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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Deterministic ordering of fixed_ips https://review.openstack.org/382121 | 00:41 |
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| armax | mordred: you’ve been served ^ | 00:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Newton release postmortem https://review.openstack.org/360207 | 00:49 |
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| * mordred hands armax and kevinbenton and extra airplane brownie he has laying here | 00:59 | |
| armax | mordred: how stale is it? | 00:59 |
| kevinbenton | mordred: is it a delta brownie? | 00:59 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: don’t accept it! | 00:59 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: I am offended that mordred would think he could get away with a brownie | 01:00 |
| armax | pff | 01:00 |
| kevinbenton | armax: i suspect it was a free brownie from a first-class meal :) | 01:01 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: still not good enough | 01:01 |
| armax | sorry | 01:02 |
| armax | :) | 01:02 |
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| kevinbenton | armax: if it's the brownie i'm thinking of, it's too choclately for my tastes :) | 01:02 |
| armax | I am going to delay the merge of your patch artificially and let mordred have more fun in the next coming days | 01:02 |
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| mordred | kevinbenton: yup. it's that delta brownie - sorry | 01:04 |
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| kevinbenton | mordred: that's ok :P | 01:05 |
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| mordred | :) | 01:06 |
| kevinbenton | mordred: armax is just jealous because he flies United and doesn't get any free brownies | 01:06 |
| armax | kevinbenton: nah, we get Stroopwafels, which are a delicacy you can never appreciate | 01:07 |
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| kevinbenton | armax: sounds made up | 01:07 |
| armax | I swear | 01:07 |
| armax | http://newsroom.united.com/2015-12-09-Free-Snacks-are-Back-United-Airlines-to-Introduce-New-Signature-Snacks | 01:08 |
| kevinbenton | armax: well imaginary food is what i suspect united would serve... | 01:08 |
| armax | there | 01:08 |
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| kevinbenton | armax: that looks pretty good | 01:08 |
| armax | that’s what I am saying! | 01:09 |
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| mordred | stroopwafels are awesome | 01:10 |
| mordred | I get those on the klm partner flights | 01:11 |
| mordred | cause, you know, holland | 01:11 |
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| kevinbenton | tomorrow i get to fly on a skywest operated delta flight. i'll be lucky if they pressurize the cabin :) | 01:14 |
| HenryG | armax: ping | 01:14 |
| armax | HenryG: pong | 01:14 |
| mordred | kevinbenton: who needs pressure? | 01:14 |
| HenryG | armax: about https://review.openstack.org/372857 | 01:14 |
| HenryG | armax: I just realized, I should mention about the project-id API extension. | 01:15 |
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| armax | HenryG: ok | 01:15 |
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| armax | HenryG if you want to respin go ahead | 01:15 |
| armax | HenryG: my +2 is sticky | 01:15 |
| HenryG | armax: I'll just add a note in the intro | 01:16 |
| armax | ok | 01:16 |
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| armax | see if you want to drop the lbaas v1 file beforehand | 01:16 |
| HenryG | armax: I commented on that | 01:17 |
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| armax | ok, though I don’t understand why we’d keep documenting something that’s been removed | 01:18 |
| armax | meh | 01:18 |
| HenryG | armax: I think it's because our api-ref is not versioned | 01:19 |
| armax | it is | 01:19 |
| armax | somewhat | 01:19 |
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| armax | as it’s the version of neutron-lib | 01:19 |
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| armax | I suppose we can get rid of it when Mitaka is EOL | 01:20 |
| armax | but that’s fine | 01:20 |
| HenryG | ok | 01:20 |
| HenryG | what's the versioned link to the api-ref? | 01:20 |
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| HenryG | I see only a link under "Current API versions". http://developer.openstack.org/api-guide/quick-start/index.html | 01:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anindita Das proposed openstack/neutron-lib: api-ref: Fix api-ref for service-providers https://review.openstack.org/358396 | 01:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ha Van Tu proposed openstack/neutron: Fix typo in comment https://review.openstack.org/378478 | 01:27 |
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| armax | HenryG: there’s no version per se | 01:27 |
| armax | I mean on docs.o.o | 01:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/378850 | 01:31 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/os-vif: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/377527 | 01:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Newton release postmortem https://review.openstack.org/360207 | 01:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | HenryG: you work too much :) | 01:58 |
| HenryG | Sam-I-Am: Look who's talking | 01:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | sigh... | 01:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm actually NOT working on openstack | 01:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | but i'm buried in flight instruction books | 01:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | i have two hands and two eyes... one book in one hand, one in the other. that's what i call efficiency. | 01:59 |
| HenryG | Sam-I-Am: only works if you can operate your brain in split mode | 02:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | HenryG: does a splitting headache count? | 02:02 |
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| HenryG | Sam-I-Am: Heh. No. | 02:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Henry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron-lib: api-ref: Update to current state of Keystone V3 support https://review.openstack.org/372857 | 02:09 |
| HenryG | armax: ^^ | 02:09 |
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| HenryG | armax: We should get https://review.openstack.org/362969 merged too. I will ping Ihar tomorrow. | 02:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Lower concurrency on rally port job https://review.openstack.org/374536 | 02:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Deterministic ordering of fixed_ips https://review.openstack.org/382121 | 02:35 |
| kevinbenton | mordred: sorry, i think i just bombed a bunch of your test runs :/ | 02:35 |
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| mordred | uhoh | 02:41 |
| mordred | it's fine - we have plenty of servers | 02:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | wow, none of you sleep :) | 02:47 |
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| prometheanfire | Sam-I-Am: yep | 02:51 |
| prometheanfire | I found a missing dep | 02:51 |
| mordred | Sam-I-Am: well, I'm on an aeroplane over the atalntic. I'd love to sleep ... | 02:51 |
| prometheanfire | singledispatch is needed by neutron-db-manage | 02:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | prometheanfire: i thought you were missing a dependency on sleep | 03:00 |
| prometheanfire | nope :P | 03:00 |
| prometheanfire | it's only needed for py2 though | 03:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | one of these days i'll sleep again | 03:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | working on the cfi is killing me | 03:00 |
| prometheanfire | neutron have a working wsgi impl in newton? | 03:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | and the giant networking guide patch, of course | 03:02 |
| kevinbenton | mordred: shouldn't you be asleep now to get on the right timezone? | 03:02 |
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| mordred | kevinbenton: yes. yes I should | 03:12 |
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| kevinbenton | mordred: DL 4365? | 03:14 |
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| mordred | kevinbenton: DL 82 | 03:15 |
| kevinbenton | mordred: arg! | 03:15 |
| mordred | http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL82/history/20161004/1944Z/KATL/LFPG | 03:15 |
| kevinbenton | mordred: right origin, wrong destination :) | 03:15 |
| mordred | :) | 03:16 |
| mordred | so many to choose from | 03:16 |
| kevinbenton | yeah, there are more than 10 delta in the air to LHR right now :) | 03:17 |
| kevinbenton | mordred: this is pretty impressive actually https://flightaware.com/live/flex_bigmap.rvt?search=-airline%20DAL&time=1475637480&key=8ae041015b056b24a882c151f7c0ae88908ebecb&title=Airborne%20Delta%20"Delta"%20(DAL)%20Aircraft | 03:19 |
| kevinbenton | lots of assets 5 miles above the atlantic | 03:20 |
| mordred | I love flightaware. and yah - wow | 03:21 |
| prometheanfire | have fun | 03:21 |
| prometheanfire | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1630427 | 03:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1630427 in neutron "singledispatch is missing from requirements" [Undecided,New] | 03:21 |
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| HenryG | prometheanfire: I commented on the bug | 03:51 |
| prometheanfire | HenryG: thanks | 03:52 |
| prometheanfire | HenryG: actually, didn't mean pecan | 03:52 |
| prometheanfire | HenryG: doesn't show it as a dep here https://github.com/pecan/pecan/blob/1.1.2/requirements.txt | 03:53 |
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| HenryG | prometheanfire: pip show pecan | grep Requires | 03:54 |
| prometheanfire | looks like I removed it because I assumed sane reqs usage | 03:55 |
| prometheanfire | https://github.com/pecan/pecan/blob/1.1.2/setup.py | 03:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Aradhana Singh proposed openstack/neutron: Moving query builder methods to Subnet OVO https://review.openstack.org/377114 | 03:55 |
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| HenryG | prometheanfire: I don't know enough about that. Do you have enough info to get past your issue? | 03:59 |
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| prometheanfire | HenryG: no issue | 04:01 |
| prometheanfire | my fault in updating the pecan package | 04:01 |
| prometheanfire | been fixed | 04:01 |
| HenryG | prometheanfire: cool | 04:01 |
| HenryG | prometheanfire: by 'issue' I meant the bug you filed | 04:02 |
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| prometheanfire | ya, can be closed with prejudice | 04:02 |
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| prometheanfire | HenryG: found something else maybe, but I would have thought gate would have found it first | 04:27 |
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| prometheanfire | actually, does neutron support python3.4? | 04:32 |
| HenryG | prometheanfire: alledgedly | 04:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Relocate Tag DB model https://review.openstack.org/355536 | 04:32 |
| prometheanfire | well, maybe not :P | 04:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Relocate dvr model https://review.openstack.org/353541 | 04:33 |
| HenryG | Python 3.x is only tested via unit and functional tests | 04:33 |
| prometheanfire | https://gist.github.com/prometheanfire/99342341c73938b95384c0e7539eb2a3 | 04:33 |
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| prometheanfire | I'd say starting the linuxbridge agent should qualify | 04:34 |
| HenryG | We don't run integrated tests with it | 04:34 |
| prometheanfire | I didn't change my configs for ml2 though | 04:34 |
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| HenryG | prometheanfire: that's worth a bug report | 04:36 |
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| HenryG | prometheanfire: I am about to tootle off. I can look at it tomorrow. | 04:37 |
| prometheanfire | kk | 04:37 |
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| prometheanfire | HenryG: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1630439 thanks | 04:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1630439 in neutron "linuxbridge-agent fails to start on python3.4" [Undecided,New] | 04:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/378850 | 04:49 |
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| prometheanfire | heh, if it helps nova has a similiar problem https://gist.github.com/prometheanfire/e25b5f53f3247aca94ec14b67832da1c | 05:06 |
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| afazekas | Long time ago I was simple able to replace my l3 agent with vpn agent, but now it does not do it's regular l3 business . I checked the gate jobs, and I also does not see any wich has vpn agent and runs any tempest scenario (like the minimum) which would do real l3 connection. | 06:32 |
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| afazekas | Does it tested in any job ? I consulted with the docs http://docs.openstack.org/liberty/networking-guide/adv-config-vpnaas.html , and also with devstack plugin source, I do not see any issue in the logs, I just do see it really handled the two if in the ns properly. | 06:35 |
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| jschwarz | kevinbenton, morning | 07:20 |
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| jschwarz | ihrachys, howdy | 07:21 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: hi | 07:21 |
| jschwarz | ihrachys, re-naked-ping-from-the-day-before-yesterday :) | 07:22 |
| jschwarz | manjeets, hey, did you ping me? | 07:22 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: I wanted to run with you the plan for linuxbridge multinode grenade job | 07:22 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: sadly, I am busy next 2h but I will ping you back later. | 07:22 |
| jschwarz | ihrachys, ack. let me know | 07:23 |
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| anilvenkata | ihrachys, updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364407/ can u please remove -2 ? | 07:29 |
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| ihrachys | anilvenkata: done | 07:31 |
| anilvenkata | ihrachys, thanks Ihar | 07:32 |
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| jschwarz | njohnston, ping | 07:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Morin proposed openstack/neutron: OpenFlowSwitchMixin: do not override delete_flows https://review.openstack.org/380329 | 07:46 |
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| rcernin | hi! re https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1628813 would anyone have a workaound on creating fip on subnet Id in Liberty ? | 08:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1628813 in python-openstackclient "Missing way to create floating IP on a specific subnet ID" [Undecided,New] | 08:11 |
| rcernin | Hi anilvenkata checked your update, thanks for trying. guess we can also close the Launchpad bug if we dont find any idea how to backport this. | 08:12 |
| anilvenkata | rcernin, thanks Robin | 08:13 |
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| rcernin | do you have any side idea how we could use the fip on subnet id in Liberty? | 08:14 |
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| akamyshnikova | anilvenkata, hi! Have you checked that patch is working https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364407 on stable/mitaka? because when I work on original change there were some issues on mitaka like missing host_id, I will recheck this. | 08:16 |
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| anilvenkata | akamyshnikova, yes, addressed that Ann | 08:16 |
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| akamyshnikova | anilvenkata, oh, I see that changes, thanks! | 08:17 |
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| anilvenkata | akamyshnikova, welcome :) | 08:18 |
| openstackgerrit | John Schwarz proposed openstack/neutron: scheduler: add retry indicators for bind_router() https://review.openstack.org/365326 | 08:19 |
| openstackgerrit | John Schwarz proposed openstack/neutron: Only create HA resources when requested by agent https://review.openstack.org/317949 | 08:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Enable OVSDB Connection unit tests for py3 https://review.openstack.org/381951 | 08:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Schwarz proposed openstack/neutron: Only create HA resources when requested by agent https://review.openstack.org/317949 | 10:06 |
| openstackgerrit | John Schwarz proposed openstack/neutron: Only create HA resources when requested by agent https://review.openstack.org/317949 | 10:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/378850 | 10:25 |
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| pmisiak | hi guys, I have a very slow network list response time when i add --shared false parameter to cli command | 10:32 |
| pmisiak | mitaka version | 10:32 |
| pmisiak | look at this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/584409/ | 10:32 |
| pmisiak | without --shared False argument I have response in 2 seconds | 10:33 |
| pmisiak | with --shared False argument I have response in 32 seconds | 10:33 |
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| pmisiak | I debugged a little bit and I see that database returns over 182000 records which is 200MB of data | 10:33 |
| pmisiak | but whrere are only 4000 unique records | 10:34 |
| pmisiak | *there | 10:34 |
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| pmisiak | there are more or less 45 duplicates and I have 45 records in neutron RBAC | 10:36 |
| pmisiak | so I see a corelation here | 10:37 |
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| jschwarz | ihrachys, hello again, re push notifications | 10:47 |
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| ihrachys | jschwarz: howdy | 10:58 |
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| jschwarz | ihrachys, I just want to make sure I understand the whole idea of the push notifications correctly; | 10:59 |
| jschwarz | ihrachys, we intend to just push all the data of objects (on creation/update/deletion) to the agents, without waiting for them to request it | 10:59 |
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| jschwarz | ihrachys, (i.e. instead of telling an agent "get this object" and then waiting for the agent to actually get it, we just give it immediately) | 11:00 |
| jschwarz | ihrachys, and use revision_number to keep versions of objects in case of concurrent requests to the agent? | 11:00 |
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| ihrachys | jschwarz: yeah, pretty much | 11:00 |
| jschwarz | ihrachys, ok, sounds reasonable | 11:01 |
| jschwarz | ihrachys, is this blocking in any way on OVO? | 11:01 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: also for some agents, like dhcp, the same event will carry payload for all agents serving a network | 11:01 |
| jschwarz | ihrachys, I remember talks about push notifications needing be be deferred until the port OVO was complete | 11:01 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: so it's a single notification instead of notification + get_network from each relevant agent | 11:02 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: port object landed | 11:02 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: at least first draft of it that is usable for integration | 11:02 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: neutron/objects/port.py | 11:02 |
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| jschwarz | ihrachys, aye - question is why we needed to wait until it landed in order to proceed with push notif? | 11:02 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: so that we don't need to switch payload format later | 11:03 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: object serialization has specific format that would be hard or impossible to reproduce without the library | 11:03 |
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| ihrachys | jschwarz: so we decided to wait for payload format to land before switching the RPC | 11:03 |
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| jschwarz | ihrachys, makes sense | 11:06 |
| HenryG | ihrachys: good morning | 11:06 |
| jschwarz | ihrachys, so if I am to work on, say, push notif for L3 scheduler, then we better first finish the L3 OVOs? | 11:06 |
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| ihrachys | HenryG: hi | 11:07 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: I guess so | 11:07 |
| HenryG | ihrachys: can you make an update? https://review.openstack.org/362969 | 11:07 |
| jschwarz | ihrachys, helpful as always :) | 11:07 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: well, I don't just guess, I demand :) | 11:08 |
| jschwarz | ihrachys, let me know when you want to discuss the grenade stuff | 11:08 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: right after I serve HenryG :) | 11:08 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: will ping you | 11:08 |
| ihrachys | HenryG: aye, I saw your comments, useful. lemme respin. | 11:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron-lib: api-ref: remove notion of supported xml format https://review.openstack.org/362969 | 11:29 |
| ihrachys | HenryG: fixed and rebased ^ | 11:29 |
| HenryG | ihrachys: tyvm | 11:30 |
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| ihrachys | jschwarz: re linuxbridge grenade | 11:30 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: so we need to revive the effort to make it in the gate, voting | 11:30 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: atm it's in experimental I believe | 11:30 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: hm, actually, I don't see it there either | 11:31 |
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| ihrachys | jschwarz: at least not in the experimental run triggered lately in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379468/ | 11:31 |
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| ihrachys | jschwarz: nah, it's in the queue. should be 'gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron-linuxbridge-multinode-nv' | 11:32 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: but I guess that patch is not the best candidate to trigger it because it does not touch anything in production code, so I suspect it was skipped with skip-of. | 11:33 |
| ihrachys | *skip-if | 11:33 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: I triggered the job in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/371523/ | 11:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | pawnesh kumar proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Updated api-ref configuration https://review.openstack.org/382345 | 11:42 |
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| jschwarz | ihrachys, sorry, was afk | 11:53 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: so once we have latest result for the job, we can check if it fails | 11:53 |
| jschwarz | reading backlog | 11:53 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: if it does, it's up to us to find a fix | 11:53 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: and get it working :) | 11:53 |
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| ihrachys | once there, we will move it to non-voting check, then voting in both queues | 11:54 |
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| jschwarz | ihrachys, ok | 11:55 |
| jschwarz | ihrachys, I will be honest though, I probably won't get to it this month | 11:55 |
| jschwarz | ihrachys, I'm working like 3 more days this month until Barcelona (due to holidays and meetings in between) | 11:55 |
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| jschwarz | ihrachys, holidays in Israel are crazy - next week I'm off for Tuesday-Wednesday, and the week after I'm completely off. Then it's the summit already | 11:57 |
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| amuller | Try moving to the US | 11:57 |
| jschwarz | amuller, need to get my manager's approval for that | 11:57 |
| jschwarz | amuller, can you help? ;-) | 11:57 |
| ihrachys | amuller: hahaha | 11:58 |
| amuller | You should know they're allergic to holidays over here | 11:58 |
| frickler | zigo: I've used the first paragraph of http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron-dynamic-routing/design/system-design.html#introduction and created a rough draft based on copying much of neutron-lbaas at https://code.launchpad.net/~j-rosenboom-j/+git/neutron-dynamic-routing | 11:58 |
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| oanson | Hi | 12:05 |
| oanson | Would it be possible to please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323707/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/378391/ ? | 12:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron-lib: api-ref: remove notion of supported xml format https://review.openstack.org/362969 | 12:05 |
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| zigo | frickler: Thanks a lot. | 12:07 |
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| zigo | frickler: Is it fine if I call the agent package "neutron-dynamic-routing-bgp-dragent" ? | 12:15 |
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| zigo | frickler: Or do you prefer "neutron-bgp-dragent" ? | 12:16 |
| zigo | The later is maybe easier ... | 12:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Kengo Hobo proposed openstack/neutron: Add validation for value of resource key https://review.openstack.org/358401 | 12:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Omer Anson proposed openstack/neutron: Generate OVSDB schema helper in a separate method https://review.openstack.org/323707 | 12:20 |
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| jschwarz | kevinbenton, hey | 12:26 |
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| jschwarz | kevinbenton, i got a few questions on the l3 push notification - please ping me back :) | 12:28 |
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| frickler | zigo: it was called neutron-bgp-dragent for Mitaka in Ubuntu, when it still was part of neutron | 12:30 |
| zigo | frickler: I'll call the package this way then. | 12:30 |
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| zigo | It's easier as well, so that the init script, package name and daemon in /usr/bin all match. | 12:31 |
| frickler | zigo: but we'll need to add the "2:" to the version there, too | 12:31 |
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| zigo | frickler: Why would we add an EPOCH in a new package? This makes no sense... | 12:31 |
| zigo | Oh, because of the old package. | 12:32 |
| zigo | Got you. | 12:32 |
| frickler | zigo: well, it is not completely new, just kind of forked | 12:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Reedip proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Add validator for device owner https://review.openstack.org/381779 | 12:35 |
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| zioproto | hello ! is anyone here familiar with the l2gw plugin ? | 12:39 |
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| tmorin | hi everyone | 12:56 |
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| tmorin | I have a change in networking-bgpvpn that we will not merge until a fix lands in neutron stable/newton - adding a Depends-On on the change-id does not work, because the fix in neutron master and the fix in neutron stable/newton have the same change-id (because the latter is a cherry-pick from the former) -- what can I do to have gerrit handle the merge dependency cleanly ? | 12:58 |
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| tmorin | the example is: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381091 | 13:00 |
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| frickler | tmorin: according to http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#multiple-changes this seems to be the expected behaviour | 13:04 |
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| tmorin | frickler: thanks for the pointer | 13:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Reedip proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Add validator for device owner https://review.openstack.org/381779 | 13:07 |
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| tmorin | frickler: so this means we are safe with our change A in pA having a simple depends-on to the change B in PB, it won't be mergeable until all the B changes (in all branchesof PB) are merged | 13:08 |
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| jschwarz | ihrachys, ovo query: | 13:10 |
| jschwarz | ihrachys, can one do a get_objects() with a filter range? i.e. RouterL3AgentBinding.get_objects(router_id.in_(my_router_ids))? | 13:11 |
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| ihrachys | jschwarz: it should | 13:11 |
| jschwarz | ihrachys, (forgive my bad pseudo code) | 13:11 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: pass a list of values | 13:11 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: have you checked that there is no such patch in the review queue? | 13:11 |
| jschwarz | ihrachys, i.e. RouterL3AgentBinding.get_objects(router_id=['a', 'b']))? | 13:12 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: yeah, that should work | 13:12 |
| jschwarz | ihrachys, looking now, can't find | 13:12 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: ack | 13:12 |
| jschwarz | ihrachys, let me try to run this on my setup | 13:12 |
| jschwarz | ihrachys, if not I'll try to add something like that | 13:12 |
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| tmorin | we're seeing an issue during the dev of a new networking-bgpvpn feature, where we hit the maximum number of tables that sqllite accepts to join together (64), because of the depth of the lazy=join "tree" | 13:14 |
| prometheanfire | HenryG: you are still up? | 13:14 |
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| tmorin | the question is: should we do something else than lazy=join although it seems the regular way to do things in neutron... ? | 13:15 |
| tmorin | HenryG: ^^ ? | 13:15 |
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| HenryG | prometheanfire: I have had some sleep | 13:15 |
| prometheanfire | HenryG: about the same as me I'd imagine | 13:15 |
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| HenryG | tmorin: this is in unit tests, right? | 13:16 |
| tmorin | yes | 13:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Victor Morales proposed openstack/neutron: Relocate Flavor and ServiceProfile DB models https://review.openstack.org/349071 | 13:16 |
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| prometheanfire | HenryG: not sure if you wanted to look at the python3.4 fails or not https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.concurrency/+bug/1630575 | 13:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1630575 in oslo.concurrency "python3 memoryview error" [Undecided,New] | 13:17 |
| prometheanfire | bah, wrong bug | 13:17 |
| njohnston | jschwarz: pong | 13:17 |
| prometheanfire | HenryG: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1630439 | 13:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1630439 in neutron "linuxbridge-agent fails to start on python3.4" [Undecided,New] | 13:18 |
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| HenryG | tmorin: in production, neutron does not support sqlite | 13:19 |
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| HenryG | tmorin: so I don't think we want to refactor neutron to accommodate such a limitation | 13:20 |
| tmorin | HenryG: ok, but step 1 is to have the unittest working... how can we do that if we run into this 64 limit ? | 13:20 |
| tmorin | HenryG: I agree with the production-related rationale | 13:21 |
| HenryG | tmorin: perhaps move the test case(s) affected to a functional test? | 13:21 |
| tmorin | HenryG: that's a very basic API resource creation test... | 13:22 |
| tmorin | HenryG: we didn't do anything particularly heavy or exotic, so if we're having this issue, I think it may quickly hit other projects | 13:23 |
| tmorin | HenryG: naive question: what is the overhead/drawback of *not* using lazy=joined ? | 13:24 |
| HenryG | tmorin: not sure | 13:25 |
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| jschwarz | njohnston, hey | 13:26 |
| jschwarz | njohnston, re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/345631/ | 13:26 |
| jschwarz | njohnston, can't we just provide stevedore a full patch to the extension and have it load from that? | 13:27 |
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| jschwarz | ihrachys, as always, you were right, btw | 13:28 |
| njohnston | jschwarz: I have been tearing my (already limited) hair out on that. I have been unable to get it to work at all, to load a module from within the neutron repo when neutron isn;t being installed in such a way that the entry points get defined. It just seems to fail. | 13:28 |
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| HenryG | tmorin: networking-bgpvpn uses python2-db-jobs for unit tests, so you could just switch from sqlite to mysql, I think | 13:29 |
| jschwarz | njohnston, :< | 13:29 |
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| njohnston | jschwarz: That's how I feel as well | 13:29 |
| jschwarz | njohnston, so add an entry point | 13:30 |
| jschwarz | njohnston, https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/setup.cfg#L71 | 13:30 |
| jschwarz | njohnston, https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/setup.cfg#L102 | 13:31 |
| tmorin | HenryG: sounds like a sound idea, how/where do we tweak this ? | 13:31 |
| jschwarz | njohnston, it's already being done so we might as well add a new one :) | 13:31 |
| njohnston | I did that, but it had no effect. I think that's because fullstack isn't installing the code and then running setup.py. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/345631/9/setup.cfg | 13:31 |
| jschwarz | njohnston, fullstack is installed the same way as functional, and that includes a 'python setup.py egg_info' imo | 13:32 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/378850 | 13:32 |
| jschwarz | njohnston, weird it didn't work | 13:32 |
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| njohnston | jschwarz: that setup.py gets run after the code gets patched in? ack, I will look again, but I didnt see it in the fullstack run log | 13:32 |
| jschwarz | njohnston, it's not part of fullstack per-se, it's part of the devstack stack.sh that installs the packages | 13:33 |
| jschwarz | njohnston, and that's done after the patch is applied but before it's run | 13:33 |
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| HenryG | tmorin: you are probably inheriting this somehow: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/tests/etc/neutron.conf#L26 | 13:33 |
| jschwarz | njohnston, it should work IMO | 13:34 |
| jschwarz | :< | 13:34 |
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| ihrachys | zigo: does dpkg support OR operator for version specifications? | 13:34 |
| zigo | ihrachys: Yes it does. | 13:34 |
| ihrachys | zigo: like sqlite3 < 3.18 or sqlite3 > 3.18 | 13:34 |
| HenryG | tmorin: You need to break that dependency and use your own copy of neutron.conf for tests | 13:35 |
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| zigo | ihrachys: That's a very bad idea to write things this way. | 13:35 |
| ihrachys | zigo: well, I need != | 13:35 |
| ihrachys | zigo: is it supported by dpkg? | 13:35 |
| ihrachys | zigo: rpm seems to not support it | 13:35 |
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| zigo | ihrachys: Yes, dpkg supports it, but I would vote not never writing things this way. | 13:35 |
| zigo | ihrachys: There was never a sqlite3 version 3.18 in Debian anyway. | 13:36 |
| ihrachys | zigo: it's to be generated on the fly from bindep.txt contents | 13:36 |
| zigo | Outch !!! :) | 13:36 |
| zigo | Don't do that ... | 13:36 |
| zigo | There's a reason why I'm writing things by hand. | 13:36 |
| ihrachys | zigo: I am working on a patch for bindep to generate the rules for rpm and dpkg properly | 13:36 |
| zigo | It's to avoid this type of non-sense. | 13:36 |
| ihrachys | zigo: we have this 'type of non-sense' hooked into the gate | 13:37 |
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| zigo | Well, to do that, I'd suggest strongly to use madison-lite to extract the versions available in Jessie and Xenial. | 13:37 |
| ihrachys | zigo: basically, at this point dpkg does not support bindep syntax for version specifications | 13:37 |
| ihrachys | as well as rpm | 13:37 |
| ihrachys | zigo: not sure what's madison-lite | 13:37 |
| zigo | ihrachys: Do you know what is rmadison ? | 13:37 |
| jschwarz | ihrachys, http://logs.openstack.org/23/371523/4/experimental/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron-linuxbridge-multinode-nv/ba58c21/ failed | 13:38 |
| ihrachys | zigo: nope | 13:38 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: cool. now make it pass :P | 13:38 |
| zigo | Example: | 13:38 |
| zigo | $ rmadison neutron | 13:38 |
| zigo | [...] | 13:38 |
| zigo | neutron | 2:8.1.2-2 | unstable | source | 13:38 |
| zigo | neutron | 2:9.0.0~rc1-1 | experimental | source | 13:38 |
| jschwarz | ihrachys, looks like a job issue as all the tests are failing with something specific | 13:38 |
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| zigo | ihrachys: madison-lite would work the same way, but with a local Packages.gz and Sources.gz. | 13:38 |
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| zigo | ihrachys: The idea is that you never need to say python-six >= 1.4.0, since it's already satisfied in both Xenial and Jessie. | 13:39 |
| tmorin | HenryG: would it make sense to have neutron/tests/etc/neutron.conf use mysql by default ? | 13:39 |
| ihrachys | zigo: those version deps are distro agnostic | 13:39 |
| ihrachys | zigo: to give you an idea where it's used, http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/jenkins/scripts/install-distro-packages.sh#n48 | 13:39 |
| ihrachys | see there we pass the result of the tool into apt-get | 13:40 |
| zigo | ihrachys: Well, the point is, dependencies *AREN'T* distro agnostic, they represent restrictions of versions within the distro. | 13:40 |
| HenryG | tmorin: I am not sure the hoards are ready for that | 13:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: L3 DVR: always notify on ROUTER_INTERFACE AFTER_CREATE https://review.openstack.org/381165 | 13:40 |
| HenryG | tmorin: It means everyone has to install mysql to be able to run unit tests | 13:40 |
| ihrachys | the tool reads bindep.txt located in a repo under test, and tries to make sense of them in current distro scope | 13:40 |
| zigo | ihrachys: For this type of things, I'd suggest using the equivs package, so you'd generate a dumb package to install, and then do apt-get -f install. | 13:41 |
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| HenryG | tmorin: It will probably also make the test take longer to run | 13:41 |
| tmorin | HenryG: yes... on the other hand I wouldn't be surprised if this precise 64-join issue is hit inside neutron itself sooner or later... | 13:41 |
| zigo | ihrachys: I can help writing this type of tooling, with a great pleasure. But the day before the release is definitively *not* the right moment to ask for my help! :) | 13:42 |
| zigo | ihrachys: I am currently dealing with 237 package uploads to Debian unstable ... :P | 13:42 |
| ihrachys | zigo: I don't think you follow what I need. my goal is to express bindep version syntax in dpkg and rpm format; not to weigh the merit and drawbacks of bindep.txt per se | 13:42 |
| zigo | I've done a bit of them today and yesterday, but more to come. | 13:42 |
| HenryG | tmorin: I would need to discuss join changes with other folks, like kevinbenton and zzzeek | 13:42 |
| zigo | ihrachys: I do get what you want to do. | 13:42 |
| ihrachys | zigo: I have a patch, I just wanted to check if I can apply OR for deb distros safely | 13:42 |
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| ihrachys | zigo: the patch https://review.openstack.org/381979 | 13:43 |
| zigo | ihrachys: You want to write a script that will install what's expressed by bindep.txt | 13:43 |
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| ihrachys | zigo: if you just chime in with your review for dkpg part at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381979/2/bindep/main.py that would be cool. when you have time, obviously. | 13:44 |
| zigo | ihrachys: Really, apt-get install equivs, and read how it works. The only thing you'd have to do is push stuff in that dummy package equivs will generate for you, install that package, and do apt-get -f install, then let apt solve things for you. | 13:44 |
| zigo | ihrachys: that's the best way to install dependencies. | 13:45 |
| zigo | ihrachys: Appart from that, yeah, you can do what you're doing. | 13:45 |
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| tmorin | HenryG: I'm interested in participating, or at least the outcomes, of such a discussion | 13:46 |
| haleyb | Sam-I-Am: you pinged me yesterday? I was out | 13:46 |
| zigo | ihrachys: The other thing is, most of the time, versions in != are never uploaded to Debian or Ubuntu, so you could just skip that. There are ways to get the upload history... | 13:47 |
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| ihrachys | zigo: when you say 'push stuff in that dummy package', what do you mean? what would I push there? | 13:47 |
| tmorin | HenryG: I'm also interested to know why the choice of lazy=joined everywhere, the benefit is not obvious given that you may sometime load a lot, including some stuff that will not be usefull | 13:47 |
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| tmorin | HenryG: I mean "not be usefull in all codepath" | 13:47 |
| zigo | ihrachys: I'm proposing to make a dummy package "neutron-bin-deps" package using equivs, using what you're doing. | 13:47 |
| zigo | ihrachys: This way, you can just install that package, and get the dependencies. | 13:48 |
| ihrachys | zigo: I will still need to generate the list of deps for that package | 13:49 |
| zigo | ihrachys: Yup ! :) | 13:49 |
| HenryG | tmorin: I'd also be interested to know. | 13:49 |
| ihrachys | zigo: well, that's kinda what I try to achieve now! :) | 13:49 |
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| zigo | I'll look at it later. | 13:49 |
| tmorin | HenryG: I was hoping you would already know ! :) | 13:49 |
| ihrachys | now, you may argue some of those deps may be not needed for debian or ubuntu | 13:49 |
| zigo | frickler: I have just uploaded neutron-dynamic-routing_9.0.0~rc2-1_amd64.changes to Debian experimental. | 13:49 |
| ihrachys | but I don't think that I have a programmatic way to detect that | 13:50 |
| ihrachys | zigo: thanks | 13:50 |
| zigo | frickler: So now, it's going through the FTP master NEW queue. | 13:50 |
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| zigo | frickler: Hopefully, they will approve it soon, and hopefully, this "soon" is before the end of the week, which is the deadline for Ubuntu Yakkety sync from Debian. | 13:50 |
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| zigo | I can't do better... | 13:51 |
| zigo | frickler: Do you want to test the package? | 13:52 |
| zigo | I got it in git.debian.org before moving it to OpenStack infra ... | 13:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Handle uuid references within an ovsdb transaction https://review.openstack.org/358101 | 13:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Replace create_test_network with network object https://review.openstack.org/379633 | 13:58 |
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| ajo_ | ping slaweq slaweq_ are you around for QoS meeting? | 14:05 |
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| frickler | zigo: I'll take a look tomorrow, thanks for cleaning up my mess so fast. having a set of packages I can put into my local repo will be more than good enough for me, but of course it would still be nice to avoid the regression in Ubuntu | 14:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Added bindep.txt to the project https://review.openstack.org/382445 | 14:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Henry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor/prepare db common utils for neutron-lib https://review.openstack.org/337731 | 14:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Added bindep.txt to the project https://review.openstack.org/382445 | 14:15 |
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| frickler | is there a plan to clean up the mess of deprecation warnings? even "tox -epep8" generates umpteen of them | 14:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | tonytan4ever proposed openstack/neutron: Relocate Agent DB model https://review.openstack.org/330870 | 14:17 |
| jlibosva | dasm: congratz release liaison :) | 14:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Omer Anson proposed openstack/neutron: Generate OVSDB schema helper in a separate method https://review.openstack.org/323707 | 14:19 |
| dasm | jlibosva: thanks :) i'm still not quite sure, what does it mean ;) but will do my best :P | 14:19 |
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| jlibosva | dasm: I bet you'll do well :) | 14:20 |
| ihrachys | frickler: which branch | 14:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jens Rosenboom proposed openstack/neutron: Secure dnsmasq process against external abuse https://review.openstack.org/333829 | 14:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: Make Jakub Libosvar contact for ovs-fw tag https://review.openstack.org/382458 | 14:26 |
| frickler | ihrachys: master, though stable/newton also has some | 14:26 |
| ihrachys | frickler: for master, I don't think we care that much. we will clean them up eventually | 14:28 |
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| ihrachys | frickler: as for newton, please propose patches, if there are any | 14:28 |
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| ihrachys | frickler: lemme check what's there | 14:28 |
| frickler | ihrachys: DeprecationWarning: The 'oslo_middleware.ssl' module usage is deprecated, please use oslo_middleware.http_proxy_to_wsgi instead | 14:29 |
| ihrachys | frickler: I don't see any neutron code that would import that module | 14:31 |
| ihrachys | frickler: maybe one of your libs do it | 14:31 |
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| frickler | ihrachys: nothing special for my setup, you can see it here, too http://logs.openstack.org/85/382385/1/check/gate-neutron-pep8-ubuntu-xenial/ced1f4c/console.html#_2016-10-05_12_43_09_032241 though it may be some transitive dependency | 14:33 |
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| ihrachys | frickler: well I see that oslo_middleware/opts.py imports the module itself | 14:34 |
| ihrachys | frickler: so I would think that oslo_middleware should not do it | 14:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: Make Jakub Libosvar contact for ovs-fw tag https://review.openstack.org/382458 | 14:35 |
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| ihrachys | frickler: seems like any import from oslo_middleware triggers import 'from oslo_middleware.ssl import SSLMiddleware' | 14:36 |
| ihrachys | frickler: which will trigger the warning | 14:36 |
| ihrachys | frickler: you should talk to oslo folks to fix it | 14:36 |
| frickler | ihrachys: k, thx | 14:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ann Taraday proposed openstack/neutron: WIP another approach for step 3 https://review.openstack.org/354801 | 14:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Added bindep.txt to the project https://review.openstack.org/382445 | 14:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Morales proposed openstack/neutron: Relocate Segment DB Models https://review.openstack.org/352226 | 14:47 |
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| ihrachys | amuller: adopting the bindep.txt seems to safe us just ~45 secs per job. | 14:50 |
| ihrachys | I thought it will be more significant :) | 14:50 |
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| ihrachys | garyk: sc68cal: would be cool to proceed with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/371504/ because it blocks switching functional job to xenial | 14:56 |
| ihrachys | the patch that adopts the function in functional job is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379468/1 | 14:57 |
| sc68cal | ihrachys: does the sanity checker CLI tool run when the neutron agent is started? | 14:58 |
| sc68cal | I forget | 14:58 |
| ihrachys | sc68cal: no | 14:58 |
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| ihrachys | sc68cal: that said, this patch is not exactly related to the plan for the agent. it's at least needed to fix the functional job | 14:59 |
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| sc68cal | I'm still wrestling with what ianw pointed out, that we're having this issue be pushed up into the deployment tools | 15:00 |
| sc68cal | and there are a lot of them these days | 15:00 |
| sc68cal | I mean I know this isn't cut and dry or simple | 15:00 |
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| ihrachys | sc68cal: it's not like we were to change defaults, or split kernel modules in pieces :) | 15:01 |
| ihrachys | sc68cal: I am not feeling safe to load kernel modules inside the agent | 15:02 |
| sc68cal | yeah. It sucks though because the kernel devs made this painful, and we're just throwing the pain further up the stack | 15:02 |
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| ihrachys | sc68cal: anyhow, I believe that discussion is not in scope for the devstack patch. it's more for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/371523/ | 15:03 |
| ihrachys | sc68cal: we will still need to fix functional tests somehow | 15:03 |
| ihrachys | well, on second thought, I guess if we would load the kernel module, we would not need that devstack patch | 15:03 |
| ihrachys | so I guess it's related | 15:03 |
| sc68cal | right | 15:03 |
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| ihrachys | seems like we should indeed start with agent solution and then act in devstack depending on the choice made | 15:04 |
| ihrachys | lemme WIP then | 15:04 |
| ihrachys | thanks for being stubborn :) | 15:04 |
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| ihrachys | sc68cal: one thing though - we will need it for nova-network at least. maybe not in the same shape (we may get rid of neutron pieces). | 15:06 |
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| sc68cal | ihrachys: sorry, I hate saying no to you :) | 15:06 |
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| boden | HenryG dougwig: got anything for neutron-lib meeting today? | 15:09 |
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| dougwig | boden: HenryG: not me, and I'm busy getting a crown right now. :) | 15:10 |
| boden | dougwig: me either… I hope you mean a crown like king of your house ;) | 15:11 |
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| dougwig | Indeed I do not. The kind with drills and needles. | 15:11 |
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| jordanP | Hi, could you confirm that if one delete the "default" security group for a tenant, it is automaticcaly recreated by Neutron ? | 15:22 |
| ihrachys | jordanP: on next access, yes | 15:22 |
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| jordanP | ihrachys, thanks. What do you mean by "access" ? | 15:22 |
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| jordanP | it seems that listing all the sec groups is concidered an access | 15:25 |
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| boden | dougwig: wel better a crown than a root canal!! | 15:26 |
| ihrachys | jordanP: any get will trigger creation if it's missing | 15:26 |
| ihrachys | jordanP: yeah, any GET | 15:26 |
| jordanP | ok, that confirms my observation | 15:27 |
| jordanP | a bit unexpected but got it | 15:27 |
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| HenryG | boden: dougwig: nothing from me, let's cancel today | 15:28 |
| boden | HenryG: ack | 15:28 |
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| HenryG | dougwig: boden: but we can start fleshing this out in case we get a session at the summit: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-neutron-lib-next-steps | 15:28 |
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| boden | HenryG: will do | 15:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Don't swallow ImportError from load_class_by_alias_or_classname https://review.openstack.org/382512 | 15:30 |
| ihrachys | EmilienM: ^ that should help to debug your issue | 15:30 |
| dougwig | The last summit session was pretty tame. Do we need a lob fishbowl again? | 15:30 |
| dougwig | Lib | 15:30 |
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| HenryG | dougwig: I asked armax that | 15:31 |
| ihrachys | HenryG: dougwig: ^ that small patch, EmilienM has some issues in his tripleo jobs loading lbaasv2 plugin, and we can't make much sense of logs. hopefully, that patch will reveal more details. | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | ihrachys: nice | 15:31 |
| openstackgerrit | chandanc proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] IP Conntrack Manager changes for FWaaS v2 https://review.openstack.org/333338 | 15:31 |
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| dougwig | ihrachys: I can look in about two hours, or ask in #openstack-lbaas | 15:32 |
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| ihrachys | dougwig: I don't think it's lbaasv2 really, it's just neutron swallowing details. anyhoo, 2h is ok for me. not sure about EmilienM ;) | 15:32 |
| HenryG | dougwig: I think armax's answer was that we could use the session in a non-fishbowl way to meet up and plan | 15:33 |
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| EmilienM | ihrachys: I'm not in the hurry | 15:34 |
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| dougwig | HenryG: at armax: we might be able to swap the fb for a working room with ttx in that case. | 15:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Relocate Flavor and ServiceProfile DB models https://review.openstack.org/349071 | 15:36 |
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| jlibosva | amuller: it's great that we are cautious and run funcitonal and fullstack jobs for docs patches :) | 15:37 |
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| amuller | who knows if a docs change will break fullstack | 15:37 |
| jlibosva | could be actually caused by me | 15:38 |
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| jlibosva | that's what I said too! | 15:38 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva: I think skip-if filters broke | 15:39 |
| ihrachys | due to -trusty/-xenial postfix | 15:40 |
| jlibosva | yeah | 15:40 |
| jlibosva | that's what I meant by saying that it was caused by me :) | 15:40 |
| jlibosva | looking at the filters now | 15:40 |
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| dasm | pmisiak: could you submit a bug report with your "shared/not shared" issue? | 15:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ankur proposed openstack/neutron: Expand Feature Classification Advanced Features https://review.openstack.org/369046 | 15:50 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva: so you want me to just not catch the exception and allow the caller to report it? | 15:52 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva: I am fine with it. it's just that atm the function reports that 'Plugin X not found' thingy, so I thought it may be needed? | 15:52 |
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| ihrachys | I dunno | 15:52 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: No, I'm just asking questions :) | 15:52 |
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| jlibosva | ihrachys: yeah, I get what happens. I'm just making sure we do the right thing. I agree that two traces are better than nonw | 15:53 |
| jlibosva | none* | 15:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Anindita Das proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP]Integration of Vlan\VxlanAllocation/Endpoints OVO https://review.openstack.org/367810 | 15:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Don't swallow ImportError from load_class_by_alias_or_classname https://review.openstack.org/382512 | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva: ^ | 16:01 |
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| andreas_s | sc68cal, Hi Sean, would you mind having another look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360420/ | 16:16 |
| andreas_s | I added an elaboration on how the problem got introduced | 16:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Manjeet Singh Bhatia proposed openstack/neutron: Add OVO for FloatingIPDNS https://review.openstack.org/369744 | 16:17 |
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| Chenhao | We need another +2 to merge this change to newton, please have this code reviewed thanks very much. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381829/1 | 16:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Nakul Dahiwade proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Integration of DistributedPortBinding https://review.openstack.org/382567 | 16:55 |
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| manjeetsingh | https://testrun.org/tox/latest/config.html#confval-usedevelop=BOOL | 16:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mohit Malik proposed openstack/neutron: Add OVO for AutoAllocatedTopology https://review.openstack.org/357506 | 17:06 |
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| amuller | dougwig: I think I finally understood your point of view on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370103/ | 17:52 |
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| amuller | dougwig: You're saying that packaging it in the lbaas package makes no sense as you don't expect the script to be run from the neutron/db/controller node itself | 17:54 |
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| amuller | dougwig: It can go in to the lbaas repo regardless though... Since people using the script will be running Mitaka it makes sense to me to place it in the Mitaka branch | 17:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Shashank Kumar Shankar proposed openstack/neutron: OVO for Ipam(Allocation,Subnet,Pool) https://review.openstack.org/360799 | 18:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Morales proposed openstack/neutron: Relocate Segment DB Models https://review.openstack.org/352226 | 18:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | haleyb: mooooo | 18:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Morales proposed openstack/neutron: Integrate Address Scope OVO into DB https://review.openstack.org/308005 | 18:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Added bindep.txt to the project https://review.openstack.org/382445 | 18:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Henry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Rehome populate_project_info() from neutron https://review.openstack.org/382556 | 18:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nakul Dahiwade proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Integration of DistributedPortBinding OVO https://review.openstack.org/382567 | 18:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Manjeet Singh Bhatia proposed openstack/neutron: Add api test for create update network and port with dns https://review.openstack.org/354447 | 18:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Swami: hey? | 18:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | carl_baldwin: moo | 18:45 |
| Swami | Sam-I-Am: hi | 18:46 |
| haleyb | Sam-I-Am: now you have both of us here | 18:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Swami: hey. what does dvr do with ipv6? seems like traffic to the VM needs to go through the network node. | 18:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | or haleyb :) | 18:46 |
| haleyb | yes, that is correct, all via the NN | 18:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | there's an ipv6 address in the fip namespace, but if i set it as the next hop, i get a TTL error | 18:47 |
| Swami | Sam-I-Am: yes the IPv6 traffic will have to go through the SNAT namespace. | 18:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Manjeet Singh Bhatia proposed openstack/neutron: Add api test for create update network and port with dns https://review.openstack.org/354447 | 18:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok, so there's no redundancy of sorts offered for v6 to the same instance that has a v4 fip | 18:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | unless l3ha is implemented with dvr... and i'm not sure how well that works yet | 18:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Shashank Kumar Shankar proposed openstack/neutron: Integration of Port Binding Level OVO in get_binding_levels method in neutron/plugin/ml2/db.py https://review.openstack.org/382037 | 18:49 |
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| Swami | Sam-I-Am: We do have a patch that is work in progress to direct traffic through the FIP namespace, but still we need do some work on IPv6 support. haleyb correct me if I am wrong | 18:49 |
| haleyb | Sam-I-Am: with dvr there's no redundancy for fip traffic - if the compute node is down no fip (and no vm :) | 18:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | haleyb: well, the idea is you dont need a network node | 18:50 |
| manjeets | mlavalle, thanks for feedback I hope now api tests are ready to roll ? | 18:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | so its just... less dependent? :) | 18:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm also curious how service subnets can be used with dvr to avoid burning public ipv4 addresses for each router on each compute node | 18:50 |
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| mlavalle | manjeets: yeah, they look good. Let's wait for Jenkins and I'll review again | 18:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | basically, for each HA feature, i'm writing a set of deployment considerations | 18:51 |
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| mlavalle | manjeets: I'll go grab a bite in a bit. So I'll take a look when I come back | 18:51 |
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| haleyb | Sam-I-Am: you'll need to go to the summit talk to learn about service subnets | 18:51 |
| manjeets | sure mlavalle thanks :) | 18:52 |
| haleyb | Sam-I-Am: actually, it's mostly in the patches, let me find one | 18:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | haleyb: guess who's not going to the summit :) | 18:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | haleyb: pretty sure i approved the service subnet docs in the networking guide, and i understand what they do, just not how they work with DVR | 18:52 |
| haleyb | Sam-I-Am: join the club | 18:53 |
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| Swami | haleyb: For the service subnets to work with DVR don't we need the BGP support to advertise the routes for the private space. | 18:53 |
| haleyb | Sam-I-Am: basically, you need to create or update a subnet with a service_type corresponding to the device_owner of the port in question | 18:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Nakul Dahiwade proposed openstack/neutron: Change IPAM DB API to use context instead of session object. https://review.openstack.org/363206 | 18:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Nakul Dahiwade proposed openstack/neutron: OVO for Ipam(Allocation,Subnet,Pool) https://review.openstack.org/360799 | 18:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Nakul Dahiwade proposed openstack/neutron: Make OVO exception NeutronDbObjectDuplicateEntry retriable https://review.openstack.org/377084 | 18:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Nakul Dahiwade proposed openstack/neutron: Move OVO exceptions to neutron/objects/exceptions https://review.openstack.org/357787 | 18:54 |
| haleyb | Swami: no, it just changes the ipam allocation code | 18:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so, bgp advertising /32s seems like a different kind of solution | 18:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | dvr is all about hiding things at layer 2 | 18:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: MD proxy: remove some imports to reduce memory usage https://review.openstack.org/259398 | 18:56 |
| abhiraut | ping Sukhdev: networking-l2gw gonna have a newton branch soon? | 18:56 |
| Sukhdev | abhiraut : I saw email from garyk - let me ping others on the team to coordinate the release planning - in general, yes | 18:57 |
| abhiraut | awesome thanks! | 18:57 |
| haleyb | Sam-I-Am: right, the BGP thing is different, this is all about what subnet to allocate the IP from - use something other than the public floating IP space | 18:59 |
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| haleyb | Sam-I-Am: a different config than what we wrote in the docs would be to have a subnet with all the device_owner values for the "public" interfaces of the DVR routers | 19:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hmmm | 19:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | i wonder how routing would work | 19:01 |
| Swami | haleyb: once the fip gateway port gets a private address from the service type network, should we need to add a nexthop route in there to reach the public net | 19:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Add required extension to trunk_details descriptor https://review.openstack.org/382624 | 19:02 |
| haleyb | Swami: I believe we tested that and it worked, but there could be some edge case we missed | 19:02 |
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| Swami | haleyb: thanks | 19:03 |
| haleyb | Swami: i thought the same thing as well... | 19:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Mohit Malik proposed openstack/neutron: Integration of OVO for Ipam https://review.openstack.org/365155 | 19:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | James Anziano proposed openstack/neutron: Added UT for floating ips with dns https://review.openstack.org/301809 | 19:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | haleyb: for v6, does routing between self-service nets on the same router reside on the compute nodes? | 19:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | (with dvr) | 19:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: MD proxy: remove some imports to reduce memory usage https://review.openstack.org/259398 | 19:24 |
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| kevinbenton | HenryG: ping | 19:29 |
| HenryG | kevinbenton: pong | 19:30 |
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| kevinbenton | HenryG: i was checking the backlog. that issue tmorin ran into | 19:30 |
| HenryG | kevinbenton: yeah | 19:30 |
| kevinbenton | HenryG: they need to not use lazy='joined' for everything like that | 19:30 |
| kevinbenton | HenryG: unless they are actually using the relationship for information, it's going to make their queries really expensive | 19:31 |
| * tmorin just connecting and seeing my nick come up :) | 19:31 | |
| kevinbenton | tmorin: excellent, didnt see you online | 19:31 |
| tmorin | kevinbenton: what you say makes sense | 19:31 |
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| kevinbenton | tmorin: you don't want to use lazy='joined' so much if a single query can resolve that far | 19:32 |
| kevinbenton | tmorin: to hit 64 tables | 19:32 |
| tmorin | kevinbenton: I think this lazy=joined was just put here because seen done like that in other places | 19:32 |
| kevinbenton | i think our worst one is ports and it's still <10 | 19:32 |
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| tmorin | kevinbenton: yes, that's what we thought when seing the query 8-/ | 19:32 |
| kevinbenton | tmorin: yeah, the only time when you want lazy='joined' is if when you are querying for the parent thing, you always need the data from the relationship | 19:33 |
| tmorin | kevinbenton: but since lazy=joined is used in so many places, we thought there may be a hidden reason to do it like this | 19:33 |
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| tmorin | kevinbenton: we'll look closely, but I don't think we really need that everywhere | 19:34 |
| kevinbenton | tmorin: it's just to avoid many queries if you always query for a parent and its children (by turning it into a join instead of a query for each parent to the child table) | 19:34 |
| tmorin | kevinbenton: the thing is that lazy=joined might be useful for us, in the tables of networking-bgpvpn, but because it's also used in networks, subnets, port in many places, we end up with all the (very deep) tree | 19:34 |
| tmorin | kevinbenton: and the reason why its used in that many places (routers, subnets, ports) is that it was considered that it was the most efficient choice performance-wise ? | 19:36 |
| carl_baldwin | Sam-I-Am: oink? | 19:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Mohit Malik proposed openstack/neutron: Change IPAM DB API to use context instead of session object. https://review.openstack.org/363206 | 19:36 |
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| tmorin | kevinbenton, HenryG: thanks for the discussion ! | 19:37 |
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| kevinbenton | tmorin: yeah, normally when you see lazy='joined', it's because we always need the related objects as well | 19:37 |
| kevinbenton | tmorin: so for performance, we use that to avoid a linear number of queries related to the number of parent objects | 19:38 |
| tmorin | kevinbenton: ok! | 19:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | carl_baldwin: hey, was curious about how to make service subnets work with dvr | 19:41 |
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| carl_baldwin | Sam-I-Am: did you get all you need? | 19:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | carl_baldwin: no, not really | 19:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | carl_baldwin: since service subnets are new, i'd appreciate an update to the DVR scenario once my huge patch merges to maybe explain how to use them | 19:45 |
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| carl_baldwin | Sam-I-Am: We'll get it updated. | 19:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anindita Das proposed openstack/neutron: Integration of Port Binding Level OVO in get_binding_levels method in neutron/plugin/ml2/db.py https://review.openstack.org/382037 | 20:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | Swami: what purpose does the 'qrouter' namespace that pops up on the network node serve? | 20:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | i see it with the snat namespace | 20:15 |
| Swami | Sam-I-Am: It serves the dhcp ports on the network node. | 20:16 |
| haleyb | Sam-I-Am: regarding your question about ipv6, that should be handled in the dvr routers for the local subnets. i'm trying to stack and verify but it keeps barfing | 20:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Swami: what happens if the dhcp agents are on the compute nodes? | 20:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | haleyb: it sort of looks that way. each qrouter namespace contains the same ipv4 and ipv6 router addresses on the self-service subnet. | 20:18 |
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| Swami | Sam-I-Am: Yes it will be created by default when snat_namespace is created for the network node. The router namespace is also utilized for floatingip configuration if you run in all in one node mode. | 20:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Swami: so, for an instance with a fixed v4/v6 ip address, traffic essentially traverses the snat namespace instead of the qrouter namespace as with conventional routers. | 20:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | so the only real change in my traffic flow description would be s/qrouter/snat | 20:23 |
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| Swami | Sam-I-Am: Yes for the north-south. | 20:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nakul Dahiwade proposed openstack/neutron: OVO for NetworkDhcpAgentBinding https://review.openstack.org/370452 | 20:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Henry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron: Extend project_id in object dicts https://review.openstack.org/382659 | 21:08 |
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| jae3988 | Hello. I'm trying to extend the neutron API so that I can issue some extra commands to the DHCP agent from Ironic. What would be the best way to go about doing this? | 21:15 |
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| manjeets | HenryG, ping (regarding use of db field sizes) | 21:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Manjeet Singh Bhatia proposed openstack/neutron: Use db field sizes from neutron-lib https://review.openstack.org/382667 | 21:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | James Anziano proposed openstack/neutron: Add api tempest tests for segments https://review.openstack.org/353115 | 21:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nakul Dahiwade proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Integration of NetworkDhcpAgentBinding OVO https://review.openstack.org/375135 | 21:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Aradhana Singh proposed openstack/neutron: OVO for Tag https://review.openstack.org/356825 | 22:08 |
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| HenryG | manjeets: yes? | 22:09 |
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| manjeets | HenryG, just had a patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382667/ | 22:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: [do not merge]: looking for a patch https://review.openstack.org/382678 | 22:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | armax: i found a wine named 'armando' ... not sure what to make of it. | 23:37 |
| armax | Sam-I-Am: what is it? | 23:38 |
| armax | Sam-I-Am: it’s probably not that good | 23:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | its actually from argentina | 23:38 |
| armax | armando is quite a popular name in the latin world | 23:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, there you go | 23:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | if i sent you a bottle, would you drink yourself? | 23:41 |
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| armax | what is it? | 23:43 |
| armax | malbec? | 23:43 |
| armax | syraz? | 23:44 |
| armax | I would though, yeah :) | 23:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | armax: bonarda | 23:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | originally an italian grape | 23:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Victor Morales proposed openstack/neutron: WIP - Flavor and Service Profile to OVO https://review.openstack.org/306685 | 23:46 |
| armax | interesting | 23:47 |
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| armax | never drank a wine from this grape | 23:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Victor Morales proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Router OVO https://review.openstack.org/307964 | 23:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | me neither | 23:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | never hurts to try new things | 23:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Victor Morales proposed openstack/neutron: Integrate Security Groups OVO https://review.openstack.org/284738 | 23:52 |
| sridhar_ram | armax: howdy! qq, where can i find the full list of all neutron stadium projects? | 23:52 |
| armax | sridhar_ram: on the governace repo | 23:53 |
| armax | http://governance.openstack.org/reference/projects/neutron.html | 23:53 |
| sridhar_ram | armax: cool, thanks! | 23:54 |
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