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openstackgerrit | ZhouHeng proposed openstack/neutron master: remove try_again from _commit_port_binding https://review.opendev.org/675034 | 00:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron master: test_l3: Be a bit more selective where to inject a failiure https://review.opendev.org/675044 | 03:28 |
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openstackgerrit | LIU Yulong proposed openstack/neutron master: Check dvr local router is up during port creation https://review.opendev.org/633871 | 04:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Maciej Józefczyk proposed openstack/networking-ovn master: Fix test_update_port_with_empty_data https://review.opendev.org/675261 | 07:48 |
openstackgerrit | Maciej Józefczyk proposed openstack/networking-ovn master: Add mock for _check_for_socket_ready https://review.opendev.org/674574 | 07:50 |
openstackgerrit | Maciej Józefczyk proposed openstack/networking-ovn master: Fix test_update_port_with_empty_data https://review.opendev.org/675261 | 07:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/neutron master: Kill all processes running in a namespace before deletion https://review.opendev.org/674820 | 08:14 |
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openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/networking-midonet master: TEST FOR CI DO NOT REVIEW https://review.opendev.org/199387 | 08:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Maciej Józefczyk proposed openstack/networking-ovn master: Fix test_update_port_with_empty_data https://review.opendev.org/675261 | 08:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Maciej Józefczyk proposed openstack/networking-ovn master: Fix test_update_port_with_empty_data and add mock for _check_for_socket_ready https://review.opendev.org/674574 | 08:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-vif master: only disable mac ageing for ovs hybrid plug https://review.opendev.org/672834 | 10:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Maciej Józefczyk proposed openstack/networking-ovn master: Fix gateway blockers https://review.opendev.org/674574 | 12:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Oleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron stable/rocky: Check for agent restarted after checking for DVR port https://review.opendev.org/671965 | 13:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron master: remove try_again from _commit_port_binding https://review.opendev.org/675034 | 17:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron master: Add 3 retry attempts to initialize ovs agent https://review.opendev.org/674085 | 20:07 |
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gregwork | is PVLAN a thing for neutron? | 21:14 |
gregwork | i am trying to stop backdoor access between tenants on my manila nfs network by using pvlan to register the port uplink of the instances to the vip of the nfs ganesha vip.. however im not sure if neutron can do that | 21:16 |
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tidwellr | gregwork: TLDR I don't see an obvious way to support this. I doubt neutron in its current state can support PVLAN, although you've now got me thinking that perhaps routed provider networks or trunks could somehow be extended to support it. Could be an interesting blueprint, I'd have to think about this a little more | 21:27 |
gregwork | there is no l2 port security mechanic in neutron as is right ? | 21:28 |
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gregwork | client mac <-> remote mac acl ? | 21:28 |
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tidwellr | you get anti-spoofing, but yeah security groups don't offer MAC filtering, they offer filtering at a higher layer | 21:30 |
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gregwork | so i wonder .. how ARE people stoping tenant backdoor chatter when using manila/ganesha-nfs | 21:31 |
gregwork | the docs are pretty basic "create storagenfs network during overcloud deploy, plug ports on said network in, connect to vip for nfs" | 21:32 |
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gregwork | without using some elaborate transit tenant with firewalls | 21:33 |
gregwork | connecting the client tenants | 21:33 |
gregwork | you are also routing a bit which impacts performance ? (compared to straight L2) | 21:34 |
tidwellr | I take it your nfs network is a shared provider network? | 21:35 |
gregwork | yes | 21:35 |
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tidwellr | just so I understand, your concern is that different tenants are able to sniff broadcasts from other tenants on that storage network? | 21:39 |
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gregwork | so its a nic with an ip | 21:42 |
gregwork | if that instance is not locked down | 21:42 |
gregwork | somebody can pop it potentially | 21:42 |
tidwellr | so, as the operator you want some backup so you don't have tenants over-exposing themselves? | 21:44 |
gregwork | yeah also audit issues | 21:46 |
tidwellr | I can totally understand that, so you're thinking of PVLAN as a way of quietly isolating tenants while allowing them access to a shared provider network? | 21:47 |
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gregwork | yeah, only the uplink would be visible | 21:49 |
gregwork | and id set that to the mac/ip of the vip | 21:49 |
gregwork | they wouldnt see any other traffic | 21:49 |
tidwellr | you want fixed IP's to be routable, right? no hiding behind a floating IP? | 21:50 |
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tidwellr | sticking a logical router in the mix and putting VM's on an overlay network with DVR may add some latency but give you the isolation you're looking for. And if you want fixed IP's to be routable, you can use BGP to make that happen. I hadn't thought of this use case, providing access to a shared network does imply some level of trust between tenants so I think best practice has been to just not share provider networks if | 21:56 |
tidwellr | there's a concern | 21:56 |
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gregwork | i agree, but the storagenfs network and the way manila leverages it is kind of foundational | 22:22 |
gregwork | we like the idea of file share as a servive for cephfs/nfs | 22:22 |
gregwork | our clents love the notion of being able to not need to maintain the whole ha/nfs/cephfs backend | 22:22 |
gregwork | the can just create/use shares out of their quota and keep their apps lightwieght | 22:23 |
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gregwork | something like pvlan would make solving this access control trivial, the neighbors literally dont exist | 22:23 |
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gregwork | its just you and the ganesha vip | 22:24 |
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gregwork | no routing no middle men no overlays | 22:24 |
gregwork | just high perf layer 2 | 22:24 |
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