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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/networking-ovn: Vagrant: Add live migration support https://review.openstack.org/280728 | 01:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Moats proposed openstack/networking-ovn: Handle OVN NB and SB databases with separate ovsdb-server procs https://review.openstack.org/276364 | 13:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | russellb: moo | 15:52 |
| russellb | hi | 15:52 |
| russellb | grabbing coffee, then i have a meeting .. | 15:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | russellb: mmmm coffee | 15:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | russellb: ovs creates br-int automatically, no? | 15:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | trying to determine the source of weirdness | 15:54 |
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| russellb | ovn-controller creates it in the case of OVN | 15:57 |
| russellb | if it does not already exist | 15:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok | 15:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | i figured something should be creating it | 15:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | it wasnt in this deployment, which makes me wonder if something else is up | 15:58 |
| russellb | ovn-controller might not create it if configuration is incomplete | 15:58 |
| russellb | i'd have to check the code, but ovn-controller sort of sits around if it's not properly configured | 15:58 |
| russellb | like, if it doesn't know where the OVN database is | 15:59 |
| russellb | just a guess | 15:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | this deployment is a particular mess, so maybe | 16:00 |
| russellb | heh | 16:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | russellb: moo | 17:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | russellb: ovn-controller relies on at least external-ids:ovn-remote ... but the other external-ids like ovn-bridge=br-int and setting provider nets can wait until after ovn-controller starts? | 17:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | looks like we do that stuff before starting ovn-controller | 17:20 |
| russellb | Sam-I-Am: yes, bridge mappings can wait. ovn-bridge should be set ahead of time if you want it to be something other than br-int | 17:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok. i'm trying to map what we do in devstack to ansible. | 17:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | because we were missing a couple of those things | 17:22 |
| russellb | i hope you guys can share the ansible goodness eventually | 17:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, its pretty much consuming all my time | 17:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | the latest problem was moving from using devstack (and manually starting stuff) to debian packages... which were somewhat broken. | 17:25 |
| russellb | important stuff ... | 17:25 |
| russellb | (not sarcasm) | 17:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, i know | 17:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think we're carrying a local patch for the deb stuff, which i dont like | 17:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think those init scripts were written for plain old ovs, so bringing ovn into the picture made things fuzzy | 17:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Rachappa B Goni proposed openstack/networking-ovn: Fix avoids one more consumer creation for PLUGIN topic with insufficient endpoints when REPORTS topic is not present or missing. https://review.openstack.org/288000 | 17:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | russellb: probably going to miss the meeting today | 17:43 |
| russellb | ok | 17:43 |
| russellb | your presence will be missed :) | 17:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont have too much to add at this point | 17:44 |
| russellb | you mean as far as a status update? | 17:47 |
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| russellb | OVN meeting in 9 minutes or so in #openvswitch | 18:06 |
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| azbiswas | zhouhan: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282488/ when you get a chance, would love your comments before I provide another patch based on latest comments | 19:03 |
| zhouhan | azbiswas: sure, I will review asap | 19:04 |
| azbiswas | it may be time to split up the acl code into a different file, let me know your thoughts in the review. | 19:05 |
| azbiswas | zhouhan: thanks | 19:05 |
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| russellb | regXboi: reviewed the split db patch, had some minor feedback | 20:15 |
| russellb | thanks for pushing it through | 20:15 |
| regXboi | russellb: ack - I'll look when the email lands | 20:15 |
| regXboi | russellb: I'm looking at the persistance of flows for incremental processing patch and I'm looking at needing to add not one but TWO additional hashmaps to be able to catch all the corner cases :( | 20:16 |
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| regXboi | russellb: on the question of the tests - I did it both ways because I wasn't sure which one would be accepted :) | 20:28 |
| regXboi | one of the tests runs the dbs split, the other doesn't | 20:29 |
| russellb | heh ok | 20:29 |
| regXboi | the rest of the comments make sense on first blush, but I'll look in more detail when I have some cycles | 20:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed openstack/networking-ovn: Run cross-tenant traffic tempest test https://review.openstack.org/288115 | 20:36 |
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| russellb | 2016-03-03 21:14:56.148 | {2} setUpClass (tempest.scenario.test_network_basic_ops.TestNetworkBasicOps) ... SKIPPED: security-group extension not enabled. | 21:20 |
| russellb | just noticed that in a tempest log ... | 21:20 |
| russellb | several other security group tests are running, so i'm not sure what that's about | 21:21 |
| russellb | ... it's coming from tempest.conf ... | 21:27 |
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| russellb | ... d'oh, it's in our devstack plugin ... | 21:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | russellb: wut | 21:35 |
| russellb | skipping a lot of tests it seems | 21:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed openstack/networking-ovn: Update supported API extensions for tempest. https://review.openstack.org/288142 | 21:42 |
| * russellb tenses up a bit waiting for the test report on that | 21:42 | |
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| azbiswas | russellb: A concurrency question - stress reliever. | 21:45 |
| russellb | i'm not sure that's a stress reliever :) | 21:45 |
| azbiswas | class DelLogicalPortCommand(BaseCommand): | 21:45 |
| russellb | but sure! | 21:45 |
| azbiswas | lswitch.verify('ports') | 21:45 |
| azbiswas | ports.remove(lport) | 21:45 |
| azbiswas | I have a log from our scale test showing exception in the port.remove(lport), value lport not found | 21:46 |
| azbiswas | Am trying to come up with a scenario how that is possible | 21:46 |
| russellb | interesting | 21:46 |
| azbiswas | assuming multiple neutron servers | 21:46 |
| russellb | even with multiple servers, this data shouldn't be changing out from under this code | 21:47 |
| azbiswas | the verify should have caused a retry | 21:47 |
| russellb | i don't think so | 21:47 |
| russellb | verify would cause a retry if the error came from the server | 21:47 |
| russellb | sounds like we're getting a local python error | 21:47 |
| russellb | odd thing is we thought the port should exist based on an earlier check: 147 lport = idlutils.row_by_value(self.api.idl, 'Logical_Port', | 21:48 |
| russellb | 148 'name', self.lport) | 21:48 |
| azbiswas | right | 21:48 |
| azbiswas | it is a local python error | 21:48 |
| russellb | so we found the port int he Logical_Port table, but not int he ports list of the logical switch | 21:49 |
| russellb | not sure i can explain how | 21:49 |
| russellb | simple explanation would be if we're trying to delete it from the wrong switch | 21:49 |
| russellb | is this environment using ports on a provider network by chance? | 21:50 |
| russellb | and was it recently upgraded? | 21:50 |
| azbiswas | the logs are from 18th Feb, so it has the DB corruption fix | 21:50 |
| russellb | ok, nevermind | 21:50 |
| azbiswas | and yes there are ports on provider network | 21:51 |
| russellb | i was thinking about what would happen if you upgraded a running system to this commit: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266186/ | 21:51 |
| russellb | that would break | 21:51 |
| azbiswas | Right - we are not doing that | 21:51 |
| azbiswas | We are starting a run with that fix today - clean setup | 21:52 |
| russellb | cool | 21:53 |
| russellb | i'm stumped by that error | 21:53 |
| russellb | definitely not obvious how that could happen | 21:53 |
| russellb | unless we just passed in the wrong lswitch | 21:53 |
| russellb | orrrrrrrr if we tried to delete it twice in the same transaction? | 21:53 |
| russellb | mayyyyybe? | 21:54 |
| azbiswas | I've never seen that yet (wrong lswitch that is) | 21:54 |
| * russellb guessing | 21:54 | |
| azbiswas | Another unlikely OR - AddLogicalPortCommand never added lport to lswitch list | 21:55 |
| russellb | indeed.. | 21:56 |
| russellb | are you seeing retries get handled correctly? | 21:56 |
| azbiswas | there are many transaction timeouts in the logs | 21:56 |
| russellb | i haven't looked through to see what happens in the case of a retry (or timeout) | 21:56 |
| azbiswas | yes retries are handled correctly | 21:56 |
| russellb | ok | 21:56 |
| azbiswas | timeouts - not sure | 21:57 |
| azbiswas | can a timeout result in half of a transaction commit? | 21:58 |
| russellb | good question :) | 21:58 |
| russellb | i don't know | 21:58 |
| russellb | sounds worth looking into to make sure we handle it gracefully ... | 21:58 |
| russellb | seems unlikely | 21:58 |
| russellb | since that's kind of the point of a transaction | 21:58 |
| azbiswas | right | 21:59 |
| russellb | sounds like our plugin is really slow, though | 21:59 |
| russellb | :( | 21:59 |
| azbiswas | it's slow in create_port when the number of ports in a network/security group start getting big. | 22:00 |
| russellb | but you're fixing that! ;-) | 22:00 |
| azbiswas | the current patch doesn't target that explicitly, that create_port O(N^2) loop still exists - I will look into it though | 22:01 |
| russellb | O(N^2) because of remote_group ? | 22:02 |
| russellb | let's just not support remote_group! | 22:02 |
| azbiswas | my guess is yes | 22:02 |
| russellb | or not use it in scale tests to make the results look better :-p | 22:03 |
| azbiswas | right, but we are using provider networks for now, so all those 800+ VMs end up in the same security group. | 22:03 |
| azbiswas | not remote per say | 22:04 |
| russellb | right, but for every port you create, it's recreating the ACLs for all 800 ports | 22:04 |
| russellb | because of that rule | 22:04 |
| russellb | :( | 22:04 |
| azbiswas | right | 22:05 |
| azbiswas | I'll try and optimize that as much as I can. But we may have to play some games within the scale test itself and keep N down. | 22:06 |
| russellb | or consider changing the default security group | 22:06 |
| russellb | and file a bug to improve remote_group_id support at scale | 22:06 |
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| russellb | at scale == for a security group with many ports | 22:07 |
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| azbiswas | right, shard that group to keep N limited within - will that work? | 22:08 |
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| azbiswas | i.e. multiple copies of the same security group | 22:08 |
| russellb | would result in different behavior though | 22:09 |
| russellb | i've got some ideas ... i'll think about it some more | 22:10 |
| russellb | i need to run for now though | 22:10 |
| azbiswas | ok | 22:10 |
| azbiswas | I did have a different question on a different topic - will catch you later on that | 22:10 |
| russellb | quick? | 22:10 |
| russellb | i'm not in a huge rush, just headed home for the day | 22:10 |
| azbiswas | it's quick - the ovsdb client to ovsdb server iteraction - the probe timeout | 22:12 |
| azbiswas | i saw the patch proposed for ovn-controller to ovn sb db | 22:12 |
| russellb | yes | 22:12 |
| azbiswas | we may need something similar for ovn plugin to ovn nd | 22:13 |
| azbiswas | the initial pull of data (> 8 MB), leaves the probe hanging behind and not processed immediately | 22:13 |
| russellb | sure | 22:13 |
| russellb | it may be doable already | 22:13 |
| russellb | grep for "probe_interval" in the python ovs lib | 22:13 |
| russellb | it's in there, just not sure about the interface for setting it | 22:14 |
| azbiswas | we've set the server side to 0 for now | 22:14 |
| russellb | there's a set_probe_interval() | 22:14 |
| azbiswas | that's the client side | 22:14 |
| azbiswas | and that's set to 0 | 22:14 |
| azbiswas | we need to set it on server side | 22:14 |
| russellb | oh | 22:14 |
| russellb | you're supposed to be able to do that with ovsdb-server config | 22:15 |
| russellb | but i haven't looked at how | 22:15 |
| azbiswas | ah | 22:15 |
| azbiswas | ok let me look | 22:15 |
| azbiswas | that's easy then | 22:15 |
| azbiswas | I'm done with my questions | 22:15 |
| russellb | happy to chat :) | 22:15 |
| russellb | thanks again for all your help | 22:15 |
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