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garyk | armax: please look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344268/ | 01:07 |
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sharatss | hi Amotoki San | 04:50 |
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amotoki | sharatss: hi | 04:50 |
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sharatss | amotoki , can we discuss on a blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/router-interface-list | 04:53 |
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amotoki | sharatss: which RFE bug is related to it? | 05:06 |
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sharatss | amotoki: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1587719 this is the bug | 05:07 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1587719 in neutron "no option to view the interfaces attached to router from CLI" [Undecided,Opinion] - Assigned to Sharat Sharma (sharat-sharma) | 05:07 |
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amotoki | sharatss: for the bug, there are several ways to achieve this. one is to change API side to include a list of interfaces attached | 05:14 |
sharatss | amotoki: yes | 05:15 |
amotoki | sharatss: the other way is to change CLI side to collect interface information. | 05:15 |
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gmann | amotoki: sharatss : on that does not List port with device_id fulfill the requirement? | 05:17 |
sharatss | amotoki: it will be better to do on API side and CLI just cover the API | 05:17 |
gmann | neutron router-port-list <router> as mentioned in bug | 05:17 |
openstackgerrit | Lujin Luo proposed openstack/neutron: Add a composite unique key to floatingip table in Neutron database https://review.openstack.org/276018 | 05:18 |
sharatss | gmann: amotoki: that does not fulfil the requirement | 05:18 |
gmann | amotoki: sharatss : if not and we want direct API for that then i will also suggest to add on API side | 05:18 |
gmann | sharatss: but that will list all port of that router right | 05:18 |
openstackgerrit | Lujin Luo proposed openstack/neutron: Add a unique key to port_id in routerports table https://review.openstack.org/285048 | 05:19 |
openstackgerrit | Lujin Luo proposed openstack/neutron: Clean up excess dhcp-agents scheduled to a network https://review.openstack.org/288271 | 05:19 |
sharatss | gmann: yes. But what if we have to find out the status of the interface? | 05:19 |
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sharatss | gmann: dashboard has the status field but there is no way user can know the status of interface from CLi | 05:20 |
openstackgerrit | Quan Tian proposed openstack/neutron: Check compatibility when auto schedule ha routers https://review.openstack.org/336791 | 05:20 |
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amotoki | sharatss: gmann: it is a balance. "neutron router-port-list <router-id>" does the job. it contains port status. | 05:21 |
gmann | sharatss: well we can actually with port show, but that might be too much operation for user :) | 05:21 |
gmann | amotoki: oh, is it | 05:21 |
amotoki | gmann: yes. it isn't include in the default columns though | 05:22 |
gmann | amotoki: yea, you are right. it has all info of all ports. | 05:22 |
amotoki | for example, neutron router-port-list my-router -c id -c fixed_ips -c status | 05:23 |
gmann | amotoki: yea, i saw that. nice | 05:24 |
amotoki | sharatss: gmann: i think we can add an attribute like interfaces to a router resource, but then we will have another question what kind of information should be included. | 05:24 |
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gmann | amotoki: sharatss i see. nice idea. may be router id is enough. | 05:25 |
amotoki | sharatss: gmann: port ID list or full information.. i'd like to avoid a situation that we change contents if port resource has some new attrs. | 05:25 |
sharatss | gmann: amotoki: We can actually add the interface and status | 05:25 |
gmann | amotoki: sharatss true. information available in port all the time should be in default column | 05:27 |
gmann | amotoki: sharatss so adding status and router_id there in default column may be enough? | 05:28 |
sharatss | amotoki: gmann: I mean when we do an "neutron router-show router_id" the table must contain the list of interfaces attached to it | 05:28 |
amotoki | gmann: i don't think we need router_id as we already specify router_id to CLI. | 05:28 |
sharatss | I actually have another concern here | 05:29 |
sharatss | Gmann: amotoki: what if we have to bring an interface down? | 05:29 |
gmann | amotoki: humm, yea filter is with router_id only so make sense | 05:30 |
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amotoki | sharatss: it is a new topic. | 05:31 |
sharatss | amotoki: yes | 05:31 |
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amotoki | sharatss: have we finished the previous one? | 05:31 |
sharatss | amotoki: I wamted to have a discussion on this and raise a BP for this | 05:31 |
gmann | sharatss: router-show does include that in external_fixed_ips right? is this what you want to show there right | 05:31 |
gmann | amotoki: sharatss i think no :) | 05:31 |
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gmann | sharatss: amotoki so on first topic, including status field in default column enough right? | 05:34 |
gmann | amotoki: sharatss which means no new API needed as listed in BP- https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/router-interface-list | 05:34 |
openstackgerrit | IWAMOTO Toshihiro proposed openstack/neutron: fullstack: Add security group tests https://review.openstack.org/341328 | 05:35 |
sharatss | amotoki: gmann: I want to see the interfaces attached and their status in router-show table as interface is also an attribute of router | 05:35 |
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sharatss | gmann: amotoki: or we can have a new API "router-interface-list" to list all the interfaces and their attributes | 05:36 |
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amotoki | sharatss: I still haven't understood why you need this kind of information in the output of router-show | 05:40 |
amotoki | sharatss: isn't it enough? GET v2.0/ports.json?device_id=<router_id> | 05:40 |
sharatss | amotoki: I can tell you a scenario. If the OVS is down and we add an interface, the interface gets successfully added but its status will be down | 05:41 |
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sharatss | amotoki: in this case there is no other way except horizon to find the status of the interface | 05:41 |
amotoki | sharatss: the above example API request returns all information you want. Am I missing something? | 05:42 |
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amotoki | sharatss: I think you are talking about the default configuraiton of CLI. | 05:42 |
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gmann | sharatss: that what it will include if you add 'status' in default column list or run CLI with -c status | 05:43 |
gmann | as amotoki mentioned - GET v2.0/ports.json?device_id=<router_id> will give all information of attached interfaces to that router | 05:44 |
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amotoki | sharatss: -v option dumps API req and response. it will help you know what information is returned. | 05:45 |
amotoki | sharatss: for example, try 'neutron -v router-port-list <router-id>' | 05:45 |
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sharatss | amotoki: gmann: yes. I tried them out. It seems fine | 05:49 |
amotoki | sharatss: good to hear that. the default columns may need to be visited though. | 05:50 |
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sharatss | amotoki: so can we add status in the default column? | 05:52 |
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amotoki | sharatss: actually, it is common to all resources. it's not specific to router-port-list. | 05:52 |
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sakthi | Hi required help, between Vm has pining but gateway is not pining from Vm | 05:53 |
amotoki | sharatss: it might be better to discuss it in the bug. personally it sounds useful to have status in port-list/router-port-list. | 05:53 |
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sharatss | amotoki: sure. will try to work on that | 05:55 |
gmann | amotoki: sharatss +1 | 05:55 |
hichihara | sakthi: you should go to https://ask.openstack.org/en/questions/ | 05:55 |
sharatss | gmann: amotoki: can we go to the second topic now? | 05:56 |
amotoki | sharatss: i have a schedule from 3pm | 05:57 |
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sharatss | amotoki: ok. whenever you are free. thanks for taking out time for me | 05:57 |
sakthi | hichihara: This is due to internal network pbm, I suspect that its a port prbm, where I've to get a help | 05:58 |
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hichihara | sakthi: Network connection issues are often reported and solved in https://ask.openstack.org/ | 06:02 |
hichihara | sakthi: I think that you can find similar issue and solution there. | 06:02 |
sakthi | hichihara: thank u | 06:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Reedip proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Provide support for net-router-list https://review.openstack.org/299189 | 06:14 |
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kevinbenton | garyk: ping | 06:15 |
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garyk1 | kevinbenton: whats up | 06:25 |
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kevinbenton | garyk: i left a comment in reply to yours on the veth patch | 06:26 |
kevinbenton | garyk1: i think vmware would be affected by the same bug | 06:26 |
garyk1 | ok, will take a look | 06:26 |
kevinbenton | garyk1: unless you aren't using namespaces | 06:26 |
garyk1 | we are using namespaces. | 06:26 |
garyk1 | if you recall when we dropped the veth the devices did not come up. so it will be effectively breaking things | 06:27 |
garyk1 | what OS are you using? which OVS version? | 06:27 |
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kevinbenton | garyk1: this patches forces the use of veths | 06:28 |
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kevinbenton | garyk1: not eliminating them | 06:29 |
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garyk1 | shit my bad - then it will work. | 06:30 |
kevinbenton | garyk1: no worries. vmware is already using veths right? | 06:31 |
kevinbenton | garyk1: to deal with that status issue | 06:31 |
garyk1 | yes, we alsways do iniset $Q_DHCP_CONF_FILE DEFAULT ovs_use_veth True | 06:31 |
kevinbenton | garyk1: ok cool | 06:31 |
garyk1 | if you recall there was a patch to deprecate the option andf it broke the world. | 06:31 |
garyk1 | i'll chang emy score. damn jetlag | 06:31 |
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kevinbenton | garyk1: no prob. i need to respin anyway to fix functional tests | 06:31 |
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kevinbenton | garyk1: yeah, the deprecation was actually to get rid of the option to use veths | 06:32 |
kevinbenton | garyk1: it's a good thing we didn't follow through | 06:32 |
kevinbenton | garyk1: didn't realize how unsupported this was by OVS | 06:32 |
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garyk1 | oh yeah | 06:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Bo Chi proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: Support vlan transparent network for ml2 ovs driver https://review.openstack.org/342755 | 06:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Brandon Logan proposed openstack/neutron: Pecan: Handle member actions https://review.openstack.org/344581 | 06:45 |
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openstackgerrit | IWAMOTO Toshihiro proposed openstack/neutron: fullstack: Add security group tests https://review.openstack.org/341328 | 07:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Add QoS minimum egress bandwidth rule into ovs-agent https://review.openstack.org/318531 | 07:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/neutron: Add QoS minimum bandwidth rule for instance egress traffic https://review.openstack.org/344145 | 07:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Include [agent] extensions option into ovs/linuxbridge agent files https://review.openstack.org/341103 | 08:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Lewis proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: [WIP]Add connection API cases https://review.openstack.org/338061 | 08:54 |
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slunkad_ | ihrachys: rossella_s could you please comment on the sg patches for ovo? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275664/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284738 | 09:00 |
rossella_s | slunkad_, will do :) | 09:00 |
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slunkad_ | rossella_s: thanks! | 09:01 |
rossella_s | slunkad_, thank you for working hard on this | 09:01 |
slunkad_ | rossella_s: :) | 09:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Disable using tap devices in the OVS driver https://review.openstack.org/344545 | 09:50 |
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kevinbenton | jlibosva, ihrachys: hey, the patch above intends to address a bug | 10:16 |
kevinbenton | https://review.openstack.org/344545 if you don't have scrollback | 10:16 |
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kevinbenton | if you read the related bug report, it seems OVS gives the same ofport to multiple interfaces | 10:16 |
jlibosva | kevinbenton: I already looked (briefly). Do you think it would make sense to run couple of tests with ovs2.5 to see whether the issue is still there | 10:17 |
kevinbenton | so the issue is that it's difficult to reproduce | 10:17 |
kevinbenton | i have this script | 10:17 |
kevinbenton | https://gist.github.com/kevinbenton/e8a323b61ac6145f9293ef90dbdec0b1 | 10:17 |
kevinbenton | that plugs and unplugs the way the dhcp agent and VMs do | 10:18 |
kevinbenton | but it doesn't repro the issue | 10:18 |
kevinbenton | it only shows up in the gate occasionally | 10:18 |
kevinbenton | it's hard to get stats because we don't have a good signature | 10:18 |
jlibosva | what ovs version do you have? | 10:19 |
kevinbenton | it's easy to see in the vswitchd log duplicate ports | 10:19 |
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kevinbenton | but it's not a single-line query to write for logstash | 10:19 |
kevinbenton | 2.0.3 | 10:19 |
kevinbenton | 2.0.2*** | 10:19 |
kevinbenton | sorry | 10:19 |
kevinbenton | that's what's in the gate | 10:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Remove execute permission which is added by mistake in midonet https://review.openstack.org/344550 | 10:31 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: looking. I think ajo was also looking at it yesterday. | 10:34 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: ajo is now looking for the command to increase vswitchd logging | 10:35 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: if we can get that turned on in the gate we can maybe be certain of the root cause | 10:35 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: yeah, I heard there are like 100+ log knobs | 10:35 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: 'maybe be certain' that's the spirit! :) | 10:36 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: :) | 10:36 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: in terms of performance, is there a risk to degrade significantly? | 10:36 |
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ihrachys | that's another bunch of devices in the middle. | 10:36 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: now that we have multiple agents attached to OVS via ovsdb protocol and openflow and nova using vsctl we don't have a nice linear order of command line calls that easily duplicate things | 10:37 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: ajo was measuring that. looks like %10 loss of throughput locally | 10:38 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: from each veth | 10:38 |
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ihrachys | so more like 20%? | 10:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Dongcan Ye proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Install Libreswan for CentOS7 https://review.openstack.org/344723 | 10:39 |
ihrachys | or you mean per pair? | 10:39 |
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ajo | ihrachys, each jump through a veth | 10:42 |
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ajo | veth pair I mean | 10:42 |
jlibosva | ajo: re vswitchd logging: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304600/16/devstack/lib/ovs@114 | 10:43 |
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jlibosva | might be handy :) | 10:43 |
ajo | oh thanks, kevinbenton and I were looking at what vlogs to set as debug | 10:44 |
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ajo | ihrachys, do you know where to set that on the gate? (we could plug it into the pluggin) but I guess general runs don't depend on our devstack plugin | 10:44 |
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ihrachys | ajo: should we at least have the discussion on the issue and the fix proposed, including performance implications, in openstack-dev@? that is not a decision to make lightly. | 10:44 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: i think wait until maybe we can get a little more root cause | 10:45 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: that's why we are turning up logging on vswitchd | 10:45 |
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ihrachys | ajo: I think you want to update devstack-gate/devstack for that. maybe devstack to expose configuration, then devstack-gate to enable it. | 10:46 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: + on the path | 10:46 |
ajo | exactly | 10:46 |
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ajo | ihrachys, agreed, I believe kevinbenton agrees too | 10:46 |
ajo | for subsystem in netdev netdev_linux netdev_vport poll_loop netlink netlink_notifier ; do ovs-appctl vlog/set $subsystem:file:dbg; done for now | 10:46 |
ajo | I'm working on a bash reproducer kevinbenton started | 10:47 |
ajo | to see if I get it to work | 10:47 |
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ajo | if that works, we can pass it to the OVS team to get a fix, they already agreed that could be fixed even if it's netns related | 10:47 |
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openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Increase ovs-vswitchd logging for debugging https://review.openstack.org/344731 | 10:50 |
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ajo | kevinbenton, but is that triggerer on all gate runs ? | 10:51 |
ajo | I thought we only used the plugin sometimes, but may be that changed | 10:51 |
kevinbenton | ajo: i'll watch the tempest logs where we've seen the failures | 10:51 |
ajo | ack | 10:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Swapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/303346 | 10:58 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: how often do we catch it in gate? maybe not stats based, but least what's perception? | 10:58 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: not sure. armax has pointed it out to me about 3 different times | 10:59 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: but that depends on how cranky he is :) | 10:59 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: so it's hard to tell how often it happens in larger picture | 10:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Increment revision numbers on object changes https://review.openstack.org/303966 | 11:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Add callbacks for networks and subnets in ML2 https://review.openstack.org/336729 | 11:01 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: would be cool to see your review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336805/ (migration for old networks to new MTUs) | 11:02 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: change looks pretty good. the only thing i was hesitant about before when we chatted about this was the fact that backends don't get notified when this changes | 11:09 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: even agents for example won't get net update events | 11:09 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: so if an operator changes this, it's not like it will actually do anything unless they restart everything | 11:10 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: right. the assumption would be, you need to restart your agent (which will happen on upgrade) | 11:10 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: btw we discussed that on previous upgrades meeting | 11:11 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: I think it's similar to other cases where we allow to change configuration on server side but we don't upgrade all agents. | 11:11 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: it's more than just upgrade. i think we want to add a note to the config option for global physnet MTU | 11:11 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: it's any change to config | 11:11 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: won't be propagated until resyncs of everything | 11:11 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: you want me to expand text for the option to elaborate how to propagate the change? | 11:12 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Add new attributes to trunk model https://review.openstack.org/341217 | 11:12 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: yeah, i think that should be enough | 11:12 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: ack, lemme take on it | 11:12 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: just so they see it right in the help text for the option | 11:12 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: and maybe even mention that VMs need to have their interface detached re-attached as well | 11:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Ensure test_cleanup_stale_devices fails gracefully https://review.openstack.org/344468 | 11:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Fix wait_until_true condition in dhcp test https://review.openstack.org/344760 | 11:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Add API tests for revision numbers https://review.openstack.org/328187 | 11:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Calculate MTU on every network fetch instead of on create https://review.openstack.org/336805 | 11:28 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: release note and config option text updated ^ | 11:28 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: looks good. thx for quick turnaround | 11:31 |
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openstackgerrit | John Davidge proposed openstack/neutron: Enable CRUD for Subnet Service Types https://review.openstack.org/337851 | 11:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Increase ovs-vswitchd logging for debugging https://review.openstack.org/344731 | 11:55 |
kevinbenton | ajo: yeah, that wasn't the right place for that logging | 11:55 |
kevinbenton | ^^ | 11:55 |
kevinbenton | ajo: i think that one should be better | 11:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Ann Taraday proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Refactor setting OSprofiler for db calls https://review.openstack.org/340324 | 12:16 |
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openstackgerrit | Ann Taraday proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Refactor setting OSprofiler for db calls https://review.openstack.org/340324 | 12:23 |
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jschwarz | kevinbenton, ping, re: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1599329 | 12:34 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1599329 in neutron "Potential regression on handing over DHCP addresses to VMs" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 12:34 |
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kevinbenton | jschwarz: hey | 12:34 |
jschwarz | kevinbenton, hey | 12:34 |
jschwarz | kevinbenton, did you manage to reproduce this locally? | 12:34 |
kevinbenton | jschwarz: nope | 12:35 |
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kevinbenton | jschwarz: all we have to go on are the gate failures right now | 12:35 |
jschwarz | kevinbenton, interesting | 12:35 |
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jschwarz | kevinbenton, this sounds like something we've encountered as well | 12:35 |
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jschwarz | kevinbenton, where after a while there would be hundreds (if not thousands) of orphaned qvo and tap devices | 12:36 |
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jschwarz | kevinbenton, we = at redhat | 12:37 |
openstackgerrit | Bence Romsics proposed openstack/neutron: New exception for deleting a trunk having subports https://review.openstack.org/344803 | 12:37 |
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kevinbenton | jschwarz: well in this case they aren't orphaned. they are both active ports | 12:37 |
kevinbenton | jschwarz: but ovs is giving them both the same ofport number | 12:37 |
jschwarz | kevinbenton, "both" implies only 2 ports? | 12:38 |
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kevinbenton | jschwarz: yes, in each failure so far it's been two ports that are assigned the same ofport | 12:39 |
jschwarz | kevinbenton, lemme look | 12:39 |
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jschwarz | kevinbenton, i'll look into it and post in the launchpad if I find something interesting | 12:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Andreas Scheuring proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Spec for providing Nova portbinding information for live migration https://review.openstack.org/309416 | 12:56 |
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openstackgerrit | Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/neutron: Add QoS minimum bandwidth rule for instance egress traffic https://review.openstack.org/344145 | 12:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Fix wait_until_true condition in dhcp test https://review.openstack.org/344760 | 13:21 |
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sc68cal | ihrachys: looks like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343024/ didn't move the needle when it comes to multinode grenade | 14:02 |
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ihrachys | sc68cal: proof? | 14:02 |
sc68cal | http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 14:02 |
sc68cal | http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=5&fullscreen | 14:02 |
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amuller | otherwiseguy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1604816 | 14:04 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1604816 in neutron "native ovsdb seems to return before finishing adding/removing port" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 14:04 |
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amuller | otherwiseguy: according to kevinbenton it's a problem when adding an interface in a specific case too | 14:05 |
otherwiseguy | I'll just post my patch for him to try. | 14:05 |
otherwiseguy | amuller: ^ | 14:05 |
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ihrachys | sc68cal: that's 24h average | 14:05 |
otherwiseguy | Working around it everywhere is not the best solution. | 14:05 |
amuller | otherwiseguy: I think your patch has a very different strategy than kevinbenton's | 14:05 |
ihrachys | sc68cal: also, we should get into logs to see if new failures are the same. | 14:05 |
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kevinbenton | otherwiseguy, amuller: if you have an actual fix for the db client i would much rather prefer that | 14:08 |
kevinbenton | i'm just annoyed with the constant functional failures related to interfaces that should clearly be there based on the logs | 14:08 |
kevinbenton | :) | 14:08 |
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amuller | that makes sense :) | 14:09 |
kevinbenton | sc68cal: i had no idea where to put this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344858/ | 14:09 |
otherwiseguy | kevinbenton: hopefully https://review.openstack.org/344859 fixes it. I need to test the performance. | 14:09 |
ihrachys | sc68cal: ok, I found one failure since the patch landed | 14:09 |
ihrachys | sc68cal: http://logs.openstack.org/51/337851/8/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron-multinode/ac55f7e/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz | 14:09 |
kevinbenton | sc68cal: we need some extra ovs logging | 14:09 |
ihrachys | sc68cal: that's for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337851/ | 14:10 |
kevinbenton | sc68cal: in tempest jobs | 14:10 |
ihrachys | so yeah, it did not help. :-| | 14:10 |
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otherwiseguy | kevinbenton: And maybe clean up a bit, but I figured I'd throw it up for people to look at/test. | 14:10 |
njohnston | jschwarz: May I pick your brain about a fullstack test I would like to write? At your convenience. | 14:10 |
openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/neutron: Add BaremetalMechanismDriver driver. https://review.openstack.org/339129 | 14:10 |
jschwarz | njohnston, sure, go ahead | 14:10 |
jschwarz | njohnston, but I'm in meetings for the next hour or so, so my response time might not be good | 14:11 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys, sc68cal: don't you need my patch before that will clear up? | 14:11 |
kevinbenton | otherwise i don't see how the external gateway MTU will be right | 14:12 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: which one, for l3 agent? | 14:12 |
ihrachys | br-ex currently br-ex mtu is 1450 there | 14:12 |
otherwiseguy | kevinbenton: (I'll make an actual commit message describing things better, linking to bugs, etc.) | 14:12 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343072/ | 14:12 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: is the physical interface also 1450 then? | 14:12 |
njohnston | jschwarz: That's all right, please respond whenever is convenient. I very much appreciate it. The test is for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339246/ - I would like to create a dummy L3 agent extension and load it. | 14:13 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: those are 1500 in gate. but clarkb told ping will pick br-ex mtu since that's the device caring the IP | 14:13 |
ihrachys | sorry, ping -> ssh | 14:13 |
njohnston | jschwarz: The idea would be that the test would send router events through RPC, and then we'd be able to check and make sure the correct handler methods had been invoked. My problem is that I am not sure how best to have a test that both defines the dummy extension for loading into the agent, as well as has the control side to send rpc messages to the agent. | 14:14 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: you can find interface setup in http://logs.openstack.org/51/337851/8/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron-multinode/ac55f7e/logs/worlddump-2016-07-20-122610.txt.gz | 14:14 |
kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: ack | 14:14 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: so now, br-ex and qg and qr and br-int and qbr and qvo/b and tap, all have 1450 | 14:15 |
jschwarz | njohnston, so what you want to do IMO is add the extension as an actual file (i.e. a file that behaves like a real, non-test-like, extension is written) and then change the configuration options so that it will load the extension | 14:16 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: ah yeah, if it's originating at br-ex it should be fine | 14:16 |
jschwarz | njohnston, think "I have a new extension but it must be placed in some other directory than the usual one, and now I must load it", only in fullstack | 14:16 |
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jschwarz | njohnston, on the subject of RPC, there's no real way to interface with Neutron other than API calls | 14:16 |
njohnston | jschwarz: Sounds about right. But how can I convey the state back from the dummy extension back to the test so I know the extension was invoked the way I think it should have been? | 14:17 |
jschwarz | njohnston, uhm... | 14:17 |
jschwarz | so... uhm... | 14:17 |
njohnston | That is the rock upon which I founder. | 14:17 |
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njohnston | Without it I figure I'm just testing Stevedore. | 14:18 |
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jschwarz | njohnston, so basically you have the extension code and the test code and you'd normally want the test code to block until the extension code returns something valid | 14:19 |
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jschwarz | i.e. "my_extension.wait_until_rpc_received()" | 14:19 |
njohnston | yes, somehow | 14:19 |
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jschwarz | njohnston, an "easy" solution is, for example, using unix sockets to transfer information to and from | 14:20 |
jschwarz | so like, a named pipe (IPC) | 14:20 |
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njohnston | Hmm, that is possible... I worry about it being brittle but I can't think of anything better. | 14:20 |
jschwarz | njohnston, actually opening a proper TCP socket is even better | 14:20 |
jschwarz | that will provide the TCP benefits of "ack" for each message, to add to reliability that unix sockets don't | 14:21 |
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njohnston | good point | 14:21 |
jschwarz | and since it's all localhost the latency is next to zero since it doesn't leave kernel space | 14:21 |
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jschwarz | I probably wouldn't even look at something more complicated like rabbitmq because... blah. | 14:22 |
njohnston | agreed on that | 14:22 |
njohnston | jschwarz: Thanks for the ideas! I really appreciate it, and I think that gives me plenty to go with. Thanks! | 14:22 |
jschwarz | njohnston, and then the "wait_until_rpc" on the test code side will be "wait until the extension sends a packet that means that an rpc was sent" | 14:22 |
jschwarz | can even json/pickle some construct for easy message-forwarding | 14:23 |
jschwarz | njohnston, welcome! add me as a reviewer and I promise I'll review it :) | 14:23 |
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njohnston | jschwarz: Will do! | 14:23 |
HenryG | akamyshnikova_: ping | 14:25 |
clarkb | ihrachys: kevinbenton in particular the route to the fip network is via br-ex so it should determine frame size on that | 14:27 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: can we see the console of that vm to make sure it set the MTU from dhcp? | 14:27 |
rossella_s | slunkad_, korzen_ sorry for the slow reply, I finally commented on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284738 ,we need the is_default field, I don't agree with you :) | 14:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: DVR: Clean stale snat-ns by checking its existence when agent restarts https://review.openstack.org/326729 | 14:28 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: if we're failing to receive the key from the VM, it's likely that the traffic from VM coming back is getting dropped somewhere | 14:28 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: because that would be the large packet | 14:28 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: or request for the key did not reach the VM | 14:28 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: worlddump files usually contain consoles, but I don't see one for that cinder resource | 14:30 |
ihrachys | I see one for nova-server1 | 14:30 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: IIRC the key request is smaller than 1400 bytes | 14:30 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: but that's based on old memory | 14:31 |
kevinbenton | :) | 14:31 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: overall, it's weird that in worlddump, we don't ever get consoles for all instances, just one | 14:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Swapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/303346 | 14:39 |
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kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: it's worth noting that in the failure case where it was a missing a created port it was a rapid create/delete/create | 14:39 |
kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: not sure if that changes anything | 14:39 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: btw I don't think cirros shows MTU recieved with a lease | 14:43 |
ihrachys | it handles the option, but does not indicate it on tty | 14:43 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: oh dang, i was hoping it was in the interface info dump | 14:43 |
ihrachys | there is 'network info' | 14:44 |
ihrachys | but no mtu | 14:44 |
ihrachys | just addresses, state, name | 14:44 |
ihrachys | + routes | 14:44 |
Sam-I-Am | you'd have to run the ip/ifconfig command to see the mtu | 14:44 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: btw, what's your timezone these days? it's very late for your usual home, isn't it? | 14:45 |
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Sam-I-Am | kevin does not believe in time | 14:45 |
kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: unfortunately this is automated, we can't issue commands | 14:45 |
Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: yeah, hence the problem | 14:45 |
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Sam-I-Am | guess one could patch cirros | 14:45 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: we could probably make cirros expose that, but that's a long road | 14:45 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: might be worth asking infra to freeze a failure for us | 14:45 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: i'm not sure if it's a trap they put in the failure detection or how it works exactly | 14:46 |
davidsha | Question, when I'm using the OvS agent, how do I make it use OvS rather than native? | 14:47 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: but i think there is a way we can get access to an env | 14:47 |
ihrachys | davidsha: does not compute. 'native' interfaces are still ovs | 14:47 |
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kevinbenton | davidsha: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/releasenotes/notes/of_interface-native-by-default-0c07bdbd7365230a.yaml | 14:50 |
kevinbenton | davidsha: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/releasenotes/notes/ovsdb-native-by-default-38835d6963592396.yaml | 14:50 |
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davidsha | ihrachys: Ok, thanks? | 14:50 |
davidsha | kevinbenton: Thank you! | 14:50 |
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davidsha | ihrachys: thanks* | 14:50 |
ihrachys | davidsha: you are welcome? :) | 14:51 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: hm, then network that we use to connect the instance to router is vxlan | 14:53 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: so the correct mtu to use for all intermediate devices is 1400 or so | 14:54 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: why? | 14:54 |
ihrachys | to accommodate for overhead | 14:54 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: but the actual network is 1500 isn't it? | 14:54 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: because infra is 1450 | 14:54 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: for multinode, we run infra network in tunnels | 14:55 |
Sam-I-Am | if its multinode, the inter-node stuff already has overhead | 14:55 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: then why aren't we setting global_physnet_mtu to that? | 14:55 |
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Sam-I-Am | which i think is gre, not vxlan (oddly) | 14:55 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: that's actually a patch I have for that | 14:55 |
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ihrachys | Sam-I-Am: kevinbenton: https://review.openstack.org/342975 | 14:55 |
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Sam-I-Am | of course, we also need to set path_mtu, because path_mtu :/ | 14:55 |
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ihrachys | Sam-I-Am: oh right, for mitaka! | 14:56 |
openstackgerrit | Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/neutron: Add QoS minimum bandwidth rule for instance egress traffic https://review.openstack.org/344145 | 14:56 |
ihrachys | Sam-I-Am: or do we need it to raise MTU only? | 14:56 |
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kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am, ihrachys: it chooses larger of the 2 IIRC | 14:56 |
kevinbenton | i mean smaller | 14:56 |
openstackgerrit | Sindhu Devale proposed openstack/neutron: Refactoring db config options https://review.openstack.org/344877 | 14:57 |
kevinbenton | so it should be okay | 14:57 |
ihrachys | ok, then it's good | 14:57 |
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ihrachys | so our bet now is getting global_physnet_mtu usage patch in and hope for the best? | 14:57 |
Sam-I-Am | apparently path_mtu defaults to 1500, so in cases where you set global_physnet_mtu to > 1500, your tunnel nets will still use 1500 | 14:57 |
Sam-I-Am | but for < 1500, its fine | 14:57 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: yep | 14:58 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: i thought 1500 was the correct setting for infra | 14:58 |
openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/neutron: Add BaremetalMechanismDriver driver. https://review.openstack.org/339129 | 14:58 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: kevinbenton https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/master/devstack-vm-gate.sh#L57 | 14:58 |
Sam-I-Am | reality is we probably need to rename path_mtu to something more informative, and then default it to the value of global_physnet_mtu unless you specifically set it | 14:59 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: it's described in https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/master/multinode_setup_info.txt#L81 | 14:59 |
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Sam-I-Am | the patch defaulting path_mtu to 1500 occurred during the "why are all these values messed up" era prior to fixing the actual mtu problem | 14:59 |
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ihrachys | well, we already made several changes to its default, maybe it's time to swallow the pride and stop :) | 15:00 |
kevinbenton | the current default is fine | 15:01 |
kevinbenton | it's 0 | 15:01 |
kevinbenton | which means it will be skipped | 15:01 |
ihrachys | ianw: hi. would you mind reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342975/1 that should hopefully fix multinode grenade for neutron? | 15:02 |
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ihrachys | sc68cal: so, what's the direction for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342493/7 ? neutron-legacy not getting any features? | 15:18 |
openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Deprecate implicit loading of service_providers from neutron_*.conf https://review.openstack.org/342048 | 15:18 |
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boden | HenryG dougwig: FYI a few items for neutron-lib agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Lib/Meetings#Open_Discussion | 15:21 |
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ihrachys | sc68cal: kevinbenton: Sam-I-Am: ok, the patch is in gate, now we again wait and validate in grafana | 15:21 |
ihrachys | sc68cal: thanks for raising the flag, it helped | 15:21 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: Sam-I-Am: sc68cal: while we are at mtu, it's probably a good time to go forward with killing network_device_mtu completely: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342958/ | 15:34 |
openstackgerrit | Aradhana Singh proposed openstack/neutron: Refactoring config options for l3 agent config https://review.openstack.org/338596 | 15:34 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: did nova eliminate it yet? | 15:34 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: no, it's in tree | 15:35 |
ihrachys | lemme craft a patch to remove it | 15:35 |
ihrachys | oh there is one | 15:35 |
ihrachys | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319543/ | 15:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Carlos Goncalves proposed openstack/neutron: Fix module import path in RPC callback example https://review.openstack.org/344891 | 15:40 |
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yohoffman | Hey there, we have a bug filed in horizon to change the name of a security rule for all ports from ``ALLOW -1:-1/icmp from 0.0.0.0/0`` to ``ALLOW any port/icmp from 0.0.0.0/0``. Is there anyone here who could recommend if this is a good change or not? | 15:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Trevor McCasland proposed openstack/neutron: Add setter to status in PortContext https://review.openstack.org/336068 | 15:45 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: you said you have logic now that forces br-ex to a reduced MTU? | 15:47 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: in devstack | 15:47 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: or is it global_physnet_mtu? | 15:47 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: because we need br-ex to be global_physnet_mtu after my patch goes in | 15:47 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343024/ made devstack to call 'ip link' to set mtu for br-ex | 15:49 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: and with the other patch currently in gate, we make use of global_physnet_mtu with the same value | 15:49 |
amuller | if you need to make immediate changes to devstack because of neutron changes to conf options we'd probably want to send an email to openstack-dev to flag to other installers that they also need to make changes | 15:49 |
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ihrachys | amuller: we flag them with release notes | 15:50 |
amuller | isn't that too late? | 15:50 |
ihrachys | amuller: we have deprecation section there for a reason | 15:50 |
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ihrachys | amuller: late? we released the new option in Mitaka, everyone who cares already saw the note suggesting the switch | 15:50 |
amuller | ok I was thinking you're making additional changes now | 15:51 |
ihrachys | now we are going to apply the note suggestion to our own gate, and remove the deprecated option | 15:51 |
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ihrachys | I appreciate you advocate for users ;) | 15:51 |
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amuller | advocate is my middle name | 15:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Manjeet Singh Bhatia proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor get_object in object/db/api https://review.openstack.org/344434 | 15:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Removed smoke tags from *SearchCriteriaTest test cases https://review.openstack.org/344903 | 15:59 |
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dougwig | boden: ack | 16:07 |
dougwig | boden: and thanks | 16:07 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/343371 | 16:21 |
electrocucaracha | rossella_s: ping? | 16:21 |
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rossella_s | electrocucaracha, pong | 16:22 |
electrocucaracha | hey rossella_s, how things are going? | 16:22 |
rossella_s | good and you? | 16:22 |
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electrocucaracha | it could be better, I had the opportunity to give a training in GDL, Mex | 16:23 |
electrocucaracha | so I'm taking advantage and visiting my family | 16:23 |
electrocucaracha | hehe | 16:23 |
rossella_s | wow | 16:23 |
electrocucaracha | rossella_s: anyway, going back to business... regarding OVO | 16:23 |
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electrocucaracha | rossella_s: I remember that you suggest to have something to reduce the duplicate thing for tenant_id fields | 16:24 |
electrocucaracha | rossella_s: I like the idea but I would like to know if some progress has been done in that particular thing | 16:25 |
rossella_s | electrocucaracha, give me some pointer | 16:25 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/340055 | 16:25 |
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electrocucaracha | rossella_s: I'm still trying to look for the place that you made the coment | 16:27 |
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openstackgerrit | boden proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Update hacking check consumption https://review.openstack.org/333500 | 16:31 |
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electrocucaracha | rossella_s: I gave up, I couldn't find the place where you suggested | 16:34 |
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electrocucaracha | rossella_s: so by the way, regarding tenant_id we are going to keep them as other normal ovo field, and there won't be reuse code right? | 16:37 |
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rossella_s | electrocucaracha, there's some discussion here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331009 | 16:42 |
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electrocucaracha | rossella_s: good catch!!! | 16:43 |
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electrocucaracha | rossella_s: so at the end it seems like korzen_ will try do something | 16:44 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: ping | 16:47 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: so I am thinking of switch to global_physnet_mtu in devstack-gate | 16:48 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: and I realise we have multinode grenade job in mitaka gate | 16:48 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: that would start from liberty cloud | 16:48 |
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ihrachys | that does not know about the option | 16:48 |
ihrachys | in which case, we may probably have problems in mitaka gate. | 16:48 |
ihrachys | is my line of thought correct? | 16:48 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: is devstack-gate not branched? | 16:49 |
ihrachys | nope | 16:49 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: yeah, that might be a problem then | 16:49 |
ihrachys | ok, the patch landed already | 16:49 |
ihrachys | afaik the job is in multiple gates, not just neutron | 16:50 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: what's the default mtu in liberty? | 16:50 |
ihrachys | 0? :) | 16:50 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: and won't things still be using network_device_mtu in liberty? | 16:51 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: or was network_device_mtu change also devstack-gate? | 16:51 |
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ihrachys | yeah, but since we switched devstack-gate that is not branched to global_physnet_mtu, it will be no-op there | 16:51 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: we just landed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342975/ | 16:51 |
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ihrachys | lemme pick a mitaka backport and recheck now | 16:52 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: we can catch it in devstack-gate by checking what's GRENADE_OLD_BRANCH | 16:54 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: but then, we still have the MTU issue | 16:54 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: well if it's mitaka/liberty we can use segment_mtu | 16:55 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: can we just look at branch? | 16:55 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: I think we can, we have the OLD_BRANCH as I said above | 16:56 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: let's see if the backport fails in gate, and if so, I will craft some patch. | 16:56 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: i mean for just regular stable tempest is OLD_BRANCH set? | 16:56 |
ihrachys | we should be able to validate it before landing, thru Depends-On | 16:56 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: for regular tempest, we don't care much | 16:57 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: because we did not have multinode jobs in liberty | 16:57 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: ok | 16:57 |
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ihrachys | it's only grenade that pulled liberty into our scope | 16:57 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: i gtg for now | 16:57 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: you should have done it hours ago! | 17:01 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: cheers | 17:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Rawlin Peters proposed openstack/neutron: Add trunk create/delete notifications and augment subport notifications https://review.openstack.org/341212 | 17:06 |
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manjeets- | rossella_s, ping | 17:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Richard Theis proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: DNM: Test OSC plugin job https://review.openstack.org/344946 | 17:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Ryan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing: Rename DB columns: tenant -> project https://review.openstack.org/342444 | 17:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Check compatibility when auto schedule ha routers https://review.openstack.org/336791 | 17:44 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Add RouterPort binding to ha interface creation https://review.openstack.org/274571 | 17:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Use DEVICE_OWNER_COMPUTE_PREFIX from neutron-lib https://review.openstack.org/343396 | 17:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Petra Sargent proposed openstack/neutron: Adds documention for designing a IPAM driver in Neutron https://review.openstack.org/289460 | 18:15 |
openstackgerrit | Anindita Das proposed openstack/neutron: Refactoring config options for common config opts https://review.openstack.org/344281 | 18:16 |
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openstackgerrit | Sana Khan proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Adding Port Statistics to Neutron Metering Agent https://review.openstack.org/344977 | 18:23 |
openstackgerrit | Anindita Das proposed openstack/neutron: Refactoring config options for common config opts https://review.openstack.org/344281 | 18:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Sana Khan proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Adding Port Statistics to Neutron Metering Agent https://review.openstack.org/344977 | 18:31 |
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kfox1111 | does the port-security module work with openvswitch these days? | 18:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Sana Khan proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Adding Port Statistics to Neutron Metering Agent https://review.openstack.org/344977 | 18:41 |
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openstackgerrit | venkata anil proposed openstack/neutron: set vif_type in db to distributed for dvr port https://review.openstack.org/340031 | 18:42 |
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sterdnotshaken | Anyone know of a way to attach the external ip for a DVR router directly to the qrouter namespace? | 18:44 |
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SKipp | Quick question. I'm working on a bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1585699) Since I'm new the last comment has made me think about it. Would changining the variable name break backwards compatibility? | 18:45 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1585699 in neutron "Neutron Metadata Agent Configuration - nova_metadata_ip" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Steve Kipp (sk167v) | 18:45 |
SKipp | if so I'll only change the docs | 18:45 |
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clarkb | SKipp: you'll likely need to support both to make grenade happy as it won't update configs when it upgrades to the new version | 18:46 |
clarkb | SKipp: then after a deprecation period you can remove the old name | 18:46 |
kfox1111 | sterdnotshaken: I don't think that works with the way dvr is archetected. | 18:47 |
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sterdnotshaken | Thanks for your response kfox1111, I appreciate it. We are wanting to assign public ip's directly to the vm's, but we still want a DVR router in the mix… So I'm trying to device a way to avoid wasting the ip's that snat (and dhcp) consume… | 18:49 |
SKipp | @clarkb thanks, I'll see what I can do | 18:50 |
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kfox1111 | yeah, its pretty wasteful. :/ | 18:50 |
kfox1111 | but I think it really needs fixing in neutron itself. it apparently doesn't actually use the ip's it allocates so there should be a way to fix it long term. | 18:50 |
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kfox1111 | I think you could make your tenant network a provider one, and still use dvr for floating ip's too. | 18:51 |
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sterdnotshaken | Making the tenant a provider network is a great idea. Only issue we have with that is our ip fabric (outside of openstack) uses vxlan, and so I would need to spin up n number of br-ex ovs bridges to accommodate each separate vxlan interface that openstack would need to integrate with… :( | 18:55 |
Sam-I-Am | sterdnotshaken: if you want to assign public ips directly to vms, there's no need for dvr. | 18:56 |
Sam-I-Am | dvr is a hack that makes fips work without the conventional network node issues | 18:57 |
sterdnotshaken | Hey Sam-I-Am! Totally agree… My boss is the one wanting there to always be a vrouter at play between the customers vm and our physical infrastructure ip fabric… | 18:58 |
Sam-I-Am | why is that? | 18:58 |
Sam-I-Am | a router is just another bottleneck or thing to break | 18:58 |
Swami | sterdnotshaken: today external ip can only be attached to fipnamespace or snatnamespace with respect to DVR | 18:59 |
sterdnotshaken | His requirements are that we allocate tenants a /30 (or /31) and there be a router between them and our infrastructure. I mentioned to him we could use kfox1111 idea of just connecting them to a provider network, and having the tenants default gw be our infrastructures routers, but he really likes the idea of each tenant having their own vrouter that protects them from various l2 related issues associated with all the tena | 19:04 |
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sterdnotshaken | I can setup a /30 network, and delete the snat and dhcp usage, but then traffic, after arriving at the tenants dvr router simply stops... | 19:05 |
sterdnotshaken | per the external ip not being on the dvr namespace directly, but rather on the snat NS.... | 19:06 |
openstackgerrit | venkata anil proposed openstack/neutron: Make DVR portbinding implementation generic https://review.openstack.org/324302 | 19:06 |
kfox1111 | I personally prefer fips to direct routing, as a public ip tends to make things pets. | 19:06 |
gregwork | Can neutron be run as a stand alone service? That is hiw much of the rest of openstack is needed to just setup neutron and sdn. | 19:06 |
kfox1111 | a fip you can move between instances, staying the same, making the vm its attached to matter much less. | 19:06 |
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kfox1111 | it also lets you 'not' expose vms that have no reason to ever be public facing from being public facing, enhancing your security posture. | 19:07 |
gregwork | The reason i am asking is my rhev stack can participate in a neutron sdn via the external network provider | 19:08 |
sterdnotshaken | great point kfox1111, could I assign a public ip to a vm and then define a fip of that same public address for that tenant, so when traffic left the vm with that pub, it would get FIP snatted as it left to that same ip on wonder? | 19:08 |
kfox1111 | gregwork: you want a bare metal machine to show up like a vm? | 19:08 |
kfox1111 | sterdnotshaken: I don't think so. | 19:09 |
sterdnotshaken | totally a hack idea, but just curious... | 19:09 |
kfox1111 | I think the routers will get confused which way the traffic goes. | 19:09 |
gregwork | No i want to create tenant networks with neutron and have my rhev guests interact with that network | 19:09 |
kfox1111 | gregwork: non nova vm's? | 19:10 |
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gregwork | Yes. This already works... im just trying to figure out how much openstack is required to run neutron | 19:10 |
Sam-I-Am | kfox1111: fips are a totally broken concept | 19:10 |
Sam-I-Am | because they only work with v4 | 19:10 |
kfox1111 | Sam-I-Am: totally disagree. :) | 19:11 |
kfox1111 | I think v6 should get them. | 19:11 |
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kfox1111 | probably even better options for implementing fips with v6 are possible. I think the mobile ip ipv6 thing could be mapped nicely to the concept. | 19:11 |
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sterdnotshaken | So it sounds like, outside of a provider network, there is no way to: A) use /30's or /31's currently with Neutron and B) have said small subnet's terminate on a DVR router? Can you guy's see any flaws with those statements? | 19:11 |
Sam-I-Am | and dvr is questionable because it tries to handle a layer 3 problem at layer 2 | 19:12 |
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Sam-I-Am | sterdnotshaken: right now, neutron is mostly layer 2 | 19:12 |
kfox1111 | Sam-I-Am: I kind of agree with that one. but more of as an implementation detail, not a a fundimental flaw of the idea of fips/dvr. | 19:12 |
openstackgerrit | boden proposed openstack/neutron-lib: devref for public API docstring https://review.openstack.org/340580 | 19:13 |
carl_baldwin | Hey, anyone know how to get unit tests to use file based sqlite instead of in memory sqlite? I'd like to be able to use the sqlite3 command line to easily inspect the DB while I'm setting at a breakpoint in the code. | 19:13 |
sterdnotshaken | thanks Sam-I-Am… So where would someone go for these kind of needs I wonder… a plugin for a different router? | 19:13 |
kfox1111 | /30's or /31's are fairly finegrained for what neutron's designed for. Is there a reason for such small subnets? | 19:13 |
sterdnotshaken | maybe opencontrail perhaps? | 19:13 |
openstackgerrit | sean mooney proposed openstack/neutron: adds support for vhost user reconnect. https://review.openstack.org/344997 | 19:14 |
carl_baldwin | I have done this before, I thought I just changed the connection in neutron/tests/etc/neutron.conf but that doesn't seem to be working. | 19:14 |
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Sam-I-Am | sterdnotshaken: what exactly are you trying to do? (and why) | 19:14 |
sterdnotshaken | In the case a client wants to host a website via our openstack instance, smaller subnets would allow us to allocate them to said clients on a smaller basis… | 19:15 |
sterdnotshaken | That's kind of the jest of it... | 19:15 |
Sam-I-Am | small v4 networks usually waste IPs | 19:16 |
sterdnotshaken | My boss is bent on a client being able to connect to their instance and see the public ip assigned directly on their instance NIC... | 19:16 |
Sam-I-Am | why not just have one or more larger public ranges and pop instances into them? | 19:16 |
sterdnotshaken | Agree with you there Sam-I-Am... | 19:16 |
Sam-I-Am | you can share a network with multiple projects | 19:17 |
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sterdnotshaken | He's concerned with the potential of "cross-talk" if a group of tenants were to share the same provider flat network… thoughts? | 19:18 |
Sam-I-Am | security groups | 19:18 |
sterdnotshaken | I know iptables should eliminate most of that risk though right? | 19:18 |
sterdnotshaken | got it... | 19:19 |
sterdnotshaken | ok | 19:19 |
kfox1111 | thats what fips are good at though. making better use of ip's by letting things that don't need to be public, consume only private ips. | 19:19 |
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kfox1111 | if you make everything public, then you can't save ips. | 19:19 |
Sam-I-Am | you can still have private nets | 19:19 |
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Sam-I-Am | and those vms can still access the outside world via nat without fips | 19:20 |
sterdnotshaken | so true kfox111! | 19:20 |
Sam-I-Am | as much as i cringe at nat | 19:20 |
carl_baldwin | amuller: kevinbenton: ^^ Either of you know? | 19:20 |
sterdnotshaken | same here… | 19:20 |
kfox1111 | Sam-I-Am: true. but its more complex to setup, as the default private tenant network does the nat stuff out of the box, and you just have to add fips as needed to expose stuff. | 19:20 |
Sam-I-Am | then comes the question about v6 :) | 19:21 |
Sam-I-Am | there is no nat | 19:21 |
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kfox1111 | and then you don't ever have to worry about deleting a vm because "a user might have bookmakred a specific public ip to a specific vm" | 19:21 |
kfox1111 | you just move the fip to the new vm an all is well. | 19:21 |
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kfox1111 | which goes back to my statement, there should be. :) | 19:21 |
Sam-I-Am | well, i'd hope people use dns... and you can assign an ip to another vm | 19:22 |
kfox1111 | dns is a tricky issue. for a few reasons. | 19:22 |
amuller | gregwork: it's possible to integrate with neutron with *only* neutron running | 19:22 |
amuller | gregwork: oVirt did that for a while | 19:22 |
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kfox1111 | 1, clients cache it badly | 19:22 |
kfox1111 | and 2, some organizations have way too much bureaucracy around updating a dns record. | 19:23 |
kfox1111 | its WAY easier to move a fip here then to get a dns entry updated and flushed from all the caches. | 19:23 |
Sam-I-Am | well, i can't fix stupid :) | 19:23 |
kfox1111 | I can't either. we still have to live with IE for a while. :/ | 19:23 |
amuller | carl_baldwin: I normally used python/sqlalchemy to inspect the DB when I set breakpoints in tests | 19:23 |
amuller | carl_baldwin: but inspecting the DB directly would be neat | 19:24 |
carl_baldwin | amuller: I could fall back on python / sqlalchemy but would be *much* more comfortable with the sqlite3 interface. | 19:24 |
carl_baldwin | amuller: I'm having trouble letting this idea go because I've done it before and I can't figure out why it isn't working this time. | 19:25 |
kfox1111 | anyone know if its safe to enable the port-securty extention on a openvswitch based vxlan backed dvr system? | 19:25 |
amuller | kfox1111: It is yes | 19:26 |
Sam-I-Am | i dont see why not | 19:26 |
Sam-I-Am | but it may not impact existing networks | 19:26 |
amuller | carl_baldwin: If you figure it out a blog post or devref contribution would be really nice | 19:26 |
sterdnotshaken | I wonder if it would be a horrible idea to register br-int ovs bridge to a openflow controller (in addition to it being controlled by openstack) and then, to defeat the neutron challenges, add flows that forward\circumvent public ip's coming from instances from being caught up in the dvr\snat\dhcp mix… Does openstack allow OVS to be registered and controlled by something like Opendaylight while still controlling it itsel | 19:26 |
kfox1111 | I'm ok with that. I've got a production system that doesn't have it enabled, but would like to start playing around with openstack-virtual-baremetal as a way of testing upgrades. | 19:26 |
carl_baldwin | amuller: Yes, I should've done that the first time. Ok, thanks, I'll keep trying. | 19:27 |
Sam-I-Am | sterdnotshaken: doing things like that usually Ends Badly | 19:27 |
sterdnotshaken | ha ha! | 19:27 |
amuller | sterdnotshaken: Sounds like a bad idea. However you know there's an ODL ML2 driver right? | 19:27 |
Sam-I-Am | there's a way to make what you want work, which to me seems like provider networks | 19:27 |
Sam-I-Am | or there's also other drivers... like amuller says | 19:27 |
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Sam-I-Am | if you're dying to use odl | 19:27 |
sterdnotshaken | yea, I can't convince my boss to use that… we're already using ODL in multiple clusters, but I think he views handing networking over to ODL as adding significant complexity... | 19:28 |
kfox1111 | sterdnotshaken: http://emma-hobbit.deviantart.com/art/Do-not-meddle-in-the-affairs-of-Wizards-430817472 | 19:28 |
kfox1111 | or better yet, https://www.google.com/search?q=do+not+meddle+in+the+affairs+of+wizards&safe=active&biw=981&bih=675&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj9gdCS44LOAhXMaD4KHRfnDjgQ_AUIBygC#safe=active&tbm=isch&q=do+not+meddle+in+the+affairs+of+dragons&imgrc=CNW-gCpQZGn5bM%3A :) | 19:28 |
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sterdnotshaken | LOL kfox1111! | 19:29 |
kfox1111 | there be dragons there. | 19:29 |
sterdnotshaken | he he! | 19:30 |
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Sam-I-Am | sterdnotshaken: aside from a wetware issue, it seems like provider nets is the solution. they're only flat or vlan now, but somewhere around here i recall seeing something about adding support for vxlan. no reason why it shouldnt work. | 19:31 |
kfox1111 | if you need a real vxlan support, you can probably create it outside of neutron with linuxbridge, then bind to it as a flat network and expose it as a provider network. | 19:32 |
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kfox1111 | I still think its better to push back though and just support fips. | 19:32 |
sterdnotshaken | If there were vxlan support for provider networks, that would be the equivalent of a angel sent from heaven itself! | 19:32 |
kfox1111 | this kind of network stuff has made openstack very hard to write software for, as each neutron setup is a snowflake. :/ | 19:33 |
sterdnotshaken | that makes sense | 19:34 |
Sam-I-Am | kfox1111: yeah, its a bit messy, but its all about options, right? :) | 19:34 |
Sam-I-Am | as long as someone defines a handful of fairly common architectures (which the networking guide does) | 19:35 |
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kfox1111 | Sam-I-Am: I'm usually for a ton of options, but sometimes having a fairly standardized default is benificial too. | 19:35 |
kfox1111 | and the infrastructure is flexable enough to handle the differences (no heat conditionals still. :/) | 19:35 |
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kfox1111 | if I enable port-security, which services need restarting? | 19:36 |
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kfox1111 | just neutron-server or all of the agents too? | 19:36 |
Sam-I-Am | neutron-server | 19:37 |
Sam-I-Am | iirc, your existing networks won't magically gain support | 19:38 |
kfox1111 | cool. thanks. I just need it for a new network. | 19:38 |
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kfox1111 | do all old networks still have port security enabled for them? | 19:40 |
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kfox1111 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1175464 fun... | 19:42 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1175464 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "should not add default security group to quantum unless api-request had it" [High,In progress] - Assigned to sahid (sahid-ferdjaoui) | 19:42 |
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Sam-I-Am | doesnt quite seem related | 19:42 |
Sam-I-Am | but i might not be sure what you're getting at | 19:42 |
kfox1111 | can you work around that just by making the neutron port first, and giving it to nova so nova doesn't try and do any security group stuff with it? | 19:43 |
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kfox1111 | I usually do that with my heat templates anyway. | 19:43 |
kfox1111 | seems like it, as they broke that one too at some point, then reverted the breakage: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151184/ | 19:44 |
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sc68cal | ihrachys: ack | 19:51 |
sc68cal | ihrachys: for 342493 I'd rather see it get fixed in lib/neutron and leave the neutron-legacy code alone | 19:52 |
ihrachys | sc68cal: as long as subprojects can switch to it, I am fine with that forced approach | 19:52 |
ihrachys | sc68cal: that said, shouldn't we eat our own dogfood and run our jobs with the library? | 19:52 |
sc68cal | ihrachys: ack. I suppose if a patch came in that fixed it in both -legacy and neutron i'd be happy with that | 19:52 |
sc68cal | ihrachys: that is in progress, I'm down to like 3 test failures with the new neutron | 19:53 |
ihrachys | sc68cal: I think yamamoto was going to do just that - sending a patch for both | 19:53 |
ihrachys | sc68cal: great to hear there is a visible progress ;) | 19:53 |
sc68cal | yeah hopefully someone who's core for devstack can tap in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331777/ | 19:54 |
openstackgerrit | Rawlin Peters proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Prohibit deletion of ports currently in use as trunks or subports https://review.openstack.org/345015 | 19:54 |
sc68cal | garyk or sdague - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331777/ | 19:54 |
sdague | sc68cal: looking... | 19:55 |
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sdague | +A | 19:55 |
sc68cal | woo | 19:55 |
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openstackgerrit | boden proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Fix api-ref response code formatting https://review.openstack.org/345024 | 20:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Removed N523 check that forbids oslo.* imports https://review.openstack.org/345026 | 20:10 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-fwaas: Rename DB columns: tenant -> project https://review.openstack.org/342326 | 20:14 |
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openstackgerrit | venkata anil proposed openstack/neutron: multiple port bindings for HA ports https://review.openstack.org/323314 | 20:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Darek Smigiel proposed openstack/neutron: Rename DB columns: tenant -> project https://review.openstack.org/335786 | 20:50 |
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alexpro | Hey, running liberty and a legacy router. We noticed the external network gateway port on our router always shows status as DOWN. However we actually have external connectivity and the qg interface in qrouter namespace is UP. ANy idea why the external network gateway port is always down? | 20:59 |
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xagent | we set the "ovs-vsctl br-set-external-id br-ex bridge-id br-ex" as suggested online but is still does not work | 21:01 |
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xagent | is VM internal DNS hostname resolution supposed to work for a non-DHCP enabled tenant network? | 21:06 |
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xagent | https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/liberty/internal-dns-resolution.html | 21:06 |
xagent | see that it works fine with dhcp enabled on network - neutron sends the hostname and dns_domain to DHCP agent | 21:07 |
xagent | but without dhcp agent, does it not work? | 21:07 |
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kfox1111 | how comfy would folks be with patching in https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/neutron/commit/?id=90b9cd334b1b33df933bf1b61b38c6e087c431af to a live system? | 21:22 |
kfox1111 | it does touch a db file, but looks to only provide a default value if unset. | 21:22 |
kfox1111 | not actually changing any schema. | 21:23 |
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sterdnotshaken | Is there a way to allocate say 8 ip addresses out of a external network to a tenant where they use 1 for now, but have the other 7 reserved for later? | 21:31 |
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kfox1111 | or, maybe this: | 21:33 |
kfox1111 | INSERT INTO networksecuritybindings (network_id,port_security_enabled) SELECT id,1 FROM networks | 21:33 |
kfox1111 | INSERT INTO portsecuritybindings (port_id,port_security_enabled) SELECT id,1 FROM ports | 21:33 |
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kfox1111 | that looks prett safe? | 21:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Removed smoke tags from *SearchCriteriaTest test cases https://review.openstack.org/344903 | 21:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Aradhana Singh proposed openstack/neutron: DHCP Auto Scheduling for Segments https://review.openstack.org/333716 | 22:11 |
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openstackgerrit | John Perkins proposed openstack/neutron: Agent common config https://review.openstack.org/343045 | 22:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Adolfo Duarte proposed openstack/neutron: RPC server side for trunk driver https://review.openstack.org/339283 | 23:36 |
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xagent | if an admin user in one tenant creates a Shared network, can a self-service user in another tenant attach that network to his own tenant's router? | 23:47 |
Sam-I-Am | if the network is shared, anyone can use it by default | 23:48 |
Sam-I-Am | unless you use rbac to limit it | 23:48 |
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