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| kevinbenton | nati_ueno: ping | 00:13 |
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| nati_ueno | kevinbenton: pong | 00:13 |
| kevinbenton | nati_ueno: xml serializer is causing me problems :-( | 00:13 |
| nati_ueno | kevinbenton: oh, I have same experience | 00:13 |
| kevinbenton | nati_ueno: when i turned external_ip into external_ips and made it a list | 00:13 |
| kevinbenton | nati_ueno: it made it so when using XML, it showed up as a list of dicts | 00:14 |
| kevinbenton | nati_ueno: is that what you ran into? | 00:14 |
| nati_ueno | kevinbenton: let me see | 00:14 |
| nati_ueno | kevinbenton: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/extensions/vpnaas.py#L365 | 00:15 |
| nati_ueno | kevinbenton: IMO, you should update plural_mappings | 00:15 |
| nati_ueno | kevinbenton: this is my guess | 00:15 |
| kevinbenton | nati_ueno: horrifying! :-) | 00:16 |
| kevinbenton | nati_ueno: can i just remove xml support from neutron instead? | 00:16 |
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| nati_ueno | kevinbenton: haha | 00:18 |
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| kevinbenton | nati_ueno: that fixed it! | 00:24 |
| kevinbenton | nati_ueno: but i’m horrified that i have no idea why | 00:24 |
| kevinbenton | nati_ueno: thanks for your help | 00:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Allow setting a tenant router's external IP https://review.openstack.org/83664 | 00:26 |
| harlowja_ | something u guys might be interested in, just bringing to attention, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95037 | 00:26 |
| harlowja_ | *the concept ^ in that spec isn't unique to cinder ;) | 00:27 |
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| nati_ueno | harlowja_: Thanks! I'll take a look | 00:40 |
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| nati_ueno | kevinbenton: ya I don't think xml support is needed anymore too | 00:40 |
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| harlowja_ | nati_ueno np, its basically some of the same state issues | 00:40 |
| harlowja_ | *that neutron has (afaik, i don't know the details so well) | 00:41 |
| nati_ueno | harlowja_: ya I agree. This topic is project-independent | 00:41 |
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| larsks | Hey, is there someone hanging around familiar with OVS internals? I'm seeing some very odd behavior and I would like another set of eyes. | 01:08 |
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| ianong | Hi im new to neutron. I want to test the driver I created for ml2 plugin. how do I build and run the neutron project? | 07:14 |
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| matrohon_ | nati_ueno : ping | 07:18 |
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| rossella_s | ianong: are you familiar with devstack? | 07:27 |
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| rossella_s | ianong: you can use devstack to test your changes. | 07:29 |
| rossella_s | ianong: you can run unit tests too...anyway see here for getting an intro http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/devref/index.html | 07:30 |
| rossella_s | here how to run unit tests http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/devref/development.environment.html#running-unit-tests | 07:30 |
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| ianong | rossella_s: thanks for the help. i tried installing devstack earlier. But when I tried to install it by running stack.sh as root user, it told me to create stack user using the script create-stack-user.sh. Running stack.sh as stack user also did not succeed. | 07:41 |
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| rossella_s | ianong: what error are you getting when you run it as stack user? | 07:42 |
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| ianong | rossella_s: a lot of permission denied. maybe because I downloaded devstack from git using root user? | 07:44 |
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| rossella_s | ianong: can be...anyway it's hard to say without seeing the error trace. Please clone it again, don't use root at all. Just clone and run stack.sh ...it should work :) | 07:46 |
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| ianong | rossella_s: I used different user but still got some errors. Can I paste the error trace here? :) | 07:57 |
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| rossella_s | ianong: please use http://paste.openstack.org/ | 07:59 |
| ianong | rossella_s: It has something to do with my sudoers. http://paste.openstack.org/show/81206/ | 08:00 |
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| rossella_s | ianong: you are using rhel 7...I am not an expert here. Maybe somebody online can help you better. Anyway it seems your problem is related to the file /etc/sudoers.d/50_stack_sh | 08:03 |
| ianong | rossella_s: yes, I am using rhel 7... I will investigate further regarding this... Thanks a lot for your time! :) | 08:05 |
| rossella_s | ianong: no problem, anytime! hope you can fix it | 08:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tomoe Sugihara proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Add spec for Update MidoNet plugin in Juno release https://review.openstack.org/95100 | 08:09 |
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| ianong | rossella_s: I have another question. is devstack the only way to deploy openstack? I tried modifying the code directly in /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/neutron/ and it did reflect.... But in the case of adding plugins, neutron/setup.cfg needs to be modified, right? Is there another way other than devstack? | 08:10 |
| AJaeger | ianong, there's a great Installation Guide at http://docs.openstack.org | 08:11 |
| AJaeger | and there are commercial solutions. The question is for what reason do you want to deploy it. | 08:11 |
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| rossella_s | ianong: I thought you wanted to test your changes, not to deploy openstack | 08:12 |
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| rossella_s | ianong: if you are interested in deploy, AJaeger gave you good links | 08:13 |
| rossella_s | ianong: if you wanna test your changes...well in my experience devstack is the easiest way. You can modify the code directly and even debug it | 08:13 |
| rossella_s | ianong: for a plugin you can also create a package that installs only the plugin not neutron or copy the plugin files manually, which is ok for testing I guess | 08:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tomoe Sugihara proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Add blueprint for MidoNet L3-ext-gw-modes support https://review.openstack.org/94785 | 08:16 |
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| rossella_s | AJaeger: do you need help with some Italian translation? yesterday I was on a rush and didn't follow up | 08:16 |
| ianong | AJaeger: thanks for your input. I already had a look at the installation guide but I cannot find guides in deploying when changes are made,like creating new driver for a plugin. | 08:17 |
| AJaeger | rossella_s, that was more a joke - noticing that parts of OpenStack are translated in Italian... | 08:17 |
| rossella_s | AJaeger: :) | 08:18 |
| rossella_s | ianong: this can help https://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-hong-kong-2013/session-videos/presentation/how-to-write-a-neutron-plugin-if-you-really-need-to | 08:18 |
| ianong | rossella_s: alright! I will try to look at my issue with devstack then.. thanks again. | 08:18 |
| AJaeger | ianong, the cloud admin guide explains in general advanced concepts.... | 08:18 |
| AJaeger | but new driver development is not covered in the manuals | 08:19 |
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| rossella_s | ianong: I don't know if somebody documented how to write a driver for ml2...anyway a good way to start is looking at the existing drivers. | 08:20 |
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| ianong | rossella_s: i also cannot find documents on how to write ml2 driver. I referred from OpenDayLight plugin: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/commit/791256cb671630ff70c941272df89717a7216eeb I guess I have already done it but I cannot test to see if it works. Looks like devstack is my only hope. hehe.. | 08:25 |
| rossella_s | ianong: you can use unit tests...but that's like the first step. Then you have to run it in a stack. Devstack is the easier way. Otherwise you can deploy a cloud and apply your changes but that's harder | 08:27 |
| rossella_s | ianong: in my experience devstack is the easiest way... | 08:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Tomoe Sugihara proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Add blueprint for MidoNet L3-ext-gw-modes support https://review.openstack.org/94785 | 08:30 |
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| tziOm | hi guys | 08:35 |
| tziOm | wondering.. what is the reason dvr does not do north-south distributed? | 08:36 |
| tziOm | Maby I am forgetting something, but is this not solved automagically when using OSPF and announcing the routes on compute? | 08:36 |
| tziOm | ..setting snat=true on computes.. | 08:36 |
| tomoe_ | ianong: in devstack, the code is store in /opt/stack/* | 08:37 |
| tomoe_ | s/store/stored/ | 08:37 |
| tomoe_ | try modifying the code there | 08:37 |
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| manoj_ | i can ping my openstack instance using ip address, when i ping instance using the instance name it gives "unknown host" how to fixe this | 12:52 |
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| manoj_ | hi all | 12:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Port to oslo.messaging (WIP) https://review.openstack.org/75861 | 12:54 |
| manoj_ | i can ping my openstack instance using ip address, when i ping instance using the instance name it gives "unknown host" how to fix this | 12:54 |
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| manoj_ | i can ping my openstack instance using ip address, when i ping instance using the instance name it gives "unknown host" how to fix this | 12:59 |
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| larsks | manoj_: unless you have some sort of dns service linked into your openstack environment, you would not expect to be able to refer to instances by name like that. | 13:01 |
| larsks | manoj_: The "designate" project (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Designate) is a dns-as-a-service project for openstack that could do that. | 13:02 |
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| manoj_ | larsks: is it fully developed and usable in production environment | 13:04 |
| larsks | manoj_: no to the first part (applying for incubation in openstack), and I have no idea how usable it is -- I have not worked with it myself. | 13:05 |
| manoj_ | larsks: ok | 13:05 |
| openstackgerrit | sean mooney proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: add spec document for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/hostname-based-ovs-agent-id https://review.openstack.org/95121 | 13:05 |
| manoj_ | larsks: do you know any alternate solution other than designate | 13:06 |
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| larsks | manoj_: sorry, I don't. | 13:06 |
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| manoj_ | larsks: ok thanks for you cooperation | 13:06 |
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| ashep | Hello, neutroners! I'm wondering if anyone worked with network tomography which could be applied for openstack deployment for topology discovery? | 13:08 |
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| yiipi | hi | 13:13 |
| yiipi | have a problem for a while | 13:13 |
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| yiipi | might b I do something wrong. I've trying to install openstack havana on debian wheezy but no luck with neutron network node. | 13:14 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Metadata agent caches networks for routers https://review.openstack.org/70689 | 13:14 |
| yiipi | neutron agent-list is giving me that the dhcp l3 and ovs on neutron are not alive and ovs on my two compute nodes are blinking :-)/xxx for alive (watch -n -1) ... | 13:17 |
| yiipi | when I stop neutron-server on dedicated net node these ovs agent remain alive... | 13:18 |
| yiipi | what could b problem | 13:18 |
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| yiipi | does the controller node need to be on the same subnet as network and compute node? I have controller on one subnet and all other (network, compute) on another network... | 13:47 |
| yiipi | ping | 13:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Mathieu Rohon proposed a change to openstack/neutron: l2-pop : removing a TODO for the delete port use case https://review.openstack.org/95165 | 13:49 |
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| matrohon_ | pcm__ : ping | 14:19 |
| amarao | hello. Can someone checkout my 1st attempt to backport fix to havana? Thanks! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93343/ | 14:19 |
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| pcm__ | matrohon_: pong | 14:26 |
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| matrohon_ | pcm__ : Hi! I was looking at your work for service driver and device driver implementation for Cisco CSR | 14:27 |
| pcm__ | matrohon_: yes | 14:28 |
| matrohon_ | pcm__ : I wass wondering if there was an explanation of the architecture used with VPNagent, service driver, device driver etc... | 14:28 |
| matrohon_ | pcm__ : i didn't fin anything usefull on the wiki | 14:29 |
| pcm__ | matrohon_: No. It pretty much follows the same architecture as the reference (openswan) implementation. | 14:29 |
| garyk1 | markmcclain1: hi, can you please look at my comments on https://review.openstack.org/94018 | 14:29 |
| markmcclain1 | garyk1: looking | 14:30 |
| garyk1 | i think that the patch and the one aobe it is very useful. hopefully we will not need to wait for infra (and they too will have to do the same chnages) | 14:30 |
| matrohon_ | pcm__ : I was wondering what would be the good path to implement another type of VPN : IPVPN | 14:30 |
| pcm__ | matrohon_: I think there are some basic drawings that Nachi did. | 14:30 |
| markmcclain1 | garyk1: you make a good point…my understanding from doug was that waiting was better | 14:31 |
| matrohon_ | pcm__ : that's what I'm looking for :) do you have a link? | 14:31 |
| pcm__ | matrohon_: (Curious) what is IPVPN? | 14:31 |
| matrohon_ | pcm__ : MPLS based VPN | 14:31 |
| pcm__ | matrohon_: Let me look. I think I had cloned one of Nachi's diags too. | 14:32 |
| pcm__ | matrohon_: Here's one of Nachi's old docs: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1uoYMl2fAEHTpogAe27xtGpPcbhm7Y3tlHIw_G1Dy5aQ/edit#slide=id.gc2bc6c2e_0176 | 14:33 |
| garyk1 | markmcclain1: i guess we could wait, but the same work will need to be done. | 14:33 |
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| garyk1 | my two cents from jogo was that the debug translations are also very costly. so it may be worthwhile doing it noew | 14:33 |
| matrohon_ | pcm__ : thanks very much, it will definitly help! | 14:34 |
| markmcclain1 | garyk agreed there is non-trival cost concerned about churn | 14:34 |
| pcm__ | I have this one, from the summit (as backup info): https://docs.google.com/document/d/18IYwbE5vM2FYdw4Qhg9I3ufd8IeqSinU8MyIplOV6rA/edit | 14:34 |
| pcm__ | matrohon_: Sure. BTW, join in on the L3 IRC chats as you can get involved in any VPN discussions. | 14:35 |
| markmcclain1 | garyk1: because the are building infra to differentiate the strings a bit | 14:35 |
| pcm__ | matrohon_: I know there was talk at the summit (Nachi's session) about Juno VPN items. | 14:36 |
| AJaeger | HI neutron cores, could you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94934/ , please? This will make the daily "Imported Translation from Transifex" update significantly smaller. | 14:36 |
| matrohon_ | pcm__ : great, usefull too! I didn't know that VPN topics were discuss during the l3 meeting! I will try to attend. Thanks | 14:36 |
| pcm__ | matrohon_: A bit. There is no VPN IRC so I think the idea is to bring it up during L3 IRC. | 14:37 |
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| pcm__ | Hi all. I'm doing some refactoring and had some questions. Please take a look at my ML post: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-May/035766.html | 14:41 |
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| larsks | markmcclain1: re: that question yesterday about the changing MAC address, it turns out that deleting a port on br-int is causing the MAC address on br-ex to change. | 14:49 |
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| markmcclain1 | to the lowest mac? | 14:49 |
| larsks | to a mac address that doesn't seem to exist anywhere else. Also, there was no connection between br-int and br-ex when this happened. | 14:50 |
| larsks | I stuck some details here if you're curious: https://gist.github.com/larsks/26450e468f640af09054 | 14:50 |
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| zzelle | larsks, i am not sure for OVS bridges | 15:02 |
| larsks | zzelle: it sure is some odd behavior. | 15:03 |
| zzelle | larsks, but "kernel" bridges uses the lower mac of all interfaces connected to the bridge | 15:03 |
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| larsks | zzelle: Yeah, I'm familiar with that. But in this case, there's doesn't appear to be any other interface -- anywhere -- with the MAC address that the bridge is picking up. | 15:03 |
| zzelle | larsks, with OVS bridges, it seems bridges uses the lower mac of all interfaces or a random if connected to nothing | 15:03 |
| larsks | Also, the mac is changing on br-ex when we're deleting a port on br-int. Which is just...argh. | 15:04 |
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| zzelle | larsks, oh ! i read too fast and incorrectly ... strange change on br-int has effects on br-ex | 15:06 |
| zzelle | larsks, are you sure redhat like support correctly ovs interface defined through config file ? | 15:08 |
| zzelle | s/interface/bridge | 15:09 |
| larsks | zzelle: i can replicate this behavior just using ovs-vsctl and ip commands, so it seems independent of the config files. | 15:09 |
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| larsks | zzelle: in fact, it looks like *any* ovs operating (e.g., "ovs-vsctl add-br br-foo") causes the mac address on br-ex to flip. | 15:10 |
| larsks | zzelle: ...always to the same value until destroying/re-creating the bridge. | 15:10 |
| larsks | Weird. | 15:10 |
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| zzelle | larsks, it could not be linked to information in "sudo ovs-vsctl list Interface br-ex" ? | 15:12 |
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| larsks | zzelle: It doesn't look like it. That is, if I run "ip link set br-ex addr $MACADDR", this updates the "mac_in_use" field in that output... | 15:13 |
| larsks | zzelle: and the mac it keeps switching back to does not show up anywhere in, e.g., "ovs-vsctl list Interface" | 15:14 |
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| Ajaeger | garyk1: around? | 16:02 |
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| zzelle | mestery, hi | 16:07 |
| mestery | zzelle: Yop | 16:07 |
| mestery | zzelle: Yo | 16:07 |
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| larsks | zzelle: do you know anyone who might know openvswitch internals? | 16:09 |
| zzelle | larsks, it depends on how internals :) | 16:09 |
| zzelle | mestery, i need to customize my dhcp-agent behavior (mainly adding pre/post namespace deploy/undeploy) | 16:09 |
| larsks | zzelle: ...well, someone who would understand the weird "just about every ovs operation causes an explicit mac address to disappear" behavior :) | 16:10 |
| zzelle | larsks, so no :s | 16:10 |
| larsks | Ah, well; no worries. | 16:10 |
| Ajaeger | garyk1: Regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94934/ - I've added a comment explaining a bit more the background. I'll be back later for discussion, please ping me once you have time. | 16:10 |
| zzelle | mestery, do you if there are initiatives to allow (something like the l3-agent-consolidation BP but for dhcp-agent) ? | 16:11 |
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| zzelle | mestery, oups, do you know if there are initiatives to allow something like the l3-agent-consolidation BP but for dhcp-agent ? | 16:12 |
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| mestery | zzelle: I have not hear of anything along those lines, no, but it would certainly be good! | 16:20 |
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| zzelle | mestery, fine perhaps i should ask the mailing if other contributors could be interested | 16:24 |
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| sballe | SumitNaiksatam, Hi | 16:35 |
| sballe | SumitNaiksatam, Do you knw how far the team is with the ServiceVM implementation? | 16:36 |
| sballe | Is there a place I can see a status of when it will be ready? | 16:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | sballe: hi Susanne | 16:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | good to hear from you | 16:36 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | we dont track the service VM on a weekly basis in the advanced services meeting | 16:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we would like to but we run out of time | 16:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | there is a separate meeting for that, which is at an odd hour for most of us | 16:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | long story short, i am not as much up to speed | 16:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | that said there were patches posted during icehouse | 16:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i can dig them up for you | 16:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | of course, the current direction is to do this in stackforge | 16:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so the patches in neutron are probably not as relevant | 16:38 |
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| sballe | SumitNaiksatam, Hi :) | 16:39 |
| sballe | SumitNaiksatam, thanks | 16:40 |
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| larsks | zzelle: fixed it! | 17:23 |
| larsks | zzelle: apparently setting the MAC address via 'ovs-vsctl set bridge br-ex other-config:hwaddr=...' makes it stick, whereas using 'ip link set' does not. | 17:23 |
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| zzelle | larsks, thanks for the feedback | 17:53 |
| zzelle | ! | 17:53 |
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| carl_baldwin | mestery: ^ PTLs are allowed to code? ;) | 19:49 |
| mestery | carl_baldwin: Ha! :) | 19:49 |
| carl_baldwin | mestery: I’m impressed you’re still cranking out code with all that must be going on. | 19:49 |
| carl_baldwin | Keep it up. It is inspiring. | 19:50 |
| trad511 | carl_baldwin: this is sean lynn @ twc. met you at conf via dave medberry and jason rouault | 19:53 |
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| carl_baldwin | trad511: Right, I remember. | 19:54 |
| trad511 | surprised you're still cranking this friday afternoon before hoiday | 19:54 |
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| carl_baldwin | trad511: And lovin’ it. | 19:54 |
| * trad511 fighting puppet neutron modules | 19:55 | |
| trad511 | you have time for a quick ? that i never got to ask during conf? | 19:55 |
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| carl_baldwin | trad511: Sure. | 19:55 |
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| trad511 | i have a trunked physical ifx on br-ex, a provider vlan and subnet defined in neutron. | 19:56 |
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| trad511 | when i create a router my qr interface on br-ex isn't vlan tagged | 19:56 |
| trad511 | not the behavior i want, but is this expected? | 19:56 |
| trad511 | ie the router can't get out the GW until i manually tag the ovs qr/qg port | 19:57 |
| carl_baldwin | trad511: When you say that qr is not vlan tagged what do you mean? What evidence tells you it is not tagged? | 19:57 |
| carl_baldwin | trad511: What action do you take to manually tag the vlan? | 19:58 |
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| carl_baldwin | trad511: I think it is safe to say that this is not expected but I’m trying to probe a bit to see what is going on. | 19:59 |
| trad511 | carl_baldwin: tracking down exact ovs-vsctl cmd | 20:00 |
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| carl_baldwin | Okay. So, when the qr port was created it was not tagged in the ovs. | 20:01 |
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| trad511 | carl_baldwin: correct | 20:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | Is this repeatable or a one-time thing? | 20:01 |
| trad511 | carl_baldwin: then i manually ran: ovs-vsctl set port qg-8d2c7a90-07 tag=3331 | 20:01 |
| trad511 | and all was correct in the land | 20:01 |
| trad511 | would think that neutron, having known provider net and subnet info (it certainly picks a good gw IP) would grok the vlan tag | 20:02 |
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| trad511 | but didn't see anything in neutron code that makes me think this happens | 20:02 |
| Ajaeger | mestery: could you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94934/, please? This reduces the daily "Import Translations from Transifex" job significantly. Thus I'd like to have it in soon to avoid conflicts if somebody approves that one... | 20:03 |
| mestery | Ajaeger: Will do. | 20:04 |
| carl_baldwin | trad511: Hmmm. Let me have a quick look in to the code to see how this should be happening. | 20:04 |
| trad511 | carl_baldwin: thx. | 20:04 |
| Ajaeger | mestery: thanks. If you have questions, I'm around another 30 mins at most... | 20:05 |
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| busterswt | trad511: what is set as your external_network_bridge in l3_agent.ini? | 20:09 |
| * medberry reads scrollback and ^5s carl_baldwin and trad511 for working things out | 20:09 | |
| trad511 | busterswt: have set both as the UUID of provider network and left value blank | 20:10 |
| carl_baldwin | trad511: Can you confirm what the provider: settings are with a net-show command? | 20:10 |
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| trad511 | carl_baldwin: https://gist.github.com/trad511/ea8c393ded54dc92c162 | 20:13 |
| busterswt | trad511: if that value is blank, i would expect to see the gq interface in the integration bridge rather than br-ex, that qg interface would have some internal vlan tag and there should be flows on both that correspond to vlan 3111. | 20:13 |
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| trad511 | busterswt: i had thought that as well, but didn't see it move with value change and service restarts. | 20:14 |
| busterswt | yeah, sometimes i've seen it not move, and just use the router-gateway-clear and router-gateway-set command to get it to go where it needs to | 20:14 |
| trad511 | busterswt: will have to redo that test and confirm. have done so much testing i can't remember if i _exactly_ did that | 20:15 |
| busterswt | trad511: cool, lemme know! | 20:16 |
| trad511 | busterswt: do you know if behavior of setting external_network_bridge is to automagically set/show gw in horizon as well? | 20:16 |
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| busterswt | trad511: in terms of the port showing as DOWN in horizon? not sure i understand the question | 20:17 |
| busterswt | trad511: or do you mean, if you manually set the external network in the l3 config, will it show as the default gateway network in horizon? | 20:19 |
| trad511 | busterswt: yes that's my ? | 20:20 |
| busterswt | trad511: not that i'm aware of. it's really only needed when you have more than one provider network whose router:external attribute is set to true. You're instructing the l3 agent to use that particular external network. If you only intend to have one external network, you can leave that value blank as well. | 20:21 |
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| busterswt | trad511: i think horizon will only show eligible "gateway" networks (the ones with router:external=true) | 20:22 |
| trad511 | busterswt: that is basically what i thought. have done so many tests to try to debug the vlan tag issue that i begin to suspect too many things ;) | 20:22 |
| busterswt | trad511: i know what you mean. i really think the gateway clear/set commands will do it for you. you can also try creating a new router and attaching it to the same external network and see if qg goes to br-int | 20:23 |
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| trad511 | busterswt: in progress of the latter test | 20:25 |
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| trad511 | busterswt: confirm that having unset external gw in l3_agent.ini, create router (it's on br-int), add gw and the router ifx moves to br-ex | 20:30 |
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| busterswt | and after making the changes to the ini file, the l3 agent was restarted? | 20:31 |
| trad511 | busterswt: yes | 20:31 |
| trad511 | trying w/ external router id set in l3 agent conf | 20:32 |
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| trad511 | busterswt: weird, setting gateway_external_network_id, restarting l3 agent and creating a router still put the port on br-int and did not automatically set external_gateway_info (but adding gw after router creation did) | 20:39 |
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| bjornar | Anyone with a ospf routed datacenter willing to give me some input? | 20:40 |
| busterswt | trad511: qr will definitely end up on br-int with the router-interface-add command. the external gateway info won't be set until you do a router-gateway-set | 20:41 |
| busterswt | trad511: and then qg will end up on br-int ( or should, in this case) | 20:41 |
| harlowja_ | salv-orlando saw the email, i hope for a good usage of taskflow in neutron (cheers!) :-) | 20:41 |
| salv-orlando | I hope too | 20:42 |
| trad511 | busterswt: roger that, and confirmed that it does… so what's the purpose of setting gateway_external_network_id? to force that agent to only grab that net off the queues? | 20:42 |
| harlowja_ | salv-orlando and your right btw, its a library | 20:43 |
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| harlowja_ | *no shooting required, ha | 20:44 |
| salv-orlando | harlowja_: I was pretty sure of that ;) What I was not 100% sure about is that mistral in a standalone service with its own rest endpoint | 20:44 |
| busterswt | trad511: to bind that external network to that agent, so to speak. in havana it was 1:1 network to agent. think that's changed, so i'm not sure what it looks like in icehouse | 20:45 |
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| trad511 | busterswt: thx | 20:46 |
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| busterswt | trad511: no problem. glad its working | 20:46 |
| trad511 | busterswt: that bit, but my vxlan tagging for the router gw to get out of the physical (trunked) ifx does not | 20:47 |
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| busterswt | your external provider network is type vlan or vxlan? | 20:49 |
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| trad511 | busterswt: vlan. in full disclosure this is ml2 w/ vxlan and vlan, but provider net is vlan and pretty much defined the way specified in your article http://developer.rackspace.com/blog/neutron-networking-vlan-provider-networks.html. thx for that info online btw | 20:51 |
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| harlowja_ | salv-orlando ya mistral is that, with its own DSL (and eventually they are goign to use taskflow internally, so there are some neat possilbilities here) | 20:51 |
| harlowja_ | salv-orlando that usage of taskflow in mistral is being worked out (they POCd there own thing just to get rolling) | 20:52 |
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| harlowja_ | i agree its a different usage pattern, internals of openstack will easier integrate with taskflow than mistral (at least at the current time, maybe someday in the future this won't be the case) | 20:53 |
| busterswt | trad511: haha thx for reading. little outdated now. and your provider network segmentation id is 3111? | 20:53 |
| salv-orlando | cool, I see. This just reinforces that mistral should probably not be looked as an alternative to neutron (or that the guy that mentioned mistral just actually meant they're integrating with taskflow as well!) | 20:53 |
| harlowja_ | could be either, ya :-P | 20:53 |
| trad511 | busterswt: 3331 correct | 20:53 |
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| busterswt | trad511: and your physical bridge (br-ex, i guess?) has what physical interface in it? | 20:54 |
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| harlowja_ | salv-orlando there was discussion with mistral folks and me at summit, hopefully we'll have a detailed plan of the mistral+taskflow alignment soon enough (although this shouldn't stop/impede neutron usage of taskflow, just more of alignment between mistral+taskflow and how we work together there) | 20:54 |
| trad511 | busterswt: if my physical br-ex interface (eth5 in my case) is trunked then i'd expect either the ovs qg port to tag or some linux-fu inside the netns | 20:55 |
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| salv-orlando | oh definetely. I am still at a stage where I'm studying taskflow for neutron integration. I'm sure I'll ping your team in the next few weeks with a lot of silly questions | 20:55 |
| harlowja_ | salv-orlando sounds good | 20:56 |
| busterswt | trad511: you should see a flow on br-ex that converts the internal ovs tag to 3111 for traffic coming from br-int. use ovs-ofctl dump-flows br-ex to see. you would see the opposite flow on br-int for traffic coming from br-ex | 20:56 |
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| trad511 | busterswt: confirming | 20:57 |
| busterswt | trad511: i like to ping the gw in the namespace just to be sure connectivity is there before worrying about instances | 20:57 |
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| busterswt | trad511: speaking of, in your subnet you'll want to set gateway_ip, otherwise the namespace won't have a default gateway and traffic wont get routed out | 20:58 |
| busterswt | trad511: that blog had you configure a host route, which won't work in this case | 20:58 |
| trad511 | busterswt: agreed, i have been running ping and tcpdump inside namespace exclusively to troubleshoot | 20:58 |
| trad511 | busterswt: i have no br-ex flow that does the tagging… hava a single NORMLL action flow that looks like it's default and does nothing but pass traffic | 20:59 |
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| trad511 | busterswt: confirmed i set the gw ip in subnet creation | 21:01 |
| busterswt | trad511: in your ovs plugin ini file, what is the bridge mapping? and does that mapping correspond to the provide bridge you specified when creating the network? | 21:01 |
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| busterswt | trad511: if so, you may want to restart the plugin agent. if that doesn't get you flows, then you may want to check the agent log to see if something is happening. Are there flows on br-int? | 21:02 |
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| trad511 | busterswt: i had to generate some traffics to get the flows to show. current flow configs https://gist.github.com/trad511/436d561e28f579057e5e | 21:15 |
| trad511 | busterswt: i believe i read the br-ex flow to read that anything coming in my phy-br-ex port w/ vlan 2 will be retagged vlan 3331 which seems like to would work…. | 21:16 |
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| busterswt | trad511: that output still shows the qg interface in br-ex rather than br-int, which is why the flow isn't effective | 21:21 |
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| trad511 | busterswt: thx. i get what you're saying. looking at why my qr and qg seem to be split bridged | 21:29 |
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| trad511 | busterswt: are you saying that the qg ifx should be on br-int? is the idea that the flow would get properly tagged w/ provider vlan and it would go to br-ex via int-br-ex/phy-br-ex? | 21:32 |
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| busterswt | trad511: exactly. | 21:33 |
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| trad511 | busterswt: i can confirm that this never happens which makes me think i have a misconfig in my bridges - per your earlier question | 21:34 |
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| rms_13 | SumitNaiksatam, mestery: Ping | 21:36 |
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| busterswt | trad511: if external_network_bridge is indeed unset, or empty, in l3_agent.ini, then that should be the behavior (qg interfaces go to br-int), You could also set it to br-int manually. did it work for the new router you created? | 21:37 |
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| trad511 | busterswt: existing config that does the wrong thing has external_network_bridge set to br-ex. confusing that external_network_bridge would be the integration bridge… confirming in another environment i have. it's possible that this worked previously because we had pure provider nets (vms dropped directly on vlan) and never tested the router bits | 21:40 |
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| busterswt | trad511: well neither method is necessarily wrong, just provide a little different way of accomplishing the same thing: providing external connectivity. if you use br-int as the external bridge, then you can utilize the provider attributes of the network and OVS will tag the traffic. you could have br-ex set as the bridge and rely on the host os to tag the traffic (if a vlan interface like eth5.3111 were in there) | 21:44 |
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| busterswt | and external_network_bridge is unique to the router bits in this case, which is prob why it never affected you | 21:45 |
| trad511 | busterswt: the latter is exactly where i was headed, but what you say makes complete sense…after the fact | 21:45 |
| pcm__ | carl_baldwin: ping | 21:45 |
| carl_baldwin | pcm__: pong | 21:45 |
| pcm__ | carl_baldwin: Did you happen to see my email on the ML about refactoring L3 services code? | 21:46 |
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| carl_baldwin | pcm__: I did see it but I have not read through it yet. | 21:46 |
| pcm__ | carl_baldwin: I had three questions that I'm interested in opinions on. | 21:47 |
| carl_baldwin | pcm__: I see those three questions. Let me have a read through it. | 21:47 |
| * carl_baldwin needs something to do while gerrit is down anyway. | 21:47 | |
| pcm__ | carl_baldwin: Thanks! | 21:47 |
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| carl_baldwin | pcm__: Thanks for the ping. Sometimes that is all it takes. ;) | 21:50 |
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| pcm__ | carl_baldwin: I had activated your camera on your laptop and saw you weren't busy, so I thought I'd ping. :) | 21:51 |
| pcm__ | carl_baldwin: jk | 21:51 |
| carl_baldwin | pcm__: That is an amazing camera. The laptop is folded in a hammock under my desk and it can still see me! | 21:52 |
| carl_baldwin | ;) | 21:52 |
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| pcm__ | carl_baldwin: The summary on the issue (and in case others' on IRC are interested), is that I'm trying to separate out the validation logic from the persistence logic in the L3 VPN code. I'm pulling out into separate function and then changing the calling so that the service driver has an opportunity to override/enhance the validation. | 22:02 |
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| carl_baldwin | pcm__: Good summary. I’ll send a reply momentarily. | 22:03 |
| pcm__ | carl_baldwin: Thanks! | 22:03 |
| pcm__ | carl_baldwin: Just not sure if I should do this preemptively for all config actions, only for those that have validation logic, or only those that currently have override/extension needs by providers. | 22:05 |
| * pcm__ Wondering if this will fall under YAGNI | 22:06 | |
| trad511 | busterswt: well setting external_network_bridge = br-int did the trick (commenting it out did not). my qg now gets created on br-int and the flow retags to correct external 3331 vlan and gw and vms can reach the outside world | 22:06 |
| carl_baldwin | I was actually wondering if I should say YAGNI for #3. | 22:06 |
| busterswt | trad511: that's great! br-ex is the default, which is why commenting it out didn't work. you could leave the value blank though, and that should've worked as well | 22:07 |
| trad511 | busterswt: so an efficiency question. is it less work for the system to go the "br-int" way or have linux tag traffic? | 22:08 |
| pcm__ | carl_baldwin: Was thinking about 1B or 1C too. Seems like a lot of work for 1A and may not need used. | 22:09 |
| trad511 | busterswt: ie. which would scale better w/ increased traffic - ovs flows retagging or linux dealing w/ the tagging? | 22:09 |
| pcm__ | carl_baldwin: For Q2 it's just a naming preference thing. I really like validate/apply, but not sure if I'll get a lot of push back from cores. | 22:10 |
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| busterswt | trad511: honestly, i'm not sure. haven't done any testing to really determine that. for consistency i prefer letting OVS tag all traffic. but there are reliability issues with OVS in some cases so i can't really say one way or the other | 22:11 |
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| trad511 | busterswt: well, i have to load test this bit shortly anyway so can feed back in next month or so. wanted to know opinions if you had any. | 22:13 |
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| trad511 | busterswt: this has been kicking my behind and i ended up with the 2nd soln (creating a linux or ovs ifx to tag packets) in the end, but could never figure out why. | 22:14 |
| trad511 | busterswt: so thanks very much for all your help. also have a few new tools for my use! | 22:15 |
| busterswt | trad511: glad to help! took a while for me to figure out at first, too | 22:15 |
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| trad511 | is suppose the key is br-ex is external until… it's not :) | 22:16 |
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| medberry | busterswt, thanks for the assist. | 22:34 |
| medberry | (with trad511 ) | 22:34 |
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| busterswt | medberry: absolutely. glad to share the tips | 22:38 |
| medberry | :) | 22:38 |
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