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openstackgerritoda-g proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Make help texts more descriptive in Metaplugin  https://review.openstack.org/8811401:25
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Disallow changing quota to lower than current usage  https://review.openstack.org/8784102:45
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xuhanpamotoki, ping02:57
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Disallow changing quota to lower than current usage  https://review.openstack.org/8784104:03
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openstackgerritfumihiko kakuma proposed a change to openstack/neutron: OFAgent: Port implementation of l2-population from OVS  https://review.openstack.org/8744004:14
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openstackgerritHenry Gessau proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: ML2 Mechanism Driver for the Cisco APIC  https://review.openstack.org/8930505:25
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openstackgerritHenry Gessau proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Allow PNG and JPG images up to 100K in size  https://review.openstack.org/8930605:45
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openstackgerritHenry Gessau proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: ML2 Mechanism Driver for the Cisco APIC  https://review.openstack.org/8930505:47
openstackgerritIWAMOTO Toshihiro proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Add lbaas-lvs-driver  https://review.openstack.org/8821305:48
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enikanorov_nlahouti:06:54
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nlahouti enikanorov: Hi06:55
nlahoutithanks for reviewing the BP and your comments.06:55
enikanorov_np06:56
nlahoutiI would like to know more details on how to implement the BP06:56
nlahoutiin more general way06:56
enikanorov_ok, so i think this BP should be mostly around creating a new mechanism in extension framework for loading extensions06:57
enikanorov_so right now all extensions are stored in /extension folder and are referenced by the plugins via aliases06:57
nlahouti enikanorov:yes that's correct06:57
enikanorov_if we want particular vendor drivers to implement specific extensions, it make sense to at least keep them in driver's folder06:58
enikanorov_so existing mechanism is not suitable for such extensions06:58
nlahoutiwe can do that.06:58
enikanorov_i think extension framework should be amended with the following functionality:06:59
nlahoutibut do you see any issue with proposal to get the the extensions from Ml2Plugin?06:59
enikanorov_nlahouti: the issue is in how it is done06:59
enikanorov_nlahouti: aliases is not a suitable way i think06:59
enikanorov_aliases are good for common extensions that are part of common API07:00
nlahoutiBut this is how all extensions are implemented. No?07:00
enikanorov_right07:00
enikanorov_that's because we yet don't have vendor-specific (driver-specific) extensions07:00
enikanorov_e.g. we need to create a way of loading 'non-common API'07:01
nlahoutiright. you mean the APIs for extensions GET/CREATE/...07:02
enikanorov_extensions - i mean additional resources or attributes for existing resources07:03
enikanorov_so, going back to the patch, right now extension loading relies on the plugin to collect aliases07:04
nlahoutiYes.07:04
enikanorov_i think we need another way of doing that: for drivers that need to expose additional API (attributes or resources), they should return whole resources or extension itself directly07:05
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enikanorov_in other words, instead of returning an alias to a comon extension (alias is only good for common ext), driver (and then plugin) returns extension itself07:05
enikanorov_and it is then processed by extension framework, e.g. resources/attributes from that extension are embedded into API07:06
nlahoutihow would that work in existing extensions framework?07:07
nlahoutiDoes it mean we can still use the PluginAwareExtensionManager?07:08
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enikanorov_nlahouti: yeah, i think it should also ask the plugin for extensions, and not just for aliases07:15
nlahoutiWhat I'm not clear is that, the extension manager is using aliases for loading the extension.- and you are saying instead of returinnig aliases return extension itself.07:15
nlahoutiDo you have any example for that?07:15
nlahoutiOk. You are saying the extension manager should change as well.07:16
nlahoutiright?07:16
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enikanorov_no, no examples because it should be new functionality07:17
nlahouti:)07:17
enikanorov_not change, exactly, it should add the ability to process extension directly07:17
nlahoutiI see.07:18
enikanorov_common extensions are still loaded via aliases07:18
enikanorov_driver-specific extenions are loaded through the plugin07:18
nlahoutiSo if I understood correctly,07:18
enikanorov_e.g.  PluginAwareExtensionManager -> plugin.get_extenions() -> drivers.get_extension()07:19
enikanorov_something like that07:19
nlahoutiok07:19
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nlahoutiIf I understood correctly, A plugin that supports a vendor specific extension shoud return the extensions (via get_extenions() implementation)07:20
nlahoutithen the extesnion manager should use that and load the extensions07:20
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nlahoutiright?07:20
enikanorov_yes, instead of alias it could be a list of extension objects and on each element it should be possible to call get_resources()07:22
nlahoutiok.07:23
nlahoutiHow about the APIs for attributes for example create_xxx, list_xxx, ...07:24
nlahoutiin the v2_0/base.py?07:24
enikanorov_not sure i understand07:25
enikanorov_usually what goes after 'create_' is called resources07:25
nlahoutisee, for example for a vendore specific, when we specify an extension for a resource (i.e. network)07:25
nlahoutiwe want to get for example the list of that extensions07:26
nlahoutiI mean attribute07:26
nlahoutisomehow the Plugin or mechanism driver has to implement that API.07:27
nlahoutias most of the API for the resource implemented in the neutron base class.07:27
enikanorov_so, you're saying that for network resource there could be an attribute that is supported by some driver, but not supported by others?07:28
nlahoutiyes07:28
enikanorov_can you give an example?07:28
nlahoutiyes. In my case, I added a an extension to the network resource i.e. config_profile.07:29
nlahoutiWhen I want  to create a network, I need to get the list of this config_profile.07:30
nlahoutibut only my mechanism dirver is aware of that07:30
enikanorov_btw, i was under impression that when ml2 plugin processes a call, it calls all mechanism drivers, no?07:30
nlahoutisure.07:31
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nlahoutibut in the v2_0/base.py when REST API call comes,07:31
enikanorov_so other drivers could just skip unknown attributes (if we're talking about attributes)07:31
nlahoutiit cannot find any attribute that matches with extenion in plugin.07:31
nlahoutiIt throw exception 'attribute error'07:32
nlahoutiand also never calls the mechanism driver07:32
enikanorov_that's because attribute was not embedded into 'network' resource definition07:32
nlahoutias base.py api only knows about Plugin07:32
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nlahoutican you elaborate on that?07:33
enikanorov_when API doesn't know about the attribute, it will not allow such call, and it will never hit the plugin07:33
enikanorov_nlahouti: some how you didn't update 'network' resource with your extended attribute, that's why API is throwing exception07:33
nlahoutiAPI goes to the supported Plugin but cannot find it in the plugin.07:34
nlahoutiAPI expect the plugin implement the method07:34
nlahoutias they are mandatory in the Neutron Base class. for the resource.07:34
enikanorov_now i don't understand. we were talking about 'network' resource with additional attribute07:35
nlahoutiYes07:36
enikanorov_'network' resource already has all methods in plugins or base plugin07:36
nlahoutisure07:36
enikanorov_so nothing else needed07:36
enikanorov_can you show the traceback?07:36
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nlahoutisure.07:37
nlahouticut&paste here?07:37
nlahouti===>>>> log error in: 2014-03-28 12:27:02.494 DEBUG routes.middleware [-] Match dict: {'action': u'ind ex', 'controller': <wsgify at 79934352 wrapping <function resource at 0x4c2fa28> >, 'format': u'json'} from (pid=2056) __call__ /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ routes/middleware.py:103 2014-03-28 12:27:02.495 ERROR NL>>> resource.py: neutron.api.v2.resource [-] ind ex failed 2014-03-28 12:27:02.495 TRACE NL>>> resour07:37
nlahoutiIs it readable?07:37
enikanorov_paste.openstack.org07:38
nlahoutiI just paste there07:39
nlahoutican you read it?07:40
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enikanorov_i guess it was not a full traceback, the link above is more convenient for this07:41
nlahoutiwhere you able to see in paste.openstack.org?07:42
enikanorov_you should give a link to paste - look at the address bar! :)07:43
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nlahouti:) sorry about that never used it07:43
nlahoutiHere it is07:43
nlahoutihttp://paste.openstack.org/?reply_to=7648507:43
nlahoutinice feature.07:44
nlahoutiI need to leave in 5 min. here is late.07:44
nlahoutiCan we discuss it tomorrow morning, if you are available.07:44
enikanorov_morning which timezone?07:45
nlahoutiPT07:45
nlahoutiI'm in California07:45
enikanorov_i see, yeah. probably i'll be online. looking at your traceback it seems that you were accessing config_profiles resource, not an attribute07:46
nlahoutiyes.07:47
enikanorov_ok, let's continue in the morning then (will be evening for me)07:49
nlahoutiThanks a lot for your time07:50
nlahoutiwill talk to you tomorrow.07:50
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Fix migration that breaks Grenade jobs  https://review.openstack.org/8793508:06
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Set correct nullable parameter for columns  https://review.openstack.org/8208908:27
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Fix incorrect change of Enum type  https://review.openstack.org/8473009:05
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Fix migration that breaks Grenade jobs  https://review.openstack.org/8793513:09
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openstackgerritHenry Gessau proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: ML2 Mechanism Driver for the Cisco APIC  https://review.openstack.org/8930513:13
openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Fix migration that breaks Grenade jobs  https://review.openstack.org/8793513:15
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openstackgerritHenry Gessau proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Cisco APIC ML2 mechanism driver, part 1  https://review.openstack.org/7335513:48
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openstackgerritrcurran proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ML2 Cisco Nexus MD: Improve Unit Test Coverage  https://review.openstack.org/8869514:15
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openstackgerritrcurran proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ML2 Cisco Nexus MD: Improve Unit Test Coverage  https://review.openstack.org/8869514:34
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openstackgerritPaul Michali proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Publish L3 service capabilites to client  https://review.openstack.org/8936615:22
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sc68calmestery: Do we have some logic in the tox config for neutron-specs to pick up new additions to requirements.txt?15:49
mesterysc68cal: Not sure, let me check, but FYI, on the phone right now.15:49
sc68calI had to nuke my .tox dir to pick up the nwdiag deps and get them installed correctly15:49
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nlahoutienikanorov_: Hi Can we continue our conversation, if you have time?16:07
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mriedemquestion on amqp setup if anyone knows, looking at the config-reference doc it says to use control_exchange=openstack for the compute node which is the default exchange in oslo.messaging,16:34
mriedembut the network config says to use 'neutron' for the control_exchange: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/config-reference/content/networking-configuring-rpc.html#networking-common-messaging-configuration16:34
mriedemis that intentional?16:34
mriedemi'm using qpid and have been seeing it trip up a lot lately, then messages get lost between nova and neutron for callbacks16:35
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mriedemor maybe it's a security policy thing http://docs.openstack.org/security-guide/content/ch038_transport-security.html16:38
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openstackgerritPaul Michali proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: BP: Provider Validation for L3 Plugins  https://review.openstack.org/8840616:45
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/neutron: NSX: sync thread catches wrong exceptions on not found  https://review.openstack.org/8845017:16
enikanorov_nlahouti: in 10 minutes17:17
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enikanorov_nlahouti: hey17:35
openstackgerritHenry Gessau proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: ML2 Mechanism Driver for the Cisco APIC  https://review.openstack.org/8930517:36
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nlahoutienikanorov: Hi enikanorov.18:20
nlahoutienikanorov: sorry missed ur message. I was in meeting.18:21
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openstackgerritSean M. Collins proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Add ipv6-provider-nets-slaac  https://review.openstack.org/8804318:28
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openstackgerritSean M. Collins proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Add ipv6-provider-nets-slaac  https://review.openstack.org/8804318:31
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adam_ghi--im trying to fix some of the FWAAS tempest tests so that they pass against environments other than the default devstack. hitting an issue where firewalls never leave PENDING_CREATE. which network resources are required to have been created on the tenant network prior to firewall creatin? i have a network, subnet, router, and router interface but still PENDING_CREATE18:36
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nlahoutienikanorov: Hi enikanorov will you be available?19:06
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enikanorov_nlahouti: yes19:29
enikanorov_nlahouti: so, continuing our discussion, traceback shows that you're accessing new resource, that was not embedded into API layer (at least it seems so)19:30
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rkukuraSumitNaiksatam: Do you have any changes about to go into your sumit/pm branch, or other branches?19:40
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zzelle_markmcclain, hi19:45
markmcclainzzelle: hi19:45
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zzelle_could you remove your -2 (liked to icehouse FF) on https://review.openstack.org/71904 ?19:46
zzelle_s/liked/linked/19:46
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zzelle_markmcclain, should i also change the BP approver in launchpad ?19:47
markmcclainzzelle: you need to refile the blueprint into the neutron-specs repo19:48
zzelle_markmcclain, that is these week job :)19:49
markmcclainthe -2 will be removed once the spec is approved and the doc is linked to the launchpad bp19:49
zzelle_markmcclain, fine19:50
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markmcclainzzelle: thanks, I know this it is a bit of a pain, but this is the only way we can ensure the specs repo contains the proper docs19:53
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/neutron: Register LBaaS resources to quotas engine  https://review.openstack.org/8662420:07
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kfox1111is there a way to have floating ip's for a subnet and not use seperate subnets?20:10
kfox1111ie, have a router with no gateway, and have it assign floating ip's from the only subnet attached to the router?20:10
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kevinbentonmestery: ping20:17
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mesterykevinbenton: pong20:17
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swestonnati_ueno: ping20:22
kevinbentonmestery: oh, nevermind. i had a question about a blueprint but it was for devstack20:22
nati_uenosweston: sorry buzy. can we talk later?20:22
nati_uenosweston: could you give me your email?20:22
swestonnati_ueno: Yes, I just had some questions regardintg the bug I was working on, but it can wait.  sweston@brocade.com20:23
nati_uenosweston: sure20:23
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kfox1111Is there no way to do a floating ip without having it on a router's gateway interface?20:24
swestonnati_ueno: ok, thank you ;-)20:24
swestonkfox1111: so, a floating ip is any address on an external network20:24
swestonkfox1111: you just need to mark the router as external, and any addresses assigned on that network will be floating20:25
ctooleyI'm running Icehouse. Neutron seems to not be able to send notifications to nova. I'm getting ERROR neutron.notifiers.nova [-] Failed to notify nova on events: [{'status': 'completed', 'tag': u'da8f1f36-df7a-4d78-aa14-4dbfd263a0b2', 'name': 'network-vif-unplugged', 'server_uuid': u'652de88a-fc31-4071-9ff8-f6213efd1225'}]20:25
kfox1111its also a nice abstraction to allow one to be allocated, and moved between vm's.20:25
kfox1111hmm.. ok. I'll give that a try. thanks.20:26
swestonkfox1111: sure20:26
kfox1111hmm... if I mark it as external, can I have regular vm's allocated directly on it too?20:27
ctooleyThis looks like the exception: BadRequest: object of type 'NoneType' has no len() (HTTP 400)20:27
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kfox1111or is that an either or situation?20:27
kfox1111I guess that would be easy enough to test...20:28
swestonkfox1111: if you boot the vm up on that network as the primary nic netid, then I suppose you could call those regular vms?  :-)20:28
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kfox1111hmm.. at least in horizon, I can't select the external flagged network to launch the vm with.20:29
swestonkfox1111: the only difference with a external network, is that network must be realised outside of neutron.  A floating ip address is meant to be shared among the tenants in your cloud20:29
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openstackgerritMichael Smith proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Modify L3 Agent for Distributed Routers  https://review.openstack.org/8941320:30
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swestonkfox1111: probably because you created the network as another tenant.  external networks are frequently created with special access privilidges, only to be allocated and managed by a cloud admin20:30
kfox1111in this case, I'd prefer it to be private.... but since the whole cloud is private, at least for the moment, that should be ok.20:30
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kfox1111ah.20:30
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kfox1111hmm... another question. Can you disable setting dhcp to issue a default gatway, but keep everything else? I'm thinking of having two external networks, each with floating ip's, and some vm's I want to allocate would be on both networks. It works now but route -n shows two default gateways.20:32
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swestonkfox1111: you can (and should) disable dhcp on your external networks completely.  If you are showing multiple external routes, then you probably have something else wrong ... but if you want to customize dhcp options, you may use the dns masq configuration options in your neutron.conf file20:36
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nlahoutienikanorov: By API layer you mean the NeutronPluginBaseV2 ?20:57
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enikanorov_nlahouti: no, i mean the resource was not added by extension manager to a set of supported resources21:00
enikanorov_and after that it doesn't have an implementing controller21:01
enikanorov_in your case it seems that driver itself should be such controller, and not the plugin21:01
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nlahoutienikanorov: Yes I added it to the driver.21:01
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nlahoutienikanorov: I mean the mechainsm driver21:02
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openstackgerritHenry Gessau proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: ML2 Mechanism Driver for the Cisco APIC  https://review.openstack.org/8930521:05
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enikanorov_nlahouti: if so, then you wouldn't need additional code in base.py21:10
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nlahoutienikanorov:  Do you mean when I have it in mechanism driver I don't need changes in base.py?21:18
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enikanorov_nlahouti: look at how resource is created in any extension. it provides a controller for the resource (a class which has create_* update_* etc methods), usually it's a plugin, but it could be an instance of your driver class21:22
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sballeenikanorov_, I have a quick question about Neutron LbaaS and the haproxy implementation.21:33
sballeDoes the haproxy lbaas driver allow for haproxy to be setup on a separate VM? I am playign with Devstack so my ability to do so is limited21:34
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enikanorov_sballe: sure21:36
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enikanorov_sballe: no, haproxy driver only works with lbaas agent which manages haproxy processes on the node21:37
enikanorov_and not inside the vm21:37
nlahoutienikanorov:  Sure I'll look again as I created the resources for the extensions and provided the controller.21:37
enikanorov_so running it in devstack is totally fine21:37
sballeenikanorov_, so I can setup HA on a VM withing a tenant's private network. Cool! Where do the HA proxy VMs land? on a new VM within the tenants' network?21:39
sballes/HA/LB21:39
sballes/HA/HAproxy21:40
enikanorov_sballe: haproxy is spawned on the node as a process, not in the VM21:40
sballeso on the Network node?21:40
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enikanorov_sballe: on the node where lbaas agent runs. you can place the agent wherever you want :)21:41
enikanorov_it can be compute21:41
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rm_worksballe: in the current configuration, *all* HAProxy servers for every LB for every customer are all run on a single node, as processes, not in their own VMs :(21:42
rm_workI think you may have gotten that, but just making sure that's 100% clear21:42
sballeI did. :)21:43
rm_workso yeah, for a private cloud it is not too bad :P21:43
rm_workfor public cloud, it is a bit… painful :(21:43
sballerm_work, Even for a private cloud it is painful21:44
rm_worksingle-tenant cloud using a single server for all HAProxy configs isn't THAT bad I think?21:44
rm_worksince most of the issues we have with that method are related to process isolation or scalability21:44
enikanorov_rm_work: not correct21:44
enikanorov_not a single node21:44
sballeOur private cloud use case is still multi-tenant21:44
enikanorov_you can place lbaas agents on multiple nodes21:45
rm_worksballe: ah21:45
enikanorov_that would distribute spawnd LBs across nodes21:45
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rm_workenikanorov_: how does it schedule across multiple nodes? random? round-robin? some intelligence?21:45
sballeyeah that was my next question21:45
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enikanorov_rm_work: random21:46
enikanorov_rm_work: it's configurable though, but changing the algorithm requires a piece of code, the default is random21:46
rm_workhmm k21:47
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sballeenikanorov_, so when you deploy your cloud you allocate X nodes for LBaaS? Since we are running Libra in VMs the concept is a little different21:47
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sballeI am assumign the X nodes will host many tenants' LBaaS? or as the LBaaS per tenant? I am assuming the former21:47
enikanorov_sballe: that could be one strategy21:48
enikanorov_yes, the former21:48
sballeWhat's another strategy?21:48
rm_workso, could you write a scheduler that would actually go to a different node per tenant?21:48
rm_workthat would be… not a great answer to our problem, but it's interesting]21:49
enikanorov_rm_work: the node doesn't matter as long as l2 connectivity for haproxy is provided21:50
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sballeenikanorov_, so can you spin up a new VM on the tenat's private network and have ha-proxy/LB in there21:50
sballeenikanorov_, Anywhere this is documented? I am interested in udnerstanding this use case a little more21:52
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enikanorov_sballe: right now there is no driver that supports haproxy in VM21:59
sballeso it is only HPproxy as a process on the physical node?21:59
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enikanorov_sballe: yes21:59
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xmltok_should icehouse+ml2+openvswitch support vlan tagged networking?22:00
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sballeenikanorov_, What is the typical deployment? lbaas-agent on the network nodes? on separate nodes?22:01
amotoki_let's continue on -neutron. time is over....22:01
sballeenikanorov_, what you have seen so far.22:01
amotoki_wrong channell..... :-(22:01
amotoki_xmltok_: what do you mean "vlan tagged"?22:02
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amotoki_xmltok_: vlan tagged frame from VM?22:02
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enikanorov_sballe: typical is having lbaas agent on several network nodes22:03
xmltok_amotoki: my neutron subnets need to be segregated using vlan tags. so i am using the provider:segmentation_id parameter22:03
xmltok_network, not subnet22:03
xmltok_it worked fine on my linuxbridge configuration in havana, but im building out new with icehouse and i want to get on the right plugins22:03
amotoki_xmltok_: it should work. there is no spec change in icehouse.22:04
sballeenikanorov_, yeah that's what I thought. in this use case the network nodes could be bogged down by the LBaaS traffic22:04
xmltok_amotoki_: i didnt use OVS in havana22:04
sballeenikanorov_, but good to know that you can load-balance the LB across several nodes22:04
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enikanorov_sballe: with haproxy driver it is inevitable, even if you have separate nodes for lbaas22:05
amotoki_xmltok_: ML2 with linux bridge should work. vlan segmetation should work both for linxu bridge and ovs.22:05
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xmltok_i may try ML2 with linux bridge and see if that works for me, i'd like to use OVS but i suppose its not a requirement and it looks like its adding a lot of variables22:05
enikanorov_sballe: because external traffic can only hit haproxies through floating ip, and hence is NATted from network nodes22:05
sballeenikanorov_, oh I see good point22:06
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amotoki_xmltok_: hmm..... when I tested it during RC1, ml2 with ovs (vlan) worked though it was just a setup with two nodes.22:08
xmltok_amotoki_: that gives me enough hope that i should be able to pull this off. right now i have dhcp going and i see its netns but i cant ping the ip from a remote node or locally22:09
xmltok_i dont know how to verify that it has the right vlan with OVS though22:09
amotoki_xmltok_: are you ping-ing from inside netns? If not, no ping is reachable to dhcp netns.22:10
xmltok_if i ping out from the netns space i dont see icmps going through my OVS br-ex bridge, so its probably set up wrong22:10
openstackgerritoda-g proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Make help texts more descriptive in Metaplugin  https://review.openstack.org/8811422:11
xmltok_amotoki_: yeah, I am running this from 10.64.34.112: # ip netns exec qdhcp-d9edc84f-ecab-4d23-89f1-de8bfc72ba53 ping 10.64.34.112 and i get nothing back22:11
amotoki_xmltok_: Is 10.64.34.112 assigned to what? dnsmasq?22:12
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xmltok_.112 is the hypervisor, dnsmasq is on a different vlan with ip 10.64.40.10122:12
amotoki_xmltok_: vm? router? I am not sure your topology.22:12
xmltok_is that making sense?22:13
enikanorov_gtg, see everyone later, bye22:15
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swestonmarkmcclain: ping22:32
markmcclainsweston: pong22:33
swestonmarkmcclain: Hi!! So there was a patch pushed on the nova side related to the bug I am working on, https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/116356922:34
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swestonmarkmcclain: now it looks like the vm is being attached to a bridge, and I believe this will change how the vif is wired in the loadbalancer vip?22:35
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swestonmarkmcclain: or maybe I don't care what's going on on the nova side, I should just ensure the bridge is created, and then attach to it?22:41
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markmcclainfor devices created by Neutron we plug directly into the bridge22:43
markmcclainand I in general we'd have to change the plugging code to inspect the use before creating the the device22:43
markmcclainmight make sense to wait on the proposals to implement security groups in OVS22:44
swestonmarkmcclain: so here, a patch pushed to fix the nova vif ... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/83190/22:45
swestonmarkmcclain: kinda changes how I wrote my wiring code for this bug ...22:45
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markmcclainright it creates virtual hops22:46
markmcclainthe neutron code adds the port directly to OVS22:46
markmcclainso we'd have to change how we plug22:46
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swestonmarkmcclain: yup, so now I plug into ovs, and then attach ovs to the linux bridge created by nova, correct?22:47
markmcclainexcept VIPs never touch anything with nova22:48
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swestonmarkmcclain: ok, so then the attachment via the member pool is through another bridge?22:49
markmcclainthe internal pool for contacting the pool22:50
markmcclainis through a device that is directly created in OVS22:51
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/neutron: allow delete_port to work when there are multiple floating ips  https://review.openstack.org/8543222:51
swestonmarkmcclain: right now it is, yes ... but in order to implement this bug fix I have to create a linux bridge to connect it, but I would use a different bridge than the port that nova uses to attach to the integration bridge?22:52
markmcclainok.. just wondering now that there is a team working on OVS based SG implementation22:53
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markmcclainif the hybrid approach for VIPs in Juno makes sense22:54
markmcclainwe will not be able to backport to Icehouse22:54
swestonmarkmcclain: I hope not ... 'cause I've been working on this patch pretty seriously ...22:54
markmcclainok understood, but with that native flow based security groups, hybrid sg implementations are likely to be on borrowed time (even for the Nova)22:55
markmcclainmight ahve to discuss at the summit22:56
markmcclainor via the mailing list w/larger community22:56
swestonmarkmcclain: so ... I'm not sure what to do, should I continue working on this patch or not??22:57
swestonmarkmcclain: what is the alternative to hybrid sgs?22:57
markmcclainthe alternative is native OVS implementations22:57
markmcclainI know there are teams working on it, so seems like we need to sync with those teams22:58
swestonmarkmcclain: via flow rules?22:58
markmcclainmestery can connect you with the right people22:58
swestonmarkmcclain: ok, I can send him an email then and ask.22:59
swestonmarkmcclain: thank you :-)22:59
markmcclainsweston: you're welcome.. sorry I don't have a clearer answer23:00
swestonmarkmcclain: that's okay, I always appreciate any help you have to offer.23:01
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adam_gwhat are the router and interface requirements for firewall creation? i can't seem to get one out of PENDING_CREATE, though the tenant has active net/subnet/router/router interface23:05
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Add spec for neutron-external-ports blueprint  https://review.openstack.org/8782523:07
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juiceis anyone around here at the moment?23:41
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* jamespd is around23:50
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juicehi jamespd23:51
jamespdhi juice23:51
juicequick question possibly a bug and to be upfront I went ahead and cross posted in the mail list23:51
juiceto be brief: one nova instance; 2 NICs; only one NIC gets configured23:52
juiceshould nova attach-interface automatically configure the 2nd interface on the Instance23:52
juiceit seems odd that once this command is done, one has to go on the instance, configure the interface and bring it up manually23:53
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jamespdhmmm.23:54
* jamespd goes to test that23:57
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jamespdjuice: Is the second interface useable if you configure it manually?23:58
juiceyes23:58

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