Wednesday, 2016-07-20

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openstackgerritAradhana Singh proposed openstack/neutron: DHCP Auto Scheduling for Segments  https://review.openstack.org/33371600:25
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Do not send request to neutron-server if tags are None  https://review.openstack.org/34253600:57
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openstackgerritHirofumi Ichihara proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Log request-id for each api call  https://review.openstack.org/34412801:06
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garykarmax: please look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344268/01:07
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otherwiseguykevinbenton: sorry I missed you earlier.01:47
openstackgerritJianGang Weng proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Fix problem of RBAC command arguments  https://review.openstack.org/33483801:50
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Show Adolfo what I mean  https://review.openstack.org/34452601:51
openstackgerritJianGang Weng proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Fix the problem of mox  https://review.openstack.org/33198601:53
openstackgerritJianGang Weng proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Fix the problem of mox  https://review.openstack.org/33198601:55
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openstackgerritAnindita Das proposed openstack/neutron: Refactoring config options for common config opts  https://review.openstack.org/34428102:27
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openstackgerritBo Chi proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: Support vlan transparent network for ml2 ovs driver  https://review.openstack.org/34275502:35
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openstackgerritAbhishek Raut proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add trunk commands to neutronclient  https://review.openstack.org/34062402:43
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Disable using tap devices in the OVS driver  https://review.openstack.org/34454503:09
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openstackgerritAradhana Singh proposed openstack/neutron: Refactoring config options for l3 agent config  https://review.openstack.org/33859603:18
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Testing latest u-c  https://review.openstack.org/30334603:44
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Disable using tap devices in the OVS driver  https://review.openstack.org/34454503:48
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openstackgerrithuan proposed openstack/neutron: XenAPI: add support for conntrack with XenServer  https://review.openstack.org/34130403:53
openstackgerritwei zhang proposed openstack/neutron: Remove execute permission which is added by mistake in midonet  https://review.openstack.org/34455003:53
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openstackgerritAradhana Singh proposed openstack/neutron: Refactoring config options for ml2 config opts  https://review.openstack.org/34022804:01
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sharatsshi Amotoki San04:50
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amotokisharatss: hi04:50
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sharatssamotoki , can we discuss on a blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/router-interface-list04:53
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amotokisharatss: which RFE bug is related to it?05:06
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sharatssamotoki:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1587719 this is the bug05:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1587719 in neutron "no option to view the interfaces attached to router from CLI" [Undecided,Opinion] - Assigned to Sharat Sharma (sharat-sharma)05:07
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amotokisharatss: for the bug, there are several ways to achieve this. one is to change API side to include a list of interfaces attached05:14
sharatssamotoki: yes05:15
amotokisharatss: the other way is to change CLI side to collect interface information.05:15
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gmannamotoki: sharatss : on that does not List port with device_id fulfill the requirement?05:17
sharatssamotoki: it will be better to do on API side and CLI just cover the API05:17
gmannneutron router-port-list <router>  as mentioned in bug05:17
openstackgerritLujin Luo proposed openstack/neutron: Add a composite unique key to floatingip table in Neutron database  https://review.openstack.org/27601805:18
sharatssgmann: amotoki: that does not fulfil the requirement05:18
gmannamotoki: sharatss : if not and we want direct API for that then i will also suggest to add on API side05:18
gmannsharatss: but that will list all port of that router right05:18
openstackgerritLujin Luo proposed openstack/neutron: Add a unique key to port_id in routerports table  https://review.openstack.org/28504805:19
openstackgerritLujin Luo proposed openstack/neutron: Clean up excess dhcp-agents scheduled to a network  https://review.openstack.org/28827105:19
sharatssgmann: yes. But what if we have to find out the status of the interface?05:19
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sharatssgmann: dashboard has the status field but there is no way user can know the status of interface from CLi05:20
openstackgerritQuan Tian proposed openstack/neutron: Check compatibility when auto schedule ha routers  https://review.openstack.org/33679105:20
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amotokisharatss: gmann: it is a balance. "neutron router-port-list <router-id>" does the job. it contains port status.05:21
gmannsharatss: well we can actually with port show, but that might be too much operation for user :)05:21
gmannamotoki: oh, is it05:21
amotokigmann: yes. it isn't include in the default columns though05:22
gmannamotoki: yea, you are right. it has all info of all ports.05:22
amotokifor example, neutron router-port-list my-router -c id -c fixed_ips -c status05:23
gmannamotoki: yea, i saw that. nice05:24
amotokisharatss: gmann: i think we can add an attribute like interfaces to a router resource, but then we will have another question what kind of information should be included.05:24
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gmannamotoki: sharatss i see. nice idea. may be router id is enough.05:25
amotokisharatss: gmann: port ID list or full information.. i'd like to avoid a situation that we change contents if port resource has some new attrs.05:25
sharatssgmann: amotoki: We can actually add the interface and status05:25
gmannamotoki: sharatss true. information available in port all the time should be in default column05:27
gmannamotoki: sharatss so adding status and router_id there in default column may be enough?05:28
sharatssamotoki: gmann: I mean when we do an "neutron router-show router_id" the table must contain the list of interfaces attached to it05:28
amotokigmann: i don't think we need router_id as we already specify router_id to CLI.05:28
sharatssI actually have another concern here05:29
sharatssGmann: amotoki: what if we have to bring an interface down?05:29
gmannamotoki: humm, yea filter is with router_id only so make sense05:30
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amotokisharatss: it is a new topic.05:31
sharatssamotoki: yes05:31
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amotokisharatss: have we finished the previous one?05:31
sharatssamotoki: I wamted to have a discussion on this and raise a BP for this05:31
gmannsharatss: router-show does include that in external_fixed_ips right? is this what you want to show there right05:31
gmannamotoki: sharatss i think no :)05:31
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gmannsharatss: amotoki so on first topic, including  status field in default column enough right?05:34
gmannamotoki: sharatss which means no new API needed as listed in BP- https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/router-interface-list05:34
openstackgerritIWAMOTO Toshihiro proposed openstack/neutron: fullstack: Add security group tests  https://review.openstack.org/34132805:35
sharatssamotoki: gmann: I want to see the interfaces attached and their status in router-show table as interface is also an attribute of router05:35
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sharatssgmann: amotoki: or we can have a new API "router-interface-list" to list all the interfaces and their attributes05:36
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amotokisharatss: I still haven't understood why you need this kind of information in the output of router-show05:40
amotokisharatss: isn't it enough? GET v2.0/ports.json?device_id=<router_id>05:40
sharatssamotoki: I can tell you a scenario. If the OVS is down and we add an interface, the interface gets successfully added but its status will be down05:41
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sharatssamotoki: in this case there is no other way except horizon to find the status of the interface05:41
amotokisharatss: the above example API request returns all information you want. Am I missing something?05:42
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amotokisharatss: I think you are talking about the default configuraiton of CLI.05:42
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gmannsharatss: that what it will include if you add 'status' in default column list  or run CLI with -c status05:43
gmannas amotoki mentioned - GET v2.0/ports.json?device_id=<router_id> will give all information of attached interfaces to that router05:44
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amotokisharatss: -v option dumps API req and response. it will help you know what information is returned.05:45
amotokisharatss: for example, try 'neutron -v router-port-list <router-id>'05:45
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sharatssamotoki: gmann: yes. I tried them out. It seems fine05:49
amotokisharatss: good to hear that. the default columns may need to be visited though.05:50
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sharatssamotoki: so can we add status in the default column?05:52
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amotokisharatss: actually, it is common to all resources. it's not specific to router-port-list.05:52
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sakthiHi required help, between Vm has pining but gateway is not pining from Vm05:53
amotokisharatss: it might be better to discuss it in the bug. personally it sounds useful to have status in port-list/router-port-list.05:53
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sharatssamotoki: sure. will try to work on that05:55
gmannamotoki: sharatss +105:55
hichiharasakthi: you should go to https://ask.openstack.org/en/questions/05:55
sharatssgmann: amotoki: can we go to the second topic now?05:56
amotokisharatss: i have a schedule from 3pm05:57
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sharatssamotoki: ok. whenever you are free. thanks for taking out time for me05:57
sakthihichihara: This is due to internal network pbm, I suspect that its a port prbm, where I've to get a help05:58
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hichiharasakthi: Network connection issues are often reported and solved in https://ask.openstack.org/06:02
hichiharasakthi: I think that you can find similar issue and solution there.06:02
sakthihichihara: thank u06:03
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openstackgerritReedip proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Provide support for net-router-list  https://review.openstack.org/29918906:14
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kevinbentongaryk: ping06:15
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garyk1kevinbenton: whats up06:25
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kevinbentongaryk: i left a comment in reply to yours on the veth patch06:26
kevinbentongaryk1: i think vmware would be affected by the same bug06:26
garyk1ok, will take a look06:26
kevinbentongaryk1: unless you aren't using namespaces06:26
garyk1we are using namespaces.06:26
garyk1if you recall when we dropped the veth the devices did not come up. so it will be effectively breaking things06:27
garyk1what OS are you using? which OVS version?06:27
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kevinbentongaryk1: this patches forces the use of veths06:28
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kevinbentongaryk1: not eliminating them06:29
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garyk1shit my bad - then it will work.06:30
kevinbentongaryk1: no worries. vmware is already using veths right?06:31
kevinbentongaryk1: to deal with that status issue06:31
garyk1yes, we alsways do iniset $Q_DHCP_CONF_FILE DEFAULT ovs_use_veth True06:31
kevinbentongaryk1: ok cool06:31
garyk1if you recall there was a patch to deprecate the option andf it broke the world.06:31
garyk1i'll chang emy score. damn jetlag06:31
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kevinbentongaryk1: no prob. i need to respin anyway to fix functional tests06:31
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kevinbentongaryk1: yeah, the deprecation was actually to get rid of the option to use veths06:32
kevinbentongaryk1: it's a good thing we didn't follow through06:32
kevinbentongaryk1: didn't realize how unsupported this was by OVS06:32
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garyk1oh yeah06:33
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openstackgerritBo Chi proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: Support vlan transparent network for ml2 ovs driver  https://review.openstack.org/34275506:35
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openstackgerritBrandon Logan proposed openstack/neutron: Pecan: Handle member actions  https://review.openstack.org/34458106:45
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openstackgerritIWAMOTO Toshihiro proposed openstack/neutron: fullstack: Add security group tests  https://review.openstack.org/34132807:23
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openstackgerritRodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Add QoS minimum egress bandwidth rule into ovs-agent  https://review.openstack.org/31853107:48
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openstackgerritRodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/neutron: Add QoS minimum bandwidth rule for instance egress traffic  https://review.openstack.org/34414507:57
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Include [agent] extensions option into ovs/linuxbridge agent files  https://review.openstack.org/34110308:50
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openstackgerritLewis proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: [WIP]Add connection API cases  https://review.openstack.org/33806108:54
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slunkad_ihrachys: rossella_s could you please comment on the sg patches for ovo? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275664/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/28473809:00
rossella_sslunkad_, will do :)09:00
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slunkad_rossella_s: thanks!09:01
rossella_sslunkad_, thank you for working hard on this09:01
slunkad_rossella_s: :)09:02
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Disable using tap devices in the OVS driver  https://review.openstack.org/34454509:50
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kevinbentonjlibosva, ihrachys: hey, the patch above intends to address a bug10:16
kevinbentonhttps://review.openstack.org/344545 if you don't have scrollback10:16
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kevinbentonif you read the related bug report, it seems OVS gives the same ofport to multiple interfaces10:16
jlibosvakevinbenton: I already looked (briefly). Do you think it would make sense to run couple of tests with ovs2.5 to see whether the issue is still there10:17
kevinbentonso the issue is that it's difficult to reproduce10:17
kevinbentoni have this script10:17
kevinbentonhttps://gist.github.com/kevinbenton/e8a323b61ac6145f9293ef90dbdec0b110:17
kevinbentonthat plugs and unplugs the way the dhcp agent and VMs do10:18
kevinbentonbut it doesn't repro the issue10:18
kevinbentonit only shows up in the gate occasionally10:18
kevinbentonit's hard to get stats because we don't have a good signature10:18
jlibosvawhat ovs version do you have?10:19
kevinbentonit's easy to see in the vswitchd log duplicate ports10:19
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kevinbentonbut it's not a single-line query to write for logstash10:19
kevinbenton2.0.310:19
kevinbenton2.0.2***10:19
kevinbentonsorry10:19
kevinbentonthat's what's in the gate10:19
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Remove execute permission which is added by mistake in midonet  https://review.openstack.org/34455010:31
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ihrachyskevinbenton: looking. I think ajo was also looking at it yesterday.10:34
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kevinbentonihrachys: ajo is now looking for the command to increase vswitchd logging10:35
kevinbentonihrachys: if we can get that turned on in the gate we can maybe be certain of the root cause10:35
ihrachyskevinbenton: yeah, I heard there are like 100+ log knobs10:35
ihrachyskevinbenton: 'maybe be certain' that's the spirit! :)10:36
kevinbentonihrachys: :)10:36
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ihrachyskevinbenton: in terms of performance, is there a risk to degrade significantly?10:36
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ihrachysthat's another bunch of devices in the middle.10:36
kevinbentonihrachys: now that we have multiple agents attached to OVS via ovsdb protocol and openflow and nova using vsctl we don't have a nice linear order of command line calls that easily duplicate things10:37
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kevinbentonihrachys: ajo was measuring that. looks like %10 loss of throughput locally10:38
kevinbentonihrachys: from each veth10:38
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ihrachysso more like 20%?10:38
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openstackgerritDongcan Ye proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Install Libreswan for CentOS7  https://review.openstack.org/34472310:39
ihrachysor you mean per pair?10:39
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ajoihrachys, each jump through a veth10:42
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ajoveth pair I mean10:42
jlibosvaajo: re vswitchd logging: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304600/16/devstack/lib/ovs@11410:43
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jlibosvamight be handy :)10:43
ajooh thanks, kevinbenton and I were looking at what vlogs to set as debug10:44
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ajoihrachys, do you know where to set that on the gate? (we could plug it into the pluggin) but I guess general runs don't depend on our devstack plugin10:44
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ihrachysajo: should we at least have the discussion on the issue and the fix proposed, including performance implications, in openstack-dev@? that is not a decision to make lightly.10:44
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kevinbentonihrachys: i think wait until maybe we can get a little more root cause10:45
kevinbentonihrachys: that's why we are turning up logging on vswitchd10:45
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ihrachysajo: I think you want to update devstack-gate/devstack for that. maybe devstack to expose configuration, then devstack-gate to enable it.10:46
ihrachyskevinbenton: + on the path10:46
ajoexactly10:46
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ajoihrachys, agreed, I believe kevinbenton agrees too10:46
ajofor subsystem in netdev netdev_linux netdev_vport poll_loop netlink netlink_notifier ; do ovs-appctl vlog/set $subsystem:file:dbg; done for now10:46
ajoI'm working on a bash reproducer kevinbenton started10:47
ajoto see if I get it to work10:47
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ajoif that works, we can pass it to the OVS team to get a fix, they already agreed that could be fixed even if it's netns related10:47
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Increase ovs-vswitchd logging for debugging  https://review.openstack.org/34473110:50
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ajokevinbenton, but is that triggerer on all gate runs ?10:51
ajoI thought we only used the plugin sometimes, but may be that changed10:51
kevinbentonajo: i'll watch the tempest logs where we've seen the failures10:51
ajoack10:51
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Testing latest u-c  https://review.openstack.org/30334610:58
ihrachyskevinbenton: how often do we catch it in gate? maybe not stats based, but least what's perception?10:58
kevinbentonihrachys: not sure. armax has pointed it out to me about 3 different times10:59
kevinbentonihrachys: but that depends on how cranky he is :)10:59
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kevinbentonihrachys: so it's hard to tell how often it happens in larger picture10:59
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Increment revision numbers on object changes  https://review.openstack.org/30396611:00
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Add callbacks for networks and subnets in ML2  https://review.openstack.org/33672911:01
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ihrachyskevinbenton: would be cool to see your review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336805/ (migration for old networks to new MTUs)11:02
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kevinbentonihrachys: change looks pretty good. the only thing i was hesitant about before when we chatted about this was the fact that backends don't get notified when this changes11:09
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kevinbentonihrachys: even agents for example won't get net update events11:09
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kevinbentonihrachys: so if an operator changes this, it's not like it will actually do anything unless they restart everything11:10
ihrachyskevinbenton: right. the assumption would be, you need to restart your agent (which will happen on upgrade)11:10
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ihrachyskevinbenton: btw we discussed that on previous upgrades meeting11:11
ihrachyskevinbenton: I think it's similar to other cases where we allow to change configuration on server side but we don't upgrade all agents.11:11
kevinbentonihrachys: it's more than just upgrade. i think we want to add a note to the config option for global physnet MTU11:11
kevinbentonihrachys: it's any change to config11:11
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kevinbentonihrachys: won't be propagated until resyncs of everything11:11
ihrachyskevinbenton: you want me to expand text for the option to elaborate how to propagate the change?11:12
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Add new attributes to trunk model  https://review.openstack.org/34121711:12
kevinbentonihrachys: yeah, i think that should be enough11:12
ihrachyskevinbenton: ack, lemme take on it11:12
kevinbentonihrachys: just so they see it right in the help text for the option11:12
kevinbentonihrachys: and maybe even mention that VMs need to have their interface detached re-attached as well11:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Ensure test_cleanup_stale_devices fails gracefully  https://review.openstack.org/34446811:14
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Fix wait_until_true condition in dhcp test  https://review.openstack.org/34476011:19
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Add API tests for revision numbers  https://review.openstack.org/32818711:22
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Calculate MTU on every network fetch instead of on create  https://review.openstack.org/33680511:28
ihrachyskevinbenton: release note and config option text updated ^11:28
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kevinbentonihrachys: looks good. thx for quick turnaround11:31
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openstackgerritJohn Davidge proposed openstack/neutron: Enable CRUD for Subnet Service Types  https://review.openstack.org/33785111:43
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Increase ovs-vswitchd logging for debugging  https://review.openstack.org/34473111:55
kevinbentonajo: yeah, that wasn't the right place for that logging11:55
kevinbenton^^11:55
kevinbentonajo:  i think that one should be better11:55
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openstackgerritAnn Taraday proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Refactor setting OSprofiler for db calls  https://review.openstack.org/34032412:16
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openstackgerritAnn Taraday proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Refactor setting OSprofiler for db calls  https://review.openstack.org/34032412:23
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jschwarzkevinbenton, ping, re: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/159932912:34
openstackLaunchpad bug 1599329 in neutron "Potential regression on handing over DHCP addresses to VMs" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton)12:34
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kevinbentonjschwarz: hey12:34
jschwarzkevinbenton, hey12:34
jschwarzkevinbenton, did you manage to reproduce this locally?12:34
kevinbentonjschwarz: nope12:35
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kevinbentonjschwarz: all we have to go on are the gate failures right now12:35
jschwarzkevinbenton, interesting12:35
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jschwarzkevinbenton, this sounds like something we've encountered as well12:35
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jschwarzkevinbenton, where after a while there would be hundreds (if not thousands) of orphaned qvo and tap devices12:36
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jschwarzkevinbenton, we = at redhat12:37
openstackgerritBence Romsics proposed openstack/neutron: New exception for deleting a trunk having subports  https://review.openstack.org/34480312:37
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kevinbentonjschwarz: well in this case they aren't orphaned. they are both active ports12:37
kevinbentonjschwarz: but ovs is giving them both the same ofport number12:37
jschwarzkevinbenton, "both" implies only 2 ports?12:38
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kevinbentonjschwarz: yes, in each failure so far it's been two ports that are assigned the same ofport12:39
jschwarzkevinbenton, lemme look12:39
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jschwarzkevinbenton, i'll look into it and post in the launchpad if I find something interesting12:50
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openstackgerritAndreas Scheuring proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Spec for providing Nova portbinding information for live migration  https://review.openstack.org/30941612:56
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openstackgerritRodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/neutron: Add QoS minimum bandwidth rule for instance egress traffic  https://review.openstack.org/34414512:59
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Fix wait_until_true condition in dhcp test  https://review.openstack.org/34476013:21
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sc68calihrachys: looks like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343024/ didn't move the needle when it comes to multinode grenade14:02
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ihrachyssc68cal: proof?14:02
sc68calhttp://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate14:02
sc68calhttp://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=5&fullscreen14:02
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amullerotherwiseguy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/160481614:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1604816 in neutron "native ovsdb seems to return before finishing adding/removing port" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton)14:04
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amullerotherwiseguy: according to kevinbenton it's a problem when adding an interface in a specific case too14:05
otherwiseguyI'll just post my patch for him to try.14:05
otherwiseguyamuller: ^14:05
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ihrachyssc68cal: that's 24h average14:05
otherwiseguyWorking around it everywhere is not the best solution.14:05
amullerotherwiseguy: I think your patch has a very different strategy than kevinbenton's14:05
ihrachyssc68cal: also, we should get into logs to see if new failures are the same.14:05
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kevinbentonotherwiseguy, amuller: if you have an actual fix for the db client i would much rather prefer that14:08
kevinbentoni'm just annoyed with the constant functional failures related to interfaces that should clearly be there based on the logs14:08
kevinbenton:)14:08
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amullerthat makes sense :)14:09
kevinbentonsc68cal: i had no idea where to put this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344858/14:09
otherwiseguykevinbenton: hopefully https://review.openstack.org/344859 fixes it. I need to test the performance.14:09
ihrachyssc68cal: ok, I found one failure since the patch landed14:09
ihrachyssc68cal: http://logs.openstack.org/51/337851/8/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron-multinode/ac55f7e/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz14:09
kevinbentonsc68cal: we need some extra ovs logging14:09
ihrachyssc68cal: that's for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337851/14:10
kevinbentonsc68cal: in tempest jobs14:10
ihrachysso yeah, it did not help. :-|14:10
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otherwiseguykevinbenton: And maybe clean up a bit, but I figured I'd throw it up for people to look at/test.14:10
njohnstonjschwarz: May I pick your brain about a fullstack test I would like to write?  At your convenience.14:10
openstackgerritVasyl Saienko proposed openstack/neutron: Add BaremetalMechanismDriver driver.  https://review.openstack.org/33912914:10
jschwarznjohnston, sure, go ahead14:10
jschwarznjohnston, but I'm in meetings for the next hour or so, so my response time might not be good14:11
kevinbentonihrachys, sc68cal: don't you need my patch before that will clear up?14:11
kevinbentonotherwise i don't see how the external gateway MTU will be right14:12
ihrachyskevinbenton: which one, for l3 agent?14:12
ihrachysbr-ex currently br-ex mtu is 1450 there14:12
otherwiseguykevinbenton: (I'll make an actual commit message describing things better, linking to bugs, etc.)14:12
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kevinbentonihrachys: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343072/14:12
kevinbentonihrachys: is the physical interface also 1450 then?14:12
njohnstonjschwarz: That's all right, please respond whenever is convenient.  I very much appreciate it.  The test is for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339246/ - I would like to create a dummy L3 agent extension and load it.14:13
ihrachyskevinbenton: those are 1500 in gate. but clarkb told ping will pick br-ex mtu since that's the device caring the IP14:13
ihrachyssorry, ping -> ssh14:13
njohnstonjschwarz: The idea would be that the test would send router events through RPC, and then we'd be able to check and make sure the correct handler methods had been invoked.  My problem is that I am not sure how best to have a test that both defines the dummy extension for loading into the agent, as well as has the control side to send rpc messages to the agent.14:14
ihrachyskevinbenton: you can find interface setup in http://logs.openstack.org/51/337851/8/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron-multinode/ac55f7e/logs/worlddump-2016-07-20-122610.txt.gz14:14
kevinbentonotherwiseguy: ack14:14
ihrachyskevinbenton: so now, br-ex and qg and qr and br-int and qbr and qvo/b and tap, all have 145014:15
jschwarznjohnston, so what you want to do IMO is add the extension as an actual file (i.e. a file that behaves like a real, non-test-like, extension is written) and then change the configuration options so that it will load the extension14:16
kevinbentonihrachys: ah yeah, if it's originating at br-ex it should be fine14:16
jschwarznjohnston, think "I have a new extension but it must be placed in some other directory than the usual one, and now I must load it", only in fullstack14:16
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jschwarznjohnston, on the subject of RPC, there's no real way to interface with Neutron other than API calls14:16
njohnstonjschwarz: Sounds about right.  But how can I convey the state back from the dummy extension back to the test so I know the extension was invoked the way I think it should have been?14:17
jschwarznjohnston, uhm...14:17
jschwarzso... uhm...14:17
njohnstonThat is the rock upon which I founder.14:17
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njohnstonWithout it I figure I'm just testing Stevedore.14:18
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jschwarznjohnston, so basically you have the extension code and the test code and you'd normally want the test code to block until the extension code returns something valid14:19
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jschwarzi.e. "my_extension.wait_until_rpc_received()"14:19
njohnstonyes, somehow14:19
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jschwarznjohnston, an "easy" solution is, for example, using unix sockets to transfer information to and from14:20
jschwarzso like, a named pipe (IPC)14:20
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njohnstonHmm, that is possible... I worry about it being brittle but I can't think of anything better.14:20
jschwarznjohnston, actually opening a proper TCP socket is even better14:20
jschwarzthat will provide the TCP benefits of "ack" for each message, to add to reliability that unix sockets don't14:21
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njohnstongood point14:21
jschwarzand since it's all localhost the latency is next to zero since it doesn't leave kernel space14:21
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jschwarzI probably wouldn't even look at something more complicated like rabbitmq because... blah.14:22
njohnstonagreed on that14:22
njohnstonjschwarz: Thanks for the ideas!  I really appreciate it, and I think that gives me plenty to go with.  Thanks!14:22
jschwarznjohnston, and then the "wait_until_rpc" on the test code side will be "wait until the extension sends a packet that means that an rpc was sent"14:22
jschwarzcan even json/pickle some construct for easy message-forwarding14:23
jschwarznjohnston, welcome! add me as a reviewer and I promise I'll review it :)14:23
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njohnstonjschwarz: Will do!14:23
HenryGakamyshnikova_: ping14:25
clarkbihrachys: kevinbenton in particular the route to the fip network is via br-ex so it should determine frame size on that14:27
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kevinbentonihrachys: can we see the console of that vm to make sure it set the MTU from dhcp?14:27
rossella_sslunkad_, korzen_ sorry for the slow reply, I finally commented on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284738 ,we need the is_default field, I don't agree with you :)14:27
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: DVR: Clean stale snat-ns by checking its existence when agent restarts  https://review.openstack.org/32672914:28
kevinbentonihrachys: if we're failing to receive the key from the VM, it's likely that the traffic from VM coming back is getting dropped somewhere14:28
kevinbentonihrachys: because that would be the large packet14:28
ihrachyskevinbenton: or request for the key did not reach the VM14:28
ihrachyskevinbenton: worlddump files usually contain consoles, but I don't see one for that cinder resource14:30
ihrachysI see one for nova-server114:30
kevinbentonihrachys: IIRC the key request is smaller than 1400 bytes14:30
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kevinbentonihrachys: but that's based on old memory14:31
kevinbenton:)14:31
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ihrachyskevinbenton: overall, it's weird that in worlddump, we don't ever get consoles for all instances, just one14:34
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Testing latest u-c  https://review.openstack.org/30334614:39
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kevinbentonotherwiseguy: it's worth noting that in the failure case where it was a missing a created port it was a rapid create/delete/create14:39
kevinbentonotherwiseguy: not sure if that changes anything14:39
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ihrachyskevinbenton: btw I don't think cirros shows MTU recieved with a lease14:43
ihrachysit handles the option, but does not indicate it on tty14:43
kevinbentonihrachys: oh dang, i was hoping it was in the interface info dump14:43
ihrachysthere is 'network info'14:44
ihrachysbut no mtu14:44
ihrachysjust addresses, state, name14:44
ihrachys+ routes14:44
Sam-I-Amyou'd have to run the ip/ifconfig command to see the mtu14:44
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ihrachyskevinbenton: btw, what's your timezone these days? it's very late for your usual home, isn't it?14:45
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Sam-I-Amkevin does not believe in time14:45
kevinbentonSam-I-Am: unfortunately this is automated, we can't issue commands14:45
Sam-I-Amkevinbenton: yeah, hence the problem14:45
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Sam-I-Amguess one could patch cirros14:45
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ihrachyskevinbenton: we could probably make cirros expose that, but that's a long road14:45
kevinbentonihrachys: might be worth asking infra to freeze a failure for us14:45
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kevinbentonihrachys: i'm not sure if it's a trap they put in the failure detection or how it works exactly14:46
davidshaQuestion, when I'm using the OvS agent, how do I make it use OvS rather than native?14:47
kevinbentonihrachys: but i think there is a way we can get access to an env14:47
ihrachysdavidsha: does not compute. 'native' interfaces are still ovs14:47
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kevinbentondavidsha: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/releasenotes/notes/of_interface-native-by-default-0c07bdbd7365230a.yaml14:50
kevinbentondavidsha: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/releasenotes/notes/ovsdb-native-by-default-38835d6963592396.yaml14:50
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davidshaihrachys: Ok, thanks?14:50
davidshakevinbenton: Thank you!14:50
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davidshaihrachys: thanks*14:50
ihrachysdavidsha: you are welcome? :)14:51
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ihrachyskevinbenton: hm, then network that we use to connect the instance to router is vxlan14:53
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ihrachyskevinbenton: so the correct mtu to use for all intermediate devices is 1400 or so14:54
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kevinbentonihrachys: why?14:54
ihrachysto accommodate for overhead14:54
kevinbentonihrachys: but the actual network is 1500 isn't it?14:54
ihrachyskevinbenton: because infra is 145014:54
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ihrachyskevinbenton: for multinode, we run infra network in tunnels14:55
Sam-I-Amif its multinode, the inter-node stuff already has overhead14:55
kevinbentonihrachys: then why aren't we setting global_physnet_mtu to that?14:55
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Sam-I-Amwhich i think is gre, not vxlan (oddly)14:55
ihrachyskevinbenton: that's actually a patch I have for that14:55
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ihrachysSam-I-Am: kevinbenton: https://review.openstack.org/34297514:55
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Sam-I-Amof course, we also need to set path_mtu, because path_mtu :/14:55
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ihrachysSam-I-Am: oh right, for mitaka!14:56
openstackgerritRodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/neutron: Add QoS minimum bandwidth rule for instance egress traffic  https://review.openstack.org/34414514:56
ihrachysSam-I-Am: or do we need it to raise MTU only?14:56
* ihrachys checks the code14:56
kevinbentonSam-I-Am, ihrachys: it chooses larger of the 2 IIRC14:56
kevinbentoni mean smaller14:56
openstackgerritSindhu Devale proposed openstack/neutron: Refactoring db config options  https://review.openstack.org/34487714:57
kevinbentonso it should be okay14:57
ihrachysok, then it's good14:57
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ihrachysso our bet now is getting global_physnet_mtu usage patch in and hope for the best?14:57
Sam-I-Amapparently path_mtu defaults to 1500, so in cases where you set global_physnet_mtu to > 1500, your tunnel nets will still use 150014:57
Sam-I-Ambut for < 1500, its fine14:57
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kevinbentonihrachys: yep14:58
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kevinbentonihrachys: i thought 1500 was the correct setting for infra14:58
openstackgerritVasyl Saienko proposed openstack/neutron: Add BaremetalMechanismDriver driver.  https://review.openstack.org/33912914:58
ihrachyskevinbenton: kevinbenton https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/master/devstack-vm-gate.sh#L5714:58
Sam-I-Amreality is we probably need to rename path_mtu to something more informative, and then default it to the value of global_physnet_mtu unless you specifically set it14:59
ihrachyskevinbenton: it's described in https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/master/multinode_setup_info.txt#L8114:59
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Sam-I-Amthe patch defaulting path_mtu to 1500 occurred during the "why are all these values messed up" era prior to fixing the actual mtu problem14:59
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ihrachyswell, we already made several changes to its default, maybe it's time to swallow the pride and stop :)15:00
kevinbentonthe current default is fine15:01
kevinbentonit's 015:01
kevinbentonwhich means it will be skipped15:01
ihrachysianw: hi. would you mind reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342975/1 that should hopefully fix multinode grenade for neutron?15:02
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ihrachyssc68cal: so, what's the direction for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342493/7 ? neutron-legacy not getting any features?15:18
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Deprecate implicit loading of service_providers from neutron_*.conf  https://review.openstack.org/34204815:18
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bodenHenryG dougwig: FYI a few items for neutron-lib agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Lib/Meetings#Open_Discussion15:21
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ihrachyssc68cal: kevinbenton: Sam-I-Am: ok, the patch is in gate, now we again wait and validate in grafana15:21
ihrachyssc68cal: thanks for raising the flag, it helped15:21
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Deprecate implicit loading of service_providers from neutron_*.conf  https://review.openstack.org/34204815:22
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Deprecate implicit loading of service_providers from neutron_*.conf  https://review.openstack.org/34204815:23
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ihrachyskevinbenton: Sam-I-Am: sc68cal: while we are at mtu, it's probably a good time to go forward with killing network_device_mtu completely: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342958/15:34
openstackgerritAradhana Singh proposed openstack/neutron: Refactoring config options for l3 agent config  https://review.openstack.org/33859615:34
kevinbentonihrachys: did nova eliminate it yet?15:34
ihrachyskevinbenton: no, it's in tree15:35
ihrachyslemme craft a patch to remove it15:35
ihrachysoh there is one15:35
ihrachyshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/319543/15:36
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openstackgerritCarlos Goncalves proposed openstack/neutron: Fix module import path in RPC callback example  https://review.openstack.org/34489115:40
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yohoffmanHey there, we have a bug filed in horizon to change the name of a security rule for all ports from ``ALLOW -1:-1/icmp from 0.0.0.0/0`` to ``ALLOW any port/icmp from 0.0.0.0/0``. Is there anyone here who could recommend if this is a good change or not?15:42
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openstackgerritTrevor McCasland proposed openstack/neutron: Add setter to status in PortContext  https://review.openstack.org/33606815:45
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kevinbentonihrachys: you said you have logic now that forces br-ex to a reduced MTU?15:47
kevinbentonihrachys: in devstack15:47
kevinbentonihrachys: or is it global_physnet_mtu?15:47
kevinbentonihrachys: because we need br-ex to be global_physnet_mtu after my patch goes in15:47
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ihrachyskevinbenton: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343024/ made devstack to call 'ip link' to set mtu for br-ex15:49
ihrachyskevinbenton: and with the other patch currently in gate, we make use of global_physnet_mtu with the same value15:49
amullerif you need to make immediate changes to devstack because of neutron changes to conf options we'd probably want to send an email to openstack-dev to flag to other installers that they also need to make changes15:49
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ihrachysamuller: we flag them with release notes15:50
amullerisn't that too late?15:50
ihrachysamuller: we have deprecation section there for a reason15:50
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ihrachysamuller: late? we released the new option in Mitaka, everyone who cares already saw the note suggesting the switch15:50
amullerok I was thinking you're making additional changes now15:51
ihrachysnow we are going to apply the note suggestion to our own gate, and remove the deprecated option15:51
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ihrachysI appreciate you advocate for users ;)15:51
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amulleradvocate is my middle name15:51
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openstackgerritManjeet Singh Bhatia proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor get_object in object/db/api  https://review.openstack.org/34443415:57
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Removed smoke tags from *SearchCriteriaTest test cases  https://review.openstack.org/34490315:59
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dougwigboden: ack16:07
dougwigboden: and thanks16:07
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/34337116:21
electrocucaracharossella_s: ping?16:21
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rossella_selectrocucaracha, pong16:22
electrocucarachahey rossella_s, how things are going?16:22
rossella_sgood and you?16:22
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electrocucarachait could be better, I had the opportunity to give a training in GDL, Mex16:23
electrocucarachaso I'm taking advantage and visiting my family16:23
electrocucarachahehe16:23
rossella_swow16:23
electrocucaracharossella_s: anyway, going back to business... regarding OVO16:23
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electrocucaracharossella_s: I remember that you suggest to have something to reduce the duplicate thing for tenant_id fields16:24
electrocucaracharossella_s: I like the idea but I would like to know if some progress has been done in that particular thing16:25
rossella_selectrocucaracha, give me some pointer16:25
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/34005516:25
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electrocucaracharossella_s: I'm still trying to look for the place that you made the coment16:27
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openstackgerritboden proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Update hacking check consumption  https://review.openstack.org/33350016:31
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electrocucaracharossella_s: I gave up, I couldn't find the place where you suggested16:34
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electrocucaracharossella_s: so by the way, regarding tenant_id we are going to keep them as other normal ovo field, and there won't be reuse code right?16:37
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rossella_selectrocucaracha, there's some discussion here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33100916:42
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electrocucaracharossella_s: good catch!!!16:43
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electrocucaracharossella_s: so at the end it seems like korzen_ will try do something16:44
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ihrachyskevinbenton: ping16:47
ihrachyskevinbenton: so I am thinking of switch to global_physnet_mtu in devstack-gate16:48
ihrachyskevinbenton: and I realise we have multinode grenade job in mitaka gate16:48
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ihrachyskevinbenton: that would start from liberty cloud16:48
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ihrachysthat does not know about the option16:48
ihrachysin which case, we may probably have problems in mitaka gate.16:48
ihrachysis my line of thought correct?16:48
kevinbentonihrachys: is devstack-gate not branched?16:49
ihrachysnope16:49
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kevinbentonihrachys: yeah, that might be a problem then16:49
ihrachysok, the patch landed already16:49
ihrachysafaik the job is in multiple gates, not just neutron16:50
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kevinbentonihrachys: what's the default mtu in liberty?16:50
ihrachys0? :)16:50
kevinbentonihrachys: and won't things still be using network_device_mtu in liberty?16:51
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kevinbentonihrachys: or was network_device_mtu change also devstack-gate?16:51
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ihrachysyeah, but since we switched devstack-gate that is not branched to global_physnet_mtu, it will be no-op there16:51
ihrachyskevinbenton: we just landed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342975/16:51
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ihrachyslemme pick a mitaka backport and recheck now16:52
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ihrachyskevinbenton: we can catch it in devstack-gate by checking what's GRENADE_OLD_BRANCH16:54
ihrachyskevinbenton: but then, we still have the MTU issue16:54
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kevinbentonihrachys: well if it's mitaka/liberty we can use segment_mtu16:55
kevinbentonihrachys: can we just look at branch?16:55
ihrachyskevinbenton: I think we can, we have the OLD_BRANCH as I said above16:56
ihrachyskevinbenton: let's see if the backport fails in gate, and if so, I will craft some patch.16:56
kevinbentonihrachys: i mean for just regular stable tempest is OLD_BRANCH set?16:56
ihrachyswe should be able to validate it before landing, thru Depends-On16:56
ihrachyskevinbenton: for regular tempest, we don't care much16:57
ihrachyskevinbenton: because we did not have multinode jobs in liberty16:57
kevinbentonihrachys: ok16:57
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ihrachysit's only grenade that pulled liberty into our scope16:57
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kevinbentonihrachys: i gtg for now16:57
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ihrachyskevinbenton: you should have done it hours ago!17:01
ihrachyskevinbenton: cheers17:01
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openstackgerritRawlin Peters proposed openstack/neutron: Add trunk create/delete notifications and augment subport notifications  https://review.openstack.org/34121217:06
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manjeets-rossella_s, ping17:25
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openstackgerritRichard Theis proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: DNM: Test OSC plugin job  https://review.openstack.org/34494617:28
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openstackgerritRyan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing: Rename DB columns: tenant -> project  https://review.openstack.org/34244417:28
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Check compatibility when auto schedule ha routers  https://review.openstack.org/33679117:44
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Add RouterPort binding to ha interface creation  https://review.openstack.org/27457117:46
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Use DEVICE_OWNER_COMPUTE_PREFIX from neutron-lib  https://review.openstack.org/34339617:46
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openstackgerritPetra Sargent proposed openstack/neutron: Adds documention for designing a IPAM driver in Neutron  https://review.openstack.org/28946018:15
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openstackgerritSana Khan proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Adding Port Statistics to Neutron Metering Agent  https://review.openstack.org/34497718:23
openstackgerritAnindita Das proposed openstack/neutron: Refactoring config options for common config opts  https://review.openstack.org/34428118:24
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openstackgerritSana Khan proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Adding Port Statistics to Neutron Metering Agent  https://review.openstack.org/34497718:31
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kfox1111does the port-security module work with openvswitch these days?18:35
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openstackgerritSana Khan proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Adding Port Statistics to Neutron Metering Agent  https://review.openstack.org/34497718:41
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openstackgerritvenkata anil proposed openstack/neutron: set vif_type in db to distributed for dvr port  https://review.openstack.org/34003118:42
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sterdnotshakenAnyone know of a way to attach the external ip for a DVR router directly to the qrouter namespace?18:44
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SKippQuick question. I'm working on a bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1585699) Since I'm new the last comment has made me think about it. Would changining the variable name break backwards compatibility?18:45
openstackLaunchpad bug 1585699 in neutron "Neutron Metadata Agent Configuration - nova_metadata_ip" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Steve Kipp (sk167v)18:45
SKippif so I'll only change the docs18:45
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clarkbSKipp: you'll likely need to support both to make grenade happy as it won't update configs when it upgrades to the new version18:46
clarkbSKipp: then after a deprecation period you can remove the old name18:46
kfox1111sterdnotshaken: I don't think that works with the way dvr is archetected.18:47
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sterdnotshakenThanks for your response kfox1111, I appreciate it. We are wanting to assign public ip's directly to the vm's, but we still want a DVR router in the mix… So I'm trying to device a way to avoid wasting the ip's that snat (and dhcp) consume…18:49
SKipp@clarkb thanks, I'll see what I can do18:50
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kfox1111yeah, its pretty wasteful. :/18:50
kfox1111but I think it really needs fixing in neutron itself. it apparently doesn't actually use the ip's it allocates so there should be a way to fix it long term.18:50
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kfox1111I think you could make your tenant network a provider one, and still use dvr for floating ip's too.18:51
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sterdnotshakenMaking the tenant a provider network is a great idea. Only issue we have with that is our ip fabric (outside of openstack) uses vxlan, and so I would need to spin up n number of br-ex ovs bridges to accommodate each separate vxlan interface that openstack would need to integrate with… :(18:55
Sam-I-Amsterdnotshaken: if you want to assign public ips directly to vms, there's no need for dvr.18:56
Sam-I-Amdvr is a hack that makes fips work without the conventional network node issues18:57
sterdnotshakenHey Sam-I-Am! Totally agree… My boss is the one wanting there to always be a vrouter at play between the customers vm and our physical infrastructure ip fabric…18:58
Sam-I-Amwhy is that?18:58
Sam-I-Ama router is just another bottleneck or thing to break18:58
Swamisterdnotshaken: today external ip can only be attached to fipnamespace or snatnamespace with respect to DVR18:59
sterdnotshakenHis requirements are that we allocate tenants a /30 (or /31) and there be a router between them and our infrastructure. I mentioned to him we could use kfox1111 idea of just connecting them to a provider network, and having the tenants default gw be our infrastructures routers, but he really likes the idea of each tenant having their own vrouter that protects them from various l2 related issues associated with all the tena19:04
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sterdnotshakenI can setup a /30 network, and delete the snat and dhcp usage, but then traffic, after arriving at the tenants dvr router simply stops...19:05
sterdnotshakenper the external ip not being on the dvr namespace directly, but rather on the snat NS....19:06
openstackgerritvenkata anil proposed openstack/neutron: Make DVR portbinding implementation generic  https://review.openstack.org/32430219:06
kfox1111I personally prefer fips to direct routing, as a public ip tends to make things pets.19:06
gregworkCan neutron be run as a stand alone service? That is hiw much of the rest of openstack is needed to just setup neutron and sdn.19:06
kfox1111a fip you can move between instances, staying the same, making the vm its attached to matter much less.19:06
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kfox1111it also lets you 'not' expose vms that have no reason to ever be public facing from being public facing, enhancing your security posture.19:07
gregworkThe reason i am asking is my rhev stack can participate in a neutron sdn via the external network provider19:08
sterdnotshakengreat point kfox1111, could I assign a public ip to a vm and then define a fip of that same public address for that tenant, so when traffic left the vm with that pub, it would get FIP snatted as it left to that same ip on wonder?19:08
kfox1111gregwork: you want a bare metal machine to show up like a vm?19:08
kfox1111sterdnotshaken: I don't think so.19:09
sterdnotshakentotally a hack idea, but just curious...19:09
kfox1111I think the routers will get confused which way the traffic goes.19:09
gregworkNo i want to create tenant networks with neutron and have my rhev guests interact with that network19:09
kfox1111gregwork: non nova vm's?19:10
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gregworkYes.  This already works... im just trying to figure out how much openstack is required to run neutron19:10
Sam-I-Amkfox1111: fips are a totally broken concept19:10
Sam-I-Ambecause they only work with v419:10
kfox1111Sam-I-Am: totally disagree. :)19:11
kfox1111I think v6 should get them.19:11
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kfox1111probably even better options for implementing fips with v6 are possible. I think the mobile ip ipv6 thing could be mapped nicely to the concept.19:11
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sterdnotshakenSo it sounds like, outside of a provider network, there is no way to: A) use /30's or /31's currently with Neutron and B) have said small subnet's terminate on a DVR router? Can you guy's see any flaws with those statements?19:11
Sam-I-Amand dvr is questionable because it tries to handle a layer 3 problem at layer 219:12
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Sam-I-Amsterdnotshaken: right now, neutron is mostly layer 219:12
kfox1111Sam-I-Am: I kind of agree with that one. but more of as an implementation detail, not a a fundimental flaw of the idea of fips/dvr.19:12
openstackgerritboden proposed openstack/neutron-lib: devref for public API docstring  https://review.openstack.org/34058019:13
carl_baldwinHey, anyone know how to get unit tests to use file based sqlite instead of in memory sqlite?  I'd like to be able to use the sqlite3 command line to easily inspect the DB while I'm setting at a breakpoint in the code.19:13
sterdnotshakenthanks Sam-I-Am… So where would someone go for these kind of needs I wonder… a plugin for a different router?19:13
kfox1111 /30's or /31's are fairly finegrained for what neutron's designed for. Is there a reason for such small subnets?19:13
sterdnotshakenmaybe opencontrail perhaps?19:13
openstackgerritsean mooney proposed openstack/neutron: adds support for vhost user reconnect.  https://review.openstack.org/34499719:14
carl_baldwinI have done this before, I thought I just changed the connection in neutron/tests/etc/neutron.conf but that doesn't seem to be working.19:14
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Sam-I-Amsterdnotshaken: what exactly are you trying to do? (and why)19:14
sterdnotshakenIn the case a client wants to host a website via our openstack instance, smaller subnets would allow us to allocate them to said clients on a smaller basis…19:15
sterdnotshakenThat's kind of the jest of it...19:15
Sam-I-Amsmall v4 networks usually waste IPs19:16
sterdnotshakenMy boss is bent on a client being able to connect to their instance and see the public ip assigned directly on their instance NIC...19:16
Sam-I-Amwhy not just have one or more larger public ranges and pop instances into them?19:16
sterdnotshakenAgree with you there Sam-I-Am...19:16
Sam-I-Amyou can share a network with multiple projects19:17
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sterdnotshakenHe's concerned with the potential of "cross-talk" if a group of tenants were to share the same provider flat network… thoughts?19:18
Sam-I-Amsecurity groups19:18
sterdnotshakenI know iptables should eliminate most of that risk though right?19:18
sterdnotshakengot it...19:19
sterdnotshakenok19:19
kfox1111thats what fips are good at though. making better use of ip's by letting things that don't need to be public, consume only private ips.19:19
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kfox1111if you make everything public, then you can't save ips.19:19
Sam-I-Amyou can still have private nets19:19
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Sam-I-Amand those vms can still access the outside world via nat without fips19:20
sterdnotshakenso true kfox111!19:20
Sam-I-Amas much as i cringe at nat19:20
carl_baldwinamuller: kevinbenton: ^^ Either of you know?19:20
sterdnotshakensame here…19:20
kfox1111Sam-I-Am: true. but its more complex to setup, as the default private tenant network does the nat stuff out of the box, and you just have to add fips as needed to expose stuff.19:20
Sam-I-Amthen comes the question about v6 :)19:21
Sam-I-Amthere is no nat19:21
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kfox1111and then you don't ever have to worry about deleting a vm because "a user might have bookmakred a specific public ip to a specific vm"19:21
kfox1111you just move the fip to the new vm an all is well.19:21
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kfox1111which goes back to my statement, there should be. :)19:21
Sam-I-Amwell, i'd hope people use dns... and you can assign an ip to another vm19:22
kfox1111dns is a tricky issue. for a few reasons.19:22
amullergregwork: it's possible to integrate with neutron with *only* neutron running19:22
amullergregwork: oVirt did that for a while19:22
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kfox11111, clients cache it badly19:22
kfox1111and 2, some organizations have way too much bureaucracy around updating a dns record.19:23
kfox1111its WAY easier to move a fip here then to get a dns entry updated and flushed from all the caches.19:23
Sam-I-Amwell, i can't fix stupid :)19:23
kfox1111I can't either. we still have to live with IE for a while. :/19:23
amullercarl_baldwin: I normally used python/sqlalchemy to inspect the DB when I set breakpoints in tests19:23
amullercarl_baldwin: but inspecting the DB directly would be neat19:24
carl_baldwinamuller: I could fall back on python / sqlalchemy but would be *much* more comfortable with the sqlite3 interface.19:24
carl_baldwinamuller: I'm having trouble letting this idea go because I've done it before and I can't figure out why it isn't working this time.19:25
kfox1111anyone know if its safe to enable the port-securty extention on a openvswitch based vxlan backed dvr system?19:25
amullerkfox1111: It is yes19:26
Sam-I-Ami dont see why not19:26
Sam-I-Ambut it may not impact existing networks19:26
amullercarl_baldwin: If you figure it out a blog post or devref contribution would be really nice19:26
sterdnotshakenI wonder if it would be a horrible idea to register br-int ovs bridge to a openflow controller (in addition to it being controlled by openstack) and then, to defeat the neutron challenges, add flows that forward\circumvent public ip's coming from instances from being caught up in the dvr\snat\dhcp mix… Does openstack allow OVS to be registered and controlled by something like Opendaylight while still controlling it itsel19:26
kfox1111I'm ok with that. I've got a production system that doesn't have it enabled, but would like to start playing around with openstack-virtual-baremetal as a way of testing upgrades.19:26
carl_baldwinamuller: Yes, I should've done that the first time.  Ok, thanks, I'll keep trying.19:27
Sam-I-Amsterdnotshaken: doing things like that usually Ends Badly19:27
sterdnotshakenha ha!19:27
amullersterdnotshaken: Sounds like a bad idea. However you know there's an ODL ML2 driver right?19:27
Sam-I-Amthere's a way to make what you want work, which to me seems like provider networks19:27
Sam-I-Amor there's also other drivers... like amuller says19:27
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Sam-I-Amif you're dying to use odl19:27
sterdnotshakenyea, I can't convince my boss to use that… we're already using ODL in multiple clusters, but I think he views handing networking over to ODL as adding significant complexity...19:28
kfox1111sterdnotshaken: http://emma-hobbit.deviantart.com/art/Do-not-meddle-in-the-affairs-of-Wizards-43081747219:28
kfox1111or better yet, https://www.google.com/search?q=do+not+meddle+in+the+affairs+of+wizards&safe=active&biw=981&bih=675&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj9gdCS44LOAhXMaD4KHRfnDjgQ_AUIBygC#safe=active&tbm=isch&q=do+not+meddle+in+the+affairs+of+dragons&imgrc=CNW-gCpQZGn5bM%3A :)19:28
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sterdnotshakenLOL kfox1111!19:29
kfox1111there be dragons there.19:29
sterdnotshakenhe he!19:30
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Sam-I-Amsterdnotshaken: aside from a wetware issue, it seems like provider nets is the solution. they're only flat or vlan now, but somewhere around here i recall seeing something about adding support for vxlan. no reason why it shouldnt work.19:31
kfox1111if you need a real vxlan support, you can probably create it outside of neutron with linuxbridge, then bind to it as a flat network and expose it as a provider network.19:32
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kfox1111I still think its better to push back though and just support fips.19:32
sterdnotshakenIf there were vxlan support for provider networks, that would be the equivalent of a angel sent from heaven itself!19:32
kfox1111this kind of network stuff has made openstack very hard to write software for, as each neutron setup is a snowflake. :/19:33
sterdnotshakenthat makes sense19:34
Sam-I-Amkfox1111: yeah, its a bit messy, but its all about options, right? :)19:34
Sam-I-Amas long as someone defines a handful of fairly common architectures (which the networking guide does)19:35
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kfox1111Sam-I-Am: I'm usually for a ton of options, but sometimes having a fairly standardized default is benificial too.19:35
kfox1111and the infrastructure is flexable enough to handle the differences (no heat conditionals still. :/)19:35
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kfox1111if I enable port-security, which services need restarting?19:36
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kfox1111just neutron-server or all of the agents too?19:36
Sam-I-Amneutron-server19:37
Sam-I-Amiirc, your existing networks won't magically gain support19:38
kfox1111cool. thanks.  I just need it for a new network.19:38
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kfox1111do all old networks still have port security enabled for them?19:40
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kfox1111https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1175464 fun...19:42
openstackLaunchpad bug 1175464 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "should not add default security group to quantum unless api-request had it" [High,In progress] - Assigned to sahid (sahid-ferdjaoui)19:42
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Sam-I-Amdoesnt quite seem related19:42
Sam-I-Ambut i might not be sure what you're getting at19:42
kfox1111can you work around that just by making the neutron port first, and giving it to nova so nova doesn't try and do any security group stuff with it?19:43
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kfox1111I usually do that with my heat templates anyway.19:43
kfox1111seems like it, as they broke that one too at some point, then reverted the breakage: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151184/19:44
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sc68calihrachys: ack19:51
sc68calihrachys: for 342493 I'd rather see it get fixed in lib/neutron and leave the neutron-legacy code alone19:52
ihrachyssc68cal: as long as subprojects can switch to it, I am fine with that forced approach19:52
ihrachyssc68cal: that said, shouldn't we eat our own dogfood and run our jobs with the library?19:52
sc68calihrachys: ack. I suppose if a patch came in that fixed it in both -legacy and neutron i'd be happy with that19:52
sc68calihrachys: that is in progress, I'm down to like 3 test failures with the new neutron19:53
ihrachyssc68cal: I think yamamoto was going to do just that - sending a patch for both19:53
ihrachyssc68cal: great to hear there is a visible progress ;)19:53
sc68calyeah hopefully someone who's core for devstack can tap in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331777/19:54
openstackgerritRawlin Peters proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Prohibit deletion of ports currently in use as trunks or subports  https://review.openstack.org/34501519:54
sc68calgaryk or sdague - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331777/19:54
sdaguesc68cal: looking...19:55
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sdague+A19:55
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openstackgerritboden proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Fix api-ref response code formatting  https://review.openstack.org/34502420:06
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Removed N523 check that forbids oslo.* imports  https://review.openstack.org/34502620:10
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-fwaas: Rename DB columns: tenant -> project  https://review.openstack.org/34232620:14
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openstackgerritvenkata anil proposed openstack/neutron: multiple port bindings for HA ports  https://review.openstack.org/32331420:23
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openstackgerritDarek Smigiel proposed openstack/neutron: Rename DB columns: tenant -> project  https://review.openstack.org/33578620:50
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alexproHey, running liberty and a legacy router. We noticed the external network gateway port on our router always shows status as DOWN. However we actually have external connectivity and the qg interface in qrouter namespace is UP. ANy idea why the external network gateway port is always down?20:59
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xagentwe set the "ovs-vsctl br-set-external-id br-ex bridge-id br-ex" as suggested online but is still does not work21:01
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xagentis VM internal DNS hostname resolution supposed to work for a non-DHCP enabled tenant network?21:06
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xagenthttps://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/liberty/internal-dns-resolution.html21:06
xagentsee that it works fine with dhcp enabled on network - neutron sends the hostname and dns_domain to DHCP agent21:07
xagentbut without dhcp agent, does it not work?21:07
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kfox1111how comfy would folks be with patching in https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/neutron/commit/?id=90b9cd334b1b33df933bf1b61b38c6e087c431af to a live system?21:22
kfox1111it does touch a db file, but looks to only provide a default value if unset.21:22
kfox1111not actually changing any schema.21:23
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sterdnotshakenIs there a way to allocate say 8 ip addresses out of a external network to a tenant where they use 1 for now, but have the other 7 reserved for later?21:31
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kfox1111or, maybe this:21:33
kfox1111INSERT INTO networksecuritybindings (network_id,port_security_enabled) SELECT id,1 FROM networks21:33
kfox1111INSERT INTO portsecuritybindings (port_id,port_security_enabled) SELECT id,1 FROM ports21:33
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kfox1111that looks prett safe?21:33
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Removed smoke tags from *SearchCriteriaTest test cases  https://review.openstack.org/34490321:39
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openstackgerritAradhana Singh proposed openstack/neutron: DHCP Auto Scheduling for Segments  https://review.openstack.org/33371622:11
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openstackgerritJohn Perkins proposed openstack/neutron: Agent common config  https://review.openstack.org/34304522:33
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openstackgerritAdolfo Duarte proposed openstack/neutron: RPC server side for trunk driver  https://review.openstack.org/33928323:15
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openstackgerritAdolfo Duarte proposed openstack/neutron: RPC server side for trunk driver  https://review.openstack.org/33928323:36
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Enable passive deletes on trunk deletion  https://review.openstack.org/34510123:46
xagentif an admin user in one tenant creates a Shared network, can a self-service user in another tenant attach that network to his own tenant's router?23:47
Sam-I-Amif the network is shared, anyone can use it by default23:48
Sam-I-Amunless you use rbac to limit it23:48
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