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| Piet | The UX team is still looking for folks that are willing to participant in a one hour interview. You should be currently using Nova-Network and chat about why/why not you're moving to Neutron | 01:03 |
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| Piet | Feel free to reach-out to me at pieter.c.kruithof-jr <@> hp.com | 01:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova: Server list filter with tenant_id implies all_tenants https://review.openstack.org/195412 | 05:24 |
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| park__heijlong | dansmith: are you around? | 05:27 |
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| jhesketh | johnthetubaguy: ping | 05:54 |
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| moshele | johnthetubaguy: hi | 08:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: Cells: add instance cell registration utility to nova-manage https://review.openstack.org/193889 | 08:30 |
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| garyk | danpb: can you please look at https://review.openstack.org/192675 it has one +2 and it will help unblock the BP. sorry to keep on bugging about this | 08:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: support limits via image meta data https://review.openstack.org/180942 | 08:56 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: store extra_specs object https://review.openstack.org/179061 | 08:56 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: add resource limits for disk https://review.openstack.org/179062 | 08:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rui Chen proposed openstack/nova-specs: Split network plane for live migration https://review.openstack.org/194990 | 09:06 |
| kashyap | Is it recommended to cleanup the existing .tox directory from the Nova git repo before running unit tests? | 09:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | jhesketh: I am about now, but I guess you may have gone? | 09:09 |
| jhesketh | johnthetubaguy: nope | 09:09 |
| jhesketh | johnthetubaguy: pm okay? | 09:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | jhesketh: ah, good good, how can I help? | 09:09 |
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| * kashyap does it anyhow, for good measure | 09:10 | |
| johnthetubaguy | kashyap: should be needed | 09:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | jhesketh: sure | 09:10 |
| kashyap | johnthetubaguy: "should be needed" meaning cleaning up .tox before running unit tests is recommended? | 09:11 |
| haypo | kashyap: FYI since pip 7, pip creates wheel packages on demand, so recreating a tox test env is much faster! | 09:11 |
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| haypo | kashyap: sometimes i use "rm -rf .tox" when i modify code in .tox/py{27,34}/lib/python{2.7,3.4}/site-packages/ for debug purpose. or when dependencies change | 09:12 |
| kashyap | haypo: I see. | 09:12 |
| haypo | kashyap: in the common case, there is no good reason to create tox | 09:12 |
| haypo | kashyap: (oh, and there is also "tox -r" option, maybe better than rm -rf .tox. last week i typed "rm -rf .git" by mistake, i lost one day of work...) | 09:13 |
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| kashyap | haypo: Thank you. I also came across this one - https://www.berrange.com/posts/2014/11/14/faster-rebuilds-for-python-virtualenv-trees/ | 09:13 |
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| kashyap | haypo: Ouch. "rm -rf .git", I thought `rm -rf` doesn't is not allowed any more by coreutils :-) | 09:15 |
| haypo | kashyap: yeah, before i also had a setup using devpi-server. but it required to compile explicitly wheel packages. pip 7 is better because it does that on demand, and it doesn't need a local server | 09:15 |
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| kashyap | haypo: I have this python-pip-1.5.6-3.fc21.noarch - not sure if it's "pip 7" or not. But, don't bother, I'll look up. | 09:19 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: add in vnic resource limitations https://review.openstack.org/180202 | 09:19 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: add support for cores per socket https://review.openstack.org/187942 | 09:19 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: support limits via image meta data https://review.openstack.org/180942 | 09:19 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: create common object for limits, reservations and shares https://review.openstack.org/179059 | 09:19 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Resource limits for memory https://review.openstack.org/179060 | 09:19 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: store extra_specs object https://review.openstack.org/179061 | 09:19 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: add resource limits for disk https://review.openstack.org/179062 | 09:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | kashyap: I missed a crucial bit | 09:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | kashyap: shouldn't be needed, but it can help get you unstuck if things go wrong | 09:20 |
| haypo | kashyap: pip 1.5 is pip 1.5, but not pip 7 :) | 09:20 |
| kashyap | johnthetubaguy: Yep, got it. Thanks. Was testing a upstream Kilo backport and trying to resolve some conflicts. | 09:21 |
| kashyap | haypo: Felt F21 shouldn't be _that_ far off and thought it's some kind of Fedora's own versioning mechansim for this. | 09:23 |
| haypo | kashyap: i'm using fedora 22 and i upgraded pip manually (pip install -U pip) | 09:24 |
| haypo | (which introduces new funny issues) | 09:24 |
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| moshele | sahid: hi | 09:28 |
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| tdurakov | danpb: hi Dan, i left question in comment for your patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183331/7 Could you answer it? | 09:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Moshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: mlnx_direct vif type removal https://review.openstack.org/181671 | 09:35 |
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| sahid | moshele: hello | 09:36 |
| shihanzhang | who can help review this patch #https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175742/ | 09:38 |
| moshele | sahid: what tests related ibvirt/test_vif.py did I missed in https://review.openstack.org/181671 ? | 09:38 |
| moshele | sahid: I removed the constant | 09:39 |
| danpb | tdurakov: i'm not the dan you are looking for | 09:39 |
| tdurakov | danpb, oh, sorry... my fault) | 09:40 |
| sahid | moshele: yep seems good | 09:40 |
| moshele | sahid: thanks | 09:40 |
| danpb | garyk: i added comments to it yesterday which you didn't respond to yet | 09:40 |
| tdurakov | dansmith, hi Dan, i left question in comment for your patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183331/7 Could you answer it? | 09:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | kashyap: ah, so switching to stable branches, I often switch out that directory, not sure if thats the best approach | 09:41 |
| garyk | danpb: i did not see. i will check now. | 09:41 |
| danpb | i didn't -1 it because it wasn't really a critisim - i just wanted some clarification on interpretation | 09:42 |
| moshele | johnthetubaguy: can this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179577/ be approved? | 09:42 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: hey, wondering if https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191914/ is not opening a can of worms for people wanting to get rid of the scheduler... | 09:43 |
| kashyap | johnthetubaguy: I just clunkily do a checkout foo/bar branch. | 09:43 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I honestly think we could have alternative drivers (that's fair to consider it) but I dislike about any big-bang | 09:43 |
| garyk | danpb: the limits are per disk/vif. i answered on gerrit | 09:44 |
| danpb | ok, cool | 09:44 |
| danpb | though unfortunately it means i'll also for a naming change, because those semantics do match libvirt in some cases | 09:45 |
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| danpb | s/also/ask/ | 09:45 |
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| garyk | ok, which ones? i have not found any that are a 1:1 match | 09:46 |
| danpb | i believe disk_io_limit matches disk_total_iops_sec | 09:46 |
| danpb | they both specify a limit on total io operations per sec IIUC | 09:46 |
| danpb | i have to double check the libvirt VIF bandwidth semantics - it is possible one of the libvirt settings matches vif_limit too - just not quite sure yet | 09:47 |
| garyk | yes, the disk io limit is one and the same. | 09:47 |
| garyk | it would add a few extra ifs to the code to parse that and not be able to use a generic parse for the names, but that is ok | 09:48 |
| danpb | before you change the spec, just give me a chance to double check the vif stuff too | 09:48 |
| garyk | ok | 09:48 |
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| garyk | i think that maybe it would be easier for an admin to maybe have the same contructs for the vmware limits for disks, cpu, memory and vifs. that could make their life easier and less error prone | 09:49 |
| garyk | having it as the same for all except the disk io limits could be confusing | 09:49 |
| garyk | can you please consider that | 09:50 |
| garyk | i understand that we would like generic and shared constructs but maybe here we should try and be consistent | 09:50 |
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| haypo | running nova tests (tox -e py27) fails in the subunit-trace command with an AttributeError in find_test_run_time_diff(): http://paste.openstack.org/show/320860/ -- does anyone know this bug? | 09:53 |
| bauzas | haypo: looking | 09:53 |
| garyk | danpb: i am also thinking about and admin creating a heat template where they could define the flavors. it would require some tweaking on their behalf for one item that does not fir the model | 09:53 |
| bauzas | haypo: ah, did you upgraded your venv ? | 09:53 |
| bauzas | haypo: nvm, I can see it created | 09:54 |
| haypo | bauzas: it's a fresh test env, see the second line: "py27 create: /home/haypo/prog/openstack/nova/.tox/py27" | 09:54 |
| bauzas | haypo: yup, see my last comment (nvm) | 09:55 |
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| bauzas | haypo: pip freeze | grep os_testr ? | 09:57 |
| bauzas | haypo: see https://github.com/openstack/os-testr/commit/de604832c3ece2aaeb56cc7a427dcb1dd833c0e1 which is not released yet | 09:58 |
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| haypo | bauzas: it's os-testr 0.1.0 (you can also see in the paste ;-)). there is no more recent version | 09:58 |
| haypo | bauzas: ah! | 09:59 |
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| bauzas | haypo: yeah I was lazy about the version checking :p | 09:59 |
| haypo | bauzas: np | 10:00 |
| haypo | bauzas: i will install the development version | 10:00 |
| bauzas | haypo: or give a try about that https://github.com/openstack/os-testr/blob/master/os_testr/subunit_trace.py#L34-L36 | 10:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: add in vnic resource limitations https://review.openstack.org/180202 | 10:07 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: add support for cores per socket https://review.openstack.org/187942 | 10:07 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: support limits via image meta data https://review.openstack.org/180942 | 10:07 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: create common object for limits, reservations and shares https://review.openstack.org/179059 | 10:07 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Resource limits for memory https://review.openstack.org/179060 | 10:07 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: store extra_specs object https://review.openstack.org/179061 | 10:07 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: add resource limits for disk https://review.openstack.org/179062 | 10:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/nova: Fix Python 3 issues in nova.db.sqlalchemy https://review.openstack.org/195191 | 10:09 |
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| haypo | sdague: FYI https://review.openstack.org/195191 is now ready to be reviewed | 10:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Abhijeet Malawade proposed openstack/nova: Test patch libvirt race condition (do not merge) https://review.openstack.org/191732 | 10:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Enable python34 tests for nova/tests/unit/objects/test*.py https://review.openstack.org/187785 | 10:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Petrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: Fixes delayed instance lifecycle events issue https://review.openstack.org/195180 | 10:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Ankit Agrawal proposed openstack/nova: Test patch libvirt race condition (do not merge) https://review.openstack.org/191732 | 10:41 |
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| dims | haypo: replied in the review. no worries. | 10:42 |
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| BobBall | johnthetubaguy / others: What's the expected behaviour of consoles with shut off servers? There is a tempest test that expects to be able to get the console, however XenAPI's implementation was written to explicitely remove consoles for VMs that were no longer running and so there is a race condition there... | 10:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: I don't know | 10:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: never really dug deep in console land | 10:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: whats the race you are seeing? | 10:48 |
| BobBall | I thought you wrote the script that deletes the logs? :P | 10:48 |
| BobBall | Just that if the cronjob happens after the server has been shutoff but before the tempest test reads it then there is no log for it to read and it fails :) | 10:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: oh you mean the console log? I thought you meant the VNC console. Thats never been tested or deployed, AFAIK | 10:49 |
| BobBall | It's tested by tempest | 10:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: yeah, that sounds broken | 10:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: it should be when the server is deleted that its removed | 10:50 |
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| BobBall | So the tempest test is bad - and probably libvirt driver either deletes after a race or incorrectly leaves them hanging about? | 10:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: but the problem is around the dom ids and reboots and information leakage | 10:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: tempest test sounds good, honestly | 10:51 |
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| BobBall | The tempest test checks if we can read the logs after the server has disappeared | 10:51 |
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| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: yep, seems like a good thing to check | 10:52 |
| haypo | dims: my https://review.openstack.org/195191 change works with the current oslo.db version | 10:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: well, is it just stopped, or deleted? | 10:53 |
| BobBall | SHUTOFF | 10:53 |
| dims | haypo: nice | 10:53 |
| BobBall | XenAPI removes all logs for guests that are not running | 10:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: right, you should be able to read it when the VM is shutoff, that seems reasonable | 10:53 |
| haypo | dims: i will write a new patch when a new version of oslo.db will be release, to replace remaining obj.iteritems() | 10:53 |
| dims | haypo: ++ | 10:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: right, because of the issue I mentioned above, its a bug | 10:53 |
| BobBall | Right - so your view is XenAPI bug. | 10:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: yes | 10:54 |
| BobBall | good | 10:54 |
| dims | haypo: should be early next week, though g-r update will take time | 10:54 |
| haypo | dims: i prefer to replace map() with list-comprehension because it will be less motivated to rework the code later if the code is already compatible with python 3 | 10:54 |
| haypo | dims: it's harder to argue for refactoring patches if they don't fix a test | 10:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: I think you are the first person to try and test that code, FWIW | 10:54 |
| dims | haypo: sure, if yours lands first, i'll rebase | 10:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: other than me just trying out the API with the CLI | 10:54 |
| dims | haypo: in the end, we need both patches as they target different tests | 10:55 |
| BobBall | \o/ (I did already post a replacement script BTW - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193647/ - to fix some races) | 10:55 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: cool | 10:55 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add in missing doc string for hypervisor_version https://review.openstack.org/195518 | 10:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: is that just me, or does that not work on older version of XenServer because it requires xl? | 10:56 |
| BobBall | xl has always been there I think | 10:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: I thought that was the new xen toolstack to replace xe | 10:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | (xen light?) | 10:57 |
| BobBall | to replace xm. xe is XAPI's CLI | 10:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: ah, yeah, thats right | 10:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: added in Xen 4.1 so should be Ok for most things: http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/XL | 10:58 |
| garyk | danpb: not sure if you saw the comments that i wrote above about the names being consistent. | 10:58 |
| BobBall | We've been 4.1+ since XS 6.0 | 10:58 |
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| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: right, but we should add that check in the code somewhere, to exclude 5.6 | 10:59 |
| BobBall | Was list_domains even in 5.6? | 10:59 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: no idea | 10:59 |
| ildikov | danpb: johnthetubaguy: could you please take a look on this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192755/ ? | 11:00 |
| ildikov | danpb: johnthetubaguy: I'm not sure whether the Liberty-1 deadline is applicable for this patch too, I would like to ask for some help to clarify | 11:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: the current deadline applies, its not a priority item, what the current deadline means is open to debate. | 11:03 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: this patch is an extension to an already merged blueprint to cover the API impacts which was unfortunately left out from the original one | 11:04 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: the corresponding code is already up for review and there is a -1 on it that highlighted this issue with the original spec | 11:05 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: ah, in which case, its probably not covered by the freeze, or at least its a great exception candidate | 11:05 |
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| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: if the deadline has to be applied to this extension too, will there be a freeze exception process? | 11:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: the exception process is documented on a wiki page I send to the ML a few times, here is the link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Liberty_Release_Schedule | 11:06 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: so I just pinged you to avoid the issue that we cannot merge the last patch for the feature because of this extension patch is not merged | 11:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: agreed, right now I have lots of specs that need urgent attention, so its just not something I can jump on right now | 11:07 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: sorry I'm a bit behind with mails :( | 11:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: me too | 11:08 |
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| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: if the freeze exception is the best way to follow with this, then I will do that or if we can agree on the patch has to be merged before the corresponding code but not until today, that's fine with me too | 11:09 |
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| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: enjoy :) | 11:11 |
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| sdague | danpb: is there an overall sketch (bp, spec, ml post, readme) on the big picture of what's going on with - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192627 and friends? Just so I can have a bit more context on where this is going to feel comfortable reviewing them. | 11:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Karim Boumedhel proposed openstack/nova: report an error for hw:numa_nodes=0 https://review.openstack.org/190267 | 11:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Adds Hyper-V vTPM devices spec https://review.openstack.org/195068 | 12:07 |
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| dims | johnthetubaguy: please unblock -2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180695/ as the spec (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105404/) has merged | 12:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | dims: spooky, I am just updating the blueprint now so I can remove that | 12:10 |
| dims | haha :) | 12:10 |
| dims | thanks | 12:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | dims: FWIW, I am not sure that needed a spec, but it has one now, so thats cool | 12:11 |
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| dims | johnthetubaguy: y, spec was already files, so i just adopted it | 12:22 |
| dims | s/files/filed/ | 12:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | dims: cool | 12:22 |
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| danpb | sdague: there's probably not any single doc describing it i'm afraid but i can explain quickly | 12:23 |
| danpb | sdague: the high level goal was to objectify our use of image metadata properties | 12:24 |
| danpb | sdague: so for that we've merged this new ImageMeta & ImageMetaProps object https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/image_meta.py | 12:24 |
| danpb | sdague: the patches that i have up in that series you point to https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:virtimageprops-17,n,z | 12:24 |
| danpb | sdague: are now doing the work to convert the codebase over to use the object instead of dict | 12:25 |
| danpb | sdague: i've first converted the nova/virt/hardware.py shared code, then i convert each virt driver and finally convert the compute manager | 12:25 |
| danpb | sdague: the first patch in the series is dealing with a bug i uncovered whereby we're storing truncated data in some fields of system_metadata | 12:26 |
| danpb | sdague: because it overflows the 255 byte limit in the column | 12:26 |
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| danpb | most of the patches are a fairly straightforward & tedious conversion from dict access to object access | 12:26 |
| sdague | yep, the patches all looked straight forward, I was just trying to get the big picture, because it was kind of looking through a soda straw | 12:27 |
| danpb | the first patch probably deserves close attention from several nova-cores, since there might be aspects that I'm not aware of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192627/ | 12:27 |
| sdague | yeh | 12:28 |
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| sdague | so... I left the comment in the libosinfo review (as a zero score), but it still seems weird to me to have python gobject -> c lib to get access to a bunch of xml data, which is what we want. I get that in C accessing XML is hard. But in python, it's built in to stdlib. Is there no way to just access the XML directly ourselves? | 12:30 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: danpb: I guess I see the data here: https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/libosinfo.git/tree/data but maybe its only released as a C lib, is that the issue here? | 12:34 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: yeh, and distros (at least debian) don't consider this like tzdata, which is something they have to keep reving | 12:35 |
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| sdague | https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libosinfo&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all | 12:35 |
| sdague | because, effectively, this is kind of like tzdata, something that you always want the latest version of | 12:35 |
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| danpb | sdague: the libosinfo library is not simply about providing a way to read the XML files | 12:37 |
| danpb | sdague: it is providing an higher level API to make logic decisions based on metadata in the XML | 12:38 |
| danpb | the fact that it uses XML underneath is really considered a private impl detail that apps should not care / know about | 12:38 |
| danpb | so from that POV, it would not be appropriate for Nova to just read the XML directly | 12:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Puneet proposed openstack/nova-specs: Implement Block Volume Quota per Instance https://review.openstack.org/195555 | 12:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: ah, so we do get some business logic that we use too, I overlooked that | 12:40 |
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| danpb | in the future the data may also come from sources which are not local XML files too | 12:41 |
| danpb | so we really don't want apps to be touching the XML directly at all | 12:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Kick tires for oslo.reports https://review.openstack.org/195558 | 12:43 |
| sdague | danpb: the business logic that is being consumed seems pretty minimal. I do get that this is the way libosinfo has chosen to structure itself, it's just pretty unfortunate, because the patch level of your host OS will now dictate which guest OSes you can support. | 12:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova-specs: Remove priority for Servicegroup API control plane spec https://review.openstack.org/195559 | 12:46 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: ^ I uploaded a spec change for removing the priority | 12:46 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: since you were +2 on the spec, I preferred to provide a dependent change | 12:47 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: yeah, I liked that being part of the priority list of things, as its an important refactor that impacts scheduler related things | 12:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: maybe I am missing something big here? | 12:48 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: well, I wanted to make sure that scheduler priority is about modifying the scheduler | 12:48 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I know this change is really important hence my +1 | 12:48 |
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| danpb | sdague: two things - as an admin you can provide new data files to augment those provided as standard | 12:49 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: but I also think that leaving some specs saying "eh, sched prio" would just be a placeholder for having one more milestone time | 12:49 |
| danpb | sdague: and there is an intention to extend the library so it can fetch refreshed data from upstream and cache it locally | 12:49 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: so given that, I'd prefer to see the discussion about that coming in the subteam meeting | 12:49 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: so the subteam could accept it as a prio or not | 12:49 |
| danpb | the ability to augment the database also allows organizations to provide information about any custom in-house operating systems they deal with | 12:50 |
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| sdague | danpb: library dynamically refreshing from upstream is pretty much a non starter, most of these environments are going to have firewalls to prevent that kind of thing | 12:50 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: tbc, I don't want to have the scheduler priority being a proxy for getting more time for implementing | 12:50 |
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| danpb | sdague: it would not be something that was unconditionally enabled by default | 12:51 |
| sdague | and it could be addressed if the libosinfo folks published their database as a release artifact with an standardized format, like tzdata. | 12:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: if the subteam isn't interested I am cool with that | 12:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: Split instance resize operation into 2 phases https://review.openstack.org/195088 | 12:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: Create class hierarchy for tasks in conductor https://review.openstack.org/184495 | 12:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: its certainly boarderline if it is accepted | 12:51 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: what I can be saying is that let's merge the main spec and discuss with the subteam if they +1 on my own change | 12:51 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: sounds good | 12:52 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: so it would be helping the proposer to have its spec accepted, and it would help the subteam reviewing that as a prio | 12:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: agreed | 12:52 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: if the subteam thinks it's a good prio, then I'll abandon my change | 12:52 |
| danpb | sdague: in the future we might split off the database and distribute it independently, but it still wouldn't be likely to be something we'd expect apps to directly parse & consume | 12:52 |
| sdague | it just seems like fundamentally the wrong release model for an open data set to be hidden in an execution environment, and be told that's the only way you can access it. | 12:52 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: it does affect the host.is_up call, well, sort of anyway | 12:53 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I just -W'd my change, so it means we will discuss on that during next sched meeting | 12:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: but I am out of touch with where we are right now on all that, so I totally want to defer that to your subteam | 12:54 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: what I want to make sure is that the subteam knows about the specs we're engaged to review and we're accepting | 12:54 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I want all of us to be committed to the success to the specs we agree as a prio | 12:55 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: agreed, I really want everyone reviewing specs, just like everyone is reviewing code, but that just aint happening right now, although you scheduler folks are actually doing a great job there | 12:55 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: we are violently agreeing with each other here | 12:56 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: hence why we need to not overcommit ourselves with reviewing lots of changes if we can't - or subteams would then be not that good | 12:56 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I want to have the subteam offloading the reviewing time by making you cores sure that we at least gave a vote | 12:56 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: you and me both | 12:57 |
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| bauzas | coolness, I'll speak about that next Tues then | 12:57 |
| garyk | is the nova meeting now? | 12:57 |
| sdague | garyk: an hour | 12:57 |
| garyk | sdague: ok, thanks | 12:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | garyk: there is a link to do the translation for you on the agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 12:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | at least its meant to! | 12:58 |
| ndipanov | I think it's in 1h | 12:59 |
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| claudiub|2 | danpb: Hi. If you have a bit of time, can you take a look at the hyper-v uefi secure boot spec? Your comments have been addressed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190997/ | 13:01 |
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| bauzas | eh eh, 1 hour left for pinging people about specs \o/ | 13:02 |
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| garyk | johnthetubaguy: i just commented on the limits spec - what you mention is neutron related and this is epcfically for nova - it also works with nova network. | 13:07 |
| garyk | the implementation is done by the VC and not neutron | 13:08 |
| garyk | neutron has that stuff in discussion and design | 13:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | garyk: what happens if the port is from neutron, but you have that in your settings? | 13:08 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: do you know the difference between a student and me ? | 13:08 |
| garyk | the ESX implements this | 13:08 |
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| garyk | so it will always be driven by Nova | 13:08 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: the student doesn't ask to be noted | 13:08 |
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| bauzas | :) | 13:09 |
| garyk | johnthetubaguy: the is done by the ESX on the VNOC level and not the neutron port. | 13:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | garyk: but if you create the port in neutron, what happens to the nova setting? | 13:09 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: :) | 13:09 |
| garyk | johnthetubaguy: nothing - it just gets the VC DVS port group | 13:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | garyk: similar with cinder volumes really, I guess | 13:09 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: what did I do now? | 13:09 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: orly ? my bad, you know, French trains always have delays | 13:10 |
| garyk | johnthetubaguy: the neutron stuff is something othognal and not related at all to what this feature is trying to do. | 13:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | garyk: OK, so if you use neutron, rather than nova-network, those settings just don't mean anything I guess? | 13:10 |
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| garyk | johnthetubaguy: at the moment they will be implemented by the VC. | 13:10 |
| garyk | the neutron stuff is in discussion and the API may land in L. then each vendor may see how they implement this. | 13:11 |
| garyk | Today the DVS has network limitations which we may decide to leverage later on, but not now | 13:11 |
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| garyk | johnthetubaguy: today in most cases the rxtx factor is treated by nova and not neutron | 13:12 |
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| garyk | neutron does not control anythin on the ESX - it just gets a virtual network | 13:13 |
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| lpetrut1 | johnthetubaguy: Hi | 13:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | garyk: so the qos is applied by the neutron-agent I guess, in theory (or the vif driver), hmm | 13:14 |
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| markus_z | kashyap: A comeback to the problem you faces yesterday wrt https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188058/ | 13:14 |
| lpetrut1 | johnthetubaguy: Could you please take a look over this patch whenever you have time? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195180/ It's the one adding an extra check in the manager event handling method | 13:14 |
| markus_z | kashyap: Is this still present? | 13:14 |
| markus_z | *faced | 13:14 |
| garyk | johnthetubaguy: there is no neutron agent with the VMware driver | 13:14 |
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| kashyap | markus_z: 1 moment, in the middle of shitstorm trying to resolve `tox` deps in my local Nova environment :-( | 13:15 |
| garyk | johnthetubaguy: the qos is done by the VC interafces and enforced by the ESX | 13:15 |
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| markus_z | kashyap: OK, good luck | 13:15 |
| lxsli | kashyap: I find activating the venv and running this a couple of times can help: | 13:16 |
| kashyap | markus_z: I'll try and comment on the review. I need to step out for some late lunch too. | 13:16 |
| garyk | johnthetubaguy: it is kind of like asking why do we let libvirt implement all kinds of networking features if it can be done via neutron. answer is that libvirt controls those specific bits and the same is in this case | 13:16 |
| lxsli | kashyap: for X in `cat requirements.txt test-requirements.txt | sed 's/#.*//;/^$/d'`; do echo $X; pip install $X; done | 13:16 |
| markus_z | kashyap: sure, thanks | 13:17 |
| kashyap | lxsli: That's it I guess. I need to get used to `pip` and ignore system deps | 13:17 |
| lxsli | kashyap: yes I find it's much easier to use venvs for almost everything | 13:18 |
| kashyap | lxsli: Thank you, I was resisting so far to go the pip route, now that you mention it again, I'll just do it, and get some lunch | 13:18 |
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| kashyap | lxsli: Yeah, I began to use Doug Hellman's virtualenvwrapper lately | 13:18 |
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| lxsli | I should check that out | 13:19 |
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| johnthetubaguy | garyk: I wish we could decide what were doing there long term, it would make life easier. Frankly I think my brain is totally burnt out from all the spec reviews right now, I am certainly emotionally totally burnt out from them all. | 13:19 |
| mdbooth | lxsli: Surely you can just activate the venv, then do pip install -r requirements.txt -r test-requirements.txt ? | 13:19 |
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| lxsli | mdbooth: I was a bit frustrated when I wrote it, installing each thing individually means failures are handled separately | 13:20 |
| mdbooth | Ah, ok | 13:20 |
| mdbooth | I wonder if pip can list requirements | 13:21 |
| mdbooth | Then you could toposort it and just run it once | 13:21 |
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| kashyap | lxsli: Do you run that `pip` with sudo? Please tell me no. | 13:21 |
| lxsli | kashyap: absolutely not | 13:21 |
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| kashyap | You said, virtualenv, so I'll take it as no. | 13:21 |
| kashyap | Yep | 13:21 |
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| garyk | johnthetubaguy: i understand and respect the fact that you have invested a lot of time and effort here. the fact that i feel that everything we do in the driver is blocked - for whatever reasons is problematic. this is very frustrating as i see parallel drivers get their similar bits though. so i really feel crap about it and it is not encouraging. | 13:21 |
| mdbooth | kashyap: Do you use devpi-server and a local wheel cache, btw? | 13:22 |
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| garyk | johnthetubaguy: in addition to that it is totally contained within the driver. | 13:22 |
| kashyap | mdbooth: No, I need to. I've heard the trick, just have to do it. Will do it post lunch | 13:22 |
| kashyap | mdbooth: Something like this? - https://www.berrange.com/posts/2014/11/14/faster-rebuilds-for-python-virtualenv-trees/ | 13:22 |
| garyk | i give up. | 13:22 |
| mdbooth | kashyap: It's a job of minutes. | 13:22 |
| mdbooth | kashyap: I do it every time I setup a new dev env. | 13:23 |
| lxsli | mdbooth: Pip 7 automatically caches wheels right? | 13:23 |
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| mdbooth | lxsli: Might do. I don't follow it closely, tbh. | 13:23 |
| kashyap | mdbooth: I see, thanks for reminder, I'll get my act together and prepare proper environments. | 13:24 |
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| neiljerram | johnthetubaguy: Sorry to hear that you feel burnt out by the specs situation. | 13:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | garyk: understood, and that sucks. I have attempted to get folks to do more reviews on specs, but its just not happened, and has left me totally burnt out right now, which certainly wasn't my intention, in fact I tried very hard to not let that happen, but thats just where I am right now | 13:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | garyk: sorry for that, just being honest, as thats my default mode of operation! | 13:25 |
| mdbooth | kashyap: Yup, that's it, btw | 13:26 |
| garyk | johnthetubaguy: i appreciate the honesty and efforts. its just that things are screwed up and they will not change overnight | 13:26 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, fwiw - I don't think it's fair to frame the problem as just people aren't reviewing enough | 13:26 |
| ndipanov | it's not like that | 13:26 |
| jaypipes | neiljerram: I think a lot of us are at this point :/ | 13:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | garyk: agreed | 13:27 |
| garyk | change only comes if people want change. and it seems like nova does not want change so we are all screwed | 13:27 |
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| ndipanov | you can't invent work and then be pissed when people don't happily show up to do it... but it's been discussed on the thread so no need to polute the channel now | 13:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: so agreed there is way way more to it than that, it just feels like that from where I am sat, which is a dumb place | 13:27 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: trust me, I want less dumb work for everyone, and we certainly have less of it than previous releases, but yes, the ML if full of that debate | 13:28 |
| jaypipes | kashyap: sudo pip install sanity. | 13:28 |
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| garyk | johnthetubaguy: ndipanov: at the moment it is all about scatology | 13:29 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, sure - if I didn't think we could get better I wouldn't have brought it up | 13:29 |
| neiljerram | jaypipes, johnthetubaguy I'm afraid I don't have enough experience to offer any solution, so can only express sympathy. | 13:30 |
| garyk | people here want to work and put their efforts into working on things. the problem is that the 'coomunity' will not let us work | 13:30 |
| jaypipes | garyk: come on, I don't think that's the case, Gary... | 13:30 |
| garyk | so instead of delaing with development, but fixing, traiaging and working together. we are all nitpiking about crap that is strbgling the projects | 13:30 |
| garyk | jaypipes: yes, it really is. seriously | 13:31 |
| jaypipes | garyk: it may seem like that, but I assure you that we are slammed with reviews and are doing as many as humanly possible. | 13:31 |
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| garyk | jaypipes: that i understand. the community is growing, the core group is shrining. the numbers speak for themselves. | 13:31 |
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| garyk | is our qulity better - no. | 13:31 |
| garyk | is our product more stable - no | 13:31 |
| garyk | are our contributors happy - no | 13:32 |
| jaypipes | garyk: I disagree with the first two. | 13:32 |
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| ndipanov | yeah I do too - a ton of good work has happened | 13:32 |
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| garyk | no one is saying that the work done is not good | 13:33 |
| garyk | what i am saying is that we can be doing it more efficiently - but we are not | 13:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: I am not against raising the issue, btw, we sure need some healthy debate and solutions | 13:33 |
| dims | sudipto: is this enough for your scenario? https://review.openstack.org/195578 | 13:34 |
| bauzas | can we just take time to see how some new things are done by Liberty before saying contributors are unhappy ? | 13:34 |
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| bauzas | because we now have a Mentoring process, we have a backlog specs process, we have some subteams, etc. | 13:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | garyk: I am not disagreeing with that statement either, and we are actively trying out ideas as we speak right, although they are not obviously making massive changes right now | 13:35 |
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| bauzas | which means we by far have more time for helping people | 13:35 |
| garyk | johnthetubaguy: i am open to change and am happy that attempts are being made. that is progress. | 13:36 |
| bauzas | so, people, please give time for seeing if all of these efforts are good or not | 13:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: many contributors are unhappy, I am trying to engage with describing why we do what we do so they can help change things for the better, and thats all good | 13:36 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: we can't just make them happy by using a magic wand | 13:36 |
| garyk | bauzas: what do you mean? cause my patches are not being reviewd i have more time to review? i do that all the time .... | 13:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Ankit Agrawal proposed openstack/nova: Test patch libvirt race condition (do not merge) https://review.openstack.org/191732 | 13:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: right agreed with you there too, we don't know if the changes we have made will work out in the end, as they are not getting to the payoff part of whats been tried here | 13:37 |
| bauzas | garyk: I mean that we know that we have some things to change, but some new programs kicked-off, so please leave some time before giving a status IMHO | 13:37 |
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| garyk | bauzas: what is frustrating is the following: | 13:38 |
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| bauzas | garyk: (waiting your comments) | 13:39 |
| garyk | is that instead of having a feeling of being productive whatever one does feelis like they are stonewalled | 13:39 |
| bauzas | garyk: okay, I think it's all about our mindsets | 13:39 |
| garyk | look at the scheduler for an example - it has been ove r 2years that we are talking about splitting this out | 13:40 |
| bauzas | garyk: I know I have some features to push | 13:40 |
| garyk | are we closer no. we are locking this more and more into nova | 13:40 |
| bauzas | garyk: but for me, it's by far more important to help with Nova than pushing my own features even if I do want to | 13:40 |
| sudipto | dims, so whatever is obtained currently as a diff - the implementing subclasses could choose to filter it further - based on the black/whitelist? | 13:40 |
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| garyk | are we able to develop things in drivers that are not libvirt - yeah, 1 out of 15 specs, if you are lucky | 13:40 |
| bauzas | garyk: do you honestly know why we take 2 years for improving the scheduler ? because we sucked in the past | 13:41 |
| garyk | bauzas: no, i disagree. we are the same group of people | 13:41 |
| garyk | bauzas: cause now we are getting stuck in process | 13:41 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so the way I see it, we are moving forward and thats great | 13:42 |
| bauzas | garyk: talking about the sched split again, I'm now not really wanting to having it split | 13:42 |
| garyk | the specs in some cases provide some brilliant clarify, but in others they are pointlesss, time consuming and a huge overhead | 13:42 |
| bauzas | garyk: you know why ? because by the previous years, I understood all the problems we have and what we need to have | 13:42 |
| bauzas | garyk: we need to have features, not technology | 13:42 |
| claudiub|2 | I dunno, maybe the driver decomposition is needed? A lot of the driver specs impacts only X driver and can be implemented with just code in the XDriver. A good part of them is for parity as well. And what's worse, there are proposals for integrating new drivers into nova, like docker and Hyper, or others I'm not really aware of, which will only increase the congesstion even further. :) | 13:43 |
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| bauzas | garyk: meaning that it's more important to serve usecases and find how to do that rather than just splitting for the god's sake | 13:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | so we need to start writing down *why* we have decided the current path | 13:43 |
| garyk | claudiub|2: yes, maybe the time has come to do a driver split. in neutron it worked fine and developers there are actually a lot happier | 13:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am trying to get to that point, but we are not there | 13:43 |
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| johnthetubaguy | once we have that, the debate will be much healthier | 13:44 |
| garyk | bauzas: what do you mean technology? | 13:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | helping doing that would be very welcome | 13:44 |
| bauzas | garyk: "I want the scheduler to be spit" is not an usecase IMHO | 13:44 |
| bauzas | split eh | 13:44 |
| * bauzas is like this kind of kids who spit | 13:44 | |
| garyk | bauzas: so how would you provide a feature like network proximity or volume proximity? without having a global picture of all resources | 13:44 |
| bauzas | garyk: we need to have a sane discussion on how to provide those resources | 13:45 |
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| claudiub|2 | garyk: as the one that handled the Hyper-V neutron agent decomposition, I can say that it felt liberating, no longer having to wait days / weeks for reviews. :) | 13:45 |
| garyk | bauzas: how can you if you only have a one side view of the compute resources and not anything else. | 13:45 |
| bauzas | garyk: but do you want to know how many people came to our x-session meetings for discussing about cross-project resources ? crickets. | 13:45 |
| garyk | bauzas: cause we chased them away. | 13:46 |
| garyk | seriously | 13:46 |
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| garyk | i do not want to mention names, but there were some serious scheuler players involved and we stonewalled them | 13:46 |
| bauzas | garyk: so, yeah, I'm gonna help the usecase by refining the APIs, like we agreed 2 cycles before, and then we'll kick-off a discussion in Tokyo for seeing how we can get other projects' resources hopefully | 13:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | claudiub|2: like I was saying there are a bunch of reasons why we are not doing the split out, and I think its something worth debating, but I really want to frame that conversation, and help doing that is super super welcome | 13:47 |
| garyk | we did not encourage and welcome them to the comminuty | 13:47 |
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| garyk | anyway, i am sorry for the crap. i am off to rebase some things before the meeting | 13:47 |
| bauzas | garyk: sorry ? say it again ? we didn't welcomed people contributing to the scheduler ? shall I mention lxsli, edleafe or myself ? | 13:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Scheuring proposed openstack/nova-specs: Spec to Add 'macvtap' as vif type to novas libvirt driver. https://review.openstack.org/182280 | 13:48 |
| bauzas | didn't alex_xu_ being welcomed for his help with the API policy stuff ? | 13:48 |
| garyk | bauzas: this was before you guys started to work on it | 13:48 |
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| bauzas | garyk: I certainly understand we sucked in the past | 13:48 |
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| sahid | johnthetubaguy: perhaps we can think about to have team lead for each drivers and somes lieutenants | 13:49 |
| * sudipto working off dims changes right away | 13:49 | |
| sahid | on libvirt we are happy to have severals core to reviews the code and make it merged | 13:49 |
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| sahid | in xen it is the same i think | 13:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | sahid: we proposed the subteam system at the summit, which is very similar to that, so they can ad hoc form and lead that area, and start to gain independence | 13:49 |
| bauzas | honestly, I'm going back to code as well, this whole convo makes me uncomfortable | 13:49 |
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| sahid | but for vmware and hyperv :/ | 13:50 |
| sahid | johnthetubaguy: yep | 13:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | sahid: is it working as I would like yet, no, not really, I still think the idea is worth trying properly | 13:50 |
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| mriedem | garyk: a few things to cleanup here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165060/ | 13:51 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sahid: for reference, you become a subteam on this etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-priorities-tracking | 13:51 |
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| garyk | danpb: i am not sure that ui understand your comment on the limits spec. Do this mean we need to abandon? | 13:52 |
| garyk | it is really a parity feature | 13:52 |
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| garyk | danpb: how does it differ from https://github.com/openstack/nova-specs/commit/3b32baa07a50536b31362e683d82c66bbe8aca88? | 13:53 |
| sahid | johnthetubaguy: actually i set my own name on this, i wanted to refer people they use to contribute on libvirt | 13:53 |
| garyk | does a tenant need to know that? | 13:53 |
| garyk | mriedem: thanks | 13:54 |
| sahid | i'm not sure to know whether that helped to make things moving forward | 13:54 |
| claudiub|2 | sahid: yeah, there is the concept of subteams / teamleads, as johnthetubaguy mentioned and also linked the etherpad, but we still have commits in that priority list that is weeks old. | 13:55 |
| sahid | i just say that we need to make code merged - split drivers or have "real" team will help | 13:56 |
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| johnthetubaguy | claudiub|2: thats the bit were I say its not working yet, but people have not really all got used to the concept yet, and I suspect we need to refine that quite a bit | 13:56 |
| garyk | sahid: that was done in neutron and the model works very well. | 13:56 |
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| claudiub|2 | johnthetubaguy: IMO, there should be at least 1 core to each subteam, that reviews those commits. Otherwise, they won't get any attention | 13:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add RequestSpec methods for primitiving into dicts https://review.openstack.org/187197 | 13:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Use RequestSpec object in HostManager https://review.openstack.org/191251 | 13:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Use the same pci_requests field for all filters and HostManager https://review.openstack.org/191250 | 13:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Remove unnecessary method in FilterScheduler https://review.openstack.org/188485 | 13:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Consider that all scheduler calls are IO Ops https://review.openstack.org/188486 | 13:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Create RequestSpec object https://review.openstack.org/145528 | 13:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Use RequestSpec object in the FilterScheduler https://review.openstack.org/188487 | 13:58 |
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| johnthetubaguy | claudiub|2: ideally two cores in each subteam, but yes, it would work better that way, but I don't want to restrict the subteams in a way where they must have a core, I would like cores to join subteams where possible, but thats not happening yet either | 13:58 |
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| mriedem | meeting in 1 minute | 13:59 |
| sahid | johnthetubaguy: right two core is needed ..ideally 3 ! | 13:59 |
| bauzas | mriedem: hell, so refreshing ping | 13:59 |
| mriedem | oprah: you get a core! and you get a core! everyone gets a core! | 13:59 |
| claudiub|2 | mriedem: lol | 13:59 |
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| claudiub|2 | sahid: there is also the concept that the "all subteam's +1 = +2" | 14:00 |
| claudiub|2 | that will have to be implemented somehow. | 14:00 |
| sahid | claudiub|2: is that make thing merged, so yes :) | 14:00 |
| bauzas | claudiub|2: there is no discrete number of members within the subteam, it's open | 14:00 |
| sahid | but if it is to have 8+1 waiting for a core to find the time to review it | 14:01 |
| sahid | i mean a last core | 14:01 |
| bauzas | (gosh, I promised myself to not be in the discussion) | 14:01 |
| bauzas | meeting ! | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | claudiub|2: we said at the summit, the idea is that the subteam recommendation needs to gain the trust of the core members who will treat it as a +2, although the plan was to discuss if we start doing that at the midcycle | 14:01 |
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| garyk | alaski: https://review.openstack.org/195518 - pagination and all | 14:07 |
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| elmiko | hi all, i have a question about Eric Brown's comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194290/ | 14:16 |
| elmiko | this change was cherry-picked, should i have done something different with the patch to indicate this? | 14:16 |
| elmiko | oh wait, just saw the new comment from Dave Walker.... | 14:17 |
| * elmiko feels sheepish | 14:17 | |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Implements 'microversions' api type - Part 1 https://review.openstack.org/152569 | 14:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Implements 'microversions' api type - Part 2 https://review.openstack.org/167408 | 14:18 |
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| mriedem | elmiko: typically you should cherry pick to stable using 'git cherry-pick -x <git commit hash of source commit>' | 14:21 |
| mriedem | elmiko: so i agree with eriwb | 14:21 |
| mriedem | *ericwb | 14:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Change default compute api version https://review.openstack.org/184658 | 14:23 |
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| nagyz | do I see correctly that the ImagePropertiesFilter cannot filter on disk_format? | 14:32 |
| bauzas | alaski: uh, you probably missed the beginning of the nova meeting with such big email :p | 14:32 |
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| alaski | bauzas: heh, I was just finishing it up then | 14:33 |
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| elmiko | mriedem: ahh, that was my flub, i missed the -x option. thanks for the info =) | 14:33 |
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| mriedem | elmiko: np | 14:33 |
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| bauzas | elmiko: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranch#Proposing_Fixes | 14:33 |
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| elmiko | bauzas: yea, i followed that. just not closely enough ;) | 14:34 |
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| mriedem | ctrath: rlrossit: we have a lot of nova bugs marked as high severity, might be good experience to comb through some of those, since some have reviews - could check out the reviews to see if they are sane, and some might not be high severity after all | 14:35 |
| mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?orderby=-importance&start=0 | 14:35 |
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| bauzas | nagyz: no, you're rightr | 14:39 |
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| nagyz | bauzas, I have some nodes where the ephemeral is on ceph so I must use raw images while on some other nodes it's on local SSD... | 14:40 |
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| nagyz | so there I want qcow2 | 14:40 |
| ctrath | mriedem: Ok, I'll take a look at some today | 14:40 |
| bauzas | nagyz: you can easily create your own out-of-tree filter which would look at that property | 14:40 |
| bauzas | nagyz: since we pass the whole image dictionary | 14:41 |
| nagyz | right. I'll probably do that.. but I figured the upstream filter should be able to do this as well | 14:41 |
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| mdbooth | dansmith: I was just writing a -1 review for that patch :) | 14:42 |
| mdbooth | Meh, I've started so I'll finish | 14:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Gilliard proposed openstack/nova-specs: Query and cancel ongoing live migrations https://review.openstack.org/179149 | 14:42 |
| dansmith | mdbooth: which, mriedem's ? | 14:42 |
| mdbooth | Yeah | 14:42 |
| mdbooth | Nothing earth shattering | 14:43 |
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| dansmith | mdbooth: well, hurry up and I'll remove my -W if need be | 14:43 |
| dansmith | before it merges I mean | 14:43 |
| mdbooth | Nah, I was just pointing out that it's still racy | 14:43 |
| mdbooth | Just less so | 14:43 |
| mdbooth | So merge away | 14:43 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: there is another thing that can be done to completely lock it down | 14:43 |
| mriedem | which i already know about | 14:43 |
| dansmith | mdbooth: this is the "fix the thing I know is completely wrong but refuse to check" level of fix | 14:44 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: I was going to suggest passing the mac to disassociate(), and doing a compare and swap in the db | 14:44 |
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| dansmith | mdbooth: like, we didn't even check to see if we *think* the IP is properly owned by the de-lease-er | 14:44 |
| mdbooth | dansmith: Indeed. | 14:44 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: That way, disassociate() would be atomic wrt to mac, no race at all. | 14:45 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: mine was basically the opposite, pass the vif to fixedip.associated and set the allocated flag at the same time that the instance is associated with the fixedip | 14:45 |
| mriedem | which requires a db api and rpc version change in the fixed ip object | 14:45 |
| dansmith | mdbooth: right, we know that needs to happen, but without the mac in that function, we can't make that call | 14:45 |
| mdbooth | Yeah, I saw that | 14:45 |
| mriedem | the allocated=True flag just means that fixedip.virtual_interface_id is set | 14:45 |
| mdbooth | Anyway, as I say the patch as is is an obvious improvement | 14:45 |
| mriedem | which, btw, couldn't we do that with some sqlalchemy magic? | 14:45 |
| mriedem | so we don't actually need the allocated column? | 14:46 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: It's not that magic :) | 14:46 |
| mriedem | couldn't it just be a property on the model? | 14:46 |
| mriedem | @property, like name in instances | 14:46 |
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| mdbooth | I'm still in the middle of it, but assuming it's not a direct property you can still do it with an exists clause | 14:46 |
| bauzas | alaski: ooooooh, just seeing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192875/3/nova/cells/filters/different_cell.py,cm | 14:46 |
| mdbooth | i.e. update foo set bar=blah where exists(select 1 from baz where grok=iverunout) | 14:47 |
| bauzas | alaski: 'routing_path' is a filt_props key already provided ? | 14:47 |
| mriedem | alaski: melwitt: bauzas: not sure we're going to get to voting on the cells job in the meeting today :( | 14:47 |
| bauzas | mriedem: yep, no real time for the discussion | 14:47 |
| alaski | bauzas: yes, the cells scheduler adds it. well, I should double check that the upstream one does | 14:47 |
| alaski | mriedem: I'm getting that feeling | 14:48 |
| bauzas | alaski: please do, I should add that to the object then :( | 14:48 |
| mriedem | i'll horn in when there is 7.5 minutes left | 14:48 |
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| bauzas | alaski: that's just like gold-mining to create that object | 14:48 |
| bauzas | alaski: digging and digging again for finding all the keys provided in filt_props | 14:48 |
| melwitt | mriedem, alaski: yeah, also getting the feeling | 14:49 |
| melwitt | spoke too soon :P | 14:49 |
| alaski | heh | 14:51 |
| melwitt | I'll add a Depends-On to the voting patch | 14:52 |
| alaski | bauzas: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/cells/scheduler.py#n213 | 14:52 |
| mriedem | melwitt: you could just rebase on top of the regex patc hright? | 14:52 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194410/ | 14:52 |
| * bauzas whispers | 14:52 | |
| melwitt | mriedem: oh, right. I'm in project-config, not nova. | 14:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Dulko proposed openstack/nova: Allow Cinder to raise when attaching a volume https://review.openstack.org/195617 | 14:53 |
| alaski | bauzas: it would probably be better to update those method calls than to modify filter_properties, if that can be done sanely | 14:53 |
| bauzas | alaski: you mean getting the routing_path only when needed in the filter ? | 14:54 |
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| mdbooth | mriedem: commented | 15:01 |
| artom | So, I didn't want to bring it up during the meeting because it's not stuck per se, but if API folks could go over my all tenants floating IPs spec one last time: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171389/ | 15:01 |
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| melwitt | johnthetubaguy, mriedem: do you think I should write a ML post about the quotas? I'm concerned about nested quotas being blocked (patches are already up), if quota simplification has to happen first, is there a way we can make progress on that in L considering we already approved the nested quotas for L? | 15:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | melwitt: I think we have to not block nested, if we didn't get the simplification spec up and approved | 15:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | melwitt: now I wish it was the other way around, but they have been waiting ages at this point, and we already told them yes twice, even if the second time was slightly accidental | 15:03 |
| melwitt | johnthetubaguy: okay, that's my thought as well | 15:03 |
| mdbooth | Incidentally, I'd love to land this fix for a really old race condition affecting all api operations on instances: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141115/ | 15:04 |
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| danpb | johnthetubaguy: i'm wondering what you think we should do with the VIF type nova/neutron integration/plugins spec(s) | 15:04 |
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| danpb | johnthetubaguy: previously we debated ability to have neutron specify scripts to invoke by nova, but then i switched to suggest a more formal object model & plugin system https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193668/ | 15:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: we just discussed that in the meeting it seems like the consensus was to not block new drivers, while the new lib happens in paralell | 15:05 |
| danpb | given the spec deadline though and lack of interest from most of nova-core, its feeling like its unlikely to make it | 15:05 |
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| johnthetubaguy | danpb: that all sounds important enough for an exception to me | 15:06 |
| danpb | oh that's a shame i couldn't make the meeting | 15:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: if we agree that direction, we can sort out the paperwork to make that possible | 15:06 |
| danpb | ok, so you think there's still a realistic chance we could do it for liberty if we can agree on exception | 15:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | danpb: so the review timeline is getting crazy short at this point, but we should still try agree the direction at least, even if we can't quite make it, we should agree that direction right? | 15:07 |
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| danpb | yeah, it'd be nice to do that | 15:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: thats my gut feeling here, anyways | 15:07 |
| edleafe | bauzas: answered you on the spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187739 | 15:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: cool, lets try for that | 15:08 |
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| danpb | as we could at least start some of the work to move things forward | 15:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: +1 | 15:08 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: if that's still confusing, let's discuss here | 15:08 |
| danpb | even if we don't end up merging it | 15:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: so if we need a feature branch for this, we could do that, but not sure if that really helps | 15:08 |
| bauzas | edleafe: oh I see your confusion | 15:09 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: if you see my series, you'll find the latest one as being the HostManager change | 15:09 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: that one is having a Partially-Implements tag, which means it's not the last from the series | 15:09 |
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| johnthetubaguy | melwitt: let me know if there is something I can do to say we are not blocking that quota stuff, not had chance to review that yet | 15:10 |
| edleafe | bauzas: ok, understood | 15:10 |
| bauzas | edleafe: that's because I'm iteratively modifying portions of code to verify that Nova is happy | 15:10 |
| bauzas | edleafe: and it took me a certain amount of time to fix the HostManager use | 15:10 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: but how does that affect filter.py | 15:10 |
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| scheuran | danpb: johnthetubaguy: along to the decission to not block new vif_types, could you have another look at the macvtap-vif spec if there are some show stoppers to get it in in the old way?: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182280/ | 15:11 |
| bauzas | edleafe: that's the next patch I'm going to deliver, because I'll set a new method for filters.py passing a ReqSpec object | 15:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | scheuran: not today, I am afraid, but in general I hope to | 15:11 |
| edleafe | bauzas: I think you're missing the point | 15:11 |
| bauzas | edleafe: probably, I don't see the relationship with your change | 15:11 |
| scheuran | johnthetubaguy: no problem, thx | 15:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Maxim Nestratov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: resize ploop disks with prl_disk_tool https://review.openstack.org/182390 | 15:12 |
| edleafe | bauzas: I'm proposing recording the results of each filter. How does ReqSpec have anything to do with that? | 15:12 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: it's just a better way of getting filter info to the filters, but it won't change their result | 15:12 |
| bauzas | edleafe: you know the funny part of it ? I have no idea why ReqSpec is mentioned in your spec, since I didn't told about it - at all | 15:13 |
| melwitt | johnthetubaguy: okay. I *think* everything is fine, that is, I think no one thinks it's blocked, but I will check on the patches to make sure they're still moving | 15:13 |
| bauzas | edleafe: see all my comments, you won't see me saying I'd like to see the ReqSpec object implemented before your spec | 15:13 |
| edleafe | bauzas: because the first idea was to attach the filter results to ReqSpec, where they would be persisted | 15:14 |
| edleafe | bauzas: that was changed in favor of simply logging the failures | 15:14 |
| edleafe | bauzas: see the earlier revisions | 15:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | melwitt: cool | 15:15 |
| bauzas | edleafe: I see it now... | 15:15 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: so, what's your problem since I was not aware of that ? | 15:15 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: I mean, I was just replying to your point which was saying "I don't think filters will get updated by having a Spec object | 15:16 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: it was jaypipes' comment about "how you plan to attach this information to the RequestSpec object... | 15:16 |
| mnestratov | repeating here what I hadn't chance to discuss on nova-meeting jus a moment ago about parallels/virtuozzo driver feature parity changes | 15:16 |
| mnestratov | we have a set of small fixes and they don't have enough attention. is is possible to look at them somehow? | 15:16 |
| mnestratov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182257/ | 15:16 |
| mnestratov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184153/ | 15:16 |
| mnestratov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186858/ | 15:16 |
| mnestratov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182390/ | 15:16 |
| mnestratov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184311/ | 15:16 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: okay, so, please consider that you'll get a host_passes(RequestSpec) method for each filter | 15:16 |
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| mriedem | mnestratov: you just did | 15:17 |
| edleafe | bauzas: I was wrong to guess that ReqSpec wasn't going to be finished by L, but that's not really relevant to the current proposal | 15:17 |
| bauzas | edleafe: yup I don't think it's related | 15:17 |
| mriedem | mnestratov: make sure your ci is reporting on those, i don't see it on all of them | 15:17 |
| edleafe | bauzas: there is no interaction at all with either filter_properties or ReqSpec involved | 15:17 |
| bauzas | edleafe: I mean, I began to review your spec when you dropped the idea of using the ReqSpec object | 15:17 |
| mnestratov | mriedem: ok sure | 15:18 |
| edleafe | bauzas: yeah, the idea of attaching to ReqSpec was from some discussions at the Summit | 15:18 |
| bauzas | edleafe: since I missed that point, I need to think about that and see if the original proposition was better - like jaypipes said | 15:18 |
| bauzas | edleafe: gotcha | 15:18 |
| bauzas | edleafe: ok, now I understand better how the ReqSpec object popped up in the discussion | 15:19 |
| edleafe | bauzas: there was a lot of pushbackk about persisting all results, whether in ReqSpec or logs | 15:19 |
| edleafe | bauzas: if we're only going to record the failures, logs seemed like a better choice | 15:19 |
| bauzas | edleafe: so, given that, probably a discussion with jaypipes is worth it, no ? | 15:19 |
| edleafe | bauzas: sure | 15:19 |
| mnestratov | mriedem: last changes on these were made before CI started to report on regular basis | 15:20 |
| bauzas | edleafe: as I said, I need to think more about the opportunity of amending the Spec object for that puropo | 15:20 |
| edleafe | bauzas: I pinged him yesterday, but I was in and out a lot, and never followed up on IRC | 15:20 |
| mriedem | mnestratov: can't you recheck the ci on them manually? | 15:20 |
| bauzas | purpose even | 15:20 |
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| mnestratov | mriedem: sure | 15:20 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: okay, I'll review your spec carefully then, and look at the very first PS | 15:20 |
| edleafe | bauzas: the pain point is operators who can't tell why no hosts were found | 15:20 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: I don't think we really need to muck up the ReqSpec for that | 15:21 |
| bauzas | edleafe: I appreciate the usecase | 15:21 |
| edleafe | bauzas: logs would work better, IMO | 15:21 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: not 100% sure about that still, mriedem made a good point about instance_faults and instance_actions | 15:22 |
| bauzas | edleafe: I was originally thinking about that in Kilo | 15:22 |
| bauzas | edleafe: and my take was that probably select_destinations() wasn't rich enough when there was a failure | 15:22 |
| edleafe | bauzas: this spec only addresses when no hosts pass the filters | 15:23 |
| edleafe | bauzas: not when hosts pass but the instance fails to spawn | 15:23 |
| bauzas | edleafe: instead of throwing an exception, we should rather give the list of filters and hosts and leave the conductor probably do the update | 15:23 |
| edleafe | bauzas: that's a whole 'nother issue | 15:23 |
| bauzas | edleafe: you misunderstood me | 15:23 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: it wouldn't be the first time :) | 15:23 |
| bauzas | edleafe: when a filter is saying 0 hosts, then the scheduler throws an exception | 15:23 |
| bauzas | edleafe: instead of throwing an exception, we could return a rich set of information back to the conductor so it could use it | 15:24 |
| kfox1111 | johnthetubaguy: any movement on the instance user spec? | 15:24 |
| edleafe | bauzas: use it how? | 15:25 |
| bauzas | edleafe: logging an instance_fault by example | 15:25 |
| edleafe | bauzas: no hosts matched what was requested. | 15:25 |
| bauzas | oops, s/logging/updating | 15:25 |
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| bauzas | that way, an operator could use the REST API for giving the faults related to the instance, and he would know which filter is wrong | 15:26 |
| bauzas | edleafe: without needing to read thru the logs | 15:26 |
| bauzas | for getting, not giving... | 15:26 |
| mriedem | mnestratov: this is not something you can leak into the compute api https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186858/ | 15:27 |
| edleafe | bauzas: what about mriedem's point about Horizon leaking that information? | 15:27 |
| bauzas | edleafe: tbh, the more I think about that, the more I care about providing a way to use the REST API for this | 15:27 |
| mriedem | mnestratov: the compute api shouldn't be checking some specific config from libvirt | 15:27 |
| bauzas | edleafe: eh, isn't that an RBAC policy ? | 15:28 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: "I know we have instance_actions and instance_faults which are shown in Horizon and we don't want to leak details to non-admin users" | 15:28 |
| bauzas | edleafe: that doesn't necessarly mean we can't add a specific method for getting the scheduler faults which would be admin-only | 15:28 |
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| johnthetubaguy | kfox1111: same message as before, except the freeze is in place now I am afraid | 15:29 |
| bauzas | edleafe: or we could just rip the scheduler details on the API if the admin policy isn't enforced | 15:29 |
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| mnestratov | mriedem: I see, but what would you recomend if we don't support 'virtio' bus which reflects vda devices | 15:30 |
| jaypipes | bauzas, edleafe: would you catch me up to this conversation please? | 15:30 |
| kfox1111 | damn. | 15:30 |
| edleafe | bauzas: Relying on policy for security doesn't seems wise | 15:30 |
| mriedem | mnestratov: i'm saying, you can't have this in the nova.compute.api: if CONF.libvirt.virt_type == 'parallels': | 15:30 |
| mriedem | mnestratov: my suggestions are inline | 15:30 |
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| edleafe | jaypipes: it's logging vs. returning filter failures to conductor | 15:30 |
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| kfox1111 | very unfortunate for all the other projecdts that will now be working around the lack of the feature. :/ | 15:30 |
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| edleafe | jaypipes: and then having conductor add those to instance_faults | 15:31 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: so, given the problem of providing a good interface for the operator to get information about a scheduler failure, I think we should give back the information to the conductor (instead of raising a NoValidHost exception) so that we could use that and persist that in like instance_faults | 15:31 |
| kfox1111 | johnthetubaguy: what's the spec freeze exception process like? I want to formally request one. | 15:31 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: this would require adding an admin-only API call so that operators could query the filter results | 15:31 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: and do the necessary policy control stuff for making sure it's admin only | 15:31 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: instead of having to go through logs | 15:31 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: the problem with that is that instance_faults would leak implementation details of the underlying resource providers. | 15:31 |
| mriedem | mnestratov: unless there is something i'm not finding with image/volume metadata that would have the virt type info in it, i would add a get_default_root_device() method to the virt driver api which returns 'vda' in the ComputeDriver base class, and is overridden in the libvirt driver to return 'sda' if you're using parallels | 15:31 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: this is only for the case where all hosts are filtered out | 15:31 |
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| edleafe | jaypipes: not for build failures | 15:32 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: that's why I say it has to be policy driven | 15:32 |
| kfox1111 | I believe the really contentious stuff is already out of the way, and the rest can be dealt with in code review. | 15:32 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: right, but we don't want, for example, instance_faults to contain something like "first filter got X hosts, second winnowed to Y hosts, etc" | 15:32 |
| mnestratov | mriedem: got you, sounds reasonable | 15:32 |
| edleafe | bauzas: right now ops has no view. This would give them the view into that info | 15:32 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: ie. if only if it's an admin, we give that info | 15:32 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: but that's pretty much what bauzas is thinking (if I'm understanding him correctly) | 15:33 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: and it's not even that | 15:33 |
| jaypipes | bauzas, edleafe: how about just having that level of detail in the logging records, and giving a generic "Failed filter X" message in NoValidHost? | 15:33 |
| kfox1111 | we're seeing cases like Octavia which are coming up with their own solutions just to work aroudn the lack of instance users. and several other projects are starting to go down that path too. :/ | 15:33 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: it would be "Filter Foo returned HostA, HostC, HostQ. Filter Bar returned HostC. Filter Baz returned nothing." | 15:33 |
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| jaypipes | edleafe: no, I don't want to have that in the fault message. | 15:34 |
| kfox1111 | its fracturing openstack further. :/ | 15:34 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: that is leaking way too much internal info. | 15:34 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: that's what my spec calls for: logging the filtering results when no hosts pass filtering | 15:34 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: in logs?? | 15:34 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: who has access to logs except people who already know the internal info? | 15:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make evacuate update the migration object along the way https://review.openstack.org/194373 | 15:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: API support for migration_type https://review.openstack.org/183200 | 15:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add some notifications to the evacuate path https://review.openstack.org/194372 | 15:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make live migration create a migration object record https://review.openstack.org/183331 | 15:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make evacuate leave a record for the source compute host to process https://review.openstack.org/183354 | 15:35 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: yes, I support the logging in your spec. What I do not support is putting that information as-is in the fault returned to the user (i.e. NoValidHost) | 15:35 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it would be leaked to the user | 15:35 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: of course not | 15:35 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: that's not what I proposed at all | 15:35 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: I do not want any changes to the REST API in this spec. | 15:36 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: I'm explicitely saying since 10 mins that it has to be RBAC driven by an API endpoint | 15:36 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: no. | 15:36 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: it was what bauzas thought would be helpful in the instance_faults table | 15:36 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: that's what I'm saying is not a good idea. | 15:36 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: +1 to no API change | 15:36 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: no changes to the REST API. just use the existing NoValidHost, and have a better fault message. | 15:36 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: so you prefer having operators using Kibana and other awks to find the relevant entries in the rotated logs to match with a request-id they would get using /os-instance-actions ? | 15:36 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: yes. this isn't an os-instance-action. It's a log-level record of the details of filter decisions. | 15:37 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: can you re-review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187739 and see if you agree? If so, removing the -1 would be a big help | 15:37 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: okay, how the operator is getting the relevant scheduler log entry corresponding to the faulty instance, since the scheduler doesn't know the instance uuid ? | 15:37 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: OK, so the thing I wanted in that review was an indication of how you are returning the detailed filter result information (via the request_spec object) to the conductor, which then would build the informative fault message from that info for the NoValidHost return. | 15:38 |
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| danpb | does nova have any persistent record in the database about VIFs attached to a guest ? | 15:38 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: the operator knows the request_id. she can look up the relevant log messages via that id, filtering by "nova.scheduler.*" | 15:38 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: what more information would you want other than "no hosts met the filter criteria"? | 15:39 |
| danpb | something equivalent to the block device mapping but for nics ? | 15:39 |
| jaypipes | danpb: meh, kinda... | 15:39 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: how does he know the request id ? | 15:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Karim Boumedhel proposed openstack/nova: report an error for hw:numa_nodes=0 https://review.openstack.org/190267 | 15:39 |
| jaypipes | danpb: the virtual_interfaces table has *some* of the info. | 15:39 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: because it's not given by a nova show | 15:39 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: it's in the HTTP response. | 15:39 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: I see, other way, he greps the nova-api log to get the req-id from the nova boot, and then look at n-sch to get the log | 15:40 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: I just think having a REST API doesn't sound that mad you're thinking about | 15:40 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: I also have POC code for the spec here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192184/ | 15:40 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: in particular when logs are rotated once per day and gzipped | 15:40 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: that just makes me think that Rackspace for example would prefer something better than just digging in the logs | 15:41 |
| danpb | jaypipes: ok thanks for the pointer | 15:41 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: because you would imagine 10 nova-api processes, 1 week retention and one nova-sch per cell... | 15:42 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: so, are you -2 on providing an API because it requires an API change or because you care about any possible leakage ? | 15:43 |
| mriedem | mnestratov: sorry, but the virt driver idea won't work in the nova.compute.api since there isn't a virt driver reference in there | 15:43 |
| mnestratov | mriedem: I saw your comment | 15:43 |
| mriedem | mnestratov: so you'll have to move that to the compute manager somehow, or fix it in the virt driver, or use some image/volume metadata key if available | 15:43 |
| mriedem | mnestratov: unless ndipanov has other ideas | 15:43 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: (I also wish good pleasure to operators once we fix the n-sch scalability issue and then we can scale out using multiple processes) | 15:44 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: don't assume a logrotate'd deployment.. | 15:44 |
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| ndipanov | mriedem, link pls | 15:44 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186858/ | 15:44 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: don't assume a 1x n-api and 1x n-sch :) | 15:44 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: I am -2 on using an existing os-instance-actions API that wasn't designed or fits this situation. | 15:44 |
| jwcroppe_ | bauzas: FWIW, I think anything we can do to get even some primitive strides forward (read: simple log improvements) to better understand why a VM couldn't schedule would be tremendously useful for operators | 15:44 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: -2 on os-instance-actions, that I understand because I was unclear | 15:45 |
| ndipanov | mriedem, ah | 15:45 |
| ndipanov | super sad | 15:45 |
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| mnestratov | mriedem: moving this code from api would mean that we should move assigning vda from here too. Is this what you assumed? | 15:46 |
| ndipanov | mnestratov, not so fast | 15:46 |
| ndipanov | you have to assume vda there | 15:46 |
| bauzas | jwcroppe_: fair point, I'm just thinking of the usability of that | 15:46 |
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| ndipanov | there is a reason for it - it has to do with block device mapping format | 15:46 |
| ndipanov | but not too important for this patch | 15:46 |
| ndipanov | just assume that it has to be there | 15:47 |
| bauzas | jwcroppe_: since the scheduler doesn't know the instance UUIDs, you will only get failure information regarding a request-id | 15:47 |
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| mnestratov | ndipanov: then we should rewrite root_device in case of parallels virt_type ignoring what was specified | 15:48 |
| ndipanov | mnestratov, however compute manager will call default_root_device_name | 15:48 |
| bauzas | jwcroppe_: that's the main thing I think it's just not that simple as a grep "instance_uuid" /var/log/nova/nova-scheduler.lgo | 15:48 |
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| jwcroppe_ | bauzas: we've had some proto code that creates some textual reports when schedules fail and I can tell you it saves me a *boat load* of time troubleshooting which of 25 filters failed :) | 15:48 |
| ndipanov | and there it will delegate to the virt driver | 15:48 |
| ndipanov | which will know that it's running parallels and can override it | 15:48 |
| ndipanov | so your fix should be there | 15:48 |
| bauzas | jwcroppe_: how do you match the relationship between a schedule request and an instance boot ? | 15:49 |
| ndipanov | unless libvirt already checks that | 15:49 |
| ndipanov | and then the fix is to make it always override what is supplied | 15:49 |
| ndipanov | which I've already fixed in all other places | 15:49 |
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| ndipanov | though mriedem won't approve my patches for what I can only attribute to personal grudge | 15:50 |
| jwcroppe_ | bauzas: I'd have to check, but I thought the inst uuid is somewhere in the request spec once it gets to select_destinations | 15:50 |
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| bauzas | jwcroppe_: tss tss tss, it isn't | 15:50 |
| mnestratov | ndipanov: ok, thanks. I just thought, when I did my change, that I should take into account cases that you had in your mind when you added this default vda assigning | 15:50 |
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| jwcroppe_ | looking at the code now...sec | 15:50 |
| bauzas | jwcroppe_: it has been removed since Juno or Kilo, I don't remember | 15:50 |
| ndipanov | mnestratov, see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189632/ | 15:50 |
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| ndipanov | jk mriedem btw :) | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: Split instance resize operation into 2 phases https://review.openstack.org/195088 | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: Create class hierarchy for tasks in conductor https://review.openstack.org/184495 | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: hypervisor support matrix: add feature "serial console" https://review.openstack.org/180912 | 15:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: hypervisor support matrix: fix "evacuate" for s390 and hyper-v https://review.openstack.org/194730 | 15:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: hypervisor support matrix: add CLI commands to features https://review.openstack.org/195647 | 15:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: hypervisor support matrix: add feature "evacuate" https://review.openstack.org/195648 | 15:52 |
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| mriedem | ndipanov: just added myself to that this morning, you bastard :) | 15:54 |
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| jwcroppe_ | bauzas: request_spec['instance_properties']['uuid'] | 15:54 |
| mriedem | er, to the base change | 15:54 |
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| ndipanov | mriedem, in all seriousness - it might fix a bunch of problems we're having with _get_disk_info | 15:55 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: ok, it's in a tab | 15:55 |
| mriedem | i plan on just doing reviews today | 15:55 |
| ndipanov | nice | 15:55 |
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| kashyap | mdbooth: Thank you for reminding the devpi+wheel. I did fix my `pip` pain. | 16:00 |
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| kashyap | mdbooth: But, I should shamed publicly because, I (incorrectly) _thought_ I had some deps and didn't double-check them. So, I deserved the pain too. | 16:01 |
| jwcroppe_ | bauzas: scheduler utils's build_request_spec still puts the 'instance_properties' in there with the instance data - https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/utils.py#L73 | 16:02 |
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| artom | melwitt, alex_xu_, johnthetubaguy, mriedem could the all-tenants floating IPs spec get a final look over please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171389/ | 16:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova-specs: Virtual guest device role tagging https://review.openstack.org/195662 | 16:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: hypervisor support matrix: add feature "serial console" https://review.openstack.org/180912 | 16:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: hypervisor support matrix: add feature "evacuate" https://review.openstack.org/195648 | 16:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: hypervisor support matrix: add CLI commands to features https://review.openstack.org/195647 | 16:16 |
| markus_z | sorry for the spam, I rebased too interactive... | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: Adding user_id handling to keypair index, show and create api calls https://review.openstack.org/70485 | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: tests: functional tests for keypairs create in API microversion 2.5 https://review.openstack.org/183645 | 16:17 |
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| markus_z | mriedem: maybe you can have a look (stable/kilo patch): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186335/ | 16:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Eugeniya Kudryashova proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Raise exception when API does't support microversions https://review.openstack.org/188816 | 16:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eugeniya Kudryashova proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Raise exception when API does't support microversions https://review.openstack.org/188816 | 16:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Implements 'microversions' api type - Part 1 https://review.openstack.org/152569 | 16:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Implements 'microversions' api type - Part 2 https://review.openstack.org/167408 | 16:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ivan Mironov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Minimal qemu version for discard support depends on image backend. https://review.openstack.org/195672 | 16:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Implements 'microversions' api type - Part 1 https://review.openstack.org/152569 | 16:36 |
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| baoli | sdague: ping, RE: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179390/ | 16:38 |
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| baoli | sdague: please see my comments, and I'd appreciate your feedback on how to move it forward. thanks | 16:39 |
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| bauzas | jwcroppe_: sorry had to step out, but instance_props['uuid'] only relates the first instance | 16:45 |
| bauzas | jwcroppe_: which means that if you have 2 instances queried, then you would have 2 logs having the same uuid for 2 different instances, which would be not good | 16:45 |
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| jwcroppe_ | bauzas: good point - perhaps we could consider putting something in the request spec with all uuids... need to think | 16:50 |
| jwcroppe_ | bauzas: stepping away for a few | 16:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ivan Mironov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Minimal qemu version for discard support depends on image backend. https://review.openstack.org/195672 | 16:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | sulochan-acharya proposed openstack/nova: xapi: ensure pv driver info is present prior to live-migration https://review.openstack.org/189731 | 16:55 |
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| mdbooth | Is anybody using Sem-Ver pseudoheaders? | 17:09 |
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| mdbooth | Also, has anybody ever patched pbr out of Nova's setup.py? | 17:10 |
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| mdbooth | Wondering how much effort it was | 17:10 |
| mdbooth | i.e. how much do you lose by trying to rid yourself of pbr's versioning madness? | 17:10 |
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| mriedem | mdbooth: i doubt you gain much since it's in all projects now | 17:12 |
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| mriedem | mdbooth: so you'd have to do it universally | 17:12 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: This would be downstream-only | 17:12 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: i know | 17:12 |
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| mdbooth | I wonder... you might write a build tool which takes output from pbr and writes a static config which you can then edit for unreasonableness | 17:18 |
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| * mdbooth will look under the covers | 17:19 | |
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| mdbooth | Looks like it's already there: util.cfg_to_args() | 17:21 |
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| mriedem | mdbooth: my impression is that things are pretty tightly coupled with pbr being baked in so undoing might work for pbr 1.2 but could splode in 1.7 or 2.0, et | 17:27 |
| mriedem | *etc | 17:27 |
| mriedem | if there were bigger issues, like pluggability/overridabilty, effort might be better spent in getting that into pbr itself to enable whatever you need to do | 17:28 |
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| mdbooth | mriedem: I'm thinking it might be worth frigging an environment to make pbr.utils.cfg_to_args() not explode, and writing that as static config | 17:29 |
| mdbooth | And replacing setup.py with the static version | 17:29 |
| mdbooth | That way you could take the pain of pbr periodically, only when you make a setup change | 17:30 |
| mdbooth | Tomorrow... | 17:32 |
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| artom | melwitt, alex_xu_, johnthetubaguy, mriedem sorry for the spam, but I don't want the reason the spec didn't merge in liberty to be "the submitter didn't harass the cores enough." Could the all-tenants floating IPs spec get a final look over please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171389/ | 17:38 |
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| mriedem | artom: noted | 17:42 |
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| mriedem | artom: i'm reviewing other things today | 17:42 |
| mriedem | s/today/atm/ | 17:42 |
| mriedem | if this were a deli, i'd have a ticket thingy | 17:42 |
| mriedem | and i'd be eating a lot of salted meats, but that's beside the point | 17:43 |
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| mriedem | sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195606/ is failing jenkins mega hard | 17:52 |
| artom | mriedem, awesome, thanks :D | 17:52 |
| artom | I'm trying to riff on the deli smoked meat thing (since we're famous for it over here) but I'm coming up empty. | 17:53 |
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| beagles | artom: the bagels are pretty decent too | 17:57 |
| artom | beagles, food in general is pretty awesome :) | 17:59 |
| artom | You've been? | 17:59 |
| beagles | artom: long long time ago | 17:59 |
| edleafe | artom: where is there? | 18:00 |
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| artom | edleafe, Montreal. | 18:02 |
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| edleafe | artom: ah, yes. I was just there for PyCon. | 18:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: hypervisor support matrix: fix "evacuate" for s390 and hyper-v https://review.openstack.org/194730 | 18:04 |
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| mriedem | rlrossit: you add that hacking checking thing yet? | 18:05 |
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| mriedem | bauzas: you can probably +1 this now given the dependency https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190894/ | 18:08 |
| bauzas | mriedem: sure thing | 18:08 |
| bauzas | mriedem: done | 18:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Xinyuan Huang proposed openstack/nova-specs: Proposes passing network requests to scheduler https://review.openstack.org/195696 | 18:19 |
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| xyhuang | bauzas: We had some discussions about whether the above really needs a spec, I still doubt about this but I just wrote one anyway to explain and clarify in more details… for your reference. Please could you take a look if you have time. Thanks! | 18:19 |
| mriedem | jogo: isn't http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/tests/unit/virt/test_virt_drivers.py#n214 meant to test all interface methods on the ComputeDriver class? | 18:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Enable python34 tests for nova/tests/unit/objects/test*.py https://review.openstack.org/187785 | 18:33 |
| bauzas | xyhuang: sure thing, adding it to my review queue | 18:34 |
| xyhuang | bauzas: Thanks a lot! | 18:34 |
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| edleafe | jaypipes: hate to bug you, but after our discussion, can you remove your -1 from https://review.openstack.org/187739 ? | 18:37 |
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| edleafe | jaypipes: I'm sure that's discouraging anyone else from reviewing it. | 18:37 |
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| mriedem | so i'm going to ask a dumb bdm question, but can someone explain the significance of boot_index -1? | 18:39 |
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| dansmith | not bootable? | 18:39 |
| mriedem | idk | 18:39 |
| dansmith | I remember going round about that when I reviewed that code | 18:39 |
| mriedem | i kind of wish there was a nice comment in the code somewhere, probably bdm.boot_index field, about what the values are and their meaning | 18:40 |
| mriedem | i feel like a jackass asking otherwise | 18:40 |
| mriedem | like, is 0 or 1 root device? | 18:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Kicking the oslo.service tires https://review.openstack.org/192900 | 18:43 |
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| rlrossit | mriedem: I've been working on the hacking check and I think I'm close | 18:43 |
| rlrossit | mriedem: will we want to swap over spawn_n() too I assume? | 18:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make evacuate update the migration object along the way https://review.openstack.org/194373 | 18:44 |
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| mriedem | rlrossit: for eventlet? not sure | 18:45 |
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| rlrossit | I saw it in nova.utils also so I figured I would roll that in with it | 18:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maxim Nestratov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: rename parallels driver to virtuozzo https://review.openstack.org/184311 | 19:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Savage proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Added marker functionality to flavours and images https://review.openstack.org/193212 | 20:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Miguel Lavalle proposed openstack/nova-specs: Integrate DNS resolution with Neutron using Nova hostname https://review.openstack.org/90150 | 20:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Specify current directory during processutils.execute using new cwd param https://review.openstack.org/191604 | 20:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Specify current directory during processutils.execute using new cwd param https://review.openstack.org/191604 | 20:39 |
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| jogo | mriedem: want to review my pictures https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194840/ | 20:53 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: careful, lots of malware starts off with the same sort of phishing lure | 20:55 |
| jogo | dansmith: shhh don't give it away | 20:59 |
| dansmith | mriedem: jogo is a twenty-something dude in SFO. If he tells you anything different, don't send any money | 20:59 |
| jogo | lol | 21:00 |
| dansmith | jogo: we have to be careful.. mriedem runs windows, so clicking on links is really dangerous :) | 21:00 |
| jogo | haha I wonder if SVG graphics can be used to attack | 21:00 |
| dansmith | windows has had jpeg exploits before :) | 21:00 |
| jogo | SVG files contain a small JavaScript entry, which attackers exploited in the campaign observed by AppRiver to redirect victims to a webpage set up to push a piece of malware. | 21:01 |
| jogo | title: Cybercriminals Use SVG Files to Distribute Ransomware | 21:01 |
| dansmith | oof | 21:01 |
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| kashyap | dansmith: When you have a moment, would you mind taking a look at this unit test failure, and tell me what glaring mistake am I making there -- http://paste.openstack.org/show/321179/ | 21:08 |
| kashyap | The modified code is below the test run. | 21:09 |
| dansmith | just a sec | 21:10 |
| kashyap | Sure, no rush. It's an upstream backport of a fix by Matt (Riedemann). I bothered him on #openstack-stable, seems like he's afk. So, spamming you here. :-) | 21:11 |
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| dansmith | kashyap: I think you want to mock get_domain_info and not get_domain | 21:12 |
| dansmith | but it looks like it's already mocked to me | 21:12 |
| dansmith | presumably by fakelibvirt | 21:12 |
| dansmith | MagicMock name='get_domain().info().__getitem__() | 21:13 |
| dansmith | this tells you what it did | 21:13 |
| kashyap | I see, | 21:13 |
| dansmith | it called get_domain(), and then .info() on the return value from that, and then is doing [foo] on the result of that | 21:13 |
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| dansmith | and since you didn't set [foo] on the end thing, it's throwing a keyerror | 21:13 |
| kashyap | Yeah, realized the reason of KeyError. | 21:14 |
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| * kashyap is super illiterate on Mocks and MagicMocks, etc (was reading a bit about them earlier). | 21:14 | |
| kashyap | dansmith: Thanks, I'll test a bit more and get to this tomorrow. | 21:15 |
| dansmith | it's usually just something like you're missing a step in a chain of mocks, | 21:15 |
| dansmith | or doing it on the wrong mock | 21:15 |
| kashyap | Yeah, the original test is here - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181781/3/nova/tests/unit/virt/libvirt/test_driver.py,cm | 21:15 |
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| kashyap | The libvirt_guest is not present in stable/kilo | 21:16 |
| dansmith | oh, and I'm looking at the libvirt driver in master, | 21:16 |
| dansmith | so if it's a backport, knowing what changed is probably the key there | 21:16 |
| kashyap | Sorry for not providing the full context. | 21:16 |
| dansmith | ping mriedem tomorrow and he can probably point to it quicker, or I can help again tomorrow on a fresh brain | 21:17 |
| kashyap | dansmith: No worries. I just want to educate myself on these, hence the attempt. I know mriedem would do it in his sleep :-) | 21:17 |
| dansmith | sure, make him tell you, not fix it :) | 21:17 |
| kashyap | :-) /me heads off for the night. | 21:18 |
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| mriedem | what now? | 21:39 |
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| mriedem | and is leaving now | 21:39 |
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| mriedem | i'll just fix it :) | 21:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jesse J. Cook proposed openstack/nova: Cells: Add cells filter RamByInstanceTypeFilter https://review.openstack.org/195755 | 21:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse J. Cook proposed openstack/nova: Cells: limit slots by io_ops https://review.openstack.org/195756 | 21:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse J. Cook proposed openstack/nova: WIP: cells: weighted cell list randomization https://review.openstack.org/195757 | 21:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Rostecki proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Dedicate aggregates for specific tenants https://review.openstack.org/195783 | 23:03 |
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| tonyb | Has anyeon seen devstack (stable/juno) stalling trying to create images? | 23:09 |
| mikal | Huh, one hour until spec freeze according to my reading of the emails | 23:10 |
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| mikal | Guess I better do a last couple of reviews | 23:10 |
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| tonyb | mikal: go nuts. | 23:11 |
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