Wednesday, 2015-09-30

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armaxZZelle: you still alive and kicking?00:05
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Test patch [NOT FOR REVIEW]  https://review.openstack.org/22919200:16
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openstackgerritMiguel Lavalle proposed openstack/neutron: External DNS driver reference implementation  https://review.openstack.org/21221300:44
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reedipsc68cal : Ping00:49
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openstackgerritReedip proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Fix argument order for assertEqual to (expected, observed)  https://review.openstack.org/22873001:08
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Changes in Neutron bug management  https://review.openstack.org/22873301:16
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thanhnt-zhi mkoderer, are you there? Could you please help me?02:18
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openstackgerritBrian Haley proposed openstack/neutron: Add IPDevice.exists() method  https://review.openstack.org/22901002:38
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HenryGarmax: pong03:07
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thanhnt-zhi haleyb03:20
thanhnt-zhi haleyb, are you there? Could you please help me?03:20
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openstackgerritHenry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron: Add devref for alembic milestone tagging  https://review.openstack.org/22902803:26
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armaxHenryG: yo03:29
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HenryGarmax: were you looking for me?03:30
armaxHenryG: just wanted to give you a heads-up on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229189/ but you saw that already03:30
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reedipHi HenryG,armax, I have a query related to Neutron , and would like to have some inputs, if possible03:34
armaxreedip: shoot03:34
reediparmax, HenryG : Its more related to Neutron-Firewall Services,if its ok with you03:35
reediparmax: I am able to set Firewall for Source Version of type IPv4 and Destination Version of type IPv603:35
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reediparmax: I wanted to know if dualstack is supported in openstack?03:35
armaxreedip: that’s a good question…I am afraid I wouldn’t know on the top of my head03:36
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armaxreedip: but assuming that no test continuosly validates what you’re specifically are after, then the answer is mostly likely ‘it should, but it needs to be verified'03:37
reediparmax: Ok03:37
openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Distributed DHCP Agents  https://review.openstack.org/20542903:38
reediparmax: Its actually a bit tricky for an IPv4 source to send a packet to destination having IPv6 address03:38
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reedipgongysh:ping03:39
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armaxreedip: true, I suspect that it doesn’t work03:41
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HenryGreedip: armax: I don't think there is any way to set up a FW or SG rule for that either03:42
HenryGBut check with haleyb or sridarK03:43
reedip@HenryG,@armax: But I am able to set the IPv4 address as source and IPv6 address as destination03:43
HenryGreedip: in a rule?03:43
reedipHenryG: Yup03:43
armaxreedip: best strategy forward IMO would be to write a test, if you’re into hardcore stuff ;)03:44
armaxand see what breaks and how03:44
reediparmax: So sending a TCP packet from an IPv4 source to an IPv6 destination?03:44
armaxreedip: well, scenario testing for fwaas are lacking at the moment03:45
armaxreedip: so it wouldn’t be very straightforward03:46
armaxreedip: the functional machinery that we have avaialable for neutron is also lacking in neutron-fwaas so no much help there either03:46
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reediparmax: first I think we should check if a source with IPv4 address can be forwarded to IPv6 destination03:47
reediparmax: If that is not possible, then the firewall rules can be modified to handle this scenario03:47
gongyshreedip: pong03:48
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reedipHi gongysh, same query for you too, if you are following the above chat03:49
reedipgongysh: can an IPv4 source send a packet to an IPv6 destination ( that is possible in real life thanks to NAT) in Openstack?03:49
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HenryGreedip: A single packet cannot be a mix of IPv4 source and IPv6 destination, of course03:51
HenryGreedip: You could use 4in6 or NAT64, but you would need to do that outside of openstack, and openstack would see only the IPv6 result03:52
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openstackgerritgongysh proposed openstack/neutron: Fix URL target problem  https://review.openstack.org/22923303:55
reedip@HenryG: Thanks for the input03:55
gongyshHenryG: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229233/103:56
thanhnt-zhi afazekas, are you there? Could you please help me?03:56
gongyshI failed to build docs without it.03:56
HenryGgongysh: done03:57
reedip@armax, henryg,gongysh : yes NAT will be useful to mix both IPv4 and IPv6 address in a TCP packet ( using various options). If it is not possible in openstack for now, then it seems creating a firewall rule with mixed attributes is not right, for now,03:57
armaxreedip: yes03:57
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armaxif the logical model/api allows you to do that, it might as well be an oversight03:58
armaxwhen it comes to ipv4 vs ipv6 that’s usually the case03:58
armaxas ipv6 came a while after ipv6 so the latter is still catching up03:58
armaxdualstacks are themselves yet another can of worms03:59
reedip@armax: yes I know :)03:59
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armaxreedip: I bet you do03:59
HenryGreedip: if you submit such a rule, how does iptables look for it?03:59
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reedipHenryG: good point, I havent checked the iptables yet. Let me verify the iptables information04:00
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HenryGarmax: reedip: My bed calls. ttyl04:08
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armaxHenryG: have a good one04:08
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reedipHenryg: Good Night04:09
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thanhnt-zhi yamamoto, are you there? Could you please help me?04:31
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Fix hyperlink syntax  https://review.openstack.org/22923804:32
thanhnt-zyamamoto: Now I am fixing this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1427015  I change permission or Non-admin user with DHCP port: Non-admin user cannot update DHCP port.04:33
openstackLaunchpad bug 1427015 in neutron "too many subnet-create cause q-dhcp failure" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to NGUYEN TUONG THANH (thanhnt-z)04:33
thanhnt-zyamamoto: When I delete a subnet that is enabled DHCP, it means I am updating a DHCP port because I change "fixed_ips" attribute of this port, as you can see here: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/ml2/plugin.py#L96404:34
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thanhnt-zyamamoto: So now, I have a solution idea that I will add a block code to check that non-admin user cannot delete a subnet that is enable DHCP in this function:  https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/ml2/plugin.py#L876  could you please help me to give some comments? and should I modify this function in this plugin?04:34
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* yamamoto reading04:36
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yamamotothanhnt-z: are you talking about this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160214/04:41
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thanhnt-zyamamoto: Yes04:42
thanhnt-zyamamoto:  Moreover, Should non-admin user be able to delete subnet? I think that Non-admin user should has permission to delete subnet which is enabled DHCP. it's right?04:43
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yamamotothanhnt-z: have you considered context.elevated()?04:44
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yamamotothanhnt-z: it depends on policy.json but usually network owner can delete subnets04:46
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thanhnt-zyamoto: I am sorry, I have not considered context.elevated(). Could you please tell me where I can refer this?04:48
yamamotothanhnt-z: you tweaked the permission so that only dhcp agent can add ips?04:48
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yamamotothanhnt-z: elevated() is something like sudo.  it returns an admin version of the context.  i guess you can use it for delete_subnet to update fixed_ips.04:50
yamamotothanhnt-z: does it make sense?  (i don't understand the whole picture yet)04:51
thanhnt-zyamamoto: you tweaked the permission so that only dhcp agent can add ips? => I have not tweaked anything regarding to this :|04:51
openstackgerritZhiyuan Cai proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Define timestamp as extension attribute  https://review.openstack.org/21095504:52
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yamamotothanhnt-z: i meant _check_non_admin_user_operation_scope by permission tweak04:53
thanhnt-zyamamoto: Yes, Now I understand that usually network owner can delete subnets, and now, I have to use context.elevated() to delete subnet that enable DHCP with non-admin user04:53
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thanhnt-zyamamoto: and now, I understood about elevated(), I will investigate more about this04:55
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thanhnt-zyamamoto: could you please confirm my above understanding ([11:53])? it's right?04:57
yamamotothanhnt-z: sounds right04:58
thanhnt-zyamamoto: Thank you very much for your help, Now, it is be better to me.04:59
yamamotothanhnt-z: np!04:59
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openstackgerritAkihiro Motoki proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: neutron v2 command module cleanup #1  https://review.openstack.org/22835205:07
openstackgerritAkihiro Motoki proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: neutron v2 command module cleanup (2)  https://review.openstack.org/22835305:07
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digaHi apuimedo05:47
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Check idl.run() return value before blocking  https://review.openstack.org/22865405:59
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vikramamotoki: ping06:23
amotokivikram: pong06:23
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vikramamotoki: Can we list records without an 'ID' field?06:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Fix URL target problem  https://review.openstack.org/22923306:24
vikramamotoki: "https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205756/7/neutronclient/neutron/v2_0/bgp/speaker.py" L23806:24
amotokivikram: are you talking about the list operation of the neutron API?06:25
vikramamotoki: Ye06:25
vikramamotoki: Yes06:25
amotokivikram: yes. we can.06:25
vikramamotoki: any reference you can sight06:25
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openstackgerritYAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: Simplify extension processing  https://review.openstack.org/22884506:25
amotokivikram: wait for a whiel06:26
vikramamotoki: ok..06:26
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vikramamotoki: One more query .. I was thinking that each resource can provide a get_xxx_by_id_or_name ...06:27
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vikramamotoki: Other resource can call those functions rather than directly working upon the other's resource06:28
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amotokivikram: example of port-list only with [fixed_ips, mac_address]   http://paste.openstack.org/show/474781/06:28
vikramamotoki: Ok.. Thanks06:28
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vikramamotoki: One more query .. I was thinking that each resource can provide a get_xxx_by_id_or_name ...  Other resource can call those functions rather than directly working upon the other's resource ... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205756/7/neutronclient/neutron/v2_0/network.py06:28
vikramamotoki: what you say?06:28
openstackgerritYAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: Simplify extension processing  https://review.openstack.org/22884506:29
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Changes in Neutron bug management  https://review.openstack.org/22873306:32
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/22874006:32
amotokivikram: although get_xxx_by_name_or_id is a convenient way, I am not sure it is worth having these method for all resoruces.06:32
vikramamotoki: ok.. Coming back to the link..06:33
vikramamotoki: I can find "neutron port-list" includes 'ID'06:33
vikramamotoki: My problem is the server cannot provide me the ID06:33
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amotokivikram: could you elaborate more?06:33
vikramamotoki: I believe 'neutron port-list -F fixed_ips -F mac_address' filters and display06:34
vikramamotoki: With the current BGP changes, we want to advertise neutron routes which are advertised06:34
amotokivikram: yes. -F option specifies filter parameters in the API.06:34
vikramamotoki: With the current BGP changes, we want to link neutron routes advertised by the BGP Speaker06:35
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vikramamotoki: The problem here is routes doesn't have any ID06:36
amotokivikram: could you share the link of API definitions or server side code of the API?06:37
vikramamotoki: one sec06:37
vikramamotoki: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201621/32/neutron/extensions/bgp.py06:38
vikramamotoki: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201621/32/neutron/extensions/bgp.py06:38
vikramamotoki: get_advertised_routes06:38
vikramamotoki: I think, I got an answer..06:38
vikramamotoki: ID here would refer BGP Speaker ID and not route's ID06:39
amotokivikram: :-)06:39
vikramamotoki: May be I am thinking too much ;-)06:39
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vikramamotoki: Please correct me if I am wrong06:39
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amotokivikram: I thnk you are right. we register get\advertised_routes to bgp-speaker resource at L.185.06:40
vikramamotoki: Ok .. thanks for your help ;)06:41
amotokivikram: you're welcome:)06:41
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reedip@armax, @henryG: seems that no input is registered in iptables when I create a rule with IPv4 as source and IPv6 as destination ( checking on the machine where the All-In-One devstack is launched)06:45
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ajohi moshele07:47
ajo(pong) :)07:47
ajoaren't you on PTO? :)07:47
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mosheleajo: Unfortunately no  :(07:49
ajooh :/07:49
mosheleajo: I wanted to add the network_update api to the SR-IOV agent07:49
mosheleajo: do I need to increase the version to 1.4 in the agent?07:49
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ajohmm, yes, as per conversations in the original OVS patch07:51
ajomoshele, also when you call network_update make sure to put the version='1.4'07:51
ajoto make sure version is checked on callee07:51
mosheleajo: but isn't It mean that the agent is also support 1.3 and 1.2 api ?07:54
mosheleajo:  like Support DVR and  Added param devices_to_update to security_groups_provider_updated ?07:55
ajomoshele, I guess you should ask amotoki07:56
ajomoshele, it's a tricky thing because we set all in a single endpoint, so we end with issues like this you said07:56
ajonot sure if we can fix it, or just live with it..07:56
ajomay be you can add the rpc ends, and throw an exception from inside ?07:56
ajo(for those 1.3 and 1.2 calls)07:56
mosheleajo: I see07:57
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openstackgerritAishwarya Thangappa proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: VPN Scenario tests using Rally  https://review.openstack.org/22928007:58
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amotokimoshele: have you solved all your questions already?08:04
amotokimoshele: i hope so :-)08:05
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openstackgerritAishwarya Thangappa proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: VPN Scenario tests using Rally  https://review.openstack.org/22928008:07
mosheleamotoki: as far as I know I will get see errors in the log link NoSuchMethod: Endpoint does not support RPC method ...   I ask ajo just to confirm my understanding08:08
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amotokimoshele: your understanding is correct. the RPC version of callee side need to be bumped.08:09
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amotokimoshele: as ajo commented, it is a bit messy area and we would like to refactor it in Mitaka cycle as a part of the upgrade effort.08:10
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openstackgerritAndreas Scheuring proposed openstack/neutron: Make OVS interface name hashing algorithm common and extend it  https://review.openstack.org/22406408:10
mosheleamotoki: so  I can implement the other methods in 1.2 and 1.3 with pass just so It won't log the error08:11
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amotokimoshele: "with pass" means doing nothing actually in the agent side. It depends on implementations in agent side, so it looks okay to me.08:13
amotokimoshele: the first sentence need ? mark at the end of the sentence..08:13
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mosheleamotoki: punctuation is not my strong side :)08:15
ajoamotoki++08:15
ajomoshele++08:15
ajo:-)08:15
amotoki:)08:15
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openstackgerritJuPing proposed openstack/neutron: Fix the bug of "Error spelling of 'accomodate'"  https://review.openstack.org/22928808:20
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: not always restart dnsmasq when dhcp-agnet restart  https://review.openstack.org/22928908:25
apuimedodiga: hi08:25
openstackgerritReedip proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Validation of Source and Destination IP address in firewall rules  https://review.openstack.org/22929008:26
digaapuimedo: Hi08:26
digaapuimedo: I am trying to create a network through docker experimental version, but getting following error08:26
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apuimedodiga: here he is08:29
diga:)08:29
digatfukushima: Hi08:29
apuimedohttp://paste.openstack.org/show/474784/08:29
apuimedothat's the error diga encountered08:29
tfukushimaDiga: Sorry, I forgot to launch my IRC client.08:29
apuimedowas this the thing banix fixed for the registration?08:30
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digaapuimedo: yes08:30
digatfukushima: ohh, NP08:30
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digatfukushima: did you face that error before ?08:30
tfukushimaIt seems like the server is running with the IP address of the host, which is supposed to be the localhost or 127.0.0.1.08:31
digaok08:32
tfukushimaWhy don't you run ./scripts/run_kuryr.sh?08:32
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tfukushimaI think http://10.77.162.75:2377/Plugin.Activate would respond.08:32
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digatfukushima: does not require to run kuryr server, I am running kuryr server08:33
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digatfukushima: this is error I am getting again - Error response from daemon: invalid driver bound to network: kuryr08:35
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digaafter running docker network create -d kuryr foo08:35
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tfukushimaYes, we have the progress and that's better.08:35
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tfukushimaActually I'm experiencing that and investigating that issues as well.08:36
tfukushimaIt seems like any API is not called and I have no idea what's wrong.08:36
digatfukushima: okay08:37
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digaas I read the log, it seems that we need to place kuryr driver under docker network08:37
tfukushimaI doubted libnetwork changed their behaviour for picking the plugin up. However, I couldn't find any description.08:37
digatfukushima: I will take look at that08:38
digaokay08:38
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tfukushimadiga: https://docs.docker.com/extend/plugin_api/#plugin-discovery08:39
digatfukushima: let me go through that08:39
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tfukushimaWe're putting our JSON spec, that is in etc/kuryr.json, in /usr/lib/docker/plugins/kuryr as described in scripts/run_kuryr.sh.08:40
digatfukushima: yes08:42
tfukushimaWe're seeing this error before any API call is made against Kuryr because we're not seeing anything in the log of the local server.08:43
digaokay08:44
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ajorossella_s ping: could you look into my latest comments here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224967/08:51
ajoI believe the reviewer requests are already present on that patchset, unless I'm missing something, which of course, could be the case08:51
ajogongysh ^ could you check it too?08:51
ajoI believe it's good if we merge make sure this patch is ready, and we merge it, in relation with the bug, so we can backport to stable branches.08:52
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openstackgerritenikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: Delete port binding of DHCP port on network rescheduling  https://review.openstack.org/22931409:15
digatfukushima: banix is not in the irc, hope he has workaround for this09:17
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openstackgerritenikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: Use separate queue for agent state reports.  https://review.openstack.org/22636209:19
openstackgerritenikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: Consume service plugins queues in RPC workers.  https://review.openstack.org/22668609:19
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openstackgerritYAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: Remove remaining uses of load_admin_roles flag in tests  https://review.openstack.org/22932009:29
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enikanorovgongysh: hi. could you please explain your -1? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181633/09:32
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openstackgerritElena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Consume FWaaS plugin queue in RPC workers  https://review.openstack.org/22932509:38
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ajoenikanorov, question: master is now Mitaka, or still Liberty RC?09:46
ajoI was looking about a -2 I could release now if that's the case09:46
ajobut unsure09:46
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enikanorov_ajo: what patch are you talking about?09:48
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ajohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/122368/09:49
ajoenikanorov_ ^ this one, it was an optimization, which could potentially introduce new bugs09:49
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enikanorov_ajo: i'm not sure i'm related to this patch anyhow09:50
ajoenikanorov_, but I don't know if our "master" now is still liberty, or if that's been moved to another branch09:50
ajoenikanorov_, It was a general question09:50
ajomy question is, "master" is now liberty or mitaka? :)09:50
enikanorov_ajo: sorry, i'm not tracking this closely, so you better ask cores :)09:51
ajoI'm not sure if liberty is already on it's own branch, or if we keep workin over master09:51
ajoack :)09:51
ajoamotoki^  do you know?09:51
ajo:)09:51
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ajohmm09:52
ajowe have stable/liberty now09:52
ajoso I guess that's it09:52
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amotokiajo: we already have stable/liberty and we need to follow usual process for stable branches.09:52
ajoamotoki: thanks a lot, it looked like that but I was unsure09:52
amotokithe only difference now is neutron-milestone member can approve backport patches.09:53
openstackgerritYAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: create_router: Report the original exception  https://review.openstack.org/21921509:53
ajoamotoki, ack :)09:54
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Tag the alembic migration revisions for Liberty  https://review.openstack.org/22827210:09
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ihrachyssc68cal: around? can you +W https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228272/ because it was blocked in gate due to Depends-On issues?10:11
ihrachysblogan: ^ same10:11
ihrachysfyi it's RC2 thing10:12
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ihrachysajo: we already landed some unsafe stuff in master, it's full blown master ;)10:13
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ihrachysbreak the world and no one cares!10:13
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: lb: avoid doing nova VIF work plumbing tap to qbr  https://review.openstack.org/19348510:30
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gongyshenikanorov ping10:57
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openstackgerritNGUYEN TUONG THANH proposed openstack/neutron: Mitigate restriction for fixed ips per dhcp port  https://review.openstack.org/16021410:59
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Use DEVICE_OWNER_COMPUTE constant everywhere  https://review.openstack.org/22936411:11
openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed openstack/neutron: Add UniqueConstraint in L3HARouterAgentPortBinding  https://review.openstack.org/22782111:12
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed openstack/neutron: Add UniqueConstraint in L3HARouterAgentPortBinding  https://review.openstack.org/22782111:23
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openstackgerritNGUYEN TUONG THANH proposed openstack/neutron: Mitigate restriction for fixed ips per dhcp port  https://review.openstack.org/16021411:35
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ajomoshele11:56
ajosriov agent, also grabs the agent extension list from [agent] extensions=...11:56
ajoright?11:57
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* ajo looks at the code itself11:57
ihrachysajo: yes11:58
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ajothanks for confirmation11:58
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VikasCapuimedo: ping12:22
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openstackgerritArtur Korzeniewski proposed openstack/neutron: L3 Agent support for routers with HA and DVR  https://review.openstack.org/19689312:33
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pc_mHenryG: ping12:55
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HenryGpc_m: pong13:11
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pc_mHenryG: I ran devstack on my latest VPN code (master + my changes), and when it stacked, it does not seem to be doing any migration actions.13:16
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pc_mHenryG: I see the migration command, but nothing is done.13:16
pc_mHenryG: Any ideas?13:16
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HenryGpc_m: make sure neutron-vpnaas is installed before neutron-db-manage upgrade is run13:17
pc_mHenryG: Not sure I follow.13:18
openstackgerritRishabh Das proposed openstack/neutron: Added VLAN transparency tempest tests for Neutron API v2.0  https://review.openstack.org/22876113:18
HenryGpc_m: It needs to see the entrypoint to know that vpnaas has branches to upgrade13:18
pc_mHenryG: Running devstack, which installs the neutron-vpnaas as part of the devstack plugin for vpn.13:18
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pc_mHenryG: Still not following, are you advocating that there is some extra step from the normal stacking process?13:19
HenryGpc_m: let me try it locally to see13:19
pc_mThis used to work (as of a few days ago)13:19
pc_mBefore the latest commits.13:20
HenryGpc_m: what is the localrc setting to enable vpnaas? Is it still enable_service q-vpn?13:20
pc_mHenryG: Note, I have not updated devstack repo in a while.13:20
pc_mHenryG: No, it is "enable_plugin neutron-vpnaas https://git.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-vpnaas"13:21
pc_mHenryG: q-vpn is the legacy service enable. Been using the plugin for a month or so.13:21
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HenryGpc_m: looks like devstack still supports the legacy13:24
pc_mHenryG: yes, it does, AFAIK, but I am not using that.13:24
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HenryGpc_m: I will try the new way13:25
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openstackgerritPaul Ward proposed openstack/neutron: Better tolerate deleted OVS ports in OVS agent  https://review.openstack.org/22751713:28
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pc_mHenryG: thanks13:37
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pc_mHenryG: In my neutron-vpnaas repo, if I run the neutron-db-manage command that I see in the stack.sh.log, It doesn't show it doing any upgrades.13:38
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HenryGpc_m: Running it "in a repo" doesn't really mean much. It runs in an installed env. What does "type -a neutron-db-manage" say?13:41
pc_mIt is in /usr/local/bin13:42
pc_mDo you think it is "old"?13:42
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HenryGWell, for testing what you have in your local repo, run it from a virtual env13:43
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HenryGsource .tox/py27/bin/activate13:43
HenryGfor example13:43
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HenryGthen drop the neutron database before running neutron-db-manage13:44
pc_mI've already "stacked", wouldn't it operate, if then run?13:44
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HenryGYou don't need stack for running in a venv13:45
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pc_mIOW, I have a stacked devstack running. Can't I just run neutron-db-manage to upgrade the database?13:45
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HenryGIn the venv, "type -a neutron-db-manage" should show the local install being run13:45
pc_mNot what I'm asking13:45
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HenryGOK, sorry13:45
pc_mI'm saying that if I have already stacked, shouldn't I be able to run neutron-db-manage to update the database for VPN?13:46
HenryGyes13:46
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pc_mSo, it is not upgrading in that situation.13:47
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* pc_m I shouldn't have said in my repo, but on my system with devstack running.13:47
HenryGRun "neutron-db-manage --help" and look at the help for --subproject13:47
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HenryGFor example, mine says "Can be one of: 'neutron-lbaas', 'neutron-vpnaas', 'neutron-fwaas', 'neutron'.13:48
pc_mHenryG: OK, did. It shows the options for the varioous services.13:48
pc_mYes, same thing.13:49
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pc_mHenryG: Did a diff of neutron-db-manage in my .tox area to the one in /usr/local/bin and they are the same, except for the first line that invokes python.13:51
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HenryGTry "neutron-db-manage history"13:51
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pc_mOK. Shows what I saw in the stack.sh.log, which is two lines. One for start_neutron_vpnaas -> add_index_tenant_id, and one for <base> -> start_neutron_vpnaas13:52
pc_mHenryG: No other migrations (and there should be quite a few).13:53
pc_mGood command to know, BTW13:53
HenryGOK, let me look into that. Give me a few minutes.13:54
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openstackgerritYAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: create_router: Report the original exception  https://review.openstack.org/21921513:54
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pc_mHenryG: The migrations it is showing are ones in versions dir, it is NOT doing any migrations from liberty directory.13:55
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openstackgerritDavid Edery proposed openstack/neutron: enable specific extra_dhcp_opt to be left blank  https://review.openstack.org/22915914:02
openstackgerritDavid Edery proposed openstack/neutron: enable specific extra_dhcp_opt to be left blank  https://review.openstack.org/22915914:04
HenryGpc_m: I am investigating in between calls and meetings and devstack hiccups14:04
pc_mHenryG: Thans. Seems like something is broken.14:05
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Support new mitaka directory with revisions  https://review.openstack.org/22944914:09
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HenryGpc_m: Is your neutron (core) up to date?14:12
HenryGpc_m: This is what I get: http://paste.openstack.org/show/474853/14:13
pc_mHenryG: Ummm... may not be... checking.14:13
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pc_mHenryG: looks like it is older. I'll update. Thanks!14:14
irenabajo: ihrachys : is there qos meeting today?14:14
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davidshaHello?14:20
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nicodemus_hello! when creating an external subnet with an allocation pool,  the fip / snat namespaces use IPs from within the allocation pool... is this a correct behaviour?14:21
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leitannicodemus_, +1 to your question14:22
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leitani think its a bug14:23
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ihrachysajo: no idea. ajo would be the one to ask. I am mildly uninvolved these days.14:24
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ihrachysirenab: ^14:24
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irenabihrachys: I guess the answer is no meeting today :-)14:27
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davidshano QoS meeting today?14:27
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leitansomebody can lend us a hand on why fip namespaces uses ips from the allocation pool reserved for floating purposes ?14:29
korzennicodemus_ it is correct14:29
ihrachysdavidsha: probably no14:29
regXboiso... here's a performance question for you, ihrachys14:30
regXboi(when you have a moment)14:30
leitankorzen, if whe reserve the allocation_pool, for floating ips, isnt supposed that the ips should be available for attaching them and allocate them for instances, fip namespaces and snat namespaces should be overalapping on the allocation_pool14:30
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davidshaihrachys: Ok, it wasn't on last week either was it?14:31
korzenthe SNAT requires one IP address from external network to be able to perform NAT operations14:31
regXboikorzen is correct14:32
leitankorzen, lets supposed that we reserved 10 ips, for instances, after creating the whole infra with dvr, without launching any instances we have, 1 floating for snat, and we will have one ip of the external per FIP namespace14:32
korzenit is stated in docs that SNAT namespace will consume first IP address from allocation_pool14:32
leitanok, korzen but fip namespaces should do that too ?14:32
ihrachysdavidsha: you should ask ajo14:32
regXboiso ... are we talking DVR or legacy here?14:32
ihrachysdavidsha: I am not currently involved in qos14:32
leitancause if we created an alloc pool of 10 ips, without launching any vm, with 10 computes we will allocate all the ips14:33
leitanwere talking about dvr14:33
leitandeployment14:33
ihrachysregXboi: ?14:33
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leitani guess it was for me ihrachys14:33
regXboiihrachys: let me postulate a scenario and then what I am seeing in the logs and tell me if I'm crazy14:33
davidshaihrachys: Cool, thanks for letting me know!14:33
ihrachysregXboi: you are, but let's move to the scenario14:33
regXboiihrachys: first, create a router and set its external gateway14:34
ihrachys:)14:34
regXboi(this is legacy now, *not* DVR)14:34
regXboithe L3 agent goes through its machinations to create the router namespace and add the external gateway port14:34
regXboiso far so good14:34
regXboinow I add an interface to the router for a project network14:34
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regXboiand the L3 agent goes through its machinations to add the internal gateway port14:35
regXboi*and then goes through and re-adds the external gateway port*14:35
regXboiuh?14:35
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regXboiis that really necessary?14:35
leitankorzen, lets suppose that we have a one-to-one nat to floating ips somewhere else, we dont have a mechanism to ensure that the allocation pool will be only available for vms14:35
regXboileitan: this is a known problem with DVR14:36
leitankorzen, and when we add new floating to vms, the fip namespace also consume ips from the allocation_pool14:36
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regXboileitan: each instance of the distributed portion of a DVR instantiated on a compute node will consume a public IP14:37
ihrachysregXboi: sounds like not but there may be some gotchas e.g. around the order in the routing table? I am not the best candidate to ask on l3. Carl is your guy.14:37
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regXboiihrachys: ack, but carl_baldwin isn't here yet :)14:37
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regXboiihrachys: neither was mlavalle who was my second choice14:37
leitanregXboi, yes i know that, but i supposed it should consume ips from the whole subnet we defined, not from the alloc pool14:37
openstackgerritAishwarya Thangappa proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: VPN Scenario tests using Rally  https://review.openstack.org/21381914:37
regXboileitan: iirc the allocation pool is how you say "only use this part of the space, the rest is reserved" ...14:38
openstackgerritenikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: Add periodic agents health check.  https://review.openstack.org/18163314:38
leitanregXboi, cause the router, consume for example use the ".1" ip, no matter if its in our out the alloc pool14:38
regXboiihrachys: I'll reask if/when carl_baldwin makes an appearance14:39
leitani thought that snat, and fip, should do that too, avoiding the alloc_pool space14:39
regXboileitan: that's the default address of the project network space and so is a different beast14:39
regXboileitan: you are conflated the case where the router acts as the default gateway (for project networks) and where it is just another endpoint on the network (for the external network)14:40
regXboier s/conflated/conflating/14:40
leitanregXboi, true, thats "tenants networks"14:40
leitanregXboi, so theres a way to ensure that a range of ip will not be used by the rest of the dvr infraestructure and dedicate that to VMs floating ip space only14:41
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leitanor we have to specify a wide range, reservate them, and play with that14:41
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regXboileitan: as far as I know, no14:41
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regXboileitan: carl_baldwin is working on some specs to avoid the dvr infrastructure chewing up those resources14:42
scheuransc68cal, ping14:42
regXboischeuran: sc68cal looks to be idle14:42
scheuranregXboi, thx14:43
leitancarl_baldwin has his hands on everything haha14:43
leitanregXboi, any pinpoint to a blueprint to take a look ?14:43
regXboileitan: DVR is part of the L3 subteam, and carl_baldwin is the L3 lieutenant14:43
* regXboi digs for a reference14:43
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regXboileitan: take a look at https://review.openstack.org/225384 to start with14:44
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regXboileitan: and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174657 as well14:45
leitanregXboi, thanks, ill start reading that ones14:45
leitanin the meantime ill set the alloc pool14:45
regXboileitan: yw14:45
leitanup high in the subnet skys14:45
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leitanso i dont be worried till a couple of years, till the "Poroto" version of Openstack14:46
leitanregXboi, thanks for the support14:46
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regXboihaleyb: ping?14:50
regXboihaleyb: let's talk L3 :)14:50
* regXboi has very simple question about L3 performance14:50
* regXboi has *very* *very* simple question14:50
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Support new mitaka directory with revisions  https://review.openstack.org/22944914:55
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ihrachysakamyshnikova: that one should work ^14:55
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ihrachysnote I don't create new directories, but they will be created on new revision generation14:55
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ihrachysI don't think we should have fake revisions on start of each cycle14:55
haleybregXboi: i'm here, L3 performance is great :)14:55
akamyshnikovaihrachys, great!14:56
regXboiso haleyb14:56
regXboihere's the scenario and the question14:56
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regXboi[we are talking legacy, not dvr here]14:56
regXboistep 1: create a router - all good14:56
regXboistep 2: set the external gateway for the router - the L3 agent does its magic - all good14:57
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HenryGsalv-orlando: ping14:57
regXboicarl_baldwin: listen as well :)14:57
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regXboistep 3: add an interface to the router for a project network - the L3 agent adds the internal interface and then repeats the adding of the external gateway that it did in step 214:58
regXboiuh?14:58
regXboiwhy?14:58
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ihrachysregXboi: next time just link to eavesdrop :)14:58
amullerregXboi: please supply a log14:58
regXboiihrachys: ack14:58
amullerregXboi: does the agent actually interact with the system? ip commands etc?14:58
regXboiamuller: yes14:58
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regXboiamuller: let me see if I can upload a log somewhere14:59
regXboior find one in logstash14:59
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haleybregXboi: yes, i've noticed that, and there was a reason explained to me once that I am a little hazy on now15:00
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regXboihaleyb: I think I'm going to need that reason because that really is breaking DRU15:01
haleybi think it might be to cover the case where you add >1 internal network, then the external - it has to loop through them all15:01
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amullerI think this discussion is useless without a log...15:02
vikramihrachys: ping15:02
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amullerI need to see what calls the agent makes on the system15:02
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regXboiamuller: http://logs.openstack.org/80/229280/2/check/gate-neutron-vpnaas-dsvm-functional-sswan/82cf63a/console.html15:04
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regXboiit's an abbreviated form, but that shows the double calls15:05
amullertimestamp?15:05
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regXboiamuller: that's why I say abbreviated - I'm looking for one with more correct timestamps15:05
regXboilogstash isn't showing me one right now15:06
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carl_baldwinregXboi, having trouble with networking this morning.  Reading back on eavesdrop...15:06
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regXboiamuller: ok here we go ... http://logs.openstack.org/36/204436/33/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/96430c5/logs/screen-q-l3.txt.gz15:09
regXboiI believe that has what I'm looking for15:09
regXboitimestamps: 17:21:11.59515:09
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amullerregXboi: this is the second update for the same router?15:10
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carl_baldwinregXboi, The L3 agent doesn't keep a lot of internal state.  It assumes that the router could be in practically any state when it starts processing it.15:10
regXboiamuller: yes15:11
regXboicarl_baldwin: that's really terrible from a performance perspective15:11
carl_baldwinKeeping internal state has been terrible from a functional perspective.15:12
amullerregXboi: that timestamp you gave me looks like the initial configuration of a router15:12
regXboiamuller: in that neutron-full log, the router updates start at 16:47:40.255 and 16:47:38.09915:12
amullerregXboi: can you double check?15:12
amullerregXboi: I see the namespace addition right before that timestamp15:12
regXboicarl_baldwin: I"m not suggesting keeping internal state15:13
regXboiI'm suggesting checking to see if what you are about to do has already been done15:13
amullerregXboi: Can you please do the work of double checking and extracting the relevant parts of a log that shows two consecutive configurations of the same router?15:14
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regXboiamuller: sigh15:14
amullerregXboi: really?15:14
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regXboiamuller: the sigh is finding a place to put the logs15:14
regXboiI have the log in front of me15:14
amullerhttp://paste.openstack.org/15:15
haleybregXboi: perhaps you can just remind me of the code paths in question15:15
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regXboiamuller: what's the upper limit on that URL15:15
amullerregXboi: dunno, why? it should just be a couple hundred lines or so15:15
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carl_baldwinregXboi, What are you suggesting?15:16
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regXboicarl_baldwin: I'm wondering if it would be possible to not just blindly reapply information15:17
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regXboiif we don't want to use internal state, can we look at what is there before reapplying?15:17
amullerthat can be as expensive obviously15:17
amullerreally depends on the specifics15:18
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carl_baldwinregXboi, historically, that has had the same cost.15:18
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carl_baldwin... and racy in many cases.15:19
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carl_baldwinWell, maybe not racy since I made changes to ensure only one thread touches a router at a time...15:19
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amullerregXboi: so I went through this log: http://logs.openstack.org/36/204436/33/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/96430c5/logs/screen-q-l3.txt.gz15:19
amullerthat log only has a single operation performed on the router15:20
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vikramHenryG: ping15:20
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vikramihrachys: ping15:20
HenryGvikram: pong15:21
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regXboiamuller: yeah, it didn't do what I wanted15:21
vikramHenryG: Can you please have a look @ "https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227074/"15:21
regXboiamuller: I'm getting the excerpt now (351 lines)15:21
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vikramHenryG: You comments are valuable ;)15:22
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carl_baldwinregXboi, I think we all agree that the L3 agent takes some steps that don't always need to be taken.15:26
carl_baldwinregXboi, The questions now are 1) what is the effect on performance?  2) What are the requirements on performance and why?15:26
regXboiamuller: http://paste.openstack.org/show/474878/15:27
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HenryGvikram: I added one comment. I may have more comments after I test it.15:27
regXboicarl_baldwin: so I think I can measure #115:27
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vikramHenryG: Thanks for the review15:27
carl_baldwinregXboi, Performance of the L3 agent has improved a lot in the last year or so with the root wrap daemon and prioritizing RCP messages over resyncs among other things.15:28
regXboicarl_baldwin: I will grant that from Juno to Kilo things got better15:28
carl_baldwinThere has been enough improvement that I've stopped hearing concern about it for some time now both from internal and the community (until today)15:28
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regXboicarl_baldwin: I will not grant that it has gotten better from Kilo to Liberty15:29
regXboicarl_baldwin: This is more of the O(n) stuff that I've been chasing from before the QA sprint15:29
carl_baldwinregXboi, I won't claim that either.15:29
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vikramHenryG: I think we can remove HEADS now?15:30
vikramHenryG: What you say?15:30
regXboicarl_baldwin: the requirement is still single digit seconds from instance launch to FIP availability15:30
HenryGvikram: For liberty I think you still need it15:30
vikramHenryG: Ok15:30
HenryGvikram: double-check with ihrachys15:30
regXboicarl_baldwin: and maintain that while scaling up to 1000s adding on a 1 by 1 basis15:30
vikramHenryG: Ok.. Will check with him15:30
regXboicarl_baldwin: let me take what I have and see what the repeat adds15:31
regXboigive me a few minutes15:31
openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: not always restart dnsmasq when dhcp-agnet restart  https://review.openstack.org/22928915:31
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ihrachysvikram: yes, HEADS is of no value15:32
ihrachysHenryG: for liberty, yes, it's needed15:32
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ihrachyskill in M15:32
vikramihrachys: Thanks for the update15:33
ihrachysvikram: actually, revision command should do it for you15:33
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vikramihrachys: Ok.. Will test it15:34
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openstackgerritPavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Use compare-and-swap for IpamAvailabilityRange  https://review.openstack.org/22312315:35
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openstackgerritPavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: [DO NOT MERGE] Enable pluggable IPAM implementation by default  https://review.openstack.org/18102315:36
Sukhdev_manishg: Ping15:36
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pavel_bondarcarl_baldwin: hi, I have uploaded new version of fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/149435115:39
openstackLaunchpad bug 1494351 in neutron "Observed StaleDataError in gate-neutron-dsvm-api tests if reference IPAM driver is used" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Pavel Bondar (pasha117)15:39
pavel_bondarcarl_baldwin: not yet sure if it absolutely fine, so would like to bring some reviewer attention15:40
pavel_bondarcarl_baldwin: and hope it is not too late in release cycle:)15:40
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amullerregXboi: sometimes the most effective way is to push a patch to Gerrit and discuss it there15:43
amullerif you have any performance enhancements you had in mind15:43
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regXboiamuller: well, this sounds like it will be a major piece of work and fairly controversial15:46
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amullerregXboi: depends :)15:47
regXboicarl_baldwin: on average the repeating adds 18% to the delay of the second pass15:47
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regXboiamuller: that is true, my friend15:47
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regXboiamuller: but I did answer my question - there *is* currently a reason for it15:48
carl_baldwinpavel_bondar, ack.  Honestly, the changes for making a Liberty RC are slim with this one.  But, it could be back ported.  We'll see how it goes after it gets merged to master.15:48
* regXboi may not agree with the reason, but there *is* a reason, and now it falls to me to spin that patch and come up with a better reason :)15:48
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pavel_bondarcarl_baldwin: ack15:49
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Test patch [NOT FOR REVIEW]  https://review.openstack.org/22919215:52
Swamicarl_baldwin: ping15:52
Swamicarl_baldwin: I see an issue with the namespace error on the agent. But I want to get some clarification. Do you have a minute.15:52
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openstackgerritHideki Saito proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add allowed-address-pairs to port-update  https://review.openstack.org/21855116:04
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openstackgerritHirofumi Ichihara proposed openstack/neutron: Add functional test for availability_zone support  https://review.openstack.org/21097716:08
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Sukhdev_kevinbenton: Ping16:10
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regXboiarmax: ping - had one question on tags in 22873316:13
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armaxregXboi: shoot16:14
ZZellearmax, hi16:14
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regXboiarmax: there are some defects already running around with performance as a tag16:14
regXboidid you want those changed to loadimpact?16:15
armaxregXboi: performance doesn’t seem to be an official tag16:15
carl_baldwinSwami, hi16:15
armaxregXboi: hence I chose loadimpact16:15
armaxregXboi: I am not fussed one or the other16:15
regXboiarmax: ack - I can find those and change them over16:15
armaxif you tell me you caught them all and converted to performance16:15
armaxI am happy to stick with performance16:15
openstackgerritThomas Goirand proposed openstack/neutron: Stop installing config files in /usr/etc  https://review.openstack.org/22950316:15
regXboiarmax: afaik, we've got both tags out there16:16
regXboiarmax: and I don't care which one we use either :)16:16
armaxregXboi: only loadimpact is a registered one16:16
armaxregXboi: that’s why I chose it16:16
regXboiarmax: ok - loadimpact it is then!16:16
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armaxwith the intention of sanitize the non-registered ones16:16
armaxin due course16:16
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armaxregXboi: ok16:16
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regXboiarmax: there are 5 in neutron with performance - I'm sanitizing them now16:16
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armaxregXboi: great16:17
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Swamicarl_baldwin:ack, I am just dicussing an issue with haleyb16:19
carl_baldwinSwami, okay.  I was in a meeting but should be around for a while.16:19
Swamicarl_baldwin: there is a namespace racecondition and I am trying to debug it.16:19
Swamicarl_baldwin: thanks16:19
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ZZellearmax, it seems you try to ping me about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228733/5..5/doc/source/policies/bugs.rst16:22
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armaxZZelle: no, I was pinging you on the py34 failure on stable16:22
armaxZZelle: it’s all good16:23
ZZellearmax, so trouble solved?16:24
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Just call set-manager if connecting fails  https://review.openstack.org/22870716:27
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openstackgerritHideki Saito proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add allowed-address-pairs to port-update  https://review.openstack.org/21855116:31
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openstackgerritJohn Kasperski proposed openstack/neutron: Improve performance of ensure_namespace  https://review.openstack.org/22758916:41
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openstackgerritJohn Kasperski proposed openstack/neutron: Improve performance of ensure_namespace  https://review.openstack.org/22758916:50
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Support new mitaka directory with revisions  https://review.openstack.org/22944916:59
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Deprecate branchless migration chains from neutron-db-manage  https://review.openstack.org/22888216:59
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Test patch [NOT FOR REVIEW]  https://review.openstack.org/22919217:02
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Cache the ARP entries in L3 Agent for DVR  https://review.openstack.org/22858217:19
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PietSorry for the persistence and cross postings.  We still need a handful folks currently usng Nova Networks to complete our survey.  https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/osnetworking17:21
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sc68calihrachys: sorry about https://review.openstack.org/193485 - I think the problem is we had too many cooks in the kitchen17:30
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syinAnyone here familiar with policy.json for Neutron in kilo?17:32
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Fix the bug of "Error spelling of 'accomodate'"  https://review.openstack.org/22928817:37
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nlahoutiarmax: Hi, would you please take look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204797/ when you get a change?17:38
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-fwaas: Tag the alembic migration revisions for Liberty  https://review.openstack.org/22827217:38
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openstackgerritJohn Kasperski proposed openstack/neutron: Improve performance of ensure_namespace  https://review.openstack.org/22758917:43
nlahoutiarmax: typo :   s/change/chance/17:45
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jckasper__ZZelle: ping18:02
ZZelle_jckasper__, hi18:02
jckasper__ZZelle: responded to comments you raised18:03
ZZelle_jckasper__, what is the change?18:03
jckasper__ZZelle: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227589/18:03
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openstackgerritDavid Edery proposed openstack/neutron: enable specific extra_dhcp_opt to be left blank  https://review.openstack.org/22915918:08
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openstackgerritDavid Edery proposed openstack/neutron: Enable specific extra_dhcp_opt to be left blank  https://review.openstack.org/22915918:09
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ZZelle_jckasper__, responded18:17
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Test Patch FIP Namespace issue [NOT FOR REVIEW]  https://review.openstack.org/22956118:19
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Add compatibility with iproute2 >= 4.0  https://review.openstack.org/22520618:21
ZZelle_armax, after querying launchpad api, there are 300 neutron bugs assigned to someone but without activity in the last year (124 in the last 12 months)18:22
* armax looks18:23
armaxhow did you search for that?18:23
armaxgot a query?18:23
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ZZelle_armax, a script doing many queries18:23
ZZelle_using launchpadlib18:24
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armaxright18:24
armaxZZelle_: you want to make them expire?18:26
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ZZelle_armax, first remove assignees and let the janitor do its job or allow new users to look at them18:27
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armaxZZelle_: yes…they need to be untargeted atoo18:29
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armaxaccording to the rules as defined on that LP expirepage18:29
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ZZelle_armax, the API allows to unset assignee and target18:33
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armaxwhat about the state?18:34
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ZZelle_armax, it's also possible through API but imo, this one should be updated manually in order to evaluate the bug18:35
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armaxZZelle_: fair18:37
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ZZelle_armax, i will work on a script to unset assignee/target on bugs without activity in the last 6/12? months + add a comment to why we did it18:41
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armaxZZelle_: I am sure that these scripts already exist18:41
armaxZZelle_: we should check with ttx18:41
armaxor dhellmann18:41
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ZZelle_armax, i will ask them18:42
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armaxthere’s gotta be such scripts18:43
armaxused by the openstack bot18:43
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openstackgerritAlexey I. Froloff proposed openstack/neutron: Fix inconsistency in DHCPv6 hosts and options generation  https://review.openstack.org/22956918:45
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-neutronclient: neutron v2 command module cleanup #1  https://review.openstack.org/22835219:12
Sukhdevmestery: Ping19:14
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openstackgerritAlexey I. Froloff proposed openstack/neutron: Fix inconsistency in DHCPv6 hosts and options generation  https://review.openstack.org/22956919:16
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mlavalleHenryG: ping19:38
HenryGmlavalle: pong19:38
mlavalleHenryG: I noticed that under neutron/db/migration/alembic_migrations/versions there is no HEADS file anymore. I will be adding new columns in Mitaka to floating ips. does HEADS go in the same place now?19:40
HenryGmlavalle: no, HEADS has gone the way of the dodo19:40
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HenryGIt is no more19:41
HenryGPining for the fjords19:41
mlavalleHenryG: ok, so what do i do now?19:41
HenryGnothing19:41
mlavalleso just add a migration script?19:41
HenryGcorrect19:42
mlavallewhere does that go?19:42
HenryGIn the versions/mitaka directory, so you need to rebase on or wait for https://review.openstack.org/22944919:42
mesterySukhdev: Replied on ML19:43
mesterySukhdev: arista is ok, it wasn't showing up in a search on pypi itself for some reason19:43
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HenryGmlavalle: does that make sense?19:44
openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Remove log decorator deprecated in Liberty  https://review.openstack.org/22959019:44
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mlavalleHenryG: yeah.... I just need to wrap my head around the details.....19:45
ZZelle_jckasper__, ping19:45
jckasper__ZZelle, pong19:45
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mlavalleHenryG: while I wait for that patchset to merge, how can I continue working with my devstack. Can I pu my migration script in Liberty?.... only for devstack purposes19:46
ZZelle_jckasper__, about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227589/6/neutron/agent/linux/ip_lib.py19:46
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armaxSukhdev: ping19:46
armaxSukhdev: did you register https://pypi.python.org/pypi/networking-l2gw ?19:46
ZZelle_jckasper__, cfg.CONF.AGENT.use_helper_for_ns_read has been defined for the case where os.listdir doesn't work19:46
ZZelle_jckasper__, so no need to try os.listdir19:46
jckasper__ZZelle, correct19:47
jckasper__ZZelle, that is when I am using that19:47
ZZelle_jckasper__, so why trying os.listdir in such case?19:47
jckasper__ZZelle, performance19:47
jckasper__ZZelle, 99% of the time os.listdir works just fine.19:48
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jckasper__ZZelle, for those cases in which it doesn't, fall back and use much slower logic19:48
ZZelle_jckasper__, in the 1% remaining, you set  cfg.CONF.AGENT.use_helper_for_ns_read == True?19:48
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ZZelle_jckasper__, that's the aim of this option19:48
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jckasper__ZZelle, actually I don't think cfg.CONF.AGENT.use_helper_for_ns_read is really needed.   should always default to use_root=True in Except leg19:49
jckasper__ZZelle, I opened another bug to go through and remove that config option.   not really needed now.19:49
ZZelle_jckasper__, nothing is checked at runtime19:49
ZZelle_jckasper__, that's why sanity check exists19:50
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jckasper__ZZelle, not following19:50
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ZZelle_jckasper__, neutron doesn't perform check at runtime to decide if it should use one implementation or an other19:51
ZZelle_jckasper__, https://review.openstack.org/9652519:52
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jckasper__ZZelle, still not following.  on my system, sudo over to root is always being done for that becuase cfg.CONF.AGENT.use_helper_for_ns_read = defaults to True19:53
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ZZelle_jckasper__, how is it related to the change?19:54
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jckasper__ZZelle, the try/except in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227589/  is not really a runtime check19:54
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jckasper__ZZelle, root_helper is slower than python native calls, if it can be avoided, isn't that a good thing ?19:57
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jckasper__ZZelle, I've seen requests in the past about trying to get rid of root_helper19:57
ZZelle_jckasper__, not when cfg.CONF.AGENT.use_helper_for_ns_read is True19:57
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jckasper__ZZelle that is the default option19:58
ZZelle_jckasper__, that's a different thing: you can propose to change default value19:59
jckasper__ZZelle, regardless of the setting... True/False, os.listdir will still be faster19:59
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jckasper__ZZelle, setting only controls wether or not root is used.  execute call to ip netns command still slower than os.listdir when not sudo to root20:01
ZZelle_jckasper__, and  cfg.CONF.AGENT.use_helper_for_ns_read == True implies we want to protect against such case20:01
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armaxHenryG: can you check if https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1197570 is still relevant?20:03
openstackLaunchpad bug 1197570 in neutron "Update instructions for database migration with additional steps that may be needed" [Low,Invalid] - Assigned to Henry Gessau (gessau)20:03
ZZelle_jckasper__, cfg.CONF.AGENT.use_helper_for_ns_read == True implies we assume os.listdir could not work as expected20:03
jckasper__ZZelle, my understanding is that  cfg.CONF.AGENT.use_helper_for_ns_read = True => means use root-helper when making ip netns call20:03
ZZelle_jckasper__, it's only a consequence20:04
jckasper__ZZelle, so what is the real meaning / intention of that config option then ?20:05
ZZelle_jckasper__, to handle the case where nonroot users have no access to /var/run/netns20:06
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jckasper__ZZelle, which means...  use root-helper when making ip netns list call  ?20:06
ZZelle_jckasper__, setting cfg.CONF.AGENT.use_helper_for_ns_read = True implies you want to protect against such case20:06
ZZelle_as a consequence, yes20:06
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jckasper__ZZelle, if you set that config option to false, you still do  ip netns calls, correct ?20:07
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jckasper__ZZelle, ip netns list  specifically20:08
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ZZelle_jckasper__, currently yes but you could replace it with os.listdir()20:08
jckasper__ZZelle, which is what I did20:09
ZZelle_jckasper__, no20:09
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jckasper__ZZelle, so you want that config option to indicate whether:  os.listdir     or   root-helper  ip netns list   is done ?20:11
ZZelle_jckasper__, yes20:11
jckasper__ZZelle, I suppose it could be done that way.20:12
ZZelle_"It seems there is no reason to try the first method if cfg.CONF.AGENT.use_helper_for_ns_read == True"20:12
jckasper__ZZelle, so that would mean that on systems where cfg.CONF.AGENT.use_helper_for_ns_read == False  AND  /var/run/netns is locked down 752 ...  L3 and dhcp agent will fail20:13
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jckasper__ZZelle, rather than what I was proposing would be for them to work20:13
jckasper__ZZelle, so change default value of that property to False....  so majority of distros perform better20:15
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jckasper__ZZelle, remove try/except for logic ...  only do one or the other20:15
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HenryGmlavalle: yes you can put it in liberty for now20:15
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jckasper__ZZelle, those distros that do have /var/run/netns locked down will break  ... unless they specifically set that property to True  which they probably didn't bother doing since it was the deault20:16
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ZZelle_jckasper__, use_namespaces=False, use_veth=True has been introduced for such cases20:17
openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Remove is_ha property from the router  https://review.openstack.org/22959920:17
ZZelle_ (without namespace support, without ovs patch port support)20:18
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HenryGarmax: commented in the bug20:18
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ZZelle_jckasper__, i honestly don't understand why the default value is True but that's not the aim of the change20:19
jckasper__ZZelle, correct.  I can see some appeal in providing such an tweak/option to admin/deployer20:20
jckasper__ZZelle, but in this particular case, it is such isolated scenario that providing additional config option and having to doc it seems overkill20:21
jckasper__ZZelle, I realize that config option is already present, just seems like it would have been nice to remove it entirely20:22
ZZelle_jckasper__, some context:20:22
jckasper__ZZelle, make the code smart enough to not have to be told how to behave20:22
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jckasper__ZZelle, there was a comment on one of the earlier patch sets to try new logic and fall back to old logic.   seemed like a good thing to me20:23
jckasper__ZZelle, I'll make the change you are suggesting... and open another bug to change the default20:24
ZZelle_jckasper__, https://review.openstack.org/96525 has removed runtime OVS/kernel checks because runtime checks we performed were not working in general (mainly because distros perform backports)20:24
mlavalleHenryG: after putting it in Liberty, what would be the neutron-db-command to trigger the migration?20:25
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HenryGmlavalle: upgrade heads20:25
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mlavalleHenryG: let me give it a try.... i'll be back20:26
jckasper__ZZelle, I'm going to push up latest patch.  Had to rebase on top on another namepace change20:26
ZZelle_jckasper__, the trouble with runtime checks is that they must always work ... the check "os.listdir will raise an exception" is always working?20:26
jckasper__ZZelle, then mark this patch as WIP to make change based on what we chatted here20:26
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jckasper__ZZelle, yep, it was for me.   os.path.exists()   doesn't work ...  found that out20:27
jckasper__ZZelle, tested with various chmod settings on /var/run/netns20:27
openstackgerritJohn Kasperski proposed openstack/neutron: Improve performance of ensure_namespace  https://review.openstack.org/22758920:28
ZZelle_jckasper__, there are many ways to change permissions: chmod, selinux/apparmor, gr-sec20:28
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ihrachysmestery: see my latest comment at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229503/ , I guess we need to block the merge for the patch (I put WIP-1 and assume that should be enough).20:36
jckasper__ZZelle, True. I only tested with chmod.20:37
mesteryihrachys: Bleah, you're right!20:37
mesteryihrachys: Update the commit message to get it out of the queue, that's the safest way I Think.20:37
mesteryihrachys: Thanks for the heads up, that looked almost too good to be true :)20:37
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ihrachysmestery: I am guilty myself approving it without playing locally20:38
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Stop installing config files in /usr/etc  https://review.openstack.org/22950320:38
mesteryihrachys: It's out of the merge queue now, good work20:38
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ihrachysok, fire drill over, I can close the laptop again and go back to bedtime reading the openstack-dev archive :)20:40
mlavalleHenryG: I got a stack trace: http://paste.openstack.org/show/474946/20:40
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mlavalleHenryG: my migration was actually done (Add attributes to support external DNS integration). I cheked in mysql and I can see the new columns in the db20:41
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openstackgerritThomas Goirand proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Push config files in /etc, not in /usr/etc  https://review.openstack.org/22961520:43
mlavalleHenryG: the neutron server re-started fine, though.... and it responds to requests20:44
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HenryGmlavalle: that stack trace suggests you are missing https://review.openstack.org/228271 in neutron (while fwaas is more up to date)20:46
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HenryGmlavalle: I suggest you update neutron20:46
mlavalleHenryG: it's a freshly built devstack. Built it from master 1 hour ago20:46
HenryGmlavalle: if you are not doing fwaas things, neutron server will probably still run fine20:46
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jckasper__ZZelle, one last question20:47
ZZelle_jckasper__, yes?20:48
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jckasper__ZZelle, when chmod is done on /var/run/netns, the failure case...  the behavior of  ip netns  and  os.listdir  is not the same20:49
jckasper__ZZelle, ip netns will return nothing...  os.listdir  returns an OSError exception20:49
jckasper__ZZelle, the exception is a little better since you immediately know you have an access error20:50
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jckasper__ZZelle, ip netns returning nothing results in a  Device already exists  error later on... which is much harder to debug20:51
openstackgerritBrian Haley proposed openstack/neutron: Add IPDevice.exists() method  https://review.openstack.org/22901020:51
HenryGmlavalle: Can you check that your neutron has this content? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228271/5/neutron/db/migration/__init__.py20:53
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ZZelle_indeed, that's the current behavior when the blah option is False20:54
mlavalleHenryG: give me a couple of minutes...20:54
openstackgerritBrian Haley proposed openstack/neutron: Add IPDevice.exists() method  https://review.openstack.org/22901020:55
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mlavalleHenryG: no, I don't have the diff (NEUTRON_MILESTONES) stuff20:56
HenryGmlavalle: that would explain the stack trace20:56
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mlavalleHenryG: so if I stick the diff ines in that __init__ file, I would be good?20:57
HenryGmlavalle: it merged about 1.5 hours ago20:57
mlavalleHenryG: ah ok, i'll just throw away that devstack and start from scratch.... thanks..... i'll let you know if i experience more problmes20:57
mlavalleHenryG: :-D20:58
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jckasper__ZZelle, so adding os.listdir instead of ip netns call will change the behavior.   the exception will happen sooner.   seems like a good thing.20:58
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ZZelle_jckasper__, yes21:02
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armaxHenryG: danke21:16
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Just call set-manager if connecting fails  https://review.openstack.org/22870721:20
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Add devref for alembic milestone tagging  https://review.openstack.org/22902821:24
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mlavallecarl_baldwin: ping21:43
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carl_baldwinmlavalle, pong!21:44
pc_mHenryG: ping21:45
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kfox1111is there a flag to set haproxy defaults for lbaasv1?22:07
kfox1111specifically timeout values?22:07
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openstackgerritAdolfo Duarte proposed openstack/neutron: Using with_lockmode to prevent DB reference errors When accessing a port without using 'update' as the with_lockmode of the query, sometimes causes DB reference errors if two processes are accessing the same port. This patch allows for the use of with_loc  https://review.openstack.org/22966222:16
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openstackgerritDavid Edery proposed openstack/neutron: Enable specific extra_dhcp_opt to be left blank  https://review.openstack.org/22915922:19
openstackgerritDavid Edery proposed openstack/neutron: Enable specific extra_dhcp_opt to be left blank  https://review.openstack.org/22915922:21
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kfox1111looks like its hard coded here: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/neutron_lbaas/services/loadbalancer/drivers/haproxy/cfg.py:24022:25
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wwriverratok. I give :’(  Trying to modify an L3 plugin to automatically do the ‘allowed_address_pair’ entries. Bad idea == trying to call plugin.update_port within the context of floating_ip.associate. It works, but getting a whole rash of DeadLock timeout errors with even the slightest of loads.  Anyone have any nuggets of wisdom or am I outta luck?22:46
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openstackgerritAdolfo Duarte proposed openstack/neutron: Using with_lockmode to prevent DB reference errors  https://review.openstack.org/22966223:04
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karimb hello buddies do we have ssl vpnaas somewhere ?23:31
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vpoonathanhi mestery23:35
vpoonathanare you there?23:35
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-neutronclient: CRUD for VPN endpoint group API  https://review.openstack.org/21945523:44
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