Friday, 2015-05-01

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amullerdavrodpin: live and learn :)00:00
amullerSwami_: I assume you've seen the changes I pushed last night00:00
amullerwe merged one patch in the chain today00:01
amullerso 2 remain, 1 adds high level tests and the other is the fix + uncommenting the test00:01
Swami_amuller: I did took a look at that. But I have one question.00:01
amullerSwami_: I expect to push another revision to the tests patch tomorrow00:01
Swami_amuller: don't you think that we still need the mocked version of the unit test for the code change.00:02
amullerSwami_: oops, that was an oversight00:03
amullerSwami_: you're right00:03
amullerSwami_: I still don't like that kind of testing, I mean, you just have to mock so much stuff to test it in isolation, it's a huge blinking red sign that the code is not testable enough00:04
amullerideally you'd have well isolated DB methods with input and expected output and you'd be able to test that00:04
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Swami_amuller: are you planning to add that one back into the patch00:05
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amullerSwami_: yes I will, can you -1 the patch with that so I won't forget?00:05
Swami_amuller: ok will do it.00:06
amullerSwami_: This is a positive example, I think, of what I mean: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/tests/unit/scheduler/test_l3_agent_scheduler.py#L144000:06
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amullerSwami_: the DB method under test has clear input and expected output, the test method doesn't really mock anything because you don't have to, and there's pretty minimal setup required00:07
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amullerSwami_: I hope that explains what I'm trying to say00:09
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Swami_amuller: yes I got your point.00:09
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amullerSwami_: I sincerely hope you'll consider the pros and cons of those different kinds of testing and when should one or both approaches be used00:10
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Swami_amuller: yes this was done based on the direction then when we pushed the original code. I agree with you that it has to be addressed and will work on it, once we finish up the stability and the current bug list.00:11
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Merge tag '2015.1.0'  https://review.openstack.org/17930300:12
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Merge tag '2015.1.0'  https://review.openstack.org/17930500:13
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amullerSwami_: Consider that there's a lot of benefits to addressing testing before you make additional changes. It makes it a lot easier to make those changes for one :)00:14
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Swami_amuller: yes understood00:18
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amullerSwami_: I'm heading off for the night, ttyl00:18
amullerSwami_: Thank you for your time00:18
Swami_amuller: you are welcome00:18
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Context: is_admin==True implies is_advsvc=True  https://review.openstack.org/17887700:44
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Don't use iterator in search for tunnel type  https://review.openstack.org/17862500:49
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Don't delete port from bridge on delete_port event  https://review.openstack.org/17931400:50
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openstackgerritKyle Mestery proposed openstack/neutron: Adopt new spec process for Liberty  https://review.openstack.org/17734213:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Support multiple IPv6 prefixes on internal router ports for an HA Router  https://review.openstack.org/17534213:30
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Add notes about official sub-projects.  https://review.openstack.org/17595213:30
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openstackgerritSam Betts proposed openstack/neutron: Make l3 agent prefix delegation pluggable  https://review.openstack.org/17627214:06
openstackgerritSam Betts proposed openstack/neutron: Implement Neutron IPv6 Prefix Delegation  https://review.openstack.org/15869714:06
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openstackgerritenikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: Finally let L3 and DHCP agents cleanup namespaces by default  https://review.openstack.org/17647114:26
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/neutron: l3 agent: fix grammar in router info not found warning  https://review.openstack.org/17940615:04
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openstackgerritSam Betts proposed openstack/neutron: Add an internal DHCPv6 client for Prefix Delegation  https://review.openstack.org/16138116:47
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openstackgerritLynn Li proposed openstack/neutron: Retrieve snat dvr host name in case of unbound port during FIP association  https://review.openstack.org/17942717:18
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openstackgerritIla Palanisamy proposed openstack/neutron: L3 Agent support of manual dvr snat add/remove  https://review.openstack.org/12381517:38
pc_mcarl_baldwin: hi17:39
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carl_baldwinpc_m: hi17:48
pc_mcarl_baldwin: Have a few mins for some questions?17:48
carl_baldwinpc_m: shoot17:48
pc_mcarl_baldwin: I've been working (stuck?) for a few weeks on trying to modify the VPN functional tests. I think I know what the problem is, but am unsure of the solution (I have a temp solution that I think will work).17:49
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pc_mcarl_baldwin: In the past, the functional tests ran, by first stacking devstack, and all was good.17:50
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pc_mcarl_baldwin: Now, I'm trying to do like Neutron, and only configure for devstack, but not to stack. Make sense?17:50
carl_baldwinyes17:51
pc_mcarl_baldwin: The issue is that for the StrongSwan driver (which has its own job), it uses a custom script, neutron-vpn-netns-wrapper. This maps to this module:17:51
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pc_mcarl_baldwin: https://github.com/openstack/neutron-vpnaas/blob/master/neutron_vpnaas/services/vpn/common/netns_wrapper.py17:51
pc_mcarl_baldwin: The issue, is that when this runs, it registers options in cfg.CONF and one is the path to the rootwrap.conf17:52
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pc_mcarl_baldwin: Since cfg.CONF is empty mostly, when this is run, it uses the default location, /etc/neutron/rootwrap.conf17:52
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pc_mcarl_baldwin: The issue, is that the new functional tests set all the rootwrap stuff in .tox/dsvm-functional-sswan/etc/neutron17:53
pc_mcarl_baldwin: I have a temp workaround, which is that in tox.ini, I copy the rootwrap.conf there (which refers to the .tox area) over to /etc/neutron17:54
pc_mcarl_baldwin: I'm not sure how to get this to work otherwise. In fact, under production, I don't see how someone could have this work outside of /etc/neutron/17:55
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pc_mcarl_baldwin: One idea was to have this script parse the vpnagent.ini file to get the setting. That seems a bit heavy handed, and still has the issue of location of vpnagent.ini. Another would be to have the script allow an optional command line arg with path, but not sure how to specify that during the test runs.17:56
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pc_mcarl_baldwin: Any suggestions/ideas?17:56
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* carl_baldwin looking...17:57
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carl_baldwinpc_m: What test is it?  (for context)18:00
pc_mcarl_baldwin: Test case or job?18:00
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carl_baldwinpc_m: Both could help I guess.18:01
pc_mcarl_baldwin: neutron_vpnaas/tests/functional/strongswan/ has two test modules that get invoked and fail.18:01
pc_mJob is dsvm-functional-job18:01
pc_mhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/168115/18:01
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pc_mhttp://logs.openstack.org/15/168115/30/check/check-neutron-vpnaas-dsvm-functional-sswan/bad5f19/console.html18:01
pc_mcarl_baldwin: ^^ for log of failure.18:01
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pc_mcarl_baldwin: It can't find /etc/neutron/rootwrap.conf, which is the default used when config registered. If I manually change the default, I can make it work too.18:02
pc_mcarl_baldwin: So bottom line, netns_wrapper.py runs under the neutron-vpn-netws-wrapper command, and it sets the rootwrap_conf variable in cfg to /etc/neutron/rootwrap.conf. The test, however, setups all these files in the .tox area.18:03
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jlksc68cal: happy to talk in here instead :)18:05
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Updated ovsvapp_agent.ini in neutron  https://review.openstack.org/17897418:06
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sc68caljlk: sounds good18:06
openstackgerritLynn Li proposed openstack/neutron: provide snat dvr host name during FIP association with unbound port  https://review.openstack.org/17943918:06
sc68calmestery: jlk: sdague: So the current patch to do linux bridge as the default works, however it's doing a vlan based topology18:06
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mesterysc68cal: That makes sense, I thought all the ops using LB were only using vlans anyways?18:07
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jlksc68cal: that config file has a [nova] section, is that a deprecated section?18:07
jlkor used for something other than the notifications?18:07
sc68caljlk: which file?18:07
jlkhttp://logs.openstack.org/06/179406/1/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/2f7d58a/logs/etc/neutron/neutron.conf.txt.gz18:07
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jlkhrm, maybe different, maybe not? config reference guide isn't helpful18:08
jlkhttp://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/networking-options-nova.html18:08
jlkvs18:08
jlkhttp://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/networking-options-compute.html18:08
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sc68caljlk: hmm, we'll have to investigate that at another point18:09
jlkmestery: We're doing LB with vxlan18:09
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jlk(and some with VLAN, but prefer vxlan)18:09
mesteryjlk: We'll support it, I think sc68cal is talking about what to default to in the gate though.18:10
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jlkyeah, I was just responding to the comment of "I thought all the ops using LB were only using vlans anyways?"18:10
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sc68calmestery: sdague: the question I have is what about some of the defauts we're setting, like LB_PHYSICAL_INTERFACE to eth0 - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168423/14/lib/neutron-legacy18:11
sc68calI'm going to take a guess that we shouldn't set that, and instead set that in devstack-gate to eth0 since that's what the gate uses18:12
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sc68calI think we should keep TENANT_VLAN_RANGE though, if someone is concerned about the vlan tags being used they'll modify it. Those who don't know about it probably won't care unless it breaks something18:13
mesterysc68cal: ++18:13
clarkbsc68cal: I don't think the gate uses eth018:13
carl_baldwinpc_m: Does neutron-vpn-netns-wrapper read a config file?18:14
clarkbsc68cal: iirc the neutron networking in the gate is disconnected from the host networking18:14
pc_mcarl_baldwin: NO, that's astandalone script from what I can tell, so I don't see how it can possible get a rootwrap_conf setting other than the default, unless I'm missing somehting.18:14
pc_mcarl_baldwin: To top it off, it has to settings in [default] and not [vpnagent18:15
pc_m] space.18:15
sc68calclarkb: right - for all-in-one. What about multi node, I don't want to disrupt that18:15
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clarkbsc68cal: multinode is the same, no host networking, we make an overlay network that neutron uses instead18:15
dmzquick question, i'm trying to add allowed_address_pairs to a neutron port but can't figure out the syntax to have it add mulitple ips18:15
pc_mcarl_baldwin: Was thinking could have it read /etc/neutron/vpnagent.ini to get the rootwrap_conf setting.18:16
jlkOkay, yeah, LB + VLAN + server resize, takes about a minute or two before networking "works" again, both a local arping from the neutron server and an ssh attempt via floating IP18:16
sc68calclarkb: ok18:16
carl_baldwinpc_m: Wouldn’t you want it to read something under .tox/…/etc/neutron?18:16
pc_mcarl_baldwin: Though, it'd be doing that each time it ran, seems heavy handed.18:16
jlkon resize revert it's nearly instant.18:16
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jlkmestery: does that sound like a bug ?18:17
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mesteryjlk: It does yes18:17
pc_mcarl_baldwin: yeah ideally. Not sure how to facilitate that.18:17
carl_baldwinpc_m: Is there a way to make it run another script like “test-neutron-vpn-netns-wrapper”?18:17
jlkmancdaz: what sort of info would you like in a bug report?18:17
jlker18:17
jlkmestery: ^^18:18
pc_mcarl_baldwin: Right now, VPN has vpnagent.ini, which is located at /etc/neutron18:18
pc_mcarl_baldwin: Maybe...18:18
carl_baldwinpc_m: I’m trying something similar here:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176093/18:18
mesteryjlk: I think all of your config options would be handy for starters18:19
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carl_baldwinpc_m: I’m trying to run test-neutron-l3-agent instead of neutron-l3-agent so that I can mock something.  It is a new idea so I’m not sure how well it will be received.18:21
pc_mcarl_baldwin: This file is called out in https://github.com/openstack/neutron-vpnaas/blob/master/etc/neutron/rootwrap.d/vpnaas.filters18:21
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pc_mcarl_baldwin: I guess I could switch it there?18:22
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pc_mcarl_baldwin: I don't know the filters well. Is there a way to have the filter pass args (like the rootwrap_conf)?18:23
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pc_mcarl_baldwin: Wondering if I can alter the script to look for CLI args and use those, else set defaults.18:24
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pc_mcarl_baldwin: I'm not sure why it is using the cfg mechanism, as there isn't any config file parsed.18:25
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pc_mcarl_baldwin: Or does the register_cli_opts() call actually parse the command line args?18:27
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pc_mcarl_baldwin: They must be doing that to get the cmd and mount_paths18:28
jlkmestery: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/145087418:28
openstackLaunchpad bug 1450874 in neutron "Delay in network access after instance resize/migration using linuxbridge and vlan" [Undecided,New]18:28
mesteryjlk: Thanks!18:28
pc_mcarl_baldwin: I'm wondering if in the filters file I can pass in the rootwrap_conf arg and let the rest come in as part of the invocation?18:28
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pc_mcarl_baldwin: I see this: https://github.com/openstack/neutron-vpnaas/blob/master/etc/neutron/rootwrap.d/vpnaas.filters#L718:30
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pc_mcarl_baldwin: I wonder if I can add in the rootwrap_conf arg to vpnaas.filters, which I can modify for the test, before storing it.18:31
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openstackgerritDavid Pinheiro proposed openstack/neutron: Fix router namespaces delete by interface removal.  https://review.openstack.org/17929619:40
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/17949620:18
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openstackgerritPaul Michali proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: VPNaaS: Revise functional test hooks  https://review.openstack.org/16811520:47
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: l3 agent: fix grammar in router info not found warning  https://review.openstack.org/17940621:22
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Provide Fedora support for StrongSwan  https://review.openstack.org/17420521:22
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openstackgerritAssaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Extenuate register_dhcp_agent code duplication in tests  https://review.openstack.org/17951721:56
amullermarun: ^21:57
amullershould be the last one like it21:58
openstackgerritLynn Li proposed openstack/neutron: provide snat dvr host name during FIP association with unbound port  https://review.openstack.org/17943921:58
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amullermarun: Do you know why we send out agent notifications at the API layer?22:01
amullermarun: seems so wrong to me22:01
amullerarmax: ^22:01
amullerjust ran in to it again...22:02
armaxamuller: good question22:02
armaxamuller: where are you looking in particular?22:02
armaxamuller: dhcp?22:02
amulleryeah22:02
armaxor which ones?22:02
amullerdhcp22:02
armaxamuller: the simple answer is it makes no sense22:02
amullerarmax: do we have plugins other than ml2 that use the DHCP agent?22:02
armaxamuller: all of them22:03
amullerreally? o22:03
amullerI did not know that22:03
armaxamuller: well, dhcp can work with any core/ml2 plugin22:03
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amullercan, or does? :)22:04
armaxcan and does :)22:04
amullerarmax: vmware plugins work with RPC?22:04
amullerfor example?22:04
armaxamuller: interesting question22:04
armaxamuller: it can work with or without22:04
armaxamuller: the nsx-mh plugin has a built-in dhcp solution22:04
amullerhow does a plugin use a DHCP agent without RPC?22:04
amullerahh22:04
amullerok22:04
armaxamuller: so no agent in that case22:04
armaxin fact22:04
armaxin fact...22:04
armaxamuller: the plugin uses the DHCPNotifier to plug into the its own backend22:05
armaxreplacing the agent22:05
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armaxamuller: I think that dhcp is not only where we have notifications in the API controller22:07
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amullerarmax: ceilometer as well22:07
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armaxamuller: right22:08
armaxamuller: the ones that emit events to the notification queue, right?22:08
amulleryes22:08
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amullerarmax: mostly just wanted to hear someone else say that it's bad22:12
armaxamuller: yeah, it’s bad :)22:12
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armaxamuller: but never really hurt22:12
amullerarmax: yeah it was just really surprising, there's some helper method in unit tests that sets an agent to down, it does this via the API later. I changed it to a helper (That happens to update the agent through the plugin later, not the API later), and all of a sudden the test was failing because notifications were not sent out...22:13
amullerarmax: which made me remember that code that sends DHCP notifications at the API layer22:14
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amullerjust surprising is all22:15
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benhamiltonHi, does anyone know how the neutron drivers are getting packaged in Kilo?22:18
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Don't update port with host id of None  https://review.openstack.org/17481822:26
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armaxbenhamilton: what drivers are you referring to?22:30
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openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Clarify stackforge/vmware-nsx is for VMware NSX suite  https://review.openstack.org/17953022:36
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benhamiltonarmax: none in particular. just wondering because i wasnt aware of the driver composition until recently. there was a mailing list item that mentioned only FWaaS LBaaS and VPNaaS was to be packaged by Ubuntu22:39
benhamiltonis this true?22:39
benhamiltonall the other drivers need to be packaged by their respective maintainers?22:40
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armaxbenhamilton: there reference one should be too22:40
benhamiltonarmax: could you elaborate a bit on that? not sure which reference you are referring to22:41
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armaxbenhamilton: sorry, I mean the ml2 ovs, linuxbridge and many others, let me find the link hang on22:43
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armaxbenhamilton: these are the drivers/plugins available https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/doc/source/devref/sub_projects.rst#affiliated-projects22:44
armaxeverything else is still in the tree22:44
benhamiltonarmax: yes, i'm aware of the drivers that have their own separate repo. but in terms of Ubuntu packaging, who is responsible for creating the packaging assets(e.g. control files)22:46
benhamiltonfor these separate drivers22:46
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armaxbenhamilton: the responsibility ultimately lies with the drivers’ maintainer22:48
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armaxbenhamilton: but it depends whether the maintaner and the distro have a business relationship22:48
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armaxbenhamilton: from what I can see for Kilo, the packages are provided for all vendors22:51
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armaxbenhamilton: this is staging: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cloud-archive/+archive/ubuntu/kilo-staging/+packages22:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/17949623:30
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Finally let L3 and DHCP agents cleanup namespaces by default  https://review.openstack.org/17647123:30
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Drop use of 'oslo' namespace package  https://review.openstack.org/17843823:30
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Add some tests for floating ips  https://review.openstack.org/17902723:30
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openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Deprecate config-based Quota Driver  https://review.openstack.org/17954323:33
benhamiltonarmax: thanks for your help23:35
kevinbentonsalv-orlando: late friday night deprecating activities?23:36
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