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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/191623 | 03:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/190034 | 06:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | wangxiyuan proposed openstack/nova: Add specific error information when createBackup is not supported https://review.openstack.org/187445 | 06:41 |
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| shihanzhang | hi all, who can help to review this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175742/ | 07:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed openstack/nova-specs: kilo: flavor-from-sysmeta-to-blob is implemented https://review.openstack.org/191091 | 07:35 |
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| alex_xu | oomichi: do you think this is ok for you https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187112/10 if we think this is general ok, then I will push ironic folks review it also. then hope we can merge it more early :) | 07:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova: Merge availability_zone tests between v2 and v2.1 https://review.openstack.org/171017 | 07:37 |
| garyk | shihanzhang: asking for reviews is so 80's :) | 07:38 |
| garyk | now we need to beg, borrow or steal… it is like a dessert out here | 07:39 |
| garyk | shihanzhang: my only concern with this is that this was added a few cycles ago as the guys from HP hit this issue in their cloud. | 07:40 |
| garyk | i think it would be nice if phil day could comment on this patch | 07:40 |
| gilliard | garyk: Phil's moved away from Nova a bit, but I'll add some people to the review. | 07:41 |
| garyk | gilliard: thanks for the heads up. | 07:41 |
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| garyk | shihanzhang: i have added in a comment - in general i am in favor of the patch. | 07:46 |
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| shihanzhang | garyk, I am reading | 07:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova: Merge availability_zone tests between v2 and v2.1 https://review.openstack.org/171017 | 07:55 |
| shihanzhang | garyk, I think the better solution is that neutron can provide a API like nova 'usage-list', but neutron doesn't has | 07:56 |
| garyk | shihanzhang: as far as i know salvatore is working on proviing a more robust quota interface on the neutron side of things. | 07:58 |
| garyk | so hopefully that will cover things :) | 07:58 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: thanks for updating, the overview seems good for me. especially, line 37-38 is very good for me | 07:59 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: I will take more time for reviewing later | 07:59 |
| shihanzhang | I has read this spec https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/better-quotas, it will not cover this | 08:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Madhuri Kumari proposed openstack/nova: Merge SchedulerHints functional tests of v2 and v2.1 https://review.openstack.org/167903 | 08:08 |
| sahid | jogo: hello, any chance you take a look at this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187089/ | 08:10 |
| sahid | sdague: ^ :) | 08:11 |
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| alex_xu | oomichi: thanks | 08:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova: Merge preserve_ephemeral_rebuild tests between v2 & v2.1 https://review.openstack.org/173284 | 08:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: hypervisor support matrix: add feature "serial console" https://review.openstack.org/180912 | 08:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: hypervisor support matrix: add status "unknown" https://review.openstack.org/191697 | 08:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: hypervisor support matrix: add feature "serial console" https://review.openstack.org/180912 | 08:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | shihanzhang: that looks like the patch is missing its blueprint, for the v2.1 work, its worth checking with alex_xu and oomichi how they are tracking those, I know I keep asking the priority groups to list their reviews in here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-priorities-tracking | 08:30 |
| lifeless | johnthetubaguy: what TZ are you in? | 08:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | lifeless: UK basically | 08:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eduard Biceri-Matei proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: New driver for volumes backed by local file. https://review.openstack.org/134134 | 08:33 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: a question about your api-wg spec for microversions | 08:34 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: yea, sure | 08:35 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: thanks. | 08:35 |
| lifeless | johnthetubaguy: ah! less surprising then to see you up :) | 08:35 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: did you aleady discuss which is min/max microversions header or body? | 08:35 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: there is mail thread, let me find link | 08:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | lifeless: lol, yeah, I am little later than most UK folks I guess, to give me another hour of overlap with US folks, it seems to happen if I make time for it or not | 08:36 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: I found it. | 08:37 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: cool...I'm too slow | 08:37 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: your mail was the first | 08:37 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: [api] [Nova] [Ironic] [Magnum] Microversion guideline in API-WG | 08:37 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: as my understand, the agreement is both have header and body | 08:37 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: but no agreemennt on the format of body yet | 08:38 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: ok, thanks. will investigate the thread more | 08:38 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: thanks a lot | 08:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova: Merge config_drive functional tests between v2 and v2.1 https://review.openstack.org/171029 | 08:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova: Merge disk-config func test between v2 and v2.1 https://review.openstack.org/171453 | 08:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova: Merge server rescue tests between v2 and v2.1 https://review.openstack.org/173651 | 08:48 |
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| sahid | oomichi: hello we have a fix ready to be merged i guess. can you take a look? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187089/ | 08:48 |
| bauwser | morning | 08:48 |
| bauwser | oops | 08:48 |
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| lxsli | morning | 08:48 |
| bauzas | just forgot to remove my batsuit | 08:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add tooz service group driver https://review.openstack.org/138607 | 08:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rodolfo Alonso proposed openstack/nova: Added new scheduler filter: AggregateTypeExtraSpecsAffinityFilter https://review.openstack.org/189279 | 09:03 |
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| oomichi | sahid: did it. I feel current code seems wrong. | 09:04 |
| oomichi | sahid: and I need to go back home right now. so I will see it again even if I was wrong. sorry about that. | 09:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexander Schmidt proposed openstack/nova: WIP: serial console: enable live migration https://review.openstack.org/191035 | 09:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova: Merge SchedulerHints functional tests of v2 and v2.1 https://review.openstack.org/167903 | 09:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | wangxiyuan proposed openstack/nova: Add specific error information when createBackup is not supported https://review.openstack.org/187445 | 09:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Rui Chen proposed openstack/nova: Fix resource leaking when consume_from_instance raise exception https://review.openstack.org/182165 | 09:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Sridhar Gaddam proposed openstack/nova: Fix noVNC console access for an IPv6 setup https://review.openstack.org/187089 | 09:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rui Chen proposed openstack/nova-specs: CreateVM supports subnet specified https://review.openstack.org/169638 | 09:41 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/191623 | 09:43 |
| kashyap | Hmm, so Libvirt KVM (s390x) can do evacuation of instances from host, but not Libvirt KVM x86 - http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/support-matrix.html | 09:43 |
| markus_z | kashyap: There is a ML discussion about that. I think x86 can do that too. | 09:44 |
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| kashyap | markus_z: If x86 can do that, then the above matrix should be updated. | 09:44 |
| markus_z | kashyap: I'm searching for the discussion, one second. | 09:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Rui Chen proposed openstack/nova-specs: CreateVM supports subnet specified https://review.openstack.org/169638 | 09:46 |
| markus_z | kashyap: ML: http://openstack.markmail.org/thread/nd37hdnop3zelzbk | 09:47 |
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| markus_z | kashyap: I was a bit unsure after I got no response. | 09:47 |
| kashyap | Thanks for the pointer, reading. | 09:47 |
| markus_z | kashyap: I'm going to lunch. Back in about 45 minutes if there are questions. | 09:49 |
| kashyap | Yep. | 09:50 |
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| kashyap | markus_z: When you're back - if you think for x86 the said feature should be work (as you say your manual tests are successful), you might want to submit a patch to correct that, with relevant notes. | 09:53 |
| kashyap | s/should be work/should work/ | 09:54 |
| sahid | danpb: hello, any chance to have your review here I have introduced new object and your comments can be really usefull https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190210/ | 09:54 |
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| bauzas | ndipanov: around for discussing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179224/6/specs/liberty/approved/check-destination-on-migrations.rst,cm ? | 10:00 |
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| ndipanov | bauzas, ugh doing several things but yeah shoot and I may just respond with a lag | 10:05 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: np, just wanted to discuss on how to check the scheduler when live-migrate or evacuate was having a dest host | 10:06 |
| bauzas | about the design | 10:07 |
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| bauzas | ndipanov: so, I was providing a separate method because I didn't wanted to provide a call to consume_from_instance() (and _schedule()) | 10:07 |
| ndipanov | imho that's wrong | 10:07 |
| ndipanov | as I explained on the review | 10:07 |
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| ndipanov | why don't we call consume_from_instance... ? we should | 10:08 |
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| ndipanov | if the caller plans to use the host which it does | 10:08 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: because it's just for *checking* :) | 10:08 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: if I'm providing select_dest() then yeah | 10:08 |
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| ndipanov | so checking is pointless | 10:09 |
| ndipanov | as we discussed previously | 10:09 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: meaning that this RPC method should be helping the operatoes | 10:09 |
| ndipanov | in the current design | 10:09 |
| ndipanov | how? | 10:09 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: I'm not that sure that it should be pointless | 10:09 |
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| bauzas | ndipanov: because for example, during the Summit, some people asked to have a way to call the scheduler to know how to have a capacity check | 10:10 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: for the moment, the backlog spec is not there, but it should probably be something like 'sched, give me how many hosts I have with that flavor' | 10:10 |
| ndipanov | well that is a completely different thing than what you are proposing here and trying to incorporate in a live mig workflow | 10:10 |
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| bauzas | ndipanov: what I'm trying to explain is that while I'm OK with claiming when we call the scheduler for booting, sometimes we just want to know if something is possible at the moment | 10:11 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: given that what's possible now won't be possibly possible in 5 mins | 10:12 |
| ndipanov | ok then that is a different problem | 10:12 |
| bauzas | later | 10:12 |
| ndipanov | that makes more sense - but not in the context of live migration | 10:13 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: fair point, like I said in my comment | 10:13 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: but do you understand that if we're going to your direction, it would call the scheduler anyway for claiming, even if the operator is providing a destination ? | 10:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova-specs: Scheduler Introduce lightwieght transactional model for HostState https://review.openstack.org/191226 | 10:14 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: again, that's fine by me, that's just a behavioural change | 10:14 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: meaning that sometimes, operators just want to migrate even if they know they will violate the rules | 10:15 |
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| bauzas | ndipanov: my point being, I'm not really against your design, just saying operators would just -1 it | 10:16 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: or, we should invert the logic, call the scheduler anyway even if providing a dest host, and provide a --force flag if we want to migrate anyway | 10:17 |
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| bauzas | ndipanov: with all the corrollars given by the 'force' thign | 10:17 |
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| bauzas | ndipanov: that way, it should be clearer : we're calling the scheduler in any cases, unless the operator explicitely wants to break the world | 10:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Carlos Gonçalves proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Support forcing service down https://review.openstack.org/185849 | 10:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Specify current directory during processutils.execute using new cwd param https://review.openstack.org/191604 | 10:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Ankit Agrawal proposed openstack/nova: Test patch race condition in delete (do not merge) https://review.openstack.org/191732 | 10:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Specify current directory during processutils.execute using new cwd param https://review.openstack.org/191604 | 10:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: enhance method to return pointer_model from image prop https://review.openstack.org/174854 | 10:24 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: deprecate use_usb_tablet in favor of pointer_model https://review.openstack.org/176242 | 10:24 |
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| bauzas | ndipanov: okay I need to go out for lunch, will update the spec with the above details | 10:31 |
| bauzas | (ie. call scheduler anyway using select_dest() - and claims - and provide a 'force' option for getting rid of it) | 10:32 |
| ndipanov | bauzas, adding a comment | 10:33 |
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| ndipanov | I may have missunderstood the point of this spec | 10:33 |
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| ndipanov | btw johnthetubaguy https://review.openstack.org/191226 as discussed | 10:37 |
| ndipanov | would appreciate your comments | 10:38 |
| PaulMurray | ndipanov, can we talk about your comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84048/ | 10:41 |
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| ndipanov | PaulMurray, yes :) | 10:42 |
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| ndipanov | but let me read what other people commented since | 10:42 |
| PaulMurray | ndipanov, firstly, sorry - we should have discussed this with you before now, I know you have an interest | 10:42 |
| ndipanov | PaulMurray, I do but sadly don't have the resources to get involved so I can only comment | 10:43 |
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| PaulMurray | ndipanov, its ok, we don't need you to do anything, just wanted you to be on board - there is more to it than just this patch | 10:43 |
| andrearosa | ndipanov: PaulMurray: thanks for reviewing the spec. Unfortunately in 15 mins I'll be off-line for a couple of hours but I'll read back the conversation when I am back | 10:44 |
| PaulMurray | ndipanov, we have cinder people in HP (and some others) that want to make the cinder api do the right thing | 10:45 |
| PaulMurray | ndipanov, and we want to change the nova code to fit - but that is not immediate - cinder needs to work out their side | 10:45 |
| ndipanov | PaulMurray, that sounds like the right direction - yes | 10:46 |
| PaulMurray | ndipanov, so we should end up with an interaction that does the kind of thing you describe and has better failure handling | 10:46 |
| PaulMurray | ndipanov, our problem is that right now we get stuck, so we want to add the force detach to get back into a known state | 10:47 |
| PaulMurray | we can do that now, but the long term plan is to do something better | 10:48 |
| ndipanov | PaulMurray, that is definitely worht mentioning in the spec! | 10:48 |
| PaulMurray | ndipanov, sorry, this was discussed in some depth with cinder people in the room at the summit, it certainly should be explained - yes | 10:49 |
| PaulMurray | ndipanov, would you be on board with that plan? | 10:49 |
| PaulMurray | i.e. if we explain that in the spec would you be for it? | 10:49 |
| ndipanov | PaulMurray, in principle :) | 10:51 |
| ndipanov | let me read the comments first and I'll ping you with questions | 10:51 |
| PaulMurray | ok | 10:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | wangxiyuan proposed openstack/nova: Add specific error information when createBackup is not supported https://review.openstack.org/187445 | 11:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: Add object models for comparing resource amounts https://review.openstack.org/128992 | 11:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: Adds resource type classes https://review.openstack.org/128999 | 11:23 |
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| jaypipes | lxsli: thx much for your comments on the above two patches! I've pushed fixes and explanations. | 11:28 |
| jaypipes | PaulMurray: mornin! | 11:28 |
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| jaypipes | PaulMurray: wanted to chat with you about this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188525/ | 11:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Remove and deprecate conductor task_log methods https://review.openstack.org/174247 | 11:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Remove unused compute utils methods https://review.openstack.org/174246 | 11:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Make instance usage audit use the brand new TaskLog object https://review.openstack.org/174245 | 11:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Add a TaskLog object https://review.openstack.org/174244 | 11:36 |
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| PaulMurray | hi jaypipes, I'm here | 11:49 |
| jaypipes | heyo :) | 11:50 |
| PaulMurray | jaypipes, I wanted to see what you were going to suggest | 11:50 |
| jaypipes | PaulMurray: fancy a hangout to get a little higher bandwidth comms? | 11:50 |
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| PaulMurray | jaypipes, sure - I'll have to go to a room, so put up a link and i'll be there in a minute | 11:51 |
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| jaypipes | lxsli: can you join a hangout with PaulMurray ? | 11:51 |
| alex_xu | sdague: would you like take a look this https://review.openstack.org/187112 when you wake up, if we think it is generic ok, I will push ironic to review it also, hope we can merge this early, then can begin to code the missing part in nova. | 11:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Added method exists to the Tag object https://review.openstack.org/178103 | 11:52 |
| sdague | alex_xu: yeh, I'll add it to my review queue today | 11:52 |
| jaypipes | alex_xu: hey, I've been doing my best to get through your devref patches and provide rviews. sorry for the delay on them, but I should have them all done today. | 11:53 |
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| jaypipes | lxsli, PaulMurray: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/gv6qyfayerqixvsqf5bufmux2ea?hl=en | 11:53 |
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| alex_xu | sdague: thanks | 11:54 |
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| alex_xu | jaypipes: thanks :) and there is start by sdague about bump mircoversion https://review.openstack.org/191188 | 11:55 |
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| jaypipes | alex_xu: yup, saw that one. | 11:55 |
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| alex_xu | sdague: ironic meeting is after 5 hours, if you can give feedback before that, I will try to join ironic meeting :) | 11:56 |
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| dheeraj-gupta-4 | Hi, can anyone tell me how the object hash values are computed in nova.tests.test_object E.g. - https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/unit/objects/test_objects.py#L1075? | 11:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/nova-specs: Nova API Microversions support in NovaClient https://review.openstack.org/188410 | 12:01 |
| sdague | alex_xu: I'll see. Do we have someone already working on the relaxation of the schema enforcement? | 12:01 |
| alex_xu | sdague: no, not yet, I can help on also | 12:03 |
| sdague | ok, that seems like the most important thing to get underway. | 12:03 |
| alex_xu | remove extension still need a spec yet | 12:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Maxim Nestratov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: rename parallels driver to virtuozzo https://review.openstack.org/184311 | 12:06 |
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| sdague | jaypipes / ndipanov / johnthetubaguy anyone up for +Aing a doc string patch that's 4 months old - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116623/12 - it's in some level of being picked to death, and we should either approve it, or abandon it. No one is going to own fixing it further I don't think (I tried to just clean up a past complaint to get it landed) | 12:09 |
| sdague | alex_xu: sure, but I think the version relaxation is the next most important thing | 12:09 |
| alex_xu | sdague: ok | 12:11 |
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| jaypipes | sdague: done | 12:16 |
| sdague | jaypipes: thanks | 12:20 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: curious, did we see any increase or decrease in job times with pymysql and nova (just saw your note about the neutron failures)? | 12:24 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: I didn't notice anything significant | 12:25 |
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| sdague | honestly, I'd be surprised if it exposed there | 12:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: yeah, I guess the DB performance isn't dominant in those tests | 12:26 |
| sdague | because our time is so dominated by guest boots | 12:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, makes sense | 12:26 |
| sdague | the large ops jobs might show something | 12:26 |
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| sdague | also, turbo hipster might be a good place to also try to test this | 12:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | I guess we run so many nova-conductors we avoid a lot of the locking too | 12:26 |
| sdague | right, which is it's own weirdness | 12:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: Add object models for comparing resource amounts https://review.openstack.org/128992 | 12:37 |
| jaypipes | lxsli: fixed ^ :) | 12:38 |
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| danpb | johnthetubaguy: was there any progress made at the summit wrt killing of nova-network, or is it still just a future aspiration | 12:40 |
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| bauzas | ndipanov: so I'm back and read your comment | 12:42 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: I think force_hosts is a separate problem IMHO | 12:43 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: my own perspective is that it should die with fire | 12:43 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: and not being done by the scheduler | 12:43 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: that's why I'm saying : | 12:43 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: 1/ make all the migrations calling the scheduler anyway (and will run the filters) | 12:44 |
| bauzas | (that still needs to be done once ReqSpec is persisted, for making sure the resource questions are valid) | 12:44 |
| bauzas | 2/ provide a way for operators for just breaking the rules, and IMHO, even for NUMA | 12:45 |
| jaypipes | danpb: future aspiration. something that (potentially) closes a bit of the gap: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184857/ | 12:45 |
| bauzas | (I would even say, in particular due to NUMA) | 12:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Remove/deprecate unused parts of the compute node object https://review.openstack.org/186757 | 12:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Make ComputeNode.service_id nullable to match db schema https://review.openstack.org/169284 | 12:46 |
| ndipanov | bauzas, well ok | 12:47 |
| ndipanov | but then at the very least you need to somehow mark those instances as - BROKE_POLICY | 12:47 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: I remember there is a bug related to force_hosts | 12:47 |
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| bauzas | ndipanov: instances belonging to the dest host ? | 12:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Avoid querying for Service in resource tracker https://review.openstack.org/169288 | 12:48 |
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| bauzas | ndipanov: I mean, that's a force flag, so a very explanatory help string should just say 'if you do that, make sure that you know what you do' | 12:48 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: because it's a cloud | 12:49 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: and CLI users shouldn't expect a distinct behaviour based on a specific enabled filter | 12:49 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: so, since it's an operator command, he has to know what to do, because he knows the filter | 12:50 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: anyway, your comments are really appreciated, because indeed my original proposal sucked | 12:51 |
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| danpb | jaypipes: ok, so it'll live on another cycle or two then | 12:52 |
| jaypipes | danpb: yes, apparently. | 12:52 |
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| lxsli | jaypipes: hiya, thanks for updates on resource object implementation. Could you take a peek at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188759/ please? | 13:01 |
| lxsli | jaypipes: ideal outcome is it gets squashed in | 13:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Remove configuration check https://review.openstack.org/191787 | 13:04 |
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| ndipanov | bauzas, hey was otp | 13:10 |
| ndipanov | so I think that "if operators want to break this they can" is not good enough | 13:11 |
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| ndipanov | there needs to be some kind of a record that this is happening | 13:11 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: I see | 13:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexandre Levine proposed openstack/nova-specs: user_data modification https://review.openstack.org/191791 | 13:11 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: like FORCED_ACTIVE ? | 13:11 |
| ndipanov | otherwise when there's more than 3 instances | 13:11 |
| ndipanov | no one can keep track of what was going on | 13:11 |
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| ndipanov | and they shouldn't really | 13:12 |
| ndipanov | that's exactly the job nova should do | 13:12 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: the question is, given I have 3 instances | 13:12 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: instA is on a host to be migrated | 13:12 |
| ndipanov | no I mean more than 3 instances that were forced | 13:12 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: instB and instC are on host2, but they are also pinned by CPU | 13:12 |
| andrearosa | hi | 13:12 |
| andrearosa | ]wrong window | 13:12 |
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| ndipanov | doesn't matter which is which or what policy is not being respected | 13:13 |
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| bauzas | ndipanov: given the operator would migrate instA without calling the scheduler, it would probably pin the instA vpcu up to a pCPU already taken by either instB or instC, right ? | 13:13 |
| ndipanov | just the fact that an operator would need to manually track that their users instances may not be giving them the features they asked for is something Nova should do | 13:13 |
| ndipanov | right | 13:13 |
| ndipanov | and that might be OK | 13:13 |
| ndipanov | for a short period of time or whatever | 13:14 |
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| ndipanov | but Nova should keep track of that and say - hey operator - this one instance is in breach of scheduling rules | 13:14 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: okay, so given instA is very critical and instB and instC are just low-prio, I can understand that ops want to migrate instA quickly | 13:14 |
| ndipanov | yes | 13:15 |
| ndipanov | that is a valid feature to ask for | 13:15 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: and potentially break instB and instC | 13:15 |
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| ndipanov | and I didn't understand that this is what you want to add | 13:15 |
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| ndipanov | so asking where can I do it | 13:15 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: so, my question is, you said we should keep track of that | 13:15 |
| ndipanov | yeah | 13:15 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: any idea about the best way to do such ? | 13:15 |
| ndipanov | if you force it - it should be recorded so that you can query forced instances later and reschedule them | 13:15 |
| ndipanov | bauzas, that's the spec propser's job :) | 13:16 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: instance-actions should perhaps be something to consider nope ? | 13:16 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: fair point man :) | 13:16 |
| ndipanov | well instance state could work too | 13:16 |
| ndipanov | which we would not show to the tenant user | 13:16 |
| ndipanov | but show to the admin user | 13:16 |
| ndipanov | or something like that | 13:16 |
| bauzas | okay, rewriting the spec atm, will consider that in the rewriting - need to think about it further | 13:17 |
| ndipanov | sure! | 13:17 |
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| ndipanov | jaypipes, you might as well appreciate this. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191226/ | 13:19 |
| jaypipes | lxsli: done. | 13:19 |
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| lxsli | jaypipes: great thanks, checking now | 13:19 |
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| bauzas | lxsli: jaypipes: thanks for squashing the two specs, would ease the reviews :) | 13:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Ankit Agrawal proposed openstack/nova: Test patch race condition in delete (do not merge) https://review.openstack.org/191732 | 13:21 |
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| sahid | jaypipes: hello, any news about the spec "resource templates" ? | 13:27 |
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| johnthetubaguy | danpb: in terms of killing nova-network, it feels further away than ever, frankly. There are more items for neutron to work on in terms of gaps | 13:29 |
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| pkholkin | hello guys, could somebody show a doc where is said that VMs in ERROR state consume resources? | 13:34 |
| pkholkin | we think that it is a feature but not a bug but we don't find any docs about it | 13:34 |
| lxsli | jaypipes: can you explain the difference between "class Cat", "class CatType" and "class CatSpec" to you please? | 13:34 |
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| lxsli | jaypipes: to me they are all classes, IE types | 13:35 |
| mriedem | pkholkin: i don't think there is any doc on that | 13:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Remove references to suds https://review.openstack.org/191795 | 13:35 |
| mriedem | instances in ERROR state will take up quota until they are deleted | 13:35 |
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| pkholkin | mriedem: should it be mentioned somewhere? maybe we should file a bug to docs? | 13:35 |
| oomichi | mriedem: hello | 13:36 |
| mriedem | pkholkin: you could probably push a change to nova's devref to add something in the state model section | 13:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Maxim Nestratov proposed openstack/nova-specs: libvirt: rename 'parallels' virt_type to 'vz' https://review.openstack.org/191797 | 13:36 |
| mriedem | pkholkin: would probably go in here somewhere http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/devref/vmstates.html | 13:37 |
| mriedem | oomichi: hi | 13:37 |
| oomichi | mriedem: can you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189541/ again ? | 13:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexander Schmidt proposed openstack/nova: serial console: enable live migration https://review.openstack.org/191035 | 13:40 |
| mriedem | oomichi: yeah | 13:40 |
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| oomichi | mriedem: thanks | 13:40 |
| pkholkin | mriedem: thanks a lot | 13:41 |
| mriedem | oomichi: comments inline | 13:41 |
| garyk | danpb: hi, would it be possible that you please look at https://review.openstack.org/188321 | 13:41 |
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| mriedem | pkholkin: maybe like a 'Notes' section in that page or something | 13:41 |
| danpb | garyk: sure | 13:42 |
| garyk | thanks | 13:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maxim Nestratov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: rename parallels driver to virtuozzo https://review.openstack.org/184311 | 13:43 |
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| superdan | this has been sitting for a while: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183331/ | 13:49 |
| superdan | and the patch above it, which I want to get in before I start working on further robustification | 13:49 |
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| jroll | that's a great word | 13:49 |
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| dansmith | :) | 13:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maxim Nestratov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: don't add filesystem disk to parallels containers unconditionally https://review.openstack.org/186858 | 13:54 |
| mriedem | danpb: kashyap: http://goo.gl/JMtH5S shows that with that libvirt destroy ebusy failure, in the slim chance that we retry 3 times and it passes, it's only happening on centos7/fc21 jobs with newer libvirt/qemu | 13:55 |
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| mriedem | 1.2.2 vs 1.2.8 (centos 7.1) or 1.2.9 (fc21) | 13:57 |
| kashyap | mriedem: Yeah, was just reading the comment and turned to IRC to check about that | 13:59 |
| lxsli | jaypipes: aha, I see Spec is short for Specifier not Specification | 14:00 |
| lxsli | jaypipes: still it adds nothing | 14:01 |
| kashyap | mriedem: 1.2.2 is from Mar-2014, there have been 16 libvirt releases after that, so your comment " something working better in newer versions of qemu/libvirt here" is most likely it :-) | 14:01 |
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| dansmith | (master)% git branch | wc -l | 14:08 |
| dansmith | 165 | 14:08 |
| * dansmith needs to do some cleanup | 14:08 | |
| alaski | 64 for me. I need to do some coding | 14:09 |
| andrearosa | lol | 14:09 |
| dansmith | heh | 14:09 |
| * bauzas proposes git branch -r --merged origin/stable | 14:11 | |
| alaski | dansmith: I was going to wait until melwitt was around to share the good news, but you'll appreciate it as well | 14:11 |
| claudiub | johnthetubaguy: hi. You had a +2 on this spec previously. A new patchset has been sent to address your previous comments. Can you take a look? :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175422/ | 14:11 |
| alaski | since her patch merged there have been two cells job failures, both because the code caused mutliple jobs to fail | 14:11 |
| dansmith | alaski: woot! | 14:11 |
| dansmith | that's fantastic | 14:11 |
| alaski | yeah, freaking awesome | 14:12 |
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| bauzas | can I just say \o/ | 14:12 |
| bauzas | ? | 14:12 |
| * bauzas is shy | 14:12 | |
| alaski | heh | 14:12 |
| * lxsli throws hands in the air like he just don't care. | 14:13 | |
| mriedem | alaski: are you going to push a change to project-config to make the job voting then? | 14:13 |
| mriedem | probably should | 14:13 |
| mriedem | note that it also runs on glance and cinder changes i think, unless that's the devstack exercises job... | 14:13 |
| alaski | I'll let melwitt have the honor | 14:14 |
| alaski | but it would be good to get that up today for review | 14:14 |
| sahid | ndipanov: if you want to +W https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187089/ now :) | 14:14 |
| edleafe | alaski: melwitt: that's awesome! | 14:15 |
| bauzas | alaski: so, I'm sorry because I had zero time to work on the job failure | 14:16 |
| bauzas | alaski: but is it still accurate ? | 14:16 |
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| alaski | bauzas: no worries, you contributed quite a bit to get to this point as well | 14:18 |
| alaski | bauzas: is what still accurate? | 14:18 |
| bauzas | alaski: I had a bug to look at | 14:19 |
| bauzas | alaski: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2015/nova_cells.2015-06-03-17.00.log.html https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1448302 | 14:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1448302 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "cells: intermittent KeyError when deleting instance metadata" [Low,Confirmed] | 14:20 |
| alaski | bauzas: ahh. according to logstash it's still happening. it isn't a failure though | 14:21 |
| bauzas | alaski: fair point, will dig into then | 14:21 |
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| markus_z | kashyap: sorry, I missed your message about the evacuate feature. I'll test it again and change the matrix if the test was successful. | 14:23 |
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| kashyap | mriedem: No worries; thanks. | 14:24 |
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| kashyap | mriedem: Your unanswered question -- "Maybe we could change the timeouts based on libvirt version?" So you mean, setting VIR_ERR_OPERATION_TIMEOUT for 150 or so depending on version? | 14:26 |
| mriedem | kashyap: well, i mean changing the attempt limit in the libvirt driver code based on libvirt version | 14:27 |
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| kashyap | mriedem: Ah, okay - first I guessed the same, wrongly corrected myself. | 14:27 |
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| kashyap | Since your tests prove that helps, your suggestion sounds good, fwiw. | 14:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova-specs: Scheduler Introduce lightwieght transactional model for HostState https://review.openstack.org/191226 | 14:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Remove openstack/common/versionutils module https://review.openstack.org/189118 | 14:32 |
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| andrearosa | I heard that nova has a plan for using os-brick, is that true? any ref you can share with me, please? | 14:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova-specs: Amend resource objects proposal https://review.openstack.org/188759 | 14:49 |
| mriedem | andrearosa: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/liberty/approved/use-os-brick-library.html | 14:49 |
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| johnthetubaguy | alaski: awesome news on the cells testing front :D | 14:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova-specs: Proposes to check destination on migrations https://review.openstack.org/179224 | 14:53 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: ndipanov: alaski: ^^ I think you should be interested in https://review.openstack.org/179224 | 14:53 |
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| alaski | bauzas: cool, added to the queue | 14:54 |
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| bauzas | alaski: (mainly because it adds a new field to the Spec) | 14:54 |
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| bauzas | sorry for bugging you folks, but we're close to Lib-1 :) | 14:54 |
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| andrearosa | mriedem: thanks | 14:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Pavlov proposed openstack/nova: template for disabe_terminate and shutdown_terminate flags https://review.openstack.org/189112 | 15:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Pavlov proposed openstack/nova: Repairing disabe_terminate and shutdown_terminate flags https://review.openstack.org/189112 | 15:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Mikhail Feoktistov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: virtuozzo instance resize support https://review.openstack.org/182257 | 15:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Pavlov proposed openstack/nova: Repairing disable_terminate and shutdown_terminate flags https://review.openstack.org/189112 | 15:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Pavlov proposed openstack/nova: Repairing disable_terminate and shutdown_terminate flags https://review.openstack.org/189112 | 15:44 |
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| kfox1111 | Any further thoughts on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186617 ? | 15:50 |
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| kfox1111 | I'd really like to get into implementing it if the general theory is ok. | 15:50 |
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| johnthetubaguy | kfox1111: it would be great to get some votes on that spec from some keystone and barbican folks | 15:55 |
| kfox1111 | the silo'd nature of openstack's making that somewhat difficult. :/ | 15:56 |
| kfox1111 | the barbican guys where the ones to encurage the instance user concept in the first place. | 15:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add the oslo_db enginefacade proposal https://review.openstack.org/150434 | 15:56 |
| kfox1111 | I'll see if I can get them to do some +1's though. I think they've been reluctant to talk about implementation details for a project not their own. | 15:56 |
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| mnestratov | johnthetubaguy: Hi. I've made a spec for "parallels to vz renaming" blueprint as you suggested, could you please take a look at it? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191797/ | 15:57 |
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| bauzas | PaulMurray: still around ? I have a question about a local failing py27 test that you introduced | 15:59 |
| PaulMurray | bauzas, yo | 15:59 |
| bauzas | PaulMurray: hey | 16:00 |
| bauzas | PaulMurray: so http://paste.openstack.org/show/294340/ | 16:00 |
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| bauzas | PaulMurray: but my change is not impacting this test IIUC | 16:00 |
| bauzas | PaulMurray: http://paste.openstack.org/show/294341/ | 16:01 |
| PaulMurray | interesting | 16:01 |
| danpb | dansmith: ping - got a question about versioning of objects when you have subclassing | 16:02 |
| danpb | dansmith: eg consider this set of 4 objects http://paste.fedoraproject.org/232215/83391143/ | 16:02 |
| bauzas | PaulMurray: so the question is, am I blind ? | 16:02 |
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| dansmith | danpb: I'm jumping on a call, can we chat in +60m? | 16:03 |
| bauzas | PaulMurray: (note it comes from a rebase) | 16:03 |
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| danpb | dansmith: sure | 16:03 |
| PaulMurray | do you mind if I look at the patch? | 16:03 |
| dansmith | thanks | 16:03 |
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| danpb | dansmith: my Q's are inline in that pastebin when you get time | 16:04 |
| dansmith | danpb: okay, I'll queue it up | 16:04 |
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| bauzas | PaulMurray: just wondering if that's not due to https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/07c93c897e60a6eb9487dc770522e1424794ee34 | 16:08 |
| bauzas | PaulMurray: checking my local master branch | 16:08 |
| lxsli | dansmith: quickly re: your qs about no-more-soft-delete - is it enough to say EG "fixed_ip_disassociate" is used by Nova network, or do you want to know all the calls? | 16:08 |
| lxsli | dansmith: the latter will take quite some time | 16:09 |
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| mriedem | danpb: when dan and i were talking about this last week for https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1geSKQXz4SqfXllq1Pk5o2YVCycZVf_i6ThY88r9YF4A/edit?usp=sharing it sounded like any time any of the subclasses change you bump the version on the parent | 16:10 |
| bauzas | dansmith: PaulMurray: confirmed, the regression is on master | 16:10 |
| mriedem | danpb: so essentially the version changes for all | 16:10 |
| bauzas | PaulMurray: dansmith: http://paste.openstack.org/show/294340/ | 16:10 |
| PaulMurray | bauzas, I can reproduce it from master | 16:10 |
| bauzas | PaulMurray: yup, Houston we have a problem | 16:10 |
| mriedem | bauzas: PaulMurray: is it failing in the jenkins jobs? | 16:11 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: checking | 16:11 |
| danpb | mriedem: in my case that means you essentially end up with one single version for a huge set of objects, which felt sub-optimal | 16:11 |
| mriedem | danpb: yeah | 16:12 |
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| mriedem | bauzas: not seeing it in jenkins | 16:12 |
| bauzas | mriedem: strange http://logstash.openstack.org/#eyJzZWFyY2giOiJtZXNzYWdlOlwiT2JqZWN0cyB0aGF0IGRpZmZlciBpbiBhbnkgZmllbGQgc2hvdWxkIG5vdCBiZSBlcXVhbFwiIEFORCB0YWdzOlwiY29uc29sZS5odG1sXCIiLCJmaWVsZHMiOltdLCJvZmZzZXQiOjAsInRpbWVmcmFtZSI6IjE0NDAwIiwiZ3JhcGhtb2RlIjoiY291bnQiLCJ0aW1lIjp7InVzZXJfaW50ZXJ2YWwiOjB9LCJzdGFtcCI6MTQzNDM4NDczNTk0NH0= | 16:12 |
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| mriedem | bauzas: PaulMurray: are you guys working on a shared topic branch that has a race? | 16:12 |
| mriedem | or some issue | 16:12 |
| bauzas | mriedem: so PaulMurray and I can reproduce the bug on our local branches | 16:12 |
| bauzas | mriedem: on the local master branch, updated 5 min ago | 16:13 |
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| mriedem | let me see if i can recreate | 16:13 |
| PaulMurray | mriedem, I checked out master and found the test failed | 16:13 |
| PaulMurray | I'm checking what the bug is | 16:14 |
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| bauzas | trying to bisect it | 16:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Uitlize object directly of instance and flavor https://review.openstack.org/185068 | 16:18 |
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| PaulMurray | mriedem, bauzas it looks like its in obj_to_primitive() it is always returning false for obj_attr_is_set() | 16:20 |
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| jaypipes | sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191188/ reviewed. thx! | 16:20 |
| PaulMurray | mriedem, bauzas in the test that is failing | 16:21 |
| bauzas | b9bae02af2168ad64d3b3d28c97c3853cee73272 | 16:21 |
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| bauzas | [d95c05a8fd2f762765408b9cf84da7c8d34a7892] Replace metaclass registry with explicit opt-in registry from oslo | 16:21 |
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| bauzas | that one ^ is the faulty one | 16:21 |
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| bauzas | PaulMurray: mriedem | 16:23 |
| bauzas | ^ | 16:23 |
| cfriesen | can we get another approver to take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190359/ ? This fixes a bug that we saw in the lab. | 16:23 |
| mriedem | still recreating tox venv | 16:23 |
| cfriesen | Simple fix, quick review | 16:23 |
| bauzas | so, sounds like I need to go babysitting :/ | 16:24 |
| bauzas | my ears are just suffering | 16:24 |
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| sdague | jaypipes: cool, i'll take another run at that shortly | 16:27 |
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| jaypipes | PaulMurray: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160942/ reviewed. | 16:41 |
| PaulMurray | thanks jaypipes - I'll go though it | 16:41 |
| jaypipes | np | 16:41 |
| PaulMurray | s/though/through/ | 16:42 |
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| mriedem | bauzas: PaulMurray: i hit the same test failure btw | 16:48 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: so the question is, why Jenkins doesn't see it ? | 16:48 |
| mriedem | bauzas: PaulMurray: did either of you report a bug? | 16:48 |
| bauzas | mriedem: not yet, babysitting feeding time | 16:49 |
| bauzas | those are like sharks when they're hungry | 16:49 |
| mriedem | yeah, np, i'll poke around | 16:49 |
| PaulMurray | mriedem, bauzas not yet either - is this not happening in the check jobs? | 16:49 |
| mriedem | PaulMurray: nope | 16:49 |
| mriedem | reverting d95c05a8fd2f762765408b9cf84da7c8d34a7892 fixed it for me locally | 16:49 |
| bauzas | PaulMurray: logstash is silent on it | 16:49 |
| bauzas | mriedem: agreed, my bisect is showing it bad | 16:50 |
| PaulMurray | mriedem, noticed that the names are not getting mangled - the change should be prefixing them with _obj_ | 16:50 |
| PaulMurray | mriedem, before that change it was using _ | 16:50 |
| bauzas | mriedem: that said, I'd rather prefer not to revert it but skip the faulty test | 16:50 |
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| PaulMurray | mriedem, it must be the metaclass being applied | 16:51 |
| bauzas | mriedem: since the related change is far more important than PaulMurray's test, with all my respects to you Paul :) | 16:51 |
| PaulMurray | bauzas, its not the test that is failing - the underlying objects code is wrong | 16:51 |
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| PaulMurray | or rather - the object code is causing the test to fail | 16:52 |
| bauzas | okay, that's what happens when your brain is dumped by a crying baby | 16:52 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: around ? see ^^^ | 16:52 |
| PaulMurray | so the change you pointed out changed the metaclass - I think that is the problem | 16:53 |
| bauzas | mriedem: I'm gonna create the bug, did you ? | 16:53 |
| mriedem | not yet | 16:53 |
| bauzas | ok doing | 16:54 |
| PaulMurray | bauzas, the problem is that in that test the obj_to_primitive() is creating empty primitives - so whatever you compare they are equal (so long as same object type) | 16:54 |
| PaulMurray | I can add that to the bug if you like | 16:54 |
| PaulMurray | bauzas, the reason is the name managling isn't happening correctly | 16:55 |
| ndipanov | edleafe, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191226/ revisit pls | 16:55 |
| PaulMurray | bauzas, I'm guessing this is something environmental to do oslo versioned objects so it only happens locally | 16:55 |
| PaulMurray | bauzas, I can't tell how the metaclass is picked up (if any is?) | 16:56 |
| mriedem | PaulMurray: jenkins is running with o.vo 0.4.0 and so is my local tox | 16:56 |
| mriedem | the only differences i saw with my local and jenkins py27 run was versions of pip and tox, and i don't see how that would matter | 16:56 |
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| bauzas | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1465344 set to High as the CI is not (yet?) impacted | 16:57 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1465344 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "TestObjEqualPrims.test_object_not_equal is failing" [High,Confirmed] | 16:57 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: I upated my venv right before yelling at it here | 16:58 |
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| PaulMurray | bauzas, guess what - I just updated my venv and now it works for me ! | 16:59 |
| PaulMurray | mriedem, ^^ | 16:59 |
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| PaulMurray | mriedem, bauzas ah - interesting - no it didn't | 17:01 |
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| PaulMurray | I was on a branch I just pulled down using git review -d | 17:01 |
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| PaulMurray | yeah - that needed rebasing - so it does fail | 17:03 |
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| bauzas | PaulMurray: as I said, before asking for help here, I made a ./run_tests.sh -u | 17:07 |
| bauzas | PaulMurray: not a full venv recreate, but still updating my reqs | 17:07 |
| bauzas | PaulMurray: that said, I can verify both o.voo versions between my venv and what Jenkins pulls | 17:07 |
| PaulMurray | bauzas, yes - I tried it again to be sure and forgot I had switched branches - duh - its getting to the end of a long day | 17:08 |
| bauzas | PaulMurray: so, my test fails with o.voo 0.4.0 | 17:08 |
| vilobhmm | jaypipes : need your opinion on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190322/...whenever you have time | 17:08 |
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| bauzas | PaulMurray: and the same goes for Jenkins but passes | 17:10 |
| dansmith | bauzas: something is still using _name ? | 17:10 |
| bauzas | dansmith: you mean in the TestCase ? | 17:10 |
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| dansmith | bauzas: not sure what you're saying | 17:11 |
| bauzas | dansmith: heh, not sure you too | 17:11 |
| bauzas | :) | 17:11 |
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| dansmith | bauzas: are you saying this is happening in CI? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1465344 | 17:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1465344 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "TestObjEqualPrims.test_object_not_equal is failing" [High,Confirmed] | 17:12 |
| bauzas | dansmith: no, that's why it's not a critical one | 17:12 |
| bauzas | dansmith: I'm trying to see the diffs between my venv and Jenkins | 17:13 |
| vilobhmm | melwitt : i think i have addressed most of your questions here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190322/7/specs/liberty/approved/servicegroup-api-control-plane.rst …please check | 17:14 |
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| PaulMurray | dansmith, I added a comment to the bug report | 17:14 |
| dansmith | danpb: no, I don't think we need to register the abstract base | 17:14 |
| vilobhmm | melwitt : all of your questions* | 17:14 |
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| PaulMurray | dansmith, seems to me that the object fields are not getting the prefix when set, so they are not found by the getter | 17:15 |
| dansmith | PaulMurray: okay, the thing responsible for that has moved | 17:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eugeniya Kudryashova proposed openstack/nova: Raise correct exception https://review.openstack.org/191909 | 17:16 |
| dansmith | PaulMurray: I don't think so, let me show you a paste | 17:16 |
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| dansmith | PaulMurray: http://pastebin.com/MET94mu8 | 17:17 |
| bauzas | I can try a full venv recreate to mimic Jenkins | 17:17 |
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| jaypipes | lxsli: ^ | 17:24 |
| PaulMurray | dansmith, I think I might have something - I use the test object called MyObj | 17:24 |
| PaulMurray | dansmith, it looks like that is now registered in _BaseTestCase | 17:25 |
| ndipanov | jaypipes, since you're the scheduler leader - would really appreciate thoughts on this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191226/ (not sure you got the ping this AM) | 17:25 |
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| jaypipes | ndipanov: yes, I did. sorry, it's in the backlog... | 17:26 |
| PaulMurray | dansmith, but the test class I used doesn't extend that - it extends tests.NoDbTestCase | 17:26 |
| dansmith | PaulMurray: ah, yep! | 17:26 |
| PaulMurray | dansmith, would that make a difference? | 17:26 |
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| dansmith | PaulMurray: yes, so you don't get any of the special goo around property handling if you don't register | 17:26 |
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| dansmith | PaulMurray: what you want to do is either inherit that base, or you can now call register_if(False), which won't actually register you, but will do the rest of the object initialization | 17:27 |
| bauzas | PaulMurray: got it, that's the reset_changes() | 17:27 |
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| dansmith | PaulMurray: I would have fixed it when I hit it during testing that change, but obviously I wasn't seeing it on my side etiher | 17:27 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: PaulMurray: if not calling obj.reset_changes() then the assert is correct | 17:28 |
| PaulMurray | dansmith, bauzas shall I knock up a quick patch then | 17:28 |
| bauzas | oh nvm | 17:28 |
| bauzas | I'm just confounding True and Flase | 17:29 |
| dansmith | PaulMurray: cool, thanks.. good detective work | 17:29 |
| bauzas | so the test should inherit from _BaseTest? | 17:29 |
| dansmith | that's one option | 17:29 |
| bauzas | now, the biggest question is : we know that's wrong, but why Jenkins is still happy ? | 17:30 |
| dansmith | bauzas: well, if it runs on the same worker, | 17:31 |
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| dansmith | then MyObj will have been initialized by the run of one of the other bases | 17:31 |
| dansmith | if it's on another worker, then not | 17:31 |
| mriedem | so run it locally with --concurrency=1 | 17:32 |
| mriedem | that doesn't help | 17:33 |
| dansmith | right, that makes sure you won't hit the problem | 17:34 |
| mriedem | i hit it locally either way | 17:34 |
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| bauzas | I can try to run with nosetests and see | 17:35 |
| bauzas | or at least not using testr rather | 17:35 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: well, if it runs first in the same worker, then still broken | 17:35 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: Jenkins is running testr, right? using multiple workers, right? | 17:38 |
| dansmith | bauzas: yeah | 17:38 |
| bauzas | dansmith: so we should predictably say that there would be at least a very small but still there amount of failures | 17:38 |
| edleafe | ndipanov: updated my comments. Thanks for the explanation | 17:38 |
| bauzas | dansmith: what just worries me is that logstash is perfectly silent over the last 6 hours | 17:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Murray proposed openstack/nova: Fix TestObjEqualPrims test object registration https://review.openstack.org/191911 | 17:39 |
| bauzas | unless my query is wrong... /cc mriedem http://logstash.openstack.org/#eyJzZWFyY2giOiJtZXNzYWdlOlwiT2JqZWN0cyB0aGF0IGRpZmZlciBpbiBhbnkgZmllbGQgc2hvdWxkIG5vdCBiZSBlcXVhbFwiIEFORCB0YWdzOlwiY29uc29sZS5odG1sXCIiLCJmaWVsZHMiOltdLCJvZmZzZXQiOjAsInRpbWVmcmFtZSI6IjQzMjAwIiwiZ3JhcGhtb2RlIjoiY291bnQiLCJ0aW1lIjp7InVzZXJfaW50ZXJ2YWwiOjB9LCJzdGFtcCI6MTQzNDM4OTk5MDM1NH0= | 17:40 |
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| mriedem | bauzas: no i didn't get any hits either | 17:40 |
| PaulMurray | dansmith, mriedem ^^^ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191911/ | 17:40 |
| dansmith | bauzas: I don't think it's surprising | 17:40 |
| dansmith | bauzas: there are many more tests where it is registered | 17:41 |
| bauzas | I see | 17:41 |
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| dansmith | bauzas: so it's very unlikely that in the same repeatable environment it never runs before one that has registered that object | 17:41 |
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| dansmith | PaulMurray: thanks | 17:41 |
| bauzas | anyway, testing PaulMurray's patch | 17:42 |
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| mriedem | fixed it for me locally, approved | 17:42 |
| bauzas | as well | 17:43 |
| bauzas | okay, PaulMurray, thanks | 17:43 |
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| bauzas | need to drop off now | 17:43 |
| bauzas | seeya | 17:43 |
| PaulMurray | bauzas, dansmith mriedem cheers guys - I'm off home | 17:43 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: are you going to be able to handle lemon chicken, pasta bar and beef stir fry for the meetup? | 19:15 |
| dansmith | mriedem: hah, yeah, thanks | 19:16 |
| dansmith | assume that could have been a private query, but not nearly as embarrassing for me, so... nicely played. | 19:16 |
| mriedem | correct | 19:16 |
| dansmith | heh | 19:17 |
| mriedem | i wasn't at the kilo meetup at vmware but assume the table arrangement was like intel with pods | 19:18 |
| dansmith | nope | 19:18 |
| dansmith | just a big thing down the middle | 19:18 |
| dansmith | like two-tables wide, but the length of the room | 19:18 |
| dansmith | it worked well | 19:18 |
| mriedem | oh, well, i think there is a column in the way of that working | 19:19 |
| dansmith | in intel, it was pretty far to shout to someone all the way on the other side of the room | 19:19 |
| dansmith | oh wonderful | 19:19 |
| dansmith | I had the joy of working at an IBM building not designed by IBM | 19:19 |
| dansmith | so we didn't have columns in the middles of rooms and the ceiling were higher than 5'10" | 19:19 |
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| mriedem | well, the other adjacent room was already reserved, there wouldn't have been a column that way | 19:20 |
| dansmith | and more angles than just 90, 180, and 270 :) | 19:20 |
| dansmith | heh | 19:20 |
| mriedem | i figured table pods was at least better than classroom style so i'm not staring at the back of someone's head | 19:21 |
| dansmith | yeah | 19:22 |
| mriedem | we have another bigger room where that could work, but it's not wired the same way, so that would suck | 19:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Revert "Allow admin user to get all tenant's floating IPs" https://review.openstack.org/191941 | 19:27 |
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| bauzas | ndipanov: still around ? | 19:45 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: uh, late for you | 19:45 |
| cfriesen | so currently cold migration/resize uses passwordless ssh between compute nodes to determine whether or not it's on shared storage. As far as I know this is the only user of passwordless ssh (if using libvirt tunneling which is the default). Is there any interest in switching it to use RPC like live migration? | 19:46 |
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| bauzas | ndipanov: just wanted to discuss about your opinion on a vm state for forced hosts | 19:47 |
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| bauzas | ndipanov: no worries if you can't, let's ping back on tomorrow | 19:47 |
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| melwitt | cfriesen: I think there is interest. it's one of the feedback from operators that has come up several times https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-ops-nova and there are deployments where ssh between compute nodes is not allowed for security reasons, and such deployments are unable to use cold migrate because of it | 19:49 |
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| dansmith | cfriesen: we use the ssh connection to move the image if not on shared storage, right? | 20:11 |
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| cfriesen | melwitt: good to know about the operators. dansmith: essentially, yes....it'll use rsync or scp to copy the image over. (it uses ssh directly for checking if on shared storage and for creating/deleting the remote directory) | 20:36 |
| dansmith | melwitt: right, there's nothing "secure" about what we require in the way of ssh | 20:36 |
| dansmith | melwitt: there is the "passwordless ssh" problem, and also the "any compute node talks to any other compute node" problem | 20:37 |
| dansmith | cfriesen: right, so removing passwordless ssh just for the shared check doesn't get you anything, right? | 20:37 |
| cfriesen | dansmith: yeah, we'd have to figure out how to do the image transport | 20:38 |
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| dansmith | definitely not doing that over rpc, so, yeah, that's an important detail :) | 20:38 |
| cfriesen | dansmith: how about rsh? :) | 20:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Remove openstack/common/versionutils module https://review.openstack.org/189118 | 20:40 |
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| cfriesen | melwitt: dansmith: do we need to be able to operation in an environment where we don't trust the path between the compute nodes? If so then it seems like we'd need some sort of key sharing no matter what solution is used. | 20:48 |
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| dansmith | cfriesen: well, we have that today, in a static form | 20:50 |
| dansmith | cfriesen: but yeah, I don't think we can do host-based auth, if that's what you mean.. that's the complaint about the current approach of course | 20:50 |
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| cfriesen | melwitt: how do the operators that don't allow ssh handle live-migration? | 20:51 |
| dansmith | cfriesen: you mean migration, right? | 20:51 |
| dansmith | either way, the ones that are concerned about that don't allow it | 20:51 |
| dansmith | or regular migration | 20:52 |
| cfriesen | dansmith: no, live migration. (since it has encryption options too) | 20:52 |
| dansmith | live migration can be done all with libvirt TLS auth and encryption, right? | 20:52 |
| flwang | jaypipes: ping | 20:52 |
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| cfriesen | dansmith: yeah. I was wondering if that was okay since it wasn't using generic ssh | 20:52 |
| dansmith | that's much more secure than passwordless ssh | 20:53 |
| dansmith | that helps, | 20:53 |
| jaypipes | flwang: just about to start a couple hours of meetings :( | 20:53 |
| dansmith | but doesn't address the people that want to not have any communication between compute nodes | 20:53 |
| jaypipes | flwang: I did not create the spec for the glance_store and move to v2 glance API work :( | 20:53 |
| flwang | :( ok, I will catch up with you later | 20:53 |
| flwang | jaypipes: ok, just wanna let you know, i'm rebasing the flaper87's patch | 20:54 |
| flwang | and I have fixed most of the failed cases | 20:54 |
| flwang | meanwhile, i'm pushing the changes-since work on glance side | 20:54 |
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| jaypipes | flwang: awesome. link me the patch and I will try to get to a review. | 20:55 |
| flwang | hope we can make jenkins happy by the end of this month | 20:55 |
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| cfriesen | dansmith: If they don't want any communication between compute nodes, what do they expect? Bounce the whole migration off the controller? Also, why do we have a distinction between cold migration and live-migration-without-VIR_MIGRATE_LIVE? | 20:55 |
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| flwang | jaypipes: https://review.openstack.org/144875 | 20:55 |
| jaypipes | cheers | 20:55 |
| cfriesen | dansmith: or rather virDomainMigrate() without VIR_MIGRATE_LIVE | 20:56 |
| dansmith | cfriesen: yeah, that sort of thing has been suggested (using a proxy). However, many of them don't care because it's not a thing they need | 20:56 |
| flwang | jaypipes: np | 20:56 |
| cfriesen | dansmith: okay, fair enough | 20:56 |
| dansmith | cfriesen: well, lots of reasons, but for one: live migration is in-place and regular migration is not | 20:56 |
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| dansmith | cfriesen: that was in answer to the libvirt question | 20:58 |
| dansmith | cfriesen: the reasons they're not unified is "because they're not", not really for any good reason I think | 20:59 |
| dansmith | other than the fact that they do different things | 20:59 |
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| cfriesen | dansmith: functionally speaking they're close, virDomainMigrate() just pauses the instance instead of shutting it down. But the existing cold migration path is probably more generic across hypervisors. | 21:10 |
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| dansmith | cfriesen: the current one is almost hypervisor agnostic, yeah | 21:14 |
| dansmith | cfriesen: virdomainmigrate can be made to leave the instance unchanged on the source machine? | 21:15 |
| dansmith | cfriesen: and make it runnable on the destination at the same time/ | 21:15 |
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| cfriesen | dansmith: yeah...VIR_MIGRATE_UNDEFINE_SOURCE controls whether you delete the source or not | 21:18 |
| dansmith | okay | 21:18 |
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| dansmith | I think we undefine the domain during a normal migration, right? | 21:19 |
| dansmith | I guess as long as no disks are removed, we could still allow undefine_source and use the live mechanism | 21:19 |
| dansmith | anyway, it's been proposed before, and would probably be a welcome change for some, but it'd require refactoring the existing stuff to allow for that possibility | 21:19 |
| cfriesen | dansmith: yes, default live migration settings are VIR_MIGRATE_UNDEFINE_SOURCE, VIR_MIGRATE_PEER2PEER, VIR_MIGRATE_LIVE, VIR_MIGRATE_TUNNELLED | 21:20 |
| dansmith | no, I meant with regular migration | 21:20 |
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| cfriesen | dansmith: I can't remember when we undefine...thought maybe we didn't undefine until migration was confirmed | 21:22 |
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| dansmith | cfriesen: yep, we do | 21:22 |
| melwitt | cfriesen: to answer your earlier question, operators that don't allow compute nodes to talk to each other don't do migrations at all, live or otherwise | 21:23 |
| melwitt | cfriesen: and to do it at all would require tunneling through a proxy, I think, like dansmith mentioned | 21:24 |
| cfriesen | melwitt: so they're okay with the computes talking to the controller, but not to each other? | 21:25 |
| dansmith | yeah | 21:25 |
| dansmith | cross-compute conversations could be leaking data from coke to pepsi | 21:25 |
| dansmith | if you can live migrate into another host with no restriction, then once you break out of one hypervisor, you can go anywhere you want | 21:26 |
| dansmith | a proxy would only proxy the migration if it's been set up from the outside | 21:26 |
| cfriesen | dansmith: makes sense | 21:26 |
| dansmith | there is a giant lie in all of this, | 21:26 |
| cfriesen | for the paranoid | 21:26 |
| dansmith | which is related to the fact that messages on the bus cannot be strongly authenticated at the moment | 21:27 |
| dansmith | but it's a massively smaller surface than allowing any compute to jump to any other | 21:27 |
| dansmith | cfriesen: s/paranoid/prepared/ | 21:27 |
| dansmith | cfriesen: see venom | 21:27 |
| cfriesen | dansmith: oh, agreed. paranoia often eventually turns out to be justified | 21:29 |
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| melwitt | I think about it as instances that are open to the internet, running applications that take requests from the public. if there's some exploit someone can do from outside, want to limit how far that can propagate once they're inside | 21:30 |
| penick | that’s another concern we have. If a person owns a VM and its hypervisor, they could send a bogus migration call up to the queue, and use that migration to hitch a ride to other uncompromised hypervisors, and own them too. | 21:31 |
| penick | yep | 21:31 |
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| dansmith | penick: yep, well-understood as the need for trusted messaging | 21:31 |
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| penick | I suppose the API server could construct the proxy prior to dumping the migration notification on the queue. I’m guessing that’s not ok, since it would step outside of the normal openstack design pattern? | 21:33 |
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| dansmith | it doesn't fix anything really | 21:35 |
| dansmith | without trusted messaging, we don't really know who is running what and from where (for certain) | 21:35 |
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| dansmith | if we had it, we'd say that only conductor can create migration objects and without it, nothing will start the proxy | 21:36 |
| dansmith | but we can't enforce the first part right now | 21:36 |
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| penick | makes sense | 21:38 |
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