use the custom comparisons | 21:09 |
| edleafe | lxsli: the scheduler lib would only manipulate the objects according to their standard interface | 21:10 |
| lifeless | dansmith: I was sure there were others, just trying to find them again | 21:10 |
| lxsli | maybe edleafe and I should duff each other up with a whiteboard then come back here :p | 21:10 |
| lifeless | dansmith: 1279300 was teh one where we disagble | 21:10 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: we'll discuss the above in the morning. | 21:14 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: ack | 21:14 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: that's not really late for me, 11pm now | 21:15 |
| bauzas | pretty cool timezone | 21:15 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: I need you sharp :) | 21:31 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: ? | 21:31 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: sharp == alert | 21:32 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: about what? the time difference ? | 21:32 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: no, about the scheduler | 21:32 |
| edleafe | bauzas: you agree too much when it's late in the day :) | 21:33 |
| bauzas | oh that :) | 21:33 |
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| jaypipes | hehe | 21:34 |
| bauzas | so, I have some opinions about that - and it will not change tomorrow :) | 21:34 |
| bauzas | we need to have a taxonomy of what's acceptable, and that's it | 21:34 |
| edleafe | bauzas: we all do | 21:34 |
| bauzas | the libosinfo discussion is also kinda good to hear too for me | 21:34 |
| bauzas | while I'm not working on the driver, you can easily imagine why :) | 21:35 |
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| lxsli | signing off, see y'all tomorrow | 21:47 |
| mriedem | lxsli: you are the most southern fried british person i know | 21:50 |
| bauzas | lxsli: see, French people are stronger than English weak ones | 21:51 |
| bauzas | :p | 21:51 |
| bauzas | that's probably because I live in mountains | 21:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova: Allow config drives to be generated to a directory https://review.openstack.org/204274 | 21:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova: Build config drives as directories for PCS https://review.openstack.org/204275 | 21:51 |
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| Erming_ | Hi, how to remove or disable the 'nova' availability zone? or hosts in this default zone? | 21:57 |
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| bauzas | Erming_: by default, all services are part of this AZ | 22:02 |
| bauzas | Erming_: you can modify the default AZ in a conf opt | 22:02 |
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| alex_xu | annegent_: we have tenant_id in the URL for v2.1 API | 22:05 |
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| annegent_ | alex_xu: thanks for circling back, yep. I've updated/triaged the bug. Should be fairly easy to fix in the docs. | 22:08 |
| alex_xu | annegent_: cool | 22:09 |
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| Erming_ | Thanks bauzas, if I modify the conf , will it impact all the services? I just want to remove hosts from the nova zone | 22:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify Scheduler RPC API select_dests() https://review.openstack.org/199205 | 22:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Remove unnecessary method in FilterScheduler https://review.openstack.org/188485 | 22:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Create RequestSpec object https://review.openstack.org/145528 | 22:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Consider that all scheduler calls are IO Ops https://review.openstack.org/188486 | 22:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Use RequestSpec object in the FilterScheduler https://review.openstack.org/188487 | 22:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify left filters for RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/202678 | 22:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Prepare filters for using RequestSpec object https://review.openstack.org/197912 | 22:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify conductor to use RequestSpec object https://review.openstack.org/203078 | 22:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify metric-related filters for RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/202676 | 22:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Use RequestSpec in the ChanceScheduler https://review.openstack.org/199051 | 22:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify NUMA, PCI and num_instances filters for RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/202677 | 22:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify Aggregate filters for RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/202674 | 22:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify default filters for RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/202675 | 22:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add RequestSpec methods for primitiving into dicts https://review.openstack.org/187197 | 22:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify Affinity filter for RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/202673 | 22:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Use RequestSpec object in HostManager https://review.openstack.org/191251 | 22:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Use the same pci_requests field for all filters and HostManager https://review.openstack.org/191250 | 22:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add VersionPredicate type of field https://review.openstack.org/203594 | 22:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Brown proposed openstack/nova: VMware: update supported vsphere 6.0 os types https://review.openstack.org/181020 | 22:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Create RequestSpec object https://review.openstack.org/145528 | 22:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Consider that all scheduler calls are IO Ops https://review.openstack.org/188486 | 22:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Prepare filters for using RequestSpec object https://review.openstack.org/197912 | 22:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify conductor to use RequestSpec object https://review.openstack.org/203078 | 22:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify metric-related filters for RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/202676 | 22:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Use RequestSpec in the ChanceScheduler https://review.openstack.org/199051 | 22:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify NUMA, PCI and num_instances filters for RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/202677 | 22:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify Aggregate filters for RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/202674 | 22:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify default filters for RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/202675 | 22:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add RequestSpec methods for primitiving into dicts https://review.openstack.org/187197 | 22:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify Affinity filter for RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/202673 | 22:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Use RequestSpec object in HostManager https://review.openstack.org/191251 | 22:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Use the same pci_requests field for all filters and HostManager https://review.openstack.org/191250 | 22:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add VersionPredicate type of field https://review.openstack.org/203594 | 22:38 |
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