Thursday, 2016-01-14

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openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Pecan: get rid of member action hook  https://review.openstack.org/26044000:11
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openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Pecan: use reservations in quota enforcement hook  https://review.openstack.org/26724300:12
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: ML2: update port's status to DOWN if its binding info has changed  https://review.openstack.org/21546701:04
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openstackgerritLIU Yulong proposed openstack/neutron: Catch DBReferenceError in HA router race conditions  https://review.openstack.org/26030301:25
dimskevinbenton : ping...about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265264/ - it seems to be holding up. what can i do next? override the code in the original or just get this one ready and we can drop the original one? (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220758/)01:27
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openstackgerritLIU Yulong proposed openstack/neutron: Clean up l3 agent side HA router stuffs  https://review.openstack.org/26567201:28
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openstackgerritLIU Yulong proposed openstack/neutron: ML2: catch router HA ports update DB error after race conditions  https://review.openstack.org/26567601:31
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openstackgerritLIU Yulong proposed openstack/neutron: Ensure HA router can be synced after HA router race conditions  https://review.openstack.org/26568001:35
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openstackgerritLIU Yulong proposed openstack/neutron: Catch exceptions during the delete of tenant last HA router  https://review.openstack.org/26568201:48
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openstackgerritLIU Yulong proposed openstack/neutron: Catch DB error after HA router race conditions  https://review.openstack.org/26568501:58
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openstackgerritZhaoBo proposed openstack/neutron: Fixed pass wrong cidr check during create subnet  https://review.openstack.org/20194202:06
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openstackgerritZhaoBo proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Fix inappropriate info when net-list -F {fields}  https://review.openstack.org/21307902:57
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spandheany sqlalchemy orm experts here? :) I have a raw mysql query and cant get it to work with sqlalchemy02:58
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openstackgerritLi Ma proposed openstack/neutron: Add popular IP protocols for security group  https://review.openstack.org/25215503:06
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openstackgerritLIU Yulong proposed openstack/neutron: Ensure no stale process lives in l3 agent side after races  https://review.openstack.org/26610903:34
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openstackgerritReedip proposed openstack/neutron: Compress extended ipv6 address  https://review.openstack.org/26728303:44
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openstackgerritcaoyue proposed openstack/neutron:  Make enforce_type=True in CONF.set_override  https://review.openstack.org/26507804:57
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openstackgerritBo Chi proposed openstack/neutron: Remove 'validate' key in 'type:dict_or_nodata' type  https://review.openstack.org/26631905:11
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openstackgerritAkihiro Motoki proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Consume _ from local _1i8n  https://review.openstack.org/26111105:30
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Fix typo in test path in Testing.rst  https://review.openstack.org/26715005:48
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Fix URLs for pep8, and unit tests jobs  https://review.openstack.org/26713905:50
openstackgerrityalei wang proposed openstack/neutron: Add precommit_XXX event for security group and rules  https://review.openstack.org/25275505:50
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openstackgerritReedip proposed openstack/neutron: Compress extended ipv6 address  https://review.openstack.org/26728306:24
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: Fix ports get and delete control for network owner  https://review.openstack.org/25528506:43
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openstackgerritAkihiro Motoki proposed openstack/neutron: tests: stop validating neutronclient in neutron-debug tests  https://review.openstack.org/26688506:46
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openstackgerritDavid Bingham proposed openstack/neutron: Add API extension for reporting IP address usage statistics  https://review.openstack.org/21295507:03
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openstackgerritZhaoBo proposed openstack/neutron: Fixed pass wrong cidr check during create subnet  https://review.openstack.org/20194207:11
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oomichireedip: hi, the gate condition of neutron-lbaas doesn't seem good07:14
oomichireedip: do you know the situation?07:14
reedipoomichi: no, I was working on other items. can you share the info link here?07:14
oomichireedip: my patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267291/07:15
oomichireedip: unrelated gate jobs are failing now.07:16
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oomichireedip: and the other guys's patches also are failing now due to the same07:16
amotokioomichi: reedip: at now there are multiple gate failures in neutorn.07:17
reedipoomichi : oh... ok, let us see what the issue is, but there is a separate bug for neutron which I gues amotoki is checking out07:17
oomichiamotoki: I digged a little bit, but I could not find the root problem yet07:18
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amotokione is a unit test failure in neutron. the other is about lbaas.07:18
amotokiwe haven't got the root cause yet.07:18
amotokiwe are first trying to maje those jobs07:19
amotokiwe are first trying to make those jobs non-voting in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267223/07:19
oomichiamotoki: when the lbaas problem starts happening?07:19
amotokioomichi: very recently07:19
amotokioomichi: at least last night it worked (in my TZ)07:20
oomichiamotoki: ok, thanks. I also try it again07:20
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reedipoomichi: I think that lbaas tempest patch can be kept on hold, till the neutron UT and Lbaas related issue is not solved, post which it can be rechecked.07:22
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oomichireedip: yeah, we can. The best way is that *we* solve these problems and merge patches07:26
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amotokiI wonder how dib is used.... what happens...07:27
oomichiamotoki: devstack failed during installing grub-pc package according to http://logs.openstack.org/91/267291/2/check/gate-neutron-lbaasv2-dsvm-member/bec02c0/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz07:27
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oomichimore specific: http://logs.openstack.org/91/267291/2/check/gate-neutron-lbaasv2-dsvm-member/bec02c0/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2016-01-14_05_50_17_65107:29
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reedipoomichi: if I am correct, this is for a specific test case , related to lbaas-member07:31
reedipanyhow looking into it07:31
openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: Update HACKING.rst for empty assertion  https://review.openstack.org/26735907:31
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: Update HACKING.rst for empty assertion  https://review.openstack.org/26735907:32
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reedipamotoki: The log reported by oomichi is also visible in http://logs.openstack.org/91/267291/2/check/gate-neutron-lbaasv2-dsvm-healthmonitor/93661fd/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz07:35
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oomichireedip: before the package problem, "Keystone failed to get token" happened07:38
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oomichireedip: http://logs.openstack.org/91/267291/2/check/gate-neutron-lbaasv2-dsvm-healthmonitor/93661fd/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2016-01-14_05_36_32_36007:38
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: Unify using assertIsInstance  https://review.openstack.org/26401207:40
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oomichireedip: amotoki: the problem seems octavia's devstack plugin07:41
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reedipoomichi : ??07:43
oomichireedip: http://logs.openstack.org/91/267291/2/check/gate-neutron-lbaasv2-dsvm-healthmonitor/93661fd/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2016-01-14_05_36_29_12307:44
openstackgerrityalei wang proposed openstack/neutron: Add precommit_XXX event for security group and rules  https://review.openstack.org/25275507:44
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oomichireedip: octavia's devstack run duing lbaas's devstack07:44
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oomichireedip: and the failure happened during octavia's one07:44
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reedipoomichi : Oh, the keystone one?07:45
amotokisorry late. I am in another meeting too.07:45
amotokiI think it is correct that octavia is failing.07:45
amotokilbaasv1 job is not failing. only lbaasv2 jobs are failing.07:46
oomichireedip: yeah, octavia devstack tried to create keypair, but failed to get token from keystone07:46
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oomichiamotoki: nice point :)07:46
reedipThats because maybe of this reason ??07:46
oomichiamotoki: that means v2 only depends on octavia, right?07:46
amotokioomichi: yes07:46
oomichiperfect answer :)07:47
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amotokioomichi: In LBaaSv2, Octavia becomes the default driver.07:47
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reediphttp://logs.openstack.org/91/267291/2/check/gate-neutron-lbaasv2-dsvm-scenario/4869301/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2016-01-14_05_29_51_08407:48
oomichiinteresting thing is that failure point is "nova keypair-add" command07:48
oomichithat doesn't seem octavia specific07:48
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oomichireedip: hehe, cool07:49
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reedipoomichi: amotoki: this is actually happening just before octavia´s devstack07:50
oomichireedip: yeah, but that is concreate hint07:51
openstackgerritCao ShuFeng proposed openstack/neutron: Middleware to log initial value of new resource  https://review.openstack.org/26736807:51
reediphmm07:51
oomichibecause failed to get token07:51
amotokifor example, you can find successful results at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223043/ for example.07:51
openstackgerritZhaoBo proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Fix inappropriate info when net-list -F {fields}  https://review.openstack.org/21307907:52
amotokimore recent one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253949/07:52
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: Handle ip rule priority differently  https://review.openstack.org/26436407:58
openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: Unify exceptions for assign router to dvr agent  https://review.openstack.org/26179307:58
reedipamotoki : the amphora based error does not occur in the patch you mentioned , as well as the Octavia error07:58
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reedipI do not think there was any change related to project_id/tenant_id for Octavia ?07:59
reedipthis patch also worked fine : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266829/08:00
reedipexcept for the scenario08:01
reedipgate-neutron-lbaasv2-dsvm-scenario08:01
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oomichireedip: I am guessing a change happened on more common place(devstack, project-config, etc)08:08
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yaliereedip: ping08:12
reedipyalie:pong08:13
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yaliereedip: hi, just saw your comments one this 'full stop' https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218388/4/neutronclient/neutron/v2_0/port.py08:13
yaliereedip: what's that mean?08:13
reedipAssosiate no fixed ip to this port   --08:14
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reedipyalie:     Assosiate no fixed ip to this port ==> Assosiate no fixed ip to this port .08:14
reedipAnd it should be Associate ... just saw this08:14
yaliereedip: yes, and what is that you mean "And full stop as mentioned in the previous PS"08:15
reedipI posted what I meant in the Patch08:15
reedipyou can look into it08:15
reedipI have specified what I would like the statement to be in the Help message08:16
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reedipHope it is clear?08:16
yaliereedip: ah, I know, sorry, forgive my bad english08:16
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yaliereedip: I am thinking I need stop something..., thanks very much!08:17
reedipyalie : no issues, we all get to learn this way08:17
yaliereedip: :)08:17
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reedipamotoki: The issue occurred even before garyk ´s patch08:20
reedipamotoki: Reference: http://logs.openstack.org/47/202147/16/check/gate-neutron-lbaasv2-dsvm-healthmonitor/811752c/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz08:20
reedipamotoki: oomichi: maybe this issue is not an always-occurring issue08:21
oomichireedip: huge number of rechecks can be passed on the gate ? :)08:21
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reedipoomich_away : not sure, just checking the last occurrence of this issue to get a better information for the cause08:22
openstackgerrityalei wang proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: port: add --no-fixed-ip option to allow port without subnet/ip address  https://review.openstack.org/21838808:23
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openstackgerritHong Hui Xiao proposed openstack/neutron: Update related router when subnetpool change scope  https://review.openstack.org/25147008:44
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openstackgerritLiuNanke proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Clean up removed hacking rule from [flake8] ignore lists  https://review.openstack.org/26740108:48
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dasmgood morning o/08:50
openstackgerritLiuNanke proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Clean up removed hacking rule from [flake8] ignore lists  https://review.openstack.org/26740608:51
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scheuranGood Morning! Does anybody know if this test_bash_completion in the gates has already been fixed?08:55
reedipscheuran : I think amotoki is working on it08:57
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scheuranreedip, ok, so recheck seems not to make sense at the moment.... Thanks08:57
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openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/os-vif: introduce vif.Config  https://review.openstack.org/26676809:25
openstackgerritReedip proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add support for Bulk Delete in NeutronClient  https://review.openstack.org/26360909:27
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openstackgerritReedip proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add support for Bulk Delete in NeutronClient  https://review.openstack.org/26360909:29
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openstackgerritAkihiro Motoki proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Fix inappropriate info when net-list -F {fields}  https://review.openstack.org/21307909:34
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openstackgerritCao ShuFeng proposed openstack/neutron: Middleware to log initial value of new resource  https://review.openstack.org/26736810:29
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openstackgerritCao ShuFeng proposed openstack/neutron: Middleware to log initial value of new resource  https://review.openstack.org/26736810:32
ajojlibosva , ihrachys , rossella_s  do you remember if we finally have a dashboard generator for the cycle?10:32
ajoI mean, based in your code rossella_s , or shall I just run it locally and go for now?10:33
ihrachysno idea10:33
ihrachyshaven't seen anything definite in the end10:33
jlibosvaajo: I don't even know what you're talking about10:33
ajojlibosva : rosella made a script to generate a dashboard per cycle,10:34
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ajojlibosva , it inspects launchpad blueprints for the cycle, and generates a gerrit dashboard10:34
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jlibosvaajo: oh, I see10:34
ajojlibosva : https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/tools/milestone-review-dash.py10:34
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mattthi all, in liberty+ db migrations fall into two branches -- expand and contract -- should all neutron plugins be following suit or is that an optional structure to adopt?10:35
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rossella_sajo I have only this http://rossella-sblendido.net/2015/12/14/gerrit-url-neutron-reviews/10:40
rossella_sajo the url is update every day10:41
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rossella_sajo I wanted to put that in a public place but in the neutron wiki it would mean generate a review every day to update the url...I should talk to infra to see if there's an easy solution10:42
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ajorossella_s++ :=10:42
ajo:-)10:42
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openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor remove_router_interface() for DVR  https://review.openstack.org/26255810:46
openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce new query to return all hosts for DVR router  https://review.openstack.org/25911310:46
openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor remove_router_interface() for DVR  https://review.openstack.org/26255810:51
openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce new query to return all hosts for DVR router  https://review.openstack.org/25911310:51
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openstackgerritNam Nguyen Hoai proposed openstack/neutron: Fix bug created two subnets on one network that duplicated CIDR  https://review.openstack.org/26747011:04
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openstackgerritNam Nguyen Hoai proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Fix bug created two subnets on one network that duplicated CIDR  https://review.openstack.org/26747011:10
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openstackgerritCao ShuFeng proposed openstack/neutron: Middleware to log initial value of new resource  https://review.openstack.org/26736811:38
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Agent specific API for L2 agent extensions  https://review.openstack.org/26381911:38
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: Handle ip rule priority differently  https://review.openstack.org/26436411:41
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mhickeyihrachys: Hey12:01
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ajomoshele , could you have an eye on ndipanov's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262604/5 ?12:04
ajosr-iov VIF type for PF vnic type12:05
ihrachysmhickey: hey12:06
ihrachysmattt: re your question earlier today: I think we allow it for a while, but will probably drop some time N+12:06
openstackgerritHarshada Mangesh Kakad proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Replace deprecated library function os.popen() with subprocess  https://review.openstack.org/26750112:07
openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: Do not remove router from dvr_snat agents on dvr port deletion  https://review.openstack.org/25598912:08
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matttihrachys: the neutron-db-manage fails when you run upgrae --expand/--contract when you have a plugin installed that doesn't use branches -- is that a bug then?12:09
ihrachysmattt: what would be semantically correct in that case if not failing?12:10
openstackgerritHarshada Mangesh Kakad proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Replace deprecated library function os.popen() with subprocess  https://review.openstack.org/26750112:10
mhickeyihrachys: How are things?12:10
ihrachysmhickey: reasonable. what's up12:10
mhickeyihrachys: I have a fix for patch 248190.I am not fully happy with it but might be worth checking in to get feedback. what do you think?12:11
ihrachysmhickey: I think we can check it once you upload it12:12
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/neutron: Move DHCP updates onto worker thread, coalesce port updates  https://review.openstack.org/26526412:14
mhickeyihrachys: sure. I am having an issue when trying to commit my changes after I pull out your changes. what is best procedure to do an update to someone else's patch?12:16
kleiniI have the problem in my liberty installation, that floatingip quota usages are totally wrong in neutron database. did anybody encounter similar issues as I have in my installation? https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1533687 https://bugs.launchpad.net/mos/+bug/152758112:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1533687 in neutron "Quota info in DB for floatingip is not updated immediately" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Sergey Belous (sbelous)12:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1527581 in Mirantis OpenStack "Can't create new floating IP when the pool of IPs is empty: ERROR (Forbidden): IP allocation over quota. (HTTP 403)" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Sergey Belous (sbelous)12:16
ihrachysmhickey: what's the issue specifically?12:16
mhickeyihrachys: it thinks I have to commits; one is a merge of the code following me pull of the code.12:17
mhickey*two commits*12:17
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dasmihrachys: hey. i'd like to know your opinion on changing column names in db. i've proposed sth like this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257362/12:18
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dasmHenryG commented, that probably we can skip one of steps, and just copy all the data.12:19
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dasmI'm afraid, it'll kill db (or at least take some time to process).12:19
dasmso, fro ops PoV it could be not a really good idea.12:20
dasm*from12:20
dasmihrachys: what do you think about this (asking, because you're involved in rolling upgrades :) )12:20
ihrachysdasm: thanks for reaching. I would honestly not do any rename until we have better (online) means to do it12:21
ihrachysif you come up with a neat way to handle it without rename, that would actually be better.12:22
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ihrachysmaybe we can add some aliases to fields in db models?12:22
dasmit's possible12:22
ihrachysso that in db it's tenant, but renamed/has two names in model?12:22
dasmi don't understand. could you rephrase it?12:23
openstackgerritNam Nguyen Hoai proposed openstack/neutron: Fix bug created two subnets on one network that duplicated CIDR  https://review.openstack.org/26747012:23
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dasmwe have several places with tenant_id and tenant_name. i was thinking about adding project_* and moving all the data through next several releases.12:24
dasmsimilar what cinder is trying to do with online schema migration12:24
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ihrachysdasm: I understand it. the issue I am concerned about is that we don't have object facades yet to hide that migration behind (unless sqlalchemy models have means for that).12:25
dasmmhm12:26
ihrachysdasm: so it really depends on whether we find a proper way do isolate migration code somewhere.12:26
ihrachysif not, and if we choose between shorter offline upgrade phase and code cleanliness, I vote for the former12:26
dasmother idea was to add getters/setters for sqlalchemy model to expose project_* and under the hood stay with "tenant_*" name for db.12:27
dasmdidn't check this solution, and don't know how migration would work12:28
dasmbased on my python experience, shouldn't be a problem.12:28
mosheleajo: sure12:28
dasmihrachys: thanks for review.12:29
ihrachysdasm: yes, that would be my alias suggestion - not touching db but making models behave as if it's project12:29
dasmi think it's possible to achieve.12:30
ihrachysand when we are in better shape in terms of facades, we can actually rename in db in online mode12:30
dasmihrachys: gotcha. thanks. i'll update spec and talk about this to HenryG.12:30
ihrachysdasm: thanks for caring about ops ;)12:31
ihrachyssome renames could be less huge, but that one would take ages to run12:31
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dasmi do not have an access to production db, but believe, there will be at least thousands entries with tenant_*12:32
dasmihrachys: so, if sth would break, ops would kill me :D12:32
ihrachysdasm: yeah, I would say almost every first class object has the field :)12:32
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ihrachyseven second order objects do sometimes12:33
ihrachysdue to our api level limitations12:33
ihrachys(used for authN checks)12:33
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ihrachysafazekas: hey man. I have some questions on multinode for you. :)12:34
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afazekaspong12:35
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ihrachysafazekas: so I am looking at images at https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/tree/multinode_setup_info.txt#n8112:39
ihrachysafazekas: we have some issues with ssh connectivity between nodes when tenant network is vxlan based12:39
ihrachysafazekas: that's prolly because network connectivity between nodes is tunneled itself.12:39
ihrachysafazekas: so when a 1500 size packet is sent by an instance, it does not fit thru br-tun12:40
ihrachysafazekas: does it ring a bell for you?12:40
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ihrachysafazekas: my understanding is that to avoid it, we should advertise MTU using DHCP option into instances, that would be <= 1450 (assuming tunnel between nodes is vxlan)12:40
ihrachysnow tell me I talk nonsense :)12:41
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ihrachysafazekas: I also saw https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/master/devstack-vm-gate.sh#L674 but I am not sure it's relevant because the thing that fails for us is connectivity using private address, not FIP, so probably does not pass br-ex12:42
afazekasdhcp can tell to the guest the mtu size12:42
afazekasI am not sure is the current cirrros follows it, there was bug about it12:42
ihrachysafazekas: yeah, but should it be 1500 - vxlan header size or 1500 - 2 * (vxlan header size)? depends on how internode connectivity is handled12:43
ihrachysafazekas: it does honour the option now12:43
ihrachysafazekas: since 0.3.412:43
ihrachyswhich we use in gate12:43
ihrachysso the question is whether it will be enough to set advertise_mtu = True, or we also need to reduce path_mtu to 1450?12:43
afazekasAs I remember setting the myu on the br-ex and advertising a lower mtu to the guests should be sufficient12:44
ihrachysafazekas: I have a patch that reduces path_mtu to 1400 and enables advertisement. I probably should check with just the latter12:44
ihrachysafazekas: define 'lower'12:45
ihrachysafazekas: just to accommodate for tenant tunneling, or there is more tunneling in between? (again, depends on how nodes are interconnected)12:45
afazekashttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/112523/8/lib/neutron_plugins/ovs_base12:45
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afazekasWith that patch it supposed to just work, but it got -112:46
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ihrachysafazekas: we have some kind of advertisement already, should calculate for encap headers already, hence -112:47
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ihrachysI suspect advertisement is enough, I don't see anything in the document that would suggest we have physical mtu for the interface that backs br-tun less than 150012:49
afazekasjust for br-ex12:49
afazekasnot for br-tun12:49
afazekasThe host linux will do handle the mtu differences for br-ex in this case12:50
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ihrachysafazekas: ok got it. so path_mtu is not needed, and dhcp agent will just pass 1500-(vxlan header size) into instance, and it will work. Thanks!12:52
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afazekas`path_mtu` would be required  if you want to go above the default limit12:53
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: tests: stop validating neutronclient in neutron-debug tests  https://review.openstack.org/26688512:54
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: DO NOT MERGE: Advertise network mtu using DHCP  https://review.openstack.org/26575912:54
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openstackgerritArtur Korzeniewski proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: Network OVO object and Subnet OVO  https://review.openstack.org/26427313:00
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: DO NOT MERGE: Advertise network mtu using DHCP  https://review.openstack.org/26575913:05
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ihrachyssc68cal: I don't believe we need path_mtu for devstack-gate, br-tun should have full 1500 mtu size, it's only br-ex that has 145013:17
ihrachyssc68cal: I am currently validating it with some patches in gate.13:17
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openstackgerritPaul Michali proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: Redirect shims for new neutron-lib routines  https://review.openstack.org/24221913:20
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openstackgerritHarshada Mangesh Kakad proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Replace deprecated library function os.popen() with subprocess  https://review.openstack.org/26755613:26
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openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/26615713:48
Sam-I-Ammornings13:49
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mhickeyHowdy Sam-I-Am13:50
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Sam-I-Amwhats up13:50
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mhickeyall quiet; got osme ice at last!13:51
mhickey*some*13:51
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Sam-I-Amice... sounds fun.13:51
mhickeynot for drinks kind! :)13:51
Sam-I-Amwell i suppose you could make that work13:52
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mhickey:)13:54
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ihrachyssc68cal: nah actually path_mtu is probably needed, since we don't really inspect physical device mtus14:05
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Sam-I-Amihrachys: the tunnel endpoints just use the vm's 'public' ip, right?14:11
ihrachysSam-I-Am: yeah, that's what I get from Attila at least14:11
ihrachysSam-I-Am: so the culprit is only in instances not setting mtu properly14:12
Sam-I-Amare we not setting it at all for instances now?14:12
ihrachysSam-I-Am: no since we don't advertise14:13
Sam-I-Amoh, yeah we need to change that then14:13
ihrachysSam-I-Am: that would require the patch from sc68cal to enable advertise_mtu AND something (devstack?) that would set proper path_mtu14:13
Sam-I-Amthere was a spec a couple cycles ago to enable end-to-end mtu stuff... doesn't actually work, best i can tell.14:14
Sam-I-Amthe only thing it does is send mtu via dhcp to your vms14:14
ihrachysSam-I-Am: I think we cannot set 1500 as the default value for path_mtu, right? it could potentially regress for those that have networks  that allow jumbo frames14:14
ihrachysSam-I-Am: dhcp option would be enough14:14
ihrachysSam-I-Am: the problem is that it does not currently automatically detect what to send14:14
Sam-I-Amno, it does not14:15
ihrachysSam-I-Am: so unless you explicitly configure your max path mtu, it does nothing14:15
Sam-I-Amthe spec really isnt implemented in a useful way14:15
ihrachyswell, it's better than nothing14:15
Sam-I-Amso in the meantime, its just there to set the dhcp option14:15
ihrachysSam-I-Am: and honour path_mtu14:15
ihrachyswhich should be enough for our needs14:15
matttihrachys: sorry, missed your question ... i'm not familiar enough with migrations and am trying to understand if neutron-db-manage failing when you upgrade --head/--contract w/ a non conforming plugin is a bug with neutron-db-manage or the plugin14:16
ihrachyswe also have physical_network_mtus option but I am not sure how to use it14:16
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ihrachysmattt: well, for --contract it could be different I guess, because we could indeed safely apply all scripts from those plugins14:17
openstackgerritDavid Shaughnessy proposed openstack/neutron: l2-agent-extensions-agent-api  https://review.openstack.org/26759114:17
ihrachysmattt: I just don't believe we should proceed with --expand if there is no distinction for the plugin14:17
Sam-I-Amphysical_network_mts was never implemented14:18
Sam-I-Amit misleads people greatly and should be removed or implemented14:18
matttihrachys: understood ... i guess the best solution is to urge network plugins to use the proper branches so we can run --expand/--contract across all plugins14:18
ihrachysmattt: I think we already warn them that it will be dropped in N14:18
ihrachysSam-I-Am: good to know14:18
ihrachysSam-I-Am: so I will try to come up with some devstack patch to set path_mtu for now14:19
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Sam-I-Amihrachys: i'm surprised tests havent failed earlier with vms using 1500 in the gate14:20
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ihrachysSam-I-Am: same here. :)14:21
davidshaihrachys: Patch is up, looking forward to the feedback.14:22
ihrachysdavidsha++14:22
Sam-I-Am1450 should work for vxlan... and that should also work for the multi-node gre tunnels off br-ex14:22
ihrachysSam-I-Am: actually, 1500 should work too.14:22
Sam-I-Amhowso?14:23
ihrachysas long as the value is not 0, we will advertise proper value (1450)14:23
ihrachysI mean, path_mtu=1500 is fine14:23
Sam-I-Amoh, so it adjusts from the 150014:23
ihrachysbecause get_mtu() should calculate 1450 from that for vxlan networks14:23
Sam-I-Ammakes sense14:23
ihrachysand for GRE, it will be a bit higher14:23
Sam-I-Am1454 usually works for grer14:23
openstackgerritMiguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: RPC Callback rolling upgrades support  https://review.openstack.org/26534714:24
Sam-I-Amso the mtu stuff mostly works when your network mtu is 1500 or less, but not for jumbo frames because it does not address the bits between the vm and physnet14:24
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: DO NOT MERGE: Advertise network mtu using DHCP  https://review.openstack.org/26575914:43
ihrachysSam-I-Am: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267604/1/lib/neutron_plugins/ml2 I think that should do the job (also cherry-picked to liberty and validating with the patch ^)14:45
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Sam-I-Amihrachys: what about advertise_mtu?14:52
Sam-I-Ami think thats the option that the dhcp agent uses14:53
ihrachysSam-I-Am: it's in https://review.openstack.org/26348614:53
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ihrachysSam-I-Am: we would need both pieces14:53
Sam-I-Amoh, there we go14:53
Sam-I-Amnow it makes sense14:53
Sam-I-Amstill before coffee here14:54
ihrachysI guess I will now spin on sc68cal's patch14:54
ihrachysit has some things to fix14:54
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sc68calihrachys: ack. Yeah it's a little tricky isn't it.15:08
sc68calSam-I-Am: I told you i'd get around to MTU stuff eventually ;)15:08
Sam-I-Amsc68cal: riiiight15:08
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sc68calok time to go to RAX HQ15:10
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: dhcp: handle advertise_mtu=True when plugin does not set mtu values  https://review.openstack.org/26764115:13
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blogan_salv-orl_: ping15:18
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openstackgerritDavid Bingham proposed openstack/neutron: Add API extension for reporting IP address usage statistics  https://review.openstack.org/21295515:21
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yamamotomestery: any blocker on this?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-midonet/+bug/152580915:21
openstackLaunchpad bug 1525809 in networking-midonet " networking-midonet 2015.1.2 stable/kilo release request" [High,New] - Assigned to YAMAMOTO Takashi (yamamoto)15:21
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Make Neutron attempt to advertise MTUs by default  https://review.openstack.org/26348615:26
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mesteryyamamoto: None, I'm on it15:29
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yamamotomestery: thank you15:30
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: DO NOT MERGE: Advertise network mtu using DHCP  https://review.openstack.org/26575915:33
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openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron: Do not prohibit VXLAN over IPv6  https://review.openstack.org/26349915:36
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salv-orl_hi blogan_15:40
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ssrikantSam-I-Am: I had a question regarding https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/153064715:46
openstackLaunchpad bug 1530647 in neutron " dhcp: Default to using local DNS resolution" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Sangeetha Srikanth (ssrikant)15:46
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ssrikantThis defect was opened because of DocImpact tag in 192712.15:46
Sam-I-Amok, what about it?15:47
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ssrikantTrying to get clarification on the whether it is for changes to openstack docs dhcp configuration file to document to the new option added to the code15:47
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ssrikantOr anything more than that is required15:48
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Sam-I-Amyou probably need to determine what docs were impacted by that change15:49
Sam-I-Amfor example, the networking guide and installation guide15:49
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Sam-I-Amright now they specify dns servers manually during subnet creation, but we could mention that operators can use this new method15:49
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Sam-I-Ammight also be something in the admin guide15:50
ssrikantI see15:50
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ssrikantand then I document the proposed changes in the defect and then check in the changes after approval ?15:50
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Sam-I-Amfirst thing to do is determine if the docs bug pertains to docs in the neutron repo and/or openstack-manuals repo15:52
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Sam-I-Amif there are neutron docs that need changing, you make them and tag the bug in your patch15:52
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Sam-I-Amfor openstack-manuals docs, you determine if the bug contains enough information for someone on the docs team (without any real knowledge of neutron) to make the changes. if so, you can move the bug to openstack-manuals when all neutron changes are done. if not, you need to provide a better explanation of the change in the bug... or make the changes yourself.15:54
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Sam-I-Amhope that helps a bit15:55
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ssrikantyes.. Definitely.. I will first start looking at the related documents and then ask if there are more questions.15:55
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ssrikantThanks for getting me started on this bug.15:55
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openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: Set BUILD status for ports right after update in DB  https://review.openstack.org/25356916:00
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: devstack: use stevedore entry point for flavor service plugin  https://review.openstack.org/26766816:02
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: HACKING: update HACKING.rst file to include latest changes  https://review.openstack.org/26693516:03
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: Unify using assertIsInstance  https://review.openstack.org/26401216:06
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: fix _validate_shared_update for dvr router ports  https://review.openstack.org/25315516:08
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: Unify exceptions for assign router to dvr agent  https://review.openstack.org/26179316:10
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: Fix ports get and delete control for network owner  https://review.openstack.org/25528516:12
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: fix get_ha_sync_data_for_host for non-dvr agent  https://review.openstack.org/23990816:13
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: Allow _get_sync_floating_ips to filter host  https://review.openstack.org/26615216:16
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: WIP Optimize _get_dvr_sync_data for dvr agent  https://review.openstack.org/26618216:24
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openstackgerritMartin Hickey proposed openstack/neutron: neutron-db-manage: add has_offline_migrations command  https://review.openstack.org/24819016:28
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amullerhaleyb: Random thought of the day - Those MTU issues with multinode grenade, any chances it might be affecting the multinode DVR and non-DVR jobs?16:32
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openstackgerritMartin Hickey proposed openstack/neutron: neutron-db-manage: add has_offline_migrations command  https://review.openstack.org/24819016:37
Sam-I-Amamuller: depends on how they're failing16:41
Sam-I-Amsshing to instances is usually the first failure16:41
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jschwarzSam-I-Am, we see a lot of those in the multinode/multinode-dvr16:55
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Sam-I-Amprobably has something to do with it16:56
Sam-I-Amssh hangs at key exchange usually16:56
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mlavallearmax: so the meetings are back to Mondays only at 2100 UTC, right?17:18
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ihrachysSam-I-Am: we can recheck for a bit on https://review.openstack.org/265759 to see if it helped. this review should have all needed to fix the mtu issuw17:32
openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack/neutron: Added Keystone and RequestID headers to CORS middleware  https://review.openstack.org/26541217:33
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mhickeyihrachys: Hey. I eventually got change delivered. Some small pain with gerrit! :)17:50
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openstackgerritJohn Davidge proposed openstack/neutron: Prevent PD subnets with incorrect IPv6 modes  https://review.openstack.org/25875417:56
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rickyrem1I'm looking up how to meter external bandwidth usage vs internal. It looks like all the feature requests for this i've found have been refused. Does anyone know why?18:07
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sc68calrickyrem1: are you referring to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1521194 ?18:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1521194 in neutron "Qos Aggregated Bandwidth Rate Limiting" [Wishlist,Triaged]18:08
sc68caland https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1531485 ?18:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1531485 in neutron "Available device bandwidth report by L2 agent" [Wishlist,Incomplete]18:08
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rickyrem1I actually hadn't seen those18:10
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sc68calrickyrem1: sorry, i misunderstood. you want to meter it, not throttle. Do you have a link to where your feature was "refused"?18:11
rickyrem1Correct, not throttle18:12
sc68caltypically a reason is provided for why a feature was turned down18:12
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rickyrem1It wasn't my own feature request. This is one I was wondering about. it is old though https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/105351418:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1053514 in Ceilometer "Pollster for external network traffic" [Wishlist,Won't fix]18:13
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sc68calrickyrem1: ok, well that's ceilometer. That's a different IRC channel. You'd have to ask them why18:14
rickyrem1My mistake on that one specifically18:15
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rickyrem1sc68cal: The neutron-metering-agent is under the scope of this channel, right?18:17
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sc68calrickyrem1: yes18:18
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sc68calrickyrem1: bascially it's hard to answer why your feature was refused without a link. But in general there are reasons given why a feature was rejected18:19
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wwriverratDropped some new code for the following project that aligns it with its spec. It is currently at Jenkins+1, but overall garyk has it in a -2 from a long ago review regarding waiting until spec approval.  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212955/18:20
rickyrem1Okay thank you.18:20
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mriedemcarl_baldwin: fyi https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226157/18:24
mriedemre: your thread on gate breaking things and upper-constraints18:24
carl_baldwinmriedem: Thanks, I'll take a look.18:25
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garykwwriverrat: i removed the -2 - will review next week when back at work18:37
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garykwwriverrat: unit tests?18:38
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wwriverratgaryk: I’m guessing test_network_ip_availability.py does not constitute unit tests?18:49
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: Optimize _get_dvr_sync_data for floatingip  https://review.openstack.org/26615219:03
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ZZelle_carl_baldwin, hi19:15
carl_baldwinZZelle_: hi19:15
ZZelle_carl_baldwin, about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205631/31/neutron/scheduler/dhcp_agent_scheduler.py19:16
ZZelle_carl_baldwin, i am not sure to understand what is your point19:16
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carl_baldwinMy first comment or last comment?19:17
carl_baldwinZZelle_: ^19:17
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ZZelle_carl_baldwin, both :)19:17
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carl_baldwinZZelle_: I guess the overall point is that this patch is driven from the routed networks use case.  It makes sense to do it all consistently.19:18
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ZZelle_carl_baldwin, how does it affect the change?19:20
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carl_baldwinZZelle_: I don't think this patch makes sense on its own.  We don't support any kind of use case currently where a network is not reachable from all hosts.  This patch doesn't enable any such use case.19:22
ZZelle_carl_baldwin, because you are assuming this patch is driven from the routed networks use case19:22
ZZelle_carl_baldwin, it's not, it's just a consequence19:22
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carl_baldwinZZelle_: The people requesting this are doing their own version of routed networks.  The whole thing comes from the etherpad that I requested from operators who are asking for routed networks.  The diagram linked to bug is a routed network.19:24
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carl_baldwinZZelle_: Who is asking for this that is not using it in a routed networks context?19:24
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carl_baldwinIt isn't consequence.19:24
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ZZelle_carl_baldwin, me, i want to use it to separate dhcp related to different classes of services (ie: physnet)19:25
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Sam-I-Amhaleyb: you around?19:26
carl_baldwinZZelle_: That use case doesn't appear anywhere that I've seen.  Is it linked somewhere that I missed?19:26
ZZelle_carl_baldwin, no, it just matches current implementations19:27
carl_baldwinZZelle_: So, it is just consequence?19:27
carl_baldwinZZelle_: I'm not sure how we can consider use cases that aren't called out.19:27
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ZZelle_carl_baldwin, as the one implementing the change, it's not a consequence, it's the reason, i am working on this change19:28
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carl_baldwinamuller_afk is listed as the author and owner of this patch.  It is linked to a bug that was clearly driven from the routed networks use case.  That is the record that I see.  Please document your use case and make it publicly and clearly linked if you want me to consider it.  Otherwise, I have to read your mind.19:31
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carl_baldwinZZelle_: ^19:32
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ZZelle_carl_baldwin, honestly i am tried to argue that we need such feature even if an AZ scheduler has been merged, that taking into account vif_type/vnic_type in filtering can come latter ...19:40
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ZZelle_s/tried/tired/19:41
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openstackgerritBrian Haley proposed openstack/neutron: Fix Linux bridge test_report_state_revived failure on OSX  https://review.openstack.org/26778919:43
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openstackgerritsean mooney proposed openstack/os-vif: reorder tox envlist to run python 3.4 before 2.7  https://review.openstack.org/26779119:45
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openstackgerritsean mooney proposed openstack/os-vif: remove python 2.6 trove classifier  https://review.openstack.org/26779219:52
openstackgerritBrian Haley proposed openstack/neutron: Fix Linux bridge test_report_state_revived failure on OSX  https://review.openstack.org/26778919:52
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carl_baldwinZZelle_: Just a breakdown in communication.  Let's try to understand one another in the patch comments.19:56
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amullercarl_baldwin: btw I added tests for the L3 HA FIP status patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177777/19:57
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carl_baldwinamuller: ack19:58
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amullercarl_baldwin: it was odd I had 3 people tell me that it's failing tempest tests because of this issue, all on the same day19:59
amullercarl_baldwin: so I said alright let's solve that bug =p19:59
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carl_baldwinamuller: funny how things can align like that.20:04
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haleybamuller: regarding multinode grenade and MTU, it could be causing ssh issues, but I would expect it to fail all the time, at least it does for me20:06
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haleybSam-I-Am: i am around now, was on my laptop and didn't realize xchat had died, which maybe was a good thing20:07
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sc68calhaleyb: it's weird that we had instances where the multinode grenade did pass20:08
sc68calbut on some reviews it consistently fails20:08
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haleybmaybe it depends on where the VM is placed, if it's local there's no problem20:09
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sc68calhaleyb: yep! that'd be it20:09
Sam-I-Amhaleyb: i was looking at one of the many mtu-fuzzing patches and had some questions20:09
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haleybSam-I-Am: i'll try and help, luckily sc68cal is here as well20:12
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Sam-I-Amyeah20:12
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sc68calI wouldn't call myself an MTU expert20:13
Sam-I-Amhaleyb: was trying to figure out if the dhcp agent actually advertises path_mtu minus overhead from the overlay driver... or just passes path_mtu along20:13
sc68calit's more like, oh god why is this so hard20:13
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sc68calI've found blog posts from 2013 about this problem20:13
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Sam-I-Amthere's also what it looks like it does vs. what it actually does20:14
sc68calmost people just set their physical interfaces to jumbo frames to avoid this issue20:14
sc68calaka the sledge hammer to kill a fly option20:14
Sam-I-Amlol20:14
haleybor advertise something like 1400 to the instances20:14
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Sam-I-Amproblem is the things between the vm and the physnet don't understand larger mtus20:15
Sam-I-Amhence why this mtu advertisement spec is half-baked20:15
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Sam-I-Amit gives operators the impression that mtu stuff works, but it really doesnt20:15
haleybSam-I-Am: i don't think the dhcp agent is that smart, just sends the mtu along20:15
sc68calhaleyb: right, but I think the problem Sam-I-Am is describing is that we tell the dhcp agent a wrong value. We should be doing mtu - overhead20:16
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Sam-I-Amhaleyb: lookin at this - https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/type_gre.py#L9320:16
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Sam-I-Amso this is interesting20:21
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haleybSam-I-Am: sorry, interrupted by daughter20:21
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haleybso is there a missing get_mtu() somewhere?  You've probably already figured this out :)20:22
Sam-I-Amadvertise_mtu is needed by the dhcp agent, yet the config option is in neutron.conf20:23
Sam-I-Amso if you dont set it in neutron.conf everywhere the dhcp agent resides, it doesnt work20:23
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Sam-I-Amshouldnt this be a deployment-wide option?20:24
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Sam-I-Amaight, i have my answer about what dnsmasq sends20:25
Sam-I-Amit is path_mtu minus overhead from the driver20:25
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haleybshouldn't a deployer be using the same neutron.conf everywhere?20:25
Sam-I-Amnot necessarily. some things only pertain to the server.20:26
haleybwell, on all network nodes there is one, compute nodes another20:26
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Sam-I-Amyeah20:26
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Sam-I-Amjust having trouble making sense of why some MTU things are in one place, and some in another20:27
openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: OpenVSwitch conntrack based firewall driver  https://review.openstack.org/24933720:27
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jlibosvahaleyb: hi - ^^ I just pushed a new version hopefully addressing your and Sean's comments. Feel free to translate devref to English :) And thank you very much for doing that20:28
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cbouchHenryG: ping20:29
HenryGcbouch: pong20:29
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haleybSam-I-Am: i don't know why that mtu setting is there and not dhcp_agent.ini20:31
Sam-I-Amhaleyb: probably because the l3 agent will use it for RA20:31
Sam-I-Ami dont think the dhcp agent does RA20:31
cbouchHenryG:  I'm trying to do neutron-db-manage.  I did full devstack install.  I applied my db changes to my repo and from neutron repo I'm running --autogenerate.  I'm seeing the error 'FAILED: target data base not up to date'.20:32
haleybSam-I-Am: dnsmasq can, but we run radvd to have the RA come out of the router namespace20:32
Sam-I-Ammakes sense20:33
Sam-I-Amaight, i need to split for a bit20:33
Sam-I-Amthis needs further discussion :)20:33
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haleybjlibosva: ok, i'll take a look and probably do it later tonight20:35
HenryGcbouch: I can help you, but I am in a meeting right now, can we synch up a little later?20:36
cbouchHenryG:  Sounds good. I'll keep reading.20:37
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jlibosvahaleyb: thanks :)20:38
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openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Move neutron.common.rpc into neutron-lib  https://review.openstack.org/26780720:45
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mlavalleblogan_: ping20:58
blogan_mlavalle: ping, i forgot to tell you!20:59
mlavalleblogan_: what did you forget?20:59
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openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Move neutron.common.rpc into neutron-lib  https://review.openstack.org/26780721:00
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ihrachyssc68cal: hey man. wanna clarify you stand on devstack plugin thing. ping me when up.21:13
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sc68calihrachys: here21:15
ihrachyssc68cal: so I saw your response to my email there. I want to understand whether you have a comment on my suggestion to have separate plugins but in the same repo (next to the code that is to be configured).21:16
ihrachysI know devstack currently assumes a single plugin21:16
ihrachysbut that could change if we have agreement on it21:16
sc68calwe'd have to talk with sdague about that21:17
sc68calI'd honestly prefer just separate plugins in separate repos21:17
sc68calso i can enable only what is needed21:17
ihrachyssc68cal: what's the benefit of having it separated? I get the code separation argument, but repo?21:17
amullersc68cal: you can enable only what is needed even you have separate plugins in the same repo21:18
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ihrachyssc68cal: I am all for explicit enablement21:18
ihrachyslet's say we have a way to specify the exact plugin (one of N we have in a repo)21:18
ihrachyswould that be ok for you, or you have concerns above that?21:18
sc68calihrachys: I just like having things small, and discrete21:20
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sc68calthe stuff in neutron/devstack is just going to grow over time, as more things want to be enabled21:21
sc68caltill we get something similar to the neutron-legacy file in devstack21:21
sc68caljust a big mess21:21
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sc68calIt's scary how neutron/devstack/lib looks an awful like devstack/lib/neutron_plugins21:25
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sc68cal*awful lot21:25
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ihrachyssc68cal: sorry, my network connection is flacky. probably missed something from you. let's follow up on email.21:26
sc68calihrachys: ok, give it a couple minutes and it'll land on eavesdrop21:26
ihrachyssc68cal: will be glad to see your reply to the general idea of multiple separate plugins under the same repo there.21:26
sc68calhttp://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-neutron/%23openstack-neutron.2016-01-14.log.html21:26
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ihrachysit often takes ages to update, but yeah, sure21:27
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openstackgerritPaul Michali proposed openstack/neutron-lib: API validators and converters  https://review.openstack.org/25905321:30
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ihrachysamuller: where can I check the current failure rate for multinode?21:31
amullerihrachys: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/dashboards/check.dashboard.html21:32
amullerihrachys: top left image21:32
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ihrachysamuller: aye. so the red line is 'good one', right? the one that we try to achieve?21:33
amullerihrachys: yeah the regular tempest-full job is the baseline21:34
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ihrachysamuller: that failure rate just indicates that some patches are indeed bad? or we actually have the job misbehaving? I would think it's more near to X axis?21:35
ihrachyslooks like 10% failure rate?21:35
amullerihrachys: it's the check queue, so it includes legit failures21:35
amullerihrachys: I've never seen it below 8%21:36
amullerever21:36
ihrachysok, got it21:36
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sc68calihrachys: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-neutron/%23openstack-neutron.2016-01-14.log.html#t2016-01-14T21:21:0721:36
ihrachysamuller: I will run rechecks on https://review.openstack.org/265759 for a while to see how often it fails there for me21:36
amullerihrachys: here's the same job in a different dashboard: http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/job/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full21:36
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ihrachyssc68cal: I wonder what would you like to see it like, if not like lib/neutron-* it's the same bash code to put some ini files, ain't it?21:38
amullerihrachys: and from the gate queue: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/dashboards/gate.dashboard.html, top right, you can see the AIO tempest job has a near zero failure rate21:38
ihrachysapi 10%? wow21:39
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amullerihrachys: we had specific issues with the api job lately21:40
amullerihrachys: it's a moving average it takes it a bit to cool off21:40
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sc68calihrachys: the fact that it's 'just some bash code to put some ini files' doesn't change the issue21:45
sc68calI don't like how it's all lumped together21:45
ihrachyssc68cal: you want each plugin to reimplement adding a new service_plugin, or enabling qos agent extension?21:46
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HenryGcbouch: still around?21:47
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cbouchHenryG: Yes21:48
sc68calihrachys: I don't follow. Where does the devstack plugin implement adding a new service_plugin21:48
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ihrachyssc68cal: ok, not service plugin, but l2 agent extension for sure. that piece is applicable for two agent types so far, and will apply for another this cycle21:49
cbouchHenryG: I got pass that error by doing as doc instructed. empty database and upgrade to heads21:49
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HenryGcbouch: cool21:50
ihrachyssc68cal: I can miss smth. can you point to some specific code that you think is lumped together?21:50
cbouchHenryG: BUT when I run --autogenerate the file it generates has a lot of table_drops21:50
sc68calihrachys: basically plugin.sh21:50
sc68calihrachys: all those if <service or feature enabled>21:50
HenryGcbouch: ok, let me check21:50
cbouchHenryG: When --autogenerate runs it sees that I added some columns but there is nothing in the file it generates.21:50
ihrachyssc68cal: yes, that one sucks.21:51
ihrachyssc68cal: should be solved by separate plugins21:51
ihrachysare there any issues with lib/* contents?21:51
sc68caljust that there's a lot of them. It's not that I don't like them individually21:51
sc68calthey make sense - individually21:51
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sc68calbut I just think they belong in their own repos and plugin21:52
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cbouchHenryG: Tables it is trying to remove is 'alembic_version_lbaas' and 'lbaas_pools' and 'cisco_hosting_device_templates' as an example.  There are more21:52
HenryGcbouch: are you working on master?21:53
ihrachyssc68cal: plugin wise, absolutely (except common pieces that would probably belong to common neutron plugin or even devstack). own repos? not sure. what does it buy us, technically?21:53
sc68calseparation of concerns, encapsulation21:54
cboucha bug branch I created off of master21:54
ihrachyssc68cal: I see a bunch of drawbacks, like harder to reuse code, harder to reshuffle, more gate load21:54
ihrachyssc68cal: do separate repos buy us that though? we have separation in the code without splitting each .py module into a separate repo.21:55
cbouchHenryG: a bug branch I created off of master21:55
sc68calihrachys: I think it does, but we obviously disagree21:55
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sc68caland no I wouldn't split each .py module into a separate repo - that's just trolling21:55
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ihrachyssc68cal: ? it's not trolling, I try to understand what technical benefit you see21:56
sc68calI think the technical benefit is that we don't end up with a big ball of mud under neutron/devstack/  that makes me sad to look at21:57
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sc68caland i'm already sad at what I see in plugin.sh21:57
ihrachysok. I guess it's time to close the discussion. I believe we have some common ground and some disagreement. fine. let's act on the former.21:57
sc68calagree21:57
ihrachysthanks!21:57
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HenryGcbouch: Do you have the very latest master changes from both neutron and your repo?21:58
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cbouchI had pulled this morning but I can repull21:59
HenryGcbouch: I tried it locally and I got only a diff on 'alembic_version' and 'idx_autoinc_vr_id'.22:00
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HenryGcbouch: The first is expected for external projects, the latter should be fixed but is not really a problem.22:02
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cbouchHenryG: still digging22:04
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cbouchHenryG: should I run --autogenerate from neutron or my modified repo?  It doesn't seem to matter as results end up in neutron repo.22:06
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ihrachyssc68cal: speaking of mtu thing, seems like we have a consistent list of tempest tests now that fail in the grenade job (3); and they all fail on ssh using FIP. could be something about gre tunnel under br-ex, will need to look later. but overall looks like it works.22:08
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Sam-I-Amihrachys: hello22:09
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ihrachysSam-I-Am: hey sir22:09
Sam-I-Ami've been messing with the mtu thing too22:09
ihrachysSam-I-Am: tell me22:10
cbouchHenryG:  I will rebuild from scratch in the AM.22:10
Sam-I-Amyou probably figured this out too, but the value sent by the dhcp agent is path_mtu minus the encap overhead22:10
ihrachysSam-I-Am: yes. we set path_mtu to underlying network mtu, and that makes the thing22:11
Sam-I-Amso thats what i'm going to put into the relnotes in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263486/, among other stuff22:11
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Sam-I-Amwe have to be really clear to operators with this thing because its been so confusing in the past22:11
ihrachyswas? it is!22:12
Sam-I-Amalso, setting advertise_mtu=True and path_mtu=0 essentially does nothing, so i'm curious if we should default path_mtu to the common 150022:12
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Sam-I-Amthen most typical deployments that use overlays should just work if they set advertise_mtu22:12
ihrachysSam-I-Am: yeah, it does nothing indeed. that's what I tried to communicate in reno note. probably was not that successful.22:12
ihrachysSam-I-Am: the problem with setting 1500 now is that it makes setups that have underlying network supporting jumbo frames to regress to 1500 mtu22:13
Sam-I-Amtrue, but it would also still work.22:13
ihrachysyeah, but slower. also you never know which apps tenants run in their instances :)22:14
Sam-I-Amtrying to weigh the problems of advertise_mtu doing nothing with path_mtu=0 vs. using some sane value and making sure its explained in the docs.22:14
Sam-I-Ami think a lot of this is making the docs clear22:14
Sam-I-Amrelnotes, config file, and network guide22:14
sc68calihrachys: cool. Don't we also have some sort of mtu thing for the l3 agent too?22:14
ihrachysset Don't Fragment flag to your packets, send a jumbo, and your app stops working22:14
openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Move neutron.common.rpc into neutron-lib  https://review.openstack.org/26780722:15
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Sam-I-Amsc68cal: only when ra adv-mtu gets implemented22:15
HenryGcbouch: Are you specifying the "--subproject networking-cisco" option?22:15
Sam-I-Amit would use the same advertise_mtu option from neutron.conf (eeeeoooo)22:15
HenryGcbouch: the results should end up in the cisco repo tree.22:15
Sam-I-Amalso debating if we should make those separate options and put them into their respective agent config files22:15
cbouchHenryG: Results are not in cisco repo.  Also shoudl I run in cisco repo?22:16
Sam-I-Amits always fun trying to undo the mess from a half-baked implementation22:16
sc68calSam-I-Am: no I was thinking network_device_mtu22:16
Sam-I-Amsc68cal: oh. does that actually work?22:17
sc68caldunno22:17
Sam-I-Ami'd have to dig around, but last i checked it *might* with linuxbridge22:17
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Sam-I-Amtoomanymtuoptions22:17
Sam-I-Ammy head exploded today22:17
sc68cali know :(22:18
tbachmanSam-I-Am: ICMP redirect: word-too-long22:18
ihrachysSam-I-Am: sc68cal: you may learn something from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112523/8/lib/neutron_plugins/ovs_base22:18
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ihrachyssee nova vif driver configured22:18
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Sam-I-Amtbachman: well, yeah, except the problem is that message gets sent to the tunnel endpoint, not the vm22:18
sc68calihrachys: yep. I have on my plate to go look at that patch again22:19
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openstackgerritDariusz Smigiel proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Moving to Keystone v3 API  https://review.openstack.org/25736222:19
ihrachyssc68cal: that code should be implemented in neutron :D22:19
sc68calbut again, it fixes it for devstack22:19
ihrachysI mean, the one inspecting devices22:19
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Sam-I-Ambasically we need one mtu value, and it gets set on every point along the path between the vif and physnet, except where it needs to account for encap overhead22:20
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sc68calright22:20
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Sam-I-Amprobably a config file thing, not an API thing22:20
Sam-I-Amit would be very weird to have different mtu values all over22:21
sc68calugh, but even config files means someone has to go fill it in for us22:21
ihrachyswell, we have that (unimplemented) physical_device_mtus22:21
Sam-I-Amoh, instead of detecting it?22:21
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ihrachysI would vote for killing it and making agent actually checking the devices22:21
sc68calah that's it22:21
sc68cal network_device_mtu22:22
sc68calthat might be the issue with FIPs22:22
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Sam-I-Amsc68cal: what is that actually setting?22:22
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sc68calSam-I-Am: the mtu22:23
sc68calin the DVR agent - it uses it to set it22:23
sc68calhttps://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/agent/l3/dvr_fip_ns.py#L22922:23
sc68calso, i think it's just that in the multinode case we need to set it too22:23
sc68calsince a FIP traffic could be sent over the GRE tunnel that we have between nodes in the multinode grenade job22:24
Sam-I-Amhmmm, thats nice and vague22:24
sc68calsimilar to haleyb 's comment ealier about sometimes it worked or not, based on if the instance got scheduled on primary node or subnode22:24
Sam-I-Amthat definitely smells of an mtu problem22:24
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cbouchHenryG:  Could it be that I have 'enable-service q-lbaas' in my local.conf but I'm not really configuring it anywhere?22:25
Sam-I-Amfrom what i was reading, there's a gre tunnel built off br-ex with an mtu of 1450?22:25
ihrachyssc68cal: yeah, I told amuller today before it could be explained by schedulig22:25
Swamisc68cal: that is worth testing it out, by setting the mtu for the gre tunnels in the multinode setup.22:25
HenryGcbouch: that could be it22:25
ihrachysSam-I-Am: yes, 1450 on br-ex22:25
ihrachysset in devstack-gate I think22:25
Sam-I-Amso, basically replicate the multi-node setup in my lab, because my lab is all public cloud22:25
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HenryGcbouch: give this a try: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/devref/alembic_migrations.html#running-neutron-db-manage-without-devstack22:26
Sam-I-Amadd a host vxlan interface as a port on br-ex rather than using OVS to make a tunnel and do not set MTU there. the instances already have a smaller MTU because they attach to a vxlan project network.22:26
Sam-I-Amso it seems like you wouldn't need to set the mtu again if br-ex attaches to a tunnel22:27
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HenryGcbouch: you can probably skip to http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/devref/alembic_migrations.html#create-and-activate-the-virtualenv22:28
haleybSam-I-Am: sorry, i haven't been paying complete attention, but in the FIP case with DVR it should work regardless of where the instance gets placed, since the router should be local, but i still think you're onto something22:28
Sam-I-Amhaleyb: yeah. if you attach a fip to a dvr'd VM, the fip and router live on the same host, no tunneling.22:29
HenryGcbouch: and run test-db-manage from your repo's py27 virtual env.22:29
Sam-I-Aminter-vm and vm-dhcpagent could be more interesting22:30
Sam-I-Amor vm with a fixed ip testing outbound connectivity22:30
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haleybSam-I-Am: right, and the DVR multinode job has issues too22:30
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Sam-I-Amhaleyb: probably because br-ex is tunneled at the host level22:31
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Swamihaleyb: but in this case even if you have a FIP, the external connectivity to the fip namespace is through a GRE tunnel between the primary and the secondary.22:31
Sam-I-Amso if the test has to traverse the br-ex gre tunnel, it breaks22:31
cbouchHenryG: Still reading22:31
openstackgerritGerman Eichberger proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Adds i18n for logging  https://review.openstack.org/26784422:32
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haleybSwami: i hadn't though of that, yes, that would cause issues22:33
Sam-I-Ami think we said the same thing :)22:33
Swamihaleyb: it worth adding an mtu to the gre tunnel interfaces between the nodes.22:33
Sam-I-Amthere is22:33
Swamis/it/its22:34
Sam-I-Amproblem is tempest likely doesnt see that mtu22:34
Sam-I-Ami gotta run for a bit22:34
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cbouchHenryG:  I'm going to have to run with a full install soon so I'll have to face this issue again. Right?22:35
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ihrachysSam-I-Am: haleyb: sc68cal: I put up https://review.openstack.org/267847 to validate the hypothesis22:40
sc68calI don't think depends-on works for devstack gate patches. Or is that project-config?22:41
openstackgerritReedip proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: FW CLIs do not show all options in help  https://review.openstack.org/23451822:42
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cbouchHenryG:  I reinstall without feature q-lbaas and see what happens.  I have to leave and will continue in AM.  TTYL22:42
ihrachyssc68cal: it should. I think only infra does not like it since it needs to regenerate jobs22:42
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openstackgerritSean M. Collins proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: [WIP] Firewall v2 database  https://review.openstack.org/26654822:42
HenryGcbouch: sounds good, let me know how it goes22:43
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openstackgerritBrian Haley proposed openstack/neutron: Change order of checks in _validate_ip_address() to pass on OSX  https://review.openstack.org/26785022:43
sc68calihrachys: ack. The one thing is, since the GRE tunnels were created outside of neutron, it's debatable if neutron should try and figure out MTUs for all segments22:43
ihrachyssc68cal: it could probably check mtu on br-ex22:44
sc68caltrue22:44
Sam-I-Amyep22:44
ihrachyssc68cal: but I would be happy nevertheless if configuration is enough :P22:44
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haleyb+122:44
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sc68calyeah it's kind of like, if devstack-gate creates the GRE tunnel between the nodes, it should configure the MTUs for neutron?22:45
sc68calit works for the nova-net case though, so does nova-net somehow handle it?22:45
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Sam-I-Amthats a good question22:46
Sam-I-Ambe interesting to see nova-net mtus22:46
haleybpeople still run nova -net? ;-)22:48
ihrachysdo they maybe actually inspect the devices? :)22:48
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Sam-I-Amit would be nice if we could see the mtu of all the things22:52
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ihrachys_Sam-I-Am: http://logs.openstack.org/59/265759/8/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-dvr-multinode-full/ec455db/logs/worlddump-2016-01-14-215446.txt.gz ?22:55
ihrachys_you can search for "ip addr"22:55
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: DO NOT MERGE: Advertise network mtu using DHCP  https://review.openstack.org/26575922:58
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Make DHCP agent scheduler physical_network aware  https://review.openstack.org/20563123:15
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ZZelle_carl_baldwin, ^^23:16
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openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Move neutron.common.rpc into neutron-lib  https://review.openstack.org/26780723:23
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carl_baldwinZZelle_: ack23:24
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openstackgerritBrian Haley proposed openstack/neutron: DVR: when updating port's fixed_ips, update arp  https://review.openstack.org/26377223:25
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Pass environment variables of proxy to tox  https://review.openstack.org/26664223:40
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Adopt oslotest BaseTestCase as a base class for DietTestCase  https://review.openstack.org/26415823:42
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