Friday, 2015-05-08

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openstackgerritenikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: Add logging of agent heartbeats  https://review.openstack.org/18113200:37
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/neutron: Ensure netfilter is enabled for bridges  https://review.openstack.org/18086701:14
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HenryGkevinbenton: ping01:20
kevinbentonHenryG: pong01:20
HenryGkevinbenton: https://review.openstack.org/17332001:20
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HenryGkevinbenton: I know it's not yours any longer, but do you understand why the bsnstacklib-unittests fail on this?01:21
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HenryGLooks like it is pulling partly from trunk and partly from the patch?01:22
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HenryGThe nec unittest-with-neutron seems to be doing the same01:22
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kevinbentonno, it just pulls from the patch01:23
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HenryGok, so the plugin implements get_port_from_device() and needs to be updated?01:24
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kevinbentonHenryG: yep01:25
kevinbentonHenryG: https://github.com/stackforge/networking-bigswitch/blob/master/bsnstacklib/plugins/bigswitch/plugin.py#L11501:25
kevinbentonHenryG: i will fix it01:26
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HenryGkevinbenton: thanks, I'll look for the nec one and submit a patch there01:26
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kevinbentonHenryG: here is the bsn fix. pretty simple https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181269/101:35
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HenryGkevinbenton: You prolly need a "Depends-on:" in the commit msg01:36
kevinbentonHenryG: that doesn't actually work right for the way the bsn UTs run01:36
kevinbentonHenryG: it will just fail until Dane's patch merges01:37
HenryGkevinbenton: ok01:37
kevinbentonHenryG: it has @master hard-coded in the test reqs01:37
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HenryGkevinbenton: ah yes, vendor repos do that01:38
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lazy_princeHi All, is it possible to run neutron as a standalone service for dev work..?01:42
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lazy_princeany pointers will be helpful..01:42
HenryGkevinbenton: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173320/7/neutron/plugins/oneconvergence/plugin.py01:44
HenryGoneconvergence plugin is probably using db.get_session()01:44
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kevinbentonHenryG: possibly01:45
* HenryG looks for the repo to check01:45
kevinbentonHenryG: assuming nvsb is some kind of database accessor :)01:45
* HenryG can't find the repo01:45
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kevinbentonHenryG: but this won't break them either way so it's not a big deal01:46
HenryGkevinbenton: agreed01:46
openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: setup port filters when sg rules change  https://review.openstack.org/18127201:49
HenryGkevinbenton: Actually it's in-tree01:50
HenryGhttps://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/oneconvergence/lib/nvsd_db.py#L2301:50
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HenryGkevinbenton: looks like Dane missed it01:50
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HenryGkevinbenton: The nec fix, https://review.openstack.org/18127401:52
kevinbentonHenryG: looks good :)01:53
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openstackgerritCyril Roelandt proposed openstack/neutron: Allow users to run 'tox -epy34'  https://review.openstack.org/18127702:10
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jasonsbi have a dnsmasq question02:39
jasonsbi'm doing some tests and was curious what is conventional wisdom with respect to scaling dhcp/dnsmasq02:40
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openstackgerritwatanabe isao proposed openstack/neutron: Bug-Fix for unexpected DHCP agent redundant  https://review.openstack.org/13865902:44
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openstackgerritQthCN proposed openstack/neutron: _validate_mac_address do not check if it's input is None  https://review.openstack.org/18128202:50
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HenryGamotoki: ping03:16
amotokiHenryG: pong03:18
HenryGamotoki: https://review.openstack.org/18127403:18
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amotokiHenryG: oh, thanks. Last and this weeks are holiday weeks in japan and i am just back to the office today.03:19
openstackgerritCyril Roelandt proposed openstack/neutron: Allow users to run 'tox -epy34'  https://review.openstack.org/18127703:22
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: Add conntrack-tool to manage security group  https://review.openstack.org/14771303:45
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openstackgerritRyan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: Block subnet create when a network hosts subnets allocated from different pools  https://review.openstack.org/18029904:10
openstackgerritRyan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: Block subnet create when a network hosts subnets allocated from different pools  https://review.openstack.org/18029904:10
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openstackgerritwatanabe isao proposed openstack/neutron: Bug-Fix for unexpected DHCP agent redundant  https://review.openstack.org/13865904:13
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: Add conntrack-tool to manage security group  https://review.openstack.org/14771306:11
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/18087906:15
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Check for missing network in _bind_devices  https://review.openstack.org/18118506:32
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openstackgerritwatanabe isao proposed openstack/neutron: Bug-Fix for unexpected DHCP agent redundant  https://review.openstack.org/13865906:55
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: setup port filters when sg rules change  https://review.openstack.org/18127206:59
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openstackgerritenikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: Serialize port binding operation with db-access semaphore  https://review.openstack.org/18131007:26
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hanzhangkevinbenton: I have address the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181272/, can you help to review it again?08:07
kevinbentonhanzhang: can you check out my comments on the bug report? https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/145271808:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1452718 in neutron "Create sg rule or delete sg rule, iptalbes can't be reload" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to shihanzhang (shihanzhang)08:09
hanzhangok, let me check08:09
kevinbentonhanzhang: i don't understand what the failure scenario is08:10
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hanzhangkevinbenton: I have reply in https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/145271808:19
openstackLaunchpad bug 1452718 in neutron "Create sg rule or delete sg rule, iptalbes can't be reload" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to shihanzhang (shihanzhang)08:19
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kevinbentonhanzhang: https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/scenario/test_security_groups_basic_ops.py#L359 does exactly what you said08:33
kevinbentonhanzhang: right?08:33
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kevinbentonhanzhang: i ask because i'm concerned that the tempest tests aren't providing the coverage we think08:44
hanzhangkevinbenton:yes, let me check why this https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/scenario/test_security_groups_basic_ops.py#L359 pass08:44
kevinbentonhanzhang: thank you08:44
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Limit router gw ports' stateful fixed IPs to one per address family  https://review.openstack.org/16778410:18
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: Send 'security_groups_member_updated' when port'ip changes  https://review.openstack.org/17715910:33
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gsagie_I am running a 2 nodes setup with devstack, when the controller is up everything works fine, when i start the compute node ./stach.sh after it goes up i suddenly can't access the API in the controller, for example when i try to do "neutron port-list" i get a message like this "Couldn't find Networking in Region One..." (something like that)10:41
gsagie_anyone noticed something similar?10:41
moshelegsagie_: I haven't seen this but if you post your local.conf in controller and compute I will compare it with mine10:47
gsagie_its not the local.conf, because the same configuration worked for me before, i just pulled the code so i guess it something new that got into keystone10:48
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moshelegsagie_: so maybe you can change the branches to kilo and only neutron will be master?10:50
gsagie_moshele: yeah will try that, was hoping someone will have magic solution for me before trying that :), but i guess i will just do that, thanks!10:51
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moshelegsagie_: :)10:51
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Define IptablesNatDriver stateful nat driver  https://review.openstack.org/18116811:19
openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Stateless nat: tc library  https://review.openstack.org/17724511:19
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openstackgerritSergey Belous proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor checks for device existence  https://review.openstack.org/14755411:26
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jsheerenhey11:30
jsheereni have a question about live migration11:31
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jsheerenwe are experiencing a networking issue:  when i start an instance and assign a floating ip, i can reach the instance just fine11:31
jsheerenwhen i start a live migration, the instance becomes unreachable11:31
jsheerenwhen i do a tcpdump, i can see that the ping requests are still being received by the old compute node, instead of the new compute node11:32
jsheerenhas anyone experienced this before?11:32
jsheerenam i right to assume that the arp cache does not get updated?11:32
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openstackgerritSridhar Gaddam proposed openstack/neutron: Fix typos related to IPv6 use-cases  https://review.openstack.org/17500913:05
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Define IptablesNatDriver stateful nat driver  https://review.openstack.org/18116813:24
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pc_mmestery: ping13:24
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mesterypc_m: good morning!13:25
pc_mmestery: Happy Friday!13:25
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pc_mmestery: Can you help me get driver cores to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168115? This is to improve functional tests to no longer spin up devstack.13:26
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pc_mmestery: Want to get this in place, so that the functional tests that are being created will use the new mechanism.13:27
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mesterypc_m: I'll see what I can do, I know folks have been busy with summit prep too13:28
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pc_mmestery: Thanks!13:29
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gsagie_pc_m: your link is wrong13:30
gsagie_sorry my bad13:30
pc_mmestery: Would like to chat with you some time, either at the summit or before, about Neutron work. There's not much left in VPN area (some testing of StrongSwan, some vendor things).13:31
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mesterypc_m: Ack on that13:35
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sc68calSridharG: sorry for the review, but the more I read that paragraph the more I didn't like it as it is today13:37
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openstackgerritSridhar Gaddam proposed openstack/neutron: Fix typos related to IPv6 use-cases  https://review.openstack.org/17500913:47
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SridharGsc68cal: np :-)13:49
SridharGsc68cal: its always good to see review comments, rather than having a patch in the same state forever.13:50
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mennieGood morning, I was wondering if anyone knows if Brocade ADX really do VXLAN / VTEP ?14:23
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openstackgerritBaodong (Robert) Li proposed openstack/neutron: Add VIF_DELETED notification event to Nova  https://review.openstack.org/17866615:17
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18059815:18
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jasonsbi have a dnsmasq question if anybody is up for it15:25
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jasonsb5 compute node, 1 controller node, running tempest server-basic-ops in parallel15:26
jasonsbworks great up to about 30.  by 60 fully half are failing15:26
jasonsblooks like a race between nova launch time vs neutron dhcp service being able to create the netns and get dnsmasq started up15:27
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jasonsbis this something handled by operational finesse, or is this a race which should be handled better?15:27
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haleybjasonsb: what version of openstack?  There was a recent change to dhcp startup that helped here, had to do with logging entries inside a loop, don't have the bug # offhand15:37
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jasonsbhaleyb: ubuntu juno15:37
amullerjasonsb: there's a known race there though15:37
jasonsbi hand patched in 138206415:38
amullerjasonsb: nova is notified when the neutron port is plugged, but the DHCP agent is not guaranteed to have added the entry to the dnsmasq hosts file in time15:38
jasonsband 1385257 and i also reported new bug 145149215:38
openstackbug 1451492 in neutron "DELETE /v2.0/ports/uuid.json causes SQL error in log" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1451492 - Assigned to Eugene Nikanorov (enikanorov)15:38
jasonsbamuller: yes, that sounds like it15:39
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jasonsbamuller: is this solved by running dhcp service in a bunch of places?  or is race looking to be fixed?15:39
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jasonsbhaleyb: if you have bug# i would like to take a look15:41
amullerjasonsb: I'm not aware of anyone actively working to fix that race at this time15:42
haleybjasonsb: just found it, 144520215:42
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amullerjasonsb: I don't think we even have an open bug on it *hint hint*15:42
jasonsbamuller: i got it.  let me see what i can do operationally.  seems its a tricky thing getting everything to balance out15:43
jasonsbhaleyb: thanks, looking at bug now15:44
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haleybjasonsb: i can't remember why it was abandoned, but you could check the code in stable/juno15:44
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jasonsbamuller: happy to file a bug15:45
haleybjasonsb: check bug 1414218, it is in stable/juno now15:46
openstackbug 1414218 in neutron juno "Remove extraneous trace in linux/dhcp.py" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1414218 - Assigned to Stephen Ma (stephen-ma)15:46
amullerjasonsb: sounds good15:46
jasonsbamuller: since its tempest its easy to explain how to reproduce15:46
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jasonsbamuller: maybe i can add one small comment.  i think it would be nice to have a home for tempest tests which can apply some real world load and verify good behavior15:52
jasonsbif anybody has opinion on matter maybe could comment in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-ops-user-committee15:53
amullerjasonsb: Sounds like Rally15:53
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openstackgerritPavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: IPAM reference driver  https://review.openstack.org/15048515:53
jasonsbamuller: yes.  rally + ci15:54
jasonsbamuller: but developer centric audience15:54
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sc68calbaoli_: If you get a chance, can you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181435/ ?16:01
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sc68calI made some changes to the table for the ipv6 attr combos since I think the original combos in the spec were specifying behaviors that may or may not be how they get implemented16:01
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jasonsbamuller: i found bug 133444716:08
openstackbug 1334447 in Ironic "Potential race between neutron port update and node pxe boot" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133444716:08
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jasonsbamuller: reported in context of ironic, but same scenario i think.  should i file new and reference this?16:08
openstackgerritPavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Implement IPAM Driver loader  https://review.openstack.org/14747916:08
amullerjasonsb: yeah we should have a general bug about this16:08
jasonsbamuller: nod16:09
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yamahatasalv-orlando: ping? can you please remove -2 from the spec? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105078/17:15
yamahatasalv-orlando: I'd like to revive it for Liberty17:15
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Define TcNatDriver stateless nat driver  https://review.openstack.org/17724517:27
openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Use stevedore to load nat driver  https://review.openstack.org/18147117:27
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Clean only floating-ip related connection states  https://review.openstack.org/18076517:29
openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Define IptablesNatDriver stateful nat driver  https://review.openstack.org/18116817:30
openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Use stevedore to load nat driver  https://review.openstack.org/18147117:30
openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Define TcNatDriver stateless nat driver  https://review.openstack.org/17724517:30
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openstackgerritRossella Sblendido proposed openstack/neutron: L2 agent RPC add new RPC calls  https://review.openstack.org/14743517:34
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Use stevedore to load nat driver  https://review.openstack.org/18147117:49
openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Define TcNatDriver stateless nat driver  https://review.openstack.org/17724517:49
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Use stevedore to load nat driver  https://review.openstack.org/18147117:56
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Define TcNatDriver stateless nat driver  https://review.openstack.org/17724517:56
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openstackgerritAssaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Centralized register_OVS_agent in tests  https://review.openstack.org/17878918:29
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amullerZZelle: -1 on that patch?18:37
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ZZelleamuller, hi, -1?18:37
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amullerZZelle: That's what it says18:37
ZZelleamuller, oups18:38
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ZZelleamuller, corrected18:38
amullerZZelle: Thanks18:38
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openstackgerritLynn Li proposed openstack/neutron: Provide snat dvr host name during FIP association with unbound port  https://review.openstack.org/17943918:39
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SukhdevDoes anybody know of any bug that made into stable/kilo which prevents deleting an interface from router. See the error - http://paste.openstack.org/show/217317/18:51
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shaggycatmestery, hi! I resolve my problem19:10
mesteryshaggycat: great! What was it?19:10
shaggycatmestery, it is probably bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=117486419:10
openstackbugzilla.redhat.com bug 1174864 in openvswitch "No connectivity when Launching an instance with Openvswitch interface when using SR-IOV" [Medium,New] - Assigned to jbenc19:10
shaggycatI added ovs_use_veth = True in dhcp and l319:11
mesterynice19:11
shaggycatand this fix problem19:11
amullerSukhdev: looks like it's an arista specific issue?19:11
shaggycatwith this options,19:12
Sukhdevamuller: You may be right, but gives it?19:12
shaggycatopenvswitch get up all ports19:12
amullerSukhdev: What's that?19:12
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Sukhdevamuller: I mean - how did you figure that it is Arista specific?19:13
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Sukhdevamuller: Most likely you may be right, but, I curious….19:13
amullerSukhdev: well, from the trace "neutron.services.l3_router.l3_arista.AristaL3ServicePlugin method remove_router_interface called with..."19:13
amullerSukhdev: looks to me like a method in l3_db signature was changed and the arista code was not updated to reflect that19:14
Sukhdevamuller: oh really? I did not know that19:15
Sukhdevamuller: do you know what was changed?19:15
amullerSukhdev: from the trace, _validate_interface_info19:15
amullerin l3_db.py19:15
Sukhdevamuller: Thanks for pointing it out - let me check19:16
openstackgerritLynn Li proposed openstack/neutron: Provide snat dvr host name during FIP association with unbound port  https://review.openstack.org/17943919:17
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openstackgerritAssaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Extenuate register_dhcp_agent code duplication in tests  https://review.openstack.org/17951719:26
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Sukhdevamuller: Do you happen to have a link to the patch which made the change?19:26
amullerSukhdev: no but you can git blame the module and see19:27
Sukhdevamuller: OK - thanks19:27
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openstackgerritDane LeBlanc proposed openstack/neutron: Stop sending gratuitous arp when ip version is 6  https://review.openstack.org/16079920:10
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Sukhdevamuller_afk: hey20:11
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openstackgerritDane LeBlanc proposed openstack/neutron: Stop sending gratuitous arp when ip version is 6  https://review.openstack.org/16079920:22
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Sukhdevsalv-orlando: Ping20:28
salv-orlandoaloha Sukhdev20:34
Sukhdevsalv-orlando: what is the proper response to aloha - mahalo?20:35
salv-orlandoI don't know. I am ignorant. My knowledge begins and ends with 'aloha'20:36
Sukhdevsalv-orlando: ha ha - that makes two of us :-)20:36
Sukhdevsalv-orlando: Since you are a router expert - wanted to ask you a quick question -20:36
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salv-orlandoSukhdev: I just told you my knowledge begins and ends with aloha. So I know nothing20:37
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salv-orlandounless you want to talk about collision protocols20:37
Sukhdevsalv-orlando: ha ha funny!!20:37
Sukhdevsalv-orlando: I can see you are in weekend mode :-)20:38
salv-orlando22:38 pm on a friday is weekend, isn't it?20:39
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Sukhdevsalv-orlando: very much so - and chilled beer makes it more fun20:39
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Sukhdevsalv-orlando: On a serious note - take a look at http://paste.openstack.org/show/217317/20:41
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Sukhdevsalv-orlando: I see this failure, when I look at the code, it is a pass through code, hence, am confused why would it crap out?20:42
Sukhdevsalv-orlando: this BTW is stable/kilo20:42
Sukhdevsalv-orlando: BTW, I feel bad to be asking you this on this hour - feel free to ignore.20:44
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salv-orlandoSukhdev: np looking at it20:51
salv-orlandoSukhdev: ./neutron/services/l3_router/l3_arista.py:282:    def _validate_interface_info(self, interface_info):20:53
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salv-orlandoseems like the arista svc plugin overrides it, but has not been updated to include the for_removal parameter.20:53
Sukhdevsalv-orlando: sorry - did not get it - let me pull up the code20:55
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Sukhdevsalv-orlando: Yup that is it - I did not realize that I had a local method which was overriding it20:58
Sukhdevsalv-orlando: Yes, that is it….thanks for pointing it out20:59
salv-orlandoSukhdev: wierd problems often have the most obvious solutions. You only need somebody else's eyes to find them out20:59
Sukhdevsalv-orlando: so right…..it happens20:59
Sukhdevsalv-orlando: your next beer is on me -21:00
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salv-orlandoSukhdev: thanks21:00
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hitaliaHi, I have question about devstack configuraitons realted to neutron. is there any way to tell devstack (localrc) to not configure default networks, subnets & router?21:15
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openstackgerritSridhar Ramaswamy proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Add Dynamic Multipoint VPN to Neutron VPNaaS  https://review.openstack.org/18156321:24
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botangI'm investigating neutron firewall internal mechanisms. It seems that the enforcement of the firewall policy is not in iptables. I wonder where the enforcement is taking place. Thanks!21:46
openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Always use BridgeDevice to manage linuxbridges  https://review.openstack.org/18156921:46
openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Always use BridgeDevice to manage linuxbridges  https://review.openstack.org/18156921:47
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flashgordontop gate bug is brought to you by Neutron and http://status.openstack.org//elastic-recheck/#140329121:48
flashgordonmestery salv-orlando marun ^21:49
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marunflashgordon: why does it say 'fix released'?21:55
flashgordonmarun:  *shrug* bug I 'fixed' that21:57
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botangAnyone can help?21:58
marunflashgordon: maybe it's time to implement dhcping and not let nova boot the vm if we can't verify dhcp is working21:59
marunarmax: ^21:59
marunflashgordon: it doesn't fix the problem in question, but at least the failure mode can be clear22:00
flashgordonmarun: ++ to better failure modes22:00
armaxmarun: it looks like something slipped in that broke dhcp22:01
marunarmax: the question is, are we going to learn our lesson and stop booting vm's that won't be able to get an ip?22:02
marunarmax: or kick the can down the road by fixing the failure but not its detection?22:02
armaxmarun: the reasons can be multiple, that bug is sort of a ‘catch-all’ bug report22:02
marunarmax: agreed22:03
armaxmarun: agreed, but that’s orthogonal, this looks like a regression22:03
marunarmax: But isn't the reason it's a catch-all because there are a bunch of things that could prevent dhcp from working?22:03
flashgordonmarun: yeah, its a catch all because we have trouble pointing to anything more specific22:04
marunarmax: I'm not sure why we want to continue letting nova be our canary on this class of failure.22:04
flashgordonwe don't even fingerprint on neutron logs because they are not helpful here22:04
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armaxmarun: if the vm doesn’t get a dhcp address it could be for all sorts of reasons22:05
* flashgordon doesn't want to be a canary, he knows what happens to them22:05
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armaxmarun: we could prevent nova from booting a vm in case dhcp is not ready22:05
marunarmax: and fail with an appropriate error message22:05
marunarmax: that way we separate nova failure from neutron failure (in most cases anyway)22:05
armaxmarun: but that won’t help if the data plane is broken22:05
amullerarmax: marun: Let's nail down a design in the summit22:05
amullerand I can code it up22:05
amullerand you two can merge it :)22:06
armaxwe can’t test the data plane sanity before the vm boot22:06
marunarmax: really?22:06
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amullerthere's a lot of different ways to go about this22:06
marunarmax: I'm not sure I understand that statement.22:06
marunarmax: If this isn't a good place for a health check, what is?22:06
armaxwhat I mean is that unless you probe the VM’s interface, once it’s created how are you supposed to see whether packets can go back and forth?22:07
marunarmax: why wouldn't we want to probe the vm's interface (at least where it plugs into the ovs or lb)22:08
marun?22:08
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armaxso long as that can be done before the vm boots, sure22:08
armaxthen it’s doable22:09
marunarmax: since the vm won't boot until neutron tells nova the port is wired, we have a short window to do whatever is necessary22:09
armaxthat would definitely help in pinpointing a data plane breakage22:10
armaxand catch an issue much earlier in the workflow22:11
marunarmax: we've been talking about it for what seems like years.  Here's to harnessing amuller to finally implement something!22:11
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armaxamuller: that requires both nova and neutron changes22:11
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marundid I miss something?22:12
armaxthat would alter the failure modes to make our troubleshooting life easier22:12
marunwhat requires nova and neutron changes?22:12
armaxbut the fact remains that we regressed for god knows why :)22:12
armaxmarun: preventing nova boot if dhcp is not sane22:12
marunwhy would that require nova change?22:13
amullerarmax: why not piggy back on the existing notification sent out?22:13
marunif dhcp is enabled for a subnet, we don't indicate the port is wired until we see dhcp is working22:13
Swamiarmax: is that not an odd behavior to stop a compute if dhcp is not working22:14
armaxamuller: that’s an option but I remember talking with kevinbenton about this whilst we were looking at this very bug…22:14
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amulleryeah marun and I had conversations with kevinbenton about this as well22:15
armaxand I have a faint recollection of the fact that just altering the neutron port creation logic does not suffice22:15
armaxbut I might be wrong22:15
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amulleranyhoo I'm tired and gonna head off. I'd love to take this on but there's a lot of details to go through, I'm hoping to decide on this stuff in the summit22:15
amullerlike do we wanna do it per agent (ovs, lb, others)22:15
amulleror maybe the dhcp agent can notify instead22:16
amullerwhich would be more generic but more complicated probably22:16
armaxamuller: we need to sort out the async nature of dhcp port creation between the agent and the server22:16
amullerdidn't kevinbenton change that so that the port is created when a dhcp subnet is created?22:16
armaxand the fact that we need to coordinate compute ports and the dhcp port creations22:17
armaxamuller: that narrows down the race window but it doesn’t kill it altogether22:17
amullerI know22:17
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armaxamuller: let’s make a note of this, in the meantime who is triaging the gate?22:17
armaxas flashgordon pointed out?22:18
amuller*crickets*22:18
armaxflashgordon: do you have a run I could look at?22:18
HenryGarmax: I didn't look at the error, but looked at the commit log ...22:19
armaxHenryG: and?22:19
HenryGarmax: I90b4d2485e3e491f496dfb7bdee03d57f393be35 maybe?22:20
flashgordonarmax:  you can find one yourself I will show you how22:20
flashgordonarmax: click the logstash link under http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/#140329122:20
armaxflashgordon: if I look at the logstash qeury associated to the bug, I only get  a handful errors, so prolly not the same22:21
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flashgordonthat pulls up all the hits in lostash22:21
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flashgordonthen click on one of the errors and look for the log_url22:21
flashgordonarmax: if the query is not finding that bug then we should fix the query22:21
armaxflashgordon: yeah that’s what I am thining22:22
armaxthinking22:22
armaxflashgordon: there must be something wrong about the fingerprint22:22
armaxthe logstash query associated to the bug is way too generic22:22
flashgordonarmax: that fingerprint only hits on neutron22:22
flashgordonthat is because we have no better log line to use22:23
armaxflashgordon: I am not saying that this isn’t neutron’s fault22:23
flashgordonfind me a better one22:23
armaxflashgordon: but message:"AssertionError: False is not true : Timed out waiting for" AND message:"to become reachable" AND tags:"console"22:23
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armaxflashgordon: is a catch-all query22:23
flashgordonarmax: yes its generic but its catching a neutron bug22:23
armaxflashgordon: that is impossible to root cause to dhcp22:23
armaxflashgordon: besides, the problem isn’t neutron per se here…but Tempest22:23
flashgordonand what appears to be a single bug22:23
armaxflashgordon: which the way it’s configured won’t let us validate connectivity to the private address22:24
armaxfirst22:24
kevinbentonso this could actually just be an iptables error?22:24
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armaxflashgordon: so this catch-all might capture l3 connectivity issue22:24
armaxkevinbenton: looking22:24
flashgordonmtreinish: ^22:24
kevinbentonarmax: i saw this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181272/ but he wasn't able to narrow down how it fails22:25
armaxflashgordon: in fact here:22:25
armaxflashgordon: http://logs.openstack.org/79/180879/2/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/7b486a6/logs/testr_results.html.gz22:25
kevinbentonarmax: maybe we should propose a conntrack zones revert...22:25
armaxflashgordon: dhcp works just fine22:25
mtreinisharmax: are you talking about the failure to ping?22:25
armaxflashgordon: so dhcp has nothing to do with it22:26
armaxmtreinish: yes22:26
mtreinisharmax: how is it a problem in tempest problem that the ip returned isn't reachable?22:26
armaxmtreinish: do you know if all connectivity tests validate the access to the instance’s fixed ip?22:27
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armaxas far as I was able to tell looking at tempest most of the tests go straight to checking the connectivity to the FIP22:29
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Update the specs process for Liberty  https://review.openstack.org/17734222:29
mtreinisharmax: hmm, well the implication I think is that the tempest may not necessarily have access to the fixed ip22:29
armaxmtreinish: that’s right!22:30
armaxthis is what I mentioned with flashgordon22:30
mtreinisharmax: but how is that tempest's problem. If you tell it you need to use a fip to access the vm, there's nothing else it can do22:30
mtreinishbecause you're telling tempest the fixed ip won't be reachable directly22:31
kevinbentoni need to step away for a bit, but based on the timing i strongly suspect this is caused by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118274/22:31
armaxmtreinish: it’s not tempest’s fault22:31
armaxper se22:31
Swamimtreinish: can't the tempest test get into the dhcp namespace to ping the vm and see if the private ip is available and valid22:31
flashgordonso I think this is missing the point a bit22:32
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armaxbut if the test box can’t reach the private ip space for the instance, we’re only left with detecting connectivity issues via L3 and then backtracing if something goes wrong22:32
flashgordonif a user hits some issue like this it should be debuggable22:32
mtreinishSwami: that's making an assumption about where tempest is in the network.22:32
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armaxflashgordon: and it is, to some degree22:32
mtreinishSwami: what armax said22:32
flashgordonand that ideally would mean neutron would emit clear information to make that possible22:32
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: lb-agent: ensure tap mtu is the same as physical device  https://review.openstack.org/17455822:32
armaxall I am saying is that the automatic detection may be harder to do22:32
flashgordonyes that isn't always possible, but we are far from that limit today22:32
flashgordonarmax: so moving forward with this bug22:33
armaxflashgordon: neutron emits a wealth of information, probably too much :)22:33
armaxflashgordon: it’s a matter of knowing what to look for22:33
flashgordonarmax: do you think there is something we can do to make the fingerprint closer to the root cause?22:33
flashgordonarmax: and secondly how do we make this bug go away?22:33
armaxflashgordon: aye, we should strive too22:33
armaxflashgordon: perhaps we shuould change the fingerprint to look at the neutron logs instead of console.html22:35
armaxflashgordon: can that be done?22:35
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flashgordonarmax: patches welcome22:35
flashgordonarmax: if you find a log I can turn it into a query22:35
flashgordonso far we haven't been able to find anything though22:35
armaxflashgordon: ok, forgive my ignorance…can the query be written to check for the lack of a specific string?22:36
flashgordonarmax: great question, no!22:36
flashgordonit has to be a single line in a log file22:36
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flashgordonarmax: have to step out for a bit time to relocate22:37
armaxflashgordon: for instance we could pinpoint dhcp issues if log traces don’t have the string: Lease of <your-ip> obtained, lease time 8640022:37
armaxflashgordon: I struggled to figure how to do that with logstash22:37
flashgordonarmax: yeah we cannot fingerprint on a line not being there22:37
armax:)22:37
armaxsee?22:37
armaxthat’s logstash fault then :)22:38
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* armax kids22:38
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armaxseriously though perhaps we could get hold of the vm console output22:38
armaxand grep for the string22:38
mtreinisharmax: tempest should try to log that22:38
mtreinishoh, wait thats on ssh failure22:38
mtreinishnot ping failure22:38
mtreinishmaybe?22:39
armaxmtreinish: yes22:39
armaxperhaps we can readd post-error processing of the vm console output just to figure out whether the vm got the IP?22:39
armaxor was able to access the metadata server?22:40
armaxand spit out an error that’s more specific than timeout error?22:40
mtreinisharmax: if it's a mysql job it uses config drive always22:40
mtreinishonly on the postgres jobs does it use the metadata service22:40
armaxand then have logstash fingerprint on the new more specific errrors?22:40
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Remove use of contextlib.nested  https://review.openstack.org/16767722:40
armaxmtreinish: understood22:41
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Remove from BridgeDevice homemade execute in namespace  https://review.openstack.org/18158323:02
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Kill hostname validation for subnet:dns_nameservers  https://review.openstack.org/16888623:07
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Add capability to wait for IPv6 address in ip_lib  https://review.openstack.org/18036723:13
kevinbentonhaleyb: ^^23:13
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flashgordonback23:15
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flashgordonarmax: happy hunting23:18
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kevinbentonflashgordon: is there a way to have a wildcard in a logstash query?23:25
flashgordonkevinbenton: yes, if you want to search for a string, its usually easier just to search for two strings23:25
flashgordonmessage:"big error" AND message:"stacktrace 500"23:26
flashgordonas long as the line you are looking for is big error as seen here: stacktrace 500"23:26
flashgordonor something23:26
openstackgerritLynn Li proposed openstack/neutron: Provide snat dvr host name during FIP association with unbound port  https://review.openstack.org/17943923:29
kevinbentonflashgordon: i'm trying to search for PHYSIN=qvbfa53f4c4-9923:29
kevinbentonflashgordon: except not the whole thing23:29
kevinbenton:)23:29
kevinbentonjust PHYSIN=qvb23:30
kevinbentonso anything that starts with that23:30
kevinbentonit seems like logstash is only matching whole words23:30
flashgordonyup23:30
flashgordonthere is a trick one moment23:30
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flashgordontrying to remember what it is23:32
flashgordonmtreinish: may remember23:32
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mtreinishflashgordon: there is wild card support, but I don't remember it off the top of my head23:38
mtreinishIIRC it's kinda expensive to use23:38
mtreinishI normally just AND to words together (they have to space separate IIRC) so I avoid the unique bit23:39
mtreinishi guess if it's physin=xxxxxxxxx-xx that won't work23:39
kevinbentonmtreinish: right23:39
flashgordonkevinbenton: no luck finding a query on my end23:39
kevinbentonmtreinish: we don't have to submit it as an ER query23:40
kevinbentonso even if it's expensive i just want to confirm23:40
mtreinishkevinbenton: I'd have to look up how to do it in the elastic search docs23:40
mtreinishI don't know how to do it off the top of my head23:40
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flashgordonkevinbenton: try message:"PHYSIN" AND message:qvb*23:40
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kevinbentonflashgordon: looks promising23:42
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kevinbentonwell i have determined that bots are trying to telnet into instances occasionally, but that's not helpful :)23:49
kevinbentoniptables dropped: IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=fa:16:3e:ab:63:d7:fa:16:3e:d2:ec:ba:08:00 SRC=62.183.86.91 DST=10.0.3.220 LEN=60 TOS=0x08 PREC=0x20 TTL=50 ID=62727 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=57166 DPT=23 WINDOW=5808 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=023:50
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