Monday, 2016-01-04

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mspreitz_Sam-I-Am: just to make sure I am not crazy - from a Neutron router's network namespace I should be able to ARP and PING $PUBLIC_NETWORK_GATEWAY --- right?00:41
mspreitz_(this is when using DevStack to install Neutron with ML2, OVS, and GRE, for example)00:41
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mspreitz_Running stack.sh leaves me with one router, connected to one provider network and one tenant network.00:42
mspreitz_but that router's network namespace fails to see a response to an ARP request for $PUBLIC_NETWORK_GATEWAY00:42
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mspreitz_anybody?   ^^^00:42
Sam-I-Amit should work00:45
Sam-I-Amthat bridge lives on the 'ext' interface, right?00:45
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Sam-I-Amaight, broncos finally won00:47
Sam-I-Amthat was one hell of a nail biter00:47
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mspreitz_The two Neutron networks are named "public" and "private".  The OVS bridge named br-ex has eth0 attached.00:52
Sam-I-Amdid you enable promisc mode on the vm's ext net vif?00:52
Sam-I-Amotherwise vbox enables mac filtering00:52
mspreitz_Oh!  That's probably it.  I forgot to enable promisc mode on eth0.00:53
mspreitz_dang, back to square one.00:53
mspreitz_Good thing I am using cloning liberally.00:53
Sam-I-Amits a vbox setting, not on eth0 itself00:54
mspreitz_Ah, it looks like I can change it dynamically...00:54
Sam-I-Amyep00:55
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mspreitz_So I changed the promisc mode setting in VirtualBox to Allow All.  But still the router's network ns can not ARP the $PUBLIC_NETWORK_GATEWAY00:56
mspreitz_Could there be some lingering ill effect from the earlier wrong setting?00:56
Sam-I-Amis the arp escaping eth0?00:57
mspreitz_`sudo tcpdump -nne -i eth0 arp` on the VM finds the ARP requests.  That is progress from my previous failed state...00:58
mspreitz_I can check farther out ...00:58
Sam-I-Amdo you see them on the underlying interface that vbox bridges into the vm's eth0?00:59
mspreitz_Haven't looked there yet.  The router sees the requests and issues replies.01:00
Sam-I-Amwell that usually means mac filtering is disabled01:00
Sam-I-Amotherwise the arp reqs wouldnt escape01:01
mspreitz_the virtual net between router and DevStack host is not bridged onto physical, it is a VBox "internal" net.01:01
Sam-I-Amoh, hmm... haven't used an internal net before01:02
Sam-I-Amaight its dinner time here, back in a bit01:02
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Sam-I-Ammspreitz_: hows it going?02:03
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mspreitz_Sam-I-Am: I guessed there was a lingering ill effect and started over.  It just finished.  Now I will test.02:04
mspreitz_Hooray!  It works!02:06
Sam-I-Amwooo02:06
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openstackgerritli,chen proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Replace string format arguments with function parameters  https://review.openstack.org/25929002:18
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openstackgerritli,chen proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Make security-group-rule-create accept "any" protocol  https://review.openstack.org/25934502:40
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openstackgerritli,chen proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Make security-group-rule-create accept "any" protocol  https://review.openstack.org/25934503:19
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openstackgerritcaoyue proposed openstack/neutron: Python 3 deprecated the logger.warn method in favor of warning  https://review.openstack.org/26264403:37
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openstackgerritli,chen proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Make security-group-rule-create accept "any" protocol  https://review.openstack.org/25934504:10
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openstackgerritli,chen proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Make security-group-rule-create accept "any" protocol  https://review.openstack.org/25934504:25
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/26313906:28
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: Add FT for remove_router_from_l3_agent  https://review.openstack.org/26314506:37
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openstackgerrityalei wang proposed openstack/neutron: Add new limit_portsec_domain attr for port  https://review.openstack.org/25003606:44
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openstackgerritLIU Yulong proposed openstack/neutron: Catch exceptions in HA router race conditions  https://review.openstack.org/26030308:48
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openstackgerritBo Chi proposed openstack/neutron: Check whether new gateway ip is in use when update subnet  https://review.openstack.org/25892808:54
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/neutron: Keep py3.X compatibility for urllib  https://review.openstack.org/26120009:47
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ndipanovmorning folks hny10:23
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matrohonanilvenkata, hi10:24
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openstackgerritBo Chi proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor test_attributes.py (part 1)  https://review.openstack.org/26319910:29
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mhickeyGood morning10:46
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davidshaajo: ping10:49
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anilvenkatamatrohon: Hi10:56
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matrohonanilvenkata, I saw your last comments on https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/144342110:58
openstackLaunchpad bug 1443421 in openstack-ansible trunk "After VM migration, tunnels not getting removed with L2Pop ON, when using multiple api_workers in controller" [High,Confirmed]10:58
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anilvenkatamatrohon: ok10:59
matrohonanilvenkata, do you suggest that the bug is invalid?10:59
anilvenkatamatrohon: yes11:00
anilvenkatamatrohon: I am unable to reproduce11:00
matrohonanilvenkata, looking at the code I think it's not invalid, but it's only hard to reproduce11:00
anilvenkatamatrohon: I tried with both nova migrate" and "nova live-migration11:00
matrohonanilvenkata, can you recall me the difference?11:01
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matrohonanilvenkata, migrate is shutting down the VM?11:01
anilvenkatamatrohon: yes11:01
matrohonanilvenkata, ok thanks. So I think it should only happen with live-migrate11:02
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anilvenkatamatrohon: openstack dos says there are two ways to migrate - non-live and live11:02
anilvenkatamatrohon: I tried both to reproduce the issue11:03
anilvenkatamatrohon: but couldn't. I pinged bug reporter, he said "I have used ESX as compute. So Vcenter gives me an option to migrate VM one host to another host. The migration is triggered from vcenter using vMotion."11:04
anilvenkatamatrohon: I couldn't understand from him wether he used nova migrate or nova live-migration11:04
matrohonanilvenkata, just use live-migrate, migrate will put the iface down, which result in tearing down the tunnel11:05
matrohonanilvenkata, I guess at least11:05
anilvenkatamatrohon: As I updated in bug we need nova resize-confirm after nova migrate to teardown the tunnels11:06
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matrohonanilvenkata, don't know about the resize-confirm, I've never dug into the "migrate" code of nova11:08
anilvenkatamatrohon: ok11:08
matrohonanilvenkata, but I think we can assume that vMotion is implemented as a live-migrate11:09
anilvenkatamatrohon: ok11:09
matrohonanilvenkata, gtg let's keep discussing this case later11:10
matrohonanilvenkata, thanks for working on that, I'll try to help11:10
anilvenkatamatrohon: sure, thanks11:10
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-vpnaas: LOG.warn -> LOG.warning  https://review.openstack.org/26272811:14
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/26290811:17
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openstackgerritDongcan Ye proposed openstack/neutron: Check missed ip6tables utility  https://review.openstack.org/26245711:23
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openstackgerritNikola Dipanov proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: port: Add 'direct-physical' as a valid vnic-type  https://review.openstack.org/26244311:46
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openstackgerritPaul Michali proposed openstack/neutron-lib: API validators and converters  https://review.openstack.org/25905312:51
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gongyshvikram__, hi12:59
vikram__gongysh: hello12:59
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gongyshI have a question about integration between onos and neutron.12:59
vikram__yes13:00
vikram__tell me13:00
gongyshDo we use vtn app or openstackswitching app?13:00
vikram__in onos we have vtn app13:00
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vikram__networking-onos connects to vtn13:00
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gongyshvikram__, yes, but we also have openstackswitching https://wiki.onosproject.org/display/ONOS/SONA+Architecture13:01
vikram__gongysh: ok, i see13:01
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vikram__gongysh: IMO, networking-onos should not worry13:02
gongyshactually, I cannot see the wiki about onos-vtn13:02
vikram__gongysh: just need to change the controller url info13:02
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vikram__i am not sure from onos side..13:02
vikram__will check and let you know13:02
gongyshok, very kind of you.13:03
vikram__we have an ONOS team13:03
gongyshvikram__, I think the northbound API will be different.13:03
vikram__will check with them13:03
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vikram__is it?13:03
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vikram__gongysh: I think we should have uniform NBI's13:05
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vikram__gongysh: networking-onos can't support separate NBI's per application13:05
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gongyshvikram__,  however, it seems we have two openstack integration way from onos.13:07
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gongyshvikram__, their NBI are different. networking-onos will select vtn.13:08
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vikram__gongysh: then how about other app?13:08
vikram__gongysh: how it will be connected to neutron?13:09
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gongyshvikram__,  what other app, do u mean the other apps in onos?13:09
vikram__https://wiki.onosproject.org/display/ONOS/SONA+Architecture13:09
vikram__ openstackswitching13:09
vikram__gongysh: how  openstackswitching  will connect?13:09
gongyshthe other apps in https://wiki.onosproject.org/display/ONOS/SONA+Architecture except openstackswitching are not implemented.13:10
vikram__okay..13:10
vikram__but IMO, we must have common NBI's exposed from networking-onos13:10
vikram__we can discuss this with ON-Lab13:11
gongyshhow to discuss with ON-lab?13:11
gongyshvia email list or slack?13:11
gongyshbut anyway, I like the picture at  https://wiki.onosproject.org/display/ONOS/SONA+Architecture .13:12
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gongyshvikram__, one more question, why not use an independent core plugin instead of the mechanism driver?13:22
vikram__gongysh: We developed as per VTN requirement13:23
vikram__BTW, mechanism driver has less overhead..13:24
gongyshvikram__,  networking-ovn connverted to use standalone core plugin from mechanism driver.13:25
vikram__gongysh: We can do this in future13:26
gongyshok13:26
vikram__gongysh: ONOS still new and evolving13:26
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vikram__gongysh: how to discuss with ON-lab?13:26
gongyshvikram__,  ovn, odl, onos are all new and evolving.13:27
vikram__gongysh: I mean the support for openstack has just arrived13:27
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vikram__gongysh: We can improve going forward13:27
gongyshvikram__,  sure13:27
vikram__gongysh: It's good to have you on-board.. We can together make it better13:28
vikram__gongysh: About ONLab, will check with the team and let you know by next week13:28
gongyshvikram__, onos is attracting, it itself needs more talents to get it roll.13:29
gongyshvikram__, that is nice. thanks13:29
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openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Pecan: Streamline request body processing  https://review.openstack.org/24268013:34
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openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Scope get_tenant_quotas by tenant_id  https://review.openstack.org/23385513:39
openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Pecan: Always associate plugins with resource  https://review.openstack.org/26043913:40
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openstackgerritNikola Dipanov proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: port: Add 'direct-physical' as a valid vnic-type  https://review.openstack.org/26244313:49
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dasmgood day13:51
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openstackgerritJames Page proposed openstack/neutron: Ensure that tunnels are fully reset on ovs restart  https://review.openstack.org/25948514:07
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openstackgerritzhangguoqing proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Change LOG.warn to LOG.warning  https://review.openstack.org/26327214:08
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sambettsHenryG: has something merged recently thats causing this http://logs.openstack.org/35/258035/2/gate/gate-networking-cisco-python27/9cb85c6/console.html#_2016-01-04_14_07_30_791 ??14:10
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HenryGsambetts: let me check14:11
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HenryGsambetts: I think that is something already known, see https://review.openstack.org/25395714:19
openstackgerritYatin Kumbhare proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Fix for the deprecated library function  https://review.openstack.org/26328114:20
sambettsHenryG: that fix has been squashed into the Revert patch, and its still failing14:20
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openstackgerritJames Page proposed openstack/neutron: Ensure that tunnels are fully reset on ovs restart  https://review.openstack.org/25948514:58
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openstackgerritJames Page proposed openstack/neutron: Ensure that tunnels are fully reset on ovs restart  https://review.openstack.org/25948515:04
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openstackgerritabregman proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Allow to use system rootwrap  https://review.openstack.org/25466815:24
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openstackgerritMathieu Rohon proposed openstack/neutron: Avoid duplicating tenant check when creating resources  https://review.openstack.org/24198415:38
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openstackgerritJas Singh proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: fix: can't get authentication with os-token and os-url  https://review.openstack.org/26333716:46
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Kilo initial migration  https://review.openstack.org/23993116:51
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regXboikevinbenton: ping16:55
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/neutron: Replace deprecated LOG.warn with warning  https://review.openstack.org/26334717:02
openstackgerritJas Singh proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: fix: can't get authentication with os-token and os-url  https://review.openstack.org/26333717:02
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davidshanjohnston: ping17:11
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openstackgerritAssaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Remove L2populationDbMixin parent  https://review.openstack.org/26336117:35
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garykarmax: sorry will not make it to the meeting tonight17:56
armaxgaryk: there’s no meeting, and no need to be sorry17:56
armaxamuller: it looks like the gate is busted due to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256164/17:57
garykok, thanks for the update.17:57
amullerarmax: aye looking in to it17:57
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: SR-IOV agent: display loaded extensions  https://review.openstack.org/25909217:58
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Remove openstack.common._i18n from Neutron  https://review.openstack.org/26134517:58
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amullerarmax: the solution is to sync from Tempest. The auth code (In Tempest) was moved from Tempest to tempest_lib18:01
amullertempest_lib uses the up to date conf options18:01
amullerso if we sync from Tempest to our Neutron fork we'll be good to go18:01
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armaxamuller: cool, you got a patch handy for now?18:01
amullerarmax: we could do a partial sync to get us unborked, last time I tried to use Maru's script for a full sync it was messy18:01
amullerarmax: no, I'll work on it18:01
amullerarmax: just spent a bit of time figuring out how we want to solve this issue18:01
armaxamuller: indeed18:02
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Sam-I-Amhowdy folks18:15
Sam-I-Amrecovering from the holidays?18:15
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Sam-I-Amsc68cal: moo.18:16
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regXboiamuller, carl_baldwin: ping19:11
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regXboiand happy new year everybody :)19:12
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SwamiregXboi: happy new year to you19:12
mlavalleregXboi: happy new year to you too!19:12
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carl_baldwinregXboi: pong (and happy new year)19:14
regXboicarl_baldwin, amuller: I've updated https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1526559 with my findings from master19:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1526559 in neutron "L3 agent parallel configuration of routers might slow things down" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to Ryan Moats (rmoats)19:14
Sam-I-AmregXboi: hey!19:14
Sam-I-Amits coming alive again in here19:15
openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Test patch to address the live-migration (DO-NOT-MERGE)  https://review.openstack.org/25917119:15
carl_baldwinregXboi: Looking...19:15
regXboiugh - brb - VPN being annoying19:16
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: (WIP)Agent side change for vm migration with floatingip  https://review.openstack.org/26073819:18
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openstackgerritAssaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Use Tempest auth file from tempest_lib  https://review.openstack.org/26340019:28
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amullercarl_baldwin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263400/ may unbreak the 'api' gate19:29
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amullercarl_baldwin: if it does I'll just approve it myself tbh =p19:29
carl_baldwinamuller: looking...19:29
carl_baldwinamuller: It deletes a bunch of stuff...19:30
carl_baldwin... I like it.19:30
regXboiless is more :)19:30
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amullerthe way we have so much tempest code forked is screwing us19:30
carl_baldwinI'm willing to +2 now without test results.19:31
regXboiagreed19:31
regXboihas kevinbenton dropped in?19:31
amullercarl_baldwin: that patch works for me locally but I didn't stack.sh the VM since the devstack patch19:31
amullercarl_baldwin: so hopefully it'll work at the gate and fix the breakage19:31
* carl_baldwin doesn't mind using the automated test suite as a safety net sometimes.19:32
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amullerregXboi: hey thanks for your work on https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1526559!19:36
openstackLaunchpad bug 1526559 in neutron "L3 agent parallel configuration of routers might slow things down" [Undecided,Invalid] - Assigned to Ryan Moats (rmoats)19:36
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regXboiamuller: yw19:36
kevinbentonregXboi: hey, boarding a plane19:36
kevinbentonregXboi: what's up?19:36
regXboikevinbenton: no worries - I have answers on your patch set questions from last month19:37
amullerregXboi: still a mystery to me what was special on that setup I was playing with, where the CPU usage just jumped and choke the machine19:37
regXboikevinbenton: we can sync tomorrow or later this week19:37
regXboiamuller: ack19:37
kevinbentonregXboi: sounds good. I'll be on tomorrow19:37
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regXboikevinbenton: ack19:37
regXboikevinbenton: travel safe19:37
kevinbentonThx19:38
Sam-I-Amhowdy kevinbenton19:38
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kevinbentonSam-I-Am: yo. Door will be closing shortly so I only have a minute or so19:40
sc68calkevinbenton: safe flight19:40
Sam-I-Amkevinbenton: just saying hi19:40
Sam-I-Amor welcome back to the fun :)19:41
kevinbentonsc68cal: thx, you make it to SJC?19:41
kevinbentonSam-I-Am: ah, hi to you too :)19:41
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sc68calkevinbenton: yup. i'm in the office now19:43
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sc68calmestery: super late pong20:03
Sam-I-Amsc68cal: you must be using carrier pigeons20:04
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openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Support rootwrap sysctl and conntrack commands for non-l3 nodes  https://review.openstack.org/25845220:07
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mspreitz_How does a Neutron user control MTU?  I ask because I am testing http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/guides/neutron.html#adding-additional-compute-nodes and running into MTU problems.20:15
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mesterysc68cal: lol. Was just a comment on your comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192712/ (the video link). Made me lol :)20:17
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Sam-I-Ammestery: i got a lulz out of that too20:21
Sam-I-Ammspreitz_: good question :)20:21
mspreitz_I looked at the `neutron help` for net-create, subnet-create, and port-create --- none of it mentions MTU!20:22
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mspreitz_And, of course, it's all wrong.  1500 everywhere.  Not good when tunelling.20:22
kbringardthat's hilarious20:22
Sam-I-Ammspreitz_: there are mtu settings in the config files20:22
Sam-I-Amthe api stuff was apparently never implemented20:22
Sam-I-Amthis is on my list of "things that claim to work but actually dont work"20:23
sc68calmestery: :)20:23
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Sam-I-Ammspreitz_: https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/kilo/mtu-selection-and-advertisement.html20:23
Sam-I-Ammspreitz_: if you look at the patches, none of them really seem to make the goes.20:23
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mspreitz_And my next questions will probably be about GRO/TSO/etc.  I am told these are bad for routers and good for leaf nodes.  But DevStack likes to make a node that is both.20:26
Sam-I-Ambeen there :)20:27
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Sam-I-Ammspreitz_: a lot of that is driver-dependent20:36
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Sam-I-Amplus messing with those settings for things like bridges20:36
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openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Routed networks  https://review.openstack.org/22538420:37
Sam-I-Ami tracked some weird issues with openstack-ansible (particularly gating on all-in-ones) to offload issues20:37
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sc68calSam-I-Am: isn't networking fun?20:55
openstackgerritRyan Moats proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Add multi-node devstack support to VPNaaS  https://review.openstack.org/25750420:56
Sam-I-Amsc68cal: YES20:56
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Sam-I-Amsc68cal: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263423/20:57
Sam-I-Amwheeeee20:57
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regXboiSam-I-Am, pc_m: ^^^^^^20:57
sc68calSam-I-Am: neat.jpg20:57
Sam-I-Amaight, i gotta split... airport travel time20:58
pc_mregXboi: Will look at during the neutorn mtg20:58
Sam-I-AmregXboi: i'll try to look at that during airports20:58
regXboipc_m: I thought the neutron meeting was canceled?!20:58
mspreitz_Yes, I would like to see the networking guide versioned.20:58
regXboiSam-I-Am: travel safe20:58
pc_mregXboi: Could be... I didn't check20:58
sc68calSam-I-Am: safe travels20:58
Sam-I-AmregXboi: thx. leaving the texas!20:58
Sam-I-Ammspreitz_: we're working on it20:58
mspreitz_thanks!20:59
sc68calmspreitz_: can you hop on -qa and chat about your issues with 15.x and devstack?21:00
mspreitz_OK21:00
russellbis there a meeting today?21:00
russellblooks like my calendar is just wrong, carry on.21:00
pc_mregXboi: I guess it is cancelled. :(21:00
russellbi think it's tomorrow21:01
regXboiit's canceled: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/083203.html21:02
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-neutronclient: Use _i18n instead of i18n  https://review.openstack.org/25099221:02
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pc_mrussellb: Scheduled for today. Armando cancelled.21:06
russellbahg k21:06
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-neutronclient: Add method to retrieve loadbalancer stats  https://review.openstack.org/17894721:09
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-neutronclient: Support for Name field in Members and HMs  https://review.openstack.org/24607721:09
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-neutronclient: Add protocol value options to sg-rule-create  https://review.openstack.org/25685821:12
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openstackgerritRyan Moats proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor router delete processing  https://review.openstack.org/25150221:13
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openstackgerritRyan Rossiter proposed openstack/neutron: DNM: Add test for Neutron object versions  https://review.openstack.org/26344221:19
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openstackgerritAssaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Don't spawn then kill keepalived when deleting an HA router  https://review.openstack.org/25972821:37
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openstackgerritSlawek Kaplonski proposed openstack/neutron: Add checking if qos extension driver is setup when Qos service pluing is used  https://review.openstack.org/25385322:09
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openstackgerritAkihiro Motoki proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add some items to the release notes  https://review.openstack.org/26346922:43
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openstackgerritAssaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Remove l2pop _get_port_infos method  https://review.openstack.org/26347122:53
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amullercarl_baldwin: HenryG: Sorry my 'fix' didn't solve the issue, I'm unstacking and restacking a VM now to reproduce the issue the gate is experiencing so I can properly test my fix locally23:01
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amullershould've done that originally =/23:01
carl_baldwinamuller: :(  The simple fix was worth a try.  If it doesn't make things worse, I'd still be fine with it going in.23:02
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openstackgerritAkihiro Motoki proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add some items to the release notes  https://review.openstack.org/26346923:32
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openstackgerritAkihiro Motoki proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Use six.python_2_unicode_compatible for NeutronException.__str__  https://review.openstack.org/25514023:35
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openstackgerritAkihiro Motoki proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Use six.python_2_unicode_compatible for NeutronException.__str__  https://review.openstack.org/25514023:39
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mspreitz_Why does neutron.conf default advertise_mtu = False?  That seems just user-hostile.23:45
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sc68calmspreitz_: I'd have to look it up, but my guess is that it was a new feature, so not supported universally23:47
mspreitz_sc68cal: ah, that would explain it23:47
sc68calmspreitz_: however it may be worth revisiting23:47
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sc68calmspreitz_: the key is to get more sane defaults over time23:48
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sc68calmspreitz_: not push it on deployers and provisioning tools23:48
mspreitz_If advertise_mtu is not implemented, then how is a reasonable MTU supposed to happen?  I see some code about subtracting overhead, and a correct setting for overhead, and yet I still have MTUs of 150023:49
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sc68calmspreitz_: MTUs in neutron are kind of sore subjects. There's so many different ways to get it "right" that I think we suffer from too many knobs to configure to accomplish the same objective23:50
mspreitz_As far as I can tell, there is no way for a Neutron user to put an MTU on a network, subnet, or port.23:50
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sc68calmspreitz_: right. but a user of the API shouldn't care about that kind of detail23:50
mspreitz_So advertising the MTU from a network, subnet, or port would be useless anway23:50
sc68calideally the infrastructure has MTUs set to sane sizes - usually bigger values for the phyiscal devices, and smaller for virtual23:50
mspreitz_I agree, it would be best if the client does not have to set MTUs23:51
sc68calif I were a deployer I guess I'd throw my hands up and just jumbo frame, and leave neutron MTUs alone23:51
mspreitz_So I see logic about subtracting overhead, and I see a correct def of a constant for the overhead, and yet the MTUs are all 150023:51
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sc68calmspreitz_: are you using vlan, vxlan?23:53
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mspreitz_ML2, OVS, VLXAN23:53
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mspreitz_I'm working the doc'd scenario for devstack, neutron, two nodes23:53
sc68calmspreitz_: ack. I see plenty of get_mtu function definitions.... the question is are they actually called anywhere23:54
HenryGamuller: I just spent a few minutes poking around in the tempest failures. Looks like the tempest configs have diverged drastically from what is in neutron :(23:54
amullerHenryG: yeah it's not gonna be simple =/23:54
amullerHenryG: I'm working on a partial sync from the Tempest repo23:54
amullerit's kinda tricky23:54
HenryGamuller: is it time to drop the API job from neutron and use the tempest one only?23:54
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amullerHenryG: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-tempest-defork23:55
amullerHenryG: I have a plan, I was going to talk to armax and mtreinish this week after the holidays23:55
HenryGamuller: ouch23:55
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amulleroh I see mtreinish commented on it23:56
amullerHenryG: I'm starting to think we may need to temporarily disable the Neutron API job, I don't know if I'll be able to come up with a quick fix in the next couple of hours23:56
sc68calmspreitz_: I think the issue is that someone just put in the attributes... but they're not actually used anywhere. http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/kilo/mtu-selection-and-advertisement.html23:56
sc68calmspreitz_: unless I am mistaken, there was never any work done to actually get LB or OVS to the point where it actually picks optimum MTUs23:57
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HenryGamuller: where did mtreinish comment?23:58
amullerHenryG: from lines 454+23:58
sc68calmspreitz_: you should write something on openstack-dev tagged with Neutron - it certainly is a piece of work that needs to be done, if it hasn't.23:59

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