Tuesday, 2015-07-21

vadivelpthanks! gus and amuller!00:00
* regXboi thinks mestery is at soccer with his kids - but hopes he will be back later00:00
amullerijw: Hey Ian, you around?00:00
gusregXboi: cool.  I'm in Sydney (UTC+10)00:00
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vadivelpok!..00:00
regXboigus: yep - I've added Sydney to my world clock so I can track the time there now as well00:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Add documentation for SRIOV NIC agent (previously missing)  https://review.openstack.org/20256900:08
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Register provider configuration with ServiceTypeManager  https://review.openstack.org/20387800:11
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Decentralize the managemement of service providers  https://review.openstack.org/20220700:13
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openstackgerritZhaoBo proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Fixed the help CLI info of lbaas-pool-update  https://review.openstack.org/19096800:17
openstackgerritZhaoBo proposed openstack/neutron: Fixed pass wrong cidr check during create subnet  https://review.openstack.org/20194200:18
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: the port of scecurity group rule for TCP or UDP should not be 0  https://review.openstack.org/20152400:42
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openstackgerritYAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: test_db_base_plugin_v2: Improve DBReferenceError generation  https://review.openstack.org/19842100:59
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openstackgerritenikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: Create separate context inside _ensure_default_security_group  https://review.openstack.org/20338401:21
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openstackgerritenikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: Create separate context inside _ensure_default_security_group  https://review.openstack.org/20338401:27
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openstackgerritHirofumi Ichihara proposed openstack/neutron: Metaplugin removal  https://review.openstack.org/19205601:36
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openstackgerritenikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: Create separate context inside _ensure_default_security_group  https://review.openstack.org/20338401:40
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openstackgerrityalei wang proposed openstack/neutron: Add support for unaddressed port  https://review.openstack.org/20080901:44
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openstackgerritgongysh proposed openstack/neutron: Create fip on subnet id  https://review.openstack.org/19870301:56
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changzhiajo: ping02:01
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changzhiajo: i write a devref in patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199588/ please review it ;-)02:01
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openstackgerritLynn Li proposed openstack/neutron: Handle unbound allowed_address_pair FIP with DVR  https://review.openstack.org/20236002:15
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openstackgerritgongysh proposed openstack/neutron: Enable fullstack multinode tests, add L3 HA test exemplar  https://review.openstack.org/18822102:36
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openstackgerrityalei wang proposed openstack/neutron: Add new ovs DB API to inquire interfaces name list in a bridge  https://review.openstack.org/18956802:57
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: Install arp spoofing protection flow after setting port tag  https://review.openstack.org/19942503:07
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bzhao6https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/146779103:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1467791 in neutron "Specific ipv4 subnet to create port and return port contains ipv4 and ipv6 address" [Undecided,Opinion]03:11
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bzhao6Could someone help to confirm the bug? Thank you.03:11
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openstackgerritWei Wang proposed openstack/neutron: Fix note in devref/contribute.rst  https://review.openstack.org/20369703:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-vpnaas: VPNaaS: Enable devstack plugin for tests  https://review.openstack.org/20298503:17
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openstackgerritgongysh proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Spec for setting active l3 agent for a give HA router  https://review.openstack.org/20147303:43
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openstackgerritZhi Chang proposed openstack/neutron: Keep dns nameserver order consistency  https://review.openstack.org/19958803:58
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yushiroHi, all :)05:05
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changzhigongysh: hi, i uploaded new patch by your comments, please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199588/ ;-)05:05
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yushiroI have a question about ML2 driver implementation procedure.05:07
yushiroI've read doc/source/devref/contribute.rst.  However, I couldn't understand about vendor's requirements.txt:05:07
yushiroShould one vendor insert the requirements.txt into neutron's repository?  For example, some vendor's "requirements.txt" is in neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/<vendor_name> and described "networking-xxxx".05:07
yushiroI'm not sure about this. If anyone knows, please tell me.05:08
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amotokiyushiro: if you find neturon repo, you wil find several requirements.txt in the sub diretories. it is "vendor's requirements.txt".05:10
amotokiit is actually not referred. It is just information for distributors or users.05:10
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yushiroamotoki, thank you for your kindness.05:13
yushiroamotoki, I'd like to implement ML2 driver in Liberty. In my understanding, I don't have to insert 'requirements.txt' into neutron repo, right?05:13
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openstackgerritYujiAzama proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Add Neutron API extension for packet forwarding  https://review.openstack.org/18666305:14
amotokiyushiro: yes. If you add your python module in requirements.txt in the top dir, we will have unused many python modules05:15
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amotokiand we need to update neutron tree every time some new repo appears.05:15
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yushiroamotoki, I understand. well, what I have to do into neutron repo is that to update doc/source/devref/sub_projects.rst05:17
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amotokiyushiro: i think so.05:19
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yushiroamotoki, Thank you very much for important information :)  I'll do my best.05:23
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openstackgerritWei Wang proposed openstack/neutron: Fix note in devref/contribute.rst  https://review.openstack.org/20369705:49
openstackgerritrenli proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Add spec for security-group-logging  https://review.openstack.org/13213405:49
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Yujivikram: Hi06:00
vikramYuji: Hi06:00
Yujivikram: I have abandoned classifier spec because this spec was included in networking-sfc spec.06:00
vikramYuji: I don't think we have reached to any conclusion yet06:01
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vikramYuji: In the last neutron meeting I have asked everyone to review our etherpad link06:02
vikramand provide their feedback06:02
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vikramDid you checked the neutron-meeting logs?06:02
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vikramYuji: I feel we still need to track this unless a conclusion is made06:03
Yujivikram: I will try to check.06:03
amotokivikram: Yuji: I haven't be able to review the classifier related spec, but as faras I understand, requreiments from SFC side has some consensus06:04
amotokiand another rough consensus is that the flow classifier can be more general. vikram now tries to gather use cases06:04
vikramamotoki: what was the consensus?06:04
vikramamotoki: am i missing anything?06:04
amotokivikram: we don't have no consensus on general classifer. I thought SFC side requriement is documented in teh spec in networking-sfc repo.06:05
amotokivikram: am I missing something?06:05
vikramamotoki: my concern is we must have some bug/spec to track this otherwise we will be lost06:05
vikramamotoki: correct06:06
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amotokivikram: on general flow classifer, your concern is valid. how about filing a RFE bug to neutron launchpad?06:06
vikramamotoki: exactly, the development will be specific to sfc and won't be generalized06:06
vikramamotoki: +106:06
amotokivikram: I think filing a REF bug would help us track efforts on generic flow classifier (like your etherpad).06:07
vikramYuji: I feel we must address Kyle's comment on why we can't use SG instead06:07
vikramamotoki: +1.. Since Yuji has started I don't want to steal the credit06:07
vikramYuji: Can you file the bug06:08
amotokiYuji: if you are not familiar with neturon RFE process, i can help.06:08
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amotokiYuji: the quick link is http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/blueprints.html#neutron-request-for-feature-enhancements06:08
vikramamotoki: Yuji has filed for forwarding-rules :-) He is an expert now :-)06:09
amotokivikram: cool06:09
vikramYuji: Good work by filing it for forwarding rules.. I have just update the description now06:10
vikramamotoki: Changing gears.. can you please help us on the unit testing part for extension06:10
amotokivikram: back in 5mins06:11
vikramYuji: ping06:11
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amotokivikram: I heard yuji is trying to catch up with the dsicussion.06:14
amotokivikram: btw, whcih "extension"? CLI?06:14
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: Add conntrack-tool to manage security groups  https://review.openstack.org/14771306:30
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: Fix port-range-min validation in Security Groups  https://review.openstack.org/20152406:36
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Yujivikram: Thank you for update.06:43
Yujivikram: I will restore classifier spec.06:44
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jlibosvairenab: hi, are you here?06:55
irenabjlibosva: hi, here06:55
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yaliehi gsagie?06:56
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jlibosvairenab: cool :) I was looking yesterday on resource extensions in qos and I don't understand something. Do you have a minute?06:56
gsagieyalie : hi, i am entering to a meeting, talk with you in an hour06:56
yalieok, thanks gsagie06:56
irenabjlibosva: sure. what is the question06:56
jlibosvairenab: I don't get the SUB_RESOURCE_ATTRIBUTE_MAP06:56
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jlibosvairenab: what happens to me is that even when we build a correct neutron qos policy object then the bandwidth_limit_rules is removed by some policy check06:57
irenabjlibosva: we followed the lbaas members example, since qos_rule can be created for specific policy only06:57
jlibosvairenab: what I found is that there is _attr_info in controller and bandwidth_limit_rules is missing there06:58
jlibosvairenab: aha, I was looking for any resource using parent key but found none. I looked only in neutron repo06:58
irenabjlibosva: let me send you the link to this one06:58
jlibosvairenab: got it :)06:58
irenabjlibosva: :-)06:59
jlibosvairenab: it's the thing where health monitors are part of pools, right?06:59
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irenabjlibosva: https://github.com/openstack/neutron-lbaas/blob/master/neutron_lbaas/extensions/loadbalancerv2.py#L31806:59
irenabjlibosva: members as pool sub-resource07:00
jlibosvairenab: aha, but they are also defined in pools07:00
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jlibosvairenab: https://github.com/openstack/neutron-lbaas/blob/master/neutron_lbaas/extensions/loadbalancerv2.py#L25607:00
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jlibosvairenab: maybe we should add bandwidth_limit_rules to policy resource as well/07:01
jlibosva?07:01
irenabjlibosva: I think we have the same for rules in policy07:01
bzhao6https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/146779107:01
openstackLaunchpad bug 1467791 in neutron "Specific ipv4 subnet to create port and return port contains ipv4 and ipv6 address" [Undecided,Opinion]07:01
bzhao6Could someone help to confirm the bug? Thank you.07:01
irenabbut maybe we should have specific bandwidth_rules, which will be pitty, since we wanted to have this generic one07:02
jlibosvairenab: I think it's missing07:02
jlibosvairenab: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/feature/qos/neutron/extensions/qos.py#L4907:02
jlibosvairenab: and that's why the response from API doesn't include it as it's removed07:02
irenabjlibosva: you are right!07:02
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jlibosvairenab: great! I'll test that. I think that might be the missing piece. Thanks a lot! :)07:03
irenabjlibosva: can you please add this one if you see that problem is fixed?07:03
jlibosvairenab: sure thing07:03
irenabjlibosva: thanks a lot!07:03
jlibosvairenab: I'll send it later with patch enabling loading policy object from db with it's rule types07:04
jlibosvas/it's/its/07:04
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irenabjlibosva: great07:04
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hanzhangping gsagie07:05
openstackgerritZhi Chang proposed openstack/neutron: Keep dns nameserver order consistency  https://review.openstack.org/19958807:06
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openstackgerritYujiAzama proposed openstack/neutron-specs: [WIP] Add common classifier resource  https://review.openstack.org/19046307:14
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openstackgerritYushiro FURUKAWA proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Packet logging API for Neutron  https://review.openstack.org/20350907:14
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openstackgerritHirofumi Ichihara proposed openstack/neutron: Add availability_zone support for API and DB  https://review.openstack.org/18336907:31
openstackgerritZhi Chang proposed openstack/neutron: Keep dns nameserver order consistency  https://review.openstack.org/19958807:31
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openstackgerritYujiAzama proposed openstack/neutron-specs: [WIP] Add common classifier resource  https://review.openstack.org/19046307:41
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openstackgerritYujiAzama proposed openstack/neutron-specs: [WIP] Add common classifier resource  https://review.openstack.org/19046307:44
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Define fullstack router/network/subnet management fixture  https://review.openstack.org/19310008:12
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gsagiehanzhang: i am here08:18
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gsagieyalie: here08:18
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hanzhanggsagie, I have a question about dragonflow08:19
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hanzhangwhen I start ovs_dragonflow_neutron_agent, it always raise exception 'Exception: Versioning for this project requires either an sdist tarball, or access to an upstream git repository. Are you sure that git is installed?'08:20
irenabjlibosva: hi08:20
jlibosvairenab: will change commit message :)08:20
mosheleihrachyshka: hi08:20
irenabjlibosva: wanted to ask you about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203527/08:21
ihrachyshkamoshele, hi!08:21
jlibosvairenab: looking08:21
irenabjlibosva: any idea why this test fais? It passes locally…08:21
mosheleihrachyshka: did you see my comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199996/08:21
jlibosvairenab: I'm not familiar with API tests at all. Give me a minute to study08:22
irenabjlibosva: sure08:22
irenabjlibosva: this is first test for me as well :-)08:22
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mosheleihrachyshka: I get error when using .obj_from_primitive(primitive) on the versioned object08:24
echirivellaHi all08:24
mosheleihrachyshka: is my test wrong ?08:24
ihrachyshkamoshele, I will check in an hour, I have a meeting now.08:24
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mosheleihrachyshka: ok, thanks08:25
ihrachyshkaI'm still trying to restore from weekend, bear with me :)08:25
mosheleihrachyshka: :)08:25
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jlibosvairenab: any chance you need to configure policy.json somehow?08:42
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irenabjlibosva: it runs locally without any additional settings08:44
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jlibosvairenab: hm, I would check anyway. Can you pastebin content of /etc/neutron/policy.json ?08:47
irenabjlibosva: it has only port/network qos_policy association related entries08:50
irenabthe one in the feature/qos branch08:51
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numanamotoki, Hi could you please review this when you get some time https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198850/ thanks08:52
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openstackgerrityalei wang proposed openstack/neutron: Add new ovs DB API to inquire interfaces name list in a bridge  https://review.openstack.org/18956808:56
jlibosvaianw: by "runs locally" you mean that the api test passes or if you send GET on given uri it works? I tested the implementation of get_rule_types() on my machine with curl and it works :-/08:56
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jlibosvaianw: sorry, that was for irenab :)08:58
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: ensure_dir: move under neutron.common.utils  https://review.openstack.org/20334809:00
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openstackgerritYuuichi Fujioka proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce an API test for specified floating ip address  https://review.openstack.org/18160609:17
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openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: Create separate context inside _ensure_default_security_group  https://review.openstack.org/20338409:25
openstackgerritSergey Belous proposed openstack/neutron: Adds base in-tree functional testing of the dhcp agent (OVS)  https://review.openstack.org/13683409:26
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP]support neutron-ovs-dvr-multigateway  https://review.openstack.org/19167109:27
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openstackgerritNuman Siddique proposed openstack/neutron: Add the subnetpool created in the api test to cleanup  https://review.openstack.org/20241909:30
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karanHey frnds, has anyone done openstack multinode installation of Kilo version?09:40
karanI want to know if we use only one IP for network node, can the installation still be done?09:41
openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Fix API uri and body for QoS types  https://review.openstack.org/20398309:43
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Define fullstack router/network/subnet management fixture  https://review.openstack.org/19310009:53
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openstackgerrityalei wang proposed openstack/neutron: Use ovs interface info instead of port info  https://review.openstack.org/20399210:01
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yaliehi rkukura, could help review this patch of extension driver ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202061/10:04
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openstackgerritAkihiro Motoki proposed openstack/neutron: Remove deprecated OVS and LB plugin DB tables  https://review.openstack.org/19569410:27
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openstackgerritwatanabe isao proposed openstack/neutron: Bug-Fix for unexpected DHCP agent redundant  https://review.openstack.org/13865910:28
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openstackgerritKiran proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add external_gateway_info in router-create command  https://review.openstack.org/20401010:40
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ajbhow to update vif-model using neutron python api update_port()10:41
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openstackgerritKiran proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add external_gateway_info in router-create command  https://review.openstack.org/20401010:52
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openstackgerritItzik Brown proposed openstack/neutron: Adding a cleanup for 'qlbaas-' namespaces in netns_cleanup  https://review.openstack.org/20401810:53
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed openstack/neutron: Graceful ovs-agent restart  https://review.openstack.org/18292011:03
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jlibosvairenab: ihrachyshka_ I ran into another api issue. Not sure I understand the goal. bandwidth_limit_rules has a 'type' attribute in api. I think the type should be set based on the bandwidth_limit_rules itself, right?11:06
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ihrachyshka_jlibosva, well... probably yes. I think it's from the time when rules were considered separate to policies.11:07
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openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce usage data tracking for Neutron  https://review.openstack.org/18888311:09
openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Add DB support for resource usage tracking  https://review.openstack.org/18860811:09
openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Devref for quotas  https://review.openstack.org/19079811:09
openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Reservations support  https://review.openstack.org/16365911:09
openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Enable resource usage tracking for reference plugins.  https://review.openstack.org/18888411:09
openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Create packages for quota modules  https://review.openstack.org/18861811:09
openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Add plural names for quota resources  https://review.openstack.org/19486711:09
openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Quota enforcement: python3 compatibility  https://review.openstack.org/20402811:09
jlibosvaihrachyshka_: irenab then is the even 'type' needed? We have different objects and models for different types. That means they define the type.11:10
ihrachyshka_jlibosva, yeah, unless we have a good explanation for that, I believe we should kill it11:10
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jlibosvaihrachyshka_: ok, I'll just remove it from API for now. I'll add an action item to etherpad to get back to it once we're sure it's not needed11:12
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openstackgerritKiran proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add external_gateway_info in router-create command  https://review.openstack.org/20401011:15
openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Define fullstack router/network/subnet management fixture  https://review.openstack.org/19310011:17
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ihrachyshka_irenab, I've incorporated your API test into rule_types implementation one. Please proceed with the test there. thanks.11:17
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openstackgerritSridhar Gaddam proposed openstack/neutron: Disable port creation when invalid MAC address is provided  https://review.openstack.org/20114111:29
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ihrachyshka_gampel, hi.11:44
ihrachyshka_gampel, the idea now is that per rule subscription/get_info is an overkill11:44
ihrachyshka_instead, we do just policies11:44
ihrachyshka_see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199996/4/neutron/api/rpc/callbacks/resources.py11:44
ihrachyshka_that's the patch from moshele that will go in, after that, you won't be able to sub on rules11:45
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: Add conntrack-tool to manage security groups  https://review.openstack.org/14771312:28
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Fixed the help CLI info of lbaas-pool-update  https://review.openstack.org/19096812:37
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openstackgerritNuman Siddique proposed openstack/neutron: Add address scope API tests  https://review.openstack.org/19885012:48
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openstackgerritNuman Siddique proposed openstack/neutron: Add address scope API tests  https://review.openstack.org/19885012:54
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openstackgerritNuman Siddique proposed openstack/neutron: Support subnetpool association to an address scope  https://review.openstack.org/19755213:01
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amullergongysh: question about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201473/4/specs/liberty/select-active-l3-agent.rst13:33
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openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: Fix _ensure_default_security_group logic  https://review.openstack.org/20338413:41
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ihrachyshka_moshele, hi. have you seen my comments for serialization part?13:42
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mosheleihrachyshka_: yes I am fixing it now, thanks13:42
ihrachyshka_cool13:43
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mosheleihrachyshka_: is the rules list implemented already in the qos_pocliy?13:43
rkukurayalie: OK13:44
mosheleihrachyshka_: I saw that this is still in the TODO13:44
ihrachyshka_moshele, from API side, jlibosva is working on it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203963/ do you mean RPC side?13:44
ihrachyshka_depending on solution jlibosva takes for API, it may be on RPC side too13:44
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mosheleihrachyshka_: in the versioned object13:45
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ihrachyshka_moshele, yeah, he is working on it.13:46
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mosheleihrachyshka_: cool, but  I think my patch is depended on that13:46
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nagyzhi folks13:48
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ihrachyshka_moshele, let me check with jlibosva fist, he is somewhere around here :)13:48
mosheleihrachyshka_: and we need to adjust the ovs driver to work with object13:48
nagyzwhat happened to the VMware DVS driver inclusion review? I see the last comment from like January.13:48
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mosheleihrachyshka_: ok13:48
ihrachyshka_moshele, ok, I got you're blocked. we'll think of some quick solution, if there is one13:48
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mosheleihrachyshka_: I can  continue with the SR-IOV driver13:51
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regXboisalv-orlando: ping  on 16365913:59
regXboi(that would be reservation support :)13:59
ihrachyshka_moshele, minor nit and we should be done with serialization part14:00
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shihanzhanghi all, who can help to review this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201524/14:06
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ihrachyshka_moshele, you should try the latest patch from Jakub: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203963/5 I expect it to work (with Eran's notification backend cherrt-picked)14:15
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mosheleihrachyshka_: thanks will do14:15
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changzhi_amuller: ping14:19
amullerchangzhi_: heya14:19
changzhi_amuller: i need your review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202855/14:19
changzhi_amuller: :-)14:19
amullerchangzhi_: aye I'll try to get to it today14:19
changzhi_amuller: garyk has already +214:20
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changzhi_ihrachyshka_: ping14:23
changzhi_ihrachyshka_: i need your review too, please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199588/14:24
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changzhi_mestery: hi, i write a devref in this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199588/ have you reviewed it? any comments?14:26
changzhi_mestery: ;-)14:26
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anteayawhat is migel's irc nick, I'm blanking14:26
neiljerramanteaya: ajo14:26
ihrachyshka_changzhi, I assume I'm mentioned there due to db migration only?14:27
anteayawrong miguel thanks though neiljerram14:27
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anteayamigel who is the nova cells rep14:27
neiljerramanteaya: sorry, don't know about that one!14:27
mesterychangzhi_: ack, at nova mid-cycle will get to it soon14:28
anteayaneiljerram: thanks14:28
anteayamestery: what is migel's nick?14:28
changzhi_ihrachyskka_: yes, please review db migration14:28
anteayatrying to put it in the nova etherpad14:28
mesteryanteaya: mlavelle, I'm bummed he's not here :(14:28
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changzhi_mestery: thx14:28
anteayamestery: thanks, me too14:28
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openstackgerritElena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Don't include encryption algoritm in phase2alg for the AH protocol  https://review.openstack.org/20410914:32
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: ensure_dir: move under neutron.common.utils  https://review.openstack.org/20334814:33
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salv-orlandoregXboi: sorry I missed your ping. What's about the reservation stuff?15:03
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: adopt neutron.common.utils.ensure_dir  https://review.openstack.org/20334715:04
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openstackgerritPaul Michali proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: VPNaaS: Create grenade plugin  https://review.openstack.org/20315915:06
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openstackgerritWei Wang proposed openstack/neutron: Fix note in devref/contribute.rst  https://review.openstack.org/20369715:11
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annegentleDoes anyone know which release of neutron contains subnet pools quotas?15:43
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annegentleLooks like subnet pools are new in Kilo? http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/neutron-conf-changes-kilo.html15:44
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amuller_annegentle: yeah subnet pools merged in Kilo15:44
amuller_annegentle: dunno about quotas15:45
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amullertidwellr: carl_baldwin: ^15:46
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pavel_bondarcarl_baldwin: hi, have some time today for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183099/ ?15:48
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tidwellrannegentle: yes, we have subnet pool quotas15:53
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tidwellrthey're admittedly a littl odd in their behavior, but they exist15:54
tidwellrwe introduced them in Kilo15:54
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openstackgerritZhi Chang proposed openstack/neutron: Keep dns nameserver order consistency  https://review.openstack.org/19958816:01
changzhi_amuller: hi16:02
amullerchangzhi_: heya16:02
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changzhi_amuller: i have uploaded the new patch16:02
amullerchangzhi_: split up the migration?16:02
changzhi_amuller: please review ;-)16:02
changzhi_yes16:02
amullercool16:02
changzhi_:-)16:02
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wei-wanghi guys, a nit fix i devrefs :-D https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20369716:16
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openstackgerritZhi Chang proposed openstack/neutron: Keep dns nameserver order consistency  https://review.openstack.org/19958816:17
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changzhi_mestery: hi, i have upload patch by your comments.16:18
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openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: DVR: fix router scheduling  https://review.openstack.org/19903216:18
mesterychangzhi: thanks!16:19
changzhi_mestery: ;-D16:19
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wei-wangmestery: ping16:28
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openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: DVR: fix router rescheduling  https://review.openstack.org/19951416:28
mesterywei-wang: pongalonglinglong16:28
wei-wangmestery: ;-)  I'd like to know the status of this rfe:https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1475834 :-D Can I get it?16:29
openstackLaunchpad bug 1475834 in neutron "RFE - Provide HasTimestamp in db.models_v2 and use it in nets, subnets, ports, fips and securitygroups" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Wei Wang (damon-devops)16:29
openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: DVR: fix router rescheduling  https://review.openstack.org/19951416:29
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mesterywei-wang: I've added amotoki and HenryG to comment on it, but I suspect you can move forward with code and a devref update.16:31
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wei-wangmestery: get it, since it's quite simple, I think I can finish it in one day :-D16:32
mesterywei-wang: Yes, please do that and file a devref, I've actually gone ahead and marked it as triaged meaning you can proceed16:32
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openstackgerritDirk Mueller proposed openstack/neutron: Add z/VM mechanism driver definitions to support IBM z/VM agent  https://review.openstack.org/20293616:42
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openstackgerritRossella Sblendido proposed openstack/neutron: L2 agent RPC add new RPC calls  https://review.openstack.org/14743516:50
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shagueany idea what makes devstack/openstack install a different version of pbr? in the working case devstack installs pb 0.11.0. in the failed case it upgrades to pbr 1.3.0 and it blows up16:53
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mesterylifeless: ^^^^16:53
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shaguemestery: finally found the right channel :)16:53
mesterylifeless: shague is having bizarre issues iwth devstack and pbr, see above, any pointers?16:53
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thorst1mestery: have you seen this?  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200290/16:54
mesteryshague: ^^^^16:54
thorst1might be related to the pbr thing16:54
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shaguethis is using devstack at stable/kilo. Do a stack with OFFLINE=TRUE. Works well, i see logs indicating pbr is downgraded to 0.11.0. Then I flip off OFFLINE to false16:55
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thorst1ahh, yeah, that would be different...16:55
shagueand I see PBR upgrded to 1.3.0 and the failure: pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: The 'pbr!=0.7,<1.0,>=0.6' distribution was not found and is required by oslo.i18n,16:55
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shaguethis is also in the log and seems to be why it upgrades: Using cached pbr-1.3.0-py2.py3-none-any.whl16:57
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pc_mdougwig: "respond with one ping only" - Hunt for Red October17:03
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron-specs: [WIP]neutron-ovs-dvr-multigateway  https://review.openstack.org/18980117:09
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron-specs: [WIP]neutron-ovs-dvr-multigateway  https://review.openstack.org/18980117:11
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pc_mblogan: ping17:14
bloganpc_m: pong17:15
pc_mblogan: For LBaaS do you know if the tools/tox_install.sh is working correctly, and selecting Neutron change-set, if a LB job is running on a Neutron patch?17:15
pc_mblogan: I'm trying to do the same thing for VPNaaS, but tox_install.sh is not selecting the Neutron patch, and is using latest on master, instead.17:16
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bloganpc_m: i believe that is done through some other mechanism17:17
bloganpc_m: dougwig knows for sure, but let me see if i can find it myself17:17
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Swamimestery: ping17:17
pc_mblogan: Doug pointed me to tox_install.sh, and I did the same in VPN repo, but it is not selecting the Neutron patch-set :(17:17
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bloganpc_m: ohh tox_install, i misread thinking you said pretty_tox17:18
mesterySwami: pong17:18
bloganpc_m: yeah thats the file, its very new to me, doug wrote it and i tested it out and it worked so it got in17:18
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Swamimestery: the dvr gating job is waiting for your approval.17:19
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mesterySwami: It's still higher than the full job, right?17:19
Swamimestery: can we vote on this job. I spoke to carl and assaf adn they were fine to pull the trigger on it.17:19
Swamimestery: yes17:19
mesterySwami: OK looking again17:19
pc_mblogan: Any idea as to why, when I try it in VPN, it ends up hitting the "ALREADY ISNTALLED" case, and not the "ZUUL CLONER" case, which I think is the desired one?17:20
amullerSwami: How's the failure rate when compared to the normal neutron job over the last 3 days?17:20
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Swamimestery: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180230/17:20
amullerSwami: do you have the graphite graphics?17:20
bloganpc_m: besides the obvious that it actually is already installed, not a good idea17:20
Swamiamuller: The graph is coming down.17:20
bloganpc_m: i mean i dont have a much better idea17:20
Swamiamuller: #link v17:20
Swamiamuller: #link http://goo.gl/4YK3oZ17:21
amullerSwami: it's still at roughly 30% failure, that's going to be a lot of rechecks17:21
mesterythanks Swami17:21
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-neutronclient: Remove unused AlreadyAttachedClient  https://review.openstack.org/20096017:21
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pc_mblogan: I don't know if there is some other difference, but the check for neutron import passes. I have slightly different syntax for VPN.17:21
Swamiamuller: we have always seen a 12.5% deviation from the centralized one.17:21
amullerSwami: do you know why at this point?17:22
mesterySwami amuller carl_baldwin: It's getting closer, I'd prefer to wait a few more days, waht do you guys think?17:22
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pc_mblogan: https://github.com/openstack/neutron-vpnaas/blob/master/tools/tox_install.sh#L1717:22
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amullerSwami: would you expect the failure rate to go down or stay around 10% more than the normal job?17:22
Swamimestery: amuller: carl_baldwin: I will be on personnel time off starting wednesday and will be back on August 14th.17:22
pc_mblogan: https://github.com/openstack/neutron-lbaas/blob/master/tools/tox_install.sh#L1717:23
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Swamiamuller: at this point I expect that it is around 10% deviation from the centralized one.17:23
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amullerSwami: any known bugs?17:23
amullerthat would cause that?17:23
mesteryamuller: ++, I'd like to understand as well17:23
Swamiamuller: there are no known bugs at this time, that causes this deviation. There are some timing issues.17:24
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Swamimestery: amuller: I am trying to fix some of the timing issues and race conditions with a patch that is ready to get merged as well.17:25
Swamiamuller: mestery: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194441/17:25
mesterySwami: Link to that patch? Maybe we can look at getting that merged and re-evaluate? amuller, thoughts?17:25
mesterythanks Swami17:25
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Swamimestery: amuller: this patch is the parent and has two more patches as child.17:26
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amullerSwami: you can link that patch series to current DVR job failures?17:26
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Swamiamuller: what do you mean by current DVR job failures.17:27
amullerSwami: the failures you're seeing in the current job are related to the FIP gateway port?17:27
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Swamiamuller: most of the failures are related to "could not connect to the FIP".17:28
mesterySwami: +1 to make it voting17:28
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mesterysee my comments on the review17:28
mesteryhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/180230/17:28
Swamimestery: thanks will take a look at it.17:28
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mesterySwami: Thanks for your work here!17:29
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Swamimestery: thank you again17:29
openstackgerritPaul Michali proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: VPNaaS: Add debugging to tox_install.sh  https://review.openstack.org/20320117:30
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openstackgerritPaul Michali proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: VPNaaS: Add debugging to tox_install.sh  https://review.openstack.org/20320117:32
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amullermestery: fishing for a merge on this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203348/17:48
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dougwigpc_m: i tested tox-install in lbaas yesterday after your concerns, and it failed properly.17:48
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dougwigpc_m: does your functional job use devstack?  does it use code in a different location from devstack?17:48
amullermestery: and this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203632/17:49
pc_mdougwig: Good to know... Did your run end up using Zuul Clone?17:49
mesteryamuller: For the first one, did a recheck17:49
pc_mdougwig: The functional job uses devstack (it does config for devstack, but does not stack)17:50
amullermestery: grenade failure rate may have gone up?17:50
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amullermestery: didn't look in to it yet17:50
mesteryamuller: ack17:50
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mesteryyeah17:50
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dougwigpc_m: for units and pep8, it uses zuul-cloner. for devstack runs, it uses the installed version.17:50
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dougwigdevstack installs for neutron changes should install the specific neutron changeset. if it has master instead, something funky is going on.17:51
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amullermestery: although it's pretty clear that a shuffle of a method's location would not cause a legit upgrade failure17:52
amullermestery: in those cases I just approve and let the gate queue do the recheck for me :)17:52
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pc_mdougwig: tox_install.sh is hitting the path "ALREADY INSTALLED" for the VPN functional test run.17:53
dougwigpc_m: as it should, since devstack-gate went to all the trouble to install it for you.17:53
dougwigpc_m: the question is, why is it not installing the correct neutron, right17:53
dougwig?17:53
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pc_mdougwig: I see, so it shouldn't use the Zuul-cloner (only the pep8 and ut). gotcha.17:54
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mesteryamuller: lol17:55
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dougwigpc_m: correct.17:56
pc_mdougwig: Looking at logs to see if I can see what devstack installs.17:56
lifelessmestery: shague: devstack installs latest pbr at the start every time17:57
amullermestery: looks like grenade is failing in the old environment when it tries to create VMs17:58
lifelessmestery: shague: having 0.11 work at all would be mysterious17:58
amullermestery: error 500 from nova17:58
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lifelessget me a log please17:58
pc_mdougwig: not sure I can decipher the log. Left my openstack decoder ring in the office.17:58
mesteryshague: See comments from lifeless above please17:58
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dougwigpc_m: link?17:59
pc_mdougwig: http://logs.openstack.org/49/196149/5/experimental/gate-neutron-vpnaas-dsvm-functional-sswan/db169c9/logs/devstack-gate-setup-workspace-new.txt.gz17:59
openstackgerritSridhar Gaddam proposed openstack/neutron: Fix race condition by using lock on enable_radvd  https://review.openstack.org/19362417:59
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dougwigpc_m: see this line: "2015-07-20 17:19:43.399 | + git fetch http://zm02.openstack.org/p/openstack/neutron refs/zuul/master/Z25cf16f5683e40d38c4920fbcfe972c118:00
dougwig"18:00
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dougwigpc_m: it is grabbing the zuul ref for the changeset. what's the behavior that you're seeing?18:01
pc_mdougwig: I was almost there... :)18:01
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pc_mdougwig: When Iook at the log for the run, it indicates that the neutron installed was a different version.18:02
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dougwiglink to that log?18:03
dougwigor the review?18:03
pc_mhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/196149/18:03
pc_mdougwig:  http://logs.openstack.org/49/196149/5/experimental/gate-neutron-vpnaas-dsvm-functional-sswan/db169c9/console.html#_2015-07-20_17_24_42_54018:04
dougwigpc_m: heading to lunch, will peek right after.18:04
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pc_mdougwig: seems to imply a different commit is used.18:05
pc_mTest should have two failures.18:05
pc_mdougwig: ok18:05
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johnbelamaric1haleyb: any chance for a review of #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183099 today? It's the last in the IPAM function and has a +2 from carl_baldwin already18:08
amullermestery: ... and this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193624/18:10
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mesteryamuller: that one seems reasonable18:11
amullermestery: I spent a lot of time triaging that one18:12
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amullerbastard bug18:12
mesterylol18:12
mesterywow18:12
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mesterythanks amuller :)18:12
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amuller:)18:12
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amullercarl_baldwin: kevinbenton: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177499/ is good to go18:14
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ijwamuller: you wanted me?18:14
amullerijw: It was about Carl's thread about L3 networks, had a question but I got it answered through other means :)18:15
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openstackgerritNuman Siddique proposed openstack/neutron: Support subnetpool association to an address scope  https://review.openstack.org/19755218:16
amullerijw: I post a little comment there saying that we don't need to do anything and it's all Nova's fault but sadly my unique little snowflake of a comment got lost in that thread18:16
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mesteryanteaya: Any chance you can look at the DVR voting patch here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180230/18:17
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mesteryanteaya: carl_baldwin Swami amuller and I are all in agreement on making it voting now18:17
mesterysee my comments there for details18:17
* anteaya looks18:17
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ZZelle_enikanorov, hi18:22
anteayamestery: I commented, it reads that you want the job voting on master, juno and kilo?18:22
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mesteryanteaya: That sounds right to me, amuller and Swami and carl_baldwin can verify if our understanding is incorrect.18:23
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amulleranteaya: yes18:23
Swamianteaya: yes that was our intention18:23
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anteayagreat thank you18:23
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anteayamtreinish: feels the job in tempest is in the wrong section, see the -qa channel18:25
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mtreinishanteaya: it's just a nit18:25
anteayaand his comment on the patch18:25
mtreinishwhich is why I didn't -118:25
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anteayait is isn't kilo compatible for tempest won't it block tempest kilo?18:26
anteayasince it is voting?18:26
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anteayamtreinish: ^18:27
mtreinishanteaya: it's just a comment for organization in layout.yaml18:27
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mtreinishit doesn't effect anything functionally18:27
mesterymtreinish: Want me to re-roll it quickly?18:28
shaguelifeless: what I found is that when using OFFLINE=FALSE, devstack installs pbr 0.11.0 and all is good. When OFFLINE=True, it installs 1.3.0 and it fails18:28
mtreinishmestery: either or it doesn't matter to me18:29
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mtreinishwe can fix with a follow up too18:29
anteayamestery: so he is saying the section it is in is with the kilo jobs18:29
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anteayalet's merge and follow up18:29
mtreinishlike I said it's a nit18:29
mesterymtreinish: OK, lets merge it and I'll do a followup, sound fiar?18:29
Swamimtreinish: Yes I can fix it on a follow up patch.18:29
mesteryanteaya: Exactly18:29
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Swamimtreinish: anteaya: thanks18:29
shaguelifeless: in the requirements.txt for network-odl, it is setting 1.3.0 - but that is ignored when in offline=false mode and pbr 0.11.0 is used18:30
mtreinishSwami: if you push a follow up, can you add a comment on the bottom for # Jobs for other configs18:30
Swamimtreinish: ok will add this section.18:30
mtreinishto separate the juno section from other things18:30
mtreinishSwami: great thanks18:30
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anteayasorry ajaejer changed his vote18:30
mesterymtreinish: ^^^^18:31
mesterySwami: Can you re-roll to address both comments?18:32
mesteryThen we can anteaya mtreinish and maybe andreas to merge18:32
mesterySwami: Do it ASAP since we ahve their attention :)18:32
Swamimestery: yes I will re-roll it.18:32
anteayamestery: I'm trying18:32
mesteryanteaya: Thank you! :)18:32
openstackgerritNuman Siddique proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Support Command line changes for Address Scope  https://review.openstack.org/19463518:32
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anteayamestery: :)18:33
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openstackgerritRossella Sblendido proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce get_ports_attributes in  OVSBridge  https://review.openstack.org/20027918:37
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ijwamuller: that was a write and forget sort of thing, did I start a war/18:39
amullerijw: No I don't think so :)18:39
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openstackgerritLouis Taylor proposed openstack/neutron: Automatically generate neutron.conf  https://review.openstack.org/20420618:40
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lifelessshague: I need a log please.18:56
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lifelessshague: I'm sure your observations are correct, but without a log its simply  waste of everyones time, because we can't check any theories.18:56
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lifelessshague: ./stack.sh |& pastebinit -b http://paste.openstack.org/18:57
lifelessshague: for instance18:57
mesteryshague flaviof: Yes, getting hte log will help us debug this please, we can get to the bottom of it once lifeless can view that :)18:57
enikanorovZZelle_: hi18:57
shaguelifeless. sure, I will upload the logs. it is very simple to reproduce.18:57
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john-davidgecarl_baldwin: Hey Carl, how’s it going?18:58
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carl_baldwinjohn-davidge: hi18:59
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john-davidgecarl_baldwin: Just wanted to let you know I’ve got new PD patchsets up that get rid of the added ipv6_pd_enabled attribute https://review.openstack.org/#/c/15869719:00
john-davidgecarl_baldwin: All based on subnetpool_id now19:00
flavioflifeless: is that enough info: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/982c606f24ed46068183  ?19:00
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carl_baldwinjohn-davidge: Thanks.  I will be sure to look today.19:01
lifelessflaviof: no19:01
lifelessflaviof: the full output from stack.sh, no more , no less19:01
john-davidgecarl_baldwin: Awesome, thanks19:01
flavioflifeless: ack. let me do a better job19:01
lifelessactually, I can perhaps help on this one19:02
lifelessflaviof: is this kilo ?19:02
flavioflifeless: yes, this is stable/kilo based stack19:03
lifelessok, so I thought we backported all the fixes here19:03
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mesteryflaviof shague: Are you guys running kilo components for everytjing else including networking-odl?19:04
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ijwamuller: I have taken a judicious step back and thrown a gallon of petrol in the direction of that thread19:04
lifelessflaviof: what branch of devstack are you running ?19:04
ijwamuller: I do have a point, though: I don't think what Carl's trying to do plays well to future development or maintainability19:05
mesterylifeless: You may have nailed it, I bet flaviof and shague are not using stable/kilo devstack here19:05
amullerI'm not a fan of the backing network idea either19:05
ijwcarl_baldwin is even here so he can tell me I'm wrong to my virtual face, too19:05
flavioflifeless: yes all stable/kilo, including devstack:19:05
amullertoo complicated for operators19:05
mesteryflaviof: OK19:05
flavioflifeless: local.conf: https://gist.github.com/537e8dd52b83a6788e3d19:05
flaviofin that local.conf, you can see that all services are off of kilo branch19:06
ijwThere's nothing *wrong* with it but it's not a solution to every problem in that space and it can't be made to fit.  Also, it repurposes the 'network' object to be two different things.19:06
ijwWhich is working very well because no-one has put into words what 'network' and 'subnet' actually mean19:06
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ijwcarl_baldwin needs to come over here and drink beer and all the problems would melt away19:06
* carl_baldwin reading back for context.19:06
flavioflifeless: mestery: devstack git https://gist.github.com/e6edbce29cb2ef6ca2b019:07
ijwThis meeting has lemonade and cupcakes.  Win!19:07
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* amuller is now thinking about walking down to the cupcake store19:08
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flavioflifeless: /me and shague in meeting. will get you log of stack.sh shortly after19:09
carl_baldwinijw, amuller:  I feel like I missed the beginning of your conversation but I think I get the gist.19:10
lifelessthanks19:10
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lifelessthe downgrade in kilo is expected.19:11
lifelesswhat the log will let us ffigure out is what is upgrading it19:11
carl_baldwinijw:  I would like a better understanding about why you think this would adversely affect development and maintainability.19:11
flavioflifeless: ack. ty!19:11
carl_baldwinamuller: I would like to know more about why you’re “not a fan.”19:12
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amullercarl_baldwin: I'm not convinced there isn't a much simpler solution as detailed in my reply to that thread19:12
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carl_baldwinijw: I have made an attempt or two at putting in to words what a network and subnet are.  Let me see if I can find where I wrote that.  The bottom line is that the network is essentially both the L2 and L3 parts and the subnet is little more than a cidr.19:16
carl_baldwinamuller: I’m a bit behind in the thread.  Let me go read over what you wrote.19:16
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ZZelle_enikanorov, did you see my remark in https://review.openstack.org/187431?19:18
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enikanorovZZelle_: looking19:20
amullerijw: carl_baldwin: I see that johnbelamaric1 also acknowledges the fact that this is partially (In my eyes primarily) an issue with the Nova scheduler19:20
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ijwamuller: so that's a tail/dog problem19:31
ijwamuller: You can allocate the right address when the machine lands, or choose the address in advance and find a machine on which it will work19:31
amulleryeah, kind of depends what problem you're trying to solve...19:32
ijwThe former is efficient.  The latter is coming up with a crappy placement (because you've effectively prescheduled the machine under conditions that no longer hold) based on an address that was allocated too early19:32
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ZZelle_enikanorov, the question is "do you see a more clever way to handle the failing scenario than adding yet another option to enable/disable the feature added in your patch"?19:33
ijwThere are reasons why you would want to schedule based on the presence or absence of a provider network on a host; I just think that that case is not this case19:33
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amullerijw: really? that's exactly what I get from reading the etherpad the "big deployers team" put up19:33
amullerijw: I mean, sorry19:34
amullerthe reverse heh19:34
ijwcarl_baldwin: mail contains the comments on maintainability.  I just feel that keeping this separate, when I think there's actually a clean interface by which it *could* be kept separate, makes more sense than doing weirdness19:34
carl_baldwinijw, amuller:  I think the nova scheduler problem is orthogonal but needs to be solved too.19:34
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amulleryou schedule a VM, it ends up on a host, you then choose a network available to that host19:34
amullerif there's 1 you grab it, if there's more than one Neutron needs to tell Nova which one to pick19:34
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amullereither explicitly or according to a parameter that holds true to a network19:35
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ijwamuller: It's better of you schedule as late as possible, but if you have segmented provider networks and you assume that the allocation of addresses is an unchangeable thing that always happens the instant you create a port then you can't.  So I wonder if they discarded that option out of hand rather than working around the problem.19:35
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amullercarl_baldwin: If you think it's orthogonal then we're clearly not trying to solve the same problem, which goes back to me saying that the problem statement is not clear enough, OR, too wide, and we're trying to solve too many problems with one weird solution19:35
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ijwamuller: you schedule a VM, it ends up on a host, the VM builder chooses a backend network (per Carl) that suits the front end one, then finds its subnet is all wrong for the address the port *already has*, at that point, then oh bugger19:36
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amullerijw: the VM shouldn't have a port at that point19:36
ijwamuller: alternatively, the port has an address therefore it has a backend network therefore the machine has no option about where it's going to go - but its other constraints may not be meetable19:36
enikanorovZZelle_: no, really. we either triggering the behavior or stick with the new one19:36
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ijwamuller: neutron port-create xxx; nova boot --nic port-id=xxx19:37
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ijwamuller: Not to mention that even in a single machine boot the port is created before scheduling19:37
amullerijw: Ian I know that's possible =/ That's not what I'm saying19:37
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carl_baldwinamuller: What I mean by orthogonal is that we have the scheduling problem regardless of the outcome of the mail I sent.19:37
amullerijw: Just because it's possible doesn't mean you should use it in the environment we're talking about19:37
amullerwhat are you trying to accomplish?19:37
amullercarl_baldwin: agreed19:38
carl_baldwinamuller: The two are obviously related but can be discussed independently.19:38
amullercarl_baldwin: disagreed :)19:38
ijwamuller: given I might want to set properties on the port then I have to use it in some circumstances - and even if I don't there's *still* a race19:38
carl_baldwinamuller: I’m very confused.19:38
ijwThe thing I lose is that it's not possible to get the VM's address before it's booted, at this point19:38
amullerijw: From reading GoDaddy's requirements they don't give a crap about the IP address or what it ends up as19:38
ZZelle_enikanorov, an other (awful?) approach would be to add a 169.254.169.254/31 route pointing to the router19:38
ijwcarl_baldwin, amuller: so, scheduling: I think what's worth doing is making sure we can schedule a VM to a machine that's got a network that isn't connected to all hosts (that's a useful thing for provider networks)19:39
ijwI think what's a *bad* idea is picking an address for a port in advance of scheduling so that there is a restricted number of hosts to use to satisfy the rest of scheduling19:39
ijwSo the delayed-address thing is pretty much a requirement19:39
ZZelle_enikanorov, dhcp routes (to 169.254.169.254/32) would "win" over router routes (to 169.254.169.254/31)19:40
ijwAnd it's *delayed-address* that matters here, not address selection in general19:40
flavioflifeless: stack.sh.log: https://gist.github.com/4d4df4bcd6632fedaf1119:40
amullerijw: As I wrote in my email, I *think* the behavior that's requested is that when you boot a VM you don't specify a port ID or a network ID19:40
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openstackgerritPaul Michali proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: VPNaaS: Add debugging to tox_install.sh  https://review.openstack.org/20320119:40
flavioflifeless: local.conf: https://gist.github.com/537e8dd52b83a6788e3d19:40
amullerijw: you let the nova scheduler do its thing, then select a network that is available on that host19:40
ijwamuller: we're talking at cross purposes19:41
enikanorovZZelle_: sorry, got to go now. I'll reply in review19:41
ZZelle_enikanorov, ok19:42
ijwFirstly, in the case we're talking about here where we have one primary network (that nova boot specified, or neutron port-create specified) with multiple backing networks, then I *don't have a choice* about which host I run on because only one of the segments will be able to support the address that has already been chosen for that port before scheduling even happens unless the allocation is delayed19:42
amullerI never mentioned backing networks19:43
ijwSecondly, there's a use in having provider networks that are user-exposed and not available on every host, which is something it might be nice to add to the scheduler in the future.19:43
ijwamuller: 'select a network that is available on the host'19:43
ijwWhich rather implies that there's more than one network that would work, which rather implies backing networks19:43
amullerbacking network == one specific solution, which I don't like19:43
ijwOr segments, whatever19:43
amullerI'm still taking about what kind of workflow the users actually want to use19:43
amulleror, the problem statement19:44
ijwYou know, that is a sensible plan19:44
ijwWe're basically throwing use cases at each other, here, saying 'your solution doesn't solve my problem'19:44
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amulleryes, I've been trying to define the problem we're trying to solve for the past hour =D19:45
amullerand having it narrow enough so that the solution can be simple19:45
amullerit might not solve the /32's BGP implementation19:45
amullerthat's fine19:45
amulleror god knows what other technical implementation you're trying to shoehorn in to a new feature19:46
amullerI just want to know what problem GoDaddy has, because it might not be the same problem that Yahoo has19:46
amulleror Rackspace19:46
amulleror whoever else is on that Etherpad19:46
amullerand I pretty much know that Calico is not solving the same problem19:47
ijwI think the 'magical /32 route injection' problem is different anyway19:47
amullerthank you19:47
ijwHere, we're talking about location-specific addressing, pretty consistently19:47
ijwAnd 'location-specific addressing' is precisely what you get when you put a router behind a provider network today19:48
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ijwAnd that's the problem statement I heard that came out of that discussion19:48
mesteryYikes, things are getting hot in here.19:48
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amullerijw: I'm reading GoDaddy's requirements here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Network_Segmentation_Usecases19:51
amulleragain and again...19:51
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amullerit looks like they don't care what address the VM ends up with, just that the nova scheduler should be aware that when it filters hosts, it should also see if the network available to that host has IP addresses available or not19:51
amullerso Nova is asking Neutron for information during scheduling to make its decision19:52
amullerI think that's the only requirement there19:52
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ijwI need ot go read that again, but I *think* they've half-soled the problem (missing a trick) and then brought the solution up as a scheduling issue19:52
ijwWhen the answer is to remove the constraint (i.e. network address preallocation) so that the solution is not a scheduling one19:53
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amullerijw: I don't think they allocate a port or address beforehand19:53
amullerin fact19:53
amuller"End users are not expected to choose a network, our custom scheduler picks one for them"19:53
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amullerand I think the solution is definitely a scheduler based one if the user is not expected to select which network (Or port) a VM should be connected to19:54
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amullerijw: They later talk about selecting a L3 domain or security zone, which IMO can be expressed as a characteristic (tag(s)) that the network that Nova chooses must have19:56
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amullerijw: I think that it's possible to solve their requirements without modeling what is a segment / backing network, but by enhancing the nova scheduler, and IMO that's very simple and intuitive solution19:58
amullerbut perhaps nova guys will want to tear my head off :)19:58
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carl_baldwinijw_: If I recall, they didn’t want to schedule first and assign IP later because the segment may not have IPs available.  They chose to include IP availability in scheduling for that reason.20:15
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amullercarl_baldwin: I'm lookin at the 'YY' requirements and it seems like the enhancements we talked above would also solve their problem, I think20:22
amullercarl_baldwin: and I think Yahoo as well20:23
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amullercarl_baldwin: almost... nova scheduler would need to support two similar-ish cases. You either don't specify a network or port when you request a VM. At which point, Nova will schedule based on its own filters, and select a network that that host is connected to (Which is information it would get from Neutron). A second step would be getting IP address availability on a network and taking that in to consideration when filtering hosts.20:27
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amullercarl_baldwin: The second user flow would be that the user does select a network, and that network is simply used as an additional filter during Nova scheduling (i.e. the host it chooses must be connected to the chosen network)20:28
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amullerhaving both of those flows supported I think would solve GoDaddy's, YY's and Yahoo's requirements20:28
amullerwithout modeling what is a segment or backing network20:29
amullerjust have networks on a per-rack basis by attaching networks to an AZ or being able to reply to Nova with a host's bridge mappings settings20:29
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adam_gmestery, any chance we can get a stable/kilo release of python-neutronclient 2.3.12 to address https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-neutronclient/+bug/1469087 ?20:48
openstackLaunchpad bug 1469087 in python-neutronclient kilo "neutronclient broken because of oslo.i18n 2.0.0 release" [Undecided,New]20:48
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mesteryadam_g: It's not clear to me from reading the bug that a new version is required. Reading ihar's comments makes it unclear.20:49
adam_gmestery, i cant speak for his comments, but the gist is we need a client release from the stable branch to reflect whats current in g-r20:50
adam_ghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11916304/20:50
adam_gmestery, oh i see, its not an issue for stable/kilo but it is for juno20:53
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mesteryadam_g: can you update the bug with that info?20:54
carl_baldwinamuller: Who has requested the second user flow?20:54
adam_gmestery, yp doing now20:54
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carl_baldwinamuller: As for the first use case.  The way I heard it, they would like the user to select something the represents the L3 domain.  It may not be a network or a pre-configured port but isn’t just nothing.20:56
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johnbelamariccarl_baldwin, amuller: that's what I see too - that they want to be able to make some distinctions about which networks may be considered - the L3 domain in particular but I am wondering if it should/can be more general20:59
adam_gmestery, okay, thats updated21:00
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amullercarl_baldwin: the second user flow is requested by 'YY' in that etherpad21:00
mesteryadam_g: thanks21:01
amullercarl_baldwin: about both cases, I agree, it looks like the user would select a charetaristic of the network (Be it L3 domain or something that represents that on a less technical level, IMO), which is why I was talking earlier about tags or metadata that we add when we create a network21:02
amullerjust normal Neutron networks21:02
amullerwill be tagged with arbitrary metadata21:02
amullerand when you boot a VM you can select a list of tags that the network that will be selected for that VM must fulfill21:02
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amullerto make a concrete example21:02
carl_baldwinamuller: “webpanel where they select the kind of networking”  Did I miss something?21:02
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amullercarl_baldwin: I know as much as you do, and I suspect a lot less :)21:03
amullercarl_baldwin: sounds like they created their own GUI21:03
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carl_baldwinI don’t read that they want the user to select a network but a *kind* of network.21:04
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carl_baldwinThat sounds the same as the other case.21:04
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amullercarl_baldwin: sure21:06
amullercarl_baldwin: I'm saying in both cases, if we can put tags on networks, and have the nova scheduler filter hosts based off those tags21:07
amullerwe're done21:07
amullerwithout changes to neutron networks or subnets, without modeling what is a segment21:07
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carl_baldwinamuller: You are modelling segments as networks, right?21:07
amullerand a 'network aware' nova scheduler (Here we're just doing something stupidly simple) is something that's been requested for years anyway21:08
amullercarl_baldwin: yes21:08
amullercarl_baldwin: when the admin will create the provider networks, if a network would only be present in one rack, he could tag that network with 'rack1' or whatever21:08
amullercarl_baldwin: or 'l3_domain_blue"21:08
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amullerand only networks with that tag will be considered when scheduling21:09
amullertags is a generalization of tagging networks with an AZ btw21:09
carl_baldwinamuller: That all makes sense.  But what about the floating IPs like GoDaddy does with route injection and I’m looking to do with BGP announcements?  Do you think we just shouldn’t be doing that?21:10
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amullercarl_baldwin: That is a different problem21:11
amullercarl_baldwin: Calico also21:11
amullerit's just a different problem21:11
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amullerand I haven't thought about that problem much at all21:11
amullerbut, we can solve a lot of the other problems on that etherpad with the nova scheduler enchancement21:12
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amullercarl_baldwin: if we recognize that it's two different problems with two different solutions, that'd be a great first step IMO21:13
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carl_baldwinSo, outside of that etherpad, one thing I’ve been trying to do is map an external network with floating IPs to the same kind of segmented infrastructure.  GoDaddy has implemented it in their infrastructure.21:14
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amullercarl_baldwin: ok, is there more information about that? the problem statement, any specs?21:15
carl_baldwinamuller: I don’t see how you can say that they are two different problems.  The floating IP problem requires a model of the same segemented infrastructure.21:15
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amullercarl_baldwin: It's different problems because you can solve the requirements specified by YY and Yahoo I believe by making the changes I described above, and they didn't mention floating IPs at all21:17
amullerthen you can tackle the floating IPs problem separately21:17
amullerbut I need more info on what you want to do there21:17
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carl_baldwinamuller: I’ve had stuff out there but much of it is out of date.  Let me update it.21:19
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carl_baldwinamuller: I mention it here:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196812/7/doc/source/devref/routed_segments_networks.rst21:22
carl_baldwinBut, I often get the feedback that my specs have too much detail in them so I tried to boil it down to the first step.21:22
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amullercarl_baldwin: I don't see a problem statement in that document so you just lose me right off the bat21:24
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amullercarl_baldwin: Why would I want to model a network as a set of disjoint segments routed at L3? What is a user trying to do that he currenly can't?21:25
amullerhow does their environment look like?21:25
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Define fullstack router/network/subnet management fixture  https://review.openstack.org/19310021:33
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amullerZZelle_: +221:34
amullerZZelle_: Thanks that's gonna help fullstack a lot :)21:34
ZZelle_amuller, i am wondering if it could help fullstack and more21:35
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mlavallecarl_baldwin: ping21:35
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amullerZZelle_: I'll email Ihar and ask him to look at that patch tomorrow21:35
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: pong21:36
ZZelle_amuller, when i see such change https://review.openstack.org/202419, it seems we could reuse in api tests21:36
amullerZZelle_: hmm, Tempest code has its own generic mechanism for clean ups21:36
amullerZZelle_: looks like in that patch they're not using it21:36
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mlavallecarl_baldwin: i'm trying to autogenerate an alembic script with neutron-db-manage. i'm getting FAILED: Target database is not up to date21:37
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amullerZZelle_: I think that patch is wrong, 1 sec21:37
ZZelle_amuller, oups, i never look at neutron/tests/api tests before :s21:38
mlavallecarl_baldwin: any suggestion what that might be?21:38
amullerZZelle_: it's code we copy/pasted from Tempest21:38
amullerwith the intention of removing it from Tempest, and then we just never did that21:38
amullerso now we have tests running twice heh21:38
ZZelle_:|21:38
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amullerZZelle_: look at my comment on that patch21:40
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amullercarl_baldwin: So I think the email thread is missing a lot of information now21:41
amullercarl_baldwin: I can reply to the original email and explain my position again with network tags and the nova scheduler21:42
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: Sorry, I don’t have as much experience with migration as I should have.21:45
anteayamestery: I don't see a follow up patch from Swami to project-config to address mtreinish's nit21:45
mlavallecarl_baldwin: :-)21:45
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anteayamestery: help me ensure andeas will be happy21:46
anteayaor I will be disappointed21:46
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mesteryanteaya: Ack21:53
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anteayamestery: thanks21:55
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Register provider configuration with ServiceTypeManager  https://review.openstack.org/20387821:59
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regXboiarmax: ping? who is the right person to talk to metering about22:01
armaxregXboi: I wouldn’t know for sure22:01
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regXboiit looks like the reference implementation is to implement a iptables chain and and then an iptables rule to jump into the chain22:02
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regXboibut I'm still trying to find what the chain includes22:03
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regXboialthough as I look at it, it looks like it is just keeping a counter that can be pulled22:04
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mlavallekevinbenton: ping22:05
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madhu_aknot sure if you asking about extension metering, then this patch actually implemented it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33075/22:05
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regXboimadhu_ak: that's a snapshot in time earlier than what I'm looking at - I'm looking at the current HEAD22:06
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madhu_akI am unsure about it22:07
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regXboino worries, I'll come back to it tomorrow22:09
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openstackgerritRyan Moats proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: Add instrumentation devref  https://review.openstack.org/20428222:10
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ijwamuller: it really isn't a scheduling problem, or at least one of the use cases isn't22:16
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Ensure non-overlapping cidrs in subnetpools with galera  https://review.openstack.org/18798522:31
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kevinbentonmlavalle: yo23:03
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Tweak wording for project inclusion process  https://review.openstack.org/20429923:13
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/20068223:14
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Swamianteaya: you mentioned that you are going to poush the patch.23:40
Swamianteaya: If you need me to push I will push it right now.'23:41
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Swamianteaya: I have pushed in a follow on patch to address the "nit". #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204314/23:52
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