Tuesday, 2022-07-05

opendevreviewErik Olof Gunnar Andersson proposed openstack/neutron master: Report ExternalDNSOverQuota exception for zone quota error  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/84842002:17
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opendevreviewLajos Katona proposed openstack/neutron master: [sqlalchemy-20] Missing DB context decorator for update_floatingip  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/84870108:00
opendevreviewMerged openstack/neutron-lib master: Remove unused placement constants  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-lib/+/84844508:13
fricklerdoc build is broken after latest pecan update, I'm pushing a fix08:20
lajoskatonafrickler: thanks for headsup08:22
opendevreviewDr. Jens Harbott proposed openstack/neutron master: Fix requirements for doc build  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/84870608:28
opendevreviewLajos Katona proposed openstack/neutron master: [sqlalchemy-20] Missing DB decorator for update_floatingip_status  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/84870108:38
fricklerneutron-ovs-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full also looks very unstable, is that a known issue?08:39
opendevreviewMerged openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin master: Add a test for removing security group from ACTIVE instance  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/+/84495808:40
ykarelfrickler, seems that's known considering https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/198072108:46
fricklerykarel: ah, thx for the pointer, I hadn't dug deep enough yet to match this together08:53
opendevreviewSlawek Kaplonski proposed openstack/neutron master: Remove ovs agent's common constants module  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/79712109:02
opendevreviewMerged openstack/ovn-octavia-provider stable/xena: Delete vip port if create_vip_port raise exception  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ovn-octavia-provider/+/84857909:13
opendevreviewSlawek Kaplonski proposed openstack/neutron master: Add WebTest package to the docs requirements  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/84873009:19
opendevreviewMerged openstack/neutron master: Fix requirements for doc build  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/84870609:31
opendevreviewMerged openstack/ovn-octavia-provider stable/yoga: Apply ServiceMonitorEvent to affected LBs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ovn-octavia-provider/+/84642310:35
opendevreviewLajos Katona proposed openstack/neutron master: [sqlalchemy-20] Remove retry decorator from update_floatingip_status  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/84870111:16
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lajoskatona#startmeeting networking14:00
opendevmeetMeeting started Tue Jul  5 14:00:09 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is lajoskatona. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
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opendevmeetThe meeting name has been set to 'networking'14:00
lajoskatonaHi14:00
mlavalleo/14:00
obondarev hi14:00
rubasovo/14:00
elvirahi!14:00
slaweqo/14:01
frickler\o14:01
ralonsohhi14:01
lajoskatonaOk let's start today's meeting14:01
lajoskatona#topic Announcements14:02
lajoskatonaThe usual Zed schedule: https://releases.openstack.org/zed/schedule.html14:02
* slaweq is in the same time in the secure RBAC meeting14:02
lajoskatonaslaweq: ack, thanks14:02
lajoskatonaThe EOLing of Queens, Rocky and Stein branches for stadiums happened14:03
lajoskatonathere are still some hanging patches (topic: #link https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:stadium_eol_qrs )14:03
lajoskatonabut that is for deleting some old legacy zuul jobs14:03
bcafarellate o/14:04
lajoskatonaThere are some interesting discussion on mailing list, like:14:05
lajoskatona[all][tc][gerrit] Ownership of *-stable-maint groups14:05
lajoskatona#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-July/029367.html14:05
slaweqyeah, I saw it but didn't had time to read all that thread yet14:05
lajoskatonaIf I understand well we wil have management right over the stable neutron groups14:06
lajoskatonaanother topic this morning perhaps is this one:14:06
lajoskatonaA centralized list of usable vs unusable projects? (#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-July/029385.html )14:06
lajoskatonaeven thinking on it is interesting as most/some of our stadium projects can be interesting to check from usability14:07
lajoskatonathey mostly perfect for the few usecase the original developers worked on, but no new adaptation happened recently, like to make them work with OVN14:08
lajoskatonaDo you have questions or comments for Announcements?14:09
lajoskatonaOk, next topic14:09
lajoskatona#topic Bugs14:10
lajoskatonaReport from rubasov: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-June/029270.html14:10
lajoskatonaThere were few "under discussion / more investigation needed":14:10
lajoskatonaneutron dnsmasq keeps pushing the default gateway (#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1979528 )14:10
lajoskatonaAnd: l3ha router delete race condition if state changes to master (#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1979089 )14:11
lajoskatonarubasov: do you have any comments, or something to highlight?14:12
rubasovI missed the newest answer on 1979528, but now I will follow up on that14:13
lajoskatonarubasov: thanks14:13
rubasovon the other hand I don't know enough about l3ha for the other one14:13
lajoskatonaok, next week's report from ralonsoh: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-July/029380.html14:14
lajoskatonaralonsoh: do you have any comments/highlights for it? As I remember all bugs has assignee14:15
ralonsohI think all bugs are assigned or there is a patch under review14:15
ralonsohright14:15
ralonsohso nothing to comment, thanks14:16
lajoskatonaralonsoh, rubasov: thanks for the report14:16
lajoskatonaThis week lucasgomes is the deputy and next week jlibosva will be.14:16
lajoskatonaI am not sure if lucasgomes is aware of his deputy week, I have no answer to my mail :-(14:17
mlavalleI can ping him internally at RH14:17
lajoskatonamlavalle: thanks14:17
jlibosvahe was sick at the beginning of the last week so perhaps he might have missed that. I ack my duty for the next week14:18
lajoskatonajlibosva: thanks14:18
lajoskatonaif there is no comments or questions for the bugs, we can move on14:19
lajoskatona#topic On Demand Agenda14:19
lajoskatona(lajoskatona/elvira): channel in questions for development topics (how to do things, how to debug things.... etc.) to IRC14:20
mlavallelajoskatona: lucasgomes confirms he is aware14:20
lajoskatonamlavalle: thanks14:20
lajoskatonathis topic is quite formless, but please think about it.14:20
lajoskatonaIt is about to give more life to the channel, and make it a welcoming channel for dumb developer questions, or newcomer topics also14:21
lajoskatonaperhaps it is now, but we have few newcomers, but would be good to know if we can make it more easy to ask 14:22
lajoskatonaI was thinking on a period of like office hours for some projects, but as "help you hacking hour" or something like this14:22
ralonsohnice idea14:23
lajoskatonait was elvira who mentioned that if a channel is quiet, it's not easy to go there and ask a question becasue it feels like bothering others14:23
slaweqlajoskatona maybe I'm not aware but were there any attempts to contact with such questions already?14:23
slaweqand we didn't reply?14:23
slaweqmy concern is that how such newcomer will know about such "office hours" in the channel?14:24
lajoskatonaslaweq: It is more about the questions that are not even asked14:24
elviraslaweq: I think is more on the side of: if no one talks, no one asks. Not really that the channel is not welcoming14:24
lajoskatonaslaweq: yeah that is a good question14:24
slaweqFirst of all we have this doc https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/doc/source/contributor/contributing.rst14:25
slaweqmaybe we should make it somehow more visible?14:25
lajoskatonayea the not welcoming was not a good starting from me, I think there's always answer if there is a question, but to make it easier to ask the first question14:25
slaweqlike link to it on the main page of the repo?14:25
lajoskatonaslaweq: thats a good idea14:26
slaweqnow it's linked in https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.rst14:26
slaweqbut not in the https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/README.rst14:26
slaweqlajoskatona  elvira I'm not against such "office hours" and I'm happy to help with it14:27
slaweqbut we should first somehow advertize it14:27
slaweqmaybe we can also add such info to the channel's topic14:27
lajoskatonaslaweq: I don't want to have extra load if it is useless, just first to think about it :-)14:28
slaweqsure14:28
lajoskatonaslaweq: channel topic is also good idea, if it is working with oftc14:28
fricklerI can set channel topic if you tell me what you want there14:29
elviraMaybe we can come up with more general approaches. Like adding a message in the topic of the IRC where we encourage asking14:29
frickleror any other infra-root14:29
lajoskatonaok, thanks for the ideas, I will think about it also in the coming weeks14:29
lajoskatonafrickler: thanks14:29
slaweqelvira++ frickler++ good ideas14:30
fricklerwould also be good to link to the channel log IMHO14:30
lajoskatonaNext topic:14:30
lajoskatonaSorry, wrong copy/paste14:31
mlavalleregardless of the mechanism, making the Neutron channel and the team more approachable is always good14:31
lajoskatonafrickler: you mean to https://meetings.opendev.org/irclogs/%23openstack-neutron/ ?14:31
frickleryes14:31
fungialso the neutron team can delegate additional channel operators by amending the accessbot config in openstack/project-config14:32
lajoskatonaby the way is there a way to search irclogs? I missed that feature sometimes14:32
fungilajoskatona: site:meetings.opendev.org in a search engine maybe. but no we don't have a standalone index of the channel log files14:32
lajoskatonafungi: thanks, I will check it14:33
lajoskatonaOk, next topic:14:34
lajoskatona(rubasov): Neutron performance measurements with rally back to Big Bang :-)14:34
lajoskatonahttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-July/029384.html14:34
rubasovI just have these api performance measurements for the last few releases, maybe you find it interesting14:34
rubasovdirect link to the summary chart: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/attachments/20220704/6838fd60/attachment-0001.png14:35
lajoskatonaNote: you have to scroll to the bottom to see the x axis labels14:36
rubasovyeah the x axis is shared between the plots14:37
slaweqrubasov++ thx for that, it's really good14:37
lajoskatonaexactly: thanks for the efforts, and even the news is good :-)14:38
mlavallerubasov: +++14:38
slaweqsince like between Queens and Victoria most of the things were really slow, and it improved in Wallaby and newer versions14:38
rubasovstill thinking about re-uploading the tarball somwehere more stable14:38
rubasovwill check if it fits github policies14:39
rubasovand there's more data in the rally reports, may make sense to dive into that too14:40
lajoskatonaPerhaps it's worth to make a kind of discussion if this method is good enough for such measurements, and do something like this for every coming cycle, and add a "team goal" to next cycle based on that14:41
rubasovif you have any questions, comments on the methodology, you know where to find me :-)14:42
lajoskatonathanks rubasov14:42
slaweqyes, we should IMO identify now slowest operations and maybe take a closer look at such14:43
slaweqlike e.g. create_and_update_routers - it is better now but still 150 seconds14:43
slaweqI'm not sure for how many routers it was at once but seems still slow14:43
rubasovkeep in mind that is for 40 iterations14:44
slaweqahh, ok14:44
rubasovthe rally task definition defines these iteration counts14:45
rubasovthe chart has the iteration count next to the scenario name14:45
slaweqrubasov: I saw it but I wasn't sure if time is summary for all iterations or maybe average per iteration14:46
slaweqor something like that14:46
slaweqthx for explanation14:46
rubasovrally has two main outputs: load_duration and full_duration for each scenario14:47
rubasovthe chart show load_duration for all iterations14:47
lajoskatonaIf there's no more comments for these measurements, we can move on14:49
lajoskatona(slaweq) August 2022 OpenInfra Board Sync14:49
lajoskatonahttps://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-June/029352.html14:49
lajoskatonaEtherpad https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/2022-08-board-openstack-sync14:49
lajoskatonaTime slots poll https://framadate.org/atdFRM8YeUtauSgC (deadline next Friday, 15.07.2022)14:49
lajoskatonaslaweq: thanks for bringing it up14:49
slaweqyeah, it's just a heads up14:50
lajoskatonathanks14:50
ralonsohwho needs to attend?14:50
slaweqif You have any topics which You think would be good to discuss with the Board, please add to the etherpad14:51
slaweqand add Your prefered time slots in the poll14:51
lajoskatonaI will I think (have to check the time slots)14:51
slaweqnothing more regarding this topic from me14:51
lajoskatonaok, next one:14:51
ralonsohsorry14:52
lajoskatona(slaweq) Bare rechecks14:52
lajoskatonaDetails in https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-June/029342.html14:52
ralonsohwho needs to attend14:52
ralonsoh?14:52
slaweqralonsoh  You are asking about this board sync?14:52
ralonsohyes14:52
slaweqonly those who wants14:52
lajoskatonaralonsoh: I think the PTL should be there, so I will go, if you have topics that I can bring, let me know14:52
ralonsohok, thanks14:52
slaweqthere is no any requirements14:52
slaweqbut everyone is welcome :)14:53
slaweqregarding "bare rechecks"14:53
slaweqI just wanted to bring it here as in TC recently we started looking how many rechecks done by different projects are rechecks without any reason given in comment14:54
slaweqsuch rechecks may be without reason because person who did it, didn't check what was the issue really14:54
slaweqso please try to at least look into the failed jobs' results and try to maybe find what the issue was there, or report new bug14:55
slaweqor find existing bug if there is any14:55
slaweqYou can always ask on the channel for help with any specific failure14:55
slaweqand then write comments like "recheck and reason of the recheck"14:56
slaweqas a reason it may be link to the bug, bug number, short explanation why job failed or anything else really14:56
slaweqdo You have any questions regarding that?14:56
lajoskatonaslaweq: thanks, I was thinking how to advertise it14:56
slaweqlajoskatona I will be also sending emails about it weekly to the ML14:57
slaweqso I hope it will be more advertized14:57
slaweqand also if You will see someone who is doing "bare rechecks" - please try maybe educate in the gerrit comments, on irc, etc.14:57
lajoskatonaIsn't there a way to set custom banner in gerrit with such blinking message?14:58
slaweqI think that will be the best what we can do14:58
slaweqlajoskatona I don't think so14:58
slaweqit was discussed in one of the tc meetings already14:58
lajoskatonaslaweq: ok, thanks14:58
slaweqlajoskatona  yw14:59
lajoskatonaWe are close to the end of our hour, so let's close the meeting for today14:59
slaweqthat's all from me14:59
lajoskatonaslaweq: ack, thanks14:59
lajoskatona#endmeeting15:00
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lajoskatonabye15:00
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ralonsohbye15:00
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slaweq#startmeeting neutron_ci15:00
opendevmeetMeeting started Tue Jul  5 15:00:12 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
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obondarevo/15:00
ralonsohhi15:00
slaweqThis will be video meeting this time: https://meetpad.opendev.org/neutron-ci-meetings15:00
obondarevhi, sorry, have to drop in 10 min15:00
mlavalleo/15:00
slaweqobondarev  sure, no problem15:01
lajoskatonaHi15:01
slaweqo/15:01
ykarelo/15:02
slaweqykarel it's video meeting today15:02
slaweqGrafana dashboard: https://grafana.opendev.org/d/f913631585/neutron-failure-rate?orgId=115:02
slaweq#topic Actions from previous meetings15:04
opendevreviewErik Olof Gunnar Andersson proposed openstack/neutron master: Report ExternalDNSOverQuota exception for zone quota error  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/84842015:05
slaweq#action  slaweq to fix functiona/fullstack failures on centos 9 stream: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/197632315:05
slaweq#action slaweq to move fedora periodic job to centos9 stream15:05
ralonsohhttps://meet.google.com/mms-xkoy-cny15:07
ralonsohslaweq, ^^15:07
ralonsohwe'll switch to google meet15:07
slaweqok15:08
ralonsohneutron all ^^ meeting link https://meet.google.com/mms-xkoy-cny15:08
bcafarelaww I had just finished installed the flatpak15:08
opendevreviewMerged openstack/ovn-octavia-provider stable/ussuri: Delete vip port if create_vip_port raise exception  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ovn-octavia-provider/+/84858315:12
ralonsohslaweq, yes, we can try this15:13
slaweq#action ralonsoh to try using sudo as root_helper in functional tests15:14
slaweq#topic Stable branches15:16
slaweq#topic Stadium projects15:17
slaweq#topic Grafana15:18
slaweq#topic Rechecks15:22
lajoskatonaAs I see we even low in resorce usage, perhaps related to low recheck rate: https://grafana.opendev.org/d/94891e7b01/resource-usage-by-tenants-and-projects?orgId=115:26
slaweq#topic On Demand15:30
mlavalleslaweq: all good with he latest topic15:34
mlavalleslaweq: enjoy your PTO15:35
ykarellajoskatona, it didn't ran due to https://github.com/openstack/project-config/blob/master/zuul.d/pipelines.yaml#30915:35
slaweq#endmeeting15:35
opendevmeetMeeting ended Tue Jul  5 15:35:31 2022 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:35
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ykarelneed comment to be check experimental15:35
slaweqmlavalle thx a lot15:35
mlavalleo/15:35
ykarelrecheck experimental do not match with the regex15:36
ykarelinstead that trigger check15:36
bcafareloh true I remember I had this (not seeing experimental run when I thought they would)15:37
lajoskatonaykarel, ralonsoh, bcafarel: by zuul now it is started in experimental queue: https://zuul.openstack.org/status#84628815:38
ykarelyeap right comment this time15:40
opendevreviewMerged openstack/networking-ovn stable/train: Delete vip port if create_vip_port raise exception  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/networking-ovn/+/84858416:56
opendevreviewMerged openstack/neutron master: Fix some pylint indentation warnings  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/84847517:19
opendevreviewMerged openstack/ovn-octavia-provider stable/yoga: Remove incorrect character in f-string  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ovn-octavia-provider/+/83447118:05
opendevreviewTyler Stachecki proposed openstack/neutron-lib master: model_query: Improve perf with large # of RBAC  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-lib/+/81745918:53
opendevreviewMerged openstack/neutron stable/ussuri: [OVN][Placement] Make the Placement reporter compatible with OVN  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/84843319:06
opendevreviewMerged openstack/neutron master: Report ExternalDNSOverQuota exception for zone quota error  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/84842020:15
opendevreviewErik Olof Gunnar Andersson proposed openstack/neutron stable/yoga: Report ExternalDNSOverQuota exception for zone quota error  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/84872220:19
opendevreviewErik Olof Gunnar Andersson proposed openstack/neutron stable/xena: Report ExternalDNSOverQuota exception for zone quota error  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/84872320:19
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