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openstackgerrit | Ryan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: Ensure unit tests don't assume an IP address allocation strategy https://review.openstack.org/303603 | 00:19 |
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tidwellr | amuller kevinbenton carl_baldwin: I know it's late but when you get a chance ^^^^ | 00:20 |
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openstackgerrit | fumihiko kakuma proposed openstack/neutron: Update for removing ofagent https://review.openstack.org/306205 | 02:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-lib: Add IPv6_LLA_PREFIX constant https://review.openstack.org/313793 | 02:43 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-lib: Remove ICMPV6_ALLOWED_TYPES https://review.openstack.org/310909 | 02:43 |
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garyk1 | yamamoto: you around? | 03:57 |
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openstackgerrit | ZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: WIP unify IPv6 ICMP for duplicated sg rules check https://review.openstack.org/317222 | 04:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Brandon Logan proposed openstack/neutron: WIP - DHCP Agent Scheduling API for Segments https://review.openstack.org/317227 | 04:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Pecan: skip all notifications on failures https://review.openstack.org/292872 | 04:34 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Add retry support to pecan https://review.openstack.org/292867 | 04:35 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/314363 | 04:39 |
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openstackgerrit | venkatamahesh proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Update the home-page with developer documentation https://review.openstack.org/317243 | 04:47 |
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openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/neutron: Pecan: remove deprecation warning https://review.openstack.org/317254 | 05:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Reedip proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Remove case dependancy for user inputs https://review.openstack.org/271894 | 05:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Reedip proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Improve Help message of VPN Update CLI https://review.openstack.org/271191 | 06:17 |
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changzhi | amuller: hi, please review these patches https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316418/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316422/. These patches are about QA test you mentioned in mail list. ;-) hope for your reply. | 06:27 |
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openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/neutron: Segment: remove derpcation warning for converters https://review.openstack.org/317273 | 06:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Zhengguang Ou proposed openstack/neutron: delete conntrack entries properly https://review.openstack.org/315805 | 06:51 |
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openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/neutron: Segment: remove deprecation warning for converters https://review.openstack.org/317273 | 07:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Zhengguang Ou proposed openstack/neutron: delete conntrack entries properly https://review.openstack.org/315805 | 07:25 |
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openstackgerrit | bin proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP]move dns related data field to dnsports https://review.openstack.org/313291 | 07:46 |
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openstackgerrit | bin proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP]move dns related data field to dnsports https://review.openstack.org/313291 | 07:55 |
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slaweq | ajo_: hello | 08:00 |
slaweq | can You have a look on | 08:00 |
slaweq | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/303626/ | 08:00 |
slaweq | thx | 08:00 |
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openstackgerrit | bin proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP]move dns related data field to dnsports https://review.openstack.org/313291 | 08:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/303346 | 08:10 |
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pjm6 | good morning | 08:20 |
pjm6 | anyone know if its possible to make dhcp agent work with other VMs that are in the same network? | 08:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Henry proposed openstack/neutron: Add OVS agent support remote VXLAN VTEP https://review.openstack.org/317309 | 08:27 |
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openstackgerrit | zhenmei proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Neutron/VPNaaS service driver for VMWare NSX-v ipsec vpn https://review.openstack.org/303226 | 08:47 |
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pjm6 | I saw another option , that are | 08:47 |
pjm6 | dhcp_broadcast_reply | 08:48 |
pjm6 | if this option be True, maybe my DHCP agent work externally? | 08:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Add flavor/service provider support to routers https://review.openstack.org/268941 | 09:01 |
openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Add router precommit events https://review.openstack.org/312860 | 09:01 |
openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Enable flavor plugin as a default service plugin https://review.openstack.org/317325 | 09:01 |
openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Add method to get service provider names by resources https://review.openstack.org/317326 | 09:01 |
kevinbenton | pjm6: you can create neutron ports for the other VMs with their mac addresses | 09:01 |
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kevinbenton | pjm6: but if you just want the dhcp process to respond anonymously to other requests, you need to modify the agent code | 09:02 |
pjm6 | kevinbenton, even if that machines are outside of Nova? | 09:02 |
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kevinbenton | pjm6: yep | 09:02 |
pjm6 | kevinbenton, thanks :) | 09:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Hunt Xu proposed openstack/neutron: Metering: check if namespace exists before running iptables commands https://review.openstack.org/316688 | 09:02 |
kevinbenton | pjm6: the dhcp agent sets up reservations from port IPs and macs | 09:02 |
pjm6 | do you have a doc explaining that? | 09:02 |
kevinbenton | pjm6: it doesn't care where the request comes from | 09:02 |
pjm6 | it make senses | 09:02 |
kevinbenton | pjm6: no, i don't think there is a doc that explains this anywhere | 09:03 |
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pjm6 | hm :\ so I must do it in the CLI ? | 09:03 |
pjm6 | mac-address attribution ? | 09:03 |
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pjm6 | I need something like this http://docs.openstack.org/cli-reference/neutron.html kevinbenton ? | 09:05 |
pjm6 | (it's possible to make IP address being automatically generated?) | 09:05 |
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kevinbenton | pjm6: neutron port-create private --fixed-ip ip_address=10.0.0.99 --mac-address 00:11:22:33:44:55 | 09:06 |
kevinbenton | pjm6: where 'private' is the net name | 09:06 |
kevinbenton | pjm6: yes, no prob | 09:07 |
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kevinbenton | pjm6: if you don't want a specific ip, just exclude the --fixed-ip option | 09:07 |
kevinbenton | neutron port-create private --mac-address 00:11:22:33:44:55 | 09:07 |
kevinbenton | pjm6: ^^ that will automatically get an available IP | 09:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Zhengguang Ou proposed openstack/neutron: fixes fixed_ips don't be deleted from ipset member https://review.openstack.org/317333 | 09:11 |
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garyk1 | yamamoto: ping | 09:28 |
openstackgerrit | venkata anil proposed openstack/neutron: l2pop fdb flows for HA router ports https://review.openstack.org/255237 | 09:28 |
yamamoto | garyk1: pong | 09:28 |
garyk1 | yamamoto: did we manage to make any progress with the devstack patch? | 09:28 |
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yamamoto | garyk1: no. do you think we can convince sean? | 09:29 |
garyk1 | yamamoto: i am not sure. he did not answer mails on the list, or comments on the review, just blocked it. | 09:30 |
openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Ensure ML2's core methods not called in transaction https://review.openstack.org/275110 | 09:30 |
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pjm6 | kevinbenton, thank you very much for the help :D | 09:31 |
pjm6 | i will test it | 09:31 |
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kevinbenton | pjm6: sounds good. i'm going offline now. you can leave me a message on here if you run into an issue | 09:32 |
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yamamoto | garyk1: while i think a revert is the best thing to do, for midonet i'm investigating a copy-and-paste solution as well. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316992/ | 09:33 |
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garyk1 | yamamoto: i agree - a revert is the best thing. changes like this are fragmenting the community more and more | 09:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Hirofumi Ichihara proposed openstack/neutron: Add AZ test for DVR https://review.openstack.org/299706 | 09:46 |
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openstackgerrit | ZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: fix duplicated sg rules check for IPv6 ICMP https://review.openstack.org/317222 | 10:04 |
openstackgerrit | Hong Hui Xiao proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP]Enable create and delete for segments in ML2 https://review.openstack.org/317358 | 10:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Margaret Frances proposed openstack/neutron: WIP-Refactor QoS plugin to avoid code duplication https://review.openstack.org/294463 | 10:19 |
openstackgerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] ovsdb: Reconnect when ovs poller gets stuck https://review.openstack.org/317369 | 10:23 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/314363 | 10:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Zhengguang Ou proposed openstack/neutron: delete conntrack entries properly https://review.openstack.org/315805 | 11:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: TESTINGONLY: Log ovsdb commands https://review.openstack.org/304600 | 12:04 |
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gsagie | kevinbenton: ping | 12:06 |
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HenryG | jlibosva: Morning! How goes the functional timeout investigation? | 12:13 |
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ajo_ | ping apuimedo : https://atlas.hashicorp.com/boxes/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&sort=&provider=libvirt&q=trusty64 :-) | 12:14 |
jlibosva | HenryG: hi, I proposed a change in our ovsdb code to workaround the issue - just in sake to decrease failure rate of func tests | 12:14 |
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jlibosva | HenryG: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317369/ | 12:15 |
ajo_ | I see no great sources official sources of libvirt / ubuntu trusty64 .. :-) | 12:15 |
ajo_ | so thanks :) | 12:15 |
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jlibosva | HenryG: not sure what are the latest info you have - but basically the probe thing isn't the culrpit | 12:15 |
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jlibosva | reminds me I should update the bug | 12:15 |
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jlibosva | HenryG: so latest info is again that I don't know what's causing the block of poller to ovsdb | 12:16 |
HenryG | jlibosva: could it be a bug in ovs? | 12:17 |
jlibosva | HenryG: The patch that I sent requires some tests - I try to simulate the stuck we see on gate with functional tests to prove we don't lose commands that are in transaction when it happens | 12:17 |
jlibosva | HenryG: yes | 12:17 |
jlibosva | HenryG: I think it is a bug in ovs | 12:17 |
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antony_ | Hi Team , i want to configure neutron cli using restconf , is there any way to do tht ? any pointers ? | 12:22 |
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garyk1 | mestery: you around? | 12:26 |
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apuimedo | ajo_: what was that ping? | 12:42 |
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apuimedo | you want an update of that box? | 12:42 |
apuimedo | I think I have a packer job somewhere to do it | 12:42 |
ajo_ | apuimedo, no, just to say thanks :D | 12:42 |
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apuimedo | you're welcome :-) | 12:42 |
slaweq | ajo_: ping | 12:43 |
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apuimedo | ajo_: I really think Ubuntu should have some jenkins job somewhere that builds this image | 12:43 |
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apuimedo | using virtualbox makes me grumpy | 12:44 |
dukhlov | kevinbenton, carl_baldwin: Hello, I guess that my patch is ready, please review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313277/ | 12:44 |
apuimedo | jamespage: ^^ :P | 12:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] ovsdb: Reconnect when ovs poller gets stuck https://review.openstack.org/317369 | 12:53 |
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mestery | garyk: Hi | 12:57 |
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jamespage | apuimedo, ? | 13:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Fixed help messages for path_mtu and global_physnet_mtus options https://review.openstack.org/302089 | 13:11 |
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openstackgerrit | steve proposed openstack/neutron: Add Linux bridge agent support remote VXLAN VTEP https://review.openstack.org/316596 | 13:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Hunt Xu proposed openstack/neutron: Metering: check if namespace exists before running iptables commands https://review.openstack.org/316688 | 13:16 |
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sanjay_ | hi all , how can i understand neutron code flow .. is there any documents regarding this .. thanks | 13:16 |
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ajo_ | apuimedo, me too (about vbox.. kvm works wonderfully) | 13:34 |
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evrardjp | good morning/afternoon everyone | 13:35 |
apuimedo | jamespage: I was wondering if it were possible that Canonical would host some job that would generate vagrant box for trusty/xenial for libvirt | 13:35 |
apuimedo | like the one I generated in https://atlas.hashicorp.com/boxes/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&sort=&provider=libvirt&q=trusty64 | 13:36 |
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jamespage | apuimedo, I have an inkling we might already do that... | 13:36 |
jamespage | one sec | 13:36 |
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apuimedo | that be great | 13:36 |
apuimedo | it's a pain with my home connection to do that :P | 13:36 |
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jamespage | apuimedo, https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/vagrant/trusty/current/ but I think that might be the wrong way around... | 13:36 |
jamespage | as in that's a vagrant ubuntu image for virtualbox I think... | 13:37 |
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apuimedo | jamespage: there are for vbox IIRC | 13:37 |
apuimedo | so you can't use them with vagrant-libvirt | 13:37 |
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ajo_ | otherwiseguy, jlibosva ouch, something weird going on with neutron-rootwrap | 13:53 |
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ajo_ | I'm getting an OOM trying to deploy an octavia devstack, rootwrap is eating 2GB RSS | 13:53 |
ajo_ | ohh | 13:53 |
ajo_ | worse than that | 13:54 |
ajo_ | 8GB RSS | 13:54 |
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ajo_ | (the one that got everything killed) -> http://paste.openstack.org/show/497347/ | 13:54 |
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ajo_ | nmagnezi, ^ | 13:54 |
* ajo_ looks for recent changes in rootwrap | 13:54 | |
jlibosva | ajo_: neutron-rootwrap or daemon? | 13:54 |
ajo_ | jlibosva, daemon | 13:54 |
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ajo_ | sorry :D | 13:54 |
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ajo_ | yikes, I see no recent/interesting changes | 13:55 |
ajo_ | wtf... | 13:55 |
nmagnezi | ajo_, how do you deploy exactly? | 13:56 |
ajo_ | https://github.com/openstack/oslo.rootwrap/commits/master | 13:56 |
ajo_ | hmm, devstack, on ubuntu trusty64 | 13:56 |
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sc68cal | sounds like a bug to file | 13:57 |
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ajo_ | sc68cal, let me look for more OOM errors | 13:58 |
ajo_ | I've seen it locally so-far | 13:58 |
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otherwiseguy | ajo_: huh. I'm assuming nothing is using execute() where it should be using create_process() for a long running process? | 13:59 |
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garyk | mestery: russellb: you guys around? have a question regarding ovn | 13:59 |
russellb | yes | 13:59 |
mestery | garyk: here | 13:59 |
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garyk | today with ovn are we using native l3 support or the l3 agents in neutron | 14:00 |
russellb | both | 14:00 |
garyk | if it is the former the devstack in its current form break | 14:00 |
russellb | it's an option | 14:00 |
garyk | ah, ok. | 14:00 |
russellb | we had the neutron l3 agent gate job first, that's what runs full tempest and is gating | 14:00 |
russellb | native l3 job is newer | 14:00 |
garyk | the reason i ask is - https://review.openstack.org/316660 | 14:00 |
garyk | if you are not running a l3-agent then things blow up | 14:01 |
russellb | sounds like a problem | 14:01 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Remove unhelpful test of oslo.service ServiceLauncher https://review.openstack.org/316331 | 14:01 |
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mestery | yeah it does | 14:01 |
garyk | ideally i think that ovn should run without the l3 agent, but not 100% sure if it is there yet | 14:01 |
russellb | right | 14:01 |
russellb | use of the l3 agent was just part of bootstrapping OVN | 14:01 |
garyk | so we are in a pickle at the moment as the patch is blocked and all of the plugisn that have no l3 agents are broken | 14:02 |
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mestery | #sadpanda garyk | 14:04 |
mestery | garyk: I saw the email thread, but the revert to fix this won't land? | 14:05 |
garyk | yeah. i am a sad camper at the moment | 14:05 |
amuller | It was basically a genius move to increase adoptio of the L3 agent | 14:05 |
garyk | sean -2'ed and has not comment on the patch nor answered the mails on the list | 14:05 |
garyk | amuller: :) | 14:05 |
sc68cal | it is not true that I have not answered the mails on the list | 14:05 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/314363 | 14:06 |
sc68cal | do not attribute evil intent to my actions, thank you very much. | 14:06 |
garyk | sc68cal: i did not see any answers and the comments from yamaoto were not addressed | 14:06 |
mestery | I saw sc68cal answer on the ML garyk | 14:06 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/316950 | 14:06 |
garyk | i may have missed this. can you guys please point me to that | 14:06 |
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sc68cal | I see yamamoto pushed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316992/ | 14:07 |
garyk | yeah, but that is a ugly hack for them to get things working | 14:08 |
garyk | its is fragmenting abn already fragmented community | 14:08 |
garyk | why not share common stuff? seriously | 14:08 |
garyk | so now N plugins need to go and do their own hacks to get this stuff working. | 14:09 |
sc68cal | I'm sorry gary, but last I checked you have very little contribution into DevStack - so please don't patronize me | 14:09 |
garyk | sc68cal: why are you making some profesional personal? | 14:09 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/317505 | 14:10 |
garyk | please keep on those lines. | 14:10 |
sc68cal | I think patches like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316992 are the way forward | 14:10 |
garyk | if you have problems with my devstack contributions then please feel free to raise them | 14:10 |
sc68cal | the way we had "common" things in DevStck was a complete mess | 14:10 |
garyk | i am not sure that i agree with you on this one. | 14:11 |
sc68cal | so, I think people should put a little bit of code in their own plugins for handling l3. yeah it sucks the way I went about it, but that's where we're at | 14:11 |
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garyk | if that is the case i think that you should propse it to the community. the downside for us that maintain l3 API's wupport without l3 agents is problematic. | 14:12 |
garyk | that may be a large number of decomposed plugins | 14:12 |
garyk | i just think that you are breaking OVN which is a stadium project. it may not be now as they use the l3 agent. but soon that will go away | 14:13 |
garyk | i still fail to see any valid justification to block this. but maybe that is me and I should spend more time working on how to hack around this | 14:13 |
HenryG | ihrachys: ping | 14:14 |
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ihrachys | HenryG: pong | 14:14 |
garyk | that in my honest opinion is a problem as everyone will need to do that | 14:14 |
sc68cal | OVN already has some devstack plugin code around how they do L3 wiring | 14:14 |
sc68cal | if I am not mistaken - I linked it in my ML post | 14:14 |
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russellb | because we couldn't get a trivial change merged into the existing stuff, that's right :) | 14:14 |
garyk | why not share things in one common place if possible and that is devstack. | 14:14 |
HenryG | ihrachys: there is an issue with the current contract/expand upgrades and a functional test | 14:14 |
sc68cal | russellb: I disagree with the trivial classification | 14:15 |
garyk | was the trivial change the default for the Q_L3.. | 14:15 |
russellb | heh, ok | 14:15 |
russellb | no | 14:15 |
garyk | if so we should have merged that | 14:15 |
russellb | i dont' even remember at this point, it's not a big deal | 14:15 |
russellb | just trolling sc68cal | 14:15 |
HenryG | ihrachys: https://review.openstack.org/285548 | 14:15 |
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HenryG | ihrachys: look at the functional test failure ... | 14:16 |
ihrachys | HenryG: right. | 14:16 |
ihrachys | HenryG: because why is it in contract branch? | 14:16 |
openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/neutron: Segment: remove deprecation warning for converters https://review.openstack.org/317273 | 14:16 |
HenryG | ihrachys: because ... (bear with me while I look things up) ... | 14:17 |
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HenryG | ihrachys: this was done on the contract branch: https://review.openstack.org/242393 | 14:19 |
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HenryG | ihrachys: now FKs are being created which reference that renamed table | 14:20 |
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HenryG | ihrachys: all those FK additions must be done on the contract branch | 14:21 |
ihrachys | HenryG: ok, I see. | 14:21 |
HenryG | ihrachys: furthermore, the code and models are dependent on the contract branch now. | 14:22 |
ihrachys | HenryG: so we need a dependency set on expand migration to make it work :-| | 14:22 |
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HenryG | ihrachys: you mean the expand branch needs to depend on the contract branch? | 14:22 |
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ihrachys | HenryG: well, that would solve the ordering issue. but it makes it unsafe to apply expand. | 14:23 |
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HenryG | ihrachys: right | 14:23 |
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ihrachys | HenryG: we probably need a way to full-stop and warn --expand attempts if they can't be fulfilled safely | 14:24 |
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HenryG | ihrachys: We also need to ban renames, soon | 14:25 |
ihrachys | HenryG: it sucks hard nevertheless, since it makes --expand of no use for the release. in the future, we would handle that thru in-python data migration realized behind object facade | 14:26 |
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HenryG | ihrachys: We plan to rename tenant to project for this release. After that we can do proper enforcing for contract and expand. | 14:27 |
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ihrachys | HenryG: for the time being, we may add a bit of code in the test to allow disabling the validation on script by script basis | 14:28 |
HenryG | mlavalle: ^^ would you like to try that? | 14:29 |
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mlavalle | HenryG: yeah, as long as we can move forward with that patchset :-) | 14:30 |
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ihrachys | HenryG: mlavalle: note that alembic returns you script objects that allow accessing script modules. so let's have an attribute in the global scope of the module disabling the test. e.g. setting enforce_branch_constraints = False would make the test skip. | 14:31 |
ihrachys | that is actually a better way, since it keeps --expand of use | 14:31 |
HenryG | ihrachys: sounds good. mlavalle: shall I push a patchset with an update as suggested by Ihar? | 14:32 |
ihrachys | HenryG: a separate patch please | 14:33 |
HenryG | mlavalle: it has to be on the script in your change | 14:33 |
HenryG | OK only the flag needs to go in your patch | 14:34 |
HenryG | mlavalle: I will push a patch that you need to depend on | 14:34 |
mlavalle | ok | 14:34 |
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ihrachys | HenryG: right. with explanation of how we got to that point | 14:36 |
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Sam-I-Am | moo. | 14:43 |
mlavalle | HenryG, ihrachys: thanks for your help. Much appreciated by the routed networks team :-) | 14:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Na Zhu proposed openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing: Fix the issue about BGP dragent reports state failed https://review.openstack.org/317550 | 15:01 |
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ajo_ | nmagnezi, sc68cal, jlibosva , otherwiseguy, I'm going to try to deploy with another trusty64 base image, on a different hipervisor, since I'm not finding the issue anywhere else | 15:03 |
ajo_ | (the rootwrap daemon exploding up to 8GB) | 15:03 |
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sc68cal | ajo_: ok. just a hunch? | 15:03 |
sc68cal | so you think it's the hypervisor? | 15:04 |
jlibosva | ajo_: maybe it's better to find what grows there while you have a reproducer | 15:04 |
sc68cal | if the only thing that is changing is which HV you're using | 15:04 |
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ajo_ | sc68cal, I don't know, since, the change of HV makes me change the image | 15:04 |
sc68cal | ah. | 15:04 |
ajo_ | generally I deploy on parallels / + parallels image | 15:04 |
ajo_ | but I got a bigger desktop machine with ram, and there I have libvirt / kvm | 15:05 |
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ajo_ | so, the vagrant image I'm "summoning" is different | 15:05 |
sc68cal | ah parallels. so retro :) | 15:05 |
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ajo_ | :P sc68cal it works well | 15:05 |
jlibosva | ajo_: that explains your interest in libvirt provider for Vagrantfiles :) | 15:05 |
ajo_ | jlibosva, hehehe | 15:05 |
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ajo_ | jlibosva, I will look back into profiling the problematic deployment (or all) once I find the root cause | 15:06 |
sc68cal | ajo_: good luck. keep poking at it since we want rootwrap-daemon as the default in the future | 15:06 |
sc68cal | so I'm rooting for you | 15:06 |
ajo_ | yes | 15:06 |
ajo_ | sc68cal, I think it's the default now | 15:06 |
ajo_ | sc68cal, since I've never asked devstack to use rootwrap-daemon, and it's always been there | 15:07 |
sc68cal | gotcha. well in that case I've just removed the option for anything besides rootwrap daemon in lib/neutron | 15:07 |
sc68cal | so you can get any rootwrap you like, as long as it's daemon | 15:08 |
ajo_ | :D | 15:08 |
ajo_ | sc68cal, I'll ping you back jlibosva & sc68cal let's see what I find | 15:09 |
ajo_ | ihrachys, no SFC meeting in the end? | 15:09 |
ajo_ | well | 15:09 |
jlibosva | ajo_: it's 1700UTC | 15:09 |
ajo_ | SFC->common classifier / OV | 15:09 |
ajo_ | ohh | 15:09 |
ajo_ | UTC! | 15:09 |
jlibosva | ajo_: in 2 hours | 15:09 |
ajo_ | yikes caramba! | 15:09 |
ihrachys | ajo_: ? | 15:09 |
ihrachys | ajo_: UTC man | 15:09 |
ajo_ | caraaaamba | 15:09 |
ajo_ | :P | 15:09 |
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ajo_ | ajo-- | 15:10 |
ajo_ | ok, I'll try to re-join at 17:00 UTC but not sure if I'll be able :( | 15:10 |
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ajo_ | jlibosva, ihrachys , if you'll be around at that meeting, have a read on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314106/ if possible | 15:10 |
jlibosva | ajo_: roger that | 15:11 |
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sc68cal | ajo_: thanks - good luck :) | 15:15 |
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ajo_ | sc68cal, apparently my parallels devstack is happy, I'm going to check the processes... | 15:41 |
sc68cal | :) | 15:41 |
ajo_ | processes look normal | 15:43 |
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ajo_ | the exploding one, runs a sightly more modern kernel Linux devstack 3.19.0-37-generic #42~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Mon Nov 23 15:13:51 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux vs 3.19.0-25 | 15:47 |
ajo_ | ping apuimedo ^ :) | 15:47 |
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ajo_ | I have an issue with your trusty64 (compared to other hypervisor + trusty64 image combinations) | 15:47 |
ajo_ | it eventually explodes in tears because neutron-rootwrap-daemon sucks up 8GB of RAM | 15:48 |
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ajo_ | apuimedo, any idea of why your image has a sightly newer kernel compared to others? (and I tried to do an apt-get update on the older... no new kernel) | 15:49 |
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brianstajkowski | dhellmann: updated the required option patch based on the convos with garbutt - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308524/ | 15:54 |
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brianstajkowski | dhellmann: minimal flag and least amout of code change | 15:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Ryan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: Ensure unit tests don't assume an IP address allocation strategy https://review.openstack.org/303603 | 16:06 |
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ajo_ | sc68cal, otherwiseguy : http://paste.openstack.org/show/497379/ | 16:18 |
ajo_ | this is how rootwrap deamon get's to grow 26MB/s or so, until taking all your memory | 16:18 |
ajo_ | some process is sending continuous crap out | 16:18 |
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ajo_ | and rootwrap daemon takes it all to memory, no limit | 16:19 |
sc68cal | some string is getting appended to? | 16:19 |
ajo_ | sc68cal, it should be something like that, only that I don't see the process generating that | 16:20 |
ajo_ | :] | 16:20 |
ajo_ | I suspect we're going to be eventually hit by this :/ | 16:20 |
ajo_ | oh crap | 16:21 |
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ajo_ | it's ip rule | 16:21 |
sc68cal | yeah | 16:21 |
ajo_ | why is it doing such messy thing | 16:21 |
ajo_ | 0:from all lookup local | 16:21 |
ajo_ | 0:from all lookup local | 16:21 |
ajo_ | 0:from all lookup local | 16:21 |
ajo_ | 0:from all lookup local | 16:21 |
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ajo_ | and forever... | 16:21 |
sc68cal | right | 16:21 |
ajo_ | carl_baldwin, ^ | 16:21 |
ajo_ | have you ever seen such thing? | 16:21 |
ajo_ | to make it more interesting | 16:22 |
ajo_ | both versions are equal: | 16:22 |
ajo_ | root@devstack:~# ip -V | 16:22 |
ajo_ | ip utility, iproute2-ss131122 | 16:22 |
ajo_ | vagrant@devstack:~$ ip -V | 16:22 |
ajo_ | ip utility, iproute2-ss131122 | 16:22 |
ajo_ | in the two different VMs, the exploding one, and the non exploding one | 16:22 |
ajo_ | just different kernel | 16:22 |
ajo_ | root@devstack:~# ip rule | 16:23 |
ajo_ | 0:from all lookup local | 16:23 |
ajo_ | 32766:from all lookup main | 16:23 |
ajo_ | 32767:from all lookup default | 16:23 |
ajo_ | the non exploding behaves normally | 16:23 |
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ajo_ | ok | 16:23 |
ajo_ | I have enough meat to file a bug | 16:23 |
haleyb | is this dvr? it does add ip rules | 16:23 |
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kevinbenton | ajo_: can you reproduce by just running ip rule locally? | 16:25 |
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ajo_ | kevinbenton, ip can reproduce it running ip rule on the VM, yes | 16:27 |
ajo_ | ip-> I | 16:27 |
kevinbenton | ajo_: oh great :) | 16:27 |
ajo_ | kevinbenton, gdb ? :) strace? | 16:28 |
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kevinbenton | ajo_: so somehow we are triggering a bug in there | 16:28 |
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ajo_ | kevinbenton, I suspect in the kernel, may be, since ip utils report the same version | 16:28 |
ajo_ | on the crashing, and non-crashing vms | 16:28 |
ajo_ | just different kernel, for some reason | 16:29 |
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kevinbenton | ajo_: yeah | 16:29 |
kevinbenton | ajo_: i'm also on ss131122 and i haven't encountered it | 16:29 |
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ajo_ | ocket(PF_NETLINK, SOCK_RAW|SOCK_CLOEXEC, 0) = 3 | 16:30 |
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ajo_ | recvmsg(3, {msg_name(12)={sa_family=AF_NETLINK, pid=0, groups=00000000}, msg_iov(1)=[{",\0\0\0 \0\2\0\350F;W\252J\0\0\2\0\0\0\377\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\10\0\17\0"..., 16384}], msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=0}, 0) = 44 | 16:30 |
ajo_ | write(1, "0:\tfrom all lookup local \n", 26) = 26 | 16:30 |
ajo_ | recvmsg(3, {msg_name(12)={sa_family=AF_NETLINK, pid=0, groups=00000000}, msg_iov(1)=[{",\0\0\0 \0\2\0\350F;W\252J\0\0\2\0\0\0\377\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\10\0\17\0"..., 16384}], msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=0}, 0) = 44 | 16:30 |
ajo_ | write(1, "0:\tfrom all lookup local \n", 26) = 26 | 16:30 |
ajo_ | runs in a loop forever | 16:30 |
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ajo_ | I suspect it's just a kernel bug, yes | 16:30 |
kevinbenton | ajo_: ah, so receiving straight from the kernel that way | 16:30 |
ajo_ | kevinbenton, I will try a newer tag of the kernel, and see | 16:31 |
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ajo_ | kevinbenton, may be we should prepare rootwrap daemon to stand such event... like adding a limit | 16:31 |
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dasm | armax: ping. i see you pinged me yesterday at Neutron Team Meeting. I had to leave earlier. | 16:32 |
kevinbenton | ajo_: yeah, seems reasonable to accept a maximum argument after which it interrupts and raises an exception | 16:32 |
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ajo_ | kevinbenton, https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1582807 | 16:32 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1582807 in oslo.rootwrap "neutron-rootwrap-daemon explodes because of misbehaving "ip rule"" [Undecided,New] | 16:32 |
dasm | armax: in general, spec lacks of +A. Minor work is happening around it, but I didn't wanted to start changes before spec is accepted. | 16:32 |
openstackgerrit | venkata anil proposed openstack/neutron: Reduce num_threads for state change and MD servers https://review.openstack.org/317616 | 16:32 |
sc68cal | ajo_: man that's crazy | 16:33 |
kevinbenton | ajo_: that's all right from oslo now isn't it? | 16:33 |
sc68cal | ajo_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/iproute2/+bug/1518715 | 16:34 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1514785 in linux (Ubuntu Vivid) "duplicate for #1518715 kernel 3.16.0.52+53 - ip rule repeats all default rules (messing up rule table)" [High,Fix released] | 16:34 |
carl_baldwin | ajo_: I can only think of dvr doing ip rule stuff. But, I have seen that ip rule will happily add duplicate rules if you don't check if a rule is already there. I wonder if that has anything to do with ti. | 16:34 |
ajo_ | kevinbenton, rootwrap deamon, yes? | 16:34 |
kevinbenton | ajo_: yeah, so we need to re-assign to them as a feature request | 16:34 |
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sc68cal | which links to | 16:34 |
sc68cal | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1514785 | 16:34 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1514785 in linux (Ubuntu Vivid) "kernel 3.16.0.52+53 - ip rule repeats all default rules (messing up rule table)" [High,Fix released] | 16:34 |
ajo_ | ahaa sc68cal that's it ye | 16:35 |
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ajo_ | so, it happens again in Linux devstack 3.19.0-37-generic | 16:35 |
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haleyb | so for once it's not neutrons fault :) | 16:37 |
sc68cal | no it's still neutron's fault | 16:38 |
sc68cal | we'll just have to figure out how it is later ;) | 16:38 |
ajo_ | lol sc68cal | 16:39 |
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rohit121003 | mitaka release can be used for SFC? | 16:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Ryan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: Ensure unit tests don't assume an IP address allocation strategy https://review.openstack.org/303603 | 16:46 |
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amuller | tidwellr: sorry one more question on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/303603/ | 16:59 |
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cathy__ | Hi, let's start the discussion for the common flow classifier | 17:00 |
igordcard | cathy__: hi | 17:01 |
yamamoto | hi | 17:01 |
s3wong | cathy__: hello | 17:01 |
ajo_ | hi | 17:01 |
pcarver | cathy__: hi Cathy | 17:01 |
cathy__ | hi everyone | 17:01 |
ajo_ | you can log via meetbot here if you want | 17:01 |
jlibosva | heya | 17:01 |
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cathy__ | just wondering if we can use #start_meeting in this channel? | 17:01 |
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ajo_ | ... #startmeeting network-common-flow-classifier | 17:01 |
ajo_ | I did it once, by error, it worked :) | 17:02 |
davidsha | hi | 17:02 |
jlibosva | ajo_: lol | 17:02 |
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cathy__ | ajo_: so we can use #startmeeting to log the discussion? | 17:02 |
davidsha | yup | 17:02 |
ajo_ | #startmeeting network-common-flow-classifier | 17:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue May 17 17:02:44 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ajo_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'network_common_flow_classifier' | 17:02 |
ajo_ | #addchair cathy__ | 17:02 |
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ajo_ | how do you add a chair? :) | 17:02 |
cathy__ | ajo_: thanks | 17:02 |
ajo_ | #help | 17:03 |
igordcard | .. ? #chair | 17:03 |
ajo_ | #chair cathy__ | 17:03 |
openstack | Current chairs: ajo_ cathy__ | 17:03 |
s3wong | #chair | 17:03 |
ajo_ | thanks | 17:03 |
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ajo_ | cathy__, please chair, I just wanted to take the blame ;) | 17:03 |
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cathy__ | First I am not thinking running weekly meetings for this feature or creating another stadium for this feature | 17:05 |
cathy__ | because | 17:05 |
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ajo_ | well, IMHO it's something that has to live into the core, to be leveraged by any interested plugin | 17:05 |
cathy__ | ajo_: agree | 17:06 |
davidsha | +1 | 17:06 |
jlibosva | +1 | 17:06 |
ajo_ | so, no separate stadium project, I believe that was ihrachys opinion too | 17:06 |
igordcard | +1 | 17:06 |
s3wong | +1 | 17:06 |
cathy__ | I am thinking that we create a bug for the core and a spec for the core and code for the core:-) | 17:06 |
pcarver | +1 | 17:06 |
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ajo_ | cathy__, on the other hand, I believe that may be another weekly/biweekly meeting for a while could be beneficial to run for timelaps | 17:07 |
ajo_ | but, that requires finding a good timeslot | 17:07 |
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cathy__ | ajo_: finding a good time slot and an available channel is the challenge | 17:07 |
ajo_ | since all openstack-meeting channels are full for the timeslot we agreed during the summit. | 17:07 |
cathy__ | OK let me see if I can find a time slot for biweekly meetings | 17:08 |
amuller | can't you just create a new channel? | 17:08 |
jlibosva | can't we just create another channel? | 17:08 |
amuller | jlibosva: you owe me icecream now I think | 17:08 |
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cathy__ | amuller: do you know how to create a new channel? | 17:08 |
ajo_ | amuller, I raised that once, they told me... it was a bad idea, because that reduces the chances of people being able to join all meetings | 17:08 |
ajo_ | amuller, but may be it's time we ask again for it, we have many projects now | 17:08 |
amuller | ajo_: huh? =p | 17:08 |
davidsha | just #join and the channel name, it creates it if it doesn't exist | 17:08 |
ajo_ | oh, really? | 17:09 |
s3wong | cathy__: create channel is easy, just do a /join on a channel that doesn't exist on friend | 17:09 |
jlibosva | davidsha: we need the openstack bot there | 17:09 |
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amuller | davidsha: I think cathy__ was talking about something supported by infra so it has a bot and it logs the contents | 17:09 |
ajo_ | but, we need the meetbot | 17:09 |
s3wong | cathy__: but you have to do the follow-on work to put in openstackgerrit and other bots | 17:09 |
davidsha | jlibosva, amuller: ack | 17:09 |
cathy__ | davidsha: cool, so easy? | 17:09 |
davidsha | cathy__: to have a channel yes, to have the openstack bot that will keep logs etc no. | 17:10 |
s3wong | s/friend/freenode | 17:10 |
ajo_ | let's try finding a spot for the meeting, and if we fail, let's raise the thing again in openstack-dev | 17:10 |
ajo_ | IMHO, it's time to expand the openstack-meeting channel family | 17:10 |
jlibosva | makes sense to me, number of projects grows so channels should grow too | 17:11 |
ajo_ | exactly | 17:11 |
ajo_ | #action cathy__ look for available slots for a bi-weekly meeting (ajo will look too) | 17:12 |
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yamamoto | which timezones people here are in? | 17:12 |
davidsha | <--GMT | 17:12 |
yamamoto | <-- JST (UTC+9) | 17:12 |
igordcard | UTC0/+1 here | 17:12 |
ajo_ | me: CEST (UTC+2) | 17:12 |
jlibosva | UTC+2 | 17:12 |
davidsha | We have people far sides of the planet, from west coast to japan I believe | 17:12 |
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ajo_ | yamoto, it's super late for you ':] | 17:13 |
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pcarver | EDT/EST UTC-4/5 | 17:13 |
ajo_ | yamamoto, sorry | 17:13 |
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ajo_ | ':D | 17:13 |
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ajo_ | oh, we lost cathy__ | 17:14 |
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ajo_ | ok, let's consider that when looking for a meeting time: nothing will satisfy everyone :/ | 17:14 |
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ajo_ | cathy_, which TZ are you on, we lost you after that question | 17:15 |
cathy_ | hi ajo_ | 17:15 |
jlibosva | I think she's on west coast | 17:15 |
cathy_ | sorry about my bad connection | 17:15 |
davidsha | Ya, it's 9:00AM there I believe | 17:15 |
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cathy_ | yes | 17:15 |
ajo_ | ok, so another count for the stats | 17:15 |
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ajo_ | so, let's try to find several spots for biweekly, and then we vote on the ML, does that sound reasonable? | 17:16 |
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jlibosva | I have a suggestion to find two time slots - one west coast convenient, one far east convenient, and agree on which time it will be via email depending on what's needed to be discussed | 17:16 |
davidsha | +1 | 17:16 |
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* jlibosva feels like repeating others today :) | 17:16 | |
ajo_ | or we all cry, and stick to email. :) | 17:17 |
cathy_ | jlibosva: are you suggesting having two meetings, one for east coast and another fro west coast? | 17:17 |
davidsha | cathy_: I think he means every second meeting. | 17:17 |
jlibosva | cathy_: not regularly though, depending on topic - but might cause difficulties :) | 17:17 |
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igordcard | east of the world right? not coast? | 17:18 |
davidsha | igordcard: yup | 17:18 |
ajo_ | lol :) yes please | 17:18 |
ajo_ | world exist beyond the west and east coast :D | 17:18 |
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amuller | ajo_: blasphemy | 17:18 |
ajo_ | amuller, lol :) | 17:19 |
jlibosva | yeah, by far east I basically meant yamamoto :) | 17:19 |
cathy_ | It could cause difficulty, a better way is via email. | 17:19 |
cathy_ | jlibosva: :-) | 17:19 |
ajo_ | ok, so can we move on to another topic, and discuss that on the ML?, yes, the alternative (if not right slot found) is email. | 17:19 |
ajo_ | emails tend to be slow | 17:19 |
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ajo_ | cathy_, 20m, shall we move to another topic? | 17:20 |
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yamamoto | +1 move on | 17:20 |
davidsha | +1 | 17:21 |
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ajo_ | please note, that related to this (l2-feature-interoperability in OVS) I have put this into review: | 17:21 |
ajo_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314106/ | 17:21 |
ajo_ | it's still WIP, but feedback is greatly appreciated | 17:21 |
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ajo_ | specially from the SFC experts, to make sure that SFC could fit into it ( pcarver / cathy_ ) | 17:22 |
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ajo_ | I suspect cathy_ fell off again ;) | 17:22 |
ajo_ | ----- | 17:22 |
pcarver | ajo_: I'll take a look at it | 17:22 |
ajo_ | thanks pcarver | 17:22 |
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cathy__ | sorry don't know why my internet connection is so bad today. | 17:23 |
ajo_ | cathy_, I was asking folks to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314106/ (related effort to make lots of features compatible in OF) | 17:23 |
pcarver | I think the next step on flow classifier is to make a list of matching parameters beyond what SFC currently has | 17:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Ryan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: Compute IPAvailabilityRanges in memory during IP allocation https://review.openstack.org/292207 | 17:23 |
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igordcard | pcarver: +1 | 17:23 |
pcarver | One that's going to require some thought is "direction" | 17:24 |
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ajo_ | pcarver, that's not necessarily part of a flow classifier IMHO | 17:24 |
cathy__ | pcarver: we already have an initial comparison. | 17:24 |
ajo_ | it can be part of SG, but not part of a flow | 17:24 |
igordcard | ajo_: my thought too | 17:24 |
ajo_ | for example, in the context of QoS, we couldn't use a FC with direction | 17:24 |
ajo_ | since that's already given by the QoS rule itself | 17:24 |
cathy__ | ajo_: I agree with you. I think we'd better keep SG separate from FC | 17:24 |
cathy__ | how about we go through the topics listed in the wiki page since one of the topic is the comparison table | 17:25 |
ajo_ | SG-rule could be modeled as <sg-group, direction, flow-classifier> eventually... | 17:25 |
ajo_ | but that, if we wanted to modify how security groups are internally designed, to optimize how we code neutron | 17:26 |
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igordcard | the way I see, common classifier should focus on supporting the classifications themselves, not how you use them (e.g. taking into account directionality) | 17:26 |
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ajo_ | cathy__, link to wiki? | 17:26 |
ajo_ | igordcard: +1 | 17:26 |
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jlibosva | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/CommonFlowClassifier | 17:26 |
jlibosva | ajo_: ^^ | 17:26 |
cathy__ | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/CommonFlowClassifier | 17:26 |
ajo_ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/CommonFlowClassifier | 17:26 |
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ajo_ | thanks jlibosva , cathy__ | 17:27 |
cathy__ | #topic Develop this as a bug fix in Neutron or separate stadium project | 17:27 |
ajo_ | ok, we already agreed on that, | 17:27 |
cathy__ | I think we already have consensus here. we will develop this as a bug fix with a spec for approval, right? | 17:27 |
ajo_ | this is an RFE over neutron-core, | 17:27 |
ajo_ | we need to convince the drivers that this is the right thing | 17:27 |
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cathy__ | #agreed develop FC as a RFE over neutron-core | 17:28 |
ajo_ | cathy__, we have to follow the standard process -> RFE, and once approved we can create a spec (or we can create the spec, but no blueprint until it's approved, that's done by drivers) | 17:28 |
cathy__ | by drivers you mean neutron-driver team? | 17:29 |
ajo_ | correct | 17:29 |
yamamoto | who's going to file rfe? | 17:29 |
cathy__ | sure | 17:29 |
davidsha | cathy__: It will need to be updated to make it a common classifier but would this do? https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1527671 | 17:29 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1527671 in neutron "[RFE] traffic classification in Neutron QoS" [Wishlist,Incomplete] | 17:29 |
cathy__ | I will file the rfe | 17:29 |
ajo_ | davidsha, no, we should not reuse that one, | 17:29 |
yamamoto | cathy__: thank you | 17:29 |
ajo_ | davidsha, that one would be dependent on the new one | 17:29 |
cathy__ | davidsha: that is the second topic in the wiki | 17:29 |
cathy__ | #topic Use existing QoS bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1527671 or creating a new one | 17:29 |
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ajo_ | cathy__, nope please | 17:30 |
ajo_ | it should be a different one | 17:30 |
davidsha | ajo_: ack | 17:30 |
cathy__ | ajo_: +1 | 17:30 |
ajo_ | this one talks about implementing it for QoS (once classifiers are available) | 17:30 |
igordcard | +1 different RFE, since the existing is scoped to QoS | 17:30 |
cathy__ | ajo_: agree | 17:30 |
ajo_ | thanks :) | 17:30 |
cathy__ | so I will submit a new one | 17:30 |
ajo_ | thank you cathy__ | 17:30 |
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ajo_ | #action cathy__ submit a new RFE for traffic classifiers in neutron-core | 17:30 |
ajo_ | #undo | 17:31 |
openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Action object at 0xa7dfb50> | 17:31 |
ajo_ | #action cathy__ submit a new RFE for flow classifiers in neutron-core | 17:31 |
cathy__ | #action Cathy submit a new RFE for traffic classifiers in neutron-core | 17:31 |
ajo_ | I stick to old names, sorry :D | 17:31 |
cathy__ | ajo_: np | 17:31 |
ajo_ | lol, ok :) | 17:31 |
cathy__ | now next topic | 17:31 |
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cathy__ | #topic Discussion on the comparison table | 17:31 |
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ajo_ | it looks like sfc flow classifiers are a superset of security groups, with only the difference of direction | 17:32 |
cathy__ | the wiki page has the comparison table. But we have agreed to keep SG separate. So what we need to take a look at is the common FC column | 17:32 |
igordcard | CC? | 17:32 |
ajo_ | l7 parameters is fuzzy | 17:33 |
ajo_ | I would avoid that until that's clearly defined, | 17:33 |
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cathy__ | ajo_: we need to explicitly expand and define the L7 param | 17:33 |
ajo_ | one thing that is generally not accepted, is a dictionary with "any fields" | 17:33 |
igordcard | the CC column has some good examples of classification fields, I'm just a bit uneasy about the l7 params and the src/dst logical ports | 17:34 |
ajo_ | cathy__, then we will need to find a way to model that (beyond a dictionary) l7_parameters looks like a dictionary | 17:34 |
igordcard | the former because it's open ended, as ajo_ is saying, and the latter ones because they aren't really classifying traffic, but rather scoping where it can come from | 17:34 |
cathy__ | igordcard: l7param is a placeholder for defining in parameters such as subscriber ID, URL etc. | 17:34 |
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ajo_ | cathy__, those will need to be added later to the model, when they are defined | 17:35 |
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ajo_ | cathy__, you can try that fight, but it will not work. Setting "bags of things" as API parameters, or as part of a DB model, is generally a no-go from drivers | 17:36 |
cathy__ | igordcard: src/dst logical port means neutron port which allow the user to specify a traffic flow based on src neutron port and dst neutron port | 17:36 |
igordcard | can I have your thoughts on something like this for a CC classification: type and definition, e.g.: type: tcp; definition: {src_port: 80; dst_port: 80} | 17:36 |
ajo_ | igordcard, I don't see the issue on dst/src port | 17:36 |
ajo_ | on a given packet, dst & src port will always be present | 17:37 |
ajo_ | (udp / tcp) | 17:37 |
cathy__ | ajo_: do we want to define some L2 param explicitly now to show how other l7 param can be defined in the future? | 17:37 |
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cathy__ | I mean L7, not l2 | 17:37 |
igordcard | cathy__: ajo_ , to me src/dst/port looks a bit like the direction, something not really about the traffic itself and probably not relevant to many projects | 17:37 |
ajo_ | cathy__, we define lots of them, or am I missing something ? Inner vlan, Outer vlan, etc... | 17:37 |
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ajo_ | igordcard, you can just filter on "dst" port on your project | 17:38 |
sc68cal | why do inner and outer vlans need to be parameters | 17:38 |
cathy__ | ajo_: by L7, what we mean here is param in the app layer such as subscriber ID, URL, not vlan. | 17:38 |
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ajo_ | cathy__, sorry, you said "L2" above ^ :) that's why I was talking of vlan :) | 17:39 |
igordcard | the message I sent to cathy__ and ajo_ is about the neutron ports, we can discuss that one after | 17:39 |
sc68cal | like why are we baking QinQ directly into a REST API | 17:39 |
cathy__ | ajo_: sorry, I mean L7 | 17:39 |
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ajo_ | cathy__, you could provide some l7 example may be, yes | 17:39 |
ajo_ | cathy__, from the QoS point of view, those would probably be unsupported. | 17:39 |
igordcard | the other one is about having the ability to specify in the classifier, what protocol we want and then what fields we want to match for that protocol | 17:39 |
cathy__ | ajo_: OK, lee me modify the L7 part and update the wiki | 17:40 |
igordcard | instead of a fixed list of fields that we can match, some about IP, others about neutron ports, others about L7, etc | 17:40 |
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cathy__ | ajo_: it is OK not to support them since they are not mandatory | 17:40 |
ajo_ | cathy__, how does SFC plan to handle L7 ? | 17:41 |
ajo_ | can that be inspected by regular openflow rules? | 17:41 |
cathy__ | ajo_: good question. Let me think about how to reply | 17:41 |
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ajo_ | cathy__, but if that's still TBD, I'd say, let's go in baby steps, tackle what makes sense now, and expand later (as long as the long-term plan is clear) | 17:42 |
cathy__ | to classify flow up to L7 granularity level, I think we need a DPI device to look into the l7 fields | 17:42 |
cathy__ | ajo_: agree | 17:42 |
igordcard | ajo_: but keeping in mind that it's harder to change something like this later on | 17:42 |
cathy__ | in the spec we should touch the long term plan and future extension. | 17:43 |
ajo_ | igordcard, yes, that's true | 17:43 |
ajo_ | yes | 17:43 |
ajo_ | that should be clear and thought | 17:43 |
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yamamoto | dpi==deep packet inspection? | 17:43 |
ajo_ | yamamoto, that's what I suspected... :) | 17:44 |
cathy__ | igordcard: do you mean we should have a place holder for L7 otherwise it is hard to add it later on? | 17:44 |
cathy__ | yamamoto: yes | 17:44 |
ajo_ | igordcard, not necessarily a placeholder, but a plan. | 17:44 |
igordcard | cathy__: well, it would be nice to get the CC (api), or at least its basic foundation, right | 17:44 |
ajo_ | thought on how will we extend to L7, and how will features integrate to that | 17:45 |
ajo_ | since some of them may not support such a thing as L7 support | 17:45 |
igordcard | type: l7; def: {app-id: "ID"; subscriber-id: "SID"} or something like that? | 17:46 |
irenab | I guess it should be possible to query the backend what flow classifier can be supported | 17:46 |
ajo_ | irenab, or the backend can refuse to take a flow classifier if it's not being supported | 17:46 |
cathy__ | igordcard: +1 | 17:46 |
ajo_ | by the specific backend | 17:46 |
igordcard | or, type: h264; def: {resolution: "1080p"} | 17:46 |
irenab | ajo_: yes, depends what kind of user experinece this will provide | 17:47 |
ajo_ | irenab, but that would also mean that updating the FC should check with the backend, | 17:47 |
ajo_ | or... that updates should not be allowed | 17:47 |
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igordcard | and for well known non-l7 params, something like: type: ethernet; def: {src_addr: "00:00:00:00:00:00"; (and others if needed)} | 17:47 |
irenab | ajo_: the later is easier :-) | 17:47 |
ajo_ | irenab, we know that pain (QoS, yes...) | 17:47 |
ajo_ | but I guess that's the sort of detail we can talk about on the spec/rfe | 17:48 |
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ajo_ | sadly, I have to disconnect, please go on, cathy__ please make sure you #endmeeting once finished | 17:49 |
ajo_ | #chair yamamoto | 17:49 |
openstack | Current chairs: ajo_ cathy__ yamamoto | 17:49 |
ajo_ | #chair jlibosva | 17:49 |
openstack | Current chairs: ajo_ cathy__ jlibosva yamamoto | 17:49 |
ajo_ | for just in case | 17:49 |
ajo_ | so we don't leave a hanging meeting in the channel | 17:50 |
jlibosva | ack | 17:50 |
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cathy_ | hi | 17:51 |
jlibosva | cathy_: ajo_ had to disconnect | 17:51 |
yamamoto | i guess we've already mostly done | 17:51 |
igordcard | bye ajo_ if you're still around | 17:52 |
cathy_ | jlibosva: yamamoto could you let me know what I missed due to disconnection? | 17:52 |
yamamoto | cathy_: which is the last message you saw? | 17:52 |
igordcard | cathy_: you can always look back at the meeting, during the meeting, here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/network_common_flow_classifier/2016/network_common_flow_classifier.2016-05-17-17.02.log.txt | 17:52 |
jlibosva | cathy_: basically that we can discuss details in the rfe | 17:53 |
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cathy_ | Ok, sounds good. | 17:54 |
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cathy_ | Thanks everyone. Let's communicate via emails if needed. I will work on the bug and the spec. | 17:55 |
cathy_ | that might take some time :-) | 17:55 |
cathy_ | I will end the meeting now | 17:55 |
davidsha | Thanks | 17:55 |
jlibosva | thanks! | 17:55 |
yamamoto | thank you | 17:55 |
jlibosva | bye | 17:55 |
igordcard | cathy_: yes we can then discuss more details and what path to take in the final classification structure | 17:55 |
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igordcard | bye bye | 17:55 |
s3wong | bye | 17:56 |
davidsha | good morning and good night where appropriate! | 17:56 |
s3wong | thanks | 17:56 |
irenab | bye | 17:56 |
cathy_ | igordcard: sure. I like your suggestion on the L7 param | 17:56 |
cathy_ | #endmeeting | 17:56 |
jlibosva | #endmeeting | 17:56 |
openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 17 17:56:41 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:56 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/network_common_flow_classifier/2016/network_common_flow_classifier.2016-05-17-17.02.html | 17:56 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/network_common_flow_classifier/2016/network_common_flow_classifier.2016-05-17-17.02.txt | 17:56 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/network_common_flow_classifier/2016/network_common_flow_classifier.2016-05-17-17.02.log.html | 17:56 |
s3wong | major delay... | 17:56 |
cathy_ | jlibosva: thanks! | 17:56 |
jlibosva | cathy_: cathy__ was chair (two underscores) :) | 17:56 |
cathy_ | :0( | 17:57 |
s3wong | dynamically changing nick | 17:57 |
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igordcard | I like how our friend openstackgerrit participated in the meeting :p | 17:58 |
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apuimedo | but maybe it acquired my distaste for the rootwrap solution | 18:05 |
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kfox1111 | DVR question. | 20:23 |
kfox1111 | how long should it take for a floating ip to attach/detach. | 20:23 |
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kfox1111 | We've seen it take between 30 seconds and 2 minutes at times. | 20:23 |
kfox1111 | Do we have something misconfigured, have we hit a bug, or is this expeted behavior? | 20:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Nate Johnston proposed openstack/neutron-specs: [WIP] L3 Agent Extensions Spec https://review.openstack.org/315745 | 20:29 |
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openstackgerrit | Brian Haley proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Subnet service types https://review.openstack.org/300207 | 20:58 |
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sc68cal | kfox1111: size of your cluster? # of networks, subnets, ports? | 20:59 |
sc68cal | neutron version? | 20:59 |
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kfox1111 | we're trying to install it on 100 nodes, but right now, only have 30 up and running right now. | 21:03 |
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kfox1111 | 2 networks, 2 subnets and 2 ports. | 21:03 |
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kfox1111 | very tiny at the moment. | 21:03 |
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kfox1111 | it looks like most of the time, with just a single vm up, its taking about 10 seconds to attach the floating ip. | 21:03 |
kfox1111 | and it seems to be the rootwrap commands, each running about 1 a second for about 10-12 seconds. | 21:04 |
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kfox1111 | detach seems to take about 10 seconds before the node even starts to detach, and then it also runs for about 10-12 seconds in rootwrap. | 21:04 |
kfox1111 | rootwrap looks to be in daemon mode. | 21:04 |
kfox1111 | and its a Mitaka cloud. | 21:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Henry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron: Allow for excepted creations in contract migrations https://review.openstack.org/317733 | 21:12 |
HenryG | mlavalle: ^^ | 21:12 |
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mlavalle | HenryG: thanks! I get it. I will use it in the next revision of my patchset | 21:15 |
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mlavalle | HenryG: the example is very useful. Thanks | 21:19 |
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kevinbenton | kfox1111: each rootwrap command is taking 10-12 seconds? | 22:10 |
kevinbenton | kfox1111: or 1 second per command and there are 10-12 commands? | 22:10 |
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Swami_ | kevinbenton: can you take a look at this /stable/mitaka patch. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313050/ | 22:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Add provisioning blocks to status ACTIVE transition https://review.openstack.org/181674 | 22:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: How to support trunk ports with Open vSwitch Agent https://review.openstack.org/273954 | 22:55 |
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kfox1111 | kevinbenton: each rootwrap command is taking about 1 second, the aggregate of them all for the one operation is 10-12 seconds. | 23:41 |
kfox1111 | another datapoint. | 23:41 |
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kfox1111 | if I bring in a fresh compute node, then launch a vm, | 23:41 |
kfox1111 | then attach a floating ip to it, it took about 63 seconds for it to become pingable. | 23:42 |
kevinbenton | kfox1111: those rootwrap calls sound way too slow | 23:42 |
kfox1111 | it started spewing logs pretty much as soon as I attached the fip, but it was issueing a lot of commands which eventually took it the 63 seconds. again, about a second per call. | 23:43 |
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kfox1111 | Its in daemon mode, so I wouldn't think it should be that slow? | 23:43 |
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kevinbenton | kfox1111: yeah, something must be screwing up the daemon or the communication with it | 23:44 |
kevinbenton | kfox1111: for example, check out this string of rootwrap calls | 23:44 |
kevinbenton | kfox1111: (warning large file) http://logs.openstack.org/26/317326/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/3711ad7/logs/screen-q-l3.txt.gz#_2016-05-17_20_13_59_140 | 23:45 |
kevinbenton | kfox1111: many in the span of a couple hundred milliseconds | 23:45 |
kfox1111 | yeah, that's way better. | 23:45 |
kfox1111 | I'm seeing: | 23:45 |
kfox1111 | http://pastebin.com/dsqcs6Zp | 23:46 |
kevinbenton | kfox1111: brutal | 23:47 |
kfox1111 | does it try and do any dns lookups or something? | 23:48 |
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kfox1111 | or the stuff that its running? | 23:48 |
kevinbenton | kfox1111: no, it shouldn't | 23:50 |
kevinbenton | kfox1111: do you see up somewhere in your logs "Spawned new rootwrap daemon process"? | 23:50 |
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kevinbenton | kfox1111: oh nevermind, it says right in parens rootwrap daemon | 23:51 |
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kevinbenton | kfox1111: what's the CPU usage of your rootwrap daemon during this time? | 23:52 |
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kfox1111 | I straced it, and it is executing under the prespawned rootwrap. | 23:52 |
kfox1111 | let me check. | 23:53 |
kevinbenton | kfox1111: i wonder if there is a bad regexp filter or something choking it... | 23:53 |
kfox1111 | sub percent. 0.7 the one time it showed up on top. | 23:55 |
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kevinbenton | kfox1111: does rootwrap daemon still use sudo to execute the command? | 23:56 |
kevinbenton | kfox1111: maybe you have a bad hostname resolve for sudo calls | 23:56 |
kfox1111 | neutron didnt, but I didn't look too closely to what the rootwrap daemon was forking. let me check... | 23:57 |
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kevinbenton | the docs i'm reading don't seem to indicate that it does | 23:58 |
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kfox1111 | stracing now... | 23:59 |
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