Friday, 2016-05-06

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Preserve backward compatibility with OVS hybrid plugging  https://review.openstack.org/31188100:04
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Classes lack metaclass decoration  https://review.openstack.org/31193000:31
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openstackgerritDustin Lundquist proposed openstack/neutron: Revise ICMPV6_ALLOWED_TYPES  https://review.openstack.org/31095400:42
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openstackgerritJohn Kasperski proposed openstack/neutron: Expose plugin and plugin_context to mech_driver  https://review.openstack.org/31319701:19
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Revert "Remove threading before process forking"  https://review.openstack.org/31315901:25
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Use correct session in  update_allocation_pools  https://review.openstack.org/30929701:29
openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Use correct session in  update_allocation_pools  https://review.openstack.org/30929701:30
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dasmkevinbenton: could you look at my question?: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309297/501:37
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openstackgerritLIU Yulong proposed openstack/neutron: Correct floating IP updating issues  https://review.openstack.org/31284901:53
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: How to support trunk ports with openvswitch  https://review.openstack.org/27395401:53
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: How to support trunk ports with openvswitch  https://review.openstack.org/27395402:06
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Add exponential back-off RPC client  https://review.openstack.org/28059502:37
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: OVS: Add support for IPv6 addresses as tunnel endpoints  https://review.openstack.org/25733502:47
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sarunhi @dougwig02:54
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openstackgerrityaowei proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Fix typo in rbac-networks  https://review.openstack.org/31321603:53
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kevinbentondasm: replied04:29
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dasmkevinbenton: thx. so, basically it's to ensure, that it won't throw an error?04:39
kevinbentondasm: yep04:39
dasmkevinbenton: gotcha. thanks for explanation04:39
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namnhzzzeek: thanks for reply my comment at your Gist. I have had a comment at your Gist. Could you please review it.04:53
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sharath__Help04:55
sharath__setup : 1. odlcontroller , 1 openstack with 2 compute nodes,While process of cold migration,compute node -1 lost the connection from opendaylight controller, and from compute node 2 it will send  add notification with port down and later  modify with port up will send, when connection established from odl controller with compute node 1, again compute 1 will send delete even to remove flows and groups in ovs ?04:55
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Use correct session in  update_allocation_pools  https://review.openstack.org/30929704:56
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Partial revert "DVR: Fix issue of SNAT rule for DVR with floating ip"  https://review.openstack.org/30134804:56
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vikram_armax: ping05:25
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vikram_kevinbenton: ping05:26
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kevinbentonvikram_: hey05:27
kevinbentonvikram_: what's up? i'm only around for a few more minutes05:27
vikram_kevinbenton: Need your help for a patch05:28
vikram_kevinbenton: Can you help reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310749/05:28
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sharath__port up and port down05:34
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kevinbentonvikram_: looks good05:35
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openstackgerritSreekumar S proposed openstack/neutron: loadimpact perf improvement with batch vsctl/native commands  https://review.openstack.org/28658006:38
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openstackgerritvikram.choudhary proposed openstack/neutron: Trivial Fixes for 'sub_project.rst' devref document  https://review.openstack.org/31284707:53
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openstackgerritZhongcheng Lao proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Fixed --insecure not taking effect when specified  https://review.openstack.org/27340808:03
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Testing latest u-c  https://review.openstack.org/30334608:10
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openstackgerritHong Hui Xiao proposed openstack/neutron: Move address scope specific code out of iptables_manager  https://review.openstack.org/28882808:16
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pjm6Hi there08:36
pjm6When I make a bridge (with eth0) I lost VM Connectivity08:36
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pjm6this happens because the interface mac address (br0) is different from mac address (eht0) ?08:37
pjm6because the compute node had a rule in IP Tables that filter forwarding traffic of mac address08:37
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openstackgerritDmitriy Ukhlov proposed openstack/neutron: Revert "Revert "Remove threading before process forking""  https://review.openstack.org/31327708:41
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openstackgerritvikram.choudhary proposed openstack/neutron: Trivial Fixes for 'sub_project.rst' devref document  https://review.openstack.org/31284708:54
openstackgerritPavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Remove nested transaction from ipam driver  https://review.openstack.org/30732908:55
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openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: TESTINGONLY: Log ovsdb commands  https://review.openstack.org/30460009:10
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openstackgerritbin proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP]move dns related data field to dnsports  https://review.openstack.org/31329109:21
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openstackgerritSaverio Proto proposed openstack/neutron: Check if namespace exists before getting devices  https://review.openstack.org/30905009:54
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itxakaHello everybody! Got a simple question regarding translation support of api rest error messages on neutron10:29
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itxakaAfter seeing this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/39590/ I assume that any query to the rest api with a proper Accept-Language header should return a neutron error in the appropriate language10:30
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itxakabut it doesnt seem to work, Im seeing the error message from horizon always in english, no matter what language is selected on horizon and sent on the headers10:30
itxakaI checked and the translations are up to date so it should probably return it on the selected language10:31
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itxakabut its a bit confusing as the patches to make it work are in since a long time, but the BP was marked as obsolete (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/user-locale-api) so Im not sure if this feature is in or not10:32
itxakathis is all tested on liberty10:32
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openstackgerritSaverio Proto proposed openstack/neutron: Check if namespace exists before getting devices  https://review.openstack.org/30905010:33
itxakaso it would be great if someone with knowledge of this could shed some ligth, maybe we need to change something on the horizon side to make it work10:33
itxakathanks!10:33
openstackgerritSaverio Proto proposed openstack/neutron: Check if namespace exists before getting devices  https://review.openstack.org/30905010:33
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openstackgerritRyan Moats proposed openstack/neutron: DNM! Commit to test for regressions in proposed devstack change  https://review.openstack.org/31351711:44
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slaweqajo: hello12:15
slaweqI have question about https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/157779112:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1577791 in neutron "[RFE] Openflow pipeline modeling and API for OVS extensions" [Wishlist,New]12:16
slaweqmay I ask You about it?12:16
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slaweqdid You consider that user will be able to specify order of those flows by specify order of extensions (drivers) in config file?12:17
slaweqlike it is done (or was at least) for mechanism drivers in ml212:18
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jlibosvaSam-I-Am: hi12:43
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regXboiI think Sam-I-Am is in transit - give him a bit12:46
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openstackgerritHynek Mlnarik proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Diagnostics of Neutron components  https://review.openstack.org/30897313:08
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diltrammorning13:44
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anilvenkatacarl_baldwin, Carl, can u please approve PD change again https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241227/ ?13:50
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Zuul is currently recovering from a large number of changes, it will take a few hours until your job is processed. Please have patience and enjoy a great weekend!14:16
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openstackgerritSreekumar S proposed openstack/neutron: loadimpact perf improvement with batch vsctl/native commands  https://review.openstack.org/28658014:21
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zzzeekkevinbenton: https://gist.github.com/zzzeek/3cf63d88dbc5246dcfafe9828ab92e3e14:31
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zzzeekHenryG: ^^^14:32
diltramakamyshnikova: ping14:32
akamyshnikovadiltram, hi14:33
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diltramakamyshnikova: morning, is there any update about that test which you made on L3HA?14:33
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akamyshnikovadiltram, what kind of update and about what test?14:34
diltramakamyshnikova: currently I'm working on that feature and I was thinking about helping you with fixing that issues, but what you're planning to do with this results?14:34
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diltramakamyshnikova: that e-mail which you send before summit about with test results of L314:35
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akamyshnikovadiltram, the main thing that needs to be done is have one more run of tests, as some important fixes came in and was not tested14:36
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-specs: Fix typo in rbac-networks  https://review.openstack.org/31321614:37
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Zuul has been restarted. As a results, we only preserved patches in the gate queue. Be sure to recheck your patches in gerrit if needed.14:46
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HenryGzzzeek: thanks14:49
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Sam-I-Amjlibosva: hello15:11
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jlibosvaSam-I-Am: hi, I wanted to talk to you about docs for ovs-fw but I need to run soon. I'll ping you again on Monday :)15:13
Sam-I-Amjlibosva: ok, ill be here :)15:13
jlibosvaack15:13
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openstackgerritInessa Vasilevskaya proposed openstack/neutron: functional: fix OVSFW failure with native OVSDB api  https://review.openstack.org/31269715:28
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openstackgerritAradhana Singh proposed openstack/neutron: Refactoring config options for quota  https://review.openstack.org/30379115:44
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lindycoderHello, this has been stale for a month, i know it's almost nothing but how can i make it forward ?  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/303089/15:45
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regXboipcm_: are you still the right contact person for vpnaas bugs?15:50
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pcm_regXboi: no. I still try to do reviews when I get time, but that is pretty rare lately.15:51
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regXboiok... I'm going to push a patch set to the bugs docs naming a new name15:52
regXboipcm_: ^^^^ and thanks15:52
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pcm_regXboi: If I get time, I'll try to review.15:53
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regXboipcm_: ack - if you have a few ... take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1579080 - I'm not even sure that is something vpnaas set out to solve?!?!15:55
openstackLaunchpad bug 1579080 in neutron "VPNaaS crash during VPN Connection creation" [Undecided,New]15:55
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pcm_regXboi: Will try to look at it later today.15:58
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regXboipcm_: ack and feel free to +1 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313623/ ...15:58
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pcm_Done. looks like that slipped through the cracks, as I stepped down at the previous release.16:01
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regXboipcm_: no worries - I've been cleaning up various things there :)16:01
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openstackgerritRyan Moats proposed openstack/neutron: Changing VPNaaS bug contact name  https://review.openstack.org/31362316:08
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regXboidougwig: (when you have time) ^^^^^16:09
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openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Associate subnets to segments through subnet API  https://review.openstack.org/28877416:23
openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Enable IPAM drivers to allocate from more than one subnet  https://review.openstack.org/30488616:23
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regXboiarmax: did you see https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1577019 ?16:41
openstackLaunchpad bug 1577019 in neutron "Neutron tests make BasicOperationsImagesTest tempest tests fail" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Daniel Mellado (daniel-mellado)16:41
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armaxI do now16:41
regXboiI hadn't marked a priority on it - was looking for amuller and ZZelle to get their opinions on it16:42
regXboiI'm inclined to seriously bump it up16:42
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openstackgerritJohn Kasperski proposed openstack/neutron: Expose plugin and plugin_context to mech_driver  https://review.openstack.org/31319716:46
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* armax looks16:50
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armaxregXboi: I think we have a fix for it already16:50
armaxregXboi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310094/16:50
regXboiarmax: yeah, I thought I remembered that16:51
armaxregXboi: might it be the same?16:51
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regXboilet me look if so, I'll mark duplicate16:51
regXboiyeah, this will fix this bug16:52
regXboiI'll mark it as a dupicate16:52
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regXboirather than add line to the commit message16:52
regXboiand done16:53
regXboithanks for the time16:53
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Do not rewrite original exception for IPAM  https://review.openstack.org/30651917:46
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mlavalleHenryG: ping17:47
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HenryGmlavalle: pong17:52
mlavalleHenryG: I have a test failing to create a table with mysql: http://paste.openstack.org/show/496376/17:52
mlavalleHenryG: this is the alembic script: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285548/6/neutron/db/migration/alembic_migrations/versions/newton/expand/8fd3918ef6f4_add_segment_host_mapping.py17:53
mlavalleHenryG: what am I doing wrong?17:53
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HenryGmlavalle: the networksegments table was renamed in a contract migration, newton/contract/89ab9a816d70_rename_ml2_network_segments.py17:55
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HenryGmlavalle: So your migration, which depends on that, needs to also be a contract migration17:56
mlavalleHenryG: duh, thanks!17:56
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mlavalleHenryG: have a nice weekend!17:58
HenryGmlavalle: thanks, you too!17:59
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regXboiarmax: ping on your pipeline comment on 27395118:02
armaxregXboi: pong18:02
armaxregXboi: I am all ears18:02
regXboiI understand your concern about having osprofiler in the default pipeline, but I'm not sure how to have it added to the pipeline for a specific tempest job18:03
armaxregXboi: you want to test this in the gate right?18:03
regXboiarmax: eventually, yes :)18:03
armaxI wonder if a fullstack test might be come to the rescue for now18:03
armaxregXboi: I am open to considering it default on the pipeline, though18:04
armaxregXboi: I just raised a point for discussion18:04
regXboiI don't know - I've heard complaints that having it in the pipeline causes stack issues even if it is turned off18:04
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regXboiand that makes me *not* want it in the default pipeline18:04
regXboibut then how to test it18:04
armaxregXboi: where did you hear complaints and what other projects do?18:04
armaxregXboi: but say for a sec that we don’t add it, we can test it in the api job18:05
armaxregXboi: as another alternative18:05
armaxas we have the hook to fill the pipeline if we need to18:05
regXboiarmax: I don't remember who it was, but the anecdotal complaint was that if a stack trace is dumped, there are a number of osprofiler stack frames that appear while it works out that it shouldn't be there18:06
regXboiok... if we have the hook, then I'll take it out for now18:06
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armaxregXboi: let me show you?18:06
regXboiarmax: please :)18:06
regXboiI'm working on a rebase and other comments right now anyway ...18:06
armaxregXboi: follow the pecan example18:06
armaxregXboi: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/tests/contrib/hooks/pecan18:06
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armaxregXboi: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/tests/contrib/gate_hook.sh#L6118:07
armaxregXboi: that’ll do I think18:07
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armaxregXboi: btw I wanted to talk to you about something ovs-y18:07
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regXboiarmax: ask away .... blank stares are still free :)18:08
armaxregXboi: nah, I consider you the ovs-goto guy from here on out :)18:08
regXboiheh ... seriously, go ahead...18:09
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armaxregXboi: this is something related to the vlan-aware-vms effort that the team is working on18:09
armaxregXboi: not sure how much familiar you are with it18:09
regXboiunfortunately, I haven't been paying attention to it18:09
armaxregXboi: good, ignorance is bliss18:09
regXboiso I might have to take some time to get up to speed to answer your question18:09
armaxregXboi: the question is actually tangential to this effort18:10
regXboiok18:10
armaxand it relates to the ability for OVS to support IEEE 802.1ad18:10
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armaxregXboi: I have a faint recollection of that being discussed in the ovs forum but never went anywhere18:11
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armaxregXboi: since you’re plugged way more than me I wonder if you’ve heard of it, stumbled upon it or anything of that sort18:11
regXboihoo boy - let me take the weekend and do some digging18:11
regXboiit doesn't ring any immediate bells, but there are all sorts of corners of the code that I haven't explored yet18:11
armaxregXboi: I mean you no harm :)18:11
armaxregXboi: I was simply curious to know whether you had any chance to bump into it18:12
tidwellr_armax regXboi: I saw some patches proposed, not sure what happened to them18:12
regXboinot yet, but like I said, I can go look - it can't hurt to dig into that corner of things18:12
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regXboitidwellr_: that was part of what I was going to go chase18:13
tidwellr_armax: just a casual observer btw :)18:13
armaxtidwellr_: that’s my recollection too18:13
armaxregXboi: if you could, then we can exchange notes18:13
armaxregXboi: it’d be like trading figurines18:13
regXboiheh18:14
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regXboiI've got some AAA baseball cards around here somewhere18:14
tidwellr_regXboi: if I remember right, there were some concerns about backward compatibility with earlier versions of OpenFlow, then I lost track of the patches18:14
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armaxregXboi: cool, it sounds we’ll have fun18:15
armaxtidwellr_: not sure about the OpenFlow overlap, but getting to the bottom of it might be worthwhile18:15
tidwellr_armax: yes it would, I saw this in passing a LONG time ago18:16
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regXboiarmax: question - can the DocImpact comment span to a second line?18:20
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armaxregXboi: of course it can18:20
regXboiany special formatting on the subsequent line (i.e. initial spaces)18:21
regXboiI don't need it this time, but I thought I'd ask18:21
openstackgerritRyan Moats proposed openstack/neutron: Add OSprofiler support  https://review.openstack.org/27395118:22
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openstackgerritRyan Moats proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add profiling support to neutronclient  https://review.openstack.org/28150818:23
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openstackgerritRyan Moats proposed openstack/neutron: Add OSprofiler support  https://review.openstack.org/27395118:36
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regXboiarmax, tidwellr_: there were some patches back around the turn of the year, but changes were requested and there's never been any followup18:44
regXboiso 802.1ad is still not in the code at this time18:44
armaxregXboi: so nothing earth shattering by the sounds of it?18:44
regXboiarmax: nope ...18:44
mriedemshould i be able to list more than one subnet by id on the command line?18:45
tidwellr_regXboi: I was just looking and saw some activity as recently as March, is that what you saw?18:45
regXboitidwellr_: I saw February as the most recent patch set, with a pointer back to the 11/2015 patch set and nothing sense then18:46
armaxmriedem: what do you mean?18:46
mriedeme.g.  neutron subnet-list -- --id 2ac179bb-ae71-4137-907d-6fac5758e169,0ada4808-e650-4819-956f-a3704f59e2ab18:46
armaxmriedem: the id being the network uid?18:46
armaxmriedem: oh18:46
mriedemthe subnet id18:46
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armaxmriedem: I am not sure that would work, let me check18:46
tidwellr_regXboi: either way, nothing seems to have merged :)18:46
regXboitidwellr_: *THAT* is the tl;dr18:47
mriedemarmax: i'm not seeing it work, was just wondering if it should18:47
mriedemi've been trying to debug the nova neutron v2 api for a bug we have, so recreating the queries nova is doing18:47
armaxmriedem: perhaps the syntax is slightly different, I wouldn’t be surprised if it didn’t work though :)18:48
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haleybmriedem: try a space between instead of the comma, at least that worked for me - neutron subnet-list -- --id foo bar18:52
armaxregXboi: so say that someone picked up the work from where it was left off, we should be able to see some progress?18:52
mriedemhaleyb: yup that's it, thanks18:54
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regXboiarmax: I'd say they should publically reach out to the previous authors to see if they still have interest and if not, then blend the various commits together and ensure the previous authors are cited in the commit message and then progress should be possible...18:55
armaxregXboi: yeah, makes sense18:56
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regXboipretty much same as what somebody would do here :)18:56
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kevinbenton$*&^%(#&^%19:05
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armaxkevinbenton: do you mean to express disagreement?19:06
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armaxmriedem, haleyb: spacing works for me19:09
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armaxah, sorry just noticed you got this resolved19:09
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haleybarmax: we're like the borg19:10
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openstackgerritDmitriy Ukhlov proposed openstack/neutron: Revert "Revert "Remove threading before process forking""  https://review.openstack.org/31327719:16
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jasondcan anybody shed some light on what's happening to the Heat gate?  looks like a possible neutron bug:  testtools.matchers._impl.MismatchError: 'DOWN' != u'ACTIVE': FloatingIP: <"FloatingIP" addr="172.24.5.57" id="e697b957-68dd-44df-bd79-30e47b7098fc"> is at status: ACTIVE. failed  to reach status: DOWN20:25
jasondhttp://logs.openstack.org/51/308051/4/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-heat/7c9f7e6/console.html20:26
jasondit's been going on all week20:26
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kevinbentonjasond: looking20:30
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jasondkevinbenton: thanks.  i found this https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-plumgrid/+bug/147111520:32
openstackLaunchpad bug 1471115 in networking-plumgrid "Change status of floatingip upon association and disassociation" [High,Fix committed] - Assigned to Muawia Khan (muawia)20:32
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kevinbentonjasond: that sounds like a plumgrid issue, so it shouldn't be the cause of this20:33
jasondkevinbenton: oh ok20:33
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kevinbentonjasond: is it consistently failing?20:34
kevinbentonjasond: or does it seem to be racey?20:34
jasondkevinbenton: it's intermittent20:34
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Correct the interval between two reports  https://review.openstack.org/30634820:46
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kevinbentonjasond: i found a suspect patch21:02
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kevinbentonjasond: did it just start yesterday?21:02
kevinbentonwell ~35 hours ago now?21:02
jasondkevinbenton: no, it's been happening all week21:03
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kevinbentonjasond: ack21:06
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jasondkevinbenton: :/ we've been scratching our heads as well21:07
kevinbentonjasond: well i see some namespace errors on the l3 agent21:07
kevinbentonjasond: that i suspect are ultimately causing the issue21:07
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jasondkevinbenton: oh good21:08
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kevinbentonjasond: can you file a bug against neutron with that failure message and a link to the logs?21:10
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Testing latest u-c  https://review.openstack.org/30334621:10
jasondkevinbenton: will do21:11
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openstackgerritBrian Haley proposed openstack/neutron: DVR: Ensure fpr and rfp devices are configured correctly  https://review.openstack.org/30234021:11
kevinbentonjasond: thanks to a kernel developer's poor spelling, we have an easy phrase to search for in logstash :)21:12
kevinbenton"seting the network namespace"21:13
dlundquistIs there a reference devstack local.conf for using the OVS Firewall driver?21:13
jasondkevinbenton: lol21:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Avoid eventlet monkey patching for the tempest plugin  https://review.openstack.org/31009421:16
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haleybkevinbenton: i have been seeing the "qrouter-$$ namespace doesn't exist" errors more frequently this week, but haven't tracked it down.  the functional job is around a 30% failure overall as well21:17
haleybdon't know if that's related to the problem jason is seeing21:17
jasondkevinbenton: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/157923521:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1579235 in neutron "FloatingIP is at status: ACTIVE. failed to reach status: DOWN" [Undecided,New]21:18
kevinbentonhaleyb: it might be. i think generally something is screwing up the l3 agent21:18
kevinbentonhaleyb: i think jasond is just getting a side effect of the floating IP status not getting updated because of it21:18
kevinbentonhaleyb: something is killing the namespace i think21:19
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haleybkevinbenton: hooligans.  I started https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313172/ since i've seen a new error string that review added, trying a manual merge of it now21:20
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openstackgerritBrian Haley proposed openstack/neutron: Revert "Avoid calling _get_subnet(s) multiple times in ipam driver"  https://review.openstack.org/31317221:28
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Revise ICMPV6_ALLOWED_TYPES  https://review.openstack.org/31095421:34
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kevinbentonjasond: still there?21:50
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haleybkevinbenton: smoking gun?21:55
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kevinbentonhaleyb: yeah, their job is running vpnaas agent and its clobbering stuff21:55
kevinbentontiming coincides with this as well https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/commit/602a455746461167e211cf19a39349e32df9e08a21:56
kevinbentonhaleyb: ^^21:57
kevinbentonhaleyb: so now i'm just trying to figure out why their job runs the agent21:57
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kevinbentonarmax: ping, i need some heeeeelp21:57
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armaxkevinbenton: what up21:57
kevinbentonarmax: so it looks like heat's grenade job is running the vpn agent for some reaosn21:58
kevinbentonarmax: where do i go to see their gate config for that job21:58
armaxopenstack-infra/project-config21:58
armaxmy good this stuff is like weeds21:58
armaxit grows indiscriminately21:59
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Move address scope specific code out of iptables_manager  https://review.openstack.org/28882821:59
kevinbentonarmax: i don't know what i'm looking at22:00
kevinbentonarmax: i just see the entry that says it should run in check and the gate22:00
kevinbentonarmax: in layout.yaml22:00
armaxcan you give me a pointer?22:01
kevinbentonarmax: gate-grenade-dsvm-heat22:01
kevinbentonarmax: i want to know what their devstack setup is for that22:01
* armax looks22:02
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: How to support trunk ports with openvswitch  https://review.openstack.org/27395422:02
armaxkevinbenton: look under jenkins/jobs/heat.yaml22:03
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kevinbentonarmax: ah, that explains why grep didn't work22:04
kevinbentonarmax: thanks22:04
armaxkevinbenton: sure thing22:04
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kevinbentonarmax: so now the next question22:05
kevinbentonarmax: should we have them stop using vpnaas?22:05
armaxkevinbenton: of couse they should22:05
armaxunkless they are doing something vpn-y22:06
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openstackgerritHenry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Remove ICMPV6_ALLOWED_TYPES  https://review.openstack.org/31090922:10
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openstackgerritHenry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Remove ICMPV6_ALLOWED_TYPES  https://review.openstack.org/31090922:14
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openstackgerritInessa Vasilevskaya proposed openstack/neutron: functional: fix OVSFW failure with native OVSDB api  https://review.openstack.org/31269722:35
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openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Associate subnets to segments through subnet API  https://review.openstack.org/28877422:42
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carl_baldwinblogan: kevinbenton: ^  I think the next patch for routed networks is ready22:45
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kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: ack22:48
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openstackgerritenikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: Check for existence of snat port before deleting it  https://review.openstack.org/31378622:54
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blogancarl_baldwin: okay, ill prob check it out tongiht, thanks22:54
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openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Enable IPAM drivers to allocate from more than one subnet  https://review.openstack.org/30488623:01
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Sam-I-Amtidwellr_: moo?23:06
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tidwellr_Sam-I-Am: moo23:09
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Sam-I-Amtidwellr_: got a min for some bgp speaker q's ?23:11
tidwellr_sure23:12
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Sam-I-Amhow does using ibgp (same AS) work without a) a mesh b) an igp23:12
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tidwellr_when using ibgp, you need a mesh23:14
openstackgerritDustin Lundquist proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Add IPv6_LLA_PREFIX constant  https://review.openstack.org/31379323:14
openstackgerritDustin Lundquist proposed openstack/neutron: Use IPv[46]_BITS instead of IPV[46]_MAX_PREFIXLEN  https://review.openstack.org/31379423:14
tidwellr_I don't believe ibgp will redistribute into an igp23:14
Sam-I-Amyeah. so, if using the same AS number, the bgp speaker would need to speak to all bgp peers in that AS23:15
tidwellr_right23:15
Sam-I-Amthe purpose of the igp would be to advertise loopbacks, so ibgp peers can use them rather than point-to-point links23:15
Sam-I-Ammakes for cleaner peering23:16
Sam-I-Amamong other things23:16
tidwellr_the igp could also be used so peering is only happening with other AS's23:16
tidwellr_because BGP peering does not scale nicely, your AS may be rather large so OSPF might  be a better option inside your AS23:17
Sam-I-Amyeah23:18
Sam-I-Amwithout loopback advertisement, ibgp meshes quickly become a mess23:18
Sam-I-Amwhats the most common use case for bgp dr... ebgp or ibgp?23:18
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Sam-I-Amand if its ebgp, would it typically use private AS?23:18
openstackgerritDustin Lundquist proposed openstack/neutron: Use ICMPV6_TYPE_* constants from neutron-lib  https://review.openstack.org/31052223:18
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tidwellr_it can be used either way23:18
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tidwellr_one trick you can do is use a private ASN for your cloud, peer that with you public AS, then it effectively hides behind your public AS23:19
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Sam-I-Amyeah23:20
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Sam-I-Amwhich avoids the ibgp mesh problem, as long as you dont have too many private AS23:20
tidwellr_the solution is flexible and should support any operator in their choice23:20
Sam-I-Amso, in the case of ibgp, does it make sense to support an igp like ospf or is-is in a future release?23:20
Sam-I-Amjust seems like ibgp wont work well here23:21
Sam-I-Amthen the bgp speaker could participate in the mesh23:21
tidwellr_after my talk in Austin I heard from every operator that BGP is what the right solution23:21
tidwellr_I expected someone to ask for an IGP, but nobody did23:22
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Sam-I-Amcurious what those guys are doing. when i worked at an isp, we ran ospf internally because by itself bgp was pretty useless as an igp23:22
Sam-I-Ambut maybe bgp in a datacenter is different?23:22
tidwellr_it sounds like people are happy to redistribute into OSPF or form a *small* mesh23:23
Sam-I-Amjust trying to make sure we provide the correct info about using bgp dr in igp mode. hopefully the operator understands the differences and how to make it work, but sometimes it helps to give a bit more info.23:23
Sam-I-Ambgp into ospf sounds scary :)23:23
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tidwellr_I would hope operators understand these things, we've given them lots of rope23:24
Sam-I-Ambgp comes with reels of it23:24
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Sam-I-Amso, i think the answer here is just making a note to think long and hard about using bgp dr as ebgp or ibgp23:25
Sam-I-Amand assume the operator has a clue23:25
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tidwellr_operators are high on it though because it's an interface that their network teams are comfortable with23:26
Sam-I-Ammaybe also noting that it currently does not support an igp like ospf or is-is23:26
Sam-I-Amjust so there's no misunderstanding there23:26
Sam-I-Amas an isp guy, i assume all the protocols are there23:26
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tidwellr_right, this is a bgp-only solution (I hope that's clear)23:27
tidwellr_some "use at your own risk" disclaimers are good, we just don't want to scare anyone away :)23:28
Sam-I-Amtrue23:29
Sam-I-Amthis is some of the "docs fun" part... making sure the documentation meets the expectations of the audience.23:29
Sam-I-Amwith the advance stuff, we generally keep the bar pretty high, but as an old isp guy, i was rather curious about the ibgp vs ebgp bits.23:29
tidwellr_one of the things I pointed out in the docs is that you should understand address scopes before trying out BGP23:30
Sam-I-Amyeah, and that makes total sense23:30
Sam-I-Amyour documentation about address scopes is actually damn good :)23:30
Sam-I-Amits nice to have a use case23:30
tidwellr_maybe all that's needed is a similar comment that directs the operators to their network team23:31
Sam-I-Ameven if you didn't directly write about them, you're using them for something practical23:31
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Add grenade upgrade hooks to stop agent  https://review.openstack.org/31380423:47
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Add grenade upgrade hooks to stop agent  https://review.openstack.org/31380423:48
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Add grenade upgrade hooks to stop agent  https://review.openstack.org/31380423:55
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Neutron Stadium Evolution  https://review.openstack.org/31219923:59

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