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| neutron_newbie | my neutron server log shows connection full messages and keystone is experiencing authentication failure for token | 03:05 |
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| lizk | Please help, a basic question about neutron-lbaas, why do we need subnet_id to create pool, does it necessary to keep members, vip and pool are from the same subnet, or just keep members and vip are from the same subnet is enough? Can any guys give some confirm conclusion? | 03:47 |
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| kevinbenton | hanzhang: pong | 04:28 |
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| rm_work | lizk: because the LB needs to know what networks to plug to the appliance, so that it can talk to pool members | 04:40 |
| rm_work | members and pool need the same subnet | 04:41 |
| rm_work | since the pool is actually what controls the network plugging | 04:41 |
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| neutron_newbie | Please help me to understand these messages in neutron/server.log: WARNING urllib3.connectionpool [-] Connection pool is full, discarding connection: keystone2 | 04:48 |
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| lizk | rm_work: thanks for your answers | 05:07 |
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| lizk | Please help. We can find members' IP in HAProxy configure file, but not subnet_id of members, so do we still need keep members are from the same subnet of pool's ? Can any guys give some confirm conclusion? | 05:58 |
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| lizk | rm_work, since you didn't reply me, so I had to ask again. BTW, thanks!~ | 06:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: DO NOT REVIEW this is a test https://review.openstack.org/187486 | 07:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Oleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: Wrap ML2 delete_port with db retry decorator https://review.openstack.org/180466 | 07:40 |
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| yamamoto | was there any procedure change for governance repo recently? | 07:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor type_tunnel/gre/vxlan to reduce duplicate code https://review.openstack.org/187011 | 08:05 |
| salv-orlando | yamamoto: not that I am aware of, why are you wondering? | 08:07 |
| yamamoto | salv-orlando: because "git review" is failing for me | 08:07 |
| yamamoto | with "error: failed to push some refs to ..." | 08:08 |
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| salv-orlando | yamamoto: usually that error message also tells you why the remote push has been rejected (eg: changese closed, or not authorized) | 08:15 |
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| yamamoto | (change 182936 closed) | 08:16 |
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| yamamoto | what does it mean? | 08:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Move pool dispose() before os.fork https://review.openstack.org/185898 | 08:17 |
| yamamoto | does the number mean https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182936/ this? | 08:19 |
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| hanzhang | salv-orlando: can you help to review this patch:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177159/ | 08:20 |
| yamamoto | i guess i somehow was trying to push my old review? i'll check. thank you! | 08:20 |
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| salv-orlando | yamamoto: I think you just are using some change-id from an old review. Try and remove the change-id from the commit message, a new one will be generated | 08:24 |
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| yamamoto | salv-orlando: it's entirely possible. thank you! | 08:26 |
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| ajo | yes, yamamoto , sounds like that, | 08:31 |
| ajo | salv-orlando, the typical uuid collision :P :P ;D | 08:31 |
| ajo | yamamoto, go and play lottery today ;D | 08:31 |
| yamamoto | heh | 08:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Handle SIGHUP: neutron-server (multiprocess) and metadata agent https://review.openstack.org/161732 | 09:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Handle SIGHUP: neutron-server (single process mode) https://review.openstack.org/170905 | 09:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor TestRpcWorker and TestWorkerService https://review.openstack.org/187153 | 09:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Neutron QoS API Extension, addressing comments. https://review.openstack.org/187513 | 10:13 |
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| ZZelle | amotoki_, hi | 10:30 |
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| amotoki_ | ZZelle: hi | 10:30 |
| ZZelle | amotoki, if you have some times, could you look at https://review.openstack.org/179955 ? In order to allow its backport in kilo | 10:31 |
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| amotoki_ | ZZelle: sure. looking | 10:32 |
| ZZelle | amotoki_, thx | 10:32 |
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| Boopalan | i checkout neutron code. Can any one help me how to run neutron code if do some fix? | 10:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | vikram.choudhary proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: [WIP] BGP Dynamic Routing https://review.openstack.org/111318 | 11:20 |
| vikram | This patch is WIP.. Please don't review .. | 11:21 |
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| samueldmq | morning | 11:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Romil Gupta proposed openstack/neutron: ovs agent resync may miss port remove event https://review.openstack.org/165023 | 12:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Neutron QoS API Extension, addressing comments. https://review.openstack.org/187513 | 12:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Romil Gupta proposed openstack/neutron: ovs agent resync may miss port remove event https://review.openstack.org/165023 | 12:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Jaume Devesa proposed openstack/neutron-specs: BGP dynamic advertise routes https://review.openstack.org/125401 | 12:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jaume Devesa proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Dynamically advertise routes via BGP https://review.openstack.org/125401 | 12:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor and decompose db_base_plugin_v2.py https://review.openstack.org/153236 | 12:49 |
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| russellb | kevinbenton: yeah, DHCP agent least likely to go away in an OVN env. It may get added to OVN, but if so, more likely driven by use cases outside of OpenStack | 13:00 |
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| samueldmq | could you guys confirm this bug in neutron side ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1458945 | 13:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1458945 in murano "Use graduated oslo.policy instead of oslo-incubator code" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Ekaterina Chernova (efedorova) | 13:07 |
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| ihrachyshka | samueldmq, there is another bug for neutron for this. let me search for it | 13:08 |
| ihrachyshka | samueldmq, https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1426082 | 13:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1426082 in neutron "neutron should consume oslo.policy" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Ihar Hrachyshka (ihar-hrachyshka) | 13:08 |
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| samueldmq | btw shihanzhang just assigned himself/herself to the one I submitted | 13:09 |
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| samueldmq | ihrachyshka, nice, would you mind to keep the one I submitted, as that is affecting all the projects that still need to address this ? | 13:10 |
| samueldmq | ihrachyshka, this way we can keep track of the whole adoption in the openstack ecosystem | 13:10 |
| ihrachyshka | samueldmq, done | 13:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Handle SIGHUP: neutron-server (multiprocess) and metadata agent https://review.openstack.org/161732 | 13:11 |
| samueldmq | ihrachyshka, I am marking it as confirmed as well, in the other bug report | 13:11 |
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| samueldmq | ihrachyshka, thank you ! :) | 13:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: Remove get_dhcp_port RPC method https://review.openstack.org/187345 | 13:16 |
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| pavel_bondar | ihrachyshka, hi | 13:17 |
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| pavel_bondar | ihrachyshka, thanks for quick and nice review yesterday! | 13:17 |
| pavel_bondar | ihrachyshka, finally my first patch is merged in:) | 13:17 |
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| ihrachyshka | pavel_bondar, congrats. that tells a lot about neutron community though. :) | 13:19 |
| pavel_bondar | :) | 13:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/182746 | 13:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Handle SIGHUP: neutron-server (single process mode) https://review.openstack.org/170905 | 13:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Oleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: Fix callback registry notification for security group rule https://review.openstack.org/187586 | 13:43 |
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| luv | hey. i see there have been changes before juno and current git master in how security groups are handled | 13:45 |
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| luv | in juno, secgroups listed by nova secgroup-list and neutron security-group-list match | 13:45 |
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| luv | in current git master the security groups listed in nova use integers as ids | 13:46 |
| luv | http://pastebin.blesmrt.net/prxnwhbbq#line-1 | 13:46 |
| luv | im having a problem here (git master) with security group rules added with secgroup-add-rule not being applied | 13:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Handle SIGHUP in ovs neutron agent https://review.openstack.org/187174 | 13:47 |
| luv | (if I do manually "iptables -I neutron-openvswi-i7ef3a004-c 2 -j RETURN" on the hypervisor the incoming ssh connection works) | 13:47 |
| luv | http://pastebin.blesmrt.net/p8bakiyx4 | 13:48 |
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| luv | any hints/what to look for much appreciated :) | 13:48 |
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| luv | but if neutron-openvswitch-agent in pdb and break at agent/securitygroups_rpc.py _update_security_group_info security_groups are the groups from neutron | 13:57 |
| luv | group ids | 13:57 |
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| luv | http://pastebin.blesmrt.net/peyp0facz ... security groups defined in neutron | 14:00 |
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| luv | yes | 14:02 |
| luv | if i add the rule using "neutron security-group-rule-create --port-range-min 0 --port-range-max 255 --ethertype ipv4 --protocol icmp a73604dc-bde4-46cd-802a-7ea3be3fde2d" everything works | 14:03 |
| luv | but the docs say to use "nova secgroup-add-rule default icmp -1 -1 0.0.0.0/0" ... http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/install-guide/install/apt/content/launch-instance-neutron.html | 14:03 |
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| luv | oh!! | 14:09 |
| luv | http://pastebin.blesmrt.net/psghyiunw | 14:10 |
| salv-orlando | luv: I would love to assist you but I'm not really knowledgeable about nova security groups... have you tried asking in #openstack-nova? | 14:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Handle SIGHUP in ovs neutron agent https://review.openstack.org/187174 | 14:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Handle SIGHUP: neutron-server (multiprocess) and metadata agent https://review.openstack.org/161732 | 14:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Handle SIGHUP: neutron-server (single process mode) https://review.openstack.org/170905 | 14:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Handle SIGHUP: neutron-server (single process mode) https://review.openstack.org/170905 | 14:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor TestRpcWorker and TestWorkerService https://review.openstack.org/187153 | 14:20 |
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| luv | thanks. i'll try to ask nova guys | 14:30 |
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| marun | markmcclain: my takeaway from those discussion was that feature branches shouldn't live for more than a couple of weeks | 14:53 |
| marun | markmcclain: Because the merge penalty grows too large | 14:53 |
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| markmcclain | right | 14:54 |
| marun | markmcclain: are you saying the same thing and I'm misreading you, or are you suggesting that longer-lived branches are desirable? | 14:54 |
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| markmcclain | so for big items in our setup.. longer lived branches make sense... ie major disruptive refactor or add-on big feature | 14:55 |
| ajo | marun, I believe markmcclain agrees with you | 14:55 |
| ajo | markmcclain, markmcclain , how do feature branches work exactly? | 14:55 |
| ajo | sorry | 14:55 |
| ajo | X) | 14:55 |
| ajo | marun, markmcclain | 14:55 |
| ajo | are those reviewed/not reviewed via gerrit? | 14:55 |
| markmcclain | ajo: yes... swift has used them for major features that aren't quite ready within 1 cycle | 14:56 |
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| ajo | markmcclain, and those feature branches are sync'd from master periodically, I guess ? | 14:57 |
| markmcclain | yeah | 14:57 |
| ajo | ok, I guess it's a way to do it | 14:57 |
| markmcclain | feature branches can have separate reviews which is both good and bad | 14:58 |
| markmcclain | good because velocity could be improved | 14:58 |
| markmcclain | but possibly bad if the reviewers are not aligned with master | 14:58 |
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| ajo | my plan is to have master alignment :), since I want it merged back | 14:58 |
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| ajo | ok, I'll observe how have we been using feature branches, and how other projects do, and discuss with mestery | 14:59 |
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| dougwig | my thoughts to ajo on the lbaas feature branch: | 15:00 |
| dougwig | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/zw7j5iiR | 15:00 |
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| ajo | thanks dougwig , will read | 15:00 |
| ajo | ahh :D | 15:00 |
| ajo | I actually read it before ;D | 15:01 |
| dougwig | you've seen it already. :) | 15:01 |
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| ajo | ok, need to run for today, thanks everybody | 15:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Update rootwrap.conf to add /usr/local/bin https://review.openstack.org/187460 | 15:02 |
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| markmcclain | dougwig: agree with those comments | 15:03 |
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| sc68cal | dougwig: I agree with what you've said | 15:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Romil Gupta proposed openstack/neutron: ovs agent resync may miss port remove event https://review.openstack.org/165023 | 15:03 |
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| ilyashakhat | ihrachyshka: hi! do you have any plans on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/autogen-neutron-conf-file ? | 15:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: DO NOT MERGE: test patch to see whether we are broken by recent oslo releases https://review.openstack.org/187630 | 15:19 |
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| yamamoto | russellb: ping | 15:24 |
| russellb | pong | 15:24 |
| yamamoto | russellb: hi | 15:24 |
| yamamoto | russellb: i have a question about stackforge -> openstack move process | 15:24 |
| russellb | sure | 15:24 |
| yamamoto | russellb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184159/ | 15:25 |
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| yamamoto | russellb: if this is merged, what will be the next step? | 15:25 |
| russellb | that's it, really | 15:25 |
| ihrachyshka | ilyashakhat, nope. I thought emagana was going to tackle it though | 15:25 |
| russellb | it's blocked because merging those requires gerrit downtime | 15:25 |
| russellb | so they do it in a maintenance window | 15:25 |
| yamamoto | russellb: does it actually move the repo? | 15:26 |
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| russellb | you put up a change like that, and add it to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Upcoming_Project_Renames | 15:26 |
| russellb | yamahata: the infra team does it when they merge it | 15:26 |
| emagana | ilyashakhat: Yes, I have that in my backlog :-) | 15:26 |
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| ilyashakhat | ihrachyshka, emagana: ok, I see :) | 15:27 |
| emagana | ihrachyshka and ilyashakhat: I started last cycle but could not completed in time | 15:27 |
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| Carlos | hello | 15:27 |
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| russellb | yamamoto: ^ | 15:27 |
| ilyashakhat | emagana: do you have any patches to look at? | 15:27 |
| Carlos | I have a question regarding cisco nexus plugin and vlan creation on a Nexus switch. Anyone can help me, please ? | 15:28 |
| emagana | ilyashakhat: no yet! I found a bunch of issues when I tried.. | 15:28 |
| yamamoto | russellb: no particular order in the list? | 15:28 |
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| russellb | yamamoto: no, not that i know of | 15:28 |
| yamamoto | russellb: no need to ping infra folks after adding an item on the list? | 15:29 |
| russellb | nope :) | 15:29 |
| russellb | the patch and adding it to that list is enough to notify them | 15:29 |
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| yamamoto | russellb: ok. i'll try it tomorrow. thank you! | 15:30 |
| russellb | you're welcome! | 15:30 |
| HenryG | Carlos: can you hop over to #openstack-cisco where rcurran will help you? | 15:31 |
| Carlos | for sure! thanks HenryG :) | 15:32 |
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| Carlos | bye! | 15:32 |
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| neubee | Can someone help me understand how to setup my linksys home router to have a default gateway for the management network and another for the floating-ip network | 15:36 |
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| neubee | it has DD-rwt on it | 15:36 |
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| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin, hi | 15:57 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: hi | 15:57 |
| neubee | hello pavel | 15:57 |
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| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin, thanks for review and merge yesterday:) | 15:57 |
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| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: You’re very welcome. Good work. | 15:58 |
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| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin, would like to bring your attention to one question I have, trying to start discussion in comments for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153236/75/neutron/db/db_base_plugin_v2.py | 15:58 |
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| pavel_bondar | neubee, hi | 15:59 |
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| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: I just read the question. I will need to get to it a bit later but will today. | 16:02 |
| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: sure, thanks! | 16:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/182746 | 16:07 |
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| metadojo | hello need help for multiple gateways 1 for management and 1 for floating ip network | 16:24 |
| metadojo | so i can reach the internet from a VM | 16:24 |
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| yamamoto | russellb: ping | 16:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Use a single method to remove an address with its conntrack state https://review.openstack.org/186150 | 16:28 |
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| luv | salv-orlando: so i figured it out ... I forgot to set security_group_api = neutron in nova.conf | 16:29 |
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| luv | took me a while following the source code to determine what I have wrong in the config file but hey | 16:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Remove get_dhcp_port RPC method https://review.openstack.org/187345 | 17:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/182746 | 17:12 |
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| otherwiseguy | mestery: pc_m: We're getting ready to do some downstream packaging work on VPNaaS. Who can I bribe for a second +2 on this backport? :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185519/ | 17:17 |
| pc_m | otherwiseguy: I'll look now. | 17:17 |
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| pc_m | otherwiseguy: Already +2 | 17:18 |
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| pc_m | otherwiseguy: So, anyone from the driver's team can review... mestery, dougwig, amotoki ^^ | 17:19 |
| mestery | otherwiseguy: +2/+A. Please send beer to my home address :) | 17:19 |
| * otherwiseguy addresses beer to "Mestery's Home Address" and sees what happens | 17:19 | |
| mestery | lol | 17:20 |
| otherwiseguy | mestery: thanks! | 17:20 |
| mestery | otherwiseguy: Thank you for rebasing a few times! | 17:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Delete FIP agent gateway port with external-net-delete https://review.openstack.org/159332 | 17:21 |
| otherwiseguy | ha. :) yeah, we forgot to update .gitreview in the local downstream repo for packaging. Oops. :) | 17:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron: DO NOT MERGE, ci test 2 https://review.openstack.org/177996 | 17:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron-specs: ML2/OVS QoS support with bandwidth limiting https://review.openstack.org/182349 | 17:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Remove unused _uuid function alias from test_iptables.py https://review.openstack.org/187070 | 18:05 |
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| edmondsw | mestery: you aware of your blog being categorized as Malicious Sources/Malnets by Blue Coat's WebFilter? http://sitereview.bluecoat.com/sitereview.jsp | 18:07 |
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| mestery | edmondsw: Nope, thanks for the tip. I suspect this is from back when it was using wordpress, which itself is a malware hosting platform. | 18:08 |
| mestery | edmondsw: Now I'm using hugo to generate static pages | 18:08 |
| russellb | yamamoto: pong | 18:09 |
| edmondsw | mestery: yeah... good luck getting off their list | 18:09 |
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| yamamoto | russellb: hi. i had another question but asked infra folks. thank you! | 18:10 |
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| mestery | edmondsw: yeah, fun times for sure. | 18:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | mestery is pretty malicious :) | 18:12 |
| mestery | Is it that obvious? Man, I need to get better with my intent then. | 18:12 |
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| russellb | yamamoto: great, i'm glad you got an answer :-) | 18:12 |
| pc_m | mestery: ping | 18:13 |
| mestery | pc_m: hi there | 18:14 |
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| pc_m | mestery: For the RFEs I submitted. Now that there are submission guidelines, I can update. Do I just add info to the description, replace the description I have, or add the additional info as a comment on the LP bug? | 18:15 |
| mestery | pc_m: Replace the description | 18:15 |
| pc_m | mestery: OK. Will do | 18:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Saksham Varma proposed openstack/neutron: Moving out the cisco n1kv section to stackforge https://review.openstack.org/187710 | 18:16 |
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| salv-orlando | mestery: isn't tacker the servicevm project? | 18:32 |
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| russellb | salv-orlando: it is ... err, was ... they pivoted, heh. | 18:40 |
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| salv-orlando | russellb: I see... it's now the apotheosis of the acronym cravers | 18:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Saksham Varma proposed openstack/neutron: Moving out the cisco n1kv section to stackforge https://review.openstack.org/171451 | 18:53 |
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| mestery | salv-orlando: no, it's now a VNF manager and the Intel folks have left that project from what I can tell | 19:03 |
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| mestery | edmondsw: A simple filling out of the form was enough to remove my blog from the malware category at blue coat. | 19:05 |
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| edmondsw | hey, lucky you... I filled it out ealier today, and they rejected my request | 19:05 |
| edmondsw | mestery ^ | 19:06 |
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| mestery | edmondsw: What can I saw, I've got boyish good looks. And on top of that, I'm not using a malware hosting platform (Wordpress) for my blog anymore. :) | 19:06 |
| edmondsw | lol | 19:06 |
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| mestery | :D | 19:06 |
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| prometheanfire | how can python-neutronclient-2.6.0 support python3.4 when it's test-dependency of cliff-tablib only supports up to python3.2? | 19:08 |
| prometheanfire | did someone miss something? | 19:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Add devref that explains fullstack testing and its direction https://review.openstack.org/187730 | 19:09 |
| amuller | marun: mestery: ^ | 19:09 |
| mestery | amuller: Yay! Looking now. | 19:09 |
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| amuller | mestery: that's just for full stack testing, it's not the full on testing doc I promised | 19:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Add RPC command to delete FloatingIP Agent GW Port https://review.openstack.org/159317 | 19:14 |
| amuller | mestery: you're quick | 19:15 |
| mestery | amuller: It was an easy read. It's a great start, mostly just some nits and clarifications. | 19:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kyle Mestery proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Add spec for reference implementation split https://review.openstack.org/176501 | 19:18 |
| marun | /url 3 | 19:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: Add sub-project lieutenants https://review.openstack.org/187733 | 19:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: Add sub-project lieutenants https://review.openstack.org/187733 | 19:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Modify ipset functional tests to pass on older machines https://review.openstack.org/186956 | 19:42 |
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| baoli_ | kevinbenton: ping, RE: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178666/. Can you provide feedback on this one whenever you get a chance? Thanks | 19:54 |
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| markmcclain | baoli_: you probably want arosen to take a look too | 19:59 |
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| baoli_ | markmcclain: sure. let me add him | 20:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Add devref that explains fullstack testing and its direction https://review.openstack.org/187730 | 20:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Add RPC command to delete FloatingIP Agent GW Port https://review.openstack.org/159317 | 20:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Delete Floatingip agent gateway port through rpc https://review.openstack.org/187769 | 20:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Add RPC command to delete FloatingIP Agent GW Port https://review.openstack.org/159317 | 20:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Delete Floatingip agent gateway port through rpc https://review.openstack.org/187769 | 21:00 |
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| kevinbenton | russellb: ping | 21:03 |
| russellb | kevinbenton: pong! | 21:03 |
| kevinbenton | russellb: what is the plan for OVN for DHCP? | 21:04 |
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| russellb | "might be nice eventually, maybe" | 21:04 |
| russellb | is the plan | 21:04 |
| russellb | :) | 21:04 |
| kevinbenton | ok :) | 21:04 |
| russellb | not all that valuable for openstack, but would use it if it was there | 21:05 |
| russellb | IMO | 21:05 |
| russellb | but it's a few notches down the priority list of things to add | 21:05 |
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| kevinbenton | russellb: but don't you need that to wipe out the dhcp agent? | 21:07 |
| russellb | yes | 21:07 |
| russellb | but can just use neutron agent in the meantime | 21:07 |
| mestery | kevinbenton: Wipe it out Mad Max style! | 21:07 |
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| mestery | :) | 21:07 |
| kevinbenton | baoli_: done | 21:07 |
| russellb | still haven't fully implemented what's needed to do what ovs agent does | 21:07 |
| russellb | like provider networks ... | 21:07 |
| russellb | which is next on my list to document a proposal for | 21:07 |
| baoli_ | kevinbenton: thank you very much | 21:08 |
| kevinbenton | russellb: i've been secretly adding features to it to make sure you can't kill it | 21:08 |
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| russellb | kevinbenton: that's fair | 21:08 |
| kevinbenton | russellb: it has a fully functional turing machine now | 21:08 |
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| sc68cal | OVN will need a section in the networking guide about the internals | 21:08 |
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| russellb | sc68cal: fair point | 21:08 |
| kevinbenton | :) | 21:08 |
| russellb | i get in a writing mood now and then | 21:08 |
| * sc68cal is the documentation nazi | 21:09 | |
| russellb | orly? | 21:09 |
| russellb | but yeah, i'm with you, good docs, including troubleshooting guide | 21:09 |
| russellb | are required to be a real thing | 21:09 |
| sc68cal | openvswitch's documentation is _atrocious_ | 21:09 |
| mestery | sc68cal: Speaking of documentation items ... can you point me at the nova-network/neutron stuff referenced in Vancouver during the sessions we had with the nova folks? | 21:09 |
| russellb | sc68cal: what's atrocious about it? | 21:09 |
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| sc68cal | russellb: openvswitch.org 's main page has a tab for documentation, which goes to http://openvswitch.org/support/ | 21:10 |
| sc68cal | which is basically the manpage reference and some blog posts | 21:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Delete Floatingip agent gateway port through rpc https://review.openstack.org/187769 | 21:10 |
| kevinbenton | i believe the general concern is that it's based on openvswitch, right? | 21:10 |
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| russellb | man pages are quite detailed though :) | 21:11 |
| sc68cal | I honestly got better information about openvswitch by reading the openflow protocol specification | 21:11 |
| sc68cal | that's sad. | 21:11 |
| russellb | they tend to put all their detailed docs in man pages it seems | 21:11 |
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| russellb | anyway, i'm not here to defend their docs heh | 21:11 |
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| sc68cal | manpage docs, they all assume you know what the F you are doing, and just looking for the right invocation | 21:12 |
| russellb | kevinbenton: there is an unfortunate level of ovs hate in the openstack community that seems largely misinformed | 21:12 |
| russellb | a lot of parroting | 21:12 |
| russellb | a lot of "i don't like change!" | 21:12 |
| russellb | some outdated info | 21:12 |
| russellb | some mixing of ovs itself vs past issues with ovs openstack integration | 21:12 |
| kevinbenton | i heard it isn't web scale | 21:12 |
| sc68cal | The problem is there's no real good documentation about what OVS is, what it does, why you'd want to use it | 21:12 |
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| sc68cal | for someone just getting started | 21:12 |
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| sc68cal | hence the hate and suspicion | 21:13 |
| kevinbenton | and it doesn't even have XML support | 21:13 |
| russellb | lol | 21:13 |
| dougwig | we just need to merge a patch that adds OVS support to nova-net, then it'll be all good. | 21:14 |
| sc68cal | other way - merge a patch that adds nova-net as a plugin for Neutron | 21:14 |
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| russellb | dougwig: people might figure out it works fine, and we can't have that | 21:14 |
| kevinbenton | sc68cal: i talked with quite a few people about the idea of a "nova network on neutron" plugin | 21:15 |
| kevinbenton | that matches the l3 model as much as possible | 21:15 |
| kevinbenton | based on linux bridge | 21:15 |
| kevinbenton | etc | 21:15 |
| sc68cal | yep | 21:15 |
| kevinbenton | but i think the issue would be getting enough interested contributors | 21:15 |
| mestery | the problem is they don't just hate OVS, they also hate the general architecture of neutron, so not sure how a nova-net plugin for neutron would help anyone | 21:16 |
| sc68cal | frankly that'd be the way to have distributed routers on the linux bridge side | 21:16 |
| russellb | mestery: the idea of tenant networks? | 21:16 |
| mestery | russellb: The idea of neutron itself vs. the simplicity of nova-net | 21:16 |
| mestery | It's more stuff to manage | 21:16 |
| russellb | ah, well, yeah. | 21:16 |
| sc68cal | I think most of that is due to the extra flag you have to use for nova boot | 21:17 |
| dougwig | *cough* provider nets *cough*. | 21:17 |
| russellb | dougwig: right... | 21:17 |
| russellb | dougwig: but you're still running more services to get that | 21:17 |
| mestery | yup | 21:17 |
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| sc68cal | not quite, at least on the HVs it's running neutron agent vs nova-net | 21:17 |
| dougwig | i'm running python, how is process tightness even a concern? | 21:17 |
| russellb | lol | 21:17 |
| sc68cal | maybe on controller you have the dhcp agent and the neutron server, but meh... | 21:17 |
| mestery | Post sarcasm, I believe we have a good plan to address lots of these issues, though the elephant in the room is the neutron architecture and deployers distaste of said architecture | 21:18 |
| russellb | sc68cal: in multi-host mode at least | 21:18 |
| russellb | in non multi-host, don't need nova-network on HVs | 21:18 |
| sc68cal | russellb: yes, but only the brave don't run multi-host | 21:18 |
| * russellb nods | 21:19 | |
| russellb | mestery: yeah, i think the plan for this cycle is good and very reasonable | 21:19 |
| mestery | russellb: Excellent! | 21:19 |
| sc68cal | mestery: I think the people who dislike the architecture, the provider nets gives them the escape hatch out | 21:19 |
| russellb | yep | 21:19 |
| russellb | that needs to be communicated more | 21:19 |
| russellb | and honestly, the networking guide does a great job | 21:20 |
| russellb | and i think most people haven't looked at it lately | 21:20 |
| russellb | because i was seriously impressed and pleasantly surprised when i pulled it up recently | 21:20 |
| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am worked so hard at it he lost his appendix | 21:20 |
| sc68cal | no animals were harmed in the making of the networking guide, only people's internal organs | 21:20 |
| kevinbenton | can confirm: no mention of an appendix in http://docs.openstack.org/networking-guide/ | 21:21 |
| mestery | seriously good work on that guide | 21:21 |
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| kevinbenton | can someone explain to me what the term "provider networks" means? | 21:23 |
| russellb | kevinbenton: "confuses people" | 21:23 |
| kevinbenton | it makes no sense to me since as of ML2, every network has provider attributes | 21:23 |
| russellb | "physical network" ? | 21:23 |
| sc68cal | kevinbenton: first paragraph of http://docs.openstack.org/networking-guide/deploy_scenario4a.html# | 21:23 |
| kevinbenton | sc68cal: i just read that | 21:24 |
| kevinbenton | sc68cal: it's not clear | 21:24 |
| kevinbenton | sc68cal: which is why i asked | 21:24 |
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| sc68cal | guess I'll have to fix it | 21:25 |
| russellb | or kevinbenton could fix it! | 21:25 |
| kevinbenton | i can't because i really dislike that term :/ | 21:25 |
| sc68cal | the provider networking API extension gave you a way to map VLANs that may exist on a ToR switch, into Neutron | 21:25 |
| russellb | doesn't have to be vlans though right? | 21:25 |
| sc68cal | russellb: nope, couple different segment types are supported | 21:25 |
| russellb | i was trying to figure out what all was supported | 21:26 |
| russellb | couldn't find it | 21:26 |
| russellb | but i didn't look that hard either | 21:26 |
| kevinbenton | sc68cal: you can use the VLAN type in ML2 and have a ToR driver that plumbs the VLANs dynamically | 21:26 |
| dougwig | --provider-but-kevin-hates-that-name-so-it-means-direct-physical-plugging | 21:26 |
| sc68cal | http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-networking-v2-ext.html | 21:27 |
| sc68cal | provider:network_type (Optional) | 21:27 |
| sc68cal | flat, vlan, vxlan, gre | 21:27 |
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| sc68cal | kevinbenton: right, but the provider networking ext came wayyy before ML2 was there | 21:27 |
| russellb | dougwig: neutronclient patch! | 21:28 |
| kevinbenton | sc68cal: i know, and now that ML2 is here, every network has provider attributes | 21:28 |
| kevinbenton | sc68cal: so the term does not make any sense any more | 21:28 |
| kevinbenton | sc68cal: and it confuses me so i don't know how to talk to people when they ask about them | 21:28 |
| sc68cal | should we rename it to bare metal networks? | 21:28 |
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| russellb | i like "direct physical plugging" as a tl;dr description | 21:29 |
| kevinbenton | but what makes it bare metal? | 21:29 |
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| kevinbenton | if i have the VLAN type driver loaded in ML2, what's the difference? | 21:29 |
| sc68cal | the difference is that usually you use a non-OpenStack router for your L3 | 21:29 |
| sc68cal | and L2 is mapped to vlans that exist on your ToR | 21:29 |
| sc68cal | or whatever your network type is | 21:29 |
| kevinbenton | right, but l2 is mapped to vlans on the ToR with the VLAN type driver anyway | 21:30 |
| kevinbenton | so is it really just "non-L3 Neutron" | 21:30 |
| sc68cal | only if you have a ML2 driver that supports your ToR | 21:30 |
| russellb | kevinbenton: i thought i understood this, stop bursting my happy bubble | 21:30 |
| kevinbenton | ? | 21:30 |
| sc68cal | some network switches don't have a mechansim driver yet | 21:30 |
| sc68cal | in ML2 | 21:30 |
| sc68cal | so you'd go and configure your hardware, then create a network in Neutron with that information you set in your hardwar | 21:31 |
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| russellb | and there keep being rumors that ML2 is getting burned in a fire | 21:31 |
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| kevinbenton | sc68cal: so admin-created networks then | 21:31 |
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| kevinbenton | sc68cal: where you want to specify a specific VLAN for each network | 21:32 |
| sc68cal | kevinbenton: that's part of it, but there is more than that | 21:32 |
| sc68cal | since we also support admin created networks that are shared | 21:32 |
| * echirivella Hi everybody | 21:32 | |
| kevinbenton | sc68cal: what else is there? | 21:33 |
| sc68cal | kevinbenton: the fact that how the network is realized on the phyiscal networking gear is being set as attributes in the network | 21:34 |
| kevinbenton | russellb: even if ML2 was going away, the way encap types are held for each network is pretty nice and I don't imagine that leaving | 21:34 |
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| sc68cal | It just so happens that the ML2 mech drivers re-use some of these semantics, since they're actively going out and programming physical network gear after getting a create request from the API | 21:34 |
| kevinbenton | sc68cal: that's admin-created networks where they match a provider attribute | 21:34 |
| russellb | kevinbenton: *nods* | 21:34 |
| sc68cal | while in the provider networking way, it's where the admin sets up the phyiscal network gear, then feeds that info into neutron | 21:35 |
| sc68cal | reversed, see? | 21:35 |
| kevinbenton | sc68cal: yes, it's just admin-created networks overriding the automatic allocation of a VLAN, correct? | 21:35 |
| russellb | hope you all have a nice evening | 21:36 |
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| kevinbenton | russellb: ttyl | 21:36 |
| sc68cal | kevinbenton: no, at least in the OVS plugin, the dirty detail is that OVS uses internal vlan tags, then on the external bridge there is a rewrite flow where the internal VLAN tag that is assigned is then rewritten to the VLAN tag that the phyiscal equipment is using | 21:37 |
| sc68cal | which was stored as the segmentation_id | 21:37 |
| sc68cal | so for example: ovs vlan #1 for network qqqqqq-aaaaaa has a segmentation ID of 247 | 21:37 |
| kevinbenton | sc68cal: that's how every VLAN-based network works whether or not the admin specifies the vlan | 21:37 |
| sc68cal | so a flow goes vlan_1 -> vlan 247 | 21:37 |
| kevinbenton | in ml2 | 21:37 |
| sc68cal | on exit | 21:37 |
| kevinbenton | sc68cal: yeah, that's the standard vlan logic for ML2 OVS | 21:38 |
| kevinbenton | so if you create a network without specifying a vlan and the VLAN type driver is set as default | 21:38 |
| kevinbenton | the type driver will allocate the next in the range | 21:38 |
| kevinbenton | and then all of that same agent-logic will be followed to remap the local vlan to whatever one is chosen by the type driver | 21:39 |
| sc68cal | Typically the vlans programmed on the switch are not the vlans set in that vlan tag range | 21:39 |
| sc68cal | I might have vlans 1000-2000 mapped for tenant networks | 21:40 |
| sc68cal | but vlan 204 is used for external connectivity | 21:40 |
| kevinbenton | right, that's fine | 21:40 |
| dougwig | Ml2 vlans are for isolation and the neutron node is in the mix for external | 21:40 |
| kevinbenton | so then it comes down to just the admin specifying the VLAN id rather than letting the type driver select it | 21:40 |
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| dougwig | Traffic. Provider vlans are like plugging your can into your physical switch | 21:40 |
| dougwig | Phone typing. | 21:41 |
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| kevinbenton | because the logic to the OVS agent is exactly the same for any VLAN type | 21:41 |
| kevinbenton | it doesn't matter whether or not the admin selected a VLAN outside of the range or not | 21:41 |
| kevinbenton | dougwig: plugging your can? | 21:42 |
| kevinbenton | dougwig: but tenant networks can also just be like plugging into your physical switch if you trunk all VLANs in the tenant VLAN range down to the compute node | 21:43 |
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| dougwig | How do you map that to shared infrastructure? Demux externally? | 21:44 |
| dougwig | The use case is having all your vms show up on your existing corporate lan, eg. | 21:45 |
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| kevinbenton | dougwig: right, if you need a specific VLAN for a network, then you just have to have the admin allocate it and specify the desired VLAN | 21:45 |
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| dougwig | And that's a provider network. :) | 21:46 |
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| kevinbenton | see, this diagram is awesome: http://docs.openstack.org/networking-guide/_images/scenario-provider-ovs-controller2.png | 21:46 |
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| kevinbenton | but it's just a description of how the VLAN type is handled by the OVS agent | 21:46 |
| kevinbenton | dougwig: so a provider network is an admin setting the VLAN tag rather then allowing auto allocation? | 21:47 |
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| kevinbenton | sc68cal: would you say that's the key to provider networks ^^ | 21:49 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: that's the technical difference | 21:50 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: but use cases for provider networks and tenant networks are different | 21:50 |
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| amuller | kevinbenton: but I'm not saying anything new so ignore me | 21:50 |
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| kevinbenton | amuller: can you give me some example provider network use cases? | 21:51 |
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| kevinbenton | amuller: obviously matching a corporate VLAN is to get onto that specific network | 21:52 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: that | 21:52 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: and not using the l3 agent | 21:52 |
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| amuller | kevinbenton: so you use only provider networks and physical gateways | 21:52 |
| amuller | for all your VMs | 21:52 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: and not using the DHCP agent | 21:53 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: well you can skip the l3 agent with tenant auto allocated VLANs as well | 21:53 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: not with ml2 + ovs? | 21:53 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: you mean with a way to control physical hardware as well I'd imagine | 21:53 |
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| amuller | kevinbenton: like with really big switches ;-) | 21:54 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: yeah, if you need different addressing on each VLAN, then you would need to program the L3 something | 21:54 |
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| kevinbenton | amuller: how do you not use the DHCP agent and have your VM IPs match the IP allocated to the Neutron port? | 21:55 |
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| amuller | kevinbenton: one way is to not :) | 21:56 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: I've seen deployed | 21:56 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: you just ignore the IP allocated by Neutron | 21:56 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: and then no security groups I assume... | 21:56 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: this is using Neutron and wishing it was nova network | 21:56 |
| amuller | neutron lite | 21:56 |
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| kevinbenton | amuller: so tl;dr - provider networks are just specifying the VLAN tag or physnet to get VMs onto pre-provisioned infrastructure | 21:58 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: yes, you "provide" the VMs with a pre-existing networks | 21:58 |
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| amuller | I guess that's where the name comes from, it's awful | 21:58 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: i assumed it came from "provider" being the underlying infrastracture | 21:59 |
| amuller | yeah | 21:59 |
| amuller | the same in my mind | 21:59 |
| kevinbenton | sc68cal: would you agree with that tl;dr? | 22:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sc68cal: lol, just read scrollback | 22:30 |
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| amuller | Sam-I-Am: <-- also killed his appendix a while ago | 22:33 |
| amuller | I did it by eating too many jelly beans | 22:33 |
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| amuller | wow out of context that remark is incredibly odd | 22:36 |
| amuller | I'll leave you with that, toodles | 22:36 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: ping | 23:20 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: are you sure we weren't intentionally issuing multiple deletes to really make sure the record is gone? ;) | 23:21 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1461102 | 23:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1461102 in neutron "cascade in orm relationships shadows ON DELETE CASCADE" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Salvatore Orlando (salvatore-orlando) | 23:21 |
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