Monday, 2015-06-22

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openstackgerritMiguel Lavalle proposed openstack/neutron-specs: DNS resolution inside of Neutron using Nova instance name  https://review.openstack.org/8862300:12
openstackgerritMiguel Lavalle proposed openstack/neutron-specs: DNS resolution inside of Neutron using Nova instance name  https://review.openstack.org/8862300:16
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trinathsHi, Good Morning All05:03
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sudiptoamotoki, hi06:29
sudiptoamotoki, have a couple of doubts w.r.t a UT for the neutronclient. Good time to ask?06:29
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: read_hosts_file_leases shouldn't parse stateless IPv6  https://review.openstack.org/19186406:33
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hichiharaping amotoki06:56
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openstackgerritDavid Edery proposed openstack/neutron: Fix subnet creation failure on IPv6 valid gateway  https://review.openstack.org/19388307:29
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: NSX QoS ext: RXTX factor can be decimal  https://review.openstack.org/18966508:00
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openstackgerritPavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Decompose create_port and save_subnet  https://review.openstack.org/19309708:05
openstackgerritPavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Decompose create_port and save_subnet  https://review.openstack.org/19309708:06
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openstackgerritPavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Move _delete_port  https://review.openstack.org/19310608:09
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ajoblogan ping, nmagnezi has questions about octavia :)08:13
ajohe's trying to bring it up in devstack without success08:13
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openstackgerritPavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Decompose _create_subnet_from_pool  https://review.openstack.org/19359508:15
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Disable keepalived process in keepalived func test  https://review.openstack.org/19355808:18
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amotokihichihara: pong08:22
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amotokisudipto: hi. I was in a meeting.08:23
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/19399108:23
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/19399208:23
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hichiharaamotoki: Could you review again? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169612/08:25
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hichiharaamotoki: And I can answer your question now.08:26
amotokihichihara: sure08:26
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/19402608:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Fixes bulk insertion of data to ml2_port_binding  https://review.openstack.org/18269408:31
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amotokihichihara: two questions. The first one is about "az" attribute for networks and routers.08:32
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hichiharaamotoki: OK.08:32
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amotokihichihara: users can specifying a AZ list by posting AZ attr for nets/routers.08:32
amotokihichihara: let's assume we have three az (az1 to az3)08:33
amotokihichihara: user can specify [az1, az2] for a router.08:33
hichiharaamotoki: Yes08:33
amotokihichihara: how can he know which az the router is actually assigined to?08:33
openstackgerritCyril Roelandt proposed openstack/neutron: Python3: use itertools.zip instead of itertools.izip  https://review.openstack.org/19357208:33
amotokihichihara: az1 or az208:34
openstackgerritDavid Edery proposed openstack/neutron: Fix subnet creation failure on IPv6 valid gateway  https://review.openstack.org/19388308:34
amotokihichihara: I wonder a user want to know my router is AZ1, AZ2 or both.08:34
hichiharaamotoki: Users cannot know place of real resource.08:36
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amotokihichihara: From the native purpose of AZ, I think users would like to know an exact AZ.08:37
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hichiharaamotoki: If users create HA-router(two router), the routers are allocated in both08:37
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amotokihichihara: if AZ1 has a tourble, users wants to know my router is affected or not.08:37
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sudiptoamotoki, sorry was about for lunch. I am actually trying to fix something in the neutron client w.r.t https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-neutronclient/+bug/144414608:38
openstackLaunchpad bug 1444146 in python-neutronclient "Subnet creation from a subnet pool can get wrong ip_version" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Sudipta Biswas (sbiswas7)08:38
hichiharaamotoki: The work isn't az. probably another status.08:38
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sudiptoamotoki, I have a fix for the same but the UTs don't work post the fix and i am having a hard time understanding - how i could fix them.08:39
amotokisudipto: np, i am chatting with hichihara. can we talk after it.08:39
sudiptoamotoki, sure...thx...08:39
amotokihichihara: what does "the work" mean? I didn't get you.08:40
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openstackgerritYujiAzama proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Add common classifier resource  https://review.openstack.org/19046308:40
amotokihichihara: one idea is to have two attrs: availabilty_zones and availability_zone_hints.08:41
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hichiharaamotoki: Yes, I can do it but users originally cannot know router status.08:43
openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Switch to oslo_utils.uuidutils  https://review.openstack.org/16069908:43
amotokihichihara: yes, the current behavior of router status is too loose...08:43
amotokihichihara: information of assigned AZ for router/network is a static information08:45
amotokiso I thought it can be achieved more easily.08:45
hichiharaamotoki: You're right.08:45
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amotokihichihara: it is just my opinion. If you want broader opinon, we can ask to the list :-)08:46
amotokihichihara: another question on your reply in patch set 29.08:47
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hichiharaamotoki: Ok, thank you. I'm thinking more and update the spec.08:47
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hichiharaamotoki: 29?08:47
amotokihichihara: the second one is about AZ management.08:47
amotokihichihara: yes, on patch set 29.08:48
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amotokihichihara: nova AZ is implemente on host agg but we can define AZ through API after adding a compute node.08:48
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amotokihichihara: so I haven't fully understood your comment.08:49
hichiharaamotoki: Nova doesn't have AZ API08:50
hichiharaamotoki: It's host agg API.08:50
amotokihichihara: right, but we manage AZ via host-agg API.08:50
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hichiharaamotoki: we need API in host-agg but we don't need API in AZ use case08:51
hichiharaamotoki: The API doesn't exist in cinder08:51
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hichiharaamotoki: Can you provide me the use case we need AZ API?08:54
amotokihichihara: it is true. honestly I am not sure which is better we configure AZ through config or API.08:54
openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Validate tenant_id between firewall and firewall-policy  https://review.openstack.org/18994608:54
hichiharaamotoki: We considered the use case for a long time but we don't find it.08:54
amotokihichihara: strictly speaking, there is no explicit use case for AZ API in Neutron.08:54
amotokihichihara: It is just my quesiton and brainstroming.08:55
amotokihichihara: nova goes a way to expose most features through API. It is one direction.08:56
hichiharaamotoki: Why we need it? because AZ is related to power socket and fixed equipement. deployer don't need to manage freely via API.08:57
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amotokihichihara: perhaps it is because we don't like to maintain config file for compute hosts per AZ.08:58
hichiharaamotoki: On the other hand, host-agg is resource management for compute node08:58
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hichiharaamotoki: It may be right.08:59
amotokihichihara: I don't necessarily oppose the current version. I think others might have a similar questions.09:00
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amotokihichihara: if we actually need API for managing AZ, we may be able to add it later.09:01
hichiharaamotoki: I think too. so I added the message in "Other Deployer Impact"09:01
hichiharaamotoki: Yes!09:01
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hichiharaamotoki: I intended to care your worry.09:03
amotokihichihara: thanks. btw, how can we move forward about the first point?09:04
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hichiharaamotoki: Is first point first question today?09:06
amotokihichihara: yes. a question on how users can know an actual AZ a resource is aggiend to.09:06
hichiharaamotoki: I need more thinking time. I'd like to update the spec by tomorrow.09:07
amotokihichihara: no need to rush :-) thanks.09:07
amotokihichihara: we will add some follow-up comment to your review.09:08
hichiharaamotoki: Thank you!09:08
hichiharaamotoki: Besides, I'd like you to review other spec. When you have time, could you review it too. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170774/09:09
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amotokihichihara: it looks smaller :-)09:11
amotokisudipto: thanks for waiting.09:11
amotokisudipto: even if you don't have a working UTs, you can push your patch to gerrit so that we can help you.09:13
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sudiptoamotoki, ok great. The jenkins would fail - but i will ask for your help then...09:26
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openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce usage data tracking for Neutron  https://review.openstack.org/18888309:31
openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Add DB support for resource usage tracking  https://review.openstack.org/18860809:31
openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Create packages for quota modules  https://review.openstack.org/18861809:31
amotokisudipto: let me know if you post a review.09:33
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openstackgerritAman Kumar proposed openstack/neutron: ovs agent resync may miss port remove event  https://review.openstack.org/16502309:40
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ajohi amotoki  :)09:55
ajohow're you doing?09:55
amotokiajo: hi/09:55
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ajoamotoki: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190635/  I wrote this idea, may be your RPC expertise is helpful for review09:56
ajoI need to push a new version this morning btw09:56
ajoamotoki, when you have 5 minutes I can give you a brief explanation of the idea if you want09:56
amotokiajo: great.09:56
ajothanks amotoki  :)09:58
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amotokiajo: I starred your review, but i could not have time to look so far. looking09:58
sudiptoamotoki, sure,. i will do so today.10:00
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ajoamotoki, if you want a short description at least to get your opinion, I can do on IRC, probably is shorter than going through the full spec10:03
ajoand coments10:03
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amotokiajo: thanks, but I need to go now and will look into the detail tonight.10:04
ajoamotoki, thanks10:05
openstackgerritElena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Switch to oslo.service  https://review.openstack.org/19345510:08
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: lb: stop handling Havana device updates  https://review.openstack.org/19348610:41
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openstackgerritSudipta Biswas proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Determine ip version during subnet create.  https://review.openstack.org/19407810:51
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openstackgerritSudipta Biswas proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Determine ip version during subnet create.  https://review.openstack.org/19407810:54
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Validate tenant_id between firewall and firewall-policy  https://review.openstack.org/18994610:57
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Switch to oslo_utils.uuidutils  https://review.openstack.org/19375411:03
pc_meezhova: hi11:03
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Switch to oslo_utils.uuidutils  https://review.openstack.org/16069911:06
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eezhovapc_m, hello11:14
pc_meezhova: did you file bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1467466? Were you planning on doing a fix? If not, I can fix it.11:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1467466 in neutron "[vpnaas] Unit test failure: cannot import name dvr_router" [Undecided,New]11:14
eezhovapc_m, I would like to try to fix myself. Hope it's as trivial as it seems11:16
pc_mOK. Just take assignment of the bug. I didn't want to start on the bug, if you were going to work on it (I've got enough other things to do :)11:17
pc_meezhova: Thanks for reporting and working on it! Looks like another breakage caused by a neutron change.11:17
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openstackgerritYAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: Reject router-interface-add with a port which doesn't have any addresses  https://review.openstack.org/19344011:18
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eezhovapc_m, ack, I assigned it to myself11:19
pc_meezhova: thanks!11:19
pc_meezhova: It's a bit more than a rename. The create_snat_namespace() method has been removed.11:20
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eezhovapc_m, got it. I'll see what I can do11:21
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openstackgerritJohn Davidge proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce IPv6 Prefix Delegation Linux framework  https://review.openstack.org/15869711:28
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eezhovapc_m, I tried using DvrEdgeRouter in test_ipsec and all works okay (btw, it has the create_snat_namespace() method)11:35
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openstackgerritThomas Morin proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Neutron Extension for BGPVPN  https://review.openstack.org/17774011:36
pc_meezhova: Hmmm. Just thinking... There used to be just DvrRouter. Has that been split into DvrLocalRouter and DvrEdgeRouter?11:36
eezhovapc_m, It seems to me that that was exactly what was done11:37
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pc_meezhova: I think the test was to make sure that VPN would work with a DVR router as well as  vanilla Neutron router.11:37
pc_meezhova: Although, I think VPN works only with the centralized DVR router (not sure if that is the DvrLocalRouter)11:38
eezhovapc_m, so should we add tests for both local and edge routers or just edge will be enough?11:39
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pc_meezhova: I'm not sure that it should be tested with edge at all.11:40
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pc_meezhova: I thought that the DvrLocalRouter is the centralized router. We need to talk to Carl and others to be sure here.11:41
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pc_meezhova: I don't fully understand the DVR changes made recently, but the VPN calls made to add/remove nat rules, and apply IP Table changes should work. I'm concerned about how the namespaces are handled with DVR now.11:44
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eezhovapc_m, I'm trying to find a related spec that change, but no success for now11:45
pc_mThe DVR changes were part of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18536811:46
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eezhovapc_m, looking at the history of that patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185368/9/neutron/agent/l3/dvr_router.py) I start to think that what we need is the edge router. Besides only edge router deals with snat namespaces11:54
openstackgerritJohn Davidge proposed openstack/neutron: Integrate PD Reference Implementation with neutron db & api  https://review.openstack.org/18597711:55
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eezhovapc_m, I'll upload a review which changes DvrRouter to DvrEdgeRouter to see how it works out and will rewrite it in case local router is the right choice11:59
openstackgerritElena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Use DvrEdgeRouter instead of decomposed DvrRouter in test_ipsec  https://review.openstack.org/19410012:01
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pc_meezhova: I don't think that is the right choice. I think it needs to be local router, which is the centralized router. You can check with carl_baldwin, when he gets online12:04
eezhovapc_m, I'll do that, thanks12:05
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openstackgerritElena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Switch to oslo.service  https://review.openstack.org/19299912:34
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-specs: DNS resolution inside of Neutron using Nova instance name  https://review.openstack.org/8862312:38
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sudiptoamotoki, Hi, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194078/ I have posted my patch here, would really appreciate your help in fixing the UT failures.12:55
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openstackgerritElena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Switch to oslo.service  https://review.openstack.org/19299913:09
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openstackgerritMartin Roy proposed openstack/neutron: Use string exception casting everywhere  https://review.openstack.org/19324513:13
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amotokisudipto: looking. I think you need to add additional expected mox call before POST (in _test_create_resource).13:20
sudiptoamotoki, hmm yeah, but it's a GET call that i make to retrieve the subnetpool ip version - so was wondering why a POST call?13:21
sudiptoamotoki, also - this method is being heavily used by other UTs, so should i put a condition on that mox?13:21
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amotokisudipto: honestly I haven't got what is the best approach.13:23
amotokisudipto: self.client.httpclient.request is mocked in _test_create_resource: https://github.com/openstack/python-neutronclient/blob/master/neutronclient/tests/unit/test_cli20.py#L21613:23
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amotokisudipto: and POST expectation is defined at L.216.13:23
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amotokisudipto: there are two options.13:24
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amotokisudipto: the one is to add some hook to define extra mox expections to _test_create_resource.13:24
sudiptoamotoki, ok13:24
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amotokisudipto: the other is to mock test_ip_version_by_id itself.13:25
sudiptoamotoki, ok meaning mock that method and a do a return...?13:25
amotokisudipto: the latter approach is used for extend_list() or something, but in this case I think the first one is straight-forward and easy to understand.13:25
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amotokisudipto: mox is a bit differnt from mock.13:26
sudiptoamotoki, err, yeah i meant mox only - sorry that was a typo13:26
sudiptoamotoki, I'd take the first route i guess..13:27
amotokisudipto: we stubout a method at L.216 and define the expected call at L.260 in test_cli20.py.13:27
amotokisudipto: L.260 in test-cli20.py declares POST call is expected.13:27
amotokisudipto: we need similar line for GET before L.260.13:28
amotokisudipto: If you don't hurry, I can work on it in a couple of days.13:28
sudiptoamotoki, ok and that has to be on a condition i guess, that would ensure it's not called on for other tests.13:29
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amotokisudipto: I just post some comments to your initial version.13:29
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sudiptoamotoki, ok let me check...tx.13:30
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amotokisudipto: you're welcome :-)13:32
openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: l3 agent: do router cleanup for unknown routers  https://review.openstack.org/19062613:33
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sudiptoamotoki, you are OK with the place of the change in the subnet.py right? As in - the place where I am checking for the subnetpool ip version?13:36
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amotokisudipto: subnetpool.py works for me too. what i would like to mention is at least it doesn't fit to __init__.py.13:37
sudiptoamotoki, hmm yeah - agree with that point, I will move that out to the subnet.py file.13:38
john-davidgesc68cal: ping13:39
amotokisudipto: it is used in create-subnet even if it is related to subnetpool. this is the reason I said subnet.py in the comment. it is really a gray-zone, so I think both works.13:39
amotokisudipto: we can explore better place if we call it from multiple modules.13:40
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sudiptoamotoki, I was evaluating what other objects may contain the ip_version... and if the answer is None, then it makes sense to take it off __init__13:41
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amotokisudipto: to me, __init__ is a place for common (or shared) methods (though the current neutronclient structure is not so good)13:43
sudiptoamotoki, yeah - totally agreed. That's the reason, i was looking at other places where ip_version might be used...13:43
sudiptoamotoki, the 'port' object may also have the attribute...13:44
sudiptoamotoki, so in the future if someone wants to determine the ip_version of the port - one should be able to use this method i guess? Though i am not really hell bent on having it in __init__ since i don't know another use case atm13:45
amotokisudipto: hmm... it is a difficult choice. atm subnet or subnetpool sounds good to me because ip_version is related to "subnet"13:46
amotokiand it is not common among all resources.13:46
sudiptoamotoki, yeah the 'port' is another resource where we could possibly have this.13:46
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sudiptoamotoki, but i will move this method to subnet.py - since i don't know of a use case of it with respect to ports13:47
amotokiif it is related to subnet, we can import subnet from port.13:47
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salv-orlandoHenryG, amotoki: I hereby summon the API lieutenants!14:03
HenryGsalv-orlando: I grant you three wishes.14:03
amotokisalv-orlando: hey. I just google "summon" :-)14:03
salv-orlandoHenryG: my first wish is to have three more wishes14:04
HenryGdarn14:04
openstackgerritCyril Roelandt proposed openstack/neutron: Python3: do not use __builtin__  https://review.openstack.org/19415314:04
salv-orlandoAnyway I think I found a leftover from our XML support: PLURALS in neutron.api.v2.attributes14:04
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salv-orlandoI scanned the code and at least for stuff in-tree we do not use anywhere14:04
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salv-orlandoI don't think plugins use it either - at least they shouldn't14:05
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salv-orlandomy question is the following:14:05
salv-orlandoI have a case for a reverse mapping. Given the name of a resource, find its plural14:05
amotokisalv-orlando: totally agree. I just noticed while reading client code.14:05
salv-orlandoso I wonder whether it's ok for you that I do a quick patch to reserve the PLURALS dict14:06
salv-orlandoand I'll use it in the reservation code.14:06
salv-orlandoThere for simplicity I'm registering resources by their singular name14:06
HenryGsalv-orlando: meta-reservation?14:06
salv-orlandobut when I have to count them, I need their plural names14:06
-amotoki- my comment is a response to "I scanned the code ...." line.14:06
salv-orlandoHenryG: nah I don't do metastuff14:06
salv-orlandonot even metamphetamins ;)14:07
salv-orlandoamotoki: sure, I got that.14:07
HenryGsalv-orlando: reservation of PLURALS for reservation code is kind of meta :)14:08
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salv-orlandoHenryG: I see. It seems the role of the api lieutenant entices some sort of irony and sarcams ;)14:08
salv-orlandoIt transforms even the most serious developer into a comedian14:09
amotokiHenryG: salv-orlando always use ironic :-)14:09
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amotokis/ironic/irony/14:09
salv-orlandoanyway... bottom line. Can I repurpose that attribute, or do you prefer that I nuke it and then handle plural mappings in the quota engine?14:09
salv-orlandoamotoki: we should also use ironic14:09
HenryGsalv-orlando: ok, I'll stop :)14:09
salv-orlandoHenryG: before stopping, let me know what you prefer... if you have no opinion, I'll do as I think it's better, which is usually not a good thing14:10
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amotokisalv-orlando: I prefer to general plural mappings rather than handling it in quota engine.14:12
HenryGsalv-orlando: sure, I am scanning the current usage to check. But I think amotoki's word is more authoratative than mine in this case14:12
amotokiHenryG: no woriies. we are open.14:13
HenryGamotoki: then it become an english language parser AI kind of thing?14:13
amotokiI think we are using plural-singular mapping in the attribute maps or API layer.14:13
amotokion the other hand, I sometimes wonders if we can use some language library to map singular to plural.14:15
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HenryGamotoki: no, I think it's fine to have just a map of custom strings14:16
HenryGamotoki: But we should maybe have a two-way dict?14:16
HenryGamotoki: So we can map plural-singular and singular-plural. Maybe like http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1456373/two-way-reverse-map14:17
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amotokiHenryG: it would be nice if the reverse map is generated automatically.14:17
HenryGamotoki: We can discuss that. But let's first answer salv-orlando's question.14:18
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HenryGamotoki: I think he can use PLURALS, yes?14:19
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openstackgerritSridhar Gaddam proposed openstack/neutron: Fix ip_lib get_gateway for default gateway on an iface  https://review.openstack.org/19415914:19
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HenryGamotoki: I mean he can reserve the name PLURALS since it is not actually used currently?14:20
amotokiHenryG: I think it is good to have a common mapping, so we can keep PLURALS.14:21
amotokiif we have a better name, we can rename it.14:21
pc_msalv-orlando: Please check the *aaS repos... VPN uses PLURALS in one place.14:22
HenryGamotoki: ah, so you want to repurpose it?14:22
HenryGpc_m: good call, on the external usages14:22
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pc_mneutron_vpnaas/extensions/vpnaas.py14:23
-amotoki- HenryG: looking at the code.14:23
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amotokiHenryG: I think we can repurpose it. It was introduced for XML, but it is not limited for XML.14:26
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amotokione point I am not sure is how we can use it for extension resources.14:27
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salv-orlandopc_m: it seems to me you're updating the map, and that's it, but not consuming it.14:27
openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: Fix callback registry notification for security group rule  https://review.openstack.org/18758614:28
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salv-orlandothis is what most extensions still do, and that was for the benefit of generating XML responses14:28
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pc_msalv-orlando: Not really sure how all the plural stuff is used.14:28
salv-orlandopc_m: indeed. What I was discussing with amotoki and HenryG is that the stuff is not used anymore.14:29
amotokipc_m: it was only used to get plurals for XML response.14:29
salv-orlandoamotoki: automatic generation is a good point. Not sure whether it's worth the effort in light of pecan switch.14:29
HenryGamotoki: I am not sure what you mean for extension resources?14:29
pc_mamotoki: so it is not used in handling requests?14:30
* pc_m really naive on the API14:30
amotokiHenryG: what I would like to mention is that an extension updates attrs.PLURALS.14:30
HenryGamotoki: but they don't read it14:31
HenryGamotoki: it's a no-op14:31
amotokiHenryG: right.14:31
salv-orlandoamotoki: is your point that by reppurposing it we'll have to change all the extensions as well?14:31
salv-orlandoand that some extensions might be off tree?14:31
salv-orlandoand therefore we'll break them if we repurpose PLURALS?14:31
amotokisalv-orlando: no. I think we can repurpose it.14:33
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amotokisalv-orlando: what I thought is if PLURAL should be static or can be changed by extensions, but it seems there is no problem.14:33
HenryGcan we keep attributes.PLURALS (maybe make it an empty dict) and create a new utils.plurals.PLURALS?14:33
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HenryGtoo messy?14:34
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salv-orlandoPLURALS is no less messy than the RESOURCE_ATTRIBUTE_MAP14:36
salv-orlandoso I think it's fine the way it is.14:36
amotokiI thin we can keep it. isn't utils.plurals.PLURALS API-version neutral?14:37
salv-orlandoBut we can do some basic encapsulation and make it a two-way dict14:37
salv-orlandoamotoki: yes it is version neutral. It's just a mapping of plural names with their singular versions. It has nothing to do really with the API.14:38
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HenryGSo I would like to see PLURALS eventually removed from attributes.py then. For now we can make it an empty dict to prevent external writes from breaking.14:42
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HenryGThen salv-orlando can go ahead an make a spiffy new general two-way plurals utility?14:43
HenryGBut maybe I am just sounding like the one with three wishes now?14:44
-amotoki- seems to have some beer and is thinking slowly.14:45
* HenryG wonders if it is better to apply some YAGNI and not get too carried away14:46
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amotokiFrom what I understand, (1) what we really need is a way to map sigular to plural, (2) PLURAL is no longer used and there is no need to keep it in api.v2.attrs. (3) it is API version neutral.14:48
salv-orlandoamotoki: yeah, that's correct.14:48
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salv-orlandobut the requirement #1 is because of the way in which I have redesigned quotas, so perhaps I can keep the mappings in the quota registry I have defined14:48
salv-orlandoand just remove forever PLURALS for neutron.api.v2.attributes14:49
salv-orlandoor even more lazily keep it there forever and let it rot14:49
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amotokisalv-orlando: one question is how we can handle plurals defined in *aaS repos (or others).14:51
salv-orlandoamotoki: one answer is that these repos register their resources with the quota  engine and create API controller using methods in neutron.api.v2.resource14:52
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salv-orlandoso perhaps, if I get your question correctly, we don't need to explicitly change anything there unless we change the interfaces exposed by neutron.api.v214:53
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amotokisalv-orlando: ah.. I got it. I totally forgot that Controller take singular and plural forms.15:00
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HenryGamotoki: salv-orlando: I am going to be away for a few hours. Let me know what you decide.15:04
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amotokisalv-orlando: HenryG: I don't have a strong opinion on having a new utils or having mapping in the quota registry at now. I understood we can remove PLURALS in attrs safely.15:07
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amotokiIf we have a new utils for plurals, we can determine collection_name of create_resources automatically, but it is another thing.15:10
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amotokisalv-orlando: what is your preference?15:10
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salv-orlandoI have no strong opinion, but my gut feeling is that we should not create code harness for stuff we don't use. So I'd rather add singular/plural mappings to serve the purposes of the quota resource registry, and the push a tentative patch to remove PLURALS, and check whether there's some issue with that.15:19
salv-orlandowe might just find out that some *aas job fails because they were using it at the end of the day15:19
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salv-orlandoamotoki: ^^15:19
openstackgerritPavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor and decompose db_base_plugin_v2.py  https://review.openstack.org/15323615:20
salv-orlandobesides, so far we only know that vpnaas is not leveraging it, but lbaas or fwaas might. I have not checked their extensions.15:20
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pc_msalv-orlando: Both FW and LB use PLURALS in an update call.15:22
pc_mneutron_fwaas/extensions/firewall.py, neutron_lbaas/extensions/loadbalancer.py, neutron_lbaas/extensions/loadbalancerv2.py15:22
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amotokisalv-orlando: I don't see any problem in your direction. if we need some steps for *aas before remoiving used PLURALS in attrs, let's do it though I don't see any usage in lbaas/fwaas too.15:23
amotokisalv-orlando: your approach is small start and uses no dead code. it sounds good.15:26
amotokiregarding plural utils discussed above, if we can/need to improve plural form handling, we can do it then.15:26
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salv-orlandoamotoki: sounds like the colour for this bike shed has been chosen then.15:40
salv-orlandoamotoki: thanks for your time.15:40
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amotokisalv-orlando: thanks for your patience. sorry a bit slow understanding.15:41
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lindycoderZZelle: are you the Cedrick who commented on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193245/4/neutron/agent/linux/ip_lib.py ?15:46
lindycoderZZelle: If so:  casting an exception basically invokes the __str__ which by default will return the .message, how will encoding change anything from what was already there?   (Not a unicode/encoding specialist)15:47
openstackgerritAssaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Prepare for full stack CI job  https://review.openstack.org/19390515:47
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ZZellelindycoder, Cedric, yes15:48
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Ease debugging alembic by passing proper scripts path in alembic.ini  https://review.openstack.org/19419715:48
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: [neutron-db-manage] generate new revisions in split trees  https://review.openstack.org/19419815:48
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amullermarkmcclain: Sorry I pushed a new revision on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193905/ just as you approved it amazingly enough15:50
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amullermarkmcclain: just updated a doc I forgot about15:50
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ZZelleamuller, markmcclain  we should not wait https://review.openstack.org/193906 approval before approving https://review.openstack.org/193905?15:55
amullerZZelle: no, the reverse15:55
amullerI want the Neutron patch in first15:55
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ZZelleamuller, i know but neutron change is merged and config is not approved we will no more run fullstack tests?15:56
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amullerZZelle: That's right15:56
amullerZZelle: I'm 100% with that15:56
ZZelleamit213, ok15:57
ZZelleoups,15:57
ZZelleamuller, ok15:57
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lindycoderZZelle: i don't understand the comment about unicode on my patch, would you mind explaining?15:59
openstackgerritCyril Roelandt proposed openstack/neutron: Python3: do not set Request.body to a text string  https://review.openstack.org/19420716:00
vishwana_amotoki, hi16:00
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ZZellelindycoder, unicode('é') crashs, i don't remember if some string crashs with str()16:01
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markmcclainamuller: good call on updating the docs.  I've re-added my +A16:06
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amullermarkmcclain: Thanks, now I just have to get the infra guys on board :)16:07
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lindycoderZZelle: i just tried it in ipython, i don't see any problem, can you show a concrete example or point me toward an online resource because i really don't understand what's wrong16:11
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* pasha117 is looking for core reviewers for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193097/16:36
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: fix rootwrap debug filter for ping all  https://review.openstack.org/19257816:37
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openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Implement routing network segments in Neutron  https://review.openstack.org/17224416:39
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openstackgerritRawlin Peters proposed openstack/neutron: Optimize ipset usage in IptablesFirewallDriver  https://review.openstack.org/19325916:45
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ildikovkevinbenton: hi16:57
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amotokivishwana_: what?17:39
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vishwana_amotoki, hi, wanted to run by you my approach to resolve the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1465440 .....17:41
openstackLaunchpad bug 1465440 in neutron "Firewall attribute "Shared" is set to None by default instead of 'False'" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to vishwanath jayaraman (vishwanathj)17:41
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amotokivishwana_: ah.. got it. I am going to bed. let me check tomorrow.17:42
vishwana_amotoki, SumitNaiksatam added his comments to the bug and provided additional context and recommended that the shared attribute be not exposed to UI....17:42
vishwana_amotoki, good nite, we can discuss tomorrow17:42
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amotokivishwana_: I saw his comment about the initial background.17:43
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vishwana_amotoki, I was thinking that we should still fix the part in neutron-fwaas code where the default shared attribute is not currently being written to DB...followed by hiding the attribute in Horizon UI....we can discuss this tomorrow further, Thanks17:44
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openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: Move windows requirements to requirements.txt  https://review.openstack.org/18573917:59
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Fix fip agent gateway port delete when migrating a fip  https://review.openstack.org/18040818:05
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openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: Move windows requirements to requirements.txt  https://review.openstack.org/18573918:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Prepare for full stack CI job  https://review.openstack.org/19390518:26
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openstackgerritAssaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Uniquely identify tunnel interfaces  https://review.openstack.org/19377018:32
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Fix FloatingIP Namespace creation in DVR for Late Binding  https://review.openstack.org/17750718:45
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Fix FloatingIP Namespace creation in DVR for Late Binding  https://review.openstack.org/17750718:50
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Fix DVR interface delete by port when gateway is set  https://review.openstack.org/17300119:13
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ihrachyshkazzzeek, ping re db migration plan19:29
zzzeekihrachyshka: hey19:29
ihrachyshkazzzeek, that was quick :) so I have a patch just to get grasp of whether the file structure and pointers between separate scripts are as per expectation: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194198/1 can you quickly check migrations on whether they are set properly? I had some issues with depending on branch labels, so fell back to hashes, though it seems wrong.19:30
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zzzeekihrachyshka: ok right now “Depends_on” does not support branch labels, it needs hashes.  that’s a feature I can add however19:31
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zzzeekihrachyshka: then also, if we did use branch labels in depends_on, it would be more specific if it referred to a version anyway, like liberty_expand_offline@head19:32
zzzeekihrachyshka: unless you actualy mean liberty_expand_offline, that actual file19:32
zzzeekthat is, branch labels are really “file labels”19:33
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ihrachyshkazzzeek, yeah, we should probably have @head, right. I just thought from what is written in spec that it's the same when it comes to labels19:33
zzzeekit’s just when we add <label>@<something> it becomes “the head of the branch that includes the version <label>"19:33
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ihrachyshkaok, got it on that one. now, we also maintain HEAD in the source tree. it now becomes unclear what is really a HEAD since we diverge into multiple parallel paths. should we just kill the notion?19:35
zzzeeker, “the <somehting> of the branch that includes the version <label> “ :)19:35
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zzzeekihrachyshka: a HEAD is still a thing, it means a branch file that has no descendants19:35
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zzzeekihrachyshka: so, your DB can be upgraded to multiple HEAD versions at once19:35
ihrachyshkayeah, but I mean specific thing, the one that is updated at: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/neutron/tree/neutron/db/migration/cli.py#n12419:36
zzzeekihrachyshka: Ok so the len(script.get_heads()) > 1 thing has to go19:37
ihrachyshkaor should we have HEADS now? :) I guess it's used for testing only, not sure of any more usage to this. HenryG, what's HEAD file in db migrations really for?19:37
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zzzeekihrachyshka: hm OK so you ahve a file called “HEAD” with a number in it?19:37
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ihrachyshkazzzeek, yes, that's the case19:38
zzzeekihrachyshka: if you need that for something, you can call it HEADS and put multiple numbers in it sure19:38
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zzzeekihrachyshka: are other ppl doing that and what is that for ?19:38
ihrachyshkazzzeek, afaik we have a test that validates it's the correct one (the real @head)19:38
zzzeekihrachyshka: OK19:38
ihrachyshkaI suspect that's a smart way to avoid trees19:38
zzzeekihrachyshka: I’d read the branching docs in alembic really carefully since you are doing things with it19:38
zzzeekihrachyshka: well trees are OK now :)19:39
ihrachyshkanow that we will have trees by design, it may be just irrelevant19:39
zzzeekihrachyshka: :)19:39
zzzeekihrachyshka: im all for that.19:39
ihrachyshkabut we may still want to avoid trees inside up-level trees, so maybe HEAD file per expand/contract subtree19:39
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ihrachyshkaok, that's mostly cleared.19:40
ihrachyshkanow, for backward compat with upgrade head19:40
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ihrachyshkaI guess I now need to make some magic inside neutron-db-manage to apply all heads for all subtrees when we get mere upgrade head call. is it the case?19:41
zzzeekihrachyshka: well are you still going to support that19:42
zzzeekihrachyshka: if you have expand/contract it will run the whole thing19:42
zzzeekihrachyshka: if so, yes19:42
zzzeekihrachyshka: its just “upgrade heads"19:42
ihrachyshkayeah, but UI wise, we want to continue supporting old cli, which is 'upgrade head'19:43
ihrachyshkafor those who don't care about reducing the number of offline migrations19:43
zzzeekOK if you want to s/head/heads/ you can, but I’d be wary of trouble :)19:43
zzzeekihrachyshka: b.c. it will be confusing19:43
zzzeekihrachyshka: potentially19:44
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ihrachyshkawell, I don't want two in parallel, so probably just 'upgrade head'. I just wanted to check that it's the expected behaviour - applying all heads on branch-less head upgrade called19:44
zzzeekihrachyshka: when you say “upgrade head” and there’s no branches, it works because there is only one “head”, it picks that19:45
zzzeekihrachyshka: if there is more than one head, now it deosnt know, so it says, “please tell me heads or a specific head"19:45
zzzeekihrachyshka: thats how the system doesnt break existing things until people explicitly build separate heads19:45
ihrachyshkazzzeek, yeah, but neutron-db-manage should behave the usual way. we don't want to expose those multiple heads to those who want to do business as usual.19:46
zzzeekihrachyshka: its fine to do it, i have a tiny sense that maybe its going to make things confusing in some way somewhere but i cant anticipate how19:47
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ihrachyshkazzzeek, ok, ack and thanks for the chat. I think I have more stuff to do for a day or two until I get confused or unsure again.19:48
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zzzeekihrachyshka: OK, thanks for moving fwd so fast on this19:48
zzzeekihrachyshka: i need to kick myself and get gthe alembic part finished19:48
ihrachyshkathat's the first time I touch any db or alembic stuff, so I'm permanently lost for now :)19:48
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openstackgerritBrian Haley proposed openstack/neutron-specs: [WIP] "Get me a network" spec  https://review.openstack.org/18485719:49
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ihrachyshkaok, I'm off, cu19:49
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zzzeeklates19:50
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18274619:55
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/19399119:55
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russellbmeeting today?20:04
russellbor is my calendar off20:04
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sc68calrussellb: it's on my calendar for 2100 UTC20:04
sc68calrussellb: in an hour20:05
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russellbsc68cal: d'oh20:06
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18274620:15
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/19399120:15
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/19399220:16
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Override opportunistic database tests to PyMySQL  https://review.openstack.org/19326221:00
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Delete FIP agent gateway port with external-net-delete  https://review.openstack.org/15933221:14
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Cleanup the fip agent gateway port delete routines  https://review.openstack.org/19438321:14
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vishwana_mestery, dougwig, hi....patchset https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190336/ is now ready for core review....Thanks21:19
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mesteryvishwana_: ack sir, will take a peek soon21:20
vishwana_mestery, thanks21:20
emaganavishwana_: I will review21:20
vishwana_emagana, thanks21:20
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18274621:38
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/19402621:43
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armaxrussellb: btw it looks like you’re right: https://github.com/stackforge/ec2-api#openstack-ec2-api-readme22:00
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tidwellremagana: ping22:00
armaxI wonder how puzzling that might be for the user22:00
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russellbyar22:00
sc68calI wonder if ec2-api actually has code to talk to neutron22:01
sc68calor does it assume nova-network22:01
armaxsc68cal: it looks like there is some neutron in there22:02
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armaxhttps://github.com/stackforge/ec2-api/blob/master/ec2api/api/security_group.py#L45322:02
armaxsc68cal: ^^22:02
emaganatidwellr: Yes!22:03
armaxgreat polymorphism at play22:03
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sc68calok - then i guess I should put my money where I mouth is and reach out to the maintainers of that if I'm so terribly interested in AWS compatability between it and neutron (although it might not need any actual work)22:03
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tidwellremagana: the neutron meeting reminded me we need docs for the subnetpools extension. I dropped the ball in Kilo, I'd like to make it right :). How would I go about submitting docs?22:04
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ZZelle_armax, hi22:06
emaganaFirst create the bug in openstack-manuals22:06
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armaxZZelle_: hello22:06
emaganaand then use a current API as a reference for your Doc22:06
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emaganatidwellr: I am assuming you will document this?22:06
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tidwellremagana: yes, I'll write the docs22:07
ZZelle_armax, does every plugin support bulk port create?22:07
emaganatidwellr: Well, that is the path to go22:07
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ZZelle_armax, some context: currently nova creates (during boot) ports one by one but nova could use bulk port create?22:08
tidwellremagana: thanks22:08
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emaganatidwellr: let me know if I can help22:08
tidwellremagana: for sure22:08
armaxZZelle_: I think that’s an advertised property22:09
ZZelle_armax, advertised? through an extension?22:11
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armaxthrough a plugin’s attribute22:12
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ZZelle_armax, so not available to users :(22:14
armaxum…what do you mean exactly?22:14
ZZelle_armax, yes => https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/a3226a405c3850f56f9f3d9c4dde28c55537cbd5/neutron/common/config.py#L5922:14
ZZelle_armax, a user cannot deduce without trying a buk post that bulk post is supported22:15
armaxZZelle_: well that’s a global22:15
armaxyes22:15
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ZZelle_armax, we need to wait for salv-orlando features API22:15
armaxZZelle_: see https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/api/v2/base.py#L11822:16
armaxI don’t think that’s exposed via the API though22:16
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ZZelle_armax, ok, i will wait for features API or add an option in nova to use bulk port create22:19
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armaxZZelle_: we should check the python-neutronclient to see how that works22:21
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armaxI am a bit surprised that there is no cunning way to discover that22:22
armaxZZelle_: we’d have the same problem for pagination22:22
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ZZelle_salv-orlando, ^ any opinion on the topic22:24
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yamahataemagana: ping?22:43
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emaganayamahata: Hi!22:43
yamahataemagana: I'd like to hear your opinion on a documentation bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-site/+bug/146582722:44
openstackLaunchpad bug 1465827 in openstack-api-site "neutron: tenant_id is of uuid type but the implementation accepts free string of 255 bytes" [Undecided,New]22:44
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yamahataemagana: is this a right way to report? or should I discuss somewhere?22:45
emaganayamahata: Let me take a look22:47
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emaganayamahata: Seems that we needs to fix the Docs22:48
emaganabecause the code is flexible on this parameter type*22:48
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yamahataemagana: Thanks. I'm willing to help it.22:49
emaganayamahata: I would vote for yes to bug 146582722:49
openstackbug 1465827 in openstack-api-site "neutron: tenant_id is of uuid type but the implementation accepts free string of 255 bytes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146582722:49
emaganaIt should be very easy to fix in Docs, ping me if you get into issues submitting your patch22:49
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yamahataemagana: I'm afraid that components/drivers assumes that tenant_id is uuid. we don't know affected area.22:50
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yamahataemagana: I guess it would be better to draw attention before silently fixing documentation.22:51
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emaganayamahata: Maybe sending an email of the openstack-dev neutron ML22:52
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Add RPC command, delete if last FIP on Agent  https://review.openstack.org/15931722:53
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openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Create a routing table manager  https://review.openstack.org/19203223:06
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openstackgerritRitesh Anand proposed openstack/neutron: Added functional tests for L3 schedulers.  https://review.openstack.org/17749923:29
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openstackgerritBrian Haley proposed openstack/neutron: Add IPset cleanup script  https://review.openstack.org/17459023:36
openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Delete FIP agent gateway port with external-net-delete  https://review.openstack.org/19444123:37
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openstackgerritIvar Lazzaro proposed openstack/neutron: Decompose Apic ML2 mechanism driver  https://review.openstack.org/19336523:39
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